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This brotherhood's for men whose stories need

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to be told. This brotherhood's for men whose

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stories need to be told. Say it loud. Say it

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loud. This is who we are, bold, confident, and

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seductive. Dominant and classy, we're standing

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tall, never fall. Bull Brotherhood, luxury untold.

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Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and welcome

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to another episode of the Bull Brotherhood podcast.

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I'm one third of your host team, Mr. Brian Morgan,

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a .k .a. the Sigma Male, with the Alpha Presence.

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And I have the pleasure this evening of podcasting

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with my other two hosts. And they are a married

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couple, as you know. They are the lovely Siren

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and, of course, Mr. Socrates himself. And ladies

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and gentlemen, we're going to talk to you tonight

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about different topics. Topics such as kink,

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other well -deserved topics in the hot -wifing

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lifestyle. But to give you just an example of

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what the Bull Brotherhood is all about, our mission

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statement is to bring quality men together. And

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through teaching and mentoring. giving them the

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ability to come into a relationship and take

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sexual mastery over another man's wife, i .e.

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his hot wife, at the invitation. And what we're

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doing, Bulls, we're changing lives one stroke

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at a time. And here again, here are my two podcasts,

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Partners in Crime, Socrates and Siren. How's

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everybody doing tonight? We're doing good, Mr.

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Morgan. What's good? What's good, Unc? What's

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good? Hey, man. Pleasure to be here, baby. Pleasure

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to be here with my family. Yes, yes. So we're

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going to finish our episode. This is our pilot

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episode, and it's going to be 2 .0. So we're

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just finishing the conversation. We had a great

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conversation. And what we're talking about is

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our perspective on the lifestyle. The last thing

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we talked about, you know, was swingers and how

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they feel about jealousy and all those things.

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So the next thing we're going to talk about from

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our perspective is kink. Kink is really a separate

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distinction, but we're going to have Mr. Morgan

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tell us what, you know, his perspective on kink

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from the Bulls. Well, first of all, family, let's

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bring in the definition of what kink really means

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to us. And kink is like any sexual practice that

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is, say, unconventional. OK, or any taste or

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behavior that's unconventional. People think

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of kink like being. um something sort of like

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like bdsm you know which is bondage dominance

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sadism masochism but kink actually goes beyond

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just that you know um we have just like i said

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your regular vanilla sex which is you know husband

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and wife i .e making love etc etc but it goes

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so much it goes so much past that you know because

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like if let's say vanilla If vanilla is like

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your most popular flavor of ice cream, it doesn't

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mean that it's the only type of ice cream that's

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good. You know, you can try other things. And

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that's what kink is. OK, that's what I believe

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it is in this in this lifestyle. And let's talk

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about, say, how you develop your kinks. And I'm

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going to ask the question to my to my to my family.

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How do you guys develop your kinks? Well. When

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someone asks me what my kink is, I've always

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struggled with that for a while. And I kind of

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define it just as something, you know, like you

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said, above and beyond that turns me on. And

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I really haven't come up with too much. But I

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do know that when a man is loud during sex, I

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guess I would consider that a kink for me because

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that really gets me going. And then if he's about

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to come, And he starts hollering, then, like,

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I'm squirting all over that dick for sure. You

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know, so I guess that is a kink for me. I don't

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know. Like, that's, I guess I need more context

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and I need more, I need more ideas. I need a

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multiple choice quiz, Mr. Morgan. Okay, well,

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let me ask, let me ask, let me ask both of you,

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let me ask both of you, both of you this question,

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all right? What are your and I'll start with

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Socrates? What type, what types of kinks? I'm

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a nerd, so I had to turn to Chad GBT. But before

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I give that, you know, I have one thing I say

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all the time is feedback is my king. And I don't

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really know if that applies, but I do shibari,

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which is, for those who don't know, shibari is

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a Japanese style of rope play that has a lot

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more to do with the time you put into it and

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the attention you put into it and the aesthetic.

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of the rope so you're not just tying somebody

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up you're actually tying them up in a way that

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makes them aesthetically pleasing and there's

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also suspension into it so i know that shibari

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falls under the kink um umbrella so what i'll

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do is i'll read it so from chad gbt uh sexual

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content is a non -traditional or unconventional

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sexual preference interest or behavior that falls

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outside of what's considered vanilla or mainstream.

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This can include specific fetishes, power dynamics

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such as BDM, BDSM, or role -playing. So when

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it comes to the power dynamics, I would say the

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power exchange between the bull, cuck, and cuckoldress

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is a kink. um and i would say absolutely the

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power dynamics of what's of what's called a rigor

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i'm gonna be really careful about that word r

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-i -g -g -e -r which is somebody who does oh

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yeah somebody oh yeah somebody who does the rope

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rope play and suspension and the rope bunny which

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is also not political or anything like that we're

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not talking about skin color but a rope bunny

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is someone who's a submissive who likes to be

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uh restrained with rope so Those are my kinks.

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I enjoy Shabari, even though I don't do it a

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lot. It's a lot of energy and time. You know,

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I enjoy the power exchange that happens between

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bulls, cucks, and cuckoldresses. So I don't know

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if that answers your question, but that's where

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I come. That kind of gave me more idea of what

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my kink is then. I guess I just, I haven't had

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a lot of opportunity to explore it too much,

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but I just always had this idea that I wanted

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to dominate a man, but I don't. tend to want

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to do that like i never want to dominate my husband

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i want to be dominated and most of the time i

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want to be dominated by my play partner in the

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in the scene this last year we played with a

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couple and i did what's called cuck sitting where

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i dominated the cuck with the wife's permission

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Well, they tried, but that's another story. We'll

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get into that one, that story later. But I'd

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never tried it before. And I really liked it.

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I liked it a lot. And it's just the idea of,

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first of all, it's not my husband, right? And

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I'm borrowing the power from the wife. Like she

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gave me the key to his cage and everything. So

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it's just a borrowed power. And so that makes

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it fun. I know that she wants me to do it. I

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know that he wants it done. And the enjoyment

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that they got out of it, well, everyone in the

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room got out of it, made it a lot of fun. So

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in other words, you got your dominatrix on in

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other words. Oh, yes. They had a whole outfit,

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a flogger, the whole nine yards. So I still have

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something in there that I want. And this guy

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wasn't like a small man as far as stature. He's

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pretty tall. But I do also want, and I don't

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know if it will be a cuck or something else,

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but a larger man, like 6 '5", like a big, burly

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guy. The guy I know could snap me in half if

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he wanted to. Football player type, bodybuilder

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type. I want to dominate a guy like that. And

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it's not something I want to do all the time,

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but it's fun little. break from you know everything

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else that i do in the lifestyle there are many

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there are many gentlemen out there who have those

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um kinks and believe me i actually know a couple

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i won't say any names or say what you know profession

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that they are in but they are they do fit that

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deal 6363 250 plus and and they are very much

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dominant when they're out there doing their job

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but They like a little kink every now and then

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of being dominated. And when they want to be

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dominated, they want to be completely submissive

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and told every any and everything. And they're

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going to follow their dominatrix or whoever is

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dominant, usually another woman, you know, to

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a T. So if you're listening, fellas, you can

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look me up on Siren. I hear you. I hear you.

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On a few different forms. Get in contact with

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me. Send me your height, your weight. Exactly.

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Exactly. Well, since you guys gave me your type

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of kinks, I will give you mine. Yes, please.

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Mine. Mine is actually. Mine is. Well, look,

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everybody talks about, of course, BDSM in the

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kink world. I am not other than being a dominant

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bull sexually and everything. I really don't

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dabble in the BDSM world. I don't. Not the sadism,

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masochism, not the bondage, etc. I do like to

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change up every now and then and get my voyeur

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on and watch my baby girl do her thing. Whether

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she's having sex with a male or she becomes that

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dominant bisexual female that she can be and

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just take over the women. So I do like the voyeurism

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while I am playing. If you are ticklish, I suggest

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you might want to tell me because I might, if

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you got some pretty toes, they might go in my

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mouth. Okay. I'm not ticklish on my feet. I have

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some other like areas that you wouldn't normally

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think are ticklish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not feet.

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Okay. And last but not least, and this is something

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that a lot of people, they want to try. but they

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necessarily haven't tried it before. But when

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they get with me, they can let it all hang out

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because I typically bring it out of them. And

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it is something that is, it really is. It's the

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taboo. It's that taboo type, like ancestral type

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play that is really like popular in the, in the

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porn world right now. You know, you got your

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hot wife and that's popular. You got your interracial

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that's popular, but the taboo incest thing that

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we, you know, step mom, step son. stepdad stepdaughter

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you know etc etc that's very very popular and

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i consider myself a a master of that when i get

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with someone when i get with a wife and uh you

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know she wants to explore that world with me

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i am a master of that so for all the hot wives

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listening out there and and unicorns definitely

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look me up for that all right definitely oh um

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Look out here. I don't have to look you up. I

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know right where you are. I got you an actual

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phone number, too. Exactly, exactly. Let me ask

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you this. So how would you say, as a bull, so

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we're in the bull brotherhood, right? Exactly.

