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So the next night, I'm sitting in front of the

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TV doing my homework. Yeah, I would study in

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front of the TV, always have. I'm doing my homework,

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studying for my test, and I turn around and I

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look at him and I said, oh, by the way, I've

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been thinking. Well, now anytime I use that term,

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it gets his attention. Laser -focused attention.

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And he says, yeah, what have you been thinking

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of? I said, well, you know, I had fun having

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sex with other guys when I was in high school

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because... Nobody knew that I did that in high

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school, but I was very quiet about it. And I

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think we need to sign up for the whole program.

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isn't the show for you. But if you're ready to

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step into your masculine edge and embrace a lifestyle

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that demands mastery, welcome to the Brotherhood.

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Welcome to the Bull Brotherhood Podcast, where

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we talk power, pleasure, and the art of dominance

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and ethical non -monogamy. This is not your average

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lifestyle podcast. This is for men who lead,

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men who master, and men who leave a lasting impression.

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If you're here, you're not just curious. You're

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ready to elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives,

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stags, and open -minded explorers, we see you.

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Let's go. Hello, hello, there we go. I am one

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of three parts of your host team siren we are

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missing. The Sigma Male, Brian Morgan, as we

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are live from Splash, and he wasn't able to attend,

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but I'm here with my husband, Socrates. How you

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doing, babe? What's good, y 'all? I'm doing good.

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I'm doing good. And today we have one of... Man,

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she runs this bitch here at Splash Mocha. We

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have Tina on today. Hi, Tina. Hello. And she

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was like, I'm not pulled apart of the brotherhood,

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but she facilitates this... whole event, and

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without her, we would not even have a Splash

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Mocha, so we gotta give it up for Tina, but we

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wanna hear the inside scoop on dealing with all

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of the fun stuff inside and out of Splash. Socrates,

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you gonna be the interviewer today? Yeah. With

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Brian missing? Yep. Yeah, I'm not as smooth,

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so I can't be like, so yeah, Tina, what's going

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on? What you got? No, but... Yeah, Brian, have

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your panties wet before we even, two minutes

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in, like... Just with that voice. Yep, yep. Yeah,

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he's smooth. So, yeah, we love this place. I

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mean, I remember the first time coming here,

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I didn't have a lot of great experience, especially

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with Black men in the lifestyle, in group settings.

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And so I was really apprehensive. My wife didn't

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know what to expect. But one thing I really loved

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is the vetting. They took a lot of time to vet

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the gentleman and everybody, I think. And I was

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just like, wow, I didn't know it can be this

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way. Just everybody respectful. Everybody just

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mingling and getting along with each other. Not

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to say there isn't problems, but... It just works

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smoothly. We're people, right? It just works

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smoothly. So, you know, so we're just going to

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kind of just talk about, get to know Tina a little

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bit and see where it goes and really get into,

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you know, how Splash Market works and what we

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love about it. But Tina, talk to us a little

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bit about, you know, just getting started in

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the lifestyle. Like, you know. how long you've

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been in the lifestyle, what got you started,

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those kind of things. Yeah, because you and your

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husband have been in it for a minute now. So

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my husband and I have been in it for just over

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20 years. It was completely my idea. You whore.

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I know, I know. But yeah, it was completely my

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idea. We went to a friend's house. Coincidentally,

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that day, earlier that day, it was the day after

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Christmas, I had actually torn my ACL riding

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four -wheelers. And we went, we had plans to

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go out with friends. We went out with friends

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and we went back to their house and we were playing

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a game called Asshole. Don't ask me how to play

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it. I don't have a clue. And there was a rule.

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We got playing and there was a rule that if a

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jack of any kind was thrown down, the girls had

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to play topless. So whoever won the last round

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became president. And so next thing I know, we're

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topless. And then, you know, there's, I don't

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know, there's probably two, four, six, eight

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couple, eight total people. So next thing I know,

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one thing leads to another. The other girls start

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playing together and they bring me in. Now, I

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understand Jeb and I weren't in the lifestyle,

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really never had heard anything about it. And

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we... Unfortunately, I was played with, but I

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couldn't do any playing because my knee was between

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the size of a volleyball and basketball at that

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point by that end of the night. Body positivity,

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guys. Even if you got a big old injury, you're

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still going to get your pussy ate. It's going

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to be great. Work around it. You know, we did

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that the next week. After work, my husband and

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I, I was going to school. We went out to dinner.

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Luckily, I was driving because he would have

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wrecked the truck. I'm driving home, and I said,

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I went, I've been thinking. And he's like, what

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have you been thinking? I said, well, you know,

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over at our friend's house this weekend, you

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know, I had the girl -girl experience. I think

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I want to experience a little bit more. So, and

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he was like. What? That's awesome. You know,

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all men want to see two girls together. They

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think that is, you know, that's the best thing

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ever. I still do. So we go home. I sit down in

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front of the TV, and I'm working on college algebra,

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and he's got the laptop in his lap, and he's

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doing research. So the next night, I'm sitting

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in front of the TV doing my homework. Yeah, I

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would study in front of the TV, always have.

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I'm doing my homework, studying for my test.

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And I turn around and I look at him and I said,

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oh, by the way, I've been thinking. Well, now

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anytime I use that term, it gets his attention.

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Laser -focused attention. And he says, yeah,

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what have you been thinking of? I said, well,

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you know, I had fun having sex with other guys

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when I was in high school. Nobody knew that I

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did that in high school, but I was, you know,

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very quiet about it. And I think we need to sign

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up for the whole program. And that was it. That

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was the end of it. And he was like, so I get

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to play too? I said, yeah. So it's kind of, you

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know, we started out with rules and things. And

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then as you stay in it longer, we started to

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evolve. And so our rules turned into whatever.

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The other couples rules were so we really didn't

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have any rules We just kind of went with whatever

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they chose if they chose to be in the same room

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Then we were in the same room if they were okay

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with being separate rooms We were okay with separate

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rooms and it was just a couple's thing. You know,

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we didn't know any better There was one lifestyle

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website that we were on. It's no longer in existence.

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And we went there. Good God. There was meet and

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greets and house parties. And every weekend you

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could get out and go be around people. And that's

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what we started doing. And, you know, we never

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even gave it the single guy thing a thought,

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you know, because you're just learning. You just

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learn. And, again, it's evolution. Now it's just

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like mostly we're just kind of, both of us are

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kind of open. We come to these, we're working

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the parties, and he's like, hey, I got a date,

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and he tells me who, and I'm like, have fun.

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He comes back. I said, you have fun? Yep. You

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make sure she had fun? He says, yep. That's the

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end of conversation. And we're like, all right,

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cool. High five. Yep. That's the extent, but

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that's where we started. So we've got just over

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20 years in the lifestyle now. That's awesome.

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Wonderful. And I work this, and by the way, this

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is my full -time job. This isn't like something

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I do on the evening after my day job. This is

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my day job. I work for Mocha full -time. Nice.

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Best job ever. And yes, I do have the world's

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largest little black book. Yes, you do. How many

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J's do you have in there? You'd be surprised.

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I don't even exercise that little black book,

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but I could. I stay so busy. So how did you transition

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from it being a thing that you guys did to, like,

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a job? Like, tell us about meeting the other

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owners. So Wayne and Missy are the owners of

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Splash Mocha. And they always have been since

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day one. So we met them at a house party. Oh,

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God. I guess it's been 13 or 14 years ago. And

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we just kind of. you know, hit it off, which

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you do when you're on your knees in front of

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some guy you just met. He's like, you can be

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my friend now. So, you know, we kind of hit it

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off there. And then we just started hanging out.

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And here and there, it wasn't a whole lot. And

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next thing I know, there was a club in Coco because

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I'm originally from, my husband and I are originally

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from Florida. They were living in Florida. And

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they invited it to this new lifestyle club. And

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we went to. We went to the club, and we started

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hanging out a lot. And they had been trying to

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get us to go to an event they helped with called

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Splash Takeovers, which that was well before

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mocha was ever a little star thought in their

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brains. A little twinkle in the brain thought.

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Yeah, a little twinkle. So they've been trying

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to get us to go to Splash Takeovers. We were

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always busy. I was scared to death to go to something

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that huge. And next thing we know, it was on

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a Tuesday, Wednesday evening after work. Wayne

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calls and says, hey, we just bought Splash Takeovers.

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And coincidentally, it was at this very hotel

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and we just bought it from Dixie. And we would

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we would we got a couple of rooms available.

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We'd love for you to come and be our guest. No

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charge. So Jeb and I said, well, we can't this.

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We can't just. come for all three days, we can't

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get off work that quick. We'll be down there

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as soon as we get off work on Friday. So we drove

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down here. Jeb and I pretty much hid in our room

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for the most part. And we'd come down and kind

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of mix and mingle a little bit. But just like

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anybody else knew, we were a deer caught in headlights,

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right? So, you know, we're trying to hang out

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with Wayne and Missy, but we know that they're

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busy. So Sunday, We get up, we check out, we

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put our luggage in the car, and we come back

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here to look for Wayne and Missy to say goodbye

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and thank them for giving us a room and, you

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know, tell them we enjoyed ourselves. And I guess

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it was about 9 o 'clock in the morning, and they're

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tearing down. So we, my husband and I, we don't

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just wait for, be asked, like so many people

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do, hey, do you mind helping us out? That's not

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what we do. We just start digging in. Just jump

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in. We just jump in, start picking shit up, start.

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helping them load it up and we unfortunately

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we can only help until noon because my husband's

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mom had a big family dinner planned at four o

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'clock that day so we had to haul ass at noon

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to get back to Brevard County which was a three

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and a half hour drive so we can get ready for

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dinner with the family. So we helped at noon,

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and next thing I know, afterwards, Wayne and

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Missy, the next time we hang out with them, they

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said, hey, we'd really like it if you'd come

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help us at Splash Takeovers the next year, help

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at registration and stuff. And I'm like, sure,

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okay. So at that time, they stored all their

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gear in a storage unit. And he would rent moving

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trucks, two moving trucks. We unloaded it out

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of the storage unit, loaded it into a moving

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truck, drove it. drove them three and a half

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hours to Fort Lauderdale unload it out of the

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moving truck set it up and then at the end of

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the party load it all back up on the moving trucks

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drive it back to Brevard County unload it into

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the storage unit because we had to have the trucks

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back that night Lots of thoughts, lots of work.

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Sounds like it. Yeah. So then the next year I

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was helping him. I'm tired just listening. And

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we, yeah, me too. And we helped him again. And

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then all of a sudden their daughter was graduated

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high school. She was starting her first year

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in college. And they wanted to help her move

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in. And they had that whole transition. So they

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chose a hotel in Melbourne. And that's where

00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:42.440
Splash Mocha was born. They did Splash Mocha

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that August in an 80 -room hotel. I think it

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was 80. Might be a little more. Could be a little

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less. In Melbourne, Florida. And the next month

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they had it at the same hotel because they needed

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something a little bit smaller. They needed to

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be there for her first day, which they left to

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go to Deland to get her moved into the dorm in

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the middle of the party. So I'm not I'm not officially

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working for him. I'm just some dumb friend who's

00:15:10.490 --> 00:15:12.509
agreed to help them with this event. Because

00:15:12.509 --> 00:15:17.169
my husband and I used to he used to be a fire

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chief in our community, volunteer fire chief.

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And we put on one of Brevard County's largest

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Christmas parades and barbecues. So we know what

00:15:24.549 --> 00:15:28.269
it's like to do hard work. And they left kind

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of left us kind of in kind of sort of unofficially

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kind of. In charge, but not really. Just keep

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an eye on things. Call if you need anything.

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The next year, we had it there. And the year

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after that, we were back down here. And the first

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year, they were a little sketchy on it. And Wayne

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told Missy, let's try it again. Let's try Splash

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Mocha again. And from that, the next year, it

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kind of took off. The popularity was amazing.

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And we moved it to this facility here. And they

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sold it out that first year. It was definitely

00:16:03.230 --> 00:16:08.149
quite interesting. And you could definitely tell

00:16:08.149 --> 00:16:10.090
from the very beginning that it was going to

00:16:10.090 --> 00:16:12.389
be something special. Yeah. And what was the

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conversation like, though? Like, how did you

00:16:14.149 --> 00:16:17.370
guys come up with like this? Hey, there is this

00:16:17.370 --> 00:16:22.889
need for an event that caters to single men.

