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or emotional power this probably isn't the show

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for you but if you're ready to step into your

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masculine edge and embrace a lifestyle that demands

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mastery welcome to the brotherhood welcome to

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the bull brotherhood podcast where we talk power

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pleasure and the art of dominance and ethical

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non -monogamy this is not your average lifestyle

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podcast this is for men who lead men who master

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and men who leave a lasting impression. If you're

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here, you're not just curious. You're ready to

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elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives, stags,

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and open -minded explorers, we see you. Let's

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go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and thank

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you for tuning in to another informative episode

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of the Bull Brotherhood podcast. I'm the Sigma

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male himself, Brian Morgan, along with my podcast

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family, the Seductive Siren. Partner in crime,

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her husband. And her partner in crime, her husband,

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the philosopher himself, Socrates. How y 'all

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doing tonight? Excellent. How are you? What's

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good, Uncle? What's good? Outstanding. Outstanding.

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Outstanding. Also, ladies and gentlemen, we have

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two people with us tonight who are just very,

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very special to me. They hold a special place

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among us. They are truly my family, and I love

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them very much. Please welcome my baby girl and

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my girlfriend, Lindsay. Say hello. Hello. And

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her husband, Nate. And partner in crime. And

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my friend, Big Phil. What's up? Lee, how you

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doing? Doing good, baby. Doing good. Tonight,

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ladies and gentlemen, the topic of the evening

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is going to be something that's here again near

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and dear to me because I think a lot of people

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are like... Chiming in to the fact that I say

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claim, train, and own, I think they're taking

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it the wrong way. When I say claim, train, and

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own a couple, I mean that the couple is getting

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the bull experience, the whole bull experience.

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This has nothing to do with sex or the physical.

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Sex is actually something that's secondary in

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this process. A true bull is like a master of,

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he's a master of skill, respect. He knows how

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to be patient and sensitive. And what this does

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is it brings me closer to my couple, okay? And

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I'm so glad that I have Phillip and Lindsey up

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here because they can actually tell you how we

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have incorporated that saying of claim, train,

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and own to our relationship tonight. I guess

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we'll start it off, you know, as kind of like

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telling our story. What do you think about that

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Socrates and Siren? Do you want to hear that

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and see how that claim training goes into that?

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I'm very intrigued, especially by the part that

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people are confused about. So I'm excited to

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hear. Okay. Well, and ladies and gentlemen, you're

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going to hear Phillip and Lindsay just kind of

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chime in. you know, really when they want to.

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They're not like, you know, breaking in, breaking

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into what I'm saying. But I do want them, though,

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to really tell their story. And I guess I'll

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let Lindsay start it off if she wants to, because

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she's the one that reached out to me first. So

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go ahead, baby girl. Well, I figured that Philip

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would kind of tell the story about how we kind

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of jumped into the lifestyle and we started out.

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Where we've transitioned and evolved into. Go

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right ahead. Go right ahead. Well, I guess how

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we started off was, you know, we had been married

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20 years, I think, at that point. And, you know,

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we were in a lull. We were, you know, typical

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couples that, you know, you have the kids and

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you're comfortable in life. We were neglecting

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each other, I guess. in the bedroom back and

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forth and then well I don't want to like throw

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you under the bus or anything but I kind of found

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out that she was messaging a guy that she worked

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with and at the beginning you know I had all

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the different kinds of emotions of course I was

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upset and then but at the same time I always

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had this fantasy of her being with a black guy

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right so you know in all the years leading up

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to this i'd always watch like bbc porn and hot

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wife porn and things like that and i was like

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man this is pretty freaking hot so found out

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who she was talking to and we i knew him because

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we had met at a function a work function so i

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met him and his wife and she's a mexican right

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He's 6 '3", black guy, you know, muscles, former

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military. So we got along great. Just what she

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likes. Just what she likes. It fits her profile.

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Sounds like someone we know. Yeah, that's pretty

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much online with it. So she was not very technology

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savvy. So she was messaging on Facebook back

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and forth. And I had, you know, I had her log

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in. So I was just watching them message back

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and forth for like two months. So, you know,

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I say I'm upset, but then I'm not because I think

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it's pretty freaking hot. You know, they're no,

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they didn't do anything. Just flirting. And finally,

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I got to the point. I was like, OK, I got to

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confront these two to drive me nuts. So, Philip,

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can I step in and ask? Did Lindsay know that

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you were eavesdropping on the conversation? No,

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no, no. She had no clue. That was so intriguing.

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I'm like on the edge of my seat right now. Yeah,

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so, yeah, she had no idea. And there was a time,

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one time you were inside at an eye appointment,

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and I was outside in the car. So she was waiting

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in the waiting room, messaging back and forth

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with him. I'm just watching the conversation

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live, go back and forth, back and forth. So that's

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just one of the times. Other times they'd be

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messaging, I could just read right along with

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them, you know, see what they're saying. And

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he had talked about, you know, they had been

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in the lifestyle before, him and his wife, prior

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to them moving near us. So I confronted them.

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at work you know stay away from my wife the whole

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thing but then I was like okay this priest will

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freak out so we after about a month or more of

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us sitting down having serious conversations

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like every night sitting on the porch talking

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about is this something you want to pursue you

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know the lifestyle because we knew nothing about

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the lifestyle and I started looking at podcasts

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we started listening to the accidental swingers

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is one of them that's how we started getting

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more information and i said well if you want

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to do this you know who who would you want to

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try this with and she had no idea was like well

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how about i'm not gonna yeah these people i'm

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you know i'm not gonna say his name and she's

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like uh okay because i knew she was attracted

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to him but without a doubt i knew she wanted

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you know to get it on with him So I texted him

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one evening. I said, hey, meet me at this local

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bar. And he was shocked. Like, he did not expect

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a text from me. He's like, hey, meet me there.

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So we go there and we talk for like two hours,

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just the two of us. I had a lot of questions.

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Of course, I had a lot of rules, too. Like, if

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this is going to happen, this and that, you know,

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I've got to be there. Because I didn't know any

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different. I wanted to see it, too. So he's like,

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yeah, hell yeah, I'm down. Because he's wanted

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to fuck her for two years. So I called her up.

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I said, well, get your butt to the bar. And she

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was nervous as hell. You had like five drinks,

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like back to back to back. She was like, well,

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let's go. Let's go do this. Let's go to a hotel.

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And I was nervous as hell. I'll get out, you

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know, even checking at the counter. I'm like,

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Oh my God, what's this guy think? So we go into

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the room and I go sit in the chair in the corner.

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It's dark. I'm just like, I couldn't hardly contain

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my excitement. And she was fiddling around and

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delaying. So anyway, so they started making out

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and I'm sitting there just. Hard as a rock watching

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this. And he just basically took control, took

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over. And it was a pretty damn hot experience.

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He goes down on him. That was amazing. That's

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my best part about this is watching her with

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other guys and women. So just how she just loses

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herself in the moment. And so he was going at

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it with her. And she actually looked over at

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me and waved me over and we spit roasted her.

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Well, that's basically how we got started. And

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we were with, well, with him for a while because

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his wife didn't get involved for a little while.

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She had issues with that, you know, we're not

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going to get into, but I'd sneak him over. I'd

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pull the lawnmower out of the shed and put. Blank

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some things down, and I'd sneak them into the

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backyard, and they'd go out there and fuck in

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the shed while the kids were inside, and I was

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making lunches. I'd come out and watch for a

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little bit, sometimes participate. With or without

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the peanut butter? It was pretty damn hot, because

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we were just figuring out different ways to get

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together, you know, after hours. Sometimes it

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would be like midnight on a work school day.

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So eventually, she had to have it. Oh, she did,

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and she loved it. It was at least two or three

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times a week. So eventually his wife did get

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involved. That's where Lindsay had her real,

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real woman -on -woman experience. Oh, my gosh,

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she was a natural going down on his wife. From

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that point on, she couldn't get off without her.