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We are ones that are mastering our craft. If

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a young bull is, or even an older bull is looking

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to up his game and they want to listen to our

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podcast, what would you say you do, or what was

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your thought process in implementing or, what's

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the word I'm looking for, is how do you implement

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kink into your play style as a bull? In the communication

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process, when I'm getting to know a couple, you

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know, that first it might not be the first initial

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meet, but somewhere like maybe that second or

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third meet, if you have not been, you know, sexual

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yet, I will bring up my kinks. That is something

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that I always I always bring it up and I will

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be extremely honest with them. And especially

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when it comes to the taboo, a lot of people have

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watched, you know. on before and they have seen

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the world famous on you know productions of taboo

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taboo one two and three and uh they were actually

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turned on about it but here again because it

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is so you know that topic is so taboo they don't

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necessarily know of anyone who wants to practice

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it but you know when talk when i talk to them

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and uh it finally does you know get you know

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sexual i i bring it in you know while i am you

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know, having sex with them. And it just turns

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them on to a T because I am a talker when I have

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sex. And I've been told that I can tell, I can

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tell some of the greatest stories and talk the

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most shit while I am fucking. So, and it turns

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me on, it turns me on tremendously to get the

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reaction, you know, from the lady that I'm with.

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I tremendously, I mean, I can, I can go as long

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as she can take it. So that's how I introduced,

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you know, the kink world. uh, into my, you know,

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format and everything. I love it. I love it.

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Okay. So did, um, anybody else want to get into

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more details on kink before we move to the next

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subject? I think we covered, I think we covered

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a good part of it. Although there's a whole lot

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that we could keep discussing, but I think we

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covered, you know, pretty much, uh, a very good,

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you know, part of that. I agree. I agree. I'm

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good. I'm good. Yep. Um, siren, anything else

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you want to discuss about that? Okay. So got

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it. Got it. Got it. All right. So let's move

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on the big one. And I think we're going to start

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off with siren and me, because this is what we're

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in. We're going to talk about stag and Vixen.

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So siren. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.

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This, this covers you guys to a T. Exactly. I

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was, um, I was actually talking to a friend of

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mine who, um, We were talking about bisexual

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couples when the man is bisexual as well as the

00:15:21.750 --> 00:15:26.289
woman. I was like, next to Stag Vixen, like where

00:15:26.289 --> 00:15:28.669
the man is straight like me and the woman is

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bi, that's the funnest one. Those guys get so

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much fun because they get to do things that I'm

00:15:34.149 --> 00:15:36.149
not willing to do. I'm not interested in doing,

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right? But it don't mean it ain't fun because

00:15:38.350 --> 00:15:41.049
it is fun. I'm like, you know, there's all kind

00:15:41.049 --> 00:15:42.929
of options you can have when everybody's doing

00:15:42.929 --> 00:15:47.820
everything, but that's not us. Um, Shiren, talk

00:15:47.820 --> 00:15:51.519
to me about what your definition of stag vixen

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is and how do you feel like you land in on that

00:15:55.100 --> 00:15:59.879
definition? Well, I mean, and we're a biracial

00:15:59.879 --> 00:16:03.080
stag and vixen, which is even more unique. You

00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.159
know, we will play together. We'll play separately.

00:16:06.500 --> 00:16:11.740
Like we pretty much do it all. If we'll, you

00:16:11.740 --> 00:16:13.840
know, we'll do a threesome with another guy where

00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:17.179
I'm the focus or. You know, we'll do a threesome

00:16:17.179 --> 00:16:20.980
with another woman. We'll do group play. We don't

00:16:20.980 --> 00:16:24.360
do full swaps very often, just, you know, purely

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because of that four -way connection that everyone

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talks about is challenging to come by. We're

00:16:30.779 --> 00:16:33.100
open to it. But lately, I've just really been

00:16:33.100 --> 00:16:37.460
preferring to play solo with another man. Did

00:16:37.460 --> 00:16:41.139
try solo girl -on -girl, and then we ended up

00:16:41.139 --> 00:16:43.000
looking at each other afterwards, and we said...

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i said you want to go to my house and get some

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dick and she said yeah so the appeal for us for

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us both of us ladies we did try it on our own

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and you know we were successful we we made each

00:16:54.340 --> 00:16:57.139
other come and stuff like that but uh having

00:16:57.139 --> 00:17:00.080
the man in the room is really like what does

00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.759
it for us energy wise so you won't meet just

00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:07.380
say it you won't go meet we do because it's like

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i mean And we had all the toys. We had a strap

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-on. We had everything. But we were just like,

00:17:14.509 --> 00:17:18.430
eh. It's still not the same as that meat. Well,

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and we just have, like, a really good energy

00:17:20.450 --> 00:17:22.930
with this girl, too. Like, we've been playing

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with her for a while. And they've tried, you

00:17:27.170 --> 00:17:30.369
know, one -on -one, her and Socrates playing

00:17:30.369 --> 00:17:34.130
also. And that just wasn't really the jam either.

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So just the three of us together, that's just

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something fun. uh about that so i think with

00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:42.920
stag and vixen it's like you know we kind of

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just do a little bit of everything like you know

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everybody's coming to the table to eat dinner

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it's kind of how i think of it you know there's

00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:56.079
nobody that is not gonna play usually you know

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and even if i you know there's sometimes if we're

00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:02.859
have another woman or another man where socrates

00:18:02.859 --> 00:18:06.430
will sit and watch for a little bit But he always

00:18:06.430 --> 00:18:11.089
is participating in some level, you know. There's

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times where we've had, there we have a very lovely

00:18:15.789 --> 00:18:18.269
lady and she's actually coming over tomorrow

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night. I'm very excited. And at one point in

00:18:22.289 --> 00:18:26.210
the play there, I made him sit to the side and

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he kept trying to creep back up and I said, get

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over there. And I said our last name, you know,

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so I'll just make up the last name. I said, sit

00:18:33.869 --> 00:18:35.650
over there, Smith. You might learn something,

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you know. And then I just proceeded to play with

00:18:38.829 --> 00:18:41.029
her. And she basically just laid back and then

00:18:41.029 --> 00:18:42.950
I just did what I wanted to her. And it was pretty

00:18:42.950 --> 00:18:46.069
fun. And he did enjoy that. But he doesn't just

00:18:46.069 --> 00:18:48.849
sit and watch very often. And neither do I if

00:18:48.849 --> 00:18:50.670
I'm in the room. But I just like to know what

00:18:50.670 --> 00:18:54.009
the expectations are. Like, I'm perfectly happy

00:18:54.009 --> 00:18:58.299
sitting with a cuck and cuck sitting or. you

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know, whatever. I just like to know what's going

00:19:00.579 --> 00:19:02.539
on ahead of time. You know, what the kind of

00:19:02.539 --> 00:19:05.339
the expectation for, you know, that play experience

00:19:05.339 --> 00:19:08.319
is. Not every little thing, obviously, but am

00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:10.619
I playing or am I not playing? Am I sitting with

00:19:10.619 --> 00:19:14.220
the cuck? Am I joining in? And then that just

00:19:14.220 --> 00:19:18.660
helps me know my role in the scene. So, but a

00:19:18.660 --> 00:19:20.539
lot of times, you know, now that I've gotten

00:19:20.539 --> 00:19:23.559
some more opportunity with travel and other things,

00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:26.710
I just like to play. one -on -one with another

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man. Quick question for you two. What are each

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other's thoughts when you're watching the other

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one do their thing? And I'm going to start with

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Socrates. What are your thoughts when you watch

00:19:44.549 --> 00:19:49.150
her? When you're not participating yet or anything

00:19:49.150 --> 00:19:51.970
like that. When you watch her do her thing. Well,

00:19:52.089 --> 00:19:54.269
see, that's a tough, touching subject between

00:19:54.269 --> 00:19:58.069
us because. Okay. Okay. I don't, I don't, well,

00:19:58.170 --> 00:19:59.329
we're going to talk about it. That's what the

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podcast. Right. He doesn't sit. He doesn't, I

00:20:01.750 --> 00:20:03.890
would love for him to sit and watch, but he doesn't

00:20:03.890 --> 00:20:05.589
for more than five minutes. And then he just

00:20:05.589 --> 00:20:08.430
goes and does what, what he wants to do. Okay.

00:20:09.329 --> 00:20:11.589
Okay. Well, that's what I'm talking about. You

00:20:11.589 --> 00:20:14.450
know what I mean? Do you sit there and watch

00:20:14.450 --> 00:20:17.930
everything or do you, you know? He won't do it.

