Today, we're talking blue blurs, big trolls,
and stupid special stages. It's Sonic Advance
for the Game Boy Advance. hello everyone welcome
to retro gaming beyond presents retro game club
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Joe, Eric, Ryan and Jacob Vanderloski and today
we are talking sonic advance for the game boy
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let's go ahead and jump right into it. We got
Word of the Nerd this week. What you guys been
up to? I've been playing Haunted Ground for the
PS2. You like Rule of Rose that much? Yeah. Well,
I actually wanted to play it even before I got
into Rule of Rose because I wanted to get more
into survival horror games around that time period
for the PS2. But I am enjoying it. I think it's
actually probably better than Rule of Rose only
because the combat doesn't suck. What? It's actually...
Yeah, I know it's so surprising right here. Yeah,
but the question is, would Eric and Ryan like
it? I don't know. I mean, they would definitely
like it more than Rule of Rose, but there's a
few things in there. That's not saying much.
Yeah, I know it's a pretty low bar, but I think
you guys wouldn't like the panic aspect of the
game. Other than that, again, There's no, like,
combat in this game. You can't fend for yourself.
You just more, like, run away and hide. So...
But it's also, like, rule of rules in that there's,
like, a lot of puzzles you have to solve. This
was made by Capcom, by the way. Yeah. So... Another
thing I wanted to mention about this game, which
was, like, completely bonkers to me. Crazy. I
guess not that crazy, but... For anybody that
doesn't know, the PS2 emulator... It's a thing
called patches. And these are just like slight
modifiers to the game. So I use them for like
visual enhancements. And one of those is the
widescreen patches. Because a lot of games on
the PS2 ran at a 4x3 aspect ratio. And the widescreen
patch patches it to a 16x9 aspect ratio. So I
went to the patches folder. I found the file
for Haunting Ground. and I wanted to convert
the widescreen patch into a 21x9 patch, which
is ultra -widescreen. But as I was looking in
there, I found the cheats for the game, kind
of like GameShark codes and stuff like that,
so you can get unlimited health, unlimited materials
and stuff like that. And I found one cheat that
was called Have Big Boobs. And then I scrolled
down a little bit more. There was Have Super
Big Boobs. Nice. Scroll down a little bit more.
Have ultra big boots. And I was just like, I
shook my head. I was like, why? And I know which
one you picked. I didn't turn on any of those.
Are these in the game, or are these things people
made? No, they're community patches. Oh, okay,
alright. I'm surprised there's only three settings.
Yeah. I'm surprised they don't cover the whole
screen. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Jacob's
been looking at boobs all week. So what else?
Yeah. I wish I could say the same. Don't we all?
Yeah. I bought the first Dead Island on PC for
like two bucks. So I've been playing that. Dude,
such a fucking good game. Yeah. The first Dead
Island was dope. It's so fucking good. I love
it. I just seen the second one's on sale. I was
thinking about getting it. It's worth it, bro.
For 15 bucks? Yeah, the second one's good. I
bought it full price, and I still think it was
worth it. I bought it for a PlayStation, so.
Have you played it yet? Not yet. I want to. I
need to. It's good, man. I like it. I mean, it's
not as good as the first one. Is it better than
Riptide? Yeah. Not even close. But for that game
to be in development, what, like almost 10 years?
It was a while, yeah. And to go through three
different developers? Three? Two or three, yeah.
Something like that. Dude, for that to happen
with that game and it still turn out pretty good,
it's impressive. I mean, it's the same thing.
You're just walking around. killing zombies and
stuff. It's pretty similar to 1, but it's actually
still pretty good. Alright, cool. Yeah, I would
definitely buy it for $15. I want to get the
DLC for it. I haven't played the DLC yet. For
2? Yeah. That game's not cross -platform, right?
I don't think so. I think we already looked at
it. Yeah, I think I did. I can't remember. Yeah,
I don't think it is, which is fucking wild. in
today's day and age for anything not be yeah
that kind of sucks not like we have time to play
video games together anyway uh i mean it's still
nice what do we do with this yeah we're not doing
this together though maybe not at the same time
but all right yeah dude the first one's good
i love the first one it's so good i want to get
to the point where i start Finding the skulls
again. Yeah, those were fun. Yeah, the skulls
were awesome. And getting the secret weapons.
I love the secret weapons. Yeah, they were cool
as fuck. Dude, so good. You start throwing knives
at zombies in the heading. Yeah, that was the
dumbest. Dude, it's so awesome. And the bat.
Yeah, the home run bat. The second one, does
it have anything like that? Not that I found,
no. Oh, okay. Yeah, see, that's what was so fun
about the first one. They just stopped doing
that. I don't understand why. Yeah, I don't know.
That has not been in games for the past, like,
half decade yeah i know there's stuff like that
just fun they took all the fun out of it yeah
i guess nobody plays video games for that anymore
everybody's fucking sweaty on multiplayer games
yeah maybe everybody wants a amazing storyline
and like amazing gameplay yeah i mean i like
that stuff too but yeah well of course but i
don't know you can have all that and still have
like stupid shit in the game yeah yeah But you're
always going to get people now be like, oh, well,
that breaks the game. Like, that's so unrealistic.
Yeah. There's always somebody with a dildo up
their ass that's going to complain. Yeah. It's
a zombie game, bro. It ain't real. Just everybody's
just got so fucking, you know, lately, dude.
It's all them Chinese, though. Yeah. They got
to be so careful. The Chinese. Yeah. Got to cater
to the to the Republic over there. I don't care.
It's got nothing to do with me. Well, they do.
It's ruining your games. Alright, what else we
got? Is that it? Anything else? I haven't really
been too much. Once I finished Sonic, I haven't
really touched much. I think I just take a little
break from video games. Yeah, understandable.
I bought a bunch of books. I bought some Junji
Ito. I got Tomy and Uzumaki. Nice. I haven't
read them yet. I just got those. I know. I've
seen that World of Horrors game was on sale.
I was thinking about getting it. Oh, yeah. It's
like that Ito -inspired game. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
I want to read them. They've been on my list
for a while. Dude, I got the books, and they're
freaking huge. I didn't think they were that
big. Yeah, I've seen the one with Uzumaki. I've
seen that one. That one's pretty big. Yeah, it's
a big book. It's about the same size. I think
it's actually a bit bigger. They had it at Walmart,
but it was like $60. I was like, eh. Oh, bro,
get them on Amazon. I think I paid fucking $15,
$19. Oh, shit. Yeah, dude. Well, I think this
one was like the hardcover, like nice one. Yeah,
this is the hardcover one. Really? Damn. Yeah,
dude. I always buy books on Amazon. They're cheap.
Yeah, they're cheap. Well, sometimes Walmart
has deals, but not always. Nah. Books are always
good on Amazon, dude. Every time I look, they're
on sale. Yeah, but you're supporting Amazon,
though. Wow. I'm supporting my wallet. If you
don't, a million other people. Yeah, I know.
You don't win that battle. I finished that Berserk
novel book. That was pretty good. Nice little
read. That was a quick book. No pictures? There
was actually like four illustrations from the
actual guy who made Berserk. That's pretty low
for you. Well, what? Wait, what's low? The amount
of pictures? listen man it makes it easier that's
one less page you have to read yeah uh i got
i had that uh tmnt um like a collection of books
yeah i was reading some of those it's called
uh what's it called black white and green or
white white black and green oh yeah i know which
ones you're talking about yeah yeah yeah i've
read only read a couple of those but they're
okay they're just like short little Yeah, I think
Marvel started that with the red, white, and
black or something they were calling it. Yeah.