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Right. particularly Black men and people who

00:16:26.230 --> 00:16:28.590
want to interact with them? What was that conversation

00:16:28.590 --> 00:16:30.549
like? You didn't just wake up and be like, oh,

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I should just have an event for single Black

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men. I think that would be good. What was that

00:16:35.129 --> 00:16:36.730
conversation like? At Splash Takeovers, they

00:16:36.730 --> 00:16:39.009
had what they called the chocolate room. So they

00:16:39.009 --> 00:16:40.850
had a playroom that was the chocolate room. And

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there's several gentlemen here that were participating

00:16:43.990 --> 00:16:46.870
in the chocolate room at Splash Takeovers. And

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the popularity of that room was unparalleled

00:16:50.610 --> 00:16:55.750
to the rest. And, you know, they took it from

00:16:55.750 --> 00:16:59.129
there. They saw a need and they were still going

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to other lifestyle events. And they were noticing

00:17:01.909 --> 00:17:05.990
that that the guys were kind of getting the shaft

00:17:05.990 --> 00:17:11.890
per se. No pun intended on that one. Please transfer

00:17:11.890 --> 00:17:15.589
that to me. No pun intended, but they weren't

00:17:15.589 --> 00:17:17.990
getting a fair shake in the lifestyle. And even

00:17:17.990 --> 00:17:20.849
now, they still pay the maximum amount, while

00:17:20.849 --> 00:17:24.349
single girls, no dinging the single girls, but

00:17:24.349 --> 00:17:26.690
they get in for free or next to nothing, and

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then they're charging the couples a very minimal

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amount. And the single guys are $100, $150, $200.

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I hate that. There's no party without a dick.

00:17:35.849 --> 00:17:39.089
Exactly. I'm like, let the single guys in for

00:17:39.089 --> 00:17:43.650
free. Fire ruled the world. So that's where the

00:17:43.650 --> 00:17:48.769
concept came from, is they saw how popular that

00:17:48.769 --> 00:17:51.849
room was, and so they started doing a little

00:17:51.849 --> 00:17:56.670
research, and then they had Splash Takeovers,

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and then the name Splash Mocha came up because

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it was going to be catered to couples, and specifically

00:18:02.950 --> 00:18:05.349
single black men, but we don't discriminate.

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It's open to all men as long as they go through

00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:10.240
the vetting process and they're a good fit. They

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may have to work a little harder than you or

00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:17.059
Socrates or you or you. And that's what I tell

00:18:17.059 --> 00:18:18.920
them when they call. I'm like, hey, we don't

00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:21.019
discriminate. You're more than welcome, but you're

00:18:21.019 --> 00:18:25.099
not going to be top of the menu. And those are

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the words I use. You may have to work a little

00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.640
bit harder, but don't be offended. You can't

00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.720
be offended if a woman says, hey, you're just

00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.289
not my type. Because some of them are specific

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to single black men. You just say, thank you

00:18:41.710 --> 00:18:44.309
very much. I enjoyed talking to you. Move on

00:18:44.309 --> 00:18:46.250
to the next couple because that woman might say

00:18:46.250 --> 00:18:49.569
yes. So that's how we handle it. And we got a

00:18:49.569 --> 00:18:52.569
couple of several guys that come. They can't

00:18:52.569 --> 00:18:54.490
come to every party, but they have a great time.

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And they get laid just as much as the next guy.

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So, you know, it is open. But they all still

00:19:01.430 --> 00:19:02.990
have to go through all the same vetting process,

00:19:03.130 --> 00:19:05.519
everybody else. If they don't make that cut,

00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:07.480
we don't have a problem saying, I am so sorry,

00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:08.839
but you're not going to be a good fit for the

00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:12.039
event. One of the things that I love, like I

00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:15.519
said, when I first came here, I had some really

00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.259
bad experiences in the lifestyle when it comes

00:19:18.259 --> 00:19:21.240
to going to events where they cater to single

00:19:21.240 --> 00:19:25.619
black men. And I'll just say this, coming from

00:19:25.619 --> 00:19:29.420
California and the community I am, this is not

00:19:29.420 --> 00:19:31.660
about all black men, what I'm about to say. This

00:19:31.660 --> 00:19:35.359
is not most black men. And this is not the lifestyle

00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:38.940
in general. This is my experience in Los Angeles.

00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:42.279
I come from gang culture. That's another thing

00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:44.259
I'm going to add. So when I say this, I'm going

00:19:44.259 --> 00:19:46.619
to make that clear. But I kind of ran into that

00:19:46.619 --> 00:19:48.799
it ain't no fun unless the homies can have some

00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:51.740
type of shit. You know, like that I'm going to

00:19:51.740 --> 00:19:54.380
run a train on a bitch type of thing. And I was

00:19:54.380 --> 00:19:56.039
really concerned about that because I wasn't

00:19:56.039 --> 00:19:57.599
having that with my wife. You ain't treating

00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:00.500
my wife that way. But what I was really impressed

00:20:00.500 --> 00:20:02.599
with, what I think is incredible, is the bedding.

00:20:03.049 --> 00:20:06.769
The gentlemen here are professionals. You get

00:20:06.769 --> 00:20:12.849
people that are highest security clearance people

00:20:12.849 --> 00:20:17.650
in any kind of industry, military, businessmen,

00:20:17.789 --> 00:20:21.369
every type of gentleman, but they're respectful.

00:20:21.970 --> 00:20:25.309
They know how to approach your wife. Us being

00:20:25.309 --> 00:20:28.430
stag, vixen couple, I'm concerned about how you

00:20:28.430 --> 00:20:30.710
approach me. How do you approach us as a couple?

00:20:30.930 --> 00:20:33.750
How do you approach my wife? My question to you,

00:20:33.789 --> 00:20:36.490
Tina, is how did you guys get the vetting down

00:20:36.490 --> 00:20:40.089
so well? I know, you know, people slip through

00:20:40.089 --> 00:20:43.690
the cracks, right? But how did you guys get the

00:20:43.690 --> 00:20:46.750
vetting down so well? So, you know, they have

00:20:46.750 --> 00:20:49.490
to call me first. They have to talk to me. And

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I don't mean to toot my own horn, but I'm a pretty

00:20:52.230 --> 00:20:55.130
good judge of character. I can read people pretty

00:20:55.130 --> 00:20:58.759
damn quick, even over the phone. And, yeah, I

00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:02.380
mean, I'm not perfect. And, yes, some guys know

00:21:02.380 --> 00:21:04.539
how to walk the walk and talk the talk and say

00:21:04.539 --> 00:21:08.619
the right words to get through. And then eventually

00:21:08.619 --> 00:21:12.019
they will catch themselves because they won't

00:21:12.019 --> 00:21:14.359
act right and will weed themselves out. So, you

00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:16.700
know, the old saying, trash just took itself

00:21:16.700 --> 00:21:20.259
out. But they do have to talk to me. They have

00:21:20.259 --> 00:21:23.539
to get through me first. And then I will send

00:21:23.539 --> 00:21:25.980
a text to Dimitri. That gentleman is in that

00:21:25.980 --> 00:21:28.180
text, and it's an introduction, and then they

00:21:28.180 --> 00:21:31.319
get to talk to Dimitri. Now, I'm pretty tough,

00:21:31.460 --> 00:21:34.180
but Dimitri is even tougher. So out of every

00:21:34.180 --> 00:21:39.079
10 guys that call, two make it through. So, you

00:21:39.079 --> 00:21:42.579
know, he is all about you've got to respect yourself

00:21:42.579 --> 00:21:47.079
first. And if you start calling him, you talk

00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:50.059
to me as a professional, and you're on the up

00:21:50.059 --> 00:21:51.680
and up, and you get Dimitri on the phone, and

00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:54.309
you start talking like... you know, your brother's

00:21:54.309 --> 00:21:57.670
in the hood, he shuts them down. He's like, you

00:21:57.670 --> 00:21:59.789
know, you don't know me. You don't talk to me

00:21:59.789 --> 00:22:01.549
like that. You're not respecting yourself. You're

00:22:01.549 --> 00:22:03.549
not respecting me. And you're not going to go

00:22:03.549 --> 00:22:05.589
to Splash Mocha talking to the other guys like

00:22:05.589 --> 00:22:10.259
that because that's not what we're about. So

00:22:10.259 --> 00:22:12.619
he's pretty tough. He's a pretty tough nut to

00:22:12.619 --> 00:22:15.500
get through. And between the two of us, I think

00:22:15.500 --> 00:22:18.599
we do a pretty good job. I might send a guy to

00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:20.900
him in a text, but on the outside, I'm sending

00:22:20.900 --> 00:22:23.559
him another text going, hey, I'm not too sure

00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:27.000
about this guy. It was like pulling a saber -toothed

00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:31.619
tiger's... Tooth out to get him to answer my

00:22:31.619 --> 00:22:34.779
questions and get him to talk and I tell him

00:22:34.779 --> 00:22:36.519
I don't know if he was just shy because he's

00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:39.660
talking to a female and He's a little uncomfortable

00:22:39.660 --> 00:22:43.619
or he might be just a little too young And just

00:22:43.619 --> 00:22:46.759
doesn't know how to communicate and so Dimitri

00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:49.920
will feel him out and sometimes They're they

00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:52.680
were just nervous to talk to me And he's like,

00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:54.099
nope, they're a good guy. And then there's other

00:22:54.099 --> 00:22:57.279
times he's like, yeah, he has the social skills

00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:01.119
of a gnat. Or when we talk to him about it on

00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:04.859
his podcast with us. He was like, yeah, and if

00:23:04.859 --> 00:23:08.400
they send me a dick pic, I'm like, meh. Here,

00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:12.539
I got a big dick. Let me in. Yeah, I get those

00:23:12.539 --> 00:23:16.220
pictures, too. I have had, over the years, I'll

00:23:16.220 --> 00:23:18.259
just open an email, and it's a dick pic, and

00:23:18.259 --> 00:23:21.599
it's like, would I make the cut to come to Splash

00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:25.779
Mocha? And they don't include the name. They

00:23:25.779 --> 00:23:27.700
don't include a phone number, and it's just the

00:23:27.700 --> 00:23:29.960
dick pic, and that's all it is. I say hello.

00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:36.299
If you can't ask me general questions, I do not

00:23:36.299 --> 00:23:40.079
appreciate random unsolicited dick pics to come

00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.259
through my email. I'm a professional person.

00:23:42.420 --> 00:23:45.180
I am so sorry. I do not feel like you're a good

00:23:45.180 --> 00:23:47.039
fit for the event. If this is how you're going

00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:49.980
to present yourself right out of the gate, I

00:23:49.980 --> 00:23:51.960
wish you lots of luck in your lifestyle endeavors.

00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:55.519
Sincerely, Tina. And then they'll try to, oh,

00:23:55.660 --> 00:23:57.839
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I don't answer the questions

00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:00.950
after that. I don't answer any more emails after

00:24:00.950 --> 00:24:03.269
that. You will go on the wall of shame at Splash

00:24:03.269 --> 00:24:05.950
Mocha corporate with your dick pic up on the

00:24:05.950 --> 00:24:11.049
wall and we throw darts at it. I try to deflate

00:24:11.049 --> 00:24:17.630
that thing like a voodoo doll. May you have ED

00:24:17.630 --> 00:24:20.190
for the rest of your life. Because you don't

00:24:20.190 --> 00:24:23.190
know how to handle yourself anyway. But I've

00:24:23.190 --> 00:24:25.490
had single females do the same thing. Send me

00:24:25.490 --> 00:24:27.569
a naked photo of themselves. I can see their

00:24:27.569 --> 00:24:30.369
tonsils from between their legs. I'm like, they

00:24:30.369 --> 00:24:32.470
get the same goddamn email. I don't want to see

00:24:32.470 --> 00:24:38.109
that at 8 .16 in the morning. Y 'all should see

00:24:38.109 --> 00:24:41.869
her, babe. There's not enough coffee or even

00:24:41.869 --> 00:24:49.160
Irish coffee for that. Oh, my goodness. Maybe

00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.779
there's some sort of drug that will erase my

00:24:51.779 --> 00:24:55.299
memory. I'm not to remember what I saw. But sometimes

00:24:55.299 --> 00:24:57.700
there's still wax on it from when they went to

00:24:57.700 --> 00:25:00.599
the wax. I had Drusillian wax from the day before.

00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.380
I'm not lying. That's a true story. Are you serious?