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She could only get off with Lindsay going down

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on her. So that was... A little point of contention,

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I guess. So we were with them for, I don't know,

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three or four months, and then it just kind of

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faded off. And we really enjoyed the time we

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were having with them, and let's figure out how

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we can continue this with other people. And that's

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where the search began. So we start off on Facebook

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groups. We didn't know anything about any of

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the lifestyle websites or anything, but we met

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a guy. A couple hours away from us, you know,

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we did some interesting scenarios with him. So

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he got us involved and we hit the road running.

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Sounds like a winner. Love to hear about those

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interesting scenarios, but I guess we do that

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all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A few good stories

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with him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Any questions?

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Socrates, the siren before Lindsay takes over.

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Oh, yeah. No, I got questions. Philip, why black

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men? Hello? Can you hear it? Okay, yeah. So,

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Philip, why black men? I'm not sure. I think

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it goes back to the fantasy. We had talked to

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the yearling. She's like, there's no way I could

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have that because of her family upbringing and

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all the people. It was taboo. That's the thing

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about it. It was taboo. um you know forbidden

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so i was always attracting of course you watch

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different porn and i always thought man that's

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that's freaking hot the white wife you know with

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the black guy or the gangbang i love that shit

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just watching the samaria i was like man and

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that's what it was it was just a fantasy and

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knowing that she would probably never do that

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and you know then all of a sudden this happens

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i'm like oh my god this could come true what

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made you go ahead no go ahead what's your question

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what um what made you like start eavesdropping

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on her messages was there you know if this is

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too much let me know but was there some issues

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going on or were you just you were just a curious

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person you know she would talk about people at

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work you know come home and then But then she

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would talk about him and her, she would lighten

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up and it'd be a little bit more storytelling

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than just your normal people at work. Right.

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And that's, it was like, Hmm, that's pretty interesting.

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You know? Oh, he does this. He does that. And

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I'm like, Hmm. Okay. So then I decided to look

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at her Facebook messenger and I'm like, uh -huh.

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Okay. It is funny because a few times throughout

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the conversations, he would go, hey, are you

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deleting these? She's like, oh, yeah, I'm deleting

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them. And she never did. But for me, I can honestly

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say that a black man was really, really a huge

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taboo for me because how I was raised. What I

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was told from my early adolescence all the way

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up into my early 20s was that Black men were

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bad. And my dad used to say things to me, certain

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things. Well, if you ever bring a Black man home,

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you will be disowned. Certain things. And I think

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as parents know and how they were raised in the

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era that they were raised in, try to instill

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those certain seeds into their children. oftentimes

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i think it kind of goes wrong i think it kind

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of does a spinoff into maybe certain unruly children

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like myself of oh what huh what you're telling

00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.460
me not to do this you're telling me that this

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is bad when my husband told me i was told a lot

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of things and me oh man we've been married for

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so long i've been fantasizing about this forever

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and i'm like wait a minute what that I openly

00:16:43.750 --> 00:16:46.789
had the opportunity. And it was like, cha -ching,

00:16:46.909 --> 00:16:49.710
gates open, key was unlocked. Oh, hell yeah,

00:16:49.809 --> 00:16:53.269
I'm jumping on this. Because I was so curious

00:16:53.269 --> 00:16:56.789
about it. I was always told certain things. So

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that was kind of a gateway opening for us to

00:17:00.970 --> 00:17:03.870
kind of move into this different type of lifestyle.

00:17:04.650 --> 00:17:08.829
Yes, we do swinger things, but we are now and

00:17:08.829 --> 00:17:13.129
have moved more so into the hot wife. situation

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that, you know, involves Brian and, you know,

00:17:16.549 --> 00:17:19.430
other, mostly like, I'm going to say like Splash

00:17:19.430 --> 00:17:22.910
and things like that, but it was kind of shunned

00:17:22.910 --> 00:17:26.549
in my younger years. So it was very, like I said,

00:17:26.589 --> 00:17:29.430
much of a taboo situation for me that I didn't,

00:17:29.430 --> 00:17:31.569
I didn't understand the attraction to lure, but

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I do now. I definitely do now. I bet you do.

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So what do you understand? I understand that.

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I mean, and I've always felt that people are

00:17:40.369 --> 00:17:44.910
people. I've always felt like, I mean, you cut

00:17:44.910 --> 00:17:47.930
me, you cut you, you cut anybody. We all bleed

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red. We're all the same. It doesn't matter. Crossed

00:17:52.509 --> 00:17:56.910
a lot of boundaries for me because that's what

00:17:56.910 --> 00:17:58.569
was kind of shoved down my throat a lot when

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I was in my adolescent ages in my 20s. But it

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opened the door to just make me feel free to

00:18:07.210 --> 00:18:11.970
let loose and be myself. And be who I actually

00:18:11.970 --> 00:18:16.049
I knew I was inside and just enjoy myself, enjoy

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people as a whole, like people are people. Good

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girl. Good girl. So does that does that kind

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of mean, you know, for you that you kind of felt

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like Black men were kind of like outside of that

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because your family and what their influence

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was? And then once you experience Black men completely

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all the way, right? Then you're like, oh, we're

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actually 100 percent. We're just all people.

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Is that kind of what I'm hearing you say, Lindsay?

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Oh, no, that's 100 percent exactly what I'm saying.

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I mean, the things and I love my dad. God rest

00:18:54.059 --> 00:18:57.119
his soul. He passed away a long time ago, but

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he was my daddy. I mean that there you cannot

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ever cross the love or the bonds between a daughter

00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:07.880
and a dad. I mean, never. And I can't fault.

00:19:08.410 --> 00:19:13.769
for what he did or said or, you know, how he

00:19:13.769 --> 00:19:15.910
tried to raise me. In his brain, he thought he

00:19:15.910 --> 00:19:18.049
was doing the right thing. But, I mean, ultimately,

00:19:18.230 --> 00:19:21.529
whenever, you know, I jumped and crossed over

00:19:21.529 --> 00:19:23.490
that bridge, I was like, holy crap, what the

00:19:23.490 --> 00:19:26.710
hell have I been missing? What the? Oh, my God.

00:19:27.230 --> 00:19:32.839
I mean, so it kind of, it was frustrating. But

00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:34.900
liberating at the same time, frustrating on the

00:19:34.900 --> 00:19:37.119
fact of that I had listened and heard to what

00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:40.119
my dad was trying to put into my brain and tell

00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:43.680
me certain things like, you know, if you ever

00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:46.099
bring a black man home, I will disown you or

00:19:46.099 --> 00:19:50.480
bizarre off the wall questions of if you were

00:19:50.480 --> 00:19:52.200
ever to be pregnant by a black man, would you

00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:53.880
come to me and ask for an abortion? I mean, it

00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:58.720
was very extreme in my household. And I. I remember

00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:01.140
whenever I first started talking to Brian, I

00:20:01.140 --> 00:20:04.460
told him this story and I told him, I have this

00:20:04.460 --> 00:20:10.279
huge attraction to Black men because of this.

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And it kind of comes back full circle. And it's

00:20:13.619 --> 00:20:17.940
almost even funny because I said, you know, in

00:20:17.940 --> 00:20:21.599
all reality, my dad would say all these things

00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:23.599
to me. I said, but do you know what the funniest

00:20:23.599 --> 00:20:27.799
crap of all this is? Literally. I said, guess

00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:30.619
what his parents' names were? He was like, what?

00:20:30.980 --> 00:20:33.920
His dad's name was fucking Leroy, and his mom's

00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:37.319
name was Esther. I said, holy shit, can you just

00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:40.420
say, like, how more of a different culture than

00:20:40.420 --> 00:20:44.339
ours is that? Why would you judge people like

00:20:44.339 --> 00:20:48.400
that? It blew me away. But it actually broke

00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:51.579
down so many barriers for me to be able to, like,

00:20:51.579 --> 00:20:54.259
kind of just be free and jump into this lifestyle.

