WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:03.240 Today, we're talking dungeon crawling, great 00:00:03.240 --> 00:00:06.139 heat waves, and suffering angels goddammit. It's 00:00:06.139 --> 00:00:39.700 Baroque for the Sega Saturn. Hello everyone, 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:41.659 welcome to Retro Game & Beyond Presents Retro 00:00:41.659 --> 00:00:44.119 Game Club. We're your hosts, Joe, Eric, Ryan, 00:00:44.259 --> 00:00:46.799 and Jacob Vanderloski. And we got stomach aches 00:00:46.799 --> 00:00:48.340 from eating rotten meat, because today we are 00:00:48.340 --> 00:00:51.340 talking about our first Japanese exclusive, Baroque 00:00:51.340 --> 00:00:54.979 for the Sega Saturn. But first, come check us 00:00:54.979 --> 00:00:59.219 out on our socials. We got Instagram, RGB underscore 00:00:59.219 --> 00:01:02.100 Game Club. We got a Discord, you can check that 00:01:02.100 --> 00:01:05.719 out in the links down below. We got YouTube at 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:09.120 Retro Game & Beyond HD. 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I mean, I just like the fact 00:01:37.069 --> 00:01:39.250 that you can just blast everything with lightning. 00:01:41.010 --> 00:01:44.689 Yeah, you're pretty powerful. The parkour, it's 00:01:44.689 --> 00:01:48.510 got a lot of jank to it. I think it's like the 00:01:48.510 --> 00:01:50.250 number one thing that kind of holds that game 00:01:50.250 --> 00:01:53.030 back. But otherwise, I mean, it's pretty fun. 00:01:53.250 --> 00:01:55.370 I mean, all the powers and again, the fact that 00:01:55.370 --> 00:01:57.170 you can just blast anything with lightning. I 00:01:57.170 --> 00:01:58.629 mean, I think the story was pretty good too. 00:01:58.790 --> 00:02:00.969 Like the plot twist at the end was pretty interesting. 00:02:02.939 --> 00:02:05.280 The second game is, I don't know, the second 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:08.840 game is weird to me. It feels fairly different 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:13.500 from the first game. The tone feels so different. 00:02:14.580 --> 00:02:17.960 It has humor in it and lighter moments. The second 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:21.659 one feels more like a comic book. I know. The 00:02:21.659 --> 00:02:24.900 first game was so serious, but the second game 00:02:24.900 --> 00:02:29.159 had a fair amount of comedy in it. Yeah, I agree 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:31.120 with that. It was still good, though. I still 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:35.669 enjoyed it. Besides that, I also read all the 00:02:35.669 --> 00:02:39.409 Divergent books. They were pretty good. Neurodivergent? 00:02:40.210 --> 00:02:44.590 No, just Divergent. They're pretty good. I think 00:02:44.590 --> 00:02:47.729 I really like the idea of the five factions. 00:02:48.210 --> 00:02:50.490 I think that's the most interesting thing about 00:02:50.490 --> 00:02:52.830 it. I mean, the characters in Conflict are pretty 00:02:52.830 --> 00:02:58.349 good too. Again, the factions is the most interesting 00:02:58.349 --> 00:03:00.250 part about that book. It really makes you think 00:03:00.250 --> 00:03:04.819 about... human nature and what it means to be 00:03:04.819 --> 00:03:10.400 human and being complex. Are these popular books? 00:03:10.500 --> 00:03:12.860 I don't think I've ever heard of them. They got 00:03:12.860 --> 00:03:15.199 turned into movies, like blockbuster movies. 00:03:16.699 --> 00:03:18.719 They're pretty popular. The movies are pretty 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:23.780 good. I must have missed those. How many books 00:03:23.780 --> 00:03:29.439 are there? There's four. The first three books 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:32.069 are back -to -back. The fourth one's a sequel. 00:03:32.969 --> 00:03:34.810 I didn't read that one. That was the only one 00:03:34.810 --> 00:03:37.669 I didn't read. Only because the fourth one revolves 00:03:37.669 --> 00:03:43.270 around a character called Four. I don't know. 00:03:43.310 --> 00:03:44.830 I'm not the biggest fan of him. I don't think 00:03:44.830 --> 00:03:48.189 he's a bad character by any means. I'm not really 00:03:48.189 --> 00:03:54.909 that intrigued by him. Interesting. Who's next? 00:03:56.590 --> 00:03:59.740 I don't really think I have anything. Nothing, 00:04:00.060 --> 00:04:02.099 bro. It's been like three weeks. I know, bro. 00:04:02.580 --> 00:04:05.240 I don't really have anything. You didn't read 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:08.599 any books, watch any TV shows, nothing? Just 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:10.919 been laying in bed for three weeks. Yeah, that's 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:13.400 all I did. No phone? Not even like anything on 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:17.199 the phone? No phone games? Nothing? I mean, I 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:20.639 got a controller for my phone. Oh, okay. There 00:04:20.639 --> 00:04:26.009 you go. So, I have the Z Fold 7. And I got a 00:04:26.009 --> 00:04:28.910 controller so I can play like Steam games and 00:04:28.910 --> 00:04:32.490 the retro games on it too. Definitely taking 00:04:32.490 --> 00:04:35.670 that up with me when I go up to Tennessee. Yeah. 00:04:35.730 --> 00:04:38.389 Is it Bluetooth or is it physical connection? 00:04:38.430 --> 00:04:42.110 It's Bluetooth and it's actually really responsive. 00:04:42.410 --> 00:04:46.110 So pretty impressive. I've tried using the PS5 00:04:46.110 --> 00:04:48.430 controller and it works okay, but there's definitely 00:04:48.430 --> 00:04:51.350 some lag with that one. Yeah, the Bluetooth. 00:04:52.350 --> 00:04:54.670 For whatever reason, those have horrible latency. 00:04:55.329 --> 00:04:56.910 Yeah, it's weird. I think they're kind of designed 00:04:56.910 --> 00:04:58.350 that way, so they only work with the PlayStation. 00:04:58.790 --> 00:05:03.149 Yeah, which, whatever. But yeah, this thing is 00:05:03.149 --> 00:05:07.209 made for phones and tablets and whatever, but 00:05:07.209 --> 00:05:11.290 it works pretty damn good. All right, cool. Well, 00:05:11.310 --> 00:05:13.230 maybe next episode you'll have something to talk 00:05:13.230 --> 00:05:15.790 about. Yeah, I mean, I'm probably going to be 00:05:15.790 --> 00:05:19.170 playing our next game on it. All right, I guess 00:05:19.170 --> 00:05:21.819 it's your turn, Eric. I'm not going to lie, I 00:05:21.819 --> 00:05:23.579 haven't been doing too much either. Oh, okay. 00:05:24.779 --> 00:05:27.540 No, I've just been playing Baroque, really. That 00:05:27.540 --> 00:05:33.699 was most of my time. I've been reading some TMNT 00:05:33.699 --> 00:05:39.579 stuff. Like the original run? No, they had The 00:05:39.579 --> 00:05:42.100 Last Ronin. I read that before, but there's a 00:05:42.100 --> 00:05:44.720 second book. Yeah, there's a new one out, yeah. 00:05:44.860 --> 00:05:47.959 Well, there's actually a prequel. Yeah, yeah. 00:05:48.019 --> 00:05:50.800 And then there's the second one. I've read both 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:54.399 of those. Okay. That's what happened. The first 00:05:54.399 --> 00:05:58.579 Last Ronin is awesome. Oh, yeah. The other two, 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:02.319 not so much. They're supposed to be making a 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:04.980 game off of that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's 00:06:04.980 --> 00:06:07.420 what I heard. I hope. It sounds pretty dope. 00:06:07.579 --> 00:06:09.360 Yeah. If it's based off the first one, it'd be 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:13.220 pretty cool. Yeah. The second one, like, it's 00:06:13.220 --> 00:06:15.199 just too much storytelling. Like, there's not 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:19.189 enough fighting. oh yeah i got you too much reading 00:06:19.189 --> 00:06:22.209 about like i don't know politics and stuff i 00:06:22.209 --> 00:06:26.129 guess yeah too much exposition like turtles are 00:06:26.129 --> 00:06:29.149 supposed to fight so yeah it should be like a 00:06:29.149 --> 00:06:30.629 fight yeah it should be fighting in action and 00:06:30.629 --> 00:06:34.170 stuff for sure yeah well i don't know if you're 00:06:34.170 --> 00:06:37.029 interested in them or not but the uh the second 00:06:37.029 --> 00:06:40.089 book is a bunch of new turtles so yeah i'd heard 00:06:40.089 --> 00:06:43.250 of that yeah it's like making a new clan or whatever 00:06:43.250 --> 00:06:45.829 right Yeah, they're a bunch of new turtles, so 00:06:45.829 --> 00:06:49.290 they're kind of getting into the beginning of 00:06:49.290 --> 00:06:52.069 that stuff. They're not really fighting too much. 00:06:52.649 --> 00:06:55.069 I think I have those books. I just haven't read 00:06:55.069 --> 00:06:57.670 them yet. The Ronin ones? I know I have some 00:06:57.670 --> 00:06:59.149 of them. I don't have the original first one, 00:06:59.250 --> 00:07:01.790 but I think I have the second run. Oh, okay. 00:07:02.550 --> 00:07:05.069 The first run is definitely worth reading, bro. 00:07:05.209 --> 00:07:07.850 Definitely worth reading. Yeah, I do want to 00:07:07.850 --> 00:07:09.550 read those eventually. I do want to go through 00:07:09.550 --> 00:07:12.699 all of Turtles eventually. Yeah, I want to too, 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.819 but that's a big task. Yeah, I know. I don't 00:07:15.819 --> 00:07:17.459 know if I mentioned last time we recorded, but 00:07:17.459 --> 00:07:19.420 I've been playing that Dead Nation PS3 game. 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:22.600 Yeah, I don't think you mentioned it. I can't 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:25.120 remember. Yeah, I don't think so. But that's 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:27.860 one of my favorite PS3 games. I've been playing 00:07:27.860 --> 00:07:29.660 that for a little bit. I don't think I've ever 00:07:29.660 --> 00:07:32.680 played that game. Dude, it is awesome. It's so 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:36.819 good. Actually, speaking of which, of Infamous, 00:07:37.000 --> 00:07:38.860 Brian and Jacob probably don't remember, but 00:07:38.860 --> 00:07:41.100 I remember when we had that PS3, they got hacked. 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:44.300 Yeah, the PSN was down for like 30 days or whatever 00:07:44.300 --> 00:07:48.699 it was. So Infamous and actually this Dead Nation 00:07:48.699 --> 00:07:50.680 game were one of the two games you could get 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:53.600 for free. For free, yeah. I remember that. The 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:57.839 other one was Wave... Wave Riders or something. 00:07:58.240 --> 00:07:59.680 Yeah, I forgot the name of that one. And I think, 00:07:59.699 --> 00:08:02.759 wasn't LittleBigPlanet also free? I don't remember. 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:05.699 The only other one I remember is that racing 00:08:05.699 --> 00:08:07.980 game that you got, the Hyper... Yeah, I can't 00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:09.439 think of the name of it. Hyper Drive or whatever 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:11.850 it was. No, it's like Wave something. Wipe Out. 00:08:12.290 --> 00:08:16.689 Wipe Out. Yeah, yeah. You had to choose two of 00:08:16.689 --> 00:08:18.889 the four, I think it was, or something. Yeah. 00:08:19.089 --> 00:08:21.709 I don't remember what the fourth one was. I thought 00:08:21.709 --> 00:08:22.990 it was Little Big Planet, but I can't remember. 00:08:23.970 --> 00:08:26.470 Yeah, I don't remember. But we already had that 00:08:26.470 --> 00:08:27.689 game, so that's why we didn't pick that one. 00:08:28.189 --> 00:08:30.949 Yeah. But yeah, dude, this Dead Nation game is 00:08:30.949 --> 00:08:33.110 awesome, and there is no other game that I've 00:08:33.110 --> 00:08:37.730 played that is like it. Yeah, I remember Underrated 00:08:37.730 --> 00:08:41.789 Genre, too. Yeah, I know. It just hasn't really 00:08:41.789 --> 00:08:46.129 been done right. Yeah, well, yeah, it's just 00:08:46.129 --> 00:08:48.970 like, if it's done right, it's such an untapped 00:08:48.970 --> 00:08:54.809 genre. Yeah. Like, there's other over -the -top 00:08:54.809 --> 00:08:57.649 shooters, but this one is just, I don't know, 00:08:57.750 --> 00:08:59.649 a little bit different. Is that one twin -stick? 00:08:59.750 --> 00:09:02.909 Is it like a twin -stick shooter? No. Oh, okay. 00:09:03.250 --> 00:09:04.889 You don't, like, shoot with one and move with 00:09:04.889 --> 00:09:08.169 the other? Oh, well, yeah, I guess you, yeah. 00:09:08.549 --> 00:09:11.289 Yeah, I guess so. Like, I have these alien shooter 00:09:11.289 --> 00:09:13.330 games and zombie shooter games from, like, way 00:09:13.330 --> 00:09:16.870 back on the PC. Yeah. I don't remember if I played 00:09:16.870 --> 00:09:19.149 all of them, but those were pretty fun. But those 00:09:19.149 --> 00:09:22.929 are, like, mass horde, like, a little too crazy. 