00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:06.660
I am dead serious. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

00:25:07.299 --> 00:25:10.099
Another thing they do that really impressed me,

00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:15.759
and I'll never forget. Tina, so it's not just

00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.799
a place where you come and fuck everywhere. There

00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:21.700
are a lot of classes here. There are a lot of

00:25:21.700 --> 00:25:26.079
things that you can come to to ask questions,

00:25:26.099 --> 00:25:30.000
for them to educate you on how it works. And

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:32.680
one of the things that is required, it's mandatory,

00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:37.079
is that all single men go to a meeting. And at

00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:40.759
that meeting, they'll go over. some of the fundamentals,

00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:44.420
and then they let the vets get up and put you

00:25:44.420 --> 00:25:48.660
on game. And I love that. So talk to us about

00:25:48.660 --> 00:25:50.980
that. What sparked that? Is that something you

00:25:50.980 --> 00:25:53.539
first thought of in the beginning? And you said,

00:25:53.579 --> 00:25:57.140
we got to let these men know how to conduct themselves

00:25:57.140 --> 00:26:02.380
and how to approach and how to, you know, from

00:26:02.380 --> 00:26:05.559
the registration to leaving here. Is that something

00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:08.519
that came up in the beginning? Yes, it's been

00:26:08.519 --> 00:26:11.079
a part of Splash Mocha since day one. What it

00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:15.019
does, it helps the guys be accountable to each

00:26:15.019 --> 00:26:18.259
other. It creates a culture and brotherhood amongst

00:26:18.259 --> 00:26:23.059
the men. They're our first line of defense. We

00:26:23.059 --> 00:26:25.339
can't get the couple's undivided attention, but

00:26:25.339 --> 00:26:28.920
we have the guys' undivided attention. And it's

00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:32.640
a way for us to separate Splash Mocha from the

00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:36.349
rest of the parties. And it works. And a lot

00:26:36.349 --> 00:26:38.109
of the guys don't like coming because they've

00:26:38.109 --> 00:26:41.549
been coming since. They've come to 15 parties,

00:26:41.670 --> 00:26:45.410
and it's the same, same, same. But we still make

00:26:45.410 --> 00:26:47.430
it a requirement. I don't care if you've been

00:26:47.430 --> 00:26:49.869
to all of them. You still need to go. It might

00:26:49.869 --> 00:26:52.710
be the same information, but we also throw in

00:26:52.710 --> 00:26:55.670
more information that you've not heard of. And

00:26:55.670 --> 00:26:58.450
we try to make them aware of things that are

00:26:58.450 --> 00:27:01.569
going on because we do protect the single guys

00:27:01.569 --> 00:27:04.569
at our event. After all, it's the couples are

00:27:04.569 --> 00:27:07.470
coming for the single men. And it's an hour of

00:27:07.470 --> 00:27:10.210
their time. Not even that. This time we wrapped

00:27:10.210 --> 00:27:14.130
the meeting up in 35 minutes. So we get out as

00:27:14.130 --> 00:27:18.150
much information as we can. And they even get

00:27:18.150 --> 00:27:21.369
a chance. We open the floor up for their peers.

00:27:22.190 --> 00:27:24.490
to talk to each other and to throw out their

00:27:24.490 --> 00:27:28.990
ideas and to talk. And so they're just not hearing

00:27:28.990 --> 00:27:31.349
it from us. Don't do this. Clean up the playrooms.

00:27:31.410 --> 00:27:32.970
Don't throw your condoms on the floor. Put them

00:27:32.970 --> 00:27:34.990
in the trash can, blah, blah, blah. Clean up

00:27:34.990 --> 00:27:37.430
after you get done having sex. They're hearing

00:27:37.430 --> 00:27:41.450
from their peers, from the guys that are witnessing

00:27:41.450 --> 00:27:44.450
what's going on in another guest room, in the

00:27:44.450 --> 00:27:47.509
playrooms. So you've really got that. So we do

00:27:47.509 --> 00:27:51.109
turn the floor over so they can. Go, okay, guys,

00:27:51.269 --> 00:27:53.670
you guys got to start doing this. And they kind

00:27:53.670 --> 00:27:56.890
of take heed a little bit better from the guys

00:27:56.890 --> 00:28:00.029
randomly talking about this is what I've seen

00:28:00.029 --> 00:28:03.970
and everything. It does create a great camaraderie

00:28:03.970 --> 00:28:07.450
amongst the guys, and they hold each other accountable.

00:28:08.089 --> 00:28:10.569
And what we say in the meeting, they'll be in

00:28:10.569 --> 00:28:14.109
the playroom. And one guy will tap his friend

00:28:14.109 --> 00:28:16.029
on the shoulder and say, here, you forgot to

00:28:16.029 --> 00:28:18.309
put down a clean sheet you just got done playing

00:28:18.309 --> 00:28:21.349
on. Right. Or, hey, you just dropped your used

00:28:21.349 --> 00:28:23.109
condom on the floor. You may want to pick it

00:28:23.109 --> 00:28:25.670
up. So that's what it's for. And then the guys

00:28:25.670 --> 00:28:27.970
will, as they play with couples in the playrooms

00:28:27.970 --> 00:28:32.829
and they get up from playing, the guys will politely

00:28:32.829 --> 00:28:35.569
ask the couples, hey, would you mind helping

00:28:35.569 --> 00:28:37.990
me throw this clean sheet on the... Exactly.

00:28:38.049 --> 00:28:41.509
On the bed. So now it's trickling down into the

00:28:41.509 --> 00:28:45.490
couples to help keep after. Put a clean sheet

00:28:45.490 --> 00:28:47.410
on the bed after you're done playing so then

00:28:47.410 --> 00:28:49.430
the next person can come up because you just

00:28:49.430 --> 00:28:51.529
laid down on a clean sheet. Now some of the playrooms

00:28:51.529 --> 00:28:53.390
that by the end of the night get so busy that

00:28:53.390 --> 00:28:56.190
they're not even worried about playing on sheets.

00:28:56.369 --> 00:28:58.869
They're just playing on the mattress. It's like,

00:28:59.029 --> 00:29:02.730
hey, I've got to handle that. It matters a lot

00:29:02.730 --> 00:29:07.440
of money or that's not going to be fun. But,

00:29:07.460 --> 00:29:10.880
yeah, they they it's it's a it's a positive thing.

00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:13.779
And we try to keep it upbeat and positive. And

00:29:13.779 --> 00:29:18.019
and I think we will continue doing the meeting

00:29:18.019 --> 00:29:19.859
because it's a way for us to get really good

00:29:19.859 --> 00:29:23.579
information out there. And look, gentlemen, Tina

00:29:23.579 --> 00:29:26.359
will lay down the fucking law. So don't get it

00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.880
twisted. It's very positive. But she will straighten

00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.619
anything out. Dimitri gets up there and we have

00:29:32.619 --> 00:29:34.619
some other gentlemen that we know, Mr. Mocha.

00:29:35.439 --> 00:29:37.319
He'll get up there and straighten you out. And

00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:39.599
if you've seen these guys, you would definitely

00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.180
not want to challenge them about any of it. The

00:29:42.180 --> 00:29:44.339
Lion is another one that will do it, too. Yep.

00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:47.619
One of the times, I think it was probably our

00:29:47.619 --> 00:29:50.539
fifth or sixth time we came, Tina came to me

00:29:50.539 --> 00:29:54.650
and said, Socrates. You're married. Why you keep

00:29:54.650 --> 00:29:58.130
coming? You don't have to come. And I'm like,

00:29:58.230 --> 00:30:00.890
you don't understand. They put me up on so much

00:30:00.890 --> 00:30:04.309
game. I learned so much every single time. One

00:30:04.309 --> 00:30:06.670
of my favorite things that they came up with,

00:30:06.710 --> 00:30:08.430
I think it was here the first time I heard it,

00:30:08.470 --> 00:30:13.589
was Shot Clock. And for those that don't know,

00:30:13.809 --> 00:30:17.200
you know, when you're in a group setting. Or,

00:30:17.500 --> 00:30:19.480
you know, whether you're playing or just out

00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:23.059
in, you know, the bar area or talking to someone.

00:30:23.980 --> 00:30:26.880
Sometimes, you know, let's say you're just meeting

00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.339
someone and you're a male and you're going up

00:30:29.339 --> 00:30:32.420
to a couple and you're talking. You're not reading

00:30:32.420 --> 00:30:34.799
the body language. You're not reading the room.

00:30:35.019 --> 00:30:37.940
You're not looking at how they're interacting.

00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:39.740
You're just talking and talking and talking.

00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:42.839
and there's another guy there he's looking he's

00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.400
been checking that woman out for a long time

00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:49.140
and he wants to go and so a lot of the gentlemen

00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:50.980
were complaining hey man you guys are up there

00:30:50.980 --> 00:30:53.279
talking to this girl for an hour and she was

00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:55.779
you know you know her her body was facing the

00:30:55.779 --> 00:30:58.440
other way earning away from you and she just

00:30:58.859 --> 00:31:01.380
You know, every time another guy comes along,

00:31:01.460 --> 00:31:03.700
she's like, hey, how you doing? What's up? You

00:31:03.700 --> 00:31:06.339
know, you know, and so trying to get this gay

00:31:06.339 --> 00:31:09.720
pie. Right, right. Come get me, you know. And

00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:13.500
so we came up with Shot Clock, which means if

00:31:13.500 --> 00:31:15.940
you see another brother out there talking to

00:31:15.940 --> 00:31:20.019
a couple and it's been a while, the guy might

00:31:20.019 --> 00:31:21.819
come and say, hey, man, whispering, hey, Shot

00:31:21.819 --> 00:31:24.180
Clock, brother. That lets you know, hey, man,

00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:26.299
you know, you got to get, you know. Wrap it up.

00:31:26.299 --> 00:31:29.279
Wrap it up. Start your closing argument on why

00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:34.779
you should be selected, right? And I just love

00:31:34.779 --> 00:31:37.279
that because, you know, I've got advice from,

00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:39.259
hey, man, you know, you had a really passionate

00:31:39.259 --> 00:31:41.319
session and you're ready to go back down and

00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.339
put some lemon juice on it, you know, so you

00:31:43.339 --> 00:31:45.440
can really get it. I've heard, you know, just

00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:50.099
great advice. And I love that because. Self -policing

00:31:50.099 --> 00:31:53.319
is the best. When you have your peers, like Tina

00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.720
said, telling you. When you have so many brothers

00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.980
here. good -looking brother, 6 '2", 6 '5", 6

00:31:59.980 --> 00:32:04.380
'8", 250 pounds. He knows how. He's smooth. And

00:32:04.380 --> 00:32:06.700
that guy's saying, hey, some of these are the

00:32:06.700 --> 00:32:09.500
things that we do to make the experience better

00:32:09.500 --> 00:32:12.000
for everyone. And you have all these other brothers

00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.079
saying, hey, man, you keep doing this stuff and

00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.859
messing up my opportunity here at Splash, some

00:32:16.859 --> 00:32:19.259
of the best places I've ever been, I'm going

00:32:19.259 --> 00:32:22.480
to talk to you. And that kind of self -policing

00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:26.809
really makes it to where I feel... better here

00:32:26.809 --> 00:32:30.529
than any other place to let my wife do her thing.

00:32:31.670 --> 00:32:33.910
Before we get on to some of the other questions,

00:32:34.029 --> 00:32:36.730
we have audience members here. Does anybody want

00:32:36.730 --> 00:32:39.470
to come up and ask questions about Splash or

00:32:39.470 --> 00:32:43.089
anything in particular? No? I need you to go

00:32:43.089 --> 00:32:45.069
to the single men meeting and smile at them and

00:32:45.069 --> 00:32:49.349
let them know that it's okay. Because still seven

00:32:49.349 --> 00:32:52.349
splashes in, I'm like, okay, maybe smile at them

00:32:52.349 --> 00:32:54.630
a little bit so they're not like, oh, can't go

00:32:54.630 --> 00:32:58.049
up to her. I have a very special memory, though,

00:32:58.109 --> 00:33:00.470
from the men's meeting. Was that our first one?

00:33:03.250 --> 00:33:07.289
I don't know if that was a men's meeting or a

00:33:07.289 --> 00:33:10.269
different seminar. Oh. You're talking about how

00:33:10.269 --> 00:33:14.069
you got your name? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if

00:33:14.069 --> 00:33:15.309
that was a men's meeting. I think that was a

00:33:15.309 --> 00:33:17.029
seminar. Oh, because there was couples in there.

