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Come in. Welcome. I'm E .G. Marshall. Welcome

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to a chilling insight into the powers of witchcraft.

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and an ancient curse. Witchcraft today is an

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end thing with the young, which may appear somewhat

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incongruous, since witches, demons, and warlocks

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are older than the beginning of recorded time.

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And somehow, despite all of society's maledictions

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and efforts to stamp it out, witchcraft has survived,

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as we will demonstrate in our spine -tingling

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tale. Do you believe in demons, Miss Bell? Frankly?

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No. Do you believe in God? Any God? Of course.

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Then you must also believe in angels. And demons,

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according to all we know about them, they are

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simply fallen angels, fixed eternally in evil.

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And although we may not know whether we are being

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fanned by airs from heaven or blasts from hell,

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It is best to be on guard. And having said that,

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I should not like to be Robert Anthony, whom

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you will meet very soon. Our mystery drama, This

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Will Kill You, was written especially for the

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Radio Mystery Theatre by Murray Burnett. and

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stars Norman Rose and Larry Haynes. Rage, my

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friends, is one of the curses of mankind. Rage

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thickens the blood, assails the eardrums, racks

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the body with a mad urge to destroy. It has been

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said that whom the gods would destroy, they first

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make mad. And that applies to all of us, even

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if some are on speaking terms with God or the

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devil. Witness a man who is consumed with rage,

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Theodore Rakatsi. Obviously, you couldn't have

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heard me come into it. What are you breaking

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things for? Are you thinking of redecorating?

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This is the wrong time to try to be amusing,

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Liz. Well, what should I do? Ask if you've gone

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crazy? Evidently, you have not read this filthy,

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ignorant, arrogant, vicious review of my book.

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Oh, of course I have. That presumptuous idiot

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Robert Anthony to write such a review. Oh, come

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off it, Ted. You know, you sound like you're

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back to the Middle Ages. What are you going to

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do, challenge him to a duel? I have other powers.

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Other resources you're serious serious after

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this review. Let me read just one part to you

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Mr. Ragazzi, possessor of an awesome reputation

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as an expert on witchcraft, in this unnecessarily

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long book titled Demons and Demonology, has gathered

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the wildest concoction of all wives' tales, superstitions

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and demons ever brought before the public. And,

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what is worse, he has given credence to them.

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To take witchcraft as seriously as Mr. Ragazzi

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does is simply childish. Ted, he's just another

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writer reviewer trying to be clever. Yes, at

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my expense. At anybody's expense. You just happen

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to be the target of the day. And now he is my

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target. For what? A nasty letter to the editor?

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For... for death. Oh, sure. If you thought this

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review was bad, wait until you see the ones you

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get after you kill him. I will not kill him.

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Oh, that's a relief. Liz, pick a date. What?

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Pick a date. Any date that comes to your mind.

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And the time. Write them down on this slip of

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paper. What for? To please me. All right. What's

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today? The 14th. Here. Okay, will this do? The

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28th. 10 .53 p .m. Yes, it will do beautifully.

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Thank you, Liz. You're welcome. And now that

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we finished playing games, can we go? Of course.

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But the game is just about to begin. Have I ever

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remarked how well you drive, Liz? Often, thank

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you. I think that's what attracted me to you

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in the first place. You're driving? and your

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legs. I'm happy to see that you're feeling better.

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Yes, due to you, as usual. I haven't done a thing.

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Oh, yes, you have. You know that date you wrote

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down for me? Yes. That is the exact date and

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time that Robert Anthony will die. Oh, sorry

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I asked. You don't believe me. Oh, I thought

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you'd forgotten about that silly review. Where

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are you going? To the party. Ted... Why did you

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ask me to write down the date? Oh, a whim. It

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amused me to leave the amount of time that Anthony

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has left to live to mere chance. Well, suppose

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I'd picked a date next year. That would have

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given Anthony more time, that's all. You sound

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so certain. I am. What's the matter with me?

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What am I talking as if there were any possibility

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that you have the power to kill another human

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being? Why, indeed. I can almost understand why

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Anthony wrote about your book the way he did.

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Of course. Like Mr. Anthony, you also are a dabbler

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in the occult. Like him, you are an innocent,

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naive, playing like children with forces you

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neither understand nor respect. How about a bet?

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On what? on me and my powers against Robert Anthony.

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Don't be ridiculous. Yes, you're afraid to trust

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your skepticism. It's very simply proven. If

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Anthony dies on the day and at the exact time

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we both know, then I win. If he doesn't, you

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are the victor. And you know once and for all

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that Theodore Eccodzi is a fraud and a cheat.

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That part tempts me. Then... I have your word.

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It is a bet. What are we betting? Your soul.

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Robert, Anthony, you're not leaving the party

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already. I'm sorry, Carla. I just dropped by

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to meet your guests, but my publishers are getting

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uptight about my new book. Well, everyone here

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is talking about the hatchet job you did on Rakatsi.

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Why do they think I've got a bone to pick with

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Rakatsi? Well, I've read a lot of reviews, but...

