So the next night, I'm sitting in front of the
TV doing my homework. Yeah, I would study in
front of the TV, always have. I'm doing my homework,
studying for my test, and I turn around and I
look at him and I said, oh, by the way, I've
been thinking. Well, now anytime I use that term,
it gets his attention. Laser -focused attention.
And he says, yeah, what have you been thinking
of? I said, well, you know, I had fun having
sex with other guys when I was in high school
because... Nobody knew that I did that in high
school, but I was very quiet about it. And I
think we need to sign up for the whole program.
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Let's go. Hello, hello, there we go. I am one
of three parts of your host team siren we are
missing. The Sigma Male, Brian Morgan, as we
are live from Splash, and he wasn't able to attend,
but I'm here with my husband, Socrates. How you
doing, babe? What's good, y 'all? I'm doing good.
I'm doing good. And today we have one of... Man,
she runs this bitch here at Splash Mocha. We
have Tina on today. Hi, Tina. Hello. And she
was like, I'm not pulled apart of the brotherhood,
but she facilitates this... whole event, and
without her, we would not even have a Splash
Mocha, so we gotta give it up for Tina, but we
wanna hear the inside scoop on dealing with all
of the fun stuff inside and out of Splash. Socrates,
you gonna be the interviewer today? Yeah. With
Brian missing? Yep. Yeah, I'm not as smooth,
so I can't be like, so yeah, Tina, what's going
on? What you got? No, but... Yeah, Brian, have
your panties wet before we even, two minutes
in, like... Just with that voice. Yep, yep. Yeah,
he's smooth. So, yeah, we love this place. I
mean, I remember the first time coming here,
I didn't have a lot of great experience, especially
with Black men in the lifestyle, in group settings.
And so I was really apprehensive. My wife didn't
know what to expect. But one thing I really loved
is the vetting. They took a lot of time to vet
the gentleman and everybody, I think. And I was
just like, wow, I didn't know it can be this
way. Just everybody respectful. Everybody just
mingling and getting along with each other. Not
to say there isn't problems, but... It just works
smoothly. We're people, right? It just works
smoothly. So, you know, so we're just going to
kind of just talk about, get to know Tina a little
bit and see where it goes and really get into,
you know, how Splash Market works and what we
love about it. But Tina, talk to us a little
bit about, you know, just getting started in
the lifestyle. Like, you know. how long you've
been in the lifestyle, what got you started,
those kind of things. Yeah, because you and your
husband have been in it for a minute now. So
my husband and I have been in it for just over
20 years. It was completely my idea. You whore.
I know, I know. But yeah, it was completely my
idea. We went to a friend's house. Coincidentally,
that day, earlier that day, it was the day after
Christmas, I had actually torn my ACL riding
four -wheelers. And we went, we had plans to
go out with friends. We went out with friends
and we went back to their house and we were playing
a game called Asshole. Don't ask me how to play
it. I don't have a clue. And there was a rule.
We got playing and there was a rule that if a
jack of any kind was thrown down, the girls had
to play topless. So whoever won the last round
became president. And so next thing I know, we're
topless. And then, you know, there's, I don't
know, there's probably two, four, six, eight
couple, eight total people. So next thing I know,
one thing leads to another. The other girls start
playing together and they bring me in. Now, I
understand Jeb and I weren't in the lifestyle,
really never had heard anything about it. And
we... Unfortunately, I was played with, but I
couldn't do any playing because my knee was between
the size of a volleyball and basketball at that
point by that end of the night. Body positivity,
guys. Even if you got a big old injury, you're
still going to get your pussy ate. It's going
to be great. Work around it. You know, we did
that the next week. After work, my husband and
I, I was going to school. We went out to dinner.
Luckily, I was driving because he would have
wrecked the truck. I'm driving home, and I said,
I went, I've been thinking. And he's like, what
have you been thinking? I said, well, you know,
over at our friend's house this weekend, you
know, I had the girl -girl experience. I think
I want to experience a little bit more. So, and
he was like. What? That's awesome. You know,
all men want to see two girls together. They
think that is, you know, that's the best thing
ever. I still do. So we go home. I sit down in
front of the TV, and I'm working on college algebra,
and he's got the laptop in his lap, and he's
doing research. So the next night, I'm sitting
in front of the TV doing my homework. Yeah, I
would study in front of the TV, always have.
I'm doing my homework, studying for my test.
And I turn around and I look at him and I said,
oh, by the way, I've been thinking. Well, now
anytime I use that term, it gets his attention.
Laser -focused attention. And he says, yeah,
what have you been thinking of? I said, well,
you know, I had fun having sex with other guys
when I was in high school. Nobody knew that I
did that in high school, but I was, you know,
very quiet about it. And I think we need to sign
up for the whole program. And that was it. That
was the end of it. And he was like, so I get
to play too? I said, yeah. So it's kind of, you
know, we started out with rules and things. And
then as you stay in it longer, we started to
evolve. And so our rules turned into whatever.
The other couples rules were so we really didn't
have any rules We just kind of went with whatever
they chose if they chose to be in the same room
Then we were in the same room if they were okay
with being separate rooms We were okay with separate
rooms and it was just a couple's thing. You know,
we didn't know any better There was one lifestyle
website that we were on. It's no longer in existence.
And we went there. Good God. There was meet and
greets and house parties. And every weekend you
could get out and go be around people. And that's
what we started doing. And, you know, we never
even gave it the single guy thing a thought,
you know, because you're just learning. You just
learn. And, again, it's evolution. Now it's just
like mostly we're just kind of, both of us are
kind of open. We come to these, we're working
the parties, and he's like, hey, I got a date,
and he tells me who, and I'm like, have fun.
He comes back. I said, you have fun? Yep. You
make sure she had fun? He says, yep. That's the
end of conversation. And we're like, all right,
cool. High five. Yep. That's the extent, but
that's where we started. So we've got just over
20 years in the lifestyle now. That's awesome.
Wonderful. And I work this, and by the way, this
is my full -time job. This isn't like something
I do on the evening after my day job. This is
my day job. I work for Mocha full -time. Nice.
Best job ever. And yes, I do have the world's
largest little black book. Yes, you do. How many
J's do you have in there? You'd be surprised.
I don't even exercise that little black book,
but I could. I stay so busy. So how did you transition
from it being a thing that you guys did to, like,
a job? Like, tell us about meeting the other
owners. So Wayne and Missy are the owners of
Splash Mocha. And they always have been since
day one. So we met them at a house party. Oh,
God. I guess it's been 13 or 14 years ago. And
we just kind of. you know, hit it off, which
you do when you're on your knees in front of
some guy you just met. He's like, you can be
my friend now. So, you know, we kind of hit it
off there. And then we just started hanging out.
And here and there, it wasn't a whole lot. And
next thing I know, there was a club in Coco because
I'm originally from, my husband and I are originally
from Florida. They were living in Florida. And
they invited it to this new lifestyle club. And
we went to. We went to the club, and we started
hanging out a lot. And they had been trying to
get us to go to an event they helped with called
Splash Takeovers, which that was well before
mocha was ever a little star thought in their
brains. A little twinkle in the brain thought.
