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Today, we're talking floating animals, tornadoes

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to the past, and whatever the hell Ascenti is,

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it's Crusader Ascenti for the Sega Genesis. Hello

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everyone, welcome to Retro Gaming Beyond presents

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Retro Game Club. We're your hosts Joe, Eric,

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Ryan, and Jacob Vanderloski. And today we're

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talking Crusader of Senti for the Sega Genesis.

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But as usual, before we get to that, we're going

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to do our little Word of the Nerd section here.

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Just let you guys know what other things we're

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into. So what have you guys been enjoying lately?

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I've been still reading Berserk, making my way

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through that. Getting close to the end. Yeah.

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Is that still going? Yeah. So the Arthur died.

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But his good friend is picking up the series

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to hopefully finish it up. Oh, OK. All right.

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But did it like did it conclude at all or is

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it just. No, I'm pretty sure the story was still

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open. Oh, OK. Yeah, I haven't made it that far,

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but I'm pretty sure he didn't get to finish the

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story, unfortunately. Yeah, that kind of sucks.

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Do you know if he like left notes or whatever?

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I'm not sure. I know the guy that is working

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on it was really close with him. Okay, so he

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probably knew stuff then. Yeah, I'm not sure

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if he worked on it with him. I'm not 100 % sure.

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It's kind of like those Wheel of Time. I like

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the Wheel of Time books. He passed away before

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he got to finish, but he left a ton of notes

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for the next guy. He left it with his wife, and

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she found another author to finish it up for

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him, which is pretty cool. Yeah, that's cool.

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Yep. And then I've been playing Kirby's Dream

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Land on the Switch online thing that they had.

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Oh, yeah. Okay. Nice. I played that. That game's

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good. I like that game. Yeah, it was quick. I

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played it in one sitting. Yeah. You got to play

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the second one. The second one's better. The

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second one's good. I remember that's the one

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we had, right? Yeah, that's the one we had, yeah.

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Yeah. Is that the one with Rick? Yeah. The hamster?

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Yeah. Yeah, the animals. That one's good. Yeah,

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yeah. I forgot. There's a fish and a... And Owl,

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too. I forget their names. Yeah, I just remember

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Rick. Yeah, he was the hamster, yeah. Yeah, Rick

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is awesome. Yeah. And then the third one's on

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the Super Nintendo, which I never played that

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one. Yeah, I don't think I ever played that one

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either. Yeah, I don't know if that one's good

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or not. Alright, cool. You said you beat it.

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You did beat it? Yeah, I beat it in like one

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sitting. It was quick. That one doesn't have

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the collectibles, right? With like the little

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collectible things? That was only the second

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one, I think. No, I don't think there's anything

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like that. Okay. And the second one is, like,

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each world has, like, a special collectible.

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And then, like, if you get them all, you get,

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like, a secret ending or something. It's like

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an extra boss fight or something. Yeah. No, that

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doesn't have that. This one, like, once you beat

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the game, there's, like, a hard mode afterwards.

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And then it gets harder. Okay. That's still pretty

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cool. Yeah. All right. Cool. Anybody else? Yeah.

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I haven't been doing too much playing Senti,

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obviously. Yeah. But I started playing some Project

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Zomboid. It's a pretty popular game. It's like

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a realistic zombie survival game. And it's pretty

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in -depth of how you have to survive and what

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you have to look into and stuff like that. But

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it's a pretty fun game. That's pretty cool. It's

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like a survival game where you collect... items

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and then is there like a story you just see how

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long you can last no it's just to see how long

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you can last i mean the game wouldn't say it

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tries to kill you as much as it can but there's

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pretty much everything that goes against you

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in that game like if you break a window you have

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to uh break the glass around it because if you

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jump through it can get cuts on your arm oh that's

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pretty crazy If you step on broken glass on the

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floor without shoes, you cut your feet. If you're

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carrying too much weight and you jump out of

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a window, the second floor in the house, you

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can break your legs. It's just crazy stuff. Yeah,

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that's pretty involved. That's pretty cool. It's

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like a really in -depth game. There's a field

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of view or your line of sight. You can only see

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what's in front of you, so you can turn. stuff

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like that and see behind you because everything

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that's not your point of view disappears so it's

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got like it's like rpg skill sets you can learn

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mechanics farming woodwork you know you can upgrade

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your sprinting all that type of stuff so that's

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cool but yeah it's it's hard dude yeah have you

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made it very far uh not really i'm still trying

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to learn it because it's it's a pretty big learning

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curve but um I mean, literally when you load

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in your character, it literally tells you, it

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says, this is how you died. Oh, really? That's

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cool. Yeah, yeah. So it's a really hard game,

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but it's really fun. It's fun to learn it because

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there's just so much different shit to learn.

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All right, that's cool. I don't think I've ever

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seen that one. I'm going to have to check that

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one out. Yeah, it's good. Cool. Anything else?

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I've been getting into the Resident Evil games.

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I bought 7 and 8 on a Steam sale. It was really

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good. It was $30 for both of them. And I've been

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going through them, and they're really fun games.

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I think they're like the first mainline Resident

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Evils to be first -person, and they just work

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so well in that perspective. I also really like

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the story and the gameplay and the environment

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of both games. It's just amazing. Everything's

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so good about them. So I beat those. I beat the

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Resident Evil 3 remake. It's pretty short, so

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now I'm playing Code Veronica, and that's one

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of the older games that has those tank controls,

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so it's an adjustment. That's a Dreamcast one,

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right? Yeah, uh -huh. Are 7 and 8, are they related

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at all? Are they in lore to the other ones at

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all? Yeah, uh -huh. Well, Chris Redfield is like...

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He's a part of 7 and 8. And you know, Redfield

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goes back all the way to the first game. Yeah.

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Okay. I want to play those. They have the PSVR

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versions of those that I want to play. Those

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look pretty cool. Yeah, that would be cool. 7

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and 8 are good games, man. I enjoyed them a lot.

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I've never played a Resident Evil game. It's

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crazy. Really? Yeah. I know. We've got to fix

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that with this show. We've got to play some Resident

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Evil. For sure. 7 and 8 are a lot more atmospheric,

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I guess. More horror. But I enjoyed them because

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I played them a long time ago. I mean, they're

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kind of survivalist. That horror survivalist.

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Yeah. I would say they're more horror games than

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anything. Yeah. I mean, ammo was kind of scarce

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in some points and stuff. Depending on how you

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played the game, obviously. Yeah, yeah. They're

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nowhere near as bad as the old PS1s, though.

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PS1s. Oh, yeah. Nowhere near as bad. I'm sure.

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But they are good, though. Yeah, I mean, I've

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always wanted to play them. I do need to play

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them. We need to add those to the list or something.

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We'll have to look into that. For sure, yeah.

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Yeah, I think I tried playing the first one a

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long time ago, but it was tough. Yeah, I mean,

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it's going to be tough. But that's all right.

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I mean, that's kind of the point of the show.

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Just kind of... you know get into these things

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make us play things that we kind of be like i

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don't know if i want to play this but you know

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kind of force our stuff force ourselves but give

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us more of a reason to incentive yeah yeah to

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kind of deep dive into the game instead of playing

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for 10 minutes and be like i don't like this

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you know what i mean so yeah yeah yeah play games

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we haven't heard of before right yeah yeah Well,

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it's just out of the comfort zone a little bit.

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And then just, you know, nowadays we're all just

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so inundated with choices of stuff. You know,

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it's nice to pick something, be like, we're playing

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this. You know what I mean? Kind of gives you

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a reason to keep going. So, but yeah. Yeah. All

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right. Cool. Anything else, Jacob, or just Resident

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Evil this week? Yeah, that's about it. Really?

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Okay. That's cool. Yeah, I've finished up Pac

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-Man. I was watching the Pac -Man cartoons, and

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I actually enjoyed it. It was actually pretty

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good. I thought it would be kind of stupid, but

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they actually did a pretty good job of making

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a cartoon off an arcade game. Yeah, I know. That's

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kind of surprising, you figure. Yeah, I mean,

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it was 80s goofy, but it wasn't bad. It was actually

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pretty good. I mean, it's Hanna -Barbera, so

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they had some quality there already. Yeah. And

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then I started a new cartoon. They had an Earthworm

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Jim cartoon in the early 90s. I didn't even know

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this existed until like a week ago, and I just

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started watching it. But it's actually very good.

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I'm actually impressed with it. It's got good,

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like, the animation's good, the voice acting.

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There's a ton of famous voice actors in there,

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like Earthworm Jim's voice by Dan Castellaneta,

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who does Homer Simpson. Yeah, nice. That's cool.

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But yeah. Actually, and it's not like... a video

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game cartoon that has like nothing to do with

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the video game. There's actually a lot of like,

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like if you play the game, you'd be like, Oh,

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okay. And you know, it's, it's a similar, uh,

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you'd feel familiar with it, you know? Yeah,

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that's cool. So I'm enjoying it so far. I think

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there's a little, I think that's before like

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video game adaptations were not good before.

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Like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess for the time.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the only other thing I think

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I can think of at the time was, like, the Mario

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Bros. show, so... Oh, yeah. I think this is kind

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of when it just started, like, video game stuff

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just kind of started getting into cartoons, you

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know? Yeah. But... I just mean, like, video game

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adaptation, like, movies and stuff usually just...

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Oh, yeah, well, movies, yeah, yeah. They were

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good, so... I mean, even today, like, you know,

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the movies today are still kind of... Like, even

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the Sonic movies are good and stuff, but... Yeah.

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Even sometimes today, like, video game stuff

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is, uh... I mean, it's definitely gotten way

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better than it used to. Like, go watch any old

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90s video game cartoon or movie or something.

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You'd be like, man, what the hell am I watching?

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Like the Super Mario Bros. movies from the 90s.

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I don't think I ever finished the Mortal Kombat

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ones, but I know those were notoriously bad.

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Yeah, those are like a B -movie. The Street Fighter

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ones. Same with the Street Fighters and the...

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Were the Resident Evil ones any good? From what

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I heard, no. Yeah. The ones with, what's her

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name, Naila Djokovic or whatever? Is that the

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ones you're talking about? I don't remember which

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ones. The live action ones? Yeah. They're fine.

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I think they're actually pretty decent movies.

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Oh, okay. There's like six of them, or five or

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six of them. Yeah, I've seen like random ones.

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I don't remember which ones I've seen, but. They're

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not horrible. I mean, they're pretty typical

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B -movies. Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, for what

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they are, they're not horrible. Yeah, I agree.

