WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.220 i can dance and love to dance you know yeah um 00:00:03.220 --> 00:00:06.339 yeah so you know we danced not learning to something 00:00:06.339 --> 00:00:09.279 fast but back long then they you know they slowed 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:12.419 it down much like they don't do now in clubs 00:00:12.419 --> 00:00:14.800 but they slowed it down you know the lights go 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:16.460 down and that's when you get a chance to get 00:00:16.460 --> 00:00:20.379 close to your lady and uh you know see what you're 00:00:20.379 --> 00:00:23.559 working with i mean you see it in the damn dress 00:00:23.559 --> 00:00:27.000 and everything but you but you see but you get 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:30.519 you get the rapid you get the rapid This podcast 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:34.500 contains explicit adult content, mature themes, 00:00:34.740 --> 00:00:38.420 and candid conversations about sex, dominance, 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:42.960 power exchange, and ethical non -monogamy. 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Always practice consent, respect 00:01:20.870 --> 00:01:23.370 the boundaries of others, and follow local laws. 00:01:23.989 --> 00:01:26.689 If you're not comfortable with Frank talk about 00:01:26.689 --> 00:01:31.180 sex, kink dominance or emotional power this probably 00:01:31.180 --> 00:01:33.980 isn't the show for you but if you're ready to 00:01:33.980 --> 00:01:37.359 step into your masculine edge and embrace a lifestyle 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:40.480 that demands mastery welcome to the brotherhood 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:46.299 welcome to the bull brotherhood podcast where 00:01:46.299 --> 00:01:49.640 we talk power pleasure and the art of dominance 00:01:49.640 --> 00:01:52.579 and ethical non -monogamy this is not your average 00:01:52.579 --> 00:01:56.530 lifestyle podcast this is for men who lead men 00:01:56.530 --> 00:01:59.370 who master, and men who leave a lasting impression. 00:01:59.989 --> 00:02:03.430 If you're here, you're not just curious. You're 00:02:03.430 --> 00:02:06.709 ready to elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives, 00:02:07.049 --> 00:02:10.469 stags, and open -minded explorers, we see you. 00:02:10.930 --> 00:02:27.819 Let's go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:30.120 and welcome to another informative episode of 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:33.000 the Bull Brotherhood Podcast. I'm Brian Morgan, 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:36.180 a .k .a. the Sigma Male, the beautiful siren. 00:02:36.300 --> 00:02:39.539 What's up, baby? Not much. Good deal. And, of 00:02:39.539 --> 00:02:41.900 course, my nephew, the perpetual student himself, 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:46.159 Socrates. What's up, dawg? What's good? What's 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:50.169 good? Just, um... I can't... you know, excited 00:02:50.169 --> 00:02:55.810 about this episode. Yeah, I know you are. I know 00:02:55.810 --> 00:02:57.729 you two have about 50 million questions about 00:02:57.729 --> 00:03:01.250 a topic that I normally do not discuss because 00:03:01.250 --> 00:03:05.349 it is all about discretion. But since I am not 00:03:05.349 --> 00:03:08.409 overseas anymore, I am very happy, ladies and 00:03:08.409 --> 00:03:11.569 gentlemen, to talk about something that I, not 00:03:11.569 --> 00:03:14.370 to brag, but I... Did very well for a couple 00:03:14.370 --> 00:03:18.110 of years. And that is the world of being a straight 00:03:18.110 --> 00:03:22.389 male escort for single ladies as well as couples. 00:03:23.150 --> 00:03:27.310 So without further ado, I'm going to turn this 00:03:27.310 --> 00:03:30.250 over to Nephew and Siren because I know I'm about 00:03:30.250 --> 00:03:32.729 to get hit with a whole lot of damn questions. 00:03:33.289 --> 00:03:36.310 So I'm very, very anxious to answer them. So 00:03:36.310 --> 00:03:39.710 take it away, y 'all. Yeah, we're excited. We're 00:03:39.710 --> 00:03:46.199 excited. I'm very fascinated in this because 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:51.159 I, for one, believe that there is a legitimate 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:59.319 and valuable and even empowering experiences 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:05.319 to be had in escorting. And I know if I was going 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:09.979 to ever get those kinds of experiences, stories, 00:04:10.020 --> 00:04:14.139 or if not. wisdom from that was going to be you. 00:04:14.219 --> 00:04:20.240 So I'm, I'm excited. So, um, you know, for our, 00:04:20.300 --> 00:04:24.579 our listeners, I think heard your story of you 00:04:24.579 --> 00:04:26.480 getting started in lifestyle, but isn't that 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:28.639 the exact same story of you getting started in 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:33.060 escorting or am I confusing the two? It is. It 00:04:33.060 --> 00:04:37.579 is. Um, I started out with, um, the very, very 00:04:37.579 --> 00:04:40.480 beautiful Russian lady taking me to parties. 00:04:41.380 --> 00:04:44.879 um there was where i was introduced to the hot 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:46.800 wifing world i didn't know it was hot wifing 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:50.459 then but it turns out that you know i got into 00:04:50.459 --> 00:04:53.779 hot wifing through that you through going to 00:04:53.779 --> 00:04:57.180 parties and um excuse me i'm a tad bit congested 00:04:57.180 --> 00:05:01.339 but uh later she actually bought up you know 00:05:01.339 --> 00:05:05.480 have you ever thought about doing this for uh, 00:05:05.579 --> 00:05:07.899 time and attention. I won't say payment, you 00:05:07.899 --> 00:05:10.899 know, providing time and attention to, uh, select 00:05:10.899 --> 00:05:14.259 females and select couples, you know, and that's 00:05:14.259 --> 00:05:17.980 how she introduced me to the, the other side 00:05:17.980 --> 00:05:22.660 of the parties. So, you know, hats off to my 00:05:22.660 --> 00:05:24.860 beautiful Allen. Don't know if she's still living. 00:05:24.939 --> 00:05:26.959 I won't say her name. I think I've said it before 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:29.819 though, but, uh, miss her very, very much. She 00:05:29.819 --> 00:05:34.560 taught me so much. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds amazing. 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:39.259 So what was your, what were you thinking in that 00:05:39.259 --> 00:05:42.540 moment when she approached you? Was like, hell 00:05:42.540 --> 00:05:45.379 yeah. Or were you like, had to think about it? 