Yeah, a little twinkle. So they've been trying
to get us to go to Splash Takeovers. We were
always busy. I was scared to death to go to something
that huge. And next thing we know, it was on
a Tuesday, Wednesday evening after work. Wayne
calls and says, hey, we just bought Splash Takeovers.
And coincidentally, it was at this very hotel
and we just bought it from Dixie. And we would
we would we got a couple of rooms available.
We'd love for you to come and be our guest. No
charge. So Jeb and I said, well, we can't this.
We can't just. come for all three days, we can't
get off work that quick. We'll be down there
as soon as we get off work on Friday. So we drove
down here. Jeb and I pretty much hid in our room
for the most part. And we'd come down and kind
of mix and mingle a little bit. But just like
anybody else knew, we were a deer caught in headlights,
right? So, you know, we're trying to hang out
with Wayne and Missy, but we know that they're
busy. So Sunday, We get up, we check out, we
put our luggage in the car, and we come back
here to look for Wayne and Missy to say goodbye
and thank them for giving us a room and, you
know, tell them we enjoyed ourselves. And I guess
it was about 9 o 'clock in the morning, and they're
tearing down. So we, my husband and I, we don't
just wait for, be asked, like so many people
do, hey, do you mind helping us out? That's not
what we do. We just start digging in. Just jump
in. We just jump in, start picking shit up, start.
helping them load it up and we unfortunately
we can only help until noon because my husband's
mom had a big family dinner planned at four o
'clock that day so we had to haul ass at noon
to get back to Brevard County which was a three
and a half hour drive so we can get ready for
dinner with the family. So we helped at noon,
and next thing I know, afterwards, Wayne and
Missy, the next time we hang out with them, they
said, hey, we'd really like it if you'd come
help us at Splash Takeovers the next year, help
at registration and stuff. And I'm like, sure,
okay. So at that time, they stored all their
gear in a storage unit. And he would rent moving
trucks, two moving trucks. We unloaded it out
of the storage unit, loaded it into a moving
truck, drove it. drove them three and a half
hours to Fort Lauderdale unload it out of the
moving truck set it up and then at the end of
the party load it all back up on the moving trucks
drive it back to Brevard County unload it into
the storage unit because we had to have the trucks
back that night Lots of thoughts, lots of work.
Sounds like it. Yeah. So then the next year I
was helping him. I'm tired just listening. And
we, yeah, me too. And we helped him again. And
then all of a sudden their daughter was graduated
high school. She was starting her first year
in college. And they wanted to help her move
in. And they had that whole transition. So they
chose a hotel in Melbourne. And that's where
Splash Mocha was born. They did Splash Mocha
that August in an 80 -room hotel. I think it
was 80. Might be a little more. Could be a little
less. In Melbourne, Florida. And the next month
they had it at the same hotel because they needed
something a little bit smaller. They needed to
be there for her first day, which they left to
go to Deland to get her moved into the dorm in
the middle of the party. So I'm not I'm not officially
working for him. I'm just some dumb friend who's
agreed to help them with this event. Because
my husband and I used to he used to be a fire
chief in our community, volunteer fire chief.
And we put on one of Brevard County's largest
Christmas parades and barbecues. So we know what
it's like to do hard work. And they left kind
of left us kind of in kind of sort of unofficially
kind of. In charge, but not really. Just keep
an eye on things. Call if you need anything.
The next year, we had it there. And the year
after that, we were back down here. And the first
year, they were a little sketchy on it. And Wayne
told Missy, let's try it again. Let's try Splash
Mocha again. And from that, the next year, it
kind of took off. The popularity was amazing.
And we moved it to this facility here. And they
sold it out that first year. It was definitely
quite interesting. And you could definitely tell
from the very beginning that it was going to
be something special. Yeah. And what was the
conversation like, though? Like, how did you
guys come up with like this? Hey, there is this
need for an event that caters to single men.
Right. particularly Black men and people who
want to interact with them? What was that conversation
like? You didn't just wake up and be like, oh,
I should just have an event for single Black
men. I think that would be good. What was that
conversation like? At Splash Takeovers, they
had what they called the chocolate room. So they
had a playroom that was the chocolate room. And
there's several gentlemen here that were participating
in the chocolate room at Splash Takeovers. And
the popularity of that room was unparalleled
to the rest. And, you know, they took it from
there. They saw a need and they were still going
to other lifestyle events. And they were noticing
that that the guys were kind of getting the shaft
per se. No pun intended on that one. Please transfer
that to me. No pun intended, but they weren't
getting a fair shake in the lifestyle. And even
now, they still pay the maximum amount, while
single girls, no dinging the single girls, but
they get in for free or next to nothing, and
then they're charging the couples a very minimal
amount. And the single guys are $100, $150, $200.
I hate that. There's no party without a dick.
Exactly. I'm like, let the single guys in for
free. Fire ruled the world. So that's where the
concept came from, is they saw how popular that
room was, and so they started doing a little
research, and then they had Splash Takeovers,
and then the name Splash Mocha came up because
it was going to be catered to couples, and specifically
single black men, but we don't discriminate.
It's open to all men as long as they go through
the vetting process and they're a good fit. They
may have to work a little harder than you or
Socrates or you or you. And that's what I tell
them when they call. I'm like, hey, we don't
discriminate. You're more than welcome, but you're
not going to be top of the menu. And those are
the words I use. You may have to work a little
bit harder, but don't be offended. You can't
be offended if a woman says, hey, you're just
not my type. Because some of them are specific
to single black men. You just say, thank you
very much. I enjoyed talking to you. Move on
to the next couple because that woman might say
yes. So that's how we handle it. And we got a
couple of several guys that come. They can't
come to every party, but they have a great time.
And they get laid just as much as the next guy.
So, you know, it is open. But they all still
have to go through all the same vetting process,
everybody else. If they don't make that cut,
we don't have a problem saying, I am so sorry,
but you're not going to be a good fit for the
event. One of the things that I love, like I
said, when I first came here, I had some really
bad experiences in the lifestyle when it comes
to going to events where they cater to single
black men. And I'll just say this, coming from
California and the community I am, this is not
about all black men, what I'm about to say. This
is not most black men. And this is not the lifestyle
in general. This is my experience in Los Angeles.
I come from gang culture. That's another thing
I'm going to add. So when I say this, I'm going
to make that clear. But I kind of ran into that
it ain't no fun unless the homies can have some
type of shit. You know, like that I'm going to
run a train on a bitch type of thing. And I was
really concerned about that because I wasn't
having that with my wife. You ain't treating
my wife that way. But what I was really impressed
with, what I think is incredible, is the bedding.
The gentlemen here are professionals. You get
people that are highest security clearance people
in any kind of industry, military, businessmen,
every type of gentleman, but they're respectful.