00:20:17.950 --> 00:20:21.769
I want him to. It's on my wish list. But he gets

00:20:21.769 --> 00:20:24.529
bored. That's her version. Let me tell you mine.

00:20:24.690 --> 00:20:28.069
ADHD. Let me tell you mine. Go ahead. Well, the

00:20:28.069 --> 00:20:30.410
last thing she said, I get bored. That's true.

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So here's the thing. Here's the thing. I've seen

00:20:35.650 --> 00:20:38.789
some brothers that know what they're doing. I've

00:20:38.789 --> 00:20:41.549
seen some brothers that know what they're doing

00:20:41.549 --> 00:20:47.549
in a way that pleases her. When I'm watching

00:20:47.549 --> 00:20:52.869
it, I'm like, okay, so, man. And so there's been

00:20:52.869 --> 00:20:56.009
some guys we can name, some brothers from the

00:20:56.009 --> 00:20:59.170
Pacific Northwest somewhere, and some brothers

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that I know from down south in L .A. that I know

00:21:03.170 --> 00:21:05.450
they know what they're doing. They're entertaining.

00:21:06.109 --> 00:21:10.809
They know Siren's body well. And I love watching

00:21:10.809 --> 00:21:13.950
those cats. So there was a guy, there was a situation

00:21:13.950 --> 00:21:18.410
where. up in Canada, where I was watching for

00:21:18.410 --> 00:21:20.210
a minute, and I participate in everything because

00:21:20.210 --> 00:21:23.230
that brother knows what he's doing. Okay. Now,

00:21:23.390 --> 00:21:29.069
here's the thing. I don't know how to say this

00:21:29.069 --> 00:21:31.990
without bragging, but a lot of guys can't handle

00:21:31.990 --> 00:21:34.029
me in the room. They can't handle me in the room,

00:21:34.089 --> 00:21:38.130
man. So, you know, we're part of the BBC community,

00:21:38.490 --> 00:21:42.730
right? And so I don't know what to do. Hold on,

00:21:42.769 --> 00:21:44.859
let me cut you. Let me let me let me intervene.

00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.259
When you say they can't handle you in the room,

00:21:47.299 --> 00:21:49.759
do you mean they can't handle you like just being

00:21:49.759 --> 00:21:52.440
in the room or they can when you jump in? No,

00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:55.859
I mean, OK, you just being in the room. So your

00:21:55.859 --> 00:21:58.920
aura, your aura is given off so much that they

00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:01.519
can't take. You know what I mean? That's been

00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:03.980
in our own home, though. I'm going to make a

00:22:03.980 --> 00:22:06.059
bunch of assumptions. Or somewhere else. But

00:22:06.059 --> 00:22:08.279
in our own home, yes, they're nervous, especially

00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:11.599
if it's their first time with me. But if you

00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.240
actually tried it, though, I challenge you at

00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:17.960
the next big event that we go to to find the

00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:20.099
time and just watch with someone who knows what

00:22:20.099 --> 00:22:22.710
they're doing. Well, yeah, invite me with somebody

00:22:22.710 --> 00:22:24.769
who knows what they're doing. But I don't play

00:22:24.769 --> 00:22:27.650
with anybody who doesn't know what they're doing.

00:22:27.730 --> 00:22:30.769
It's always in our own home because locally.

00:22:31.069 --> 00:22:33.569
Yeah. So what you're talking about is Splash

00:22:33.569 --> 00:22:35.890
Mocha. And you're right. I got other things.

00:22:35.970 --> 00:22:40.410
I'm trying to get mine in, too. Sure, sure. It's

00:22:40.410 --> 00:22:44.269
a whole other mindset. What sound does the eye

00:22:44.269 --> 00:22:47.130
roll emoji make right now? Because that's what

00:22:47.130 --> 00:22:50.130
I'm doing. He suffers. Don't we know, Mr. Morgan?

00:22:50.250 --> 00:22:52.849
He suffers. No, it's not that. How many play

00:22:52.849 --> 00:22:54.609
dates do you have this week? Oh, Lord. Here we

00:22:54.609 --> 00:22:58.369
go. How do you have? How many? Ladies and gentlemen.

00:22:58.630 --> 00:23:01.789
Four? Three days. Ladies and gentlemen of the

00:23:01.789 --> 00:23:06.640
audience, I am spoiled. More than milk left in

00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:09.279
a refrigerator that's been unplugged for a week.

00:23:09.339 --> 00:23:14.700
Okay, so we're not going there, okay? I'm spoiled

00:23:14.700 --> 00:23:18.259
denim. I'm spoiled denim motherfucker, okay?

00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:22.460
But my whole thing is I understand she wants

00:23:22.460 --> 00:23:25.000
me to watch. I understand she wants her husband,

00:23:25.140 --> 00:23:27.660
her man, the guy that takes care of her and provides

00:23:27.660 --> 00:23:30.630
for her and loves the shit out of her. to sit

00:23:30.630 --> 00:23:33.109
back and enjoy her being pleased. That's true.

00:23:33.190 --> 00:23:35.809
Should I? Yes. I'm not saying I'm right, but

00:23:35.809 --> 00:23:38.950
I am saying I do get bored. I'm not interested

00:23:38.950 --> 00:23:42.450
in half these cats because not because I'm better

00:23:42.450 --> 00:23:44.890
than them or anything, but here's the thing.

00:23:46.150 --> 00:23:51.829
I am more intrigued with the way Mr. Morgan invited

00:23:51.829 --> 00:23:55.089
the last lady that I saw him bite in Atlanta,

00:23:55.250 --> 00:23:59.549
the way he supported that woman. The way he got

00:23:59.549 --> 00:24:02.809
her from not wanting to get out of the car to

00:24:02.809 --> 00:24:05.589
being comfortable and playing with another brother

00:24:05.589 --> 00:24:09.009
that we know. We're talking about the stag and

00:24:09.009 --> 00:24:11.329
vixen dynamic. We're not talking about that.

00:24:11.430 --> 00:24:14.690
No, but my point is you wanted to bring up watching.

00:24:14.829 --> 00:24:19.289
So as a stag, I enjoy you playing. That's the

00:24:19.289 --> 00:24:22.549
definition of a stag. I enjoy and love you playing.

00:24:22.690 --> 00:24:26.160
And I ask you to send videos all the time. But

00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:28.880
what I'm not interested in doing is when we leave

00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:33.339
town, yes, I'm spoiled at town. I'm spoiled in

00:24:33.339 --> 00:24:37.559
town. But when we leave town, I'm on the clock

00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:40.759
too. Plus, this next one, you know, we're going

00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:43.720
to be doing podcasts and business stuff. So I'm

00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.619
like, okay, yeah. Pick out three or four cats

00:24:46.619 --> 00:24:49.460
that you know know what they're doing and invite

00:24:49.460 --> 00:24:51.420
them. And I'll sit down there the whole time.

00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:54.119
But she's right. I need to work on that. I need

00:24:54.119 --> 00:24:55.980
to get better at it. I'm not saying I don't need

00:24:55.980 --> 00:24:59.099
to, but. I'm asking for like 10 minutes. Yeah.

00:24:59.119 --> 00:25:01.819
And I'll give you even more than that. Cause

00:25:01.819 --> 00:25:04.900
like my man up in Canada, I was there the whole

00:25:04.900 --> 00:25:08.019
time, you know? So it's like, I'm just like,

00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.259
I look up to these cats that I call my mentors

00:25:11.259 --> 00:25:15.960
and I've seen them play. I've seen them interact

00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.859
with ladies and I'm more intrigued than that.

00:25:19.450 --> 00:25:21.670
than what a lot of these cats are doing. I know

00:25:21.670 --> 00:25:23.470
they're pleasing you and they're dope and they're

00:25:23.470 --> 00:25:25.470
awesome. I'm not saying anything about these

00:25:25.470 --> 00:25:28.470
cats at all. What I'm saying is I'm just not

00:25:28.470 --> 00:25:31.809
intrigued by your interaction with them. But

00:25:31.809 --> 00:25:35.690
some guys, like the guy in Canada, I'm like,

00:25:35.750 --> 00:25:39.349
that guy is dope. That guy is dope. That guy

00:25:39.349 --> 00:25:43.529
is, his process intrigues me. That doesn't mean

00:25:43.529 --> 00:25:46.569
that they're not intriguing. That means I'm not

00:25:46.569 --> 00:25:51.750
intrigued by them. So I like watching you because

00:25:51.750 --> 00:25:55.309
you intrigue me. I like watching what you do

00:25:55.309 --> 00:26:01.230
because you. Man, I don't know the way you interact

00:26:01.230 --> 00:26:06.369
with people. I don't see a lot. And so I'm I'm

00:26:06.369 --> 00:26:08.549
more like, OK, what I'm looking for is what I'm

00:26:08.549 --> 00:26:10.049
looking for. But, you know, on this next one,

00:26:10.109 --> 00:26:12.529
we're going to definitely spend some time and

00:26:12.529 --> 00:26:13.869
you're going to get more than 10 minutes for

00:26:13.869 --> 00:26:18.329
me. But back to what we were saying. For me,

00:26:18.329 --> 00:26:21.369
as a stag, I like watching the video more than

00:26:21.369 --> 00:26:25.069
watching them in person. Because I can be at

00:26:25.069 --> 00:26:28.009
a certain mindset. I can kind of look. And when

00:26:28.009 --> 00:26:30.190
I'm watching the video, I'm watching her and

00:26:30.190 --> 00:26:34.890
not him. Right? And that's the beauty of the

00:26:34.890 --> 00:26:37.529
different types of stags. You know what I mean?