00:33:17.170 --> 00:33:19.670
Yeah. Yeah, but Pup Pulse can still come to the

00:33:19.670 --> 00:33:23.930
men's meeting. It's just me. Okay, what was his

00:33:23.930 --> 00:33:25.670
seminar on then? He was, like, going to all the

00:33:25.670 --> 00:33:28.670
classes. Yeah, I was. Okay, well, I feel less

00:33:28.670 --> 00:33:30.630
guilty than if it was in the men's meeting because

00:33:30.630 --> 00:33:35.650
I had a single man occupied two ballrooms away

00:33:35.650 --> 00:33:40.109
for that meeting, and apparently I was being

00:33:40.109 --> 00:33:43.720
very loud. and Michael C. was running that meeting,

00:33:43.819 --> 00:33:46.079
and he was like— Oh, he was doing his—he was

00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.000
probably doing his seminar while he was in it

00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:51.079
because Michael C. doesn't run the meetings.

00:33:51.539 --> 00:33:53.940
Dimitri and I do. Yeah. So he—I mean, unless

00:33:53.940 --> 00:33:56.279
he was in there making comments, so he had to

00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.680
be doing his seminar. Well, if there was couples

00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:00.160
in there. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. I

00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:01.920
don't feel so bad now because all these years

00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.220
I'm like, oh, I took this single guy away from

00:34:04.220 --> 00:34:08.000
the important meeting. And so I was being really

00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.760
loud, I guess. And then Michael C. was like—

00:34:10.989 --> 00:34:13.769
What did he say, babe? He said... Well, so we

00:34:13.769 --> 00:34:19.409
were... Yeah, we were in one of the rooms at

00:34:19.409 --> 00:34:22.829
that time where, you know, Michael C. was giving

00:34:22.829 --> 00:34:27.190
his seminar. And right next door, there's...

00:34:27.190 --> 00:34:29.369
No, it was two ballrooms away. No. It was two

00:34:29.369 --> 00:34:31.110
ball... I was two ballrooms away. Oh, yeah, you

00:34:31.110 --> 00:34:33.349
were, you were. It was a waste. So we were, you

00:34:33.349 --> 00:34:36.190
know, I was in there listening, and you kept

00:34:36.190 --> 00:34:40.940
hearing these screams and moans. and yelling

00:34:40.940 --> 00:34:44.820
and all of that kind of stuff. And after a while,

00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:49.260
he stopped the meeting. Yeah, he was like, what

00:34:49.260 --> 00:34:53.159
is that going on? He's like, this is what Slash

00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.039
Oka is all about. It was in Atlanta. Was it?

00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:58.800
No, no, it was Houston. It was our second Houston.

00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:03.460
Yeah. Okay. It was our second Houston. And then

00:35:03.460 --> 00:35:06.019
he's like, this is what Splash Mocha is all about.

00:35:06.179 --> 00:35:09.480
And then he's like, oh, sorry, everybody. I think

00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:14.099
that belongs to me. Yeah. Yeah. I said, my bad.

00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.440
That's my bad. And then they tried to start again.

00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:19.639
And there was and it was just so noisy, I guess.

00:35:19.699 --> 00:35:21.840
And then Michael was like, sounds like a siren

00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:24.860
or something. So then that's how I got my name.

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:27.340
And so that guy, he didn't know until like two

00:35:27.340 --> 00:35:30.280
years later. That that's how I got my name. And

00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.280
so now he's like, you know, Siren, that was me.

00:35:34.500 --> 00:35:37.739
Because, I mean, we can hear it over the, you

00:35:37.739 --> 00:35:39.860
know, because there's walls that separate each

00:35:39.860 --> 00:35:43.219
ballroom. And we can hear it over so much that

00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:45.579
he had to keep, you know, sorry about that, guys.

00:35:45.659 --> 00:35:48.159
You know, he was like, she's enjoying herself.

00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:51.739
So, yeah, it was nice. It was nice. No turning

00:35:51.739 --> 00:35:57.369
back. Tina, talk to me about some of the really

00:35:57.369 --> 00:36:02.250
fun times. You have a story of one of the funniest

00:36:02.250 --> 00:36:05.670
or fun things that you've seen since you started

00:36:05.670 --> 00:36:08.369
Splash, something that maybe the people hearing

00:36:08.369 --> 00:36:11.670
it won't be too embarrassed about. How do you

00:36:11.670 --> 00:36:13.610
put me on the spot? I can't think of anything

00:36:13.610 --> 00:36:17.389
off the top of my head right now because every

00:36:17.389 --> 00:36:22.880
event is different. Man, honestly, I can't come

00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.519
up with anything, but there's just so many. I

00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:28.920
don't know if I could pick out just one other

00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:32.800
than any funny things, other than I can't think

00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:35.820
of anything. Of course, I'll think of five of

00:36:35.820 --> 00:36:41.539
them. We'll do a post one. You can call us, and

00:36:41.539 --> 00:36:44.239
then we'll put it back in. You wake up in the

00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:48.179
middle of the night. Yeah, no, when I get a chance

00:36:48.179 --> 00:36:52.000
to go to bed. I'm out. There's no, hey, Jeb,

00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.659
come over here and service me. No. It's like,

00:36:54.699 --> 00:36:58.000
don't even breathe in my direction. I'm going

00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:03.480
to bed. I got a long day tomorrow. How has Splash

00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:07.219
Mocha evolved, if it has? Like, you know, if

00:37:07.219 --> 00:37:09.519
you listen to the podcast, Brian Morgan loves

00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.679
the word evolution. He loves talking about how

00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:17.789
things evolve. So you guys had this vision, or

00:37:17.789 --> 00:37:20.530
Wayne and Missy had this vision of Splash Mocha,

00:37:20.590 --> 00:37:23.989
and they saw it grow and they saw it could be

00:37:23.989 --> 00:37:26.909
what it could be. How has it evolved since? Because

00:37:26.909 --> 00:37:28.630
this is what, your 10 -year anniversary, right?

00:37:28.630 --> 00:37:30.690
10 -year anniversary. 10 -year anniversary. So

00:37:30.690 --> 00:37:34.530
congratulations for putting something together

00:37:34.530 --> 00:37:38.610
for that long. For both of us, we both have experience

00:37:38.610 --> 00:37:41.449
in events, not in the lifestyle, but outside

00:37:41.449 --> 00:37:45.150
of it. And we know how hard it is to run a well

00:37:45.150 --> 00:37:48.449
-run event the way this is. I mean, when you

00:37:48.449 --> 00:37:54.789
guys come here, you see it's completely done

00:37:54.789 --> 00:37:57.809
up. So before you even get into the hotel, there's

00:37:57.809 --> 00:38:01.090
security staff out there checking to see if you're

00:38:01.090 --> 00:38:03.690
even on the list. What I love about the lifestyle

00:38:03.690 --> 00:38:05.989
is I like to get freaky as fuck, but if you're

00:38:05.989 --> 00:38:09.170
vanilla, I don't like people seeing that. Because

00:38:09.170 --> 00:38:12.539
even when I'm on the streets, I don't want to

00:38:12.539 --> 00:38:14.780
see any of that. So when you pull in, they're

00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:16.219
going to double check, number one, that you're

00:38:16.219 --> 00:38:17.920
supposed to be here. And number two, you ain't

00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:23.139
bringing your kids, you know. Some Wednesday

00:38:23.139 --> 00:38:25.400
nights in Houston have been a little awkward

00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.940
in the lobby. And then, you know, when you come

00:38:29.940 --> 00:38:34.079
in, it is well decorated. The registration is

00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:36.559
right there. Things are covered. So even if you

00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.159
get past security, you're not seeing anything.

00:38:39.659 --> 00:38:42.619
But how has it evolved to the sense that, you

00:38:42.619 --> 00:38:44.699
know, you started off with certain things that

00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:48.199
every lifestyle hotel takeover has set up and

00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:51.820
they need to do, and then as it is now, what

00:38:51.820 --> 00:38:53.719
are the things that's changed or gotten better

00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:56.460
or moved that you feel like is giving people

00:38:56.460 --> 00:38:59.199
better experience? Well, for one, the dance floor.

00:39:00.579 --> 00:39:02.880
We used to use, the hotel used to set up the

00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.559
dance floor now. Wayne and Missy have purchased

00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:09.559
a... beautiful led lighted dance floor for everybody's

00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.860
experience um we've got the led lighted stripper

00:39:12.860 --> 00:39:15.699
poles they were once a metal frame with plywood

00:39:15.699 --> 00:39:20.559
on it and um a conduit electrical conduit painted

00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.659
black and um which was which was fine next to

00:39:23.659 --> 00:39:26.440
the parquet floor that the hotel put down well

00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.219
then he bought the beautiful led lighted dance

00:39:29.219 --> 00:39:33.000
floor and it's like hmm now it just looks like

00:39:33.210 --> 00:39:37.170
Trailer trash. So then because of me, he upgraded

00:39:37.170 --> 00:39:40.329
the stripper poles. When they started, it was

00:39:40.329 --> 00:39:44.750
basically a speaker on a stick for the DJ. And

00:39:44.750 --> 00:39:49.829
DJ Rockin' Ronnie is our production manager.

00:39:50.010 --> 00:39:52.389
He's been in the lifestyle for years, and he

00:39:52.389 --> 00:39:55.150
pretty much does nothing but lifestyle events

00:39:55.150 --> 00:39:58.570
as a DJ. And he would bring all the equipment.

00:39:58.989 --> 00:40:03.090
And all the DJ equipment. And then Wayne and

00:40:03.090 --> 00:40:06.090
Missy started purchasing the equipment as Splash

00:40:06.090 --> 00:40:09.929
Mocha grew. They're very good at reinvesting

00:40:09.929 --> 00:40:14.349
back into the company. The tablecloths here in

00:40:14.349 --> 00:40:17.329
the ballroom that we're sitting in all say Splash

00:40:17.329 --> 00:40:21.269
Mocha. All the way down to the trash cans. We

00:40:21.269 --> 00:40:24.329
bring in our own trash cans. And they have Splash

00:40:24.329 --> 00:40:26.949
Mocha trash can liners that go on them. So everything's

00:40:26.949 --> 00:40:30.389
branded and labeled. All the pipe and drape,

00:40:30.530 --> 00:40:33.369
you know, we bring in all the mattresses. Nice.

00:40:33.570 --> 00:40:35.530
You know, and those mattresses have even evolved.

00:40:36.230 --> 00:40:39.190
In the beginning, he had went out and bought

00:40:39.190 --> 00:40:42.570
mattresses from a hotel that was closing. And

00:40:42.570 --> 00:40:45.010
he brought those. And that's what we would lug

00:40:45.010 --> 00:40:47.650
around. Let me tell you what. Have you ever tried

00:40:47.650 --> 00:40:49.730
to pick up a king -size mattress on your bed?

00:40:50.889 --> 00:40:53.789
That's like, first of all, they're fucking heavy.

00:40:53.829 --> 00:40:56.809
Excuse me for my language. Secondly, they're

00:40:56.809 --> 00:40:59.599
like a damn wet noodle. They just got a mind

00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:03.199
of their own. So those were a bitch to move and

00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:06.739
pack and stack and all the grossness on them

00:41:06.739 --> 00:41:10.519
after trying to load them in the trailer. Crusties.

00:41:11.539 --> 00:41:13.760
Yeah, and I'm trying to, I've got to hold them

00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.460
back so they can get the next one in. I'm the

00:41:15.460 --> 00:41:18.619
one that's kind of stuck to them. There were

00:41:18.619 --> 00:41:20.320
times I thought they were just going to close

00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.739
the trailer on me and keep me between the matches.

00:41:23.260 --> 00:41:25.500
You know, kind of like Princess and the Pea.

00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.920
And now the mattresses that they have, they're

00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:33.260
box spring mattress all in one. They bought the

00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:36.239
bed frames that go with them. They fold up like

00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:39.800
a transformer. So we bring in all the mattresses,

00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:42.099
all the pipe and drape. Everything, when you

00:41:42.099 --> 00:41:45.679
come to Splash Mocha, everything you see belongs

00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:49.139
to Splash Mocha. The only thing the hotel provides,

00:41:49.380 --> 00:41:52.239
they do normal hotel stuff, is they set the table

00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.110
and chairs in the ballroom. We do everything

00:41:55.110 --> 00:41:58.010
else. We set the playrooms. We set the pipe and

00:41:58.010 --> 00:42:01.590
drape. We put all the decorations on. We do all

00:42:01.590 --> 00:42:05.469
the DJ equipment. Everything you see is Splash

00:42:05.469 --> 00:42:07.690
Mocha. And I'm part of the setup crew. I'm also

00:42:07.690 --> 00:42:09.489
part of the teardown crew. I just don't take

00:42:09.489 --> 00:42:11.349
everybody's reservations, answer text messages,

00:42:11.349 --> 00:42:14.150
phone calls, emails, and just general questions.