00:09:23.169 --> 00:09:26.110 Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's see. What 00:09:26.110 --> 00:09:27.809 have I been doing? Actually, I pulled out my 00:09:27.809 --> 00:09:30.149 Vita recently, and I've been playing that a lot. 00:09:30.809 --> 00:09:33.009 Nice. I've been playing Hitman. You guys ever 00:09:33.009 --> 00:09:36.940 see the Hitman in Lara Croft Go games? yeah to 00:09:36.940 --> 00:09:39.059 like puzzle version games you never seen those 00:09:39.059 --> 00:09:41.799 jacob they're pretty dope dude they're like a 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:44.600 they're like a board game like puzzle game of 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:46.899 like hitman and tomb raider they're a lot of 00:09:46.899 --> 00:09:50.620 fun isn't there another go game yeah dose dose 00:09:50.620 --> 00:09:53.879 x but but that one wasn't released on the vita 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:57.039 for whatever reason so that was technically kind 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.820 of like not available anywhere But yeah, they're 00:09:59.820 --> 00:10:02.419 pretty fun. I like them. I mean, I have the Deus 00:10:02.419 --> 00:10:04.059 Ex one on the computer, so I'll probably play 00:10:04.059 --> 00:10:07.179 through that one too. Okay. I think I played 00:10:07.179 --> 00:10:08.960 one of them. I don't remember which one it was. 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:10.500 It's probably Hitman. That one was pretty big 00:10:10.500 --> 00:10:12.480 when it came out. Yeah. Yeah, they're pretty 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:15.919 good. I like them a lot. And then the Claws of 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:18.419 Awaji DLC came out for AC Shadows, so I've been 00:10:18.419 --> 00:10:19.820 playing that. I think I've already beaten that. 00:10:20.259 --> 00:10:22.460 There's like some after story stuff, but for 00:10:22.460 --> 00:10:24.620 the most part, I'd already beat that. But it 00:10:24.620 --> 00:10:26.679 was okay. It was just kind of more of the same. 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:28.730 It was pretty simple. There wasn't really much 00:10:28.730 --> 00:10:31.750 to it, honestly. Yeah. And at this point, you 00:10:31.750 --> 00:10:34.169 already have like 80 hours in the game. It's 00:10:34.169 --> 00:10:36.649 just kind of like, eh. I know. That's how much 00:10:36.649 --> 00:10:40.830 more content you had. I know. And then since 00:10:40.830 --> 00:10:42.610 I'm a trophy freak, I have to play through the 00:10:42.610 --> 00:10:45.330 game again to get the last three trophies. Yeah. 00:10:46.710 --> 00:10:50.470 Let's see what else. Oh, I picked up. Sorry. 00:10:50.610 --> 00:10:52.509 Speaking of phone games, I was talking to you 00:10:52.509 --> 00:10:54.950 about that other one earlier. I was playing that 00:10:54.950 --> 00:10:59.039 today. What did I say it was called? Acecraft. 00:10:59.580 --> 00:11:04.659 Yeah, Acecraft. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Jacob 00:11:04.659 --> 00:11:06.240 Ryan, you guys should check that out. It's pretty 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:09.440 cool. It's like a Cuphead shooter game on the 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:12.519 phone. Oh, really? Nice. Yeah, it sounds cool. 00:11:13.299 --> 00:11:15.639 I've seen a lot of ads for it. It looked interesting. 00:11:15.820 --> 00:11:18.340 I'll probably download it now and check it out. 00:11:19.100 --> 00:11:23.580 It's definitely fun. But, I don't know. Maybe 00:11:23.580 --> 00:11:26.080 Jacob and Ryan are a little bit better. Those 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:30.159 menus are insane. Yeah. I know. Some of those 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:32.220 freaking phone games, the menus are just, like, 00:11:32.279 --> 00:11:34.440 I feel like a boomer when I play those games 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:36.759 sometimes, man. Dude, there's, like, 30 menus 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:40.120 to navigate through. Yeah, I know. It's insane. 00:11:40.379 --> 00:11:43.940 I know. Is it just, like, all stuff you can unlock, 00:11:44.100 --> 00:11:46.879 or, like, all the... It's a gotcha game, so, 00:11:46.980 --> 00:11:51.120 like, all the... It's, like, once human. Kinda. 00:11:51.299 --> 00:11:54.080 Yeah. Just phone version, you know. Yeah, yeah. 00:11:54.539 --> 00:11:57.879 But there's all those menus you can navigate 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:00.519 through. Like, this week they have this contest. 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:05.259 And you can also get, I don't know, cards for 00:12:05.259 --> 00:12:09.179 this. Daily log and stuff. It's just so much. 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:12.419 But the game's awesome. It's fun. The artwork's 00:12:12.419 --> 00:12:16.299 cool. Animations are awesome. Yeah, I'd probably 00:12:16.299 --> 00:12:18.940 check that. Sounds interesting. Yeah, also, I 00:12:18.940 --> 00:12:20.820 picked up The Exorcist, like the actual book 00:12:20.820 --> 00:12:23.240 that the movie's based on, and read through that. 00:12:23.929 --> 00:12:25.409 It was pretty good. It follows the movie pretty 00:12:25.409 --> 00:12:26.789 closely, so there wasn't too much difference 00:12:26.789 --> 00:12:30.470 there. Oh, yeah. I think it was probably a little 00:12:30.470 --> 00:12:33.610 bit more graphic than the movie was. Yeah, I 00:12:33.610 --> 00:12:36.929 mean, book, I would figure. Yeah, but it was 00:12:36.929 --> 00:12:41.710 pretty good. I enjoyed it. How old is that? I 00:12:41.710 --> 00:12:43.789 don't know, 70s, I think. I think it's only the 00:12:43.789 --> 00:12:46.669 70s. Yeah, it's not that old. I think the movie 00:12:46.669 --> 00:12:49.090 came out right after the book. What? I was about 00:12:49.090 --> 00:12:52.330 to say, The Exorcist is what, 78? Yeah, I think 00:12:52.330 --> 00:12:54.850 the movie came out right after the book. Somewhere 00:12:54.850 --> 00:12:57.090 around there. It's late 70s, I'm pretty sure. 00:12:57.610 --> 00:13:00.690 Yeah, the guy who wrote the book wrote the screenplay 00:13:00.690 --> 00:13:03.590 for the movie. Oh, okay. That's pretty cool. 00:13:03.909 --> 00:13:06.129 Yeah, so they follow each other pretty closely. 00:13:07.070 --> 00:13:10.330 It was cool to read. Because I went to Walmart 00:13:10.330 --> 00:13:12.049 and they had the special edition. It's like... 00:13:12.350 --> 00:13:14.350 green and glows in the dark and stuff it's pretty 00:13:14.350 --> 00:13:17.409 cool what okay it's like this like the side of 00:13:17.409 --> 00:13:19.389 the pages are actually like painted green like 00:13:19.389 --> 00:13:20.990 you know some of those books have like the colored 00:13:20.990 --> 00:13:23.029 pages on the side yeah that's cool yeah it's 00:13:23.029 --> 00:13:24.690 pretty dope looking so i was like all right i'll 00:13:24.690 --> 00:13:28.000 buy that and give it a read so oh also Don't 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.200 leave your TMNT books in your hot car in Florida. 00:13:32.379 --> 00:13:35.700 Yeah, you shouldn't leave anything in your car. 00:13:35.700 --> 00:13:38.519 Dude, every book I've had, all my Berserks, all 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:41.100 my Batmans, everything I've read has been fine, 00:13:41.179 --> 00:13:44.460 but the two TMNT books I had, the glue has came 00:13:44.460 --> 00:13:47.740 apart. Really? So like pages falling out? Just 00:13:47.740 --> 00:13:50.740 like big sections. But every other book I have 00:13:50.740 --> 00:13:53.840 had has been fine, so I don't know. That's weird. 00:13:54.590 --> 00:13:56.509 Oh, and then one last thing, I guess, just kind 00:13:56.509 --> 00:13:58.870 of because we like foods and stuff, too. I've 00:13:58.870 --> 00:14:00.909 been like I've been looking for like the best, 00:14:00.929 --> 00:14:03.610 like cheap frozen pizza. So I've been trying 00:14:03.610 --> 00:14:05.610 a bunch of different stuff and everything. I 00:14:05.610 --> 00:14:08.309 think the best one right now is Red Baron. They're 00:14:08.309 --> 00:14:11.090 pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. They're only like five 00:14:11.090 --> 00:14:13.190 or six bucks in there. It's a pretty decent pizza 00:14:13.190 --> 00:14:16.509 for like frozen pizza. I like them. I can't even 00:14:16.509 --> 00:14:18.409 remember the last time I had a frozen pizza to 00:14:18.409 --> 00:14:20.789 be honest with you. I like the tombstones, too. 00:14:20.830 --> 00:14:23.889 The tombstones are pretty good. Yeah. I think 00:14:23.889 --> 00:14:27.389 I liked the... Yeah, I think I did like the Red 00:14:27.389 --> 00:14:30.289 Barons when I was eating them. Yeah, they were 00:14:30.289 --> 00:14:31.490 pretty good. And they're cheap, dude. They're 00:14:31.490 --> 00:14:33.210 like five or six bucks. They're not expensive 00:14:33.210 --> 00:14:36.370 at all. Yeah. I think you just can't go wrong 00:14:36.370 --> 00:14:39.870 with frozen pizza. Yeah. As crazy as that sounds, 00:14:39.929 --> 00:14:41.389 but... I know, it's kind of hard to mess that 00:14:41.389 --> 00:14:43.129 up. Yeah. I tried the DiGiorno's and I'm not 00:14:43.129 --> 00:14:45.789 a big fan of the DiGiorno's. Yeah, they're alright. 00:14:46.210 --> 00:14:48.309 Yeah, they're not that great, honestly. But I 00:14:48.309 --> 00:14:50.559 mean, like, I wouldn't... complain about eating 00:14:50.559 --> 00:14:52.279 them though oh yeah i'm still gonna eat it like 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:56.000 a fat bitch yeah yeah yeah dude walmart had like 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:59.639 too many pieces yeah walmart had like a breakfast 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.340 one one time and that shit was awesome bro walmart 00:15:02.340 --> 00:15:05.100 brand frozen pieces are good yeah they have like 00:15:05.100 --> 00:15:06.940 the deli ones up front yeah those are good yeah 00:15:06.940 --> 00:15:08.919 those are really good But it was like a breakfast 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:11.519 one with like a croissant crust. Yeah, I know. 00:15:11.700 --> 00:15:14.000 Oh, dude, it was awesome. It was got like bacon 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:16.080 and egg on it and stuff. Yeah, it was like egg, 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.960 cheese, sausage. That sounds good. Yeah, those 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:21.200 are good. Those are really good. Yeah, dude, 00:15:21.320 --> 00:15:22.899 I don't remember the last time I had a frozen 00:15:22.899 --> 00:15:25.539 pizza was. Yeah, it's like I've just been eating 00:15:25.539 --> 00:15:26.639 them because they're cheap. That's what I've 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.679 been doing. And all you have to do is turn the 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:30.899 oven on and throw it in there. That's all you 00:15:30.899 --> 00:15:33.379 gotta do. Just don't eat the Totini's pizza. 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:36.039 Wow, what's wrong with those? Ah, those are gross, 00:15:36.059 --> 00:15:43.320 bro. Totinos? Toastinos. Isn't it Toastinos? 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:47.320 Toastinos. Totinos. I thought it was. Totinos 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:50.340 makes the rolls or whatever, don't they? Well, 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:52.919 they have those thin pizzas that Jacob used to 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:54.899 eat. Yeah, yeah. I think those are the Toastinos, 00:15:54.980 --> 00:15:57.200 but there's also, I believe, a Totinos that makes 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:59.360 the roll -up. What are they called? The roll 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:01.899 -up things or whatever? I don't know. Whatever. 00:16:01.980 --> 00:16:05.679 Who cares? The pizza rolls? No, no, no. Beef 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:07.620 -a -ritos or whatever the fuck they're called. 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.019 I don't know what you're talking about. I can 00:16:10.019 --> 00:16:12.259 see it in my head, but it doesn't matter. This 00:16:12.259 --> 00:16:14.019 isn't what this show is about. Anyway. Tostito 00:16:14.019 --> 00:16:18.620 rolls. Yeah, that's pizza rolls. Totinos. It's 00:16:18.620 --> 00:16:21.460 the same company. That's still not what I'm thinking 00:16:21.460 --> 00:16:23.840 of. I don't know what you're talking about. Who 00:16:23.840 --> 00:16:25.740 cares? Because we're going to talk about our 00:16:25.740 --> 00:16:28.960 video game, Baroque. Next is our food channel. 