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Look, I've had a job to do, to review a book.

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I never even met the man. I took off because

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his book was so ponderous. Instead of writing

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a history of demons and demonology, which would

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be interesting, Rakatsi wrote as if he were putting

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down facts. Sorry if I touched a nerd. It's all

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right, forget it. I just think there's entirely

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too much fuss about the review. I know a little

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about witchcraft and I think it can be amusing,

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but... Okay, but I hear Rakatsi's taking it very

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big. Well, I don't want to hear that Rakatsi's

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out to get me with the same crazy, demonic, cursed,

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superstitious idiots believe it. Well, let's

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forget Rakatsi. What about that play we cooked

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up? Well, I just told you, Carl, my publishers

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are getting restless. I'm spending most of my

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time in the library. Look, can we put it off

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for a week or two? Okay. Fine. I've got to run.

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But I'll call, Carl. Just to let you know I'm

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still alive. This is Jennifer Bell and another

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broadcast of The Author Speaks. My guest for

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today is the man who has written the most controversial

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book about devils and devil tree, Theodore Rokotsy.

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I am happy to be here. Mr. Rokotsy, I must confess

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your book scared the daylights out of me. Was

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that your intention? No, not at all. My intention

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was to inform, to let people know that there

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are forces in this world that they may not have

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been aware of. Oh, well. Then you're serious

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in your thesis about demons and their powers.

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Oh, absolutely. Which naturally leads me to that

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review by Robert Anthony. How did you feel about

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it? Well, I would be less than honest if I said

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I was pleased, but it caused me only a small

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annoyance. Really? You are asking the wrong question.

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Oh? Well, then set me straight. You should not

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ask if I were annoyed about it, but... rather

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how Uziel Rabdus Belet are angry about their

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powers being mocked. Well, I'm not acquainted

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with those gentlemen you mentioned. Which is

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just as well for you. You see, they are demons.

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Powerful demons. And if they take offense, well,

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I should not like to be Mr. Robert Anthony. You're

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predicting that some harm might come to Robert

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Anthony? I predict nothing. Forgive me, but didn't

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you just issue a warning? A warning is not a

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prediction. Do you believe in demons, Miss Bell?

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Frankly, no. Do you believe in God? Any God?

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Of course. Good. Then of course you must believe

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in angels. And demons, according to all we know

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about them, are simply fallen angels, turned

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away from God, fixed eternally in evil. I would

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like to inform you, madam, that a belief in the

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existence of angels and demons is an article

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of faith with two of our major world religions.

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All I say is that I should not like to be in

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the company of Robert Anthony during the next

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month. Good morning. I see you have my books

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waiting for me. Those five over there. Thank

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you. Today I want to finish my research. I'm

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going to miss the peace and quiet of this library.

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My name is Theodore Ragazzi. I called about a

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book you said you would have waiting. Ah, yes.

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Thank you. Oh, excuse me. Yes? It sounds absurd,

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I know, but I am superstitious about where I

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sit. when I work here. Also, the light. Oh, yes,

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it's okay. Sit right down. Oh, yes, you're so

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kind. Oh, I'm so sorry. Forgive my clumsiness.

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I've knocked your books down. Let me help you.

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It's all right. I can pick them up. I cannot

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think how I could be so clumsy. Maybe I should

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wear glasses. Don't worry about it. Accidents

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happen. Yes, of course. Oh, this... Piece of

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paper is yours, I believe. Oh, thank you. Is

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something wrong? You keep looking over your shoulder.

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No, no, no. It's nothing. I don't feel well.

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It'll pass. Oh, yes, of course. Sir, can I have...

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No, I think I need a little fresh air. Oh, yes,

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of course. Sir, your books. Oh, forget them.

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I'll be back when I feel better. I've got to

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slow down. I must slow down. There's nothing

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following me, nothing. Now that's better. Get

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some control. What's the matter with me? Why

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do I feel I'm being followed? That I'm going

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to get away. What's with you? Trying to get yourself

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killed? I guess it looked like it, didn't it?

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Well... No, it's nothing, Carl. Believe me, I...

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I was in the library and suddenly I had a crazy

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impulse to start running. Bob, what's the trouble?

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Nothing, nothing. There's no trouble. It's just

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that... What do you expect to find over your

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shoulder? Nothing, nothing. If I didn't know

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that your last novel sold over a million I'd

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say you just held up a bank and we're running

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away look forget the jokes, huh? I'm sorry. I'm

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sorry. I really am calm But leave me alone Whom

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the gods would destroy they first make mad But

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are the gods desirous of destroying Robert Anthony

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or the demons? And who are the demons that are

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driving him? I'll be back shortly with Act Two.

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I am back to lead you along the dark roads of

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witchcraft. The demon -ridden Robert Anthony

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has turned to the twentieth century remedy against

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magical spells, psychiatry, and is attempting

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to explain his terror to an eminent psychiatrist.

