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Today, we're talking pink submarines, crab fuel,

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and sea slugs with necklaces. It's Sqoon for

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the Nintendo Entertainment System. Hello everyone,

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welcome to Retro Gaming Beyond presents Retro

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Game Club. We're your hosts, Joe, Eric, Ryan,

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and Jacob Vanderloski, and today we are talking

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Sqoon for the NES. But first, before we get there,

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we got a quick announcement. We have socials.

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We got Instagram at RGB underscore Game Club.

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We've had a YouTube channel at Retro Gaming Beyond

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HD. We've got the podcast, and we have like full

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gameplays and stuff in there as well. And then

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we have a Discord. I don't know if there's an

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easy link for the Discord or not, Ryan. There

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is, yeah. Okay. It's still a work in progress.

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Yeah, that's fine. By the time this episode's

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out, it won't be a problem. We'll put all those

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links in the info, so you can check those out

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there, too. But yeah, come by, check them out,

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come join them. Put some comments out. It'll

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be cool to see you guys out there. All right.

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So now we're going to do our little Word of the

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Nerd section. Just kind of talk about other nerdy

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stuff in our life, because we're into all kinds

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of stuff. comic books video games music tv shows

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whatever so we just want to kind of discuss some

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other stuff share stuff with you guys you guys

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can share stuff back to us maybe we can learn

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some new stuff we're like oh we didn't know that

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existed that sounds cool so uh what do you guys

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been up to this week other than video games not

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too much um i never like announced this on the

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channel or anything but i have a youtube channel

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so i work on that constantly i've just been writing

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scripts and stuff yeah doge right doge underscore

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buddha doge buddha um i'm doing another video

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on dire wimpy kid which is like a book series

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um and the first one did pretty good it was the

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second one actually that was the second has a

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lot of views yeah um but then i'm doing like

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a a video that i've never really like done anything

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similar to it's kind of silly it's a little like

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not serious kind of off topic to the channel,

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but I'm doing a video where I review every single

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Chris Hansen show or like his predator catching

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shows. So it was supposed to be an April Fool's

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thing, but I just never like really got around

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to it. So I'm finally trying to get it together

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now. That'll be interesting. Yeah. I haven't

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really been doing too much. We're pretty much

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a car family too, so I've been working on the

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Firebird. I got to get new headlight motors for

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it because one of them's dead. It won't pull

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the headlight up. Yeah, yeah. Classic. Yeah,

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it's an 85, but they're kind of a pain to find.

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Well, yeah. And they're expensive. Yep, stuff's

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getting old, man. A little over $100 for two

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of them. I don't know. Other than that, nothing

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really. No? No other video games? No TV shows

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you haven't been watching? Actually, I started

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playing Kirby. I forgot which one it was. Nightmare

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in Dreamland. I think it's for the Advance. Oh,

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okay. I haven't really played a lot of Kirby

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games. I've been trying. But it's okay so far.

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It's just pretty... just like a basic platformer

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so yeah the Kirby games are always kind of kind

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of on the easy side yeah yeah but it's nice if

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you get the achievements and stuff too so yeah

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add something to them I mean they're always fun

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but yeah there was they always seem to be like

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on the on the easy side yeah yeah can you kiss

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anybody in that game uh I don't think so this

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I think I think it started in the SNES one you

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can like give your allies like health but you're

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like you guys like kissers I don't know it's

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weird Yeah, there's no allies in this one. It's

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just you. But you get the power -ups and stuff,

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though. Like the spikes. And the stone. I think

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that's where the stone came from. Or whatever,

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from Smash. Yeah. Well, that's been in the game

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since the first one, I think. Oh, okay, yeah.

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Yeah, stone's been in there a while. Alright,

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cool. Just making my way through Super Zerk.

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Getting close to the end on that one still. Yeah.

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Then you're going to have to wait, right? Yeah,

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I'm not sure if they're going to try to finish

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up the story or what they're doing. I haven't

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read too much into it. I don't want to know what's

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going on, honestly. Yeah, I got you. And then

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as you guys know, I've been playing some Need

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for Speed Hot Pursuit 2. Yep. That's a great

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game. Yeah, it's a good throwback. Fantastic

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game. One of the best PS2 games, if you ask me.

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Need for Speedwise? For sure. Yeah. I think that's

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about it. Just playing some school, going through

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that. Yeah, nothing too much. Nothing too much

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crazy. All right. Yeah, I've just been playing

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through Shadow still, getting farther in the

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game. Starting to get into the good story parts

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of it now. Just playing through that, spending

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time in that. I think I told you I was watching

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Earthworm Jim, right? Started watching that TV

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show. Yeah. I only watched a couple episodes.

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I need to start getting back into that and knocking

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that out. But still enjoying that. It's still

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pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, I stopped watching my

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anime stuff. I need to get back into it. Yeah.

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You were watching, what, Death Note, right? Was

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that the last one you watched? That and Solo

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Leveling. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I need to check

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that out. Is there any good that Solo Leveling?

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The first season was good so far. Okay. Is it

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more like serious or is it kind of like a jokey

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one? It's not. No, it's like pretty serious.

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Okay. There's one called Konosuba. I think it

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is. It's kind of like that same idea, but I think

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it's more of like a kind of like a trope filled.

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Like I think they're making fun of all like the

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other animes basically in it. Oh, yeah. No, this

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one's pretty serious. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I just.

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i have a terrible habit of not finishing things

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yeah don't we all yep i'm not a big like watch

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tv shows and movies kind of so yeah yeah i don't

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i don't have the attention span for movies man

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as bad as it sounds it's it's only like i have

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to watch certain types of movies yeah i don't

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know like once i'm watching movie i have to watch

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the movie Yeah, you can't stop watching. Like

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starting it? Yeah. Starting to watch something,

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yeah. Or like starting a new video game or something.

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I don't know why that's so hard to do. I started

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watching Reaper again. Remember Reaper, Joe?

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Yeah. Reaper, that sounds familiar. Yeah. Was

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that the one where the girl dies or whatever?

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No, it's a show. No, that's dead like me. That's

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dead like me. It's a show where the... kid his

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parents sold to the devil and he's like a bounty

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hunter yeah i think i've seen i don't think i

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really like watched it watched it but yeah i've

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seen this part of the show i'd finish that the

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other day it's a stupid like 2007 show but yeah

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yeah it's actually it's really good i think i

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remember enjoying what i saw yeah yeah yeah it

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was good i think you're talking about dead like

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me ever seen that show um i don't think so Like,

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some young girl dies, and then when you die,

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certain people get chosen as, like, Reapers,

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and they have to go around killing people. Oh,

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okay. It's a pretty good show. Oh, okay. Kind

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of, like, similar premise. Yeah, I think so,

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yeah. Yeah, that guy that's in that, the main

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actor of that show, of the Reaper show, isn't

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there another actor that looks just like him?

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I think, Eric, we watched a show called The Loop

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or something. You remember that show, The Loop,

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that we watched? That had the guy from Whitest

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Kids You Know in it? The Loop? Yeah, it had...

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What's his name? The guy that passed away. Trevor?

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Trevor? Yeah, Trevor was in it. Do you remember

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that show? No. He's like, my moms were space

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astronauts or whatever. He had lesbian moms or

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whatever. We watched this? Yeah, you don't remember

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this show? No, dude. That was from a while ago.

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No, this wasn't Trevor. This was the other guy.

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Was it Zach? I don't think so. I'm pretty sure

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it was Trevor that was in it. No, it looks like

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it's Zach. No, that's another show. He was in

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another show called something. The Loop? Was

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that the one? What was the one that Trevor was

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in? I don't know. I don't think I've ever seen

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this before, bro. We were watching it together.

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I know we were. Because we were watching it at

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the same time that we were watching The Whitest

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Kids together. It was another skit show? No,

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it was just a regular show. Breaking In? That

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was it. I think that was it. Yes, it was this,

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yes. I don't think I remember that one either.

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No, you don't remember that one? It's actually,

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this guy was in Reaper. So it's the same guy,

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Ryan. That guy from Reaper, he was in the show

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called Breaking In. Oh, okay. That had Trevor

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Moore from the Widest Kids, you know, in it.

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He's in the loop, too. Yeah, okay. I guess it's

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the same guy, though. But there's still another...

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I know there's another actor that looks like

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him. Huh, okay. Nah, I'm not too sure. The loop

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was... I don't really know a lot of TV shows

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in that time frame. Yeah, there was a while I

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was watching... It was a little before me. I

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don't remember this at all, either. No, you don't

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remember those? Nah. From what I remember, the

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loop was pretty decent, too. This has that one

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chick in it. This is the one that Zack is in,

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the loop? Oh, I think it was Friends with Benefits.

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That was what it was. What was that other skit

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show we were watching? It was like an earlier

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one. Kids in the Hall? Yeah, I think that was

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it. Yeah, that one's pretty good. Is any of this

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going in the video? Why not? I don't know. I

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can edit it down. Okay. Well, we figured it out.

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We got it now. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can edit

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it down so it's not so long, but... Okay. Make

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sure you put, give me fuel, give me fire. No,

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it's not this episode. It's not this episode.

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Ooh! Yeah, all right. Anyway, so that's enough

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talking about why as kids you know stuff. But,

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all right, yeah. I don't even remember what started

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that. Were we talking about Reaper or something?

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Yeah. Something irrelevant. Yeah. All right,

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I think I only had one other thing. I've been

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reading, I started a book called Footfall. It's

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kind of like an 80s War of the Worlds. It's,

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like, during, like, the Cold War, and then there's,

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like, this alien ship that comes and attacks

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Earth, and it's just, like, the Americans and

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Russians kind of starting two different wars

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with these aliens and everything. I don't know.