00:26:37.630 --> 00:26:40.549
Right. From the ones who will sit in there and

00:26:40.549 --> 00:26:42.930
actually watch to the ones who might be in another

00:26:42.930 --> 00:26:45.710
room and just want to, you know, say, hey, you

00:26:45.710 --> 00:26:48.140
know, call me so I can listen. You know what

00:26:48.140 --> 00:26:50.099
I mean? There's different types, different types.

00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:51.940
That's the beauty of that. That's the beauty.

00:26:51.980 --> 00:26:54.319
And a lot of people just think stag means, hey,

00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:57.019
I just have to be in there watching. No, no,

00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:59.140
no, no, no. You don't. You know what I mean?

00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.180
You do not. I know some guys who like to like

00:27:02.180 --> 00:27:06.339
wait downstairs and say, oh, OK, I'm going to

00:27:06.339 --> 00:27:08.759
be there for about 15, 20 minutes. Then I'm going

00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:10.740
to come up and down, come in the room because

00:27:10.740 --> 00:27:12.980
I want to you know me. I want to walk in and

00:27:12.980 --> 00:27:17.309
see that. going on, you know, as if to say you

00:27:17.309 --> 00:27:18.950
might be cheating on me. You know what I mean?

00:27:19.009 --> 00:27:22.390
And here again, that's a kink. There's different

00:27:22.390 --> 00:27:24.890
varieties of being a stag. Different varieties

00:27:24.890 --> 00:27:26.690
of being a stag, just like there are different

00:27:26.690 --> 00:27:29.390
varieties for the ladies being, you know, a vixen.

00:27:29.589 --> 00:27:31.930
So that's the beauty of this. I mean, that's

00:27:31.930 --> 00:27:34.430
the beauty of the whole thing. The whole thing.

00:27:34.569 --> 00:27:38.390
So that's wonderful. That's wonderful. Siren,

00:27:38.490 --> 00:27:44.289
do you like to watch him, or do you rather not?

00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:53.700
What? I don't often just watch. But if I see

00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:55.640
him, like, you know, if we're at a big event

00:27:55.640 --> 00:27:58.480
or something and I see him, sometimes I'll just

00:27:58.480 --> 00:28:00.819
stand in the doorway because I like to watch

00:28:00.819 --> 00:28:08.380
his booty go. I'm such a butt girl when it comes

00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:11.519
to guys like in Splash Mocha at the big playroom

00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.000
like I really just want to go down the line in

00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:17.000
the big playroom and just smack all the I just

00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:20.440
I want to I would never do that right but in

00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:23.420
my mind I do I just would go down and smack all

00:28:23.420 --> 00:28:25.220
those booties that are just pumping you know

00:28:25.220 --> 00:28:31.759
so I like to watch that and then um I'm a little

00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:35.299
snobby, but when I like to watch is when I'm

00:28:35.299 --> 00:28:41.500
attracted to the woman too. So it doesn't really

00:28:41.500 --> 00:28:44.880
have to do with the performance aspect, but more

00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:48.099
so when I'm attracted to her too, it's more fun

00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:51.940
for me. But when we play with a unicorn, we always

00:28:51.940 --> 00:28:54.680
have kind of like a grand finale where I sit.

00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:58.319
In the affectionately we call a cuck chair, even

00:28:58.319 --> 00:28:59.940
though I don't think we've ever had a cuck in

00:28:59.940 --> 00:29:04.359
it. No, we haven't. But I always sit in that

00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.599
chair at the end. And then, you know, we just

00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:10.059
I don't want to spoil it for anybody who's not

00:29:10.059 --> 00:29:11.720
played with us. But we have a little routine

00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:15.059
that we do where he's looking at me. I'm looking

00:29:15.059 --> 00:29:18.680
at him and he's hucking the shit out of the unicorn.

00:29:19.140 --> 00:29:22.440
And that's really good. But it's actually you.

00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.740
Yeah. he's doing his thing to her but it's like

00:29:26.740 --> 00:29:28.980
if you're looking at each other i'm bossing him

00:29:28.980 --> 00:29:31.500
i'm kind of being bossy in that moment too because

00:29:31.500 --> 00:29:34.420
i'm telling him like her harder and you know

00:29:34.420 --> 00:29:37.000
and then he's telling her stuff too so we're

00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.720
kind of like dominating her together even though

00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:42.819
i'm not touching her so i'm like you got some

00:29:42.819 --> 00:29:46.380
there you got some you got some dominatrix issues

00:29:46.380 --> 00:29:50.200
in you don't you i have to be a boss in real

00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:53.339
life though so Most of the time I would just

00:29:53.339 --> 00:29:56.700
rather lay back. My new guy that I've been playing

00:29:56.700 --> 00:29:59.240
with, he makes me work too, so I'm like a little

00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:04.460
more tired. Okay, okay. I will fuck back, but

00:30:04.460 --> 00:30:07.000
I don't, sometimes I just want to be a pillow

00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:12.779
princess. You know, I'm down for it all. I'm

00:30:12.779 --> 00:30:15.079
definitely not lazy when it comes to all that.

00:30:15.220 --> 00:30:18.720
Okay. Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like she's

00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.019
the same as I am. There's certain things that

00:30:21.019 --> 00:30:25.920
she likes to watch. She has a routine. And I

00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:29.640
would love for her to have some guys that can

00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:34.839
come in privately because we host because where

00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:37.599
we live, a lot of people can't. And I would love

00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:39.559
to have some guys that are okay with me in the

00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:41.519
room because, man, one of the things that I love

00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.559
is having a threesome with my wife. Well, they're

00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.799
going to be here for your birthday. Oh, yeah,

00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:47.819
that's good. For the whole weekend. We're having,

00:30:47.900 --> 00:30:49.680
like, three or four guys that are flying in.

00:30:49.819 --> 00:30:52.880
The birthday is going to be pop in. The birthday

00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:55.180
is going to be. I might be in the bed with you

00:30:55.180 --> 00:30:58.740
for, like, an hour nap. Yeah. And then one of

00:30:58.740 --> 00:31:00.559
them is staying with us, so. Yeah, the birthday

00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.039
is going to be on the check. I don't know if

00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:05.700
it's for him or for me. But he wants all these

00:31:05.700 --> 00:31:08.059
ladies. And I was like, yeah, we'll do this reverse

00:31:08.059 --> 00:31:10.400
gangbang for your birthday and, like, this other

00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:13.839
stuff that you want. But I say. And when is the

00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:19.140
birthday? March 8th. So this might not even be

00:31:19.140 --> 00:31:25.240
out by then. I don't know. Yeah, so I've gotten

00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:28.859
some guys that I have played with to fly in.

00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.259
And so that way, you know, when these seven or

00:31:33.259 --> 00:31:36.720
eight ladies that we have, you know, we need

00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:41.339
some additional support team. So, and I'm not

00:31:41.339 --> 00:31:43.180
even going to be worried about myself too much

00:31:43.180 --> 00:31:44.900
that night. I'm just going to be like hosting

00:31:44.900 --> 00:31:48.619
and facilitating because a lot of them are going

00:31:48.619 --> 00:31:51.779
to be here like Friday to Monday. One of them,

00:31:51.779 --> 00:31:53.759
I think even a little bit longer, he's like making

00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:55.720
a work trip out of it because he works remote

00:31:55.720 --> 00:31:59.119
or something. So I'm going to be like, oh, hey,

00:31:59.380 --> 00:32:04.660
I'm going to their hotel again. I put them at

00:32:04.660 --> 00:32:08.200
all the hotels close to the house, right? Yeah,

00:32:08.220 --> 00:32:09.920
it's my birthday, but I think she's getting all

00:32:09.920 --> 00:32:14.980
the presents. Your present. Happy wife, happy

00:32:14.980 --> 00:32:20.619
life. Yeah, that's true. Pleasured pussy. I can't

00:32:20.619 --> 00:32:22.680
think of a rhyme to go with that. Anyways, no,

00:32:22.819 --> 00:32:24.599
you're going to have fun. Like, he's going to

00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:27.980
have all these ladies on him, and yeah. So, you

00:32:27.980 --> 00:32:31.099
know, I don't know if you want to talk a little

00:32:31.099 --> 00:32:33.099
bit more about that, the stag and vixen thing.

