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the bull brotherhood podcast where we talk power
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non -monogamy this is not your average lifestyle
podcast this is for men who lead men who master,
and men who leave a lasting impression. If you're
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go. Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and welcome
to another informative episode of the Bull Brotherhood
podcast. I'm one third of your podcast team,
the Sigma male himself, Brian Morgan, and along
with my family, the beautiful Siren. Say hello,
Siren. Hello. And my brother from another mother,
I call him aunt, excuse me, nephew himself, Socrates.
What's good, brother? Nah, I call you Unk. What's
good, y 'all? Excited about this one. Exactly,
I messed that up. Ladies and gentlemen, tonight,
as I said before, we got another very, very informative
podcast. But I am actually sitting this one out
tonight, taking the night off, and I'm letting
my nephew, Socrates, lead this thing. We're going
to talk about something that he really wants
to get into tonight, as well as I want to listen
to. And as a matter of fact, I'm going to turn
it over to him right now and let him discuss
exactly what he wants to do tonight. And to all
the people out there listening, really, really
get your headsets on. And he's got a lot to say.
Go ahead, nephew. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So, you
know, we could definitely want to include you
guys on your input on certain things. But, you
know, I am a big proponent of research. And so
we thought we'd do a podcast for you fellow nerds.
and other people who just feel better and operate
better with a certain amount of information before
you jump in. So, yeah, that's what we want to
talk about. So let's just get straight into it.
So we had talked about in the last episode, you
know, when we were talking about the certain
dynamics of cucks and the cuckold lifestyle,
we kind of got into our research. And I've spoken
of this before. The reason why this is so important
to me is because when I first got into the lifestyle,
I was like a lot of people. You know, I had an
ethical. I mean, I had a monogamous mindset.
What was that? You know, it was, you know, jealousy
as a signal to stop. Right. Anytime another person
touches your significant other is cheating. Right.
People cannot be trusted. And everything that
happens in porn and all of the bad news out there
in the lifestyle is exactly what's happening.
And even though I'm a really positive person,
when it came to this situation, I kind of got
into what's called a negative sorter. And that's
just when someone looks at something and they
need to make a decision. And some people look
at all the negative things first. They're not
negative people. They just kind of look at negative
things first. And they want to see all the negative
things that could go wrong. And then once they've
done that and they feel comfortable that they
have that under control, then they can start
focusing on the positive. And I'm usually the
opposite. But when it came to the lifestyle,
when I first got into it, you know, I was really
negative. And I was, you know, and here's the
thing. I did not know how to research. And, you
know, I had finally learned. I, you know, got
into what it takes to research. And I just want
to share. what, you know, the best way to go
about researching and why it's important. So,
you know, I don't like saying this a lot, and
I'm not bragging, but we have so little drama
in our relationship. And me and my wife go hard,
guys. Like, even though we've only been doing
this for, what, three years now? Three and a
half. Three and a half years. Three and a half,
yep. Three and a half years. Can y 'all believe
that? Even though we've only been doing this
for three and a half years, we've gone hard.
And we talk to a lot of people. I talk to a lot
of people. And they say, man, you guys go hard.
And so, you know. Let me say something. Let me
say something. Elaborate on what you're on. when
you say we go hard. You know what I mean? Because
a lot of the audience, they won't understand
what you mean when you say, I know exactly what
you mean. But that word hard, can you give a
definition of hard as far as what y 'all's dynamic
is and how much you may play, et cetera, et cetera.
Siren, you stay out of this. I already know what
she wanted to get. Her definition of hard is
full of blood and erect. No, I was going to say
thank you for stopping him and having that because
some people's version of go hard might be once
a month. Exactly. Other people's version might
be just when they go on vacation and they go
hard during that time. To answer that, for example,
when I first talked to Siren, I explained everything
to her. I tried to be as patient as possible,
try not to pressure her. And it wasn't until
she talked to another female in the lifestyle,
she felt comfortable. But the thing about her
is, ladies and gentlemen, once she's ready, and
this is all of life for her. Once she's ready
and set, she's ready and set. So she had talked
to her friend. The second she talked to her friend,
we had kind of like a tentative date to go up
to this club in Seattle called Sapphire. Amazing
club, by the way. Yeah, I recommend any of you
ever in that area. I recommend you check it out.
And she was like, OK, let's go. And I was like,
well, I'm in the middle of some business stuff.
Can we wait? And she's like, oh, she went anyway.
Didn't go inside without me. And just loved it
and was just, like, ready to go. And so the first
time we went, you know, I was like, hey, you
know, you don't have to, you know, be in a hurry.
We don't have to do anything, you know, you don't
feel comfortable with. You know, there's no rush
if we just want to, you know, just talk and get
to know people. She saw a very attractive brother,
you know, actually who just happened to be there
with a lesbian couple. and went up to him and
asked if she can feel his arms, and that was
it. I think we had played with three couples.
Like them, that group, another couple. She just
went balls to the wall. And then after that,
it was kind of slow only because we were trying
to find our way. But almost immediately, we got
hooked up with a local gangbang community here.
a guy that does gangbangs here big time. She
jumped into that. I think the first time it was
like 12 -man gangbang or something like that.
Then we found out about Splash. We've told that
story a thousand times. She went her first day.
Her jaw dropped literally. I mean, have you seen
them cartoons where people's jaw drops to the
floor? Her jaw dropped and their eyes are wide
open. She was stunned. All I needed to do was
take her up to the room, fuck her, and give her
a shot, and then she was gone. Now, on a good
month, we might have, oh, this is what I'll say.
A year ago, we had went to a, you know, Splash
Mocha. She already had a play date because she's
my slut secretary, which that means most of my
play dates go through her. She handles them.
She talks to the women. Women are much more comfortable
when they can talk to me or when they can talk
to the wife, knowing that I'm not, you know,
men are not playing any games. I'm not hiding
anything or anything. She had set up a play date
immediately after Splash. Since that time a year
ago, I have not had one weekend that I had available
to play or week that I haven't played. Her numbers
are starting to increase because we travel. So,
you know, in a typical month, we might have two
trips, you know, a play date once a week. And,
you know, we had spent the weekend with a couple,
and they were talking about their just crazy
phase. And I think we're in the middle of our
crazy phase right now. We're in the middle of
doing events, doing this as a lifestyle business.