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It was pretty good so far. It took forever to

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get started, but now that the aliens are here,

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it was, like, 100 pages before the aliens even

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showed up, and then now that they're here, it's

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getting pretty good, so. What are they? Look

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like elephants? Yeah, they look like baby elephants,

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yeah. What the hell? That sounds pretty cool,

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though. Like I said, it took forever to get started.

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The thing is, there's a view. There's the American

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part of the story. Then there's the Russian part

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of the story. Then there's also from the alien's

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perspective of the story, too. There's a lot

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going on. I'm enjoying it. That's how I felt

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about World of Worlds. That book was kind of...

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A lot slower than I thought. Yeah, it took a

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while. Yeah, it does. It has a bit of a build

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-up, too. War of the Worlds is, like, one of

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my favorite books. I love that book. It's a cool

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book. Yeah, my biggest thing with that book is

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I just didn't know, like, he keeps naming all

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these places. Yeah, well, it's in, yeah, Britain,

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so. Yeah. I don't know where any of that stuff

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is. It's like, oh, it's, like, five towns from

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this and this. Yeah. That gives me no information.

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You gotta look at it on a map, bro. I don't know.

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I ain't got time for that. You don't even want

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to read the book, so you're not going to read

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a map. Yeah, I struggled my way through that

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one. I don't know. I like that book. There was

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no pictures to look at. That's true. There's

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a picture on the front of the book. Just get

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a look at that one. Yeah. Nah. Berserk's better.

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Yeah, that's why he reads comics. Yeah, that's

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why he reads comics. Yeah, manga. Because when

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the words become too much, you can just look

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at the picture. I just look at the picture, yeah.

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Most of the time, there isn't really words. They're

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just big pictures. Yeah, that's true. All right,

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that's enough of that. Let's go ahead and move

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on over to our game now. This is Scoon. It was

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published by... uh home data and then or sorry

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it was developed by home data and then published

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by irem for the nintendo entertainment system

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in 1987 it came out in 86 in japan um and it's

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a it's just like a typical arcade shooter plays

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a little pink submarine you have to shoot aliens

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neptunians that have uh invaded and sunk all

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like the major cities in earth were you guys

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did you guys beat this game you able to complete

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it yeah yeah yeah for sure Yeah, it was a little

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tough, but it wasn't too bad. It's tough at first,

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but once you realize... Yeah. It's not too bad.

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Yeah. Once you realize that the other two buttons

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are turbo buttons, it becomes much easier. I

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don't think that's intentional. No, that's just

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retro. Oh, man. Actually, I have a discussion

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here before we get started here. Is Turbo Fire

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cheating? Because I'm pretty sure we all used

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it to beat this game. just the ice balls so you

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didn't turbo fire the missiles no i didn't do

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the missiles no just the ice balls i i mean i

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don't think it is for missiles because in the

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old nes games and arcade games anyway you have

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to wait for them to get off you can only shoot

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like three at a time anyway so yeah yeah jacob

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thoughts i i guess it all depends like i think

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it's a uh per game thing but for schoon eh not

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so much because i don't i don't think turbo really

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helps you that much in this game yeah i don't

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i don't think it's cheating either especially

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because these developers knew that those things

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existed so they absolutely could have coded the

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games to just not work with turbo stuff if they

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didn't want it to so like you said even in this

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game even though there's a turbo fire you can

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only shoot three missiles at a time so I mean,

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you can only shoot one ice ball at a time, too,

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so they obviously had an idea for the Turbo stuff.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think it's cheating.

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Yeah, for this game, definitely not. I mean,

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according to, you know, RetroArch, it isn't.

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Yeah, that's true, that's true. Yeah, that's

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true, that's a good point. All right, so, yeah,

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you play as a little pink submarine, which, to

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me, pink was kind of a weird choice for the submarine

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because, you know, at this time, This was a pretty

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young male -dominated market. I think they could

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have chose a better color than pink. I don't

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know. Yellow might have caused some... Yeah,

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I don't know. I was going to say they could have

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done yellow. Like the yellow submarine or something.

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But I don't know. Just anything other than pink.

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Well, from what... Well, I don't know. I know

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pink stands out the best. Yeah, against the blue.

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I'm sure there's reasons for it. I just think

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it's funny that it's a pink submarine. But yeah,

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you play... You're a pirate captain named Nerekin

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or something, and you're in your submarine. I

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don't know if you guys read the manual or not,

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but in the manual, you're a piece of shit. The

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world sinks. Apparently you hate humans or whatever.

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The world sinks, and the president calls you

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to save humanity, and you're like, no, I just

00:16:50.169 --> 00:16:56.289
want Grog. The president basically begs you to

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save humanity, and you're like, all right, I

00:16:58.309 --> 00:17:02.659
guess so. Yeah. It's pretty funny. I think it's

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kind of weird. I don't know if I misread the

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manual or anything, but I could have sworn the

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conversation between the president and the pirate,

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it's like, no, I don't want to do something good

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that would ruin my bad reputation. Later down

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the line, he's like, well, you'll be called a

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hero. And he's like, oh, I'll be called a hero.

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Okay, I'll do it. It kind of convinces him. Didn't

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you just say you wanted to be a villain? It's

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dumb. It's because he drank too much grog. His

00:17:33.460 --> 00:17:36.940
brain was... Yeah. Brain don't work. But yeah,

00:17:36.980 --> 00:17:39.099
so it's just a typical arcade shooter. You're

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a little submarine. You got your missiles that

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shoot straight, and then you got little ice bombs

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that shoot down, give you a down shot. And then

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you just gotta attack the aliens. It's like a

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horizontal shoot. Yeah, it gives you a horizontal

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shoot. And then even some of the enemies can

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only be killed with those shots. Yep. This game

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is... got a pretty good feel uh i like how like

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when the levels like it's all one continuous

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level there's no like loading screen or anything

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you just go from one level yeah there's no breaks

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yeah that was pretty cool i like that going yeah

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yeah that's actually a nice design and then um

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so yeah so then you also have to save humans

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that are like stuck down in these like neptunian

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Meat factories, I guess. I guess they're eating

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humans. I guess they're making man meat. I think

00:18:23.349 --> 00:18:25.650
it said man meat in there. Or no, man ham? Man

00:18:25.650 --> 00:18:27.690
ham. Man ham is what it said. Man ham. Yeah,

00:18:27.809 --> 00:18:30.250
that's funny. So they're making man ham out of

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these people. But you've got to blow up these

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factories, and then the people will, like, swim

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up. And then you've got to collect them before

00:18:35.250 --> 00:18:37.029
the stupid sharks eat people. Those sharks were

00:18:37.029 --> 00:18:40.210
annoying. Dude, yeah, the sharks were. Yeah.

00:18:40.390 --> 00:18:42.410
Yeah. I thought they were dolphins at first,

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and then I thought they were orcas. That's what

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I thought. I thought they were orcas at first.

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Yeah. And then I read the manual and they were

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like sharks. And I was like, oh, okay. I don't

00:18:50.440 --> 00:18:53.339
see that at all. But yeah, this thing has a cool,

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I like the upgrade in this because when you collect

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nine people, there's like a little ship up top

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that you like send them to. And then that's how

00:19:00.900 --> 00:19:02.240
you get the upgrades. I thought that was a pretty

00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:04.880
cool kind of unique way to do two upgrades because

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I can't think of any other game that makes you

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collect stuff before you upgrade. Usually you

00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:10.500
just get the upgrade right away when you blow

00:19:10.500 --> 00:19:12.480
something up or whatever. But I thought it was

00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:15.390
pretty cool. It took me a minute to figure that

00:19:15.390 --> 00:19:16.930
one out, too, because I didn't read the manual

00:19:16.930 --> 00:19:19.210
right away. Yeah, I didn't either. I was figuring

00:19:19.210 --> 00:19:21.589
it out. And then it took me forever to figure

00:19:21.589 --> 00:19:23.890
out the stupid fuel. So you also have a fuel

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counter. It's like 60 seconds about of fuel,

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and then it's slowly counting down all the time.

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And then you guys shoot these stupid little crabs

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that go across the screen. And then I guess you

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get treasure or something, then you buy fuel

00:19:36.730 --> 00:19:38.289
with it or something. I'm not exactly sure how

00:19:38.289 --> 00:19:41.150
it works. Yeah, I think in the game it's called

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gold. It's like a gold ore. I think that's what

00:19:43.490 --> 00:19:45.789
they called it. Buy fuel. I just put crab fuel

00:19:45.789 --> 00:19:49.690
here. Crab fuel, crab fuel. But the annoying

00:19:49.690 --> 00:19:50.930
thing about the crab, though, is that they come

00:19:50.930 --> 00:19:53.970
back. So if you shoot them in way too long to

00:19:53.970 --> 00:19:55.829
go grab it, it'll freaking kill you, and then

00:19:55.829 --> 00:19:58.369
you just lose a life there. It's so annoying.

00:19:59.060 --> 00:20:01.279
Yeah, it's a really dumb way to die. And the

00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:03.279
time frame's pretty short, too. It is, yeah.

00:20:04.099 --> 00:20:06.019
And so you have to also dodge all the enemies

00:20:06.019 --> 00:20:08.220
coming at you and everything at the same time.

00:20:08.220 --> 00:20:10.819
It's kind of a pain in the butt. I like it. I

00:20:10.819 --> 00:20:13.200
mean, it's a good idea. It definitely adds to

00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:15.200
the game. Yeah, because it would have been way

00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:17.859
too easy without it. Oh, yeah. This game would

00:20:17.859 --> 00:20:20.420
have been way too easy without that. See, no,

00:20:20.500 --> 00:20:22.900
I don't hate it. I just wish that that crab didn't

00:20:22.900 --> 00:20:24.779
come back. That would have made it... I think

00:20:24.779 --> 00:20:27.940
it would have made it better. Or maybe, you know...

