WEBVTT 00:00:00.590 --> 00:00:03.569 Today, we're talking blue blurs, big trolls, 00:00:03.770 --> 00:00:06.209 and stupid special stages. It's Sonic Advance 00:00:06.209 --> 00:00:41.009 for the Game Boy Advance. hello everyone welcome 00:00:41.009 --> 00:00:43.130 to retro gaming beyond presents retro game club 00:00:43.130 --> 00:00:46.090 the true gaming podcast and we're your true gamers 00:00:46.090 --> 00:00:49.130 Joe, Eric, Ryan and Jacob Vanderloski and today 00:00:49.130 --> 00:00:51.549 we are talking sonic advance for the game boy 00:00:51.549 --> 00:00:53.969 advance is that why they called it sonic advance 00:00:53.969 --> 00:01:00.530 whoa marketing all right um so before we get 00:01:00.530 --> 00:01:03.770 started check us out on instagram rgb rgb underscore 00:01:03.770 --> 00:01:07.079 game club We got to get that Discord link. You 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:09.219 got to send that to me, Ryan. We got to put that 00:01:09.219 --> 00:01:11.180 out there. Oh, yeah, yeah. 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Well, 00:01:46.140 --> 00:01:48.659 I actually wanted to play it even before I got 00:01:48.659 --> 00:01:50.319 into Rule of Rose because I wanted to get more 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:54.019 into survival horror games around that time period 00:01:54.019 --> 00:01:57.939 for the PS2. But I am enjoying it. I think it's 00:01:57.939 --> 00:01:59.859 actually probably better than Rule of Rose only 00:01:59.859 --> 00:02:02.560 because the combat doesn't suck. What? It's actually... 00:02:03.140 --> 00:02:07.260 Yeah, I know it's so surprising right here. Yeah, 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:09.300 but the question is, would Eric and Ryan like 00:02:09.300 --> 00:02:15.699 it? I don't know. I mean, they would definitely 00:02:15.699 --> 00:02:17.900 like it more than Rule of Rose, but there's a 00:02:17.900 --> 00:02:19.860 few things in there. That's not saying much. 00:02:20.099 --> 00:02:24.360 Yeah, I know it's a pretty low bar, but I think 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:26.560 you guys wouldn't like the panic aspect of the 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:32.319 game. Other than that, again, There's no, like, 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:36.159 combat in this game. You can't fend for yourself. 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:39.639 You just more, like, run away and hide. So... 00:02:39.639 --> 00:02:43.419 But it's also, like, rule of rules in that there's, 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:45.099 like, a lot of puzzles you have to solve. This 00:02:45.099 --> 00:02:49.639 was made by Capcom, by the way. Yeah. So... Another 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:52.319 thing I wanted to mention about this game, which 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:56.340 was, like, completely bonkers to me. Crazy. I 00:02:56.340 --> 00:02:59.139 guess not that crazy, but... For anybody that 00:02:59.139 --> 00:03:02.069 doesn't know, the PS2 emulator... It's a thing 00:03:02.069 --> 00:03:04.969 called patches. And these are just like slight 00:03:04.969 --> 00:03:10.250 modifiers to the game. So I use them for like 00:03:10.250 --> 00:03:13.069 visual enhancements. And one of those is the 00:03:13.069 --> 00:03:16.789 widescreen patches. Because a lot of games on 00:03:16.789 --> 00:03:21.050 the PS2 ran at a 4x3 aspect ratio. And the widescreen 00:03:21.050 --> 00:03:26.110 patch patches it to a 16x9 aspect ratio. So I 00:03:26.110 --> 00:03:28.689 went to the patches folder. I found the file 00:03:28.689 --> 00:03:31.310 for Haunting Ground. and I wanted to convert 00:03:31.310 --> 00:03:34.229 the widescreen patch into a 21x9 patch, which 00:03:34.229 --> 00:03:38.889 is ultra -widescreen. But as I was looking in 00:03:38.889 --> 00:03:40.930 there, I found the cheats for the game, kind 00:03:40.930 --> 00:03:42.849 of like GameShark codes and stuff like that, 00:03:42.909 --> 00:03:46.229 so you can get unlimited health, unlimited materials 00:03:46.229 --> 00:03:50.349 and stuff like that. And I found one cheat that 00:03:50.349 --> 00:03:54.770 was called Have Big Boobs. And then I scrolled 00:03:54.770 --> 00:03:57.550 down a little bit more. There was Have Super 00:03:57.550 --> 00:04:00.580 Big Boobs. Nice. Scroll down a little bit more. 00:04:00.740 --> 00:04:05.639 Have ultra big boots. And I was just like, I 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:09.460 shook my head. I was like, why? And I know which 00:04:09.460 --> 00:04:13.080 one you picked. I didn't turn on any of those. 00:04:13.340 --> 00:04:15.580 Are these in the game, or are these things people 00:04:15.580 --> 00:04:18.060 made? No, they're community patches. Oh, okay, 00:04:18.139 --> 00:04:22.180 alright. I'm surprised there's only three settings. 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.740 Yeah. I'm surprised they don't cover the whole 00:04:25.740 --> 00:04:31.699 screen. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Jacob's 00:04:31.699 --> 00:04:33.319 been looking at boobs all week. So what else? 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:39.779 Yeah. I wish I could say the same. Don't we all? 00:04:39.980 --> 00:04:45.480 Yeah. I bought the first Dead Island on PC for 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:48.300 like two bucks. So I've been playing that. Dude, 00:04:49.500 --> 00:04:52.379 such a fucking good game. Yeah. The first Dead 00:04:52.379 --> 00:04:56.040 Island was dope. It's so fucking good. I love 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:58.379 it. I just seen the second one's on sale. I was 00:04:58.379 --> 00:05:00.680 thinking about getting it. It's worth it, bro. 00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:03.639 For 15 bucks? Yeah, the second one's good. I 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:06.439 bought it full price, and I still think it was 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:09.300 worth it. I bought it for a PlayStation, so. 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:12.420 Have you played it yet? Not yet. I want to. I 00:05:12.420 --> 00:05:16.920 need to. It's good, man. I like it. I mean, it's 00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:19.040 not as good as the first one. Is it better than 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:23.949 Riptide? Yeah. Not even close. But for that game 00:05:23.949 --> 00:05:26.129 to be in development, what, like almost 10 years? 00:05:26.149 --> 00:05:29.009 It was a while, yeah. And to go through three 00:05:29.009 --> 00:05:32.329 different developers? Three? Two or three, yeah. 00:05:32.670 --> 00:05:37.149 Something like that. Dude, for that to happen 00:05:37.149 --> 00:05:39.970 with that game and it still turn out pretty good, 00:05:40.209 --> 00:05:44.550 it's impressive. I mean, it's the same thing. 00:05:45.189 --> 00:05:48.120 You're just walking around. killing zombies and 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:52.019 stuff. It's pretty similar to 1, but it's actually 00:05:52.019 --> 00:05:55.620 still pretty good. Alright, cool. Yeah, I would 00:05:55.620 --> 00:05:57.819 definitely buy it for $15. I want to get the 00:05:57.819 --> 00:06:00.779 DLC for it. I haven't played the DLC yet. For 00:06:00.779 --> 00:06:05.959 2? Yeah. That game's not cross -platform, right? 00:06:07.259 --> 00:06:11.199 I don't think so. I think we already looked at 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:13.759 it. Yeah, I think I did. I can't remember. Yeah, 00:06:13.819 --> 00:06:17.000 I don't think it is, which is fucking wild. in 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:19.819 today's day and age for anything not be yeah 00:06:19.819 --> 00:06:21.839 that kind of sucks not like we have time to play 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:26.139 video games together anyway uh i mean it's still 00:06:26.139 --> 00:06:29.720 nice what do we do with this yeah we're not doing 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.360 this together though maybe not at the same time 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:34.899 but all right yeah dude the first one's good 00:06:34.899 --> 00:06:37.560 i love the first one it's so good i want to get 00:06:37.560 --> 00:06:39.500 to the point where i start Finding the skulls 00:06:39.500 --> 00:06:41.000 again. Yeah, those were fun. Yeah, the skulls 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:42.399 were awesome. And getting the secret weapons. 00:06:42.540 --> 00:06:44.199 I love the secret weapons. Yeah, they were cool 00:06:44.199 --> 00:06:46.439 as fuck. Dude, so good. You start throwing knives 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:48.540 at zombies in the heading. Yeah, that was the 00:06:48.540 --> 00:06:50.180 dumbest. Dude, it's so awesome. And the bat. 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:51.579 Yeah, the home run bat. The second one, does 00:06:51.579 --> 00:06:54.500 it have anything like that? Not that I found, 00:06:54.579 --> 00:06:58.160 no. Oh, okay. Yeah, see, that's what was so fun 00:06:58.160 --> 00:06:59.980 about the first one. They just stopped doing 00:06:59.980 --> 00:07:02.980 that. I don't understand why. Yeah, I don't know. 00:07:03.139 --> 00:07:06.100 That has not been in games for the past, like, 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:10.399 half decade yeah i know there's stuff like that 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:13.319 just fun they took all the fun out of it yeah 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:16.600 i guess nobody plays video games for that anymore 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:19.399 everybody's fucking sweaty on multiplayer games 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:22.980 yeah maybe everybody wants a amazing storyline 00:07:22.980 --> 00:07:26.139 and like amazing gameplay yeah i mean i like 00:07:26.139 --> 00:07:30.139 that stuff too but yeah well of course but i 00:07:30.139 --> 00:07:33.160 don't know you can have all that and still have 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:36.600 like stupid shit in the game yeah yeah But you're 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:38.339 always going to get people now be like, oh, well, 00:07:38.339 --> 00:07:40.800 that breaks the game. Like, that's so unrealistic. 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:43.839 Yeah. There's always somebody with a dildo up 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:45.560 their ass that's going to complain. Yeah. It's 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:50.980 a zombie game, bro. It ain't real. Just everybody's 00:07:50.980 --> 00:07:54.019 just got so fucking, you know, lately, dude. 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:56.600 It's all them Chinese, though. Yeah. They got 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.379 to be so careful. The Chinese. Yeah. Got to cater 00:07:59.379 --> 00:08:02.579 to the to the Republic over there. I don't care. 00:08:03.449 --> 00:08:04.870 It's got nothing to do with me. Well, they do. 00:08:05.889 --> 00:08:10.949 It's ruining your games. Alright, what else we 00:08:10.949 --> 00:08:14.370 got? Is that it? Anything else? I haven't really 00:08:14.370 --> 00:08:16.290 been too much. Once I finished Sonic, I haven't 00:08:16.290 --> 00:08:19.490 really touched much. I think I just take a little 00:08:19.490 --> 00:08:21.649 break from video games. Yeah, understandable. 00:08:23.029 --> 00:08:26.410 I bought a bunch of books. I bought some Junji 00:08:26.410 --> 00:08:32.970 Ito. I got Tomy and Uzumaki. Nice. I haven't 00:08:32.970 --> 00:08:34.889 read them yet. I just got those. I know. I've 00:08:34.889 --> 00:08:36.990 seen that World of Horrors game was on sale. 00:08:37.049 --> 00:08:39.309 I was thinking about getting it. Oh, yeah. It's 00:08:39.309 --> 00:08:42.850 like that Ito -inspired game. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, 00:08:42.889 --> 00:08:44.250 I want to read them. They've been on my list 00:08:44.250 --> 00:08:46.629 for a while. Dude, I got the books, and they're 00:08:46.629 --> 00:08:48.230 freaking huge. I didn't think they were that 00:08:48.230 --> 00:08:51.450 big. Yeah, I've seen the one with Uzumaki. I've 00:08:51.450 --> 00:08:53.350 seen that one. That one's pretty big. Yeah, it's 00:08:53.350 --> 00:08:55.570 a big book. It's about the same size. I think 00:08:55.570 --> 00:08:57.269 it's actually a bit bigger. They had it at Walmart, 00:08:57.370 --> 00:08:59.809 but it was like $60. I was like, eh. Oh, bro, 00:08:59.870 --> 00:09:03.350 get them on Amazon. I think I paid fucking $15, 00:09:03.490 --> 00:09:06.830 $19. Oh, shit. Yeah, dude. Well, I think this 00:09:06.830 --> 00:09:09.289 one was like the hardcover, like nice one. Yeah, 00:09:09.330 --> 00:09:11.570 this is the hardcover one. Really? Damn. Yeah, 00:09:11.610 --> 00:09:13.750 dude. I always buy books on Amazon. They're cheap. 00:09:13.870 --> 00:09:15.730 Yeah, they're cheap. Well, sometimes Walmart 00:09:15.730 --> 00:09:19.929 has deals, but not always. Nah. Books are always 00:09:19.929 --> 00:09:21.769 good on Amazon, dude. Every time I look, they're 00:09:21.769 --> 00:09:23.669 on sale. Yeah, but you're supporting Amazon, 00:09:23.789 --> 00:09:28.309 though. Wow. I'm supporting my wallet. If you 00:09:28.309 --> 00:09:30.570 don't, a million other people. Yeah, I know. 00:09:30.649 --> 00:09:34.909 You don't win that battle. I finished that Berserk 00:09:34.909 --> 00:09:38.409 novel book. That was pretty good. Nice little 00:09:38.409 --> 00:09:41.730 read. That was a quick book. No pictures? There 00:09:41.730 --> 00:09:45.710 was actually like four illustrations from the 00:09:45.710 --> 00:09:49.690 actual guy who made Berserk. That's pretty low 00:09:49.690 --> 00:09:54.509 for you. Well, what? Wait, what's low? The amount 00:09:54.509 --> 00:10:02.220 of pictures? listen man it makes it easier that's 00:10:02.220 --> 00:10:05.799 one less page you have to read yeah uh i got 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:10.519 i had that uh tmnt um like a collection of books 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:12.899 yeah i was reading some of those it's called 00:10:12.899 --> 00:10:15.659 uh what's it called black white and green or 00:10:15.659 --> 00:10:17.600 white white black and green oh yeah i know which 00:10:17.600 --> 00:10:19.919 ones you're talking about yeah yeah yeah i've 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:21.659 read only read a couple of those but they're 00:10:21.659 --> 00:10:25.220 okay they're just like short little Yeah, I think 00:10:25.220 --> 00:10:26.879 Marvel started that with the red, white, and 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:28.799 black or something they were calling it. Yeah. 