They were doing that. These are cool though because
there's no other color, just black, white, and
green. Yeah, those do look really cool. Yeah,
some of them, they're just short stories. Yeah,
Marvel was doing the same stuff with their thing.
Yeah. I think that's better. I don't think I
touched any video games. I was working on my
car today. That sucked. Yeah. oh and i got another
book called uh i think it's called like my i'm
glad my mom died it was written by jeanette mccurdy
oh yeah i heard that's good i've heard that's
good yeah i want to read it so i bought that
but uh other than that i haven't been doing too
much cool cool yeah i've been i started with
some of my mangas i'd started that walking cat
one with a cat yeah nice it's pretty good it's
it's got some funnies in it you know um but like
he like chews on the dude's feet and stuff he's
booping zombies and stuff and everything so nice
yeah um but it's pretty good i like it um i started
spider -man 2 for the ps5 yeah it's sick bro
it's so good it's amazing yeah it's pretty crazy
i like i i like the um like how you can play
as one of the spider -men but then the other
one will come in and help you sometimes just
randomly doing fights and stuff that was sick
bro that's so awesome um such a good game yeah
it's awesome yeah yeah the only thing i have
one complaint i guess i have a couple complaints
the only thing is it's a little bit slower than
the first one which is fine i guess i know they're
trying to tell a story but like some of the beats
were just like so slow i'm like all right let's
pick this up a little bit and then i don't want
to sound like an incel but what the fuck did
they do to peter parker and mj's character models
dude They look so bad, man. Yeah. Like, they
looked fine in the first one, and then they just,
I don't know what the fuck they did. But then,
like, Aunt May looked totally fine. I watched
her thing and, like, Miles' mom and stuff. Like,
and Miles looks good. Yeah. And when you're actually
playing as Spider -Man, he looks fucking awesome.
Yeah. Like, I don't know why they fucked with
it, but. I don't know. I was told that the reason
for the face change, which, by the way. That
face change started in Spider -Man Remastered.
Yeah, I know they didn't, the original one, yeah.
Right. But for what I heard, I think the face
model, the new face model for Spider -Man is
more based on the person that voice acts him,
I think. I'm not sure. Or maybe they got someone
else. I think they got some different model for
him, or actor for him for some reason, like a
face model. I don't know why. What is it, a contract
they had to change it or something? I don't know.
I read it somewhere in a blog post that they
wrote. When you already have a game and you're
making the second game, you probably need a new
model. It makes no sense. Whatever. That game's
not perfect. I still think the first one's better.
I can see that. It's still fucking awesome. That's
the only complaint I have so far. The combat,
they changed, but they added more stuff and it's
dope. It's really good. but yeah other than that
not too much i've been watching game center cx
got some new episodes out i don't know if anybody
watches that i love that show that dude's so
funny man i love that guy i love when we were
watching those together yeah he's just that guy
just so joyful and just the way he interacts
with people is so fucking funny man yeah i was
watching one where he went to the arcade ones
and uh like there's some older japanese women
like talking to him while he was trying to record
And he's like, you guys want to be on camera?
And then they get all shy and run away and stuff.
Oh, man. It was so funny. I was going to say,
I got the juicy monkey. That IPA? Yeah, I've
been drinking the juicy monkey. I was thinking
about drinking a berry monkey right now. Yeah.
I got some koala mango crush or something. Oh,
yeah? A beer? Yeah, it was a sour. That sounds
pretty good. And it was pretty good. I gotta
look for different powers. Gorilla Crush. It
was like Gorilla Crush or something. It was actually
pretty good. And then I got Blueberry Crumble
Cider. Oh, dude, that was so good. That sounds
awesome. Me and Jeremy drank the shit out of
those. Yeah, that sounds pretty good. Yeah, like,
this Juicy Monkey, it's an IPA, but... which
I don't usually like them, but this is actually
not awful. It's got like a pineapple, like cherry,
like fruit punch taste to it. And it's actually
pretty good. I never had the juicy monks. I only
had the berry and the sour monkey. Yeah. Those
are both good, but I think you'd like this one.
It's still an IPA, but it's like a drinkable
one. I actually like it. So, and then, I mean,
I really liked the berry monkey. So yeah. Yeah.
I like their stuff. I like this company. So anybody
got anything else? No. All right. Then let's
jump over into our game. Okay, uh, we are playing,
uh, Sonic Advance. It was developed by Dimps,
um, which they done... I think they did a Neo
Geo Sonic game before this, which is why they
were chosen for this. Okay. Yeah, I know, right?
It was so random. But they developed, it was
developed by Dimps, but they worked with the
Sonic team for this. And it was published by
THQ in America for the Game Boy Advance in 2001.
And then this Dimps game company actually went
and made a Sonic Rush for the DS and stuff and
a bunch of other ones. Oh, nice. Yeah. This is
the first. Sonic game, along with Adventure 2
Battle. They were released on the same day, and
it's the first Sonic game for a Nintendo console.
Which, if anyone's old enough to know, Sega and
Nintendo in the 90s there, dude, they were at
each other's throats for a while. It's always
crazy to me to see Sega on Nintendo consoles.
It was also one of the first games to take advantage
of the GameCube, Game Boy Advance cable, because
you could trade Chao and stuff back and forth
with the GameCube, which is pretty cool. Yeah,
it's pretty cool. Alright, were you guys, did
you guys beat this game? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't
get the good ending. I was having problems getting
all the emeralds. Yeah. Dude, I had problems
like you did with my game. Yeah, we'll come back
to that. But yeah, I beat it too. Honestly, you
didn't miss much with the good ending. There
wasn't too much there, but. Yeah, yeah, I know.
We'll get to that. All right, so Sonic Advance,
it's a 2D sprite -based game. It's just classic
Sonic, you know, running through 2D levels. Robotnik's
trying to turn all the animals into robots because
he hates biology, I guess. I don't know. He just
really likes robots a lot. And you can play as
Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, or Amy and run through
the worlds and try and stop Robotnik. Which I
thought was pretty cool. They added new players.
I think this is their first time. Well, other
than the 3D Sonic Adventure, but I think this
is the first time you can play as Amy in a 2D.
Yeah, I think this is the first Amy game. 2D
game. You can play as her in Adventure on the
Dreamcast, which came out before this, but as
a 2D one, I think this is the first 2D one. Yeah,
I mean, it's classic 2D. It's definitely reminiscent
of the old Genesis games. I think this game has
a pretty good sense of speed compared to the
older ones and stuff. Yeah, I don't know. I think
the older ones were better, in my opinion. Oh,
yeah, definitely. I mean, for sure. But I'm just
saying, like, there's some parts in this game
where the screen and stuff, like the sense of
speed is actually pretty good. Yeah, that's my
biggest gripe with Sonic games sometimes. Yeah.
I feel like you're not moving fast enough. Well,
I mean, a lot of people forget, but these are
platformers. They're platforming games. Yeah,
and I think in my head that I don't want to play
a platformer in Sonic. I can understand that.