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The first one is more... The first one's like

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an actual Resident Evil movie, and then the other

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one's just kind of turned into action movies

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with Resident Evil in them. Oh, okay. But, I

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don't know. I enjoyed them. I thought they were

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decent. Yeah, and then... Was that Resident Evil,

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the TV show they had on... netflix not too ago

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yeah i think there's a new cartoon right an animated

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one no it's like a actual um i don't know show

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on netflix could be i can't remember they're

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making so much crap nowadays i don't even know

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yeah that's what it was yeah that actually wasn't

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half bad oh okay i don't know there's too much

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stuff to watch nowadays it's crazy out of all

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the things i do like tv and movie wise that's

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i'm not like a movie buff so yeah yeah Yeah,

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we're more into video games. Yeah, other than

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that, I've just been banging away on AC Shadows.

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I finally unlocked Yasuke. Took a while, but

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I finally unlocked him. Yeah, I didn't know you

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had to unlock him. I thought you just kind of

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switched back and forth as needed. No, you start

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as Naoi, and then... I mean, I did a ton of side

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stuff. I've been playing for about 20 hours now,

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and I finally got him. But I think if you just

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do just straight through the story, it'd probably

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be like six, seven hours before you get to him.

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Yeah. So... Which, I mean, is not too long. I

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mean, it's probably like a 20 -hour game if you

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do just story stuff. Yeah, I mean, it's still

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good. I'm enjoying it. It's a fun game. I'll

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probably be playing that for a while since I

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always 100 % those games like a maniac. Yeah,

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that's pretty crazy. I don't know. We've already

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discussed this, but I don't know. Open world

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games, I just... I'd like to torture myself with

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them. And I do not. I want to go through the

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Far Cry games, but I know that's going to take

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a while. Yeah. Because we beat the first one,

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which is completely different. Yeah, we were

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playing the first one. Yeah. Well, I don't know

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if we were playing it. I had to mod that shit

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because that game is so hard, dude. We went through

00:14:02.659 --> 00:14:05.200
it, yeah. God, that game is impossible. Dude,

00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.360
even with God mode on, it was impossible. I know.

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I still died. It was nuts, dude. That game is

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insane. I don't know how anybody played that

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game. I don't know. All right. That's what we've

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been doing this week. So let's go ahead and get

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into our game. All right, so we've been playing

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Crusader of Senti, which was developed by Nextech

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in 1994 and released for the Sega Genesis. It

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was kind of an initiative by Sega to create more

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RPGs for their system because they were kind

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of being honestly dominated in the market by

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the Super Nintendo. In Japan, it was published

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by Sega. But for some reason in America, I don't

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know, they just did not like RPGs in America

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at the time. So Sega of America actually passed

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on it. And Atlas is the one who published it

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in America, which Atlas did a ton of like Japanese

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imports stuff. So which was actually pretty cool.

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So this game is a top down action adventure game

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where you I mean, it's kind of just. You can

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tell it was kind of a copy of Legend of Zelda,

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honestly. You take the role of Corona, who is

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a young 14 -year -old boy who has come of age

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and must train to protect his village against

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the monsters that have recently reappeared in

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their world. So you start out... You have just,

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like, a sword, and you have to go to the training

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ground. Like, you talk to the king, and then

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you go to the training ground. And then, like,

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immediately you can just tell, like... I don't

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know about you guys, but that sword is awful.

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Yeah, it's horrible. I don't know what it is

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with these old games, but, like, the hitboxes

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never, like, line up with the, like, sprite work.

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It's crazy. The hitbox is awful, this thing.

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I was constantly frustrated with the sword, man.

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Yeah. yeah it's a pain in the butt you have to

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like be facing the same way too yeah i know it's

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even though it like sweeps it still doesn't like

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you know actually hit in that area yeah they're

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more it hits more in the middle more than anything

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yeah it's weird like the tip of the sword is

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useless yeah yeah yeah well so luckily though

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you get in an upgrade pretty early on where you

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can throw the sword uh and honestly that kind

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of becomes the main attack honestly like the

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main just like swing of the sword becomes useless

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and then you just throw this after that point

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it's it's yeah there's no really other reason

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to swing the sword at that point yep so the kind

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of gimmick of this game is that um Early on in

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the game, a mage or wizard or whatever the hell

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that thing was, takes your ability away to talk

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to humans. So throughout the game, you can't

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talk to humans, but then you can talk to animals

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and plants. And so along the way, along your

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journey, you bring in animal allies to help you

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along the way. And you can equip two at a time.

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And each one gives you like a certain ability.

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Uh, like one allows you to throw your song, throw

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your sword for longer. Um, one gives you like

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fire magic. Uh, and then there's like ones you

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can't equip. They're just kind of like passive

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ones. Like there's like the cat that gives you

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like a, uh, like when you die, it like gives

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you another life and stuff and everything like

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that. And then you can also do combos, which

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there really wasn't that many. There's like 15

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animals, but there's only like two or three combos

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that I noticed. There really wasn't that many.

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Yeah, they were all kind of worthless, honestly.

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Yeah, it really was. I think there was only like

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one boss fight or two boss fights that was actually

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like useful in. So yeah, that part was kind of

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kind of lame. So yeah, that's kind of the thing

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with this game is let's just say real quick before

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we really delve into this. Let's make sure that

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we push the achievements in the game, like pull

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those apart and not and not. review those together

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because i know that was a problem for this one

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but it is a major problem yeah i know so if we

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can let's kind of keep the achievements to this

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side right now um but yeah this game is like

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way too easy it's it's literally like baby's

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first like action adventure game So you start

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in, like, a little town area, and then when you

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go to the overworld map, it's not like a free

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roam map. It's just kind of like a stage select,

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and honestly, it's super linear. You just kind

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of go to the next area, and then you kind of

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just kind of have to figure out what you're supposed

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to do in the next area, but there's really no,

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like, there's not really exploring in this game.

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Not to me, anyway. I didn't think so. Not really,

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no. Not exploring, but, like, getting to where

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you need to go. How so? What do you mean? Like,

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you know, you just kind of like go into the stage

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and then you just have to figure out where you

00:19:19.349 --> 00:19:21.890
got to go. Yeah. Yeah. And then I'll admit there's

00:19:21.890 --> 00:19:24.490
not like a clear path, but I mean, it's kind

00:19:24.490 --> 00:19:27.230
of set. Yeah. So like you kind of need you kind

00:19:27.230 --> 00:19:28.970
of know where you need to go, but you don't necessarily

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know what you need to do. Yeah. I'll admit there's

00:19:32.869 --> 00:19:35.529
a couple of times I definitely got stuck. Like

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there was a part where I just could not think

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of this, but you have to throw your sword diagonally.

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And for whatever reason, I just did not think

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to do that. Yeah. And then there was another

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part where you have to pick up you get this this

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animal that you can turn into like a I don't

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know, some kind of like a tablet thing that you

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can like throw and he can push buttons. And it

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took me it took me a few hours to figure that

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one out. I got fed up and I looked it up. I I

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just. Yeah. I was like, what am I supposed to

00:20:05.940 --> 00:20:07.680
be doing here? I had no idea I could pick him

00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:12.579
up. Yeah. So I I've imposed like some like. These

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are just my own rules that I just imposed to

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like enjoy these games. Because I just want to

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I want to try and play these games like they

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would have been like when they originally came

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out, like without Internet and all that stuff.

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So I can only ask you guys for help if I had

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known you guys haven't like looked anything up

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and I can read the manual. That's kind of like

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and I'm not like super strict on it. Like there's

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I think what was it the last Castlevania? I know

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I looked up a couple of things, but for this

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game, I was trying to I was trying to stay in

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that. Yeah, I could not figure out what to do

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for hours, bro. And then I read the manual and

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it's like, you can pick stuff up and throw it.

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And I was like, oh, of course. It just like immediately

00:20:50.099 --> 00:20:52.759
clicked. I was like, that was so obvious. Yeah.

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I mean, I agree. I try to play these games without

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guides as much as possible. But I don't know

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if I just don't have the time like I used to.

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So if it's taking me too long, I just I just

00:21:05.539 --> 00:21:08.230
look it up. Yeah, that's fine. I just I just

00:21:08.230 --> 00:21:10.470
need to get through things sometimes. Yeah, that's

00:21:10.470 --> 00:21:12.289
fine. Like I said, it was just a self -imposed

00:21:12.289 --> 00:21:14.549
rule that I put on myself. But yeah, I mean,

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I agree. Like I if I just just I can't sit there

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for hours like you did 20 minutes or more. Yeah,

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I think I'm I think I'm done. Well, that was

00:21:23.970 --> 00:21:25.829
my day off. And I think I played for like eight

00:21:25.829 --> 00:21:29.750
hours that day. So, yeah, dude. Yeah. But I mean,

00:21:29.769 --> 00:21:31.769
but other than that, I think for the most part,

00:21:31.890 --> 00:21:35.420
I I breeze through this game. It was pretty easy.

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The boss fights are jokes, honestly. I don't

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think there's any boss fight. Other than maybe

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that one stupid beetle thing with the rotating

00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:45.059
platform one. I mean, it's not hard. Just not

00:21:45.059 --> 00:21:48.059
getting hit is hard. Yeah, yeah. But, like, honestly...

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Almost every boss in this game is pretty simple.

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Yeah, they're all pretty easy. Even the final

00:21:53.460 --> 00:21:57.900
boss is a joke. Mm -hmm. Yeah. Yeah. There's

00:21:57.900 --> 00:22:02.599
a combo to certain animals. It lowers the boss's

00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:05.549
health, too. Yeah. Is it like the lion and the

00:22:05.549 --> 00:22:10.809
penguin or whatever? Yeah. It's that or MOA.

00:22:11.150 --> 00:22:14.369
Oh, okay. It was some combo, but it literally

00:22:14.369 --> 00:22:16.390
lowers their max health. So when you start a

00:22:16.390 --> 00:22:21.049
boss fight, they have less health. Oh, really?