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:30.539 They were doing that. These are cool though because 00:10:30.539 --> 00:10:33.379 there's no other color, just black, white, and 00:10:33.379 --> 00:10:36.100 green. Yeah, those do look really cool. Yeah, 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.980 some of them, they're just short stories. Yeah, 00:10:39.220 --> 00:10:41.139 Marvel was doing the same stuff with their thing. 00:10:41.779 --> 00:10:45.559 Yeah. I think that's better. I don't think I 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:48.299 touched any video games. I was working on my 00:10:48.299 --> 00:10:52.600 car today. That sucked. Yeah. oh and i got another 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:54.840 book called uh i think it's called like my i'm 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:57.399 glad my mom died it was written by jeanette mccurdy 00:10:57.399 --> 00:10:59.440 oh yeah i heard that's good i've heard that's 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:01.779 good yeah i want to read it so i bought that 00:11:01.779 --> 00:11:05.480 but uh other than that i haven't been doing too 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.720 much cool cool yeah i've been i started with 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:10.559 some of my mangas i'd started that walking cat 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:14.620 one with a cat yeah nice it's pretty good it's 00:11:14.620 --> 00:11:18.419 it's got some funnies in it you know um but like 00:11:18.419 --> 00:11:21.000 he like chews on the dude's feet and stuff he's 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.500 booping zombies and stuff and everything so nice 00:11:23.500 --> 00:11:28.799 yeah um but it's pretty good i like it um i started 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:33.059 spider -man 2 for the ps5 yeah it's sick bro 00:11:33.059 --> 00:11:36.899 it's so good it's amazing yeah it's pretty crazy 00:11:36.899 --> 00:11:41.220 i like i i like the um like how you can play 00:11:41.220 --> 00:11:42.720 as one of the spider -men but then the other 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:44.360 one will come in and help you sometimes just 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:46.340 randomly doing fights and stuff that was sick 00:11:46.340 --> 00:11:50.259 bro that's so awesome um such a good game yeah 00:11:50.259 --> 00:11:53.639 it's awesome yeah yeah the only thing i have 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:55.799 one complaint i guess i have a couple complaints 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:57.720 the only thing is it's a little bit slower than 00:11:57.720 --> 00:11:59.740 the first one which is fine i guess i know they're 00:11:59.740 --> 00:12:01.600 trying to tell a story but like some of the beats 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:03.399 were just like so slow i'm like all right let's 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:06.039 pick this up a little bit and then i don't want 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:08.539 to sound like an incel but what the fuck did 00:12:08.539 --> 00:12:10.919 they do to peter parker and mj's character models 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:15.320 dude They look so bad, man. Yeah. Like, they 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:17.879 looked fine in the first one, and then they just, 00:12:17.940 --> 00:12:20.360 I don't know what the fuck they did. But then, 00:12:20.379 --> 00:12:23.019 like, Aunt May looked totally fine. I watched 00:12:23.019 --> 00:12:25.820 her thing and, like, Miles' mom and stuff. Like, 00:12:25.820 --> 00:12:29.159 and Miles looks good. Yeah. And when you're actually 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:31.360 playing as Spider -Man, he looks fucking awesome. 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:33.179 Yeah. Like, I don't know why they fucked with 00:12:33.179 --> 00:12:37.759 it, but. I don't know. I was told that the reason 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:40.980 for the face change, which, by the way. That 00:12:40.980 --> 00:12:43.620 face change started in Spider -Man Remastered. 00:12:43.620 --> 00:12:45.299 Yeah, I know they didn't, the original one, yeah. 00:12:45.379 --> 00:12:48.500 Right. But for what I heard, I think the face 00:12:48.500 --> 00:12:51.580 model, the new face model for Spider -Man is 00:12:51.580 --> 00:12:54.779 more based on the person that voice acts him, 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.539 I think. I'm not sure. Or maybe they got someone 00:12:57.539 --> 00:13:00.240 else. I think they got some different model for 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:03.139 him, or actor for him for some reason, like a 00:13:03.139 --> 00:13:05.460 face model. I don't know why. What is it, a contract 00:13:05.460 --> 00:13:07.899 they had to change it or something? I don't know. 00:13:07.980 --> 00:13:11.279 I read it somewhere in a blog post that they 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:13.179 wrote. When you already have a game and you're 00:13:13.179 --> 00:13:15.360 making the second game, you probably need a new 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:20.679 model. It makes no sense. Whatever. That game's 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.820 not perfect. I still think the first one's better. 00:13:23.440 --> 00:13:27.620 I can see that. It's still fucking awesome. That's 00:13:27.620 --> 00:13:29.960 the only complaint I have so far. The combat, 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:33.740 they changed, but they added more stuff and it's 00:13:33.740 --> 00:13:39.190 dope. It's really good. but yeah other than that 00:13:39.190 --> 00:13:41.110 not too much i've been watching game center cx 00:13:41.110 --> 00:13:43.049 got some new episodes out i don't know if anybody 00:13:43.049 --> 00:13:45.129 watches that i love that show that dude's so 00:13:45.129 --> 00:13:47.250 funny man i love that guy i love when we were 00:13:47.250 --> 00:13:49.570 watching those together yeah he's just that guy 00:13:49.570 --> 00:13:51.970 just so joyful and just the way he interacts 00:13:51.970 --> 00:13:55.149 with people is so fucking funny man yeah i was 00:13:55.149 --> 00:13:56.690 watching one where he went to the arcade ones 00:13:56.690 --> 00:13:58.889 and uh like there's some older japanese women 00:13:58.889 --> 00:14:00.789 like talking to him while he was trying to record 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:03.200 And he's like, you guys want to be on camera? 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:04.940 And then they get all shy and run away and stuff. 00:14:05.039 --> 00:14:08.519 Oh, man. It was so funny. I was going to say, 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:12.679 I got the juicy monkey. That IPA? Yeah, I've 00:14:12.679 --> 00:14:14.620 been drinking the juicy monkey. I was thinking 00:14:14.620 --> 00:14:16.620 about drinking a berry monkey right now. Yeah. 00:14:16.940 --> 00:14:23.340 I got some koala mango crush or something. Oh, 00:14:23.360 --> 00:14:26.960 yeah? A beer? Yeah, it was a sour. That sounds 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:29.409 pretty good. And it was pretty good. I gotta 00:14:29.409 --> 00:14:31.730 look for different powers. Gorilla Crush. It 00:14:31.730 --> 00:14:33.269 was like Gorilla Crush or something. It was actually 00:14:33.269 --> 00:14:36.470 pretty good. And then I got Blueberry Crumble 00:14:36.470 --> 00:14:40.909 Cider. Oh, dude, that was so good. That sounds 00:14:40.909 --> 00:14:43.070 awesome. Me and Jeremy drank the shit out of 00:14:43.070 --> 00:14:45.429 those. Yeah, that sounds pretty good. Yeah, like, 00:14:45.570 --> 00:14:48.600 this Juicy Monkey, it's an IPA, but... which 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:50.659 I don't usually like them, but this is actually 00:14:50.659 --> 00:14:53.139 not awful. It's got like a pineapple, like cherry, 00:14:53.220 --> 00:14:54.899 like fruit punch taste to it. And it's actually 00:14:54.899 --> 00:14:57.480 pretty good. I never had the juicy monks. I only 00:14:57.480 --> 00:15:00.379 had the berry and the sour monkey. Yeah. Those 00:15:00.379 --> 00:15:02.080 are both good, but I think you'd like this one. 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:04.139 It's still an IPA, but it's like a drinkable 00:15:04.139 --> 00:15:08.480 one. I actually like it. So, and then, I mean, 00:15:08.500 --> 00:15:10.799 I really liked the berry monkey. So yeah. Yeah. 00:15:10.860 --> 00:15:14.320 I like their stuff. I like this company. So anybody 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:18.669 got anything else? No. All right. Then let's 00:15:18.669 --> 00:15:35.570 jump over into our game. Okay, uh, we are playing, 00:15:35.570 --> 00:15:38.710 uh, Sonic Advance. It was developed by Dimps, 00:15:38.850 --> 00:15:43.759 um, which they done... I think they did a Neo 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.379 Geo Sonic game before this, which is why they 00:15:46.379 --> 00:15:49.120 were chosen for this. Okay. Yeah, I know, right? 00:15:49.220 --> 00:15:51.299 It was so random. But they developed, it was 00:15:51.299 --> 00:15:52.899 developed by Dimps, but they worked with the 00:15:52.899 --> 00:15:56.340 Sonic team for this. And it was published by 00:15:56.340 --> 00:15:59.360 THQ in America for the Game Boy Advance in 2001. 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:02.019 And then this Dimps game company actually went 00:16:02.019 --> 00:16:05.080 and made a Sonic Rush for the DS and stuff and 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:08.360 a bunch of other ones. Oh, nice. Yeah. This is 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:11.259 the first. Sonic game, along with Adventure 2 00:16:11.259 --> 00:16:13.200 Battle. They were released on the same day, and 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:15.100 it's the first Sonic game for a Nintendo console. 00:16:15.779 --> 00:16:18.960 Which, if anyone's old enough to know, Sega and 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:21.899 Nintendo in the 90s there, dude, they were at 00:16:21.899 --> 00:16:24.200 each other's throats for a while. It's always 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:27.179 crazy to me to see Sega on Nintendo consoles. 00:16:27.500 --> 00:16:30.059 It was also one of the first games to take advantage 00:16:30.059 --> 00:16:32.299 of the GameCube, Game Boy Advance cable, because 00:16:32.299 --> 00:16:34.460 you could trade Chao and stuff back and forth 00:16:34.460 --> 00:16:37.279 with the GameCube, which is pretty cool. Yeah, 00:16:37.299 --> 00:16:39.529 it's pretty cool. Alright, were you guys, did 00:16:39.529 --> 00:16:42.429 you guys beat this game? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't 00:16:42.429 --> 00:16:44.649 get the good ending. I was having problems getting 00:16:44.649 --> 00:16:48.009 all the emeralds. Yeah. Dude, I had problems 00:16:48.009 --> 00:16:50.230 like you did with my game. Yeah, we'll come back 00:16:50.230 --> 00:16:53.870 to that. But yeah, I beat it too. Honestly, you 00:16:53.870 --> 00:16:55.309 didn't miss much with the good ending. There 00:16:55.309 --> 00:16:58.070 wasn't too much there, but. Yeah, yeah, I know. 00:16:58.210 --> 00:17:00.700 We'll get to that. All right, so Sonic Advance, 00:17:00.980 --> 00:17:04.720 it's a 2D sprite -based game. It's just classic 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:07.640 Sonic, you know, running through 2D levels. Robotnik's 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:09.680 trying to turn all the animals into robots because 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:12.680 he hates biology, I guess. I don't know. He just 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:14.900 really likes robots a lot. And you can play as 00:17:14.900 --> 00:17:20.759 Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, or Amy and run through 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:24.740 the worlds and try and stop Robotnik. Which I 00:17:24.740 --> 00:17:27.220 thought was pretty cool. They added new players. 00:17:27.299 --> 00:17:29.789 I think this is their first time. Well, other 00:17:29.789 --> 00:17:31.869 than the 3D Sonic Adventure, but I think this 00:17:31.869 --> 00:17:34.589 is the first time you can play as Amy in a 2D. 00:17:34.630 --> 00:17:36.349 Yeah, I think this is the first Amy game. 2D 00:17:36.349 --> 00:17:38.930 game. You can play as her in Adventure on the 00:17:38.930 --> 00:17:41.150 Dreamcast, which came out before this, but as 00:17:41.150 --> 00:17:43.910 a 2D one, I think this is the first 2D one. Yeah, 00:17:43.990 --> 00:17:46.950 I mean, it's classic 2D. It's definitely reminiscent 00:17:46.950 --> 00:17:50.650 of the old Genesis games. I think this game has 00:17:50.650 --> 00:17:53.329 a pretty good sense of speed compared to the 00:17:53.329 --> 00:17:56.839 older ones and stuff. Yeah, I don't know. I think 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:58.819 the older ones were better, in my opinion. Oh, 00:17:58.819 --> 00:18:00.579 yeah, definitely. I mean, for sure. But I'm just 00:18:00.579 --> 00:18:02.539 saying, like, there's some parts in this game 00:18:02.539 --> 00:18:05.079 where the screen and stuff, like the sense of 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:07.200 speed is actually pretty good. Yeah, that's my 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:10.039 biggest gripe with Sonic games sometimes. Yeah. 00:18:10.059 --> 00:18:13.460 I feel like you're not moving fast enough. Well, 00:18:13.579 --> 00:18:15.700 I mean, a lot of people forget, but these are 00:18:15.700 --> 00:18:18.579 platformers. They're platforming games. Yeah, 00:18:18.579 --> 00:18:22.299 and I think in my head that I don't want to play 00:18:22.299 --> 00:18:25.180 a platformer in Sonic. I can understand that. 00:18:25.299 --> 00:18:29.140 But this game, i don't know i'm 50 50 on this 00:18:29.140 --> 00:18:30.539 one because there's definitely parts which i 00:18:30.539 --> 00:18:32.380 was impressed with like with the speed on this 00:18:32.380 --> 00:18:36.039 game um but then i don't know i feel like the 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.579 level designer fucking hates sonic the hedgehog 00:18:38.579 --> 00:18:42.140 i don't know what his problem was but the level 00:18:42.140 --> 00:18:44.460 design on some of these levels wars was fucking 00:18:44.460 --> 00:18:47.700 atrocious it's just like he's trolling you i 00:18:47.700 --> 00:18:49.680 don't understand what the point of it was like 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:52.400 that's what i'm saying like i want to like I 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:54.559 know I have to platform, but I don't want to 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:58.099 be intentionally hit. Yeah. There were so many 00:18:58.099 --> 00:19:00.680 times that enemies were put in the exact right 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:02.819 spot to hit you. There were so many times where 00:19:02.819 --> 00:19:04.920 spikes were... Spikes? Yeah, put there exactly 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:09.799 to hit you. It was those trolling springs to 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:13.079 send you back. And the older games had that, 00:19:13.140 --> 00:19:15.000 but nowhere near the amount that this game had. 00:19:15.380 --> 00:19:18.059 Yeah, and I mean, some of them were avoidable, 00:19:18.140 --> 00:19:20.119 too. You know what I mean? These ones are... 