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:51.180 I was like, I don't know what the fuck I'm getting 00:05:51.180 --> 00:05:54.660 into. Because I had to research when I researched 00:05:54.660 --> 00:05:59.139 what being a male, and I will say escort, escort 00:05:59.139 --> 00:06:04.870 sounds so, I say companion. being a male companion 00:06:04.870 --> 00:06:09.449 was, I found out very, very quickly that it was 00:06:09.449 --> 00:06:13.769 not about you just providing sexual attention 00:06:13.769 --> 00:06:17.670 to a female. It had nothing to do with that, 00:06:17.709 --> 00:06:19.990 really, to tell you the truth. If that came up, 00:06:20.089 --> 00:06:23.769 so be it. But they were not engaging you for 00:06:23.769 --> 00:06:27.230 that. They were engaging you for, here again, 00:06:27.290 --> 00:06:30.509 your time and your attention. So I had to learn 00:06:30.509 --> 00:06:37.360 how to be... very, very attentive. I had to learn 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:41.600 how to be a great communicator. I definitely 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.360 had to learn what discretion was because this 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:47.819 world is all about discretion. Some of the people 00:06:47.819 --> 00:06:51.939 that I met, they were very, very affluent people 00:06:51.939 --> 00:06:59.259 in the German city that I lived in. So conversation 00:06:59.259 --> 00:07:03.910 skills, you know, just... Learning how to, like, 00:07:03.949 --> 00:07:08.889 groom and have great hygiene and body game, as 00:07:08.889 --> 00:07:12.810 you hear. You know, all of that was taught to 00:07:12.810 --> 00:07:16.050 me. All of it. Well, that's dope. So you were 00:07:16.050 --> 00:07:19.009 thinking, I don't know what this thing is, but 00:07:19.009 --> 00:07:22.410 I'm going to jump in and find out. Yeah, yeah. 00:07:22.589 --> 00:07:26.029 Nervous as hell, but after I did it a few times 00:07:26.029 --> 00:07:29.170 and established, like, kind of like a pattern 00:07:29.170 --> 00:07:33.040 of how I was going to be with couples. Then I 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:36.180 became very, very comfortable. That's what's 00:07:36.180 --> 00:07:42.319 up. So talk to me about your first date. What 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:44.379 should I call it? Your first date? Your first 00:07:44.379 --> 00:07:47.819 experience? Your first encounter. Encounter. 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:50.160 Encounter. First encounter. Talk to me about 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:52.680 your first encounter. Walk us through and walk 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:57.639 us through like the ladies that we want in our 00:07:57.639 --> 00:08:01.339 sphere of listening and the guys. Tell us what 00:08:01.339 --> 00:08:04.230 you were thinking. You know, tell us what, describe 00:08:04.230 --> 00:08:07.329 as much as you can. Let's slow it down. We want 00:08:07.329 --> 00:08:09.829 to hear this because I'm like, I don't know how 00:08:09.829 --> 00:08:12.810 it works. And I watched the show on it. I think 00:08:12.810 --> 00:08:15.129 you might talk about that later. But I want to 00:08:15.129 --> 00:08:18.209 hear, like, me, I like to, you know, dudes, give 00:08:18.209 --> 00:08:21.769 me the bullet points. But for the ladies, too, 00:08:21.949 --> 00:08:24.189 Unc, you know, tell us how you felt and what 00:08:24.189 --> 00:08:29.360 was going on during that time. The very first 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.259 experience, or one of the very first experiences, 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:36.940 came from a very, very beautiful lady, a business 00:08:36.940 --> 00:08:40.320 owner that lived in, I can say, Frankfurt, Germany, 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:42.539 that was next to the city that I lived in, which 00:08:42.539 --> 00:08:47.299 was Wiesbaden. And she owned, she was a business 00:08:47.299 --> 00:08:52.580 owner. My handler knew her. She actually went 00:08:52.580 --> 00:08:57.389 to her to get hair. you know done and then different 00:08:57.389 --> 00:08:59.870 things nails and stuff like that so that pretty 00:08:59.870 --> 00:09:02.250 much said she was in the beauty industry she 00:09:02.250 --> 00:09:06.289 owned several places not just one place um and 00:09:06.289 --> 00:09:11.929 my handler told her of our encounters you know 00:09:11.929 --> 00:09:16.330 how we met and everything so she wanted to meet 00:09:16.330 --> 00:09:21.190 me and um here again i had gone to several parties 00:09:21.190 --> 00:09:24.879 this particular lady did not attend parties or 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.159 anything like that um but she did go out to like 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:33.659 clubs so i actually the first meet was at a club 00:09:33.659 --> 00:09:37.580 in wiesbaden germany it was called the uh the 00:09:37.580 --> 00:09:41.039 park cafe that's what the club was called and 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:44.220 uh we actually everything went through my handler 00:09:44.220 --> 00:09:48.120 okay i was considered an independent contractor 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:51.320 but everything went through her you know i had 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:56.710 pictures um I had like a whole portfolio that 00:09:56.710 --> 00:09:59.950 was almost like you would do on the different 00:09:59.950 --> 00:10:04.230 sites, SDC, SLS, AFF, et cetera, et cetera. But 00:10:04.230 --> 00:10:07.809 like a broader platform, a broader spectrum. 00:10:08.950 --> 00:10:12.710 So the lady was able to see all of that. And 00:10:12.710 --> 00:10:17.990 then we decided to meet. It was on a Sunday night. 00:10:18.250 --> 00:10:25.110 It was in that particular club. I asked my handler, 00:10:25.190 --> 00:10:28.289 you know, what type of wardrobe did she usually 00:10:28.289 --> 00:10:31.269 wear and et cetera, et cetera. So, because I 00:10:31.269 --> 00:10:33.110 knew on Sunday nights you had to be dressed particularly 00:10:33.110 --> 00:10:37.570 nice to go inside this club. And so I was, of 00:10:37.570 --> 00:10:39.830 course, as they say in the military, standing 00:10:39.830 --> 00:10:42.409 tall, looking good. You know, the body game was 00:10:42.409 --> 00:10:44.450 right. The head's always shaved to perfection. 00:10:45.139 --> 00:10:51.340 Shining like new money. You know, I was like 00:10:51.340 --> 00:10:53.960 a certain entertainer, you know, take off them 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:56.519 blue jeans and put on them baggies. So I had 00:10:56.519 --> 00:10:59.039 the pleats going, you know, to the crease in 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:01.360 the pants, the one -inch cuff, you know, the 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.559 shoes. You remember how you saw me at that splash 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.639 that night? Yep. I want to say it was that Saturday 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:10.460 night. Yeah, and I threw a blazer on with that. 00:11:10.990 --> 00:11:12.789 Throw a blaze on me that gear that I had on. 00:11:12.950 --> 00:11:17.889 That's what I was wearing. She dressed very, 00:11:17.929 --> 00:11:23.929 very nicely. I would say evening type wear for 00:11:23.929 --> 00:11:33.210 the club. Gorgeous, tall, tanned. And we met. 00:11:35.049 --> 00:11:38.990 Immediately got a table and everything. The conversation 00:11:38.990 --> 00:11:40.809 at first, I am not going to lie to you, I was 00:11:40.809 --> 00:11:43.490 nervous. I was nervous. But then something just 00:11:43.490 --> 00:11:46.590 said, Brian, just be you. Don't try to be somebody 00:11:46.590 --> 00:11:48.590 that you're not. You know, you're a Southern 00:11:48.590 --> 00:11:50.730 gentleman, so greet her like a Southern gentleman 00:11:50.730 --> 00:11:56.210 does. Pull out chairs for her, sit down. Don't 00:11:56.210 --> 00:11:59.769 sit too close at first, but don't sit across 00:11:59.769 --> 00:12:01.809 the damn table either. You know what I'm saying? 00:12:01.970 --> 00:12:04.830 Let her know that you're there for her. Everything 00:12:04.830 --> 00:12:09.659 is about her. We say I don't drink that's one 00:12:09.659 --> 00:12:11.539 thing I've told you guys before I don't drink 00:12:11.539 --> 00:12:15.019 I don't smoke I had I think I had just ice water. 