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How can I make you understand, doctor, how intensely

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real this fear is? I'm not imagining it. It's

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there. I feel it. Every minute I feel it. It's

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at my shoulder, behind my back, pressing in on

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me. Of course. Have you ever heard of anything

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like this before? Nothing exactly similar, but

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fear is quite common. Most people are afraid

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of something. But don't they know what they're

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afraid of? They sometimes think they do. And

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what do you tell them? I think it would be best

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if you talk about yourself. You say you first

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felt this way about a week ago. Yes, yes. I was

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working in the library and I suddenly felt I

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just had to get out and run. Had anything happened

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that day to upset you? Anything out of the ordinary?

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No, no, nothing. Nothing, Doctor. Have you felt

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this fear before? I mean, early in your life.

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Well, just the usual, Doctor. You know, when

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my friends would dare me to jump over a large

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hole in the ground or something like that, but...

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Wait. Yes? Yes, I just remember it. When I went

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to college, there was a suspension bridge, a

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shortcut from the campus to my dormitory. Everyone

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took it. Well, one night I was with some friends,

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and we came to the bridge, and it was out. There

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was only one single plank, and this was a deep,

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deep chasm, doctor, maybe 100 feet. Yes. Well,

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I wanted to go back to walk around it, but the

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others voted against that. They all walked across.

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And I can remember how terrified I was. I got

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down on my hands and knees and crawled across

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the single plank with the water. roaring below

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me. I was terrified. You're afraid of heights.

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Well, I'm not comfortable with them, but... Would

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you say that today you're somewhere near the

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height of your profession as a writer? Oh, come

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on, Doctor. This has nothing to do with any fear

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of heights. This is... Well, this is... Yes?

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This is witchcraft. Interesting. Why do you say

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that? Look, we've been through it. The review

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you wrote on the Rakatsi book Demons and Demonology?

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Right. Are you sorry you wrote such a scathing

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review? No. No? Well, I... I don't know. I think

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you are. Well, if I was wrong and possibly there

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are such demons and spells as Rakatsi describes

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in his book, that would or might account for

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this fear of mine, wouldn't it? You mean you

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think Rakatsi might have put a spill on you?

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Well, it's possible, isn't it? Can't you think

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of another explanation? Can you? Yes. Let's examine

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what you've told me. On the one hand, you believe

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that Ragazzi has put some sort of a spell on

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you, am I correct? That's all I can think of,

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doctor. Why would he do that? Well, because he...

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Exactly. Because you have hurt him severely.

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So your statement that he wasn't injured by your

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review is false, isn't it? Well... Or illogical.

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All right, it would seem so. Very well. You admit

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that to yourself. And then think that as a sensitive

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man, you've satisfied your own ego with a review

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that you think might be unfair. Where does that

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take us? Doctor, do you believe that I feel so

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guilty that I run through the streets pursued

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by shadows? That I can't sleep because I feel

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a presence in my room? That I feel threatened

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every second of the day and it's getting worse

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by the minute? Do you really believe that? It's

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a possibility. Oh, no, no. You'd rather believe

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in witchcraft. Why? Doctor, you're not helping

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me. If you'll examine your motive as to why you

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insist that Rakatsu has some power to cast a

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spell over you, then I think... All right, I'm

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getting out of here. That won't help. Neither

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do you. I tell you, I feel that I'm gonna die

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and you talk about guilt? I'm getting out. Desperate

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men take desperate measures, and Robert Anthony

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was desperate. As he ran from what he thought

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pursued him, he held on to the last of his sanity.

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In his dabbling in witchcraft, he had heard,

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as had everyone interested in diabolism, of Professor

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Thurman Anderson, an outstanding scholar and

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acknowledged authority in the field. Professor

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on Ritza. Yes, I'm Robert Anthony. Oh come in.

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I've been expecting you You have why because

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I read your review and I know rickertsy. Oh Then

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you think he might have done something to me.

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I think it probable that he has tried I won't

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know until you tell me what's happened Come in

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and sit down. Thank you Professor do you Do you

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think you can help? First, tell me why you think

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Rakotsi has cast a spell. Because as I sit here

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talking to you, I'm eaten up by fear. I have

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a feeling that something is following me, Professor.

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Something so terrible that I can't even imagine

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what it is. But I'm certain. I'm certain that

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it's gonna kill me. How long have you had this

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feeling? About a week. And can you remember when

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you first felt it? Oh, yes, very vividly. It

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was... In the library, I... Do you know, Rokotsi?

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No. No spell can be put upon you unless the creator

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has some contact with you. Did you meet him by

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chance, perhaps? Well, I don't know. No, I don't

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think so. I haven't been very social this past

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week. I can't even begin to think what it could

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be unless you give me something to go on. Did

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you have a chance encounter with anyone? Did

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a stranger bump into you, perhaps? No, no, I...

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I... Oh, wait, wait. Yes? In the library, there

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was a man, a man with a slight accent. Because

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he has an accent. Well, I remember he came over

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and asked if he could sit next to me, and as

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he sat down, he knocked over my books. He apologized.

