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Today, we're talking flying in circles, collecting

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idia, and androgynous jesters, it's nights into

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dreams for the Sega Saturn. Hello everyone, welcome

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to Retro Gaming Beyond Presents Retro Game Club.

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We're your hosts, Joe, Eric, Ryan, and Jacob

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Vanderloski. And we've been having scary dreams,

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because we've been playing Nights into Dreams

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Word of the Nerd. Get those nerds! Nerds! Nerds!

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Alright, we enjoy all things with nerds. Video

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games, TV shows, comic books, movies, music,

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food. So let's go ahead and discuss what other

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things we've been into recently. What have you

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guys been up to? I've been doing a lot. I bought

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that book and learning Latin. I've been loving

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it so far, dude. I haven't really gotten too

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much into it as much as I'd like to. And then

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I spent like the past week Looking for new speakers

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because mine are going to shit now. Dude, those

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LG ones you have? Yeah, they're Logitech. I think

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they're the Z506s or something. They're yours,

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but just like the cheaper version. Yeah, dude,

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this surround sound isn't my best money I've

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ever spent. Yeah, I was looking at it, and I

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was like, oh, fuck, it's like $450. Yeah, dude,

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I've had them for how long now? I've never had

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a single problem with them, and they're still

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going strong. Yeah, true. Well, I mean, I just

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bought speakers today, but like I said, I was

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looking for a week. The amp in my sub is going

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out, so it plays... volume really weird yeah

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yeah if if the cable's not on it right it's a

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bitch to get right it'll get either really quiet

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or it'll be like max volume and just insanely

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loud so are you using digital audio no you said

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it doesn't have it no it doesn't okay it's just

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i have the three surround sound yeah yeah speaker

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wires going into my motherboard but yep it's

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whatever like i said bro it's like what 150 bucks

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back in the day it was cheap yeah and they've

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lasted this long i mean they sound decent for

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i mean they're okayish yeah for them being cheap

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and everything but yeah i'm just i'm gonna i'm

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just gonna go to stereo i'm gonna go to 20 for

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now yeah um i bought they're called cantos canto

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aura fours yeah um i've heard they're really

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good and i got them 100 bucks off so that's nice

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yeah They're like $450. I got them for $350.

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Nice. So I heard they're really good. And then

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next purchase is going to be a sub. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. Because I got to have that. There's no

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way I'm not going to have a sub. Oh, yeah, dude.

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It makes all the difference. Yeah, absolutely.

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But apparently these 4x4s are actually pretty

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good with bass. So that took me a whole week

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to figure out what the fuck I wanted. The internet's

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just so hard sometimes. It's like, oh, well,

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these are great. And then someone's like, oh,

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these fucking suck. They sound awful. Yeah, that's

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everything. Everything's just bots. Everybody's

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like, oh, these are the best things I've ever

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heard of. And then somebody's like, I'd rather

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shit in the bag and smack it against my ears

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and hear that instead. It's just, you can just

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never win. It's all just bots talking to each

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other nowadays. Yeah, pretty much. Or everybody's

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just too fucking stupid, Evan. intellectual conversation

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or just a bunch of Russians trying to stir up

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American politics for yeah for audiophile reddit

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posts yeah they're like I think these are the

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ones that Epstein bought yeah he's around the

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island or anytime you get into like You want

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to get into something serious, you're going to

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go down a fucking rabbit hole. Dude, it just

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involves anybody's opinions. It's a fucking shit

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show. It just doesn't matter. It doesn't matter

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what it is, dude. Everybody's got an opinion

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on anything. I know. You've got to be able to

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weed out what you think is noteworthy. For sure.

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And I'd say we're pretty good at that. That's

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why I was looking for like a week. A week's actually

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pretty short for buying something like that.

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So just watch out for those EM dashes. Yeah,

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the AI used to, I don't know if it still does,

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but it used to be pretty heavy on the EM dashes.

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That was one of the ways to tell if something

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was written by EM. Oh, okay. That makes sense.

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Anyway, what else? Yeah, I mean, that's pretty

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much it. I wouldn't say we're, I would say we're

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audiophiles, but not like... I'm huge. Hard,

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hardcore, I guess. I'm definitely hardcore. Yeah.

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I would be if I had the money for it. Yeah. Yeah.

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I would absolutely spend like 10 grand on speakers

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if I could. Mm -hmm. i know i want to get a um

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like a digital audio player yeah stuff yeah i

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do too that's what i was looking at too but god

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fucking damn it oh that's oh then you're talking

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about it bro yeah and like iems and shit oh man

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dude they're insane yeah it's just getting sick

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but some a lot of people are like oh well you

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won't be able to tell the difference you know

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human hearing or whatever or like only audio

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engineers can hear the difference maybe i maybe

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i could be an audio there's a point there's like

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a thing of diminishing returns though like the

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more you get the less you're going to notice

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but like from the bottom to the top there is

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a difference you know what i mean yeah that's

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true it's like wine like you know the biggest

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super expensive wine isn't like a ten thousand

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dollar bottle of wine how much different can

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be at a hundred dollar bottle of wine but like

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a five dollar bottle of wine and a hundred there's

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a difference you know what i mean yeah that is

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true but that's what i'm saying it's like that's

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what that's what separates you from being like

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hardcore right like audio file is that so just

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depends well with audio dude like the biggest

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thing is like you can spend all this money but

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if you have a shit audio file yeah that's not

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gonna make a difference there's a lot of factors

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into it dude there's a lot i mean the biggest

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thing that makes a big difference is is having

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a good quality file the medium yeah yeah the

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medium So, if you don't have that, then there's

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no point in buying these $300 headphones and

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an audio player and all that. No, for sure. And

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I think now, that's why I was looking at them,

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too, because I think Spotify, I know they're

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lossless now, so I don't know if they really

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had... It's not going to be as good as, like,

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a CD -O file. No, probably not, but I mean, it's

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not compressed, and it's not going to be the

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quality that it was, so... I mean, one album

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for like 10 songs is like 3 gigs. Yeah, true.

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From the stuff that's been ripped. True. There

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ain't no way I'm streaming 3 gigs of music from...

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I don't know, bro. Spotify says you... It's not,

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because I can go a couple days. Oh, okay. And

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you know how my phone will tell me a 2 gig warning

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or whatever. Well, do you have a data limit on

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your streaming in the app? Just on my phone.

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After two gigs, they throttle it. Are you streaming

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lossless on your service or whatever? Yeah, but

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not all of it. Sometimes it picks and chews.

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Oh, so it's just on auto. Yeah, it just picks

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whatever. I guess if I have a good enough signal

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or whatever. I don't know how it factors it in,

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but not every song I listen to is a lossless

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file. Okay. I have all my shit downloaded from

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Spotify, so it's all lossless. I wish I could,

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but... Yeah. 10 ,000 songs is a lot. Yeah. Well,

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I think my phones are terrible, so. Mine's all

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ripped from CD, so. Yeah. That's understandable.

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Which, dude, I had that music on my phone, but

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my phone was struggling, dude. I had to delete

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that stuff, dude. That's why you gotta have a

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memory card. Yeah, well. It doesn't exist anymore,

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dude. That's another topic for another time.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. All right, I'm done. Like I

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said, bro, I don't know what to say. What else?

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Who's next? I got some stuff to talk about here.

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All right, talk away, bro. Talk away. I just

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finished Stellar Blade, finally. Nice. Dude,

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I know I was talking to Jacob, but man, that

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last boss was a fucking pain. Oh, yeah. Yeah,

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they're tough. He was tough. But excellent game.

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I love that game. Yeah, I do want to play it.

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It does look pretty good. It's good. It's tough.

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You got to get down the pairing and stuff. Yeah.

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Not always my favorite thing to do. But the story's

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a little wonky too, but it's definitely fun.

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Now I got to get the DLC for that because I love

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Nier. Oh, yeah. They have a Nier DLC. Nice. So

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I got to get that. Eric, if you say no to Adam

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all the way at the end of the game, you can fight

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a different boss. Okay. Yeah, I might have to

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go back and do that. I'm still reading my Dungeon

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Crawler Carl books. I'm on the fourth one. I

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just read he's going to have 10 books total.

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Just read that. Yeah. He's on the eighth one's

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about to come out next month. Yeah. And they

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say he's making the ninth and tenth one's going

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to be two books or something. I don't know. They're

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getting bigger and bigger. So that's crazy. I've

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been slowing down on reading just because I've

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been doing so much stuff, other stuff. But they're

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still good. I do want to start with the fourth

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one. It's good, man. I mean, it's video game

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related. But what else? I started watching the

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Trigun anime. Oh, dude, the original one? Yeah,

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the 98 one. Yeah, that was good, dude. It's awesome.

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It's good. It's not bad by any means. It's just

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a little different than the manga. Oh, is it?

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Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, it's not bad. It's just

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different. I thought it was good. I liked it.

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No, it is good. It's just very goofy. Yeah, it

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is. It's a goofy one. Even the manga's goofy,

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but not that goofy. Oh, really? Yeah. And then,

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like, I don't remember Vash being such a womanizer.

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Like, he wasn't... Yeah. It wasn't like that

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in the books. But it's still good. So... I read

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somebody, they were talking about it. They basically

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said, like, the anime is basically from the viewpoint

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of the insurance girls. Yeah. And then the books

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are just basically what actually happened. That's

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interesting. They're still canon, basically.

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Right. Got some new music. We didn't listen to

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new music. Yeah. We're always doing it. Yeah,

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Lamb of God got a new album out that's really

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good. Oh, yeah, they do, don't they? Dude, you

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should check it out. It's really good. Yeah.

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I haven't listened to it in the past, too. Yeah,

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I didn't listen to the one before that. I did,

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but I had it on while I was at work, so I wasn't

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paying attention to it. But nothing caught my

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ear. Yeah. I want that new Whitechapel album.

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Yeah, dude, I know. I listened to a couple songs.

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Yeah, it's good. And then you need to listen

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to new Body Snatchers. I'm waiting for my CD

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in the mail. It's so good. CD's in the mail.

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Yeah, dude. You gotta pop that in as soon as

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you get it. It's so good. Yeah, this album's

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definitely good. Alright, I think I'm done yapping.

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Okay. Jacob, what you got? I got the newest Resident

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Evil Requiem, and it was pretty good. I don't

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think it was as good as VII or VIII, but it was

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definitely fun. I think it honestly had the best

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story out of the three newer games, though. So

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I'll say that. Was it more action -y or horror?

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Well, it has a mix. So the new character, Grace,

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her gameplay is more akin to VII's gameplay.

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Where it's like more survival or more like horror,

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like slower paced. And then Leon's gameplay is

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more action paced. How does that work? Like it

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just goes back and forth between the two? Or

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is it like two separate playthroughs? Yeah, so

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you'll switch between Grace and Leon in one playthrough.

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Okay, yeah. So you'll go through Grace's section

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and then you'll go through Leon's. I gotcha.

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cool i know it does look good yeah i think the

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only problem i have with the game really is just

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the damage distribution feels a little off like

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with grace you can only have like a pistol and

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a magnum those are your two only weapons and

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i kind of understand why but i just it would

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have felt nice if i had something like i don't

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know a shotgun i just i remember playing seven

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and seven was great because uh i mean you had

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your You had a set of weapons. You could have

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a pistol. I think you could find an SMG and get

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a shotgun. It just works. It feels nice. I don't

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know why. At night, it feels like you had to

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really shoot. You had to shoot a good amount

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of bullets into the zombies to really kill them.

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It didn't feel that way in 7. It's a pain when

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you have a gun and it's useless. I was going

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to say, I feel like most horror games just haven't

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done guns right. Yeah. Again, I think VII and

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VIII are fine. IX is the only one that didn't

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do it right. Apart from all that, IX was awesome.

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Its story was insane. It was really good. Very

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immersive. The atmosphere was awesome as well.

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It's definitely worth buying it. Apart from Resident

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Evil, I also played Knight's Journey of Dreams.

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which is the sequel to the game we're talking

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about today. It was released for the Wii. Dang,

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but we really liked this game. I did. He's a

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Sonic man. Yeah, I love Sonic Team. But I think

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it was also a pretty fun game. I mean, it's pretty

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similar too. It's Saturn counterpart. I mean,

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it just has an actual story and cut scenes this

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time. It has more gameplay to it rather than

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just flying through rings and destroying the...

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nightmare devices, whatever they're called. A

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card game has more gameplay than this game. Save

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it for later. We'll get into it. But I enjoyed

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Journey of Dreams as well. Oh, one more thing.

