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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to violence. Hey

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there and welcome to Pop Rocks Radio. As always,

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I am your host Bijan. Can it really be true that

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summer is nearly over? Let's go out with a bang,

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shall we? To start things off for us today, we

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have the new single from Boston's The Chelsea

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Curve. This is Never Come Down. That was Seattle's

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own Fastbacks with My Letters off 1992's The

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Question Is No. I know there's a dad joke in

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there somewhere. I just can't bring myself to

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say it. All righty then. Welcome to Pop Rocks

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Radio. Did you catch the show last week? As I'm

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hoping the answer is yes, then this is not news

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to you. I did what only could be called an inadequate

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overview of the 1982 film Ladies and Gentlemen.

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Fabulous Stains, a film about teenage girls starting

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a punk band and starting a movement. I am hoping

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to redeem myself this week with a film that came

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out two years before that about teenage girls

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starting a punk band. This week's film is 1980s

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Times Square. But before we get to that, let's

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kick off our first set with another one from

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Seattle. Didn't really plan it that way. From

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the album Dashboard Heat, releasing in late September,

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this is Smokey Brights with All In Who You Know.

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That was the artist PONY from Toronto

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with her version of the Adam Sandler classic

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Somebody Kill Me Please from the 1998 film The

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Wedding Singer. Before that, we had Shannon and

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the Clams with the title track from their latest

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The Moon is in the Wrong Place. You know, I didn't

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set out to play that track from PONY. I just

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got a little sidetracked and couldn't resist.

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You know what? Let's do the one I had planned

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originally for the show. This is from 2021's

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TV Baby. This is PONY with Chokecherry. Two

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years before Ladies and Gentlemen, The Fabulous

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Stains, Robert Stigwood brought to the screen

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a gritty tale of two young women chasing punk

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dreams in the heart of sleazy New York City.

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Our Tuesday Movie of the Week on Wednesday is

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1980's Times Square. Directed by Allan Moyle,

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who a decade later would helm the excellent Pump

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Up the Volume, the film captures a moment when

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the city was still raw, chaotic, and defiantly

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alive. Before America became a cartoon version

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of itself, New York reflected the country as

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it truly was. Not a polished postcard, but something

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messy, seedy, dangerous, and utterly electric.

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The push to sanitize the city didn't kick into

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high gear until the 1990s, but Times Square plants

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us right in that transitional moment, following

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two girls who discover themselves in the very

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filth that Pamela Pearl's city councilman father

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wants to wash away. Pamela, played by Trini Alvarado,

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comes from privilege, and Nicky Marotta, played

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by Robin Johnson, comes from pain. They meet

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in a mental hospital, their caretakers trying

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to medicate them into compliance. But where society

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sees misfits, the girls find each other. And

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their escape becomes the stuff of urban legend.

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Hovering above it all is Tim Curry as a DJ with

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a bird's eye view of Times Square. He recognizes

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the magic of the city's pulse and turns the girls

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into folk heroes, amplifying their rebellion

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and mocking Pamela's father's crusade. Together,

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Pamela and Nicky become the Sleez Sisters. Their

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music isn't polished or radio -friendly. It's

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jagged poetry screamed with fists in the air.

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Nicky's howl is part diary entry, part street

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sermon. Pamela's awkward lyrics transform into

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affirmations for every girl who's ever felt invisible.

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Pamela's story, however, isn't just about rebellion

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for rebellion's sake. It's about finding her

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voice. Once she does, she's strong enough to

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return home, ready to face the world on her own

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terms. For Nicky, though, there is no going home.

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The streets, the grind, the chaos, this is her

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world. And surviving it has always been the point.

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Get out of here! This is my place! You all need

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visiting! Out! Yet even for Nicky, survival turns

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into transformation. Through the music, she discovers

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her voice too, becoming the version of herself

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she had always dreamed of. Loud, defiant, and

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impossible to ignore. You know a lot of things.

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I only know one thing. is that they're going

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to see who I am. The story builds to its mythical

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ending. Nicky defiant and unbreakable performing

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in the middle of Times Square to an army of women

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and girls she has inspired. This is Nicky Marotta,

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famous murderer and entertainer. I'm throwing

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a concert tonight in Times Square to celebrate

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my escape from mental illness. Don't miss it.

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It isn't just a concert, it's a... takeover.

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Even the social worker who once wanted her institutionalized

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stands in the crowd cheering. In that moment,

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Nicky's voice belongs to all of them. The soundtrack

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alone is worth the price of admission. Ramones,

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Talking Heads, The Cars, Suzi Cuatro, The Pretenders,

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Roxy Music, Gary Newman, the greatest hits of

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the late 70s, early 80s underground. Now the

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film isn't flawless. Studio meddling softened

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the love story and left the pacing uneven. But

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its heart beats true. Watching Pamela dance on

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stage for the first time, hesitant and blooming

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into pure joy and abandon, I found myself quietly

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mouthing, yes. Few films let you witness a character

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grow in real time. Times Square is really a fairy

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tale. Fairy tale of the gutter. A world where

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pimps and pushers become cheerleaders instead

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of predators. Where a 13 -year -old can demand

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a job in a topless bar and somehow get away with

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it. It's messy, completely implausible, uneven,

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but also deeply moving. Because Times Square

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isn't just a backdrop. It's the amplifier that

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turns Nicky's pain into poetry, her poetry into

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music, and her music into a revolution of voices

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that refuse to be silenced. Times Square is available

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for rent on all the streamers and currently for

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free on Tubi. If you don't Tubi, you really should

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Tubi. of course, was the band Starball, fronted

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by our Featured Artist of the Week, Tamar Berk.