But this game, i don't know i'm 50 50 on this
one because there's definitely parts which i
was impressed with like with the speed on this
game um but then i don't know i feel like the
level designer fucking hates sonic the hedgehog
i don't know what his problem was but the level
design on some of these levels wars was fucking
atrocious it's just like he's trolling you i
don't understand what the point of it was like
that's what i'm saying like i want to like I
know I have to platform, but I don't want to
be intentionally hit. Yeah. There were so many
times that enemies were put in the exact right
spot to hit you. There were so many times where
spikes were... Spikes? Yeah, put there exactly
to hit you. It was those trolling springs to
send you back. And the older games had that,
but nowhere near the amount that this game had.
Yeah, and I mean, some of them were avoidable,
too. You know what I mean? These ones are...
pretty much not avoidable. Yeah. Unless if you've
already played the level like 10 times. Even
sometimes if you even knew it was there, there's
sometimes nothing you could do to stop it. Not
much you can do about it. Yeah. Yeah. I said
most of the time, like, that stuff's off screen
too. Well, you'll hit a... Dude, I could go on
for hours about this, but there is... You could
hit a spring and then it would just hit you right
into spikes or an enemy and once you hit that
spring, you can't do anything. Yeah. It's just
going to bring you right to it and it's so annoying.
Yep. Dude, I could talk for hours about this,
but there was this thing with Sonic games where
when you gain speed, you run to the right of
the screen and then you lose all agency on being
able to do anything about anything that comes
at you. You have no reaction time. And for these
older games, and especially for like these handheld
games, I can kind of understand that because
there's a limitation to the hardware. But like
for the newer games, like I played Sonic Superstars.
It's running on a PS5 and it does the same dumb
shit. When Sonic gains speed, put him into the
middle of the screen and pull the camera back
so a player is able to see the level and have
a reaction time to what's coming up. I don't
understand why they do that shit. That's what
I'm saying. Sonic is literally supposed to be
the fastest thing in the world. Yes. In the universe.
Right. And I can't run fast. Well, and the problem
with that is the game... you as the player aren't
playing as Sonic the Hedgehog, you're trying
to control Sonic the Hedgehog. And that's a problem
because he's so fast. The game should be able
to let you actually play as Sonic and give you
the ability to react to those things, but the
game design doesn't do that. That's what I'm
saying. I want that sense of speed. I want to
go fast. I want to run at fucking a thousand
miles an hour or whatever. I want to be able
to do that. And I feel like most games, they
just don't... They don't accomplish that sense
of speed. They don't. I feel like the third one,
3 and Knuckles, there was a lot of parts where
they handled that pretty well. I mean, that one
has its... 3 was definitely, like, definitely...
Like, I want it to be fluid. Yeah. You know what
I mean? Yeah, 3 and Knuckles did it a lot better.
There was still bullshit in that game, too, but
that one, I feel like, is the peak of that. When
I'm going fast, I want to stay fast, and then
when I get to an area that's a platforming area,
then I want to do the platforming. Right, exactly.
Break it in sections, not like, you know, jam
it all together. This game has fast into a spike
and then you got a platform. Yeah. Yeah. It's
aggravating. It was. And I feel like every single
thing was set up in the perfect way to hit you.
Because like sometimes you jump on a platform
and then one of the enemies would fire, had already
fired at you to hit you while you were on the
platform. Oh my God, dude. Yup. It's just everything
with that game. There was no room to breathe
in this game. It was so annoying. Dude, and I
hate this. In Sonic, when you spin Dash, it's
to build up speed and so you can move along.
This game is basically impossible to do that
because you just either get hit or fall off the
stage. Yeah, yeah. Especially in the ice level.
There's a little fucking... Bumper that shoots
you over if you spin dash you just go right over
and fall off the stage. Yeah Yeah, what if I'm
spin dashing or running it shouldn't matter I
don't know and then they had the ice that slowed
you down or the snow that slowed you down and
stuff there, too And then that boss was bullshit.
It's like sonic. Fuck that boss. Yeah, he's a
little tough Yeah, yeah, you gotta like the jumping
is weird because you can actually jump higher
than what you think Yeah, well, it's cuz you're
underwater. Yeah Yeah, I mean, I know we're bitching
on it, but I did like this game. I mean, the
levels... I did enjoy the game, too. The levels
were cool. I mean, I liked the good parts of
the levels. They were fun. It's not a bad game,
but it's not a great game. Yeah, I agree with
that. But I also like, too, because you could
play through as four different characters, and
even though it's the same levels, it kind of
gives a new feel to each level. Kind of. Yeah,
it's like replayability a little bit. Yeah. That's
another gripe I have, though, because... Whether
I'm playing as Sonic, Knuckles, or Tails, you
know, the speed is still the same. Yeah, it's
true. Like, Sonic needs to be faster. Sonic is
fast. He needs to be faster than Knuckles and
Tails. Well, part of the problem with that is,
and 3 did this a little bit too, is like, there's
no difference in the levels. Like, when you play
as Knuckles, you don't go anywhere different.
you know like in three there was some of that
where like kind of can if you like fly yeah there's
certain parts tails yeah exactly yeah there were
certain parts in three where like only knuckles
could go and only sonic could go but they didn't
do that at all in this one i feel like they should
have made like it was still the same level and
like there would still be parts that you would
play together as the same but there should have
been like specific knuckles parts specific tails
parts but they didn't do any of that yeah Which,
I mean, I understand. I mean, it's a small handheld
game made by a company that's only done one Sonic
game before, so I understand, but it would have
been cool to see that. So, yeah, so, like, Sonic
and Knuckles are pretty similar. Tails kind of
just breaks the game. You just fly over everything,
yeah. I mean, he just breaks the game. And then
the bosses become meaningless. Like, Tails can
just hit him with all his, like, the ice boss.
You can just swim up there and hit him constantly.
But the big thing is, like, Amy? amy is so fundamentally
different yeah like she handles so weird like
honestly to me she felt like a fan mod like someone
added her into the game afterwards yeah it was
definitely a weird experience yeah and some of
those levels weren't even designed i feel like
she was an afterthought because there was a couple
parts where i kind of like got stuck as even
like how the hell do i get out of here she can
do like a big leap jump yeah And I didn't know
that until like halfway by the time I was done
with the game with her. Well, you can't spin
dash with her and you can't jump on enemies with
her. You have to use a hammer. Yep. I mean, I
guess you can kind of jump on enemies with her,
but it's like a weird spin thing. It's not like
the normal Sonic attack. But I don't know. It
was fun to play. It's tough, but it's fun to
play with her because it's a new... It's cool
because it is different. This is such a short
game though, so it doesn't... It is, yeah. And
then the fact that you can save after every level,
it doesn't, it makes it, like, pretty easy. Because,
like, the older games, well, I don't know, I
guess in Sonic 3 you could save, too, but that
definitely, like, brings the length of the game
down, the fact that you don't have to start over
every time you die. Which was kind of weird,
because they had continues, but they didn't really
do anything. Yeah, I mean, you don't really need
them unless you're on the second level. I guess,
but doesn't it save after the first one anyway,
or does it only save after you beat the second
level? Yeah, I mean, I guess it's useless anyway.
Yeah, so I never used one, so I don't really
know what it continues for. I was only using
them when I was trying to get the emeralds. Yeah,
that I can see, but I'm pretty sure it saves
after every level. Unless it only saves after
you beat the boss, I don't actually know. I don't
know. This game is so easy to just stop in this
game. I didn't actually check that out, but okay.