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:22.680 pretty much not avoidable. Yeah. Unless if you've 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.019 already played the level like 10 times. Even 00:19:25.019 --> 00:19:27.039 sometimes if you even knew it was there, there's 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.079 sometimes nothing you could do to stop it. Not 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:31.380 much you can do about it. Yeah. Yeah. I said 00:19:31.380 --> 00:19:33.859 most of the time, like, that stuff's off screen 00:19:33.859 --> 00:19:37.380 too. Well, you'll hit a... Dude, I could go on 00:19:37.380 --> 00:19:38.900 for hours about this, but there is... You could 00:19:38.900 --> 00:19:41.279 hit a spring and then it would just hit you right 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:44.220 into spikes or an enemy and once you hit that 00:19:44.220 --> 00:19:46.000 spring, you can't do anything. Yeah. It's just 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:48.359 going to bring you right to it and it's so annoying. 00:19:48.660 --> 00:19:50.970 Yep. Dude, I could talk for hours about this, 00:19:51.029 --> 00:19:53.809 but there was this thing with Sonic games where 00:19:53.809 --> 00:19:56.490 when you gain speed, you run to the right of 00:19:56.490 --> 00:19:59.450 the screen and then you lose all agency on being 00:19:59.450 --> 00:20:01.809 able to do anything about anything that comes 00:20:01.809 --> 00:20:05.130 at you. You have no reaction time. And for these 00:20:05.130 --> 00:20:07.170 older games, and especially for like these handheld 00:20:07.170 --> 00:20:09.230 games, I can kind of understand that because 00:20:09.230 --> 00:20:13.049 there's a limitation to the hardware. But like 00:20:13.049 --> 00:20:15.289 for the newer games, like I played Sonic Superstars. 00:20:15.849 --> 00:20:18.089 It's running on a PS5 and it does the same dumb 00:20:18.089 --> 00:20:22.470 shit. When Sonic gains speed, put him into the 00:20:22.470 --> 00:20:24.529 middle of the screen and pull the camera back 00:20:24.529 --> 00:20:28.130 so a player is able to see the level and have 00:20:28.130 --> 00:20:30.109 a reaction time to what's coming up. I don't 00:20:30.109 --> 00:20:32.730 understand why they do that shit. That's what 00:20:32.730 --> 00:20:35.450 I'm saying. Sonic is literally supposed to be 00:20:35.450 --> 00:20:38.529 the fastest thing in the world. Yes. In the universe. 00:20:38.829 --> 00:20:43.450 Right. And I can't run fast. Well, and the problem 00:20:43.450 --> 00:20:46.559 with that is the game... you as the player aren't 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:48.099 playing as Sonic the Hedgehog, you're trying 00:20:48.099 --> 00:20:50.720 to control Sonic the Hedgehog. And that's a problem 00:20:50.720 --> 00:20:52.960 because he's so fast. The game should be able 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.559 to let you actually play as Sonic and give you 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:59.200 the ability to react to those things, but the 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:01.359 game design doesn't do that. That's what I'm 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.920 saying. I want that sense of speed. I want to 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.460 go fast. I want to run at fucking a thousand 00:21:06.460 --> 00:21:09.220 miles an hour or whatever. I want to be able 00:21:09.220 --> 00:21:12.160 to do that. And I feel like most games, they 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:14.480 just don't... They don't accomplish that sense 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:17.019 of speed. They don't. I feel like the third one, 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.279 3 and Knuckles, there was a lot of parts where 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:21.000 they handled that pretty well. I mean, that one 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.299 has its... 3 was definitely, like, definitely... 00:21:23.299 --> 00:21:25.640 Like, I want it to be fluid. Yeah. You know what 00:21:25.640 --> 00:21:28.619 I mean? Yeah, 3 and Knuckles did it a lot better. 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:30.140 There was still bullshit in that game, too, but 00:21:30.140 --> 00:21:33.019 that one, I feel like, is the peak of that. When 00:21:33.019 --> 00:21:35.500 I'm going fast, I want to stay fast, and then 00:21:35.500 --> 00:21:37.700 when I get to an area that's a platforming area, 00:21:37.819 --> 00:21:39.700 then I want to do the platforming. Right, exactly. 00:21:40.380 --> 00:21:43.119 Break it in sections, not like, you know, jam 00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:45.880 it all together. This game has fast into a spike 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:49.079 and then you got a platform. Yeah. Yeah. It's 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:54.140 aggravating. It was. And I feel like every single 00:21:54.140 --> 00:21:57.839 thing was set up in the perfect way to hit you. 00:21:58.140 --> 00:22:00.140 Because like sometimes you jump on a platform 00:22:00.140 --> 00:22:02.799 and then one of the enemies would fire, had already 00:22:02.799 --> 00:22:05.039 fired at you to hit you while you were on the 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:08.430 platform. Oh my God, dude. Yup. It's just everything 00:22:08.430 --> 00:22:10.970 with that game. There was no room to breathe 00:22:10.970 --> 00:22:13.309 in this game. It was so annoying. Dude, and I 00:22:13.309 --> 00:22:17.910 hate this. In Sonic, when you spin Dash, it's 00:22:17.910 --> 00:22:20.609 to build up speed and so you can move along. 00:22:20.849 --> 00:22:24.809 This game is basically impossible to do that 00:22:24.809 --> 00:22:27.170 because you just either get hit or fall off the 00:22:27.170 --> 00:22:30.430 stage. Yeah, yeah. Especially in the ice level. 00:22:30.569 --> 00:22:33.769 There's a little fucking... Bumper that shoots 00:22:33.769 --> 00:22:37.410 you over if you spin dash you just go right over 00:22:37.410 --> 00:22:40.190 and fall off the stage. Yeah Yeah, what if I'm 00:22:40.190 --> 00:22:42.769 spin dashing or running it shouldn't matter I 00:22:42.769 --> 00:22:44.269 don't know and then they had the ice that slowed 00:22:44.269 --> 00:22:45.890 you down or the snow that slowed you down and 00:22:45.890 --> 00:22:48.970 stuff there, too And then that boss was bullshit. 00:22:49.190 --> 00:22:52.630 It's like sonic. Fuck that boss. Yeah, he's a 00:22:52.630 --> 00:22:55.710 little tough Yeah, yeah, you gotta like the jumping 00:22:55.710 --> 00:22:57.769 is weird because you can actually jump higher 00:22:57.769 --> 00:22:59.569 than what you think Yeah, well, it's cuz you're 00:22:59.569 --> 00:23:02.319 underwater. Yeah Yeah, I mean, I know we're bitching 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:04.660 on it, but I did like this game. I mean, the 00:23:04.660 --> 00:23:06.579 levels... I did enjoy the game, too. The levels 00:23:06.579 --> 00:23:09.599 were cool. I mean, I liked the good parts of 00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:12.420 the levels. They were fun. It's not a bad game, 00:23:12.500 --> 00:23:15.019 but it's not a great game. Yeah, I agree with 00:23:15.019 --> 00:23:17.420 that. But I also like, too, because you could 00:23:17.420 --> 00:23:19.200 play through as four different characters, and 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:20.700 even though it's the same levels, it kind of 00:23:20.700 --> 00:23:24.259 gives a new feel to each level. Kind of. Yeah, 00:23:24.259 --> 00:23:27.339 it's like replayability a little bit. Yeah. That's 00:23:27.339 --> 00:23:29.930 another gripe I have, though, because... Whether 00:23:29.930 --> 00:23:33.289 I'm playing as Sonic, Knuckles, or Tails, you 00:23:33.289 --> 00:23:38.230 know, the speed is still the same. Yeah, it's 00:23:38.230 --> 00:23:41.289 true. Like, Sonic needs to be faster. Sonic is 00:23:41.289 --> 00:23:43.769 fast. He needs to be faster than Knuckles and 00:23:43.769 --> 00:23:45.809 Tails. Well, part of the problem with that is, 00:23:45.910 --> 00:23:49.809 and 3 did this a little bit too, is like, there's 00:23:49.809 --> 00:23:51.549 no difference in the levels. Like, when you play 00:23:51.549 --> 00:23:52.950 as Knuckles, you don't go anywhere different. 00:23:53.289 --> 00:23:55.509 you know like in three there was some of that 00:23:55.509 --> 00:23:58.390 where like kind of can if you like fly yeah there's 00:23:58.390 --> 00:24:01.609 certain parts tails yeah exactly yeah there were 00:24:01.609 --> 00:24:03.349 certain parts in three where like only knuckles 00:24:03.349 --> 00:24:05.750 could go and only sonic could go but they didn't 00:24:05.750 --> 00:24:08.250 do that at all in this one i feel like they should 00:24:08.250 --> 00:24:11.289 have made like it was still the same level and 00:24:11.289 --> 00:24:12.869 like there would still be parts that you would 00:24:12.869 --> 00:24:14.430 play together as the same but there should have 00:24:14.430 --> 00:24:16.829 been like specific knuckles parts specific tails 00:24:16.829 --> 00:24:19.880 parts but they didn't do any of that yeah Which, 00:24:19.900 --> 00:24:21.480 I mean, I understand. I mean, it's a small handheld 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:24.180 game made by a company that's only done one Sonic 00:24:24.180 --> 00:24:26.359 game before, so I understand, but it would have 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:28.859 been cool to see that. So, yeah, so, like, Sonic 00:24:28.859 --> 00:24:31.180 and Knuckles are pretty similar. Tails kind of 00:24:31.180 --> 00:24:33.839 just breaks the game. You just fly over everything, 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:36.000 yeah. I mean, he just breaks the game. And then 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:37.759 the bosses become meaningless. Like, Tails can 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:40.299 just hit him with all his, like, the ice boss. 00:24:40.400 --> 00:24:41.940 You can just swim up there and hit him constantly. 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:45.970 But the big thing is, like, Amy? amy is so fundamentally 00:24:45.970 --> 00:24:49.250 different yeah like she handles so weird like 00:24:49.250 --> 00:24:51.970 honestly to me she felt like a fan mod like someone 00:24:51.970 --> 00:24:54.509 added her into the game afterwards yeah it was 00:24:54.509 --> 00:24:57.109 definitely a weird experience yeah and some of 00:24:57.109 --> 00:24:58.990 those levels weren't even designed i feel like 00:24:58.990 --> 00:25:00.990 she was an afterthought because there was a couple 00:25:00.990 --> 00:25:02.990 parts where i kind of like got stuck as even 00:25:02.990 --> 00:25:05.390 like how the hell do i get out of here she can 00:25:05.390 --> 00:25:09.410 do like a big leap jump yeah And I didn't know 00:25:09.410 --> 00:25:12.289 that until like halfway by the time I was done 00:25:12.289 --> 00:25:13.609 with the game with her. Well, you can't spin 00:25:13.609 --> 00:25:15.529 dash with her and you can't jump on enemies with 00:25:15.529 --> 00:25:18.109 her. You have to use a hammer. Yep. I mean, I 00:25:18.109 --> 00:25:19.750 guess you can kind of jump on enemies with her, 00:25:19.789 --> 00:25:22.789 but it's like a weird spin thing. It's not like 00:25:22.789 --> 00:25:25.349 the normal Sonic attack. But I don't know. It 00:25:25.349 --> 00:25:27.589 was fun to play. It's tough, but it's fun to 00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:28.670 play with her because it's a new... It's cool 00:25:28.670 --> 00:25:32.170 because it is different. This is such a short 00:25:32.170 --> 00:25:35.230 game though, so it doesn't... It is, yeah. And 00:25:35.230 --> 00:25:37.529 then the fact that you can save after every level, 00:25:37.630 --> 00:25:40.269 it doesn't, it makes it, like, pretty easy. Because, 00:25:40.309 --> 00:25:41.769 like, the older games, well, I don't know, I 00:25:41.769 --> 00:25:44.089 guess in Sonic 3 you could save, too, but that 00:25:44.089 --> 00:25:46.509 definitely, like, brings the length of the game 00:25:46.509 --> 00:25:48.150 down, the fact that you don't have to start over 00:25:48.150 --> 00:25:50.009 every time you die. Which was kind of weird, 00:25:50.029 --> 00:25:52.410 because they had continues, but they didn't really 00:25:52.410 --> 00:25:55.750 do anything. Yeah, I mean, you don't really need 00:25:55.750 --> 00:25:58.849 them unless you're on the second level. I guess, 00:25:58.970 --> 00:26:00.589 but doesn't it save after the first one anyway, 00:26:00.650 --> 00:26:02.269 or does it only save after you beat the second 00:26:02.269 --> 00:26:05.670 level? Yeah, I mean, I guess it's useless anyway. 