00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:35.480
That's just where we're at. Um, did you want

00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:37.339
to talk about more before we get into the big

00:32:37.339 --> 00:32:40.160
one, the big side? I mean, we're always, we're

00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:45.400
always growing up. Stag and Vixen was strictly

00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.920
for you guys to talk about. Okay. Strictly for

00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:50.559
you guys to talk about. Um, like I said, I do

00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:54.000
enjoy, I do enjoy it from time to time, you know,

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.759
uh, certain ladies and stuff watching them. But

00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:59.480
other than that, I am, when I'm performing, I

00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.539
am in bull mode. I'm in bull mode the whole time.

00:33:02.660 --> 00:33:06.619
So. Stag and Vixen is definitely for you. I think

00:33:06.619 --> 00:33:08.740
we've covered that. Let's go ahead and hit the

00:33:08.740 --> 00:33:11.960
grand finale. The grand finale is the cuckold

00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:17.140
thing. I feel like we need to spend most of the

00:33:17.140 --> 00:33:21.220
rest of our time on this because it's so misunderstood.

00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:28.099
I don't think I know five people that have the

00:33:28.099 --> 00:33:32.529
same definition of it. What would your definition

00:33:32.529 --> 00:33:34.589
of a cuck be? And, you know, I'm going to ask

00:33:34.589 --> 00:33:36.349
Chad DBT, but, you know, we'll go through all

00:33:36.349 --> 00:33:40.470
of us. Well, I mean, if you just want the simple

00:33:40.470 --> 00:33:43.930
definition of cuckold, I mean, it's a man who,

00:33:43.990 --> 00:33:47.490
like, finds, you know, arousement in watching

00:33:47.490 --> 00:33:50.390
his wife or his girlfriend have sex with another

00:33:50.390 --> 00:33:57.210
man. When you hear the word cuckold, I think

00:33:57.210 --> 00:34:00.440
most people automatically think weak. you know,

00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:05.980
like weak guy. No, uh -uh. Most men who love

00:34:05.980 --> 00:34:12.159
the cuckold kink, most of those guys are like

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:15.699
successful, well -off, intelligent, you know,

00:34:15.699 --> 00:34:22.119
men who just like to be at one point totally

00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:26.739
submissive. Totally submissive. And there's nothing,

00:34:26.820 --> 00:34:29.559
you know, there's nothing weak about that. You

00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:33.739
know, if anything, I find a man who can be completely

00:34:33.739 --> 00:34:37.599
comfortable sharing his wife with other men.

00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.579
Hey, my hat's off to that guy. You know, I mean,

00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.440
I think that guy's got he knows that she's coming

00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.300
back to him. You know, they've had that talk.

00:34:46.420 --> 00:34:49.519
They've had talk, that talk that maybe you can

00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:51.260
go and do whatever the hell you want to do when

00:34:51.260 --> 00:34:53.420
you're out there. You know, I can watch or not

00:34:53.420 --> 00:34:56.519
be there. I can be downstairs doing this or in

00:34:56.519 --> 00:34:58.460
the room working while you're going to other

00:34:58.460 --> 00:35:01.460
rooms. but I know that you're coming back to

00:35:01.460 --> 00:35:06.559
me. Hey, that guy's got my, I mean, he's the

00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:12.139
man to me. So the cuckold thing is just a word

00:35:12.139 --> 00:35:14.420
to me. It doesn't mean that you're weak or anything

00:35:14.420 --> 00:35:17.539
like that, but it's actually, I mean, for me,

00:35:17.579 --> 00:35:21.159
it's a positive. I feel like it's the most powerful

00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.780
position in some ways because he's willingly

00:35:23.780 --> 00:35:28.239
most of the time. You know, giving up that power

00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.780
to his wife for her pleasure. Most of the couples

00:35:31.780 --> 00:35:34.579
that we've talked to, you know, it's something

00:35:34.579 --> 00:35:38.619
that he gives up and he gets off on giving her

00:35:38.619 --> 00:35:42.099
that. Especially the one that we've spent whole

00:35:42.099 --> 00:35:47.059
weekends, you know, with several. So, yeah. And

00:35:47.059 --> 00:35:51.780
the majority of the cuckold men are usually the

00:35:51.780 --> 00:35:55.559
submissive cuckold. You know, even though you

00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:57.760
got other different types. You know, you got

00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:03.059
a submissive cuckold. You have your bi, you know,

00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:07.000
your bi cuckold. You got your cuckolds who just

00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:11.019
love the, you know, humiliation, i .e. like maybe

00:36:11.019 --> 00:36:13.639
being in chastity, you know, cut cage and stuff

00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:16.599
like that. So you have several types, but most

00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:18.880
that I have encountered are just your typical,

00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.679
you know, submissive, submissive cuckold who

00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.460
sits there in the corner. Listen to what I'm

00:36:25.460 --> 00:36:27.639
telling him. Hey, come over to the bed and watch

00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.179
me, you know, for your wife and maybe some humiliation

00:36:30.179 --> 00:36:33.960
here and there. So, but I love it though. And

00:36:33.960 --> 00:36:37.099
it's not always, sometimes it's just the submission

00:36:37.099 --> 00:36:40.480
in the play scene. And then in, you know, in

00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:45.900
outside of that, he is more the leader of the

00:36:45.900 --> 00:36:49.159
family and the household. And then other times

00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:51.340
it's female led relationship all the way through.

00:36:51.809 --> 00:36:53.949
So there's definitely different, because I know

00:36:53.949 --> 00:36:57.869
a couple, you know, in the lifestyle, you know,

00:36:57.869 --> 00:37:00.570
she's in charge, he's a cuck, the whole thing.

00:37:00.570 --> 00:37:03.550
But then outside of that, he runs the household,

00:37:03.730 --> 00:37:06.190
he runs everything else. So it's like a break,

00:37:06.250 --> 00:37:09.510
just like when I, you know, am not having to

00:37:09.510 --> 00:37:11.909
be dominant, like I have to be in the workplace

00:37:11.909 --> 00:37:15.650
all the time. Sure. You know, it's a break. You

00:37:15.650 --> 00:37:17.130
know, I've heard a lot of them, you know, it's

00:37:17.130 --> 00:37:20.800
relaxing for them to be submissive. And just

00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:25.460
get to enjoy. So, and, you know, just the different

00:37:25.460 --> 00:37:27.079
levels and all the different things, you know,

00:37:27.099 --> 00:37:31.139
sometimes with just the bull in the room or where

00:37:31.139 --> 00:37:33.559
we've added in, where we've offered the cuck

00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:35.860
sitting, you know, there's just like a lot of

00:37:35.860 --> 00:37:38.500
variety of things that can go on. I think it's

00:37:38.500 --> 00:37:41.699
a really cool dynamic. It intrigues me a lot.

00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.119
I had, you know, just a lot of, I don't want

00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.159
to say wrong ideas, just like misconceptions.

00:37:47.900 --> 00:37:51.599
Yeah, thank you. misconceptions about it. And

00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.699
I was like, well, if I go in, I'm cuck sitting.

00:37:53.820 --> 00:37:56.980
Like, I don't want to be mean to him, you know,

00:37:56.980 --> 00:38:01.300
but the cuck that I was sitting, he kept disobeying.

00:38:01.619 --> 00:38:05.079
So he got punished and that felt okay to me.

00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:08.099
Okay. Okay. I'm not being mean to him, but then

00:38:08.099 --> 00:38:10.559
it grew a little bit by the end of it, you know,

00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:13.300
because the wife started making fun of his penis

00:38:13.300 --> 00:38:16.659
size. Then I was like, oh, okay. Okay. She's

00:38:16.659 --> 00:38:20.239
doing it. She is doing it so I can do it, too,

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.679
you know. And then, you know, by the end of it,

00:38:22.739 --> 00:38:26.480
I was just, like, fully into humiliating him,

00:38:26.539 --> 00:38:28.480
you know, whatever. Whatever else that she allowed

00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.880
me. She sent me a list of, like, kind of do's

00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.519
and don'ts ahead of time. And that made me feel...

00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:40.360
They let their level of, like, intimacy grow

00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.099
as the encounter went. You know what I'm saying?

00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.960
So, I mean, that, like, gives a couple, like,

00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.429
a chance to... you know, embrace like embrace

00:38:49.429 --> 00:38:51.909
their desires. You know what I'm saying? And

00:38:51.909 --> 00:38:54.610
when they do that stuff, it makes a stronger

00:38:54.610 --> 00:38:57.769
bond between, you know, the cook and the wife.