00:42:14.230 --> 00:42:18.469
I'm in those trailers sweating with the men and

00:42:18.469 --> 00:42:23.570
doing setup. They went from moving trucks. Like

00:42:23.570 --> 00:42:27.449
we said at the top of this podcast, he now has

00:42:27.449 --> 00:42:31.969
upgraded it to two 51 -foot enclosed trailers

00:42:31.969 --> 00:42:34.809
that are custom built. Nice. And two freight

00:42:34.809 --> 00:42:37.889
liners that pull them all. And we get a lot of

00:42:37.889 --> 00:42:39.530
people that say, when are you coming to California?

00:42:40.170 --> 00:42:43.590
Because of that, and it's Wayne, the owner, he

00:42:43.590 --> 00:42:45.789
drives one of the trucks and trailers. His son

00:42:45.789 --> 00:42:49.269
drives the other one. And I'm usually as a passenger

00:42:49.269 --> 00:42:52.039
in one of those trucks. whether we're coming

00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.460
down here, whether we're going to Houston. Houston's

00:42:54.460 --> 00:42:56.519
a two -day travel event for us just to get there

00:42:56.519 --> 00:42:58.780
and a two -day travel event just to get back.

00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:01.960
So all of that has evolved. So now there's no

00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:04.159
more unloading everything into a storage unit.

00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:08.079
Everything lives in the trailers. So all that's

00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:12.880
evolved. We have all of our rules on, we call

00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.059
them A -frames. They're kind of like a sandwich

00:43:15.059 --> 00:43:18.929
board, but soft -sided. And so this way nobody

00:43:18.929 --> 00:43:20.909
can say, well, I didn't know the rules. Well,

00:43:21.050 --> 00:43:23.690
there's an A -frame with all the rules probably

00:43:23.690 --> 00:43:26.590
every 12 feet, especially in a lobby. So when

00:43:26.590 --> 00:43:30.469
somebody is taking a photo in the hotel and it's

00:43:30.469 --> 00:43:32.590
not in a designated photo backdrop, they're like,

00:43:32.710 --> 00:43:36.369
oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know the rules. I point

00:43:36.369 --> 00:43:41.010
probably to six wards that have the rules on

00:43:41.010 --> 00:43:43.710
them. It's the fourth one down from the top.

00:43:44.690 --> 00:43:47.239
There's your rules. Is that in the vetting, though?

00:43:47.340 --> 00:43:51.440
A reading test? I have come to the conclusion,

00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.780
because I have not been officially working for

00:43:53.780 --> 00:43:56.639
Splash Mocha for the 10 years. Two years of that,

00:43:56.699 --> 00:43:59.000
I was just helping my friends. For eight and

00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:01.380
a half years, I have been officially working

00:44:01.380 --> 00:44:04.500
full -time for Splash Mocha. And I have come

00:44:04.500 --> 00:44:09.820
to the conclusion, swingers can't read. That's

00:44:09.820 --> 00:44:11.320
what we're going to name this podcast, Swingers

00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:13.860
Can't Read. Maybe we're just too drunk by this

00:44:13.860 --> 00:44:20.260
time. That or the horniness is like those rose

00:44:20.260 --> 00:44:22.719
-colored glasses, you know? It's like beer goggles.

00:44:23.019 --> 00:44:25.960
The horniness is beer goggles. If it's not a

00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:29.860
dick, I can't see it. Exactly. I think that's

00:44:29.860 --> 00:44:33.079
the problem. They've got their horny goggles

00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:37.460
on. What's the total manpower it takes? Total

00:44:37.460 --> 00:44:40.699
manpower. Okay. The question is the total manpower.

00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:42.800
How much total manpower does it take for Splash

00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:46.480
Boca? Right. So we have, there could be last

00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:52.420
month in July, we only had nine people to do

00:44:52.420 --> 00:44:56.320
all the setup. This time we're probably at about

00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:00.940
12 people. I mean, that's not that many people

00:45:00.940 --> 00:45:03.840
to do that. You know, the ones that lead it up

00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:08.519
is Wayne, me, and Jeb. And we... Get it done.

00:45:08.780 --> 00:45:12.000
Get it unloaded, and everybody pitches in and

00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:13.460
does what they're supposed to do. But, yeah,

00:45:13.539 --> 00:45:17.980
that's all we have. We don't have roadies. We

00:45:17.980 --> 00:45:20.820
have single guys who have volunteered to help

00:45:20.820 --> 00:45:23.420
doing set -up and tear -down. Set -up and tear

00:45:23.420 --> 00:45:26.159
-down is not easy. It sucks. It hurts, especially

00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:28.199
on Sunday for tear -down when a lot of them have

00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.880
been up all night long. My husband's one of them.

00:45:30.940 --> 00:45:33.460
He'll go to bed tonight around 630, 7 o 'clock,

00:45:33.579 --> 00:45:37.429
and he's back up at 130. Because the ballroom's

00:45:37.429 --> 00:45:40.010
got to be torn down at 2. The ballroom, the dance

00:45:40.010 --> 00:45:43.809
closes at 2. Playrooms close at 3 a .m. So he'll

00:45:43.809 --> 00:45:47.070
stay up all night. And he'll get this all torn

00:45:47.070 --> 00:45:49.170
down. The LED screens will get torn down. The

00:45:49.170 --> 00:45:51.170
dance floor gets all torn down. Everything has

00:45:51.170 --> 00:45:53.550
to come down. And then they start opening all

00:45:53.550 --> 00:45:55.429
the air walls and tearing the rest of it down.

00:45:56.050 --> 00:45:58.650
So, and then I come down in the morning. And

00:45:58.650 --> 00:46:01.449
I get down here about 6 .30, quarter of 7. And

00:46:01.449 --> 00:46:03.849
we start. And we're usually torn down by noon.

00:46:04.610 --> 00:46:08.309
Noon, 1 o 'clock. And closing the trailers. And

00:46:08.309 --> 00:46:14.269
we do it with very little. Question was, how

00:46:14.269 --> 00:46:17.849
many would you prefer? Well, we don't want too

00:46:17.849 --> 00:46:19.929
many because then you got a lot of people standing

00:46:19.929 --> 00:46:24.110
around and they're half -assed doing their job.

00:46:24.389 --> 00:46:27.190
You don't want too little either. So, you know,

00:46:27.210 --> 00:46:30.010
I would say 10 to 12 is probably about the maximum

00:46:30.010 --> 00:46:35.199
because. You also don't want things just thrown

00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.179
and tossed around. Everything's got to be handled

00:46:37.179 --> 00:46:39.699
a certain way. That's how we keep everything

00:46:39.699 --> 00:46:43.139
nice, and we try to stress that. So you get too

00:46:43.139 --> 00:46:46.119
many people. It's like a baker. Too many fingers

00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:49.139
in the pie, you're going to screw it up. So I

00:46:49.139 --> 00:46:52.380
would say 10 to 12 is probably our optimal number

00:46:52.380 --> 00:46:55.119
of folks, and we've got quite a few of the guys

00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:57.559
on the team that know what to do. They've done

00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:01.860
it enough, and we could start setting up rooms.

00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:04.840
We could get a couple rooms going at the same

00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:06.760
time with a piping drape and getting those frames

00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:12.239
up. But, yeah, it's definitely a well -oiled

00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:16.219
machine, and there's always room for improvement.

00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:21.760
So, but, yeah. He said lube makes everything

00:47:21.760 --> 00:47:23.099
better. That's what I was going to say. I was

00:47:23.099 --> 00:47:28.260
like, don't you mean lubed machine? So what's

00:47:28.260 --> 00:47:31.929
the future of Splash? What are you guys looking

00:47:31.929 --> 00:47:34.849
forward to? Is there any plans you have in the

00:47:34.849 --> 00:47:36.789
future, or is it just to keep it going and keep

00:47:36.789 --> 00:47:40.969
it running tight? Well, as you guys, as everybody

00:47:40.969 --> 00:47:45.550
in this room knows, one, we run a tight ship.

00:47:46.690 --> 00:47:49.630
We not only, as Splash Mocha staff, do we tow

00:47:49.630 --> 00:47:51.429
the line, but we ask our guests to tow the line.

00:47:52.869 --> 00:47:55.409
We keep it professional and classy, and we strive

00:47:55.409 --> 00:47:58.690
for excellence at each and every party, okay?

00:48:00.129 --> 00:48:03.429
Now I forgot your question. No, I love all that.

00:48:03.489 --> 00:48:06.469
No, that's the character of Splash. What's the

00:48:06.469 --> 00:48:08.670
future like? What are you guys looking forward

00:48:08.670 --> 00:48:11.150
to? So now I remember where I was going with

00:48:11.150 --> 00:48:15.590
that. So we do all that, and the future is, you

00:48:15.590 --> 00:48:19.210
know, we want to keep it going because when you

00:48:19.210 --> 00:48:21.530
sit down and think of it, Splash Mocha is really

00:48:21.530 --> 00:48:24.449
larger than all of us. So, yes, we want to keep

00:48:24.449 --> 00:48:26.969
it going. And I know Wayne and Missy, they're

00:48:26.969 --> 00:48:29.909
wanting to grow it just a little bit more. And

00:48:29.909 --> 00:48:32.730
that's just a matter of timing. The right city,

00:48:32.849 --> 00:48:35.929
the right state, the right hotel, the right everything.

00:48:36.090 --> 00:48:38.170
It's just got to be right. So they're looking

00:48:38.170 --> 00:48:41.570
to grow it eventually into maybe another city

00:48:41.570 --> 00:48:45.110
or two. Not out west because logistically that

00:48:45.110 --> 00:48:47.429
would be a nightmare. We would be gone if we

00:48:47.429 --> 00:48:50.030
went to Las Vegas or even out to California.

00:48:50.750 --> 00:48:54.469
Just the fact that we would be gone 30 days.

00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:58.239
from our homes and families for that event. As

00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:02.699
it is, we get to the event a week early. And

00:49:02.699 --> 00:49:05.480
if we're going out to Houston, that's a two -day

00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.659
travel. And the reason we get out a week early

00:49:08.659 --> 00:49:11.539
is in case we have any mechanical failures. One

00:49:11.539 --> 00:49:13.559
year, we were driving out to Houston. We were

00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:16.019
five and a half hours from the house. And in

00:49:16.019 --> 00:49:18.199
one, not the freight liners, they were using

00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:20.780
a dually. The transmission cut loose and broke.

00:49:21.889 --> 00:49:24.030
You can't fix transmission on the side of the

00:49:24.030 --> 00:49:28.130
road. Right. So we still got into the hotel the

00:49:28.130 --> 00:49:30.670
day we were planning to. We got it worked out.

00:49:30.750 --> 00:49:33.210
We got a place to store that truck. We were just

00:49:33.210 --> 00:49:37.690
west of Birmingham for that week, and Wayne and

00:49:37.690 --> 00:49:41.070
Missy worked it out, and we got on site about

00:49:41.070 --> 00:49:43.610
four hours later than we were supposed to, but

00:49:43.610 --> 00:49:47.030
we got there. So that's why we go out so early.

00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:49.719
is if we have issues. And we also like getting

00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:51.400
there to start meeting with the hotel, getting

00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.840
all the ducks in a row, making sure everything

00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.059
is in line, making sure the hotel doesn't need

00:49:56.059 --> 00:49:58.679
anything. So, you know, if we were to go that

00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:02.280
far, we would have to leave a week before we

00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.699
need to be there. Then we're there a week before

00:50:04.699 --> 00:50:07.519
the party. Then you have the party. Then we have

00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:11.099
another travel of a week, not to mention the

00:50:11.099 --> 00:50:14.079
wear and tear on the tires, the trucks, food.

00:50:14.219 --> 00:50:17.320
You got to feed us all. hotel stay wayne only

00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:20.260
drives six to eight hours so he can keep everybody

00:50:20.260 --> 00:50:23.500
safe there's a look at how many hotels are putting

00:50:23.500 --> 00:50:26.039
in teeny tiny little parking lots there's not

00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:30.159
many hotels that will accommodate a semi a semi

00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.760
truck let alone two semi trucks because we're

00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:36.000
the same we're a couple inches shy of a semi

00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.000
truck so you know we got to think of all that

00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:41.159
and there's People that just don't understand.