00:26:05.930 --> 00:26:08.089 Yeah, so I never used one, so I don't really 00:26:08.089 --> 00:26:10.950 know what it continues for. I was only using 00:26:10.950 --> 00:26:15.029 them when I was trying to get the emeralds. Yeah, 00:26:15.130 --> 00:26:16.549 that I can see, but I'm pretty sure it saves 00:26:16.549 --> 00:26:18.690 after every level. Unless it only saves after 00:26:18.690 --> 00:26:21.289 you beat the boss, I don't actually know. I don't 00:26:21.289 --> 00:26:24.529 know. This game is so easy to just stop in this 00:26:24.529 --> 00:26:26.910 game. I didn't actually check that out, but okay. 00:26:27.390 --> 00:26:30.589 So, yeah, let's talk about emeralds. Oh, God. 00:26:33.379 --> 00:26:35.859 So I had lots of fun with this. Let me go ahead 00:26:35.859 --> 00:26:39.859 and talk real quick. So in the old original Sonics, 00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:42.180 when you get emeralds, when you go to the special 00:26:42.180 --> 00:26:44.900 stage, you start at stage one. It doesn't matter 00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:47.559 if you find the ring in the final stage. You 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:50.319 start on special stage one, and then you play 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:52.079 through them. You start at one, you go to two, 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:55.539 you go to three, right? In this game, that doesn't 00:26:55.539 --> 00:27:02.170 happen. Each spring is set to the stage. I found 00:27:02.170 --> 00:27:04.529 the final stage first, and I was playing that 00:27:04.529 --> 00:27:06.650 one, and I was like, this is the first stage? 00:27:06.869 --> 00:27:08.869 Holy crap, I'm never going to get all these emeralds. 00:27:08.930 --> 00:27:11.029 I thought I was starting out on the hardest one, 00:27:11.109 --> 00:27:12.589 and I didn't realize this, and I was like, holy 00:27:12.589 --> 00:27:15.009 crap, these are impossible. Yeah, that last one 00:27:15.009 --> 00:27:18.089 is really tough. Dude, I didn't realize until 00:27:18.089 --> 00:27:19.930 I beat it that that was the last one, and I was 00:27:19.930 --> 00:27:22.109 like, Jesus Christ. I bet the other ones were 00:27:22.109 --> 00:27:24.490 easier after that. Yeah, I mean, it only took 00:27:24.490 --> 00:27:26.670 me like two or three tries after that, but man, 00:27:26.829 --> 00:27:28.869 I was ready to pull my hair out. I was like, 00:27:28.890 --> 00:27:29.789 I don't know if I'm going to be able to get all 00:27:29.789 --> 00:27:32.970 these emeralds. Yeah, the special stage. So it's 00:27:32.970 --> 00:27:36.309 like this weird pseudo 3D thing. I feel like 00:27:36.309 --> 00:27:41.250 they kind of do twos, like pipe thing. But it 00:27:41.250 --> 00:27:45.549 doesn't work as good. They did not pick the right 00:27:45.549 --> 00:27:49.170 thing for this game. No. No. They should have 00:27:49.170 --> 00:27:51.569 just either left the pipe thing alone. Yeah. 00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:55.359 Just because they went too complicated on a handheld 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.660 that can't handle it. Yeah. They, they try to 00:27:57.660 --> 00:27:59.539 do a pseudo 3d thing where you're falling down 00:27:59.539 --> 00:28:02.180 a pipe and you're trying to collect coins or 00:28:02.180 --> 00:28:05.980 ring. I hate saying coins rings. And, uh, it's 00:28:05.980 --> 00:28:07.700 like in this 3d area, but it's sometimes it's 00:28:07.700 --> 00:28:10.420 really hard to tell where you are in relation 00:28:10.420 --> 00:28:13.359 to the rings. So especially in that last one 00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:17.000 is yeah. On that last one, there's a first set 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.470 of rings and I kept. not getting it i'm like 00:28:19.470 --> 00:28:21.490 where the hell am i supposed to be lined up because 00:28:21.490 --> 00:28:23.390 i thought i was right over it and i wasn't yeah 00:28:23.390 --> 00:28:25.750 you're on like a hoverboard thing or whatever 00:28:25.750 --> 00:28:27.829 and you're supposed to it's like kind of like 00:28:27.829 --> 00:28:31.329 where that is yeah i they should just give you 00:28:31.329 --> 00:28:33.269 like a shadow an arrow or something i don't know 00:28:33.269 --> 00:28:34.869 they should have gave you some kind of thing 00:28:34.869 --> 00:28:37.890 i had to play the first one like 20 times and 00:28:37.890 --> 00:28:40.150 then i finally clicked with me like where i needed 00:28:40.150 --> 00:28:44.170 to go yeah and then after that i i had a couple 00:28:44.170 --> 00:28:45.809 problems with some of them and then the last 00:28:45.809 --> 00:28:48.579 one was tough yeah It's just impossible to judge, 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.339 dude. Yeah, it is. You can play the level like 00:28:51.339 --> 00:28:53.839 10, 15 times and still miss some because it's 00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:57.660 just not the console for it. Oh, also, yeah, 00:28:57.700 --> 00:28:59.859 while you're falling down, there's like a little, 00:29:00.019 --> 00:29:03.900 I don't know, was it like green orb thing? Oh, 00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:06.779 they're gold. They're gold. Oh, gold. Something, 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:10.700 yeah. And I had no idea what the hell that was 00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:12.420 about. I either just kept saying failure. I'm 00:29:12.420 --> 00:29:14.599 like, what the hell? And then I found out you 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:17.150 could trick. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't even know you 00:29:17.150 --> 00:29:18.609 could do that. You have to do a trick in that. 00:29:19.470 --> 00:29:23.970 It's like as soon as it makes a sound. Timing 00:29:23.970 --> 00:29:26.410 that was a pain. And you get a bunch of coins 00:29:26.410 --> 00:29:29.869 for it too. Rings. Yeah, rings. Sorry. Yeah, 00:29:29.910 --> 00:29:33.430 I know. So I was doing them, but I wasn't doing 00:29:33.430 --> 00:29:35.369 the tricks. And I'm like, how am I supposed to 00:29:35.369 --> 00:29:39.410 get like 20 more rings? It took me a while to 00:29:39.410 --> 00:29:42.250 figure that out too. Yeah, and then after you 00:29:42.250 --> 00:29:44.500 get them all, all the emeralds. You don't even 00:29:44.500 --> 00:29:47.359 really get to beat Super Sonic anyway. No. There's 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:49.839 one tiny level at the end of the game. You have 00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:51.720 to beat the final boss again, and then you fly 00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:56.440 off to the moon, and you play Super Sonic on 00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.359 this one level, and it's such a simple boss. 00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.900 He was so easy to finish. You get the nice ending 00:30:03.900 --> 00:30:06.339 where Sonic falls from the moon after a few days. 00:30:06.420 --> 00:30:07.880 I don't know what the fuck he was doing up there 00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:10.339 for a few days. Hanging out, bro. He was just 00:30:10.339 --> 00:30:12.920 hanging out. It said a few days later, and then 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:15.519 he comes falling down from the sky. I guess, 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:17.000 I don't know if they just added it as an extra 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.339 thing at the end, but it was fun. I enjoyed it. 00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:20.920 You know, it was cool to at least have it in 00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:23.119 there. Yeah. I know, I feel like we're shitting 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:25.819 on this game a lot, but I liked playing this 00:30:25.819 --> 00:30:28.619 game. There's a lot wrong with this game, but 00:30:28.619 --> 00:30:31.519 it is still a decent game. Dude, finding those 00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.559 springs? Yeah. Impossible. I'm not gonna lie, 00:30:34.619 --> 00:30:35.940 I looked up a map for those. I looked everything 00:30:35.940 --> 00:30:38.539 up, dude. Yeah. Because it's almost impossible 00:30:38.539 --> 00:30:42.029 to find those. Which is what's really nice in 00:30:42.029 --> 00:30:44.289 this game I was gonna say real quick before you 00:30:44.289 --> 00:30:46.490 get to that They actually did a pretty good job 00:30:46.490 --> 00:30:47.970 because when you actually look at the maps for 00:30:47.970 --> 00:30:50.410 these games, they're actually not that big They're 00:30:50.410 --> 00:30:51.950 really not there's not a lot of to them But they 00:30:51.950 --> 00:30:53.750 did a really good job of taking these tiny mass 00:30:53.750 --> 00:30:55.529 and making them feel like they're really gigantic 00:30:55.529 --> 00:30:58.190 Because yeah, like you said finding those rings 00:30:58.190 --> 00:31:01.569 is kind of a bitch But dude Daria talk when you 00:31:01.569 --> 00:31:03.089 actually look at the maps, they're really actually 00:31:03.089 --> 00:31:05.990 not that big. I think I only found one by myself 00:31:05.990 --> 00:31:08.529 Yeah, I did too which was the last one. Yeah 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.799 I found the one in the Angel Island. Yeah, okay. 00:31:13.180 --> 00:31:16.960 That's the only one I found. I will say they 00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:20.220 did a good job on making these levels feel rather 00:31:20.220 --> 00:31:24.200 large. Yeah, I agree. I think it's because they 00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.599 made them more vertical, more height, instead 00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.859 of them more horizontal and stretching them out. 00:31:31.140 --> 00:31:34.259 Yeah, it's true. In certain levels, there's levels 00:31:34.259 --> 00:31:38.750 to it. You can have the bottom part of the level, 00:31:38.869 --> 00:31:40.950 or you can go in the middle, and then you can 00:31:40.950 --> 00:31:44.849 go up high, too. There's also a lot of going 00:31:44.849 --> 00:31:47.450 left in this game, too. Yeah, that's something 00:31:47.450 --> 00:31:50.349 Sonic does. You'll get to a certain point. All 00:31:50.349 --> 00:31:52.589 three of those areas will get to a certain point, 00:31:52.710 --> 00:31:54.390 and then you go back to the left a little bit, 00:31:54.470 --> 00:31:57.349 and then it'll go back and open up again. Yeah, 00:31:57.410 --> 00:31:59.130 circling back to the emeralds. It's actually 00:31:59.130 --> 00:32:01.269 really nice in this game, though, because whether 00:32:01.269 --> 00:32:03.539 you get the emerald with... Tails, Knuckles, 00:32:03.799 --> 00:32:08.640 Sonic, or Amy, you keep them for everybody. So 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:12.279 I was just using Tails to farm the emeralds because 00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:15.819 getting to those springs is impossible. You do 00:32:15.819 --> 00:32:17.380 have to beat the level. You beat the level and 00:32:17.380 --> 00:32:19.880 then it'll save the emerald for everybody. And 00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:21.799 that's another thing. It'll save emeralds. You 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:23.180 don't have to get them all in one run and stuff. 00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:27.559 Yeah, once you turn the game off, you still keep 00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:30.339 the emeralds. It's not like the old ones, which 00:32:30.339 --> 00:32:34.259 makes it easier. yeah i to do this in one sitting 00:32:34.259 --> 00:32:37.059 yeah this was like one of the genesis games i 00:32:37.059 --> 00:32:38.680 don't know if i would have beat it it would be 00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:41.579 it would be tough yeah yeah that achievement 00:32:41.579 --> 00:32:44.099 to like get all the emeralds i was like oh man 00:32:44.099 --> 00:32:46.640 that's gonna suck yeah yeah but i didn't know 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:48.299 you kept them at that point yeah because like 00:32:48.299 --> 00:32:51.160 in the old ones if you miss one that's it you 00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.579 have to find the next Although this one only 00:32:53.579 --> 00:32:55.299 has a set number of springs and the old ones, 00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:56.960 you know, you could keep trying. You have multiple 00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:59.559 chances. But if you miss one, though, you can't 00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.200 go back. You have to go to the next one. That's 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:02.259 why I was like, oh, man, this is going to be 00:33:02.259 --> 00:33:05.619 tough. Because if I mess up on the last special 00:33:05.619 --> 00:33:08.539 stage, then I got to start all over again. That's 00:33:08.539 --> 00:33:10.039 why I thought it was tough because I was starting 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:11.980 with the first one. Or the last one, I mean. 00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:14.779 Because I have to get all this in one run on 00:33:14.779 --> 00:33:18.200 this one? Holy crap. You can attack in this game. 00:33:18.339 --> 00:33:23.210 Yeah. Which I... Don't know why. I guess just 00:33:23.210 --> 00:33:26.490 because Knuckles can punch and they're just like 00:33:26.490 --> 00:33:27.829 well I guess the other characters have to have 00:33:27.829 --> 00:33:31.170 something. Yeah I guess so. But yeah I wish they 00:33:31.170 --> 00:33:32.750 had done something more with that. That would 00:33:32.750 --> 00:33:34.210 have been cool if they had made like the bosses 00:33:34.210 --> 00:33:36.730 like you had to like punch them or something. 00:33:36.789 --> 00:33:38.589 Yeah. Yeah it feels like they just threw it in 00:33:38.589 --> 00:33:41.809 there and literally no use for it. There was 00:33:41.809 --> 00:33:43.589 a couple times like if you're on a slope and 00:33:43.589 --> 00:33:45.190 you don't have enough speed you can attack and 00:33:45.190 --> 00:33:47.990 kind of go up the slope. For you to use that 00:33:47.990 --> 00:33:51.440 on enemies you probably do It'd probably hurt 00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:52.619 you instead of just jumping on them. Yeah, I 00:33:52.619 --> 00:33:53.700 don't think there's any really... I can't... 00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:55.920 The only boss I could think of is maybe the Vegas 00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.319 one? The casino one? Yeah. Yeah. That's about 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:01.119 it. I don't think you could really punch any 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:02.839 of the other ones. Even then, you could just 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.619 still jump on them. Yeah, it's more easier just 00:34:05.619 --> 00:34:07.940 to jump on them. And then, Sonic had, like, an 00:34:07.940 --> 00:34:10.719 air dash thing that I never used. I don't... 