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Welcome back to Community Conversations.

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Black Health Wins, 24 hours
a day, seven days a week, 365.

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My very special guest is joining me
on the show.

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Doctor Robert Winn of the VCU Massey
Comprehensive Cancer Center.

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How you doing?

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A good and all that late last segment?

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Well, that was that was hot.

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Yeah, it was it was really hot.

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You know what? To be honest with you.

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You know what I want to do, though
that would be remiss.

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You know, giving a obviously a shout out
to Delegate McQuinn and Delegate Jones

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and Senator Stanley for,
you know, really keeping the visibility

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about cancer in the Commonwealth
and trying to do something about it.

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But I'm also going
to give you a shout out. Me?

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Not that you need one
but I'm gonna give you a shout out

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for not only the show, but everything else
that you do in making sure

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that you're keeping the health of folks
within the Commonwealth.

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Oh, good.

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Well thank you.

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I just want to just say appreciate you.

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Yeah. Thank you.

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It all goes together.

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I can have a dream of hope.

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And we can be cancer less or cancer free
or early diagnosis.

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But I have to have a real partnership
with the VCU Massey

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Comprehensive Cancer Center

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and, moreover, a relationship with you
because you understand it firsthand.

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And whenever you think about cancer,

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you always say,
oh my God, I'm not listening to this show.

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We were like, look,
we got some preventive for you,

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some treatables for you,
and also some cures for you.

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So now we're going to talk.

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This is National
Cervical Cancer Awareness Month.

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And we're going to give you
a little stats.

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You know what sister Clo,
you just explained Ashford & Simpson.

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What does? Solid as a Rock, girl. Solid.

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Solid as a Rock. Ashford & Simpson.

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Come on now.

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Oh my goodness.

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Well we've got to talk about HPV
during this cervical cancer month.

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HPV is a common
sexually transmitted infection

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spread through intimate skin
to skin contact.

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HPV infections are very common.

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Most people who are not vaccinated
get HPV at some point in their lives.

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More than 42 million
Americans are infected

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with types of HPV
that are known to cause disease.

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About 13 million Americans, including

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teens, become infected each year.

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Now, Doctor Robert Winn,
we put those stats out there.

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But there is a way that we can save lives.

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Talk about it.

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Yeah, so so

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let's get back down
to the human papillomavirus.

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So it causes two types of cancers.

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One, it causes head neck cancer.

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And in fact, you know,
we have many athletes and coaches

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and stars and other people like that.

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When you think of head, neck cancer,

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one of the cause of head and neck
cancers, HPV.

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There are obviously other causes.

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But HPV also causes cervical cancers.

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Now the interesting thing
about the cervical cancer

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is that it's
Cervical Cancer Awareness Month.

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So let's talk
a little bit about cervical cancer.

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And then we're going to talk a little bit
about HPV.

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But, here's what is true.

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That over the 10 million
plus people that will die globally,

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we shouldn't have a single death
from cervical cancer.

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And if you look at those data
in the United States and globally,

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one of the most startling numbers

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is that we still have people dying, women

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dying from a cancer

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that is absolutely preventable.

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And absolutely

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screenable and absolutely treatable.

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So I think that, you know,
you know, that one of the things

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I want to bring our awareness
within the Commonwealth, and particularly

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within the African-American community, is
if you look at the groups that tend to do

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more poorly,
they're poor, rural and African-American.

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So the truth of the matter is, we have
a cancer that we know how to treat,

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that we know how to screen for.

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And by the way, that we can prevent by
just giving you the HPV vaccines,

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you know, as a,
you know, when you're when you're a kid

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and we have all of those things.

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And yet despite that, we still have

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women in the United States
and, and globally

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still dying from a cancer,
if this, you know.

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So for me, this is a really important
month of awareness.

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As many of the other cancers,
because we're now talking about a cancer

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that young women and women

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will get that they're,
that they are needlessly in.