00:12:15.259 --> 00:12:18.059 I don't think I took three sips I'll tell you 00:12:18.059 --> 00:12:20.500 damn truth, but she had something to drink and 00:12:20.500 --> 00:12:24.460 the conversation went from Just you know getting 00:12:24.460 --> 00:12:27.179 to know each other The typical, you know, what 00:12:27.179 --> 00:12:29.960 do you do etc, etc? Of course, she knew that 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:32.200 I was in military. She had a lot of things to 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:35.909 ask about the military and It went from that 00:12:35.909 --> 00:12:38.049 to, you know, eating a little something while 00:12:38.049 --> 00:12:41.289 we were there. Dancing. We got up on the dance 00:12:41.289 --> 00:12:45.090 floor. She was a good dancer. So, you know, we 00:12:45.090 --> 00:12:47.230 had a good time dancing. Can you cut up a rug 00:12:47.230 --> 00:12:50.970 or what? Like, you got skills or you got two 00:12:50.970 --> 00:12:54.169 left feet? Yeah. No, no, no. Oh, fuck no. Hell 00:12:54.169 --> 00:12:58.090 no. No, no, no. No, I can't. I can't dance. I 00:12:58.090 --> 00:13:00.610 can't dance. And love to dance. You know? Yeah. 00:13:01.679 --> 00:13:04.059 Yeah, so, you know, we danced. Not really just 00:13:04.059 --> 00:13:06.860 something fast, but back long then, you know, 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:09.600 they slowed it down. Much like they don't do 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:12.159 now in clubs, but they slowed it down. You know, 00:13:12.220 --> 00:13:13.899 the lights go down, and that's when you get a 00:13:13.899 --> 00:13:17.799 chance to get close to your lady. You know, see 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:19.879 what you're working with. I mean, you see it 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:24.820 in the damn dress and everything. But you get 00:13:24.820 --> 00:13:31.980 to wrap the arms around her. I think you mean 00:13:31.980 --> 00:13:35.019 feel what you're working with. That just reminded 00:13:35.019 --> 00:13:37.460 me of your story about the lady in the retail 00:13:37.460 --> 00:13:40.879 store. So my mind was wandering quickly far away. 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:46.379 to another sexy place in time well yeah though 00:13:46.379 --> 00:13:49.080 uh you know get up close and you know you dance 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:52.379 and everything and like i said um you don't go 00:13:52.379 --> 00:13:55.299 into anything thinking that okay you're gonna 00:13:55.299 --> 00:14:00.759 have sex you don't but in the end we ended up 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:02.960 we didn't stay until the club was over but we 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:05.559 ended up you know leaving and the conversation 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:08.940 didn't stop the conversation actually gotten 00:14:08.940 --> 00:14:13.120 a little a little hotter outside you know while 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.059 we were standing there um you know by her by 00:14:16.059 --> 00:14:18.600 her vehicle and you know we end up kissing and 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:21.100 stuff and then next thing i know i'm sitting 00:14:21.100 --> 00:14:25.019 on the passenger side inside in the seat and 00:14:25.019 --> 00:14:28.740 we are playing a little bit and uh what does 00:14:28.740 --> 00:14:31.580 that mean from there what does that mean we want 00:14:31.580 --> 00:14:36.579 the details like playing a little kissing Kissing, 00:14:36.579 --> 00:14:41.519 rubbing. Rubbing what? Oh, she rubbing her dick. 00:14:41.620 --> 00:14:45.620 She rubbing her dick. I was a gentleman. I got 00:14:45.620 --> 00:14:47.980 a hand on the thigh, on the inside of the thigh. 00:14:48.379 --> 00:14:52.080 Only the thumb is like rubbing a little bit of 00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:55.899 that. Only the thumb. Only the thumb is like 00:14:55.899 --> 00:14:59.820 rubbing a little bit. Just enough to feel that, 00:14:59.820 --> 00:15:03.279 like, you know, the moisture. You can start to 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:06.240 feel the heat, right? of us getting turned on 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.059 when you did it. Exactly, exactly. Just my, I 00:15:09.059 --> 00:15:11.120 was a gentleman, hand on the thigh. But, you 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:13.639 know, and then just, only my thumb was on her 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.500 pussy. Like, you know, just gentlemanly, like, 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:21.960 fuck yeah. And I love, and I love to kiss. I 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:25.299 really do love to kiss. I love a woman who loves 00:15:25.299 --> 00:15:28.799 to be kissed. You know, I can kiss all night, 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.360 and next thing I know, you know, we kissing and 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:33.840 kissing and kissing, and the touching got a little 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:36.340 bit more, and next thing I know, I had blown 00:15:36.340 --> 00:15:39.480 my dick out, and, you know, she starts licking 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.100 her neck, and she goes down. I had a button -down 00:15:43.100 --> 00:15:45.779 shirt, so the buttons would come open some. She 00:15:45.779 --> 00:15:47.960 let open them up, and next thing I know, she's 00:15:47.960 --> 00:15:49.399 down there sucking her dick, and I was like, 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:52.080 then that's when I really got comfortable. I 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:53.679 was like, okay, if she's sucking dick, I'm on. 00:15:54.190 --> 00:15:56.570 I'm going back to the house. That is always a 00:15:56.570 --> 00:15:59.190 positive move. Like, we know this. I'm going 00:15:59.190 --> 00:16:00.990 back to the house. Right, ladies? I'm going back 00:16:00.990 --> 00:16:04.149 to the house, you know? And I did go back to 00:16:04.149 --> 00:16:07.210 the house, and that's when we had a great time. 00:16:07.350 --> 00:16:09.669 We had a very, very great time. And I didn't 00:16:09.669 --> 00:16:14.330 know at the time, like, what my handler had, 00:16:14.610 --> 00:16:19.289 you know, or like what she had purchased. You 00:16:19.289 --> 00:16:21.850 know what I'm saying? Like if it was like a four 00:16:21.850 --> 00:16:24.710 hour deal or a 12 hour deal or whatever, I ended 00:16:24.710 --> 00:16:27.389 up, I ended up spending the night. Ended up spending 00:16:27.389 --> 00:16:29.370 the night at a place and I got up the next day 00:16:29.370 --> 00:16:33.090 and I left. When I got back in contact with my 00:16:33.090 --> 00:16:36.029 handler the very next day, she was like, I went 00:16:36.029 --> 00:16:38.289 over, you know, we went over time. I was like, 00:16:38.330 --> 00:16:39.429 well, hey, you didn't tell me what the fuck she 00:16:39.429 --> 00:16:43.370 paid for. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, 00:16:43.370 --> 00:16:46.009 they handled that, but I had a great time. I 00:16:46.009 --> 00:16:48.440 had a great time. She had a great time. And that 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:50.899 was actually one of my first, like, one or two 00:16:50.899 --> 00:16:54.600 encounters. One or two encounters. Yeah, didn't 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.580 you develop a system after that? It's like, okay, 00:16:57.620 --> 00:17:00.519 you tell me how much time I have. Like, if this 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:04.319 lady has any limits. Like, is there, you know, 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:08.240 an emergency call out? Like, ah, this bitch is 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:10.640 crazy. She's doing some crazy shit to me. Tell 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:14.819 me, like, was there any craziness? All of the 00:17:14.819 --> 00:17:18.170 boundaries. All of the boundaries discussed, 00:17:18.569 --> 00:17:21.450 you know, they discussed the boundaries first. 