So, yeah, let's talk about emeralds. Oh, God.
So I had lots of fun with this. Let me go ahead
and talk real quick. So in the old original Sonics,
when you get emeralds, when you go to the special
stage, you start at stage one. It doesn't matter
if you find the ring in the final stage. You
start on special stage one, and then you play
through them. You start at one, you go to two,
you go to three, right? In this game, that doesn't
happen. Each spring is set to the stage. I found
the final stage first, and I was playing that
one, and I was like, this is the first stage?
Holy crap, I'm never going to get all these emeralds.
I thought I was starting out on the hardest one,
and I didn't realize this, and I was like, holy
crap, these are impossible. Yeah, that last one
is really tough. Dude, I didn't realize until
I beat it that that was the last one, and I was
like, Jesus Christ. I bet the other ones were
easier after that. Yeah, I mean, it only took
me like two or three tries after that, but man,
I was ready to pull my hair out. I was like,
I don't know if I'm going to be able to get all
these emeralds. Yeah, the special stage. So it's
like this weird pseudo 3D thing. I feel like
they kind of do twos, like pipe thing. But it
doesn't work as good. They did not pick the right
thing for this game. No. No. They should have
just either left the pipe thing alone. Yeah.
Just because they went too complicated on a handheld
that can't handle it. Yeah. They, they try to
do a pseudo 3d thing where you're falling down
a pipe and you're trying to collect coins or
ring. I hate saying coins rings. And, uh, it's
like in this 3d area, but it's sometimes it's
really hard to tell where you are in relation
to the rings. So especially in that last one
is yeah. On that last one, there's a first set
of rings and I kept. not getting it i'm like
where the hell am i supposed to be lined up because
i thought i was right over it and i wasn't yeah
you're on like a hoverboard thing or whatever
and you're supposed to it's like kind of like
where that is yeah i they should just give you
like a shadow an arrow or something i don't know
they should have gave you some kind of thing
i had to play the first one like 20 times and
then i finally clicked with me like where i needed
to go yeah and then after that i i had a couple
problems with some of them and then the last
one was tough yeah It's just impossible to judge,
dude. Yeah, it is. You can play the level like
10, 15 times and still miss some because it's
just not the console for it. Oh, also, yeah,
while you're falling down, there's like a little,
I don't know, was it like green orb thing? Oh,
they're gold. They're gold. Oh, gold. Something,
yeah. And I had no idea what the hell that was
about. I either just kept saying failure. I'm
like, what the hell? And then I found out you
could trick. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't even know you
could do that. You have to do a trick in that.
It's like as soon as it makes a sound. Timing
that was a pain. And you get a bunch of coins
for it too. Rings. Yeah, rings. Sorry. Yeah,
I know. So I was doing them, but I wasn't doing
the tricks. And I'm like, how am I supposed to
get like 20 more rings? It took me a while to
figure that out too. Yeah, and then after you
get them all, all the emeralds. You don't even
really get to beat Super Sonic anyway. No. There's
one tiny level at the end of the game. You have
to beat the final boss again, and then you fly
off to the moon, and you play Super Sonic on
this one level, and it's such a simple boss.
He was so easy to finish. You get the nice ending
where Sonic falls from the moon after a few days.
I don't know what the fuck he was doing up there
for a few days. Hanging out, bro. He was just
hanging out. It said a few days later, and then
he comes falling down from the sky. I guess,
I don't know if they just added it as an extra
thing at the end, but it was fun. I enjoyed it.
You know, it was cool to at least have it in
there. Yeah. I know, I feel like we're shitting
on this game a lot, but I liked playing this
game. There's a lot wrong with this game, but
it is still a decent game. Dude, finding those
springs? Yeah. Impossible. I'm not gonna lie,
I looked up a map for those. I looked everything
up, dude. Yeah. Because it's almost impossible
to find those. Which is what's really nice in
this game I was gonna say real quick before you
get to that They actually did a pretty good job
because when you actually look at the maps for
these games, they're actually not that big They're
really not there's not a lot of to them But they
did a really good job of taking these tiny mass
and making them feel like they're really gigantic
Because yeah, like you said finding those rings
is kind of a bitch But dude Daria talk when you
actually look at the maps, they're really actually
not that big. I think I only found one by myself
Yeah, I did too which was the last one. Yeah
I found the one in the Angel Island. Yeah, okay.
That's the only one I found. I will say they
did a good job on making these levels feel rather
large. Yeah, I agree. I think it's because they
made them more vertical, more height, instead
of them more horizontal and stretching them out.
Yeah, it's true. In certain levels, there's levels
to it. You can have the bottom part of the level,
or you can go in the middle, and then you can
go up high, too. There's also a lot of going
left in this game, too. Yeah, that's something
Sonic does. You'll get to a certain point. All
three of those areas will get to a certain point,
and then you go back to the left a little bit,
and then it'll go back and open up again. Yeah,
circling back to the emeralds. It's actually
really nice in this game, though, because whether
you get the emerald with... Tails, Knuckles,
Sonic, or Amy, you keep them for everybody. So
I was just using Tails to farm the emeralds because
getting to those springs is impossible. You do
have to beat the level. You beat the level and
then it'll save the emerald for everybody. And
that's another thing. It'll save emeralds. You
don't have to get them all in one run and stuff.
Yeah, once you turn the game off, you still keep
the emeralds. It's not like the old ones, which
makes it easier. yeah i to do this in one sitting
yeah this was like one of the genesis games i
don't know if i would have beat it it would be
it would be tough yeah yeah that achievement
to like get all the emeralds i was like oh man
that's gonna suck yeah yeah but i didn't know
you kept them at that point yeah because like
in the old ones if you miss one that's it you
have to find the next Although this one only
has a set number of springs and the old ones,
you know, you could keep trying. You have multiple
chances. But if you miss one, though, you can't
go back. You have to go to the next one. That's
why I was like, oh, man, this is going to be
tough. Because if I mess up on the last special
stage, then I got to start all over again. That's
why I thought it was tough because I was starting
with the first one. Or the last one, I mean.
Because I have to get all this in one run on
this one? Holy crap. You can attack in this game.
Yeah. Which I... Don't know why. I guess just
because Knuckles can punch and they're just like
well I guess the other characters have to have
something. Yeah I guess so. But yeah I wish they
had done something more with that. That would
have been cool if they had made like the bosses
like you had to like punch them or something.
Yeah. Yeah it feels like they just threw it in
there and literally no use for it. There was
a couple times like if you're on a slope and
you don't have enough speed you can attack and
kind of go up the slope. For you to use that
on enemies you probably do It'd probably hurt
you instead of just jumping on them. Yeah, I
don't think there's any really... I can't...
The only boss I could think of is maybe the Vegas
one? The casino one? Yeah. Yeah. That's about
it. I don't think you could really punch any
of the other ones. Even then, you could just
still jump on them. Yeah, it's more easier just
to jump on them. And then, Sonic had, like, an
air dash thing that I never used. I don't...