00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:58.839
Good deal. Good deal. I guess you can continue.

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If Socrates and Siren, you have another question.

00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:09.500
Well, I have a question too, but go for it. I

00:21:09.500 --> 00:21:13.000
would say then, you know, once you experienced

00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:17.319
a Black man fully, like, what is the thing that

00:21:17.319 --> 00:21:21.039
stood out to you the most about their character

00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:25.549
and their personalities of that culture? you

00:21:25.549 --> 00:21:27.930
know it you know really stood out to you after

00:21:27.930 --> 00:21:30.630
you had that full experience and I can give you

00:21:30.630 --> 00:21:33.750
an example if you know unless you know I mean

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I think that I mean especially whenever if you

00:21:36.150 --> 00:21:38.470
know we're talking about Brian because he's just

00:21:38.470 --> 00:21:41.410
completely different of a person than anybody

00:21:41.410 --> 00:21:44.750
I've ever met so the personality the traits that

00:21:44.750 --> 00:21:48.490
stand out to me is being honest being true um

00:21:48.490 --> 00:21:51.829
standing up and being a man um making me feel

00:21:51.829 --> 00:21:56.559
safe all everything about When he and I are together,

00:21:56.759 --> 00:22:00.099
let's say if my husband's not there, he's just,

00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:04.380
his presence, just being there next to me makes

00:22:04.380 --> 00:22:08.420
me feel so comfortable in my own skin and makes

00:22:08.420 --> 00:22:11.380
me, like I said, all around feel very safe. Caring

00:22:11.380 --> 00:22:15.180
puts me up on a pedestal. Well, I asked for one

00:22:15.180 --> 00:22:18.839
and you gave me like 25. So go, Brian, go. I

00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:26.319
love it. Let me intervene right there. All right.

00:22:26.339 --> 00:22:29.380
What you just said, Lindsay, equates to what

00:22:29.380 --> 00:22:31.220
three things that I told you I was going to do,

00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:36.339
as well as Phillip. Respect, protect, and love.

00:22:36.460 --> 00:22:41.259
Correct? Yes. All right, then. So you just summed

00:22:41.259 --> 00:22:43.900
it all up. That's the reason I say respect, protect,

00:22:44.039 --> 00:22:46.819
and love. That's exactly what that means. That's

00:22:46.819 --> 00:22:48.480
exactly what that means. I couldn't have said

00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:51.559
it any better. I will shut up. You guys continue.

00:22:51.819 --> 00:22:54.799
Well, I mean, kind of going back to the theme

00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:58.220
of the podcast, the different things that we

00:22:58.220 --> 00:23:00.559
were going to discuss. I mean, jumping into claim

00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.619
trained and owned. I can kind of roll into that

00:23:03.619 --> 00:23:09.779
and talk about one of those. So, I mean, claimed.

00:23:10.019 --> 00:23:13.839
Right. It's a huge social interaction between

00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:17.279
Brian and myself and then also adding the dynamic

00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:21.019
of my husband also in there. I will tell you,

00:23:21.019 --> 00:23:24.440
this last splash that we went to, we had multiple

00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:26.380
couples that came up to us and asked us, how

00:23:26.380 --> 00:23:29.500
did you find Brian? Like, how did this happen?

00:23:29.819 --> 00:23:34.819
People were so in awe at our situation because

00:23:34.819 --> 00:23:38.549
essentially we are a throuple. And I told people,

00:23:38.630 --> 00:23:40.509
I said, you know, my husband signed me up for

00:23:40.509 --> 00:23:43.029
Telegram. And this is before we even knew what

00:23:43.029 --> 00:23:45.309
Splash was. He signed us up for it. We have a

00:23:45.309 --> 00:23:48.549
joint account. And I went into, and I'm not a

00:23:48.549 --> 00:23:51.009
huge talker into these different platforms. I'm

00:23:51.009 --> 00:23:53.910
not really a massive talker. Philip is the one

00:23:53.910 --> 00:23:56.390
that will talk for us if it's, you know, he's

00:23:56.390 --> 00:23:59.309
vetting people out or talking to people. But

00:23:59.309 --> 00:24:02.910
we went into, I went into Telegram and I saw

00:24:02.910 --> 00:24:07.039
this name, Brian Morgan. And like, wait a second,

00:24:07.220 --> 00:24:12.019
a real person's name? It wasn't like Dick Thunder

00:24:12.019 --> 00:24:16.299
55 or Nightfucker whatever. I mean, all these

00:24:16.299 --> 00:24:19.880
names, this is a real person. I mean, even if

00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:23.000
he had altered his name and his real name was

00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:27.500
like Brian Smith or something, the purpose was

00:24:27.500 --> 00:24:31.480
that caught my eye was the fact of that's a real

00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:35.200
person. Not somebody that's trying to be shady,

00:24:35.380 --> 00:24:38.319
just trying to send dick pics or, you know, get

00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:40.819
a bunch of pictures of me naked. This is a real

00:24:40.819 --> 00:24:45.299
person. And when I clicked on his photo, I was

00:24:45.299 --> 00:24:48.960
like, oh, oh, hello. This man is in the gym.

00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:52.900
Oh, great pants. Oh, God. You know, I mean, then

00:24:52.900 --> 00:24:55.180
it went from there. It went from there. And then

00:24:55.180 --> 00:24:58.859
talking, just understanding he's a real person.

00:24:59.059 --> 00:25:01.940
He's not trying to put on a persona. He's not

00:25:01.940 --> 00:25:07.259
trying to use a bunch of ridiculous, you know,

00:25:07.259 --> 00:25:11.559
persuasive conversation to be something he's

00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:16.220
not. You know, talking to tons of different guys,

00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:21.680
it's the typical same old crap. And Brian stood

00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:26.740
out from all those guys. What I noticed about

00:25:26.740 --> 00:25:31.089
Brian right away is that. She reminds me a lot,

00:25:31.150 --> 00:25:32.930
and even though he's only a few years older than

00:25:32.930 --> 00:25:34.710
me, he reminds me a lot of my father's generation.

00:25:35.549 --> 00:25:40.230
And I was raised by pimps and drug dealers. But

00:25:40.230 --> 00:25:42.950
these guys were sincere. Like, these generation

00:25:42.950 --> 00:25:47.029
of kids now, they're drug dealing mostly for

00:25:47.029 --> 00:25:50.049
the gram than anything else. But my parents were

00:25:50.049 --> 00:25:52.250
real people who tried to make a real living,

00:25:52.369 --> 00:25:56.650
couldn't, and did a real gangster living, and

00:25:56.650 --> 00:25:58.789
they were authentic about it. And so when you

00:25:58.789 --> 00:26:00.910
get into something authentically, whether it's

00:26:00.910 --> 00:26:04.430
legal or not, whatever it is, it shines through.

00:26:04.890 --> 00:26:09.930
And with Brian, he has been raised, he'll talk

00:26:09.930 --> 00:26:12.589
to you about his 80 -year -old dad who raised

00:26:12.589 --> 00:26:14.849
him with these principles since he was a child.

00:26:15.369 --> 00:26:17.809
And then his early experiences in the military,

00:26:18.089 --> 00:26:22.250
it's like what you're getting is a bull that

00:26:22.250 --> 00:26:25.430
was raised to be a bull. You know what I'm saying?