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I read this book called Middle School, The Worst

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Years of My Life. It's a book for middle schoolers,

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but the only reason why I read it is because

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I saw this social media post where someone commented

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did anybody else read this book and was shocked

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by the silent hill 2 like ending and i was like

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what so i was like i gotta read it now activated

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yeah i gotta read it now i gotta see if there's

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if i'm being gaslit or not so i read it and uh

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i mean it's not it certainly has a twist to it

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but nowhere near the twist level of like silent

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hill 2 does That was just the author trying to

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get you to buy the book. Yeah. No, it worked.

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It was going to get somebody. No, I mean, the

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twist is like Silent Hill 2, but I mean, its

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execution isn't as strong, which I mean, again,

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it's a book for middle schoolers. Otherwise,

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it wasn't a bad book, though. It was decent enough.

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I guess that's all for me. I haven't been doing

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too much else. Okay. So... I applied a God of

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War Ragnarok. I finished that up. I did everything

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in it. It took longer. You liked that Valkyrie

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at the end there? Yeah, that was a bitch. It

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was a bitch. It's still not as hard as the original

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one. No, but man, she was tough. Yeah, she was

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tough. She was probably the hardest boss in the

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game, for sure. Yeah. The king wasn't that bad.

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He wasn't too bad. No. But I still think the

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original Valkyries were harder. I started Valhalla,

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which is the roguelike DLC that they added to

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the game. It's actually pretty decent. I didn't

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think I was going to like it. I'm not big on

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roguelites, but this one's actually not bad.

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It's pretty decent. The loops are kind of short,

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so it's not too bad. No, it's not bad. When you

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get further and further, it starts to become

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a pain. There's an actual story in there, too,

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to drive you along, which is something I always

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like. Yeah, I'm almost done with that. I'm finishing

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that up. And then I played a game and beat a

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game called Monster Bag on the Vita. It's a really

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unique puzzle game. It's really weird. You play

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as this little monster creature. And you're trying

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to get to your little friend. And you have to

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jump on the back of humans. They're in a line.

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It's like a puzzle game. And you have to figure

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out how to jump between them and stuff. But they're

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all stick image. kind of style. But then the

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game starts getting really violent. People are

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getting shot, and then aliens come in and just

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start killing people and stuff. It's really weird.

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I've never even heard of this game. Yeah, it's

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a strange game, but it was actually pretty fun.

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It was kind of my... Remember Stick Fights? Remember

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those old Flash enemies? It reminds me of that,

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where it's just stick people getting decimated.

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It was fun. It was a fun little game. It was

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a quick little romp, but it was a really unique

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and different game for the Vita. That's interesting.

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Yeah, it was interesting. And then, let's see,

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House Flipper. I've been playing that. It was

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free on Steam. House Flipper? Yeah, bro. I've

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been painting walls and cleaning up trash. I

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don't know why. It's just an easy game. It just

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makes me... It's a cozy game, you know? That

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game is fun. Yeah. It's just a serotonin hit

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of cleaning things up and stuff. But I've been

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playing that. And then we played... We were playing...

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What's that game called? Something... Outpost?

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What's that alien game we were playing? Roadside?

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Roadside Research. Oh, yeah, yeah, we were playing

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that. That game's pretty fun. I've been enjoying

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that. Dude, I was having such a blast. Yeah,

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we've been playing that. I think it's fun. Yeah.

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That was pretty fun. We gotta keep playing that,

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so. Yeah, I know. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And

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then, I think that's pretty much it. Oh, I finished

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Moby Dick. What a... Oh, did you? What a fucking

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weird book that is. I went in expecting something

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and got something completely different. I thought

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it was a book about a captain chasing down a

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whale. But, like, that's only, like, a third

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of the book. Like, the whole book's told from

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the perspective of a guy named Ishmael who's

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just, like, a seaman on the boat. But, like,

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the first hundred pages, they're not even on

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the boat. And then, like, it's so weird. How

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many pages? It's, like, a 500 -page book. It's

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crazy. But, like, a third of the book is about

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Ahab and chasing the white whale. another third

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of the book is just about ishmael and like his

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daily life and another third of the book is like

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facts on like what whales are made of and like

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how to dude there's no chapters where he just

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describes a different type of whales like that's

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the entire chapter and then there's like other

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chapters about how you like de -skin a whale

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and take out all the the spermicide it's it's

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a strange book dude it's not at all what i expected

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Information book? It really is, dude. It's a

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super weird book. It's crazy. I don't know if

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I would recommend it to anybody, but if you want

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to learn some shit about whales, I guess go ahead.

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Really weird book. When was that written? Like

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1920 or something? Probably early, late 1800s,

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early 1900s, yeah. It's like a Nat Geo book.

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It's weird, dude. It's a strange book. It's not

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at all what I expected. Oh, 1851. Jesus Christ.

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Yeah, okay. It's pretty old then. Yep, that's

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all I've got. So if that's the end of that, let's

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go ahead and jump over to our view for Nights

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into Dreams. Elliot is playing basketball with

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his classmates. Some of the older kids from school

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show up and challenge Elliot and his friends

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to a game. A teammate passes long to Elliot,

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who is just a few feet from the net, but the

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star player on the other team steals the ball.

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A long pass down court and a slam dunk finishes

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the day. Elliot walks back home, alone. Today

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is Clarice's chance to show her family she has

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stage talent. The stage light flares on, and

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her heart starts racing. The directors are out

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there, watching. Clarice approaches the microphone,

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but something's not right. A small voice inside

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tells her that everyone will laugh. A few seconds

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pass, and the voices grow louder. No longer able

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to bear it, Clarice runs off the stage. Nights.

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In their dreams, Ellie and Clarice have seen

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nights. Of being capable of flying freely through

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the sky, and performing the trickiest of aerial

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acrobatics. But what is Nights? A spirit? A memory?

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Whatever he, she, or it is, Nights plays an important

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part in the upcoming battle with the evil Wisemen,

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Nightopia in peril. That night, Ellie and Claris

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return home, thinking themselves failures, not

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realizing that the real challenge is about to

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begin. In the world of Nightopia, where our dreams

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are played out, An evil being is gaining tremendous

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power. He is Wiseman the Wicked, and through

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his creations, the Nightmaron, he captures precious

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dream energy from humans. If he is not stopped,

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he will rise from the subconscious and enter

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our world. No power on Earth will be able to

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stop him. As Wiseman's Nightmaron starts fulfilling

00:23:26.309 --> 00:23:29.730
his horrible plan, a Nightopian escapes from

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the dream world and begs the sleeping Elliot

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and Claris to save the world from the evil being.

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Just a few moments ago, they felt like total

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failures. But now that the world needs their

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help, Elliot and Claris feel, for the first time

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in their lives, a courage growing within them.

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They accept the Nightopian's desperate request.

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The creature explains to them that they need

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to recover four types of dream energy from Wiseman's

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Idia capture, a group of large machine -like

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beings. The four energies are white, representing

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purity, green for wisdom, yellow for hope, and

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blue for intelligence. Wiseman will attempt to

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steal Elliot and Claris's dream energy and try

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to confuse them by placing them in strange dream

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worlds. These worlds are places developed from

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the depths of their minds. The fifth and rarest

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of the dream energies, bravery, red in color,

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is the only type of energy Wiseman and his henchmen

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cannot steal. It is said that the only one not

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yet under Wiseman's power is Nights, who appears

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as an aerial acrobat and is attracted to the

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Red Dream energy. The Nightopian believes that

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Elliot and Claris possess this rare energy, and

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thus, knights will come to their aid. The Nightopian

00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:45.099
warns that, sooner or later, Wiseman will send

00:24:45.099 --> 00:24:47.619
the most powerful of his Nightmaron, his henchmen,

00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:50.940
after Claris and Elliot. The two children will

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need the help of knights every step of the way

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to thwart Wiseman's plans, if they are to restore

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peace to Nightopia. Alright, Knights into Dreams

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was developed by Sonic Team and published by

00:25:04.569 --> 00:25:09.309
Sega in 1996 for the Sega Saturn. This is the

00:25:09.309 --> 00:25:12.750
first Sonic Team game. So this game was made

00:25:12.750 --> 00:25:14.990
by the people who created their first Sonic.

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And I think this was their first non -Sonic game.

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And this is when I think the Sonic Team moniker

00:25:21.329 --> 00:25:25.069
came into play. This game was actually created

00:25:25.069 --> 00:25:28.690
alongside the 3D controller, which was an early

00:25:28.690 --> 00:25:32.910
analog controller. For the Sega Saturn. I think

00:25:32.910 --> 00:25:36.190
this was before the PS1 analog controller, I

00:25:36.190 --> 00:25:38.849
think. The DualShock. When did the Saturn end?

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Uh, 99. Oh, it went that far? The Dreamcast came

00:25:43.789 --> 00:25:48.730
out in 99, so. Oh, okay. 99, 99. That's when

00:25:48.730 --> 00:25:52.190
the Dreamcast released. September 9th, 1999.

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Yeah, I think this came out before the DualShock,

00:25:55.450 --> 00:25:57.779
but. I don't really know as much else to say

00:25:57.779 --> 00:26:00.380
about it. Jacob, this was your game, so what

00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:03.220
was the interest or desire to play in this game?

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So I actually played a little bit of this game

00:26:05.619 --> 00:26:09.940
before deciding to choose it, and I just had

00:26:09.940 --> 00:26:13.359
fun with it. It's a Sonic Team game. I love Sonic

00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:17.200
games, so it just seemed like a perfect fit,

00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.720
in my opinion. Okay. Were you guys able to complete

00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:26.789
this game? Yeah! Nope. You didn't even beat the

00:26:26.789 --> 00:26:30.269
game? No, I had like a level or two, and I just

00:26:30.269 --> 00:26:32.950
didn't want to fucking play it. Yeah, I beat

00:26:32.950 --> 00:26:35.109
it. I had to slog my way through it, but I did

00:26:35.109 --> 00:26:48.289
get to the end of it. So, the story of the game,

00:26:48.410 --> 00:26:49.990
and there's always spoilers when we review these

00:26:49.990 --> 00:26:53.119
games, so just to let you know. The world of

00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:55.319
Nightopia is being overtaken by an evil nightmare.

00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.519
Knights, who is the purple jester on the cover

00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:01.579
of the game, recruits basically two losers with

00:27:01.579 --> 00:27:04.579
strong resolve to help them defeat the evil nightmare.

00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:06.880
Both children eventually defeat the henchmen

00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:08.900
in the final nightmare and save the dream universe

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and gain the courage to improve their own lives

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in the real world. Such a great story. I don't...

00:27:17.259 --> 00:27:19.079
Knights into Dreams, I don't even know what kind

00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:22.769
of game this is. Like... And it's cool. I would

00:27:22.769 --> 00:27:25.430
say it's a racing game, honestly. It's like a

00:27:25.430 --> 00:27:29.470
time trial game. It's a score attack. I guess,

00:27:29.690 --> 00:27:34.069
yeah. I guess so. But you're doing time trials.

00:27:35.470 --> 00:27:38.769
So you play as Jester and you fly around. It's

00:27:38.769 --> 00:27:42.009
like a two and a half D. So you fly around these

00:27:42.009 --> 00:27:45.309
tracks, I guess, and they're open. Courses, yeah.

00:27:45.549 --> 00:27:47.650
Yeah, they're open areas, and there's things

00:27:47.650 --> 00:27:50.329
to collect. There's rings you can fly through.

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But you're trying to collect these little blue

00:27:52.210 --> 00:27:54.509
spheres, and when you get 20 of them, you can

00:27:54.509 --> 00:27:57.650
enter this little idea creature and kill him,

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and that basically clears the course. And you

00:28:00.269 --> 00:28:04.829
get the, what is it called? The little sphere?

00:28:05.089 --> 00:28:08.349
Yeah, the little sphere, yeah. And then you can

00:28:08.349 --> 00:28:12.099
clear that course. I guess the idea is to not

00:28:12.099 --> 00:28:14.339
clear it as fast as possible. See, this is the

00:28:14.339 --> 00:28:17.160
thing I don't understand about this game. There's

00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:21.319
a score rating, and the longer you take to complete

00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:23.920
the level, the more score you get. To me, it

00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:27.339
seems like this game's about speed, so it feels

00:28:27.339 --> 00:28:28.900
like you'd want to complete the level as fast

00:28:28.900 --> 00:28:31.839
as possible. I think you're thinking of it backwards,

00:28:32.019 --> 00:28:34.720
kind of. Yeah. Well, but the design of the game

00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:37.319
seems to be that way. Like, I don't understand.