00:22:21.769 --> 00:22:24.430
Before you even touch them? Yeah. I think so,

00:22:24.509 --> 00:22:28.509
yeah. I didn't even know that. Yeah, the lion

00:22:28.509 --> 00:22:32.500
and the... penguin do uh like continuous damage

00:22:32.500 --> 00:22:35.680
yeah they do like a special yeah special attack

00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:39.640
like if you hit them it keeps yeah it's like

00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:43.220
a tick damage yeah i mean other than that combo

00:22:43.220 --> 00:22:47.900
for boss fights there's really nothing yeah and

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that was that was the other thing i was gonna

00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:53.500
say this game touted itself as like an rpg i

00:22:53.500 --> 00:22:56.599
i argue this game's not an rpg at all i mean

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i agree with that there's no like leveling system

00:22:59.789 --> 00:23:02.349
or yeah there's no leveling up there's no experience

00:23:02.349 --> 00:23:04.930
you don't even get extra weapons you have one

00:23:04.930 --> 00:23:07.950
weapon the entire game um i mean you get some

00:23:07.950 --> 00:23:10.390
you get some upgrades for that weapon but they're

00:23:10.390 --> 00:23:14.130
so simple that it's i i would not call this game

00:23:14.130 --> 00:23:17.289
an rpg at all i mean technically there are two

00:23:17.289 --> 00:23:21.569
swords but they do the same thing yeah oh yeah

00:23:21.569 --> 00:23:23.849
you get you get like an upgraded holy sword or

00:23:23.849 --> 00:23:26.609
something yeah it's just more damage yeah i think

00:23:26.609 --> 00:23:28.490
so yeah and it doesn't really help that much

00:23:28.490 --> 00:23:32.369
anyways no no yeah but i don't think there's

00:23:32.369 --> 00:23:35.049
anything else right you don't get a shield you

00:23:35.049 --> 00:23:37.470
don't get any other kind of weapon i don't think

00:23:37.470 --> 00:23:41.529
right i don't remember no your animal recruits

00:23:41.529 --> 00:23:46.329
are yeah that's technically your weapons But

00:23:46.329 --> 00:23:49.190
yeah, you specifically, you don't get anything

00:23:49.190 --> 00:23:51.250
besides health upgrades. But again, you really

00:23:51.250 --> 00:23:53.450
don't use them much except for when you need

00:23:53.450 --> 00:23:57.789
to. Yeah, the game tries to implement them as

00:23:57.789 --> 00:24:01.609
much as possible. Yeah, it just didn't do that

00:24:01.609 --> 00:24:07.630
good of a job. No, they didn't. My biggest gripe

00:24:07.630 --> 00:24:09.630
with this game is it just, I don't know, the

00:24:09.630 --> 00:24:12.009
fun factor there, it just wasn't there for me.

00:24:12.630 --> 00:24:15.720
Yeah, I agree. I don't know. It never, like,

00:24:15.740 --> 00:24:20.039
pushed me to do anything. I felt like I had no

00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:24.140
reason to continue. Like, why go on if I'm not

00:24:24.140 --> 00:24:27.579
getting, like, leveled up? Or, you know, like

00:24:27.579 --> 00:24:31.039
you said, there's just no upgrades. Yeah, I mean,

00:24:31.079 --> 00:24:33.140
I guess I can see that. I don't know. I enjoyed

00:24:33.140 --> 00:24:36.299
this game. I thought it was pretty good. I guess

00:24:36.299 --> 00:24:38.599
it was more just, like, continuing the story,

00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:40.299
which, I mean, the story wasn't that great either.

00:24:40.799 --> 00:24:42.339
I guess you're just trying to eradicate monsters

00:24:42.339 --> 00:24:44.900
from the world, I guess, and then get your ability

00:24:44.900 --> 00:24:48.299
to talk to humans back, which eventually you

00:24:48.299 --> 00:24:51.960
do. And then by the end of it, you kind of realize

00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:55.920
that the monsters aren't actually evil. You were

00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.200
just told to, like, go and destroy them. It's

00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:00.220
kind of like, you know, man is the real monster,

00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:04.240
like the zombie movies type of stuff. Yeah. Well,

00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:06.079
that's the thing. Like, the game just starts

00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:09.140
and they're like, oh. you're of age to have a

00:25:09.140 --> 00:25:12.680
sword go yeah at 14 just go yeah that's true

00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.019
there really is no why yeah that's true there

00:25:15.019 --> 00:25:17.400
really is no incentive to like why you're doing

00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:19.160
this it's just kind of like you're doing this

00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.980
yeah so yeah i can see that i don't know just

00:25:22.980 --> 00:25:25.779
like no motivation to continue on like the story's

00:25:25.779 --> 00:25:29.240
kind of blah and realistically the gameplay is

00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:34.799
just kind of mediocre for me yeah i mean having

00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:37.299
the having pets and everything that help you

00:25:37.299 --> 00:25:39.940
fight and you can unlock new ones and stuff.

00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:42.660
That's a cool concept. Yeah, the concept is definitely

00:25:42.660 --> 00:25:44.680
cool. This game did just not execute it, right?

00:25:44.819 --> 00:25:49.099
No, it's not executed the way I thought it was.

00:25:49.380 --> 00:25:53.759
No. I guess so. I don't think it was done wrong.

00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:55.519
I just think it was too simple. That would be

00:25:55.519 --> 00:26:00.680
my complaint. Yeah, I don't know. When you get

00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:04.440
the dinosaur and he can swim over hazardous areas,

00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.240
When you in like the beginning of the game where

00:26:07.240 --> 00:26:10.920
you get him he's useless You have to like swim

00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.380
on like the border of the walls and yeah every

00:26:14.380 --> 00:26:19.180
used him No, he's useless until like the end

00:26:19.180 --> 00:26:22.720
of the game. He's like good and end of the game.

00:26:22.779 --> 00:26:25.140
He's good, but that's it Yeah, and then there's

00:26:25.140 --> 00:26:27.160
just some useless animals in there that you want

00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:28.740
the beginning of the game You get him just to

00:26:28.740 --> 00:26:31.000
swim over that lake and then after that you don't

00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:35.710
really next area. He's not used specifically

00:26:35.710 --> 00:26:39.910
for for your use yeah yeah in the level just

00:26:39.910 --> 00:26:43.049
to get to an area yeah which is kind of dumb

00:26:43.049 --> 00:26:46.089
but yeah yeah i can see that again everything

00:26:46.089 --> 00:26:49.609
is just kind of too simple but yeah i mean you

00:26:49.609 --> 00:26:53.609
can tell that they were trying to um you know

00:26:53.609 --> 00:26:57.569
not copy but have a kind of uh competitor to

00:26:57.569 --> 00:27:00.960
legend of zelda in this one you know with like

00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:02.720
the upgrades and all that stuff and everything

00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.039
and then um the other thing too is they kind

00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.319
of had tried to have like a like a second world

00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:09.619
like the dark world in link to the past where

00:27:09.619 --> 00:27:13.140
um in this in this world or in this game it was

00:27:13.140 --> 00:27:16.559
a tornado but it didn't make a whole new world

00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:18.619
the tornado just kind of moved to past areas

00:27:18.619 --> 00:27:20.660
and then when you went to that area it was just

00:27:20.660 --> 00:27:22.940
kind of a different scene they really didn't

00:27:22.940 --> 00:27:25.579
even change the area that much it was like a

00:27:25.579 --> 00:27:28.099
slightly different shade of color yeah back in

00:27:28.099 --> 00:27:30.250
the past right yeah and then once you Once you

00:27:30.250 --> 00:27:32.549
hit the story beats in that past, it moved on

00:27:32.549 --> 00:27:35.230
to the next one and it went back to normal. Which,

00:27:35.470 --> 00:27:39.589
this made no sense to me. This just didn't add

00:27:39.589 --> 00:27:43.970
anything, really. Yeah, I agree. I don't think

00:27:43.970 --> 00:27:47.190
going back in time did anything for this game.

00:27:47.410 --> 00:27:51.630
It just didn't make any sense. But, I don't know.

00:27:51.730 --> 00:27:54.650
I think the whole point of the game was you go

00:27:54.650 --> 00:27:56.990
back in time and you're trying to eradicate monsters.

00:27:58.539 --> 00:28:01.140
And then when you go back to present time, they

00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:04.579
just don't exist anymore. But I don't understand

00:28:04.579 --> 00:28:08.259
that. Yeah, I think the idea was that the monster

00:28:08.259 --> 00:28:10.779
just appeared out of nowhere a long time ago.

00:28:11.140 --> 00:28:13.500
And you're going back in the past to trying to

00:28:13.500 --> 00:28:15.619
kind of figure out what happened, why they started

00:28:15.619 --> 00:28:17.940
attacking. And then I think I said, like I said,

00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:19.299
that's when you kind of figure out that it was

00:28:19.299 --> 00:28:21.039
actually kind of man who was the aggressor and

00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:24.559
not the monsters. But then, and then you kind

00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:26.440
of, the ending kind of doesn't matter anyway

00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:28.440
because you just send all the monsters back to

00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:29.839
where they came from and nobody learned their

00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.839
lesson, so. Well, they just never existed because

00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.680
you killed the things in the past. Yeah, exactly,

00:28:37.900 --> 00:28:41.400
yep, yep. Yeah, I know. Yeah, so. So, exactly,

00:28:41.740 --> 00:28:44.559
like the whole, this, the whole story was contradictive

00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.079
to itself. I don't know if that was like a. translation

00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.180
thing or if the original game was that way too

00:28:50.180 --> 00:28:51.579
because you know you gotta remember this is early

00:28:51.579 --> 00:28:53.539
90s so the translation may have not been perfect

00:28:53.539 --> 00:28:58.059
either yeah did did you go to the um what's at

00:28:58.059 --> 00:29:01.599
the elephant's house um towards the end of the

00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.500
game you like walk in there and he's like how

00:29:04.500 --> 00:29:06.839
have you been and then there's like a selection

00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.559
for yes and no oh yeah yeah there's there's a

00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.259
lot of like translation issues in this one for

00:29:13.259 --> 00:29:16.349
sure it's it's not perfect uh there's definitely

00:29:16.349 --> 00:29:18.170
some like spacing issues and there's where there

00:29:18.170 --> 00:29:22.490
is grammar stuff as well too so yeah no i mean

00:29:22.490 --> 00:29:25.789
that's understandable but yeah the story to just

00:29:25.789 --> 00:29:29.210
not really make any sense yeah and then i heard

00:29:29.210 --> 00:29:31.549
too that the the european version actually has

00:29:31.549 --> 00:29:33.369
a different translation so i don't know if it's

00:29:33.369 --> 00:29:38.049
any better or not but yeah i mean i don't know

00:29:38.049 --> 00:29:42.680
i thought the so that story and and uh presentation

00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:43.779
and everything in the game, but I don't know.

