WEBVTT 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:06.219 This podcast contains explicit adult content, 00:00:06.419 --> 00:00:10.060 mature themes, and candid conversations about 00:00:10.060 --> 00:00:14.439 sex, dominance, power exchange, and ethical non 00:00:14.439 --> 00:00:18.320 -monogamy. It is intended for audiences 18 and 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:22.980 over only. Listener discretion is advised. The 00:00:22.980 --> 00:00:25.579 views expressed by our guests are theirs alone 00:00:25.579 --> 00:00:29.320 and do not necessarily reflect the views or values 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:32.659 of the hosts. producers, or affiliated brands. 00:00:33.299 --> 00:00:36.500 The Bull Brotherhood podcast is for educational, 00:00:36.740 --> 00:00:39.460 entertainment, and empowerment purposes only. 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:42.280 Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:47.000 as legal advice, medical guidance, or psychological 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:50.679 counseling. We speak from experience, not credentials. 00:00:51.259 --> 00:00:54.479 Always practice consent, respect the boundaries 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:58.100 of others, and follow local laws. If you're not 00:00:58.100 --> 00:01:01.570 comfortable with Frank talk about sex, kink dominance 00:01:01.570 --> 00:01:05.010 or emotional power this probably isn't the show 00:01:05.010 --> 00:01:07.730 for you but if you're ready to step into your 00:01:07.730 --> 00:01:11.030 masculine edge and embrace a lifestyle that demands 00:01:11.030 --> 00:01:17.030 mastery welcome to the brotherhood welcome to 00:01:17.030 --> 00:01:20.109 the bull brotherhood podcast where we talk power 00:01:20.109 --> 00:01:23.209 pleasure and the art of dominance and ethical 00:01:23.209 --> 00:01:26.010 non -monogamy this is not your average lifestyle 00:01:26.010 --> 00:01:30.040 podcast this is for men who lead men who master, 00:01:30.299 --> 00:01:33.700 and men who leave a lasting impression. If you're 00:01:33.700 --> 00:01:36.719 here, you're not just curious, you're ready to 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:40.620 elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives, stags, 00:01:40.700 --> 00:01:44.439 and open -minded explorers, we see you. Let's 00:01:44.439 --> 00:01:59.689 go. Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and welcome 00:01:59.689 --> 00:02:04.010 to another informative episode of the Bull Brotherhood 00:02:04.010 --> 00:02:06.930 podcast. I'm one third of your podcast team, 00:02:07.109 --> 00:02:09.930 the Sigma male himself, Brian Morgan, and along 00:02:09.930 --> 00:02:14.710 with my family, the beautiful Siren. Say hello, 00:02:14.810 --> 00:02:19.389 Siren. Hello. And my brother from another mother, 00:02:19.509 --> 00:02:23.110 I call him aunt, excuse me, nephew himself, Socrates. 00:02:23.289 --> 00:02:26.240 What's good, brother? Nah, I call you Unk. What's 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:27.960 good, y 'all? Excited about this one. Exactly, 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:31.780 I messed that up. Ladies and gentlemen, tonight, 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:35.840 as I said before, we got another very, very informative 00:02:35.840 --> 00:02:40.020 podcast. But I am actually sitting this one out 00:02:40.020 --> 00:02:42.259 tonight, taking the night off, and I'm letting 00:02:42.259 --> 00:02:45.379 my nephew, Socrates, lead this thing. We're going 00:02:45.379 --> 00:02:47.659 to talk about something that he really wants 00:02:47.659 --> 00:02:49.939 to get into tonight, as well as I want to listen 00:02:49.939 --> 00:02:53.960 to. And as a matter of fact, I'm going to turn 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:55.819 it over to him right now and let him discuss 00:02:55.819 --> 00:02:59.580 exactly what he wants to do tonight. And to all 00:02:59.580 --> 00:03:01.659 the people out there listening, really, really 00:03:01.659 --> 00:03:04.979 get your headsets on. And he's got a lot to say. 00:03:05.699 --> 00:03:09.259 Go ahead, nephew. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So, you 00:03:09.259 --> 00:03:10.699 know, we could definitely want to include you 00:03:10.699 --> 00:03:13.560 guys on your input on certain things. But, you 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:16.379 know, I am a big proponent of research. And so 00:03:16.379 --> 00:03:20.979 we thought we'd do a podcast for you fellow nerds. 00:03:21.370 --> 00:03:24.770 and other people who just feel better and operate 00:03:24.770 --> 00:03:27.389 better with a certain amount of information before 00:03:27.389 --> 00:03:30.729 you jump in. So, yeah, that's what we want to 00:03:30.729 --> 00:03:33.590 talk about. So let's just get straight into it. 00:03:33.669 --> 00:03:37.770 So we had talked about in the last episode, you 00:03:37.770 --> 00:03:40.189 know, when we were talking about the certain 00:03:40.189 --> 00:03:42.889 dynamics of cucks and the cuckold lifestyle, 00:03:42.949 --> 00:03:48.449 we kind of got into our research. And I've spoken 00:03:48.449 --> 00:03:51.560 of this before. The reason why this is so important 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:54.139 to me is because when I first got into the lifestyle, 00:03:54.379 --> 00:03:58.060 I was like a lot of people. You know, I had an 00:03:58.060 --> 00:04:01.340 ethical. I mean, I had a monogamous mindset. 00:04:02.580 --> 00:04:06.699 What was that? You know, it was, you know, jealousy 00:04:06.699 --> 00:04:11.060 as a signal to stop. Right. Anytime another person 00:04:11.060 --> 00:04:13.620 touches your significant other is cheating. Right. 00:04:14.259 --> 00:04:17.329 People cannot be trusted. And everything that 00:04:17.329 --> 00:04:20.170 happens in porn and all of the bad news out there 00:04:20.170 --> 00:04:22.629 in the lifestyle is exactly what's happening. 00:04:22.810 --> 00:04:26.189 And even though I'm a really positive person, 00:04:26.329 --> 00:04:31.449 when it came to this situation, I kind of got 00:04:31.449 --> 00:04:33.449 into what's called a negative sorter. And that's 00:04:33.449 --> 00:04:36.930 just when someone looks at something and they 00:04:36.930 --> 00:04:38.730 need to make a decision. And some people look 00:04:38.730 --> 00:04:40.250 at all the negative things first. They're not 00:04:40.250 --> 00:04:42.170 negative people. They just kind of look at negative 00:04:42.170 --> 00:04:45.660 things first. And they want to see all the negative 00:04:45.660 --> 00:04:48.060 things that could go wrong. And then once they've 00:04:48.060 --> 00:04:49.480 done that and they feel comfortable that they 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:51.379 have that under control, then they can start 00:04:51.379 --> 00:04:53.699 focusing on the positive. And I'm usually the 00:04:53.699 --> 00:04:55.240 opposite. But when it came to the lifestyle, 00:04:55.379 --> 00:04:57.839 when I first got into it, you know, I was really 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.160 negative. And I was, you know, and here's the 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:05.279 thing. I did not know how to research. And, you 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:10.019 know, I had finally learned. I, you know, got 00:05:10.019 --> 00:05:12.120 into what it takes to research. And I just want 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:16.410 to share. what, you know, the best way to go 00:05:16.410 --> 00:05:19.269 about researching and why it's important. So, 00:05:19.290 --> 00:05:24.970 you know, I don't like saying this a lot, and 00:05:24.970 --> 00:05:28.629 I'm not bragging, but we have so little drama 00:05:28.629 --> 00:05:33.069 in our relationship. And me and my wife go hard, 00:05:33.370 --> 00:05:36.069 guys. Like, even though we've only been doing 00:05:36.069 --> 00:05:37.910 this for, what, three years now? Three and a 00:05:37.910 --> 00:05:39.310 half. Three and a half years. Three and a half, 00:05:39.370 --> 00:05:41.269 yep. Three and a half years. Can y 'all believe 00:05:41.269 --> 00:05:44.949 that? Even though we've only been doing this 00:05:44.949 --> 00:05:47.850 for three and a half years, we've gone hard. 00:05:48.050 --> 00:05:50.389 And we talk to a lot of people. I talk to a lot 00:05:50.389 --> 00:05:52.810 of people. And they say, man, you guys go hard. 00:05:53.050 --> 00:05:56.670 And so, you know. Let me say something. Let me 00:05:56.670 --> 00:06:02.990 say something. Elaborate on what you're on. when 00:06:02.990 --> 00:06:05.750 you say we go hard. You know what I mean? Because 00:06:05.750 --> 00:06:08.930 a lot of the audience, they won't understand 00:06:08.930 --> 00:06:12.170 what you mean when you say, I know exactly what 00:06:12.170 --> 00:06:14.569 you mean. But that word hard, can you give a 00:06:14.569 --> 00:06:17.389 definition of hard as far as what y 'all's dynamic 00:06:17.389 --> 00:06:21.529 is and how much you may play, et cetera, et cetera. 00:06:21.949 --> 00:06:23.769 Siren, you stay out of this. I already know what 00:06:23.769 --> 00:06:25.750 she wanted to get. Her definition of hard is 00:06:25.750 --> 00:06:32.189 full of blood and erect. No, I was going to say 00:06:32.189 --> 00:06:35.810 thank you for stopping him and having that because 00:06:35.810 --> 00:06:38.990 some people's version of go hard might be once 00:06:38.990 --> 00:06:42.649 a month. Exactly. Other people's version might 00:06:42.649 --> 00:06:47.189 be just when they go on vacation and they go 00:06:47.189 --> 00:06:53.629 hard during that time. To answer that, for example, 00:06:53.629 --> 00:06:58.170 when I first talked to Siren, I explained everything 00:06:58.170 --> 00:07:00.810 to her. I tried to be as patient as possible, 00:07:00.910 --> 00:07:03.990 try not to pressure her. And it wasn't until 00:07:03.990 --> 00:07:05.829 she talked to another female in the lifestyle, 00:07:05.910 --> 00:07:08.029 she felt comfortable. But the thing about her 00:07:08.029 --> 00:07:12.370 is, ladies and gentlemen, once she's ready, and 00:07:12.370 --> 00:07:14.970 this is all of life for her. Once she's ready 00:07:14.970 --> 00:07:19.430 and set, she's ready and set. So she had talked 00:07:19.430 --> 00:07:22.000 to her friend. The second she talked to her friend, 00:07:22.139 --> 00:07:25.240 we had kind of like a tentative date to go up 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:31.019 to this club in Seattle called Sapphire. Amazing 00:07:31.019 --> 00:07:33.459 club, by the way. Yeah, I recommend any of you 00:07:33.459 --> 00:07:35.759 ever in that area. I recommend you check it out. 00:07:37.860 --> 00:07:42.439 And she was like, OK, let's go. And I was like, 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:44.100 well, I'm in the middle of some business stuff. 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:46.959 Can we wait? And she's like, oh, she went anyway. 00:07:47.279 --> 00:07:51.180 Didn't go inside without me. And just loved it 00:07:51.180 --> 00:07:53.720 and was just, like, ready to go. And so the first 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:56.259 time we went, you know, I was like, hey, you 00:07:56.259 --> 00:08:01.519 know, you don't have to, you know, be in a hurry. 00:08:01.620 --> 00:08:03.540 We don't have to do anything, you know, you don't 00:08:03.540 --> 00:08:05.980 feel comfortable with. You know, there's no rush 00:08:05.980 --> 00:08:08.759 if we just want to, you know, just talk and get 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:12.139 to know people. She saw a very attractive brother, 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:16.339 you know, actually who just happened to be there 00:08:16.339 --> 00:08:19.680 with a lesbian couple. and went up to him and 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:21.360 asked if she can feel his arms, and that was 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:23.980 it. I think we had played with three couples. 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:31.300 Like them, that group, another couple. She just 00:08:31.300 --> 00:08:34.659 went balls to the wall. And then after that, 00:08:34.879 --> 00:08:38.240 it was kind of slow only because we were trying 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:42.879 to find our way. But almost immediately, we got 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:45.379 hooked up with a local gangbang community here. 00:08:45.950 --> 00:08:48.610 a guy that does gangbangs here big time. She 00:08:48.610 --> 00:08:51.490 jumped into that. I think the first time it was 00:08:51.490 --> 00:08:53.669 like 12 -man gangbang or something like that. 00:08:55.149 --> 00:08:59.669 Then we found out about Splash. We've told that 00:08:59.669 --> 00:09:01.690 story a thousand times. She went her first day. 00:09:02.389 --> 00:09:05.230 Her jaw dropped literally. I mean, have you seen 00:09:05.230 --> 00:09:08.450 them cartoons where people's jaw drops to the 00:09:08.450 --> 00:09:11.690 floor? Her jaw dropped and their eyes are wide 00:09:11.690 --> 00:09:15.539 open. She was stunned. All I needed to do was 00:09:15.539 --> 00:09:17.399 take her up to the room, fuck her, and give her 00:09:17.399 --> 00:09:22.259 a shot, and then she was gone. Now, on a good 00:09:22.259 --> 00:09:25.980 month, we might have, oh, this is what I'll say. 