I remember my first splash, and of course, it
was Atlanta. And I called you. You called me
back. You called me back. And we talked. And
I kept saying, I love the way this brother is
vetting his bulls. Because now that you flipped
the script on me, you know what I mean? You were
like, tell me why you want to attend this event.
You know what I'm saying? And I was like, okay,
he's looking for what I always say, quality gentleman
to come to his event. He's not looking for these
thirsty dudes that just want to come there and
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Podcast. I'm the man himself, the Sigma male,
Brian Morgan, a .k .a. the lone wolf, coming
at you. with the other half of my podcast team
the lovely siren say hello sweetie hello and
of course my brother from another mother i call
him nephew the one and only socrates what's good
brother what's good what's going on y 'all all
right all right ladies and gentlemen tonight
we have a very very special guest and i do mean
special right um There are very few people that
I can say that I really kind of look up to. But
this brother right here, from the moment I met
him at my very first Splash Mocha in Atlanta,
I knew that there was something about him. All
right. Not only tall, cool, debonair, he actually
is the definition, in my opinion, of what a quality
bull is. Okay. Hailing from the great state of
Florida. Ladies and gentlemen, I introduce to
you. And he is a part of Splash Mocha. To me,
he is Splash Mocha. Ladies and gentlemen, again,
I introduce to you, Dimitri. Welcome to the Bull
Brotherhood, brother. Hey, thank you, my brother.
Thank you, everybody. That was such a warm welcome.
I want to hear it again. Hey, man, you know me.
You know me by now. I call it like I see it.
I call it like I see it. All of respect. And
ladies and gentlemen, I do, I really do mean,
I really do mean, I call it like I see it. When
you meet Dimitri, he really is the definition
of what that quality bull is, okay? Not only
a smart debonair, man, I want to ask you sometime,
where'd you get your wardrobe from, brother?
Because I know I got some smooth clothes, but
I'd be, damn, your stuff just be rocking. You
know what I mean? I came to see your recipe.
I am known for giving away some stuff. You are
dapper, Dan. I'm telling you right now. You are
dapper, brother. You are dapper. I'm telling
you. Again, ladies and gentlemen, you've been
with Splash now how long? Since the beginning.
Since the beginning. Wow. A lot of people think
Splash Mocha started as Splash Note. It started
as Splash Takeover. In one of the small rooms,
we called the chocolate room. Okay, okay, okay.
Well, I tell you what, it is a pleasure for you
to be with us tonight because we definitely want
to know your origin, your origin story, how you
got into this, what made you get into this. You
know, where do you see the lifestyle going in
the future? et cetera, et cetera. You know what
I mean? Normally, I love to ask questions, but
I know my nephew has got a hell of a lot of questions
to ask you along with Siren. So I'm going to
turn it over to him to kick this party off. I'll
jump in here and there. All right? Take over
there, Socrates. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Well, so
this is our industry segment. So, you know, we're
going to talk a lot about, you know, your professional
life. and all of that, you know. But let's just
start it from the beginning. What got you into
the lifestyle? And, you know, what's your story
on, you know, how you got started into this whole
thing? So I would have to go back to adolescence.
You know, you have your little crew. And I was
the pretty boy, you know. I was the pretty boy
with the jerry cup, you know. Or I'm wearing
the wave cap. And I was the one that always got
the girls. So did you put Soul Glow in? Did you
use Soul Glow? Or which one did you use for the
curl? It was actually Duke and S -Curl. S -Curl,
that's what I used. So it was dry, but it looked
wet. I used Moxie for that. Y 'all don't know
nothing about Moxie. Oh my goodness. I can tell
you right now, I'm the reason my mom put plastic
on the furniture. Because I stained up some shit.
There's different reasons we put plastic on our
furniture now. So, D, you've always had that
swag. In other words, you were born with it.
Well, let me be honest, I wasn't. I always hung
out with my older cousins. And, you know, it
was like that pressure was from them, like, you
know, coming up. You know, let's say 12, 13.
And they put that fear, oh, you're afraid of
girls. So it was more like I had to prove that
I wasn't when I was. And when I stepped off that
porch, you couldn't get me back up there. I was
timing somebody. So, yeah, that's how my journey
started. So, you know, just hanging out with
my other cousins. I will say this, and even though
I'm in my 50s now, I actually told them this
recently because I dedicated the way I moved
to three of them. And I told all three, I've
mended my life and my lifestyle based off what
I learned from them back then and so right now
today. All three of my cousins take care of a
key component of the way I move, talk, walk,
and stand. It's from those three gentlemen. And
that goes what I always say. I ain't trying to
cut you off, but that goes what I always say,
though, man. If you got some old school cats,
you know, to teach you or to be like a guide,
you can't go wrong. Oh, yeah. I mean, you can't
go wrong. If you got old school cats, you know,
because that's how I learned. You know what I
mean? I had the old school guys. You know, they
taught me how to play ball. They taught me how
to do. every damn thing you know what i mean
a lot of a lot of stuff in the lifestyle you
know what i'm saying that's what it was yep it
was a i would say you know it was a journey uh
my father uh i'm pretty sure he was a player
but he was one of the ones that i took here home
you know absolutely and i always respect him
for that because We never had no outside interruptions
coming to our household and disrupting our household.
And I remember him telling me a long time ago,
he said, son, he said, if you could eat one meal
for the rest of your life, what would it be?
And I couldn't think of anything. He said, exactly.