00:17:21.650 --> 00:17:24.269 You know, when you have a handler, your handler 00:17:24.269 --> 00:17:28.410 comes back and tells you, okay, to remind you, 00:17:28.430 --> 00:17:31.690 I'm new to this now. I'm a rookie. So she and 00:17:31.690 --> 00:17:35.089 I, handler and I, had to get our stuff together. 00:17:35.289 --> 00:17:36.769 You know what I mean? Because I had to tell her, 00:17:36.910 --> 00:17:40.390 okay, this is, at first, I couldn't help it because 00:17:40.390 --> 00:17:45.019 I am new. There were a couple of occasions, in 00:17:45.019 --> 00:17:46.960 my opinion, I may have taken one from the team. 00:17:47.400 --> 00:17:51.240 She wasn't exactly the most attractive woman 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.240 in the world, but I still had to do what I had 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:57.680 to do. You know what I mean? I mean, you got 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:00.420 some pussy and some money, so I'm having a hard 00:18:00.420 --> 00:18:03.380 time, you know, feeling sorry for you, for sure. 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:07.680 Yeah, but still, though, still. After that first 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:09.940 year. I will do something strange for some change. 00:18:11.509 --> 00:18:14.990 After that first year, though, she and I had 00:18:14.990 --> 00:18:18.329 a long talk. Okay, you know, I'm in it now, and 00:18:18.329 --> 00:18:22.950 this is what I really, really am attracted to. 00:18:23.890 --> 00:18:26.210 And, of course, being younger at the time, I 00:18:26.210 --> 00:18:28.670 was attracted to older women, a certain type 00:18:28.670 --> 00:18:31.069 of older woman, you know, very, very stylish, 00:18:31.309 --> 00:18:35.809 very, very sexy, articulate, you know, the whole 00:18:35.809 --> 00:18:39.970 package. So I didn't just, I wasn't just. Okay, 00:18:40.049 --> 00:18:42.809 she's a friend of, you know, of my handler. You 00:18:42.809 --> 00:18:44.849 know, she wants to meet me and I'm going to do 00:18:44.849 --> 00:18:49.730 this. So, hell no. At first, yeah, I took one 00:18:49.730 --> 00:18:52.009 for the team a couple of times. I did. But for 00:18:52.009 --> 00:18:53.529 the most part, though, there were some very, 00:18:53.589 --> 00:18:56.349 very attractive ladies, very, very nice ladies. 00:18:56.970 --> 00:18:59.869 And you will find out very, very quickly that 00:18:59.869 --> 00:19:03.549 you are providing, here again, the boyfriend 00:19:03.549 --> 00:19:06.990 experience. A lot of the ladies, you know, want 00:19:06.990 --> 00:19:10.130 to go to dinner. They want to. You have to be 00:19:10.130 --> 00:19:12.569 a great listener. You know, they want to talk. 00:19:15.130 --> 00:19:18.250 And, you know, you have to adapt. You have to 00:19:18.250 --> 00:19:23.930 be very, very patient and learn how to adapt 00:19:23.930 --> 00:19:26.750 to the situation that you're in, to the client 00:19:26.750 --> 00:19:32.109 that you have. Makes sense. I love it. I love 00:19:32.109 --> 00:19:35.069 it. So you talked a lot about a handler. What 00:19:35.069 --> 00:19:40.019 is a handler? What made your handler, you know, 00:19:40.019 --> 00:19:44.839 good or bad or however you felt about her? Well, 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:47.420 I told you about, you know, how we met, right? 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.279 Right. I told you about how I met her. But what 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:55.799 made her, though, so special, what made us special, 00:19:55.900 --> 00:20:00.160 because, I mean, we were, we played, you know, 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:04.160 a lot. She and I played a lot. But she was that 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:07.279 definition of that older woman that I was, you 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:10.900 know, so attracted to. So when I was picking 00:20:10.900 --> 00:20:14.720 the women after that first year, I was looking 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:17.700 at her. You know, I was looking at her. I was 00:20:17.700 --> 00:20:19.240 looking at the total package. She was a total 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:21.720 package to me. She was a freaking total package. 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:25.299 Everything. She had the look. Like I said, the 00:20:25.299 --> 00:20:29.250 charisma, the class. She was elegant. uh she 00:20:29.250 --> 00:20:32.970 could be comfortable in evening wear or she could 00:20:32.970 --> 00:20:35.390 go with me to the gym and sweat some damn tank 00:20:35.390 --> 00:20:38.490 top you know what i'm saying she was well -rounded 00:20:38.490 --> 00:20:40.670 she was very very well -rounded so i was looking 00:20:40.670 --> 00:20:42.890 for ladies like that that were going to turn 00:20:42.890 --> 00:20:46.630 me on um she was very very kinky you know she 00:20:46.630 --> 00:20:48.869 she like she had certain she had certain she 00:20:48.869 --> 00:20:51.990 and i had a certain kink that we played you know 00:20:51.990 --> 00:20:56.190 played with um that turned me on the the ability 00:20:56.190 --> 00:20:59.730 for us to do Any number of things, from going 00:20:59.730 --> 00:21:05.210 shopping to maybe taking a weekend vacation to 00:21:05.210 --> 00:21:08.750 just laying there looking at a movie together 00:21:08.750 --> 00:21:11.250 and not even have to say anything to each other, 00:21:11.329 --> 00:21:13.730 but just holding each other. So that's what I 00:21:13.730 --> 00:21:15.930 was looking at, you know, after I was in this 00:21:15.930 --> 00:21:19.450 for a while. She was a standard to me. Nice, 00:21:19.490 --> 00:21:23.569 nice. So what does a handler do? Like, what is 00:21:23.569 --> 00:21:26.970 their responsibility? What's their role? Okay. 00:21:27.069 --> 00:21:31.009 If you are here again, I was independent, but 00:21:31.009 --> 00:21:33.230 there was also three other guys that she also 00:21:33.230 --> 00:21:38.490 handled. Okay. So for us, she was the one who, 00:21:38.650 --> 00:21:43.190 um, she dealt with all of the communicating with 00:21:43.190 --> 00:21:48.009 the potential client. Um, they contacted her, 00:21:48.089 --> 00:21:52.410 uh, here again, she listened to what they wanted. 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:55.519 She then said, well, okay, I have somebody here 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:57.859 that you might, you know, that you would, I think, 00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:01.759 fit that, you know, fit that profile. And, of 00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:04.119 course, they would get together, usually have 00:22:04.119 --> 00:22:08.220 lunch or dinner, and she would have my profile 00:22:08.220 --> 00:22:10.660 with, you know, the pictures, the whole nine 00:22:10.660 --> 00:22:14.759 yards. They would see it. Then if they liked, 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:17.720 great. If they didn't, they'd say, well, you 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:20.319 know, can we see somebody else? But usually. 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:23.720 like to pull them on the chain, they liked. 90 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:25.960 % of the time, they liked what they saw. Then 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:29.359 from there, they would sit there and talk about 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:34.859 what the payment was for the bait. And afterwards, 00:22:35.220 --> 00:22:40.140 that was done ahead of time, before I even come 00:22:40.140 --> 00:22:43.200 into the picture. Then you arrange, she listens 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:46.140 to what the lady would like, whether it would 00:22:46.140 --> 00:22:48.960 be... dinner, whether it be dancing, whether 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:53.160 I was going to put on a suit or tux for some 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:57.079 type of damn event, you know, or just whatever 00:22:57.079 --> 00:23:01.259 she wanted. And then I came into the picture, 00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:05.700 met her, and we went from there. You know, that 00:23:05.700 --> 00:23:08.500 was before we actually did the actual date itself. 