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:33.919 A year ago, we had went to a, you know, Splash 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.500 Mocha. She already had a play date because she's 00:09:37.500 --> 00:09:40.620 my slut secretary, which that means most of my 00:09:40.620 --> 00:09:43.019 play dates go through her. She handles them. 00:09:43.059 --> 00:09:45.860 She talks to the women. Women are much more comfortable 00:09:45.860 --> 00:09:48.580 when they can talk to me or when they can talk 00:09:48.580 --> 00:09:50.299 to the wife, knowing that I'm not, you know, 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.100 men are not playing any games. I'm not hiding 00:09:52.100 --> 00:09:54.840 anything or anything. She had set up a play date 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.759 immediately after Splash. Since that time a year 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.679 ago, I have not had one weekend that I had available 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:10.370 to play or week that I haven't played. Her numbers 00:10:10.370 --> 00:10:12.970 are starting to increase because we travel. So, 00:10:13.029 --> 00:10:15.850 you know, in a typical month, we might have two 00:10:15.850 --> 00:10:20.029 trips, you know, a play date once a week. And, 00:10:20.129 --> 00:10:23.789 you know, we had spent the weekend with a couple, 00:10:23.830 --> 00:10:27.210 and they were talking about their just crazy 00:10:27.210 --> 00:10:29.190 phase. And I think we're in the middle of our 00:10:29.190 --> 00:10:30.909 crazy phase right now. We're in the middle of 00:10:30.909 --> 00:10:34.250 doing events, doing this as a lifestyle business. 00:10:36.110 --> 00:10:38.509 Throwing our own parties, have our own separate 00:10:38.509 --> 00:10:41.049 play dates, having our own separate, you know, 00:10:41.049 --> 00:10:43.269 she'll leave town and do her own thing. We're 00:10:43.269 --> 00:10:46.009 in the middle of it. So, you know. You're in 00:10:46.009 --> 00:10:48.889 the born, you're in the born again phase. I like 00:10:48.889 --> 00:10:55.409 that. I like that. The two of you are in the 00:10:55.409 --> 00:10:58.529 born again phase. You know what I mean? And that 00:10:58.529 --> 00:11:01.669 is, that's exactly what I want the listeners 00:11:01.669 --> 00:11:06.879 to. Keep listening to and understand that every 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:10.379 couple is different. You guys did your research. 00:11:10.419 --> 00:11:12.919 I don't know how much research you did before 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:15.519 you finally, you know, got out there and said, 00:11:15.620 --> 00:11:18.620 hey, we trust each other enough to where we can 00:11:18.620 --> 00:11:21.919 play, you know, separately. And, you know, she 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:24.480 can go on play dates to different places and 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:27.419 et cetera, et cetera. For a lot of couples, that 00:11:27.419 --> 00:11:29.840 is not going to happen as fast as it happened 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:33.389 for you two. You know what I'm saying? A lot 00:11:33.389 --> 00:11:36.889 of times couples might, it takes a while. It 00:11:36.889 --> 00:11:39.809 may take, hell, it might take a damn year to 00:11:39.809 --> 00:11:42.389 a year and a half before you ever venture to 00:11:42.389 --> 00:11:48.269 any type of event, you know? Or it might take 00:11:48.269 --> 00:11:52.210 a month and you go to an event and you realize 00:11:52.210 --> 00:11:54.750 that, hey, okay, this is good, but you do some 00:11:54.750 --> 00:11:57.590 extra research and then you go to something like 00:11:57.590 --> 00:12:00.129 a Splash Mocha or something close to a Splash 00:12:00.129 --> 00:12:03.070 and you find out, okay, we've evolved a little 00:12:03.070 --> 00:12:06.289 bit more. Now we go to a Super Bowl like Splash 00:12:06.289 --> 00:12:09.909 and boom, like I say, it's succotash. You know 00:12:09.909 --> 00:12:12.509 what I mean? And so that's the different, that's 00:12:12.509 --> 00:12:14.529 the different, that's one of the phases that 00:12:14.529 --> 00:12:16.269 I call it. And like I say, it's the born again 00:12:16.269 --> 00:12:19.100 phase. Okay, so I'm going to shut up. Keep going. 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:21.860 No, no, Unc, I love it. That's another episode, 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:26.240 y 'all. The phases of lifestyle. I like that. 00:12:26.340 --> 00:12:29.080 I got to jump into that slow start business. 00:12:29.299 --> 00:12:31.879 And when he means, I used to keep a tally, like 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.039 everything that we would go to, a club or a gangbang 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:38.379 or an event or even a solo play date. I used 00:12:38.379 --> 00:12:41.700 to just keep all the dates on a little note. 00:12:42.460 --> 00:12:46.460 And the first year, I got 67 dudes. So I don't 00:12:46.460 --> 00:12:49.340 think that that was too much of a slow start. 00:12:49.460 --> 00:12:52.159 But maybe he's talking about just the first couple 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:55.159 months was a slow start. And after that, it was 00:12:55.159 --> 00:13:00.600 crazy. Here again, it depends on the couple. 00:13:00.700 --> 00:13:04.440 You guys got in and both of you were turned on, 00:13:04.620 --> 00:13:10.179 you know, not only by your individual, you know. 00:13:11.179 --> 00:13:15.179 statistics and results, but as a couple, you 00:13:15.179 --> 00:13:17.919 know, so you guys are definitely not the norm, 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.899 right? You're not the norm. Okay. You're not 00:13:20.899 --> 00:13:24.000 the norm. And that does not happen often. That's, 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:25.559 that's all I want to, you know, the fans to know 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:28.460 that that does not happen often. So, you know, 00:13:28.460 --> 00:13:31.379 hats off to you guys to be able to do that so, 00:13:31.460 --> 00:13:34.580 so quickly. And here again, in, in just three 00:13:34.580 --> 00:13:37.519 years, you pretty much have become, you went 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.090 from, you know, silver to gold and now you're 00:13:40.090 --> 00:13:43.970 down platinum. So great job. Reaching for diamond. 00:13:44.470 --> 00:13:48.730 I also want to say that, you know, one of the 00:13:48.730 --> 00:13:51.409 reasons that we were like, well, the biggest 00:13:51.409 --> 00:13:53.450 reason, and that's what this whole podcast is 00:13:53.450 --> 00:13:57.009 going to be about, that we were able to move 00:13:57.009 --> 00:14:00.809 through quickly like that because of the extensive 00:14:00.809 --> 00:14:06.100 amount of research. that Socrates did in the 00:14:06.100 --> 00:14:08.700 in -between time before I met him. When he was 00:14:08.700 --> 00:14:11.299 in the lifestyle with his ex -wife, it was one 00:14:11.299 --> 00:14:16.259 thing he was talking about, and he hadn't done 00:14:16.259 --> 00:14:20.759 the amount of research that he did by the time 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:25.480 I met him. So he kind of had all of his rough 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:28.960 times there and then figured out, hey, I need 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.779 to do some digging. So that's what we really 00:14:31.779 --> 00:14:36.600 want to... emphasize in this podcast is that 00:14:36.600 --> 00:14:40.679 that's really what helped make it so much easier 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:46.080 and quicker for me personally as a woman um was 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.659 that he he had his ducks in a row he had his 00:14:48.659 --> 00:14:52.000 framework he had all this research to back up 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.759 and it wasn't just you know willy -nilly all 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:57.320 over the place so that really helped so go ahead 00:14:57.320 --> 00:15:00.759 babe he had a lesson he had a lesson plan he 00:15:00.759 --> 00:15:04.509 developed a lesson plan And you followed it to 00:15:04.509 --> 00:15:08.850 a T. Outstanding. Yeah, so I'm glad she told 00:15:08.850 --> 00:15:10.690 that story. She tells it better than I do. But, 00:15:10.730 --> 00:15:12.529 I mean, I pretty much made all of my mistakes 00:15:12.529 --> 00:15:15.330 in my first marriage when it comes to lifestyle. 00:15:16.049 --> 00:15:19.870 And I did not want to do that again to her, you 00:15:19.870 --> 00:15:23.129 know. I really feel bad that I made those mistakes 00:15:23.129 --> 00:15:26.330 with my ex, you know, because it caused a lot 00:15:26.330 --> 00:15:28.490 of problems. It caused a lot of confusion. It 00:15:28.490 --> 00:15:31.940 caused a lot of insecurities on her part. caused 00:15:31.940 --> 00:15:35.840 a lot of drama that was unnecessary. One of the 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:37.899 things I did is I ended up in the wrong community. 00:15:38.059 --> 00:15:40.600 And when I say wrong, I mean not a good fit for 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.320 me. So I was part of a half and half, what I 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.500 call half and half community. I won't mention, 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:47.820 well, I can. There used to be, there was a Facebook 00:15:47.820 --> 00:15:51.019 group called The Red Room. It's mostly down south. 00:15:51.620 --> 00:15:54.820 Shout out to all those people. Shout out to all 00:15:54.820 --> 00:15:56.200 the people that I'm still friends with. Shout 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:57.759 out to all the people I'm not still friends with 00:15:57.759 --> 00:16:00.779 because, you know, I was drama and problems in 00:16:00.779 --> 00:16:03.840 there, too, because, again, here's the thing 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:05.980 about me. When I don't do research, I'm not like 00:16:05.980 --> 00:16:09.039 most people. Most people can navigate and, you 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:12.679 know, lean back on some basics. I fuck shit up. 00:16:14.220 --> 00:16:18.580 Facts. I fuck shit up. I'm not joking. That's 00:16:18.580 --> 00:16:21.360 not a cliche. That's not something to get, you 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:25.299 know, clickbait. I'll fuck shit up. So I have 00:16:25.299 --> 00:16:30.440 to research. And so we're going to talk about 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:34.440 the different kinds of, you know, things to look 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:40.620 for, why you should research and your research 00:16:40.620 --> 00:16:43.879 style. I didn't even know about that until I 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:46.000 did some research on it. So there's different 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.659 research styles. The main reason why I think 00:16:49.659 --> 00:16:51.519 you should research as much as possible, and 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:54.080 we'll get into the styles, so you don't have 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.879 to be like me, right? You should research as 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:59.580 much as possible. Now, I read several books, 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.679 listened to thousands of hours of all kind of 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:05.400 podcasts, talked to anybody that would listen 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:07.539 to me, and I'm going to tell you, literally half 00:17:07.539 --> 00:17:09.220 the people after I talked to them, they did not 00:17:09.220 --> 00:17:10.759 want to talk to me after that because I would 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:13.180 ask people questions so much that they thought 00:17:13.180 --> 00:17:18.890 I was interrogating them. You know, I was just 00:17:18.890 --> 00:17:22.130 really concerned about all the negativity that 00:17:22.130 --> 00:17:23.910 could happen, and I wanted to do everything I 00:17:23.910 --> 00:17:26.750 could to avoid it. So the biggest reason why 00:17:26.750 --> 00:17:30.509 is because ethical non -monogamy is a huge umbrella, 00:17:30.789 --> 00:17:35.670 huge umbrella. And so understanding the dynamics, 00:17:35.910 --> 00:17:38.509 understanding that these are guidelines and not 00:17:38.509 --> 00:17:41.529 boxes that you're going to be put in, not ways 00:17:41.529 --> 00:17:46.390 to be judged, not strict lines to follow. but 00:17:46.390 --> 00:17:49.130 guidelines to help you understand yourself, you 00:17:49.130 --> 00:17:51.950 know? So there's being ethical, non -monogamous 00:17:51.950 --> 00:17:55.269 is an umbrella under that umbrella. There's things 00:17:55.269 --> 00:17:57.730 like polyamory, which involves, I figure like 00:17:57.730 --> 00:18:00.390 that is the height of it because it involves 00:18:00.390 --> 00:18:04.269 everything. I know people who are poly that have 00:18:04.269 --> 00:18:08.130 romantic relationships, husbands, they got boyfriends, 00:18:08.269 --> 00:18:12.390 they swing a little bit. They might have friends 00:18:12.390 --> 00:18:15.480 with benefits, hookups, things like that. There's 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.700 emotions involved. Then there's just on the other 00:18:18.700 --> 00:18:20.619 spectrum, there's almost the opposite of that, 00:18:20.700 --> 00:18:23.740 which is swinging. Now, swinging is kind of those 00:18:23.740 --> 00:18:27.079 catch -all phrases for some people. But for us, 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:30.380 it's just simply a couple who wants to even swap 00:18:30.380 --> 00:18:33.940 or maybe they'll invite a single, most of the 00:18:33.940 --> 00:18:36.480 time, a single woman and sometimes a single man. 00:18:36.619 --> 00:18:40.420 But most of the time, their focus is on making 00:18:40.420 --> 00:18:43.400 sure it's even, right? Then you have things like 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:47.119 stag and vixen, which is what me and Siren are. 00:18:47.700 --> 00:18:50.220 And then you have cuckoldry. Then you have open 00:18:50.220 --> 00:18:52.839 relationship, which is also a huge catch all. 