00:00:00:15 - 00:00:01:01
I'm Dr.

00:00:01:01 - 00:00:04:02
Rob Winn and you're listening
to Real Cancer Talk

00:00:04:02 - 00:00:07:02
from VCU Massey
Comprehensive Cancer Center.

00:00:07:20 - 00:00:11:15
Welcome, everybody to a another Real Talk

00:00:12:18 - 00:00:13:12
podcast.

00:00:13:12 - 00:00:16:12
And, 
I have someone special with us today.

00:00:16:21 - 00:00:19:20
You know, we, from time to time

00:00:19:20 - 00:00:25:15
as we're really thinking about this cancer
fight, sometimes we don't think

00:00:25:15 - 00:00:29:16
about all the connections and the teams
that are sort of involved with that fight.

00:00:30:08 - 00:00:33:08
I want to tell you that,
I met someone named Chris.

00:00:33:15 - 00:00:34:14
Chris Williams.

00:00:34:14 - 00:00:36:17
We'll introduce him in a second.

00:00:36:17 - 00:00:42:01
From the, modified racing, 
sort of tour circuit for NASCAR.

00:00:42:01 - 00:00:46:05
And I have to say that

00:00:46:05 - 00:00:51:00
the work that he and others like, folks 
who are other avid race

00:00:51:00 - 00:00:54:02
car fans, like,
Senator Stanley and others,

00:00:54:20 - 00:00:58:11
I actually have to say that it's
one of the first times,

00:00:58:13 - 00:01:02:21
and one of the few times in my life
that when you see something

00:01:02:21 - 00:01:06:16
from a different perspective,
it really allows you to grow as a person.

00:01:07:04 - 00:01:11:07
And so, Chris,
I'm going to introduce yourself, man,

00:01:11:07 - 00:01:13:01
because I'm probably not going to do
you any justice.

00:01:13:01 - 00:01:14:23
But I will say this about Chris.

00:01:14:23 - 00:01:19:07
Chris is not only passionate
about car racing,

00:01:19:17 - 00:01:24:06
but the thing that actually has 
really moved me the most, Chris, about you

00:01:24:13 - 00:01:29:05
is your passion to allow partners
to work together for the greater

00:01:29:05 - 00:01:31:14
good of our communities, particularly
our rural communities,

00:01:31:14 - 00:01:33:09
just like, you know, Senator Stan Lee. So.

00:01:33:09 - 00:01:37:07
So, I know I can't do you justice,
but could you tell us a little bit

00:01:37:07 - 00:01:38:12
about yourself?

00:01:38:12 - 00:01:38:24
Yeah.

00:01:38:24 - 00:01:43:04
So, Chris Williams, I'm
the owner, CEO of the Smart Modified tour.

00:01:43:04 - 00:01:46:04
That's Southern Modified
Auto Racing Teams Tour.

00:01:46:24 - 00:01:49:24
I, I kind of

00:01:50:12 - 00:01:53:22
got involved in it
during the pandemic, of all things.

00:01:54:06 - 00:01:58:16
I was working
as vice president of Fanatics.

00:01:58:17 - 00:02:01:24
So I then all of the football jerseys

00:02:01:24 - 00:02:05:08
and all of the retail and stuff
at the Super Bowl and the Kentucky Derby.

00:02:05:08 - 00:02:06:22
I was having a blast.

00:02:06:22 - 00:02:10:10
And then when the pandemic hit,
it kind of changed a lot of things.

00:02:10:10 - 00:02:15:07
And I was racing a little bit at the,
you know, the Bowman Gray

00:02:15:07 - 00:02:19:05
and some of those racetracks,
and a couple of people approached me

00:02:19:05 - 00:02:21:03
and says, hey, man,
we need to start this tour back.

00:02:21:03 - 00:02:23:18
It's been kind of dormant for a few years.

00:02:23:18 - 00:02:28:04
And, you know, with your business acronym
and stuff, we need to get it going.

00:02:28:04 - 00:02:31:08
And you have a passion for business,
but you have a passion for racing.

00:02:31:17 - 00:02:32:20
And I was born into it.

00:02:32:20 - 00:02:36:04
So my dad was a general manager
at the Martinsville Speedway.

00:02:36:09 - 00:02:39:07
Grew up on Racetrack Road all my life.

00:02:39:07 - 00:02:40:21
I loved it.

00:02:40:21 - 00:02:44:16
Had a passion for the racing,
but I became really best friends

00:02:44:16 - 00:02:46:08
with Dale Earnhardt.

00:02:46:08 - 00:02:48:14
That is not junior as Dale
Earnhardt senior.

00:02:48:14 - 00:02:52:00
And so me and Dale hit it off
really good.

00:02:52:13 - 00:02:56:20
Representing him in business from the 80s
until he passed.

00:02:56:20 - 00:03:00:22
And, NASCAR bought out the contracts and,

00:03:00:22 - 00:03:05:21
I represented all the teams in the drivers
and fortune 500 companies.

00:03:05:21 - 00:03:09:17
It didn't matter if it was Coca-Cola,
Pepsi, Eminem's Mars, you name it.

00:03:09:17 - 00:03:11:10
I represented them all.

00:03:11:10 - 00:03:14:21
And I come to find out that, you know,
they all are like us.

00:03:14:21 - 00:03:16:16
They have a passion
for what they're doing.