00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:12.980 So what's the pricing structure like for something 00:23:12.980 --> 00:23:16.160 like this? And I know you're going to say it 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:19.980 varies, but like give me a range. Like what's 00:23:19.980 --> 00:23:22.599 a basic date look like and how much does that 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.880 cost and how much do you get? Okay, well, I can 00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:29.640 tell you what I got. I can tell you what I got. 00:23:30.140 --> 00:23:33.119 Here again, I was in the military, so I had to 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:40.160 be very, very cautious. So for me, I had sometimes 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:44.579 what they call the two -hour lunch special. Okay. 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:49.480 I usually had 90 minutes for lunch, so I could 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.519 turn that into two hours if somebody had just 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:55.339 a quickie date, and you know what a quickie date 00:23:55.339 --> 00:23:57.859 was. That's pretty much a physical encounter. 00:23:58.359 --> 00:24:02.240 A physical encounter at that time, my handler 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:05.759 was charging for two hours, it was like $300, 00:24:05.940 --> 00:24:11.039 and I got 60 % of that. Dang, I need to be a 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:16.200 handler. It was 60 -40 cut. 60 -40 cut. Anything 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:20.160 after that, I pretty much was doing everything 00:24:20.160 --> 00:24:23.640 on the weekends when I was off, or like Friday, 00:24:23.740 --> 00:24:27.559 Saturday, Sunday. Friday and Saturday could be 00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:31.619 anything from four hours, 12 hours, or a 24 -hour 00:24:31.619 --> 00:24:34.500 meet. Four hours would cost you around $600. 00:24:35.039 --> 00:24:41.349 Twelve hours, a grand, $24 ,000, $2 ,000. Not 00:24:41.349 --> 00:24:45.329 bad. And how many years ago was this? Yeah, this 00:24:45.329 --> 00:24:49.609 has been a while. I was, what, 26, 27, 28. So 00:24:49.609 --> 00:24:56.789 that was 1996. So I bet the rates would be about 00:24:56.789 --> 00:24:59.809 at least three times that much now. Oh, God, 00:24:59.869 --> 00:25:04.049 yes, yes. Depending probably on the man, too, 00:25:04.150 --> 00:25:06.890 and also, you know, what you wanted to do. I'm 00:25:06.890 --> 00:25:09.470 sure there was. I just picture somebody like 00:25:09.470 --> 00:25:15.269 me. who is in sales for a living and sitting 00:25:15.269 --> 00:25:18.910 down with like this brochure about, you know, 00:25:18.910 --> 00:25:22.450 the gentleman that you can keep company with. 00:25:24.049 --> 00:25:28.990 Yeah. Yeah. And all of your additions, you know, 00:25:29.009 --> 00:25:34.630 all the cart services. And then we charge. If 00:25:34.630 --> 00:25:37.730 you come more than 10 times, there's a surcharge. 00:25:38.049 --> 00:25:42.250 Okay. So if he's that good, it makes sense. Here 00:25:42.250 --> 00:25:46.190 again, sex is never mentioned in the initial 00:25:46.190 --> 00:25:49.890 when the handler talks to her. Sex is not mentioned. 00:25:49.930 --> 00:25:54.130 When you say sex for money, it turns into prostitution. 00:25:54.329 --> 00:25:57.170 Right. When you do not discuss sex, when you 00:25:57.170 --> 00:26:01.170 just talk about a date, an encounter, then that 00:26:01.170 --> 00:26:04.799 is perfectly legal. That's perfectly legal. I 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:08.980 am being paid again for my time and my attention. 00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:15.440 Yeah. But, you know, is there ever a date that 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:19.079 you had that did not end up in that? That depends 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:22.740 on, that depends really on how the guy looks 00:26:22.740 --> 00:26:25.759 and how the guy carries himself. No, no, no. 00:26:25.779 --> 00:26:31.160 For you, for you personally. I had a lot of play 00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:35.420 time. Did you bat a thousand? Just admit it. 00:26:35.460 --> 00:26:37.680 It's fine. Was there ever one that you didn't? 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.039 Was there ever a date that you did not play on? 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:47.059 Yeah. Yeah. There were a couple. Okay. So a small 00:26:47.059 --> 00:26:50.400 percentage. Very small. Very small percentage. 00:26:50.940 --> 00:26:53.380 Very, very small. Especially in the beginning. 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:56.200 In the beginning, I had to do what I had to do 00:26:56.200 --> 00:27:00.859 to get my name out there. And once the name got 00:27:00.859 --> 00:27:05.839 out there, then I was able to tell my handler, 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.920 okay, I'm getting more calls now. People want 00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:12.720 to see me, et cetera, et cetera. This is what 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:17.940 I'm not interested in now. Yeah. Okay? That's 00:27:17.940 --> 00:27:20.700 like any good business, though. Once you get 00:27:20.700 --> 00:27:23.440 full, you can start adjusting your clientele. 00:27:24.029 --> 00:27:26.690 to the people that you actually connect with 00:27:26.690 --> 00:27:30.450 and match with and vibe with. I always say, we 00:27:30.450 --> 00:27:32.950 might not fit you, you might not fit us, so we 00:27:32.950 --> 00:27:36.329 reserve the right to fire you. So, you know, 00:27:36.329 --> 00:27:38.970 it makes sense after a while, you know, oh, I've 00:27:38.970 --> 00:27:41.509 fired more clients than I've fired us. I'm positive. 00:27:42.190 --> 00:27:47.130 And this way, this also introduced me to the 00:27:47.130 --> 00:27:51.309 world of, really the world of cuckolding. You 00:27:51.309 --> 00:27:54.789 know, I didn't know that when I would meet a 00:27:54.789 --> 00:27:58.069 couple and I would get there and then, you know, 00:27:58.089 --> 00:28:02.049 the husband wants to watch and I'm over there 00:28:02.049 --> 00:28:03.970 telling him, you know, you'd never fuck your 00:28:03.970 --> 00:28:07.329 wife like this. You can't do it. And that, you 00:28:07.329 --> 00:28:11.769 know, the cuckling thing was going on. So that's 00:28:11.769 --> 00:28:14.650 where I learned that. Like I said, this is a 00:28:14.650 --> 00:28:16.950 long time ago. You didn't have all of the, you 00:28:16.950 --> 00:28:20.509 know. The term hot wife did not exist then. The 00:28:20.509 --> 00:28:23.950 term bull did not exist. The term cuckold did 00:28:23.950 --> 00:28:27.670 not exist. Okay? So that, you know, the verbiage 00:28:27.670 --> 00:28:31.390 just came about a few years ago. Some years ago. 00:28:31.549 --> 00:28:35.690 But back long then, you didn't have it. But the 00:28:35.690 --> 00:28:42.069 Europeans have always done it. Yep. So, okay, 00:28:42.190 --> 00:28:46.869 so you... At what point did you kind of realize, 00:28:47.109 --> 00:28:49.529 and I think almost that your handler taught you 00:28:49.529 --> 00:28:51.769 this from the beginning, but at what point did 00:28:51.769 --> 00:28:55.650 you realize that this was way more about, you 00:28:55.650 --> 00:28:59.170 know, the experience and who you