Throwing our own parties, have our own separate
play dates, having our own separate, you know,
she'll leave town and do her own thing. We're
in the middle of it. So, you know. You're in
the born, you're in the born again phase. I like
that. I like that. The two of you are in the
born again phase. You know what I mean? And that
is, that's exactly what I want the listeners
to. Keep listening to and understand that every
couple is different. You guys did your research.
I don't know how much research you did before
you finally, you know, got out there and said,
hey, we trust each other enough to where we can
play, you know, separately. And, you know, she
can go on play dates to different places and
et cetera, et cetera. For a lot of couples, that
is not going to happen as fast as it happened
for you two. You know what I'm saying? A lot
of times couples might, it takes a while. It
may take, hell, it might take a damn year to
a year and a half before you ever venture to
any type of event, you know? Or it might take
a month and you go to an event and you realize
that, hey, okay, this is good, but you do some
extra research and then you go to something like
a Splash Mocha or something close to a Splash
and you find out, okay, we've evolved a little
bit more. Now we go to a Super Bowl like Splash
and boom, like I say, it's succotash. You know
what I mean? And so that's the different, that's
the different, that's one of the phases that
I call it. And like I say, it's the born again
phase. Okay, so I'm going to shut up. Keep going.
No, no, Unc, I love it. That's another episode,
y 'all. The phases of lifestyle. I like that.
I got to jump into that slow start business.
And when he means, I used to keep a tally, like
everything that we would go to, a club or a gangbang
or an event or even a solo play date. I used
to just keep all the dates on a little note.
And the first year, I got 67 dudes. So I don't
think that that was too much of a slow start.
But maybe he's talking about just the first couple
months was a slow start. And after that, it was
crazy. Here again, it depends on the couple.
You guys got in and both of you were turned on,
you know, not only by your individual, you know.
statistics and results, but as a couple, you
know, so you guys are definitely not the norm,
right? You're not the norm. Okay. You're not
the norm. And that does not happen often. That's,
that's all I want to, you know, the fans to know
that that does not happen often. So, you know,
hats off to you guys to be able to do that so,
so quickly. And here again, in, in just three
years, you pretty much have become, you went
from, you know, silver to gold and now you're
down platinum. So great job. Reaching for diamond.
I also want to say that, you know, one of the
reasons that we were like, well, the biggest
reason, and that's what this whole podcast is
going to be about, that we were able to move
through quickly like that because of the extensive
amount of research. that Socrates did in the
in -between time before I met him. When he was
in the lifestyle with his ex -wife, it was one
thing he was talking about, and he hadn't done
the amount of research that he did by the time
I met him. So he kind of had all of his rough
times there and then figured out, hey, I need
to do some digging. So that's what we really
want to... emphasize in this podcast is that
that's really what helped make it so much easier
and quicker for me personally as a woman um was
that he he had his ducks in a row he had his
framework he had all this research to back up
and it wasn't just you know willy -nilly all
over the place so that really helped so go ahead
babe he had a lesson he had a lesson plan he
developed a lesson plan And you followed it to
a T. Outstanding. Yeah, so I'm glad she told
that story. She tells it better than I do. But,
I mean, I pretty much made all of my mistakes
in my first marriage when it comes to lifestyle.
And I did not want to do that again to her, you
know. I really feel bad that I made those mistakes
with my ex, you know, because it caused a lot
of problems. It caused a lot of confusion. It
caused a lot of insecurities on her part. caused
a lot of drama that was unnecessary. One of the
things I did is I ended up in the wrong community.
And when I say wrong, I mean not a good fit for
me. So I was part of a half and half, what I
call half and half community. I won't mention,
well, I can. There used to be, there was a Facebook
group called The Red Room. It's mostly down south.
Shout out to all those people. Shout out to all
the people that I'm still friends with. Shout
out to all the people I'm not still friends with
because, you know, I was drama and problems in
there, too, because, again, here's the thing
about me. When I don't do research, I'm not like
most people. Most people can navigate and, you
know, lean back on some basics. I fuck shit up.
Facts. I fuck shit up. I'm not joking. That's
not a cliche. That's not something to get, you
know, clickbait. I'll fuck shit up. So I have
to research. And so we're going to talk about
the different kinds of, you know, things to look
for, why you should research and your research
style. I didn't even know about that until I
did some research on it. So there's different
research styles. The main reason why I think
you should research as much as possible, and
we'll get into the styles, so you don't have
to be like me, right? You should research as
much as possible. Now, I read several books,
listened to thousands of hours of all kind of
podcasts, talked to anybody that would listen
to me, and I'm going to tell you, literally half
the people after I talked to them, they did not
want to talk to me after that because I would
ask people questions so much that they thought
I was interrogating them. You know, I was just
really concerned about all the negativity that
could happen, and I wanted to do everything I
could to avoid it. So the biggest reason why
is because ethical non -monogamy is a huge umbrella,
huge umbrella. And so understanding the dynamics,
understanding that these are guidelines and not
boxes that you're going to be put in, not ways
to be judged, not strict lines to follow. but
guidelines to help you understand yourself, you
know? So there's being ethical, non -monogamous
is an umbrella under that umbrella. There's things
like polyamory, which involves, I figure like
that is the height of it because it involves
everything. I know people who are poly that have
romantic relationships, husbands, they got boyfriends,
they swing a little bit. They might have friends
with benefits, hookups, things like that. There's
emotions involved. Then there's just on the other
spectrum, there's almost the opposite of that,
which is swinging. Now, swinging is kind of those
catch -all phrases for some people. But for us,
it's just simply a couple who wants to even swap
or maybe they'll invite a single, most of the
time, a single woman and sometimes a single man.
But most of the time, their focus is on making
sure it's even, right? Then you have things like
stag and vixen, which is what me and Siren are.