00:03:16:16 - 00:03:18:18
It's not just in business.

00:03:18:18 - 00:03:21:18
It's about doing something
that is making a change.

00:03:21:18 - 00:03:27:07
Sometimes it's product, sometimes it's,
you know, a benefit to the individual.

00:03:27:07 - 00:03:30:19
It can help not only in health,
but it also can help in other things.

00:03:30:19 - 00:03:34:15
And when you see people
that have a passion like you have,

00:03:34:16 - 00:03:38:08
you know, trying to get it out
to the public, and benefit them,

00:03:38:08 - 00:03:43:13
you know, everybody thinks it's
all about material, monetary stuff.

00:03:43:13 - 00:03:49:08
And a lot of times it's about the passion
they have to create an easement or

00:03:50:13 - 00:03:53:13
cure or something for that individual.

00:03:53:22 - 00:03:55:09
And it's never about the money.

00:03:55:09 - 00:03:59:10
It's all about 100%
making that person's life better.

00:04:00:00 - 00:04:02:03
And so go ahead.

00:04:02:03 - 00:04:02:22
Yeah, man.

00:04:02:22 - 00:04:05:20
You just hit on something about,

00:04:05:20 - 00:04:08:01
What I love about it is

00:04:08:01 - 00:04:12:11
that you have thought about this passion
and making people's lives better,

00:04:12:23 - 00:04:16:14
and I was thinking about the race car
circuits, and,

00:04:16:22 - 00:04:19:23
a number of them are in very rural areas.

00:04:20:10 - 00:04:24:18
So how do you see the race car,
you know, sort of lifting up people,

00:04:24:18 - 00:04:28:06
bringing smiles or bringing joy to people,
particularly in rural communities?

00:04:28:14 - 00:04:31:14
Well, rural communities are,
you know, it's it's

00:04:31:18 - 00:04:34:02
you go back
and you think about rural communities.

00:04:34:02 - 00:04:37:02
What is there to do in rural communities?

00:04:37:09 - 00:04:42:09
I mean, you have football, you know,
you have basketball games, high school.

00:04:42:20 - 00:04:45:15
But what is there to do? Right?

00:04:45:15 - 00:04:49:08
And so when you think about racing
historically,

00:04:49:20 - 00:04:53:14
you know, in these rural areas
and Franklin County and South Boston,

00:04:53:14 - 00:04:55:03
Virginia and stuff,

00:04:55:03 - 00:04:58:00
you know, they want to go out
racing on Saturday night

00:04:58:00 - 00:05:00:18
and, you know, have their fastest cars
against your fastest car.

00:05:00:18 - 00:05:02:09
And sometimes it's a rivalry down

00:05:02:09 - 00:05:06:06
the street or rivalry
across town or whatever, you know.

00:05:06:06 - 00:05:07:08
And that passion becomes

00:05:07:08 - 00:05:10:08
I've got to build something
better to beat that individual.

00:05:10:17 - 00:05:15:05
And so in the community,
you become a fan of one or the other

00:05:15:05 - 00:05:18:05
or one of the three or whatever,
and the next thing you know,

00:05:18:17 - 00:05:22:21
you're looking for that Saturday night
from April till October to go out and,

00:05:22:22 - 00:05:24:03
you know, have something to do.

00:05:24:03 - 00:05:25:22
And you don't see that everywhere.

00:05:25:22 - 00:05:26:20
You don't

00:05:26:20 - 00:05:28:20
you know,
a lot of people have touring and,

00:05:28:20 - 00:05:30:15
you know,
a lot of people like football has,

00:05:30:15 - 00:05:34:16
you know, visitations to other towns
and there's nothing going on in there.

00:05:34:16 - 00:05:38:05
Well, this racetrack is every Saturday
night, right?

00:05:38:06 - 00:05:41:07
It's it's a passion for you to go up, say,
hey, let's go out with,

00:05:41:16 - 00:05:45:00
you know, tailgate, you know, let's go
sometimes, you know, have a drink.

00:05:45:00 - 00:05:47:19
Sometimes it's a cookout or whatever.

00:05:47:19 - 00:05:50:01
And let's go root for the guys.

00:05:50:01 - 00:05:54:03
And most of these people find out
most of these people find out that

00:05:55:05 - 00:05:57:06
they can become part of the team as well.

00:05:57:06 - 00:05:57:22
Right?

00:05:57:22 - 00:06:00:22
And and they are habitual.

00:06:01:02 - 00:06:02:15
It's the same habits.

00:06:02:15 - 00:06:06:00
They go to the same convenience store,
to the same place to get their wings

00:06:06:00 - 00:06:07:02
that they're going to cook,

00:06:07:02 - 00:06:11:01
you know, the same everything the grill,
the charcoal and everything else.

00:06:11:01 - 00:06:15:23
And so the most amazing thing about it
is, is it is a community.

00:06:16:14 - 00:06:19:09
And the racing community as a family

00:06:19:09 - 00:06:23:04
and people doesn't understand
that is truly a family.

00:06:23:04 - 00:06:25:02
And you go and fight for them,

00:06:25:02 - 00:06:28:17
you go bet against them,
you go to root against them.

00:06:28:17 - 00:06:31:02
But at the end of the day, you're one.