00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.920
What you want to do first is destroy that thing

00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:43.420
first, and then after that you want to run the

00:28:43.420 --> 00:28:45.980
course as many times as you can before the time

00:28:45.980 --> 00:28:48.880
runs out. There is no time bonus after you destroy

00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:54.359
those monsters. Yeah, I just don't understand

00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:58.099
what the idea of this game was, who it was made

00:28:58.099 --> 00:29:01.140
for, and why anyone would enjoy it. I don't get

00:29:01.140 --> 00:29:04.900
this game. It makes no sense to me. It's just

00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:08.769
a weird game. It's an odd premise. You're trying

00:29:08.769 --> 00:29:10.769
to rack up your score. Like you said, it's basically

00:29:10.769 --> 00:29:14.450
a score, but for some reason, yeah, there's no,

00:29:14.450 --> 00:29:17.390
there's no improvement on, there's no like extra

00:29:17.390 --> 00:29:20.549
score for beating the course fast. Yeah. So.

00:29:21.150 --> 00:29:23.710
It's more like just take your time. Not really.

00:29:23.789 --> 00:29:26.589
I mean, yes and no. It's not. Yeah. You have

00:29:26.589 --> 00:29:29.950
to run the clock basically, but you have to like.

00:29:30.150 --> 00:29:32.569
Use your time wisely. Yeah. You have to make

00:29:32.569 --> 00:29:36.430
as many circles as you can within that timeframe.

00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:40.380
It's not really take your time, but. Yeah. Gotta

00:29:40.380 --> 00:29:42.880
use your time wisely. That's it. Yeah. You have

00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:45.420
this amount of time and just figure out how many

00:29:45.420 --> 00:29:48.339
times you can go around and figure out, you know,

00:29:48.339 --> 00:29:52.259
during the runs that you do, how many stars and

00:29:52.259 --> 00:29:56.940
orbs you can pick up. And that's fun. Yeah. I

00:29:56.940 --> 00:29:58.420
like going fast and doing shit like that. Just

00:29:58.420 --> 00:30:00.500
repeating the same thing over and over and over.

00:30:00.500 --> 00:30:02.599
The same exact thing, yeah. Yeah. But that's

00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:05.140
the point. Why are you going fast for? If you're

00:30:05.140 --> 00:30:07.359
going fast, it should be finishing level as fast

00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:08.619
as possible. I don't understand the point of

00:30:08.619 --> 00:30:09.119
the speed if you're just going to be doing...

00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.220
Going fast is fun. And again, you have to go

00:30:11.220 --> 00:30:13.660
through the, what's it called, little courses

00:30:13.660 --> 00:30:17.599
as fast as you can because... Over and over and

00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:20.289
over. No, not over and over and over. Yes, over

00:30:20.289 --> 00:30:22.529
and over and over. Until the clock runs out.

00:30:22.589 --> 00:30:24.589
I know. So what's the point of being fast? That's

00:30:24.589 --> 00:30:26.509
what I don't understand. The two things don't

00:30:26.509 --> 00:30:28.430
match for me. The two things don't match for

00:30:28.430 --> 00:30:32.150
me. You have to keep getting more runs. If you're

00:30:32.150 --> 00:30:34.029
fast, you'll get more runs. So you don't want

00:30:34.029 --> 00:30:36.109
to have less runs because then you won't get

00:30:36.109 --> 00:30:37.789
as much score. Then what's the point of being

00:30:37.789 --> 00:30:41.430
fast? So you can get more runs? You want your

00:30:41.430 --> 00:30:44.210
score to go up. Those two things don't mesh for

00:30:44.210 --> 00:30:46.190
me. I don't understand the idea of those two

00:30:46.190 --> 00:30:49.210
things. If Jacob can understand it, I think you

00:30:49.210 --> 00:30:52.069
can. It's not a hard concept. I get where he's

00:30:52.069 --> 00:30:56.710
coming from. You would think as a Sonic game...

00:30:56.710 --> 00:31:00.869
It's not a Sonic game. Speed is an aspect, but

00:31:00.869 --> 00:31:03.970
it's not the only aspect. And even then, speed

00:31:03.970 --> 00:31:05.950
is not the only aspect in a Sonic game either.

00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:08.240
Yeah, and that's something Team Sonic sucks at,

00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:10.859
is they make these games where you feel like

00:31:10.859 --> 00:31:12.700
you want to speed, but then they punish you for

00:31:12.700 --> 00:31:14.420
being fast. They're really good at that. That's

00:31:14.420 --> 00:31:17.500
my biggest gripe with Sonic games. Yeah, I definitely

00:31:17.500 --> 00:31:20.480
think so. But anyway, so you have four courses,

00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:22.599
so there's like, what, six worlds? And you can

00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.000
play as either the girl or the boy, Claris, and

00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.299
I forget the other guy's name. Elliot. And so

00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:31.500
each course is like, which I do like this part

00:31:31.500 --> 00:31:34.859
of the game, so each world... Is a 3d map that

00:31:34.859 --> 00:31:37.140
they made and there's four courses that you fly

00:31:37.140 --> 00:31:39.220
throughout through the one map, which is pretty

00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:42.019
cool I like that idea and then once you get through

00:31:42.019 --> 00:31:44.940
the each time you finish a course you get a ranking

00:31:44.940 --> 00:31:46.900
Which is kind of funny because I think these

00:31:46.900 --> 00:31:49.119
rankings were the inspiration for the Sonic games

00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:50.759
later on So I think they actually came from this

00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:54.839
game and then once you get through all four courses

00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.779
you Are teleported and you have to fight the

00:31:57.779 --> 00:32:00.259
boss for the world and some of those bosses are

00:32:00.259 --> 00:32:04.119
a bitch man. Yeah, that's my Biggest thing with

00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:06.099
this game, these bosses suck. Yeah, and just

00:32:06.099 --> 00:32:08.119
figuring out what to do on some of them is so

00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:11.759
hard. A couple of bosses I had to look up because

00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:14.259
I could not figure out what to do. That car dude

00:32:14.259 --> 00:32:17.460
and the cat. Yeah, those two are tough. Yeah,

00:32:17.460 --> 00:32:19.819
the car dude's hard. And what sucks about this

00:32:19.819 --> 00:32:21.740
game is if you fail the boss, you have to start

00:32:21.740 --> 00:32:24.960
completely over on the world. It's so hard, dude.

00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:28.119
Yeah, it's annoying. And this game is so annoying

00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.779
because every time you start something over,

00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:33.099
you go back to the title screen. Why was that

00:32:33.099 --> 00:32:35.160
necessary? Why did you have to do that every

00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.019
single fucking time? You can't go to the next

00:32:37.019 --> 00:32:38.619
course. You can't go to the next level. Oh, my

00:32:38.619 --> 00:32:41.359
God, man. Every time to the title screen. You

00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:42.920
couldn't just hit retry and start over. You had

00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:45.000
to go back to the title screen. No, it's like

00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.299
you had to reset the whole game. Yeah, it's so

00:32:47.299 --> 00:32:49.500
annoying. And then, so anyway, you get through,

00:32:49.619 --> 00:32:52.799
what, you have to get C ranking on three courses,

00:32:52.900 --> 00:32:54.480
is it, right? Three different courses? Four,

00:32:54.500 --> 00:32:57.029
right? Well, three to unlock the fourth one,

00:32:57.109 --> 00:32:58.910
right? I think there's three courses and then

00:32:58.910 --> 00:33:01.230
the fourth one that Elliot and Clara share, right?

00:33:01.829 --> 00:33:04.869
Yeah. Yeah. So you had to get a ranking of C

00:33:04.869 --> 00:33:07.170
to unlock the fourth one. And then they both

00:33:07.170 --> 00:33:09.029
share the same ending. But what was pretty cool

00:33:09.029 --> 00:33:11.690
is that they'll join each other. So in the final

00:33:11.690 --> 00:33:14.329
level, they work together to beat the final boss.

00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:17.049
And then once you beat the final boss, you get

00:33:17.049 --> 00:33:19.609
their specific ending. And then I think if you

00:33:19.609 --> 00:33:23.380
beat both of their endings, you get the... The

00:33:23.380 --> 00:33:25.099
special ending. Secret ending. Yeah, where they're

00:33:25.099 --> 00:33:28.019
both happy. I guess they're dating each other

00:33:28.019 --> 00:33:30.180
or something now. I don't know. So that's kind

00:33:30.180 --> 00:33:32.299
of the gameplay. I don't know. Do you guys have

00:33:32.299 --> 00:33:34.319
anything else about gameplay? I mean, you can

00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:36.559
fly around. My biggest gripe with this game is

00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.539
that the courses are so open -ended. I don't

00:33:38.539 --> 00:33:40.500
really understand where you're supposed to go.

00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:43.000
I mean, I guess that's the part of the game is

00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:46.940
figuring out the optimal pathing. That's the

00:33:46.940 --> 00:33:48.759
part. I think that's the biggest part of the

00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:52.259
game is finding... When you start out, there's

00:33:52.259 --> 00:33:54.720
the spheres and then there's a rings and then

00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:57.839
there's like the stars. You have to figure out

00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.500
how can you collect those in one giant collective

00:34:00.500 --> 00:34:04.759
thing. Right. And that's where the skill, I guess,

00:34:04.779 --> 00:34:07.460
basically comes into this game. Right. Is figuring

00:34:07.460 --> 00:34:10.639
out the course. How can you link all these things

00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.280
into one thing to get a big score? You're also

00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.500
forgetting to paraglide. What's that? If you,

00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.099
if you, if there's like a, what's it called?

00:34:19.630 --> 00:34:21.730
if there's like a collection of orbs in one place

00:34:21.730 --> 00:34:24.030
and then you do a circle around it you'll collect

00:34:24.030 --> 00:34:26.769
all of them and then you can you can also collect

00:34:26.769 --> 00:34:29.869
uh orbs that on different sides of the course

00:34:29.869 --> 00:34:31.690
yeah they're in like different they're ahead

00:34:31.690 --> 00:34:35.929
and after uh what's it called knights's z dimension

00:34:35.929 --> 00:34:38.550
i think so you wouldn't be able to collect them

00:34:38.550 --> 00:34:39.949
if you just went through it but if you did the

00:34:39.949 --> 00:34:43.349
circle you can collect them so and you get points

00:34:43.349 --> 00:34:46.789
for that too so you know there you get you get

00:34:46.789 --> 00:34:50.440
points in this game for being stylish Yeah, if

00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.380
you go through one of those rings, you can do,

00:34:52.420 --> 00:34:56.000
like, tricks and stuff. Yeah. I hated that aspect,

00:34:56.139 --> 00:34:59.260
dude. It's terrible. Really? I don't like it.

00:34:59.300 --> 00:35:01.840
I mean, it's not great, but... Every time I try

00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:03.480
to do a trick, it, like, doesn't do anything,

00:35:03.579 --> 00:35:06.480
or, like, if you press the other trigger too

00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.900
fast, it cancels it out. I just don't think it's

00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:12.179
fun. Because you're trying to fly around, and

00:35:12.179 --> 00:35:13.820
you're doing these tricks, and some of them make

00:35:13.820 --> 00:35:15.940
you go straight down or straight up, and it just...

00:35:16.090 --> 00:35:18.670
messes with your your loops and stuff well speaking

00:35:18.670 --> 00:35:21.429
of that um you can go faster in this game the

00:35:21.429 --> 00:35:23.590
whole day but you can't do it infinitely you

00:35:23.590 --> 00:35:25.469
have like an energy bar so if you go through

00:35:25.469 --> 00:35:29.489
the yeah oh there's those there's also like special

00:35:29.489 --> 00:35:31.889
rings that uh i don't know if this is what eric

00:35:31.889 --> 00:35:33.869
was alluding to but there's special rings where

00:35:33.869 --> 00:35:36.630
the game will give you extra points for doing

00:35:36.630 --> 00:35:39.269
tricks so like if you go like at a really big

00:35:39.269 --> 00:35:42.210
circle it's called like a large loop yeah that's

00:35:42.210 --> 00:35:45.460
what i was talking about okay There's like a

00:35:45.460 --> 00:35:47.340
trailing thing behind you that you can loop together.

00:35:48.059 --> 00:35:52.500
Yeah. Make special shapes and be all fancy. Yeah.

00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:54.980
And if you, you can do like, you know, you do

00:35:54.980 --> 00:35:56.739
like all these tricks, like five, six or whatever,

00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.880
and I'll say like seven wonderful or whatever,

00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:01.280
you know, tell you how many tricks you did, but

00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.420
it's a pain in the ass and it's annoying. Yep.

00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:06.539
And to me, it's completely useless anyway. Right.