00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:30.420
Just a little bit of time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:20:31.059 --> 00:20:33.980
There is also one thing that sucks. Like if you're

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all the way on the left side of the screen and

00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:38.259
you're either trying to get fuel or the power

00:20:38.259 --> 00:20:41.579
up, it'll drop to a spot where you can't get

00:20:41.579 --> 00:20:43.559
it. Yeah. You can't, you can't be right up against

00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:45.359
the screen. You have to come. I have that. Yeah.

00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:46.640
I found that out a couple of times. I was like,

00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:50.380
what the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. So when you beat a

00:20:50.380 --> 00:20:52.759
level, it just gives you a quick little respite

00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:54.220
and then you're straight into the next level,

00:20:54.259 --> 00:20:56.099
which I thought was pretty cool. And then, um,

00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:58.859
So there's eight levels, right? You beat the

00:20:58.859 --> 00:21:00.940
game. So you go through eight levels, and then

00:21:00.940 --> 00:21:04.920
there's like a short little cut, like not even

00:21:04.920 --> 00:21:06.839
a cut scene, but just a short little text thing

00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:08.400
between level seven and eight. It's like, we're

00:21:08.400 --> 00:21:11.759
not going to give up. And then you fight the

00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:13.920
Neptunians in level eight, which was super, like

00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:15.559
the easiest level. Wasn't level eight like super

00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.579
short and easy? Yeah. Yeah. Dude, the hardest

00:21:18.579 --> 00:21:20.539
level in this game, I think, is the second level.

00:21:20.660 --> 00:21:22.160
Yeah. Yeah, those stupid tough things. Yeah,

00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:24.960
it's like two or three. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that

00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:28.220
level sucks. When you beat the game, it just

00:21:28.220 --> 00:21:31.519
goes all the way back to the first level again.

00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:33.319
Then you just keep going and going and going.

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I think you're supposed to do it three times.

00:21:36.900 --> 00:21:39.339
Yeah, that's what I read online. I saw one random

00:21:39.339 --> 00:21:42.819
forum online mention that. I did it three times

00:21:42.819 --> 00:21:45.980
and it looted me the fourth. The third time,

00:21:46.059 --> 00:21:49.279
you have to destroy every factory, everything

00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:52.960
that you can destroy to technically beat the

00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:56.220
game. Even where, like, the ones where the humans

00:21:56.220 --> 00:21:59.019
are in? Yeah. Oh, okay. Like, you have to destroy

00:21:59.019 --> 00:22:01.680
everything. Because when you destroy a factory

00:22:01.680 --> 00:22:05.099
fully, the lights go out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.079
And you have to do that for every single one

00:22:07.079 --> 00:22:09.619
in the game, is what I read. Yeah, I don't know

00:22:09.619 --> 00:22:11.359
how true that is. It seems like it's a random,

00:22:11.500 --> 00:22:15.200
just, like, internet form mystery, you know,

00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:18.319
myth or whatever. There's also, like, nobody

00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:20.099
that knows what this game is, so. Yeah, well,

00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:22.680
there's that, too, yeah. Yeah. Which is surprising,

00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:24.789
man. Yeah, it's actually a pretty decent game.

00:22:24.789 --> 00:22:28.089
I'm surprised it's not more popular. I think

00:22:28.089 --> 00:22:30.910
it's just because it was not marketed right.

00:22:31.170 --> 00:22:34.789
It was from a lesser known publisher at the time.

00:22:34.890 --> 00:22:38.930
Irem at the time wasn't super big. It's also

00:22:38.930 --> 00:22:43.309
just a very odd looking game at first. That too.

00:22:43.750 --> 00:22:49.599
A pink submarine with a really weird story. Well,

00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:51.559
and then a stupid name. I mean, I'm sorry. The

00:22:51.559 --> 00:22:55.259
name is just not a good name. It's a hilarious

00:22:55.259 --> 00:22:58.799
name. Yeah. But they should have changed it to

00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.160
just, like, submarine or something. Anything.

00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:03.380
Yeah. And then changed the color. I think if

00:23:03.380 --> 00:23:05.000
they honestly did that and then changed the color

00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:06.380
of the submarine, this game probably would have

00:23:06.380 --> 00:23:09.259
been a little bit more popular. Yeah. I mean,

00:23:09.279 --> 00:23:11.079
it was still early. Everyone was still figuring

00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:15.119
stuff out at this time. Yeah. But. This is, what,

00:23:15.140 --> 00:23:18.180
two years after the NES came out? Yeah, NES is

00:23:18.180 --> 00:23:20.500
only two years old at this point. This is the

00:23:20.500 --> 00:23:23.279
earliest game we played on the podcast, right?

00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:27.480
So far, yeah. Besides the arcade stuff that we

00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:29.279
talked about. Well, yeah, you have that stuff.

00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:32.119
Yeah, for the main podcast, yep. Yeah, that was

00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:35.000
the other thing, too. So there was a few parts

00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:36.400
where, I don't know if you guys did, but I got

00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:39.019
slowdowns a couple of times in this game when

00:23:39.019 --> 00:23:40.640
there was, like, too much stuff on screen. I

00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:42.690
don't know if you guys got that. Oh, yeah. Yeah,

00:23:42.690 --> 00:23:45.509
there's a couple parts that got pretty bad. I

00:23:45.509 --> 00:23:49.230
mean, those old NES games did that anyway. Yeah,

00:23:49.430 --> 00:23:51.869
yeah. It wasn't an emulation problem. No, I don't

00:23:51.869 --> 00:23:55.009
think so. But they actually had quite a few enemies

00:23:55.009 --> 00:23:56.529
on the screen at the time. Probably like almost

00:23:56.529 --> 00:24:00.970
15, 16 or so at a time. That's quite a few. Especially

00:24:00.970 --> 00:24:08.509
when you got all those dudes start swimming.

00:24:08.630 --> 00:24:12.809
Yeah, you got the guys swimming. You got the

00:24:12.809 --> 00:24:15.089
factory, because all the stuff moves in the factories,

00:24:15.250 --> 00:24:17.529
and all the enemies, and then you got the ship

00:24:17.529 --> 00:24:20.569
on top, and then all the humans. Yeah, and then

00:24:20.569 --> 00:24:22.170
level two, you got all those little tiny guys

00:24:22.170 --> 00:24:23.930
with the big guys coming at you at the same time.

00:24:23.990 --> 00:24:29.349
Yeah. Yeah, dude, it runs pretty rough. The slowdowns

00:24:29.349 --> 00:24:31.609
don't really bother me that much, though. No,

00:24:31.750 --> 00:24:33.130
I mean, it's not a big deal. It's only a couple

00:24:33.130 --> 00:24:36.230
parts. It's not a big deal, no. Yeah, because

00:24:36.230 --> 00:24:38.970
it's not like internet lag. If the whole game

00:24:38.970 --> 00:24:41.769
slows down, then... Honestly, it's kind of to

00:24:41.769 --> 00:24:45.730
your advantage at that point. Yeah. You're able

00:24:45.730 --> 00:24:48.970
to shoot them a little bit better. Speaking of

00:24:48.970 --> 00:24:51.569
that, the title screen on this game is one of

00:24:51.569 --> 00:24:53.930
the most frantic and hectic title screens I've

00:24:53.930 --> 00:24:57.309
ever seen in a video game. There's so much going

00:24:57.309 --> 00:24:59.009
on on that title screen. I've never seen a game

00:24:59.009 --> 00:25:01.319
like that before. I do like it, though. I mean,

00:25:01.319 --> 00:25:04.019
it does represent what's going on. The first

00:25:04.019 --> 00:25:05.660
time I started up, and it was just like all that

00:25:05.660 --> 00:25:07.819
stuff, and I was like, what is going on right

00:25:07.819 --> 00:25:10.420
now? It's just all the flashing lights. Yeah,

00:25:10.420 --> 00:25:11.920
just flashing lights. On a black background.

00:25:12.220 --> 00:25:15.220
Humans, like, sprites flying everywhere. Yeah,

00:25:15.259 --> 00:25:16.619
it was pretty funny. With the mermaid chick.

00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:19.420
Yeah. The mermaids with rosaries, dude. Yeah,

00:25:19.420 --> 00:25:22.839
yep, yep. It's just such an odd game. It is,

00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:26.660
yep. It really is, but it's... I really enjoyed

00:25:26.660 --> 00:25:28.640
this game. I didn't at first, because I was like,

00:25:28.660 --> 00:25:31.230
dude, this... This game's just hard for no reason.

00:25:31.329 --> 00:25:34.970
I'm just dying for stupid reasons. And then I

00:25:34.970 --> 00:25:37.690
got used to it. It was actually pretty fun. It's

00:25:37.690 --> 00:25:42.009
every shooter, man. Every shmup is just... It's

00:25:42.009 --> 00:25:44.829
always like that until you start learning patterns

00:25:44.829 --> 00:25:47.690
and levels. It's always going to be that way.

00:25:47.890 --> 00:25:51.170
For me, my problem was once I realized that getting

00:25:51.170 --> 00:25:53.789
power -ups also gave you fuel, you didn't have

00:25:53.789 --> 00:25:55.430
to worry about the crabs so much. The game got

00:25:55.430 --> 00:25:59.269
so much easier. Yep. That was my biggest problem.

00:25:59.990 --> 00:26:02.390
When you get the last power -up, too, you move

00:26:02.390 --> 00:26:04.849
faster. Yeah, you get speed on each one a little

00:26:04.849 --> 00:26:08.250
bit, yep. I think it's just the first power -up.

00:26:08.349 --> 00:26:11.369
I don't think, like, if the last one makes it

00:26:11.369 --> 00:26:15.349
faster than the first one. Oh, okay. Yeah, I

00:26:15.349 --> 00:26:17.549
just know that at that point you are a little

00:26:17.549 --> 00:26:20.450
bit faster. Which, yeah, there's two power -ups.