00:16:29.460 --> 00:16:59.029 Yeah, that's the next one. Baroque is a roguelike 00:16:59.029 --> 00:17:01.169 dungeon crawler developed by Sting Entertainment 00:17:01.169 --> 00:17:03.909 and published by Entertainment Software Publishing 00:17:03.909 --> 00:17:07.829 for the Sega Saturn in 1998. It was created by 00:17:07.829 --> 00:17:11.289 Kazunari Yonomitsu, who actually worked on the 00:17:11.289 --> 00:17:14.069 original Puyo Puyo game, which is a pretty big 00:17:14.069 --> 00:17:18.410 difference compared to this game. He worked on 00:17:18.410 --> 00:17:20.470 a bunch of stuff I read. Yeah, he's actually 00:17:20.470 --> 00:17:23.990 a pretty prolific worker in the video game industry, 00:17:24.089 --> 00:17:28.450 which is pretty cool. I don't want to break it 00:17:28.450 --> 00:17:30.690 off too much. But from what I've read, he worked 00:17:30.690 --> 00:17:34.490 on a bunch of, like, not kiddie games, but, you 00:17:34.490 --> 00:17:36.109 know, not serious too much. Things like Puyo 00:17:36.109 --> 00:17:38.210 Puyo, yeah. That's why he kind of, like, went 00:17:38.210 --> 00:17:40.730 this direction with this game. He wanted to work 00:17:40.730 --> 00:17:42.930 on something, like, with more story and seriousness. 00:17:43.309 --> 00:17:46.890 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this game started out as a 00:17:46.890 --> 00:17:50.609 PC -9800 game, which I think was a Japanese -exclusive 00:17:50.609 --> 00:17:54.430 PC. But he wanted to have 3D graphics, so he 00:17:54.430 --> 00:17:57.329 switched the development to the Saturn. Which, 00:17:57.329 --> 00:18:00.089 I don't know, this game doesn't really have 3D 00:18:00.089 --> 00:18:03.049 graphics, I would say. It's like a pseudo 3D, 00:18:03.089 --> 00:18:06.289 I guess. But we'll get into that. Did you guys 00:18:06.289 --> 00:18:13.089 beat this game? Not really. No. Yes and no. You 00:18:13.089 --> 00:18:14.410 guys got through the first act, though, right? 00:18:14.470 --> 00:18:17.549 You beat the dungeon the first time? Yeah. Not 00:18:17.549 --> 00:18:21.029 the simulation, I mean the level 13, right? Is 00:18:21.029 --> 00:18:26.019 the first run? Yeah. I'm on my last run. I'm 00:18:26.019 --> 00:18:29.599 on like the 14th level my last run, so I only 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:33.420 need like two steps. Oh, okay. To actually just 00:18:33.420 --> 00:18:35.680 beat the game. Yeah, you have to make it to the 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:38.400 16th floor to beat the game. Well, you have to 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:41.880 make it to the 21st floor, yeah. Yeah. It's 21st. 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:45.859 Yeah. Jacob, you said you beat the first part, 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:50.259 the 13th floor? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Yeah, 00:18:50.339 --> 00:18:52.660 I made it through the 21st floor and got to the 00:18:52.660 --> 00:18:58.299 ending, but... So I guess a little bit of a spoiler. 00:18:58.440 --> 00:18:59.819 Anytime we talk about these games, there's obviously 00:18:59.819 --> 00:19:01.200 going to be some kind of spoiler warning. So 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:02.660 we're going to talk about the story a little 00:19:02.660 --> 00:19:07.220 bit. But apparently like civilization on Earth 00:19:07.220 --> 00:19:10.420 was diminished by a great heat wave kind of due 00:19:10.420 --> 00:19:12.519 to mankind like meddling in the affairs of the 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:16.119 gods. And you you have been given the task to 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:17.700 make your way to the bottom of the nerve tower 00:19:17.700 --> 00:19:20.039 to kind of gain redemption for whatever you did 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:23.720 to cause the because you were the one who caused 00:19:23.720 --> 00:19:27.140 a great heat wave. And so the story is that as 00:19:27.140 --> 00:19:29.880 you're traveling down through this tower, you're 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:31.539 kind of meeting the people who were a part of 00:19:31.539 --> 00:19:33.579 that thing, part of that catastrophe. And you 00:19:33.579 --> 00:19:38.299 learn the story along the way, which was, I don't 00:19:38.299 --> 00:19:40.259 know. I thought this story was kind of confusing. 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.890 Yeah. The story is. In the game, it's completely 00:19:44.890 --> 00:19:48.089 confusing. Yeah, yeah. This is one of those games 00:19:48.089 --> 00:19:49.490 where you have to read supplemental material 00:19:49.490 --> 00:19:51.809 to make any kind of sense of what is going on. 00:19:51.809 --> 00:19:53.990 Which, when you do, the story is actually kind 00:19:53.990 --> 00:19:57.569 of cool. Yeah, it's interesting. It's very Western, 00:19:57.849 --> 00:20:02.609 or Eastern, I mean. Yeah, it's crazy, for sure. 00:20:03.089 --> 00:20:05.869 Yeah, so basically there is an order of angels 00:20:05.869 --> 00:20:10.839 called the Malkuth who were trying to... take 00:20:10.839 --> 00:20:12.640 over god i guess i'm not really sure what they 00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:15.740 were trying to do but they well they found these 00:20:15.740 --> 00:20:18.920 spheres yeah they should let them to find god 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:23.420 yeah which was kind of driving people crazy yeah 00:20:23.420 --> 00:20:27.119 which is where the baroque came right and then 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:32.720 one dude he kind of went baroque yeah which then 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:37.200 he wanted to take over god right that's the archangel 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:40.460 right Yeah, and he ended up calling himself the 00:20:40.460 --> 00:20:43.480 Archangel. And then he wanted to basically create 00:20:43.480 --> 00:20:46.740 a new world. Right, and then the Coriel found 00:20:46.740 --> 00:20:48.960 out about this and decided that they needed to 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.400 step in. And so they chose you, the main character, 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.220 to fuse with God to figure out what they wanted. 00:20:55.720 --> 00:21:00.000 And then the Archangel found out about it, and 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:01.859 as it was happening, he stopped it, which caused 00:21:01.859 --> 00:21:05.359 the Great Heat Wave. Yeah. Um, he separated you 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:07.299 guys. You were already supposed to fuse with 00:21:07.299 --> 00:21:09.339 God, but he was in the middle of stopping it. 00:21:09.380 --> 00:21:13.259 Right. And then cause a giant heat wave. Right. 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:16.160 Which basically eradicated most of life. Yeah. 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.039 And then, and they chose you because you were 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:26.380 like a twin, like not even, you were like two. 00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:28.819 Uh, what do they call that? Like when you're 00:21:28.819 --> 00:21:34.970 like two people in one. BPD. BPD, Burner Line 00:21:34.970 --> 00:21:37.970 Personality Disorder. No, no, when you're actually, 00:21:38.009 --> 00:21:41.029 like, two people. Like, when somebody has, like, 00:21:41.049 --> 00:21:43.109 a... Yeah, that's it. It was a Siamese twin. 00:21:43.890 --> 00:21:48.029 Yeah. But they, like, killed your other half. 00:21:48.950 --> 00:21:51.009 Yeah, it's some weird thing, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 00:21:51.109 --> 00:21:53.069 So that's why they chose you to fuse with God, 00:21:53.130 --> 00:21:56.329 because since you... They're trying to, like, 00:21:56.369 --> 00:21:58.009 make up for that other half. I don't know, it's 00:21:58.009 --> 00:22:00.460 kind of weird. Anyway, yeah, that's most of the 00:22:00.460 --> 00:22:02.839 story. I guess then the main idea of the game 00:22:02.839 --> 00:22:04.539 is that you're trying to figure all that out 00:22:04.539 --> 00:22:06.599 because you don't have any memory and you can't 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:09.460 speak or anything like that. But you can purify. 00:22:09.500 --> 00:22:12.599 You have the ability to purify. Yeah, but you 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:15.279 can't speak because God took that away from you. 00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:20.039 Right, yeah. But he gave you the ability to purify. 00:22:20.259 --> 00:22:23.720 Well, I guess in this game, she. With all that 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:25.900 said, this is basically, I mean, in the basic 00:22:25.900 --> 00:22:28.039 form, it's kind of like a dungeon caller. It's 00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:30.259 a rogue. like dungeon crawlers what i would call 00:22:30.259 --> 00:22:33.480 it with some slight like rpg elements to it so 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:36.220 you start out in kind of like an overworld where 00:22:36.220 --> 00:22:38.220 you can talk to some characters and they give 00:22:38.220 --> 00:22:40.480 you a little bit of idea in the story and then 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:43.680 you find the archangel who is talking to you 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:47.859 through like a um apparition i guess and he tells 00:22:47.859 --> 00:22:50.400 you yeah projection he tells you to come find 00:22:50.400 --> 00:22:53.319 him in the dungeon and gives you a weapon well 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:55.940 actually Does that happen? The first time you 00:22:55.940 --> 00:22:57.539 just dropped in the dungeon, right? For the simulation? 00:22:57.819 --> 00:23:00.059 You don't talk to him, right? No, you still talk 00:23:00.059 --> 00:23:02.420 to him. Oh, do you? Okay. Alright. Oh, that's 00:23:02.420 --> 00:23:04.480 right. Yeah, you do. So, the first time you go 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:06.380 through the dungeon, it doesn't matter if you 00:23:06.380 --> 00:23:10.299 make it to the level 6 or not. You get to a cutscene 00:23:10.299 --> 00:23:13.519 and find out it was a simulation. And depending 00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:14.759 on whether you made it or not, you're either 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:17.099 a failure or you're like, holy crap, you're a 00:23:17.099 --> 00:23:20.720 success. What happened here? And then the actual 00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:22.700 game, like, kind of starts after that where you, 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:25.440 where the Archangel tells you to come find him 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:27.920 again. And then you got to go down to the dungeon. 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:31.180 So there's, the dungeon's set into levels and 00:23:31.180 --> 00:23:33.920 obviously start at level one. And then it's kind 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:36.160 of a random generated map. And you just walk 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:38.859 around. There's enemies down there called Grotesques. 00:23:39.380 --> 00:23:41.799 And they start out pretty easy, but then they 00:23:41.799 --> 00:23:43.380 start getting pretty difficult in some of those 00:23:43.380 --> 00:23:46.440 later levels. Dodging in this game is difficult. 