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.539 That's kind of like we're not sure what we are, 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:57.299 but we're just kind of open to what happens. 00:18:57.500 --> 00:19:00.240 And there's some basic framework. So you want 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:04.220 to find out at least what the options are. You 00:19:04.220 --> 00:19:06.940 might not even know what you are or how you feel 00:19:06.940 --> 00:19:09.759 or what dynamic works best for you. You might 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:11.740 have to go through years and years of trying 00:19:11.740 --> 00:19:13.599 some things out, you know, months and months 00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:16.160 of trying things out, you know, but I do recommend 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:19.779 that you look into those things and understand 00:19:19.779 --> 00:19:25.740 those dynamics. The second biggest thing is what 00:19:25.740 --> 00:19:29.079 I'm talking about, reducing conflict through 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:32.619 knowledge. Reducing conflict through knowledge. 00:19:33.519 --> 00:19:35.559 you're going to have conflict with your significant 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:37.599 other. You're going to have conflict with other 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:40.240 people. I don't mean to scare you away. But again, 00:19:40.420 --> 00:19:42.599 I've had very little drama. There's never been 00:19:42.599 --> 00:19:47.140 a shouting match or violence or huge issues or 00:19:47.140 --> 00:19:49.839 falling outs of anything. But I have seen it. 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:53.079 And that's another reason why I have seen people. 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:57.039 I've read stories of people, you know, hurting 00:19:57.039 --> 00:19:58.960 themselves. There's a couple that were a guy. 00:20:00.339 --> 00:20:04.559 pushed for a threesome, brought his friend in, 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:08.039 didn't, you know, I guess he didn't play sports, 00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:09.960 didn't know his friend had a huge -ass dick, 00:20:10.140 --> 00:20:14.079 dicked his wife down, he got mad, stabbed his 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:16.799 friend in the neck, and jumped out of the window 00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:19.599 to try to commit suicide. He died, and his friend 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.440 who got stabbed survived. You know, I've heard 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:25.740 horror stories like that. You know, and countless 00:20:25.740 --> 00:20:27.480 people who've lost their marriages and their 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:30.240 relationships. Some people have lost their jobs, 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:34.500 everything. So you want to be able to avoid losing 00:20:34.500 --> 00:20:38.160 your job. You want to be able to avoid bringing 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:40.339 it to your wife and saying all the wrong things. 00:20:40.500 --> 00:20:43.920 You want to be able to avoid going to different 00:20:43.920 --> 00:20:46.859 events where the vibe is not good. Like, we just 00:20:46.859 --> 00:20:49.160 went to one of our local clubs, and we love this 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:51.200 club. I mean, we know the owners. We love the 00:20:51.200 --> 00:20:54.690 people there, but they had one. event one theme 00:20:54.690 --> 00:20:57.630 that i knew in my heart i wasn't gonna vibe with 00:20:57.630 --> 00:21:00.170 but i said you know what you know let's try it 00:21:00.170 --> 00:21:04.769 anyway and it was a mistake you know so less 00:21:04.769 --> 00:21:08.289 you reduce conflict through knowledge right avoid 00:21:08.289 --> 00:21:11.289 misinformation from toxic or one -sided resources 00:21:11.289 --> 00:21:16.609 right right now the not the monogamous tiktok 00:21:16.609 --> 00:21:20.450 world is on fire after this pd stuff one of the 00:21:20.450 --> 00:21:23.900 things that's infuriating me is how a lot of 00:21:23.900 --> 00:21:29.380 monogamous people are correlating the ditty shit 00:21:29.380 --> 00:21:32.940 with ethical non -monogamous people, right? So 00:21:32.940 --> 00:21:37.319 there's a lot of toxic misinformation out there 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:41.599 about what swinging is about, about statistics, 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:44.660 about our STIs, statistics about our marriage, 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:47.799 how long we last. All of that stuff is in the 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:52.200 green. All of that stuff is positive. especially 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:54.299 when you move away from polyamory. And I just 00:21:54.299 --> 00:21:56.200 think it's because polyamory in society is new. 00:21:56.859 --> 00:22:01.240 But, you know, when you can avoid that toxic 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.460 misinformation, you avoid a lot of fears because 00:22:04.460 --> 00:22:06.839 a lot of people walk into the lifestyle just 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:10.019 afraid because of all their friends and family 00:22:10.019 --> 00:22:15.279 and, you know, social media misrepresenting it. 00:22:15.660 --> 00:22:19.309 So, you know. Any questions from the two of you 00:22:19.309 --> 00:22:20.890 guys before I move on? Because I want to start 00:22:20.890 --> 00:22:23.190 talking about, you know, your research personality. 00:22:23.630 --> 00:22:26.509 But anything I want to contribute on that level? 00:22:28.190 --> 00:22:31.690 No, I'm just enjoying you speaking right now. 00:22:31.750 --> 00:22:34.630 I mean, you're on the road. Keep going. I'm good. 00:22:34.930 --> 00:22:38.289 Yeah. Okay. Well, so the next one is know your 00:22:38.289 --> 00:22:41.109 research personality. So there's four research 00:22:41.109 --> 00:22:44.869 personalities out there. There's the analyst. 00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:48.160 This is the person that loves data, studies, 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:51.779 and structure, right? So good for reading books 00:22:51.779 --> 00:22:54.539 and academic work. That's me, right? I'm the 00:22:54.539 --> 00:22:59.119 guy who's plugged in. I got where it was, but 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:02.559 you can get an RSS feed, which is pretty much 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:06.880 where you get automatic information on a periodic 00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:09.299 basis, either a monthly email or daily email. 00:23:09.740 --> 00:23:13.539 And I sign up for all the college papers that 00:23:13.539 --> 00:23:17.000 have been published. or made public regarding 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:20.160 ethical non -monogamy. That's me. I'm the analyst. 00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:23.819 I will read, you know, right now I used to read 00:23:23.819 --> 00:23:26.720 them. Now I just plug them in the chat and have 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:30.720 them give me the synopsis. But I read those things. 00:23:30.779 --> 00:23:36.339 So I know the STI statistics. I know how it benefits 00:23:36.339 --> 00:23:38.980 you, what the pros and cons are. If you're an 00:23:38.980 --> 00:23:41.619 analyst, if you're an engineer, if you're a software 00:23:41.619 --> 00:23:44.890 engineer, if you're a nerd of any kind, then 00:23:44.890 --> 00:23:48.069 that's the one for you, right? You're going to 00:23:48.069 --> 00:23:51.829 want to get those research feeds. You're going 00:23:51.829 --> 00:23:54.990 to want to study the books. You're going to want 00:23:54.990 --> 00:23:57.390 to study the papers. You're going to want to 00:23:57.390 --> 00:24:02.769 look into statistically how things pan out. I 00:24:02.769 --> 00:24:06.730 also want to, what I want to do is also tell 00:24:06.730 --> 00:24:10.430 people, look, for those people who are analysts, 00:24:10.710 --> 00:24:16.299 be careful of. analysis paralysis, right? Don't 00:24:16.299 --> 00:24:20.240 go too deep in it because that rabbit hole almost 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:22.839 never ends you up in the right place, right? 00:24:23.140 --> 00:24:27.339 I really recommend if you're an analyst research 00:24:27.339 --> 00:24:32.619 personality type to write down what you want 00:24:32.619 --> 00:24:37.119 to get. Acknowledge your emotional and intellectual 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:41.579 fears and have a cutoff point. Give yourself 00:24:41.579 --> 00:24:46.069 a break. And make sure that you're not, check 00:24:46.069 --> 00:24:50.289 your significant other. If they're not an analysis 00:24:50.289 --> 00:24:55.269 person, then learn how to communicate with them 00:24:55.269 --> 00:24:59.569 in a way that they understand. So then the second 00:24:59.569 --> 00:25:02.450 part is the empath, right? This person learns 00:25:02.450 --> 00:25:05.349 through stories, interviews, and community forums. 00:25:06.029 --> 00:25:08.269 You know, like I said on the last podcast, there 00:25:08.269 --> 00:25:14.759 are so many ways to learn, right? The second 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:18.380 best way is talking to people, right? Listening 00:25:18.380 --> 00:25:21.880 to podcasts and listening to stories of people's 00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:24.480 other experiences. But if you can get to somebody 00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:27.420 that is similar to you, similar in your likes, 00:25:27.420 --> 00:25:30.720 similar in your cultural values, similar in your 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:34.440 area, you know, you're similar in your direction 00:25:34.440 --> 00:25:38.559 and ask those people those questions, you know, 00:25:38.579 --> 00:25:41.059 you're in good. You know, it's always said if 00:25:41.059 --> 00:25:44.599 you want something in life, find somebody who 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:50.259 has it and talk to them right so for the empath 00:25:50.259 --> 00:25:53.900 find somebody if you if possible virtually either 00:25:53.900 --> 00:25:57.059 through podcast or through youtube channels or 00:25:57.059 --> 00:26:00.099 tiktok or anything like that find the people 00:26:00.099 --> 00:26:02.079 that living the lifestyle the way you want that 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:07.160 you vibe with and sit down with them and Have 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:10.039 them share stories of horror stories and success 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.700 stories and some of the rules and philosophies 00:26:12.700 --> 00:26:14.759 they have. That really helps people like that. 00:26:17.500 --> 00:26:20.599 After that, there's the explorer. This person 00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:23.819 needs firsthand experience, goes to events. On 00:26:23.819 --> 00:26:27.279 the job training. On the job training. I think 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:30.079 this is Siren. Do you think that's you? Do you 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:32.019 identify with that? Well, finish reading it. 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:36.920 Okay. This person just has to see it to believe 00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:39.920 it. This person has to be in that situation, 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:43.259 you know, smell, smell the room, right? Smell 00:26:43.259 --> 00:26:47.599 the ambience, see people's. That would be me. 00:26:47.779 --> 00:26:50.900 Yeah. Talk to me about it. Talk to me about it. 00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:53.019 Why, why would you say that's you? And what are 00:26:53.019 --> 00:26:56.619 you looking for as an explorer? I, I can, I, 00:26:56.759 --> 00:26:59.119 I can tell you here again from personal experience. 