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:12.619 I don't remember. If you, like, double tapped 00:34:12.619 --> 00:34:15.079 in the air, he'd, like... He would, like, dash 00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.500 to the left or right or whatever. You mean, like, 00:34:17.539 --> 00:34:19.920 the little, uh, like... Yeah, I know what you're 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:21.780 talking about. Yeah, I never used it. I don't 00:34:21.780 --> 00:34:23.579 know what it was for. I guess it was like a dodge 00:34:23.579 --> 00:34:24.800 thing. Maybe that's why I was getting hit all 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.219 the time. I think it makes his attack like a 00:34:27.219 --> 00:34:29.820 little bit bigger. No, there's like if you jump 00:34:29.820 --> 00:34:31.539 in the air and you double tap to the left or 00:34:31.539 --> 00:34:33.460 right, he does like a Naruto thing, puts his 00:34:33.460 --> 00:34:35.300 arms behind him and he like dashes in the air 00:34:35.300 --> 00:34:38.300 to the left or right. Oh, okay. I don't think 00:34:38.300 --> 00:34:39.880 I even done that. Yeah, I think it was like a 00:34:39.880 --> 00:34:42.000 dodge thing, but it's so hard to pull off and 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.510 it doesn't really do anything. okay yeah i don't 00:34:44.510 --> 00:34:47.329 think i even did that yeah it's weird okay yeah 00:34:47.329 --> 00:34:48.570 it just seems like they were throwing stuff in 00:34:48.570 --> 00:34:50.369 here but they didn't do anything with any of 00:34:50.369 --> 00:34:52.809 it so all right anybody else want to say anything 00:34:52.809 --> 00:34:56.769 about gameplay controls yeah i have a few things 00:34:56.769 --> 00:34:59.929 um i know eric mentioned this just briefly then 00:34:59.929 --> 00:35:03.510 but um if sonic's in the air and you hit the 00:35:03.510 --> 00:35:05.849 jump button again he does that like there's this 00:35:05.849 --> 00:35:08.940 little like animation yeah And what that does 00:35:08.940 --> 00:35:12.780 is that extends its hitbox, the thing they introduced 00:35:12.780 --> 00:35:16.460 in Sonic 3. So it's just a nice little wave. 00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:21.159 If there's an enemy that's close but not too 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.820 close, you can use that and you can bounce off 00:35:23.820 --> 00:35:26.980 them. I don't know if it does that in this game, 00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.420 but I know in Sonic 3, when you do that, it'll 00:35:29.420 --> 00:35:33.739 also protect you from enemies with spikes. So 00:35:33.739 --> 00:35:37.059 like some enemies... Spikes on their outer outer 00:35:37.059 --> 00:35:41.139 body and in Sonic 3 if you use that little Extended 00:35:41.139 --> 00:35:43.460 attack whatever it's called. You want to get 00:35:43.460 --> 00:35:46.099 hurt by those spikes. I don't think there were 00:35:46.099 --> 00:35:49.139 any enemies with spikes in this There's a couple 00:35:49.139 --> 00:35:52.079 there's like a blowfish enemy. Oh, okay. Oh, 00:35:52.099 --> 00:35:54.860 yeah, I think there was like one other one I 00:35:54.860 --> 00:35:56.340 don't I don't know. I don't know if it protects 00:35:56.340 --> 00:35:59.440 you or not. Probably not. This game is here to 00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:03.130 fuck you. So Yeah. I don't know if that's what 00:36:03.130 --> 00:36:05.269 it's here for, but it definitely does do it. 00:36:05.510 --> 00:36:10.349 It definitely did do it. It did it pretty well, 00:36:10.449 --> 00:36:13.030 so. I mean, I broke a controller with this game, 00:36:13.090 --> 00:36:16.610 so. Yeah, true. It was an accident, to be fair. 00:36:16.650 --> 00:36:20.210 I'm sure that controller had seen. Dude, that 00:36:20.210 --> 00:36:23.289 controller was on its last fucking leg, so. And 00:36:23.289 --> 00:36:27.269 this is the game that put it over. Yeah. Yeah. 00:36:28.929 --> 00:36:32.050 It was just special stages, dude. It was. Well, 00:36:32.150 --> 00:36:34.989 okay, so it was... To be fair, I don't think 00:36:34.989 --> 00:36:37.050 it was really this game. It was the fucking emulator. 00:36:37.530 --> 00:36:39.230 I don't know what it was with this game, but 00:36:39.230 --> 00:36:41.690 my emulator hated this game. I don't know why 00:36:41.690 --> 00:36:43.610 you had so many problems. I don't know. I played 00:36:43.610 --> 00:36:45.929 this game no problem. It crashed like three or 00:36:45.929 --> 00:36:48.329 four times on me. But I had weird things with 00:36:48.329 --> 00:36:50.909 the achievements. Like when I opened up the Chao 00:36:50.909 --> 00:36:54.170 Garden, the... chaos emerald achievement started 00:36:54.170 --> 00:36:55.989 at one and just counted up to seven and went 00:36:55.989 --> 00:36:58.329 back to one up to seven down to one i don't know 00:36:58.329 --> 00:37:01.329 what it was dude it was all over the place all 00:37:01.329 --> 00:37:04.150 right i had things with a single issue i had 00:37:04.150 --> 00:37:06.050 things with the time attacks when i kept restarting 00:37:06.050 --> 00:37:07.690 the time attacks sometimes it just didn't show 00:37:07.690 --> 00:37:10.909 up on the bottom right so yeah it was weird dude 00:37:10.909 --> 00:37:14.550 yeah mine had a problem with the emeralds yeah 00:37:14.550 --> 00:37:18.230 i had to go back and replay the levels do the 00:37:18.230 --> 00:37:20.530 special stages again. It was so weird, dude. 00:37:20.630 --> 00:37:23.230 And I beat the levels too. Yeah. But they just, 00:37:23.369 --> 00:37:25.309 for whatever reason, when I closed it out, it 00:37:25.309 --> 00:37:27.829 just didn't save it. Yeah. The emulator shit 00:37:27.829 --> 00:37:30.829 the bed. I don't know. Yeah. I'll get back to 00:37:30.829 --> 00:37:33.489 that in achievements, but. So there's power -ups 00:37:33.489 --> 00:37:35.730 in this game. And, you know, that's pretty standard 00:37:35.730 --> 00:37:38.809 for 2D Sonic games. So there is the lightning 00:37:38.809 --> 00:37:42.210 shield. And then there's just the standard shield. 00:37:42.369 --> 00:37:44.980 Protective shield. But. Yeah, the lightning shield 00:37:44.980 --> 00:37:47.920 attracts rings towards you, which is the same 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.219 thing it does in Sonic 3. Which, in this game, 00:37:51.260 --> 00:37:53.400 is kind of useless because you can't become Super 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:56.119 Sonic anyway. Right. I mean, I guess it's still 00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:59.179 bringing you rings, but at a certain point, it's 00:37:59.179 --> 00:38:02.559 kind of useless. I felt it was useless anyway 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:05.320 because I felt like you had to be really close 00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:08.619 to the rings to pick them up anyway. And at least 00:38:08.619 --> 00:38:10.539 in Sonic 3, too, it gives you an extra jump. 00:38:10.989 --> 00:38:12.829 That's what I was going to mention, is that it 00:38:12.829 --> 00:38:14.710 gives you an extra jump. It doesn't do that in 00:38:14.710 --> 00:38:18.710 this one, right? No. But that's the other thing 00:38:18.710 --> 00:38:23.570 about playing Sonic in Sonic 3 that made him 00:38:23.570 --> 00:38:25.610 unique, was that Tails and Knuckles couldn't 00:38:25.610 --> 00:38:30.050 use those abilities, but Sonic could. It was 00:38:30.050 --> 00:38:31.590 nice to see the lightning shield, but the fact 00:38:31.590 --> 00:38:35.570 they took that out was very lame to me. I agree. 00:38:36.110 --> 00:38:39.389 And I feel like the invincibility one or whatever 00:38:39.389 --> 00:38:42.039 one... It didn't really make you that much faster. 00:38:42.260 --> 00:38:44.440 Yeah, I don't think in this game it does. They 00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.219 have the speed shoes instead. The shoes, yeah. 00:38:47.739 --> 00:38:50.599 Oh, yeah, yeah. Which I feel like didn't make 00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:52.579 you that much faster. Is that what you're talking 00:38:52.579 --> 00:38:55.679 about? Yeah, I think so. The speed shoes, really, 00:38:55.780 --> 00:38:58.380 I don't know. I mean, they're quick enough. I 00:38:58.380 --> 00:39:01.159 feel like in this game, that's pointless, though. 00:39:02.059 --> 00:39:04.159 Yeah, because you're just going to get hit in 00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:08.260 three seconds anyway. Yeah. Because there's not 00:39:08.260 --> 00:39:10.659 a lot of area in this game where you can just 00:39:10.659 --> 00:39:14.539 go fast. Yeah. This game's more platforming than 00:39:14.539 --> 00:39:18.440 it is speeding. I mean, I feel like it's 50 -50. 00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:21.440 It does have some good speeding parts. The problem 00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.059 is that those parts just end up getting hit. 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:27.960 There's no... You don't go through the speeding 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:29.480 parts and then be like, that was cool. You go 00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:30.599 through the speeding parts, hit something, go, 00:39:30.659 --> 00:39:33.699 mother... And you get so mad. It's just not fun. 00:39:33.699 --> 00:39:35.349 I don't know. I think... Like you said, this 00:39:35.349 --> 00:39:37.989 is by the same company that made Rush. Yeah, 00:39:38.050 --> 00:39:40.210 yeah. And I think this is just a precursor to 00:39:40.210 --> 00:39:42.869 Rush because Rush was a good game. The sense 00:39:42.869 --> 00:39:45.929 of speed was there. You could do tricks. That 00:39:45.929 --> 00:39:47.670 game was awesome. I haven't played in a long 00:39:47.670 --> 00:39:49.849 time, but I do remember enjoying it a lot. Yeah, 00:39:49.889 --> 00:39:52.650 Rush was cool. Yeah, that game was dope. I think 00:39:52.650 --> 00:39:54.449 Rush was in my head when I was playing this game 00:39:54.449 --> 00:39:56.429 because it's kind of like the same art style 00:39:56.429 --> 00:39:59.590 and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just not 00:39:59.590 --> 00:40:02.190 the same. Yeah, so with the graphics and stuff, 00:40:02.329 --> 00:40:04.449 there was a lot of cool parts because there was... 00:40:04.849 --> 00:40:07.030 The level design, like, the actual, like, design 00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:09.389 of the level was really cool. There was a lot 00:40:09.389 --> 00:40:11.869 of, like, nice backgrounds. Like, there was parts, 00:40:11.989 --> 00:40:13.389 too, where, like, where you're running and you 00:40:13.389 --> 00:40:15.190 go, like, through that waterfall area. Like, 00:40:15.250 --> 00:40:17.010 you fall through that and then you keep running. 00:40:17.110 --> 00:40:19.730 That was cool. Yeah, that was cool. There's a 00:40:19.730 --> 00:40:20.949 part where, like, running through the forest 00:40:20.949 --> 00:40:22.510 and, like, the trees and the leaves and stuff. 00:40:22.550 --> 00:40:24.730 Like, all that stuff was really cool. Like, the 00:40:24.730 --> 00:40:26.550 final level. When you go on the bridge. Yeah. 00:40:26.750 --> 00:40:31.369 The background was dope. Yeah, it was cool. There's 00:40:31.369 --> 00:40:33.090 the part with the spaceship where you jump in 00:40:33.090 --> 00:40:34.610 front of the rockets and stuff. There's just 00:40:34.610 --> 00:40:36.730 a lot of cool stuff like that in this game. But 00:40:36.730 --> 00:40:38.710 like I said, then you just kind of end up running 00:40:38.710 --> 00:40:39.969 into a spike and you're like, well, that was 00:40:39.969 --> 00:40:44.469 cool, but now I'm pissed off again. Yeah, pretty 00:40:44.469 --> 00:40:47.389 much. That spaceship level was tough. Yeah, that 00:40:47.389 --> 00:40:52.030 level's a bitch. Once you figure out how to get 00:40:52.030 --> 00:40:54.550 through it, man. Yeah. Because it's so long, 00:40:54.570 --> 00:40:56.110 and the time actually counts down on that one. 00:40:56.750 --> 00:41:00.070 Yeah, so, and then also, a cool thing is, I think 00:41:00.070 --> 00:41:02.690 this is the first 2D game to use the new Sonic 00:41:02.690 --> 00:41:04.750 designs, when he was, like, redesigned into the 00:41:04.750 --> 00:41:09.190 newer, like, lengthier, a lanky Sonic. Got that 00:41:09.190 --> 00:41:12.949 edge. Yeah, yeah. So I think this is the first 00:41:12.949 --> 00:41:15.289 time any of those sprites were used, like, the 00:41:15.289 --> 00:41:17.530 animations on the sprites for the characters 00:41:17.530 --> 00:41:18.969 were pretty cool. There was, like, an impatience 00:41:18.969 --> 00:41:20.929 one, you know, there was, like, one special one 00:41:20.929 --> 00:41:23.239 for, like, looking up and stuff. You know, he's, 00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:25.219 like, grabbing onto things, jumping. I don't 00:41:25.219 --> 00:41:26.500 know, there's just a lot of cool, like, sprite 00:41:26.500 --> 00:41:28.559 work and everything. Like, the graphics were 00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:30.739 pretty good in this game. Yeah, no, I agree. 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.260 This definitely looks good. It's a definitely 00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:35.219 good -looking game. The levels were all very 00:41:35.219 --> 00:41:38.380 vibrant and colorful and everything, so... Very 00:41:38.380 --> 00:41:41.480 Sonic -esque. Well, speaking of that, like, a 00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:44.119 lot of the levels in this game, too, looked exactly 00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:47.050 like some of the Genesis. levels because like 00:41:47.050 --> 00:41:49.150 the first one is green hill but i mean that's 00:41:49.150 --> 00:41:51.230 pretty standard for sonic games like the first 00:41:51.230 --> 00:41:54.289 level is just this uh right yeah like green grass 00:41:54.289 --> 00:41:57.010 and stuff like that but then the second level 00:41:57.010 --> 00:42:00.449 it looked like it looked a lot like metropolis 00:42:00.449 --> 00:42:05.050 zone from sonic 2 the uh casino levels like looked 00:42:05.050 --> 00:42:07.710 like casino night from sonic 2 there was an ice 00:42:07.710 --> 00:42:10.190 cap level there was an angel island level which 00:42:10.190 --> 00:42:13.230 i think was more like a marble garden zone from 00:42:13.230 --> 00:42:16.090 sonic 3 So there was a lot of, like, reused stuff. 00:42:16.130 --> 00:42:18.309 Even some of the enemies, like, they're, like, 00:42:18.349 --> 00:42:21.730 sprite, like, pixel for pixel, like, sprite recreations 00:42:21.730 --> 00:42:24.590 from the Genesis games, too. Yeah, I'm sure they're 00:42:24.590 --> 00:42:26.150 doing that as, like, an homage to the older stuff. 