They know how to approach your wife. Us being
stag, vixen couple, I'm concerned about how you
approach me. How do you approach us as a couple?
How do you approach my wife? My question to you,
Tina, is how did you guys get the vetting down
so well? I know, you know, people slip through
the cracks, right? But how did you guys get the
vetting down so well? So, you know, they have
to call me first. They have to talk to me. And
I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I'm a pretty
good judge of character. I can read people pretty
damn quick, even over the phone. And, yeah, I
mean, I'm not perfect. And, yes, some guys know
how to walk the walk and talk the talk and say
the right words to get through. And then eventually
they will catch themselves because they won't
act right and will weed themselves out. So, you
know, the old saying, trash just took itself
out. But they do have to talk to me. They have
to get through me first. And then I will send
a text to Dimitri. That gentleman is in that
text, and it's an introduction, and then they
get to talk to Dimitri. Now, I'm pretty tough,
but Dimitri is even tougher. So out of every
10 guys that call, two make it through. So, you
know, he is all about you've got to respect yourself
first. And if you start calling him, you talk
to me as a professional, and you're on the up
and up, and you get Dimitri on the phone, and
you start talking like... you know, your brother's
in the hood, he shuts them down. He's like, you
know, you don't know me. You don't talk to me
like that. You're not respecting yourself. You're
not respecting me. And you're not going to go
to Splash Mocha talking to the other guys like
that because that's not what we're about. So
he's pretty tough. He's a pretty tough nut to
get through. And between the two of us, I think
we do a pretty good job. I might send a guy to
him in a text, but on the outside, I'm sending
him another text going, hey, I'm not too sure
about this guy. It was like pulling a saber -toothed
tiger's... Tooth out to get him to answer my
questions and get him to talk and I tell him
I don't know if he was just shy because he's
talking to a female and He's a little uncomfortable
or he might be just a little too young And just
doesn't know how to communicate and so Dimitri
will feel him out and sometimes They're they
were just nervous to talk to me And he's like,
nope, they're a good guy. And then there's other
times he's like, yeah, he has the social skills
of a gnat. Or when we talk to him about it on
his podcast with us. He was like, yeah, and if
they send me a dick pic, I'm like, meh. Here,
I got a big dick. Let me in. Yeah, I get those
pictures, too. I have had, over the years, I'll
just open an email, and it's a dick pic, and
it's like, would I make the cut to come to Splash
Mocha? And they don't include the name. They
don't include a phone number, and it's just the
dick pic, and that's all it is. I say hello.
If you can't ask me general questions, I do not
appreciate random unsolicited dick pics to come
through my email. I'm a professional person.
I am so sorry. I do not feel like you're a good
fit for the event. If this is how you're going
to present yourself right out of the gate, I
wish you lots of luck in your lifestyle endeavors.
Sincerely, Tina. And then they'll try to, oh,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't answer the questions
after that. I don't answer any more emails after
that. You will go on the wall of shame at Splash
Mocha corporate with your dick pic up on the
wall and we throw darts at it. I try to deflate
that thing like a voodoo doll. May you have ED
for the rest of your life. Because you don't
know how to handle yourself anyway. But I've
had single females do the same thing. Send me
a naked photo of themselves. I can see their
tonsils from between their legs. I'm like, they
get the same goddamn email. I don't want to see
that at 8 .16 in the morning. Y 'all should see
her, babe. There's not enough coffee or even
Irish coffee for that. Oh, my goodness. Maybe
there's some sort of drug that will erase my
memory. I'm not to remember what I saw. But sometimes
there's still wax on it from when they went to
the wax. I had Drusillian wax from the day before.
I'm not lying. That's a true story. Are you serious?
I am dead serious. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.
Another thing they do that really impressed me,
and I'll never forget. Tina, so it's not just
a place where you come and fuck everywhere. There
are a lot of classes here. There are a lot of
things that you can come to to ask questions,
for them to educate you on how it works. And
one of the things that is required, it's mandatory,
is that all single men go to a meeting. And at
that meeting, they'll go over. some of the fundamentals,
and then they let the vets get up and put you
on game. And I love that. So talk to us about
that. What sparked that? Is that something you
first thought of in the beginning? And you said,
we got to let these men know how to conduct themselves
and how to approach and how to, you know, from
the registration to leaving here. Is that something
that came up in the beginning? Yes, it's been
a part of Splash Mocha since day one. What it
does, it helps the guys be accountable to each
other. It creates a culture and brotherhood amongst
the men. They're our first line of defense. We
can't get the couple's undivided attention, but
we have the guys' undivided attention. And it's
a way for us to separate Splash Mocha from the
rest of the parties. And it works. And a lot
of the guys don't like coming because they've
been coming since. They've come to 15 parties,
and it's the same, same, same. But we still make
it a requirement. I don't care if you've been
to all of them. You still need to go. It might
be the same information, but we also throw in
more information that you've not heard of. And
we try to make them aware of things that are
going on because we do protect the single guys
at our event. After all, it's the couples are
coming for the single men. And it's an hour of
their time. Not even that. This time we wrapped
the meeting up in 35 minutes. So we get out as
much information as we can. And they even get
a chance. We open the floor up for their peers.
to talk to each other and to throw out their
ideas and to talk. And so they're just not hearing
it from us. Don't do this. Clean up the playrooms.
Don't throw your condoms on the floor. Put them
in the trash can, blah, blah, blah. Clean up
after you get done having sex. They're hearing
from their peers, from the guys that are witnessing
what's going on in another guest room, in the
playrooms. So you've really got that. So we do
turn the floor over so they can. Go, okay, guys,
you guys got to start doing this. And they kind
of take heed a little bit better from the guys
randomly talking about this is what I've seen
and everything. It does create a great camaraderie
amongst the guys, and they hold each other accountable.
And what we say in the meeting, they'll be in
the playroom. And one guy will tap his friend
on the shoulder and say, here, you forgot to
put down a clean sheet you just got done playing
on. Right. Or, hey, you just dropped your used
condom on the floor. You may want to pick it
up. So that's what it's for. And then the guys
will, as they play with couples in the playrooms
and they get up from playing, the guys will politely
ask the couples, hey, would you mind helping
me throw this clean sheet on the... Exactly.
On the bed. So now it's trickling down into the
couples to help keep after. Put a clean sheet
on the bed after you're done playing so then
the next person can come up because you just
laid down on a clean sheet. Now some of the playrooms
that by the end of the night get so busy that
they're not even worried about playing on sheets.
They're just playing on the mattress. It's like,
hey, I've got to handle that. It matters a lot
of money or that's not going to be fun. But,
yeah, they they it's it's a it's a positive thing.
And we try to keep it upbeat and positive. And
and I think we will continue doing the meeting
because it's a way for us to get really good
information out there. And look, gentlemen, Tina
will lay down the fucking law. So don't get it
twisted. It's very positive. But she will straighten
anything out. Dimitri gets up there and we have
some other gentlemen that we know, Mr. Mocha.