00:26:59.220 --> 00:27:02.970 Okay. When I got. when i got into this uh and 00:27:02.970 --> 00:27:06.529 i've told you and the fans before that i just 00:27:06.529 --> 00:27:09.750 you know i had a female handler so i did not 00:27:09.750 --> 00:27:12.789 have we didn't have all of the you know the words 00:27:12.789 --> 00:27:15.369 and and and you know and we didn't know what 00:27:15.369 --> 00:27:17.750 a cuckold was and we didn't necessarily know 00:27:17.750 --> 00:27:21.230 what a hot wife and this and that so we had to 00:27:21.230 --> 00:27:25.509 to do the ojt i you know i had to do the only 00:27:25.509 --> 00:27:30.099 job training i had to uh um talk You know, I 00:27:30.099 --> 00:27:32.619 had to meet couples and I had to, you know, get 00:27:32.619 --> 00:27:35.099 inside their head. I had to feel what they're 00:27:35.099 --> 00:27:38.660 feeling. You know what I'm saying? And then here 00:27:38.660 --> 00:27:42.539 again, through trial and error, as I, as I maneuvered, 00:27:42.539 --> 00:27:45.500 say from each couple to couple, you know, from 00:27:45.500 --> 00:27:48.500 each encounter, each encounter, I was able to 00:27:48.500 --> 00:27:53.279 put together my own style from that. Okay. And 00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:56.720 then here again. with with the experience factor 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.960 you know from year to year to year like i said 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.920 before i put together that lesson plan all right 00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.460 i had a lesson plan for when i talked to stag 00:28:07.460 --> 00:28:10.319 vixen types of couples i had a lesson plan for 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.759 when i talked to i knew that it was a true coupled 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:16.039 couple uh i had one for when i when i knew that 00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:19.980 it was a a female -led relationship you know, 00:28:19.980 --> 00:28:21.819 et cetera, et cetera. So that's what I mean by 00:28:21.819 --> 00:28:25.400 sometimes ones can read and hear again. I can 00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:27.700 sit here on the computer and I can read, read, 00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:29.839 read, and read. But until I actually get out 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:31.880 there and experience it and feel it, and like 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:36.180 you said, smell it myself, then I can put together 00:28:36.180 --> 00:28:39.380 how I'm going to be, you know, in that particular 00:28:39.380 --> 00:28:44.240 lifestyle. And I think for, I know we're talking 00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.880 about the couples here, but for the bulls who, 00:28:48.600 --> 00:28:50.880 go through this also should go through this. 00:28:51.259 --> 00:28:54.740 I think you can, yes, you need to sit down and 00:28:54.740 --> 00:28:57.599 read. You need to sit down and read, but though 00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.880 you need to be able to go into the situation. 00:29:00.460 --> 00:29:03.180 And like I said, if you go to a splash one time, 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:06.240 go to a splash and go there with the mindset 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.480 of saying, I'm not trying to play with anybody. 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:12.380 I just want to sit here and talk. Okay. I want 00:29:12.380 --> 00:29:14.880 to sit here and look, I want to observe, you 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:19.180 know what I mean? what style do I have? You know, 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.140 am I a real outgoing person and, you know, I 00:29:22.140 --> 00:29:26.559 can approach everybody or am I like, like myself, 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:29.740 Sigma, and I sit back and I let you come to me, 00:29:29.819 --> 00:29:31.799 you know what I mean? Because I'm reading, I'm 00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:33.740 reading the room. So that's, that's what I'm 00:29:33.740 --> 00:29:35.240 talking about right there. That's that, that 00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.359 on the job training, that's very, very crucial 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:42.759 in my opinion, in this lifestyle, because it 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:44.319 is going to develop, you're going to develop 00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:46.410 confidence. You're going to develop confidence. 00:29:46.509 --> 00:29:48.650 You're going to develop that rapport. You're 00:29:48.650 --> 00:29:53.269 going to develop an aura, a style, a charisma. 00:29:53.970 --> 00:29:57.609 And all of that, once you get all that blended 00:29:57.609 --> 00:30:00.730 into you, bam, you become a dangerous person 00:30:00.730 --> 00:30:06.029 then. Word. I'm going to blow my husband's mind 00:30:06.029 --> 00:30:09.690 right now with telling him what style I am. I'm 00:30:09.690 --> 00:30:12.089 all three. And let me tell you how that works. 00:30:13.849 --> 00:30:17.230 I think that I start off as an empath and I listen 00:30:17.230 --> 00:30:19.390 to other people's experiences, kind of like a 00:30:19.390 --> 00:30:22.509 referral. Right. You know, you have somebody 00:30:22.509 --> 00:30:24.789 that's like, oh, Sally may cut my hair. They 00:30:24.789 --> 00:30:27.309 were so great. You know, so I listen to that 00:30:27.309 --> 00:30:29.430 personal experience from somebody I know and 00:30:29.430 --> 00:30:34.269 trust. That's why when I got into the lifestyle, 00:30:34.269 --> 00:30:38.069 I needed to talk to the woman. Right. He had 00:30:38.069 --> 00:30:41.289 given me all of the book work part and I I did 00:30:41.289 --> 00:30:45.009 that part, but it. didn't take me to where I 00:30:45.009 --> 00:30:48.549 needed to go to get started. So talking to that 00:30:48.549 --> 00:30:52.410 woman, that was the empathic part. Then came 00:30:52.410 --> 00:30:55.029 the explorer part, going on the job training, 00:30:55.210 --> 00:30:57.609 right? Going to that club in Seattle, experiencing 00:30:57.609 --> 00:31:01.890 it for myself. And then once I'm into something 00:31:01.890 --> 00:31:05.670 like that, then I become the analyst. It's like, 00:31:05.670 --> 00:31:08.410 my husband don't give a shit about astrology. 00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:11.539 But me and my hairdresser, we'll sit and talk 00:31:11.539 --> 00:31:13.359 about it. We'll look up shit on the Internet, 00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.460 all kinds of stuff, because I already had that 00:31:16.460 --> 00:31:19.319 interest. So now with the lifestyle, it's like 00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.779 now I want to read more books about it. Now I 00:31:22.779 --> 00:31:25.640 want to listen to more podcasts and dive deeper. 00:31:25.859 --> 00:31:30.400 So that's how the three work for me. But the 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.000 bulk of it, you know, that he does see especially 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.500 is that explorer part. So but I wanted once I 00:31:36.500 --> 00:31:39.369 heard all three, I was like. It all ties together 00:31:39.369 --> 00:31:41.569 for me. Well, actually, you're probably all four. 00:31:41.890 --> 00:31:44.009 Oh, is there one more? There's one more. Oh. 00:31:44.269 --> 00:31:48.210 Yeah. That's the connector. That person builds 00:31:48.210 --> 00:31:50.589 a network, learns from trusted people in the 00:31:50.589 --> 00:31:55.450 space. Yeah. So I am all four. So that's someone 00:31:55.450 --> 00:31:59.890 who, you know. That's super cool. I love that, 00:31:59.930 --> 00:32:04.599 Daddy. Oh, thank you. That's someone, I can think 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:06.259 of someone right now, I won't mention his name 00:32:06.259 --> 00:32:09.180 because I don't want to speak for him, but that's 00:32:09.180 --> 00:32:11.599 someone who I identify with, that person who 00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:14.079 says, you know what, I don't want to just get 00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:15.920 to know any willy -nilly person. I don't want 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.559 to just read from some person that I've never 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:23.200 met. I want to find the top of the top. I want 00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.220 to get around the certain people that I like, 00:32:25.339 --> 00:32:28.740 build that network, find somebody I know I can 00:32:28.740 --> 00:32:31.759 trust, and then I'll ask questions. That person 00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.240 might get in and jump in because they know they 00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.019 can kind of navigate the basics, right? Other 00:32:38.019 --> 00:32:40.039 people might chill until that time. You know, 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.380 I've known people who say, you know, I have a 00:32:42.380 --> 00:32:46.160 friend who, they're a couple out here where we 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:48.579 live, and they were in the lifestyle for a year 00:32:48.579 --> 00:32:53.119 before they did anything. And it wasn't until 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.819 they've built up a bunch of couples that they 00:32:55.819 --> 00:32:58.440 trusted that they felt comfortable moving forward, 00:32:58.579 --> 00:33:02.190 you know? So those are the four types, the analyst, 00:33:02.549 --> 00:33:05.710 the empath, the explorer, and the connector. 00:33:05.829 --> 00:33:07.869 And if you don't know which one you are, you 00:33:07.869 --> 00:33:10.049 know, mix and match the styles. There's no right 00:33:10.049 --> 00:33:12.569 method or wrong method to do it, right? Just 00:33:12.569 --> 00:33:16.150 mix them up and try it and see where it takes 00:33:16.150 --> 00:33:18.269 you. You know what I mean? I think that just 00:33:18.269 --> 00:33:21.190 helped me in my whole life right now. Wow. How? 00:33:21.410 --> 00:33:24.569 Wow. Just wow. Okay. This is what we would call 00:33:24.569 --> 00:33:30.160 revelation. No, because I didn't really put all 00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:32.599 that together about myself until I just heard 00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:33.940 all of this. Hold on. Here's some revelation 00:33:33.940 --> 00:33:39.400 noise, y 'all. Oh, it didn't work. What was it 00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:43.039 going to be like? Oh, like a little sparkle. 00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:48.920 Like that's the light bulb coming on. Yep. I 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:51.700 think I do this with lots of things. And that 00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:55.420 actually makes me feel more confident now because 00:33:55.420 --> 00:33:59.000 sometimes. I feel like we kind of talk about 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.500 that I don't even research. But knowing the different 00:34:01.500 --> 00:34:05.339 kinds makes me know I do research, but I just 00:34:05.339 --> 00:34:08.239 research in a certain pattern that works for 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:12.639 me. And that starts with being an empath and 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.940 going to the explorer, then the analyst, and 00:34:15.940 --> 00:34:22.659 then the connector. I love it. Yeah. I'll have 00:34:22.659 --> 00:34:25.050 to think of a way to reward you for this. Ooh, 00:34:25.170 --> 00:34:28.969 I know exactly what. You don't have to think, 00:34:29.010 --> 00:34:32.409 mommy. I got you. Okay, okay. Take a load off 00:34:32.409 --> 00:34:36.170 me. All right. So where to start, right? Now 00:34:36.170 --> 00:34:39.949 you've decided on your research personality or 00:34:39.949 --> 00:34:44.710 you've picked one. Where to start? Well, if you're 00:34:44.710 --> 00:34:47.769 an analyst, start with Reddit. I really think 00:34:47.769 --> 00:34:49.610 you should start with Reddit. You know, go with 00:34:49.610 --> 00:34:54.039 the sub, I think it's called Substack. of non 00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:58.199 -monogamy, right? Put your filters in. And I 00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.300 would definitely start with the ethical slut. 00:35:00.420 --> 00:35:04.199 That is the lifestyle Bible. Now, it leans more 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.239 towards poly, but the principles in there are 00:35:07.239 --> 00:35:09.880 so good. I even recommend it to a few of my kind 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:13.239 of like monogamish people or people that are 00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.980 open -minded monogamous people because the skills 00:35:16.980 --> 00:35:20.679 you're going to learn in there are so dope. You 00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:25.119 know, if you're a connector, Then some of the 00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:29.599 networks I highly recommend is Splash or, you 00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:33.719 know, there is different communities out there. 