00:26:25.609 --> 00:26:28.180
Like, that's what I love about it. That's very

00:26:28.180 --> 00:26:31.640
true. That's very true. That's very true. I'm

00:26:31.640 --> 00:26:34.400
loving, I'm actually loving, like, just being

00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.980
quiet and listening to all this. Well, I mean,

00:26:38.079 --> 00:26:41.420
but here again, though, I always stress that

00:26:41.420 --> 00:26:47.539
to be that true quality bull, when you deal with

00:26:47.539 --> 00:26:52.450
a couple, the physical or sex is secondary. It

00:26:52.450 --> 00:26:55.329
is secondary. I don't even think about it. Even

00:26:55.329 --> 00:26:57.990
if there is a great connection, like there was

00:26:57.990 --> 00:26:59.849
a great connection with, you know, with myself

00:26:59.849 --> 00:27:03.109
and Lindsay. I mean, we were able to, we knew

00:27:03.109 --> 00:27:05.549
that there was a sexual chemistry there when

00:27:05.549 --> 00:27:07.829
we were texting back and forth. But at no time

00:27:07.829 --> 00:27:10.289
was I thinking about that. You know what I mean?

00:27:10.329 --> 00:27:15.349
I immediately respected her. I just wanted to,

00:27:15.349 --> 00:27:18.890
I wanted to get into more of the psychological

00:27:18.890 --> 00:27:22.529
and like intellectual, emotional. you know, aspects

00:27:22.529 --> 00:27:25.390
of, like, getting to know her, as well as Phillip.

00:27:25.490 --> 00:27:28.130
I wanted to know both of them. I knew I was going

00:27:28.130 --> 00:27:30.930
to mesh with him when she said he's a retired

00:27:30.930 --> 00:27:34.349
Marine. I mean, so I knew right then there was

00:27:34.349 --> 00:27:36.829
going to be a connection, you know. So that's

00:27:36.829 --> 00:27:38.890
what I'm trying to tell all the bulls out there.

00:27:39.089 --> 00:27:42.630
Get to know people first and foremost, all right?

00:27:43.029 --> 00:27:46.150
Don't call yourself a bull until you actually

00:27:46.150 --> 00:27:50.430
really know what it is to be one. You know, and

00:27:50.430 --> 00:27:54.230
yes, I was raised. I got my soon to be 90 year

00:27:54.230 --> 00:27:57.450
old dad in a couple of rooms down the hall right

00:27:57.450 --> 00:28:01.170
now. He might be listening to this, but he raised

00:28:01.170 --> 00:28:03.529
I mean, he raised me the right way. You know,

00:28:03.569 --> 00:28:05.970
he raised me the right way. And yes, when I call

00:28:05.970 --> 00:28:09.130
myself a bull, you are dealing with a true bull.

00:28:09.410 --> 00:28:12.769
But again, I'm going to be quiet. Keep going.

00:28:12.890 --> 00:28:17.740
So going back to. being claimed and describing

00:28:17.740 --> 00:28:20.579
what does that mean to be claimed. Having the

00:28:20.579 --> 00:28:23.579
interaction between the three of us, completely

00:28:23.579 --> 00:28:27.039
making a connection with three different people

00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:29.880
can be difficult unless you find the right personalities

00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.420
that are just so willing and ready to just let

00:28:33.420 --> 00:28:37.460
things go and just be. We have intermatched the

00:28:37.460 --> 00:28:39.720
three of us to go out and do things. I mean,

00:28:39.740 --> 00:28:42.500
everything from we go out to dinner, we just

00:28:42.500 --> 00:28:45.339
sit there and talk. We've done certain things

00:28:45.339 --> 00:28:49.079
like axe throwing. We've gone to Dave and Buster's.

00:28:49.779 --> 00:28:52.720
We've even gone to an NBA game in Charlotte around

00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:57.880
Christmas time. And, you know, even to the extent

00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:00.259
of we've gone to Splash the last two years together,

00:29:00.619 --> 00:29:04.440
making a connection is a huge thing. And I think

00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:06.920
that that is so important when it comes to claiming

00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:09.319
because you're not only claiming a female, you're

00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:11.819
also claiming a husband whenever you come into

00:29:11.819 --> 00:29:14.869
this situation. See, that's a huge deal. You

00:29:14.869 --> 00:29:17.569
have to understand, it's a package deal. And

00:29:17.569 --> 00:29:20.470
respect is a huge factor. Brian, you've always

00:29:20.470 --> 00:29:25.769
respected us, like above and beyond. I can remember

00:29:25.769 --> 00:29:29.009
throwing a fit in the hotel rooms in the morning

00:29:29.009 --> 00:29:31.650
time. He's like, yeah, you got to, look, take

00:29:31.650 --> 00:29:33.769
it on back to the house. I'm like, no. You're

00:29:33.769 --> 00:29:35.829
like, you are going back to the house. You're

00:29:35.829 --> 00:29:37.390
going to be there on time. You're not going to

00:29:37.390 --> 00:29:42.359
disrespect your family. for philip that's a huge

00:29:42.359 --> 00:29:46.799
thing for him because he knows sorry i think

00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.019
i don't mean to cut y 'all but i think we messed

00:29:49.019 --> 00:29:52.420
that up one time and it bothered it bothered

00:29:52.420 --> 00:29:54.779
me on the way home and i said to myself that

00:29:54.779 --> 00:29:57.319
would never happen again it would never happen

00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:01.839
again all right yeah if if if if um i mean when

00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:04.660
she's when she's when it's time for her to go

00:30:04.660 --> 00:30:08.700
home and and and be reclaimed by him I want him

00:30:08.700 --> 00:30:12.200
to be like, okay, she was back home 15 minutes

00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.039
prior to the time that Brian said. You know,

00:30:15.059 --> 00:30:18.019
so there's absolutely no problems between he

00:30:18.019 --> 00:30:20.619
and I. And, you know, when I come down there

00:30:20.619 --> 00:30:22.839
again and the three of us all together at dinner,

00:30:22.980 --> 00:30:26.299
you know, everything is okay. So that's here

00:30:26.299 --> 00:30:29.480
again. That's that process that I'm talking about

00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:34.579
of not, you know, disrespecting the husband any

00:30:34.579 --> 00:30:37.819
whatsoever. Always putting, always knowing that,

00:30:37.819 --> 00:30:41.339
you know, he's the one that can say, okay, this

00:30:41.339 --> 00:30:44.059
is over at any given time. You know what I mean?

00:30:44.220 --> 00:30:46.680
He can just say that that's over, and I don't

00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:50.119
want that to happen. So, you know, again, apologies

00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:52.960
to you, Phillip, for that one time where we messed

00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.660
it up, and it'll never happen again. No, that's

00:30:56.660 --> 00:30:58.720
okay. No, I understand. We talked about it and

00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:02.480
worked it out. We just said, you know, whatever

00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:05.849
it was, like, hey, be home by 11. She wasn't.

00:31:05.849 --> 00:31:08.690
And of course, that leaves me going, OK, what?

00:31:08.809 --> 00:31:12.250
You just blow me off. But then moving forward

00:31:12.250 --> 00:31:16.109
into like the train section, you know, I really

00:31:16.109 --> 00:31:19.390
feel like that the claim train and owned, they're

00:31:19.390 --> 00:31:23.309
so connected. And sometimes the lines are blurred

00:31:23.309 --> 00:31:27.029
a little bit as far as the training portion of

00:31:27.029 --> 00:31:31.430
being in this relationship. I will tell you,

00:31:31.430 --> 00:31:34.680
the train portion is never going to stop. It's

00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.039
always evolving. As humans, we are always evolving

00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.599
all the damn time. Because if we don't evolve,

00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.440
we're stagnant. Things are boring. Some things

00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:49.200
in what we've done, the examples I can give of

00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:52.259
how I've been trained by Brian. So whenever we

00:31:52.259 --> 00:31:55.259
first started talking and we started getting

00:31:55.259 --> 00:31:58.900
into some deeper conversations, Brian would ask

00:31:58.900 --> 00:32:01.720
me certain questions. And he would flat out say,

00:32:01.839 --> 00:32:04.240
be honest with me. come on, give me an answer

00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.960
quick, fast, quick, quick. And I was nervous.