I don't remember. If you, like, double tapped
in the air, he'd, like... He would, like, dash
to the left or right or whatever. You mean, like,
the little, uh, like... Yeah, I know what you're
talking about. Yeah, I never used it. I don't
know what it was for. I guess it was like a dodge
thing. Maybe that's why I was getting hit all
the time. I think it makes his attack like a
little bit bigger. No, there's like if you jump
in the air and you double tap to the left or
right, he does like a Naruto thing, puts his
arms behind him and he like dashes in the air
to the left or right. Oh, okay. I don't think
I even done that. Yeah, I think it was like a
dodge thing, but it's so hard to pull off and
it doesn't really do anything. okay yeah i don't
think i even did that yeah it's weird okay yeah
it just seems like they were throwing stuff in
here but they didn't do anything with any of
it so all right anybody else want to say anything
about gameplay controls yeah i have a few things
um i know eric mentioned this just briefly then
but um if sonic's in the air and you hit the
jump button again he does that like there's this
little like animation yeah And what that does
is that extends its hitbox, the thing they introduced
in Sonic 3. So it's just a nice little wave.
If there's an enemy that's close but not too
close, you can use that and you can bounce off
them. I don't know if it does that in this game,
but I know in Sonic 3, when you do that, it'll
also protect you from enemies with spikes. So
like some enemies... Spikes on their outer outer
body and in Sonic 3 if you use that little Extended
attack whatever it's called. You want to get
hurt by those spikes. I don't think there were
any enemies with spikes in this There's a couple
there's like a blowfish enemy. Oh, okay. Oh,
yeah, I think there was like one other one I
don't I don't know. I don't know if it protects
you or not. Probably not. This game is here to
fuck you. So Yeah. I don't know if that's what
it's here for, but it definitely does do it.
It definitely did do it. It did it pretty well,
so. I mean, I broke a controller with this game,
so. Yeah, true. It was an accident, to be fair.
I'm sure that controller had seen. Dude, that
controller was on its last fucking leg, so. And
this is the game that put it over. Yeah. Yeah.
It was just special stages, dude. It was. Well,
okay, so it was... To be fair, I don't think
it was really this game. It was the fucking emulator.
I don't know what it was with this game, but
my emulator hated this game. I don't know why
you had so many problems. I don't know. I played
this game no problem. It crashed like three or
four times on me. But I had weird things with
the achievements. Like when I opened up the Chao
Garden, the... chaos emerald achievement started
at one and just counted up to seven and went
back to one up to seven down to one i don't know
what it was dude it was all over the place all
right i had things with a single issue i had
things with the time attacks when i kept restarting
the time attacks sometimes it just didn't show
up on the bottom right so yeah it was weird dude
yeah mine had a problem with the emeralds yeah
i had to go back and replay the levels do the
special stages again. It was so weird, dude.
And I beat the levels too. Yeah. But they just,
for whatever reason, when I closed it out, it
just didn't save it. Yeah. The emulator shit
the bed. I don't know. Yeah. I'll get back to
that in achievements, but. So there's power -ups
in this game. And, you know, that's pretty standard
for 2D Sonic games. So there is the lightning
shield. And then there's just the standard shield.
Protective shield. But. Yeah, the lightning shield
attracts rings towards you, which is the same
thing it does in Sonic 3. Which, in this game,
is kind of useless because you can't become Super
Sonic anyway. Right. I mean, I guess it's still
bringing you rings, but at a certain point, it's
kind of useless. I felt it was useless anyway
because I felt like you had to be really close
to the rings to pick them up anyway. And at least
in Sonic 3, too, it gives you an extra jump.
That's what I was going to mention, is that it
gives you an extra jump. It doesn't do that in
this one, right? No. But that's the other thing
about playing Sonic in Sonic 3 that made him
unique, was that Tails and Knuckles couldn't
use those abilities, but Sonic could. It was
nice to see the lightning shield, but the fact
they took that out was very lame to me. I agree.
And I feel like the invincibility one or whatever
one... It didn't really make you that much faster.
Yeah, I don't think in this game it does. They
have the speed shoes instead. The shoes, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Which I feel like didn't make
you that much faster. Is that what you're talking
about? Yeah, I think so. The speed shoes, really,
I don't know. I mean, they're quick enough. I
feel like in this game, that's pointless, though.
Yeah, because you're just going to get hit in
three seconds anyway. Yeah. Because there's not
a lot of area in this game where you can just
go fast. Yeah. This game's more platforming than
it is speeding. I mean, I feel like it's 50 -50.
It does have some good speeding parts. The problem
is that those parts just end up getting hit.
There's no... You don't go through the speeding
parts and then be like, that was cool. You go
through the speeding parts, hit something, go,
mother... And you get so mad. It's just not fun.
I don't know. I think... Like you said, this
is by the same company that made Rush. Yeah,
yeah. And I think this is just a precursor to
Rush because Rush was a good game. The sense
of speed was there. You could do tricks. That
game was awesome. I haven't played in a long
time, but I do remember enjoying it a lot. Yeah,
Rush was cool. Yeah, that game was dope. I think
Rush was in my head when I was playing this game
because it's kind of like the same art style
and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's just not
the same. Yeah, so with the graphics and stuff,
there was a lot of cool parts because there was...
The level design, like, the actual, like, design
of the level was really cool. There was a lot
of, like, nice backgrounds. Like, there was parts,
too, where, like, where you're running and you
go, like, through that waterfall area. Like,
you fall through that and then you keep running.
That was cool. Yeah, that was cool. There's a
part where, like, running through the forest
and, like, the trees and the leaves and stuff.
Like, all that stuff was really cool. Like, the
final level. When you go on the bridge. Yeah.
The background was dope. Yeah, it was cool. There's
the part with the spaceship where you jump in
front of the rockets and stuff. There's just
a lot of cool stuff like that in this game. But
like I said, then you just kind of end up running
into a spike and you're like, well, that was
cool, but now I'm pissed off again. Yeah, pretty
much. That spaceship level was tough. Yeah, that
level's a bitch. Once you figure out how to get
through it, man. Yeah. Because it's so long,
and the time actually counts down on that one.
Yeah, so, and then also, a cool thing is, I think
this is the first 2D game to use the new Sonic
designs, when he was, like, redesigned into the
newer, like, lengthier, a lanky Sonic. Got that
edge. Yeah, yeah. So I think this is the first
time any of those sprites were used, like, the
animations on the sprites for the characters
were pretty cool. There was, like, an impatience
one, you know, there was, like, one special one
for, like, looking up and stuff. You know, he's,
like, grabbing onto things, jumping. I don't
know, there's just a lot of cool, like, sprite
work and everything. Like, the graphics were
pretty good in this game. Yeah, no, I agree.
This definitely looks good. It's a definitely
good -looking game. The levels were all very
vibrant and colorful and everything, so... Very
Sonic -esque. Well, speaking of that, like, a
lot of the levels in this game, too, looked exactly
like some of the Genesis. levels because like
the first one is green hill but i mean that's
pretty standard for sonic games like the first
level is just this uh right yeah like green grass
and stuff like that but then the second level
it looked like it looked a lot like metropolis
zone from sonic 2 the uh casino levels like looked
like casino night from sonic 2 there was an ice
cap level there was an angel island level which
i think was more like a marble garden zone from
sonic 3 So there was a lot of, like, reused stuff.
Even some of the enemies, like, they're, like,
sprite, like, pixel for pixel, like, sprite recreations
from the Genesis games, too. Yeah, I'm sure they're
doing that as, like, an homage to the older stuff.