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And he insisted on picking them up. Anything

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else? No. Yes, yes. Yes, he gave me a piece of

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paper. You took it? Well, of course. I didn't

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remember whether I had actually dropped it or

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not. Do you have it? Well, yes, because I remember

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looking at it when I got home and wondering what

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it was. It just didn't make any sense to me.

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Well, can I see it? Well, sure. There you are.

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What is it, Professor? What do you see? The casting

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of the runes. What? What does that mean? I can't

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believe that even a man as vindictive as Ragazzi

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would do this. Professor, what is it? You see

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this writing? Yes. It is the runic alphabet.

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It represents an ancient death curse. And those

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figures on it? The date of your death That's

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ridiculous. It was used many centuries ago There

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are stories of younger brothers using it to eliminate

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the rightful heir to the throne It has earned

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the reputation of being one of the most powerful

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of all the ancient spells The drawback of course

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was the absolute necessity of having the man

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or woman casting the runes to pass the curse

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on directly and have it accepted. Oh no, I won't

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believe that. This is the 20th century. Careful!

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Careful! Lose this paper and you lose your only

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chance. Chance? You mean there's something I

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can do? One thing. What is it? Pass the curse

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to someone else. This is unbelievable. If someone

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else told me about this conversation, I'd say

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we were both fit subjects for an insane asylum.

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Oh, no, I can't go on this way. Professor, how

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do I go about passing this on? You have someone

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in mind? Do I have to know a person? No, you

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could pass it to a stranger. Well, how? Simply

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brush up against someone in the street or on

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a bus or subway See that he drops something then

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pick it up and along with the package you pass

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this piece of paper saying I believe this is

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yours when they accept it They have it and you

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are rid of it. Oh, no, I couldn't do that to

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anybody I just couldn't why not if you don't

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believe in the curse. I don't know about the

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curse Can't believe that it will actually kill

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anyone, but I know how I feel that's that is

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very real and horrible How much time do I have

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today is the 23rd the date here is the 28 1053

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p .m. It's not a lot of time is there plenty

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if you start to pass it now. No, I just can't

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professor I wouldn't give this to my worst enemy,

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let alone... Hold it, hold it. How about... Rakatsi?

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I wondered how long you would take before you

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got around to that. Yes, of course. I'll pass

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it back to him. How? Well, I'll just... Exactly.

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Rakatsi obviously knows you. He is going to be

00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:47.460
on his guard. Well, can someone else pass it?

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No. It must be passed directly. There must be

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a way. Hello? Liz, Bob Anthony. Oh. Liz, I must

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see you. I don't understand. I hate to sound

00:25:13.109 --> 00:25:15.029
like an old -fashioned melodrama but it really

00:25:15.029 --> 00:25:17.839
is a matter of life and death. All right. Right?

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Where shall we meet? Um, someplace where we can

00:25:21.579 --> 00:25:24.460
talk. How about, uh, the Sheddies? Oh, I don't

00:25:24.460 --> 00:25:26.220
think we should be seen together. Well, that's

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not the kind of talk I had in mind, Liz. I know.

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I still don't think we should be seen together.

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You... you know? How? How about the cafeteria

00:25:36.339 --> 00:25:38.819
at the zoo? Yeah, okay, but Liz... Half an hour.

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Okay? See you. No, you're not. I'm early. What

00:25:50.349 --> 00:25:52.869
would you like? Oh, just coffee. All right, I'll

00:25:52.869 --> 00:25:55.529
get it for you. No, no, I really don't want anything.

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Why did you call me? Liz, you wouldn't be surprised

00:26:01.569 --> 00:26:04.369
and go all girlish on me if I tell you it's because

00:26:04.369 --> 00:26:08.069
of your relationship with Rakatsi. No. Okay.

00:26:10.170 --> 00:26:14.130
This is gonna sound crazy. Well, try me. Liz,

00:26:14.150 --> 00:26:16.950
I have to know everything you know about Rakatsi,

00:26:16.950 --> 00:26:19.569
not personal things, but... His schedule, his

00:26:19.569 --> 00:26:22.470
plans, that sort of thing. Oh. It's terribly

00:26:22.470 --> 00:26:26.390
important, Liz. Yes. You're not going to ask

00:26:26.390 --> 00:26:29.609
me why? No. When I said it was a matter of life

00:26:29.609 --> 00:26:31.650
and death, I meant that. You'll have to believe

00:26:31.650 --> 00:26:35.089
me, Liz. Well, I do. You're entitled to an explanation.

00:26:35.769 --> 00:26:41.890
And then... You do? Yes. You know, I'm making

00:26:41.890 --> 00:26:44.250
a fool of myself. I'm talking to the wrong person.