00:42:26.730 --> 00:42:28.849 Yeah, you gotta have Casino Night, bro. Yeah. 00:42:29.389 --> 00:42:31.409 Man, listen, man, I like Casino Night and Carnival 00:42:31.409 --> 00:42:33.389 Night. It's got the best Sonic soundtrack ever. 00:42:33.590 --> 00:42:39.050 Yeah, true. I always liked, um... And, uh, yeah. 00:42:39.230 --> 00:42:42.280 What was that, uh, second, what was the... Chemical 00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.199 Zone. I was like Chemical Plant Zone. Let's jump 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.579 over to the sound. Do we have to? The sound is 00:42:49.579 --> 00:42:53.719 not as good as graphics, that's for sure. I haven't 00:42:53.719 --> 00:42:56.199 played a Game Boy Advance in a long time, but 00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:57.860 I thought there was something wrong with my sound 00:42:57.860 --> 00:43:03.079 on this game. As soon as I started up, I was 00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:05.380 playing on my handheld emulator. I was like, 00:43:05.420 --> 00:43:09.949 what is wrong with my emulator? It sounds awful. 00:43:11.289 --> 00:43:12.889 Is that what a Game Boy Advance sounds like? 00:43:13.050 --> 00:43:15.949 I think so. No, I don't think so. I don't know. 00:43:15.949 --> 00:43:18.710 I think they do. I don't remember. Maybe just 00:43:18.710 --> 00:43:20.550 because it was made for the speakers on the Game 00:43:20.550 --> 00:43:22.190 Boy Advance, it doesn't sound that bad, but I 00:43:22.190 --> 00:43:24.710 don't know, man. I don't know. It sounded like 00:43:24.710 --> 00:43:28.010 a Flash game to me. It was so bad. Yeah, it's 00:43:28.010 --> 00:43:30.250 not that great. I don't remember a Game Boy Advance 00:43:30.250 --> 00:43:32.690 game sounding like that. I really don't. Could 00:43:32.690 --> 00:43:36.739 be rose -tinted glasses. Rose -tinted earbuds 00:43:36.739 --> 00:43:40.199 you got going on. Yeah, my earbuds. I don't know. 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:42.800 I don't think they sound that bad. I don't remember. 00:43:43.219 --> 00:43:45.519 Because if you go and watch a video on Pokemon 00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.739 on Game Boy Advance, dude, I guarantee you it 00:43:49.739 --> 00:43:54.079 sounds better. I guarantee it. I have the Crash 00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.760 Bandicoot N -Traced soundtrack on my computer, 00:43:57.880 --> 00:43:59.480 and that sounds just fine. That was a game for 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.980 the Game Boy Advance, and I think it sounds... 00:44:02.219 --> 00:44:04.260 Pretty good. Yeah, but you're not playing it 00:44:04.260 --> 00:44:07.159 out of a Game Boy Advance speaker. Yeah, true. 00:44:07.739 --> 00:44:10.480 You're listening to composed music. I wonder 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.940 if you looked up sound clips for this game if 00:44:13.940 --> 00:44:16.340 it sounded like that, but I don't know. I mean, 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:18.320 realistically, it's just the beginning. Once 00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:20.260 you get past that, all the other sounds are fine. 00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:22.880 Well, I think it's just you get used to it. I 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.699 guess so. Yeah, no, the beginning of this game 00:44:25.699 --> 00:44:28.420 is... It does sound awful, yeah. It's god awful. 00:44:28.500 --> 00:44:30.480 It does sound pretty bad. And even, like, the 00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.440 soundtrack, it's, like, even with the sound sounding 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:35.019 the way it is, the music in this game is, it's 00:44:35.019 --> 00:44:37.460 alright. I don't know. It's not the best Sonic 00:44:37.460 --> 00:44:42.059 soundtrack. No. I mean, it's Sonic music, though. 00:44:42.099 --> 00:44:44.920 It fits what it should do. Yeah. For me to say, 00:44:44.940 --> 00:44:47.039 like, compared to, like, 2 and 3, man, like... 00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:50.360 Oh, yeah. You're not jamming out to this one. 00:44:50.420 --> 00:44:54.679 No. It's just background noise, really. I mean... 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:58.639 Yeah. I don't know. I'm trying to remember. Some 00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:00.579 of the past games we played, I can hear some 00:45:00.579 --> 00:45:03.460 of the songs still. I don't really remember any 00:45:03.460 --> 00:45:07.380 music in this game. Senti? Yeah, there's a couple 00:45:07.380 --> 00:45:10.619 from that game. I know you guys, but I like some 00:45:10.619 --> 00:45:12.619 of the stuff where Rule of Rose was good. I can 00:45:12.619 --> 00:45:14.260 still hear some of that stuff, but in this one, 00:45:14.300 --> 00:45:16.820 I can't really remember any of the songs in this 00:45:16.820 --> 00:45:20.719 game. All I hear is Sonic's rings falling on 00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:26.699 the ground. Constantly. Which I got to say, man, 00:45:26.780 --> 00:45:29.119 they made that one soundbite and they stuck with 00:45:29.119 --> 00:45:31.780 it like in every fucking. Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah. 00:45:31.860 --> 00:45:33.940 Yeah. And then they sold it. Never changed. They 00:45:33.940 --> 00:45:35.920 sold it to those cash registers or whatever. 00:45:37.860 --> 00:45:41.320 Zoomers. Yeah, I remember that. The first time 00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:43.199 I was in some gas station, I heard that noise. 00:45:43.219 --> 00:45:46.659 I was like, what the hell? Like the sonic, like 00:45:46.659 --> 00:45:49.739 almost every noise is jumping. Yeah. Yeah, it's 00:45:49.739 --> 00:45:51.400 all the classic. The springs, all that stuff, 00:45:51.539 --> 00:45:54.079 yeah. The air bubble. I will say it was cool 00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:57.579 on the last level when he had the original bosses. 00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:00.519 Robotnik had his two original from the first 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:02.039 and second game, and they had the original music 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.159 in there. That was cool. Yeah, that was awesome. 00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:07.179 Yeah. The sound quality -wise is not great, but 00:46:07.179 --> 00:46:10.039 the sounds themselves is fine. The music's fine. 00:46:10.420 --> 00:46:12.760 I just think the opening was bad for some reason. 00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:18.510 I'm just so surprised by how that sounded. I 00:46:18.510 --> 00:46:21.650 swear to God, I thought that my handheld was 00:46:21.650 --> 00:46:23.449 broken. I did too. I was like, what is going 00:46:23.449 --> 00:46:25.590 on? I was messing with the sound output and stuff. 00:46:25.690 --> 00:46:29.269 I was like, what is going on? We were trying 00:46:29.269 --> 00:46:32.130 to set up the multiplayer thing. I think I said 00:46:32.130 --> 00:46:33.369 something about it. I was like, dude, this sounds 00:46:33.369 --> 00:46:38.030 fucking awful. I was playing it before that. 00:46:38.210 --> 00:46:41.130 I was playing it before that. You must have missed 00:46:41.130 --> 00:46:44.610 the intro or something. Dude, I guess so. I was 00:46:44.610 --> 00:46:47.469 like, this sounds awful. Usually, I'll fast forward 00:46:47.469 --> 00:46:49.750 through it. because I'm not going to sit through 00:46:49.750 --> 00:46:52.070 splash screen and whatever. The first time I 00:46:52.070 --> 00:46:54.710 load up a game, I will, but I guess I just didn't 00:46:54.710 --> 00:46:57.449 hear it for a couple days, and I was like, oh, 00:46:57.670 --> 00:47:02.789 dude. Nails on a chalkboard. I got to say, this 00:47:02.789 --> 00:47:07.929 game is kind of a pain to keep getting into because 00:47:07.929 --> 00:47:11.289 it takes forever to get to the start menu, and 00:47:11.289 --> 00:47:13.210 then if you die, you got to go all the way back 00:47:13.210 --> 00:47:17.769 to the start menu. It just takes forever. As 00:47:17.769 --> 00:47:20.389 we always say, thank God for Fast Forward. Yeah, 00:47:20.449 --> 00:47:23.289 dude, I used Fast Forward a lot. I did too. I 00:47:23.289 --> 00:47:26.230 think the only other thing I want to mention 00:47:26.230 --> 00:47:29.170 is I don't know why they did this, but they made 00:47:29.170 --> 00:47:31.389 Sonic and Tails together. You can play together 00:47:31.389 --> 00:47:34.250 as a secret code. I'm not sure why they didn't 00:47:34.250 --> 00:47:36.150 just add that in the menu. Yeah, I don't know 00:47:36.150 --> 00:47:38.530 why they made it a secret. Or beat the game or 00:47:38.530 --> 00:47:40.269 something. Yeah, and unlock it. That would have 00:47:40.269 --> 00:47:43.110 been a cool unlockable. Yeah, for getting the 00:47:43.110 --> 00:47:45.239 good ending. Because there was no... I don't 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:46.480 know where you would have got that secret code 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:47.880 from. I don't think it was in the manual or anything. 00:47:48.579 --> 00:47:51.260 Yeah, I don't. And it's just like a random code, 00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.159 too. Yeah, I don't think it's a Nintendo or a 00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:57.139 Sega code. No, it's not. It's just like up, down, 00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.820 up, right, down, right, something like that. 00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:01.900 But yeah, I don't know. I thought that was a 00:48:01.900 --> 00:48:03.420 weird choice. It would have been cooler as like 00:48:03.420 --> 00:48:06.559 a collectible. For sure. Unlockable, yeah. And 00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:07.940 I wonder if you could have linked those up and 00:48:07.940 --> 00:48:10.179 played those as two -player like that. I don't 00:48:10.179 --> 00:48:13.420 think so. No, probably not. Which, speaking of, 00:48:14.399 --> 00:48:16.440 This game, I think this is actually the first 00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:17.980 game we've played that has multiplayer in it. 00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:19.760 I don't think any of the other games had multiplayer. 00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:22.960 No, I don't think so. But in this game, you could 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:26.780 use the Game Boy Link cable, and you could actually 00:48:26.780 --> 00:48:29.739 play up to four people multiplayer in this game, 00:48:29.780 --> 00:48:32.480 which is pretty cool. I tried to get it to work, 00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:33.780 but we couldn't get it to work, but we watched 00:48:33.780 --> 00:48:35.699 some videos on it. I think there's just like 00:48:35.699 --> 00:48:38.139 a race mode where you just see him get to the 00:48:38.139 --> 00:48:40.300 level the fastest. And then there's, like, a 00:48:40.300 --> 00:48:42.340 collecting mode where there's, like, a bunch 00:48:42.340 --> 00:48:44.179 of random chows throughout the level, and you're 00:48:44.179 --> 00:48:46.340 trying to collect those and see who can get the 00:48:46.340 --> 00:48:48.500 most, which, you know, we didn't get to try it, 00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:50.260 but it looked cool. I think it's a cool thing 00:48:50.260 --> 00:48:52.619 that they added in there. Yeah, I mean, it's 00:48:52.619 --> 00:48:55.079 pretty sweet. I know I really wanted to get it 00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:56.760 going, but... Yeah, we'll have to try and figure 00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:58.420 that out for the next game, but... It's just 00:48:58.420 --> 00:49:01.239 so hard to emulate, man. Yeah, I know. Well, 00:49:01.260 --> 00:49:02.960 especially online multiplayer shit like that. 00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:05.079 Yeah, I know. Like, how do you... Did you have 00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:06.820 to have four separate games for this or could 00:49:06.820 --> 00:49:10.079 you just do this from one game? I think there's 00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:12.639 other modes. I think there's like a ring collecting 00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:14.760 one too or something, but some of the modes required 00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.260 you to have four packs and some of them didn't. 00:49:17.900 --> 00:49:19.780 Okay. So there was like a couple that you could 00:49:19.780 --> 00:49:21.380 play with one game pack and there was a couple 00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:23.320 you could play with the four game packs. Yeah. 00:49:23.900 --> 00:49:26.840 That's pretty cool for one game to be able to 00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:28.400 play with four people. Yeah, and I don't know 00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.119 if it was four people only or if you could do 00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:33.199 like two or three as well. Oh, yeah. I don't 00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.659 know. Yeah, it was pretty cool that they added 00:49:35.659 --> 00:49:37.199 in there. And then each person would pick one 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.360 character and then you could play through the 00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:42.880 levels. I think you could select any level. Yeah, 00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:47.420 that's cool. Cool idea. All right. Anybody got 00:49:47.420 --> 00:49:49.800 anything else they want to say about Sonic the 00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:53.260 Hedgehog? Sonic Advance. Forever hold your peace. 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:56.719 I know we talked a lot of negativity about this 00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:58.320 game, but it's actually a pretty decent game. 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.900 Yeah, yeah. We'll get to that in the final verdict. 00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:05.780 But yeah, I agree. All right, so let's talk achievements. 