And then you have cuckoldry. Then you have open
relationship, which is also a huge catch all.
That's kind of like we're not sure what we are,
but we're just kind of open to what happens.
And there's some basic framework. So you want
to find out at least what the options are. You
might not even know what you are or how you feel
or what dynamic works best for you. You might
have to go through years and years of trying
some things out, you know, months and months
of trying things out, you know, but I do recommend
that you look into those things and understand
those dynamics. The second biggest thing is what
I'm talking about, reducing conflict through
knowledge. Reducing conflict through knowledge.
you're going to have conflict with your significant
other. You're going to have conflict with other
people. I don't mean to scare you away. But again,
I've had very little drama. There's never been
a shouting match or violence or huge issues or
falling outs of anything. But I have seen it.
And that's another reason why I have seen people.
I've read stories of people, you know, hurting
themselves. There's a couple that were a guy.
pushed for a threesome, brought his friend in,
didn't, you know, I guess he didn't play sports,
didn't know his friend had a huge -ass dick,
dicked his wife down, he got mad, stabbed his
friend in the neck, and jumped out of the window
to try to commit suicide. He died, and his friend
who got stabbed survived. You know, I've heard
horror stories like that. You know, and countless
people who've lost their marriages and their
relationships. Some people have lost their jobs,
everything. So you want to be able to avoid losing
your job. You want to be able to avoid bringing
it to your wife and saying all the wrong things.
You want to be able to avoid going to different
events where the vibe is not good. Like, we just
went to one of our local clubs, and we love this
club. I mean, we know the owners. We love the
people there, but they had one. event one theme
that i knew in my heart i wasn't gonna vibe with
but i said you know what you know let's try it
anyway and it was a mistake you know so less
you reduce conflict through knowledge right avoid
misinformation from toxic or one -sided resources
right right now the not the monogamous tiktok
world is on fire after this pd stuff one of the
things that's infuriating me is how a lot of
monogamous people are correlating the ditty shit
with ethical non -monogamous people, right? So
there's a lot of toxic misinformation out there
about what swinging is about, about statistics,
about our STIs, statistics about our marriage,
how long we last. All of that stuff is in the
green. All of that stuff is positive. especially
when you move away from polyamory. And I just
think it's because polyamory in society is new.
But, you know, when you can avoid that toxic
misinformation, you avoid a lot of fears because
a lot of people walk into the lifestyle just
afraid because of all their friends and family
and, you know, social media misrepresenting it.
So, you know. Any questions from the two of you
guys before I move on? Because I want to start
talking about, you know, your research personality.
But anything I want to contribute on that level?
No, I'm just enjoying you speaking right now.
I mean, you're on the road. Keep going. I'm good.
Yeah. Okay. Well, so the next one is know your
research personality. So there's four research
personalities out there. There's the analyst.
This is the person that loves data, studies,
and structure, right? So good for reading books
and academic work. That's me, right? I'm the
guy who's plugged in. I got where it was, but
you can get an RSS feed, which is pretty much
where you get automatic information on a periodic
basis, either a monthly email or daily email.
And I sign up for all the college papers that
have been published. or made public regarding
ethical non -monogamy. That's me. I'm the analyst.
I will read, you know, right now I used to read
them. Now I just plug them in the chat and have
them give me the synopsis. But I read those things.
So I know the STI statistics. I know how it benefits
you, what the pros and cons are. If you're an
analyst, if you're an engineer, if you're a software
engineer, if you're a nerd of any kind, then
that's the one for you, right? You're going to
want to get those research feeds. You're going
to want to study the books. You're going to want
to study the papers. You're going to want to
look into statistically how things pan out. I
also want to, what I want to do is also tell
people, look, for those people who are analysts,
be careful of. analysis paralysis, right? Don't
go too deep in it because that rabbit hole almost
never ends you up in the right place, right?
I really recommend if you're an analyst research
personality type to write down what you want
to get. Acknowledge your emotional and intellectual
fears and have a cutoff point. Give yourself
a break. And make sure that you're not, check
your significant other. If they're not an analysis
person, then learn how to communicate with them
in a way that they understand. So then the second
part is the empath, right? This person learns
through stories, interviews, and community forums.
You know, like I said on the last podcast, there
are so many ways to learn, right? The second
best way is talking to people, right? Listening
to podcasts and listening to stories of people's
other experiences. But if you can get to somebody
that is similar to you, similar in your likes,
similar in your cultural values, similar in your
area, you know, you're similar in your direction
and ask those people those questions, you know,
you're in good. You know, it's always said if
you want something in life, find somebody who
has it and talk to them right so for the empath
find somebody if you if possible virtually either
through podcast or through youtube channels or
tiktok or anything like that find the people
that living the lifestyle the way you want that
you vibe with and sit down with them and Have
them share stories of horror stories and success
stories and some of the rules and philosophies
they have. That really helps people like that.
After that, there's the explorer. This person
needs firsthand experience, goes to events. On
the job training. On the job training. I think
this is Siren. Do you think that's you? Do you
identify with that? Well, finish reading it.
Okay. This person just has to see it to believe
it. This person has to be in that situation,
you know, smell, smell the room, right? Smell
the ambience, see people's. That would be me.
Yeah. Talk to me about it. Talk to me about it.
Why, why would you say that's you? And what are
you looking for as an explorer? I, I can, I,
I can tell you here again from personal experience.