are as a person 00:28:59.170 --> 00:29:02.150 and the ambiance and the fact that you're making 00:29:02.150 --> 00:29:05.470 them, all these things that they're experiencing, 00:29:05.549 --> 00:29:11.529 being involved in you, and the dick was actually 00:29:11.529 --> 00:29:14.279 the bonus. The dick was actually the add -on. 00:29:14.339 --> 00:29:17.160 When did you realize that? And was there like 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:24.319 an awakening point? I wouldn't say there was 00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:26.799 an awakening point. Here again, it goes back 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:30.680 to my favorite word, evolution. With each encounter 00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:34.539 that I had, I learned something, you know, with 00:29:34.539 --> 00:29:37.180 each encounter. Whether it was a great encounter 00:29:37.180 --> 00:29:40.160 or whether it was, you know, one that... you 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.079 know like i was telling siren that i might be 00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.279 taking one for the team but i learned something 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.119 every every every time that i met different people 00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:52.799 i learned something um and you know over time 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:57.900 um everything developed everything developed 00:29:57.900 --> 00:30:02.480 even the even the sick even the sexual part got 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.700 better it got better and better and better um 00:30:05.700 --> 00:30:10.849 and i was able to go from learning how to just 00:30:10.849 --> 00:30:13.410 go from the, like I told you, you know, when 00:30:13.410 --> 00:30:16.509 I first started, I thought a great foot was just 00:30:16.509 --> 00:30:18.910 being a porn star. You know, you just fucking 00:30:18.910 --> 00:30:21.670 like what you see in porn. And I quickly found 00:30:21.670 --> 00:30:25.049 out that that hell no, that's, that's not real 00:30:25.049 --> 00:30:28.410 world sex. That's not great sex. That is acting, 00:30:28.529 --> 00:30:33.690 you know? And, um, so yeah, everything evolved. 00:30:34.299 --> 00:30:36.980 everything about the communication skills um 00:30:36.980 --> 00:30:42.440 you know the me as a person um everything involved 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:46.299 and then i just got better with age i got better 00:30:46.299 --> 00:30:50.500 with age and here again i that took a year that 00:30:50.500 --> 00:30:53.339 took a year and then i was able to like i said 00:30:53.339 --> 00:30:57.119 tell my handler okay i'm i'm different now i'm 00:30:57.119 --> 00:31:00.519 different so this is what you know i want this 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.400 is what i want uh these these type of ladies 00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:06.259 or these type of couples you know attract me 00:31:06.259 --> 00:31:10.779 um so you know let's let's make that happen instead 00:31:10.779 --> 00:31:18.660 of just anything so evolution that word i love 00:31:18.660 --> 00:31:24.859 it i love it and so um i think you had mentioned 00:31:24.859 --> 00:31:28.140 or you had told me that you had several good 00:31:28.140 --> 00:31:30.339 friends that, you know, friends to this day that 00:31:30.339 --> 00:31:34.019 are in the game with you, right? Yeah. Yeah. 00:31:34.099 --> 00:31:38.079 Over there? Mm -hmm. Yeah. Yeah. So talk to me 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.700 about, like, what was that like? Would you guys 00:31:40.700 --> 00:31:43.079 compare notes? Would you guys talk about it? 00:31:43.140 --> 00:31:45.460 Were you guys close afterwards? Were you close 00:31:45.460 --> 00:31:47.839 during? Like, what was it like with these brothers? 00:31:49.220 --> 00:31:55.259 No, the other guys who were, who she helped out. 00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.259 right who she was family too i was i was i knew 00:31:59.259 --> 00:32:03.079 them but i wasn't as close to them as i was like 00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:05.680 i told you about my best friends you know who 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:11.359 also i got them kind of into it also um now hell 00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:14.240 yeah we we talked about every damn thing you 00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:19.339 know um we compared uh encounters all of the 00:32:19.339 --> 00:32:22.279 sexual encounters of course you know we we talked 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.619 about that uh could she you know because she's 00:32:25.619 --> 00:32:28.119 how did she suck dick you know how did she do 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.420 this did she lick ass did she do i mean the whole 00:32:30.420 --> 00:32:33.660 nine yards just a typical talk but we also talked 00:32:33.660 --> 00:32:38.519 about what the couples wanted and here again 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.039 it was all about the communication it was all 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.539 about you being able to adapt to what they want 00:32:45.539 --> 00:32:49.440 um you know you you got to bring you got to bring 00:32:49.440 --> 00:32:51.599 several types of traits man You got to bring 00:32:51.599 --> 00:32:54.740 several types of traits to the game. And I told 00:32:54.740 --> 00:32:57.059 you before, that's, of course, maintaining the 00:32:57.059 --> 00:32:59.880 clear boundaries. We talked about what we would 00:32:59.880 --> 00:33:02.880 do, what we wouldn't do. If we were put in certain 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.440 situations, will we go through with this? Will 00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:09.759 we not go through with it? You already know about 00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:13.259 the grooming. And like I said, being adaptable. 00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.140 You know what I'm saying? The ability for you 00:33:15.140 --> 00:33:20.059 to switch between the different types of engagements. 00:33:21.629 --> 00:33:24.690 Always being reliable. That was one thing that 00:33:24.690 --> 00:33:28.190 we damn talked about. If I told you that I will 00:33:28.190 --> 00:33:33.490 be there Sunday at 1500, this time wearing this, 00:33:33.589 --> 00:33:35.710 that, da -da -da -da -da, sitting in this spot, 00:33:35.890 --> 00:33:38.029 waiting on you to get there, then damn it, at 00:33:38.029 --> 00:33:40.950 255, I was there. So that was another thing that 00:33:40.950 --> 00:33:43.170 people liked. I was always fucking reliable. 00:33:43.710 --> 00:33:46.849 And here again, the last thing, the discretion. 00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.000 What I did, now other than telling the guys, 00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:54.599 my guys under that shit won't go anywhere. But 00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.119 going back, telling anybody else, that's what 00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:01.140 we did. It was all secretive. Only my friends 00:34:01.140 --> 00:34:03.960 knew about the escorting. Nobody else knew about 00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:07.440 that shit. Nobody else. And, of course, you know, 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.039 the couples, like I said, it was like doctor 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:15.820 privilege, confidentiality. Nice. Nice, nice, 00:34:15.820 --> 00:34:20.579 nice. So. Did you, I imagine like on the movies 00:34:20.579 --> 00:34:23.139 that I see or shows that about it, like, did 00:34:23.139 --> 00:34:26.159 you ever do any homework on the, your, you know, 00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:27.900 the, the person you were going to go out on a 00:34:27.900 --> 00:34:30.920 date with, or did the handler do homework? Were 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.199 they sitting down? Like, I imagine you in a like, 00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:38.460 like dimly lit restaurant, you know, like just 00:34:38.460 --> 00:34:42.639 wine on the table and she has a dossier and it's 00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:48.820 like, okay. This is Greta Von Schuster. And she 00:34:48.820 --> 00:34:51.119 works here. And this is her picture. And this 00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.340 is her ass. And she likes to get her, you know, 00:34:54.340 --> 00:34:56.460 dick slapped in her face. Like, did you guys 00:34:56.460 --> 00:35:01.360 do homework like that? I always spoke with Sylvia. 