00:23:47.639 --> 00:23:50.420 Yeah, like it's not even really dodging. It's 00:23:50.420 --> 00:23:53.140 just kind of walking around. Yeah, walking around 00:23:53.140 --> 00:23:55.200 in circles. But like if you try to walk backwards, 00:23:55.380 --> 00:23:57.619 dude, their attack range is insane. Yeah, it's 00:23:57.619 --> 00:24:00.220 ridiculous. Yeah, it is. It's like strafing, 00:24:00.220 --> 00:24:03.000 but you can't really do much about it. Yeah. 00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:05.819 And if you get down to the levels too fast without 00:24:05.819 --> 00:24:08.279 leveling up enough, they get strong fast and 00:24:08.279 --> 00:24:10.000 then they start ganging up on you and you'll 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:13.769 go down really quick. Yeah. Yep. part of what 00:24:13.769 --> 00:24:15.430 you got to do is you got to walk around looking 00:24:15.430 --> 00:24:17.950 for like upgrades and new weapons and stuff and 00:24:17.950 --> 00:24:21.589 everything which this game does not give you 00:24:21.589 --> 00:24:25.650 a lot like no it's all rng and sometimes like 00:24:25.650 --> 00:24:27.750 if you don't get the items that you need within 00:24:27.750 --> 00:24:29.849 like the first four levels you might as well 00:24:29.849 --> 00:24:31.509 just start the whole run over because you're 00:24:31.509 --> 00:24:34.829 not going to make it yeah this the gameplay is 00:24:34.829 --> 00:24:38.390 tough because like you said like and i feel like 00:24:38.390 --> 00:24:41.900 leveling up does absolutely nothing though Yeah, 00:24:41.940 --> 00:24:43.019 it just gives you some health, and that's all 00:24:43.019 --> 00:24:45.579 it really does. And vitality. You get vitality, 00:24:45.579 --> 00:24:50.180 too. Which, I need attack strength and speed 00:24:50.180 --> 00:24:52.380 and defense. Yeah, I mean, all that stuff goes 00:24:52.380 --> 00:24:53.839 up, but yeah, it doesn't really seem like it 00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:55.380 does much, because by the time you get to the 00:24:55.380 --> 00:24:57.359 next level, the new enemies are tougher anyway, 00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:01.460 so. Yeah. And then all the elemental effects 00:25:01.460 --> 00:25:04.599 you can have, I feel like they do nothing. No, 00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:06.759 those are pretty helpful, dude. especially every 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:08.740 time i use them like if you well you gotta if 00:25:08.740 --> 00:25:10.960 you can stack them it's like you're it helps 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:14.160 a lot yeah yeah but i mean fire damage should 00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.920 be noticeably different than not yeah like by 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:20.200 themselves they're not super helpful but if because 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:23.880 the way i won is i had the fire ice and um electric 00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:26.759 all at once and i was tearing through enemies 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:31.660 it was crazy yeah um but that's like a perfect 00:25:31.660 --> 00:25:34.279 run like that's almost impossible sure yeah like 00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:36.819 that that only happened once yeah for sure yeah 00:25:36.819 --> 00:25:39.059 um and then i also had like the trident thing 00:25:39.059 --> 00:25:41.960 where it attacks three times or whatever so yeah 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:44.740 that was a that was a perfect run um but they 00:25:44.740 --> 00:25:47.779 do help it does help um the biggest thing is 00:25:47.779 --> 00:25:50.140 the freaking eating and the vitality because 00:25:50.140 --> 00:25:52.200 you have a health bar and you have vitality which 00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:54.019 is just kind of like an energy that's always 00:25:54.019 --> 00:25:56.539 depleting and then once it goes down to zero 00:25:56.539 --> 00:25:59.670 it starts killing you slowly um But you have 00:25:59.670 --> 00:26:03.069 like meat and seed, which sounds weird. But you 00:26:03.069 --> 00:26:05.750 can eat those, one for vitality and one for health. 00:26:06.089 --> 00:26:08.710 But if you eat them when you're at full bar, 00:26:08.990 --> 00:26:13.470 you like gain more. So for me, I was always trying 00:26:13.470 --> 00:26:15.250 to only eat them when I was at full health or 00:26:15.250 --> 00:26:18.289 full vitality. So I was always gaining stats 00:26:18.289 --> 00:26:20.670 and stuff and everything. Yeah, max it out. Mm 00:26:20.670 --> 00:26:24.390 -hmm. The vitality is hard though because you 00:26:24.390 --> 00:26:27.690 walk one foot and you're already down. You're 00:26:27.690 --> 00:26:30.029 not maxed. Well, it just goes down even while 00:26:30.029 --> 00:26:32.970 you're standing around. Well, yeah. Yeah, that's 00:26:32.970 --> 00:26:35.529 true. That's why you have to kill enemies, though, 00:26:35.549 --> 00:26:38.210 because the pearls that you get give you vitality. 00:26:38.430 --> 00:26:40.630 Their orbs give you vitality, but they give you, 00:26:40.650 --> 00:26:44.470 like, two. Yeah, I know. Depending on the difficulty 00:26:44.470 --> 00:26:46.630 of the enemy. Well, yeah. Yeah, that's why I 00:26:46.630 --> 00:26:48.450 always, like, I always save the seeds and the 00:26:48.450 --> 00:26:50.630 meat, and then, like, if I found, like, one of 00:26:50.630 --> 00:26:52.769 the regeneratives or something that did, like, 00:26:52.769 --> 00:26:54.710 a full heal, I would use that and then immediately 00:26:54.710 --> 00:26:56.269 use all the seeds and the meat and everything, 00:26:56.450 --> 00:26:59.329 so. Mm -hmm. Which yeah, there's a bunch of different 00:26:59.329 --> 00:27:00.769 stuff you can pick up. There's armor you can 00:27:00.769 --> 00:27:04.309 pick up. There's weapons, which was kind of lame 00:27:04.309 --> 00:27:05.990 that there's only just a sword. I wish they had 00:27:05.990 --> 00:27:07.029 like different weapons. That would have been 00:27:07.029 --> 00:27:12.109 cool. Yeah. They had like magic. Basically, there's 00:27:12.109 --> 00:27:14.950 like magic items you can use. There was traps. 00:27:16.549 --> 00:27:18.650 Boxes. Oh, they had the boxes, right? And the 00:27:18.650 --> 00:27:21.930 wings. And the bones. The torturers, the patterns, 00:27:22.089 --> 00:27:25.589 the bones. Yeah. And the worms. The patterns 00:27:25.589 --> 00:27:27.609 were like the traps, right? The things that you 00:27:27.609 --> 00:27:29.009 put on the floor. Yeah, those are the traps. 00:27:29.109 --> 00:27:33.309 Okay, yeah. Yeah. Oh, and the brands. There's 00:27:33.309 --> 00:27:36.509 a lot of... Oh, and ampoules. Brands and ampoules. 00:27:36.690 --> 00:27:38.150 Oh, the brands too. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. 00:27:38.470 --> 00:27:42.470 And then the worms too. Yeah, that's one of the 00:27:42.470 --> 00:27:45.410 things... Which, like, I like that aspect of, 00:27:45.490 --> 00:27:48.950 like, adding all that stuff into the game because, 00:27:49.049 --> 00:27:51.410 like, each run you can, like, have different 00:27:51.410 --> 00:27:54.930 effects and stats and stuff like that. But like 00:27:54.930 --> 00:27:57.619 I said, a lot of that stuff just... kind of seems 00:27:57.619 --> 00:28:00.240 meaningless yeah i mean each run is kind of unique 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:02.599 for sure like because like i played through the 00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:04.099 game a few times and then i watched you play 00:28:04.099 --> 00:28:05.819 and you were picking up stuff i hadn't even seen 00:28:05.819 --> 00:28:08.160 before yeah what is that what is that so i'm 00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:09.660 sure i haven't even seen everything in the game 00:28:09.660 --> 00:28:12.039 yet dude looking at a list there is a gigantic 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:14.519 amount of stuff and i've seen maybe like yeah 00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:16.779 i know it's crazy that's kind of why the rng 00:28:16.779 --> 00:28:20.759 kind of sucks but and then one of the one of 00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:23.660 my big complaints about this game is you are 00:28:23.660 --> 00:28:25.680 in the menu like being in the menu is like 80 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:28.630 of the game You're in there so freaking much, 00:28:28.769 --> 00:28:31.390 it's annoying. Because you have a limited inventory 00:28:31.390 --> 00:28:33.269 and you're picking up stuff constantly. Yeah, 00:28:33.309 --> 00:28:35.769 item management is definitely a huge role of 00:28:35.769 --> 00:28:39.450 this game. Which, I don't know, it's not terrible. 00:28:40.450 --> 00:28:43.049 I'm not a fan of it. It's too much. It just slows 00:28:43.049 --> 00:28:44.990 the game down so much. And this game is already 00:28:44.990 --> 00:28:48.750 slow. For the genre, it just doesn't fit. Yeah. 00:28:48.890 --> 00:28:50.910 Yeah, I mean, you can get in and out of the menu 00:28:50.910 --> 00:28:53.410 quickly. It's not that. It's just that I'm in 00:28:53.410 --> 00:28:55.089 there constantly like, okay, do I need this one? 00:28:55.269 --> 00:28:57.089 What do I throw out now? Do I need this later? 00:28:57.250 --> 00:28:58.869 Do I need this now? Like, I was just in the menu 00:28:58.869 --> 00:29:00.970 all the time. I felt like I was in the menu more 00:29:00.970 --> 00:29:03.490 than I was actually walking around. I don't know. 00:29:03.509 --> 00:29:05.990 I just, if there's something on the floor, I 00:29:05.990 --> 00:29:08.250 throw something, pick it up. If I don't want 00:29:08.250 --> 00:29:09.630 that, then I just throw it and pick up the other 00:29:09.630 --> 00:29:11.710 thing that I wanted. Well, maybe that's why I 00:29:11.710 --> 00:29:14.710 beat the game and you guys didn't. Okay, yeah. 00:29:15.910 --> 00:29:20.230 No, I just got screwed on my last runs. I don't 00:29:20.230 --> 00:29:21.289 know. I just feel like it was in there too much. 00:29:21.390 --> 00:29:22.730 I don't know. To me, this game was very slow. 00:29:22.890 --> 00:29:24.990 I felt it was kind of boring, honestly. It's 00:29:24.990 --> 00:29:28.130 very slow. Yeah. Very. Because you walk slow, 00:29:28.230 --> 00:29:30.609 your attack is slow. You were in the menu quite 00:29:30.609 --> 00:29:34.029 a bit. You also have status effects. Enemies 00:29:34.029 --> 00:29:37.470 can add status effects to you. You can get blinded. 00:29:37.829 --> 00:29:41.089 The lust one was crazy. Everything looks like 00:29:41.089 --> 00:29:44.890 a... Beautiful woman, which was funny. Yeah. 00:29:45.490 --> 00:29:48.829 You get poisoned. Yeah, you get poisoned. Yep. 00:29:49.089 --> 00:29:50.869 And then, of course, you can also collect items 00:29:50.869 --> 00:29:54.609 to counteract all that stuff as well. You can 00:29:54.609 --> 00:29:57.130 get items that give it to the grotesque, too. 00:29:57.690 --> 00:29:59.950 That's true, yeah. Which was pretty cool. Yeah, 00:30:00.009 --> 00:30:02.750 that was pretty neat, yeah. Yeah, you get blinded 00:30:02.750 --> 00:30:06.190 from somebody farting on you. That was ridiculous 00:30:06.190 --> 00:30:08.210 the first time I seen that. I was like, bro, 00:30:08.210 --> 00:30:11.420 what? Yeah, that was funny. Yeah, that's something 00:30:11.420 --> 00:30:13.819 else, too. This game has very, like, to me, it 00:30:13.819 --> 00:30:15.940 felt like very, like, puerile, like, humor, you 00:30:15.940 --> 00:30:19.319 know? Like, a very, like, kiddish kind of humor. 00:30:19.460 --> 00:30:21.700 Like, especially the coffin man or whatever, 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.380 he says goddammit after every sentence. Yeah. 00:30:25.579 --> 00:30:27.259 I don't know if that was just the translation 00:30:27.259 --> 00:30:29.240 or if the original game was like that. Yeah, 00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:31.819 I don't know, because it's very odd. Yeah, he 00:30:31.819 --> 00:30:33.519 was like, everything he said, he just said goddammit 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:35.099 after. Like, every other word was a curse word. 00:30:37.339 --> 00:30:39.779 Just like, what is this? but yeah there's also 00:30:39.779 --> 00:30:42.700 like that he had he's like the tutorial but you 00:30:42.700 --> 00:30:44.079 can't play it until you've already played the 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:48.359 game once which was weird yeah i think yeah let's 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:51.819 just get out of the simulation yeah yeah i don't 00:30:51.819 --> 00:30:53.740 know i just thought that was weird so you have 00:30:53.740 --> 00:30:55.240 to make it through the game or you have to make 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.759 it to the dungeon to the level 13 where you'll 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:00.359 find the the archangel he's been like trapped 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.200 down there this whole time uh and then once you 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:07.029 get through that um the dungeon opens up again 00:31:07.029 --> 00:31:09.390 so you have to keep like slowly opening lower 00:31:09.390 --> 00:31:12.250 levels to the dungeon and then when you get back 00:31:12.250 --> 00:31:15.089 to the top after that you'll find that you can 00:31:15.089 --> 00:31:18.849 like um get into like a i think it was like a 00:31:18.849 --> 00:31:21.329 laboratory right where the the malkuth uh guard 00:31:21.329 --> 00:31:23.390 was watching it but you can do a few things and 00:31:23.390 --> 00:31:25.450 then get in there and then you find out that 00:31:25.450 --> 00:31:27.430 you were a clone the whole time that you just 00:31:27.430 --> 00:31:30.130 keep being cloned over and over yep and that's 00:31:30.130 --> 00:31:31.670 why every time you die you start back up there 00:31:33.420 --> 00:31:35.160 And then after that, you can finally get to the 00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:37.640 second run where you can make it down to the... 