He said, that's how I see people. He said, so
when you get married, he said, it's okay to give
your heart. He said, but in a man's man's rules,
he said. your dick is on the community as you
want it to be. I thought that was by far the
funniest thing ever, but he was big and serious.
That's that old school, baby. That's that old
school, I'm telling you. It was ignorant as hell,
but, you know, I just remember those things,
man. I took it to heart, you know. But, you know,
it was a journey, and I guess I would say coming
up and once I... I was very, very, like I said,
the ladies' man, the pretty boy, but I also was
a very, very, I was a sports figure as well.
My parents was either the way, like, you're going
to work a part -time job or play sports in school.
So I stayed busy with sports, and, you know,
that brought on the cheerleaders and so forth.
You know, I can't just be one. I was that guy.
I was that guy. Like I said, that for Dan. That
for Dan. Not much has changed. Well, actually,
yeah. I'd say the one thing that has changed
is that I don't lie about it no more. And that's
because you live this 24 -7 like we do. So it's
like, why not let everybody know who I am? Well,
I was a kid. I didn't give a damn. I was a kid.
I didn't care. It was all fun. So I say once
my journey really took off was, like I said,
I was actually recovering in Mannheim, Germany
in 1995. And I went into a bar and I saw this
blonde. I'm 6 '3". This lady had to be at least
6 '5". And she was gorgeous. And she was just,
she was all about. black American men and GIs.
And we go to this table and she have a drink,
a soda, whatever. And she asked me, do I want
to go play? Well, she said, fuck. And she took
me to her husband who was doing coke on the table.
And he said, you want to fuck my wife? I said,
oh, shit. It was about to go down the pipe. But
he was so cool. He said, do it right here. And
he spit the chair around, and she bent over and
pulled her pants inside. I was like, shit. Fuck
it. And it went down from there. Boy, I'm so
glad I got somebody. That's my introduction right
now. I'm so glad I got somebody, brother, that
has been to Germany and has experience, wide
experience. And when I hear somebody say pretty
much the same things that I've said, you know
what I'm saying? Mannheim, Germany. Lord have
mercy. M -A -N -N -H -E -I -M. Lord have mercy.
Mannheim, Germany. I was in both. We crazed in
both. You were there in 95. I got there at the
end of 95 and went straight to Bosnia because
Bosnia kicked off in 96. So we missed each other.
We missed each other. Boy, I wish I'd have been
there. My goodness, boy. Lord have mercy. We
hooked up in Mannheim and Heidelberg and Ramstein.
Boy, we had cheering around everywhere. Man,
let me hush. Keep going, son. Keep going. Keep
going, brother. Lord have mercy. So let's skip
ahead to your journey with Splashin' Mocha. You're
doing the splash events, and there was a dark
room. When did you guys realize, you know, you
and the other owners, that you guys had something
here? So, the gentleman before me that was running
the chocolate room, you know, didn't, and I'm
not trying to disrespect you guys, but they didn't
have a... I guess I would say a backbone. They
let these couples mistreat them like novices
and fill -ins and just taboo. And once I became
into the chocolate world, I brought in, you know,
self -respect, etiquette, to where these people
see me eating breakfast with a couple that, you
know, want to be seen with us, and I just changed
the whole dynamic. And so we went from, I'd say,
five guys. The next year, we went to, like, 15
guys. The next year, we went to, like, 25 guys.
And it was like, okay, we got something going
on. And I don't want to say the organizers in
the owner's name, but we did a birthday party
for her. And I presented her this cake. And her
husband was looking at me like, you better back
the fuck up. But he's a great guy. You know,
he was super cool. He was great. And we had a
conversation and he was like, hey, we want to
give you guys an opportunity to do your own thing.
And we said, let's go. And we took off in Titansville,
Florida. Now, if you're looking at money -wise,
you would say we had a failure. But I call it
a success rate because there was nothing stopping
us from getting off the ground. The mark we made
on the lifestyle to me was so big that we had
more people coming back the next year. So I didn't
consider it a failure because we did it the next
year. And we had a great, you know, better. So
we put our heads together and said, we have to
take this to a different location. And we chose
South Florida. And we got out to the Fort Lauderdale.
And that's when we really took off. And how many
people would you say are at that first one? In
South Florida? Yes. Over maybe a thousand. Oh,
wow. Wow. Yeah. That ain't no joke. Oh, yeah.
We sold the whole hotel out. And plus we sold
out every day and night pass we had. It was a,
it was a hell of a, it was well organized. It
was, trust me, it was unique. How many, how many
bulls did you invite for, do you remember? Okay,
so when I came on to the staff, I was their right
-hand man. The position I'm in, there was a gentleman
before me that took it over because I worked
beside him. I was his right -hand man. So I would
say we had maybe a hundred. Okay. That's a lot
of work for them. A thousand people, a hundred
bulls. It was working hard. Well, that's pretty
much what it stayed, right? About a hundred bulls
every year? It depends on the hotel. So y 'all
went, y 'all pretty much went from a small room
to what, within two years or three, I mean, two
years tops selling out a whole, a whole hotel.
Correct? Yes. Wow. Wow. And, and how did the
word get out? did was this just great advertising
or was this a whole lot of like the the couples
going back word of mouth you know and yeah we
did it right about and we so we would pack up
in the car or a truck or just whatever minivans
and we would hit local sponsors from like we'll
go to strip clubs and just hit the dance floor
hit the stage until they kick us out we'll just
throw clients everywhere and just be out go to
the next one And we also was doing house parties
in the middle of this also to get our name out
there as well. So it was very, very, it was a,
it was pretty easy actually because we enjoyed
what we were doing. It didn't feel like work.