Yeah, you gotta have Casino Night, bro. Yeah.
Man, listen, man, I like Casino Night and Carnival
Night. It's got the best Sonic soundtrack ever.
Yeah, true. I always liked, um... And, uh, yeah.
What was that, uh, second, what was the... Chemical
Zone. I was like Chemical Plant Zone. Let's jump
over to the sound. Do we have to? The sound is
not as good as graphics, that's for sure. I haven't
played a Game Boy Advance in a long time, but
I thought there was something wrong with my sound
on this game. As soon as I started up, I was
playing on my handheld emulator. I was like,
what is wrong with my emulator? It sounds awful.
Is that what a Game Boy Advance sounds like?
I think so. No, I don't think so. I don't know.
I think they do. I don't remember. Maybe just
because it was made for the speakers on the Game
Boy Advance, it doesn't sound that bad, but I
don't know, man. I don't know. It sounded like
a Flash game to me. It was so bad. Yeah, it's
not that great. I don't remember a Game Boy Advance
game sounding like that. I really don't. Could
be rose -tinted glasses. Rose -tinted earbuds
you got going on. Yeah, my earbuds. I don't know.
I don't think they sound that bad. I don't remember.
Because if you go and watch a video on Pokemon
on Game Boy Advance, dude, I guarantee you it
sounds better. I guarantee it. I have the Crash
Bandicoot N -Traced soundtrack on my computer,
and that sounds just fine. That was a game for
the Game Boy Advance, and I think it sounds...
Pretty good. Yeah, but you're not playing it
out of a Game Boy Advance speaker. Yeah, true.
You're listening to composed music. I wonder
if you looked up sound clips for this game if
it sounded like that, but I don't know. I mean,
realistically, it's just the beginning. Once
you get past that, all the other sounds are fine.
Well, I think it's just you get used to it. I
guess so. Yeah, no, the beginning of this game
is... It does sound awful, yeah. It's god awful.
It does sound pretty bad. And even, like, the
soundtrack, it's, like, even with the sound sounding
the way it is, the music in this game is, it's
alright. I don't know. It's not the best Sonic
soundtrack. No. I mean, it's Sonic music, though.
It fits what it should do. Yeah. For me to say,
like, compared to, like, 2 and 3, man, like...
Oh, yeah. You're not jamming out to this one.
No. It's just background noise, really. I mean...
Yeah. I don't know. I'm trying to remember. Some
of the past games we played, I can hear some
of the songs still. I don't really remember any
music in this game. Senti? Yeah, there's a couple
from that game. I know you guys, but I like some
of the stuff where Rule of Rose was good. I can
still hear some of that stuff, but in this one,
I can't really remember any of the songs in this
game. All I hear is Sonic's rings falling on
the ground. Constantly. Which I got to say, man,
they made that one soundbite and they stuck with
it like in every fucking. Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah.
Yeah. And then they sold it. Never changed. They
sold it to those cash registers or whatever.
Zoomers. Yeah, I remember that. The first time
I was in some gas station, I heard that noise.
I was like, what the hell? Like the sonic, like
almost every noise is jumping. Yeah. Yeah, it's
all the classic. The springs, all that stuff,
yeah. The air bubble. I will say it was cool
on the last level when he had the original bosses.
Robotnik had his two original from the first
and second game, and they had the original music
in there. That was cool. Yeah, that was awesome.
Yeah. The sound quality -wise is not great, but
the sounds themselves is fine. The music's fine.
I just think the opening was bad for some reason.
I'm just so surprised by how that sounded. I
swear to God, I thought that my handheld was
broken. I did too. I was like, what is going
on? I was messing with the sound output and stuff.
I was like, what is going on? We were trying
to set up the multiplayer thing. I think I said
something about it. I was like, dude, this sounds
fucking awful. I was playing it before that.
I was playing it before that. You must have missed
the intro or something. Dude, I guess so. I was
like, this sounds awful. Usually, I'll fast forward
through it. because I'm not going to sit through
splash screen and whatever. The first time I
load up a game, I will, but I guess I just didn't
hear it for a couple days, and I was like, oh,
dude. Nails on a chalkboard. I got to say, this
game is kind of a pain to keep getting into because
it takes forever to get to the start menu, and
then if you die, you got to go all the way back
to the start menu. It just takes forever. As
we always say, thank God for Fast Forward. Yeah,
dude, I used Fast Forward a lot. I did too. I
think the only other thing I want to mention
is I don't know why they did this, but they made
Sonic and Tails together. You can play together
as a secret code. I'm not sure why they didn't
just add that in the menu. Yeah, I don't know
why they made it a secret. Or beat the game or
something. Yeah, and unlock it. That would have
been a cool unlockable. Yeah, for getting the
good ending. Because there was no... I don't
know where you would have got that secret code
from. I don't think it was in the manual or anything.
Yeah, I don't. And it's just like a random code,
too. Yeah, I don't think it's a Nintendo or a
Sega code. No, it's not. It's just like up, down,
up, right, down, right, something like that.
But yeah, I don't know. I thought that was a
weird choice. It would have been cooler as like
a collectible. For sure. Unlockable, yeah. And
I wonder if you could have linked those up and
played those as two -player like that. I don't
think so. No, probably not. Which, speaking of,
This game, I think this is actually the first
game we've played that has multiplayer in it.
I don't think any of the other games had multiplayer.
No, I don't think so. But in this game, you could
use the Game Boy Link cable, and you could actually
play up to four people multiplayer in this game,
which is pretty cool. I tried to get it to work,
but we couldn't get it to work, but we watched
some videos on it. I think there's just like
a race mode where you just see him get to the
level the fastest. And then there's, like, a
collecting mode where there's, like, a bunch
of random chows throughout the level, and you're
trying to collect those and see who can get the
most, which, you know, we didn't get to try it,
but it looked cool. I think it's a cool thing
that they added in there. Yeah, I mean, it's
pretty sweet. I know I really wanted to get it
going, but... Yeah, we'll have to try and figure
that out for the next game, but... It's just
so hard to emulate, man. Yeah, I know. Well,
especially online multiplayer shit like that.
Yeah, I know. Like, how do you... Did you have
to have four separate games for this or could
you just do this from one game? I think there's
other modes. I think there's like a ring collecting
one too or something, but some of the modes required
you to have four packs and some of them didn't.
Okay. So there was like a couple that you could
play with one game pack and there was a couple
you could play with the four game packs. Yeah.
That's pretty cool for one game to be able to
play with four people. Yeah, and I don't know
if it was four people only or if you could do
like two or three as well. Oh, yeah. I don't
know. Yeah, it was pretty cool that they added
in there. And then each person would pick one
character and then you could play through the
levels. I think you could select any level. Yeah,
that's cool. Cool idea. All right. Anybody got
anything else they want to say about Sonic the
Hedgehog? Sonic Advance. Forever hold your peace.
I know we talked a lot of negativity about this
game, but it's actually a pretty decent game.
Yeah, yeah. We'll get to that in the final verdict.
But yeah, I agree. All right, so let's talk achievements.
So did you guys finish? Did you guys master this
game? I sure did. No, I haven't yet. I'm going
to, though. Yeah, I finished it, too. It's not
that hard. No. I want to get the emeralds out
of the way and then just do everything else.