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.019 I always spoke. Damn, I said her name. Well, 00:35:04.019 --> 00:35:06.719 I didn't say her name. But I always spoke with 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.460 my handler. I always spoke with my handler. We 00:35:08.460 --> 00:35:11.579 sat down. And, you know, she gave me the rundown 00:35:11.579 --> 00:35:14.949 of what. her conversation was with you know with 00:35:14.949 --> 00:35:18.570 the lady or the couple and then she gave me the 00:35:18.570 --> 00:35:21.570 complete rundown the complete rundown and from 00:35:21.570 --> 00:35:25.429 there you know i would see pics um not a whole 00:35:25.429 --> 00:35:28.289 lot of pics i never i never wanted to see you 00:35:28.289 --> 00:35:30.210 know too many you know what i'm saying because 00:35:30.210 --> 00:35:34.269 i love the art of seduction i wanted to like 00:35:34.269 --> 00:35:37.809 be able to think think about you know what she 00:35:37.809 --> 00:35:39.690 really looks like in person you know what i'm 00:35:39.690 --> 00:35:42.469 saying if i see too many damn pictures then that's 00:35:42.469 --> 00:35:44.829 that's a turn off for me i just need to see maybe 00:35:44.829 --> 00:35:47.710 a couple of face and maybe one body you know 00:35:47.710 --> 00:35:51.090 and then that's it i let my imagination do every 00:35:51.090 --> 00:35:55.650 damn thing else you know and go from there but 00:35:55.650 --> 00:35:58.230 yeah we talked we talked exclusively though there 00:35:58.230 --> 00:36:00.329 was always a good you know hour maybe hour and 00:36:00.329 --> 00:36:04.329 so chat between she and i in person uh before 00:36:04.329 --> 00:36:06.739 i said you know okay Yeah, I'm going to take 00:36:06.739 --> 00:36:12.820 this and go with it. That's what's up. I like 00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:16.360 that. I like that. And, you know, I didn't know 00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.780 if that was Hollywood or if that really happened, 00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:21.800 and I think that's dope. Like, it definitely, 00:36:22.300 --> 00:36:26.320 what I like about it is, like, when people understand 00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:30.079 the psychological component of it, it's like 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:33.019 if you did that kind of homework for a girl you 00:36:33.019 --> 00:36:37.170 wanted to ask out. a lot of times you might be 00:36:37.170 --> 00:36:40.050 more successful, right? If you did that kind 00:36:40.050 --> 00:36:42.110 of homework with a girl that you want to play 00:36:42.110 --> 00:36:45.210 with, you just see her, you know, in the communities 00:36:45.210 --> 00:36:47.210 we are, we're in a lot of groups on Telegram. 00:36:47.489 --> 00:36:52.769 There's also groups in Kik and Discord, you know, 00:36:52.769 --> 00:36:57.199 in this community. You know, some people just 00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.440 see a woman shaking her ass and he's like, well, 00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.440 I want that. And that's all the homework he needs. 00:37:02.739 --> 00:37:05.280 And it's like, you don't need much more than 00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:09.239 that sometimes. So pot calling the kettle black 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.480 there, sir. You're like, oh, my dick wants that 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:17.760 booty. Sometimes. You do all this other research, 00:37:17.860 --> 00:37:20.579 but I'm talking about for this specific woman. 00:37:20.780 --> 00:37:23.480 You've done all this research before that, but 00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.760 not about her necessarily. And you could see 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.900 an ass shake and be like, yes. Mr. Dick, I didn't 00:37:29.900 --> 00:37:33.460 say that's what he does. I said Socrates does 00:37:33.460 --> 00:37:37.440 some research. I didn't hear you. Mr. Dick says 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:44.349 fat ass. Let's go. I was trying last night. I 00:37:44.349 --> 00:37:47.010 was trying to pick up a lady last night at this 00:37:47.010 --> 00:37:54.130 concert I went to with my friend. I didn't complete 00:37:54.130 --> 00:37:58.849 it, but man, she was hot. You would have liked 00:37:58.849 --> 00:38:03.510 her, babe. She was beautiful. I did get a picture 00:38:03.510 --> 00:38:06.289 with her, though. At least we'll have a picture. 00:38:07.779 --> 00:38:10.619 Okay. She's from right there in the area or what? 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.739 No, she is from far away. Oh, okay. And she was 00:38:13.739 --> 00:38:16.599 going home. She was going home today. So I, cause 00:38:16.599 --> 00:38:19.219 I was like, Hey, you know, what are you doing 00:38:19.219 --> 00:38:21.860 right now? She was like, Oh, I got to go with 00:38:21.860 --> 00:38:23.980 my friends. Cause I'm here visiting them. And 00:38:23.980 --> 00:38:32.019 you know, so she's practicing. Yeah. Yeah. So. 00:38:35.579 --> 00:38:38.519 I want to talk more about this. You know, I do 00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:42.840 want to do a part two, but talk, talk to me about, 00:38:42.980 --> 00:38:49.760 were you ever interested in the business side 00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:53.480 of it before you came back to the States? Oh, 00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:57.360 absolutely. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Had, had it, 00:38:57.380 --> 00:39:01.159 had the, had the, had the incident, you know, 00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:05.239 with the, with the help scare of my, parents 00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:09.000 not happened there's no doubt in my mind i would 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:13.460 i would be a very very successful uh owner of 00:39:13.460 --> 00:39:20.900 a male of a male escort business right now no 00:39:20.900 --> 00:39:27.559 doubt in my mind hell yeah um over there as well 00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:32.260 as here but over there oh my god oh my god um 00:39:33.780 --> 00:39:39.980 With the different types of black men that there 00:39:39.980 --> 00:39:42.440 are over there, and when I say types, I mean, 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.900 you know, the shades of black, your dark -skinned 00:39:45.900 --> 00:39:50.420 men, the guys that are very, very fit, the guys 00:39:50.420 --> 00:39:56.320 that fit other different, you know, smart, sapiosexual, 00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.659 you know, et cetera, et cetera. Oh, hell yeah. 