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:41.960 Well, it's to the 15th or 16th level first, right? 00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:44.799 And you have to do a few things there. And then 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.019 finally you get down to the 21st level where 00:31:47.019 --> 00:31:51.599 you merge with God and heal the Earth. I don't 00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:53.640 even really know what happens after that. Yeah, 00:31:53.660 --> 00:31:55.640 I don't know. I think it's kind of left open. 00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.299 You're just not really cloned anymore. You kind 00:31:58.299 --> 00:32:02.480 of break the cycle. Yeah, yeah. Well, you just 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:08.039 decide that you can work with God and fix what 00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:09.940 has been... Yeah, I think it's kind of left open. 00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.480 There's not really an ending, really. Yeah. Because 00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:13.880 once you do that, you just start right back up 00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:16.740 at the top again. Yeah. Well, you're not destroying 00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:19.980 the world with the archangel on it. Sure, yeah, 00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.579 yeah. Well, that's why she needs your pure water 00:32:23.579 --> 00:32:25.759 and all that stuff so they can create sense fears 00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:31.230 to restore the earth. Right, yeah. And then you 00:32:31.230 --> 00:32:33.609 got to save the littles, which is like God's 00:32:33.609 --> 00:32:36.150 pain, apparently. Pure pain. Yeah. And they were 00:32:36.150 --> 00:32:38.849 using them as bullets. The archangel, yeah, they 00:32:38.849 --> 00:32:42.250 took the pain receptors from God. Yeah. It's 00:32:42.250 --> 00:32:46.089 a very odd story. I'll give it credit. It's different. 00:32:46.210 --> 00:32:51.329 But he took pain receptors out of God's body. 00:32:51.529 --> 00:32:54.849 And then, yeah, I think they put him in the gun, 00:32:55.049 --> 00:33:00.859 right? Yeah. angelic rifle turned into. And that's 00:33:00.859 --> 00:33:02.740 why it one -shots everything because it's just 00:33:02.740 --> 00:33:05.500 straight pain. This is what drives me crazy is 00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:08.460 you guys disliked Rule of Rose's story so much 00:33:08.460 --> 00:33:12.180 and yet this one is fine. Well, I actually read 00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:16.279 a bunch of those books. Yeah. Well, that's the 00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:18.019 other thing. You have to read supplemental material 00:33:18.019 --> 00:33:20.140 to understand this story, which I think is worse. 00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:24.119 Rule of Rose, I just hated I think the game just 00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.390 made it worse. Just the actual gameplay of the 00:33:27.390 --> 00:33:30.589 game made it worse. I mean, again, yeah, it's 00:33:30.589 --> 00:33:36.170 a very Eastern odd story. But if I enjoyed the 00:33:36.170 --> 00:33:38.130 game, it would be different, I guess. Yeah, I 00:33:38.130 --> 00:33:42.250 don't know. I don't know. If you actually read 00:33:42.250 --> 00:33:44.650 into the story, it's interesting because it's 00:33:44.650 --> 00:33:47.730 different. I guess. I don't know. My entire reaction 00:33:47.730 --> 00:33:50.750 to this game has just been, eh. Like the story, 00:33:50.849 --> 00:33:52.970 the gameplay, the graphics, everything has just 00:33:52.970 --> 00:33:56.509 been, eh. Did you read those books? Yeah, I read 00:33:56.509 --> 00:33:59.869 them, yeah. They're fine. I don't know. I think 00:33:59.869 --> 00:34:02.869 they're very convoluted, honestly. I don't really 00:34:02.869 --> 00:34:05.369 understand what the Baroque salesman was doing. 00:34:06.250 --> 00:34:09.650 He was creating stories to what? That was his 00:34:09.650 --> 00:34:11.989 Baroque. That was the whole point towards the 00:34:11.989 --> 00:34:15.090 end. And the Baroque is just somebody's calling? 00:34:15.269 --> 00:34:20.489 Is that what it is? No, it's just your insanity 00:34:20.489 --> 00:34:23.889 in your own head, basically. Okay. I guess that's 00:34:23.889 --> 00:34:27.849 where I'm getting confused. Yeah. The whole point 00:34:27.849 --> 00:34:31.309 of that was the twist at the end that he was 00:34:31.309 --> 00:34:34.329 Baroque. I guess I missed that because I didn't 00:34:34.329 --> 00:34:37.250 even go, whoa. I was like, oh, okay. It's not 00:34:37.250 --> 00:34:40.409 that crazy, but yeah. And then that girl that 00:34:40.409 --> 00:34:44.809 follows him around is supposed to be part of 00:34:44.809 --> 00:34:48.219 his Baroque. Okay. She's just a figment? Basically. 00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:52.820 Okay. All right, well... Basically all that is. 00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:55.000 And then my other problem... It's like one of 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.320 those Mario 2 things where it's like it was a 00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:58.480 dream the whole time. Oh, it was a dream, yeah, 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:00.400 the whole time. Kind of, yeah. Super Mario Bros. 00:35:00.500 --> 00:35:03.099 2 ending. My other problem is that you guys think 00:35:03.099 --> 00:35:05.780 this game is fun and thought Crusader of Senti 00:35:05.780 --> 00:35:09.559 was boring. I mean, I'm not saying this game 00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:14.539 isn't, like, a godsend. It's just... I... This... 00:35:14.909 --> 00:35:17.530 I wanted this game to be something that it's 00:35:17.530 --> 00:35:20.949 not. Yeah, yeah. I do have some gripes with this 00:35:20.949 --> 00:35:25.630 game, I do. Yeah. Well, I thought this would 00:35:25.630 --> 00:35:30.610 be more like a modern roguelike, but it's really 00:35:30.610 --> 00:35:33.070 not. This game is just not a roguelike at all, 00:35:33.130 --> 00:35:35.710 really. The biggest thing that this game could 00:35:35.710 --> 00:35:37.750 have benefited from would have been permanent 00:35:37.750 --> 00:35:40.380 upgrades. Yeah, that's what we needed. Yeah. 00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.159 Stat increases somehow. That would have made 00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:46.079 a huge difference. Even if they were tiny. Yeah. 00:35:46.139 --> 00:35:49.880 Yeah. But you get nothing. No. Yeah. The only 00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.599 roguelike thing in this game is that you can 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.940 transfer your items between runs. Which is not 00:35:55.940 --> 00:35:59.219 very well explained also. No. No, it's not explained 00:35:59.219 --> 00:36:03.260 at all. That's the only roguelike mechanic. But 00:36:03.260 --> 00:36:06.000 there is a part in the game where they do explain 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:10.280 it, but it's not. It's not very prominent. Yeah, 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.719 I got super lucky in this game. I got two runs 00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:15.900 that I got everything I needed and just plowed 00:36:15.900 --> 00:36:19.460 through. Yeah. So I definitely missed. I probably 00:36:19.460 --> 00:36:21.280 missed some stuff, and I got through this game 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:23.760 pretty quickly. But, yeah, I don't know. Like 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:25.719 I said, I didn't hate the game, but I don't know. 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:27.179 I just felt like the whole time I was like, eh, 00:36:27.300 --> 00:36:32.119 okay. Yeah, I mean, it's not amazing. Yeah. It's 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:34.400 not terrible. The biggest thing is, like, for 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:36.590 me, where the controls were just so slow. You 00:36:36.590 --> 00:36:39.369 feel really sluggish. I mean, the tank controls, 00:36:39.550 --> 00:36:42.829 for sure. It's tank controls, yeah. Which, for 00:36:42.829 --> 00:36:44.929 tank controls, I thought it was going to be a 00:36:44.929 --> 00:36:47.030 lot worse because I haven't played tank controls 00:36:47.030 --> 00:36:49.550 in forever, but they're not terrible. But it's 00:36:49.550 --> 00:36:50.949 also because the environment's kind of built 00:36:50.949 --> 00:36:54.170 around it, you know? Yeah, true. And you have 00:36:54.170 --> 00:36:56.710 the strafing, too. The strafing helps a lot. 00:36:57.210 --> 00:37:00.409 Yeah. Like, a lot. If you can get that down right, 00:37:00.550 --> 00:37:02.780 then yeah, you can move pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:04.400 since the environment's all flat, it's kind of 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:06.320 like a Doom, you know, like how Doom looks and 00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:11.000 everything. The tank controls aren't awful. Which, 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.760 you know, we said before that he went over to 00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.760 the Saturn for 3D, but to me, this is kind of 00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.599 like a... Like, Doom is... I don't know if you 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.460 consider Doom 3D, I guess. I don't know. To me, 00:37:22.460 --> 00:37:24.539 that's not really 3D. It's like a 2 .5D, I guess. 00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.980 Yeah. Because the characters aren't 3D models. 00:37:28.139 --> 00:37:31.699 They're sprites, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I guess 00:37:31.699 --> 00:37:34.099 so. But yeah that's actually the other thing 00:37:34.099 --> 00:37:36.519 too is the attack is 2D. I've never seen a game 00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:38.179 do an attack like that where it's just like a 00:37:38.179 --> 00:37:40.059 sprite across the screen. That was pretty wild. 00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:42.880 Yeah. It was also annoying too because there's 00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.260 like there's like a small hallways that like 00:37:45.260 --> 00:37:47.119 connect the rooms and if you're like up against 00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:49.579 the wall your attack will actually cancel because 00:37:49.579 --> 00:37:51.500 it's like hitting the wall. Yeah. So sometimes 00:37:51.500 --> 00:37:53.239 the enemies like gang up on you in there and 00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:54.699 you can't you're like trying to hit shit you're 00:37:54.699 --> 00:37:56.179 like god damn it. Yeah and you're stuck and you 00:37:56.179 --> 00:37:58.480 can't move forward or back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 00:37:59.369 --> 00:38:02.429 there is if you can hit the wall just right it'll 00:38:02.429 --> 00:38:04.789 you can actually make it attack a lot faster 00:38:04.789 --> 00:38:08.869 oh really yeah you have to do it just right where 00:38:08.869 --> 00:38:12.769 it actually hits them okay because it cancels 00:38:12.769 --> 00:38:14.849 it basically but then you can just go back into 00:38:14.849 --> 00:38:18.889 it oh it's like a bxr yeah kind of like you could 00:38:18.889 --> 00:38:22.010 just you know you it does like half the animation 00:38:22.010 --> 00:38:24.269 but you hit them and but it cancels it so it 00:38:24.269 --> 00:38:27.969 only takes less time to do it yeah yeah All right, 00:38:28.010 --> 00:38:32.769 anything more gameplay controls, anybody? Yeah, 00:38:32.769 --> 00:38:36.769 like you mentioned the menu, like you spent a 00:38:36.769 --> 00:38:38.610 lot of the game in the menu. I just really wish 00:38:38.610 --> 00:38:42.090 the menu was better. I mean, it would have been 00:38:42.090 --> 00:38:44.530 nice if like there was categories in your menu. 00:38:44.630 --> 00:38:47.090 So you have one for weapons, you have one for 00:38:47.090 --> 00:38:52.170 health or what's it called? Your VT, one for 00:38:52.170 --> 00:38:55.730 like, what's that? You can sort it. Did you know 00:38:55.730 --> 00:38:58.519 that? Oh, I did not. Yeah, you can sort your 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:00.860 items in there. Okay, well, that would have been 00:39:00.860 --> 00:39:03.079 nice to know. Yeah, the game doesn't tell you 00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:07.579 that, I know. I mean, it still doesn't tell you 00:39:07.579 --> 00:39:09.860 exactly, but... It also doesn't help that this 00:39:09.860 --> 00:39:12.260 is a Japanese exclusive, so we didn't have, you 00:39:12.260 --> 00:39:15.519 know, access to the menu, or to the, what do 00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:16.619 you call it, instruction manual, any of that 00:39:16.619 --> 00:39:19.260 stuff, too. Well, we also played it patched in 00:39:19.260 --> 00:39:21.960 English, so... Right, exactly. But yeah, there 00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.880 is a way to sort your stuff in the menu, which 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:25.500 I didn't know right away, either. I think... 