00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:12.299
I would hesitate. I was so wrapped up in, oh

00:32:12.299 --> 00:32:14.180
my God, am I giving the right answer? Is this

00:32:14.180 --> 00:32:16.220
what he wants to hear? And it would mess with

00:32:16.220 --> 00:32:18.400
my head because I felt like, oh my God, I'm going

00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:21.279
to be judged for the answer I'm giving. And then

00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.859
once I kind of let that go, because he would

00:32:24.859 --> 00:32:26.900
fly out and say, look, you can't be honest with

00:32:26.900 --> 00:32:29.579
me. You're wasting my time. Like, it's a wrap.

00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:34.410
And so. Then when I let that go and I became

00:32:34.410 --> 00:32:39.230
just kind of unleashed in that moment and I did

00:32:39.230 --> 00:32:41.930
it, I just started dumping whatever came to my

00:32:41.930 --> 00:32:44.289
brain and dumped out of my mouth. And it is what

00:32:44.289 --> 00:32:47.410
it is. I never felt judged. I never felt weird.

00:32:47.849 --> 00:32:52.109
I always felt like my responses were my responses

00:32:52.109 --> 00:32:55.650
and my responses were definitely accepted, which.

00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.400
was a huge thing for me because I feel like that

00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.559
my interactions in the past, being in the lifestyle,

00:33:00.700 --> 00:33:03.579
I've been judged by people or I've been told,

00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:07.019
ugh, that's stupid. That's dumb. So that was

00:33:07.019 --> 00:33:10.079
a huge moment for me when it came to being trained.

00:33:10.380 --> 00:33:16.700
Another thing for us was definitely I didn't

00:33:16.700 --> 00:33:19.920
know a lot of rules when it came to bulls prior

00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:24.059
to Brian. I didn't understand the different etiquettes,

00:33:24.140 --> 00:33:26.339
the different things that are required. wired

00:33:26.339 --> 00:33:30.779
um that's very much based upon respect you know

00:33:30.779 --> 00:33:34.339
so for example like understanding that if we

00:33:34.339 --> 00:33:36.720
are an event and all three of us were together

00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:40.460
it's a huge thing that men are supposed to come

00:33:40.460 --> 00:33:42.400
up and talk to philip and brett first before

00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.779
they come and talk to me that's a huge thing

00:33:44.779 --> 00:33:48.240
it's kind of like this you know evolving of me

00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:52.039
being trained um And also, like I said before,

00:33:52.259 --> 00:33:55.039
education, learning and understanding where Brian

00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.720
has been, where he's gone, who he is, different

00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.920
roles that people have been and played. The different

00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.039
rules, for example, if we were at an event, because

00:34:05.039 --> 00:34:07.579
like I said, I've never really experienced some

00:34:07.579 --> 00:34:10.280
of these things. So understanding that if a man

00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:14.659
were to approach us, the whole purpose was for

00:34:14.659 --> 00:34:18.360
them to talk to Philip and also to Brian first

00:34:18.360 --> 00:34:21.369
before they spoke to me. So that was a whole

00:34:21.369 --> 00:34:24.230
like educational experience for me as well. I've

00:34:24.230 --> 00:34:28.269
mentioned before being trained is a continuous

00:34:28.269 --> 00:34:34.809
movement and evolving in our relationship. I've

00:34:34.809 --> 00:34:37.610
constantly like started reading books, trying

00:34:37.610 --> 00:34:39.710
to figure out different things and trying to

00:34:39.710 --> 00:34:43.150
understand the different roles that Brian has.

00:34:44.530 --> 00:34:47.670
participated in such as when i first met brian

00:34:47.670 --> 00:34:49.789
i didn't know what a cuckold was i didn't know

00:34:49.789 --> 00:34:54.070
about that scenario so i continuously have questions

00:34:54.070 --> 00:34:58.909
i'm asking certain things um he brings a lot

00:34:58.909 --> 00:35:01.650
of enlightenment into the different varieties

00:35:01.650 --> 00:35:04.670
and aspects of the slice style for me another

00:35:04.670 --> 00:35:09.110
kind of hardcore thing that was very much trained

00:35:09.110 --> 00:35:13.820
for me was um before we went to splash um Brian

00:35:13.820 --> 00:35:17.920
wanted me to purchase a collar. He said, hey,

00:35:18.059 --> 00:35:21.159
he was like, I want you to purchase a collar,

00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:23.280
something that you like, something that's comfortable

00:35:23.280 --> 00:35:26.559
for you. But I want you to like it. I want you

00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:28.900
to get a feel for what it is, but you're going

00:35:28.900 --> 00:35:32.000
to purchase it. I bought it. It was sent to my

00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:35.739
house. I was explicitly told, do not open that

00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:38.679
package. Do not look at it. And don't you dare

00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:42.360
touch it. Oh, man, this was new. This was completely

00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:46.880
new for me. And so whenever we met up, I ended

00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.239
up handing over the box to him, hadn't seen it

00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.679
at all. It was very interesting to learn all

00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.280
these different roles, to be trained into this

00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:59.320
position, I guess, with him. Lindsay, can I go

00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:04.539
back to the splash part? How does it feel to

00:36:04.539 --> 00:36:07.630
have, well, first I'll ask you. Do you look at

00:36:07.630 --> 00:36:10.949
it as layers that kind of have to you have to

00:36:10.949 --> 00:36:14.349
overcome or do you look at it as two layers of

00:36:14.349 --> 00:36:17.389
protection? I think that's a good question. Well,

00:36:17.469 --> 00:36:19.590
the guys have to overcome the layers that the

00:36:19.590 --> 00:36:21.710
guys have to overcome to get to her. That was

00:36:21.710 --> 00:36:24.989
your ask. I just wanted to feminize that. But

00:36:24.989 --> 00:36:28.409
I feel like it's kind of both. I mean, I feel

00:36:28.409 --> 00:36:32.579
like it's both. I feel like that. it's definitely

00:36:32.579 --> 00:36:35.400
a like a layer of protection for myself not and

00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.239
being new because Brian knew that we were new

00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.920
I don't know I mean I it's very much been a you

00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:45.159
were new you were new but you and Phillip had

00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:48.079
already participated in the vanilla lifestyle

00:36:48.079 --> 00:36:52.440
before you know what I mean so coming over so

00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:55.139
coming over to the hot wife lifestyle there yes

00:36:55.139 --> 00:36:57.119
there were certain things that you needed to

00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:02.239
to to know to learn And as far as Splash, nephew,

00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:08.619
yeah, it is both. It is both. Even though Phillip

00:37:08.619 --> 00:37:18.019
was 120 % trusting in me, you know, to find and

00:37:18.019 --> 00:37:20.719
pick out quality guys for her to play with or

00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:24.800
females, he knew that I was going to still come

00:37:24.800 --> 00:37:28.070
to him or at least give him the eye. you know,

00:37:28.130 --> 00:37:32.130
to, like, okay, is this okay? You know, so, yes,

00:37:32.210 --> 00:37:37.369
it does go through both of us. And, yes, we are

00:37:37.369 --> 00:37:41.849
there as, of course, two protectors. Because

00:37:41.849 --> 00:37:45.409
not one time when she played did I go up, like,

00:37:45.469 --> 00:37:48.329
upstairs to check on her. Phillip did, you know,

00:37:48.449 --> 00:37:52.329
which I knew he was going to do. So, you know,

00:37:52.349 --> 00:37:56.619
yeah, it is both. It is both. As far as the training

00:37:56.619 --> 00:38:00.360
is concerned, Lindsey was telling you how the

00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:05.920
mind training went. But as far as the physical,

00:38:06.099 --> 00:38:09.900
yeah, as far as the physical, now that was something

00:38:09.900 --> 00:38:14.079
else. Because I did, when we finally did get

00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:19.039
together, here again, I remember what my father

00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.400
said. You don't give them everything on the first