Well, it was easy. I love that you said it was
easy, but as a businessman, I want to go back
over two things. One, the average business takes
two years to be profitable. So the fact that
you were profitable, the first one, you're a
smart businessman by looking at the people. Who
cares about the money? You're going to expect
to dump money into a business to get it going.
And then secondly, as a promoter, now I've done
everything in this industry except for lifestyle
professional events. And I've been a part of
some and I've helped with some, but I've done
promoting before and I know what it takes. And
you guys did what it took. Because I know a lot
of promoters that would not all jump in a van,
hit up as many strip clubs, stay there and promote
until they get kicked out. Like, that's serious
business right there. So it goes back to my original
question. And you answered it, but I'm going
to dig a little deeper. When did you know that
you had some magic sauce? Because when the first
time I went. I was like, this is it. First, I
had to pick up my wife's jaw, you know. Facts.
And then I was like, this is home. And I didn't
know it was home until like the third time. But
when did you know there was some magic sauce
here? Okay. Chocolate sauce. Let's see. I would
say our very first South Florida because it was
very, very safe, you know. I mean. Yes, the couples
come to have fun with the guys and the guys looking
forward to the meeting. But it was so foreign
that these couples wanted to know your journey.
They wanted to have a conversation. You know,
they wanted to know your life because they saw
you more than the two of you. You know, they
saw you as a potential friend. And that moment
says, hey, Demetrius, come have breakfast with
us. Hey, Demetrius, let's go eat dinner. But
just have a conversation instead of, how big
is your dick? I was like, oh, okay. And I started
seeing that it wasn't just me. More of the general
was getting the same responses and reactions.
And right then, I knew we had something special.
That we were starting to gain our value. Our
respect. And let's focus on the marketer lifestyle
community. I really love what you said earlier
about that you changed the dynamic just by, you
know, having that first breakfast with that couple
and just being out in the public and just being
recognized and respected by them. And I just
really admire that is that was like the shift
for you that started all of this. That's awesome.
So I was like, you know, like I said, I had guys
that were older than me. too much pressure out
in the military. So I still had that go bottle,
that energy to where you can't tell me, AD, that
hot wife want to go, she wants to fuck you, so
you got to go do it. I'm like, fuck you and fuck
her. You go fuck your own wife. You know, I fuck
when I want. I want to take my time. I want to
have a conversation. I want to know your rules.
I want to know your hard no's, your maybes, and
your yeses. You know, because at the end of the
day, we both have to enjoy this experience. So
it's not like, hey, you get down and go fuck
my wife. I'm saying go fuck yourself. So when
they start saying that, out of that interview,
they're demanding our respect, more guys follow
suit. And that's the wave I like. They say you're
gentle about any and everything before they see
what's in your pants. So let me ask you something.
Let me ask you this, brother, because I remember
my first splash. And of course, it was Atlanta.
And I called you. You called me back. You called
me back. And we talked. And I kept saying, I
love the way his brother is vetting his bulls.
Because now that you flipped the script on me.
You know what I mean? You were like, tell me,
tell me why you want to attend this event. You
know what I'm saying? And I was like, okay, he's,
he's, he's, he's looking for what I, what I always
say, quality gentlemen to come to his event.
He's not looking for these thirsty dudes that
just want to come down and pull the damn dick
out. We all know that's going to happen. If you,
if you have what it takes to make it happen.
But so what I'm saying is what, or asking, what
are you looking for when you talk to brothers?
You know what I'm saying? Before you say, okay,
yeah, I know you're good to come splash. What
are you looking for? Well, I'm going to go back
to an individual. I'm going to go back to you,
that conversation we had. The conversation you
and I had, it was so, it was so mixed to where
I felt like we crossed paths. So when I asked
you that, because you shared your journey briefly,
and I said, okay, this is a guy that's experienced.
Like, this guy is in the know of the know. So
when I asked you, my eyes flashed. It was like,
okay, like, you don't just want a team. You got
something to bring besides your dick. You know,
I saw the substance. I saw the potential. You
brought more questions. From how that comes to
you, I just went more and more in bed with the
guys I started dating. Again, like, I want to
see that you want to come long -term. You want
to make a mark on the brotherhood. You know,
I tell the guys all the time, this is not a fucking
race. This is a marathon. But before you think
of enjoying yourself with the women and ladies,
embrace the brotherhood. take a step back and
look at the beauty of seeing 150 guys together
in unison and in mere replacement of what we
stand for and embrace that. See that these guys
are going to hold you up and keep you up and
will not let you fall. Know that you're a king
amongst kings, but if you can't wear that fucking
crown, give me my crown back, hit the door, and
I wish you a good journey. You know, I'm going
to wish you well. But I want you to know that
I'm going to praise you. I'm going to bring your
self -esteem up. But if you respond to me in
an inkling of negativity, hey, conversation's
over. And I was just reaching to you. Okay, my
brother, I don't think my brain is for you, and
I don't think you're perfectly fit for us. So
I wish you well. The functions are out there
for you. You're free to explore, but it won't
be a splash. Outstanding, outstanding. And when
I got to that very first splash and I saw you
and Mocha, And I've told this story 50 million
times. I'm standing there. I'm standing there.
You know what I mean? And here I am, you know,
at that time. At that time, I was still law enforcement.