00:35:33.780 --> 00:35:35.739 There's actually even if people don't know, this 00:35:35.739 --> 00:35:43.880 is actually a swingers like organization that 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.739 kind of operates like, you know, those organizations 00:35:47.739 --> 00:35:51.039 that raise money and lobby. And what's that? 00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:52.969 What's the name of that? I can't remember that. 00:35:53.150 --> 00:35:56.630 Advocates? Advocacy? It's a different name. There's 00:35:56.630 --> 00:36:01.289 swinger advocacy groups that you can join. If 00:36:01.289 --> 00:36:04.969 you're an empath and you like to hear stories 00:36:04.969 --> 00:36:09.210 or interviews or community forums, I would definitely 00:36:09.210 --> 00:36:14.769 join a local club. They usually have groups you 00:36:14.769 --> 00:36:19.929 can go to. If you're into the kink side of it, 00:36:20.090 --> 00:36:23.469 I would definitely go to a munch. I would go 00:36:23.469 --> 00:36:27.769 to every meet and greet possible. If you're an 00:36:27.769 --> 00:36:29.630 explorer or an empath, I would go to meet and 00:36:29.630 --> 00:36:33.010 greets. If you're a connector, I would go to 00:36:33.010 --> 00:36:35.670 meet and greets just so you can find the networks 00:36:35.670 --> 00:36:43.650 you should be a part of. Then conferences are 00:36:43.650 --> 00:36:46.469 good. You know, Vegas always has one. The AVN 00:36:46.469 --> 00:36:49.489 is a great place to go to. It's one of the great 00:36:49.489 --> 00:36:52.190 conferences. Splash Mocha has several seminars. 00:36:52.489 --> 00:36:56.190 A lot of them, I think Hot Wife Palooza has seminars. 00:36:56.309 --> 00:36:59.030 So a lot of the events you'll go to, they'll 00:36:59.030 --> 00:37:04.030 have seminars. FetLife is a great resource. I 00:37:04.030 --> 00:37:07.210 cannot catch a date on there to save my life. 00:37:07.489 --> 00:37:09.789 I haven't been able to meet anybody on there 00:37:09.789 --> 00:37:12.550 or anything like that, but it's a great place 00:37:12.550 --> 00:37:17.099 to find any local forums. Facebook groups that 00:37:17.099 --> 00:37:20.099 are private that you might not know of, and they 00:37:20.099 --> 00:37:23.000 have every single interest there is, you know, 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:29.579 from BBC parties to, you know, polycules to munches 00:37:29.579 --> 00:37:34.960 to everything. Also, along with FetLife, you 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:38.079 also have Black to White. Black to White is good. 00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:43.030 Yeah, btw .com, that's good. They actually have 00:37:43.030 --> 00:37:45.570 the forums up there and a lot of people go up 00:37:45.570 --> 00:37:47.769 there and, you know, I even have one up there 00:37:47.769 --> 00:37:51.349 myself for the Bulls. And, you know, periodically 00:37:51.349 --> 00:37:54.190 I go up there and I'll jot down a question and 00:37:54.190 --> 00:37:56.469 you'll be surprised what guys come back with. 00:37:56.610 --> 00:37:59.429 You know, we'll talk, we'll text for maybe an 00:37:59.429 --> 00:38:02.230 hour about different topics. So that's a good 00:38:02.230 --> 00:38:05.789 one also. Yeah, we got a guy off there for my 00:38:05.789 --> 00:38:09.909 birthday this year. Yep, yep, yep. And then, 00:38:09.929 --> 00:38:12.039 you know what, before I move on, I want to say 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.960 this, have fun with it. You know, if you're partnered 00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:17.179 up and you guys are wanting to do research and 00:38:17.179 --> 00:38:19.340 one of you are researchers and one of you is 00:38:19.340 --> 00:38:22.420 not, you know, one of you is an analyst and the 00:38:22.420 --> 00:38:26.019 other one is not, you know, have a date night 00:38:26.019 --> 00:38:27.920 and say, we're just going to sit in the bed, 00:38:28.059 --> 00:38:31.440 put some sexy music on, bring up our laptops 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:35.039 and ask some questions and research, ask chat 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:39.320 GBT, ask a friend, go online, you know, make 00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:42.510 a night of it, make a date of it. You know, have 00:38:42.510 --> 00:38:47.070 a shared, like, notes. Like, if you're an Apple 00:38:47.070 --> 00:38:49.750 user, you know, you can share your notes, Android, 00:38:50.030 --> 00:38:51.929 you know, whatever you guys do, whatever you 00:38:51.929 --> 00:38:55.789 robot people do. Share notes with each other, 00:38:55.889 --> 00:38:59.869 you know. Share the stuff that you've learned 00:38:59.869 --> 00:39:03.030 throughout the week, right? So if you learn something, 00:39:03.230 --> 00:39:05.409 you know, hey, I talked to one of my bullfriends, 00:39:05.510 --> 00:39:07.190 and he was telling me, you know, this approach. 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.960 You know, today, one of my mentors, Mr. Mocha, 00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:12.400 shout out to Mr. Mocha from the Old Faces podcast, 00:39:12.920 --> 00:39:15.659 Mr. and Mrs. Mocha. He was talking to me today 00:39:15.659 --> 00:39:20.579 about how I can increase my cuckold presence 00:39:20.579 --> 00:39:22.880 and how I can, you know, get in front of more 00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.320 cuckold couples and some of the mistakes that 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:29.119 I might be making today. You know, it's always 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:32.699 good to talk to people on that level. So now 00:39:32.699 --> 00:39:36.420 we're going to talk about. How to fact -check 00:39:36.420 --> 00:39:40.820 in a sea of opinions, right? So everybody and 00:39:40.820 --> 00:39:43.440 their mama's got opinions. You know, we have 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:46.559 opinions, right? Everybody and their mama thinks 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:48.579 they know what they're doing. But if you're an 00:39:48.579 --> 00:39:51.099 analyst, you know there's a certain way to fact 00:39:51.099 --> 00:39:55.440 -check. So if you're on, for example, Perplexity, 00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.219 which is a great app I recommend to all my analyst 00:39:59.219 --> 00:40:02.719 guys if they don't know. It's an AI -based... 00:40:03.500 --> 00:40:09.360 research app that only uses, you know, papers 00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:15.519 and cites all their work and has specific places 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.179 where they draw from. So, for example, ChatGPT 00:40:18.179 --> 00:40:21.480 draws from the web. It'll draw from social media 00:40:21.480 --> 00:40:25.440 lies. It'll draw from blogs of people that have, 00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:28.500 you know, their own agenda. But Perplexity uses 00:40:28.500 --> 00:40:31.909 that. So if you're doing that, then. I would 00:40:31.909 --> 00:40:34.969 really look. There's starting to be plenty of 00:40:34.969 --> 00:40:38.730 papers that are, you know, double blind studies, 00:40:39.070 --> 00:40:43.849 peer reviewed studies, replicated studies, things 00:40:43.849 --> 00:40:48.210 like that. Make sure you vet your authors and 00:40:48.210 --> 00:40:50.570 your speakers and the people that you're talking 00:40:50.570 --> 00:40:53.530 to. So if they consider themselves an expert, 00:40:53.809 --> 00:40:57.010 look into them just a little bit. You know, one 00:40:57.010 --> 00:40:58.889 of the things that amazes me and I'm not going 00:40:58.889 --> 00:41:03.739 to put any names out there is. And I only know 00:41:03.739 --> 00:41:07.539 personally of one podcaster. I'm surprised at 00:41:07.539 --> 00:41:10.260 how many podcasters spend way more time podcasting 00:41:10.260 --> 00:41:12.760 than they do playing. And this isn't a judgment. 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:17.159 If that's you, no judgment. But for me, I wish 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:19.039 I would have known that when I first got started. 00:41:19.539 --> 00:41:24.219 Because, you know, like I say, we go hard in 00:41:24.219 --> 00:41:27.280 our opinion, what we think is hard. And I want 00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:29.739 to hear from people that either have or are. 00:41:30.409 --> 00:41:34.530 going hard right are deep into this you might 00:41:34.530 --> 00:41:38.250 want like we follow um podcasters that we know 00:41:38.250 --> 00:41:41.909 we're good friends with them and they oh you 00:41:41.909 --> 00:41:44.730 know when they're teaching people and when they're 00:41:44.730 --> 00:41:47.889 advising they'll tell you we rarely play we play 00:41:47.889 --> 00:41:49.929 you know once or twice a month or something like 00:41:49.929 --> 00:41:53.630 that you know and that's not rare daddy well 00:41:53.630 --> 00:41:59.949 for us it is right my point is You might want 00:41:59.949 --> 00:42:03.889 that. You might want a couple or your mentor, 00:42:04.690 --> 00:42:08.989 you know, that does that. Let me ask this nephew, 00:42:09.170 --> 00:42:12.389 that podcast couple that you're talking about, 00:42:12.530 --> 00:42:16.050 how long have they been in this world, active 00:42:16.050 --> 00:42:19.929 in this world? Their ages? Or active in the lifestyle? 00:42:20.070 --> 00:42:21.829 No, I'm just saying, no, active in the lifestyle. 00:42:21.889 --> 00:42:24.190 You know I'm calling it lifestyle. How long have 00:42:24.190 --> 00:42:26.809 they been active in this world? I probably would 00:42:26.809 --> 00:42:31.449 say about five years. Five years? Yeah, because 00:42:31.449 --> 00:42:35.030 I know it's longer than us. Okay. But also, you 00:42:35.030 --> 00:42:38.909 know, they just don't know a lot of basics. Yeah, 00:42:38.929 --> 00:42:40.909 that's what I'm talking about. They're still 00:42:40.909 --> 00:42:44.389 learning. Okay? They're still learning. So they're 00:42:44.389 --> 00:42:47.050 taking it slow. Well, and one thing I really 00:42:47.050 --> 00:42:49.949 admire about them is they have a lot of trauma 00:42:49.949 --> 00:42:52.579 that they have put out there in the world. And 00:42:52.579 --> 00:42:54.980 they're sharing their stories of their trauma 00:42:54.980 --> 00:42:58.460 and overcoming certain things. As I said again, 00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:02.500 they're taking it slow because they've had some 00:43:02.500 --> 00:43:05.119 fuck -ups probably. You know what I mean? And 00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:07.400 here again, they're learning. They're learning. 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.699 And there's nothing wrong with that. There's 00:43:09.699 --> 00:43:12.900 nothing wrong with that whatsoever. If that's 00:43:12.900 --> 00:43:16.139 what works for them, then I'll freaking stand 00:43:16.139 --> 00:43:19.320 it. I'll stand it. Like I said before, you guys 00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:22.650 aren't the norm. You know what I mean? You all 00:43:22.650 --> 00:43:24.909 aren't the norm. So for them, they want to get 00:43:24.909 --> 00:43:28.230 everything right. And, and, you know, don't want 00:43:28.230 --> 00:43:30.610 to get anything wrong. So that is why they're 00:43:30.610 --> 00:43:32.989 concentrating. You know, when they're podcasting, 00:43:32.989 --> 00:43:34.929 they're podcasting. When they're learning, they're 00:43:34.929 --> 00:43:37.170 learning. You know what I mean? As I said before, 00:43:37.269 --> 00:43:39.489 crawl for you, walk, walk for you, run, run for 00:43:39.489 --> 00:43:42.010 you, leap. You know what I mean? Leap before 00:43:42.010 --> 00:43:45.150 you fucking fly. All right. So take, so take 00:43:45.150 --> 00:43:49.289 that shit, take that shit easy. And, and, and, 00:43:49.289 --> 00:43:52.710 and grow, grow as a couple. grow as a couple 00:43:52.710 --> 00:43:55.150 you know what i mean like you said before hell 00:43:55.150 --> 00:43:58.610 make this like a damn um you can make learning 00:43:58.610 --> 00:44:01.889 about uh or researching you can make this like 00:44:01.889 --> 00:44:04.050 just like it's a freaking term paper in college 00:44:04.050 --> 00:44:06.889 you know what i'm saying each of you each of 00:44:06.889 --> 00:44:09.909 you get different topics different subjects uh 00:44:09.909 --> 00:44:12.389 you know research research research then like 00:44:12.389 --> 00:44:15.449 you said have a a rainy sunday get in the damn 00:44:15.449 --> 00:44:17.070 bed don't never get out of that motherfucker 00:44:17.070 --> 00:44:21.179 and have a a Just a damn old day of just going 00:44:21.179 --> 00:44:23.500 over notes, going over notes, going over notes, 00:44:23.659 --> 00:44:26.440 you know, get as comfortable a with each other 00:44:26.440 --> 00:44:30.280 as possible, you know, uh, before you start venturing 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.059 out. Cause I mean, that's the key right there. 