00:39:25.769 --> 00:39:27.690 I think one of the characters... No, you know 00:39:27.690 --> 00:39:29.489 what? I read it online somewhere. I think I did. 00:39:30.010 --> 00:39:32.989 That's what I did. Yeah, because I never figured 00:39:32.989 --> 00:39:35.570 that out in the game. Mm -hmm. I read it online 00:39:35.570 --> 00:39:38.429 somewhere. Yep. Yeah, but I agree that sometimes 00:39:38.429 --> 00:39:40.829 you just keep picking up stuff and it gets so 00:39:40.829 --> 00:39:42.130 convoluted and you're like, I don't even know 00:39:42.130 --> 00:39:44.690 what I'm looking at anymore. Okay, let's go ahead 00:39:44.690 --> 00:39:48.489 and jump over to the graphics. The graphics are 00:39:48.489 --> 00:39:51.130 okay. I actually like the sprite work on the 00:39:51.130 --> 00:39:53.150 characters and stuff. The models and everything 00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:54.940 are really cool. The enemies were actually pretty 00:39:54.940 --> 00:39:59.139 scary on some of them. Yeah. Like, those, like, 00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:00.760 machine ones that, like, run at you. There was 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:03.420 a few times where I got, like, you know. Yeah. 00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:06.880 Because they knock you back so far. Yeah. I was 00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:08.039 like, please don't hit me. Please don't hit me. 00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:10.679 There's actually, you know, I would say there's 00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:12.199 some actually pretty, like, scary parts in this 00:40:12.199 --> 00:40:14.719 game. Like, their second level or whatever, like, 00:40:14.780 --> 00:40:17.460 that face will, like, take the camera away from 00:40:17.460 --> 00:40:19.179 you and does, like, that. Dude, that would scare 00:40:19.179 --> 00:40:23.039 me the first time. Yeah. That got me. The first 00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:24.460 time I played, I was like, oh, there's jump scares 00:40:24.460 --> 00:40:26.739 in this game? Yeah. And then the second playthrough, 00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:29.300 the Littles fly out of you out of nowhere and 00:40:29.300 --> 00:40:31.960 stuff and everything. Yeah, yeah. There's some 00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:34.539 spooky parts in the game. But yeah, like I said, 00:40:34.579 --> 00:40:35.960 the enemies are pretty good. The other thing 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:37.840 is the environments are kind of bland, I would 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:41.980 say. They're all very samey. Definitely monotonous. 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:48.320 Yeah. I mean, I guess I'm assuming there were 00:40:48.320 --> 00:40:52.110 limitations. Yeah, I'm sure. There's some variety. 00:40:53.309 --> 00:40:56.309 And then there was like a switch you could turn 00:40:56.309 --> 00:40:58.070 off the furnace. Does that actually change those 00:40:58.070 --> 00:41:02.929 levels? Yeah. Just those lower levels. It changes 00:41:02.929 --> 00:41:05.590 to lower levels, yeah. Do they just look like 00:41:05.590 --> 00:41:10.010 the other levels normally? No, they're like iced 00:41:10.010 --> 00:41:12.289 over. No, but I mean if you don't turn the furnace 00:41:12.289 --> 00:41:15.969 off. Oh, I mean technically they look the same. 00:41:16.110 --> 00:41:18.949 It's just they're like... everything's like iced 00:41:18.949 --> 00:41:21.409 over instead yeah okay yeah like the walls that 00:41:21.409 --> 00:41:24.070 you have to attack to right for them to come 00:41:24.070 --> 00:41:26.750 down they're just like ice balls yeah oh okay 00:41:26.750 --> 00:41:29.989 okay but that's pretty much all it does yeah 00:41:29.989 --> 00:41:33.550 so there was i mean there was some uh variety 00:41:33.550 --> 00:41:35.750 but i don't know just they're pretty bland to 00:41:35.750 --> 00:41:38.269 me there wasn't much in there like the the levels 00:41:38.269 --> 00:41:39.949 themselves don't really have much in them other 00:41:39.949 --> 00:41:43.269 than the enemies and the items so yeah it's not 00:41:43.269 --> 00:41:46.630 really much i mean i know i i heard i've heard 00:41:46.630 --> 00:41:49.780 that developing for the Sega Saturn was actually 00:41:49.780 --> 00:41:51.780 very difficult. It's one of the reasons why it 00:41:51.780 --> 00:41:56.099 didn't do very well. But, I mean, the game looked 00:41:56.099 --> 00:41:58.820 fine. You know, it looked like a good 3D, like 00:41:58.820 --> 00:42:02.739 that FPS 3D game for the time. Yeah. Everything 00:42:02.739 --> 00:42:05.539 was, like, distinguishable. You knew what you 00:42:05.539 --> 00:42:07.619 were looking at. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't getting 00:42:07.619 --> 00:42:09.960 lost or anything. My biggest gripe with this 00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.800 game is the distance. Yeah, the draw distance. 00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:15.300 You can't see very far. Yeah. That is the biggest 00:42:15.300 --> 00:42:18.690 problem. I wish it was just a little bit further. 00:42:19.050 --> 00:42:21.210 Yeah, that's just a limitation on the system 00:42:21.210 --> 00:42:24.690 for sure. You had to walk pretty far into a room 00:42:24.690 --> 00:42:27.369 to see if anything was in there or not. Some 00:42:27.369 --> 00:42:31.150 of those rooms are big and you walk all that 00:42:31.150 --> 00:42:33.449 round and there's nothing in there. Well, sometimes 00:42:33.449 --> 00:42:35.789 too you're low in health and you're like, I need 00:42:35.789 --> 00:42:37.110 to see if something's in here but I don't want 00:42:37.110 --> 00:42:38.730 to get attacked. And then you walk in and there's 00:42:38.730 --> 00:42:40.590 like three enemies and you're like, okay, well, 00:42:40.690 --> 00:42:43.730 cool. Or you have no VT and you're like... Do 00:42:43.730 --> 00:42:45.710 I need to go in here or should I just go to the 00:42:45.710 --> 00:42:49.349 next level? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I wonder if 00:42:49.349 --> 00:42:53.730 the PS1's different with that. Well, those are 00:42:53.730 --> 00:42:56.510 like third person, so... No, not the PS1 one. 00:42:56.610 --> 00:43:00.269 The PS2 ones are. Or PS2. Yeah. Whatever the 00:43:00.269 --> 00:43:03.530 remaster was, PS2. Wait, was the PS1 third person? 00:43:03.869 --> 00:43:07.010 The one on the PS1 was like a graphic novel game. 00:43:07.409 --> 00:43:10.389 Well, they quote -unquote remastered this game. 00:43:11.090 --> 00:43:14.650 Yeah, which was a third person. PS2 and Wii as 00:43:14.650 --> 00:43:17.869 a third -person game. But I think the PS1 one 00:43:17.869 --> 00:43:22.110 was just this game, I think. Hold on, let me 00:43:22.110 --> 00:43:25.510 look that up. Yeah, I think so. There was a Baroque 00:43:25.510 --> 00:43:27.929 game on the PS1 that was like a graphic novel 00:43:27.929 --> 00:43:30.369 that was based off of some of those books that 00:43:30.369 --> 00:43:33.489 you read. Yeah, yeah. Baroque itself was also 00:43:33.489 --> 00:43:36.010 on the PlayStation. Yeah, they quote -unquote 00:43:36.010 --> 00:43:38.829 remastered it, or it was different or something. 00:43:39.190 --> 00:43:40.949 They gave it extra. It's like a director's cut, 00:43:41.010 --> 00:43:44.059 I think. Yeah, I think that one was released 00:43:44.059 --> 00:43:49.599 here. Yes, so I think the 3D one was on the PlayStation. 00:43:49.739 --> 00:43:52.539 The Saturn one wasn't released here. Yeah, I 00:43:52.539 --> 00:43:55.400 think the PlayStation one... I don't know, whatever, 00:43:55.539 --> 00:43:56.920 it doesn't matter. The PlayStation one, there 00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:58.300 was also a PlayStation version. I can't remember 00:43:58.300 --> 00:44:00.820 if it was 3D, if it was like this one, or if 00:44:00.820 --> 00:44:04.139 it was like the remaster, but whatever. I think 00:44:04.139 --> 00:44:07.239 the PS1 was like this. Like this one, yeah. Yeah, 00:44:07.260 --> 00:44:09.530 it looks like it, yep, yep. But they added some 00:44:09.530 --> 00:44:11.150 extra characters and stuff in the PlayStation 00:44:11.150 --> 00:44:15.030 1. Yeah. And the sprite work looks a little bit 00:44:15.030 --> 00:44:18.789 better. Yeah. I've read they changed some things. 00:44:19.849 --> 00:44:22.610 It looks like it runs a lot smoother. Probably. 00:44:22.710 --> 00:44:27.989 Although it's got that PS1 triangle jank. Probably. 00:44:28.389 --> 00:44:31.250 And it does look like the render distance is 00:44:31.250 --> 00:44:35.150 further. Yeah. Nice. That's alright. The gameplay 00:44:35.150 --> 00:44:37.130 is probably still the same. I'll take that triangle 00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:42.780 jank. Yeah. It's very retro for sure. I don't 00:44:42.780 --> 00:44:45.059 know. I mean, PS1's like one of my favorite consoles. 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:46.579 Yeah, I know. You don't even notice it after 00:44:46.579 --> 00:44:49.480 a while. All right. So, I mean, that's the graphics. 00:44:49.579 --> 00:44:52.179 They're fine. They've got a nice eerie setting, 00:44:52.260 --> 00:44:54.320 but they're a little bland, I would say. But 00:44:54.320 --> 00:44:56.340 otherwise, pretty good. Pretty good for the time. 00:44:56.559 --> 00:45:02.019 Yeah. And then the sound. One of the main things 00:45:02.019 --> 00:45:03.579 of the sound is there's just like a constant 00:45:03.579 --> 00:45:06.599 heartbeat throughout the entire time you're playing. 00:45:08.150 --> 00:45:11.670 And then like it gets faster when like when you're 00:45:11.670 --> 00:45:14.909 attacked and stuff and everything, which I guess 00:45:14.909 --> 00:45:16.230 is kind of cool. But I don't know. Got kind of 00:45:16.230 --> 00:45:19.510 annoying. Yeah. It gets annoying quick. Yeah. 00:45:20.389 --> 00:45:22.510 And then there's only really like two types. 00:45:22.570 --> 00:45:25.090 There's like eerie ambient noise music. And then 00:45:25.090 --> 00:45:28.170 there was like 80s horror synth music, which 00:45:28.170 --> 00:45:29.909 that part was pretty cool. I like that music. 00:45:29.969 --> 00:45:33.449 But otherwise, I didn't. Good. I think I read 00:45:33.449 --> 00:45:36.059 somewhere where he. The composer didn't really 00:45:36.059 --> 00:45:40.380 want to do music. He wanted, like, more ambient 00:45:40.380 --> 00:45:44.280 noises to make it more scary. Oh, yeah. So, I 00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:46.840 don't know. Yeah, I don't know. There really 00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:49.260 wasn't much... The music didn't play often in 00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:52.440 this game anyway, so... Yeah. I did like the 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.599 noise, though. Yeah, the noises of the enemies 00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:57.360 and stuff and everything were really cool. I 00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:01.559 liked the, like, radio chatter or whatever. Like, 00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.900 the voices. yeah that was that was really cool 00:46:04.900 --> 00:46:07.219 that creeped me out the first time i heard that 00:46:07.219 --> 00:46:10.059 yeah it definitely set like a very creepy atmosphere 00:46:10.059 --> 00:46:12.880 for sure yeah but yeah like like i said that 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.179 the and then like with the constant heartbeat 00:46:15.179 --> 00:46:16.579 like when you're getting attacked and stuff it 00:46:16.579 --> 00:46:19.179 does like raise it up and it does like um you 00:46:19.179 --> 00:46:20.639 know it gets you stressed out and stuff you're 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:22.599 like please get away from me yeah yeah because 00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.260 it makes it louder too yeah it does yeah yeah 00:46:25.260 --> 00:46:30.010 so it adds like the anxiety a little bit Yeah, 00:46:30.010 --> 00:46:31.409 and some of the enemies made some pretty crazy 00:46:31.409 --> 00:46:35.010 noises, too. Yeah. I like when you step on those 00:46:35.010 --> 00:46:38.409 little bugs. Oh, yeah, they're like, squeak! 