And I'm standing there, and I see you and Mocha.
And all of a sudden, you two turn towards me
at the same time and start walking my way. And,
brother, it takes a lot to, like, make me, like,
say, damn. You know, like, oh, shit. But, hell,
I went for my eye. Turned and went for my damn
gun and forgot that she was in. I got it. That
was the it factor that the two of you had. You
know what I'm saying? So I'm saying to myself,
okay, if both don't own this, one of them have
to be the owner of Splash. You know what I'm
saying? That's just the demeanor, the aura, the
charisma that you guys have. And like I said,
when you're there, this last flash, I was just
looking at how you just, dude, you cased a room
just like I cased a room. You know what I mean?
Even though I know you're working, but you cased
a room and it's like, okay, everybody sees me.
I'm going to go sit right here and just chill
and make sure everybody is having a great time.
you make the couples feel so welcome and and
not only the couples but you you make sure that
you look after the bulls you know i mean you
make sure the bulls are having a great time you're
constantly like you know approaching us you know
i mean to give you know to show us love make
sure that we are are not um uh how do i say it
nervous or anything you know because some of
the guys it being their first blast is very very
overwhelming It's very overwhelming. But here
again, though, you make the guys feel at home,
and you keep stressing brotherhood, brotherhood,
brotherhood. And that's what made me feel comfortable
at my first splash. And I knew, I was like, I
might not make all of them, but I'm going to
damn sure come to damn ATL every time. Because,
you know, I mean, it's just a special venue,
even though we've now changed. But I don't know,
it's just a special venue. in georgia and it's
all because of how you are you know with the
people and uh like i said i thought you were
the damn owner i really i thought you would own
a splash so you know i mean where do you think
where do you think this is going dimitri i mean
do you think we're we're like evolved like this
is evolving you know this lifestyle is evolved
and here again i hate to say the word lifestyle
you know because we live this life to the fullest
do you think this life that we live is like evolving
uh more people are getting into it um or more
do you think more people are like coming out
of the shell saying that you know hey i don't
care if people know etc etc i mean what do you
think about that uh well it is exactly evolving
you know it's very commercial now pretty much
in any major city and very, very low key commercial
amongst communities. If you go back to the military
when they had the hats, if you know what the
hats are, I always go back to the hats, to how
secret they were, to how we do a convincing for
women that wear the hats. So yes, it's such an
evolution. But I'm going to take a splash, welcome
to the stars. Absolutely. Do you see yourself,
do you see yourself like myself evolving? Uh,
now that we are older, you know what I'm saying?
Do you, do you, um, foresee like teaching the
younger guys, you know what I'm saying? How to
be what you are now? Uh, wait, yes, because I
was told the guy is a younger gentleman. I said,
the moment you think you're married, that's the
moment you become a fucking idiot. I said, you
gotta always keep your mouth open to learning
because again, it's always going to be an evolution.
Because they're going to be that young gentleman
that you're teaching right now. At some point,
that young boy is going to have to teach you
some things or two because it's going to be his
time. And if you want to stay in the game when
it's his time, you're going to have to learn
and know their dynamics, their way, his rules
and regulations. So, yes, it's going to evolve.
It's just human nature. It's human nature that
is going to evolve. And I think misinformation
is what will slow it down. Misinformation and
misunderstood people that come in and think they
know everything. Like, I always tell people,
I don't know everything. I'm still learning.
Most of my responses will be opinion -based or
based off my teachings, my learnings, and my
experience. But, yeah, I'm very, very humbled
to say I'm still learning. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Socrates, Siren, y 'all, by all means, shoot
away with your questions. I know you got a lot.
Well, oh, yeah, you know me. So one of my favorite
things, so, you know, I think I've talked about
this on, I think it was. I'm not sure if it's
O -Faces or Keys and Inklets. But when I first
went to Splash, I had a lot of misunderstandings
of the way it works. And I thought it was going
to be a lot of non -quality blend. And I was
very impressed, very impressed by the gentlemen
that I've met. And some of these people are now
my business partners, my best friends, my brothers.
One of the things I loved is the mandatory class
that the single men have to attend. So I have
several questions about it. One, was that always
something you guys did? And if not, when did
you realize it was something you needed to do?
His dating process was completely different than
mine. So we always brought in guys that I didn't
feel should have been there. So I would go back
and, like I said, I was his right -hand man.
I was giving him some respect. You know, I never
disagreed with him in the opening or in public,
but we always had our specs behind us. So to
make sure things were going in the right direction.
When he say his little speech, I will go back
and add more to it. And when God would disrespect
it or ignore it, I just kick the fuck out. I
made examples out of it. Like, I don't do strike
two or strike three. So these rules that we put
in place, this machine, it only takes one fool
to destroy for us. And we can't take that risk.
We just can't, you know. I don't want to raise
him to this, but... In the lifestyle community,
being first a single man, trying to go through
doors in the lifestyle, it was hard as fuck.
And then being a single black guy, it made it
even harder. So you had two strikes when you
walked through that door. So when you come into
Splash, I'm letting you know you will have no
strikes, but I grant you only one. But it's preventable.
Just don't fuck up the rules that they put before
you. That's it. The rules are that cut and dry
and that simple. You know, it's a term called
KISS, keep it simple, stupid. I love that phrase.
I use it quite frequently. Well, United States,
the United States military. Yes, exactly, exactly.