00:06:31:02 - 00:06:35:19
And so it's pretty cool to see these rural
communities in these racing communities

00:06:35:20 - 00:06:36:24
drive the way they do.

00:06:36:24 - 00:06:42:00
And you know, what we try to do is
we try to keep the costs down so they can

00:06:42:00 - 00:06:45:19
come out and take a family of four
to a racetrack for X amount of dollars.

00:06:46:02 - 00:06:50:04
And, you know, we try to do the things
for the competitors where we don't,

00:06:50:13 - 00:06:54:09
you know, buy two, three, four
sets of tires, we buy five,

00:06:54:17 - 00:06:58:03
we run 99 laps
because we don't run 200, 250

00:06:58:03 - 00:07:02:01
because every, you know, a thousand laps,
you got to refurbish the engine.

00:07:02:01 - 00:07:04:18
It's $8,000 or $10,000.
So you keep the cost down.

00:07:04:18 - 00:07:08:13
So everything that we do
really realistically is

00:07:08:13 - 00:07:12:11
to, you know, explain to your wife
or your significant other

00:07:13:10 - 00:07:14:18
that I'll go take a chance on

00:07:14:18 - 00:07:18:12
winning $1000 or $2000 for $800 to $1000.

00:07:18:23 - 00:07:21:12
You know, I'd be no different
than you wanting to go to the casino

00:07:21:12 - 00:07:25:14
and gamble for a weekend or or whatever,
but at the same time,

00:07:26:03 - 00:07:29:22
you can't go explain that
you're spending $10,000 to go win four,

00:07:30:05 - 00:07:33:05
because eventually somebody's
going to realize this is dumb.

00:07:33:06 - 00:07:36:01
This is not smart to do.

00:07:36:01 - 00:07:38:06
Could you say the math don't math?

00:07:38:06 - 00:07:40:11
It, don't math. No way.

00:07:40:11 - 00:07:42:24
And so trying to keep the cost down.

00:07:42:24 - 00:07:47:10
Try to keeping it local,
trying to keep it in the communities that,

00:07:47:10 - 00:07:50:18
you know, sometimes
don't have a lot to do on the weekend.

00:07:50:18 - 00:07:54:15
And it's it's it's pretty significant
to see people run to Bowman Gray

00:07:54:15 - 00:07:58:08
every night or run to Franklin County
every Saturday night, or run to South

00:07:58:08 - 00:08:02:11
Boston every, you know, Langley,
you know, all these Virginia tracks.

00:08:02:11 - 00:08:03:15
It's a destination.

00:08:03:15 - 00:08:06:17
And that's why they pack 3000
or 4000 people in there.

00:08:06:17 - 00:08:10:10
And then a special event like ours,
you know, you can do 9000 people there.

00:08:10:10 - 00:08:15:11
I mean, that becomes a significant
location not only for the economy,

00:08:15:24 - 00:08:19:03
you know, because you're bringing outside
people coming into the event.

00:08:19:05 - 00:08:23:01
It's traveling,
it's buying fuel, it's spending hotels

00:08:23:01 - 00:08:24:21
that, you know, coming to that event.

00:08:26:19 - 00:08:27:01
It's a

00:08:27:01 - 00:08:30:09
significant it's a significant thing
to be a part of the community

00:08:31:05 - 00:08:33:12
and especially in the grassroots areas,

00:08:33:12 - 00:08:36:13
that we go to where
there's not a lot going on.

00:08:36:23 - 00:08:39:07
And I love that, by the way.

00:08:39:07 - 00:08:43:21
You know, for those, because we are going
to get into our partnerships, and why

00:08:44:07 - 00:08:45:21
public private partnerships,

00:08:45:21 - 00:08:48:24
why these types of partnerships
are actually going to be important.

00:08:49:11 - 00:08:51:02
But, you know, I'm a little bit of a hit
you up.

00:08:51:02 - 00:08:52:06
You know, you took me to the track.

00:08:52:06 - 00:08:55:06
So now I actually have looked at,
you know, race car.

00:08:55:08 - 00:08:57:06
Can you give for those, there

00:08:57:06 - 00:09:00:11
going to be many
who will hear this podcast who this may be

00:09:00:11 - 00:09:04:15
the first time they think about how race
car started, how racing started.

00:09:04:24 - 00:09:08:12
What why do we talk about modified
racing is really bringing it

00:09:08:12 - 00:09:10:10
all back home for us?

00:09:10:10 - 00:09:11:07
Could you just

00:09:11:07 - 00:09:15:14
in a very brief way oriented because this
the folks who were saying modify

00:09:15:18 - 00:09:16:14
what the?

00:09:16:14 - 00:09:19:06
So could you give the history of racing

00:09:19:06 - 00:09:22:20
in a very short synopsis
and why Virginia is important in that?

00:09:23:03 - 00:09:25:13
Yeah. So short in all reality,

00:09:26:12 - 00:09:27:24
it's started

00:09:27:24 - 00:09:32:00
very, very early on and basically

00:09:32:00 - 00:09:35:17
moving liquid moonshine
from state to state,

00:09:36:01 - 00:09:41:01
and basically in the short term,
my car is faster than your car.

00:09:41:07 - 00:09:43:20
Well,
let's just go down to this little dirt

00:09:43:20 - 00:09:46:20
circle down here
and let's just race them and let's see.