00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:25.519
shot. All right. So I opened up Pandora's box,

00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:28.659
but I only I only cracked it. I didn't open their

00:38:28.659 --> 00:38:33.219
ball all the way. And that has the physical has

00:38:33.219 --> 00:38:37.380
evolved over time. I knew that that Lindsay wanted

00:38:37.380 --> 00:38:41.239
somebody who was very, very dominant. I have

00:38:41.239 --> 00:38:44.219
been in that dominant world before. And to tell

00:38:44.219 --> 00:38:46.300
you the truth, I did let her know. But I was

00:38:46.300 --> 00:38:50.280
like, I don't want to see that version of me

00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:55.219
at first. And I held it back and I held it back

00:38:55.219 --> 00:39:00.500
for damn near two years until what? Monday? Until

00:39:00.500 --> 00:39:06.179
Monday? She got a taste of it Monday. And well,

00:39:06.179 --> 00:39:10.079
I'll let you go ahead and finish that. But that

00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:14.039
in itself, I mean, we've gone down the road from

00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:18.280
everything from soft and sensual to talking to,

00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:22.119
you know, looking at each other to. you know

00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:26.059
even exploit into a kink a kink that we both

00:39:26.059 --> 00:39:28.599
very much enjoy that a lot of people don't maybe

00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:32.760
fully accept or understand um but I will say

00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:36.360
my favorite moment ever and ever is when I came

00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.780
home and I'm running home to tell my husband

00:39:38.780 --> 00:39:41.460
I'm like oh my god he did this blah blah blah

00:39:41.460 --> 00:39:44.480
and my husband goes oh are you talking about

00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:48.000
this I was like wait a second what was it that

00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:51.400
you literally calling brian on the phone to be

00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.500
like oh my now knowing that my husband and brian

00:39:55.500 --> 00:39:59.039
are essentially the same damn person and they

00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.139
watch the same freaking damn porn the first porn

00:40:02.139 --> 00:40:05.300
ever in their entire lives was the same one and

00:40:05.300 --> 00:40:07.719
they were like older women are super hot and

00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.440
i'm like we're like bopping about the movie like

00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:12.719
scene by scene knowing exactly what happened

00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.849
she still hasn't seen the movie oh completely

00:40:15.849 --> 00:40:19.550
blew me away I'm like what is going on like my

00:40:19.550 --> 00:40:23.369
head is spinning to the next time I know that

00:40:23.369 --> 00:40:27.829
we met in another town um and it was like the

00:40:27.829 --> 00:40:31.250
air quotes of we're going for lunch right and

00:40:31.250 --> 00:40:35.329
it was like I walk in and I'm a chatty Kathy

00:40:35.329 --> 00:40:38.289
I'm like there's no conversation it's like I

00:40:38.289 --> 00:40:43.469
was like oh god what is this I Had not seen that

00:40:43.469 --> 00:40:45.989
side of him either. And then, like he mentioned,

00:40:46.070 --> 00:40:49.210
like this past Monday was a completely different

00:40:49.210 --> 00:40:51.969
side as well. Very dominant. I was like, oh,

00:40:52.010 --> 00:40:54.570
you're pulling my hair. Like, oh, let's do this.

00:40:54.730 --> 00:40:59.349
I think that those are some very amazing physical

00:40:59.349 --> 00:41:02.969
aspects about this lifestyle that can be equated

00:41:02.969 --> 00:41:05.769
to as being trained. But also, I think it kind

00:41:05.769 --> 00:41:08.789
of also merges very closely into being owned

00:41:08.789 --> 00:41:11.820
as well. Because when you are providing that

00:41:11.820 --> 00:41:14.719
experience for somebody and you desire to provide

00:41:14.719 --> 00:41:18.679
a different experience to keep it, like I mentioned

00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.460
before, not stagnant, you know, change it up.

00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:24.239
That's where it comes in and rolls into as being

00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:27.000
owned. Because in our situation, Brian has a

00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:29.159
desire to bring those different things to the

00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:31.440
table, to show me something different, to show

00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:34.460
me all of these different sides of him. He keeps

00:41:34.460 --> 00:41:37.699
me guessing all the damn time. I know that when

00:41:37.699 --> 00:41:40.719
we were at Splash, we did another podcast. I

00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:44.699
know my husband threw me under the bus and made

00:41:44.699 --> 00:41:46.360
it very clear. He said, that's the one thing

00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.019
that I actually love about Brian. 100 % I love

00:41:49.019 --> 00:41:52.800
about Brian is he's like, he keeps Lindsay guessing

00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:56.500
every damn time. He keeps her in a state, a moment

00:41:56.500 --> 00:41:59.219
of, she doesn't know what's going to happen next.

00:41:59.619 --> 00:42:02.400
She's questioning things. She doesn't understand

00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.820
things, but she knows that she's supposed to

00:42:04.820 --> 00:42:08.440
be. Maybe in this space and not question or ask,

00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:10.360
she does know her place because she goes to it,

00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.239
right? I fucking love it. Rolling to the owned

00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:17.440
portion, I mean, definitely things have moved

00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:19.300
into a different direction. I mean, this year

00:42:19.300 --> 00:42:22.639
at Splash, before Splash, I messaged Brian. I

00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:25.840
said, hey, I said, wow. So moving into the owned

00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:31.880
portion of the claimed, trained, and owned, I

00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:36.289
will tell you that Whenever we were going to

00:42:36.289 --> 00:42:39.389
Splash that Brian told me, he was like, well,

00:42:39.530 --> 00:42:41.550
actually, I reached out to him and I asked him,

00:42:41.590 --> 00:42:44.130
what outfit should I wear? He picked out all

00:42:44.130 --> 00:42:46.030
of my outfits. He told me, I need you to wear

00:42:46.030 --> 00:42:49.230
this on this day, this on this day. And so that

00:42:49.230 --> 00:42:55.710
made me realize that I had a very spot close

00:42:55.710 --> 00:43:00.869
in his heart and I needed to exemplify a certain

00:43:00.869 --> 00:43:05.170
presence and I needed to mirror. What he saw

00:43:05.170 --> 00:43:07.449
in himself. He picked out all of my outfits.

00:43:07.630 --> 00:43:10.610
Also on top of that, the other portion of owned

00:43:10.610 --> 00:43:12.909
was when he placed the collar around my neck.

00:43:13.110 --> 00:43:14.889
He flat out told me I was not allowed to touch

00:43:14.889 --> 00:43:17.170
it. I couldn't put it on. I couldn't take it

00:43:17.170 --> 00:43:20.849
off. That very much said, here's this portion

00:43:20.849 --> 00:43:24.210
of you that I own. And everyone else here at

00:43:24.210 --> 00:43:26.409
Splash and everyone around us will know that.

00:43:27.289 --> 00:43:29.849
And one of the best parts about it was the fact

00:43:29.849 --> 00:43:31.969
that my husband's here and he's watching this

00:43:31.969 --> 00:43:36.519
and he's supporting it. I can't even describe

00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.480
to other people how that feels. One of the most

00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:43.860
amazing things about being in this relationship

00:43:43.860 --> 00:43:49.659
and having a boyfriend in this lifestyle and

00:43:49.659 --> 00:43:53.019
that, you know, as Brian has mentioned and I've

00:43:53.019 --> 00:43:55.019
mentioned, as Philip has mentioned, we are a

00:43:55.019 --> 00:43:58.500
throuple. The most amazing part about all of

00:43:58.500 --> 00:44:01.599
this is the fact of the exchange of trust between

00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:05.750
the two of them. That's paramount. That's huge.