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I mean, they're needlessly dying
from a cancer that you could get

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screened for and you can treat
so that's kind of where we are right now.

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But I will say that the science
is continuing to move forward,

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do some really cool things, like,
you know, going to the doctor.

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Now look, everybody sometimes...

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Ooh, Going to the doctor.
Don't like going to the doctor.

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They do it the basically like we all

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scared. No, we aint scary.

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We may not be the,
you know, the the most sociable.

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We ain't scary, but the fact that women
don't go to their doctors is an issue.

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And the fact of the matter is
that we're still talking about,

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you know, whether sometimes the vaccines
that we give or the treatments

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that we give to prevent HPV from happening
anyways, with your kids

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is going to cause them
to be more sexual permiscuous, is crazy.

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But but that's still out there.

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And I think in some instances when we're
talking about the younger generation

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and we're talking about women under
the age of 40 women in their, their 20s

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and also teens contracting this HPV

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because I think in some instances too,

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once a teen turn turns 18 years old,
they feel

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they don't have to go to the doctor
anymore.

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And that's not true.

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We're totally not true.

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In fact, I would tell you right now
the fact the group that actually we're

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the most concerned about, in the US right
now, are your 19 to 40 year

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old, oh, 19, the under 40 year old
that is the fastest group

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that is getting cancer
and having poor outcomes.

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And so the days of thinking about.

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Yeah, you know, I'm 18, I'm 19,
I'm 20, man.

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You know, we always used to say cancer

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is, a disease of the aged
and the old people.

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And the truth of the matter is.

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That's absolutely right.

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Cancer is still predominantly,
it will impact you

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as you age 50, 60, 70 to beyond.

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But the crazy thing is, right now

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in 2025, and we started
seeing these trends in 2022, 2023,

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the fastest growing group of people,

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groups of people getting cancer
are the under 40.

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And so that 19 to 40 year old group
is what we're really concerned about.

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We don't have an idea,
at least not at the moment.

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That's, you know, really circulating.

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We are some ideas
kind of happening here and there.

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But as a, as a whole,
we're still trying to investigate

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what it is.

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We're trying to see
why it's happening in young people.

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So can you imagine a 19 to 4 year old
thinking like cancer is going to get them.

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And by the time you 23, you done

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that and one of the cancers
is freaking cervical cancer.

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And by the way, head and neck cancer,
which men get too.

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So it ain't just women
getting HPV infections

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and then getting cervical cancers.

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HPV infection
can also affect your your head neck

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which means your throat area.

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And that can affect men.

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And so this whole concept that

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that we don't do HPV, you know

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prevention when you're in your,
you know, when you're a kid

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for both men and, you know, you for both
boys and girls seems almost insane.

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I just don't get it.

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And Doctor

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Wynn, as a lung doctor and professionally
it's called pulmonologist.

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When you see the younger generation
coming in to see you for a visit

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and you ask when maybe,
God forbid, the cancer progresses.

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Do you ever ask what was the reason?

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I know you had the symptoms.

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Why you didn't go to the doctor.

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Do you ever ask them that?

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Yeah.
Is that even that? Even young people.

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I mean, they come in three favors.

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I was feeling okay.

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I'm like So we usually answer that

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one...I go, how you know when you I go
you got a remote control for everybody.

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Got a remote control.

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What if you got
a remote control on your TV

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and you're like oh yeah I got one.
How do you know when the battery is dead?

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How do you check your battery.

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They don't know how
you know when its dead?

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Well when it aint working no more.

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I say, that's like you.

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So quit
telling me about how you feel fine.

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Your batteries could be on 30%.

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You 25% on his last leg.

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And you still using that remote, right?

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Thinking this is about the worst, right?

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Because you haven't checked.

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That's the same with our health.

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In fact, whether you 18, 19 or

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68 or 69 or 70,
we all have the same problem

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that sometimes we just blow off
our checkups, we just forget about them.

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And so that's a common thing.

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The other one is I'm afraid of needles.