00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:36.659 That is the key. Um, a lot of times you think 00:44:36.659 --> 00:44:39.440 you're good and then you get out there and, you 00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:41.599 know, like I said, something happens and then 00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:43.619 that's it. Here we go now. Now we got to sit 00:44:43.619 --> 00:44:47.889 back. Okay. Do things happen? Yes, things happen. 00:44:48.110 --> 00:44:51.349 But if you've dotted every I and crossed every 00:44:51.349 --> 00:44:54.090 T before you go out there, then it'll be a simple 00:44:54.090 --> 00:44:57.329 solution to that problem instead of that problem 00:44:57.329 --> 00:45:01.489 maybe becoming, hey, we're fucked up now. So 00:45:01.489 --> 00:45:03.570 what they're doing or what other couples are 00:45:03.570 --> 00:45:08.570 doing, that's okay. That's all right. Like I 00:45:08.570 --> 00:45:11.730 said, everybody's got their own style. Everybody's 00:45:11.730 --> 00:45:14.820 got their own style. All right. I'm done. I love 00:45:14.820 --> 00:45:20.699 it. I love it. Yeah. And so moving on to the 00:45:20.699 --> 00:45:25.039 next one, recognize the difference between personal 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:28.760 anecdotes and generalized advice. What that means 00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:34.159 is in the research world, a personal anecdote 00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:38.820 is just you telling a story from your perspective. 00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:43.820 explaining it in a way that you think is good 00:45:43.820 --> 00:45:47.260 general information, but maybe it's not. Right. 00:45:47.340 --> 00:45:51.639 So at the same time, my mentor gave me some advice, 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.699 you know, and I've said to him, you know, that's 00:45:54.699 --> 00:45:56.780 a little too alpha for me. You know what I mean? 00:45:56.820 --> 00:45:58.880 Like there's a little bit too anecdotal for me, 00:45:58.900 --> 00:46:01.239 for you, because what you're talking about fits 00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:04.480 your life because you are an alpha male. You 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.699 know, this guy thinks in, and he'll tell you, 00:46:07.699 --> 00:46:09.829 I'm not saying anything secretly, you know, Like 00:46:09.829 --> 00:46:13.050 he thinks through the lens of the art of war. 00:46:14.030 --> 00:46:16.489 And I learned from it. We've sat down and like, 00:46:16.530 --> 00:46:18.730 let's go through chapter to chapter and break 00:46:18.730 --> 00:46:21.510 it down to me. You know, but that's anecdotal. 00:46:21.590 --> 00:46:24.030 And I know that's anecdotal. And I know that's 00:46:24.030 --> 00:46:26.230 great for some people who think in those terms. 00:46:26.349 --> 00:46:28.309 But the minute I got out the ghetto, I stopped 00:46:28.309 --> 00:46:31.230 thinking in terms of the art of war, you know? 00:46:31.489 --> 00:46:35.769 So, you know, generalized information is about, 00:46:35.829 --> 00:46:39.360 well, on average, right? If you have ever heard 00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:42.960 of the 80 -20 principle or the 80 -20 law, it's 00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:45.000 a principle that it's called, it's a distribution 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.480 principle. It's a principle on how things work 00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:53.659 out. 80 % of the world is average. 80 % of people 00:46:53.659 --> 00:46:56.280 do things in a normal way. Even if you're stepping 00:46:56.280 --> 00:47:00.260 away and you're leaving the norms of monogamy 00:47:00.260 --> 00:47:03.420 and you're getting into non -monogamy, there's 00:47:03.420 --> 00:47:05.420 an average of how people get into it. There's 00:47:05.420 --> 00:47:08.510 an average of how people act within that. That 00:47:08.510 --> 00:47:10.110 is where you're going to get your research from. 00:47:10.150 --> 00:47:13.070 Most people are studying averages. Now, I study 00:47:13.070 --> 00:47:17.510 what's called positive psychology, which is what 00:47:17.510 --> 00:47:21.469 are the 20 % of successful people doing? What 00:47:21.469 --> 00:47:23.349 are the 20 % of the people that are set aside? 00:47:23.550 --> 00:47:27.010 But realize that when you're listening to people's 00:47:27.010 --> 00:47:28.690 personal stories, that's a personal anecdote. 00:47:29.329 --> 00:47:31.730 What you want to learn is what's the average? 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:34.900 What is most people doing? Because that personal 00:47:34.900 --> 00:47:37.679 anecdote story might be great advice for them, 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.420 but it might have you fucked up. And so you always 00:47:42.420 --> 00:47:46.139 want to cross -check that. And then you want 00:47:46.139 --> 00:47:51.559 to ask yourself, when you're researching, what 00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:54.340 part of the ethical non -monogamy are you a part 00:47:54.340 --> 00:47:56.579 of? We talked about this earlier. And why? Why 00:47:56.579 --> 00:47:59.659 do I want to go towards that? Try not to add 00:47:59.659 --> 00:48:03.989 judgment in any of this. we all struggle with 00:48:03.989 --> 00:48:06.530 judging ourselves. We all struggle with judging 00:48:06.530 --> 00:48:09.489 each thought that goes through our head, what 00:48:09.489 --> 00:48:11.710 somebody else says, especially in the more important 00:48:11.710 --> 00:48:13.989 they are, you know, your wife, your spouse, your 00:48:13.989 --> 00:48:17.010 significant other, your business partner, right? 00:48:17.110 --> 00:48:20.650 Try not to judge while you're researching. You 00:48:20.650 --> 00:48:22.650 know, if you want to research and then after 00:48:22.650 --> 00:48:24.630 you come to a few conclusions with your significant 00:48:24.630 --> 00:48:27.269 other, yourself, then you can say, hey, is this 00:48:27.269 --> 00:48:30.829 right or wrong, good or bad, whatever your paradigms 00:48:30.829 --> 00:48:32.670 are. You know, is this something that's going 00:48:32.670 --> 00:48:35.690 to be positive? Do we like this? Right. You know, 00:48:35.690 --> 00:48:40.630 like don't pigeonhole yourself in your head before 00:48:40.630 --> 00:48:42.429 you even got started out there in the real world. 00:48:42.510 --> 00:48:47.989 You know what I mean? So with that being said, 00:48:48.090 --> 00:48:52.829 let's talk about the difference between partner 00:48:52.829 --> 00:48:56.250 research and solo research. So if you're doing 00:48:56.250 --> 00:48:58.289 it with a partner, I highly recommend, like I 00:48:58.289 --> 00:49:03.739 said, a shared thing. a note, a notebook, anything 00:49:03.739 --> 00:49:06.440 where you guys are both bringing your heads together. 00:49:06.920 --> 00:49:10.019 Because listen, you know, here's one thing we 00:49:10.019 --> 00:49:12.179 don't believe in. I don't believe, you know, 00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:13.840 it's going to be controversial. And if you want 00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:15.820 to have, you know, if you want to say something 00:49:15.820 --> 00:49:18.239 to me, hit me, hit us up on email, you know, 00:49:18.280 --> 00:49:21.260 the bull brotherhood at gmail .com. We now have 00:49:21.260 --> 00:49:23.460 an Instagram page, bull brotherhood, Instagram, 00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:29.300 you know, DM us the bull brotherhood. but I don't 00:49:29.300 --> 00:49:32.739 believe that we're all one sex. I think women 00:49:32.739 --> 00:49:36.380 and men are different. I think that brings certain 00:49:36.380 --> 00:49:39.559 personality differences, certain needs, certain 00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:44.400 viewpoints, certain feelings, and if your wife 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:47.179 is looking for it, trust me, I've never met a 00:49:47.179 --> 00:49:49.139 couple, and I'm not saying they're not out there, 00:49:49.260 --> 00:49:51.260 but I've never personally met a couple where 00:49:51.260 --> 00:49:53.519 the wife and the husband are looking for the 00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:56.320 same thing, valuing the same thing, and judge 00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:58.739 the same thing. So when you're doing your research 00:49:58.739 --> 00:50:00.380 with your significant other, keep that in mind. 00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:05.139 You know, if your wife is a feminine woman and 00:50:05.139 --> 00:50:07.760 she leans into her femininity, she's going to 00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:09.559 look at soft systems. She's going to look at 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:11.420 tone. She's going to look at the environment. 00:50:11.739 --> 00:50:13.420 She's going to look at how things make her feel 00:50:13.420 --> 00:50:16.059 comfortable, right? You want to research that 00:50:16.059 --> 00:50:18.920 and be open to listening to your wife. Whatever 00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:21.099 the dynamic is, let's talk in terms of femininity 00:50:21.099 --> 00:50:23.440 and masculinity because I think we can all agree 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:26.179 on those. Whatever you are, if you're a masculine, 00:50:27.459 --> 00:50:29.300 individual, then you're going to be looking at 00:50:29.300 --> 00:50:31.840 more facts and figures. You might be a more cerebral 00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:34.460 person. You might be a more analytical person, 00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.000 logical, right? You're going to look at things 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.659 like keeping yourself safe. You're going to look 00:50:39.659 --> 00:50:42.019 at, as a man, you're always going to get less 00:50:42.019 --> 00:50:43.739 play than the woman. Even if you're swingers 00:50:43.739 --> 00:50:46.219 and has to be equal, you're always going to get 00:50:46.219 --> 00:50:49.400 more play than your wife. I mean, your wife's 00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:51.179 always going to get more play than you. You know, 00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:53.300 the feminine always going to get more play than 00:50:53.300 --> 00:50:57.269 the masculine, right? When you do that together, 00:50:57.429 --> 00:51:00.010 you know, make sure you check with each other. 00:51:00.349 --> 00:51:02.409 If you have some findings and you're like, hey, 00:51:02.510 --> 00:51:05.090 you know, I figured out that I'm going to be 00:51:05.090 --> 00:51:08.449 a super alpha dominant male. And I'm going to 00:51:08.449 --> 00:51:10.530 steamroller everybody. You better check that 00:51:10.530 --> 00:51:13.030 with your wife, homie. You better check that 00:51:13.030 --> 00:51:16.309 with your significant other. What do you guys 00:51:16.309 --> 00:51:21.809 think? Any questions so far? No, you seem to 00:51:21.809 --> 00:51:24.449 be on a good roll there. You're definitely right 00:51:24.449 --> 00:51:27.929 with checking with the wife. But here again, 00:51:28.110 --> 00:51:32.550 all that should be discussed when we first get 00:51:32.550 --> 00:51:35.389 started out. You know what I'm saying? Even before 00:51:35.389 --> 00:51:38.989 we start doing the heavy research. That's when 00:51:38.989 --> 00:51:42.130 the two of you sit down and have that heart -to 00:51:42.130 --> 00:51:44.949 -heart as far as how you're going to do things. 00:51:45.190 --> 00:51:48.909 But, I mean, keep going. Well, and also I'll 00:51:48.909 --> 00:51:53.309 just chime in quickly. I think for us, we started 00:51:53.309 --> 00:51:56.710 out with like how things were going to go, right? 00:51:57.010 --> 00:51:59.389 And then we would just adjust along the way. 00:51:59.829 --> 00:52:03.150 Always before every splash. Yeah, before every 00:52:03.150 --> 00:52:05.889 splash mocha, we go over like what our current 00:52:05.889 --> 00:52:09.389 guidelines are. Like we've taken some out. We've 00:52:09.389 --> 00:52:13.010 put some new ones in. The ultimate goal just 00:52:13.010 --> 00:52:16.369 be moving towards, you know, because we love 00:52:16.369 --> 00:52:19.840 each other. And we know each other. We can give 00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.239 each other the freedom to not have as many guidelines 00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:26.900 because we know that we're doing each situation 00:52:26.900 --> 00:52:30.059 with nothing but love and the best interest of 00:52:30.059 --> 00:52:32.320 our partner in our mind, whether we're solo or 00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:36.780 together. So I think that's just important to 00:52:36.780 --> 00:52:40.599 just, you know, adjust as you go along too. Because 00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:44.760 every time, every time you play, every time you 00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:49.980 play, you are evolving. I say again, every time 00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:53.079 you have an encounter, you are evolving. You're 00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:56.139 learning something about yourself every fucking 00:52:56.139 --> 00:53:00.820 play date that you have. Okay? And if so, if 00:53:00.820 --> 00:53:04.260 you are very, very active, like you guys are, 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:06.320 you guys are learning something about yourself 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:10.340 each and every time that you guys play separately. 