Okay. When I got. when i got into this uh and
i've told you and the fans before that i just
you know i had a female handler so i did not
have we didn't have all of the you know the words
and and and you know and we didn't know what
a cuckold was and we didn't necessarily know
what a hot wife and this and that so we had to
to do the ojt i you know i had to do the only
job training i had to uh um talk You know, I
had to meet couples and I had to, you know, get
inside their head. I had to feel what they're
feeling. You know what I'm saying? And then here
again, through trial and error, as I, as I maneuvered,
say from each couple to couple, you know, from
each encounter, each encounter, I was able to
put together my own style from that. Okay. And
then here again. with with the experience factor
you know from year to year to year like i said
before i put together that lesson plan all right
i had a lesson plan for when i talked to stag
vixen types of couples i had a lesson plan for
when i talked to i knew that it was a true coupled
couple uh i had one for when i when i knew that
it was a a female -led relationship you know,
et cetera, et cetera. So that's what I mean by
sometimes ones can read and hear again. I can
sit here on the computer and I can read, read,
read, and read. But until I actually get out
there and experience it and feel it, and like
you said, smell it myself, then I can put together
how I'm going to be, you know, in that particular
lifestyle. And I think for, I know we're talking
about the couples here, but for the bulls who,
go through this also should go through this.
I think you can, yes, you need to sit down and
read. You need to sit down and read, but though
you need to be able to go into the situation.
And like I said, if you go to a splash one time,
go to a splash and go there with the mindset
of saying, I'm not trying to play with anybody.
I just want to sit here and talk. Okay. I want
to sit here and look, I want to observe, you
know what I mean? what style do I have? You know,
am I a real outgoing person and, you know, I
can approach everybody or am I like, like myself,
Sigma, and I sit back and I let you come to me,
you know what I mean? Because I'm reading, I'm
reading the room. So that's, that's what I'm
talking about right there. That's that, that
on the job training, that's very, very crucial
in my opinion, in this lifestyle, because it
is going to develop, you're going to develop
confidence. You're going to develop confidence.
You're going to develop that rapport. You're
going to develop an aura, a style, a charisma.
And all of that, once you get all that blended
into you, bam, you become a dangerous person
then. Word. I'm going to blow my husband's mind
right now with telling him what style I am. I'm
all three. And let me tell you how that works.
I think that I start off as an empath and I listen
to other people's experiences, kind of like a
referral. Right. You know, you have somebody
that's like, oh, Sally may cut my hair. They
were so great. You know, so I listen to that
personal experience from somebody I know and
trust. That's why when I got into the lifestyle,
I needed to talk to the woman. Right. He had
given me all of the book work part and I I did
that part, but it. didn't take me to where I
needed to go to get started. So talking to that
woman, that was the empathic part. Then came
the explorer part, going on the job training,
right? Going to that club in Seattle, experiencing
it for myself. And then once I'm into something
like that, then I become the analyst. It's like,
my husband don't give a shit about astrology.
But me and my hairdresser, we'll sit and talk
about it. We'll look up shit on the Internet,
all kinds of stuff, because I already had that
interest. So now with the lifestyle, it's like
now I want to read more books about it. Now I
want to listen to more podcasts and dive deeper.
So that's how the three work for me. But the
bulk of it, you know, that he does see especially
is that explorer part. So but I wanted once I
heard all three, I was like. It all ties together
for me. Well, actually, you're probably all four.
Oh, is there one more? There's one more. Oh.
Yeah. That's the connector. That person builds
a network, learns from trusted people in the
space. Yeah. So I am all four. So that's someone
who, you know. That's super cool. I love that,
Daddy. Oh, thank you. That's someone, I can think
of someone right now, I won't mention his name
because I don't want to speak for him, but that's
someone who I identify with, that person who
says, you know what, I don't want to just get
to know any willy -nilly person. I don't want
to just read from some person that I've never
met. I want to find the top of the top. I want
to get around the certain people that I like,
build that network, find somebody I know I can
trust, and then I'll ask questions. That person
might get in and jump in because they know they
can kind of navigate the basics, right? Other
people might chill until that time. You know,
I've known people who say, you know, I have a
friend who, they're a couple out here where we
live, and they were in the lifestyle for a year
before they did anything. And it wasn't until
they've built up a bunch of couples that they
trusted that they felt comfortable moving forward,
you know? So those are the four types, the analyst,
the empath, the explorer, and the connector.
And if you don't know which one you are, you
know, mix and match the styles. There's no right
method or wrong method to do it, right? Just
mix them up and try it and see where it takes
you. You know what I mean? I think that just
helped me in my whole life right now. Wow. How?
Wow. Just wow. Okay. This is what we would call
revelation. No, because I didn't really put all
that together about myself until I just heard
all of this. Hold on. Here's some revelation
noise, y 'all. Oh, it didn't work. What was it
going to be like? Oh, like a little sparkle.
Like that's the light bulb coming on. Yep. I
think I do this with lots of things. And that
actually makes me feel more confident now because
sometimes. I feel like we kind of talk about
that I don't even research. But knowing the different
kinds makes me know I do research, but I just
research in a certain pattern that works for
me. And that starts with being an empath and
going to the explorer, then the analyst, and
then the connector. I love it. Yeah. I'll have
to think of a way to reward you for this. Ooh,
I know exactly what. You don't have to think,
mommy. I got you. Okay, okay. Take a load off
me. All right. So where to start, right? Now
you've decided on your research personality or
you've picked one. Where to start? Well, if you're
an analyst, start with Reddit. I really think
you should start with Reddit. You know, go with
the sub, I think it's called Substack. of non
-monogamy, right? Put your filters in. And I
would definitely start with the ethical slut.
That is the lifestyle Bible. Now, it leans more
towards poly, but the principles in there are
so good. I even recommend it to a few of my kind
of like monogamish people or people that are
open -minded monogamous people because the skills
you're going to learn in there are so dope. You
know, if you're a connector, Then some of the
networks I highly recommend is Splash or, you
know, there is different communities out there.
There's actually even if people don't know, this
is actually a swingers like organization that
kind of operates like, you know, those organizations
that raise money and lobby. And what's that?
What's the name of that? I can't remember that.
Advocates? Advocacy? It's a different name. There's
swinger advocacy groups that you can join. If
you're an empath and you like to hear stories
or interviews or community forums, I would definitely
join a local club. They usually have groups you
can go to. If you're into the kink side of it,
I would definitely go to a munch. I would go
to every meet and greet possible. If you're an
explorer or an empath, I would go to meet and
greets. If you're a connector, I would go to
meet and greets just so you can find the networks
you should be a part of. Then conferences are
good. You know, Vegas always has one. The AVN
is a great place to go to. It's one of the great
conferences. Splash Mocha has several seminars.