And I made sure whatever I spoke in my meetings
and my mandatory meetings, I kept it simple,
stupid. Follow these rules, you will go so far
within the livestock community as well as splash
smoker. That door will remain open for you. But
if you break that one rule, I don't have no reason
to keep you there because it doesn't mean you
can break another one. Or somebody going to mimic
what you're doing and do the same thing. So no,
I'm going to get rid of that cancer before it
spreads. I love it. that second meeting that
we started doing the mandatory meeting because
we had to put these rules in place. Yeah, that's
dope. In the meeting, so it wasn't until recently,
and I thought they were going to ask me this
sooner. It wasn't until recently until one of
the staff came to me and said, Socrates, you're
married. You don't have to go. Why do you go
every single time? And I was like, one, I love
everything about Splash. So I like to attend
everything. And two, I learn a lot. And one of
the biggest things I appreciated is the staff
gets up and says basics. Here's the rules. Here's
some of the fundamentals. But the best thing
is that the veterans get up and say, now look
here, youngsters. Look here, you knuckleheads.
Get your shit together. Don't do this. You know,
do that. One of the guys got up and said, hey,
you know, instead of washing your balls in between,
put a little bit of lemon juice on it. You know,
that'll help. And I was like, that's pretty dope.
I'll add that to the acting list. And this brother
is, you know, he's got, you know, to me, brother's
a solid dude. And so my question to you is, when
did you guys learn? Or when did it become obvious
that, you know, the people coming love it so
much that they want to get up and, you know,
really be a part of keeping things in line? Did
you guys design that or that that just happened
naturally? Well, my question is, you know. When
did you guys say, or did you guys say, hey, we
really want the people coming, the veterans,
the guys that we know and trust to get up here
and also give some advice? Or did it just organically
happen that brothers started standing up and
saying, hey, you know, get your act together
here. Try this. Don't do this. Make sure we do
that. Things like Shot Clock. I was like, man,
Shot Clock was a great piece of advice. You know,
things like that. That was very, very funny.
So I would get a lot of guys that would come
to me and complain, right? And so I go, are you
afraid to call that brother out that made that
infraction? He'd go, oh, yeah, I'm not. I go,
okay, well, I want you to tell another hundred
guys, and I will put them on the spot. I want
you to be able to be comfortable. to get your
word across to your fellow brothers. You're not
telling me anything wrong to disrespect them.
I said it in the beginning. You're trying to
hold these brothers accountable. And I want you
to be vocal, and I want you to not be afraid
to be vocal. For God's sake, I said it over and
over again. These are your fucking brothers.
Yeah, you're not going to like it, but you're
going to respect it because at the end of the
day, it's to keep you up. Like I said, we're
building you up to keep you up. Everything is
not going to be peach and cream that come out
of our mouth. It's not. So I give everybody,
hey, if you got something that's going to make
Splash Smoker better, I will step aside and give
you five minutes to talk. And on top of that,
I figure out something, like you said, hey, you're
a husband. I will tell the husbands, hey, come
into these meetings. I want you to see what I
share with these guys so your wife can have a
better experience. I also want you to know that
that brother wants also to have a great experience
as well. So don't think he's just one -sided.
I want you to know that it's just not, these
are not just bodies. These are gentlemen with
great merit of character. You know, they got
all walks of life, blue -collar, white -collar,
military, celebrities. They all in there, but
they're all treated equally and with respect.
So if you got something that you got to say is
going to make the class staff better moving forward,
hey, I have no problem stepping aside. I give
that floor to anybody. You just have to have
some substance. Have you ever thought about having
a class for the ladies? Because there's some
things I'd like to advise the ladies on. You
know, Brian, a couple of things I'm talking about.
So we used to have a ladies group. And let's
put it this way. We disbanded them because it
was becoming too much of a problem to where they
held on to that title, Unicorn. And I had to
let them know that Spanish smoking is a hot,
wise convention. You being a unicorn, our platform
is all built and designed for the single man.
Not for you. I know you get the open door and
other establishments and other places, other
parties. But here, you have to follow the rules
and follow the lines like everybody else. And
if you can't, there's a place for you outside
of Splashbowl. Well, no, I'm not. So you didn't
want to go by my rules? Yeah. I'm not talking
about single women in particular. I'm talking
about all the women. The wives. Two. Because
there's a few things. I wouldn't mind. So I just
try to do that in my ladies group. You know,
I have the Telegram group for my podcast. And
so in that group, we talk about some things and
we kind of do a after splash, after action report,
uncle, and talk about a few things that should
be better and how ladies, because there's a lot
of ladies that talk about, you know, they don't.
know how to approach if a man is in a couple
or how to know he's in a couple or you know different
things like that so you know me and mrs mocha
have been able to talk in that group you know
coming from stag vixen point of view and having
husbands who are popular married bulls and being
able to you know just give them some food for
thought on different ways of approaching and
just the respect that can go, you know, for,
you know, we want to respect everyone that attends
Splash Mocha, but just the respect that, you
know, as the wife is helpful in that dynamic.
So, cause a lot of ladies just, you know, they
just don't know and they're afraid to ask. So
I was just curious if there was ever going to
be something for the ladies, but if there's not,
we'll just keep doing it. We'll be doing it on
the side here. I mean, I'm not sure, but what
we always, kept kept an open door about was uh
the podcasting because first of all it's it's
a great experience to do something live at splash
and uh things like what you and the old faces
does also uh he's an anchor like you are give
them also information out to the conference they
want to have a q a you know we also have when
you do your podcast live at splash you also have
an audience that's being recorded and documented
with their Q &A as well. So we also let that
be a distinction of what helps us also with our
rules and regulations. I like it. So... Yes.