00:46:38.590 --> 00:46:43.809 Yeah. All right, let's jump over to the achievements, 00:46:43.889 --> 00:46:47.590 then. Did you guys master this game? No. No. 00:46:48.489 --> 00:46:49.929 Yeah, I didn't either. I don't think I'm going 00:46:49.929 --> 00:46:54.429 to. The set's not awful. It's actually pretty 00:46:54.429 --> 00:46:55.929 simple, honestly. Just kind of play the game. 00:46:55.929 --> 00:46:59.619 Yeah, it's pretty straightforward. Yeah. I think 00:46:59.619 --> 00:47:00.960 you have to beat it a few times though. There's 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.519 like four different endings that you have to 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.280 get. Because you have to like embrace God. You 00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:06.960 have to like reject God. You have to like shoot 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.500 God. I don't know. There's like a bunch of different 00:47:09.500 --> 00:47:12.880 endings. Yeah. And I don't know if you can do 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.360 those all on the same save. Yeah, I don't know. 00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.400 I'm not sure. Because I didn't get that reject 00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:23.019 God on my save. Yeah, maybe that's because I 00:47:23.019 --> 00:47:24.960 did that one first. Yeah, I'm not sure. That's 00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:27.440 what I was saying. But Ryan said... He did one 00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:28.840 of them and didn't get them, so I don't know. 00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:32.239 Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'm not too sure. I 00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:35.460 know a lot of us had a couple issues with these 00:47:35.460 --> 00:47:40.320 achievements. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they're 00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:42.599 not too bad. Most of it's just story stuff, and 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:46.039 then it basically beat every enemy in the game. 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.019 Yeah, and then there's just that one achievement 00:47:49.019 --> 00:47:51.460 to beat the game in two runs or whatever. Yeah, 00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:53.139 that's kind of like a killer right there, is 00:47:53.139 --> 00:47:55.739 beat the game basically without dying, basically. 00:47:56.479 --> 00:47:59.119 Yeah, which is, I mean, I guess doable, but. 00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:01.940 But you're going to be playing, like, if you 00:48:01.940 --> 00:48:04.059 don't get the run, like, again, if you don't 00:48:04.059 --> 00:48:05.980 get the items that first time, you're just going 00:48:05.980 --> 00:48:09.159 to have to start over every time, so. Yeah. Which 00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:11.340 is annoying. But you can do the dungeon to help 00:48:11.340 --> 00:48:15.320 you out on those, so. What, oh, the coffin man's 00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:18.880 thing? Mm -hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, 00:48:18.880 --> 00:48:21.719 it really doesn't help that much. I mean, you're 00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.579 level six or seven by the end of it, so. Yeah. 00:48:25.019 --> 00:48:26.900 But if you don't get the items, though, it doesn't 00:48:26.900 --> 00:48:30.260 matter. True. Yeah. But there usually is a lot 00:48:30.260 --> 00:48:33.079 of health and food. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff 00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:37.400 in them. But, yeah, I mean, it's definitely not 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.400 impossible. It's just this is one of those ones 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.239 that you have to, like, put time into. And it's 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:43.239 just like, I don't know if I want to play this 00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:46.800 game anymore. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe. Probably 00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:51.780 not. But I got to even beat the game. Yeah. Which 00:48:51.780 --> 00:48:56.440 I will do. I'm close to the end. Like I said, 00:48:56.460 --> 00:48:58.239 dude, you just got to get that set up at the 00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:01.139 beginning. That's all. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, 00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:02.880 this is a fine set. I don't really have anything 00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.119 against this set. So it's got a pretty good difficulty 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:10.940 to it. Just that one's kind of tough. Yeah. Like 00:49:10.940 --> 00:49:13.179 I said, I'm pretty sure there's a guide on there, 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:17.639 too. So I think it's doable. Yeah. If you guys 00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:19.360 got anything else, we're going to jump over to 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:44.840 the final verdict. All right, so just a quick 00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:46.420 explanation. We don't do numbering or anything 00:49:46.420 --> 00:49:48.460 like that. It's just a quick, did you enjoy the 00:49:48.460 --> 00:49:51.400 game and would you recommend the game? So who 00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.320 wants to go first? Go ahead, Jacob. I want to 00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:55.599 hear Jacob's opinion. Yeah, Jacob, you go first. 00:49:55.900 --> 00:50:00.199 All right. Yeah, I didn't really care for this 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.019 game at all. It's just, it's very flat in my 00:50:04.019 --> 00:50:08.280 opinion and it's very slow. Having to go to your 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:11.039 menu constantly and the fact that I didn't know 00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:13.440 that you can organize it. And the fact that the 00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:17.360 menu is just, again, so flat and bland really 00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:19.519 just took me out. There wasn't really anything 00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.320 in this game that really appealed to me. And 00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.239 I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. I mean, 00:50:24.260 --> 00:50:25.699 there's a few things in here that I thought were 00:50:25.699 --> 00:50:28.139 neat. Like, you know, some of the sprite work 00:50:28.139 --> 00:50:30.940 looks pretty good. The ambience is pretty nice, 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:34.840 but everything else just didn't do it for me. 00:50:35.579 --> 00:50:38.260 So I'm guessing you wouldn't recommend it. No, 00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:43.039 there's other good dungeon crawlers. Around this 00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.119 time. I mean. When I was playing this game. I 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:48.619 kept thinking about the original Doom. I played 00:50:48.619 --> 00:50:50.639 a little bit of it. I'm not going to lie. I haven't 00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:53.860 really gone through that game. But I mean. I 00:50:53.860 --> 00:50:55.400 think you should play that a lot more than this 00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:57.000 game. And I know that they're kind of two different 00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.460 ambiences. And two different moods. And kind 00:50:59.460 --> 00:51:02.940 of two different game plays. Well that's like 00:51:02.940 --> 00:51:08.880 an FPS. Yeah. But yeah. I mean. This is too. 00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:13.829 It's just not guns you know. Swords. first Perkin 00:51:13.829 --> 00:51:19.010 sorter not to mention like if you want to understand 00:51:19.010 --> 00:51:20.769 the story of this game you gotta read the damn 00:51:20.769 --> 00:51:23.170 books and it's like I think there's a lot of 00:51:23.170 --> 00:51:25.409 people I think most gamers you don't have to 00:51:25.409 --> 00:51:27.710 there's just a lot of backstory that's not there 00:51:27.710 --> 00:51:29.449 well you won't understand a damn thing if you 00:51:29.449 --> 00:51:32.550 don't well that's how I felt about rule of rose 00:51:32.550 --> 00:51:34.670 okay and that's fine but I'm just taking my time 00:51:34.670 --> 00:51:38.889 not to mention I mean you could I mean, you can 00:51:38.889 --> 00:51:40.710 at least understand Rule of Rose without having 00:51:40.710 --> 00:51:43.889 to read a damn book, you know? I didn't. But 00:51:43.889 --> 00:51:46.289 you could. You won't get that shit out of Baroque. 00:51:46.550 --> 00:51:49.329 You have to read the books. You don't have to. 00:51:49.510 --> 00:51:51.590 Oh, my God. To understand the story, you do. 00:51:51.769 --> 00:51:54.269 That's my point. Not really. Ryan, what's your 00:51:54.269 --> 00:51:58.789 opinion? Did you enjoy this game? Yeah, I did. 00:51:59.730 --> 00:52:02.469 Fortunately, I did expect it to be something 00:52:02.469 --> 00:52:07.699 different. I did enjoy it, but I do have some 00:52:07.699 --> 00:52:10.559 gripes with it. I do think it's very slow. I 00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:14.400 agree with that. I don't think the combat, I 00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:17.639 guess, is very appealing. I mean, it's simple. 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.820 Yeah, whatever. But I guess, yeah, just the gameplay 00:52:22.820 --> 00:52:29.320 is lacking a little bit. But I do love the ambience 00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:34.670 of this game. I do love the artwork. where what 00:52:34.670 --> 00:52:38.710 direction they went into um it's not like a super 00:52:38.710 --> 00:52:43.449 super scary game but i i you guys know i love 00:52:43.449 --> 00:52:46.610 lovecraft like hp lovecraft i i love like that 00:52:46.610 --> 00:52:53.309 existential like dread and like i don't know 00:52:53.309 --> 00:52:56.489 like the dark you can't like escape or get out 00:52:56.489 --> 00:53:00.769 of like a never -ending cycle, and I love that 00:53:00.769 --> 00:53:03.170 about this game, because it does that very well. 00:53:03.989 --> 00:53:06.349 So, I don't know if they... Did you read the 00:53:06.349 --> 00:53:09.289 books? I read the first one. I didn't read them 00:53:09.289 --> 00:53:13.030 all, but I'm going to. Yeah, you should. I think 00:53:13.030 --> 00:53:15.969 you would like them. I'm sure I would. The first 00:53:15.969 --> 00:53:19.570 one's kind of slow. Well, yeah. They definitely... 00:53:19.570 --> 00:53:21.809 Up until the last one, it picks up pretty good. 00:53:21.989 --> 00:53:24.070 Yeah, yeah. I don't know if this game... I'm 00:53:24.070 --> 00:53:26.500 sure they don't do it on purpose, but... How 00:53:26.500 --> 00:53:30.420 every level is just kind of bland and all kind 00:53:30.420 --> 00:53:34.519 of the same. I mean, you go into the same tower 00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.380 every single time. So you're kind of doing the 00:53:37.380 --> 00:53:41.639 same thing over and over again. I know it's a 00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:43.940 limitation in a retro game thing, but I like 00:53:43.940 --> 00:53:46.139 to think that it's kind of like that. You're 00:53:46.139 --> 00:53:48.019 doing the same thing over and over again. That's 00:53:48.019 --> 00:53:50.780 why you're kind of not going like you're kind 00:53:50.780 --> 00:53:55.519 of going Baroque. I mean, that just comes with 00:53:55.519 --> 00:53:58.659 this genre, too, so it's to be expected. Yeah, 00:53:58.780 --> 00:54:02.000 and another thing, too, is because on Retro Achievements, 00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:06.059 it's a roguelike dungeon crawler. It's not a 00:54:06.059 --> 00:54:10.340 roguelike. It's just not. It's just a very retro 00:54:10.340 --> 00:54:12.619 dungeon crawler, and that's just what it is. 