00:38:58.329 --> 00:39:01.690
So it sounds like you had a great time. You experienced

00:39:01.690 --> 00:39:04.530
all of that. And taking your cage off is really

00:39:04.530 --> 00:39:08.030
complicated. I kind of had something in my mind.

00:39:08.050 --> 00:39:09.570
I thought she gave me the key, right? She's like,

00:39:09.630 --> 00:39:11.489
well, if you want, he can take it off, you know.

00:39:11.789 --> 00:39:14.849
And then when I went to do it, it was like really

00:39:14.849 --> 00:39:18.309
complicated. And then she had to help me. It's

00:39:18.309 --> 00:39:19.909
like the whole thing. It didn't look so sexy

00:39:19.909 --> 00:39:23.010
on the video because, you know, it was like putting

00:39:23.010 --> 00:39:25.909
together Legos or something. I don't know. Well,

00:39:25.989 --> 00:39:28.070
we're definitely going to get into that story.

00:39:28.230 --> 00:39:31.050
I'm excited about telling that story. Mr. Morgan,

00:39:31.150 --> 00:39:32.730
let me ask you a few questions because we talk

00:39:32.730 --> 00:39:37.130
about, at some point I'll read what I have from

00:39:37.130 --> 00:39:40.010
chat and my opinion about it. But I want to ask

00:39:40.010 --> 00:39:43.190
you, Mr. Morgan, we talk about our mission statement,

00:39:43.250 --> 00:39:47.389
which one of the things is to obtain. sexual

00:39:47.389 --> 00:39:50.670
mastery over another man's wife. And I think

00:39:50.670 --> 00:39:55.170
that really pertains to the bull, cuckold, cuckoldrist

00:39:55.170 --> 00:40:00.510
dynamic. So what do you mean by taking sexual

00:40:00.510 --> 00:40:03.429
mastery over another man's wife, especially in

00:40:03.429 --> 00:40:06.690
the cuckold dynamic? Well, it means several different

00:40:06.690 --> 00:40:10.050
things. Because I'm looking at myself as like,

00:40:10.210 --> 00:40:13.989
I'm looking at myself when I come in, A, I'm

00:40:13.989 --> 00:40:16.980
being dominant. I'm taking over. I'm actually

00:40:16.980 --> 00:40:20.699
taking over everything. I'm not just taking over

00:40:20.699 --> 00:40:24.280
the wife, but I'm actually taking over him also.

00:40:24.900 --> 00:40:32.340
He has no say so. As I told you before, I'm going

00:40:32.340 --> 00:40:36.559
to do three things when I have her. The first

00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.239
three things, I want to claim her, train her,

00:40:39.380 --> 00:40:42.599
and then own her. But when I'm doing this, I'm

00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.619
also doing what? I'm respecting, protecting,

00:40:45.230 --> 00:40:47.869
And loving her. So, you know, when I'm doing

00:40:47.869 --> 00:40:52.090
all of those things, she is going to see a side

00:40:52.090 --> 00:40:54.469
of me. She's going to see the dominant, the dominant

00:40:54.469 --> 00:40:56.789
sexual side. But not only the dominant sexual

00:40:56.789 --> 00:40:59.730
side, she's going to see kind of an emotional

00:40:59.730 --> 00:41:02.050
side also. Because I told you, I want to get

00:41:02.050 --> 00:41:06.170
in between your ears. I want you to be at work

00:41:06.170 --> 00:41:08.510
and not be able to sit behind your computer or

00:41:08.510 --> 00:41:10.269
whatever the hell you're doing without thinking

00:41:10.269 --> 00:41:13.289
about Brian Morgan. And as far as he's concerned.

00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:18.159
I want him at first to be able to sit there and

00:41:18.159 --> 00:41:21.699
just take direction, take direction, take heed

00:41:21.699 --> 00:41:24.440
to everything I'm saying. But as we develop our

00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:27.719
rapport and develop our friendship and understanding,

00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.039
he'll be able to be like, OK, I am totally comfortable

00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.400
with this man coming in and taking my wife and

00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.619
taking her places or she's spending the weekend

00:41:36.619 --> 00:41:39.480
with him. Or like I just did over the weekend,

00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:43.199
you know, build a brand new couple. And I told

00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.179
him, go downstairs and sit at the bar while,

00:41:45.340 --> 00:41:47.800
you know, we're upstairs. I mean, we developed

00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:52.639
that rapport just that quick. So, you know, for

00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:55.320
me, that's that's what sexual mastery is. It's

00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:58.900
not just the sex itself. OK, like I told you

00:41:58.900 --> 00:42:01.460
guys before, sex is always going to come. All

00:42:01.460 --> 00:42:04.039
right. It's going to come. You best believe it's

00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.920
going to be good. But that's not everything involved

00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:11.429
in being a great bull. And, you know. Sexual

00:42:11.429 --> 00:42:14.969
matchmaking. You got to get you have to get inside

00:42:14.969 --> 00:42:18.070
of the head, both of the heads. They have to

00:42:18.070 --> 00:42:19.710
be completely comfortable with you. They have

00:42:19.710 --> 00:42:22.309
to trust you. They have to respect you. And when

00:42:22.309 --> 00:42:25.369
that comes along, then you're able to take the

00:42:25.369 --> 00:42:28.269
couple itself. The couple pretty much is like,

00:42:28.429 --> 00:42:32.409
OK, this guy is our bull. He's our number one

00:42:32.409 --> 00:42:34.550
bull. They may play with others, but there's

00:42:34.550 --> 00:42:37.550
no one like Brian. OK, they may they may be at

00:42:37.550 --> 00:42:40.909
an event. Like my one couple was down in Florida

00:42:40.909 --> 00:42:44.130
over the summer. And I guess somebody tried to

00:42:44.130 --> 00:42:46.409
talk to him, but they were like, you know, our

00:42:46.409 --> 00:42:50.289
bull isn't here. So we can't ask him, is it okay?

00:42:50.710 --> 00:42:52.530
I mean, that made me feel good when they came

00:42:52.530 --> 00:42:55.210
back to tell me that. So that's what sexual mastery

00:42:55.210 --> 00:42:58.630
means to me, in my words. I love it. I love it.

00:42:59.010 --> 00:43:02.289
So let me tell y 'all, well, you know me. I'm

00:43:02.289 --> 00:43:05.789
going to look at a dictionary definition because

00:43:05.789 --> 00:43:10.559
it helps give me. kind of like a North Star.

00:43:10.820 --> 00:43:14.719
It doesn't mean that we are stuck to these labels.

00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:19.340
Labels for us are guidelines to help us understand.

00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:25.760
They're not like boxes for us to fit in. So ChadGBT

00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.780
says, a cuckold traditionally refers to a man

00:43:30.780 --> 00:43:32.639
whose partner, usually a wife or girlfriend,

00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.119
engages in sexual activity with another man.

00:43:35.860 --> 00:43:38.739
often with his knowledge. The term has evolved

00:43:38.739 --> 00:43:41.519
over time and now has different meanings, depending

00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.079
on the context. So I totally agree with that.

00:43:45.099 --> 00:43:48.099
Historically, what it's saying is literal meaning

00:43:48.099 --> 00:43:51.539
in older literation and history, a cuckold was

00:43:51.539 --> 00:43:54.260
simply a man whose wife was unfaithful, often

00:43:54.260 --> 00:43:57.599
without his consent or knowledge. It carried

00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:01.179
a stigma of humiliation. And where it really

00:44:01.179 --> 00:44:04.869
comes from is that the, I think it was the cuckoo

00:44:04.869 --> 00:44:09.769
bird lays eggs in somebody else's nest, and there's

00:44:09.769 --> 00:44:13.309
actually a certain kind of bird that will just

00:44:13.309 --> 00:44:17.349
raise it no matter what. And so it really came

00:44:17.349 --> 00:44:22.090
about, and there's political aspects as well,

00:44:22.110 --> 00:44:25.070
but we won't get into that. So modern kink BDSM

00:44:25.070 --> 00:44:28.409
context is consensual non -monogamy in kink communities.

00:44:28.510 --> 00:44:31.070
A cuckold is typically a man who derives some

00:44:31.070 --> 00:44:33.369
form of psychological or sexual gratification.

00:44:34.059 --> 00:44:36.639
From his partner being with another man with

00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.619
other men. This can involve elements such as

00:44:39.619 --> 00:44:42.760
humiliation or degradation for those into power

00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.280
dynamics. And I like that part because not every

00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:48.480
single cuck wants to be humiliated. Right. So

00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:52.320
like the couple that we played with who, you

00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.320
know, my wife cuck sat for it. She did not want

00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:59.980
me to humiliate him at all. And the only thing

00:44:59.980 --> 00:45:05.059
she does is tease him very. I would say in a

00:45:05.059 --> 00:45:07.219
very respectful way about his penis size, and

00:45:07.219 --> 00:45:09.920
he loves that. They have different levels of

00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:15.960
humiliation. It's not just what I call the complete

00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.219
degradation. I'm trying to say degrading somebody.