Yeah, so... I want to get one more thing back
to the men's group. Have you... Have you seen
an evolution of the men as a result of this?
Have you seen people come and they're green and
they make a little few mistakes, they keep coming
back, they get involved, and then you see them
just flourishing right now? Have you seen that
before? I would imagine that would be super cool
to see. Yes, it is. Let me share a story that
just happened. Because I told these guys I'm
going to share this story. There was a gentleman
that just come to our last meeting, and he was
a virgin. A splash virgin or a sexual virgin?
No, no. He was a sexual virgin. Whoa. So, yes,
we had an in -depth conversation. And he was
nervous as shit. I said, my brother, this is
what I want you to do. I said, the two women
that's about to put you on that bed, I said,
I want you to give everybody the fuck out and
focus on them. I said, that's it. I said, pretend
like you have on a mask and you can be anybody
you want to be outside of that mask, your face,
your energy. Imagine who you want people to see
you to be. And go. When I tell you this guy,
first time he went, he didn't take both of the
ladies. And at the end of the Sunday morning,
he ran up on me and gave me a hug. I want to
have him on my podcast. Oh my goodness. Ask him
if he can, if he will be on my podcast. I would
love to talk to that guy. That's amazing. but
you completely changed the brother's life though
you completely changed his life yes all right
in that three day you know in that three day
window you completely changed his life because
damn it's one thing for a couple to come to an
event like that and they're, you know, event
virgins, but for a male to come and he is actually
a virgin virgin and you come to that, I can imagine
how he felt. I can just imagine. What a way to
go. Man, I'm so impressed. Well, I also expressed
to him the importance of life journey also outside
of the lifestyle. I was like, you know, don't
let this consume your life. You know, you have
to also be responsible with your life decisions.
You may want to have a family. You may want to
have children. Don't let this little weekend
uphold your future. Like, always think tomorrow
and focus, but enjoy the day. And we talked about
that today. So you were speaking to him, you
were speaking to him, for me, like a big brother.
Not necessarily. You're going in bull mode then.
You know what I'm saying? You were speaking to
him just like his big brother. Yeah, I had to.
We'll speak to a little brother. Yeah, that's
great. Damn, yeah, I'd like to have that dude
on the show. I really would. I'd love to have
him on the show. That's a first right there.
Got a dog, bro. Yeah. That's a first. I would
give him a call if I was asking. Yeah, yeah.
We would love to talk to him. love to talk to
them uh but here again though that's a testament
to you and and and your knowledge your expertise
your skills um you know the the experience that
you have in this so uh to know how to like i
said turn it off turn off the bull mode and get
just hey this grown -ass man talking to another
you know grown man but he's a youngster in this
in this area right now so uh you know to go to
go to big brother slash dad mode that's i hope
all i hope all of the uh yeah all the young brothers
and other brothers are like listening right now
because this is what this this is what i'm talking
about when i say a quality gentleman bull Okay.
A quality gentleman bull. Ladies and gentlemen,
we have one on the show right now. Okay. And
do not hesitate to reach out to this man. I'd
like to go back to this gentleman. The phone
call was so funny because we had that brief introduction.
I'm letting him talk. And so I stopped him and
I say, okay. I said, I'm going to hang this phone
up and then I'm going to call you back. Cut all
that bullshit you told me, because I know it's
all bullshit, I know it's all lies. I said, you
have to atone for me. I said, now I call you
back, there's no telling the fucking truth. I
said, I'm blocking you. And he said, okay. I
said, I'm going to hang up the phone, and I'm
going to call you back. I hung the phone up,
I waited like five seconds, and I called him
back, and we had a conversation. I said, now,
cut all the bullshit out, cut all the bravado
out, and let's talk as men. i said the same thing
where do you see yourself why splash do i ask
a lot of questions and then he just put the truth
out and i said look you don't have to impress
me i said you know i'm way past that i'm at this
moment this is where i try to help you fit in
i want to help your journey so but you can't
start your journey off with a lie because you
become a fictional character and then you become
that character now you're giving a full line
And I can't have you go down there and splash
mocha, but I'm not. So let's start this all over.
And he humbled himself and he put the truth out.
Okay, sir, you might as well be out. Yes, I never
had sex. So, okay, that's no problem. I said,
fine. I said, now breathe. You feel better, right?
I said, I didn't hang up the phone. I'm still
here. So now let's continue the conversation.
And we had our conversation. Man, that's all
right. That's all right. That was all right.
Those lucky ladies. Got a fresh one. I want people
to know. I'm sorry. No, no, go ahead. No, I want
people to know, like, I would give anybody, almost
anybody, an opportunity if they can get past
my conversation. because I know how I feel to
have a door closed on you. I know how I feel
for people to tell you no. I know how that feels.
I know. So to put a brand together that's all
they built and designed for you and for me to
tell you no when I give you an opportunity, be
set up, be upfront with me. That's all I ask.
Your word is everything. You send me a picture
of your dick, that's an automatic no. I don't
give a fuck about that. You show me your wallet,
that's an automatic no. I don't care about that.
I want to know honestly, bluntness, and character.
Honestly, I want honesty and be completely transparent.
I said bluntness and character. So, yes, you
know, just be open to us with me. I've been there,
so that's why I want people to know. I can't
start off at the top. Trust me. And the path
that I'm giving you is way smoother than what
I had. I want people to know right now still.