00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:45.460
I thought the gameplay was fine. You guys didn't

00:29:45.460 --> 00:29:49.839
like the gameplay of the game? I don't know.

00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.200
The platforming was kind of annoying. Really?

00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:56.380
You think so? Yeah, the jumping was stupid, and

00:29:56.380 --> 00:29:59.500
then you keep falling off the side of the edges

00:29:59.500 --> 00:30:01.579
and stuff. Yeah, that was kind of annoying. When

00:30:01.579 --> 00:30:03.400
you're on an edge, you keep sliding off towards

00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.119
the edge. That was annoying. That was really

00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.900
annoying, yeah. And then that stupid room in

00:30:08.900 --> 00:30:11.700
the Tower of Babel with the... rubber bands or

00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:13.779
ropes or whatever they are oh yeah yeah yeah

00:30:13.779 --> 00:30:18.339
and then like with the the moving floors you

00:30:18.339 --> 00:30:21.220
had to like jump on them and then go backwards

00:30:21.220 --> 00:30:23.619
and then like jump farther or whatever yeah you

00:30:23.619 --> 00:30:27.039
have like a momentum yeah yeah that took me a

00:30:27.039 --> 00:30:28.720
while to get to get used to i was like what the

00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.099
hell's going on here with that yeah i don't know

00:30:31.099 --> 00:30:34.539
i just found it more annoying than like fun i

00:30:34.539 --> 00:30:37.420
don't know i don't know i i thought it was fine

00:30:37.420 --> 00:30:41.029
i was enjoying myself for most of the game Nothing

00:30:41.029 --> 00:30:45.130
was consistent. I don't know. It's hard to explain,

00:30:45.250 --> 00:30:49.490
I guess. In older games, if you can keep doing

00:30:49.490 --> 00:30:52.710
something with a rhythm or whatever, it stays

00:30:52.710 --> 00:30:55.269
consistent and then you can learn it. Almost

00:30:55.269 --> 00:30:59.710
like bomb jumping in Metroid or whatever. I felt

00:30:59.710 --> 00:31:01.769
like there was just no consistency with this

00:31:01.769 --> 00:31:09.200
where I could learn the movements. jacob you

00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:10.539
got any thoughts over there would you would you

00:31:10.539 --> 00:31:14.539
think of the game i i like this game i mean it's

00:31:14.539 --> 00:31:16.319
not like the most fun thing in the world it's

00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.319
like a must play but i mean i don't know for

00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.440
like simple action adventure stuff it's it's

00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:24.700
all right it's not bad um i don't think i really

00:31:24.700 --> 00:31:27.559
uh what's it called I didn't do anything crazy

00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.460
in this game. As soon as I got the cheetah and

00:31:30.460 --> 00:31:33.319
the leviathan, I pretty much used them for the

00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.140
rest of the game, except for when I had to change.

00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:41.279
I think they make the game pretty easy. One thing

00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:46.140
I did want to touch upon is we all agree this

00:31:46.140 --> 00:31:48.160
game is really not that hard. It's fairly easy,

00:31:48.299 --> 00:31:50.480
and the puzzles really aren't hard to figure

00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:52.819
out. If you just go around talking to people,

00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.779
you'll... figure out what you need to get and

00:31:54.779 --> 00:31:56.880
what to do and stuff like that and i think that's

00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:59.099
pretty contradicted to like games during that

00:31:59.099 --> 00:32:01.019
time because especially like adventure games

00:32:01.019 --> 00:32:03.940
like like you like legend of zelda right like

00:32:03.940 --> 00:32:06.420
the first two games you really had to you you

00:32:06.420 --> 00:32:08.119
practically had to look up a guide to know what

00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:10.599
you're doing yeah well especially for like rpg

00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.900
games too yeah exactly and um but like this game

00:32:14.900 --> 00:32:17.039
it's it's pretty straightforward right i only

00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:21.259
need to use the guide like twice or so um You

00:32:21.259 --> 00:32:22.980
know, but if I had to if I was playing like the

00:32:22.980 --> 00:32:25.059
original Legend of Zelda, I had to, you know,

00:32:25.059 --> 00:32:27.859
really have a guide by my side to figure everything

00:32:27.859 --> 00:32:31.140
out. But a game like this, it's I think you could

00:32:31.140 --> 00:32:32.960
figure everything out if you really, you know,

00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.619
took your time. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like I said,

00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.220
I pretty much did. I mean, I had one I had Eric

00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:39.920
had to give me one hint and then I had to read

00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:42.160
the manual one time. So I don't I don't really

00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.519
feel like I I don't think I really used a guide

00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.259
at all. So, yeah, I mean, I guess I agree with

00:32:47.259 --> 00:32:50.349
that. I mean, like I said, the gameplay is pretty

00:32:50.349 --> 00:32:53.250
simple. You just have the sword attack. I mean,

00:32:53.269 --> 00:32:54.569
that's literally all you have is a sword attack.

00:32:54.690 --> 00:32:57.789
You don't have anything else. You get to upgrade,

00:32:57.910 --> 00:32:59.230
like you said, with the cheetah. You can start

00:32:59.230 --> 00:33:01.210
dashing and jumping. You don't even start out

00:33:01.210 --> 00:33:02.509
with a jump, actually. You have to learn how

00:33:02.509 --> 00:33:04.450
to do that. Yeah, you have to learn how to jump.

00:33:04.529 --> 00:33:08.329
Yeah, from a bunny rabbit with a cape on. Then

00:33:08.329 --> 00:33:11.390
you have to learn how to throw. Yeah, throw your

00:33:11.390 --> 00:33:15.059
sword. And then there's kind of like some backtracking

00:33:15.059 --> 00:33:16.819
to where you had that there is like upgrades.

00:33:16.940 --> 00:33:18.339
There's like golden apples that you could get

00:33:18.339 --> 00:33:20.759
to upgrade your health. And then some of those

00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:22.140
like you couldn't get right away. You had to

00:33:22.140 --> 00:33:23.680
get like upgrades or whatever, and then you could

00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:27.220
go back and get them. There's also the money

00:33:27.220 --> 00:33:29.140
bags, too. They had money bags. That was another

00:33:29.140 --> 00:33:30.700
thing that I was going to say is the money is

00:33:30.700 --> 00:33:34.000
kind of useless. Like once you get that one eight

00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:35.839
hundred dollar apple and then the money is there's

00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:37.220
really no point for the money in the game at

00:33:37.220 --> 00:33:39.940
all. Yeah, you don't really buy anything besides

00:33:39.940 --> 00:33:42.480
the animals, I guess, if you. Yeah, you got the

00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:44.440
animals, and then that one apple, and then that's

00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:45.519
literally it. I don't think there's anything

00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.319
else to buy. Yeah. And even then, I don't think

00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.339
that, like, the animals that you can buy are

00:33:51.339 --> 00:33:53.960
really that useful. In my opinion, of course.

00:33:55.500 --> 00:33:57.619
No, not really. The only good one is the cat.

00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.299
He's the only good one that's worth having. Yeah,

00:33:59.299 --> 00:34:00.900
for, like, revives and stuff. But then again,

00:34:01.059 --> 00:34:03.259
like, you never die in this game anyway, so...

00:34:03.259 --> 00:34:05.579
Yeah, you get health after, what, every boss

00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:09.320
fight, so... Yeah. That is one thing I thought

00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:11.360
was annoying, was, like, there wasn't enough...

00:34:11.610 --> 00:34:15.030
health around the maps especially if you're like

00:34:15.030 --> 00:34:18.429
trying to figure out things yeah you're constantly

00:34:18.429 --> 00:34:21.050
getting hit yeah that's true i mean we say the

00:34:21.050 --> 00:34:23.210
game's easy but there were some parts like if

00:34:23.210 --> 00:34:25.269
you were trying to get somewhere kind of too

00:34:25.269 --> 00:34:27.170
quick and you weren't if you didn't do like a

00:34:27.170 --> 00:34:29.130
mob control or whatever the enemies would gang

00:34:29.130 --> 00:34:31.530
up gang up on you pretty fast and knock you out

00:34:31.530 --> 00:34:35.969
yeah that definitely happened um you kind of

00:34:35.969 --> 00:34:37.750
had to pay attention to what was going on around

00:34:37.750 --> 00:34:40.130
you and make sure there weren't too many enemies

00:34:41.260 --> 00:34:43.340
which i think i took more damage falling off

00:34:43.340 --> 00:34:47.440
the map and yeah probably yeah stupid platforming

00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.460
wise instead of getting hit by enemies yeah yeah

00:34:51.460 --> 00:34:53.480
so the enemies in the game there there were quite

00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.119
a few i think but nothing nothing to like they're

00:34:56.119 --> 00:35:00.340
all kind of similar i think right yeah yeah i

00:35:00.340 --> 00:35:02.139
don't know nothing really stands out honestly

00:35:02.139 --> 00:35:04.420
yeah i'm trying to think they were just kind

00:35:04.420 --> 00:35:07.460
of there yeah yeah i mean there was like the

00:35:07.460 --> 00:35:11.619
stumps that shoot Yeah, and then Forrester, yeah,

00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:15.940
yeah. And then... But that was really it, though.

00:35:16.019 --> 00:35:18.539
Most of everything in that game is contact damage.

00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:22.059
Yeah. Besides bosses, obviously, but... Right,

00:35:22.099 --> 00:35:25.139
yep. Everything's usually contact damage. Which

00:35:25.139 --> 00:35:27.920
I have to say, the boss fights, although they

00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:29.739
were easy, they were kind of cool. Like, there

00:35:29.739 --> 00:35:31.099
was one where that was kind of like a puzzle

00:35:31.099 --> 00:35:33.679
where he made a bunch of copies of himself and

00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:35.219
he had to find out which one was the real one.

00:35:35.500 --> 00:35:37.679
That was kind of cool. If you swiped the wrong

00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:41.539
one, you took damage. Yeah, that was cool. That

00:35:41.539 --> 00:35:43.880
was neat. There was one boss fight where he was

00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.699
a thing of goo, and you had to switch your magic

00:35:47.699 --> 00:35:49.840
back and forth to do damage to him. That was

00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.639
kind of cool. Yeah, because you had to use the

00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:54.639
opposite of what form. Yeah, like if you hit

00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.460
him with the ice sword, he turned into ice, and

00:35:56.460 --> 00:35:57.780
then you had to switch over to the fire sword,

00:35:57.940 --> 00:35:59.400
which was pretty cool. That was pretty cool.