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.860 There's no roguelike elements. That's the only 00:54:15.860 --> 00:54:19.199 really grape I had. It's the game's fault, but 00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.320 it's just not a roguelike. There's two different 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:25.000 types. There's roguelike and roguelite. The roguelite 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:27.800 is the newer ones that have upgrades and stuff. 00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:30.199 The original rogue game that this is based off 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:35.840 of didn't have any of that stuff. Yeah. All that 00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:39.960 means is it's generally created maps and stuff 00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:43.320 every time. That's all it means. Yeah. Would 00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:50.420 you recommend it? Yeah, but you have to... You 00:54:50.420 --> 00:54:54.039 have to like enjoy a certain niche of video games, 00:54:54.099 --> 00:54:59.119 I guess, or just a certain kind of artwork. Because 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:03.619 again, the problem, the gameplay is just lacking. 00:55:04.059 --> 00:55:07.820 But if you can kind of, you know, put that to 00:55:07.820 --> 00:55:10.559 the side, I guess, and appreciate the artwork 00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:14.059 and like the ambience you get from it and everything, 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:18.480 it kind of like that dread. yeah you'll enjoy 00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:21.500 it but again the gameplay is just a little rough 00:55:21.500 --> 00:55:26.880 okay that's interesting take all right eric what 00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:30.619 do you got i i'd say i enjoyed it i had fun playing 00:55:30.619 --> 00:55:35.340 it i um i do like that you know the the different 00:55:35.340 --> 00:55:38.300 runs you can have like different you know play 00:55:38.300 --> 00:55:41.440 styles basically with different mechanics and 00:55:41.440 --> 00:55:45.960 stuff okay would you recommend it Yeah, I'd recommend 00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:50.440 it. I don't see why you wouldn't play this game. 00:55:50.500 --> 00:55:57.380 It's fun. You can make it through it. I would 00:55:57.380 --> 00:56:01.360 definitely maybe either read the books or watch 00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:05.400 a video on the PS1 game because it explains a 00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:10.739 little bit more. There's also this website, NerveTower. 00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:14.000 There's a whole bunch of information on there 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:17.119 that explains a lot more about this game. Yeah, 00:56:17.219 --> 00:56:20.880 pretty much everything. Yeah, everything. Maybe 00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:23.760 if you go through that while playing the game, 00:56:23.900 --> 00:56:28.440 it'll make a little bit more sense. I had fun 00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:31.340 with it. I mean, I definitely thought it was 00:56:31.340 --> 00:56:36.159 something else than what it ended up being, but 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:42.480 it's still... worth going through i think okay 00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:47.639 yeah i mean i don't know i i guess i enjoy this 00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:52.260 game um i i wonder if i had gotten if i hadn't 00:56:52.260 --> 00:56:54.119 been so lucky to get through the game so quickly 00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.059 if i would have but i mean there's like like 00:56:57.059 --> 00:56:58.559 you guys said there's a good environment here 00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:00.599 the ambience is really good i like the artwork 00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:03.159 with the characters and the enemies and stuff 00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:07.030 and everything it is fun to like Go through the 00:57:07.030 --> 00:57:09.550 levels and see what new things you can find and 00:57:09.550 --> 00:57:12.530 figure out like, you know, combos and setting 00:57:12.530 --> 00:57:14.150 things up and see what works best and stuff. 00:57:14.230 --> 00:57:16.949 So all that's fun. It's just for me, the game 00:57:16.949 --> 00:57:20.909 is just so slow. It's just such a sluggish game. 00:57:21.090 --> 00:57:22.889 I don't know. And then like with the story and 00:57:22.889 --> 00:57:24.489 stuff, the story is interesting, but you have 00:57:24.489 --> 00:57:27.389 to do so much work to like get into it and understand 00:57:27.389 --> 00:57:30.329 it and everything. So there's a lot of diving 00:57:30.329 --> 00:57:33.869 into. But I think there were like stories that 00:57:33.869 --> 00:57:36.969 were released. while the game was out. So it 00:57:36.969 --> 00:57:38.289 was in the magazine. It was supposed to be like, 00:57:38.329 --> 00:57:40.369 kind of like a combo thing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. 00:57:40.889 --> 00:57:43.909 So, so with all that being said, I don't think 00:57:43.909 --> 00:57:46.969 I would recommend this game. Um, I just don't 00:57:46.969 --> 00:57:49.809 think it's aged very well. Uh, like, like Jacob 00:57:49.809 --> 00:57:52.070 said, there's probably better games of this genre 00:57:52.070 --> 00:57:53.869 that you can find out there. And then just to, 00:57:53.929 --> 00:57:56.730 with being a Japanese exclusive, it's a little 00:57:56.730 --> 00:57:59.630 bit harder, I think too, for like a Western audience 00:57:59.630 --> 00:58:02.570 to get into it and stuff. So, but not a bad game, 00:58:02.630 --> 00:58:07.099 just, uh, just very different. Alright, has this 00:58:07.099 --> 00:58:08.860 changed anybody's least most favorites at all? 00:58:09.679 --> 00:58:12.179 No. Yeah, this is probably my least favorite 00:58:12.179 --> 00:58:16.219 game. Yeah, I was thinking that. I don't think 00:58:16.219 --> 00:58:18.059 it is. It's close, but I don't think it has. 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:21.800 I think Castlevania, I said, right? I think that's 00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.820 still just a little bit below this one. Alright, 00:58:24.900 --> 00:58:27.260 cool. That's our thoughts, our ideas for Baroque 00:58:27.260 --> 00:58:29.039 for the Sega Saturn. Let us know what you guys 00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:30.969 thought. Did you enjoy this game? Did you have 00:58:30.969 --> 00:58:33.070 fun? Did you think it was too slow? Did you read 00:58:33.070 --> 00:58:35.630 all the supplemental stories and everything? 00:58:36.409 --> 00:58:39.889 Let us know. We like hearing from you guys. All 00:58:39.889 --> 00:58:41.530 right. And for that, we're going to jump over 00:58:41.530 --> 00:58:43.550 to the next game, which we're going to be playing 00:58:43.550 --> 00:58:47.670 Survival Kids for the Game Boy Color. Do you 00:58:47.670 --> 00:58:50.329 guys have any experience with this game? No. 00:58:50.469 --> 00:58:53.269 Never heard of it. Nah. Yeah, me either. I don't 00:58:53.269 --> 00:58:55.730 know anything about this game. I didn't play, 00:58:55.809 --> 00:58:57.789 like I said, Game Boy Color and Game Boy Advance. 00:58:57.949 --> 00:59:00.639 I did not play a lot of stuff on there. Let's 00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:02.860 go ahead and take a look at the front of the 00:59:02.860 --> 00:59:09.000 box here. It's got a kid, androgynous kid with 00:59:09.000 --> 00:59:10.539 a little, is that a little monkey on his head? 00:59:10.900 --> 00:59:13.460 Yeah, a little monkey. Depends if it has a tail 00:59:13.460 --> 00:59:16.159 or not. Oh, that's a good point. Could be an 00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:21.260 ape. With survival kids, like a tribal type of 00:59:21.260 --> 00:59:24.000 thing. Is that a robot bee or is that a regular 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.840 bee? I don't know. It could be a bird bee or 00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:29.949 something. Yeah, it's a gigantic bee. It looks 00:59:29.949 --> 00:59:32.690 like a Mega Man robot. And then a crocodile. 00:59:32.989 --> 00:59:37.110 Is that a crocodile? Crocodile. Yeah. So obviously 00:59:37.110 --> 00:59:39.150 some kind of jungle stuff going on here it looks 00:59:39.150 --> 00:59:42.030 like. It looks interesting. I like this cover 00:59:42.030 --> 00:59:43.269 art. This is actually a really nice cover art. 00:59:43.550 --> 00:59:46.090 There's a radio in the circle there. I wonder 00:59:46.090 --> 00:59:48.190 if that'll like play into the game at all. Like 00:59:48.190 --> 00:59:50.329 if you can contact people outside the island 00:59:50.329 --> 00:59:53.070 or whatever you're on. Yeah. Well, yeah. Like 00:59:53.070 --> 00:59:56.050 you got a slingshot. Bow and arrow. Fishing rod. 00:59:56.150 --> 00:59:58.389 Some book thing. Yeah. I'm sure that's all part 00:59:58.389 --> 01:00:01.000 of the game. It's got a very, like, 90s manga 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.860 look to it. Yeah. There's this art on the cover 01:00:04.860 --> 01:00:08.579 here. And then your house is on the bottom. Yeah, 01:00:08.619 --> 01:00:10.960 I hope that's not my house. That's tiny. You 01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:12.639 can upgrade it. You're a kid, bro. You'll fit. 01:00:13.380 --> 01:00:15.440 And he made a... What is that made out of, though? 01:00:15.460 --> 01:00:18.460 Stucco? He made a stucco house? That's, like, 01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:20.940 cardboard. It's kind of advanced for a kid like 01:00:20.940 --> 01:00:24.179 that, isn't it? Is there multiple kids? Is there 01:00:24.179 --> 01:00:26.639 just one kid? It does say survival kids. Survival 01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:30.159 kids, yeah. I hope the monkey's there. That's 01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:33.679 all I care about. Yeah, monkey. All right, let's 01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:36.360 take a look at the back here. Uncover secrets 01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:38.980 about this mysterious island. Hone your survival 01:00:38.980 --> 01:00:41.199 skills to get through the day. Improvise and 01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:43.500 create tools to hunt and protect. Think you're 01:00:43.500 --> 01:00:45.599 old enough to live on your own? Now prove it. 01:00:46.619 --> 01:00:53.500 Hmm. Ooh. Displays up to 56 colors. Wow. That's 01:00:53.500 --> 01:00:57.079 pretty good. That second screenshot. It's reminding 01:00:57.079 --> 01:01:00.579 me of Pokemon. Yeah, the one in the middle there. 01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:03.179 The text box looks so much like Pokemon. Yeah, 01:01:03.179 --> 01:01:05.900 it does. I mean, that's just classic Game Boy. 01:01:05.900 --> 01:01:09.699 Yeah, I know. Yeah, I feel like that or like 01:01:09.699 --> 01:01:12.579 the Legend of Zelda. Very similar. Yeah, that's 01:01:12.579 --> 01:01:14.920 what the bottom right one reminded me of, Legend 01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:19.079 of Zelda. I'm sure it's going to be pretty similar 01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:22.239 to both. Yeah. Oh, it says Super Game Boy. I 01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:23.639 wonder if it's got any enhancements on the Super 01:01:23.639 --> 01:01:26.389 Game Boy. Yeah, you guys looking forward to this? 01:01:27.369 --> 01:01:31.210 It looks pretty interesting. It's a survival 01:01:31.210 --> 01:01:35.989 game, so I'm not too good at those. No, you're 01:01:35.989 --> 01:01:39.309 not. I've been playing Minecraft for 15 years 01:01:39.309 --> 01:01:42.150 or however long. Yeah, exactly, and we still 01:01:42.150 --> 01:01:44.389 haven't beaten it. It's true, we haven't gotten 01:01:44.389 --> 01:01:48.429 anywhere in that game. Nope. Alright, yeah, I 01:01:48.429 --> 01:01:49.650 mean, I'm looking forward to it. It looks pretty 01:01:49.650 --> 01:01:53.650 cool. It's made by Konami. Yeah, Konami's good. 01:01:53.710 --> 01:01:55.429 I'm always down to play some weird Game Boy stuff. 01:01:56.449 --> 01:01:59.369 Yeah, looks fun. Alright, you guys let us know 01:01:59.369 --> 01:02:00.849 out there. 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