A lot of them, I think Hot Wife Palooza has seminars.
So a lot of the events you'll go to, they'll
have seminars. FetLife is a great resource. I
cannot catch a date on there to save my life.
I haven't been able to meet anybody on there
or anything like that, but it's a great place
to find any local forums. Facebook groups that
are private that you might not know of, and they
have every single interest there is, you know,
from BBC parties to, you know, polycules to munches
to everything. Also, along with FetLife, you
also have Black to White. Black to White is good.
Yeah, btw .com, that's good. They actually have
the forums up there and a lot of people go up
there and, you know, I even have one up there
myself for the Bulls. And, you know, periodically
I go up there and I'll jot down a question and
you'll be surprised what guys come back with.
You know, we'll talk, we'll text for maybe an
hour about different topics. So that's a good
one also. Yeah, we got a guy off there for my
birthday this year. Yep, yep, yep. And then,
you know what, before I move on, I want to say
this, have fun with it. You know, if you're partnered
up and you guys are wanting to do research and
one of you are researchers and one of you is
not, you know, one of you is an analyst and the
other one is not, you know, have a date night
and say, we're just going to sit in the bed,
put some sexy music on, bring up our laptops
and ask some questions and research, ask chat
GBT, ask a friend, go online, you know, make
a night of it, make a date of it. You know, have
a shared, like, notes. Like, if you're an Apple
user, you know, you can share your notes, Android,
you know, whatever you guys do, whatever you
robot people do. Share notes with each other,
you know. Share the stuff that you've learned
throughout the week, right? So if you learn something,
you know, hey, I talked to one of my bullfriends,
and he was telling me, you know, this approach.
You know, today, one of my mentors, Mr. Mocha,
shout out to Mr. Mocha from the Old Faces podcast,
Mr. and Mrs. Mocha. He was talking to me today
about how I can increase my cuckold presence
and how I can, you know, get in front of more
cuckold couples and some of the mistakes that
I might be making today. You know, it's always
good to talk to people on that level. So now
we're going to talk about. How to fact -check
in a sea of opinions, right? So everybody and
their mama's got opinions. You know, we have
opinions, right? Everybody and their mama thinks
they know what they're doing. But if you're an
analyst, you know there's a certain way to fact
-check. So if you're on, for example, Perplexity,
which is a great app I recommend to all my analyst
guys if they don't know. It's an AI -based...
research app that only uses, you know, papers
and cites all their work and has specific places
where they draw from. So, for example, ChatGPT
draws from the web. It'll draw from social media
lies. It'll draw from blogs of people that have,
you know, their own agenda. But Perplexity uses
that. So if you're doing that, then. I would
really look. There's starting to be plenty of
papers that are, you know, double blind studies,
peer reviewed studies, replicated studies, things
like that. Make sure you vet your authors and
your speakers and the people that you're talking
to. So if they consider themselves an expert,
look into them just a little bit. You know, one
of the things that amazes me and I'm not going
to put any names out there is. And I only know
personally of one podcaster. I'm surprised at
how many podcasters spend way more time podcasting
than they do playing. And this isn't a judgment.
If that's you, no judgment. But for me, I wish
I would have known that when I first got started.
Because, you know, like I say, we go hard in
our opinion, what we think is hard. And I want
to hear from people that either have or are.
going hard right are deep into this you might
want like we follow um podcasters that we know
we're good friends with them and they oh you
know when they're teaching people and when they're
advising they'll tell you we rarely play we play
you know once or twice a month or something like
that you know and that's not rare daddy well
for us it is right my point is You might want
that. You might want a couple or your mentor,
you know, that does that. Let me ask this nephew,
that podcast couple that you're talking about,
how long have they been in this world, active
in this world? Their ages? Or active in the lifestyle?
No, I'm just saying, no, active in the lifestyle.
You know I'm calling it lifestyle. How long have
they been active in this world? I probably would
say about five years. Five years? Yeah, because
I know it's longer than us. Okay. But also, you
know, they just don't know a lot of basics. Yeah,
that's what I'm talking about. They're still
learning. Okay? They're still learning. So they're
taking it slow. Well, and one thing I really
admire about them is they have a lot of trauma
that they have put out there in the world. And
they're sharing their stories of their trauma
and overcoming certain things. As I said again,
they're taking it slow because they've had some
fuck -ups probably. You know what I mean? And
here again, they're learning. They're learning.
And there's nothing wrong with that. There's
nothing wrong with that whatsoever. If that's
what works for them, then I'll freaking stand
it. I'll stand it. Like I said before, you guys
aren't the norm. You know what I mean? You all
aren't the norm. So for them, they want to get
everything right. And, and, you know, don't want
to get anything wrong. So that is why they're
concentrating. You know, when they're podcasting,
they're podcasting. When they're learning, they're
learning. You know what I mean? As I said before,
crawl for you, walk, walk for you, run, run for
you, leap. You know what I mean? Leap before
you fucking fly. All right. So take, so take
that shit, take that shit easy. And, and, and,
and grow, grow as a couple. grow as a couple
you know what i mean like you said before hell
make this like a damn um you can make learning
about uh or researching you can make this like
just like it's a freaking term paper in college
you know what i'm saying each of you each of
you get different topics different subjects uh
you know research research research then like
you said have a a rainy sunday get in the damn
bed don't never get out of that motherfucker
and have a a Just a damn old day of just going
over notes, going over notes, going over notes,
you know, get as comfortable a with each other
as possible, you know, uh, before you start venturing
out. Cause I mean, that's the key right there.
That is the key. Um, a lot of times you think
you're good and then you get out there and, you
know, like I said, something happens and then
that's it. Here we go now. Now we got to sit
back. Okay. Do things happen? Yes, things happen.