00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:14.320 And then you come back. And when you both reclaim 00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:17.579 each other, it makes your bond even stronger. 00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:21.380 So that way you can have, you can look at your 00:53:21.380 --> 00:53:23.420 checklist and you can say, okay, I don't need, 00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:25.559 we don't need this shit no more. We don't need 00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:27.699 this anymore. We're good on this. You know what 00:53:27.699 --> 00:53:29.760 I'm saying? So that's what I'm talking about. 00:53:29.820 --> 00:53:34.219 Every time you play, you evolve. You learn something 00:53:34.219 --> 00:53:37.039 about yourself. All right. And here again, that's 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:40.420 for not only the couples, but also for the bulls 00:53:40.420 --> 00:53:43.000 out there. You know, there's a reason that I 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:47.559 am the way I am now because of the years of play 00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:50.860 play like I did before all the fucking time. 00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.199 And now as I've gotten older, I've turned into 00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:57.780 the mentor and the teacher. And that's why I 00:53:57.780 --> 00:53:59.960 can go to Splash now and have a couple there 00:53:59.960 --> 00:54:03.659 and she can go do her thing. And I'm just proud 00:54:03.659 --> 00:54:06.699 of daddy watching her. You know, if I play, I 00:54:06.699 --> 00:54:09.079 play. If I don't, I don't. So that's that's what 00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:11.489 I mean. every time you play you are involved 00:54:11.489 --> 00:54:15.090 yeah and i think that's a big part too that really 00:54:15.090 --> 00:54:18.309 helped me like jump in leaps and bounds and the 00:54:18.309 --> 00:54:22.590 explore part of my research personality was being 00:54:22.590 --> 00:54:25.710 able to have those solo experiences because that 00:54:25.710 --> 00:54:29.280 allowed me once i you know saw for myself and 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.639 experienced for myself that you know just because 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:33.400 i made out with someone doesn't mean i was going 00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.199 to fall madly in love with them and they were 00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:38.519 going to suck my soul out of my body and so you 00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:41.099 know more and more guidelines have disappeared 00:54:41.099 --> 00:54:44.400 you know from our list as you know especially 00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:47.440 i have been able to experience more things one 00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:49.119 -on -one so that's just something that's helped 00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:53.440 me personally i love it i love you all right 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:55.500 well to kind of wrap up here as we're coming 00:54:55.500 --> 00:54:59.659 up on time I just want to finish up with a few 00:54:59.659 --> 00:55:02.639 closing statements. And then I want to share, 00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:07.300 you know, some of the books I've read and maybe 00:55:07.300 --> 00:55:13.280 talk to, you know, Brian and Siren on, you know, 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:17.119 what their best ways they learned. So in wrapping 00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:20.440 up, avoid, make sure you avoid, you know, the 00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:22.280 pressure to feel like you need to conform to 00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:25.300 a certain path quickly. Take as much time as 00:55:25.300 --> 00:55:29.739 you can. I, every person I get into, I mean that 00:55:29.739 --> 00:55:35.039 I talk to, or every woman I get into, I tell 00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:38.880 them, take your time. You might be like me and 00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:42.599 you might want to rush, but rush, taking my time 00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:45.400 is different than certain people. I was never 00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:48.420 going to take a year to figure it out. But, you 00:55:48.420 --> 00:55:51.980 know, taking my time meant, you know, me approaching 00:55:51.980 --> 00:55:54.340 Siren when I met her four months later as opposed 00:55:54.340 --> 00:55:56.800 to four days later. You know, like it took her 00:55:56.800 --> 00:55:58.880 four months to get involved. We talked about 00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:01.659 it about two weeks later and I was really patient 00:56:01.659 --> 00:56:04.039 and I was willing to wait for a lot longer. But 00:56:04.039 --> 00:56:06.179 because of who we are, you know, it happened 00:56:06.179 --> 00:56:12.500 fast. Embrace curiosity over certainty. It's 00:56:12.500 --> 00:56:14.460 okay to be uncertain the first couple of years. 00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:17.179 It's okay to be uncertain if you are in this 00:56:17.179 --> 00:56:20.960 five, six years now. But if you lean towards 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:25.530 curiosity, wondering how things work. wondering 00:56:25.530 --> 00:56:28.730 about, you know, how other people see things. 00:56:29.349 --> 00:56:32.670 That's really going to help you, you know. And 00:56:32.670 --> 00:56:35.530 then, you know, obviously us. We're a great resource. 00:56:37.989 --> 00:56:41.150 I know my man Michael C. from the Keys and Anklets 00:56:41.150 --> 00:56:45.409 podcast. He is, you know, is a coach. He will, 00:56:45.670 --> 00:56:50.570 you know, for a small fee, coach you up on every 00:56:50.570 --> 00:56:52.750 aspect of it. You know, this guy's been for a 00:56:52.750 --> 00:56:57.579 while. That's things that me and Mr. Morgan are 00:56:57.579 --> 00:56:59.679 going to start doing in the future. You could 00:56:59.679 --> 00:57:03.500 DM us. Like I said, email us, DM us if you have 00:57:03.500 --> 00:57:09.260 any questions. We're happy to answer. And then 00:57:09.260 --> 00:57:12.380 before I get started, do you guys want to add 00:57:12.380 --> 00:57:14.820 anything before I go over a list of books and 00:57:14.820 --> 00:57:17.820 podcasts and things that I recommend? Did you 00:57:17.820 --> 00:57:19.960 want us to say books that we've enjoyed? Yeah, 00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:23.199 yeah. Tell me the books that you've really enjoyed 00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:27.019 and has really had an impact on you. Well, I've 00:57:27.019 --> 00:57:29.079 read The Ethical Slut, of course, a couple of 00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:34.579 times. And then I'm reading Polysecure as well. 00:57:37.289 --> 00:57:39.150 I think the next one I'm going to read is that 00:57:39.150 --> 00:57:41.670 attached book that you're talking about. So just 00:57:41.670 --> 00:57:44.250 learning more and just trying to open my mind 00:57:44.250 --> 00:57:47.469 and understanding to more dynamics than what 00:57:47.469 --> 00:57:51.269 I'm in right now. And then, of course, experiences 00:57:51.269 --> 00:57:55.590 like this next week, we're going to Utopia, which 00:57:55.590 --> 00:58:01.429 is a cuckold event weekend. And so to learn more 00:58:01.429 --> 00:58:06.059 about that in person and then. Man, podcasts. 00:58:06.179 --> 00:58:10.260 I love O -Faces, of course. Keys and Inklets. 00:58:10.500 --> 00:58:16.219 And then there was one other one. I can't remember. 00:58:16.460 --> 00:58:20.380 But then I was just listening to some of my own 00:58:20.380 --> 00:58:22.119 podcasts this week, too, and being like, this 00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:23.780 is some good shit. I can't wait until it comes 00:58:23.780 --> 00:58:26.840 out. So plugging myself here, the Siren of Freedom 00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:32.719 podcast, and come check it out. And that's it. 00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:35.849 That's all I have to say today. Oh, thank you, 00:58:35.869 --> 00:58:40.210 Sexy Siren. I appreciate that. Unk, what you 00:58:40.210 --> 00:58:43.889 got, man? If it's books or experiences or you're 00:58:43.889 --> 00:58:47.889 a mentor, who do you learn the most? Nephew, 00:58:47.889 --> 00:58:51.650 you know what I'm going to say. I am the sitting 00:58:51.650 --> 00:58:54.570 male for a reason. Everything that I have learned 00:58:54.570 --> 00:58:58.469 in all of my years of this has come from OJT, 00:58:58.630 --> 00:59:03.610 on -the -job training. All right? Yes, I did 00:59:03.610 --> 00:59:05.889 have a handler, but once I got out there and 00:59:05.889 --> 00:59:11.670 got my feet wet and I started experimenting with 00:59:11.670 --> 00:59:15.750 the couples as far as how to get inside their 00:59:15.750 --> 00:59:18.449 head, how to talk to them, how to be around them, 00:59:18.710 --> 00:59:21.969 developing that damn chemistry. That's how I 00:59:21.969 --> 00:59:25.559 learned. That is how I learned. I just made contact. 00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:27.760 I just made contact here with, you know, old 00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:29.679 faces and keys and anklets in the last couple 00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.559 of years. And it's been great. And then, you 00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:35.059 know, everybody's family now, but I am truly 00:59:35.059 --> 00:59:37.739 the one that has learned this, learned everything 00:59:37.739 --> 00:59:42.179 from just experimentation, you know, experimentation. 00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:48.320 And look, people, I, the two, my two biggest 00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:55.159 mentors, Brian Morgan. Mr. Mocha, learn from 00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:59.019 a handler. Right? Now, I learned a lot from Michael 00:59:59.019 --> 01:00:02.699 C. And I'll say this once again. Everything I 01:00:02.699 --> 01:00:04.920 do right is because of the research and those 01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:09.159 boys. Everything I do wrong is on me. I don't 01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:11.900 ever, if I mess up and I got a listener like, 01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:14.539 well, I'll play with that motherfucker. And he, 01:00:14.780 --> 01:00:20.579 and I didn't like, that's on me. But I want to 01:00:20.579 --> 01:00:23.599 make that clear. That's on me. And you report 01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:26.440 that back to me, and I'll give him the feedback 01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:28.320 if you don't feel comfortable telling him because 01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.400 we want to know, and I want to make sure I'm 01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.219 sending quality out into the world. All right? 01:00:33.320 --> 01:00:36.019 I brag on my husband. Yep. So you ladies let 01:00:36.019 --> 01:00:44.980 me know. Exactly. So I want to just end it up 01:00:44.980 --> 01:00:48.679 with my long list so y 'all can just sit back 01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:52.820 and relax. I'm going to go line by line. So first 01:00:52.820 --> 01:00:57.539 I'm going to say, as an analyst, I highly recommend 01:00:57.539 --> 01:01:00.500 the RSS feed. I highly recommend Reddit. And 01:01:00.500 --> 01:01:04.360 I highly recommend FetLife. Also, I think it's 01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:10.519 SLS that has a really great blog section. Yeah. 01:01:11.300 --> 01:01:16.780 I think it's Swinger. SLS .com or something. 