00:26:45.109 --> 00:26:47.859
I just never even... considered for a moment

00:26:47.859 --> 00:26:50.759
that you'd be in it with them. I'm not. But you

00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.539
know, you know what I'm talking about. Yes. Well,

00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:56.359
how? I'd rather not discuss it. Well, you've

00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:58.640
got to, Liz. Don't you see that? Isn't it enough

00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:01.420
for you to know that I realize you're in trouble

00:27:01.420 --> 00:27:03.680
and I want to help? All right, now it's my turn

00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.380
to ask why. No comment. But Liz... You're wasting

00:27:07.380 --> 00:27:10.880
time in arguing. What can I do? I've already

00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.920
told you. But don't you see that I'll feel better

00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:17.279
if... If you can trust me? Yes, exactly. This

00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.759
isn't just fun and games for me, Liz, it's...

00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:27.319
It's... your life. Then you are in on it, huh?

00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:35.500
Look, I know about it. I'm involved, but I have

00:27:35.500 --> 00:27:39.920
as much to lose as you. Maybe more. And that's

00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:42.900
all I'm going to say. Do you think he can do

00:27:42.900 --> 00:27:48.200
it? More important, what makes you think he can?

00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.880
Everything I know tells me he could not. But...

00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:54.700
Everything I know, everything I've learned, everything

00:27:54.700 --> 00:27:57.900
that science says doesn't help stop the terrible

00:27:57.900 --> 00:28:00.500
feeling I have that something, something is after

00:28:00.500 --> 00:28:03.740
me, Liz. It's just waiting, waiting until it

00:28:03.740 --> 00:28:08.240
has a... 10 .53 p .m. on the 28th. That's the

00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:12.359
date. What makes you think I can help? I have

00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:15.500
one chance to break whatever spell Rakatsi has

00:28:15.500 --> 00:28:17.720
put on me. And what's that? It's just a slim

00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:21.039
chance, Liz, but a chance. Just take my word

00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:26.920
for that. If you do want to help, get me the

00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.940
information I want and need. I'll try. How do

00:28:30.940 --> 00:28:34.180
I reach you? Here, this number, any time, day

00:28:34.180 --> 00:28:36.259
or night. If I'm not there, I'll get back to

00:28:36.259 --> 00:28:38.480
you in five minutes. I'll try. Thanks, thanks.

00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:49.700
And Liz... Yes? We haven't got much time. Time

00:28:49.700 --> 00:28:53.460
is running out on Robert Anthony. Whatever it

00:28:53.460 --> 00:28:56.460
is that's following him, or what he honestly

00:28:56.460 --> 00:28:59.759
believes to be following him, has a target date.

00:29:00.660 --> 00:29:17.039
I'll be back shortly with Act 3. Let us get back

00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.099
with Robert Anthony under a spell and Convinced

00:29:21.099 --> 00:29:25.599
that he has now only 24 hours to live The date

00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:31.180
set for his death is 1053 p .m. On the 28th and

00:29:31.180 --> 00:29:35.980
it is now the afternoon of the 27th and Theodore

00:29:35.980 --> 00:29:40.440
rickazzi has a visitor Liz come in my dear come

00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:43.019
in I took the chance that you'd be home. Yes,

00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:45.920
and I am and I'm delighted Of course, I shan't

00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:48.680
be home for long. As you can see, my bags are

00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:51.180
all packed. Where are you going? To my little

00:29:51.180 --> 00:29:54.539
hideaway up in Perdis. You remember it? Of course.

00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:56.859
As a matter of fact, your dropping in might be

00:29:56.859 --> 00:29:59.579
called providential. I was going to call you

00:29:59.579 --> 00:30:02.799
to ask you to drive me. When are you leaving?

00:30:03.180 --> 00:30:06.839
Tomorrow night. Fairly early. I think it would

00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.519
be wise for me to be out of the city when Anthony

00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:14.140
meets the demons. I'll call it off, Ted. I beg

00:30:14.140 --> 00:30:17.599
your pardon? I'm asking you to call it off. Call

00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:20.920
what off, dear Liz? You're much too modern and

00:30:20.920 --> 00:30:23.460
liberated, a young woman, actually to believe

00:30:23.460 --> 00:30:27.140
in demons, or even more fantastic, that, uh,

00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:30.319
that I can control them. Don't fence with me,

00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:34.960
Ted. Call it off. I wonder if I talked with Anthony

00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.819
today, would he write the same review of my book

00:30:38.819 --> 00:30:42.150
all over again? Or, uh, would he have a more

00:30:42.150 --> 00:30:45.549
open mind? Why don't you ask him? I would like

00:30:45.549 --> 00:30:48.849
to. I would very much like to, but, uh, well,

00:30:48.849 --> 00:30:51.829
it's not practical. By the way, you haven't said

00:30:51.829 --> 00:30:55.630
you would drive me up to Perdis. I cannot. I'm

00:30:55.630 --> 00:31:00.549
sorry. Ted, I really want... Cannot? Liz, have

00:31:00.549 --> 00:31:03.910
you forgotten our little wager? No. Don't you

00:31:03.910 --> 00:31:06.549
think you might owe it to me to be with me when

00:31:06.549 --> 00:31:10.269
we hear the news of Anthony's death? Ted... I'm

00:31:10.269 --> 00:31:13.170
asking you to call it off. Your bet or... The

00:31:13.170 --> 00:31:17.009
whole thing. My dear, I would like to. I would

00:31:17.009 --> 00:31:19.230
really like to please you. Well, then... There

00:31:19.230 --> 00:31:24.230
are others involved. I don't understand. When

00:31:24.230 --> 00:31:27.829
you call upon these forces for help, you're taking

00:31:27.829 --> 00:31:31.009
a very serious step. It is understood that you're

00:31:31.009 --> 00:31:35.390
not indulging a whim. These forces do not like

00:31:35.390 --> 00:31:39.599
the idea of being used carelessly. They are not

00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:42.759
to be toyed with. I'm sure you could do something.