00:26:20.490 --> 00:26:21.950
So you have, like, a regular submarine missile,

00:26:22.029 --> 00:26:24.150
and then when you collect nine people, you get,

00:26:24.150 --> 00:26:26.980
like, a fiery. shot like a fire missile that

00:26:26.980 --> 00:26:29.799
goes through enemies and then you get a third

00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:31.779
one after another nine people that is like a

00:26:31.779 --> 00:26:35.160
triple shot which uh was still i mean you could

00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:36.859
still die the enemies could still get through

00:26:36.859 --> 00:26:38.619
that triple shot so it wasn't that great i did

00:26:38.619 --> 00:26:41.500
not like the triple shot i thought the first

00:26:41.500 --> 00:26:45.240
upgrade was better the fire shot yeah it's more

00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:49.319
it has more control for sure yeah yeah it also

00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:52.180
like depended on what level you're on too True.

00:26:52.299 --> 00:26:55.880
And I felt like it shot a lot faster too. Oh

00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:58.000
yeah, the second one for sure. Yeah, the second

00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:02.279
missiles were fast. Yeah. So the split shot,

00:27:02.380 --> 00:27:05.140
it's too slow and there's like no control with

00:27:05.140 --> 00:27:09.559
it. Especially since most of the enemies in this

00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:12.259
game come out in a line. Yeah, there's nothing.

00:27:12.819 --> 00:27:15.579
I don't know. Most of them are really fast. So

00:27:15.579 --> 00:27:18.619
if you miss, they're already three quarters across

00:27:18.619 --> 00:27:21.579
the screen. True, yeah. So that's the thing,

00:27:21.579 --> 00:27:24.759
they, like, appear halfway on the screen. Those

00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:27.500
first enemies kept screwing me up when the stupid,

00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:31.779
like, this syndrical attack pattern they had

00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:34.380
or whatever, man, that kept messing me up. Oh,

00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.440
yeah. Those red guys or whatever. Yeah, yeah.

00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:40.000
Good thing I was playing a lot of Galaga before

00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.700
I played this game. They don't attack like that,

00:27:42.779 --> 00:27:46.440
though, do they? I mean, I guess so. Turn it

00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:49.160
90 degrees or whatever, yeah. I don't know. I

00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:51.660
feel like it helped. I mean, I guess it's not

00:27:51.660 --> 00:27:53.539
a big deal, though, because this game throws

00:27:53.539 --> 00:27:57.160
one -ups at you, bro. There are so many. Like,

00:27:57.160 --> 00:27:59.160
within the first minute of the game, you can

00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:03.180
get five extra guys, like, right away. It's crazy

00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:06.019
how many secrets are in this game. Yeah, dude,

00:28:06.099 --> 00:28:08.859
there's a lot. Yeah. You get that little sea

00:28:08.859 --> 00:28:11.019
slug that you can hit one. So if you hit him

00:28:11.019 --> 00:28:12.900
ten times, there's a little sea slug at the beginning

00:28:12.900 --> 00:28:14.579
of every level that just kind of scoots along

00:28:14.579 --> 00:28:17.140
the screen. And if you shoot him ten times, he

00:28:17.140 --> 00:28:19.579
turns into a rosary, which gives you a one -up.

00:28:19.980 --> 00:28:21.779
But if you hit it again, he turns back to the

00:28:21.779 --> 00:28:23.119
sea slug. And then I think if you hit him another

00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.980
20 times, he turns into the rosary again. But

00:28:25.980 --> 00:28:30.240
this time it'll give you three one -ups. I'm

00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:32.380
wondering if you're good enough, if you can hit

00:28:32.380 --> 00:28:34.660
it again and get like five. I wonder if it keeps

00:28:34.660 --> 00:28:38.400
stacking. I don't think it does. No? No, I think

00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.819
after the second one it stops. Yeah. Yes, then

00:28:41.819 --> 00:28:44.160
you got that. Then there's also a secret. There's

00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:47.519
also like a hidden secret one up in every beginning

00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:49.559
area. Every beginning area shows like the city

00:28:49.559 --> 00:28:51.619
that you're fighting for. And then each one of

00:28:51.619 --> 00:28:53.819
those has like a secret one up in them somewhere.

00:28:54.859 --> 00:28:56.759
Some of them I couldn't find. Yeah, there were

00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:58.200
a couple I couldn't find, but I bet you they're

00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.539
in there somewhere. Some of them are tough to

00:29:00.539 --> 00:29:03.720
find. Because you have to like hit certain spots

00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.180
and then it'll show up. Yeah. Yeah, like the

00:29:07.180 --> 00:29:09.500
second level you have to hit like the top most

00:29:09.500 --> 00:29:11.730
part of the... mountain or whatever mountain

00:29:11.730 --> 00:29:16.950
peak and then it spawns the panda yeah but yeah

00:29:16.950 --> 00:29:20.170
there's even like secret levels in here too yeah

00:29:20.170 --> 00:29:24.990
um i think on like the third level if you destroy

00:29:24.990 --> 00:29:27.549
i don't know which one it was but if you like

00:29:27.549 --> 00:29:30.829
destroy a certain factory or like a certain amount

00:29:30.829 --> 00:29:34.470
it'll turn like the whole background black yeah

00:29:34.470 --> 00:29:37.329
so and then and then you won't lose fuel yep

00:29:37.329 --> 00:29:39.859
so what you have to do You have to get the rosary

00:29:39.859 --> 00:29:41.900
from the sea slug and then destroy a factory

00:29:41.900 --> 00:29:43.720
without getting hit. That's what you have to

00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:46.920
do. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's how you go. And then

00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:48.859
it says in the manual, it says you go to another

00:29:48.859 --> 00:29:50.880
dimension. But yeah, it turns the whole screen

00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:54.539
black. And then, yeah, you don't lose any fuel

00:29:54.539 --> 00:29:56.359
in that time while you're in there. But it doesn't

00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:58.519
last too long. Like 10, 15 seconds, I think it

00:29:58.519 --> 00:30:01.539
was. I think it lasts towards the end of the

00:30:01.539 --> 00:30:03.099
level. Oh, does it? Okay, maybe it was a little

00:30:03.099 --> 00:30:05.119
bit longer. I think... It's a little bit longer.

00:30:05.899 --> 00:30:08.839
Maybe maybe like 60 seconds. Okay, maybe I think

00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:10.740
it just might have been on what factory you destroy

00:30:10.740 --> 00:30:14.599
Yeah, I might have been in there. So yeah, yeah

00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.319
Yeah, I did it once like what the heck I thought

00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:20.619
this game had messed up the first time I did

00:30:20.619 --> 00:30:26.220
it And then if you do it again in the later levels

00:30:26.220 --> 00:30:29.440
turns like green and like yeah different colors

00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:32.220
I think one of them was like a weird like orange

00:30:32.220 --> 00:30:34.839
color really weird yeah yeah but yeah that's

00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:37.559
the cool thing about this game too i mean like

00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.779
the levels repeat um yes because i think what

00:30:41.779 --> 00:30:44.200
like the first four levels are all different

00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.039
and then the last four levels are pretty much

00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:51.039
all the same like level five is level one level

00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:54.319
six is level two yeah so one two and three and

00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.599
then there's four and then five six and seven

00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:00.190
are one two and three again And then eight is

00:31:00.190 --> 00:31:02.410
a different level. So four and eight are unique,

00:31:02.490 --> 00:31:04.369
but then one, two, three, and four, five, and

00:31:04.369 --> 00:31:08.230
six are repeats. Okay, yeah. With different colored

00:31:08.230 --> 00:31:10.190
enemies. Yeah, they just change the palettes.

00:31:10.190 --> 00:31:13.410
And then the water changes to like a deeper blue.

00:31:13.829 --> 00:31:17.299
Yep. Like a nighttime almost. Yeah. And then

00:31:17.299 --> 00:31:20.339
if you beat the game, you can start over again.

00:31:20.420 --> 00:31:22.259
It'll just go all the way back to the beginning

00:31:22.259 --> 00:31:25.460
of the game, and then it does not change the

00:31:25.460 --> 00:31:26.940
colors, but then it does a couple of palette

00:31:26.940 --> 00:31:29.700
swaps, like the sea slug turns into that little

00:31:29.700 --> 00:31:32.559
ghost boy or whatever he is. A little smiley

00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.619
face. Oh, yeah, a little smiley face thing, yeah.

00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:38.559
That was such a weird thing to change. It is

00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.799
one random thing. Yeah, they didn't really change

00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:42.680
much else, right? Was there different colors

00:31:42.680 --> 00:31:44.039
on the second run through? I can't remember.

00:31:46.460 --> 00:31:50.460
I'm not too sure. I don't know if it changed

00:31:50.460 --> 00:31:53.160
the watercolor or not. It changed the color of

00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:54.319
the enemies, but I don't think it changed the

00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:57.440
color of the backgrounds. Oh, okay. If I remember

00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:00.160
right. I know the second half of the levels changes

00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.880
the watercolor. Makes it look like it's a deeper

00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:09.039
water. This game's just... I don't know, man.

00:32:09.059 --> 00:32:11.900
It's just so weird. Such a weird shooter game.

00:32:12.740 --> 00:32:15.799
Yeah, they were trying to make it... unique i

00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.740
guess by making a submarine game but then they

00:32:17.740 --> 00:32:20.099
still went like way alien with it like it still

00:32:20.099 --> 00:32:23.359
had aliens yeah spaceship aliens so yeah yeah

00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:27.279
just i don't know just like cucumbers the sea

00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.279
cucumbers they changed like rosaries mermaids

00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.920
had rosaries yeah fight mermaids in this game

00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:35.440
yeah well apparently that was like a sea goddess

00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:40.609
neptune or whatever and The Neptunians took over

00:32:40.609 --> 00:32:44.890
or something. I read that. It was weird. I think

00:32:44.890 --> 00:32:48.910
Emmanuel said the mermaids are good guys too

00:32:48.910 --> 00:32:53.609
though. I don't know. They're just taking over

00:32:53.609 --> 00:32:56.130
so what do you do? Kill them or not? Yeah, exactly.