00:09:47:06 - 00:09:51:15
And so then it became a competition
all the way down from Atlanta,

00:09:52:02 - 00:09:54:06
you know, all the way up to,

00:09:54:06 - 00:09:57:05
you know, northern Pennsylvania, that,
you know, this

00:09:57:05 - 00:09:59:10
this bootlegger,
this moonshiner was gonna,

00:09:59:10 - 00:10:02:07
you know, come through
and he's got the fastest hot rod.

00:10:02:07 - 00:10:05:09
And so it became,
I can build a faster hot rod and you.

00:10:05:09 - 00:10:09:10
And so then somebody decided, bingo,
let's, let's let's sanction this.

00:10:09:12 - 00:10:13:05
The sanction is instead of the cops
trying to run after us, and, you know,

00:10:13:11 - 00:10:16:14
it being moonshine in the back
and people's lives at risk.

00:10:16:14 - 00:10:19:16
Let's do this.
And so it's not a stock car.

00:10:19:23 - 00:10:20:21
You say what is stock?

00:10:20:21 - 00:10:23:21
Stock is like a normal tempered car

00:10:23:22 - 00:10:27:18
where it has fenders
and you know it's got the same motor.

00:10:27:18 - 00:10:29:18
It's is totally opposite.

00:10:29:18 - 00:10:32:18
These things derive
from taking the fenders off

00:10:33:03 - 00:10:37:08
to have an open wheels
less drag lower to the ground.

00:10:37:15 - 00:10:38:05
And it's big.

00:10:38:05 - 00:10:42:11
A big block as you can buy or build
back in the day, like Junior Johnson,

00:10:42:11 - 00:10:46:11
who was not only building his own cars,
you know, to move the moonshine,

00:10:46:11 - 00:10:50:11
but he was also, you know, turning
a lick or two so he can sell it.

00:10:50:22 - 00:10:55:14
And so it became to the point
where it became a competition

00:10:56:01 - 00:11:01:00
of the fastest, driver and the most
skilled driver in the fastest car.

00:11:01:00 - 00:11:04:24
And it's kind of how it became modified
because the motor was modified,

00:11:05:05 - 00:11:08:02
the chassis was modified,
everything was modified.

00:11:08:02 - 00:11:11:02
And it actually when NASCAR started,
this became

00:11:11:02 - 00:11:15:00
the longest running sanction
that NASCAR put together.

00:11:15:00 - 00:11:18:06
It's the first basically race car
that started was a modified.

00:11:18:12 - 00:11:23:14
And so it's been going,
you know, since 40s and 50s.

00:11:23:16 - 00:11:28:16
Red Baron won the first championship,
you know, and he was an airline

00:11:28:24 - 00:11:32:23
fighter pilot from over in the war.

00:11:33:07 - 00:11:34:02
He came over here

00:11:34:02 - 00:11:37:17
and he won the championship
when they first put the sanction together.

00:11:38:04 - 00:11:39:11
And it's been going ever since.

00:11:39:11 - 00:11:42:12
And these modifieds, if you
if you've never been to a modified race,

00:11:43:00 - 00:11:44:13
these modifieds are slick.

00:11:44:13 - 00:11:46:06
They're low to the ground.

00:11:46:06 - 00:11:49:06
These modifieds are 650 horsepower.

00:11:49:07 - 00:11:52:04
They sound like the ground trembling.

00:11:52:04 - 00:11:55:20
It sounds like a
an earthquake on steroids.

00:11:55:23 - 00:11:57:02
I mean, I'm being honest.

00:11:57:02 - 00:12:01:17
It smells like a true built
motor should smell

00:12:01:17 - 00:12:05:10
like with fuel, gasoline
and all combined burning.

00:12:05:16 - 00:12:08:06
I mean, it's just it's it's awesome.

00:12:08:06 - 00:12:10:14
And actually, that's the short version.

00:12:10:14 - 00:12:13:06
And actually you got to ride one,

00:12:13:06 - 00:12:16:02
which is probably one of the coolest
things I've seen this year.

00:12:18:02 - 00:12:18:19
Listen,

00:12:18:19 - 00:12:21:19
I was praying all the way,
but it all worked out.

00:12:22:03 - 00:12:25:08
It was probably the most fun
I think I've ever had in a car.

00:12:25:08 - 00:12:28:08
And, the best experience
I think I've ever had ever.

00:12:28:11 - 00:12:31:14
So, you know, it's got me thinking about,
you know,

00:12:32:10 - 00:12:35:14
again, rural communities
are thinking about creative ways.

00:12:35:14 - 00:12:37:06
And I got to give credit to,

00:12:37:06 - 00:12:40:23
Senator Stanley
because he is, and many of the other,

00:12:41:07 - 00:12:44:01
legislators, in the rural community

00:12:44:01 - 00:12:47:19
for opening up my eyes into his one word.

00:12:48:15 - 00:12:50:08
If you're going to get to
some of these communities,

00:12:50:08 - 00:12:53:08
you got to go to where they
where they, where their at.

00:12:53:11 - 00:12:58:20
And his introduction, of of of me to you

00:12:59:02 - 00:13:03:24
is probably one of the most important
moments for me in recognizing

00:13:03:24 - 00:13:07:07
that frequently we want to do good
sometimes in the health field,

00:13:07:19 - 00:13:10:22
but we're not always where the money is,
so to speak.