But if you've dotted every I and crossed every
T before you go out there, then it'll be a simple
solution to that problem instead of that problem
maybe becoming, hey, we're fucked up now. So
what they're doing or what other couples are
doing, that's okay. That's all right. Like I
said, everybody's got their own style. Everybody's
got their own style. All right. I'm done. I love
it. I love it. Yeah. And so moving on to the
next one, recognize the difference between personal
anecdotes and generalized advice. What that means
is in the research world, a personal anecdote
is just you telling a story from your perspective.
explaining it in a way that you think is good
general information, but maybe it's not. Right.
So at the same time, my mentor gave me some advice,
you know, and I've said to him, you know, that's
a little too alpha for me. You know what I mean?
Like there's a little bit too anecdotal for me,
for you, because what you're talking about fits
your life because you are an alpha male. You
know, this guy thinks in, and he'll tell you,
I'm not saying anything secretly, you know, Like
he thinks through the lens of the art of war.
And I learned from it. We've sat down and like,
let's go through chapter to chapter and break
it down to me. You know, but that's anecdotal.
And I know that's anecdotal. And I know that's
great for some people who think in those terms.
But the minute I got out the ghetto, I stopped
thinking in terms of the art of war, you know?
So, you know, generalized information is about,
well, on average, right? If you have ever heard
of the 80 -20 principle or the 80 -20 law, it's
a principle that it's called, it's a distribution
principle. It's a principle on how things work
out. 80 % of the world is average. 80 % of people
do things in a normal way. Even if you're stepping
away and you're leaving the norms of monogamy
and you're getting into non -monogamy, there's
an average of how people get into it. There's
an average of how people act within that. That
is where you're going to get your research from.
Most people are studying averages. Now, I study
what's called positive psychology, which is what
are the 20 % of successful people doing? What
are the 20 % of the people that are set aside?
But realize that when you're listening to people's
personal stories, that's a personal anecdote.
What you want to learn is what's the average?
What is most people doing? Because that personal
anecdote story might be great advice for them,
but it might have you fucked up. And so you always
want to cross -check that. And then you want
to ask yourself, when you're researching, what
part of the ethical non -monogamy are you a part
of? We talked about this earlier. And why? Why
do I want to go towards that? Try not to add
judgment in any of this. we all struggle with
judging ourselves. We all struggle with judging
each thought that goes through our head, what
somebody else says, especially in the more important
they are, you know, your wife, your spouse, your
significant other, your business partner, right?
Try not to judge while you're researching. You
know, if you want to research and then after
you come to a few conclusions with your significant
other, yourself, then you can say, hey, is this
right or wrong, good or bad, whatever your paradigms
are. You know, is this something that's going
to be positive? Do we like this? Right. You know,
like don't pigeonhole yourself in your head before
you even got started out there in the real world.
You know what I mean? So with that being said,
let's talk about the difference between partner
research and solo research. So if you're doing
it with a partner, I highly recommend, like I
said, a shared thing. a note, a notebook, anything
where you guys are both bringing your heads together.
Because listen, you know, here's one thing we
don't believe in. I don't believe, you know,
it's going to be controversial. And if you want
to have, you know, if you want to say something
to me, hit me, hit us up on email, you know,
the bull brotherhood at gmail .com. We now have
an Instagram page, bull brotherhood, Instagram,
you know, DM us the bull brotherhood. but I don't
believe that we're all one sex. I think women
and men are different. I think that brings certain
personality differences, certain needs, certain
viewpoints, certain feelings, and if your wife
is looking for it, trust me, I've never met a
couple, and I'm not saying they're not out there,
but I've never personally met a couple where
the wife and the husband are looking for the
same thing, valuing the same thing, and judge
the same thing. So when you're doing your research
with your significant other, keep that in mind.
You know, if your wife is a feminine woman and
she leans into her femininity, she's going to
look at soft systems. She's going to look at
tone. She's going to look at the environment.
She's going to look at how things make her feel
comfortable, right? You want to research that
and be open to listening to your wife. Whatever
the dynamic is, let's talk in terms of femininity
and masculinity because I think we can all agree
on those. Whatever you are, if you're a masculine,
individual, then you're going to be looking at
more facts and figures. You might be a more cerebral
person. You might be a more analytical person,
logical, right? You're going to look at things
like keeping yourself safe. You're going to look
at, as a man, you're always going to get less
play than the woman. Even if you're swingers
and has to be equal, you're always going to get
more play than your wife. I mean, your wife's
always going to get more play than you. You know,
the feminine always going to get more play than
the masculine, right? When you do that together,
you know, make sure you check with each other.
If you have some findings and you're like, hey,
you know, I figured out that I'm going to be
a super alpha dominant male. And I'm going to
steamroller everybody. You better check that
with your wife, homie. You better check that
with your significant other. What do you guys
think? Any questions so far? No, you seem to
be on a good roll there. You're definitely right
with checking with the wife. But here again,
all that should be discussed when we first get
started out. You know what I'm saying? Even before
we start doing the heavy research. That's when
the two of you sit down and have that heart -to
-heart as far as how you're going to do things.
But, I mean, keep going. Well, and also I'll
just chime in quickly. I think for us, we started
out with like how things were going to go, right?
And then we would just adjust along the way.
Always before every splash. Yeah, before every
splash mocha, we go over like what our current
guidelines are. Like we've taken some out. We've
put some new ones in. The ultimate goal just
be moving towards, you know, because we love
each other. And we know each other. We can give
each other the freedom to not have as many guidelines
because we know that we're doing each situation
with nothing but love and the best interest of
our partner in our mind, whether we're solo or
together. So I think that's just important to
just, you know, adjust as you go along too. Because
every time, every time you play, every time you
play, you are evolving. I say again, every time
you have an encounter, you are evolving. You're
learning something about yourself every fucking
play date that you have. Okay? And if so, if
you are very, very active, like you guys are,
you guys are learning something about yourself
each and every time that you guys play separately.
And then you come back. And when you both reclaim
each other, it makes your bond even stronger.
So that way you can have, you can look at your
checklist and you can say, okay, I don't need,
we don't need this shit no more. We don't need
this anymore. We're good on this. You know what
I'm saying? So that's what I'm talking about.