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Now, I would be okay with with all.

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With all the people with tattoos.

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Come on,

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coming in all tatted up, don’t
play with me, just stop that.

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I mean, do you look like you
looking at Boo-Boo the Clown?

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Come on, stop talking all that craziness.

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But I think what happens
is that we now have an era

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that it's harder for people
to actually have trust, because they have

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all this disinformation and misinformation

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that leads to low trust or no trust.

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One of the reasons
why I appreciate your show is,

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you know, that we totally transparent.

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This is what it is.

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You don't like it,
you don't like it, but this is what it is.

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And the way that you put this out there
for people to understand,

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and making it accessible,

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that ain't nobody trying to get all into
the Jedi trick mind, you know.

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Mind trickeration. This is just
it is what it is.

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The science is not arguable
that as a result of the science,

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over the last x number of years,
we have been able to save more lives.

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You can say what you want to.

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You can go to

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Doctor Tik Tok, Doctor Google and
all the other fear-mongering tells to you.

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But the truth
there are some things that are true.

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And the truth is the data will back it up
that as a result of the science

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and the result,
the development of new miracle molecules

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like quick treatments
for HIV, miracle molecules

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going to become medicines for lung cancer
and other things.

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We have absolutely saved more lives.

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And so for the first time in history,

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more people are living with cancer
than dying from it.

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Except for we got to keep our eyes
on some of these groups,

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like these young people,
because those numbers are alarming.

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The number of young people
now getting cancer is just crazy.

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Stay close.

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And I know everybody wants to hear more.

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We'll be back right after this.

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This is community conversations.

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I am Miss Community Clovia.

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Keeping it all things community.

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By way of Community Conversations
and Black Health Wins.

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Now, my special guests

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that are joining me on this show
in this month of January is Delegate

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Delores McQuinn, representing us
in Virginia's General Assembly currently.

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Thank you so much for jumping on the call
today.

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Delegate McQuinn, how are you?

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I am wonderful,
Miss Clo, Miss Community Clo.

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And thank you for inviting me
to be, on this call,

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on this conversation with some very,
very special individuals, including you.

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Oh, oh, oh, including me.

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I thought it was me. But anyway,

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I know I'm your constituent.

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Let's keep it.

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Let's not get it twisted.

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We have Doctor Robert Winn, director

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and pulmonologist over at VCU Massey
Comprehensive Cancer Center.

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Doctor Winn, how are you doing?

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Hey, listen, with both of y'all,
I am doing like y'all.

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I'll be good.

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And the one thing that we love
about delegate Delores McQuinn.

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And I'm not just saying this because,
you know, I'm.

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She's my delegate, but the work
that she does with all things health.

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But today,
we're talking about your cancer caucus.

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And all of your members in the strides
and how you're pushing at Virginia's

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General Assembly for us.

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So talk to our listeners about the cancer
caucus here in the Commonwealth.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Miss Clo and Doctor Winn.

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Good morning to you, sir.

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You know what?

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The Cancer caucus, actually,
and I don't know if the listeners know,

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but I am a breast cancer survivor
now, 31 years, and they.

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After
I was found myself facing and challenged

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by cancer,
I decided that my life would spin.

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I would dedicate my life to making certain
that I am making my community

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and the communities at large aware of the,
cancer,

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the impact of cancer on families
and community and individual.

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But not only that, the fact that we have,

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opportunities to understand

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better what cancer is
and how it affects us.

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And so, ten, 11 years ago, actually,
I started the cancer caucus,

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with, another, Senator Ruff,

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who was actually a, a dem,
a Republican senator,

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and the two of us came together to address
this issue.

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Unfortunately,
we lost him this year to cancer,

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and, but we we started this
so that we could make,

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individuals and help people to understand

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that, cancer treatment, cancer
prevention, cancer research.

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There are leading, institutions
in Virginia

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that look at these various cancers
that we are impacted by,

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and they are working towards
not just healing,

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not just making certain
that we are being treated,

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but they are people who are trying
to make certain that we are staying alive.