00:50:41.260 --> 00:50:43.900
We just don't show up at a hotel and go, oh,

00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:48.340
we're here, let's party. So everything you see

00:50:48.340 --> 00:50:51.119
here is done by us. We've been a part of those

00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:56.420
kind of events. So we have probably collectively,

00:50:56.780 --> 00:51:02.019
I mean, I've not been, I probably did like 15

00:51:02.019 --> 00:51:03.840
weddings. I don't know how many you did when

00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:08.210
you had your event center. um catered for christmas

00:51:08.210 --> 00:51:10.929
galas been on committees for charity galas all

00:51:10.929 --> 00:51:14.130
kinds of things that were run really well and

00:51:14.130 --> 00:51:19.849
we've definitely seen somewhere you know oh i

00:51:19.849 --> 00:51:22.590
made this menu it took me eight hours i'm like

00:51:22.590 --> 00:51:26.469
chat gbt made the whole menu in 15 minutes i'm

00:51:26.469 --> 00:51:29.670
sorry you wasted your time but that ain't my

00:51:29.670 --> 00:51:33.820
fault so You know, we definitely know a good

00:51:33.820 --> 00:51:36.340
event when we see it and can appreciate. That's

00:51:36.340 --> 00:51:39.539
why I told you, you're like, I said, I know what

00:51:39.539 --> 00:51:46.639
you're doing. And on a daily basis, the two people

00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:49.500
that work full time on it is Wayne and myself

00:51:49.500 --> 00:51:52.780
and then Missy. She has a day job. She has a

00:51:52.780 --> 00:51:56.119
real day job. And she does mocha stuff in the

00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.099
evening and on the weekends. So she's like, there's

00:51:58.099 --> 00:52:01.550
two and a half of us that do this. Full term.

00:52:01.690 --> 00:52:04.789
And what Wayne and I do and Missy does is probably

00:52:04.789 --> 00:52:08.250
about the equivalent of five people. I believe

00:52:08.250 --> 00:52:14.530
it. Do you have a question? No. Oh. The question

00:52:14.530 --> 00:52:16.530
was, how do you guys pick the location? Well,

00:52:16.610 --> 00:52:23.730
it depends. It depends on state laws. Not just

00:52:23.730 --> 00:52:27.030
state laws about sex, but state laws, labor laws.

00:52:27.429 --> 00:52:31.480
We can't go into California or New York. due

00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:34.239
to labor laws. We can't bring our volunteer staff

00:52:34.239 --> 00:52:37.059
to do it. They can't touch anything. We have

00:52:37.059 --> 00:52:40.639
to hire people from the labor board to come in

00:52:40.639 --> 00:52:44.579
and do it and pay $30 an hour per person. And

00:52:44.579 --> 00:52:46.960
then they have to bring so many people in because

00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.780
that person's only qualified to lift a box. This

00:52:49.780 --> 00:52:52.440
person's only qualified to move chairs. That

00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:54.539
person's only qualified to do tables. When the

00:52:54.539 --> 00:52:57.800
tables are moved, nobody else can touch it. So,

00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.230
you know, They have an attorney that looks into

00:53:00.230 --> 00:53:02.409
all that for us as well. It depends on the hotel.

00:53:02.590 --> 00:53:06.210
They'll go to 200 hotels and get one that might

00:53:06.210 --> 00:53:09.449
say maybe because it goes against their religion.

00:53:09.550 --> 00:53:11.610
They don't want it. They've heard horror stories

00:53:11.610 --> 00:53:16.179
about other lifestyle events. Because they don't

00:53:16.179 --> 00:53:19.079
leave any stone unturned. We don't go in there

00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:22.039
and not tell the hotel exactly what we're doing.

00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:24.039
Because we're not going to get there in the middle

00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:26.420
of the party, them shut us down. We don't have

00:53:26.420 --> 00:53:28.639
an event anymore. Because at that point, we've

00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:32.139
lost the trust of our guests. Because our guests

00:53:32.139 --> 00:53:34.820
trust us to keep them safe. And that includes

00:53:34.820 --> 00:53:37.119
not getting the party shut down in the middle

00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:42.409
of the event. So it's all this pap. All the planets,

00:53:42.610 --> 00:53:45.050
the stars, Halley's Comet, everything has to

00:53:45.050 --> 00:53:47.949
be in the right line for it to work out to pick

00:53:47.949 --> 00:53:52.369
a venue. But it starts with the state sex laws.

00:53:53.329 --> 00:53:56.610
Because there's some states that have old, old

00:53:56.610 --> 00:54:00.190
laws from 1700, 1800s on the books. It's all

00:54:00.190 --> 00:54:02.469
going to be lost. It's right there. Yes. Tennessee

00:54:02.469 --> 00:54:04.929
is one of them. There's a law on the book about

00:54:04.929 --> 00:54:08.429
black men and white women having sex. Yeah. Which

00:54:08.429 --> 00:54:10.929
it probably wouldn't stand in a... court of law

00:54:10.929 --> 00:54:13.389
these days but you don't want some barney fife

00:54:13.389 --> 00:54:15.929
wanting to make a name for himself showing up

00:54:15.929 --> 00:54:17.969
knocking on the door going we're shutting you

00:54:17.969 --> 00:54:21.130
down and we're arresting you know half a dozen

00:54:21.130 --> 00:54:23.409
of you all of you we don't we don't need that

00:54:23.409 --> 00:54:26.110
so he does have an attorney that keeps keeps

00:54:26.110 --> 00:54:28.889
his eye out in our state oral sex is illegal

00:54:28.889 --> 00:54:33.460
it's illegal in the state of florida too I break

00:54:33.460 --> 00:54:40.460
the law daily. So, you know, I'm not joking when

00:54:40.460 --> 00:54:42.699
I say that SARS, the planets, and Halley's Comet

00:54:42.699 --> 00:54:46.880
all has to be in a line to make it work. Wow.

00:54:48.300 --> 00:54:50.719
Anything else to follow up with, then? No? That's

00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:54.860
awesome. We're wrapping up here, so let me ask

00:54:54.860 --> 00:54:58.559
you this. If you were to describe MOCA in three

00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:04.880
words, what would you say? Three words. Incredible,

00:55:05.219 --> 00:55:13.119
awesome, camaraderie. Why camaraderie? Because

00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:15.800
people come to Splash Mocha and they make friends.

00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:20.480
Those friendships not only translate inside of

00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.300
this hotel, but they translate outside of the

00:55:23.300 --> 00:55:28.420
hotel as well. So when I said earlier that Splash

00:55:28.420 --> 00:55:31.320
Mocha is bigger than all of us. What I meant

00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:36.639
by that, if somebody were to tear the roof off

00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:40.079
of this hotel and look inside, color doesn't

00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:44.559
matter. We're like a big old box of 64 Crayola

00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.239
crayons. We're a bunch of different colors, but

00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:52.599
we're still all the same. And to see people being

00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:54.840
engaged, and this makes me emotional because

00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:59.090
it's so fantastic. When you see people. truly,

00:55:59.170 --> 00:56:03.530
truly engaged. Their phones are put away. I mean,

00:56:03.550 --> 00:56:05.610
how many times have you gone into a restaurant,

00:56:05.809 --> 00:56:08.030
right? And you see a husband and wife sitting

00:56:08.030 --> 00:56:11.010
at the table. And for those listening, I've got

00:56:11.010 --> 00:56:12.969
my phone in my hand. And they're sitting here

00:56:12.969 --> 00:56:15.429
staring at their phone across from each other.

00:56:15.530 --> 00:56:17.530
They're not engaged. They're not living in the

00:56:17.530 --> 00:56:19.690
moment. They're not chatting. They're not visiting.

00:56:19.869 --> 00:56:22.489
They're not, they're just staring at their phone.

00:56:22.550 --> 00:56:24.969
They're not talking and communicating. When you

00:56:24.969 --> 00:56:28.010
come into Splash Mocha, Tonight, when you walk

00:56:28.010 --> 00:56:29.670
through that restaurant, look around and see

00:56:29.670 --> 00:56:32.030
how many people actually have their phones out.

00:56:32.590 --> 00:56:36.869
They don't. Their phones are away. They're communicating.

00:56:37.050 --> 00:56:39.710
They're engaging with people. They have people

00:56:39.710 --> 00:56:41.750
they just met sitting down and having dinner

00:56:41.750 --> 00:56:43.849
with them. They're laughing. They're joking.

00:56:44.030 --> 00:56:46.409
They're enjoying one another. They are truly

00:56:46.409 --> 00:56:49.989
living in the moment. We don't live in the moment

00:56:49.989 --> 00:56:53.269
anymore. Because of technology and our stupid

00:56:53.269 --> 00:56:56.300
phones, We no longer live in the moment. We're

00:56:56.300 --> 00:56:58.719
too busy thinking about what's going to happen

00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.820
tomorrow, what's going to happen in the next

00:57:00.820 --> 00:57:03.719
hour, and what happened yesterday. Everybody

00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:06.659
is present right here, and they're making friends

00:57:06.659 --> 00:57:08.340
and making connections. They're getting out of

00:57:08.340 --> 00:57:12.059
their box, and they are meeting people they never

00:57:12.059 --> 00:57:15.000
would have met inside of the little town that

00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.900
they live in had it not been to Splash Mocha.

00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:21.000
I have actually had guests tell me because they

00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:24.130
met. a certain couple or a certain guy, they

00:57:24.130 --> 00:57:27.909
now have a brand new job. It's changed lives.

00:57:29.389 --> 00:57:33.289
It's fantastic. I was in here after the men's

00:57:33.289 --> 00:57:37.010
meeting. There was a gentleman who I don't know

00:57:37.010 --> 00:57:41.050
what his position was, but his best friend owned

00:57:41.050 --> 00:57:43.409
a very large construction company and somebody

00:57:43.409 --> 00:57:46.730
else here. I think maybe one of the volunteers

00:57:46.730 --> 00:57:49.829
was needing some help in that area, and they

00:57:49.829 --> 00:57:51.510
were on the phone saying, okay, well, what's

00:57:51.510 --> 00:57:55.510
your qualifications? Where are you at? What can

00:57:55.510 --> 00:57:57.829
you do? And when they walked out of there, he

00:57:57.829 --> 00:57:59.349
was like, okay, we're going to put an application

00:57:59.349 --> 00:58:01.250
in. We're going to get you going here. It was

00:58:01.250 --> 00:58:03.889
beautiful. I can say this, personal testimony.

00:58:04.469 --> 00:58:09.710
I had no friends, zero male friends until Splash

00:58:09.710 --> 00:58:13.329
Mocha. Drew me crazy. I was like, how hard is

00:58:13.329 --> 00:58:15.750
it to make friends? Just go do it. Right. And

00:58:15.750 --> 00:58:20.110
I have some of the men that I've met here, I

00:58:20.110 --> 00:58:23.449
would take a bullet for. In the two or three

00:58:23.449 --> 00:58:26.829
years that I've met them and the confidence that

00:58:26.829 --> 00:58:29.769
they've helped build in me, the camaraderie,

00:58:29.809 --> 00:58:33.929
the brotherhood, right? The Bull Brotherhood

00:58:33.929 --> 00:58:37.289
came from Michael C., who I met here. And that

00:58:37.289 --> 00:58:39.980
was his concept. I got his permission. to call

00:58:39.980 --> 00:58:43.159
this podcast that before i did because that's

00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:47.400
his his thing and yeah so when you talk about

00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:50.619
that tina i'm just like 100 and another thing

00:58:50.619 --> 00:58:53.380
about splash mocha you know as far as the women

00:58:53.380 --> 00:58:57.099
go and not just splash mocha but lifestyle as

00:58:57.099 --> 00:59:00.440
far as women go the lifestyle is very much driven

00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:04.179
by women it's the it's the women that say yes

00:59:04.179 --> 00:59:07.519
we're playing or no we're not so it is very woman

00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:12.630
forward And I'm not one of those flaming feminists

00:59:12.630 --> 00:59:15.530
or anything like that. But as women growing up,

00:59:15.530 --> 00:59:18.690
we have always been told, at least I was, I'm

00:59:18.690 --> 00:59:21.150
supposed to be ashamed of my sexuality. You're

00:59:21.150 --> 00:59:24.250
not supposed to enjoy sex. You got to keep it

00:59:24.250 --> 00:59:28.949
quiet. Well, I was 15 when I had sex the first

00:59:28.949 --> 00:59:31.889
time. I was 16 with my first threesome. I guess

00:59:31.889 --> 00:59:37.159
I was slated for this. Anyway. You know, and

00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:40.800
it was I was taught to be ashamed of myself,

00:59:41.059 --> 00:59:46.579
of my sexuality. And this even though we cater

00:59:46.579 --> 00:59:49.159
to the single guys and the couples, but it's

00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.079
the women. And I tell I tell couples this all

00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:56.360
the time, especially first timers, that it helps

00:59:56.360 --> 01:00:00.750
women realize that. We are sexual beings. It's

01:00:00.750 --> 01:00:03.409
okay to be proud of who we are. It gives you

01:00:03.409 --> 01:00:05.449
an opportunity to be comfortable in your own

01:00:05.449 --> 01:00:09.389
skin. You know, I struggle with, everybody says,

01:00:09.469 --> 01:00:11.829
but you're so confident. Well, I'm confident,

01:00:11.909 --> 01:00:15.010
but I'm hiding behind that. You know, my ego

01:00:15.010 --> 01:00:19.429
isn't that high. I don't have a very good outlook

01:00:19.429 --> 01:00:23.849
on myself. But then when you see, you're getting

01:00:23.849 --> 01:00:26.630
comments and compliments from people who have

01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:30.860
For no reason. Nothing to gain. Yeah, they have

01:00:30.860 --> 01:00:32.659
nothing to gain. I look at my husband and I'm

01:00:32.659 --> 01:00:34.320
like, yeah, but you signed a contract when we

01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:36.059
got married. You're supposed to say that stuff.