00:13:11:06 - 00:13:14:06
And, what I loved about our partnership

00:13:14:17 - 00:13:18:17
was that we, started understanding
that we have the same goal

00:13:19:03 - 00:13:22:17
to make people better
and to give them moments

00:13:22:17 - 00:13:28:17
where they can feel better and move
better and, and just be better overall.

00:13:28:17 - 00:13:30:24
And, I think that that partnership

00:13:31:23 - 00:13:32:16
between,

00:13:32:16 - 00:13:36:17
and this emerging partnership
between Massey

00:13:37:02 - 00:13:40:16
and I think the Modified
Racing Series is one that

00:13:40:16 - 00:13:44:13
I have to say has been really an honor
for me to be a part of.

00:13:44:19 - 00:13:47:20
So could you tell me
why anyone interested, though,

00:13:47:20 - 00:13:50:20
in Modified Racing will let a crazy cancer
center director,

00:13:51:24 - 00:13:54:24
you know, partner with the Modified Race
Series?

00:13:56:00 - 00:13:57:18
Well, first of all,

00:13:57:18 - 00:14:00:06
I think anybody that partners with us,

00:14:00:06 - 00:14:03:06
or, you know, with you guys
or anybody else,

00:14:03:15 - 00:14:07:03
they really are into the local

00:14:07:19 - 00:14:10:19
realm

00:14:10:22 - 00:14:12:10
of the common person, right?

00:14:12:10 - 00:14:13:14
It's a blue collar person.

00:14:13:14 - 00:14:14:19
Right?

00:14:14:19 - 00:14:17:10
It's because they're there working
each and every day.

00:14:17:10 - 00:14:19:09
They're there,
you know, taking their family.

00:14:19:09 - 00:14:23:24
They're all about supporting
the communities and stuff of that nature.

00:14:23:24 - 00:14:27:00
And Senator Stanley got involved in it

00:14:27:12 - 00:14:32:20
a few years ago
because he came to motor mile

00:14:33:00 - 00:14:36:15
and asked me about what
my long term goal was.

00:14:37:03 - 00:14:41:06
And, you know, I've had a passion
to bring as many people with me.

00:14:41:06 - 00:14:44:11
Look, when we win
we all win right, every one of us.

00:14:44:11 - 00:14:50:09
And the reason we do that
is because we know what

00:14:50:09 - 00:14:54:15
we're trying to get accomplished,
which is to take care of that,

00:14:55:06 - 00:14:58:17
that fan base,
that customer, that competitor,

00:14:58:17 - 00:15:03:05
that owner, the track facility
we're trying to take care of everybody.

00:15:03:05 - 00:15:07:20
And the Smart Modified tour,
you know, is a touring series

00:15:07:20 - 00:15:12:18
that really takes care of their sponsors
because they w ant to get the message

00:15:12:24 - 00:15:16:02
and they want value into their sponsor
to be a part of us.

00:15:16:02 - 00:15:18:20
And I
and I learned that at a long time ago,

00:15:18:20 - 00:15:21:15
you know, from MnMs and Coca-Cola
and the rest of it.

00:15:21:15 - 00:15:22:10
What are we doing it for?

00:15:22:10 - 00:15:26:10
It's just not about our name,
but it's usually education, right?

00:15:26:10 - 00:15:30:24
It's usually education is what you're
trying to get across with your brand

00:15:30:24 - 00:15:32:10
and why you're advertising.

00:15:32:10 - 00:15:36:00
Because, number one,
a lot of people don't know...

00:15:36:00 - 00:15:39:15
Let’s use Massey in this case,
a lot of people don't know

00:15:39:15 - 00:15:43:11
how successful y'all are
of treating certain cancer.

00:15:43:11 - 00:15:44:13
Right.

00:15:44:13 - 00:15:47:18
And how do you go about getting that?

00:15:47:18 - 00:15:51:17
And and if I can open the door
for every one of our fan base,

00:15:52:14 - 00:15:56:22
you know, whether it's 9000 people at the
racetrack this weekend or whether it's

00:15:56:22 - 00:16:01:08
the millions that follow us on Facebook
and social media through flow,

00:16:02:02 - 00:16:05:10
is if I can give them an opportunity
to use it as an outlet

00:16:06:05 - 00:16:10:03
that they weren't aware of before,
especially with the rate

00:16:10:03 - 00:16:15:06
that you guys have in attacking that
they why not give it to them?

00:16:15:12 - 00:16:18:21
You don't want to little, you don't want
a little piece of the pie, right?

00:16:19:07 - 00:16:20:16
You want a whole pie.

00:16:20:16 - 00:16:23:03
You don't want one of the best doctors.

00:16:23:03 - 00:16:24:18
You want all the best doctors.

00:16:24:18 - 00:16:26:16
You don't want one network.

00:16:26:16 - 00:16:28:21
You want all the network. You know why?

00:16:28:21 - 00:16:33:08
Because when you're thrust
into these things, that's unexpected.

00:16:33:09 - 00:16:34:20
You don't know what you're fighting.

00:16:34:20 - 00:16:36:23
You want everybody
to fight with you, right?

00:16:36:23 - 00:16:39:00
You want to ask somebody collected.

00:16:39:00 - 00:16:40:23
And let's attack this.