Brother, when I get the space. Yes, I don't know
what choice. I put that shit together. We sweated,
I mean, long hours. And then we stay up at the
end of the night and tear it all apart again.
The hard work really pay off because we do it
for the lover. And I enjoy it. I tell you, I
love that I can give back to the lifestyle and
the lifestyle community what the rest of the
world has took from me. You guys, like I said,
if you like... To know my journey to where, where
was I? I served five tours. And each tour I served
combat in, I got fucked up in all those tours
where I had to go through some type of rehab,
some type of therapy. And coming home, I felt
like I was lost. I lost my brothers in the military.
They were no longer there. I lost that unity.
And now I'm home with a bunch of people I don't
know. So I feel lost in three different dimensions.
And then I found myself walking on the fucking
beach with two knee braces and little crutches.
And I just happened to roll across a lady practicing
yoga with a bunch of people. Oh, that was so
funny. They thought I was a fucking perv. Looked
at a bunch of women doing yoga. And she told
me, what you looking at? She started yelling
at me. And I had to walk over to apologize. And
I told her, I said, ma 'am, I said, are you doing
yoga? She said, no, I'm doing Pilates. And I
shared with her, I said, ma 'am, I'm sorry. I'm
going to come back there. I just retired. I said,
I was told that Pilates and yoga will help with
your mental as well as physical rehab. And when
I got all the warm welcoming and thank you for
your service and all the hoods, they gave me
a mat and sit me in the back. And trust me. You're
not gonna try to cross your legs and fold and
all that shit. Bro, I wouldn't go back to combat.
That shit hurt. They had to get me off the ground.
Oh, boy. But the lady that taught the class,
she was in the lifestyle. And that's how I started
meeting people back when I came back home. Because
of her. So the lifestyle gave me so much. No,
it was because he wore, ladies and gentlemen,
it was because he wore gray sweatpants and they
had that print showing. That's what it was. I
like to be in that. You would be a dickstraction
for sure in my yoga class. I don't think I could.
I would be doing some extra downward dog in front
of you, sir. I would make sure my mat was firmly
planted right in front of you. Now watch me,
sir. Watch me. I will show you. Yes, there you
go. It was such a journey. I feel like, okay.
My lifestyle generally has been so great to me.
Now it's time to give back. So that's when I
started slowing down on the play, and I started
educating more people. I started entertaining
more people. I started grooming gentlemen, like,
just in different areas where there was blackness,
especially on the top of their fucking brain.
Because a lot of guys just didn't know. You know,
a lot of people, a lot of guys come in, oh, I'm
a bull. What makes you a bull? That's what you
think, brother? That's what you think? Go back
to kindergarten. Go back to kindergarten, my
brother. You either have that or you don't. There's
nothing to learn there. You've got what you've
got. But smarts and skills is a whole other direction
for the bull. Preach. Preach, brother. Preach.
I'm enjoying just listening to you talk. Preach,
preach, preach. Boy, I wish I could bottle this
up and sell it. I'm telling you. And we've been
preaching, well, I've been preaching the same
thing for the longest. And here again, to hear
somebody come on this podcast, on this platform,
and pretty much reiterate what I've been thinking
and saying to myself all these years, because
here I am, I'm just coming out. you know, on
this podcast, actually talking now, but to hear
you say the same thing, and pretty much the same,
almost a similar journey. It's just very, very
refreshing. And to hear someone that can pretty
much say the same things that I've been saying
and feeling, you know, for a long time, how it
is so much more than just. the sex or you you
you having the big dick and all that stuff like
that it has nothing to do with that nothing to
do with that you know this is about you putting
together all of those skills all of those skills
that are required to be that that quality guy
um that can come in and again like i said learns
knows how to respect the couple protect her and
then also love her i .e the physical but also
claimer trainer and owner you know um exactly
so it's it's you should write a book though you
could write a book i'm asking the middle of that
you are well great great i've been running for
three years now great the game has to be both
told and sold right it has to be both told and
sold uh and i believe there are Well, no, let
me rephrase that. I know there are so many guys
out there that would love to be able to read
what you are saying. You know what I mean? Read
it. Since you guys are on the line right here
talking, there are chapters in my story, in my
book, that's going to involve you gentlemen as
well. So we're going to have to have a future
podcast because it's going to be documented in
my book. Most definitely. Most definitely. You
guys are not just guests. You're not just friends.
I told you. I had treatment back in the day.
I see you guys are expanding now. Exactly. Exactly.
We share. So you guys are just as much a distinction
who I am today with making a better person. So
I'm going to always stay humble today. We feel
the same about you, Dean. Oh, yeah. Definitely.
Well, and I just want to say from the woman's
perspective, too, of, you know, and I'm. I feel
comfortable speaking for Mrs. Mocha as well on
this is it's just refreshing and it's comforting
and to feel so safe at an event and knowing that
even if my husband didn't attend one event for
whatever purposes and I went alone, there would
still be this entire brotherhood of all of you
guys like watching out for us. And, you know,
I think that's why. Part of why Socrates, you
know, we play separately at Splash a lot. You
know, he feels comfortable, you know, going and
doing his thing, his direction. And we check
in with each other. But he knows that he has
eyes and ears everywhere looking out for me.
And so I just want to thank and appreciate all
of you men for that. Well, I want to appreciate
you two guys because I watch you two. You guys
are such a teammate. Like, the way you guys work
together. Hey. If and when I get a woman on my
side like that, I want her to be just like you.