00:31:43.059 --> 00:31:47.299
It's really amazing how you have come full circle

00:31:47.299 --> 00:31:51.039
in your belief in my powers. Would it help if

00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:54.839
I said I believe everything you claim? It would

00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:59.589
be an immeasurable aid to my ego. I mean... Would

00:31:59.589 --> 00:32:03.190
it help change your mind about Anthony? I admire

00:32:03.190 --> 00:32:06.509
you not asking to get out of our wager. I sincerely

00:32:06.509 --> 00:32:10.170
admire you for that. Oh, save your admiration.

00:32:11.109 --> 00:32:14.390
I'm not asking to be released. I'm telling you

00:32:14.390 --> 00:32:17.230
that I'm not going through with it. Oh, you disappoint

00:32:17.230 --> 00:32:21.410
me, Liz. You really do. But I don't think you

00:32:21.410 --> 00:32:25.250
can withdraw. I can do what I want. And I don't

00:32:25.250 --> 00:32:27.450
want to play this game any longer. You have no

00:32:27.450 --> 00:32:31.670
choice. But I do. We're talking now about my

00:32:31.670 --> 00:32:34.829
soul. I don't know whether a person has a soul

00:32:34.829 --> 00:32:38.470
or not. Take my word for it, Liz. You have a

00:32:38.470 --> 00:32:42.150
soul. Oh, fine. But it's mine. And I'm not giving

00:32:42.150 --> 00:32:44.349
it to anyone. You have already committed yourself.

00:32:44.470 --> 00:32:47.589
To what? To a bet made on the spur of the moment

00:32:47.589 --> 00:32:50.519
and not in any seriousness. I only made it to

00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.920
keep you happy. Whatever your motives, you made

00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:56.440
it. I intend to hold you to it. Hold me to what?

00:32:57.180 --> 00:32:59.940
An oral agreement? In the circles in which I

00:32:59.940 --> 00:33:04.059
move, it is binding. And I say no. That is most

00:33:04.059 --> 00:33:07.079
unwise. Are you threatening me? Of course. I

00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:09.539
think you should know that I will be powerless

00:33:09.539 --> 00:33:12.440
to help if you should change your mind. I'll

00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:14.619
remember that. I advise you to keep it very strongly

00:33:14.619 --> 00:33:19.009
in mind and along those lines. You won't change

00:33:19.009 --> 00:33:21.890
your mind about driving me to Perdis? I can't,

00:33:22.049 --> 00:33:25.930
really. Then I shall have to take the train.

00:33:26.089 --> 00:33:28.289
That seems obvious. I'm going to ask another

00:33:28.289 --> 00:33:31.009
favor. For your own sake, it is necessary that

00:33:31.009 --> 00:33:33.950
you be with me the day after I have won my wager.

00:33:35.109 --> 00:33:37.309
I would take it kindly if you would get me a

00:33:37.309 --> 00:33:41.269
ticket on the 9 .30 to Perdis. Ted, I... I believe

00:33:41.269 --> 00:33:44.329
there is such a train. And then I'll give you

00:33:44.329 --> 00:33:47.210
the keys to my car, and you can drive up the

00:33:47.210 --> 00:33:49.289
following day. What makes you think that... Because

00:33:49.289 --> 00:33:51.069
of our relationship, I've been extraordinarily

00:33:51.069 --> 00:33:55.609
patient with you, Liz. Now, you will do me these

00:33:55.609 --> 00:34:00.950
favors. It may predispose me to have more patience

00:34:00.950 --> 00:34:14.320
with you on the day my wager is due. Oh, Liz,

00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:15.820
I've been waiting for your call. Do you have

00:34:15.820 --> 00:34:17.699
anything for me? I don't know whether or not

00:34:17.699 --> 00:34:21.159
it helps, but he's taking the 930 train to Purdy's

00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:24.599
on the 28th. The 930? That doesn't give me much

00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.800
time. For what? For what I have to do. Liz, that

00:34:27.800 --> 00:34:29.960
makes it so close. Are you sure about the train

00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:32.780
and the time? Positive. I bought the ticket myself.

00:34:33.059 --> 00:34:36.099
930, huh? Yes. Now, that's gonna be awfully close.

00:34:37.099 --> 00:34:39.059
Did he give any reason for picking that particular

00:34:39.059 --> 00:34:41.400
train? Well, first he asked me to drive him up.

00:34:46.090 --> 00:34:50.389
What what did he say Liz everything is important.