01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:39.000
You know, yeah, thank you. He's like, you look

01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:40.579
great. And I'm like, yeah, you told me I looked

01:00:40.579 --> 01:00:43.199
great three years ago when I was at 210 pounds,

01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:46.219
too. What rose -colored glasses are you looking

01:00:46.219 --> 01:00:48.820
through? Yes, I've actually said those words.

01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:51.179
You look good at 210, though, too. Thank you.

01:00:51.460 --> 01:00:55.320
But it's the, you know. We get compliments from

01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:59.579
somebody who owe us nothing. And that helps us.

01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:04.079
It is. It gives us a good feeling. We go home

01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.280
with those words in our head. And it works with

01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.480
us and helps us realize, well, maybe I'm not

01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:12.320
so bad when we go home and look at ourselves

01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:14.840
in the mirror. And we are allowed to feel good

01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:17.820
about our sexuality. And we are allowed to be

01:01:17.820 --> 01:01:21.019
out there about it. You know, men get... Smacked

01:01:21.019 --> 01:01:23.139
on the back all the time. Yeah, good job, dude.

01:01:23.219 --> 01:01:25.500
Hey, how many women did you lay this weekend?

01:01:25.659 --> 01:01:31.539
And while we have to be quiet and demure, but

01:01:31.539 --> 01:01:35.400
here. I never drank that tea. Well, that's how

01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:39.079
I was raised. Right, me too, though. But doing

01:01:39.079 --> 01:01:43.699
this, it's helped bring out, it's helped break

01:01:43.699 --> 01:01:47.760
that mold. And it's very good for women to come

01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:49.980
to Splash Mocha because... It's a transformation.

01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:53.000
Exactly. They actually get to see themselves

01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:55.420
through somebody else's eyes, which we don't

01:01:55.420 --> 01:01:58.860
get too much of. And if I had somebody ask me,

01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:01.400
I have had somebody ask me, if I could choose

01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:04.480
a superpower, what would it be? For me to see

01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:07.980
how other people see me through their eyes, whether

01:02:07.980 --> 01:02:11.159
good or bad. But I would love that superpower

01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:13.559
to be able to see what other however everybody

01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:16.239
else views me And I bet we if we all had that

01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:18.719
superpower we would all be very very shocked

01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:21.820
at how highly people think of you Yeah, well

01:02:21.820 --> 01:02:23.659
and how we even talked to ourselves like that

01:02:23.659 --> 01:02:26.079
was a big thing when we got together is his self

01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:29.300
-talk was terrible Yeah, and I was like if I

01:02:29.300 --> 01:02:31.099
talk to you the way that you talk to yourself

01:02:31.099 --> 01:02:34.690
you punch me in the mouth So I just try to impart

01:02:34.690 --> 01:02:36.570
that to women. It's like we're hard on ourselves.

01:02:36.809 --> 01:02:39.590
Everybody is, male and female. I think women

01:02:39.590 --> 01:02:42.670
are a little bit more so because... But it's

01:02:42.670 --> 01:02:45.550
like you wouldn't talk to me like that. I'm 210,

01:02:45.789 --> 01:02:48.809
Tina, and I look hot, right? So it's like you're

01:02:48.809 --> 01:02:51.329
down on yourself as you were 210, and then someone

01:02:51.329 --> 01:02:53.010
else you're telling them beautiful at the same

01:02:53.010 --> 01:02:56.380
weight, right? So we... just have to remember

01:02:56.380 --> 01:02:58.179
that is like you know you wouldn't talk to your

01:02:58.179 --> 01:03:00.940
best friend the way you talk to yourself so it's

01:03:00.940 --> 01:03:03.139
changing that and sometimes I'll get in those

01:03:03.139 --> 01:03:07.119
valleys too but if we just you know if I get

01:03:07.119 --> 01:03:08.840
real bad then he's like you need to put sticky

01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:11.059
notes on your mirror again and read them every

01:03:11.059 --> 01:03:13.539
day so I have them all over the place just to

01:03:13.539 --> 01:03:17.380
remind myself you know what other people and

01:03:17.380 --> 01:03:20.059
however people see me so that's really good Oh,

01:03:20.059 --> 01:03:21.920
y 'all didn't know he was coming to a self -improvement

01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:26.159
seminar, did you? Almost definitely not. Oh,

01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:28.199
yeah, we're coming up on that. Yeah, well, I've,

01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:31.460
you know, I, this is my job. So I talk to a lot

01:03:31.460 --> 01:03:34.980
of people. And, you know, I sit and think about

01:03:34.980 --> 01:03:37.300
it a lot. Because, I mean, I eat, live, and breathe

01:03:37.300 --> 01:03:40.400
Splash Mocha mostly. So, and I've been in the

01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:43.760
lifestyle 20 years. And I've seen a lot. I've

01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:45.699
talked to a lot of people. And these are the

01:03:45.699 --> 01:03:48.170
things that I've come up with. And I think for

01:03:48.170 --> 01:03:52.050
women it's very empowering. And I think you see

01:03:52.050 --> 01:03:54.710
these new women that come in through the door

01:03:54.710 --> 01:03:57.590
at registration, at main registration, and they're

01:03:57.590 --> 01:04:00.670
so quiet. And they don't want to look up. They

01:04:00.670 --> 01:04:02.869
look down at the floor and looking at their feet

01:04:02.869 --> 01:04:05.250
like, don't make eye contact with me. I'm here,

01:04:05.269 --> 01:04:07.909
but I'm not here. And then to see them at the

01:04:07.909 --> 01:04:10.090
end of the party, and they're the life of the

01:04:10.090 --> 01:04:12.909
party, and they're looking up and catching people's

01:04:12.909 --> 01:04:16.360
eye and chatting and smiling and giggling. And

01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:18.639
they're allowed to be who they are without outside

01:04:18.639 --> 01:04:21.320
society pointing the finger and looking down

01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:26.239
on them. You know, it's very, and it's for me,

01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:28.739
it's very rewarding because I've got to see that

01:04:28.739 --> 01:04:31.519
butterfly get out of her cocoon. Well, this is

01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:33.940
a place where a lot of people find their freedom,

01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:36.500
you know. We're allowed to be who we are here.

01:04:37.269 --> 01:04:39.769
This is where Siren found her freedom. That's

01:04:39.769 --> 01:04:41.710
for sure. Yeah. And that's why, you know, we

01:04:41.710 --> 01:04:44.289
started the podcast that I have because I want

01:04:44.289 --> 01:04:47.409
to hear about people's journey. Like, you know,

01:04:47.429 --> 01:04:49.829
I always it would hurt my heart when I was younger

01:04:49.829 --> 01:04:52.369
in my 20s and women would say, I just don't enjoy

01:04:52.369 --> 01:04:55.630
sex. And I'm like, and I wasn't enjoying it in

01:04:55.630 --> 01:04:58.329
my first marriage. But I was like, there's more

01:04:58.329 --> 01:05:01.030
to this. There's something more. And I just was

01:05:01.030 --> 01:05:03.849
on that journey of like, what else? There's more.

01:05:04.329 --> 01:05:06.250
And we would talk to people and it was just,

01:05:06.250 --> 01:05:09.409
you know, very, you know, that's a whole other

01:05:09.409 --> 01:05:12.630
podcast. Anyways, I could just talk, we could

01:05:12.630 --> 01:05:14.730
talk all day. I could go on and on and on because

01:05:14.730 --> 01:05:17.510
it's just, like I said, this is bigger than all

01:05:17.510 --> 01:05:21.110
of us. When you start peeling back the layers

01:05:21.110 --> 01:05:24.949
like an onion, you start realizing that how much

01:05:24.949 --> 01:05:27.070
this is, if society could take out a page out

01:05:27.070 --> 01:05:28.869
of our playbook, like when we came back from

01:05:28.869 --> 01:05:33.110
COVID, you know, we were dealing with the George

01:05:33.110 --> 01:05:37.139
Floyd thing. covid politics everybody's feet

01:05:37.139 --> 01:05:39.000
everybody had their feelings on their sleeves

01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:42.900
and our event in atlanta we moved it from march

01:05:42.900 --> 01:05:47.840
to may in 2021 and our event was the first big

01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:52.059
event after covid and to watch number one watching

01:05:52.059 --> 01:05:54.320
people walk through that hotel door on registration

01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:57.280
with their whole faces covered with a mask and

01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.349
they see a sea of people Hundred people in the

01:06:00.349 --> 01:06:03.489
lobby and not one damn mask on. They just ripped

01:06:03.489 --> 01:06:06.389
that sucker right off their faces. Big old grins

01:06:06.389 --> 01:06:09.409
on their faces. You know, everybody's political

01:06:09.409 --> 01:06:13.190
COVID opinions. Everything was on high at that

01:06:13.190 --> 01:06:16.889
time. And none of that freaking mattered. Nobody

01:06:16.889 --> 01:06:19.670
breathed a word of COVID. Nobody breathed a word

01:06:19.670 --> 01:06:22.570
of what was going on outside the walls of that

01:06:22.570 --> 01:06:25.150
hotel. They left all that bullshit outside on

01:06:25.150 --> 01:06:28.760
the street. And it was freaking amazing. Like

01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:31.320
you said, Socrates, it was beautiful just to

01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:35.780
see people go back to the way it was before that

01:06:35.780 --> 01:06:40.079
stupid virus struck. So, I mean, it was just,

01:06:40.179 --> 01:06:43.460
it was phenomenal. That's beautiful, too. And

01:06:43.460 --> 01:06:45.659
like you said, the world outside this, this is

01:06:45.659 --> 01:06:49.300
like the only place that I feel completely like

01:06:49.300 --> 01:06:52.579
everything in my regular life doesn't even exist.

01:06:52.579 --> 01:06:54.219
Right, and we call it the Splash Mocha Bubble.

01:06:54.650 --> 01:06:56.349
Everybody comes here, they get trapped in the

01:06:56.349 --> 01:06:58.730
Splash Mocha bubble because nothing outside the

01:06:58.730 --> 01:07:01.730
walls of this hotel freaking matter. The only

01:07:01.730 --> 01:07:03.789
thing that matters is the people sitting in front

01:07:03.789 --> 01:07:08.429
of them. I love that. Well, we can go all night,

01:07:08.530 --> 01:07:12.809
but we can't. So is there anything else that

01:07:12.809 --> 01:07:14.929
we didn't talk about you wanted to cover and

01:07:14.929 --> 01:07:19.889
people know about Splash? Well, you call it the

01:07:19.889 --> 01:07:22.809
Bulls Brotherhood. One thing that we are trying

01:07:22.809 --> 01:07:26.199
to do. in the lifestyle is try to get away from,

01:07:26.260 --> 01:07:27.820
not that there's anything wrong with the name

01:07:27.820 --> 01:07:30.960
of your podcast. We are trying to change some

01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:35.019
of the terminology. We don't refer to the guys

01:07:35.019 --> 01:07:37.960
as bulls. We don't refer to the guys as BBCs.