00:16:40:23 - 00:16:45:14
And so for it for Massey to come in
and be a part of our series

00:16:46:00 - 00:16:49:16
to me, benefits us more than it
benefits Massey.

00:16:49:16 - 00:16:50:19
And I'm gonna tell you why.

00:16:50:19 - 00:16:54:15
Because we see the end result from what
you guys have put in the hard work.

00:16:55:14 - 00:16:56:21
So, this is

00:16:56:21 - 00:16:59:21
where I'm at the racetrack today,
so this is going to be an interruption.

00:16:59:23 - 00:17:00:18
little early. Yeah.

00:17:00:18 - 00:17:02:01
So we're we're,

00:17:02:01 - 00:17:05:21
let everybody know we're getting ready
to open the gates here just a little bit.

00:17:05:24 - 00:17:07:18
Well, you know what?

00:17:07:18 - 00:17:09:11
You know what, brother Chris?

00:17:09:11 - 00:17:12:17
What I'm hoping is
I was kind of hoping to keep you online

00:17:12:17 - 00:17:17:06
because I'm hoping you will take us
around the track or something.

00:17:17:16 - 00:17:20:00
I'm getting ready to. Man listen.

00:17:20:00 - 00:17:21:02
So you know what you just said

00:17:21:02 - 00:17:24:03
that was really important for me
is this concept of one team, one fight.

00:17:24:03 - 00:17:27:18
And that many people believe,

00:17:28:12 - 00:17:31:12
they're holding on to old beliefs
from the 1970s,

00:17:31:22 - 00:17:35:09
that when you get cancer, there's
not a dog on thing you can do about it.

00:17:35:22 - 00:17:39:21
That's not been true in fact, 36%
more Americans in

00:17:39:21 - 00:17:44:02
the United States are living with cancer
than they were in 1991.

00:17:44:16 - 00:17:49:02
So 31, 36% more
people are living with cancer,

00:17:49:19 - 00:17:52:16
today than relative to 1991.

00:17:52:16 - 00:17:55:05
And that just didn't happen
because people just happened to started

00:17:55:05 - 00:17:58:05
drinking carrot juice and taking,
you know, even kale.

00:17:58:06 - 00:18:01:12
It started because we really have had

00:18:01:12 - 00:18:04:20
the science that taxpayer dollars go to.

00:18:04:20 - 00:18:07:21
You has really been working
to new modern day

00:18:07:21 - 00:18:11:08
miracles of medicines
that we now know how to treat.

00:18:11:08 - 00:18:15:20
In fact, I was telling someone, 
for example, with melanomas in the 19...

00:18:15:20 - 00:18:18:20
between, before 2010,

00:18:18:21 - 00:18:21:15
if you had advanced stage melanoma,
you might as well

00:18:21:15 - 00:18:24:24
just been getting your will
and your in your orders in affair.

00:18:25:07 - 00:18:28:17
Since 2010, with the new medicines
we've had that

00:18:28:22 - 00:18:31:23
survivorship for melanomas
is close to nine over 90%.

00:18:32:10 - 00:18:35:03
Prostate cancer
deaths have been cut in half, breast

00:18:35:03 - 00:18:36:12
cancers have been doing great.

00:18:36:12 - 00:18:38:24
Lung cancer
has been substantially reduced.

00:18:38:24 - 00:18:41:21
In fact,
when I was when I was a medical student,

00:18:41:21 - 00:18:45:02
we used to say that, if you had lung
cancer, that was the end of the road.

00:18:45:02 - 00:18:48:07
There wasn't a whole lot we could do for
you other than tell you to go to Disney.

00:18:48:14 - 00:18:52:05
But now, you know, since,

00:18:52:05 - 00:18:57:10
I started in the 1960s, which was 6%, 
five years survival from lung cancer.

00:18:57:10 - 00:18:59:14
And then when I was a medical student
was 12.

00:18:59:14 - 00:19:02:16
It's near dawn on 30 over 25 to 30%.

00:19:03:09 - 00:19:06:10
So what we want to make sure is that
that's one team, one fight

00:19:06:10 - 00:19:10:13
that partnering with you allows us to do
exactly what you said, Chris, and that is

00:19:10:14 - 00:19:15:18
be a team that ultimately wants
to make sure that the best of the science

00:19:15:18 - 00:19:20:12
is also made aware to folks
within our rural areas,

00:19:20:12 - 00:19:22:08
and that we work
with the rural health systems

00:19:22:08 - 00:19:23:10
in that to make sure

00:19:23:10 - 00:19:26:14
that people have the fighting chance
that the science is working for them, too.

00:19:27:11 - 00:19:30:11
Yep. And, you know,
and if I'm thinking about it,

00:19:30:21 - 00:19:35:13
I mean, that's all about care is
I want to know that I've got people

00:19:36:00 - 00:19:39:21
that are out there smarter than I am,
that are on my team

00:19:40:05 - 00:19:44:04
pushing for the best curable option
I have.

00:19:44:14 - 00:19:46:03
And that's what you care about, right?

00:19:46:03 - 00:19:47:13
And then you go attack it,

00:19:48:18 - 00:19:49:05
you know, and the

00:19:49:05 - 00:19:52:06
good Lord's benefit along with it,
you know what I'm saying?

00:19:52:07 - 00:19:54:01
Then, you know, that's.
What we're going to do.