00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:26.519
It's not that hard, harsh, to where there's a

00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.019
possibility that his feelings really could be

00:45:29.019 --> 00:45:31.949
hurt. You know, he doesn't know if we're actually

00:45:31.949 --> 00:45:35.230
role -playing here or if she's really, you know,

00:45:35.250 --> 00:45:38.670
meaning what she says. But there are different

00:45:38.670 --> 00:45:42.090
levels of it. And I've had the pleasure of, like,

00:45:42.150 --> 00:45:45.329
being the one to say, you know, harsh things.

00:45:45.630 --> 00:45:50.190
And it actually wasn't the biggest turn -on for

00:45:50.190 --> 00:45:53.030
me to say things that harsh, you know, to the

00:45:53.030 --> 00:45:55.730
person. But the light degradation, the light

00:45:55.730 --> 00:45:58.800
humiliation and stuff like that. I can do that

00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.420
to a T all day, especially if somebody's new

00:46:01.420 --> 00:46:04.300
caged or whatever. And, you know, like I said,

00:46:04.300 --> 00:46:07.840
instead of him sitting in his cook chair, I actually

00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:11.460
bring him to the bed. I'll have him lay in the

00:46:11.460 --> 00:46:13.940
bed right there beside us. You know what I mean?

00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.119
So he can actually see, I mean, he can really

00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:19.940
see what is going on. You know, so that's...

00:46:20.969 --> 00:46:26.250
Those are the several forms of humiliation that

00:46:26.250 --> 00:46:29.429
cuckoos feel like. Right. Now, continuing on

00:46:29.429 --> 00:46:32.809
the definition, voyeurism, which is watching

00:46:32.809 --> 00:46:34.949
or hearing about their partners' encounters.

00:46:36.130 --> 00:46:39.130
Denial of chastity is a big thing. So some cuckoos

00:46:39.130 --> 00:46:41.110
referring from sex themselves as a part of the

00:46:41.110 --> 00:46:44.010
dynamic. Now, that's one of the things that intrigues

00:46:44.010 --> 00:46:47.539
me the most because... I practice seed retention.

00:46:47.739 --> 00:46:52.639
And if you get into some of the tantric stuff

00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.239
and some of the spiritual or psychological aspects

00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:00.800
of seed retention, it's really powerful. And

00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:03.719
you talk to some of these cucks about the energy

00:47:03.719 --> 00:47:06.599
they have, the focus it gives you, you know,

00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.210
by, you know. And restraining themselves from

00:47:10.210 --> 00:47:13.389
ejaculating is very powerful. And so one of my

00:47:13.389 --> 00:47:15.329
favorite subjects is to sit down and talk to

00:47:15.329 --> 00:47:20.070
cucks about it because I know a lot of bulls

00:47:20.070 --> 00:47:22.909
in our space, especially the ones that I've met

00:47:22.909 --> 00:47:26.030
at Splash Mocha, they all practice, either practice

00:47:26.030 --> 00:47:28.909
the retention or at least try not to, you know,

00:47:28.909 --> 00:47:30.409
in the beginning because they're like, oh, I'm

00:47:30.409 --> 00:47:34.179
out afterwards. So I really like that part. Denial

00:47:34.179 --> 00:47:36.239
of chastity and then compersion, which is experiencing

00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:39.099
joy from their partner's pleasure. I think that

00:47:39.099 --> 00:47:43.659
is the main crux of being a cuck, is that you

00:47:43.659 --> 00:47:48.719
are actually enjoying, you know, you seeing your

00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:50.519
wife be pleased. So, Siren, let me ask you. I

00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.840
want to ask you both. Siren, do you think a cuck

00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:59.019
can be a cuck without compersion? Not if he's

00:47:59.019 --> 00:48:03.440
a willing cuck. Because, you know, I've seen

00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:06.619
some interviews with cucks that are like, well,

00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.059
I don't really want to do this. But, you know,

00:48:09.059 --> 00:48:11.559
so, yeah, if they're a willing cuck, then I think

00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:14.139
that they're probably the best at compersion.

00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.719
I should probably sit down and find out how to

00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:22.800
do better at that. You know, maybe a cuck can

00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:25.900
teach me something about that. But they really

00:48:25.900 --> 00:48:30.800
wouldn't be a cuck if they didn't enjoy it. Right.

00:48:30.900 --> 00:48:34.320
Mr. Sigma Male. Oh, sorry. Were you? Yeah. Mr.

00:48:34.420 --> 00:48:37.320
Sigma Male, what do you think? Can you be a cuck

00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:42.320
without compersion? I think, in my opinion, compersion

00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:45.199
is the holy grail of the cuckold husband in the

00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:48.039
hot wife lifestyle. And the reason I say it's

00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:52.820
the holy grail, because it gives a platform for

00:48:52.820 --> 00:48:57.159
a cuckold husband to practice devotion to his

00:48:57.159 --> 00:48:59.960
beloved hot wife. I mean, I don't know any other

00:48:59.960 --> 00:49:03.139
way to say it. Oh, I love that. I wrote it down.

00:49:04.380 --> 00:49:07.539
Yeah, I don't know any better way to say it.

00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:10.300
To me, it's the Holy Grail. So, yeah, to answer

00:49:10.300 --> 00:49:12.900
the question, no, you can't. In my opinion, he

00:49:12.900 --> 00:49:16.900
is not a cuckold if he is not embracing compersion

00:49:16.900 --> 00:49:20.039
and vice versa. I actually agree. I actually

00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:23.179
agree with that. I think I love that. The whole

00:49:23.179 --> 00:49:26.059
you just came up with a whole new podcast subject,

00:49:26.139 --> 00:49:29.239
brother. The holy grail of cuckolding. I love

00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:31.519
it. Yeah, because I mean, you know, I mean, if

00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:34.679
he's if he's doing that as a husband, then I

00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:36.860
mean, what is the hot wife doing? Hot wife is

00:49:36.860 --> 00:49:38.840
being the best version of herself. Right. Correct.

00:49:39.059 --> 00:49:41.039
Right. She's really being the best version of

00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:44.679
herself, you know. And then when the cook when

00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.639
the cook sees like, you know, sees her energy,

00:49:47.780 --> 00:49:50.079
you know, when she's doing what she's doing.

00:49:50.879 --> 00:49:54.380
And they bring that together. I mean, Lord, man.

00:49:56.460 --> 00:50:01.159
That sex life of that couple is like, it's just

00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:04.420
so unique. I mean, it is. It's so unique. Even

00:50:04.420 --> 00:50:07.400
when they're not in there, in that character.

00:50:07.659 --> 00:50:08.940
You know what I mean? When they're just out in

00:50:08.940 --> 00:50:11.460
public. You know what I'm saying? I mean, the

00:50:11.460 --> 00:50:12.739
way they flirt with each other, the way they

00:50:12.739 --> 00:50:18.559
might tease. Or if they're like one of my couples

00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:22.360
that I know. who practice, I mean, they are a

00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:27.679
cuckold couple 24 -7, okay? They are 24 -7. That's

00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.900
what he is. He's a cuck all the time. And she,

00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:35.699
you know, is that traditional hot wife that loves,

00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:38.460
you know, black men. And she, I mean, they live

00:50:38.460 --> 00:50:40.940
it 24 -7. And I love being around them because

00:50:40.940 --> 00:50:43.480
I've never been around a couple where they are

00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.699
that all the time, you know? So it's a beautiful

00:50:46.699 --> 00:50:49.659
thing to say. Yeah, I love it. And just to finish

00:50:49.659 --> 00:50:52.280
out the definition for all of us nerds here,

00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:56.039
it does something that I didn't ask it to do,

00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:58.039
which I really like. It tells you the difference

00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.579
between a cuck versus hot wife versus stag vixen.