That's basically what I did, yeah. Since I've
had a fucking problem with it, it's just taking
me longer. Yeah, if your game doesn't crash three
fucking times, it's not that bad. Yeah. Yeah,
it's not too bad. And you break your controller.
Dude, and the annoying thing is it kept crashing
on the last fucking level, dude. So I had to
play through the game four times. Where else
would it crash? Yeah, I know. It's gonna crash
on the first level. I know, dude. So I had to
play through it four times to get that don't
die achievement, which is so annoying. And then,
like, the third time I made, like, an aggressive
gesture with my hands and I accidentally smacked
right where the stupid, uh... wire connects to
the controller right on the desk and i cracked
it right there and i'm like son of a gun so it
won't connect anymore no more aggressive gestures
for you yeah i really need to not do that i i
wasn't actually trying to break anything i wasn't
trying to throw it i wasn't trying to do anything
i just like what the hell and i smacked it right
there but i think that would make me even madder
yeah yeah because you weren't even trying yeah
yeah i know right yeah but that no death achievement
is a little tough yeah I mean, that controller
was falling apart anyway. Yeah, I mean, the achievements
aren't awful. No, they're not that hard. You
know, the emeralds are a pain in the butt just
because the special stages are a pain in the
butt. Yeah, but if you do them enough, you learn
them. Yeah. I mean, they take a little bit of
time, but they're not that bad. The majority
of them, just beat the game as Sonic Gaming,
Tails and Knuckles. Get all the emeralds. There's
a couple no -hit boss achievements which are
a pain in the ass. Special requirement boss things.
Yeah, like get 100 -something rings, which is
kind of just a no -hit anyway, just with an extra
step. The hardest ones definitely beat the game
without dying. That one's a pain in the butt.
But, I mean, it's not awful. There's a couple
speedruns in here. Yeah, speedruns. Realistically,
they're not too bad. No, they're not too bad.
They're not the worst. Yeah, we've had worse.
No, I think this is a pretty good set. Honestly,
I think this is one of the better sets we've
had. I agree. This set is what most retro achievements
should probably be. I agree. Yeah, yeah. It's
not easy, but it's not impossible. And it's got
a good variety of fun achievements. There's some
leniency on the speed runs. Definitely a good
set. I ran through this game. Yeah, you did,
yeah. I was like, oh, I'm doing pretty good.
Then I looked, you had one left. I was like,
dude, what the fuck? I was like, did you work
this week? Dude, I don't know. I was just running
through this game. It's such a short game, dude.
Yeah. Yeah, it is. I mean, you can get like 40
achievements in like two days. I know. I was
like, I thought I was doing good, but apparently
not. I gotta sit down one day and like actually
play it. I haven't really been playing it too
much. Yeah. I just had some time and I just ran
through them. Okay, those are the achievements.
So let's go ahead and get over to our final verdict.
Alright, so as always, just a quick explanation.
We don't do scores or numbers or anything like
that. It's just a... Did you enjoy it and would
you recommend it? So who wants to go first? You
know what, Jacob, why don't you go first this
time? Well, thank you. Yeah, I enjoyed this game.
It was, you know, I'm a big Sonic fan and it
definitely reminded me a lot of the Genesis 2D
games and going through all the levels was fun.
As the game went on, it got pretty hard and pretty
ridiculous with, you know, just everything, enemies
and the platforming, but I still enjoyed it.
Would you recommend it? You know what? I don't
think I would recommend this game only because
there's so many other 2D Sonic games that you
can play and get a much better experience. Again,
I'm a big Sonic fan and I didn't get much out
of this game. I feel like I could have gone the
rest of my life without playing it and not losing
sleep over it. If you want a similar experience
to Sonic Advance, you could play the Sonic 1
and 2 mobile ports. Both of those run at 60 frames.
They have widescreen support. You can play as
Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles. You can play as Sonic
and Tails. They have the shield from Sonic 3
if you want to include them in your playthrough.
The Sonic 1 port also has... You can play as
Super Sonic. It has the seven emeralds. Because
in the original Sonic, there was only six emeralds.
And you couldn't become Super Sonic. There's
a remaster. of sonic 3 and knuckles it's a fan
-made thing but i played a little bit of it and
it's it's really good and then there's sonic
mania and that's you know that game's just awesome
that game really perfected the sonic for like
the 2d sonic formula in my opinion and as we
mentioned before there's also sonic rush and
sonic rush adventure those are also really good
games too so i would much prefer you play those
games over sonic advanced one i never played
sonic advanced two and three So I can't really
speak on them, but... I've heard they got better.
Really? I thought everybody hated 2. I don't
think so. I heard they got better. I thought
I heard 2 was terrible. We'll find out someday,
I guess. I guess so. Alright, so no recommendations,
Jacob? No. Play any of the other 2D Sonic games
I listed. Eric, did you enjoy it? Yeah, I think
I did. This is a good game. I know we were talking
smack a little bit earlier, but I think that's
just, you got to talk smack about Sonic, man.
Yeah, it's a good game. I think, you know, it's
not a perfect game. It definitely has its flaws.
It does need work. But I think I enjoyed it because,
and I'm not trying to be an asshole, but just
coming off a rural rose. It was like a nice,
just kind of like more of a mindless game. You
know, just kind of like run through the levels
and play Sonic. Yeah, it's simple. There's nothing
to think about. There's no little girl taking
some man and making her a dog. Some fucking plot
that makes no goddamn sense. Absolutely insane
story going on. Yeah, I had fun with it. I got
through it pretty quick. So I was definitely
enjoying it. Would you recommend it? Yeah, I
would. It's fast, man. I mean, you can beat this
game in an hour. So you got time. I mean, if
you can play Sonic the Hedgehog. I know some
people who can't beat Sonic the Hedgehog. Yeah.
And they review video games. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not throwing any shade out there anywhere. Yeah,
okay. No, I recommend it. You got time. Throw
it out there. Play it. It's easy. It's simple.
The last couple levels get a little tough, but
it's just, like I said, it's a little mindless
fun. Ryan, do you enjoy it? Yeah, I enjoyed this
game. I mean, if you've played Sonic and you
know how those games are, I think this is a pretty
lackluster Sonic. Yeah, I can see that. But I
still don't think it's bad. I did enjoy this
game. I think it's... Just Sonic. Just not the
best way that they've done him. But it's still
easy enough to where you're just running around
and just a little bit of platforming. But simple,
easy. And again, it's fucking short. So like
Eric said, you can be at like an hour if you
really tried. So if you just want something quick
and play a Sonic game you've never played before,
just want to waste time, pretty good game. Do
you recommend it? Yeah. I don't see why not.
Like, again, if you like Sonic and you've played
a couple of them and you want to try one or you
just want a time waster, this one's good for
that. But don't go into a thing that's, like,
by Sonic standards, I guess, good, I guess. I
don't know. It's just below par for Sonic. I
don't know. Yeah, I understand what you're saying,
yeah. It kind of sucks. Sonic, like, first three
games peaked, and then... Well, dude, I mean,
Sonic 3 & Knuckles is just the pinnacle of, like,
fucking 90s gaming. It's... Yeah. Sonic's first
three games were, like, the best, and then after
that, it was kind of, like, a downhill. I mean,
there's some good games, you know, obviously.
And it's tough, too, because this is on a handheld,
so you can't hold that up to the same standard.