00:44:07.550 --> 00:44:11.630
To have a person that's been married to me for

00:44:11.630 --> 00:44:15.829
now 24 years to release and relinquish the trust

00:44:15.829 --> 00:44:18.769
and give it over to somebody that he's allowed

00:44:18.769 --> 00:44:22.809
to come into our life to say, I trust you. I

00:44:22.809 --> 00:44:25.050
give everything up and I'm good with what you're

00:44:25.050 --> 00:44:29.150
saying. So whenever we were a slash, the ultimate,

00:44:29.150 --> 00:44:32.460
I think that sealed the deal that was just. like

00:44:32.460 --> 00:44:35.159
I said, paramount was that anybody that would

00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:38.159
come up to us and talk to us, anybody they went

00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.820
to go off to play with had to have the ultimate

00:44:41.820 --> 00:44:44.400
seal of the deal, Brian's permission. He had

00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:49.920
the end decision. And he was the one that either

00:44:49.920 --> 00:44:52.940
said yay or nay. That was huge. That was huge

00:44:52.940 --> 00:44:58.400
for me. I really felt that that just kind of

00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.059
completed the three of us together because that.

00:45:01.500 --> 00:45:03.960
There was no longer a moment of, does anybody

00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:06.719
trust anybody? Everything was just dropped down,

00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:10.920
and it was great. That was the correlation of

00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.619
the thruple, I guess. That kind of put the stamp

00:45:14.619 --> 00:45:21.239
on it, Nephew and Siren. When we say own, it's

00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.639
claim the mind, train the body, and own the soul.

00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:28.880
That means your heart is involved now. And Splash

00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:35.059
Mocha was just as much a correlation or baptism

00:45:35.059 --> 00:45:39.059
for me as it was Phillip and Lindsey. Because

00:45:39.059 --> 00:45:42.679
I went there thinking that, OK, if I can be that

00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.760
ultimate boyfriend and kind of like submit myself,

00:45:47.139 --> 00:45:49.079
you know, because usually at Splash, I am all

00:45:49.079 --> 00:45:52.460
over the place. I'm in and out of rooms for three

00:45:52.460 --> 00:45:56.159
or four days. But I think I played, what, two?

00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:59.039
maybe three times, tops. I mean, that was it.

00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:01.360
That was it. And that was all that I wanted.

00:46:01.579 --> 00:46:04.860
It was about her. Everything was about her. When

00:46:04.860 --> 00:46:07.659
I put that collar on her, that was saying that,

00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:13.940
okay, my heart is yours. My heart is yours. And

00:46:13.940 --> 00:46:19.380
I want you to come here and understand that I

00:46:19.380 --> 00:46:22.480
want you to seek out quality, quality gentlemen

00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:26.309
to play with. And as well as, you know, if you

00:46:26.309 --> 00:46:29.610
found a female that you like and she did, you

00:46:29.610 --> 00:46:33.250
know, direct to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you did. And

00:46:33.250 --> 00:46:35.789
as far as like myself and myself and Phillip,

00:46:35.889 --> 00:46:40.269
we had the utmost of respect and trust amongst

00:46:40.269 --> 00:46:44.909
one another. I mean, you had husbands going to

00:46:44.909 --> 00:46:47.809
him, asking him questions about, you know, our

00:46:47.809 --> 00:46:50.449
dynamic and want to talk to him about certain

00:46:50.449 --> 00:46:53.130
things as well as, you know, one's coming up

00:46:53.130 --> 00:46:55.969
to me. So here again, when you talk about owning,

00:46:56.130 --> 00:46:59.510
you're not just owning, you know, everybody thinks,

00:46:59.570 --> 00:47:01.989
oh, wait, do you own the pussy? This is not about

00:47:01.989 --> 00:47:06.070
that one bit. I can't stress that. I can't stress

00:47:06.070 --> 00:47:09.750
that more. But this is about you, you, the three

00:47:09.750 --> 00:47:12.929
of you saying we are as special to each other

00:47:12.929 --> 00:47:16.389
as they come. We don't care about what other

00:47:16.389 --> 00:47:19.929
people think. You know, we are a throuple. Yeah,

00:47:20.030 --> 00:47:22.530
we are a throuple. Although I don't live there

00:47:22.530 --> 00:47:25.739
or anything like that. But they know that they

00:47:25.739 --> 00:47:29.239
can call on me at any time of the night and I

00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:31.420
will jump in my car and I'll be there if they

00:47:31.420 --> 00:47:37.400
need me. Wow. Yeah, that's just it. And that's

00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:40.719
what I mean by, you know, owning the soul. But

00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:44.219
that sums up plain trying and own. For the ones

00:47:44.219 --> 00:47:45.699
who think that it meant something, you know,

00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:48.340
kind of like derogatory or was it something where

00:47:48.340 --> 00:47:50.219
I'm talking down, like I'm talking to a cook

00:47:50.219 --> 00:47:51.599
or something like that? Hell no, it was Philbin,

00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.320
not a cook. I just grown ass man. Don't believe

00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.980
this damn. Don't believe this damn mic. Believe

00:47:55.980 --> 00:47:59.679
me. All right. It interwoven. It's, it's hard

00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.840
to explain because a lot of people cannot find

00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.139
that happy medium. I mean, I will say before

00:48:06.139 --> 00:48:08.880
we met Brian, so, but I tried to find a unicorn.

00:48:08.940 --> 00:48:12.300
We tried to jump down that Avenue. We just couldn't,

00:48:12.300 --> 00:48:16.199
we had experienced certain women, but when they

00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.739
were brought into our dynamic, unfortunately.

00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:24.380
Those women were, I'm not trying to sound negative,

00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.579
but they were very selfish. It was all about

00:48:26.579 --> 00:48:31.599
them, all about them. But this dynamic isn't.

00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:36.519
This dynamic is all of us are very in tuned with

00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:40.039
each other's needs and thoughts. And if somebody

00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:43.599
is upset or frustrated, we reach, it's we are

00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:47.500
together, all together as three people. So there's

00:48:47.500 --> 00:48:53.019
a polyamorous element to this. Right, guys? True.

00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:56.679
Very true. Very true. Very true. And this is

00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:59.300
what, in my opinion, this is what the Bull experience

00:48:59.300 --> 00:49:02.880
is really, this is what it really is all about.

00:49:03.579 --> 00:49:06.139
This, I mean, summed up, this is what we have.

00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:09.300
This is the Bull experience. And, you know, for

00:49:09.300 --> 00:49:13.340
the guys who just want to be the typical BBC

00:49:13.340 --> 00:49:16.739
Bull, that's fine. That is fine. But I'm telling

00:49:16.739 --> 00:49:21.260
you right now, as you evolve, In this life, you

00:49:21.260 --> 00:49:24.400
will find that that is going to get old quickly

00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:28.599
and you're going to want to find your queen.

00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:32.639
And regardless if your queen, you know, is married

00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:37.940
or is single, you can find it. You can find that

00:49:37.940 --> 00:49:42.340
couple and bond with them and you can have a

00:49:42.340 --> 00:49:45.960
wonderful life in this life, you know, as we

00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.550
are right now. And we just... We're just scratching

00:49:48.550 --> 00:49:52.230
the surface. We have begun our journey. We're

00:49:52.230 --> 00:49:54.789
just scratching the surface. So, you know, whatever

00:49:54.789 --> 00:49:59.230
is coming to us, you know, later on in life,

00:49:59.449 --> 00:50:03.409
I'm not afraid of. I will tell you that you referenced

00:50:03.409 --> 00:50:09.550
a polyamorous lifestyle. The best moment of us

00:50:09.550 --> 00:50:12.849
being all together was, I had mentioned before

00:50:12.849 --> 00:50:15.510
that we've gone to a professional basketball

00:50:15.510 --> 00:50:18.559
game in Charlotte. The best moment in my damn

00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:21.320
life was walking down the street of Charlotte,

00:50:21.420 --> 00:50:24.900
holding the hand of my husband and holding the

00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:28.659
hand of Brian, walking into a stadium, going

00:50:28.659 --> 00:50:30.900
through the ticket thing, going through this

00:50:30.900 --> 00:50:32.539
and going through that. People looking at us

00:50:32.539 --> 00:50:35.760
like, wait, what the? Hang on. Hang on. I think

00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:40.119
I know what this is. But I'm not. Holy crap.