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.940 So did you guys finish? Did you guys master this 00:50:09.940 --> 00:50:15.599 game? I sure did. No, I haven't yet. I'm going 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:18.099 to, though. Yeah, I finished it, too. It's not 00:50:18.099 --> 00:50:21.920 that hard. No. I want to get the emeralds out 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:23.420 of the way and then just do everything else. 00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:25.500 That's basically what I did, yeah. Since I've 00:50:25.500 --> 00:50:28.099 had a fucking problem with it, it's just taking 00:50:28.099 --> 00:50:30.159 me longer. Yeah, if your game doesn't crash three 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.239 fucking times, it's not that bad. Yeah. Yeah, 00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:33.980 it's not too bad. And you break your controller. 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.420 Dude, and the annoying thing is it kept crashing 00:50:38.420 --> 00:50:41.559 on the last fucking level, dude. So I had to 00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:42.900 play through the game four times. Where else 00:50:42.900 --> 00:50:44.280 would it crash? Yeah, I know. It's gonna crash 00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:46.820 on the first level. I know, dude. So I had to 00:50:46.820 --> 00:50:48.599 play through it four times to get that don't 00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:51.079 die achievement, which is so annoying. And then, 00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:53.860 like, the third time I made, like, an aggressive 00:50:53.860 --> 00:50:56.119 gesture with my hands and I accidentally smacked 00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:59.440 right where the stupid, uh... wire connects to 00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.260 the controller right on the desk and i cracked 00:51:01.260 --> 00:51:05.059 it right there and i'm like son of a gun so it 00:51:05.059 --> 00:51:08.059 won't connect anymore no more aggressive gestures 00:51:08.059 --> 00:51:10.199 for you yeah i really need to not do that i i 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:12.159 wasn't actually trying to break anything i wasn't 00:51:12.159 --> 00:51:13.460 trying to throw it i wasn't trying to do anything 00:51:13.460 --> 00:51:15.480 i just like what the hell and i smacked it right 00:51:15.480 --> 00:51:19.039 there but i think that would make me even madder 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.340 yeah yeah because you weren't even trying yeah 00:51:22.340 --> 00:51:25.820 yeah i know right yeah but that no death achievement 00:51:25.820 --> 00:51:28.409 is a little tough yeah I mean, that controller 00:51:28.409 --> 00:51:34.230 was falling apart anyway. Yeah, I mean, the achievements 00:51:34.230 --> 00:51:38.190 aren't awful. No, they're not that hard. You 00:51:38.190 --> 00:51:39.949 know, the emeralds are a pain in the butt just 00:51:39.949 --> 00:51:41.469 because the special stages are a pain in the 00:51:41.469 --> 00:51:44.329 butt. Yeah, but if you do them enough, you learn 00:51:44.329 --> 00:51:47.989 them. Yeah. I mean, they take a little bit of 00:51:47.989 --> 00:51:49.210 time, but they're not that bad. The majority 00:51:49.210 --> 00:51:52.170 of them, just beat the game as Sonic Gaming, 00:51:52.309 --> 00:51:55.480 Tails and Knuckles. Get all the emeralds. There's 00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:57.199 a couple no -hit boss achievements which are 00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.500 a pain in the ass. Special requirement boss things. 00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:02.760 Yeah, like get 100 -something rings, which is 00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:04.639 kind of just a no -hit anyway, just with an extra 00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:07.280 step. The hardest ones definitely beat the game 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:09.019 without dying. That one's a pain in the butt. 00:52:09.340 --> 00:52:11.920 But, I mean, it's not awful. There's a couple 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:14.619 speedruns in here. Yeah, speedruns. Realistically, 00:52:14.820 --> 00:52:16.559 they're not too bad. No, they're not too bad. 00:52:16.579 --> 00:52:18.780 They're not the worst. Yeah, we've had worse. 00:52:19.340 --> 00:52:21.480 No, I think this is a pretty good set. Honestly, 00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:23.400 I think this is one of the better sets we've 00:52:23.400 --> 00:52:28.039 had. I agree. This set is what most retro achievements 00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:31.039 should probably be. I agree. Yeah, yeah. It's 00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:35.219 not easy, but it's not impossible. And it's got 00:52:35.219 --> 00:52:39.920 a good variety of fun achievements. There's some 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:44.099 leniency on the speed runs. Definitely a good 00:52:44.099 --> 00:52:46.860 set. I ran through this game. Yeah, you did, 00:52:46.980 --> 00:52:48.780 yeah. I was like, oh, I'm doing pretty good. 00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:50.219 Then I looked, you had one left. I was like, 00:52:50.260 --> 00:52:53.639 dude, what the fuck? I was like, did you work 00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:57.059 this week? Dude, I don't know. I was just running 00:52:57.059 --> 00:52:59.699 through this game. It's such a short game, dude. 00:52:59.820 --> 00:53:02.219 Yeah. Yeah, it is. I mean, you can get like 40 00:53:02.219 --> 00:53:04.260 achievements in like two days. I know. I was 00:53:04.260 --> 00:53:06.059 like, I thought I was doing good, but apparently 00:53:06.059 --> 00:53:09.940 not. I gotta sit down one day and like actually 00:53:09.940 --> 00:53:11.739 play it. I haven't really been playing it too 00:53:11.739 --> 00:53:14.400 much. Yeah. I just had some time and I just ran 00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:18.440 through them. Okay, those are the achievements. 00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:20.800 So let's go ahead and get over to our final verdict. 00:53:41.619 --> 00:53:43.420 Alright, so as always, just a quick explanation. 00:53:43.659 --> 00:53:45.400 We don't do scores or numbers or anything like 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.909 that. It's just a... Did you enjoy it and would 00:53:47.909 --> 00:53:50.389 you recommend it? So who wants to go first? You 00:53:50.389 --> 00:53:51.650 know what, Jacob, why don't you go first this 00:53:51.650 --> 00:53:55.510 time? Well, thank you. Yeah, I enjoyed this game. 00:53:55.710 --> 00:53:59.769 It was, you know, I'm a big Sonic fan and it 00:53:59.769 --> 00:54:02.349 definitely reminded me a lot of the Genesis 2D 00:54:02.349 --> 00:54:05.010 games and going through all the levels was fun. 00:54:05.809 --> 00:54:08.809 As the game went on, it got pretty hard and pretty 00:54:08.809 --> 00:54:11.690 ridiculous with, you know, just everything, enemies 00:54:11.690 --> 00:54:14.650 and the platforming, but I still enjoyed it. 00:54:14.989 --> 00:54:18.250 Would you recommend it? You know what? I don't 00:54:18.250 --> 00:54:20.530 think I would recommend this game only because 00:54:20.530 --> 00:54:23.670 there's so many other 2D Sonic games that you 00:54:23.670 --> 00:54:26.750 can play and get a much better experience. Again, 00:54:27.329 --> 00:54:30.429 I'm a big Sonic fan and I didn't get much out 00:54:30.429 --> 00:54:33.110 of this game. I feel like I could have gone the 00:54:33.110 --> 00:54:34.849 rest of my life without playing it and not losing 00:54:34.849 --> 00:54:37.329 sleep over it. If you want a similar experience 00:54:37.329 --> 00:54:41.030 to Sonic Advance, you could play the Sonic 1 00:54:41.030 --> 00:54:46.530 and 2 mobile ports. Both of those run at 60 frames. 00:54:46.670 --> 00:54:48.869 They have widescreen support. You can play as 00:54:48.869 --> 00:54:50.969 Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles. You can play as Sonic 00:54:50.969 --> 00:54:56.269 and Tails. They have the shield from Sonic 3 00:54:56.269 --> 00:54:58.010 if you want to include them in your playthrough. 00:54:59.309 --> 00:55:02.369 The Sonic 1 port also has... You can play as 00:55:02.369 --> 00:55:04.929 Super Sonic. It has the seven emeralds. Because 00:55:04.929 --> 00:55:06.849 in the original Sonic, there was only six emeralds. 00:55:07.130 --> 00:55:11.190 And you couldn't become Super Sonic. There's 00:55:11.190 --> 00:55:14.900 a remaster. of sonic 3 and knuckles it's a fan 00:55:14.900 --> 00:55:17.320 -made thing but i played a little bit of it and 00:55:17.320 --> 00:55:19.460 it's it's really good and then there's sonic 00:55:19.460 --> 00:55:22.199 mania and that's you know that game's just awesome 00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.719 that game really perfected the sonic for like 00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:28.159 the 2d sonic formula in my opinion and as we 00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:30.119 mentioned before there's also sonic rush and 00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:32.559 sonic rush adventure those are also really good 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:37.079 games too so i would much prefer you play those 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:40.380 games over sonic advanced one i never played 00:55:40.380 --> 00:55:42.889 sonic advanced two and three So I can't really 00:55:42.889 --> 00:55:45.150 speak on them, but... I've heard they got better. 00:55:45.989 --> 00:55:48.650 Really? I thought everybody hated 2. I don't 00:55:48.650 --> 00:55:52.570 think so. I heard they got better. I thought 00:55:52.570 --> 00:55:55.670 I heard 2 was terrible. We'll find out someday, 00:55:55.769 --> 00:55:59.670 I guess. I guess so. Alright, so no recommendations, 00:55:59.949 --> 00:56:04.210 Jacob? No. Play any of the other 2D Sonic games 00:56:04.210 --> 00:56:09.300 I listed. Eric, did you enjoy it? Yeah, I think 00:56:09.300 --> 00:56:11.980 I did. This is a good game. I know we were talking 00:56:11.980 --> 00:56:14.820 smack a little bit earlier, but I think that's 00:56:14.820 --> 00:56:17.500 just, you got to talk smack about Sonic, man. 00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:23.280 Yeah, it's a good game. I think, you know, it's 00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:25.119 not a perfect game. It definitely has its flaws. 00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:32.719 It does need work. But I think I enjoyed it because, 00:56:32.980 --> 00:56:36.059 and I'm not trying to be an asshole, but just 00:56:36.059 --> 00:56:39.630 coming off a rural rose. It was like a nice, 00:56:39.769 --> 00:56:43.110 just kind of like more of a mindless game. You 00:56:43.110 --> 00:56:44.550 know, just kind of like run through the levels 00:56:44.550 --> 00:56:46.369 and play Sonic. Yeah, it's simple. There's nothing 00:56:46.369 --> 00:56:49.929 to think about. There's no little girl taking 00:56:49.929 --> 00:56:53.849 some man and making her a dog. Some fucking plot 00:56:53.849 --> 00:56:56.389 that makes no goddamn sense. Absolutely insane 00:56:56.389 --> 00:57:01.849 story going on. Yeah, I had fun with it. I got 00:57:01.849 --> 00:57:04.789 through it pretty quick. So I was definitely 00:57:04.789 --> 00:57:08.920 enjoying it. Would you recommend it? Yeah, I 00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:11.199 would. It's fast, man. I mean, you can beat this 00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:16.320 game in an hour. So you got time. I mean, if 00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:18.900 you can play Sonic the Hedgehog. I know some 00:57:18.900 --> 00:57:20.960 people who can't beat Sonic the Hedgehog. Yeah. 00:57:22.139 --> 00:57:25.039 And they review video games. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:57:25.420 --> 00:57:27.880 Not throwing any shade out there anywhere. Yeah, 00:57:27.900 --> 00:57:32.500 okay. No, I recommend it. You got time. Throw 00:57:32.500 --> 00:57:35.179 it out there. Play it. It's easy. It's simple. 00:57:35.690 --> 00:57:37.710 The last couple levels get a little tough, but 00:57:37.710 --> 00:57:40.590 it's just, like I said, it's a little mindless 00:57:40.590 --> 00:57:47.889 fun. Ryan, do you enjoy it? Yeah, I enjoyed this 00:57:47.889 --> 00:57:52.449 game. I mean, if you've played Sonic and you 00:57:52.449 --> 00:57:56.230 know how those games are, I think this is a pretty 00:57:56.230 --> 00:58:01.110 lackluster Sonic. Yeah, I can see that. But I 00:58:01.110 --> 00:58:03.550 still don't think it's bad. I did enjoy this 00:58:03.550 --> 00:58:08.809 game. I think it's... Just Sonic. Just not the 00:58:08.809 --> 00:58:11.889 best way that they've done him. But it's still 00:58:11.889 --> 00:58:14.690 easy enough to where you're just running around 00:58:14.690 --> 00:58:19.610 and just a little bit of platforming. But simple, 00:58:19.869 --> 00:58:23.889 easy. And again, it's fucking short. So like 00:58:23.889 --> 00:58:25.849 Eric said, you can be at like an hour if you 00:58:25.849 --> 00:58:28.650 really tried. So if you just want something quick 00:58:28.650 --> 00:58:31.210 and play a Sonic game you've never played before, 00:58:31.389 --> 00:58:34.570 just want to waste time, pretty good game. Do 00:58:34.570 --> 00:58:37.230 you recommend it? Yeah. I don't see why not. 00:58:37.869 --> 00:58:39.809 Like, again, if you like Sonic and you've played 00:58:39.809 --> 00:58:43.210 a couple of them and you want to try one or you 00:58:43.210 --> 00:58:46.210 just want a time waster, this one's good for 00:58:46.210 --> 00:58:48.929 that. But don't go into a thing that's, like, 00:58:48.949 --> 00:58:54.630 by Sonic standards, I guess, good, I guess. I 00:58:54.630 --> 00:58:58.670 don't know. It's just below par for Sonic. I 00:58:58.670 --> 00:59:00.590 don't know. Yeah, I understand what you're saying, 00:59:00.650 --> 00:59:03.760 yeah. It kind of sucks. Sonic, like, first three 00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:06.579 games peaked, and then... Well, dude, I mean, 00:59:06.579 --> 00:59:09.420 Sonic 3 & Knuckles is just the pinnacle of, like, 00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:13.480 fucking 90s gaming. It's... Yeah. Sonic's first 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:15.300 three games were, like, the best, and then after 00:59:15.300 --> 00:59:17.280 that, it was kind of, like, a downhill. I mean, 00:59:17.300 --> 00:59:19.519 there's some good games, you know, obviously. 00:59:19.619 --> 00:59:21.539 And it's tough, too, because this is on a handheld, 00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:24.699 so you can't hold that up to the same standard. 