He'll get up there and straighten you out. And
if you've seen these guys, you would definitely
not want to challenge them about any of it. The
Lion is another one that will do it, too. Yep.
One of the times, I think it was probably our
fifth or sixth time we came, Tina came to me
and said, Socrates. You're married. Why you keep
coming? You don't have to come. And I'm like,
you don't understand. They put me up on so much
game. I learned so much every single time. One
of my favorite things that they came up with,
I think it was here the first time I heard it,
was Shot Clock. And for those that don't know,
you know, when you're in a group setting. Or,
you know, whether you're playing or just out
in, you know, the bar area or talking to someone.
Sometimes, you know, let's say you're just meeting
someone and you're a male and you're going up
to a couple and you're talking. You're not reading
the body language. You're not reading the room.
You're not looking at how they're interacting.
You're just talking and talking and talking.
and there's another guy there he's looking he's
been checking that woman out for a long time
and he wants to go and so a lot of the gentlemen
were complaining hey man you guys are up there
talking to this girl for an hour and she was
you know you know her her body was facing the
other way earning away from you and she just
You know, every time another guy comes along,
she's like, hey, how you doing? What's up? You
know, you know, and so trying to get this gay
pie. Right, right. Come get me, you know. And
so we came up with Shot Clock, which means if
you see another brother out there talking to
a couple and it's been a while, the guy might
come and say, hey, man, whispering, hey, Shot
Clock, brother. That lets you know, hey, man,
you know, you got to get, you know. Wrap it up.
Wrap it up. Start your closing argument on why
you should be selected, right? And I just love
that because, you know, I've got advice from,
hey, man, you know, you had a really passionate
session and you're ready to go back down and
put some lemon juice on it, you know, so you
can really get it. I've heard, you know, just
great advice. And I love that because. Self -policing
is the best. When you have your peers, like Tina
said, telling you. When you have so many brothers
here. good -looking brother, 6 '2", 6 '5", 6
'8", 250 pounds. He knows how. He's smooth. And
that guy's saying, hey, some of these are the
things that we do to make the experience better
for everyone. And you have all these other brothers
saying, hey, man, you keep doing this stuff and
messing up my opportunity here at Splash, some
of the best places I've ever been, I'm going
to talk to you. And that kind of self -policing
really makes it to where I feel... better here
than any other place to let my wife do her thing.
Before we get on to some of the other questions,
we have audience members here. Does anybody want
to come up and ask questions about Splash or
anything in particular? No? I need you to go
to the single men meeting and smile at them and
let them know that it's okay. Because still seven
splashes in, I'm like, okay, maybe smile at them
a little bit so they're not like, oh, can't go
up to her. I have a very special memory, though,
from the men's meeting. Was that our first one?
I don't know if that was a men's meeting or a
different seminar. Oh. You're talking about how
you got your name? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if
that was a men's meeting. I think that was a
seminar. Oh, because there was couples in there.
Yeah. Yeah, but Pup Pulse can still come to the
men's meeting. It's just me. Okay, what was his
seminar on then? He was, like, going to all the
classes. Yeah, I was. Okay, well, I feel less
guilty than if it was in the men's meeting because
I had a single man occupied two ballrooms away
for that meeting, and apparently I was being
very loud. and Michael C. was running that meeting,
and he was like— Oh, he was doing his—he was
probably doing his seminar while he was in it
because Michael C. doesn't run the meetings.
Dimitri and I do. Yeah. So he—I mean, unless
he was in there making comments, so he had to
be doing his seminar. Well, if there was couples
in there. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. I
don't feel so bad now because all these years
I'm like, oh, I took this single guy away from
the important meeting. And so I was being really
loud, I guess. And then Michael C. was like—
What did he say, babe? He said... Well, so we
were... Yeah, we were in one of the rooms at
that time where, you know, Michael C. was giving
his seminar. And right next door, there's...
No, it was two ballrooms away. No. It was two
ball... I was two ballrooms away. Oh, yeah, you
were, you were. It was a waste. So we were, you
know, I was in there listening, and you kept
hearing these screams and moans. and yelling
and all of that kind of stuff. And after a while,
he stopped the meeting. Yeah, he was like, what
is that going on? He's like, this is what Slash
Oka is all about. It was in Atlanta. Was it?
No, no, it was Houston. It was our second Houston.
Yeah. Okay. It was our second Houston. And then
he's like, this is what Splash Mocha is all about.
And then he's like, oh, sorry, everybody. I think
that belongs to me. Yeah. Yeah. I said, my bad.
That's my bad. And then they tried to start again.
And there was and it was just so noisy, I guess.
And then Michael was like, sounds like a siren
or something. So then that's how I got my name.
And so that guy, he didn't know until like two
years later. That that's how I got my name. And
so now he's like, you know, Siren, that was me.
Because, I mean, we can hear it over the, you
know, because there's walls that separate each
ballroom. And we can hear it over so much that
he had to keep, you know, sorry about that, guys.
You know, he was like, she's enjoying herself.
So, yeah, it was nice. It was nice. No turning
back. Tina, talk to me about some of the really
fun times. You have a story of one of the funniest
or fun things that you've seen since you started
Splash, something that maybe the people hearing
it won't be too embarrassed about. How do you
put me on the spot? I can't think of anything
off the top of my head right now because every
event is different. Man, honestly, I can't come
up with anything, but there's just so many. I
don't know if I could pick out just one other
than any funny things, other than I can't think
of anything. Of course, I'll think of five of
them. We'll do a post one. You can call us, and
then we'll put it back in. You wake up in the
middle of the night. Yeah, no, when I get a chance
to go to bed. I'm out. There's no, hey, Jeb,
come over here and service me. No. It's like,
don't even breathe in my direction. I'm going
to bed. I got a long day tomorrow. How has Splash
Mocha evolved, if it has? Like, you know, if
you listen to the podcast, Brian Morgan loves
the word evolution. He loves talking about how
things evolve. So you guys had this vision, or
Wayne and Missy had this vision of Splash Mocha,
and they saw it grow and they saw it could be
what it could be. How has it evolved since? Because
this is what, your 10 -year anniversary, right?
10 -year anniversary. 10 -year anniversary. So
congratulations for putting something together
for that long. For both of us, we both have experience
in events, not in the lifestyle, but outside
of it. And we know how hard it is to run a well
-run event the way this is. I mean, when you
guys come here, you see it's completely done
up. So before you even get into the hotel, there's
security staff out there checking to see if you're
even on the list. What I love about the lifestyle
is I like to get freaky as fuck, but if you're
vanilla, I don't like people seeing that. Because
even when I'm on the streets, I don't want to
see any of that. So when you pull in, they're
going to double check, number one, that you're
supposed to be here. And number two, you ain't
bringing your kids, you know. Some Wednesday
nights in Houston have been a little awkward
in the lobby. And then, you know, when you come
in, it is well decorated. The registration is
right there. Things are covered. So even if you
get past security, you're not seeing anything.