Every time you play, you evolve. You learn something
about yourself. All right. And here again, that's
for not only the couples, but also for the bulls
out there. You know, there's a reason that I
am the way I am now because of the years of play
play like I did before all the fucking time.
And now as I've gotten older, I've turned into
the mentor and the teacher. And that's why I
can go to Splash now and have a couple there
and she can go do her thing. And I'm just proud
of daddy watching her. You know, if I play, I
play. If I don't, I don't. So that's that's what
I mean. every time you play you are involved
yeah and i think that's a big part too that really
helped me like jump in leaps and bounds and the
explore part of my research personality was being
able to have those solo experiences because that
allowed me once i you know saw for myself and
experienced for myself that you know just because
i made out with someone doesn't mean i was going
to fall madly in love with them and they were
going to suck my soul out of my body and so you
know more and more guidelines have disappeared
you know from our list as you know especially
i have been able to experience more things one
-on -one so that's just something that's helped
me personally i love it i love you all right
well to kind of wrap up here as we're coming
up on time I just want to finish up with a few
closing statements. And then I want to share,
you know, some of the books I've read and maybe
talk to, you know, Brian and Siren on, you know,
what their best ways they learned. So in wrapping
up, avoid, make sure you avoid, you know, the
pressure to feel like you need to conform to
a certain path quickly. Take as much time as
you can. I, every person I get into, I mean that
I talk to, or every woman I get into, I tell
them, take your time. You might be like me and
you might want to rush, but rush, taking my time
is different than certain people. I was never
going to take a year to figure it out. But, you
know, taking my time meant, you know, me approaching
Siren when I met her four months later as opposed
to four days later. You know, like it took her
four months to get involved. We talked about
it about two weeks later and I was really patient
and I was willing to wait for a lot longer. But
because of who we are, you know, it happened
fast. Embrace curiosity over certainty. It's
okay to be uncertain the first couple of years.
It's okay to be uncertain if you are in this
five, six years now. But if you lean towards
curiosity, wondering how things work. wondering
about, you know, how other people see things.
That's really going to help you, you know. And
then, you know, obviously us. We're a great resource.
I know my man Michael C. from the Keys and Anklets
podcast. He is, you know, is a coach. He will,
you know, for a small fee, coach you up on every
aspect of it. You know, this guy's been for a
while. That's things that me and Mr. Morgan are
going to start doing in the future. You could
DM us. Like I said, email us, DM us if you have
any questions. We're happy to answer. And then
before I get started, do you guys want to add
anything before I go over a list of books and
podcasts and things that I recommend? Did you
want us to say books that we've enjoyed? Yeah,
yeah. Tell me the books that you've really enjoyed
and has really had an impact on you. Well, I've
read The Ethical Slut, of course, a couple of
times. And then I'm reading Polysecure as well.
I think the next one I'm going to read is that
attached book that you're talking about. So just
learning more and just trying to open my mind
and understanding to more dynamics than what
I'm in right now. And then, of course, experiences
like this next week, we're going to Utopia, which
is a cuckold event weekend. And so to learn more
about that in person and then. Man, podcasts.
I love O -Faces, of course. Keys and Inklets.
And then there was one other one. I can't remember.
But then I was just listening to some of my own
podcasts this week, too, and being like, this
is some good shit. I can't wait until it comes
out. So plugging myself here, the Siren of Freedom
podcast, and come check it out. And that's it.
That's all I have to say today. Oh, thank you,
Sexy Siren. I appreciate that. Unk, what you
got, man? If it's books or experiences or you're
a mentor, who do you learn the most? Nephew,
you know what I'm going to say. I am the sitting
male for a reason. Everything that I have learned
in all of my years of this has come from OJT,
on -the -job training. All right? Yes, I did
have a handler, but once I got out there and
got my feet wet and I started experimenting with
the couples as far as how to get inside their
head, how to talk to them, how to be around them,
developing that damn chemistry. That's how I
learned. That is how I learned. I just made contact.
I just made contact here with, you know, old
faces and keys and anklets in the last couple
of years. And it's been great. And then, you
know, everybody's family now, but I am truly
the one that has learned this, learned everything
from just experimentation, you know, experimentation.
And look, people, I, the two, my two biggest
mentors, Brian Morgan. Mr. Mocha, learn from
a handler. Right? Now, I learned a lot from Michael
C. And I'll say this once again. Everything I
do right is because of the research and those
boys. Everything I do wrong is on me. I don't
ever, if I mess up and I got a listener like,
well, I'll play with that motherfucker. And he,
and I didn't like, that's on me. But I want to
make that clear. That's on me. And you report
that back to me, and I'll give him the feedback
if you don't feel comfortable telling him because
we want to know, and I want to make sure I'm
sending quality out into the world. All right?
I brag on my husband. Yep. So you ladies let
me know. Exactly. So I want to just end it up
with my long list so y 'all can just sit back
and relax. I'm going to go line by line. So first
I'm going to say, as an analyst, I highly recommend
the RSS feed. I highly recommend Reddit. And
I highly recommend FetLife. Also, I think it's
SLS that has a really great blog section. Yeah.
I think it's Swinger. SLS .com or something.
I don't remember, but SLS has. SDC. SDC also
has a great. SLS, SDC, as well as, and I don't
mean Coach Alba, as well as AFF, Adult Friend
Finder. They have a pretty good one, too. They
had a good blog? Yeah. So. Yeah. I would start
there. I would 100 % read The Ethical Slut. That's
the Bible. My favorite book also is really good
is Insatiable Wives. Dr. Lay. who we definitely
want on this podcast, is a great resource. Those
are the books that really helped me. Now, Outside
of the Lifestyle, Attached is a great book. No
matter who you are, no matter what you're doing,
that is a scientifically proven, has been replicated,
double -blind, duplicated, peer -reviewed, published
research on relationships. Dating coaches are
using it. you know, it took our relationship
to the next level is attached. For men, for bulls,
I'm going to recommend a couple of books. Now,
you have to read this in tandem because some
of them will get you off course. I recommend
a small book that a guy by the name of John Gray,
the big popular John Gray, if you're, you know,
over the age of 40. He wrote a book called Men
Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus. I don't
recommend that one, but he wrote a small book
called Mars and Venus in Touch. It's paperback
only. It's a really good book on how to listen
to women, how to understand them. Another great
book that's not part of the lifestyle per se,
but I know he's lifestyle friendly, is a good
book called The Way of the Superior Man. By David
Data. Oh, that book. I forgot. I read that too.