00:32:56.609 --> 00:32:58.910
But if you get hit by them you die anyway so

00:32:58.910 --> 00:33:03.190
might as well kill them. I don't know. It's got

00:33:03.190 --> 00:33:06.289
a good charm to it. Which is weird because they're

00:33:06.289 --> 00:33:09.839
carrying a rosary so My instinct was like, oh,

00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:12.039
if I grab that... Yeah, you're going to get an

00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:13.799
extra life. I'll get an extra life. No, it just

00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:18.119
kills you. Yeah, I'm not sure why they did that.

00:33:18.740 --> 00:33:22.180
But it's just very out there. It definitely sticks

00:33:22.180 --> 00:33:24.180
out compared to a lot of the other shooters at

00:33:24.180 --> 00:33:28.859
the time, for sure. For sure. I think the first

00:33:28.859 --> 00:33:31.279
thing, if you see a pink submarine on the box,

00:33:31.380 --> 00:33:34.839
it's pretty self -explanatory. The game's going

00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.779
to be a little different. Yeah. Well, the first

00:33:36.779 --> 00:33:38.859
thing would be, I don't want to play as a pink

00:33:38.859 --> 00:33:42.180
submarine. I want to play as Mario. Yeah. Yeah.

00:33:42.740 --> 00:33:44.380
And I don't want to play a game called Schoon.

00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.880
Yeah. What the hell is a Schoon anyway? The Schoon

00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:52.400
Squad Pod. We're now the Schoon Squad pod. That's

00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.640
what this is. We are the top three schooners.

00:33:55.700 --> 00:33:57.400
Yeah, we are the top three schooners on the website.

00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:59.759
Even if it wasn't broken, I think we'd still

00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.000
be the top three schooners. Oh, yeah. I would

00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.119
be number one if it wasn't broken. No, you wouldn't.

00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:09.260
I'm number one. I got proof. I have proof right

00:34:09.260 --> 00:34:11.380
here. I made it to like 1 .2 million and then

00:34:11.380 --> 00:34:15.719
I just gave up. Yeah, I hit 1 .68. I probably

00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:17.300
could have made it to two if I wanted to, but

00:34:17.300 --> 00:34:20.710
I didn't. Yeah, once I hit that, I was like,

00:34:20.789 --> 00:34:22.869
dude, I can't play this game anymore. Because

00:34:22.869 --> 00:34:24.730
it's just the same thing over and over. It is,

00:34:24.730 --> 00:34:27.070
yeah. Like, the first two runs are pretty fun,

00:34:27.250 --> 00:34:29.070
but after that, it's just the same thing. And

00:34:29.070 --> 00:34:32.269
some of those levels are kind of long, man. Yeah,

00:34:32.329 --> 00:34:35.809
some of them do take a while. But that was the

00:34:35.809 --> 00:34:39.550
only thing I... I wouldn't say... I mean, I guess

00:34:39.550 --> 00:34:41.230
I hate it about this game. It's like, if you

00:34:41.230 --> 00:34:44.429
die and it's game over, oh my god, it takes so

00:34:44.429 --> 00:34:47.869
long to get back into the game. It takes so long.

00:34:48.250 --> 00:34:50.869
Even if it was easy and you get the game down,

00:34:51.449 --> 00:34:54.230
oh, dude, it just takes so long. Yeah, you have

00:34:54.230 --> 00:34:56.889
to go through everything. You can't speed anything

00:34:56.889 --> 00:35:00.469
up. It's one consistent speed. Yeah, true. There's

00:35:00.469 --> 00:35:05.440
no moving things along faster. Nope. i was having

00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.699
so much fun playing this game just because we

00:35:07.699 --> 00:35:10.579
were texting each other like oh yeah yeah with

00:35:10.579 --> 00:35:14.119
the scores and everything yeah dude this was

00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:16.280
so fun i was having a blast with this i thought

00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:18.179
this game was awesome yeah i mean that's dude

00:35:18.179 --> 00:35:19.900
that's great to hear because that's exactly what

00:35:19.900 --> 00:35:22.320
i wanted this podcast to be so yeah i'm glad

00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.039
it's working that's that's awesome to hear this

00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.099
game was so much better than the last game i

00:35:28.099 --> 00:35:35.170
i agree i had so much This game was so much fun.

00:35:35.250 --> 00:35:36.750
No, I'm just saying, I was having a lot of fun,

00:35:36.769 --> 00:35:39.190
man. I was just like, like I said, just going

00:35:39.190 --> 00:35:41.469
back and forth with each other, like the scoreboards.

00:35:42.269 --> 00:35:45.230
Oh, man. Like I said, that's what I wanted with

00:35:45.230 --> 00:35:47.250
this podcast, so I'm glad it's doing that. I

00:35:47.250 --> 00:35:50.269
wanted that old school, like, you know, in the

00:35:50.269 --> 00:35:53.090
schoolyard, like, oh, I made it to 1 .6 million

00:35:53.090 --> 00:35:55.849
last night, you know. Yeah, yeah. We got that,

00:35:55.849 --> 00:35:58.349
so that's cool. I'm glad to hear that. And I

00:35:58.349 --> 00:35:59.789
don't believe him. I still don't believe him.

00:35:59.829 --> 00:36:02.329
Yeah. I literally sent you a picture in the review

00:36:02.329 --> 00:36:04.690
chat. I don't think I remember that. It's in

00:36:04.690 --> 00:36:06.730
there. It's Photoshop. You can believe it all

00:36:06.730 --> 00:36:10.630
you want. It's AI. Dude, dude, I couldn't even

00:36:10.630 --> 00:36:13.550
tell you how pissed off I was. When it didn't

00:36:13.550 --> 00:36:16.650
post? When it didn't post on the high score.

00:36:16.889 --> 00:36:19.030
Because I was like, dude, Joe and Eric can never

00:36:19.030 --> 00:36:21.349
be in this high score. We all knew it was going

00:36:21.349 --> 00:36:22.929
to happen, bro. Come on, we all knew it was going

00:36:22.929 --> 00:36:26.110
to happen. And then I refreshed RetroArch like

00:36:26.110 --> 00:36:28.070
two times. I was like, there's no way it doesn't

00:36:28.070 --> 00:36:32.639
go above a million. And it never did. The king

00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.780
can't be dethroned, man. I'm sorry. I was up

00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:37.260
to like 3 o 'clock playing that game. I know.

00:36:37.300 --> 00:36:39.800
I was like, do I want to take the time to get

00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.239
exactly to 999 ,000 or whatever it was and then

00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:45.860
die immediately? I was like, no. I was thinking

00:36:45.860 --> 00:36:49.219
the same thing. I know you guys were. Because

00:36:49.219 --> 00:36:51.260
nobody's beating that. No, they can't. It's the

00:36:51.260 --> 00:36:54.699
high score. Such a disappointment. But it had

00:36:54.699 --> 00:36:56.400
nothing to do with the game. It's just stupid

00:36:56.400 --> 00:37:00.880
retro art. I mean, you can do easily probably

00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:05.780
second or third level. Yeah. But it made so much

00:37:05.780 --> 00:37:07.880
sense because there was like eight people that

00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.099
mastered this game. I was like, how do they do

00:37:10.099 --> 00:37:13.719
that? We're the top three people with the highest

00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:18.420
scores. Yeah. Well, what I don't understand is

00:37:18.420 --> 00:37:21.460
more people have the beat phase eight again than

00:37:21.460 --> 00:37:24.039
beat phase seven again. How is that even possible?

00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:28.050
I have no idea. It's not working, I guess. It's

00:37:28.050 --> 00:37:30.789
not working, right? Yeah, I don't know. Those

00:37:30.789 --> 00:37:33.550
are questions. They didn't get the dinosaur achievements.

00:37:33.550 --> 00:37:34.929
Yeah, they didn't get the dinosaur achievements,

00:37:35.030 --> 00:37:37.949
the Plessy or whatever it was. Only 11 people

00:37:37.949 --> 00:37:41.230
have mastered this game. Wow. Yep. That's only

00:37:41.230 --> 00:37:44.030
11 people in the schooners world. And we're three

00:37:44.030 --> 00:37:47.250
of them. Yep. We're the three highest scorers.

00:37:47.250 --> 00:37:49.070
We're the top three schooners, bro. Yeah, heck

00:37:49.070 --> 00:37:51.469
yeah, brother. Jacob, did you fall asleep over

00:37:51.469 --> 00:37:54.619
there? What did you think of this game? I liked

00:37:54.619 --> 00:37:58.159
it. It's fairly simple fun, but there is certain

00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:02.519
complex things that you'll learn as you play

00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.400
the game. So I definitely had fun with it. I

00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:08.559
think at a certain point, though, I just kind

00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.039
of had to stop. I mean, I know it's an arcade

00:38:11.039 --> 00:38:14.519
shooter, but after like an hour or so, I was

00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:18.280
like, okay, I kind of need to stop playing. Yeah,

00:38:18.460 --> 00:38:23.440
I went through both worlds or whatever. I just

00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:25.360
want to ask you a question. I'll give you a question.

00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:27.460
When you looked at the submarine, did you see,

00:38:27.500 --> 00:38:29.500
like, a face? Because, like, the windows were,

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:33.000
like, the eyes. Yeah, a little smirk. Yeah. I

00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.780
saw a scowl, but I guess I could see it. Yeah,

00:38:35.780 --> 00:38:38.679
I definitely seen it, yeah. I just saw the orcas.

00:38:38.820 --> 00:38:42.980
That's all I saw. Sharks, bro. Sharks. Sharks.