But how has it evolved to the sense that, you
know, you started off with certain things that
every lifestyle hotel takeover has set up and
they need to do, and then as it is now, what
are the things that's changed or gotten better
or moved that you feel like is giving people
better experience? Well, for one, the dance floor.
We used to use, the hotel used to set up the
dance floor now. Wayne and Missy have purchased
a... beautiful led lighted dance floor for everybody's
experience um we've got the led lighted stripper
poles they were once a metal frame with plywood
on it and um a conduit electrical conduit painted
black and um which was which was fine next to
the parquet floor that the hotel put down well
then he bought the beautiful led lighted dance
floor and it's like hmm now it just looks like
Trailer trash. So then because of me, he upgraded
the stripper poles. When they started, it was
basically a speaker on a stick for the DJ. And
DJ Rockin' Ronnie is our production manager.
He's been in the lifestyle for years, and he
pretty much does nothing but lifestyle events
as a DJ. And he would bring all the equipment.
And all the DJ equipment. And then Wayne and
Missy started purchasing the equipment as Splash
Mocha grew. They're very good at reinvesting
back into the company. The tablecloths here in
the ballroom that we're sitting in all say Splash
Mocha. All the way down to the trash cans. We
bring in our own trash cans. And they have Splash
Mocha trash can liners that go on them. So everything's
branded and labeled. All the pipe and drape,
you know, we bring in all the mattresses. Nice.
You know, and those mattresses have even evolved.
In the beginning, he had went out and bought
mattresses from a hotel that was closing. And
he brought those. And that's what we would lug
around. Let me tell you what. Have you ever tried
to pick up a king -size mattress on your bed?
That's like, first of all, they're fucking heavy.
Excuse me for my language. Secondly, they're
like a damn wet noodle. They just got a mind
of their own. So those were a bitch to move and
pack and stack and all the grossness on them
after trying to load them in the trailer. Crusties.
Yeah, and I'm trying to, I've got to hold them
back so they can get the next one in. I'm the
one that's kind of stuck to them. There were
times I thought they were just going to close
the trailer on me and keep me between the matches.
You know, kind of like Princess and the Pea.
And now the mattresses that they have, they're
box spring mattress all in one. They bought the
bed frames that go with them. They fold up like
a transformer. So we bring in all the mattresses,
all the pipe and drape. Everything, when you
come to Splash Mocha, everything you see belongs
to Splash Mocha. The only thing the hotel provides,
they do normal hotel stuff, is they set the table
and chairs in the ballroom. We do everything
else. We set the playrooms. We set the pipe and
drape. We put all the decorations on. We do all
the DJ equipment. Everything you see is Splash
Mocha. And I'm part of the setup crew. I'm also
part of the teardown crew. I just don't take
everybody's reservations, answer text messages,
phone calls, emails, and just general questions.
I'm in those trailers sweating with the men and
doing setup. They went from moving trucks. Like
we said at the top of this podcast, he now has
upgraded it to two 51 -foot enclosed trailers
that are custom built. Nice. And two freight
liners that pull them all. And we get a lot of
people that say, when are you coming to California?
Because of that, and it's Wayne, the owner, he
drives one of the trucks and trailers. His son
drives the other one. And I'm usually as a passenger
in one of those trucks. whether we're coming
down here, whether we're going to Houston. Houston's
a two -day travel event for us just to get there
and a two -day travel event just to get back.
So all of that has evolved. So now there's no
more unloading everything into a storage unit.
Everything lives in the trailers. So all that's
evolved. We have all of our rules on, we call
them A -frames. They're kind of like a sandwich
board, but soft -sided. And so this way nobody
can say, well, I didn't know the rules. Well,
there's an A -frame with all the rules probably
every 12 feet, especially in a lobby. So when
somebody is taking a photo in the hotel and it's
not in a designated photo backdrop, they're like,
oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know the rules. I point
probably to six wards that have the rules on
them. It's the fourth one down from the top.
There's your rules. Is that in the vetting, though?
A reading test? I have come to the conclusion,
because I have not been officially working for
Splash Mocha for the 10 years. Two years of that,
I was just helping my friends. For eight and
a half years, I have been officially working
full -time for Splash Mocha. And I have come
to the conclusion, swingers can't read. That's
what we're going to name this podcast, Swingers
Can't Read. Maybe we're just too drunk by this
time. That or the horniness is like those rose
-colored glasses, you know? It's like beer goggles.
The horniness is beer goggles. If it's not a
dick, I can't see it. Exactly. I think that's
the problem. They've got their horny goggles
on. What's the total manpower it takes? Total
manpower. Okay. The question is the total manpower.
How much total manpower does it take for Splash
Boca? Right. So we have, there could be last
month in July, we only had nine people to do
all the setup. This time we're probably at about
12 people. I mean, that's not that many people
to do that. You know, the ones that lead it up
is Wayne, me, and Jeb. And we... Get it done.
Get it unloaded, and everybody pitches in and
does what they're supposed to do. But, yeah,
that's all we have. We don't have roadies. We
have single guys who have volunteered to help
doing set -up and tear -down. Set -up and tear
-down is not easy. It sucks. It hurts, especially
on Sunday for tear -down when a lot of them have
been up all night long. My husband's one of them.
He'll go to bed tonight around 630, 7 o 'clock,
and he's back up at 130. Because the ballroom's
got to be torn down at 2. The ballroom, the dance
closes at 2. Playrooms close at 3 a .m. So he'll
stay up all night. And he'll get this all torn
down. The LED screens will get torn down. The
dance floor gets all torn down. Everything has
to come down. And then they start opening all
the air walls and tearing the rest of it down.
So, and then I come down in the morning. And
I get down here about 6 .30, quarter of 7. And
we start. And we're usually torn down by noon.
Noon, 1 o 'clock. And closing the trailers. And
we do it with very little. Question was, how
many would you prefer? Well, we don't want too
many because then you got a lot of people standing
around and they're half -assed doing their job.
You don't want too little either. So, you know,
I would say 10 to 12 is probably about the maximum
because. You also don't want things just thrown
and tossed around. Everything's got to be handled
a certain way. That's how we keep everything
nice, and we try to stress that. So you get too
many people. It's like a baker. Too many fingers
in the pie, you're going to screw it up. So I
would say 10 to 12 is probably our optimal number
of folks, and we've got quite a few of the guys
on the team that know what to do. They've done
it enough, and we could start setting up rooms.
We could get a couple rooms going at the same
time with a piping drape and getting those frames
up. But, yeah, it's definitely a well -oiled
machine, and there's always room for improvement.
So, but, yeah. He said lube makes everything
better. That's what I was going to say. I was
like, don't you mean lubed machine? So what's
the future of Splash? What are you guys looking
forward to? Is there any plans you have in the
future, or is it just to keep it going and keep
it running tight? Well, as you guys, as everybody
in this room knows, one, we run a tight ship.
We not only, as Splash Mocha staff, do we tow
the line, but we ask our guests to tow the line.