00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:02.079
Yeah, yeah. The puppet guy was pretty cool, too.

00:36:02.300 --> 00:36:04.300
Oh, yeah, the puppet master guy up here was cool.

00:36:05.219 --> 00:36:07.840
Which, that was annoying, because... You only

00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:11.079
have one animal that does damage to them. Yeah,

00:36:11.139 --> 00:36:15.900
true. That's another thing too. I don't know,

00:36:15.900 --> 00:36:19.500
man. Some of the animals are just so useless

00:36:19.500 --> 00:36:21.500
and some of them you have to use them all the

00:36:21.500 --> 00:36:23.199
time. Yeah, there's only like two or three that

00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:27.880
were really the ones that you needed really just

00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:29.340
to beat the game, honestly. The other ones were

00:36:29.340 --> 00:36:34.159
kind of just extra. Yeah, yeah. Anything else

00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.300
on gameplay? Controls? I guess we can talk controls.

00:36:37.619 --> 00:36:39.119
I don't know. You guys said you didn't like the

00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:40.559
controls. You thought jumping wasn't good or

00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.300
anything. Yeah, I guess it was just like too

00:36:44.300 --> 00:36:48.559
floaty, I guess, maybe. Yeah, I guess I could

00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:50.239
agree that the controls were a little stiff.

00:36:51.179 --> 00:36:56.420
Yeah, I agree. Turning and just trying to, I

00:36:56.420 --> 00:36:59.559
don't know, just aim. with the sword too oh man

00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:02.000
well they did this thing with the graphics too

00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.159
where like your character kind of turns into

00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:06.599
a 3d object whenever you rotate like you don't

00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.980
just go from left to right your entire body actually

00:37:09.980 --> 00:37:11.980
rotates from left to right which was pretty cool

00:37:11.980 --> 00:37:14.300
but yeah when you're trying to like attack something

00:37:14.300 --> 00:37:16.500
that's behind you it takes like an extra couple

00:37:16.500 --> 00:37:18.059
of seconds and it's kind of annoying for sure

00:37:18.059 --> 00:37:21.639
um and yeah it definitely makes your character

00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.699
feel a little bit slower uh over time but i mean

00:37:26.030 --> 00:37:28.469
You are only a 14 -year -old kid with a sword.

00:37:28.730 --> 00:37:33.010
You're fighting these giant monsters. I did like

00:37:33.010 --> 00:37:34.929
how you could fall in holes and then you'd just

00:37:34.929 --> 00:37:37.150
have the Puyo Puyo eyes sticking out of the holes.

00:37:37.150 --> 00:37:42.130
That was pretty funny. That was pretty funny.

00:37:43.010 --> 00:37:47.230
Okay, let's jump over to the graphics. The graphics

00:37:47.230 --> 00:37:49.409
in this game are pretty damn good. This is a

00:37:49.409 --> 00:37:52.809
pretty good -looking Sega Genesis game. Yeah,

00:37:52.829 --> 00:37:56.750
I agree. It's got, like, Kind of like its own

00:37:56.750 --> 00:38:01.369
charm. Yeah. Like, we just talked about it, but,

00:38:01.409 --> 00:38:04.530
like, your character kind of has, like, a 3D

00:38:04.530 --> 00:38:06.469
effect. Like, there's not just, like, a left

00:38:06.469 --> 00:38:07.969
sprite and then a right sprite. Your character

00:38:07.969 --> 00:38:10.989
actually rotates over to whatever direction you

00:38:10.989 --> 00:38:12.369
want to face, which I thought was pretty cool.

00:38:12.630 --> 00:38:14.889
And then, like, the backgrounds in this game

00:38:14.889 --> 00:38:16.809
are really cool. They're really, like, animated

00:38:16.809 --> 00:38:19.829
and vibrant. There's a cool part, like, when

00:38:19.829 --> 00:38:22.190
you're fighting that dragon, Maldra, dragon or

00:38:22.190 --> 00:38:25.039
whatever. It's like you're above the clouds,

00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:28.340
but then the birds came up from out of the clouds,

00:38:28.420 --> 00:38:29.880
and they had that cloud effect. You guys see

00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.980
that? That was cool. Yeah. I like that. That

00:38:32.980 --> 00:38:34.760
was a pretty cool -looking effect that they had

00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:37.679
on there. They also had the parallax scrolling.

00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:41.179
They had trees that went over the screen, over

00:38:41.179 --> 00:38:42.960
your character and everything, which was kind

00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.739
of cool. There's a lot of nice use of effects

00:38:46.739 --> 00:38:48.679
in this game. I think they did a pretty good

00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:53.670
job of... Maybe they didn't... nail it on gameplay

00:38:53.670 --> 00:38:55.530
but on the graphics i feel like they did a pretty

00:38:55.530 --> 00:38:58.449
good job yeah i agree it's definitely like the

00:38:58.449 --> 00:39:03.809
stronger suit of this game yeah there's a lot

00:39:03.809 --> 00:39:06.690
of uh depth to it yeah like you said you can

00:39:06.690 --> 00:39:10.130
walk under the trees and the clouds and all that

00:39:10.130 --> 00:39:12.929
stuff i mean it looks like you're you know it's

00:39:12.929 --> 00:39:15.849
like it looks like an actual 3d game yes it's

00:39:15.849 --> 00:39:18.429
definitely more like a mature uh top down for

00:39:18.429 --> 00:39:23.510
sure yeah I mean, this came out in 94. The Sega

00:39:23.510 --> 00:39:25.510
Saturn was only a year away at that point, so

00:39:25.510 --> 00:39:27.670
this was pretty late into the Genesis' life.

00:39:28.510 --> 00:39:33.230
Yeah. Speaking of graphics, did any of you notice,

00:39:33.309 --> 00:39:37.989
like, in the beginning area, that village, there's,

00:39:37.989 --> 00:39:41.789
like, this old man that you can speak to, but

00:39:41.789 --> 00:39:44.690
it's, like, standard sprite. Like, his hair is

00:39:44.690 --> 00:39:46.889
covering his eyes, but if you go right up to

00:39:46.889 --> 00:39:49.400
him... like one of his eyes will be exposed and

00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.159
it's like you know he's waiting for you to say

00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:54.300
something i don't know his sprite changes when

00:39:54.300 --> 00:39:57.679
you get closer yeah uh -huh so like before you

00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.019
before you go up to him like his hair is completely

00:40:00.019 --> 00:40:02.239
covering his eyes right but if you go like right

00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:04.719
up to him you can see like one of his eyes like

00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.559
opens and it's like he looks at you like you

00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:09.760
know he's waiting for you to say something no

00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:13.079
i didn't notice that that's cool I did notice

00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:15.139
the giant Sonic the Hedgehog, though, that was

00:40:15.139 --> 00:40:18.800
in there. Yep. Sitting on the beach. It's hard

00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:22.699
to miss that. Yeah, the Gallant Hedgehog. That

00:40:22.699 --> 00:40:24.679
was a nice little reference in there. I thought

00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:28.920
that was funny. Yeah. Yeah. Which is a good segue

00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:33.360
to sound. Sure, yeah. Because this soundtrack

00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:36.710
sounds... Very heavily influenced by Sonic. Yeah,

00:40:36.769 --> 00:40:39.050
that's how I felt too. I felt like there was

00:40:39.050 --> 00:40:40.750
a few of the songs that I was like, this could

00:40:40.750 --> 00:40:42.550
be in a Sonic game. Like it sounds just like

00:40:42.550 --> 00:40:46.090
Sonic the Hedgehog. Yep. And I don't know if

00:40:46.090 --> 00:40:49.030
that's just the Genesis. Like when you make good

00:40:49.030 --> 00:40:50.969
music on the Genesis, if it just sounds like

00:40:50.969 --> 00:40:54.510
Sonic the Hedgehog or what it is. Yeah, Sonic

00:40:54.510 --> 00:40:57.010
music is like the standard for the Genesis. Yeah,

00:40:57.010 --> 00:40:59.170
I mean the Genesis has such a unique sound. Like

00:40:59.170 --> 00:41:00.989
if you do it right, you can't get away from it.

00:41:01.690 --> 00:41:05.539
Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I don't know. I think this

00:41:05.539 --> 00:41:08.699
just sounded like Sonic. Yeah, especially that

00:41:08.699 --> 00:41:11.039
one desert song. I was like, this sounds exactly

00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:13.719
like the desert song from Sonic and Knuckles.

00:41:13.880 --> 00:41:16.539
It was so good. And it was good. I liked it.

00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:19.099
I thought it was all pretty good. I think the

00:41:19.099 --> 00:41:22.519
village song, their starting village song, I

00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.780
was immediately humming that song within minutes

00:41:24.780 --> 00:41:29.079
of listening to it. Yeah, yeah. It's good. Even

00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.579
the intro music was pretty good. Yeah, yeah.

00:41:32.699 --> 00:41:37.059
It's just like a nice upbeat song. But yeah,

00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.079
I will say that the sound was pretty good. Yeah,

00:41:40.099 --> 00:41:43.500
I enjoyed it. The sound effects were decent,

00:41:43.579 --> 00:41:45.920
I guess, right? I don't really remember sound

00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.719
effects too much. They're okay. Make a little

00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:53.519
sound when you kill the enemies and stuff like

00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:56.920
that. I do like when you get it. I do like when

00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.179
you get hit and you're like, ow. Yeah, you scream.

00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.699
It got a little annoying after a while, but yeah.

00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:06.800
It's kind of a weird scream for a 14 -year -old

00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:11.840
boy, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. Yeah, I mean, just

00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:16.079
a couple other things. I was thinking, I wonder

00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:19.400
if they made their character green, like Link

00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.579
on purpose, just to kind of, I don't know, I

00:42:22.579 --> 00:42:25.820
guess give a middle finger to... nintendo i don't

00:42:25.820 --> 00:42:28.059
know if they did that on purpose or not but uh

00:42:28.059 --> 00:42:31.119
i don't doubt it yeah i'm sure there was thought

00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:35.059
behind that yeah yeah there's also a lot of little

00:42:35.059 --> 00:42:38.159
funny things in here too like um with like the

00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:41.000
cyclone with the tornado the the girl that went

00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:43.559
back in time her name was dorothy like a wizard

00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:47.699
of oz reference um yep yep and the shoes that

00:42:47.699 --> 00:42:53.670
you get are the yeah yeah and then um They had

00:42:53.670 --> 00:42:56.010
the rock of prostration and reflection. I don't

00:42:56.010 --> 00:42:58.309
know if you guys found that or not. Yeah, I've

00:42:58.309 --> 00:43:02.030
seen that. It's so weird. I guess when your character

00:43:02.030 --> 00:43:03.929
sprite is pushing on the rocks, it looks like

00:43:03.929 --> 00:43:06.510
that. It's such a weird thing they put in there.