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And so I wanted to Senator William Stanley

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is, along with, Delegate Mike Jones,

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helping me to chair the cancer caucus.

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And we have it every year.

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This is an annual event
at the General Assembly.

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So, again, that we could bring to focus
to the General Assembly all of the latest

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cancer treatments and prevention
that's going on in the Commonwealth.

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And so that is what the Cancer
Caucus is all about.

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Bringing everyone to the table.

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Let's be aware,
let's become educated about this

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and do as much as we can
to make sure that we,

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we are aware, but also sharing it
publicly, the information.

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Delegate McQuinn. Can I brag on...
Go ahead.

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Can I brag on Delegate McQuinn real quick?

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Brag on her just real quick that she could
she could put a hand over her ears

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if she would like.

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But, you know, again,
when I first met, Delegate McQuinn,

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it was really around this center
of focusing and bringing people together

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as a result over these last four years.

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I would say we have more participation now
from all of our academic medical centers

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and all of our health systems,
because she and,

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Senator Ruff who was a great guy as well.

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Continue
to be consistent with drumming the beat.

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She aint gonna brag on herself.

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But I’m gonna brag on her that, you know,
they've been able to as a result of this

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cancer caucus rally around some of the
right things, like getting people

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better screened in the state, 
doing better things than knowing I

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won't
say, but I will say that I have been

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honored, blessed, and privileged
to be a part of that caucus.

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And and what, Delegate Jones and,
Senator Stanley are here doing.

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It is crazy when you talk about

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bringing all these people together,
UVA, VCU, and everybody else together.

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They can do it.

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And so I just want to say, I appreciate
you for what you and Cancer caucus.

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It's been very powerful for the state.

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And this is something. Thank you.

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Thank you, Doctor Winn.

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But but, and it's another thing,
Clo and I need to say this, please.

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You know, we are,
but we are the legislators.

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You know, the Senate and the House.

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And we
it is bringing this information to them.

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They don't have to go out
to see what's happening.

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Let's bring the information
to the General Assembly, to the Capitol.

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And then we understand that
the only way we become leading,

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and this Commonwealth, in this nation
is to make certain

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that we are providing the funds,
appropriating the funds

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to get the research done,
to address the prevention.

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And all of us have been touched by cancer
and one way or the other,

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and we can make a big difference again,
by funding,

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many of these initiatives
that will be about saving lives.

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And you covered the full scope
of the community.

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You are saying the Cancer Caucus
when it comes to the research

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and cures,
but families, communities and individuals

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and it will affect someone if not you,
someone you love within our lifetime.

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Yes. Yes.

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And and I'm, it is, it is,
you know it used to be the see,

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I used to say that it was a death
sentence.

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It didn't have to be a death sentence
any longer.

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And thanks to Doctor Winn. Yes.

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And, and and VCU
and what they're doing over there,

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I mean we have again is a multi-plicity
of institutions or groups

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who are focused on this,
but right here in the Richmond region

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and in your listening audience,
we have some of the best here.

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And Doctor Winn
it is just an honor to have him,

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you know, working and keeping us informed
and helping us

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to understand what the groundwork is
and how we approach it

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and how we move again
to make the community aware,

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of the many, preventions
and treatments out there

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and what ultimately leads
to a better quality of life.

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Delegate McQuinn, you

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said it definitely,
because it used to be cancer.

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Was that death sentence. Yes.

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And it's not now because of the research
and I'm going to throw in another C-word,

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okay.

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And that's clinical trials. Yes.

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Yes. Doctor Winn.

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Listen, you know,

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we're finally starting to actually
understand that clinical trials.

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I wish it were named differently,
but it really is, an extension.

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Okay.

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I've told everyone that
when you have reached

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the end of the standard of care
and there is nowhere else to turn,

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it turns out that many of the women
are living 20 and 30 years longer.