We keep it professional and classy, and we strive
for excellence at each and every party, okay?
Now I forgot your question. No, I love all that.
No, that's the character of Splash. What's the
future like? What are you guys looking forward
to? So now I remember where I was going with
that. So we do all that, and the future is, you
know, we want to keep it going because when you
sit down and think of it, Splash Mocha is really
larger than all of us. So, yes, we want to keep
it going. And I know Wayne and Missy, they're
wanting to grow it just a little bit more. And
that's just a matter of timing. The right city,
the right state, the right hotel, the right everything.
It's just got to be right. So they're looking
to grow it eventually into maybe another city
or two. Not out west because logistically that
would be a nightmare. We would be gone if we
went to Las Vegas or even out to California.
Just the fact that we would be gone 30 days.
from our homes and families for that event. As
it is, we get to the event a week early. And
if we're going out to Houston, that's a two -day
travel. And the reason we get out a week early
is in case we have any mechanical failures. One
year, we were driving out to Houston. We were
five and a half hours from the house. And in
one, not the freight liners, they were using
a dually. The transmission cut loose and broke.
You can't fix transmission on the side of the
road. Right. So we still got into the hotel the
day we were planning to. We got it worked out.
We got a place to store that truck. We were just
west of Birmingham for that week, and Wayne and
Missy worked it out, and we got on site about
four hours later than we were supposed to, but
we got there. So that's why we go out so early.
is if we have issues. And we also like getting
there to start meeting with the hotel, getting
all the ducks in a row, making sure everything
is in line, making sure the hotel doesn't need
anything. So, you know, if we were to go that
far, we would have to leave a week before we
need to be there. Then we're there a week before
the party. Then you have the party. Then we have
another travel of a week, not to mention the
wear and tear on the tires, the trucks, food.
You got to feed us all. hotel stay wayne only
drives six to eight hours so he can keep everybody
safe there's a look at how many hotels are putting
in teeny tiny little parking lots there's not
many hotels that will accommodate a semi a semi
truck let alone two semi trucks because we're
the same we're a couple inches shy of a semi
truck so you know we got to think of all that
and there's People that just don't understand.
We just don't show up at a hotel and go, oh,
we're here, let's party. So everything you see
here is done by us. We've been a part of those
kind of events. So we have probably collectively,
I mean, I've not been, I probably did like 15
weddings. I don't know how many you did when
you had your event center. um catered for christmas
galas been on committees for charity galas all
kinds of things that were run really well and
we've definitely seen somewhere you know oh i
made this menu it took me eight hours i'm like
chat gbt made the whole menu in 15 minutes i'm
sorry you wasted your time but that ain't my
fault so You know, we definitely know a good
event when we see it and can appreciate. That's
why I told you, you're like, I said, I know what
you're doing. And on a daily basis, the two people
that work full time on it is Wayne and myself
and then Missy. She has a day job. She has a
real day job. And she does mocha stuff in the
evening and on the weekends. So she's like, there's
two and a half of us that do this. Full term.
And what Wayne and I do and Missy does is probably
about the equivalent of five people. I believe
it. Do you have a question? No. Oh. The question
was, how do you guys pick the location? Well,
it depends. It depends on state laws. Not just
state laws about sex, but state laws, labor laws.
We can't go into California or New York. due
to labor laws. We can't bring our volunteer staff
to do it. They can't touch anything. We have
to hire people from the labor board to come in
and do it and pay $30 an hour per person. And
then they have to bring so many people in because
that person's only qualified to lift a box. This
person's only qualified to move chairs. That
person's only qualified to do tables. When the
tables are moved, nobody else can touch it. So,
you know, They have an attorney that looks into
all that for us as well. It depends on the hotel.
They'll go to 200 hotels and get one that might
say maybe because it goes against their religion.
They don't want it. They've heard horror stories
about other lifestyle events. Because they don't
leave any stone unturned. We don't go in there
and not tell the hotel exactly what we're doing.
Because we're not going to get there in the middle
of the party, them shut us down. We don't have
an event anymore. Because at that point, we've
lost the trust of our guests. Because our guests
trust us to keep them safe. And that includes
not getting the party shut down in the middle
of the event. So it's all this pap. All the planets,
the stars, Halley's Comet, everything has to
be in the right line for it to work out to pick
a venue. But it starts with the state sex laws.
Because there's some states that have old, old
laws from 1700, 1800s on the books. It's all
going to be lost. It's right there. Yes. Tennessee
is one of them. There's a law on the book about
black men and white women having sex. Yeah. Which
it probably wouldn't stand in a... court of law
these days but you don't want some barney fife
wanting to make a name for himself showing up
knocking on the door going we're shutting you
down and we're arresting you know half a dozen
of you all of you we don't we don't need that
so he does have an attorney that keeps keeps
his eye out in our state oral sex is illegal
it's illegal in the state of florida too I break
the law daily. So, you know, I'm not joking when
I say that SARS, the planets, and Halley's Comet
all has to be in a line to make it work. Wow.
Anything else to follow up with, then? No? That's
awesome. We're wrapping up here, so let me ask
you this. If you were to describe MOCA in three
words, what would you say? Three words. Incredible,
awesome, camaraderie. Why camaraderie? Because
people come to Splash Mocha and they make friends.
Those friendships not only translate inside of
this hotel, but they translate outside of the
hotel as well. So when I said earlier that Splash
Mocha is bigger than all of us. What I meant
by that, if somebody were to tear the roof off
of this hotel and look inside, color doesn't
matter. We're like a big old box of 64 Crayola
crayons. We're a bunch of different colors, but
we're still all the same. And to see people being
engaged, and this makes me emotional because
it's so fantastic. When you see people. truly,
truly engaged. Their phones are put away. I mean,
how many times have you gone into a restaurant,
right? And you see a husband and wife sitting
at the table. And for those listening, I've got
my phone in my hand. And they're sitting here
staring at their phone across from each other.
They're not engaged. They're not living in the
moment. They're not chatting. They're not visiting.
They're not, they're just staring at their phone.
They're not talking and communicating. When you
come into Splash Mocha, Tonight, when you walk
through that restaurant, look around and see
how many people actually have their phones out.
They don't. Their phones are away. They're communicating.
They're engaging with people. They have people
they just met sitting down and having dinner
with them. They're laughing. They're joking.
They're enjoying one another. They are truly
living in the moment. We don't live in the moment
anymore. Because of technology and our stupid
phones, We no longer live in the moment. We're
too busy thinking about what's going to happen
tomorrow, what's going to happen in the next
hour, and what happened yesterday. Everybody
is present right here, and they're making friends
and making connections. They're getting out of
their box, and they are meeting people they never
would have met inside of the little town that
they live in had it not been to Splash Mocha.
I have actually had guests tell me because they
met. a certain couple or a certain guy, they
now have a brand new job. It's changed lives.