00:43:06.730 --> 00:43:10.050
Yeah. Oh, that's something I wanted to talk about

00:43:10.050 --> 00:43:12.349
too. I thought it was a weird design choice that

00:43:12.349 --> 00:43:14.710
they made the animals float behind you. I don't

00:43:14.710 --> 00:43:17.869
understand why they thought... I don't know why

00:43:17.869 --> 00:43:19.590
they didn't just have them follow you. It made

00:43:19.590 --> 00:43:22.389
no sense to me. yeah i don't know i just maybe

00:43:22.389 --> 00:43:28.650
game limitations or magical i guess yeah i mean

00:43:28.650 --> 00:43:30.750
there were games in the nes where you had party

00:43:30.750 --> 00:43:34.929
members follow behind you so yeah i don't know

00:43:34.929 --> 00:43:38.190
just maybe time constraint i don't i'm not sure

00:43:38.190 --> 00:43:39.570
yeah it could be i don't know i just thought

00:43:39.570 --> 00:43:41.530
it was a weird choice when when i first equipped

00:43:41.530 --> 00:43:43.250
my dog and he was just floating behind me i was

00:43:43.250 --> 00:43:46.650
like what the hell is going on here yeah i wasn't

00:43:46.650 --> 00:43:50.269
expecting that either yeah I thought it was going

00:43:50.269 --> 00:43:52.949
to be, like, Pokemon Yellow or something. Yeah,

00:43:53.150 --> 00:43:55.190
when you have two of them, they're, like, diagonally

00:43:55.190 --> 00:43:58.550
behind you. Yeah, it's just weird. Weird design

00:43:58.550 --> 00:44:00.530
choice, yeah. It is weird, because, like, one

00:44:00.530 --> 00:44:03.230
of them, is it the penguin? I can't remember,

00:44:03.349 --> 00:44:06.909
but, like, their feet do, like, walk, but they're

00:44:06.909 --> 00:44:10.789
floating. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, his animation,

00:44:10.989 --> 00:44:12.590
his sprite animation looks like he's walking,

00:44:12.670 --> 00:44:15.550
but he's just floating behind you. Yeah, yeah.

00:44:15.789 --> 00:44:22.130
Yeah, that was weird. all right so uh let's go

00:44:22.130 --> 00:44:24.670
ahead and get into the achievements then so this

00:44:24.670 --> 00:44:26.869
is where it's gonna get even worse i guess really

00:44:26.869 --> 00:44:31.909
i mean to be fair i enjoyed this game i know

00:44:31.909 --> 00:44:34.369
jacob you enjoyed it too i think eric and ryan

00:44:34.369 --> 00:44:37.989
you guys kind of struggled with this one um but

00:44:37.989 --> 00:44:41.050
for the achievements i think we all agree that

00:44:41.050 --> 00:44:44.550
uh these i'm sorry listen i think it's cool that

00:44:44.550 --> 00:44:47.480
this is all free There's people that put their

00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.880
time into this all for free, asking nothing for

00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.980
in return, but man, this list fucking sucks,

00:44:54.139 --> 00:44:57.960
dude. This set is terrible. It is. Absolutely

00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:00.139
terrible. It's one of the worst ones I've seen

00:45:00.139 --> 00:45:04.440
in this website. It's awful. It's just all the

00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:06.679
same thing. It's just beat every boss without

00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:09.840
getting hit. As like the game itself, there's

00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:12.599
really not much of innovation in these achievements.

00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:15.780
But they're just a pain in the ass and they suck.

00:45:16.019 --> 00:45:19.000
Yeah, they're annoying. Every single one is basically

00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.019
missable, but they're not marked. Yeah, that's

00:45:22.019 --> 00:45:23.579
what I don't understand. Unless I'm misunderstanding

00:45:23.579 --> 00:45:26.219
something. Almost every single one of these achievements

00:45:26.219 --> 00:45:28.239
should be missable, but none of them are marked

00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:32.199
that way. I don't understand why. I don't know.

00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:37.539
I locked myself out a bunch of them. Yeah, I've

00:45:37.539 --> 00:45:40.659
missed a couple. of the early ones luckily they

00:45:40.659 --> 00:45:42.440
were early ones and i realized right away that

00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:44.380
i was missing them so i had to start over but

00:45:44.380 --> 00:45:46.179
it only took me like an hour i think to get those

00:45:46.179 --> 00:45:49.460
ones but yeah yeah i'm the same way i missed

00:45:49.460 --> 00:45:53.260
a couple early ones i locked myself out a couple

00:45:53.260 --> 00:45:56.360
of them and i'm just it's just frustrating dude

00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:58.260
because they're not marked or anything yeah i

00:45:58.260 --> 00:46:00.599
know yep yep like the gold medal one you have

00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:02.159
to like make it all the way there without getting

00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:06.699
taking any damage yep yep like And then I'm going

00:46:06.699 --> 00:46:08.840
to make it all the way there and then not get

00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:10.800
it and then die or start the game over and then

00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:13.659
go do it again. Right. Yep. It's just stupid.

00:46:13.699 --> 00:46:15.360
And then for some of the boss ones, too, you

00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:17.260
could only have like no animals equipped, only

00:46:17.260 --> 00:46:20.280
certain ones equipped. But like you don't know

00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:21.920
when the boss is going to show up. So if you

00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:23.639
have something in there, it's you're already

00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:26.500
locked out of it. Yeah. So you have to restart

00:46:26.500 --> 00:46:29.519
and do the whole area again and then know where

00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:31.239
it starts and then you have to take them off.

00:46:31.340 --> 00:46:33.480
That's another thing that sucks with this game

00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:37.500
is there's a save option. Yeah, we didn't touch

00:46:37.500 --> 00:46:39.920
on that. But the save option only stays at the

00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:44.340
beginning of the stage. Yeah, so sometimes you

00:46:44.340 --> 00:46:45.880
have to redo the whole dungeon before you get

00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.179
to the boss again. Yep. And just because you

00:46:50.179 --> 00:46:51.619
didn't know when it would start and you have

00:46:51.619 --> 00:46:55.880
an animal in the wrong slot. Yeah, exactly. yeah

00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.880
those were really annoying yeah i agree i agree

00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:03.780
with that and then dude there's the at the end

00:47:03.780 --> 00:47:08.300
with the five bosses god that is annoying not

00:47:08.300 --> 00:47:11.239
to get hit there's like at the end of the whole

00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:15.699
dungeon yeah you have to fight well you wouldn't

00:47:15.699 --> 00:47:18.360
you have to like learn all of them well on that

00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:21.579
one luckily if you um you just have to beat one

00:47:21.579 --> 00:47:24.800
of them one time and then you can save And then

00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.400
you're in that area. You just have to beat one.

00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:29.719
And then you can start the next boss and start

00:47:29.719 --> 00:47:32.679
over from the last boss. It's still annoying

00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:34.440
though because you have to beat one without getting

00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.920
hit. So you have to know which one's the easiest

00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.760
to do it and then get that achievement and then

00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:46.539
save. I did it with the eye one. But I mean,

00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:48.480
how do you know which one's the easiest one?

00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:52.239
Dude, I was getting so frustrated. I was getting

00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:54.420
so frustrated. Yeah, I know. That put was annoying.

00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.400
I ended up just saying screw it. Because I'm

00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.360
missing fucking achievements anyway. Yeah, yeah.

00:48:01.420 --> 00:48:04.099
Because this is the first time I've ever had

00:48:04.099 --> 00:48:06.420
problems. Yeah, that's right. One of yours didn't

00:48:06.420 --> 00:48:09.340
unlock, right? One of them didn't unlock. And

00:48:09.340 --> 00:48:13.519
then I beat the game. And Retro Achievement says

00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.019
it's unfinished. Oh, really? Maybe because I

00:48:17.019 --> 00:48:19.570
don't have that one achievement. Maybe. Maybe

00:48:19.570 --> 00:48:21.269
it looks wrong. Because it is a progression achievement.

00:48:21.269 --> 00:48:24.210
Yeah, that might be why, yeah. Luckily, it's

00:48:24.210 --> 00:48:26.210
an earlier one, so I might just run through and

00:48:26.210 --> 00:48:28.030
grab it and see. Yeah. Of course, they never

00:48:28.030 --> 00:48:31.969
got back to you either, right? No. Yeah. I had

00:48:31.969 --> 00:48:35.949
low hopes on that anyway. Yeah, I know. It was

00:48:35.949 --> 00:48:39.630
worth a shot. Yeah, I know, I know. But, all

00:48:39.630 --> 00:48:43.019
right. Anything else on the achievements? They

00:48:43.019 --> 00:48:46.599
suck and ruin this game. I mean, kind of. I don't

00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.679
disagree. There's some good ones that collect

00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.300
the golden apples and the money bags and stuff.

00:48:52.619 --> 00:48:56.880
Those are hidden, so I understand that. I don't

00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:59.480
think that some of the boss ones are bad, but

00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:02.699
it's the same thing for every boss. That's what's

00:49:02.699 --> 00:49:05.800
annoying. I don't mind a no -hit boss. I'm okay

00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:09.159
with that, but the stupid... have this animal

00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:12.800
equipped or nothing in slot b and you can't jump

00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:15.900
right like what yeah yeah and then setting up

00:49:15.900 --> 00:49:18.139
for him to not knowing when the boss is going

00:49:18.139 --> 00:49:20.780
to be so if you already have that animals equipped

00:49:20.780 --> 00:49:24.280
yeah you automatically miss that achievement

00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.860
so yeah by halfway through the game i didn't

00:49:26.860 --> 00:49:29.239
have animals equipped most of the time yeah every

00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:31.099
time i went through like a room or whatever i

00:49:31.099 --> 00:49:33.360
just unequipped everything i wanted yeah which

00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:36.440
is again stupid very annoying and time consuming

00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.480
yeah I probably would have definitely enjoyed

00:49:39.480 --> 00:49:41.719
this game a little bit more if I didn't have

00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.179
this in my mind. Yeah, that's what I was saying

00:49:44.179 --> 00:49:45.840
before the beginning of this episode. See if

00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:49.539
you guys can kind of separate that. I don't know.