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.679 It would be no problem putting together. um, 00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:07.239 at least to start off about eight to 10 good 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:13.059 guys. And absolutely where I was based, that 00:40:13.059 --> 00:40:15.760 was, that was considered like, uh, almost like 00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:18.860 a capital, you know, a capital spot where I was 00:40:18.860 --> 00:40:23.079 at, where you had two big cities, uh, within 00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:26.820 a six or seven minute drive of each other. Oh, 00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:31.630 fuck. Yeah. Hell yeah. I think about it all the 00:40:31.630 --> 00:40:34.690 time. I think about that all the fucking time. 00:40:35.170 --> 00:40:39.150 And it can be done here. It can. It can be done 00:40:39.150 --> 00:40:42.590 here. There is one agency here. Again, I won't 00:40:42.590 --> 00:40:45.250 mention the name, but they are very, very successful. 00:40:45.849 --> 00:40:49.130 The gentleman who owns it used to be an escort 00:40:49.130 --> 00:40:53.750 himself and got the idea of starting the straight 00:40:53.750 --> 00:41:00.639 male agency from another female. And he is extremely 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:04.599 successful. Extremely successful. And he has 00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:12.800 his guys from Vegas, Florida. He has one guy 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:14.860 located here in Charlotte, North Carolina. I 00:41:14.860 --> 00:41:18.199 think another in Raleigh. But he's all over the 00:41:18.199 --> 00:41:22.599 United States. All over. And he's doing very, 00:41:22.699 --> 00:41:25.500 very well. Very well. He's actually had a... 00:41:26.250 --> 00:41:29.889 A TV show that was on Showtime a few years ago. 00:41:30.449 --> 00:41:35.989 And I was a huge fan. Learned a lot. Learned 00:41:35.989 --> 00:41:39.409 a lot. So, hell yeah. Do you guys name your agencies? 00:41:39.489 --> 00:41:42.309 Like, what would your agency name have been? 00:41:42.469 --> 00:41:44.269 Or do you not want to share it? Because if you 00:41:44.269 --> 00:41:50.530 ever actually do it. I wouldn't share it right 00:41:50.530 --> 00:41:53.809 now. I really wouldn't. Somebody would probably 00:41:53.809 --> 00:41:55.679 take it and run with it. if they listen to the 00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:58.579 podcast and had the same you know idea so i keep 00:41:58.579 --> 00:42:03.420 that to myself um but believe me though if i 00:42:03.420 --> 00:42:06.199 could i already pictured i could i can picture 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:08.559 right now if something like that was to start 00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:13.400 here um just right here let's say you know on 00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:18.780 the east coast between atlanta and say new york 00:42:18.780 --> 00:42:21.960 and maybe we'll branch off to florida Right. 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.320 We could we could be I say we because, of course, 00:42:25.340 --> 00:42:27.980 I would want to bring in a couple of gentlemen. 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.239 I'm speaking to one right now. It's my brother, 00:42:32.340 --> 00:42:37.719 Socrates himself. And I know we will be successful. 00:42:37.940 --> 00:42:41.659 We will definitely be successful. Yeah, man, 00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:46.699 I just I love the idea. So I want to wrap it 00:42:46.699 --> 00:42:50.099 up at this point and we're going to talk about. 00:42:50.590 --> 00:42:54.050 On the next one, the part two, I really want 00:42:54.050 --> 00:42:57.150 to get into the emotional and intellectual intelligence 00:42:57.150 --> 00:43:01.869 side. But I felt like if I do that now, this 00:43:01.869 --> 00:43:04.110 podcast would definitely be an hour and a half. 00:43:04.289 --> 00:43:09.090 So I got 45 more questions about that. So is 00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:12.429 there anything like, do you have any horror stories 00:43:12.429 --> 00:43:15.190 or like amazing stories you want to end it with? 00:43:15.989 --> 00:43:19.230 I tell you what, let's save it for part two. 00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.380 because yeah i do have i do have some horror 00:43:22.380 --> 00:43:25.539 i do have some horror i've had i've had a lot 00:43:25.539 --> 00:43:29.539 of of great experiences i have um and different 00:43:29.539 --> 00:43:33.219 different types of experiences also but i'll 00:43:33.219 --> 00:43:36.599 i'll tell you more about a few horror stories 00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:40.880 um on part two all right let's leave let's leave 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:44.159 the audience uh in in you know with a little 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.829 uh what you call a hangover right now You know 00:43:47.829 --> 00:43:50.309 what I'm saying? Cliffhanger. They want more. 00:43:50.469 --> 00:43:54.289 Yeah, cliffhanger. There you go. And so we'll 00:43:54.289 --> 00:43:56.630 definitely talk about this again in a part two. 00:43:56.989 --> 00:44:00.030 Looking forward to it. Siren, any final questions 00:44:00.030 --> 00:44:04.849 or statement, anything you? Well, I definitely 00:44:04.849 --> 00:44:10.050 think it sounds interesting and definitely a 00:44:10.050 --> 00:44:13.909 perfect situation for especially single men. 00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:19.360 And I'm anxious to ask some questions and have 00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:22.219 some discussion about how married bulls would 00:44:22.219 --> 00:44:27.920 navigate that space in the future. So part two, 00:44:28.099 --> 00:44:32.760 I'll come up with some more thoughts. And just 00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:35.900 to put it out there, sweetie, you would be a 00:44:35.900 --> 00:44:38.800 hell of a client. You'd be a hell of a fucking 00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.980 encounter, all right? Yeah, but I'm not paying. 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:49.019 I'll pay you with mine. You know what? Being 00:44:49.019 --> 00:44:52.019 with me is payment, okay, for the men out there. 00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.679 So just know something. I'm never paying for 00:44:55.679 --> 00:45:01.960 that. I know what I bring to the table. And I 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:06.260 enjoy eating alone or with several guests. And 00:45:06.260 --> 00:45:08.360 I know a lot of women who said the very same 00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:10.440 thing. They wouldn't pay until they got bit. 00:45:10.739 --> 00:45:13.849 All right? So don't ever say you won't pay until 00:45:13.849 --> 00:45:16.130 you get the right goddamn dish. I wouldn't be 00:45:16.130 --> 00:45:20.630 paying if daddy would be paying. And on that 00:45:20.630 --> 00:45:22.289 note, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to close 00:45:22.289 --> 00:45:25.750 this one out tonight. All right. For Siren and 00:45:25.750 --> 00:45:29.650 my boy Socrates, this is B Morgan, a .k .a. the 00:45:29.650 --> 00:45:32.389 Sigma Male coming at you. We will be back with 00:45:32.389 --> 00:45:37.309 part two of this lovely episode. But until we 00:45:37.309 --> 00:45:40.039 do. To all my bull brothers out there, I bid 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:44.059 you good night. And to all my hot wives, sexy 00:45:44.059 --> 00:45:49.119 unicorns, and hell, who knows? Maybe some ladies 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:53.059 for the encounter one day. I bid you good morning. 00:45:53.900 --> 00:45:56.500 This is the Signal Mail coming at you. Till we 00:45:56.500 --> 00:45:59.880 meet again. Good night, everybody. Love y 'all. 00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:00.519 Bye -bye.