00:38:44.260 --> 00:38:46.019
That's another thing I don't understand, too,

00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:48.480
is, like, they're clearly orcas. Yeah, those

00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:52.510
are orcas. Like, there's nothing else. But for

00:38:52.510 --> 00:38:54.570
whatever reason, they called them sharks. That

00:38:54.570 --> 00:38:56.730
could have been a miscommunication or something

00:38:56.730 --> 00:38:59.389
between the art department. Yeah, or a translation

00:38:59.389 --> 00:39:04.349
thing, too. I don't know. Could be. But, I mean,

00:39:04.369 --> 00:39:06.550
this game was published by American people in

00:39:06.550 --> 00:39:09.110
America, so I don't know. Oh, bro, that didn't

00:39:09.110 --> 00:39:10.929
mean nothing in the 80s. That didn't mean a damn

00:39:10.929 --> 00:39:14.329
thing. I guess not. It was probably worse. Yeah,

00:39:14.329 --> 00:39:16.889
that's probably even a worse thing. Yeah, probably.

00:39:18.329 --> 00:39:21.630
Yeah. All right, so. Let's talk the look of this

00:39:21.630 --> 00:39:24.969
game. This is a pretty boring looking game. Yeah.

00:39:25.170 --> 00:39:29.909
There's really nothing. It's pretty basic. Beyond

00:39:29.909 --> 00:39:33.389
simple. This is basic bitch graphics for sure.

00:39:36.090 --> 00:39:38.909
Like there's no background. There's just a blue

00:39:38.909 --> 00:39:44.489
background. You get like one city graphic at

00:39:44.489 --> 00:39:46.190
the beginning of each level and then it's just

00:39:46.190 --> 00:39:48.909
the enemies from there on out. And the factories.

00:39:49.469 --> 00:39:50.829
Oh, that's true. Those are the factories, yeah.

00:39:51.329 --> 00:39:54.929
Like the little pumping things or whatever. Yeah,

00:39:54.929 --> 00:39:57.969
parts of the factory moving around, yeah. But

00:39:57.969 --> 00:40:00.269
yeah, there's really not... Yeah, you got the

00:40:00.269 --> 00:40:03.329
crab, though. Crab people. Crab look good. Yeah,

00:40:03.369 --> 00:40:05.469
I mean, the enemies got some cool designs and

00:40:05.469 --> 00:40:08.329
stuff to them. Just wouldn't it be nice to have

00:40:08.329 --> 00:40:10.710
things like, I don't know, maybe like coral on

00:40:10.710 --> 00:40:12.750
the bottom, seaweed in the background. Something,

00:40:12.769 --> 00:40:15.110
anything, I know, right? Yeah, just small things.

00:40:15.429 --> 00:40:17.880
Just some bubbles. Even just bubbles. Yeah, there

00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:22.380
you go. Anything. It's literally just a smathering

00:40:22.380 --> 00:40:24.900
of blue, and that's it. That's all you get. I

00:40:24.900 --> 00:40:26.960
don't think the game can handle it, bro. That's

00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:29.420
true. There was a lot of slowdown. It would make

00:40:29.420 --> 00:40:33.320
it even worse. I honestly think they just threw

00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:34.739
this game together quick. I think this is one

00:40:34.739 --> 00:40:37.300
of their first games they did, so that's probably

00:40:37.300 --> 00:40:40.280
why. Yeah, I mean, it's not like an ugly game.

00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:43.199
Surprisingly, the pink with the blue and everything,

00:40:43.260 --> 00:40:45.619
it actually works pretty good. I wouldn't say

00:40:45.619 --> 00:40:48.219
it's an ugly game, but it's just very basic.

00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:53.099
Not much to look at, I guess. For sure. The title

00:40:53.099 --> 00:40:55.079
screen's got more going on than the whole game.

00:40:55.079 --> 00:40:58.460
Yeah, the title screen's the most animated thing

00:40:58.460 --> 00:41:00.559
there. That's the only other thing I would say,

00:41:00.579 --> 00:41:04.099
too, is that the enemy sprites are very static.

00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:06.199
A couple of them move around and stuff, but most

00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:09.199
of them are just a static sprite that moves across

00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.199
the screen. Yeah, it's a very basic -looking

00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:16.800
game. Yeah. Yeah, and then the sound, again,

00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:18.539
not too much here. I think there was about one

00:41:18.539 --> 00:41:21.280
song. There was like one main theme, and then

00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:25.099
each level had its own little intro, and then

00:41:25.099 --> 00:41:28.219
I think that was it, right? Yeah, I think so.

00:41:28.380 --> 00:41:30.679
I think there was also the pause menu had music,

00:41:30.780 --> 00:41:33.760
and then there was like a little boss theme before

00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:36.960
the final little factory at the end of each level.

00:41:37.739 --> 00:41:40.639
It was a decent track. Nothing to write home

00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:44.199
about, but it was fine. Yeah. It did it served

00:41:44.199 --> 00:41:47.380
its purpose. Yeah, for sure. Yep. Yep. And it

00:41:47.380 --> 00:41:48.980
had pause menu music, which I don't think a lot

00:41:48.980 --> 00:41:50.940
of games back then had that stuff. So that was

00:41:50.940 --> 00:41:54.420
pretty cool. Oh, yeah. I'm surprised I was even

00:41:54.420 --> 00:41:58.219
able to pause the game. Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah.

00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.400
I didn't think this game would have a pause.

00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.360
And then it was actually the start button. Some

00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.320
of those some of those old games had some wild

00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:08.929
control schemes. All right. We'll go ahead and

00:42:08.929 --> 00:42:11.369
jump over to the achievements then. So what did

00:42:11.369 --> 00:42:14.530
you guys think of this achievement list? Simple,

00:42:14.650 --> 00:42:17.869
straightforward. Yeah. I mean, they match the

00:42:17.869 --> 00:42:22.889
game. Yeah. Simple, basic, but... I mean, beating

00:42:22.889 --> 00:42:27.090
the game is a little tough, but... Yeah, I think

00:42:27.090 --> 00:42:28.469
this is probably one of the easiest. This is

00:42:28.469 --> 00:42:30.030
probably the easiest one we've done so far, I

00:42:30.030 --> 00:42:33.750
think. For sure, yeah. It's also probably the

00:42:33.750 --> 00:42:36.130
most basic game we've played. Yeah, true, true.

00:42:36.489 --> 00:42:38.630
We just have to... You have to beat the game

00:42:38.630 --> 00:42:40.489
twice, and then there's a couple ones about collecting

00:42:40.489 --> 00:42:43.090
so many people and then getting all the upgrades,

00:42:43.250 --> 00:42:45.570
I think, and then I think that's it. Yep. Yeah.

00:42:45.650 --> 00:42:47.309
Mostly just make it through the game, that's

00:42:47.309 --> 00:42:49.050
all. Yeah. Yeah. It would have been cool if they

00:42:49.050 --> 00:42:51.090
had, like, find all the extra 1 -ups and stuff,

00:42:51.130 --> 00:42:53.369
too. Find, like, the secret 1 -ups. Yeah, that's

00:42:53.369 --> 00:42:56.070
true. Like, the secret level and stuff. Yeah,

00:42:56.110 --> 00:42:57.510
doing all that stuff. I'm not sure why they didn't

00:42:57.510 --> 00:43:00.050
do those ones. Yeah, I know. There's, like, no

00:43:00.050 --> 00:43:02.570
score. There's no... Yeah, there's no score ones.

00:43:02.670 --> 00:43:05.070
Nothing like that, yeah. Well, the score doesn't

00:43:05.070 --> 00:43:10.480
even work, so... Don't make it through the levels

00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.400
without dying. Like the typical achievement stuff.

00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.559
Yeah, this one's a little too simple. I don't

00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:18.739
even have that. Honestly, I don't think this

00:43:18.739 --> 00:43:22.179
game needed that. I don't know. In my opinion,

00:43:22.300 --> 00:43:27.179
it's a very simple, basic game. And I don't know.

00:43:27.219 --> 00:43:28.900
I think adding achievements like that kind of

00:43:28.900 --> 00:43:31.840
just would ruin it. In my opinion. I don't know.

00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:34.260
Because there's really nothing to this game.

00:43:34.380 --> 00:43:36.519
There really isn't. Yeah, it's straightforward.

00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.579
I mean, to add, like, arbitrary achievements

00:43:39.579 --> 00:43:43.559
just to make it harder, eh. I don't know. I just

00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:45.019
thought it would be cool to have, like, the other

00:43:45.019 --> 00:43:46.599
dimension one would have been cool. Just because,

00:43:46.820 --> 00:43:48.739
like, most people may have not even really existed

00:43:48.739 --> 00:43:49.980
to, like, see that. That would have been cool.

00:43:49.980 --> 00:43:52.139
Like, the hidden stuff? Yeah, I agree. Yeah,

00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.179
it would have been cool to see those, but, yeah.

00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:57.800
Or get, like, the rosaries from the... Right,

00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:00.960
from the sea slug. Sea slugs, yeah. Not cucumber,

00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.539
sea slug. It's a cucumber, bro. No, no, no. Yeah,

00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.800
they're not orcas. They're sharks. Yeah, they're

00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.880
sharks. I don't care what the manual says. You

00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:15.400
got to go by the manual, bro. But, yeah, I mean,

00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:19.400
it's a fine set. Yeah, it's not a bad one. It's

00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.159
just very simple, but I enjoyed it. You guys,

00:44:21.179 --> 00:44:22.860
everyone mastered it, right? I think we all mastered

00:44:22.860 --> 00:44:26.880
it. Yeah, we did. Jacob, you don't do achievements,

00:44:26.900 --> 00:44:31.360
so. Uh -uh. He can't. Too difficult. I just don't

00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.760
care. He's too good for him. Yeah. No, he uses

00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.639
the random. He doesn't use Retro Orc, which I

00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:40.239
don't blame him. Yeah, not really too much. I

00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.380
think you just beat the game twice and then do

00:44:42.380 --> 00:44:43.820
a couple other random stuff and you're good to

00:44:43.820 --> 00:44:46.199
go. But yeah, like I said, the game itself is

00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.480
challenging, but it's not too bad. So I don't

00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:50.820
think it's too bad. No, it's not impossible.