00:50:40.219 --> 00:50:42.880
The eyeballs and the looks. And all I could think

00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.420
inside of my head was. Y 'all bitches don't know,

00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:47.639
but I just won the fucking lottery. I'm sure

00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:53.820
y 'all super jealous. Right? You don't see one

00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:57.239
woman with two men very often. It's usually,

00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:00.460
you know, when you see it, it's a man with two

00:51:00.460 --> 00:51:03.659
women. So you did hit the fucking lottery, girl.

00:51:04.019 --> 00:51:08.059
I mean, holy crap. We went into a restaurant

00:51:08.059 --> 00:51:13.760
and we ate breakfast. The waiter. A black dude.

00:51:14.380 --> 00:51:17.519
He's looking at me and he's looking at us because

00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:19.500
I'm so, of course, Lindsey sitting beside me

00:51:19.500 --> 00:51:21.420
and Phillip's in front of us, you know, on the

00:51:21.420 --> 00:51:24.219
other side. And this dude has the biggest damn

00:51:24.219 --> 00:51:29.619
Cheshire Cat grin, shitting ass grin on his face

00:51:29.619 --> 00:51:34.000
because he knows exactly. He had read about it,

00:51:34.019 --> 00:51:36.420
but he had never seen it. But then he saw it

00:51:36.420 --> 00:51:39.420
and I'm like, brother, you having a good day?

00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:43.039
And he was like, yeah, man, your butt. He looked

00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:44.699
at me. He was like, you're having a battle. And

00:51:44.699 --> 00:51:46.500
then he hit me on the dog on all Herman. I knew

00:51:46.500 --> 00:51:48.920
exactly what he meant. I knew exactly what he

00:51:48.920 --> 00:51:50.880
meant. You know, you should have seen the looks

00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:54.900
that, that solidified also. I mean, really, you

00:51:54.900 --> 00:51:57.699
know, like I said before, wherever we're going,

00:51:57.820 --> 00:51:59.440
it's, it's, it's going to be a hell of a ride.

00:52:00.019 --> 00:52:01.460
It's going to be a hell of a ride. Cause like

00:52:01.460 --> 00:52:03.559
I said, we're just getting started. I think,

00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:08.340
I think we, we need to do a part two because

00:52:08.340 --> 00:52:12.389
the more I'm listening to this, No, seriously,

00:52:12.550 --> 00:52:15.809
this goes deeper than I even imagined. And I

00:52:15.809 --> 00:52:18.929
have, when it comes to things like this, I can

00:52:18.929 --> 00:52:22.489
go pretty deep. So I think we should do a part

00:52:22.489 --> 00:52:26.369
two because I want to start getting into, you

00:52:26.369 --> 00:52:30.289
know, Phillip has been pretty quiet in this,

00:52:30.369 --> 00:52:32.210
but I know he's got some great things to say

00:52:32.210 --> 00:52:34.550
because we've heard him talk about this before.

00:52:35.110 --> 00:52:38.190
Yeah, questions for him. And I've got questions

00:52:38.190 --> 00:52:42.519
about, you know, just. how Lindsay felt in certain

00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.860
scenarios that I saw her in. So, you know, I

00:52:45.860 --> 00:52:48.059
think in the interest of time, maybe we can,

00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:50.340
I don't know if we want to give any kind of closing

00:52:50.340 --> 00:52:53.000
statements and, and then I think we should do

00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.099
a part two guys. Yeah, we can do it. I'm off.

00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:59.500
I'm all for it. I'm all for it. Well, I mean,

00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:02.300
you know, if, if this is the end for the night,

00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:04.539
then it's, it's been a great podcast. It really

00:53:04.539 --> 00:53:07.719
has. I have, uh, I've enjoyed, I really have

00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:10.630
enjoyed, um, you know philip and lindsey really

00:53:10.630 --> 00:53:13.670
didn't get a chance to to tell their whole story

00:53:13.670 --> 00:53:16.510
um you know how they got into the life and everything

00:53:16.510 --> 00:53:18.510
and then trying you know transitioning over to

00:53:18.510 --> 00:53:23.130
this to this world um so you know hell now now

00:53:23.130 --> 00:53:31.409
i got questions i got questions now this is how

00:53:31.409 --> 00:53:33.989
we keep the people coming back for more right

00:53:34.670 --> 00:53:38.110
We could talk for three, four hours, but, you

00:53:38.110 --> 00:53:42.230
know, stay tuned until next time. This is what

00:53:42.230 --> 00:53:44.289
we want. This is what we want. This is what we

00:53:44.289 --> 00:53:46.170
want. So I'm assuming that everybody's content

00:53:46.170 --> 00:53:49.469
for tonight. Yep. Yeah. We'll do a part two.

00:53:49.650 --> 00:53:52.130
Yep. I mean, I have a million questions. That's

00:53:52.130 --> 00:53:57.849
why. I knew that if I start asking one, it's

00:53:57.849 --> 00:54:00.289
going to end up in another. And we want to keep

00:54:00.289 --> 00:54:03.909
these. Within the hour, you can do a part two.

00:54:04.030 --> 00:54:06.409
And that's why you're Socrates. That's why you're

00:54:06.409 --> 00:54:09.369
Socrates. That's a squirrel jumping down that

00:54:09.369 --> 00:54:11.489
hole. You just keep going and going and going.

00:54:15.550 --> 00:54:19.130
Siren, you got anything to add? No, it's been

00:54:19.130 --> 00:54:21.670
great. Yeah, I got a lot of questions. And what

00:54:21.670 --> 00:54:25.010
we'll probably do is listen to this again, and

00:54:25.010 --> 00:54:26.449
then I'll probably write the questions down.

00:54:26.510 --> 00:54:28.889
Because I didn't want to interrupt you, but...

00:54:29.130 --> 00:54:31.329
Every five minutes, I had a question. So I'm

00:54:31.329 --> 00:54:37.289
like, who's going to let me talk? Well, then

00:54:37.289 --> 00:54:40.190
I guess you can cue that music, nephew, and we

00:54:40.190 --> 00:54:45.369
will close it out. Ladies and gentlemen, thank

00:54:45.369 --> 00:54:51.329
you for sitting in on another informative podcast

00:54:51.329 --> 00:54:55.150
from the Bull Brotherhood. I would like to thank

00:54:55.150 --> 00:54:58.670
my family, Phillip and Lindsey. for giving their

00:54:58.670 --> 00:55:02.369
insight tonight, as well as my other family,

00:55:02.510 --> 00:55:07.369
Siren and Socrates, who are just my heart. I

00:55:07.369 --> 00:55:09.909
mean, this is a very, very special podcast, and

00:55:09.909 --> 00:55:12.369
we will do part two another time very, very soon.

00:55:12.690 --> 00:55:15.829
For everybody, I'm the Sigma Male himself, Brian

00:55:15.829 --> 00:55:19.030
Morgan. And as for the brothers in the brotherhood,

00:55:19.210 --> 00:55:24.130
good night. For my ladies, good morning. We'll

00:55:24.130 --> 00:55:36.099
see you. Bye -bye. and train the body on the

00:55:36.099 --> 00:55:39.079
soul. Deep connections build on trust. That's

00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:42.179
how I go from conversations to the passion that

00:55:42.179 --> 00:55:45.440
we hold. This brotherhood's for men whose stories

00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.219
need to be told. This brotherhood's for men whose

00:55:49.219 --> 00:55:52.880
stories need to be told. Say it loud. Say it

00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:57.460
loud. This is who we are. Bold, confident, and

00:55:57.460 --> 00:56:01.300
seductive. Dominant and classy. We stand tall,

00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:06.760
never fall. bold brotherhood luxury untaught