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I went back and checked, and over the course

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of doing this show, I have played more Tamar

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Berk songs than any other artist. Tamar writes

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songs that feel like the inside of a restless

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mind. Honest, jagged, and melodic in all the

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right places. From her early days in Chicago

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bands like Starball to carving out a solo career

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where she does it all, She writes, she records,

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and produces tracks that blend raw guitars with

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sharp hooks and a surprising emotional depth.

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I guess I play her songs so much because they

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don't float by, they stick. They capture the

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small truths you whisper to yourself at 3 a .m.,

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then crank them through amps until they're undeniable.

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Whether she's looking back on home, cataloging

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anxiety, or chasing joy in the middle of chaos,

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Tamar turns ordinary feelings into anthems. Okay,

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enough of my nonsense. Let's get to the music.

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Depending on where you look, this next song is

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either credited to Starball or Tamar Berk's

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solo. For sure, it's on Starball's 2001 release

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Superfans, but one thing is unmistakable. This

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is her sound stepping forward and starting to

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shine. This is Over and Done. Forget it. meditating

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from 2021's The Restless Dreams of Youth. Since

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releasing that first official solo album, Tamar

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has been on an unbelievable creative tear, releasing

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albums every year since. This next one is from

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2022's Start at the End. This is the first album

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that fell on my radar from her, and it's one

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that I go back to quite often. You can feel her

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not only finding her voice, but really being

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unafraid to use it. This one I particularly like.

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It's emotionally resonant and just so goddamn

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catchy. This is Dandelions in My Flower Bed.

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That was Chicago from last year's Good Times

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for a Change. With that album, it felt less like

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searching and more like arriving. Every lyric

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feels more grounded, more certain, and every

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chorus hits with the kind of hook you just can't

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shake. I don't do a top ten list of albums I

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love over the course of a year, but if I did,

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this one would have been on it for last year

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for sure. That brings us to her latest release,

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OCD. I've had this one on repeat since the moment

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I started listening to it, and it feels like

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her most assured work yet. Every track blends

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her trademark raw honesty and melodies that stick,

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creating an album that feels both intimate and

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undeniable. Just love this next one. This is

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I'm In The Day After. You can pick up OCD and

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all of her discography from her website, tamarburkemusic

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.com, and also from Bandcamp. I will put a link

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to those in the show notes. And if you're in

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the Chicago area, she has a gig at Schuba's on

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September 27th, so go check that out. Show some

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love, and don't forget to buy some merch as well.

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If you love what you hear, support what you love.

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And that is it for our featured artists this

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week. If there is someone you would like to see

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us feature on the show, drop me a note at bijan,

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that's B -I -J -A -N, at poprocksradio.com.

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Is that all that you've got to say to me? Yeah.

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Is that all you've got to tell me? Those last

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two tracks I heard about through the awesome

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blog Remember the Lightning by S .W. Lauden.

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The first track was The Cords from Glasgow with

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their latest single, Fabulist. After that, we

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had the artist Radhika, also from Glasgow, with

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Future Me from last year. I've talked about it

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on the show before, so if you haven't already

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subscribed to his blog, go do it now. It's okay.

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I'll wait. Okay, done? Alright. on with the show.

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You realize Hitler only had one ball? What do

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you think about a man with one ball? You think

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he has two strikes against him? Maybe he's got

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one ball and two strikes. Hitler only had one

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ball. A lot of people don't know that. A lot

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of people don't know that. They say, Hitler,

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geez, he had a lot of balls. More to come here

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on Pop Rocks Radio, but first, a word from our

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sponsor. But since we don't have a sponsor, it's

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really just a word. Hey, this is Bijan from Pop

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Rocks Radio. We normally don't do politics here,

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so I will keep this short. In America, we don't

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do kings. If you agree with this statement, head

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on over to Indivisible.org and help support

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the good work they're doing. If you don't agree

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with that statement, you can't see it, but I'm

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giving you... quite the stare down right now

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told you this was the last time you'd cross my

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boundary line oh no there you go the anti -groupies

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from long beach california with their latest

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single not my problem they released their first

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single back in 2022 not my problem is the third

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single from their upcoming album to be announced

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soon i believe sir that the doctor is trying

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to tell you that he is happy because he has finished

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his book it has apparently taken him 10 years

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yes well i'm a slow reader myself okay time for

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one more set let's kick this off with a clash

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cover You know, Joe Strummer passed away in

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2002. Can't believe it's been that long now.

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This is a great tribute to that groundbreaking

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band. This is the Hellflowers with Spanish Bombs.

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We closed out that set with Momma with I Want

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You Fever from their latest album, Welcome to

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My Blue Sky. They are currently out on tour,

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so check them out if they come to your town.

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Before that, we had Hunx and His Punx with

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the track Wild Boys from their latest release,

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Walk Out on This World. And with that, we have

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come to the end of another episode of Pop Rocks

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Radio. If you like what we're doing here, please

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like, subscribe, and check us out on YouTube

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and wherever else you waste your time online.

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This is Milwaukee's Finest, the Shivvers with

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Remember Tonight. And this is Bijan from Pop

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Rocks Radio. Thanks for listening. Be good, be

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weird, and we'll see you next time.