00:36:06.900 --> 00:36:11.119
Just like the whole game. Well, for sure. Oh

00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:17.269
boy. You of all people, bro. I don't get this

00:36:17.269 --> 00:36:19.929
game. I had to force myself to finish this game.

00:36:20.030 --> 00:36:22.530
I did not like it one bit. When I first played

00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:24.469
it, I'm like, what the hell am I doing? What

00:36:24.469 --> 00:36:26.630
is going on? Yeah. And the more I played it,

00:36:26.690 --> 00:36:29.190
the more I understood it, so. No, I didn't at

00:36:29.190 --> 00:36:31.630
all. Your neurons were not activating. Yeah.

00:36:31.929 --> 00:36:33.449
I don't know. You gotta have a certain amount

00:36:33.449 --> 00:36:35.969
of tism. I just did not get, yeah, I guess I'm

00:36:35.969 --> 00:36:38.829
not autistic enough, yeah. You're not solid autistic

00:36:38.829 --> 00:36:40.429
enough. We'll see, and then one of the, so one

00:36:40.429 --> 00:36:42.780
of the other things is like, so the, One of the

00:36:42.780 --> 00:36:44.820
main motivations is to get the A -ranking on

00:36:44.820 --> 00:36:48.260
these courses, but they seem so counterintuitive.

00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.219
Like, one of the techniques is to collect orbs

00:36:51.219 --> 00:36:53.760
as the child before you become knights. What

00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:55.880
is the point of that? Why would they make that

00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:59.039
a part of the game? I don't get it. I don't think

00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.460
that's part of it. It is. It's one of those strategies

00:37:02.460 --> 00:37:06.460
for getting an A -rank. Collect orbs before you

00:37:06.460 --> 00:37:08.940
go to knights? Yeah. As a child, you run around

00:37:08.940 --> 00:37:10.860
and collect orbs and then go and become knights

00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:13.440
so that way you can kill the idea of the idiot

00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:17.460
thing faster. I never did that. I mean, you don't

00:37:17.460 --> 00:37:20.199
have to do it. It does help. That's a terrible

00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.860
strategy. That's how all the high -scored people

00:37:23.860 --> 00:37:26.920
do it. Well, I mean, if you want to get a high

00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:28.739
score, maybe, but that's not the only way to

00:37:28.739 --> 00:37:32.039
get an A ranking. That's a terrible way to do

00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:35.179
that. It seems like it's the easiest. It's not

00:37:35.179 --> 00:37:38.320
the funnest way, but... Yeah, fuck that. Yeah.

00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:41.639
Because... Just get good at flying. Well, that's

00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.179
another thing of the gameplay. You can walk around

00:37:44.179 --> 00:37:47.619
these 3D maps as your character. Right. If you

00:37:47.619 --> 00:37:48.900
run out of... So that's another thing. If you

00:37:48.900 --> 00:37:50.360
run out of... Because they're all timed. So if

00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.039
you run out of time before you finish the course,

00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:54.800
you'll get knocked out of being nice and back

00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:57.340
to the child. And then you can run around. And

00:37:57.340 --> 00:38:00.860
if you get back to the... The little tower place

00:38:00.860 --> 00:38:02.860
fast enough. Yeah, whatever it is. The goal post.

00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:05.539
Yeah, you can turn back into knights. But while

00:38:05.539 --> 00:38:08.699
you're running around, there's an egg timer that

00:38:08.699 --> 00:38:10.940
will chase you down. And if it catches you, you

00:38:10.940 --> 00:38:14.119
lose and have to start over. It's like an alarm

00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:15.659
clock, isn't it? Yeah, I think it's an egg. Like

00:38:15.659 --> 00:38:17.179
waking you up because you're dreaming? I think

00:38:17.179 --> 00:38:18.519
it's literally an egg timer is what it said.

00:38:18.739 --> 00:38:21.800
Oh, okay. I thought it was an alarm clock because

00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.360
you're sleeping. Yeah. It could be the... Go

00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:26.119
ahead. I was just saying, I think the instruction

00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:27.519
is called an egg timer, but I could be wrong.

00:38:27.699 --> 00:38:29.909
But... Yeah, I don't know. It is cool that you

00:38:29.909 --> 00:38:32.050
can control that camera. I thought that was nice.

00:38:32.050 --> 00:38:33.449
So you can see the whole map around everything.

00:38:33.610 --> 00:38:35.170
And that was one of the things that I will say

00:38:35.170 --> 00:38:37.349
that was good about this game is the camera is

00:38:37.349 --> 00:38:39.409
actually pretty good in this game. Yes and no.

00:38:39.429 --> 00:38:41.329
Sometimes when you're going through these courses

00:38:41.329 --> 00:38:45.429
really fast, everything kind of blurs together.

00:38:45.769 --> 00:38:47.710
A little bit, but Ignite always seems to stay

00:38:47.710 --> 00:38:49.510
right in the middle of the camera, which is good.

00:38:49.710 --> 00:38:52.230
And then there's... There's different courses

00:38:52.230 --> 00:38:54.650
where they go into different views of the camera.

00:38:54.730 --> 00:38:56.690
Sometimes it's overhead. Sometimes it's behind.

00:38:56.909 --> 00:38:58.829
Sometimes it's on the side. And I actually like

00:38:58.829 --> 00:39:00.269
that. And the transitions are actually pretty

00:39:00.269 --> 00:39:02.610
good. That was one of the things that I think

00:39:02.610 --> 00:39:06.550
the game did pretty well, actually. So the camera

00:39:06.550 --> 00:39:09.469
is pretty good. Speaking of all that, the controls,

00:39:09.690 --> 00:39:12.909
I feel, were... I don't know. They were okay.

00:39:13.710 --> 00:39:17.690
Yeah. I just... I tried both the digital and

00:39:17.690 --> 00:39:19.489
the analog, and I definitely think the analog

00:39:19.489 --> 00:39:21.750
is better, but one of my biggest problems...

00:39:21.750 --> 00:39:24.070
Actually, I didn't try the analog just because

00:39:24.070 --> 00:39:26.550
I got used to the D -pad so much. My biggest

00:39:26.550 --> 00:39:29.050
complaint is I felt like I was always just off

00:39:29.050 --> 00:39:31.409
of collecting stuff. It was always just a little

00:39:31.409 --> 00:39:34.050
too high or too low, and I was always missing

00:39:34.050 --> 00:39:37.590
it. I'm sure that's just a skill issue, but I

00:39:37.590 --> 00:39:40.889
just... I don't know. It made me hate the game

00:39:40.889 --> 00:39:45.239
even more. It is, because you... It is tough.

00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:47.579
I feel like the hitboxes on them are a little

00:39:47.579 --> 00:39:50.739
off, or whatever you want to call it. Especially

00:39:50.739 --> 00:39:53.659
with the bosses, too. Trying to dodge boss attacks

00:39:53.659 --> 00:39:56.519
and keep losing time every time, and then you

00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:57.860
have to start over and play the whole fucking

00:39:57.860 --> 00:40:00.619
thing again. I know, it's a pain in the ass.

00:40:01.460 --> 00:40:05.579
It's definitely dated. I just don't think it

00:40:05.579 --> 00:40:07.360
aged very well. I don't think it was good when

00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:11.639
it came out, to be honest. Yeah, I don't know.

00:40:12.269 --> 00:40:15.190
I mean, it's a Saturn game. I mean, this is one

00:40:15.190 --> 00:40:16.730
of the games that Sega thought was going to sell

00:40:16.730 --> 00:40:18.170
Saturns. I don't know what the fuck they were

00:40:18.170 --> 00:40:22.050
thinking. Jacob, did you play Christmas? Yeah,

00:40:22.070 --> 00:40:24.050
a little bit. Did you get to the Sonic mode?

00:40:25.369 --> 00:40:31.769
No. A little disclaimer. I did go through and

00:40:31.769 --> 00:40:34.989
play most of the levels on my Sega Saturn emulator.

00:40:35.289 --> 00:40:37.530
But for the most part, I was playing the PC port

00:40:37.530 --> 00:40:38.989
of this game. Which, by the way, just for the

00:40:38.989 --> 00:40:41.030
record, really the only difference is that it

00:40:41.030 --> 00:40:43.800
just looks better. Yeah, they're identical. It

00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:45.940
doesn't have the Sonic mode, so... But I did

00:40:45.940 --> 00:40:48.340
play the Christmas Lights and the Dreams. For

00:40:48.340 --> 00:40:49.739
whatever reason, it just doesn't have the Sonic

00:40:49.739 --> 00:40:51.619
mode. Well, the Sonic mode's only on the Christmas.

00:40:52.340 --> 00:40:55.400
Yeah. Well, Christmas Lights and the Dreams is

00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.199
in the PC port. Yeah, they ported it into the

00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:58.900
PC. But it doesn't have the Sonic mode for some

00:40:58.900 --> 00:41:02.260
reason. Okay. Yeah, no, it's weird. I was just

00:41:02.260 --> 00:41:04.539
saying, because as Sonic mode, you have to, like,

00:41:04.539 --> 00:41:06.340
run around the map like you would with the girl

00:41:06.340 --> 00:41:08.900
and then collect all the orbs and then kill the

00:41:08.900 --> 00:41:12.960
things. It's basically like that, so... Which

00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:16.760
I think this predated some of the 3D Sonic stuff.

00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:18.940
This is the first appearance of Sonic on the

00:41:18.940 --> 00:41:22.480
Saturn. Yeah. When was Jam? After this. Yeah,

00:41:23.179 --> 00:41:26.579
okay. Sonic 3D Blast after this. Really? Yeah.

00:41:26.619 --> 00:41:29.480
Oh, for the Saturn? Yep. But this wasn't... Because

00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.280
the one on the Genesis was before this, right?

00:41:31.420 --> 00:41:34.699
I don't think so. I think they came out at the

00:41:34.699 --> 00:41:36.579
same time. You'd have to double check that. I

00:41:36.579 --> 00:41:39.599
don't know. Sonic 3D? Sonic 3D Blast. And then

00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:42.659
there's Sonic 3D Blast Flicky's Island. 3D Blast

00:41:42.659 --> 00:41:45.579
was 96. Yeah, so probably right after this game.

00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.920
Oh, that's right. This was on the Saturn, wasn't

00:41:47.920 --> 00:41:52.420
it? Yeah. November 96. For Sonic 3D Blast? Mm

00:41:52.420 --> 00:41:55.300
-hmm. Yeah, so it was after this. So this is

00:41:55.300 --> 00:41:59.679
the first 3D Sega? 3D Sonic, yep. That's kind

00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:02.239
of cool. Anything else about gameplay? Anything

00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:04.860
else about controls? I think we covered it. I

00:42:04.860 --> 00:42:07.159
will say just real quick, like I said before,

00:42:07.380 --> 00:42:12.090
they actually worked with the hardware. people

00:42:12.090 --> 00:42:14.929
at sega to make a controller for this game because

00:42:14.929 --> 00:42:16.630
they felt like the d -pad wasn't good enough

00:42:16.630 --> 00:42:19.730
and they made an analog controller uh for this

00:42:19.730 --> 00:42:22.670
game maybe maybe that might make the game better

00:42:22.670 --> 00:42:24.969
no i use the analog it doesn't make it better

00:42:24.969 --> 00:42:28.989
yeah but you used emulation this analog controller

00:42:28.989 --> 00:42:32.789
doesn't make a difference i don't know bro analog's

00:42:32.789 --> 00:42:35.050
all the same i don't know i can use an old analog

00:42:35.050 --> 00:42:37.010
and tell me how the sega sata controllers are

00:42:37.010 --> 00:42:40.340
probably Have you actually held one of those

00:42:40.340 --> 00:42:42.179
controllers? I haven't held it, but I know they

00:42:42.179 --> 00:42:46.300
look awful. It's ridiculous. It's one of the

00:42:46.300 --> 00:42:57.900
most uncomfortable controllers ever. So let's

00:42:57.900 --> 00:43:01.260
go ahead and jump over to graphics. This is actually

00:43:01.260 --> 00:43:03.239
one of the parts of the game I'll praise. This

00:43:03.239 --> 00:43:05.000
actually looks pretty good for an old 3D game.

00:43:05.539 --> 00:43:06.820
I'm actually impressed. It's pretty good looking.

00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:12.960
Yeah. The colors are very popping. Yeah, and

00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:15.059
like I said, the one thing I do like about this

00:43:15.059 --> 00:43:17.639
game is that they created an entire 3D map and

00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:19.880
then put the 2D courses throughout that map.

00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.900
I actually really like that idea because you

00:43:22.900 --> 00:43:25.639
can see other parts of the courses while you're

00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:27.719
playing through the game and the entire map is

00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.579
just like one cohesive area. I really like that

00:43:30.579 --> 00:43:34.199
idea. When you are selecting a level 2, you can...