01:07:38.099 --> 01:07:40.500
When I get couples that say, how many bulls and

01:07:40.500 --> 01:07:43.059
BBCs you got coming? I'm like, first of all,

01:07:43.119 --> 01:07:48.039
the men of MOCA are not bulls and we don't call

01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:51.599
them bulls and BBCs. They're gentlemen, first

01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:55.510
and foremost. To me, and please correct me if

01:07:55.510 --> 01:07:58.730
I'm wrong, to me, when they say it, and it's

01:07:58.730 --> 01:08:00.809
probably the tone that they use when they say

01:08:00.809 --> 01:08:03.869
it, it makes me think that they think you're

01:08:03.869 --> 01:08:06.409
just a piece of meat. Right. You know, you're

01:08:06.409 --> 01:08:09.869
just a side of beef. And I know for a fact all

01:08:09.869 --> 01:08:14.550
the men at MOCA are not just that. They're beautiful

01:08:14.550 --> 01:08:18.850
souls and beautiful people, and they deserve

01:08:18.850 --> 01:08:22.810
it. And also what we say at MOCA. everybody's

01:08:22.810 --> 01:08:25.569
a guest. I don't just call the couples and the

01:08:25.569 --> 01:08:29.609
single guys. When I refer to whether it's the

01:08:29.609 --> 01:08:32.510
guys or the couples or the single females, everybody's

01:08:32.510 --> 01:08:35.470
a guest. I don't care what category you fall

01:08:35.470 --> 01:08:37.930
into. But I do know some guys call themselves

01:08:37.930 --> 01:08:40.130
bulls. Some of them call themselves BBCs, and

01:08:40.130 --> 01:08:43.909
that's great. But, you know, we want to let them

01:08:43.909 --> 01:08:47.970
know, let everybody know that the men at MOCA

01:08:47.970 --> 01:08:52.909
are gentlemen. Well, you got some, a lot of ladies

01:08:52.909 --> 01:08:54.989
that we know, they won't use that word at all.

01:08:55.109 --> 01:08:57.489
They'll only say black gentleman or gentleman.

01:08:57.729 --> 01:09:01.649
And for us, we pick the word because we do know

01:09:01.649 --> 01:09:04.789
it's more specifically for the cuckold dynamic.

01:09:05.090 --> 01:09:09.869
Right. And as a married bull, and Brian has been

01:09:09.869 --> 01:09:14.529
a bull for 30 years, we're just saying from our

01:09:14.529 --> 01:09:17.689
perspective of the lifestyle, we're a niche of

01:09:17.689 --> 01:09:21.479
a niche, but... We have a unique perspective,

01:09:21.619 --> 01:09:24.899
but we have different people on. That's why Brian

01:09:24.899 --> 01:09:27.500
insisted on having Cyron, because we wanted a

01:09:27.500 --> 01:09:30.159
female perspective. And yeah, there are gentleman

01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:33.340
bulls. There are manicorns. There are just single

01:09:33.340 --> 01:09:36.899
men. There are cucks that come. There are just

01:09:36.899 --> 01:09:39.479
stags that come. There are husbands that are

01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.659
just curious. So those titles are loose. You

01:09:42.659 --> 01:09:45.659
know, you can be fluent with the titles. We're

01:09:45.659 --> 01:09:49.470
more concerned about... our perspectives as bulls

01:09:49.470 --> 01:09:51.989
and that we're a brotherhood, that we hold each

01:09:51.989 --> 01:09:54.949
other to a certain standard. But you're putting...

01:09:54.949 --> 01:09:58.090
It's a positive thing. Right. You're making it

01:09:58.090 --> 01:10:02.229
positive. Some of the couples I talk to, when

01:10:02.229 --> 01:10:04.250
I'm talking to them and they're talking about

01:10:04.250 --> 01:10:07.930
the guys being BBCs or bulls, it gives me a negative...

01:10:07.930 --> 01:10:12.270
It gives you the ick. It's like a job or it's

01:10:12.270 --> 01:10:17.029
like... That's all I see you as. Right. You have

01:10:17.029 --> 01:10:21.029
tasks to do. Right. And I want everybody to know

01:10:21.029 --> 01:10:24.909
that the guys are more than just a bull or BBC.

01:10:25.170 --> 01:10:27.409
That's why I refer to the guys as gentlemen,

01:10:27.569 --> 01:10:30.170
because they are more than what's between their

01:10:30.170 --> 01:10:32.310
legs. Right. Well, I like what Michael C. says.

01:10:32.430 --> 01:10:35.630
Some of us are ABCs. We're average black cocks.

01:10:40.160 --> 01:10:43.300
So, you know, you're not even going to get all

01:10:43.300 --> 01:10:45.659
BBC all the time. So what was there was something

01:10:45.659 --> 01:10:49.220
else for like a tiny one. I forgot. I forgot.

01:10:49.380 --> 01:10:53.760
Yeah. So thank you for making that clear. Because,

01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:57.859
right. What I do love is no matter what your

01:10:57.859 --> 01:11:00.609
dynamic and no matter why you're here. It's about

01:11:00.609 --> 01:11:03.430
being human beings. It's about connecting on

01:11:03.430 --> 01:11:06.250
a real level, right? And that's what I love about

01:11:06.250 --> 01:11:08.989
you. What I love about you, Tina, is that you're

01:11:08.989 --> 01:11:11.350
just real. If it's straightening a motherfucker

01:11:11.350 --> 01:11:14.510
out, you're just real. If it's showing love and

01:11:14.510 --> 01:11:17.710
support, you're just real. And that's what it's

01:11:17.710 --> 01:11:19.890
all about. It's about come here, be authentic,

01:11:20.270 --> 01:11:23.289
be real, understand you're a part of a community.

01:11:24.100 --> 01:11:26.479
Understand the way you treat others and how you

01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:28.960
conduct yourself has effect on the person in

01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:31.520
front of you, but also on the community, right?

01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:33.739
And that's what I love about it. And see, for

01:11:33.739 --> 01:11:36.119
me, from a personal standpoint, the way I see

01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:39.000
it, if you cut my arm and you cut everybody else's

01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:41.220
arm in this room, what color are we all bleeding?

01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:44.479
Red. So I don't care what color your skin is.

01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:46.699
We're all just people. And if you're acting like

01:11:46.699 --> 01:11:48.399
an asshole, then I'm going to treat you like

01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:51.970
an asshole. Right. No matter what color. Exactly.

01:11:52.189 --> 01:11:55.069
So if anybody wants to learn more about Splash

01:11:55.069 --> 01:11:57.609
Mocha, where would they go? If you want to learn

01:11:57.609 --> 01:11:59.750
more about Splash Mocha, you go to SplashMocha

01:11:59.750 --> 01:12:02.590
.com. All of our events are listed on our website.

01:12:02.729 --> 01:12:04.970
All the upcoming dates, all the current dates.

01:12:05.029 --> 01:12:08.449
If you open up one of the parties and all the

01:12:08.449 --> 01:12:10.670
rooms say sold out, we're sold out. That is not

01:12:10.670 --> 01:12:13.930
a marketing ploy. We're 100 % sold out. If all

01:12:13.930 --> 01:12:15.750
your room categories say sold out, we're done.

01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:18.460
We're sold out. So a lot of people think, well,

01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:21.600
why don't you just get the hotel to give you

01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:23.739
another block of rooms? When we go into a hotel,

01:12:23.939 --> 01:12:26.659
we don't buy a block of rooms, and then we sell

01:12:26.659 --> 01:12:28.260
those out, and the hotel gives us another block

01:12:28.260 --> 01:12:31.020
of rooms. We don't do that. We go at it. We buy

01:12:31.020 --> 01:12:33.539
out the whole facility from the get -go, from

01:12:33.539 --> 01:12:38.220
day one, including the parking lot. When I know

01:12:38.220 --> 01:12:40.060
there's a lot of parties out there that will

01:12:40.060 --> 01:12:42.100
say sold out. And next thing you know, a week

01:12:42.100 --> 01:12:44.960
later, there's 20 more rooms available. That's

01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:47.279
not how Splash Mocha rolls. And you guys sell

01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:50.439
out months in advance. Yeah. So, you know, we're

01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:53.500
in August 2025. We sold this event out five months

01:12:53.500 --> 01:12:55.979
ago to single men and to couples. It was all

01:12:55.979 --> 01:12:58.979
sold out. Houston is already sold out to couples

01:12:58.979 --> 01:13:01.279
and single men. We sold that out a month ago.

01:13:01.930 --> 01:13:04.430
um new year's is a little slower at selling out

01:13:04.430 --> 01:13:06.989
yes there's a bunch of events out there for lifestyle

01:13:08.130 --> 01:13:10.609
We don't consider that competition for selling

01:13:10.609 --> 01:13:12.869
out a little slower. What we're competing with

01:13:12.869 --> 01:13:15.449
is Christmas and family time. Nobody knows what

01:13:15.449 --> 01:13:17.470
their family plans are until the first or second

01:13:17.470 --> 01:13:19.890
week of December. That's when all my reservations

01:13:19.890 --> 01:13:22.409
start amping up. Last year, we sold out two weeks

01:13:22.409 --> 01:13:24.489
before the event for New Year's, but it's all

01:13:24.489 --> 01:13:26.909
because of Christmas. But it always sells out.

01:13:26.970 --> 01:13:29.329
It always sells out. It always sells out. Yeah,

01:13:29.369 --> 01:13:31.329
because if I had a dollar for every time a single

01:13:31.329 --> 01:13:33.390
man was like, oh, man, I didn't think I was going

01:13:33.390 --> 01:13:35.649
to sell out that quick, I'm like, listen. I'd

01:13:35.649 --> 01:13:39.069
be rich. I mean, Siren's in the Caribbean right

01:13:39.069 --> 01:13:42.390
now being served by a very cute cabana boy. Cranks

01:13:42.390 --> 01:13:44.729
with little umbrellas in them. Well, because

01:13:44.729 --> 01:13:47.189
we're like on a permanent payment plan. Like

01:13:47.189 --> 01:13:49.130
we're always signed up for like the next two.

01:13:49.229 --> 01:13:52.590
Like our accountant's like, what's ML ticketing?

01:13:52.670 --> 01:13:55.170
I'm like, well, that's like a, what do we say?

01:13:55.409 --> 01:13:57.829
It's like a convention that we go to. Like it's

01:13:57.829 --> 01:14:03.189
educational. He's like, okay, business. Okay.

01:14:03.750 --> 01:14:08.270
Exactly. Yeah. So Tina, thank you so much for

01:14:08.270 --> 01:14:11.270
coming on and just letting us learn more about

01:14:11.270 --> 01:14:14.149
it and, you know, showing us love and everything.

01:14:14.210 --> 01:14:18.739
And so if you guys. There's also a referral program.

01:14:20.159 --> 01:14:22.140
Affiliate. Affiliate program. I'm sorry. Thank

01:14:22.140 --> 01:14:25.140
you. And so if you guys are interested and you

01:14:25.140 --> 01:14:28.159
want to, you know, go through our affiliate,

01:14:28.220 --> 01:14:30.859
you heard about it here. Just send us an email.

01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:35.520
It's also on the show notes. And yeah. So, Siren,

01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:37.140
did you have anything else that you want to talk

01:14:37.140 --> 01:14:38.899
about before we get out of here? We missed you,

01:14:38.939 --> 01:14:44.060
Brian. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for

01:14:44.060 --> 01:14:47.039
all the audience and everything. Thanks for Brian

01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.640
for, you know, chilling back and letting us do

01:14:49.640 --> 01:14:52.439
this because he's the he's the big bull of the

01:14:52.439 --> 01:14:54.640
show. And thank you, Tina, for coming on. It's

01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:57.159
my pleasure. We really appreciate you. And you

01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:02.260
guys come check it out. Come check it out. If

01:15:02.260 --> 01:15:06.109
you haven't. Trust me. You know, you are going

01:15:06.109 --> 01:15:08.310
to be impressed with the professionalism, with

01:15:08.310 --> 01:15:10.390
the people that come here. You're going to be

01:15:10.390 --> 01:15:13.689
impressed with the way things are conducted here.

01:15:13.989 --> 01:15:16.529
And, you know, for the husbands, that's a big

01:15:16.529 --> 01:15:18.930
concern for me. Your wives are going to be well

01:15:18.930 --> 01:15:22.710
protected and well respected. And if they're

01:15:22.710 --> 01:15:25.970
not, people like Dimitri and Wayne and everything,

01:15:26.130 --> 01:15:29.369
they'll straighten you out. So check us out and

01:15:29.369 --> 01:15:34.960
we'll see you on the next episode. Luxury untaught