00:19:54:01 - 00:19:58:10
So, I mean, I think this whole partnership
benefits us way

00:19:58:10 - 00:20:00:02
more than it benefits Massey.

00:20:00:02 - 00:20:04:09
Because now we can get the information
out to everyone

00:20:04:09 - 00:20:08:05
about how we can do it
and how they can have those options.

00:20:08:19 - 00:20:12:08
And any person out there
that has the option

00:20:12:08 - 00:20:16:05
and has a, a curable rate,
then it's a win win.

00:20:16:08 - 00:20:18:01
It's a win win for everybody involved.

00:20:18:01 - 00:20:20:07
And that's that's the reason
I love the partnership.

00:20:20:07 - 00:20:22:08
Man, listen I love that. I love that.

00:20:22:08 - 00:20:26:10
Now I know we hope we coming up on 
I think the last five minutes or so.

00:20:26:19 - 00:20:30:15
And so I don't know if you could, 
explain to us,

00:20:30:15 - 00:20:33:15
when you go to the racetrack,
what we're going to see.

00:20:33:16 - 00:20:37:04
But I am, 
this is a little bit of a podcast, so

00:20:37:08 - 00:20:40:04
we're going to need you to explain
as you're going through, because,

00:20:40:04 - 00:20:43:10
I can only tell you that when,
when I was on your racetrack...

00:20:43:15 - 00:20:47:14
You know, the only thing I was thinking
about is, is the seatbelt going to work?

00:20:47:20 - 00:20:48:06
I mean, the

00:20:48:06 - 00:20:51:11
the pure, you’re an experienced guy,
so you're going to do better than that.

00:20:52:18 - 00:20:54:04
that's that's Ronald Queen.

00:20:54:04 - 00:20:57:04
So we're going into the North
Wilkesboro Speedway.

00:20:57:24 - 00:21:01:12
So this is the famous North Wilkesboro
that just got put back

00:21:01:12 - 00:21:04:12
on the map
two years ago by a smart modified tour.

00:21:05:05 - 00:21:07:20
And we're getting ready
to do some hot laps.

00:21:07:20 - 00:21:09:22
So we're going to take a right.

00:21:09:22 - 00:21:12:05
And so you're actually on the racetrack.

00:21:12:05 - 00:21:17:07
This racetrack was built in the 40s, and

00:21:17:07 - 00:21:20:13
it was shut down for about 20 some years.

00:21:20:13 - 00:21:23:19
And then we resurrected it back
about three years ago.

00:21:24:17 - 00:21:27:17
Ryan Newman won the first race back.

00:21:27:21 - 00:21:30:18
The old scoreboard up there, that’s
a manual.

00:21:30:18 - 00:21:31:18
It's not electronic.

00:21:31:18 - 00:21:34:18
That's a manual scoreboard.

00:21:36:02 - 00:21:38:19
See, that thing is,
you barely can see him hanging off there.

00:21:38:19 - 00:21:40:15
Hanging off the side.

00:21:40:15 - 00:21:41:19
Oh, wow.

00:21:41:19 - 00:21:44:11
Yeah.
Say that. See him hanging right there?

00:21:44:11 - 00:21:45:12
I do.

00:21:45:12 - 00:21:48:11
I've not seen that, man
since I looked at some old films.

00:21:48:11 - 00:21:49:14
Yeah.

00:21:49:14 - 00:21:52:11
So this right
here is the turn four suites.

00:21:53:14 - 00:21:56:23
So this is when you get, you know,
you get in there and your high roller.

00:21:56:23 - 00:22:00:19
So you get, you get all your drinks
and your food and everything's

00:22:00:19 - 00:22:01:21
included in your ticket.

00:22:01:21 - 00:22:04:21
That's for the VIP's.

00:22:05:10 - 00:22:07:21
Well, now look,
when you, when you're going that way

00:22:07:21 - 00:22:10:05
the track you always
the bank is to the right.

00:22:10:05 - 00:22:13:09
So, you must get different
wears on your tires.

00:22:13:09 - 00:22:17:00
How, how do y’all, you know how y'all know
how to replace the tires?

00:22:17:05 - 00:22:21:05
Well, it's funny you say that,
because in all reality, the right sides

00:22:21:06 - 00:22:23:03
do wear out more than the left.

00:22:23:03 - 00:22:27:09
And so you, we had to put stagger
in the tire so the car will turn better.

00:22:27:22 - 00:22:29:17
You know, with the wear on the tires.

00:22:29:17 - 00:22:31:09
We'll get up here close to the wall.

00:22:31:09 - 00:22:33:13
We're going to get over here
right on the wall.

00:22:33:13 - 00:22:34:07
And that's what happened

00:22:34:07 - 00:22:37:18
when the last time I was there,
I was like, please, seatbelts go to work.

00:22:39:07 - 00:22:39:22
Yeah.

00:22:39:22 - 00:22:42:16
And so and so they run

00:22:42:16 - 00:22:46:04
downhill on the front stretch,
which we're on right now.

00:22:46:13 - 00:22:50:11
You can see how it runs uphill on the back
stretch right.

00:22:50:11 - 00:22:51:15
Yeah.

00:22:51:15 - 00:22:54:10
And so downhill they run 153.

00:22:54:10 - 00:22:57:10
On the backstretch they run 149.

00:22:57:18 - 00:22:59:08
Are we talking kilometers man.