00:43:34.650 --> 00:43:36.710
if you don't hit like the play button there's

00:43:36.710 --> 00:43:38.670
another button you can press and it'll show you

00:43:38.670 --> 00:43:41.510
the whole course yeah that's true which is actually

00:43:41.510 --> 00:43:45.170
really cool it shows you the path and everything

00:43:45.170 --> 00:43:47.230
and what what connects to what it's actually

00:43:47.230 --> 00:43:49.329
really cool yeah on the map that was neat yeah

00:43:49.329 --> 00:43:52.989
this almost reminds me of the sonic it's like

00:43:52.989 --> 00:43:56.269
speed levels that they had and what was that

00:43:56.269 --> 00:43:58.269
three you're talking about the two player sphere

00:43:58.269 --> 00:44:01.010
oh that the blue spheres is that what you're

00:44:01.010 --> 00:44:03.550
talking about No, no, the time attack thing that

00:44:03.550 --> 00:44:05.590
they had in, what was that? That was 3, wasn't

00:44:05.590 --> 00:44:06.949
it? Where you could, like, they had, like, the

00:44:06.949 --> 00:44:09.550
miniature course things that you would run through,

00:44:09.630 --> 00:44:11.730
and you had to see how fast you could do it.

00:44:12.530 --> 00:44:14.730
I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm

00:44:14.730 --> 00:44:16.929
sorry. Bro, we spent hours doing that. What are

00:44:16.929 --> 00:44:18.250
you talking about? Are we talking about the blue

00:44:18.250 --> 00:44:20.170
balls that you had to collect? Oh, I think he's

00:44:20.170 --> 00:44:22.710
talking about the competition levels. Yeah. Oh,

00:44:22.730 --> 00:44:25.869
the two -player mode thing? Yeah, okay. I don't

00:44:25.869 --> 00:44:26.989
see how that relates at all. Well, you could

00:44:26.989 --> 00:44:30.630
do it single -player. No? Yeah, whatever. I have

00:44:30.630 --> 00:44:32.829
no idea what you're talking about, dude. I think

00:44:32.829 --> 00:44:34.130
I know what he's talking about. I think he's

00:44:34.130 --> 00:44:35.510
talking about the competition levels from 3.

00:44:36.329 --> 00:44:39.809
The two player mode. Yeah, competition two player.

00:44:39.989 --> 00:44:42.469
Okay. How does that relate to this? I don't understand

00:44:42.469 --> 00:44:44.150
how that relates to this. Because there's like

00:44:44.150 --> 00:44:47.429
little courses of parts of like a level and you

00:44:47.429 --> 00:44:53.769
have to run through them. Okay. Anyway. No, like

00:44:53.769 --> 00:44:55.670
you had to like speed through them like how this

00:44:55.670 --> 00:44:59.039
is. The time attack mode. You don't remember

00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:00.880
the time attack mode? I did like it. It also

00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:03.019
had extra characters flying around in the background.

00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:05.920
They had those little... I don't remember what

00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:08.960
they called. Nopians or something? Nightopians.

00:45:09.420 --> 00:45:11.739
Nightopians. And you could like hatch them and

00:45:11.739 --> 00:45:14.320
stuff? Yeah. That's weird. There's a whole thing

00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:16.500
I want to talk about with that later. Yeah, I

00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:19.000
thought the... I will give this game the graphics

00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:20.400
are actually... Especially for like an old 3D

00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.059
game because a lot of times they don't age very

00:45:22.059 --> 00:45:23.639
well. I feel like this game actually aged pretty

00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:26.980
well. Yeah, definitely. I think the working with

00:45:26.980 --> 00:45:29.159
the 2D, with the 3D background actually worked

00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.719
out pretty well for it. It has nice depth to

00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:34.440
it. It does, it looks nice. I think that's something

00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:36.619
Sonic Team really gets. If you play the old Genesis

00:45:36.619 --> 00:45:40.000
Sonic games, you'll see everything's 2D, but

00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.619
there's things that just pop out to you. Yeah,

00:45:42.659 --> 00:45:45.239
they have good backgrounds and stuff. Sonic 3

00:45:45.239 --> 00:45:48.480
had these little... They had these sprites that

00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:51.699
looked 3D, but they're completely 2D. The blue

00:45:51.699 --> 00:45:54.550
sphere levels, again... From what I know, it's

00:45:54.550 --> 00:45:56.909
completely 2D, but it's made in such a way that

00:45:56.909 --> 00:45:59.989
it tricks your eyes into thinking it's 3D. I

00:45:59.989 --> 00:46:03.050
think that's the same thing that Donkey Kong

00:46:03.050 --> 00:46:05.489
Country does. It's pre -rendered 3D graphics

00:46:05.489 --> 00:46:08.570
that they put into 2D. I think that's how that

00:46:08.570 --> 00:46:11.190
works. I agree. I think it looks pretty good.

00:46:11.530 --> 00:46:16.570
The cutscenes are, since they're cartoony enough,

00:46:16.690 --> 00:46:18.230
they don't look too bad either. They actually

00:46:18.230 --> 00:46:20.769
look pretty decent. I don't think they look that

00:46:20.769 --> 00:46:23.880
great. Yeah, I mean, they're definitely not as

00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.159
good, but I feel like since they're cartoony

00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:28.159
enough that they weren't trying to go for realism,

00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:32.519
they actually aged okay. So Sega, Nights into

00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:35.179
Dreams is one of the few Saturn games that has

00:46:35.179 --> 00:46:37.280
widescreen support, and I think it's actually

00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.559
kind of cool how it works. So what it does is

00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:44.360
it actually just squishes a bunch of widescreen

00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:47.500
elements into a 4x3 screen, and you fix it by

00:46:47.500 --> 00:46:51.239
just stretching it onto your widescreen TV. I

00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:53.440
think that's pretty cool. It's called an anamorphic

00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:58.619
white screen because the Sega Saturn's max resolution

00:46:58.619 --> 00:47:01.559
doesn't go past four by three. So that's how

00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:03.639
they did stuff like that, which I just I think

00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:06.519
it's pretty cool. Broke also had that. So I just

00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:08.019
wanted to bring it up. I thought it neat. Yeah,

00:47:08.059 --> 00:47:10.460
that's interesting. It's pretty cool. The technology

00:47:10.460 --> 00:47:23.599
that they use to work with. Sound effects, music.

00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:27.059
It's pretty good. It's like a nice upbeat music.

00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:31.340
I mean, Sonic Team. They always make good music.

00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:36.340
It's good. Very fitting for this game. True.

00:47:36.460 --> 00:47:40.559
Very orchestral. They're definitely using the

00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:44.519
new CD technology to make their music. It's got

00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:48.699
them sonic noises. I don't know if... I have

00:47:48.699 --> 00:47:51.659
the CD soundtrack of this game on my computer

00:47:51.659 --> 00:47:57.659
and on my phone, but apparently the complete

00:47:57.659 --> 00:47:59.900
versions of some of the songs that play throughout

00:47:59.900 --> 00:48:03.179
this game are nearly 10 minutes long. I think

00:48:03.179 --> 00:48:04.940
they're only, I don't know, maybe 4 minutes in

00:48:04.940 --> 00:48:07.460
the actual game. I thought that was just interesting

00:48:07.460 --> 00:48:11.199
that there's an extra 6 minutes of... you know

00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:12.940
completely new parts of the song that you just

00:48:12.940 --> 00:48:14.219
don't hear when you're playing the game they

00:48:14.219 --> 00:48:16.199
just cut it out which i get why i'm sure they

00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:18.940
had to fit everything on uh you know the sega

00:48:18.940 --> 00:48:20.639
saturn cd i thought you're supposed to be running

00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:25.420
out the clock bro you'll be running out the disc

00:48:25.420 --> 00:48:28.719
space i'm sorry you cut out fill it up i said

00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:29.780
i thought you're supposed to be running out the

00:48:29.780 --> 00:48:34.039
clock bro oh yeah that's true i mean i guess

00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:36.119
it makes sense why it's that way then okay go

00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:39.159
ahead but Yeah, I mean, it's pretty good. There's

00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:40.159
not too much to talk about. The sound effects

00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:41.719
actually are not... There's actually not a ton

00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.159
of sound effects in this game that I can think

00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:46.940
of. There is one thing, though... Well, I'll

00:48:46.940 --> 00:48:48.400
come back to that in a minute, too, but... Alright,

00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:49.900
anything else about the music? I didn't really

00:48:49.900 --> 00:48:51.780
listen to it too much, honestly. It was fine.

00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.860
Yeah, I meant to go through the soundtrack, because

00:48:53.860 --> 00:48:56.659
it is... Some of it's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:00.880
I really like it, actually. There's only, like,

00:49:00.900 --> 00:49:03.599
what, six worlds anyway, so... Yeah, but, dude,

00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:06.980
there's a ton. I mean, cause I think every boss

00:49:06.980 --> 00:49:08.860
has their own music. Every stage has their own

00:49:08.860 --> 00:49:11.780
music. There's the, uh, there's the song that

00:49:11.780 --> 00:49:13.900
plays after you beat a boss. There's a song that

00:49:13.900 --> 00:49:17.340
plays, uh, after you beat or like after you beat

00:49:17.340 --> 00:49:19.840
the boss and it goes back to the, uh, like it

00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.739
shows you playing through the, the, the dream

00:49:22.739 --> 00:49:25.000
that you just went through. Yeah. There's, um,

00:49:25.139 --> 00:49:27.219
there's nights into dreams. It's theme song.

00:49:27.300 --> 00:49:29.920
It's called dreams, dreams. So I think if I remember

00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.199
correctly, this, the soundtrack is split across

00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:36.780
three CDs. I can. Wow. check real quick i mean

00:49:36.780 --> 00:49:38.679
you know you know sonic team is when it comes

00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:40.679
to this shit they don't mess around with that

00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:42.500
music they don't mess around with that music

00:49:42.500 --> 00:49:44.639
that's right they need to not mess around with

00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:48.199
their fucking gameplay yeah it's it's uh it's

00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:51.559
three cds they haven't been known for that oh

00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:56.900
okay i think i think uh the third disc okay they

00:49:56.900 --> 00:49:59.380
have like instrumentals and oh there's also the

00:49:59.380 --> 00:50:03.199
events it also has the christmas nights music

00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:06.800
along with uh Krimis. Sonic and Christmas Nights.

00:50:16.679 --> 00:50:20.519
That's a lot. I have a couple last minute things

00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:21.699
I want to talk about. Does anybody else have

00:50:21.699 --> 00:50:24.260
anything about Nights into Dreams before we move

00:50:24.260 --> 00:50:27.960
on? Just the Krimis stuff. Krimis. There's just

00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:29.239
a couple things I want to mention. One thing

00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:31.340
is that this game does have a two -player mode,

00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.199
which when you beat Riala, which is one of the

00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:37.559
bosses, which is kind of like Knight's, I don't

00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.519
know, shadow person, I guess. Evil counterpart.

00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:40.840
Yeah, evil counterpart. I mean, they're both

00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:44.639
Nightmarians, but... Right. Yeah, she's the bad

00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.780
one. There's a two -player mode where you basically

00:50:46.780 --> 00:50:50.360
just fight each other. You have to do... What

00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:51.940
do you call it? Paraloop attacks against each

00:50:51.940 --> 00:50:54.019
other and stuff. I mean, it's a simple thing,

00:50:54.099 --> 00:50:55.440
but it's cool that they added that in there to

00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.980
have that. I played it a little bit. I mean,

00:50:57.980 --> 00:50:59.800
I didn't play it, but I tried it out for a little

00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.360
bit. So it's a cool little thing to have in there.

00:51:02.780 --> 00:51:04.139
The other thing, too, I wanted to mention is

00:51:04.139 --> 00:51:05.800
that the high score names are Sonic characters,

00:51:05.940 --> 00:51:08.340
which I thought was a funny little Easter egg

00:51:08.340 --> 00:51:10.380
in there. I didn't mess with it too much either,

00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:12.420
but if you use different save slots, they're

00:51:12.420 --> 00:51:15.300
all different names. Oh, really? Yeah, I only

00:51:15.300 --> 00:51:18.039
seen two. Yeah, I didn't know that. The first

00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:20.460
one's Knights, and then I only seen one other

00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:23.780
one. Yeah, yeah. So I know some fans of both.