Sure. By a company that's only done... By all
means, never really made a Sonic game, you know
what I mean? Yeah, for the fucking Neo Geo. And
that's not something insane. So I get it. I get
the limitations and all that stuff, but just
some of the choices. The special stages are probably
the worst thing about this game. But other than
that, it's good fun. Not to jump in real quick,
I just had a quick question. Is this the first
one where you get speed from those flagpole things?
I think so. I don't even know any other Sonic
game that does that. Does Rush do that? I don't
remember. It's been a long time since I've played
Rush. Grab the flags and pull yourself forward.
Yeah, I don't remember ever seeing that in a
Sonic game. I think Rush does that. I think Generations
does that as well. I don't know. It's been a
long time since I've played Rush. I thought that
was a cool addition. Yeah, I definitely enjoy
this game. I mean, it's just a classic 2D Sonic
game. There's a lot of good here. The levels
are fun. There's a lot of cool interaction with
the backgrounds. There's a good sense of speed
in this game. There's a lot of points where you're
jamming through the levels and it's fun. But,
I mean, there's also points too where it's annoying,
but I don't think it's enough to take away from
the fun in this game. I think it's cool that
there's four, I mean, in theory, four different
ways to play this game with the four different
characters. So that's cool. The fact that they
even added the emeralds at all and have a super
Sonic stage. I think, oh, that's cool. I think
there's a lot of fun here. I'm 50 -50 in recommending
it, though, just because I'm afraid that if this
is somebody's first Sonic and they play this
and they're like, oh, this is Sonic. Like, I'm
afraid it would stop them from playing other
Sonics. i don't know man you always say if it's
50 50 then that's a no i know i'm i'm still i'm
on the fence i'm trying to think i'm i think
i would recommend it i think it's fun enough
and that there's i feel like the the annoying
parts of the game aren't enough to to push anybody
away i think it'd just be like oh i need to figure
this out you know i need to play more and and
get good at this To be fair, I don't think this
would be anybody's first Sonic. That too. I feel
like if anybody's going to get into Sonic the
Hedgehog, it's going to be the Genesis one. Yeah,
for sure. So yeah, I think I would recommend
it. So I'm going to start asking this. Has this
changed anybody's least or most favorite games?
No, not this one. No. Yeah, me either. It's a
good game, but... Scoon number one. Scoon still
can't be beat. Scoon Squad. Scoon Squad Pod.
Scooners. All right, so that's our final rhetoric.
That's our review of Sonic Advance. Let us know
what you think, if you agree with us, if you
disagree. All right, we're going to get on to
our next game, which is going to be Chibi -Robo
for the GameCube. You guys have any experience
with Chibi -Robo? Just heard of it. No. I know
this game exists because I think there's a trophy
of this guy in Smash 4. Maybe it's Brawl. I don't
remember. He is, yep. I think he's in the new
one, too. Um, yeah, I have a tiny little experience.
I know a little bit about it. You play as a little
robot guy and you have to like help a family
out or something and you have to like keep charge
and stuff. So I don't know too much about it.
So let's go ahead and take a look at the box
here. The front of the case, I guess it would
be so. All right. So on the front of the box,
it's got, uh, I guess I'm assuming that's a little
chibi robo down there. He's carrying his little,
uh, his little plugin. That's a big plug for
a little. Yeah. It's almost half his size. Yeah.
Ridiculous. Why does he need so much power? He's
got a lot of jobs to do, bro. Yeah, bro. He's
got work to do. He's chibi. I guess they didn't
have USBs back then. No, no way. Firewire. No,
no, we want Firewire. Yeah, he's a little robot
guy standing on a table, it looks like. He's
got some T -sets back here. Yeah, cute little
robot. Yeah, it looks interesting. I like it.
It's definitely a Nintendo, for sure. It's a
very, very vibrant front cover. Yeah, like I
said, it's very Nintendo. Blue and the yellow.
Red in the back. It's only for GameCube. It's
only on GameCube. Alright, then on the back we
got... E10. What? When did they start that, E10?
Everyone 10? I don't know. I think it was around
2004, 2005. And the reason I know that is because
Shadow of the Hedgehog came out in 2005. And
they wanted that to be a team -rated game. But
then E10 Plus came out, so they chose that instead.
I remember that was a big deal when they overhauled
the MSRP. MSRP. Yeah, dude, I don't know. I'm
thinking about cars. Yeah, still pissed. Yes.
You're giving me stand -up all night. Didn't
they get rid of something? They got rid of 1
-2, right? K to A. Yeah, that's what it was.
Kids to Adults, I got rid of it. Kids to Adults,
yeah. And they got rid of AO, I guess, right?
I mean, I don't think they got rid of it. There's
just no game that's ever had it. Oh, okay. Because
no one will sell it. All right. So, say hello
to Chibi Robo. Like most families, the Sanderson's
bicker about money and cleaning. Unlike most
families, though, they also have robotic spiders,
aliens, and talking toys to worry about. Enter
Chibi Robo, a tiny robot program to spread happiness.
Join him on his quest to restore order to the
Sanderson house and save the world. He cooks.
He cleans. He annihilates. So I didn't know about
that part. Yeah, I didn't know about that either.
That looks pretty cool. Why does the first part,
that first picture look like it didn't load in
properly? I don't know. It looks like a piece
of broccoli. What's he cooking? Broccoli. What's
he cooking? Potato? What is that, a potato? Looks
like the map didn't load in. It's the oven, I
guess. It's a stove. I'm sorry, stove. Yeah,
stove, yeah. I guess. How is he going to save
the world? I don't get it. Play the game. Oh,
you got to play the game, bro. Yeah, all right.
He's going to save the Sanderson's world, I guess.
Yeah, he's going to save the house. The Sanderson's
have nuclear bombs or something. And if things
don't get clean, they're going to get launched
or something. I don't know, bro. Play the game.
I will, don't worry. I like his little toothbrush
toolies guy here. That's pretty cool. Yeah. That's
nice. Get a little TV. Flying TV. Yeah, is he
in something else? He looks familiar. I don't
know. Is that just me? Alright, I guess it's
just me. I know him from Smash. I don't know.
I look at this and I just think of Rob, dude.
I know this is not anything near the same thing,
but I just think of Rob. Yeah, a little robot
buddy of you. I can see it. I gotta fix mine.
Yeah. It works. I just gotta... The wires. corroded
off of the battery metal, so I just got to solder
it back on. That's easy. I don't know. I'm just
a little robot buddy, dude. Alright, are we guys
looking forward to this game? I know I am. Yeah,
it looks cool. It's a very interesting, different
concept. Yeah, this is one of those weird games
I always wanted to play. This is like Mr. Mosquito
and stuff. I always wanted to play these games.
I'm not going to lie. I don't think I've ever
played a GameCube game. Really? Not one? Really?
Not that I can think of. Besides Smash. I was
going to say, you probably play Smash, right?
Yeah. I mean, besides that, though. Wow. Huh.
All right. I can't think of anything. We're going
to change that now. Yeah. No, we didn't really
have one growing up. No, I didn't get one until
later. Everybody I knew didn't have one either.
We had to Wii, which you could play GameCube
games. My one friend that I had didn't have one.
what do you have playstation xbox oh egg box
all right so we're all looking forward to playing
chibi robo uh let us know if you guys have any
experience with this game if you're looking forward
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see you for the next one peace