00:34:50.409 --> 00:35:05.750
What did he say? Yeah sure that makes sense Yes

00:35:05.750 --> 00:35:14.630
Liz I'm trying A lot better now than before you

00:35:14.630 --> 00:35:20.829
called Yes, pray for me. And you for me. What?

00:35:22.250 --> 00:35:24.409
Why? How are you involved? Forget I said that.

00:35:24.650 --> 00:35:26.969
How can I forget it? Believe me, if I tell you

00:35:26.969 --> 00:35:32.269
that my problem is... Well, it has something

00:35:32.269 --> 00:35:36.650
to do with you. But I'll be okay if you're okay.

00:35:36.789 --> 00:35:38.949
Oh, you sound like a book title. Well, at least

00:35:38.949 --> 00:35:41.250
you can joke. I hope it isn't gallows humor.

00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:44.760
Liz, I've got a lot to do. I have a plan. I don't

00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.360
know whether it'll work, but it's made me feel

00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.360
that I can do something. And I'm gonna do it.

00:35:49.820 --> 00:36:01.219
Good luck. Bob Anthony! I didn't believe it when

00:36:01.219 --> 00:36:04.019
you called. How can I help you? I need a makeup

00:36:04.019 --> 00:36:07.440
job. For a TV appearance? No, no, no, no. I must

00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.159
be disguised so that even my own mother wouldn't

00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:12.699
know me. Can you do that? Well, maybe if you

00:36:12.699 --> 00:36:15.179
tell me what it's for, it might help. No, I can't

00:36:15.179 --> 00:36:16.840
tell you. You'll have to take my word that it's

00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.260
deadly serious. How long will you need to wear

00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:24.019
the disguise? Four hours at the outside. How

00:36:24.019 --> 00:36:26.940
many people do you want to fool? One. A man.

00:36:29.019 --> 00:36:31.699
How well does he know you? Well, that's hard

00:36:31.699 --> 00:36:33.760
to say. He's not an intimate friend. In fact,

00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:37.579
I only met him once, but he knew me then. Yeah,

00:36:37.579 --> 00:36:41.099
I want one more question. How does this guy think

00:36:41.099 --> 00:36:43.239
of you? Oh, I suppose he sees me as a young,

00:36:43.579 --> 00:36:46.380
smart aleck. Good, good. So we have to make you

00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:54.719
old. Step into my parlor. Okay. Aren't you gonna

00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:00.300
lock it? Okay. Sit in that chair over there.

00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:05.039
Now relax. You're too tense. I'm sorry. See now,

00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.510
the hairpiece is no problem. Your head and hairline

00:37:08.510 --> 00:37:15.170
are easy, but the eyes. The eyes? Exactly. With

00:37:15.170 --> 00:37:17.949
the hair you have, you can't have those alert

00:37:17.949 --> 00:37:24.230
brown eyes. Let me see. Watery blue with little

00:37:24.230 --> 00:37:30.530
veins running through them. Okay now, ever wear

00:37:30.530 --> 00:37:34.530
contact lenses? No, of course not. You'll love

00:37:34.530 --> 00:37:40.980
them. Slight effort. There. How's your vision?

00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:45.800
Well, I can see. Good, good. The wrinkles come

00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.639
last and I think a little goatee. Yeah, yeah,

00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.420
yeah. Bushy beard wouldn't be right. Now just

00:37:54.420 --> 00:38:03.179
put your head back. Grand Central Station in

00:38:03.179 --> 00:38:06.719
New York City at nine o 'clock. of any evening

00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:11.599
is a dreary place. The waves of homebound commuters

00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:15.719
have washed away. The garish light serves only

00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:20.460
to point up the cruel deterioration of past grandeurs.

00:38:21.460 --> 00:38:25.559
The waiting rooms are almost empty. It was nine

00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.820
-twenty exactly that Robert Anthony, carrying

00:38:28.820 --> 00:38:32.860
a small suitcase and disguised as an old man,

00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:36.099
walked slowly up to the ticket window. Mount

00:38:36.099 --> 00:38:39.800
Kisco one way please. Anthony walked slowly to

00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:42.940
the station platform where the 9 .30 was about

00:38:42.940 --> 00:38:47.019
to depart. He wanted to be almost the last one

00:38:47.019 --> 00:38:50.079
to board the train so that he could locate the

00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.599
car that Rokatsi had selected. He boarded the

00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:57.219
train and passed through several cars and then

00:38:57.219 --> 00:39:02.329
his pounding heart slowed. He saw Rokatsi. seated

00:39:02.329 --> 00:39:05.670
in the middle of the car and with a seat next

00:39:05.670 --> 00:39:09.250
to him vacant. Excuse me, would you mind if I

00:39:09.250 --> 00:39:12.130
put my police on the rack? Oh, not at all. Let

00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:14.909
me help you. Oh, that's very kind of you. Not

00:39:14.909 --> 00:39:20.019
at all. Well, you certainly got that close. I'm

00:39:20.019 --> 00:39:22.480
afraid I don't walk as quickly as I used to.