00:51:24.480 --> 00:51:27.500
knights and sonic have mentioned how uh there's

00:51:27.500 --> 00:51:30.519
like two things about this game that seem to

00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.320
mirror future sonic games and that is so yeah

00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:35.920
you know knights has like an evil counterpart

00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:40.019
it's like red and black and you know uh knights

00:51:40.019 --> 00:51:42.679
is kind of blue and it's like you know reala

00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:45.179
might be like shadow and knights might be like

00:51:45.179 --> 00:51:48.239
sonic so um and speaking of that people compare

00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:51.519
weisman's design you know the nightmare and nightmare

00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:54.050
in the The final boss. The final boss, right,

00:51:54.110 --> 00:51:56.230
yeah. They compare him to Black Doom from Shadow

00:51:56.230 --> 00:51:58.289
of the Hedgehog, and dude, they look pretty damn

00:51:58.289 --> 00:52:01.789
close. This is especially true if you play Journey

00:52:01.789 --> 00:52:04.570
of Dreams. I mean, they're pretty damn similar.

00:52:05.010 --> 00:52:06.389
Yeah, I mean, there's definitely similarities,

00:52:06.530 --> 00:52:08.389
I'm sure. It's made by the same people, so I

00:52:08.389 --> 00:52:12.510
could see that. In the Sonic mode, that fat boss,

00:52:12.670 --> 00:52:15.389
the round one, is Dr. Robotnik. Oh, really? That's

00:52:15.389 --> 00:52:18.050
pretty funny. Okay, one last thing I'd like to

00:52:18.050 --> 00:52:19.829
say about Knights is there's actually an entire,

00:52:19.989 --> 00:52:23.639
like... life simulator in this game it's called

00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:26.099
a life so those little night topians that are

00:52:26.099 --> 00:52:29.300
flowing flying around um you can actually interact

00:52:29.300 --> 00:52:31.460
with them while you're playing the game and you

00:52:31.460 --> 00:52:34.039
can change their mood according to how you treat

00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:36.099
them so if you attack them they'll start to get

00:52:36.099 --> 00:52:40.079
angry um you can like the more eggs you like

00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:41.840
hatchers like eggs you can hatch which will make

00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:45.070
them happy you can make them scared and there's

00:52:45.070 --> 00:52:46.789
one other one that i forgot that you can do but

00:52:46.789 --> 00:52:48.250
you can like interact with them and the more

00:52:48.250 --> 00:52:50.269
you play replay levels and stuff the more they'll

00:52:50.269 --> 00:52:53.670
appear in those levels and um one of the things

00:52:53.670 --> 00:52:55.530
it'll do is actually change the music in the

00:52:55.530 --> 00:52:57.710
level it doesn't change it too much it just adds

00:52:57.710 --> 00:53:00.030
a little bit here and there so it's weird there's

00:53:00.030 --> 00:53:02.110
this entire just like simulator thing in this

00:53:02.110 --> 00:53:04.809
game that like a lot of people didn't know about

00:53:04.809 --> 00:53:07.750
until recently on top of that there's this thing

00:53:07.750 --> 00:53:10.610
that you can do if i forgot exactly what you

00:53:10.610 --> 00:53:13.440
have to do you have to like merge a Nightopian

00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.980
and a Nightmarian together somehow and there's

00:53:16.980 --> 00:53:20.460
like a small chance that that will create a King

00:53:20.460 --> 00:53:25.119
Peon and then these King Peons will start to

00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:27.119
build a castle in the level and the more you

00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:29.360
play the level the more the castle will be built

00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:31.659
and then he'll actually help you attack other

00:53:31.659 --> 00:53:36.179
enemies. What? Yes. Yeah, this entire thing is

00:53:36.179 --> 00:53:38.900
built into this game. It's really weird and I'm

00:53:38.900 --> 00:53:40.559
surprised that none of the achievements that

00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:42.820
we're about to talk about like included any of

00:53:42.820 --> 00:53:45.340
that in there thank god they didn't because it

00:53:45.340 --> 00:53:48.360
sounds like it's a lot of work yeah it's crazy

00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:50.820
that there's this entire kind of like meta game

00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:54.860
in this game uh so it seems like they should

00:53:54.860 --> 00:53:56.820
have spent less time on that and actually worked

00:53:56.820 --> 00:54:00.519
on the actual game but yeah you know it's funny

00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:02.400
you mentioned that thing about dream topians

00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.340
because there's a oh that kind of sounds like

00:54:04.340 --> 00:54:06.769
the chow garden which was in Sonic Adventure

00:54:06.769 --> 00:54:10.690
2. True. It's very true. It's funny because Journey

00:54:10.690 --> 00:54:13.510
of Dreams actually has a mode that's just like

00:54:13.510 --> 00:54:15.550
that where you take care of the Dreamtopians.

00:54:15.670 --> 00:54:17.969
Yeah. And I mean their design is kind of similar

00:54:17.969 --> 00:54:19.909
too. I just thought that was a weird thing. Just

00:54:19.909 --> 00:54:22.849
something to mention is it's entire other thing

00:54:22.849 --> 00:54:24.530
that you could be doing instead of actually playing

00:54:24.530 --> 00:54:27.250
the game. And then yeah we wanted to talk about

00:54:27.250 --> 00:54:29.769
so there was like a demo that was released for

00:54:29.769 --> 00:54:32.110
this game where they took just I think just the

00:54:32.110 --> 00:54:33.730
first level and they turned it into like a Christmas

00:54:33.730 --> 00:54:37.119
theme. It was called Christmas Nights into Dreams.

00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:40.420
I didn't even play it, so Eric and Jacob, you

00:54:40.420 --> 00:54:42.539
guys can talk about it if you want. I thought

00:54:42.539 --> 00:54:44.780
the Christmas one looked way better than the

00:54:44.780 --> 00:54:47.719
regular one. It does look nice, yeah. It's very,

00:54:47.820 --> 00:54:52.719
like, appeasing. The rings look more like wreaths.

00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:56.800
Yeah. And it's snowing, and it's got, like, Christmas

00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:59.320
music playing, like, you know, in the style of

00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:02.539
the game's music. yeah we'll see man this game's

00:55:02.539 --> 00:55:05.019
atmosphere was pretty good i i do give a props

00:55:05.019 --> 00:55:07.179
for that it did a good job on that so i can see

00:55:07.179 --> 00:55:09.500
how a christmas theme would be dude it's pretty

00:55:09.500 --> 00:55:11.099
good i think it's way better looking i think

00:55:11.099 --> 00:55:13.199
it's so cool and then like the little uh alien

00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:15.219
dudes are like christmas trees and stuff yeah

00:55:15.219 --> 00:55:18.360
nice it's pretty cool man it's actually a very

00:55:18.360 --> 00:55:21.019
i thought it was fun like a nice fun addition

00:55:21.019 --> 00:55:23.679
and then on top of christmas you can play as

00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.070
reala in there which is only on april 1st Yeah,

00:55:27.110 --> 00:55:28.670
I know they have, like, certain dates. There's

00:55:28.670 --> 00:55:30.989
a whole, like, a clock system. Yeah, yeah. We

00:55:30.989 --> 00:55:33.570
should have brought that up. And then... Well,

00:55:33.590 --> 00:55:35.550
I think that's only in the Christmas one. Yeah,

00:55:35.570 --> 00:55:37.570
it's just on the Christmas one. No, I'm pretty

00:55:37.570 --> 00:55:40.289
sure, like, on regular Nights into Dreams, if

00:55:40.289 --> 00:55:45.210
you... No, there's nowhere to set the time. The

00:55:45.210 --> 00:55:48.409
Saturn doesn't have that on its BIOS? Well, just...

00:55:48.409 --> 00:55:51.269
Go ahead. The Saturn might, but the Christmas

00:55:51.269 --> 00:55:53.429
into Dreams has it, like, actually in the game.

00:55:53.570 --> 00:55:55.429
Yeah, the game, you have to actually, like, set

00:55:55.429 --> 00:55:57.969
it yourself. I actually, the first time I did

00:55:57.969 --> 00:56:01.489
it, I set it to the date it was, but I had to

00:56:01.489 --> 00:56:05.590
go into my computer and change it to set the

00:56:05.590 --> 00:56:09.750
game clock. Which, it was fine. But Nights into

00:56:09.750 --> 00:56:11.949
Dreams does have that seasonal stuff, no? You

00:56:11.949 --> 00:56:14.469
just had to change Saturn's bios? I don't think

00:56:14.469 --> 00:56:17.630
so. I don't think so. I think it was just Christmas

00:56:17.630 --> 00:56:20.440
Nights into Dreams. Well, the remaster has that.

00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:22.460
That's why I'm saying. Yeah, I'm sure the remaster

00:56:22.460 --> 00:56:24.559
put all that stuff together. They put that in

00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:27.739
there, yeah. Because you can just play Nights

00:56:27.739 --> 00:56:29.719
into Dreams on the remaster, and if it's on a

00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:32.579
certain date, you'll get certain costumes. So

00:56:32.579 --> 00:56:36.099
that's why I say that. If you do it during the

00:56:36.099 --> 00:56:41.420
summer, Elliot and Claris still have swimsuits

00:56:41.420 --> 00:56:45.460
on, like swimwear. I think that was added, dude,

00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:47.820
because I don't think regular Nights has that.

00:56:48.170 --> 00:56:50.369
I just want to say one more thing. I think there's...

00:56:50.369 --> 00:56:53.110
There was supposed to be, like, a Halloween Nights

00:56:53.110 --> 00:56:55.150
as well, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, that would

00:56:55.150 --> 00:56:58.449
have been cool. I think there's code for it,

00:56:58.469 --> 00:57:00.230
or there's code and a little bit of assets of

00:57:00.230 --> 00:57:01.909
it in Christmas Nights and Dreams, if I'm not

00:57:01.909 --> 00:57:05.590
mistaken. So, yeah. Yeah, I think there's, like,

00:57:05.630 --> 00:57:09.110
a Halloween suit for Clarice and Elliot. Nice.

00:57:09.110 --> 00:57:11.530
And there's, like, pieces of code, I think, that

00:57:11.530 --> 00:57:16.230
mention it. Oh, I think there's also a remix

00:57:16.230 --> 00:57:20.380
of... the first level that's like halloween theme

00:57:20.380 --> 00:57:22.900
if i'm not mistaken that might have been in the

00:57:22.900 --> 00:57:25.320
remaster i'm not sure i forgot yeah that wasn't

00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:28.420
in any of this but another cool another cool

00:57:28.420 --> 00:57:30.420
aspect with the christmas nights and the dreams

00:57:30.420 --> 00:57:35.079
was um after you completed a level you were brought

00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:38.179
to like this tile matching screen and they were

00:57:38.179 --> 00:57:41.340
called presents and you had to match two tiles

00:57:41.340 --> 00:57:44.079
to get the present and that's basically how you

00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.860
got the time attack mode the the combo mode and

00:57:47.860 --> 00:57:49.800
that's how you unlock sonic mode and stuff like

00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:53.400
that yeah yeah and then you can like run around

00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:56.099
a sonic in that level yeah yeah yeah which i

00:57:56.099 --> 00:57:58.059
thought it was like a cool addition to add to

00:57:58.059 --> 00:58:00.619
like you know get you to keep playing and it

00:58:00.619 --> 00:58:03.199
was just a nice reward system i thought sure

00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:07.219
yeah yeah so i actually feel like this demo was

00:58:07.219 --> 00:58:11.269
kind of had had a decent amount of stuff in it

00:58:11.269 --> 00:58:13.349
for for a game that they were just given out

00:58:13.349 --> 00:58:17.710
that's how it used to be man well from what i

00:58:17.710 --> 00:58:20.510
heard you had to you just had to pay the shipping

00:58:20.510 --> 00:58:22.230
on the game or something like that but the game

00:58:22.230 --> 00:58:25.949
was free so yeah but i feel like yeah i feel

00:58:25.949 --> 00:58:27.849
like there was actually a decent amount of stuff

00:58:27.849 --> 00:58:30.170
that was in this game cool so i guess if you

00:58:30.170 --> 00:58:31.849
like the first one play the set play the demo

00:58:31.849 --> 00:58:43.849
yeah Now we're going to go ahead and jump over

00:58:43.849 --> 00:58:47.670
to the achievements. So this game has 22 achievements

00:58:47.670 --> 00:58:52.590
worth 215 points. Did you guys master this game?

00:58:52.869 --> 00:58:57.309
I sure did. No, I didn't either. I have no interest

00:58:57.309 --> 00:59:00.849
in doing so. It's really not that bad. It is.