I mean, the way you put in women that's comfortable
for the both of you guys is so fucking amazing.
And they don't have to be as big as Chile, though.
What's the vice versa? I love that shit, man.
I do. Go get them, baby. Have fun. And, like,
I want you to do this afterwards. And we have
a really good system for Splash. Like we have
it written down and we go over it every single
time before of like how we're going to move as
a couple through that event. And then every single
time afterwards, you know, we talk about it.
Do we need to change anything? Was there, you
know, any disruptions in the event? You know,
and every time we make little tweaks. of what
works for us, like what I need more of or how
he can support me throughout or how I can be
a better slut secretary throughout. So we're
always fine -tuning the system that we created
together for those events. It is a beautiful
thing to watch them do. It really is. They are
a great couple. Well, and I want to tell you
guys, if you get that woman in your life too,
that follow that leadership of Socrates because
that's what gives me, you know, I'm a strong,
independent woman. Don't need no man before I
met him, right? But now I'm just putty in his
hands because he gives me that comfort. He gives
me that safe place. He is that rock. And the
systems that we have built for these things and
everything that he said, okay, if this happens,
this is what's going to happen, you know, is
true. That consistency gives the woman comfort
to rely on you in all of those situations. I
feel that that's the secret of why we've been
able to move in the lifestyle more quickly. then
maybe someone who didn't have that foundation,
didn't have that research, didn't have the educating
of themselves that Socrates did that work before
he even met me. So you guys are on the right
track with that. You're already doing the work.
You're already laying that foundation. But I
just want to say that is the key to the comfort
for me is all of that going on. I want you guys
to know, and I shared with you guys before, but
I'm going to say it again. As long as I'm at
Splash, that's my platform. It's your platform.
You want to do a podcast, you want to do a seminar,
and I can make that happen, please let me know.
I love to see growth within the circle because
I'm not looking for no give back, no pay back,
no anything. Pay that shit forward to the next
people coming on. And I need that to start at
Splash. It's very, very important for me to have
that start. You know, and you hear this from
me, so you don't have to go, well, no, no, no,
you hear this from me. If there's anything I
can do within my power in the lifestyle community
that can help along the way with your journey
to get to the next level, just say the word is
yours. Thank you. That's wonderful. I appreciate
that. That's wonderful. That means a lot. That
is wonderful, man. Yes, it does. yes thank you
thank you for everything thank you for everything
that you've done for us i mean you're you know
putting us out there like you have so far man
um i really do i mean from speaking from all
three of you know from all for all three of us
thank you so much uh you are you are an asset
you are a true asset to this this life you are
a true asset brother and and i mean if i could
damn do anything, you know what I'm saying, to
help get your book out there, believe me, I'm
all yours, all right? I'm all yours. One thing
I would ask for any three of you guys, when it's
time for me to give you the keys to drive, it's
your time to drive. Drive. All right, then. All
right. Let me see the presents you didn't throw
to me. Damn right. Love it. Love it. I love it.
I love it. Same to you, though. Same to you.
I ain't gonna lie to you. Same to you. And I
believe, I believe, I think it's about time for
us to wrap it up. Usually we try to keep it up
at around, you know, a good hour. You know, I
hate to, I hate to go, but we're not going to
keep you all night long because I can talk to
you all night long. Yeah, I got a beautiful blood.
I got a beautiful blood in my room. Uh -oh, uh
-oh, uh -oh. Wait, did I teleport? Hold on. Let
me go around the room. I'm going to show up at
your door. Let me go around the room right quick.
Let me go around the room right quick. Siren,
Socrates, you got anything for the mutual before
we call it a night? No, just appreciate you.
As you know, when I met my husband three and
a half years ago. He didn't he didn't have any
real friends. And it's just been. I'm not going
to cry. It's been amazing to see you brothers
like come alongside him and just be his true
friends. Like, I can't even imagine how much
it means to him because it means so much to me
that he has true friends now. So thank you. I
love you both. Absolutely. Absolutely. Same here.
Same here. Y 'all know my story. I've been nothing
but a lone wolf pretty much all my freaking life
until now. And, you know, to have met these particular
brothers and, you know, Demetri, you, Socrates,
Damien, Mike C., y 'all are truly pagan. You
guys are truly, truly, I can call y 'all brothers,
my brother. And there's nothing that I won't
do for you. Like I said, can't wait to meet,
to actually get with Pagan. And we all be together
and just chop it up. I know that shit is going
to be comical. I know it is. I know it is. That's
going to be freaking comical. I feel it. I feel
it in my bones, bro. I feel it in my bones already.
You know what I'm saying? I know that's going
to be comedy, man. I know it is. I cannot wait.
I cannot wait. So, again, brother, from the bottom
of my heart, I do. I love you. Love you. Love
you. Along with, of course, the fam, you know,
Socrates and Siren. And I guess we just, hell,
I guess that's how we're going to end it for
the night, ladies and gentlemen. You know. If
there's nothing else to be said, again, Dimitri,
thank you. Thank you. Thank you for coming on
the Bull Brotherhood. And it's indeed been a
pleasure to hear your origin story. Good night,
my brother. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And for myself,
along with Socrates and Siren, to the brothers
of the Bull Brotherhood, keep it sexy. And as
always, I bid you guys a good night. And to my
lovely hot wives and hot wife couples out there,
you know what I'm about to say. Good morning.
Until we meet again, y 'all, have a wonderful
evening. Good night. Good night.