01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:20.440 I don't remember, but SLS has. SDC. SDC also 01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:24.719 has a great. SLS, SDC, as well as, and I don't 01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:27.460 mean Coach Alba, as well as AFF, Adult Friend 01:01:27.460 --> 01:01:29.480 Finder. They have a pretty good one, too. They 01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:32.360 had a good blog? Yeah. So. Yeah. I would start 01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.719 there. I would 100 % read The Ethical Slut. That's 01:01:35.719 --> 01:01:38.719 the Bible. My favorite book also is really good 01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:43.480 is Insatiable Wives. Dr. Lay. who we definitely 01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:48.280 want on this podcast, is a great resource. Those 01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:50.880 are the books that really helped me. Now, Outside 01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:54.179 of the Lifestyle, Attached is a great book. No 01:01:54.179 --> 01:01:56.360 matter who you are, no matter what you're doing, 01:01:56.679 --> 01:02:01.500 that is a scientifically proven, has been replicated, 01:02:01.980 --> 01:02:05.880 double -blind, duplicated, peer -reviewed, published 01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:10.539 research on relationships. Dating coaches are 01:02:10.539 --> 01:02:15.349 using it. you know, it took our relationship 01:02:15.349 --> 01:02:19.969 to the next level is attached. For men, for bulls, 01:02:19.969 --> 01:02:23.269 I'm going to recommend a couple of books. Now, 01:02:23.369 --> 01:02:26.409 you have to read this in tandem because some 01:02:26.409 --> 01:02:29.030 of them will get you off course. I recommend 01:02:29.030 --> 01:02:32.690 a small book that a guy by the name of John Gray, 01:02:32.849 --> 01:02:36.070 the big popular John Gray, if you're, you know, 01:02:36.070 --> 01:02:39.699 over the age of 40. He wrote a book called Men 01:02:39.699 --> 01:02:41.440 Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus. I don't 01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:43.139 recommend that one, but he wrote a small book 01:02:43.139 --> 01:02:46.719 called Mars and Venus in Touch. It's paperback 01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:50.000 only. It's a really good book on how to listen 01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.280 to women, how to understand them. Another great 01:02:54.280 --> 01:02:59.119 book that's not part of the lifestyle per se, 01:02:59.260 --> 01:03:04.039 but I know he's lifestyle friendly, is a good 01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:09.070 book called The Way of the Superior Man. By David 01:03:09.070 --> 01:03:11.869 Data. Oh, that book. I forgot. I read that too. 01:03:12.210 --> 01:03:15.210 That is a really good book. So even for a woman 01:03:15.210 --> 01:03:18.730 to read to help if your man wants that support. 01:03:19.150 --> 01:03:21.250 These are the things that you're going to learn 01:03:21.250 --> 01:03:24.869 that stabilize a man, makes a man stoic, makes 01:03:24.869 --> 01:03:27.269 a man understand how to interact with women. 01:03:28.530 --> 01:03:31.389 I also recommend, and I just recently did this 01:03:31.389 --> 01:03:34.630 and it took my game up, like me speaking to women. 01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:38.079 A whole nother lot is listen to smut. Listen 01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:42.579 to a good smut book. If you can, the women are, 01:03:42.739 --> 01:03:45.139 when you really, when you listen to these books, 01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:48.360 you understand how women's actual sexual fantasies 01:03:48.360 --> 01:03:51.860 are my guy. Oh my goodness. And it teaches you 01:03:51.860 --> 01:03:55.199 how to talk to women. When I did it, I first 01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:58.719 did it. Um, then siren, let me know if we need 01:03:58.719 --> 01:04:01.969 to edit this out, but. Can I share with you your 01:04:01.969 --> 01:04:04.230 response after I first learned? How about can 01:04:04.230 --> 01:04:09.309 I share it? Yes, go ahead. So sometimes I just 01:04:09.309 --> 01:04:13.429 casually scroll through, you know, our phones 01:04:13.429 --> 01:04:15.210 are open to each other. We can look and read 01:04:15.210 --> 01:04:17.670 whatever we want. So most of the time I'm just 01:04:17.670 --> 01:04:21.889 looking for titty pics. But after he read that 01:04:21.889 --> 01:04:25.750 book. And I saw the way that he was talking to 01:04:25.750 --> 01:04:28.250 other women, like it affected me emotionally 01:04:28.250 --> 01:04:32.369 in a deep way. And I did not like it. He was 01:04:32.369 --> 01:04:37.050 too good. So I requested that he stopped for 01:04:37.050 --> 01:04:39.309 a little while because I really just needed to 01:04:39.309 --> 01:04:43.349 get used to this whole new side of my husband 01:04:43.349 --> 01:04:48.610 that, you know, I hadn't even seen yet. So for 01:04:48.610 --> 01:04:51.449 a while there, I was like, I need to ease into 01:04:51.449 --> 01:04:56.309 that. Because it worked too well for me at the 01:04:56.309 --> 01:04:59.610 time. But I moved past that. I think you started 01:04:59.610 --> 01:05:03.210 up again, right? Yeah. A little bit. Like you 01:05:03.210 --> 01:05:05.389 said, I want to exercise it on you a little bit 01:05:05.389 --> 01:05:07.829 more. But yeah, I did. Just a little bit. Yeah, 01:05:07.869 --> 01:05:10.449 yeah. And he didn't do anything bad or wrong 01:05:10.449 --> 01:05:12.929 at all. You know, nothing against any guidelines 01:05:12.929 --> 01:05:16.329 that we had. But, you know, ladies, it's okay 01:05:16.329 --> 01:05:20.010 to let your husband know, like, whew. that was 01:05:20.010 --> 01:05:21.750 just a that was a little too much for me right 01:05:21.750 --> 01:05:24.869 now you know that's okay and I think that I was 01:05:24.869 --> 01:05:28.250 afraid of that for a long time is is just telling 01:05:28.250 --> 01:05:31.329 him like hey you didn't do anything bad or wrong 01:05:31.329 --> 01:05:34.190 it's just too much for me right now to handle 01:05:34.190 --> 01:05:37.829 and I believe any good partner will pull back 01:05:37.829 --> 01:05:40.909 even from something that they really enjoy if 01:05:40.909 --> 01:05:43.289 they can see that it's affecting their partner 01:05:43.289 --> 01:05:47.940 in a way that is not helping them grow so i just 01:05:47.940 --> 01:05:50.300 love and appreciate my husband for for giving 01:05:50.300 --> 01:05:52.400 that to me because that was a gift to be able 01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:54.920 to just have some time to get used to something 01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:59.079 and then you know bring it back in 100 100 so 01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:01.760 let's move on i don't want to keep y 'all too 01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:08.500 long for the empath um you know forums are the 01:06:08.500 --> 01:06:11.340 best you know there's facebook forums there's 01:06:11.340 --> 01:06:15.039 reddit forums There's FetLife forums. There's 01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:20.800 Telegram forums. Go to the forums. Really get 01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:24.760 to people. Most people in the ethical non -monogamy 01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:27.139 community are so open book. They're so willing 01:06:27.139 --> 01:06:32.440 to talk to you. Talk to them. For my explorers, 01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:39.639 I would say meet and greets, meet and greets, 01:06:39.699 --> 01:06:42.719 meet and greets. Munches, munches, munches, if 01:06:42.719 --> 01:06:46.079 you're on the king side. That's where you're 01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:53.840 going to want to really explore, talk to, see, 01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:59.559 feel, touch, you know, in a safe way. Podcasts 01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:03.199 for everybody. I'm just going to name the ones 01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:05.840 that I loved that really helped me. Swinger University 01:07:05.840 --> 01:07:11.309 is one, really great one. Normalizing non -monogamy 01:07:11.309 --> 01:07:14.070 is also dope. Obviously, I learned how to become 01:07:14.070 --> 01:07:16.429 a bull from the Keys and Nicholas podcast, period, 01:07:16.550 --> 01:07:19.329 point blank. I learned a lot through the Old 01:07:19.329 --> 01:07:21.849 Faces podcast. And I listened to these guys before 01:07:21.849 --> 01:07:27.710 I met them, well before I met them. I like Cuck 01:07:27.710 --> 01:07:30.269 My Life. If you're into Cuckoldry, they're awesome. 01:07:30.750 --> 01:07:38.369 We also know Venus. She's a great resource for 01:07:38.369 --> 01:07:41.329 the cuckold lifestyle. There's a lot of hot wife 01:07:41.329 --> 01:07:48.710 podcasts out there that you can listen to. My 01:07:48.710 --> 01:07:51.909 favorite, I don't think they post anymore, but 01:07:51.909 --> 01:07:55.670 they have a lot of stuff on there, is the Priory 01:07:55.670 --> 01:07:59.050 Society. And I'll put all these in the show notes. 01:07:59.170 --> 01:08:02.050 And I'll even put a lot, even more, an extensive 01:08:02.050 --> 01:08:05.550 list on the show notes of places I recommend. 01:08:06.250 --> 01:08:11.409 I love that podcast. And then the rest is up 01:08:11.409 --> 01:08:14.489 to you. You know, there's books, there's seminars, 01:08:14.630 --> 01:08:17.909 there's YouTube, there's TikToks, there's all 01:08:17.909 --> 01:08:20.729 kind of social media groups that you can go to. 01:08:21.489 --> 01:08:25.170 So that's it, y 'all. I hope I was able to share, 01:08:25.350 --> 01:08:29.989 you know, some good resources. I am an open book. 01:08:32.010 --> 01:08:37.680 You know, I am. Socrates LS on Twitter. We are 01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:43.220 the Bull Brotherhood on Instagram. Siren, you 01:08:43.220 --> 01:08:45.779 want to shout yours out? The Siren of Freedom 01:08:45.779 --> 01:08:50.819 on Instagram and the sirenoffreedom .com. I'm 01:08:50.819 --> 01:08:56.039 on X too, but let me see what it is. Brian, go 01:08:56.039 --> 01:08:57.640 ahead and say what yours is and then I'll come 01:08:57.640 --> 01:09:01.840 back to my X. Lord, I know my email is sigmamail27 01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:06.159 at gmail .com. And I think on Twitter on sigmamail27, 01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:09.500 I think that's what I am. Yep. And then you can 01:09:09.500 --> 01:09:13.260 always email us at thebullbrotherhood at gmail 01:09:13.260 --> 01:09:17.359 .com. In the subject matter, you know, if you 01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:19.520 were regarding an episode, make sure you put 01:09:19.520 --> 01:09:22.140 the episode. And then, you know, who you're talking 01:09:22.140 --> 01:09:26.220 to, either Mr. Brian Morgan, Sigmamail, or Socrates, 01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:34.300 or Siren. uh my x is vixen k ls and then it says 01:09:34.300 --> 01:09:37.079 siren when you get on there so i i wasn't able 01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:39.579 to change the handle to siren and i had already 01:09:39.579 --> 01:09:42.880 posted so if i figure that out in the future 01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:45.880 uh maybe one of my kids after they turn 18 can 01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:49.960 help me well all right if you cannot say one 01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:52.260 last thing yes sir yeah well you close it and 01:09:52.260 --> 01:09:56.180 out close out that's you um Ladies and gentlemen, 01:09:56.300 --> 01:10:00.060 Socrates and Siren have both done a great job 01:10:00.060 --> 01:10:03.000 tonight talking about researching this world. 01:10:03.140 --> 01:10:06.119 As I said before, I don't call it a lifestyle. 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:10.859 This is the world that I live and love, living 01:10:10.859 --> 01:10:15.380 and love 24 -7 as well as they do also. But please, 01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:18.979 as much as we sit here and talk about getting 01:10:18.979 --> 01:10:21.340 into this world and staying in this world and 01:10:21.340 --> 01:10:25.600 making it your world. Make sure that this is 01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:29.619 for the both of you before you venture into anything. 01:10:30.260 --> 01:10:33.539 I say again, make sure this is what you really 01:10:33.539 --> 01:10:36.439 want to do before you venture into it. Because 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:41.159 if it is for you, then you're going to have one 01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:43.939 hell of a ride. Your marriage is going to be 01:10:43.939 --> 01:10:47.180 one of the happiest ones in the world. Believe 01:10:47.180 --> 01:10:51.880 me. Same thing for the young men out there. My 01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:54.880 bulls. you know make sure that this is this is 01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:58.079 what you want okay because we would love to uh 01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:01.720 invite you and and open the doors and you know 01:11:01.720 --> 01:11:03.920 bring you into this world it's a beautiful thing 01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:08.399 and i'm good i'm good go ahead sock tape close 01:11:08.399 --> 01:11:12.479 it out close it out all right well here again 01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:14.619 ladies and gentlemen i hope that you have enjoyed 01:11:14.619 --> 01:11:20.350 another uh quality and informative uh session 01:11:20.350 --> 01:11:23.189 of the bull brotherhood and as i always say in 01:11:23.189 --> 01:11:27.050 closing to my bull brothers out there good night 01:11:27.050 --> 01:11:33.289 to my hot wives sexy sluts and unicorns good 01:11:33.289 --> 01:11:37.010 morning i'm the sigma male and for socrates and 01:11:37.010 --> 01:11:40.550 siren we will see you again another time Good 01:11:40.550 --> 01:12:12.479 night, y 'all. bold brotherhood luxury