00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:51.800
This is just like one of my least favorite genres

00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:55.539
of games. And yeah, this game is just like I

00:49:55.539 --> 00:49:58.780
said, it's just nothing special and time constraint.

00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:01.019
And I don't know. I think everything just kind

00:50:01.019 --> 00:50:04.800
of clashed with this one for me. It's crazy.

00:50:04.860 --> 00:50:06.360
I thought it was just a fun little jaunt through

00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:11.360
the... through a monster world but i just i can't

00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:15.619
agree on all of them yeah that's fine so i don't

00:50:15.619 --> 00:50:18.179
know fun fun just wasn't there for me frustration

00:50:18.179 --> 00:50:21.679
was yeah i agree all right well you guys can

00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:26.460
pick the next game yes all right well with that

00:50:26.460 --> 00:50:28.480
said let's go ahead and get on to our final reviews

00:50:44.619 --> 00:50:48.900
All right, so who wants to go first? Go ahead,

00:50:48.980 --> 00:50:52.340
Jacob. Yeah, let's start positive. Jacob, you

00:50:52.340 --> 00:50:57.400
go ahead, go first. Yeah, I think it's a good

00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.639
game. I liked it. I thought it was a pretty,

00:51:00.739 --> 00:51:02.840
you know, simple adventure game. You can just

00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:05.260
kind of sit back, kick back, and just relax,

00:51:05.460 --> 00:51:09.260
you know. I wouldn't say it's like, you know,

00:51:09.260 --> 00:51:12.599
a must play or anything, but if you want to...

00:51:13.019 --> 00:51:15.079
Like a light adventure game. I definitely give

00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:20.579
it a go. All right. Brian, Eric, did you enjoy

00:51:20.579 --> 00:51:22.280
it? I don't know how negative you want. You want

00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.380
extreme negative? Go for it. I mean, that's what

00:51:24.380 --> 00:51:26.760
the point of the podcast is. It's your opinion.

00:51:28.539 --> 00:51:33.280
No, I didn't enjoy this game. I didn't. I just,

00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:37.139
I felt like it added nothing to, I don't know,

00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.000
just kind of like a waste of time, honestly.

00:51:39.820 --> 00:51:45.320
I mean, isn't that what video games are? I could

00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:48.079
have spent my time better. In a joyful waste

00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:51.320
of time. With a game that I enjoyed. I mean,

00:51:51.340 --> 00:51:54.239
if that's how you feel, that's how it is. I agree.

00:51:54.460 --> 00:51:57.719
That's what I'm saying. I'm with Sega of America

00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:06.000
on this one. Ryan, what do you say? Do you agree

00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:10.019
with Sega of America? I don't know. Yes. I mean...

00:52:10.670 --> 00:52:12.730
It just depends what you want, I guess. If you

00:52:12.730 --> 00:52:17.750
want an easy RPG and you don't like just grinding

00:52:17.750 --> 00:52:21.170
and going to the same rooms and trying to figure

00:52:21.170 --> 00:52:24.110
out what you have to do for hours on end, I mean,

00:52:24.130 --> 00:52:26.190
you would probably like this game because it's

00:52:26.190 --> 00:52:30.070
not hard. It's pretty linear. Most of the time,

00:52:30.090 --> 00:52:32.289
you pretty much know where you have to go, just

00:52:32.289 --> 00:52:35.269
not what you have to do. So, I mean, figuring

00:52:35.269 --> 00:52:37.070
things out in this game is not going to be hard.

00:52:37.150 --> 00:52:40.110
It's not going to take a long time. But it's

00:52:40.110 --> 00:52:45.030
just, it's not very enjoyable, I guess. Like

00:52:45.030 --> 00:52:49.030
I said, the concept was really cool. Having enemy

00:52:49.030 --> 00:52:51.869
or animal allies to help you. They have different

00:52:51.869 --> 00:52:54.710
abilities that they can do, but it just wasn't

00:52:54.710 --> 00:52:57.969
executed right. It's just, I don't know. You

00:52:57.969 --> 00:53:00.449
unlock all of them and some of them are useless

00:53:00.449 --> 00:53:02.429
and some of them you use for the whole game.

00:53:02.710 --> 00:53:06.849
So, I don't know. I want to say I'm 50 -50 on

00:53:06.849 --> 00:53:08.829
it. I don't think this game was... absolutely

00:53:08.829 --> 00:53:12.630
horrible and i should think it should never exist

00:53:12.630 --> 00:53:16.429
but i don't know no i didn't really enjoy it

00:53:16.429 --> 00:53:20.230
but there was times where it was it was doable

00:53:20.230 --> 00:53:27.340
right yeah fair enough i mean I would say I enjoyed

00:53:27.340 --> 00:53:29.639
this game. It was just a simple romp through

00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:34.059
a fantasy world. Like I said, I like the idea

00:53:34.059 --> 00:53:36.440
that they took items and turned them into animals.

00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:38.059
That was kind of cool. Kind of gave them a little

00:53:38.059 --> 00:53:41.539
bit of a character and stuff. I mean, I guess

00:53:41.539 --> 00:53:43.440
that's something they could have elaborated on

00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:46.840
is giving those animals more story. That might

00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:49.199
have given the game more reason to be played.

00:53:49.539 --> 00:53:52.760
Like trying to figure out their backgrounds and

00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:54.860
stuff. That would have been cool. Which, I mean,

00:53:54.860 --> 00:53:56.280
they had a tiny little bit of that, like with

00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.679
the penguin and stuff. But yeah, I don't know.

00:53:58.719 --> 00:54:00.739
It's just a simple game. You didn't have to think

00:54:00.739 --> 00:54:05.599
about it too much. So yeah, I enjoyed it. OK,

00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.960
so this is kind of where the reason why I have

00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:12.760
the enjoyed and recommended. OK, so just because

00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.420
you guys didn't enjoy it doesn't mean necessarily

00:54:15.420 --> 00:54:17.059
mean that you wouldn't recommend it to people.

00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:20.639
So, Jacob, you went first. Would you recommend

00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:24.710
this game to people? Yeah, I recommend it. I

00:54:24.710 --> 00:54:27.110
wouldn't say it's like a must play, but, you

00:54:27.110 --> 00:54:30.429
know, again, it's just a simple, fun little little

00:54:30.429 --> 00:54:32.050
adventure. You can just go through, you know,

00:54:32.050 --> 00:54:35.070
just sit back, get back, relax. So I do recommend

00:54:35.070 --> 00:54:37.989
it. Yeah, I'll agree with you, Jacob. If you

00:54:37.989 --> 00:54:39.630
just want to sit back and play like a simple

00:54:39.630 --> 00:54:42.130
classic Genesis game, this is one that you can

00:54:42.130 --> 00:54:43.809
just you don't really have to think about it

00:54:43.809 --> 00:54:45.789
too much. You just kind of play through and have

00:54:45.789 --> 00:54:47.429
some fun. So, yeah, I would recommend it, too.

00:54:48.369 --> 00:54:51.869
All right, Eric, what do you say? I mean, if

00:54:51.869 --> 00:54:56.570
you literally got nothing else to do, and you've

00:54:56.570 --> 00:54:58.690
played every other video game you've played before,

00:54:58.889 --> 00:55:03.590
I guess, but I don't think so. It's just not

00:55:03.590 --> 00:55:07.090
worth it. Your hate for this genre makes no sense

00:55:07.090 --> 00:55:09.909
to me, man. It's just not worth it, bro. It makes

00:55:09.909 --> 00:55:12.750
no sense to me. There was not one time I was

00:55:12.750 --> 00:55:14.469
playing this game and was like, oh, wow, yeah,

00:55:14.610 --> 00:55:21.940
this is great. Really? Like the first time you

00:55:21.940 --> 00:55:23.619
got your animal and the dog was floating behind

00:55:23.619 --> 00:55:25.679
you, you didn't think that? I mean, I was like,

00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.940
wow, okay. Like, why the hell is he flying? He's

00:55:28.940 --> 00:55:31.340
a dog. I guess that's a big no. Ryan, what do

00:55:31.340 --> 00:55:36.860
you say? Hmm. I mean... Go ahead, bro. Lay it

00:55:36.860 --> 00:55:41.099
on him. No, you're the only one here, I think.

00:55:41.219 --> 00:55:43.960
If you're like five years old and you want to

00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:49.059
play an RPG, I think this is good to start. But...

00:55:49.980 --> 00:55:53.239
I just, I don't know, man. I'm not a big fan

00:55:53.239 --> 00:55:55.760
of JRPGs either. I mean, I'll play them. I've

00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:59.199
played RPGs before. I just think if you want

00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:02.179
to play one, this is not the one to play. I mean,

00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:05.139
if you want something basic or you want something

00:56:05.139 --> 00:56:08.880
easy, sure, I'd recommend it. But it's just,

00:56:08.940 --> 00:56:13.260
it's not really much to this game, man. If you

00:56:13.260 --> 00:56:16.769
want to find something in the RPG genre. There's

00:56:16.769 --> 00:56:18.510
plenty of other games to play. This isn't an

00:56:18.510 --> 00:56:20.670
RPG, though. That's something we keep harping

00:56:20.670 --> 00:56:24.010
on. What is this game, then? It's just an action

00:56:24.010 --> 00:56:28.530
-adventure game. I guess. They say it's an RPG,

00:56:28.710 --> 00:56:31.469
but I argue that it has nothing to do with RPGs.

00:56:31.809 --> 00:56:35.070
I agree, but I'm just saying it because that's

00:56:35.070 --> 00:56:36.389
what it's labeled on the record. Where was the

00:56:36.389 --> 00:56:41.510
action at, though? Bro. There was adventure,

00:56:41.829 --> 00:56:43.909
but there was no action. You're not going to

00:56:43.909 --> 00:56:46.809
be in the next episode, bro. the worst game i've

00:56:46.809 --> 00:56:50.250
ever played but i i can see where it's coming

00:56:50.250 --> 00:56:52.769
from because it's it's just really not that impressive

00:56:52.769 --> 00:56:55.550
i guess i mean like i said cool concept poor

00:56:55.550 --> 00:56:59.429
execution but if there's just so many other games

00:56:59.429 --> 00:57:02.429
like this that are better just this one could

00:57:02.429 --> 00:57:04.250
be a pass yeah but we're never gonna play him

00:57:04.250 --> 00:57:05.949
now because eric won't he'll be like oh that's

00:57:05.949 --> 00:57:10.610
an action rpg i'm playing well well i mean as

00:57:10.610 --> 00:57:13.130
long as it's better than this game yeah well

00:57:13.130 --> 00:57:14.389
you don't know that until you play it though

00:57:16.139 --> 00:57:17.860
It can't be any worse than this game. This has

00:57:17.860 --> 00:57:20.619
been the least enjoyable game as of so far. Really?