That is a really good book. So even for a woman
to read to help if your man wants that support.
These are the things that you're going to learn
that stabilize a man, makes a man stoic, makes
a man understand how to interact with women.
I also recommend, and I just recently did this
and it took my game up, like me speaking to women.
A whole nother lot is listen to smut. Listen
to a good smut book. If you can, the women are,
when you really, when you listen to these books,
you understand how women's actual sexual fantasies
are my guy. Oh my goodness. And it teaches you
how to talk to women. When I did it, I first
did it. Um, then siren, let me know if we need
to edit this out, but. Can I share with you your
response after I first learned? How about can
I share it? Yes, go ahead. So sometimes I just
casually scroll through, you know, our phones
are open to each other. We can look and read
whatever we want. So most of the time I'm just
looking for titty pics. But after he read that
book. And I saw the way that he was talking to
other women, like it affected me emotionally
in a deep way. And I did not like it. He was
too good. So I requested that he stopped for
a little while because I really just needed to
get used to this whole new side of my husband
that, you know, I hadn't even seen yet. So for
a while there, I was like, I need to ease into
that. Because it worked too well for me at the
time. But I moved past that. I think you started
up again, right? Yeah. A little bit. Like you
said, I want to exercise it on you a little bit
more. But yeah, I did. Just a little bit. Yeah,
yeah. And he didn't do anything bad or wrong
at all. You know, nothing against any guidelines
that we had. But, you know, ladies, it's okay
to let your husband know, like, whew. that was
just a that was a little too much for me right
now you know that's okay and I think that I was
afraid of that for a long time is is just telling
him like hey you didn't do anything bad or wrong
it's just too much for me right now to handle
and I believe any good partner will pull back
even from something that they really enjoy if
they can see that it's affecting their partner
in a way that is not helping them grow so i just
love and appreciate my husband for for giving
that to me because that was a gift to be able
to just have some time to get used to something
and then you know bring it back in 100 100 so
let's move on i don't want to keep y 'all too
long for the empath um you know forums are the
best you know there's facebook forums there's
reddit forums There's FetLife forums. There's
Telegram forums. Go to the forums. Really get
to people. Most people in the ethical non -monogamy
community are so open book. They're so willing
to talk to you. Talk to them. For my explorers,
I would say meet and greets, meet and greets,
meet and greets. Munches, munches, munches, if
you're on the king side. That's where you're
going to want to really explore, talk to, see,
feel, touch, you know, in a safe way. Podcasts
for everybody. I'm just going to name the ones
that I loved that really helped me. Swinger University
is one, really great one. Normalizing non -monogamy
is also dope. Obviously, I learned how to become
a bull from the Keys and Nicholas podcast, period,
point blank. I learned a lot through the Old
Faces podcast. And I listened to these guys before
I met them, well before I met them. I like Cuck
My Life. If you're into Cuckoldry, they're awesome.
We also know Venus. She's a great resource for
the cuckold lifestyle. There's a lot of hot wife
podcasts out there that you can listen to. My
favorite, I don't think they post anymore, but
they have a lot of stuff on there, is the Priory
Society. And I'll put all these in the show notes.
And I'll even put a lot, even more, an extensive
list on the show notes of places I recommend.
I love that podcast. And then the rest is up
to you. You know, there's books, there's seminars,
there's YouTube, there's TikToks, there's all
kind of social media groups that you can go to.
So that's it, y 'all. I hope I was able to share,
you know, some good resources. I am an open book.
You know, I am. Socrates LS on Twitter. We are
the Bull Brotherhood on Instagram. Siren, you
want to shout yours out? The Siren of Freedom
on Instagram and the sirenoffreedom .com. I'm
on X too, but let me see what it is. Brian, go
ahead and say what yours is and then I'll come
back to my X. Lord, I know my email is sigmamail27
at gmail .com. And I think on Twitter on sigmamail27,
I think that's what I am. Yep. And then you can
always email us at thebullbrotherhood at gmail
.com. In the subject matter, you know, if you
were regarding an episode, make sure you put
the episode. And then, you know, who you're talking
to, either Mr. Brian Morgan, Sigmamail, or Socrates,
or Siren. uh my x is vixen k ls and then it says
siren when you get on there so i i wasn't able
to change the handle to siren and i had already
posted so if i figure that out in the future
uh maybe one of my kids after they turn 18 can
help me well all right if you cannot say one
last thing yes sir yeah well you close it and
out close out that's you um Ladies and gentlemen,
Socrates and Siren have both done a great job
tonight talking about researching this world.
As I said before, I don't call it a lifestyle.
This is the world that I live and love, living
and love 24 -7 as well as they do also. But please,
as much as we sit here and talk about getting
into this world and staying in this world and
making it your world. Make sure that this is
for the both of you before you venture into anything.
I say again, make sure this is what you really
want to do before you venture into it. Because
if it is for you, then you're going to have one
hell of a ride. Your marriage is going to be
one of the happiest ones in the world. Believe
me. Same thing for the young men out there. My
bulls. you know make sure that this is this is
what you want okay because we would love to uh
invite you and and open the doors and you know
bring you into this world it's a beautiful thing
and i'm good i'm good go ahead sock tape close
it out close it out all right well here again
ladies and gentlemen i hope that you have enjoyed
another uh quality and informative uh session
of the bull brotherhood and as i always say in
closing to my bull brothers out there good night
to my hot wives sexy sluts and unicorns good
morning i'm the sigma male and for socrates and
siren we will see you again another time Good
night, y 'all. bold brotherhood luxury