00:22:59:08 - 00:23:00:06
Are we talking miles.

00:23:00:06 - 00:23:01:13
Because if you talk a miles, that's fine.

00:23:01:13 - 00:23:04:13
We're talking miles per hour.

00:23:05:11 - 00:23:06:14
Yeah.

00:23:06:14 - 00:23:09:14
So I'm going down pit road
because I'm trying to show them

00:23:09:14 - 00:23:11:02
where we're going to go.

00:23:11:02 - 00:23:14:02
I didn't know
they was ready to park already, so

00:23:14:08 - 00:23:17:02
I'm speeding up pit road.

00:23:17:02 - 00:23:20:02
Wow. So
all my cars are starting to come in.

00:23:20:09 - 00:23:23:05
And so

00:23:23:05 - 00:23:25:06
there we go.

00:23:25:06 - 00:23:29:00
It's pretty cool
to, know that you have team,

00:23:30:09 - 00:23:34:23
professional
that take care of this racetrack

00:23:34:23 - 00:23:39:03
the way or the race team
is the way that you would do

00:23:39:10 - 00:23:42:18
you know, the person
that's in need of cancer, right?

00:23:42:18 - 00:23:44:01
You got to treat them.

00:23:44:01 - 00:23:47:01
You got to make sure you give them
all the care that you can to protect them.

00:23:47:16 - 00:23:49:11
To protect him. Absolutely.

00:23:49:11 - 00:23:51:22
Just like you would take your drivers and,

00:23:51:22 - 00:23:54:18
you know,
and we project to protect the fans even.

00:23:54:18 - 00:23:55:05
Right.

00:23:55:05 - 00:23:58:21
So there's lots of safeguards and, and,
you know, what I love about

00:23:58:21 - 00:24:04:17
what you just said is that you can't
we can't do this, without hard work.

00:24:05:01 - 00:24:08:16
And they get a little
good luck from the man above to at least

00:24:08:23 - 00:24:09:21
a little guidance from them.

00:24:09:21 - 00:24:13:04
Because even though we're doctors,
you know, we always know that, you know,

00:24:13:04 - 00:24:16:06
we got everybody else
and a good man upstairs

00:24:16:06 - 00:24:18:05
actually helping us
make sure we take care of folks.

00:24:18:05 - 00:24:22:05
So now we will go for the last track
around, the last round.

00:24:22:05 - 00:24:22:14
I'm going to.

00:24:22:14 - 00:24:23:20
I'm going to run a fast lap.

00:24:23:20 - 00:24:26:17
I'm, I'm running 42 right now,
so we're going to pick it up.

00:24:26:17 - 00:24:29:21
All right, I'm up. I'm up to 50, 60,

00:24:30:21 - 00:24:33:21
70, 80.

00:24:34:13 - 00:24:37:13
Now, listen,

00:24:37:14 - 00:24:41:01
And, and that’s just in my Tahoe.

00:24:43:02 - 00:24:44:19
Yeah.

00:24:44:19 - 00:24:46:20
Oh my goodness. Yeah.

00:24:46:20 - 00:24:48:05
That's awesome man.

00:24:48:05 - 00:24:51:04
Well, listen, you know, listen,
thank you for...

00:24:51:04 - 00:24:54:07
listen it has been a blessing
and and a lesson,

00:24:54:18 - 00:25:00:04
and an honor for me, 
to be able to host you today, sir.

00:25:00:17 - 00:25:04:21
Well, it's an honor
for me to be associated with you, Dr.

00:25:04:21 - 00:25:06:22
Winn. I know what your passion is.

00:25:06:22 - 00:25:10:17
And I know how you got here
the same way I have, which is hard work.

00:25:10:17 - 00:25:14:00
But it's also a dedication
to something that you need to give,

00:25:14:14 - 00:25:17:14
you know, to the community
that you're working in.

00:25:18:01 - 00:25:21:15
And I know it's, 
it's it's going to be great a partnership.

00:25:21:15 - 00:25:25:03
And I can't wait to see the ride
that we're going to be on with this.

00:25:25:03 - 00:25:26:04
It's going to be fun.

00:25:26:04 - 00:25:28:12
And it's going to be fun. And one team,
one fight, man.

00:25:28:12 - 00:25:30:00
I appreciate again, Chris.

00:25:30:00 - 00:25:33:12
And, you know, you have a lifetime
fan of the modified racetrack.

00:25:33:13 - 00:25:34:07
That's me.

00:25:34:07 - 00:25:36:06
So, listen, I want to say thank you.

00:25:36:06 - 00:25:37:23
And, thank you for all the listeners.

00:25:37:23 - 00:25:40:07
And, again, not only one team, one fight.

00:25:40:07 - 00:25:42:24
This has been another episode
of Real Talk.

00:25:42:24 - 00:25:45:24
But the real talk here,
it's just been about real work

00:25:46:03 - 00:25:50:12
and about how partnerships,
and partners of the same mind

00:25:50:12 - 00:25:53:13
and the same heart can really do
good things to uplift our community.

00:25:53:13 - 00:25:54:20
So thank you for being with us.

00:25:54:20 - 00:25:56:16
And Chris, thanks again.

00:25:56:16 - 00:25:57:07
Thank you.

00:25:57:07 - 00:25:59:03
Appreciate y'all. Appreciate you that,