00:59:24.820 --> 00:59:27.960 Sure. By a company that's only done... By all 00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.139 means, never really made a Sonic game, you know 00:59:30.139 --> 00:59:33.369 what I mean? Yeah, for the fucking Neo Geo. And 00:59:33.369 --> 00:59:40.889 that's not something insane. So I get it. I get 00:59:40.889 --> 00:59:43.650 the limitations and all that stuff, but just 00:59:43.650 --> 00:59:46.489 some of the choices. The special stages are probably 00:59:46.489 --> 00:59:49.949 the worst thing about this game. But other than 00:59:49.949 --> 00:59:55.210 that, it's good fun. Not to jump in real quick, 00:59:55.349 --> 00:59:57.769 I just had a quick question. Is this the first 00:59:57.769 --> 01:00:02.559 one where you get speed from those flagpole things? 01:00:03.179 --> 01:00:06.219 I think so. I don't even know any other Sonic 01:00:06.219 --> 01:00:09.340 game that does that. Does Rush do that? I don't 01:00:09.340 --> 01:00:11.260 remember. It's been a long time since I've played 01:00:11.260 --> 01:00:15.440 Rush. Grab the flags and pull yourself forward. 01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:17.980 Yeah, I don't remember ever seeing that in a 01:00:17.980 --> 01:00:21.880 Sonic game. I think Rush does that. I think Generations 01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:25.980 does that as well. I don't know. It's been a 01:00:25.980 --> 01:00:29.280 long time since I've played Rush. I thought that 01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:32.500 was a cool addition. Yeah, I definitely enjoy 01:00:32.500 --> 01:00:35.079 this game. I mean, it's just a classic 2D Sonic 01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:37.980 game. There's a lot of good here. The levels 01:00:37.980 --> 01:00:41.599 are fun. There's a lot of cool interaction with 01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:43.159 the backgrounds. There's a good sense of speed 01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:45.260 in this game. There's a lot of points where you're 01:00:45.260 --> 01:00:49.280 jamming through the levels and it's fun. But, 01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:51.960 I mean, there's also points too where it's annoying, 01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.019 but I don't think it's enough to take away from 01:00:55.019 --> 01:00:58.019 the fun in this game. I think it's cool that 01:00:58.019 --> 01:01:00.539 there's four, I mean, in theory, four different 01:01:00.539 --> 01:01:03.219 ways to play this game with the four different 01:01:03.219 --> 01:01:05.900 characters. So that's cool. The fact that they 01:01:05.900 --> 01:01:07.559 even added the emeralds at all and have a super 01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:08.960 Sonic stage. I think, oh, that's cool. I think 01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:11.880 there's a lot of fun here. I'm 50 -50 in recommending 01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:14.840 it, though, just because I'm afraid that if this 01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:16.840 is somebody's first Sonic and they play this 01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:19.059 and they're like, oh, this is Sonic. Like, I'm 01:01:19.059 --> 01:01:20.579 afraid it would stop them from playing other 01:01:20.579 --> 01:01:23.929 Sonics. i don't know man you always say if it's 01:01:23.929 --> 01:01:27.250 50 50 then that's a no i know i'm i'm still i'm 01:01:27.250 --> 01:01:30.110 on the fence i'm trying to think i'm i think 01:01:30.110 --> 01:01:32.030 i would recommend it i think it's fun enough 01:01:32.030 --> 01:01:35.530 and that there's i feel like the the annoying 01:01:35.530 --> 01:01:38.429 parts of the game aren't enough to to push anybody 01:01:38.429 --> 01:01:40.530 away i think it'd just be like oh i need to figure 01:01:40.530 --> 01:01:42.230 this out you know i need to play more and and 01:01:42.230 --> 01:01:45.059 get good at this To be fair, I don't think this 01:01:45.059 --> 01:01:47.460 would be anybody's first Sonic. That too. I feel 01:01:47.460 --> 01:01:48.780 like if anybody's going to get into Sonic the 01:01:48.780 --> 01:01:51.119 Hedgehog, it's going to be the Genesis one. Yeah, 01:01:51.300 --> 01:01:53.559 for sure. So yeah, I think I would recommend 01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:56.360 it. So I'm going to start asking this. Has this 01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:58.619 changed anybody's least or most favorite games? 01:01:59.659 --> 01:02:04.139 No, not this one. No. Yeah, me either. It's a 01:02:04.139 --> 01:02:06.860 good game, but... Scoon number one. Scoon still 01:02:06.860 --> 01:02:09.059 can't be beat. Scoon Squad. Scoon Squad Pod. 01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:12.329 Scooners. All right, so that's our final rhetoric. 01:02:12.369 --> 01:02:15.530 That's our review of Sonic Advance. Let us know 01:02:15.530 --> 01:02:17.070 what you think, if you agree with us, if you 01:02:17.070 --> 01:02:20.929 disagree. All right, we're going to get on to 01:02:20.929 --> 01:02:23.469 our next game, which is going to be Chibi -Robo 01:02:23.469 --> 01:02:25.889 for the GameCube. You guys have any experience 01:02:25.889 --> 01:02:30.389 with Chibi -Robo? Just heard of it. No. I know 01:02:30.389 --> 01:02:32.989 this game exists because I think there's a trophy 01:02:32.989 --> 01:02:36.750 of this guy in Smash 4. Maybe it's Brawl. I don't 01:02:36.750 --> 01:02:38.869 remember. He is, yep. I think he's in the new 01:02:38.869 --> 01:02:41.760 one, too. Um, yeah, I have a tiny little experience. 01:02:41.900 --> 01:02:43.400 I know a little bit about it. You play as a little 01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:45.980 robot guy and you have to like help a family 01:02:45.980 --> 01:02:47.599 out or something and you have to like keep charge 01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:49.900 and stuff. So I don't know too much about it. 01:02:50.340 --> 01:02:52.039 So let's go ahead and take a look at the box 01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:54.500 here. The front of the case, I guess it would 01:02:54.500 --> 01:02:57.239 be so. All right. So on the front of the box, 01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:59.380 it's got, uh, I guess I'm assuming that's a little 01:02:59.380 --> 01:03:01.179 chibi robo down there. He's carrying his little, 01:03:01.219 --> 01:03:06.179 uh, his little plugin. That's a big plug for 01:03:06.179 --> 01:03:08.480 a little. Yeah. It's almost half his size. Yeah. 01:03:10.259 --> 01:03:14.260 Ridiculous. Why does he need so much power? He's 01:03:14.260 --> 01:03:16.960 got a lot of jobs to do, bro. Yeah, bro. He's 01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:20.079 got work to do. He's chibi. I guess they didn't 01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:25.239 have USBs back then. No, no way. Firewire. No, 01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:28.800 no, we want Firewire. Yeah, he's a little robot 01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:30.699 guy standing on a table, it looks like. He's 01:03:30.699 --> 01:03:34.599 got some T -sets back here. Yeah, cute little 01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:36.599 robot. Yeah, it looks interesting. I like it. 01:03:36.679 --> 01:03:39.159 It's definitely a Nintendo, for sure. It's a 01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:42.320 very, very vibrant front cover. Yeah, like I 01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:44.079 said, it's very Nintendo. Blue and the yellow. 01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:49.239 Red in the back. It's only for GameCube. It's 01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:51.800 only on GameCube. Alright, then on the back we 01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:55.539 got... E10. What? When did they start that, E10? 01:03:55.900 --> 01:03:59.400 Everyone 10? I don't know. I think it was around 01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:03.340 2004, 2005. And the reason I know that is because 01:04:03.340 --> 01:04:06.860 Shadow of the Hedgehog came out in 2005. And 01:04:06.860 --> 01:04:08.800 they wanted that to be a team -rated game. But 01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:11.380 then E10 Plus came out, so they chose that instead. 01:04:12.619 --> 01:04:15.500 I remember that was a big deal when they overhauled 01:04:15.500 --> 01:04:22.019 the MSRP. MSRP. Yeah, dude, I don't know. I'm 01:04:22.019 --> 01:04:26.880 thinking about cars. Yeah, still pissed. Yes. 01:04:27.059 --> 01:04:30.559 You're giving me stand -up all night. Didn't 01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:32.079 they get rid of something? They got rid of 1 01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:35.079 -2, right? K to A. Yeah, that's what it was. 01:04:35.099 --> 01:04:36.639 Kids to Adults, I got rid of it. Kids to Adults, 01:04:36.639 --> 01:04:39.300 yeah. And they got rid of AO, I guess, right? 01:04:39.500 --> 01:04:40.800 I mean, I don't think they got rid of it. There's 01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:43.300 just no game that's ever had it. Oh, okay. Because 01:04:43.300 --> 01:04:46.880 no one will sell it. All right. So, say hello 01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:50.119 to Chibi Robo. Like most families, the Sanderson's 01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:52.179 bicker about money and cleaning. Unlike most 01:04:52.179 --> 01:04:54.320 families, though, they also have robotic spiders, 01:04:54.619 --> 01:04:57.360 aliens, and talking toys to worry about. Enter 01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:00.480 Chibi Robo, a tiny robot program to spread happiness. 01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:02.940 Join him on his quest to restore order to the 01:05:02.940 --> 01:05:06.119 Sanderson house and save the world. He cooks. 01:05:06.340 --> 01:05:12.420 He cleans. He annihilates. So I didn't know about 01:05:12.420 --> 01:05:14.500 that part. Yeah, I didn't know about that either. 01:05:14.760 --> 01:05:17.320 That looks pretty cool. Why does the first part, 01:05:17.380 --> 01:05:19.039 that first picture look like it didn't load in 01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:21.860 properly? I don't know. It looks like a piece 01:05:21.860 --> 01:05:25.599 of broccoli. What's he cooking? Broccoli. What's 01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:28.699 he cooking? Potato? What is that, a potato? Looks 01:05:28.699 --> 01:05:31.579 like the map didn't load in. It's the oven, I 01:05:31.579 --> 01:05:33.760 guess. It's a stove. I'm sorry, stove. Yeah, 01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:38.539 stove, yeah. I guess. How is he going to save 01:05:38.539 --> 01:05:40.820 the world? I don't get it. Play the game. Oh, 01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:42.860 you got to play the game, bro. Yeah, all right. 01:05:43.019 --> 01:05:45.679 He's going to save the Sanderson's world, I guess. 01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:49.659 Yeah, he's going to save the house. The Sanderson's 01:05:49.659 --> 01:05:52.380 have nuclear bombs or something. And if things 01:05:52.380 --> 01:05:53.739 don't get clean, they're going to get launched 01:05:53.739 --> 01:05:56.840 or something. I don't know, bro. Play the game. 01:05:57.340 --> 01:06:00.639 I will, don't worry. I like his little toothbrush 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:03.199 toolies guy here. That's pretty cool. Yeah. That's 01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:06.820 nice. Get a little TV. Flying TV. Yeah, is he 01:06:06.820 --> 01:06:09.019 in something else? He looks familiar. I don't 01:06:09.019 --> 01:06:11.460 know. Is that just me? Alright, I guess it's 01:06:11.460 --> 01:06:13.280 just me. I know him from Smash. I don't know. 01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:16.360 I look at this and I just think of Rob, dude. 01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:18.960 I know this is not anything near the same thing, 01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:20.679 but I just think of Rob. Yeah, a little robot 01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:22.619 buddy of you. I can see it. I gotta fix mine. 01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:28.510 Yeah. It works. I just gotta... The wires. corroded 01:06:28.510 --> 01:06:31.949 off of the battery metal, so I just got to solder 01:06:31.949 --> 01:06:36.230 it back on. That's easy. I don't know. I'm just 01:06:36.230 --> 01:06:39.369 a little robot buddy, dude. Alright, are we guys 01:06:39.369 --> 01:06:42.190 looking forward to this game? I know I am. Yeah, 01:06:42.190 --> 01:06:45.070 it looks cool. It's a very interesting, different 01:06:45.070 --> 01:06:47.210 concept. Yeah, this is one of those weird games 01:06:47.210 --> 01:06:49.590 I always wanted to play. This is like Mr. Mosquito 01:06:49.590 --> 01:06:51.070 and stuff. I always wanted to play these games. 01:06:52.590 --> 01:06:54.489 I'm not going to lie. I don't think I've ever 01:06:54.489 --> 01:06:57.559 played a GameCube game. Really? Not one? Really? 01:06:58.559 --> 01:07:00.880 Not that I can think of. Besides Smash. I was 01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:02.199 going to say, you probably play Smash, right? 01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:06.699 Yeah. I mean, besides that, though. Wow. Huh. 01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:10.599 All right. I can't think of anything. We're going 01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:13.539 to change that now. Yeah. No, we didn't really 01:07:13.539 --> 01:07:15.679 have one growing up. No, I didn't get one until 01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:19.739 later. Everybody I knew didn't have one either. 01:07:19.940 --> 01:07:21.219 We had to Wii, which you could play GameCube 01:07:21.219 --> 01:07:23.780 games. My one friend that I had didn't have one. 01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:30.539 what do you have playstation xbox oh egg box 01:07:30.539 --> 01:07:34.179 all right so we're all looking forward to playing 01:07:34.179 --> 01:07:37.260 chibi robo uh let us know if you guys have any 01:07:37.260 --> 01:07:39.019 experience with this game if you're looking forward 01:07:39.019 --> 01:07:41.920 to playing it uh don't forget check us out on 01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:45.960 instagram youtube all that fun stuff and uh we'll 01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:47.860 see you for the next one peace