00:51:00.619 --> 00:51:04.000
And it says, a cuck dynamic often includes an

00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.800
element of submission or humiliation, while a

00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.159
hot wife dynamic, where a man enjoys his wife

00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:11.800
being with others, does not necessarily involve

00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:14.780
those aspects. The stag vixen dynamic is another

00:51:14.780 --> 00:51:17.809
version, I mean variation, Where the man, the

00:51:17.809 --> 00:51:20.349
stag, enjoys his partner, the vixen, being with

00:51:20.349 --> 00:51:23.210
other men, but retains a more dominant or equal

00:51:23.210 --> 00:51:30.230
role. And I completely agree with that. So we

00:51:30.230 --> 00:51:34.130
basically have gone over all the aspects of the

00:51:34.130 --> 00:51:39.110
dynamics of the lifestyle that we think are the

00:51:39.110 --> 00:51:41.849
main ones. It doesn't mean it's an exhaustive

00:51:41.849 --> 00:51:44.659
list, guys. But we did want to give you this

00:51:44.659 --> 00:51:47.000
perspective from our perspective. And in the

00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:51.159
future, what you can expect from us is that we're

00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:54.380
going to talk about everything ethical non -monogamy

00:51:54.380 --> 00:51:57.119
from our perspective. So just because we're bulls

00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:02.960
and my wife being a vixen doesn't mean that we're

00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:06.199
not going to talk about polyamory or that we're

00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:09.019
not going to talk about, you know, being a unicorn

00:52:09.019 --> 00:52:13.300
and have unicorns and poly couples. on the show

00:52:13.300 --> 00:52:16.579
because for us for example you know we can we

00:52:16.579 --> 00:52:18.880
can say this because michael c is all over the

00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:23.139
place with his podcast and he'll be on ours and

00:52:23.139 --> 00:52:26.179
other podcasts we're on he is in a situation

00:52:26.179 --> 00:52:29.980
where he's poly right he has two women in his

00:52:29.980 --> 00:52:35.519
life and he's also a bull right and so and and

00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:38.159
so there's all kinds of ways to do it we definitely

00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:41.269
want to emphasize that this is not about pigeonholing

00:52:41.269 --> 00:52:43.869
anybody into these definitions. And this is not

00:52:43.869 --> 00:52:46.829
about chat GBT being the authority of it. Right.

00:52:46.909 --> 00:52:50.250
So we just want to come and give you our perspectives.

00:52:50.530 --> 00:52:56.329
And with the Mr. Sigma male, you know, as I call

00:52:56.329 --> 00:53:00.690
him being our resident expert of over 30 years

00:53:00.690 --> 00:53:05.050
of experience. So did you guys want to talk about

00:53:05.050 --> 00:53:09.550
anything else before we get out of here? I mean,

00:53:09.550 --> 00:53:14.389
always. Ladies first, I'm sorry. I mean, there's

00:53:14.389 --> 00:53:18.030
always something else to talk about. So we will

00:53:18.030 --> 00:53:21.030
save it for another time. So I assume then we're

00:53:21.030 --> 00:53:23.789
going to talk more about the cook sitting on

00:53:23.789 --> 00:53:26.809
a different episode and getting the full story.

00:53:27.269 --> 00:53:32.010
Yeah, I want to really dig deep into those stories.

00:53:32.050 --> 00:53:37.639
I mean, that story from... The start to. Yeah.

00:53:37.659 --> 00:53:39.300
Cause it was like a four month buildup. Yeah.

00:53:39.420 --> 00:53:41.920
I mean. Of like talking to them and getting to

00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.639
that point. And, and I think too, like one of

00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:47.400
the things that we need to emphasize on this

00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:51.559
is like that couple was perfect for us because,

00:53:51.619 --> 00:53:55.760
you know, I'm new in being a bull in that sense,

00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:59.420
especially a married bull. And then, you know,

00:53:59.420 --> 00:54:01.400
that was your first time cook sitting and it

00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:03.480
was just an amazing event. And we've done it

00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:07.199
one or two times after that. But it wasn't like

00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:09.500
the first time. And so some people have really

00:54:09.500 --> 00:54:11.739
bad experiences. Our experience was just like.

00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.059
Man, knocked it out of the park the first time.

00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:16.860
And there's so many other details. So, yeah,

00:54:16.900 --> 00:54:20.300
we want to get into those later. But, yeah, for

00:54:20.300 --> 00:54:23.659
tonight, we just wanted to finish that up. This

00:54:23.659 --> 00:54:26.300
is part two of our introduction pilot episode,

00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:28.739
just to kind of let you know. Now you have a

00:54:28.739 --> 00:54:31.840
little bit of the terms. You understand where

00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:34.400
we come from in the lifestyle and our perspectives.

00:54:35.750 --> 00:54:38.530
And, you know, we're going to start moving towards

00:54:38.530 --> 00:54:43.210
getting into more details. So stay tuned in.

00:54:43.550 --> 00:54:46.070
You know, we're going to have a great time with

00:54:46.070 --> 00:54:48.329
this. We're going to try to get this out before

00:54:48.329 --> 00:54:52.570
the Splash Mocha event. That's going to be a

00:54:52.570 --> 00:54:54.829
really fun event. Or hopefully we'll have a couple

00:54:54.829 --> 00:54:57.809
of episodes out for all of our listeners. And

00:54:57.809 --> 00:55:00.889
we will definitely be doing several podcasts

00:55:00.889 --> 00:55:05.070
on site with all of our. you know, all of our

00:55:05.070 --> 00:55:07.530
friends that are podcasters and people that are

00:55:07.530 --> 00:55:09.769
in the lifestyle. And we get to interview and

00:55:09.769 --> 00:55:11.610
see people that we normally don't see because

00:55:11.610 --> 00:55:13.230
it's all over the country, actually all over

00:55:13.230 --> 00:55:15.690
the world. People come from Europe, South America,

00:55:15.789 --> 00:55:20.210
you know, Northern, Northern, North America.

00:55:20.730 --> 00:55:26.710
So we're excited. Very much so. All right, Mr.

00:55:26.829 --> 00:55:30.489
Morgan, you want to close this out? Yeah, I was

00:55:30.489 --> 00:55:32.849
just going to say, ladies and gentlemen, please.

00:55:33.469 --> 00:55:36.010
Give us your feedback. Please give us your feedback.

00:55:36.670 --> 00:55:39.389
When everything comes out, we're definitely looking

00:55:39.389 --> 00:55:43.750
for feedback from everybody out there, positive

00:55:43.750 --> 00:55:46.630
and negative, okay? Give us your thoughts. I

00:55:46.630 --> 00:55:50.170
know Socrates gave you his – where did you give

00:55:50.170 --> 00:55:52.349
him last time, Socrates? Twitter, Instagram,

00:55:52.650 --> 00:55:55.090
et cetera? Yeah, I want them to email us right

00:55:55.090 --> 00:55:58.050
now. We're going to set all these other things

00:55:58.050 --> 00:56:01.389
up. But right now you can email us at – Siren

00:56:01.389 --> 00:56:06.429
Media Productions at gmail .com. Siren Media

00:56:06.429 --> 00:56:11.650
Productions at gmail .com. And in the subject

00:56:11.650 --> 00:56:14.510
line, make sure you put the Bull Brotherhood

00:56:14.510 --> 00:56:18.150
Podcast and then talk to us and we will definitely

00:56:18.150 --> 00:56:19.750
get you back. And then we'll have an episode

00:56:19.750 --> 00:56:23.130
where we'll have an Ask Me Anything episode and

00:56:23.130 --> 00:56:25.969
we will take a collection of your questions and

00:56:25.969 --> 00:56:29.349
issues and concerns and we'll address those.

00:56:29.820 --> 00:56:31.460
you know, specifically. So we're looking forward

00:56:31.460 --> 00:56:35.699
to hearing from you guys. Exactly. And as all,

00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.639
and as I always close, excuse me here again,

00:56:38.699 --> 00:56:41.739
I can't talk again, but as I always close to

00:56:41.739 --> 00:56:44.840
my, uh, bull brothers out there, good night.

00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:49.219
And to my beautiful hot wives and unicorn ladies

00:56:49.219 --> 00:56:53.320
out there. Good morning. Again, I am the Morgan,

00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:57.019
AKA the Sigma male signing off with the beautiful

00:56:57.019 --> 00:57:02.389
siren. and my nephew Socrates. Until next time,

00:57:02.409 --> 00:57:04.150
ladies and gentlemen, have a wonderful evening.

00:57:04.289 --> 00:57:08.929
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00:57:08.929 --> 00:57:12.530
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00:57:12.530 --> 00:57:17.269
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00:57:17.269 --> 00:57:21.210
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00:57:21.210 --> 00:57:24.849
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00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.679
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00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.780
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00:57:31.780 --> 00:57:35.559
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00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:39.880
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00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:42.820
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00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.659
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00:57:45.659 --> 00:57:50.360
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00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:53.960
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00:57:54.860 --> 00:57:57.880
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00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:01.480
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00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:04.420
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00:58:04.500 --> 00:58:07.579
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00:58:07.579 --> 00:58:10.360
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00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:13.760
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00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.900
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00:58:19.500 --> 00:58:22.679
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00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:26.059
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00:58:26.059 --> 00:58:29.000
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00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:31.980
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00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:35.760
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00:58:36.420 --> 00:58:39.840
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00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:43.139
ready to elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives,

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stags, and open -minded explorers, we see you.

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Let's go.