It's fantastic. I was in here after the men's
meeting. There was a gentleman who I don't know
what his position was, but his best friend owned
a very large construction company and somebody
else here. I think maybe one of the volunteers
was needing some help in that area, and they
were on the phone saying, okay, well, what's
your qualifications? Where are you at? What can
you do? And when they walked out of there, he
was like, okay, we're going to put an application
in. We're going to get you going here. It was
beautiful. I can say this, personal testimony.
I had no friends, zero male friends until Splash
Mocha. Drew me crazy. I was like, how hard is
it to make friends? Just go do it. Right. And
I have some of the men that I've met here, I
would take a bullet for. In the two or three
years that I've met them and the confidence that
they've helped build in me, the camaraderie,
the brotherhood, right? The Bull Brotherhood
came from Michael C., who I met here. And that
was his concept. I got his permission. to call
this podcast that before i did because that's
his his thing and yeah so when you talk about
that tina i'm just like 100 and another thing
about splash mocha you know as far as the women
go and not just splash mocha but lifestyle as
far as women go the lifestyle is very much driven
by women it's the it's the women that say yes
we're playing or no we're not so it is very woman
forward And I'm not one of those flaming feminists
or anything like that. But as women growing up,
we have always been told, at least I was, I'm
supposed to be ashamed of my sexuality. You're
not supposed to enjoy sex. You got to keep it
quiet. Well, I was 15 when I had sex the first
time. I was 16 with my first threesome. I guess
I was slated for this. Anyway. You know, and
it was I was taught to be ashamed of myself,
of my sexuality. And this even though we cater
to the single guys and the couples, but it's
the women. And I tell I tell couples this all
the time, especially first timers, that it helps
women realize that. We are sexual beings. It's
okay to be proud of who we are. It gives you
an opportunity to be comfortable in your own
skin. You know, I struggle with, everybody says,
but you're so confident. Well, I'm confident,
but I'm hiding behind that. You know, my ego
isn't that high. I don't have a very good outlook
on myself. But then when you see, you're getting
comments and compliments from people who have
For no reason. Nothing to gain. Yeah, they have
nothing to gain. I look at my husband and I'm
like, yeah, but you signed a contract when we
got married. You're supposed to say that stuff.
You know, yeah, thank you. He's like, you look
great. And I'm like, yeah, you told me I looked
great three years ago when I was at 210 pounds,
too. What rose -colored glasses are you looking
through? Yes, I've actually said those words.
You look good at 210, though, too. Thank you.
But it's the, you know. We get compliments from
somebody who owe us nothing. And that helps us.
It is. It gives us a good feeling. We go home
with those words in our head. And it works with
us and helps us realize, well, maybe I'm not
so bad when we go home and look at ourselves
in the mirror. And we are allowed to feel good
about our sexuality. And we are allowed to be
out there about it. You know, men get... Smacked
on the back all the time. Yeah, good job, dude.
Hey, how many women did you lay this weekend?
And while we have to be quiet and demure, but
here. I never drank that tea. Well, that's how
I was raised. Right, me too, though. But doing
this, it's helped bring out, it's helped break
that mold. And it's very good for women to come
to Splash Mocha because... It's a transformation.
Exactly. They actually get to see themselves
through somebody else's eyes, which we don't
get too much of. And if I had somebody ask me,
I have had somebody ask me, if I could choose
a superpower, what would it be? For me to see
how other people see me through their eyes, whether
good or bad. But I would love that superpower
to be able to see what other however everybody
else views me And I bet we if we all had that
superpower we would all be very very shocked
at how highly people think of you Yeah, well
and how we even talked to ourselves like that
was a big thing when we got together is his self
-talk was terrible Yeah, and I was like if I
talk to you the way that you talk to yourself
you punch me in the mouth So I just try to impart
that to women. It's like we're hard on ourselves.
Everybody is, male and female. I think women
are a little bit more so because... But it's
like you wouldn't talk to me like that. I'm 210,
Tina, and I look hot, right? So it's like you're
down on yourself as you were 210, and then someone
else you're telling them beautiful at the same
weight, right? So we... just have to remember
that is like you know you wouldn't talk to your
best friend the way you talk to yourself so it's
changing that and sometimes I'll get in those
valleys too but if we just you know if I get
real bad then he's like you need to put sticky
notes on your mirror again and read them every
day so I have them all over the place just to
remind myself you know what other people and
however people see me so that's really good Oh,
y 'all didn't know he was coming to a self -improvement
seminar, did you? Almost definitely not. Oh,
yeah, we're coming up on that. Yeah, well, I've,
you know, I, this is my job. So I talk to a lot
of people. And, you know, I sit and think about
it a lot. Because, I mean, I eat, live, and breathe
Splash Mocha mostly. So, and I've been in the
lifestyle 20 years. And I've seen a lot. I've
talked to a lot of people. And these are the
things that I've come up with. And I think for
women it's very empowering. And I think you see
these new women that come in through the door
at registration, at main registration, and they're
so quiet. And they don't want to look up. They
look down at the floor and looking at their feet
like, don't make eye contact with me. I'm here,
but I'm not here. And then to see them at the
end of the party, and they're the life of the
party, and they're looking up and catching people's
eye and chatting and smiling and giggling. And
they're allowed to be who they are without outside
society pointing the finger and looking down
on them. You know, it's very, and it's for me,
it's very rewarding because I've got to see that
butterfly get out of her cocoon. Well, this is
a place where a lot of people find their freedom,
you know. We're allowed to be who we are here.
This is where Siren found her freedom. That's
for sure. Yeah. And that's why, you know, we
started the podcast that I have because I want
to hear about people's journey. Like, you know,
I always it would hurt my heart when I was younger
in my 20s and women would say, I just don't enjoy
sex. And I'm like, and I wasn't enjoying it in
my first marriage. But I was like, there's more
to this. There's something more. And I just was
on that journey of like, what else? There's more.
And we would talk to people and it was just,
you know, very, you know, that's a whole other
podcast. Anyways, I could just talk, we could
talk all day. I could go on and on and on because
it's just, like I said, this is bigger than all
of us. When you start peeling back the layers
like an onion, you start realizing that how much
this is, if society could take out a page out
of our playbook, like when we came back from
COVID, you know, we were dealing with the George
Floyd thing. covid politics everybody's feet
everybody had their feelings on their sleeves
and our event in atlanta we moved it from march
to may in 2021 and our event was the first big
event after covid and to watch number one watching
people walk through that hotel door on registration
with their whole faces covered with a mask and
they see a sea of people Hundred people in the
lobby and not one damn mask on. They just ripped
that sucker right off their faces. Big old grins
on their faces. You know, everybody's political
COVID opinions. Everything was on high at that
time. And none of that freaking mattered. Nobody
breathed a word of COVID. Nobody breathed a word
of what was going on outside the walls of that
hotel. They left all that bullshit outside on
the street. And it was freaking amazing. Like
you said, Socrates, it was beautiful just to
see people go back to the way it was before that
stupid virus struck. So, I mean, it was just,
it was phenomenal. That's beautiful, too. And
like you said, the world outside this, this is
like the only place that I feel completely like
everything in my regular life doesn't even exist.