00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:53.880
Yeah. Just put a little bit of time into it and

00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.429
then, you know. Yeah, I think other than... maybe

00:44:57.429 --> 00:44:59.050
other than like Donkey Kong, this is probably

00:44:59.050 --> 00:45:00.489
the easiest one we've done. I don't know if Donkey

00:45:00.489 --> 00:45:04.590
Kong is easier now, but, uh, Donkey Kong had

00:45:04.590 --> 00:45:06.769
a little, little different, a little bit of difficulty.

00:45:06.769 --> 00:45:08.349
Yeah, I guess so. So it's probably the easiest

00:45:08.349 --> 00:45:11.210
one we've done so far. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

00:45:29.550 --> 00:45:31.590
All right, so let's get to the end of the Schoon

00:45:31.590 --> 00:45:34.230
Squad pod here. Let's go over the reviews for,

00:45:34.329 --> 00:45:37.469
or let's get to the reviews for Schoon here.

00:45:38.150 --> 00:45:40.190
Just a quick explanation. We're just doing a

00:45:40.190 --> 00:45:42.849
quick, did you enjoy the game? And would you

00:45:42.849 --> 00:45:46.550
recommend the game? So we'll go ahead and throw

00:45:46.550 --> 00:45:48.150
it over to you guys. Who wants to go first? Who,

00:45:48.230 --> 00:45:51.929
did you guys enjoy this game? Yeah, this game

00:45:51.929 --> 00:45:55.110
is definitely enjoyable. It's simple, but it's

00:45:55.110 --> 00:45:58.530
enjoyable. Sometimes that's the best. Straightforward.

00:46:00.179 --> 00:46:03.579
Yeah. I don't disagree. I think it's a simple

00:46:03.579 --> 00:46:05.619
game, but that doesn't make it bad. It's just

00:46:05.619 --> 00:46:08.260
a fun thing to sit down. Video games are just

00:46:08.260 --> 00:46:09.920
time wasters anyway. That's what they're made

00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:13.099
for. I think this fills that role. It does a

00:46:13.099 --> 00:46:15.719
pretty good job at it. Is it the best shooter

00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:17.579
on the NES? No, but I think it's still a pretty

00:46:17.579 --> 00:46:21.659
good one. It's kind of sad to see that it's as

00:46:21.659 --> 00:46:26.539
unknown as it is. Especially with how popular

00:46:26.539 --> 00:46:29.699
In the Hunt is. I can't believe this. I was going

00:46:29.699 --> 00:46:31.400
to ask you that because I don't think Jacob and

00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:33.480
Ryan, you played in the hunt, but do you feel

00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:37.920
like this, can you like see the like inspiration

00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:41.159
for in the hunt in this game? A little bit. I

00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.239
mean, it's, it's kind of there, but nothing crazy.

00:46:44.739 --> 00:46:46.400
Yeah. I don't really see too much. I mean, just

00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:50.440
other than it's, I can actually, the, the ice

00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:52.960
bombs kind of look like those bombs in the, in

00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:54.699
the, in the hunt. They have a similar design

00:46:54.699 --> 00:46:57.519
to them. Cause you get those. But other than

00:46:57.519 --> 00:46:59.519
that, there's not too much similarity. No, because

00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:00.900
there's no aliens or anything. I don't think

00:47:00.900 --> 00:47:02.059
there was aliens. Was there aliens? Actually,

00:47:02.099 --> 00:47:04.039
there might have been aliens. I don't know the

00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:05.699
story. I can't remember. Actually, I think it

00:47:05.699 --> 00:47:10.800
was aliens. I can't remember. That game's tough.

00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:12.460
That's a tough game. Yeah, In the Hunt's tough,

00:47:12.579 --> 00:47:15.679
for sure. But we're not talking about In the

00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.579
Hunt. That's one of my favorite arcade games.

00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:20.940
Yeah, In the Hunt's great. I know I would love

00:47:20.940 --> 00:47:23.360
to have an actual arcade In the Hunt machine.

00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:26.760
Yeah, that'd be crazy. Ryan, what do you think?

00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:32.639
Yeah, I love this game. It's just such a simple,

00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:35.840
basic game. I mean, like I said, there's not

00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:41.800
much to it, but it's just so weird. Almost everything

00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:45.539
about this game is just so odd. Just the pink

00:47:45.539 --> 00:47:49.000
submarines, you shoot sea slugs or sea cucumbers.

00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:52.579
You have to fight sharks because they eat your

00:47:52.579 --> 00:47:57.099
people. There's mermaids with rosaries. And the

00:47:57.099 --> 00:48:00.400
whole story is just... Yeah, and the whole story

00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:07.159
of just awkward aquatic aliens. Well, and just

00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:08.940
your character doesn't want anything to do with

00:48:08.940 --> 00:48:10.840
it. Like, he's kind of... Yeah, and you're a

00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:13.019
drunk pirate with a submarine. That was the weirdest

00:48:13.019 --> 00:48:16.699
part of it to me, yeah. But it's just... It's

00:48:16.699 --> 00:48:20.730
so weird. It's good. for me I don't know it's

00:48:20.730 --> 00:48:23.730
just such like a good charm to this game even

00:48:23.730 --> 00:48:27.110
though there's just gameplay wise there's just

00:48:27.110 --> 00:48:30.989
really nothing to it it's just a nice basic sit

00:48:30.989 --> 00:48:35.550
back and play game but damn is this game weird

00:48:35.550 --> 00:48:37.929
I'm curious if the Japanese version has that

00:48:37.929 --> 00:48:40.610
same storyline I wonder if they Americanized

00:48:40.610 --> 00:48:45.650
it at all I don't know I'm sure it's pretty close

00:48:47.500 --> 00:48:49.559
They didn't change his name, Nerekin. There's

00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:53.579
no way that's an American name. No. I'm sure

00:48:53.579 --> 00:48:56.380
they didn't change it too much. Because, I mean,

00:48:56.460 --> 00:49:00.860
if they did, they must have been smoking something.

00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.000
Oh, for sure. They all were back then. It was

00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.699
the 80s. Coke was all over the place back then.

00:49:06.119 --> 00:49:09.539
Yeah, that's true. But I don't know. To me, it's

00:49:09.539 --> 00:49:14.000
just so odd that it's good. I don't know. It's

00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:19.099
so absurd. It's interesting. It's different.

00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:21.760
It's a different thing than all the other shooters

00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.320
that are on the NES. Yeah, it sticks out for

00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:29.860
sure. But yeah, I love this game. Jacob? Yeah,

00:49:29.900 --> 00:49:33.210
I enjoyed it. I would recommend it. I think the

00:49:33.210 --> 00:49:35.710
thing I really like about this game is that it's

00:49:35.710 --> 00:49:37.630
more than just, like, an arcade shooter where

00:49:37.630 --> 00:49:40.230
you just move, shoot, and avoid your enemies,

00:49:40.449 --> 00:49:43.150
right? You also got your bomb attack, which can,

00:49:43.309 --> 00:49:45.510
you know, hit the crab, and you can pick up the

00:49:45.510 --> 00:49:48.210
gold. You can use it to destroy the factories,

00:49:48.230 --> 00:49:51.190
and you get upgrades, and, you know, they'll

00:49:51.190 --> 00:49:54.690
give you, like, more missiles to shoot, you know,

00:49:54.690 --> 00:49:56.849
changes your missiles, stuff like that. And you

00:49:56.849 --> 00:49:59.829
also have to worry about your fuel, too. So I

00:49:59.829 --> 00:50:02.599
like how it's... It's simple for the most part,

00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:04.400
but then there's these things in there that you

00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.599
really have to consider if you want to keep going.

00:50:07.380 --> 00:50:10.239
It keeps you on the edge of your seat, but it

00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:12.980
doesn't overcomplicate stuff. It's still simple.

00:50:13.820 --> 00:50:17.440
Yeah, that's a good way to put it. So, Jacob,

00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:19.699
you recommend it? Eric, Ryan, do you guys recommend

00:50:19.699 --> 00:50:22.559
people to check this game out? For sure, man.

00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:28.539
Yeah, I would too. If you can. Try to play with

00:50:28.539 --> 00:50:30.760
like a group of people or like with a friend

00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:34.260
or something. Yeah. Yeah. Like arcade style.

00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:37.820
Yeah. Because I mean, like what me, you and Eric

00:50:37.820 --> 00:50:40.099
did. But me and Eric were going back and forth.

00:50:40.139 --> 00:50:43.420
Yeah. The most. Yeah. And dude, that was probably

00:50:43.420 --> 00:50:47.000
the funnest moment on like just us doing this.

00:50:47.059 --> 00:50:49.820
It was just it's such a stupid thing, man. Yeah,

00:50:49.860 --> 00:50:53.400
I know. Just trying to get a high score on just

00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:57.199
a game like nobody knows about. Yeah. damn man

00:50:57.199 --> 00:50:59.840
that was just it was just so fun well i kept

00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:01.239
checking your achievements too and i'm like oh

00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:03.400
he made it to this level i'm like i gotta make

00:51:03.400 --> 00:51:06.480
it past that level man oh yeah we just checked

00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.300
each other's achievements and i saw you got so

00:51:09.300 --> 00:51:11.599
far i was like damn it dude now i gotta beat

00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:15.579
him oh dude it was so funny yeah yeah i agree

00:51:15.579 --> 00:51:18.860
i think it's a i think it sticks out enough from

00:51:18.860 --> 00:51:21.079
a lot of the other stuff on the NES at the time

00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:23.440
that it's just a fun little quick little game.

00:51:23.559 --> 00:51:24.800
And that's the other thing too, is it's not like

00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.059
super long. So you can like, you don't have to

00:51:27.059 --> 00:51:29.460
spend a ton of time on this game. So, but yeah,

00:51:29.559 --> 00:51:32.199
I think I would recommend it. Everybody check

00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:36.019
it out. So, all right. That was our scoon review.