00:59:00.869 --> 00:59:02.869
This game is really good too. That's how I feel

00:59:02.869 --> 00:59:09.650
like Rulerosa. Jacob, did you get A ranks on

00:59:09.650 --> 00:59:14.679
every level? Just two I didn't. I got B rank

00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:17.320
for them. Dang, bro, you stink. I mean, as much

00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:20.500
as I like this game, I don't know. I didn't really

00:59:20.500 --> 00:59:22.820
feel... Well, I was also playing Journey of Dreams,

00:59:22.980 --> 00:59:24.619
so I was like, I can continue playing Journey

00:59:24.619 --> 00:59:26.659
of Dreams or get A rank and into Dreams, and

00:59:26.659 --> 00:59:28.340
I was like, yeah, I'll just keep playing Journey

00:59:28.340 --> 00:59:31.320
of Dreams. Yeah, okay, okay. So what do you think

00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:34.119
was the toughest achievement then, Eric? One

00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:39.300
or two, bro. The stupid acrobatic one or the

00:59:39.300 --> 00:59:43.510
cross -leaf one. Yeah, I've seen both of those.

00:59:43.530 --> 00:59:44.869
That cross -leaf looks like it was a bitch to

00:59:44.869 --> 00:59:48.050
do. It took me a minute. You have to just learn

00:59:48.050 --> 00:59:51.630
how to do it. But even then, it's still weird.

00:59:52.369 --> 00:59:54.889
But the A rankings, once I figured out how to

00:59:54.889 --> 00:59:59.849
get the score to the points that you basically

00:59:59.849 --> 01:00:04.530
need, it's not too bad. I thought that banish

01:00:04.530 --> 01:00:06.449
the gilwing one was going to be a pain in the

01:00:06.449 --> 01:00:10.739
ass. I somehow accidentally did it. and then

01:00:10.739 --> 01:00:13.079
i played the i played christmas a couple times

01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:14.500
and that's the only boss that's in there and

01:00:14.500 --> 01:00:16.599
i did it like two or three more times okay okay

01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:19.179
it's doable it's just you gotta like set it up

01:00:19.179 --> 01:00:21.440
just right yeah and you mastered that too didn't

01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:25.079
you the christmas yeah yeah which is that's pretty

01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:26.880
easy that means you're caught up to me now that's

01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:30.159
not good ah somewhat i would say well you got

01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:33.860
32 32 now yeah but like three of those are like

01:00:33.860 --> 01:00:36.480
demo games yeah i guess so The number's still

01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:39.280
the same. The number's the same, but you're ahead

01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:42.860
of me. Alright, anyway. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed

01:00:42.860 --> 01:00:48.639
of what I have. Anyway. I need to get that Wild

01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:50.400
Woody right. Yeah, you gotta go back and get

01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:52.239
that Wild Woody. I know, I gotta go back and

01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:53.780
do it. I gotta get Demon's Crest. I gotta finish

01:00:53.780 --> 01:00:56.599
that one. Dude, that was a hard set. Yeah, I

01:00:56.599 --> 01:00:57.579
know. I wanna go back and finish that. That was

01:00:57.579 --> 01:01:01.119
a hard set. Anyway, so even though I didn't finish

01:01:01.119 --> 01:01:02.900
this, I would say, would you agree this is kind

01:01:02.900 --> 01:01:06.500
of a moderate set? Yeah, it's not that bad. It's

01:01:06.500 --> 01:01:09.880
not hard, but it's not easy either. It's on the

01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:14.980
easier side, but yeah, it's not a gimme. It's

01:01:14.980 --> 01:01:18.219
straightforward, yeah. Yeah, it's not a gimme

01:01:18.219 --> 01:01:20.099
though. You do have to put some effort into this.

01:01:20.260 --> 01:01:23.280
Okay, that's achievements. So let's go ahead

01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:25.579
and head over to the final verdict for Knights

01:01:25.579 --> 01:02:28.989
of the Dreams. Okay, here we are at the final

01:02:28.989 --> 01:02:31.010
verdict. We don't use scores or numbering. We

01:02:31.010 --> 01:02:33.269
use a very simple system. Did you enjoy the game,

01:02:33.349 --> 01:02:36.510
and would you recommend the game? And so, who

01:02:36.510 --> 01:02:39.030
wants to go first? You know what? I'll go ahead

01:02:39.030 --> 01:02:43.050
and go first. Did I enjoy this game? Hell to

01:02:43.050 --> 01:02:47.949
the nah -nah. And this is the first and only

01:02:47.949 --> 01:02:51.110
time, gentlemen. Yeah. I think so, yeah. No,

01:02:51.170 --> 01:02:53.429
I don't think I said I enjoyed Survival Kids,

01:02:53.550 --> 01:02:56.860
I think. Yeah, but you didn't say hell no, though.

01:02:56.940 --> 01:02:58.679
No, not like this. This is a moment in history.

01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:00.780
I don't know what it is, man. I just, I could

01:03:00.780 --> 01:03:03.159
not get into this game. I don't know what it

01:03:03.159 --> 01:03:07.019
is. The controls, the style of gameplay, just

01:03:07.019 --> 01:03:09.940
the idea, it just did not mesh for me, and I

01:03:09.940 --> 01:03:13.059
just could not figure this game out. Part of

01:03:13.059 --> 01:03:14.880
the problem was just trying to, like... Like

01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:16.719
I said, the courses were so open -ended, just

01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:19.880
trying to find the line was not fun for me. Figuring

01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:21.840
out the idea of, like, running the clock out,

01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:24.280
but being quick, I don't know, they just don't

01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:26.139
mesh for me. I mean, the graphics look good,

01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:29.300
the music's good, all that's nice, but just something

01:03:29.300 --> 01:03:33.179
about this game I could not get into. So, I just

01:03:33.179 --> 01:03:36.179
didn't enjoy this game. And I wouldn't recommend

01:03:36.179 --> 01:03:39.969
it either. It's just... Like I said, I don't

01:03:39.969 --> 01:03:42.269
know what the idea behind this game was. I don't

01:03:42.269 --> 01:03:44.030
understand who it was made for, what they were

01:03:44.030 --> 01:03:46.190
thinking. I just don't get this game. I don't

01:03:46.190 --> 01:03:49.849
get it. So I wouldn't recommend it. That's for

01:03:49.849 --> 01:03:54.309
me. I think I did enjoy the game. It took me

01:03:54.309 --> 01:03:57.130
a minute to realize what was going on and what

01:03:57.130 --> 01:04:01.429
I needed to do. And at the time, I was like,

01:04:01.510 --> 01:04:03.369
the first time I played this, I'm like, I don't

01:04:03.369 --> 01:04:07.019
want to play this game again. But I forced myself

01:04:07.019 --> 01:04:09.460
and then I was like, okay, now I understand what

01:04:09.460 --> 01:04:13.199
I need to do. And I just kept learning the courses

01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.099
and playing it more and more and more. And then

01:04:15.099 --> 01:04:19.679
I started to enjoy it a lot more. So I think

01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:23.239
this, it has its own charm. There's not really

01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:26.619
too many games that are like this. I don't think

01:04:26.619 --> 01:04:29.599
there's any other game like this, is there? The

01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:31.719
second one on the week. Well, I mean, like other

01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:36.900
than Knights, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of its own

01:04:36.900 --> 01:04:41.179
genre, I guess. I think it was fun. Like I said,

01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:43.639
once you start learning the courses and learning

01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:45.480
what you need to do to get a higher score and

01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.840
stuff like that, it starts to come together.

01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:53.139
Okay, would you recommend it? I think so. I guess

01:04:53.139 --> 01:04:56.619
if you're a big Sonic fan, then it's definitely

01:04:56.619 --> 01:05:01.099
worth your time. I see online that this is a

01:05:01.099 --> 01:05:04.119
lot of people. It suggests that this is one of

01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:06.039
the best games of all time. They're all out of

01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:08.860
their fucking mind. I would not go that far.

01:05:10.260 --> 01:05:13.199
It's a decent game, but I wouldn't say they're

01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:15.679
good. It's not even close. It's a decent game.

01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:19.059
For me, it was playable. It had its own charm.

01:05:19.300 --> 01:05:21.199
The music is great. Like you said, the graphics

01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:24.719
are good. Once you get used to the gameplay,

01:05:25.099 --> 01:05:28.360
it's fun. Yeah, I think I would recommend it.

01:05:29.860 --> 01:05:33.550
Okay. That's one against one. Ryan, go ahead.

01:05:34.110 --> 01:05:38.570
Oh, man. That's two against one. Yeah, dude.

01:05:38.690 --> 01:05:41.889
I did not enjoy this game. I agree with Joe.

01:05:41.969 --> 01:05:44.829
I don't know who thought of this idea, who it

01:05:44.829 --> 01:05:49.389
was supposed to be for, and just why. I don't

01:05:49.389 --> 01:05:52.070
know. They had a good formula with Sonic. I don't

01:05:52.070 --> 01:05:56.789
know why I just didn't stay with that. I don't

01:05:56.789 --> 01:06:00.519
know. The gameplay is just very convoluted. I

01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:03.079
can get one side that you want to do as much

01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:05.719
as you can in the time that you're given, but

01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:08.059
I also don't understand why you get penalized

01:06:08.059 --> 01:06:11.199
for not beating the level faster. I don't know

01:06:11.199 --> 01:06:15.360
why there isn't a time bonus. There is for killing

01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.639
the boss. For the boss, I understand, because

01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:19.900
what else are you going to do? Well, and then

01:06:19.900 --> 01:06:23.360
also for the little flying alien things. Yeah.

01:06:23.500 --> 01:06:25.440
There's a time bonus for that. Yeah. But after

01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:26.980
you kill those, you have to just run the course.

01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:28.920
What? Flying alien things? What are you talking

01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:33.889
about? What do you mean there's a score for that?

01:06:34.949 --> 01:06:37.789
If you kill those fast enough, you get an extra

01:06:37.789 --> 01:06:41.329
score. What's the point? I don't understand.

01:06:41.750 --> 01:06:44.730
To get an A ranking. But why kill them fast?

01:06:44.809 --> 01:06:46.949
I don't understand this game. Exactly is what

01:06:46.949 --> 01:06:49.630
I'm saying. Why kill them fast so you can get

01:06:49.630 --> 01:06:52.909
a higher score? The order of operations is convoluted.

01:06:53.050 --> 01:06:54.889
No, you can only kill them one time. Why not

01:06:54.889 --> 01:06:58.219
collect stuff faster? Bonus for that. That's

01:06:58.219 --> 01:07:03.139
exactly what I'm saying. There is a link. I don't

01:07:03.139 --> 01:07:07.780
get it. I don't know. It's not complicated. It's

01:07:07.780 --> 01:07:12.639
not complicated. It's just stupid. I don't think

01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.019
it's that stupid. I've played some stupid games

01:07:15.019 --> 01:07:18.219
and this ain't stupid. I don't understand it.

01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:22.829
They just have two opposing... mechanics. No,

01:07:22.909 --> 01:07:25.469
they don't. I don't know what these guys are

01:07:25.469 --> 01:07:30.690
talking about. I don't understand it. Would you

01:07:30.690 --> 01:07:34.510
recommend it, Ryan? No. Again, it's just one

01:07:34.510 --> 01:07:38.389
of those games. Why? I mean, I guess if you're

01:07:38.389 --> 01:07:42.489
a Sonic fan, maybe. I wouldn't. I'm just saying.

01:07:43.949 --> 01:07:46.989
I don't know. Even if you were a Sonic fan, you

01:07:46.989 --> 01:07:49.190
probably wouldn't like this game anyway. And

01:07:49.190 --> 01:07:52.079
this is not a Sonic game. It's got the references

01:07:52.079 --> 01:07:55.099
and everything, but it's... Agreed. I'm glad

01:07:55.099 --> 01:07:58.019
I'm not alone. All right, Jacob, your game. What

01:07:58.019 --> 01:07:59.860
do you say? It's a Wild Woody situation. Everything

01:07:59.860 --> 01:08:02.480
other than the gameplay was good, but... Don't

01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:04.500
even compare this game to Wild Woody. No, it's

01:08:04.500 --> 01:08:07.820
not close. I'm not saying it's like that. I'm

01:08:07.820 --> 01:08:09.960
saying the situation's like that. The gameplay

01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:12.880
is lacking, but everything else around it's...

01:08:13.050 --> 01:08:15.030
pretty decent. Wild Woody was way above this

01:08:15.030 --> 01:08:19.489
game. I agree. In your fucking dreams. Go ahead,

01:08:19.649 --> 01:08:26.050
Jacob. Did you enjoy this game? Yeah, I enjoyed

01:08:26.050 --> 01:08:29.109
this game a lot. I mean, it just gave me a rush.