00:57:20.719 --> 00:57:23.840
Wow. I mean, honestly, I think I'd agree with

00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:26.900
you. But not that I didn't enjoy this game, just

00:57:26.900 --> 00:57:28.440
compared to the other ones we've played so far.

00:57:29.460 --> 00:57:31.380
Yeah, we have played some pretty banger games.

00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:35.400
I had more fun playing Galaga for hours. Yeah,

00:57:35.420 --> 00:57:39.360
you would. Alright, that's enough of that. I'm

00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:44.000
50 -50 on it. Take your pick. 60 -40. That means

00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:48.159
no. If it's not a 100%, it's a no. Yeah. All

00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:49.760
right, well, that's what we think about this

00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.179
game, so that'll do it for this week. Let us

00:57:52.179 --> 00:57:53.920
know what you thought, what your thoughts on

00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:56.039
playing this week are. If you enjoyed it, if

00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:57.639
you recommend it, we'd like to hear from you

00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:00.659
guys. If you're Team Sega of America, let me

00:58:00.659 --> 00:58:07.519
know. Team Atlas. Team Atlas or Team Sega of

00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:12.320
America? You want to do for two or two for two

00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:15.280
right here, so I had to find a tiebreaker. Yeah

00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:18.699
Well our community what I'll pull it. I'll pull

00:58:18.699 --> 00:58:22.320
it. Yeah, there you go. Yeah All right enough

00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:23.940
of this game. We've talked enough. We should

00:58:23.940 --> 00:58:26.420
have an Instagram a page So I'll maybe I'll put

00:58:26.420 --> 00:58:28.559
it up on there. Oh, that's true. Yeah, we what

00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:34.059
is it retro gaming? RGB game club, I believe

00:58:34.059 --> 00:58:37.380
it was okay game link. Yeah, that's true. We'll

00:58:37.380 --> 00:58:40.070
put it in it openly Alright, that's enough. Let's

00:58:40.070 --> 00:58:42.309
move on from this game. We've shit on it enough.

00:58:44.510 --> 00:58:47.369
So, we're going to start to talk about our next

00:58:47.369 --> 00:58:51.210
game, which is going to be Schoon for the NES.

00:58:52.789 --> 00:58:55.030
So, let's go ahead and take a look at Schoon

00:58:55.030 --> 00:59:00.289
here. The front cover here, it's kind of a odd

00:59:00.289 --> 00:59:05.409
color choice for an NES box. It's like a black

00:59:05.409 --> 00:59:07.849
and white. And then you got a pink submarine

00:59:07.849 --> 00:59:10.449
on here shooting at, looks like an angler fish

00:59:10.449 --> 00:59:13.190
and some sharks in the background there. Yeah.

00:59:13.610 --> 00:59:17.030
Completely missing. Yeah, that's true. He must

00:59:17.030 --> 00:59:19.909
be shooting at something. But it's like, why

00:59:19.909 --> 00:59:21.429
does it look like he's in the air though? Because

00:59:21.429 --> 00:59:25.650
the sunrise is coming up. Is that just another

00:59:25.650 --> 00:59:27.889
angler fish back there? I don't know what that

00:59:27.889 --> 00:59:31.159
is. No, it looks like mountains with the sun

00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:32.920
coming in. No, it's underwater, bro. Come on.

00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:35.860
That's just the old 80s design, bro. That's how

00:59:35.860 --> 00:59:39.360
they break it up. Yeah. I like them sharks, though.

00:59:39.500 --> 00:59:41.280
Them sharks are looking good. Yeah. They're pretty

00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:44.519
cool, yeah. I like the anglerfish. He looks unhappy.

00:59:45.659 --> 00:59:48.179
Yeah. He doesn't like pink. Yeah, he's grumpy

00:59:48.179 --> 00:59:50.360
for sure. He's like, you just shot those missiles

00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:55.929
at my house, bro. Wow. This was supposed to have

00:59:55.929 --> 00:59:58.070
gone pretty deep because anglerfish live pretty

00:59:58.070 --> 01:00:02.750
deep in ocean waters. That's true. But what the

01:00:02.750 --> 01:00:07.190
hell is a schoon anyway? It's the boat. Schoon

01:00:07.190 --> 01:00:11.170
squad. What's a schoon? Schoon squad. We can't

01:00:11.170 --> 01:00:14.269
talk about schooning. Alright, let's read the

01:00:14.269 --> 01:00:18.909
back of this thing. This episode is deteriorating

01:00:18.909 --> 01:00:22.389
fast. The back of the box here, we got SOS. The

01:00:22.389 --> 01:00:25.849
world is sinking. This is the beginning of Neptunian

01:00:25.849 --> 01:00:28.469
invasion of the earth. Humans are becoming food

01:00:28.469 --> 01:00:31.769
for the aliens. You must rescue the people and

01:00:31.769 --> 01:00:34.530
bring them to safety. Destroy the hot water factories,

01:00:34.610 --> 01:00:36.849
which are making, which are melting the ice caps.

01:00:37.090 --> 01:00:39.849
Destroy the bio factories, which create the scary

01:00:39.849 --> 01:00:44.489
pirami and anchos, et cetera. Pyrami. Pyrami,

01:00:44.489 --> 01:00:48.110
anchos, et cetera. Destroy the base where hateful

01:00:48.110 --> 01:00:51.599
Neptunians live. You must rescue the Earth. SOS,

01:00:51.739 --> 01:00:54.519
SOS, the world is sinking. Neptunian invasion

01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:58.559
has begun. So I guess there's aliens from Neptune,

01:00:58.820 --> 01:01:03.800
I'm guessing here. I guess so. Maybe they're

01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:09.860
controlled by Neptune. Yeah. By the way, I just

01:01:09.860 --> 01:01:13.019
want to mention, at the top of the box or on

01:01:13.019 --> 01:01:15.909
the back, there's just this... random phg of

01:01:15.909 --> 01:01:19.250
the submarine like it looks so awkward yeah this

01:01:19.250 --> 01:01:22.570
box is weird bro there's a really weird box they

01:01:22.570 --> 01:01:24.929
spelled neptunian two different ways on here

01:01:24.929 --> 01:01:31.349
too neptunian invasion and neptunians yeah that's

01:01:31.349 --> 01:01:34.829
nice that's like good old 80s quality yeah and

01:01:34.829 --> 01:01:37.510
then they spelled it neptunian invasion again

01:01:37.510 --> 01:01:42.219
so nice gotta love it Maybe just trans -Lahitian

01:01:42.219 --> 01:01:43.860
or something? Yeah, definitely. It was just a

01:01:43.860 --> 01:01:48.639
typo. I mean, this sounds pretty cool. Yeah,

01:01:48.659 --> 01:01:52.679
it looks interesting. I don't know if Ryan and

01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:54.079
Jacob, you know the game, but me and Eric are

01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:58.739
huge fans of In the Hunt. Yeah, yeah. I don't

01:01:58.739 --> 01:02:00.500
know, I just saw some screenshots of it and it

01:02:00.500 --> 01:02:03.119
kind of reminded me of an NES version of that

01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:04.440
game. So I was like, alright, this is a good

01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:08.219
one on the list. Yeah, definitely. so yeah i

01:02:08.219 --> 01:02:10.179
mean it looks pretty cool it just looks like

01:02:10.179 --> 01:02:13.300
a you know regular shoot them up got the pictures

01:02:13.300 --> 01:02:15.400
in there too looks like it's got mermaids in

01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:19.340
it oh yeah oh yeah it's like a siren and then

01:02:19.340 --> 01:02:22.199
like an alien or something yeah that's the netpunians

01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:29.300
whoa yeah it looks like you got fuel too yeah

01:02:29.300 --> 01:02:35.320
and it's it's by irem which uh The Famicom version

01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.300
of their games had like a little light in the

01:02:37.300 --> 01:02:39.639
cartridge whenever you plugged it into the system.

01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:43.480
Oh, that's cool. Yeah. The American ones didn't

01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:45.760
have that. They were just the regular NES cartridge,

01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:48.860
but... Nah, we never got the cool stuff. Nah.

01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:53.840
For sure. Yeah, all the IREM games in Japan for

01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:55.559
the Famicom had like a light in the cartridge.

01:02:56.340 --> 01:02:59.079
Hmm. I'm gonna look that up. That's actually

01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:01.420
pretty cool. Yeah, they're pretty cool. They

01:03:01.420 --> 01:03:06.070
made In the Hunt. Who, Irem? Yeah. Did they?

01:03:06.730 --> 01:03:09.590
Yeah. I thought it was whoever made... They made

01:03:09.590 --> 01:03:12.789
Metal Slug, too? So this is a... Oh, yeah. Well,

01:03:12.809 --> 01:03:16.130
it was published by Irem, but yeah. It says developers

01:03:16.130 --> 01:03:19.230
and publishers. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. All right.

01:03:19.269 --> 01:03:21.349
Fair enough. So I think we're going to like this

01:03:21.349 --> 01:03:24.710
game. Yeah, probably. This is a predecessor to

01:03:24.710 --> 01:03:27.909
In the Hunt. Yeah, kind of, I guess, yeah. These

01:03:27.909 --> 01:03:32.489
guys really like submarine games. That's cool.

01:03:33.349 --> 01:03:35.769
I didn't know that. All right, well, cool. I

01:03:35.769 --> 01:03:37.809
mean, none of us have any experience with this

01:03:37.809 --> 01:03:40.010
game, so we'll all be playing this for the first

01:03:40.010 --> 01:03:44.510
time. Yeah, yeah. All right, well, we hope you

01:03:44.510 --> 01:03:46.969
guys out there join us, and then we'll see you

01:03:46.969 --> 01:03:49.010
for the next episode. So thanks for joining us

01:03:49.010 --> 01:03:53.170
this week, and we look forward to playing some

01:03:53.170 --> 01:03:56.730
games with you guys again. So see you. See you,

01:03:56.789 --> 01:03:57.889
guys. Peace out.