00:51:36.639 --> 00:51:39.639
So we're going to go ahead and step over here

00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:42.139
to our next game, which we are going to be playing

00:51:42.139 --> 00:51:46.139
Demon's Crest for the Super Nintendo. You guys

00:51:46.139 --> 00:51:50.019
have... any experience with this game no just

00:51:50.019 --> 00:51:53.860
uh been on my want to play list for a while yeah

00:51:53.860 --> 00:51:56.280
but i've never played it before this isn't the

00:51:56.280 --> 00:52:00.559
this isn't the ghouls and goblins uh uh series

00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:04.059
you play as the armor i think is his name you

00:52:04.059 --> 00:52:05.980
and this is his game he has like his own solo

00:52:05.980 --> 00:52:08.980
game i know a little bit about it um i watch

00:52:08.980 --> 00:52:11.300
a game center cx if anybody knows what that show

00:52:11.300 --> 00:52:14.530
is it's a japanese show where comedian guy named

00:52:14.530 --> 00:52:17.030
arino plays old he challenges himself to old

00:52:17.030 --> 00:52:19.469
classic games it's it's an awesome show it's

00:52:19.469 --> 00:52:22.449
so funny um but he played this game so i remember

00:52:22.449 --> 00:52:24.329
watching him play through it so i know a little

00:52:24.329 --> 00:52:25.989
bit about it but i've never played it myself

00:52:25.989 --> 00:52:28.690
but it looks cool it's got some pretty pretty

00:52:28.690 --> 00:52:30.469
cool graphics and stuff and i know that much

00:52:30.469 --> 00:52:32.510
and i know it's kind of a tough game because

00:52:32.510 --> 00:52:35.010
it's a ghouls and ghouls and goblins game the

00:52:35.010 --> 00:52:38.050
capcom games some of them are pretty tough so

00:52:38.050 --> 00:52:41.090
yeah yeah i've heard this game is notoriously

00:52:41.090 --> 00:52:44.849
hard I hope it's not ghouls and ghosts hard or

00:52:44.849 --> 00:52:46.710
whatever it is. Or goblins and ghosts. What is

00:52:46.710 --> 00:52:48.710
it, goblins and ghosts? Whatever. I'm willing

00:52:48.710 --> 00:52:51.630
to put the effort into it. Yeah, I'm looking

00:52:51.630 --> 00:52:53.389
forward to it, yeah. I wonder what those chivos

00:52:53.389 --> 00:52:56.489
look like. Yeah, probably. Probably pretty rough.

00:52:58.429 --> 00:53:00.010
All right, so let's go ahead and take a look

00:53:00.010 --> 00:53:03.369
at the box art here. So we've got a pretty cool

00:53:03.369 --> 00:53:06.809
hand paint. It looks like hand painted art of

00:53:06.809 --> 00:53:10.309
the armor with a skull in his hand. And you see

00:53:10.309 --> 00:53:12.789
just jumping out of the box, it says, Demons

00:53:12.789 --> 00:53:16.030
Crest. It's pretty sweet looking. Yeah, that

00:53:16.030 --> 00:53:19.789
looks dope. Isn't that Exact Voice? Yeah, Exact

00:53:19.789 --> 00:53:22.110
Voice or Demons Crest. That's how I would read

00:53:22.110 --> 00:53:23.929
it. Yeah. That's what it looks like to me. It's

00:53:23.929 --> 00:53:26.690
got like fire. It's got the fire on it. It's

00:53:26.690 --> 00:53:29.030
got like a cone head. Yeah, he does look like

00:53:29.030 --> 00:53:31.389
cone head a little bit. Yeah, I mean, dude, as

00:53:31.389 --> 00:53:35.170
a young boy in the video game section of Kmart,

00:53:35.329 --> 00:53:37.789
I'd be like, I want this game right here. I'd

00:53:37.789 --> 00:53:39.650
be like, Mom, I need this game. Yeah, and then

00:53:39.650 --> 00:53:41.190
Mom would be like, you can't have demons. Get

00:53:41.190 --> 00:53:46.210
out of here. It does look sick, dude. We're going

00:53:46.210 --> 00:53:48.789
to buy you Sesame Street on the NES. I don't

00:53:48.789 --> 00:53:54.309
want Sesame Street. Yeah, that's a pretty sick

00:53:54.309 --> 00:53:57.090
cover. I'm already sold for this game. There's

00:53:57.090 --> 00:53:59.610
three different skulls on here, so I don't know

00:53:59.610 --> 00:54:01.010
if they had enough skulls on the front, though.

00:54:01.090 --> 00:54:02.429
They could have added one more in here somewhere.

00:54:02.610 --> 00:54:05.800
A couple more would have been nice. They're all

00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:07.639
different, like, shapes, too. Minus one point.

00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:11.500
He's got, like, a vampire skull in his hand or

00:54:11.500 --> 00:54:14.079
something. Yeah. And then the other two look

00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:16.320
like human heads. Yeah. You know what this reminds

00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:17.760
me of? It reminds me of, like, the old Conan

00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.199
art. That's what I was thinking, too. I was like,

00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.440
this looks a lot like Conan. Like the old fantasy,

00:54:22.539 --> 00:54:24.579
like, Conan -style type of art. That's what it

00:54:24.579 --> 00:54:26.639
looks like to me. This is actually a really good

00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:28.960
drawing on here. I wonder if this looks dope.

00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:30.739
I wonder if this actual painting exists somewhere.

00:54:30.980 --> 00:54:33.920
That'd be cool to have. Yeah, that'd be awesome.

00:54:34.019 --> 00:54:36.780
Yeah, that'd be dope. Alright, let's go to the

00:54:36.780 --> 00:54:40.820
back here. Demon's Crest. Six stones with unimaginable

00:54:40.820 --> 00:54:43.440
power. The Demon Realm is peaceful until six

00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:46.199
wondrous stones fall from the sky. Each stone

00:54:46.199 --> 00:54:48.719
represents a portion of the Demon's Crest. When

00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:50.920
united, the stones of the Demon's Crest bring

00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.780
the user ultimate power over demons and humans.

00:54:54.139 --> 00:54:56.360
These stones were so highly sought that civil

00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:58.650
war broke out in the realm. The fight led to

00:54:58.650 --> 00:55:01.329
much bloodshed until one gargoyle emerged victorious,

00:55:01.730 --> 00:55:05.389
the red demon known as Firebrand. After Firebrand's

00:55:05.389 --> 00:55:08.369
final battle, his evil nemesis, Phalanx, ambushed

00:55:08.369 --> 00:55:10.949
Firebrand and stole the stones. Now Firebrand

00:55:10.949 --> 00:55:13.150
must recover the stones and unite the power of

00:55:13.150 --> 00:55:15.710
the Demon's Crest before both realms fall into

00:55:15.710 --> 00:55:18.789
the hands of the sinister Phalanx. Morph into

00:55:18.789 --> 00:55:21.070
six different forms to explore new areas when

00:55:21.070 --> 00:55:23.409
you find parts of the Demon's Crest. Incredible

00:55:23.409 --> 00:55:26.130
Mode 7 effects as Firebrand flies high above

00:55:26.130 --> 00:55:28.429
the Demon Realm, overlooking seven intense levels.

00:55:28.849 --> 00:55:31.449
25 items hidden in the realm, with different

00:55:31.449 --> 00:55:34.110
endings based on how many items you find. For

00:55:34.110 --> 00:55:49.619
one player. Plus one. I'll put the plus one back

00:55:49.619 --> 00:55:51.619
on. Yeah. I guess they didn't have enough in

00:55:51.619 --> 00:55:54.599
the front. So this has got that mode seven in

00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:57.199
there. That's cool. Everybody loves mode seven.

00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:01.619
So there's different endings, I guess. 25 items

00:56:01.619 --> 00:56:04.619
hidden in the room with different endings. Based

00:56:04.619 --> 00:56:06.659
on how many items you find. So we're going to

00:56:06.659 --> 00:56:08.599
have to find 25 items. I hope we don't have to

00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.360
beat this game multiple times. It looks like

00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:16.300
it. There's only seven levels. That's true. But

00:56:16.300 --> 00:56:21.800
they're all impossible. Yeah, this still looks

00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:24.400
pretty cool. You can see the Mode 7 down here

00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.500
where he's flying over the map. And I guess these

00:56:26.500 --> 00:56:27.920
are boss fights. These look like boss fights

00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.519
they got in the back here. Yeah. This game looks

00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:33.760
awesome. Yeah, the art is pretty wild in this

00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:37.159
game. I do remember that from the Game Center

00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.900
show. The art in this game is awesome. It's pretty

00:56:40.900 --> 00:56:44.260
cool. I mean, this is Capcom, bro. They were

00:56:44.260 --> 00:56:46.559
pretty... They knew how to work that SNES, bro.

00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:49.460
They were pretty good at that. Yeah. All right.

00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:51.300
That's Demon's Crest. You guys looking forward

00:56:51.300 --> 00:56:54.079
to playing this game? Definitely, man. Yeah.

00:56:54.460 --> 00:56:57.300
Absolutely. It looks so awesome. Yeah. I'm ready

00:56:57.300 --> 00:56:59.840
for this game. This one's on my list for a while.

00:56:59.980 --> 00:57:02.920
So, yeah. Let us know out there if you guys have

00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:04.360
any experience with this game. If you guys are

00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:05.659
looking forward to playing it, we want to hear

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00:57:15.460 --> 00:57:18.320
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00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:37.199
guess no one's ever heard of Deezer. But we're

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out there. I couldn't get us on TuneIn. I guess

00:57:40.119 --> 00:57:42.199
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00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:47.260
know. Whatever. Anyway. So yeah, that's it. We

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