01:08:29.210 --> 01:08:31.770
I love collecting all the little stars, defeating

01:08:31.770 --> 01:08:36.180
those little nightmare devices. Oh my god, it

01:08:36.180 --> 01:08:40.439
was so good to look at. I love the music. It's

01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:43.239
a very relaxing game, but it also knows how to

01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:47.220
pump you up. It's really not that hard. These

01:08:47.220 --> 01:08:49.560
losers just do not know how to play video games.

01:08:50.239 --> 01:08:57.659
I will agree, though. The bosses are a little

01:08:57.659 --> 01:08:59.859
too much. In my opinion, though, I only had a

01:08:59.859 --> 01:09:01.920
problem with Jackal. Jackal was the only one

01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:05.689
I fucking hated. I know. Jackal was... the cancer

01:09:05.689 --> 01:09:08.090
of this game otherwise i beat all the bosses

01:09:08.090 --> 01:09:12.789
first try so yeah so okay would you recommend

01:09:12.789 --> 01:09:16.850
it then yeah of course i would yeah it's it's

01:09:16.850 --> 01:09:19.170
a very fun game you're just flying around collecting

01:09:19.170 --> 01:09:22.529
bits and you're gonna like the graphics and you're

01:09:22.529 --> 01:09:24.810
gonna listen to the music and be bumping your

01:09:24.810 --> 01:09:29.310
head ah it's such a good game um i will say though

01:09:29.310 --> 01:09:31.920
if um if you are gonna pick up this game uh I

01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:34.859
would definitely get the PC port instead. I mean,

01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:36.659
again, it's pretty much the same game, but it

01:09:36.659 --> 01:09:39.920
looks better. There's also a 60 frames patch,

01:09:40.140 --> 01:09:42.380
which, you know, it just it just makes it look

01:09:42.380 --> 01:09:47.899
better. Why not? So, yeah, that's it. OK, that's

01:09:47.899 --> 01:09:50.800
that's what we feel. He's got an autism overload

01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:52.880
over here. Yeah, I know that game really is getting

01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:55.659
in their spots. His neurons are activated. It's

01:09:55.659 --> 01:10:00.039
Sonic, bro. It's Sonic. So, alright. So, has

01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:01.979
this changed anybody's least or most favorites?

01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:05.619
Not mine. I don't think so. Ryan, this hasn't

01:10:05.619 --> 01:10:08.180
changed anything? It's close, but no. Jacob?

01:10:10.300 --> 01:10:13.939
I don't know, man. I do like this game a lot.

01:10:14.539 --> 01:10:16.180
What's your favorite? Rule of Rose, I think you

01:10:16.180 --> 01:10:18.039
said? Yeah, Rule of Rose was my favorite. I mean,

01:10:18.060 --> 01:10:21.659
I really liked that game, too. I mean, really.

01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:23.699
I mean, it's kind of the same situation. I just

01:10:23.699 --> 01:10:26.649
didn't like the boss battles, but... So I don't

01:10:26.649 --> 01:10:29.210
know. It's really hard to say. I think I like

01:10:29.210 --> 01:10:32.229
the soundtrack of this game better. You're definitely

01:10:32.229 --> 01:10:34.210
more enthusiastic about this game. Yeah, you

01:10:34.210 --> 01:10:36.170
definitely were. I think this might be your new

01:10:36.170 --> 01:10:38.470
favorite, bro. That is true. I will say I've

01:10:38.470 --> 01:10:42.949
been listening to the Knights soundtrack a lot

01:10:42.949 --> 01:10:47.090
more than I did Rule of Rose. I don't know, man.

01:10:47.130 --> 01:10:50.829
It's really tough because I really enjoyed both

01:10:50.829 --> 01:10:57.720
games, but I don't know. Go ahead. I was going

01:10:57.720 --> 01:10:59.659
to say, it's really hard for me to decide, honestly.

01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.340
Okay. Well, it's not hard for me. This is the

01:11:02.340 --> 01:11:04.220
least favorite game I have played on this fucking

01:11:04.220 --> 01:11:09.939
podcast. I absolutely hated this game. So that

01:11:09.939 --> 01:11:12.319
was a 50 % enjoyed, 50 % recommended. We got

01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:15.340
a split down the middle here. So you gamers out

01:11:15.340 --> 01:11:17.520
there, you let us know. I know that I'm going

01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:18.960
to be in the minority here, and that's what makes

01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:21.640
me mad. So let us know if you enjoy the game,

01:11:21.699 --> 01:11:24.579
if you would recommend it. So anyway, enough

01:11:24.579 --> 01:11:26.590
of this garbage. Let's go on to the next game,

01:11:26.689 --> 01:11:28.590
which I can see is one of the best games ever

01:11:28.590 --> 01:11:34.229
made. It's not even close, buddy. I get to get

01:11:34.229 --> 01:11:36.850
a nice rinsing out of that bad taste out of my

01:11:36.850 --> 01:11:40.689
mouth. Another Sega game. So, yep, now we're

01:11:40.689 --> 01:11:43.329
going over to Vectorman for the Sega Genesis.

01:11:43.750 --> 01:11:46.409
Heck yes, dude. You guys have any prior experience

01:11:46.409 --> 01:11:49.909
with this game? Yes. Really, Jacob? You've never

01:11:49.909 --> 01:11:51.750
played this game? No, I may have heard of it,

01:11:51.810 --> 01:11:53.350
but I haven't actually ever played it. Jacob,

01:11:53.409 --> 01:11:55.750
if you hate this game, we're kicking you off

01:11:55.750 --> 01:11:58.449
of the podcast, bro. I don't think I will. He's

01:11:58.449 --> 01:12:00.289
going to hate this game. I don't think you physically

01:12:00.289 --> 01:12:04.229
can hate this game. Yeah, this is one of... It's

01:12:04.229 --> 01:12:07.350
pretty tough. Well, whatever. This is one of

01:12:07.350 --> 01:12:09.609
my favorite games. It's tough, yeah, but... It's

01:12:09.609 --> 01:12:11.529
a tough game. I've beaten this game so many times.

01:12:11.850 --> 01:12:13.470
There was actually a point in my life where I

01:12:13.470 --> 01:12:15.750
felt like I could speedrun this game. I never

01:12:15.750 --> 01:12:17.609
beat this game, dude. That's how many times I've

01:12:17.609 --> 01:12:20.039
beaten this game. we had this game and i never

01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:22.260
freaking beat it that's why i wanted to play

01:12:22.260 --> 01:12:24.300
it so bad yeah and part of it was because there's

01:12:24.300 --> 01:12:25.979
a special edition of this game where you there

01:12:25.979 --> 01:12:28.920
was like a contest where you could like win and

01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:31.140
i wanted to get find a cartridge of that one

01:12:31.140 --> 01:12:32.699
so i wanted to get good at it so i could just

01:12:32.699 --> 01:12:34.859
plow through cartridges and find that purchase

01:12:34.859 --> 01:12:39.460
anyway um so let's go ahead let's go ahead look

01:12:39.460 --> 01:12:41.239
at the front right here why did you find the

01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:44.130
picture says not an original sega case I don't

01:12:44.130 --> 01:12:48.050
know, dude. Okay. I was in a time crunch and

01:12:48.050 --> 01:12:49.710
you were yelling at me. I was looking at the

01:12:49.710 --> 01:12:52.890
pictures and their resolutions were awful. Yeah,

01:12:52.890 --> 01:12:55.430
this is the best looking one I could find. Eric

01:12:55.430 --> 01:12:58.069
actually got a pretty good one, so. Okay. All

01:12:58.069 --> 01:12:59.489
right, well, let's look at the further case here.

01:12:59.710 --> 01:13:02.529
So we got who I'm assuming is Vectorman here.

01:13:02.989 --> 01:13:09.329
Yes, assuming. Yeah. He's shooting some stuff

01:13:09.329 --> 01:13:11.590
from his hands. There's a little metallic hornet

01:13:11.590 --> 01:13:13.949
behind him. And he's punching the Genesis logo.

01:13:14.250 --> 01:13:16.550
I love that he's punching the Genesis logo. That's

01:13:16.550 --> 01:13:19.489
pretty geeky. That's funny. What was up with,

01:13:19.529 --> 01:13:22.130
like, this era and, like, people made out of

01:13:22.130 --> 01:13:24.130
balls? What was up with that? That was the cool

01:13:24.130 --> 01:13:28.569
new 3D thing, bro. They couldn't do full 3D,

01:13:28.630 --> 01:13:30.710
so squares were difficult. They loved geometry

01:13:30.710 --> 01:13:33.229
back then, dude. Yeah. They had to make circles.

01:13:33.470 --> 01:13:36.609
If your games didn't have geometry. Yeah. Well,

01:13:36.649 --> 01:13:38.590
circles were harder to make. It was more impressive

01:13:38.590 --> 01:13:40.949
than squares. Yep. That's probably what it was.

01:13:40.949 --> 01:13:43.170
Yeah, we already did squares. Yeah. Squares have

01:13:43.170 --> 01:13:45.310
been done. They're old school. Yeah, it's old

01:13:45.310 --> 01:13:47.890
school. That's why you shoot square TVs in those

01:13:47.890 --> 01:13:51.609
games. Yeah. All right. Let's go ahead and jump

01:13:51.609 --> 01:13:53.310
to the back. Eric, you've drew a game, so go

01:13:53.310 --> 01:13:56.289
ahead and read it. Yep. It says Vector Mon. By

01:13:56.289 --> 01:13:59.350
the year 2049, Earth has been turned into a toxic

01:13:59.350 --> 01:14:01.449
waste dump, which is not too far from where we

01:14:01.449 --> 01:14:05.460
are. Humankind has fled into space leading behind

01:14:05.460 --> 01:14:09.020
an army of mechanized orbots to clean up the

01:14:09.020 --> 01:14:12.380
mess. But when the orbot leader, Warhead, goes

01:14:12.380 --> 01:14:16.239
haywire and starts a robot revolt, only a lonely

01:14:16.239 --> 01:14:19.920
sludge barge pilot named Vectormon can pull the

01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:23.720
plug. Vectormon can morph, change into a speeding

01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:28.079
train, a power drill, mechanical fish, or a dune

01:14:28.079 --> 01:14:32.250
buggy gone berserk. Hell yeah. overthrow the

01:14:32.250 --> 01:14:36.270
orbots with awesome weapon power -ups like shockwave

01:14:36.270 --> 01:14:40.970
bolo and orb the best graphics yet on genesis

01:14:40.970 --> 01:14:45.170
eye -popping 3d effects and silky smooth animations

01:14:45.170 --> 01:14:50.289
nice which dude like like i like i said i've

01:14:50.289 --> 01:14:52.789
been playing this just a couple days this week

01:14:52.789 --> 01:14:56.210
those flags in the first level dude yeah they

01:14:56.210 --> 01:14:58.689
look so good the graphics are amazing in this

01:14:58.689 --> 01:15:02.260
game so When they named the Orbot leader Warhead,

01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:05.159
did they not think that was going to cause any

01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:08.359
problems? Well, there's a reason he's called

01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:11.420
Warhead. Does he have a warhead on his head?

01:15:11.420 --> 01:15:12.880
You'll learn that in the story when you start

01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:16.899
the game. Okay, that's Vectormon. You guys looking

01:15:16.899 --> 01:15:19.579
forward to playing this game? Yes. Absolutely.

01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:22.800
I want to be the first one to master this game.

01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:25.779
Probably. Some of these achievements look tough,

01:15:25.899 --> 01:15:28.800
bro. I haven't played it in a while. It's been

01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:31.640
a couple years. I haven't played it in a long

01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:35.260
time. Yeah. But, dude, this case, man, if I was

01:15:35.260 --> 01:15:37.300
a kid and I seen this, I'm like, oh, my God,

01:15:37.340 --> 01:15:38.960
I have to have this game. The original case,

01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:40.979
too, is, like, metallic, so it's fucking cool.

01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:46.279
Yeah, it's awesome. And, dude, well, it's probably

01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:51.560
for the next podcast, but that Sega title screen.

01:15:52.340 --> 01:15:54.539
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this game is the

01:15:54.539 --> 01:15:58.439
best thing ever made, ever. All right. I love

01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:00.380
that. Are you gamers out there? Are you interested

01:16:00.380 --> 01:16:03.140
in this one? Let us know. Let us know what experience

01:16:03.140 --> 01:16:05.300
you have, if you're looking and excited to play

01:16:05.300 --> 01:16:08.520
this game. Otherwise, that's the end of the podcast.

01:16:09.279 --> 01:16:11.640
Don't ever stop gaming, and we'll see you for

01:16:11.640 --> 01:16:14.779
the next one. Peace. Peace, dude. Peace out.