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You know, people with breast, I mean, lung
cancer who were given up for dead

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are now actually, you know,
playing with the kids 10, 12 years later

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because we found out something in a trial
that was actually immediately

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beneficial to them during the trial
or beneficial to someone else.

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So I love trials
because I always say that there's hope.

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There's either a hope for you

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being on that trial, in that trial,
or there's hope for somebody else.

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And by the way,

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I just want to get one myth cleared up,
that it turns out that even if you own

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a trial and you don't get the,
quote, experimental drug.

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Not, not Dr.

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Winn saying it in the literature
over the last 15 years.

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We can document
that people were part of trials.

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Even when you don't
get the experimental drug,

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you actually live longer
and have a better outcome.

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You know why?

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Because you are getting
the standard of care.

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Oh yeah.

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So that's the whole concept

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about bringing our community,
particularly African-American.

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We're still living in the
in in the context of the poor

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outcomes from cancer deaths,
there are two communities,

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I would say, you know, our
our African-American community.

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And by the way, our rural communities

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are still lagging behind
from the benefits of the science.

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And that's what we're trying to do,
bring the science to the community.

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And I think another benefit that
that I want to say, certainly,

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Doctor Winn and Miss Clo, 
Miss Community Clo, is that we are,

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the clinical trial, 
about helping someone else.

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Let's let's start here and let's see
if we can help the next generation. Yes.

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You know, and sometimes people.

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Why do I want to be that sacrifice?

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That is the only way that we perfect
the product, you know,

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in terms of treatment,
in terms of prevention,

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if these clinical trials come about
and we get involved and,

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and especially the African-American
community so that we are able

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to help someone else, we're able
to help the next generation in our family,

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because a lot of times, genetically,
you know, these cancers impact you

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and so we want to be able to help the next
generation, help, you know, communities,

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by being involved and engaged
and being a part of these clinical trials.

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So, please,

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you know, Doctor Winn has said it, it
basically and, and and I just encourage us

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to make certain that we step up
and to be a part of these clinical trials.

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Wow, step up and be a part as a cancer
survivor. It's

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been over 30 years for you and and Mike
Jones, he's a cancer survivor as well.

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Yeah. Delegate Mike Jones.

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So to come together

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to help save someone's lives
I think it is so wonderful what you doing.

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And not only talking about it impacting it

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by getting laws changed, down
at Virginia's General Assembly.

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I know you gotta head off to another
caucus meeting or committee meeting,

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and we're going to take a break
and come on back.

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This is Community Conversations.

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I am Community Clo.

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Welcome back to Community Conversations,
the Black Health Wins podcast.

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I am Community Clo with my special guest,
Doctor Robert Winn.

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He's a researcher, a scientist,
a pulmonologist

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over at the VCU Massey
Comprehensive Cancer Center.

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Hey, Doctor Winn, you ready to wrap
it almost up?

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Ready? Ready?
Ready. Like Rocksteady. Ready?

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So this is cervical cancer awareness
month.

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We talked about HPV.

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We talk about testing,
but let's talk about some prevention.

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Yeah.

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So first of all, I don't think
people are like what I'm gonna say.

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But part of prevention is actually
understanding that if you are and people

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are going to have sex, that's that's what
it is, they're going to have intercourse.

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You know, the reality is protect yourself.

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And for all people, I mean, wearing
whether it's wearing a condom,

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whether it's doing whatever that, that
prevention, we don't usually talk about.

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But we ought to talk about that.

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The second thing is,
I do think very much so

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that the reality is
that it still remains true

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that the HPV vaccine will not

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protect you, by the way, from other STIs

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sexually transmitted, you know, sort of,
you know, you know, you know, illnesses.

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It just won't.

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But what the HPV vaccine will do

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is protect
you from getting cervical cancer.

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So I was going to say that
even if you get HPV vaccine,

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it don't mean that
you can get your freak on, and then ain’t

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nothing else going to happen to you,
you you Superwoman or Superman.