Right, and we call it the Splash Mocha Bubble.
Everybody comes here, they get trapped in the
Splash Mocha bubble because nothing outside the
walls of this hotel freaking matter. The only
thing that matters is the people sitting in front
of them. I love that. Well, we can go all night,
but we can't. So is there anything else that
we didn't talk about you wanted to cover and
people know about Splash? Well, you call it the
Bulls Brotherhood. One thing that we are trying
to do. in the lifestyle is try to get away from,
not that there's anything wrong with the name
of your podcast. We are trying to change some
of the terminology. We don't refer to the guys
as bulls. We don't refer to the guys as BBCs.
When I get couples that say, how many bulls and
BBCs you got coming? I'm like, first of all,
the men of MOCA are not bulls and we don't call
them bulls and BBCs. They're gentlemen, first
and foremost. To me, and please correct me if
I'm wrong, to me, when they say it, and it's
probably the tone that they use when they say
it, it makes me think that they think you're
just a piece of meat. Right. You know, you're
just a side of beef. And I know for a fact all
the men at MOCA are not just that. They're beautiful
souls and beautiful people, and they deserve
it. And also what we say at MOCA. everybody's
a guest. I don't just call the couples and the
single guys. When I refer to whether it's the
guys or the couples or the single females, everybody's
a guest. I don't care what category you fall
into. But I do know some guys call themselves
bulls. Some of them call themselves BBCs, and
that's great. But, you know, we want to let them
know, let everybody know that the men at MOCA
are gentlemen. Well, you got some, a lot of ladies
that we know, they won't use that word at all.
They'll only say black gentleman or gentleman.
And for us, we pick the word because we do know
it's more specifically for the cuckold dynamic.
Right. And as a married bull, and Brian has been
a bull for 30 years, we're just saying from our
perspective of the lifestyle, we're a niche of
a niche, but... We have a unique perspective,
but we have different people on. That's why Brian
insisted on having Cyron, because we wanted a
female perspective. And yeah, there are gentleman
bulls. There are manicorns. There are just single
men. There are cucks that come. There are just
stags that come. There are husbands that are
just curious. So those titles are loose. You
know, you can be fluent with the titles. We're
more concerned about... our perspectives as bulls
and that we're a brotherhood, that we hold each
other to a certain standard. But you're putting...
It's a positive thing. Right. You're making it
positive. Some of the couples I talk to, when
I'm talking to them and they're talking about
the guys being BBCs or bulls, it gives me a negative...
It gives you the ick. It's like a job or it's
like... That's all I see you as. Right. You have
tasks to do. Right. And I want everybody to know
that the guys are more than just a bull or BBC.
That's why I refer to the guys as gentlemen,
because they are more than what's between their
legs. Right. Well, I like what Michael C. says.
Some of us are ABCs. We're average black cocks.
So, you know, you're not even going to get all
BBC all the time. So what was there was something
else for like a tiny one. I forgot. I forgot.
Yeah. So thank you for making that clear. Because,
right. What I do love is no matter what your
dynamic and no matter why you're here. It's about
being human beings. It's about connecting on
a real level, right? And that's what I love about
you. What I love about you, Tina, is that you're
just real. If it's straightening a motherfucker
out, you're just real. If it's showing love and
support, you're just real. And that's what it's
all about. It's about come here, be authentic,
be real, understand you're a part of a community.
Understand the way you treat others and how you
conduct yourself has effect on the person in
front of you, but also on the community, right?
And that's what I love about it. And see, for
me, from a personal standpoint, the way I see
it, if you cut my arm and you cut everybody else's
arm in this room, what color are we all bleeding?
Red. So I don't care what color your skin is.
We're all just people. And if you're acting like
an asshole, then I'm going to treat you like
an asshole. Right. No matter what color. Exactly.
So if anybody wants to learn more about Splash
Mocha, where would they go? If you want to learn
more about Splash Mocha, you go to SplashMocha
.com. All of our events are listed on our website.
All the upcoming dates, all the current dates.
If you open up one of the parties and all the
rooms say sold out, we're sold out. That is not
a marketing ploy. We're 100 % sold out. If all
your room categories say sold out, we're done.
We're sold out. So a lot of people think, well,
why don't you just get the hotel to give you
another block of rooms? When we go into a hotel,
we don't buy a block of rooms, and then we sell
those out, and the hotel gives us another block
of rooms. We don't do that. We go at it. We buy
out the whole facility from the get -go, from
day one, including the parking lot. When I know
there's a lot of parties out there that will
say sold out. And next thing you know, a week
later, there's 20 more rooms available. That's
not how Splash Mocha rolls. And you guys sell
out months in advance. Yeah. So, you know, we're
in August 2025. We sold this event out five months
ago to single men and to couples. It was all
sold out. Houston is already sold out to couples
and single men. We sold that out a month ago.
um new year's is a little slower at selling out
yes there's a bunch of events out there for lifestyle
We don't consider that competition for selling
out a little slower. What we're competing with
is Christmas and family time. Nobody knows what
their family plans are until the first or second
week of December. That's when all my reservations
start amping up. Last year, we sold out two weeks
before the event for New Year's, but it's all
because of Christmas. But it always sells out.
It always sells out. It always sells out. Yeah,
because if I had a dollar for every time a single
man was like, oh, man, I didn't think I was going
to sell out that quick, I'm like, listen. I'd
be rich. I mean, Siren's in the Caribbean right
now being served by a very cute cabana boy. Cranks
with little umbrellas in them. Well, because
we're like on a permanent payment plan. Like
we're always signed up for like the next two.
Like our accountant's like, what's ML ticketing?
I'm like, well, that's like a, what do we say?
It's like a convention that we go to. Like it's
educational. He's like, okay, business. Okay.
Exactly. Yeah. So Tina, thank you so much for
coming on and just letting us learn more about
it and, you know, showing us love and everything.
And so if you guys. There's also a referral program.
Affiliate. Affiliate program. I'm sorry. Thank
you. And so if you guys are interested and you
want to, you know, go through our affiliate,
you heard about it here. Just send us an email.
It's also on the show notes. And yeah. So, Siren,
did you have anything else that you want to talk
about before we get out of here? We missed you,
Brian. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for
all the audience and everything. Thanks for Brian
for, you know, chilling back and letting us do
this because he's the he's the big bull of the
show. And thank you, Tina, for coming on. It's
my pleasure. We really appreciate you. And you
guys come check it out. Come check it out. If
you haven't. Trust me. You know, you are going
to be impressed with the professionalism, with
the people that come here. You're going to be
impressed with the way things are conducted here.
And, you know, for the husbands, that's a big
concern for me. Your wives are going to be well
protected and well respected. And if they're
not, people like Dimitri and Wayne and everything,
they'll straighten you out. So check us out and
we'll see you on the next episode. Luxury untaught