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That ain’t what I'm trying to say?

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But what I am saying
is that the HPV vaccine readily available,

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you can talk to your primary care doctor
or your OB, your OBGYN doc about it,

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but the HPV vaccine in particular, given

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those, medicines when they're,
you know, young, I mean, boys and girls

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that to detect them,
I mean, that could protect your kids

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before they are even sexually active
could really save lives.

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And so, you know, the good news is
we have, things to prevent.

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And, and if you were to get cancer,
cervical cancer.

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We know that there's

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lots of things that we actually have
to treat in addition of local surgeries

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all the way to actually having,
you know, medicines to give.

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So we're in a different place.

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It's it's sad to say that we're still
talking that cervical cancer kills people

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because it makes no sense
because we can prevent it.

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We can screen for it and we can treat it.

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And people still die from it,
and people who are dying from it.

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I have to be straight up honest.

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It's because they're not usually seeking
medical care in a timely fashion.

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And we have to get those checkups.

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And some folks,

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you have your personal insurance
and some folks have Medicaid

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and or Medicare, but you have to go see
the doctor who likes to go to the doctor.

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I don't like to go get a physical.

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I’m a doctor
and I don’t like to see myself.

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But I

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think but there's definitely things
we have to do.

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And by the way,
you know, the traditional way

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with most women of getting the pap smear,
actually, when you talk to most people,

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I'm not saying that
that's the most comfortable thing,

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but getting the pap smear is actually,
of course, by the way,

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I need to actually do some heads up
that there is an emerging sort of,

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screening thing that we that
hopefully will get to most people soon,

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and that is having women
be able to do self swabs and so.

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Self swabs in the home?

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The privacy at home
in the privacy of your own.

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Use the kit.

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Send the kit in
and we're able to do sort of diagnosis.

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So we're hoping that there will be more
women across the United States and others

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who will inquire
at least about self swabbing.

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What are the benefits?

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What are the what about,
you know, things that you that you lose

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by doing self- Swabs self-swab
as opposed to going through the doctor.

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But hear me out.

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We're making it
so hopefully that it becomes so easy

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that we can actually one day say that
no woman has died from cervical cancer.

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And we're talking about cervical cancer
in this, this new,

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test that you can do it at home, right?

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It's not really a pap.

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You just whatever the kit does.

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But it's also the same thing when it comes
to, a colonoscopy.

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You can do the cologuard and any other
testing at home and send it in too.

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The science is the science.

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But to be honest with you,

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you can't get a cologuard test
or self-swab without science.

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So this craziness that science is
sometimes evil is crazy.

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In fact, I'm talking about you,
your phone that everybody's holding on

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that didn't come
because it fell from the sky.

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That fell because it came from research,
from somebody's laboratory engineering

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laboratory that allowed us to understand
how to actually use these things.

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So quit talking about,

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you know, the deep state of research,
there ain’t no deep state.

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You heard it from Doctor
Robert Winn, who's a scientist,

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and you probably sitting in the lab right
now concocting something

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so we can make

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life better 24 ways to tomorrow
to try to make things better.

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That's all.

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In fact, I was tripping, In fact
I was tripping because the test was.

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I mean, this is good.

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We've got a at home HPV test.

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I was like, man,
I should have thought of that. Wow.

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At home test.

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A swab This is crazy.

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But Doctor Robert Winn,
thank you so much for all you do.

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As you sit in that lab

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and you're looking at the science,
you're doing the research

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and you deliver it right to us,
of course, to your medical board.

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But then you deliver it to the community.

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And at this point in our lives,
when it comes to cancer,

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we have no reason to die.

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And we're going to help it all the way.

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Zero.

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Zero reasons to die.

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Zero reasons.

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Doctor Robert Winn is the director at the
VCU Massey Comprehensive Cancer Center.

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That's how we're going to help
that all the way up.

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This has been Community Conversations
and I am Community Clo.

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