00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.480
It's hard to get accustomed to growing old. Yes,

00:39:25.500 --> 00:39:29.860
I suppose it is. I hope you'll forgive an old

00:39:29.860 --> 00:39:33.219
man's curiosity, but that book you're reading...

00:39:33.219 --> 00:39:37.199
The Dynamics of Witchcraft. Yes, yes, that subject

00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:41.320
has always fascinated me. Me too. Did you ever

00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:46.989
study it? No, no, but when I was younger... Halloween

00:39:46.989 --> 00:39:50.690
was my favorite holiday. You know, dressing up

00:39:50.690 --> 00:39:53.469
and trick -or -treating. Yes, yes, I know. Oh,

00:39:53.670 --> 00:39:57.889
that was such great fun. Yes, yes. Well, I won't

00:39:57.889 --> 00:40:00.389
disturb you anymore. I know you're anxious to

00:40:00.389 --> 00:40:03.929
get on with your reading, but... Where are you

00:40:03.929 --> 00:40:07.670
getting off? Purgis. Is that before or after

00:40:07.670 --> 00:40:11.829
Mount Kisco? After. I wonder... I mean, I have

00:40:11.829 --> 00:40:14.889
a tendency to drowse off, you know. I wonder

00:40:14.889 --> 00:40:18.150
if when we reach Mount Kisco... Yes, yes, I will

00:40:18.150 --> 00:40:33.139
let you know. Excuse me, is it? It's the next

00:40:33.139 --> 00:40:36.780
station. Did you have a nice nap? Oh, yes. Yes,

00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:41.639
very refreshing. Thank you. I do hope my nephew

00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:43.920
will be at the station. Yes, I'm sure he will.

00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:49.019
What time is it? 20 past 10. Are we on time?

00:40:49.260 --> 00:40:52.460
I don't know. I suppose so, but even if we're

00:40:52.460 --> 00:40:54.500
running late, I'm sure your nephew will wait.

00:40:54.619 --> 00:40:57.900
Yes, I hope so. When you get old, you seem to

00:40:57.900 --> 00:41:00.420
worry about everything. The young have their

00:41:00.420 --> 00:41:02.420
worries. But they're not the same, are they?

00:41:02.900 --> 00:41:07.039
Sometimes they are. Sometimes a young man can

00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.500
worry himself almost to death. That seems such

00:41:10.500 --> 00:41:16.010
a waste. Or even worry about dying. Yes. I have

00:41:16.010 --> 00:41:18.929
known some young people who are simply terrified

00:41:18.929 --> 00:41:21.769
of dying. Oh, I didn't think the young gave much

00:41:21.769 --> 00:41:24.150
thought to death. Oh, some of them do. Some of

00:41:24.150 --> 00:41:27.230
them do indeed. Take my word for it. Well, it

00:41:27.230 --> 00:41:30.409
seems strange. Strange? Old man, I could tell

00:41:30.409 --> 00:41:34.530
you stories that are beyond belief. Stories that...

00:41:34.530 --> 00:41:38.469
Well, I seem to be talking a lot. Well, I enjoy

00:41:38.469 --> 00:41:40.789
it. Thank you, but we're coming into Montkisco.

00:41:40.989 --> 00:41:44.400
Oh, well, I've enjoyed talking to you. And now

00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:49.159
I'll just get my luggage from the rack. Oh, my.

00:41:49.739 --> 00:41:51.880
Look what I've done. I've dropped my bag. Let

00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.199
me help you. No, no, no. I've caused you too

00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:58.400
much trouble. I'll be able to... Oh, your book.

00:41:59.389 --> 00:42:01.750
I just seem to make things worse. If you would

00:42:01.750 --> 00:42:03.730
let me do it, it would be much simpler. Oh, yes,

00:42:03.769 --> 00:42:06.010
yes, thank you, thank you, thank you. But don't

00:42:06.010 --> 00:42:09.489
let me return your book. I believe this is yours.

00:42:09.590 --> 00:42:11.730
Yes, yes, and now you'd better start if you want

00:42:11.730 --> 00:42:13.889
to get off and meet your nephew. Yes, yes, goodbye,

00:42:14.269 --> 00:42:20.170
and thank you. Wait, what? You... you bastard!

00:42:20.650 --> 00:42:24.309
The paper! Please! Go off me! My nephew! Stop

00:42:24.309 --> 00:42:26.650
acting! You're Anthony! I know it! Yes, you're

00:42:26.650 --> 00:42:28.909
right. And I'm getting off here! Not until you

00:42:28.909 --> 00:42:30.789
tell me where you hid the curse! That paper you

00:42:30.789 --> 00:42:32.869
passed to me! Miss your train! Damn the train!

00:42:33.010 --> 00:42:35.869
Where is it? The paper! I'll do anything. But

00:42:35.869 --> 00:42:38.010
you know how close it is. This very little time,

00:42:38.190 --> 00:42:40.190
I beg you, please, for the love of God! Tell

00:42:40.190 --> 00:42:41.949
me where you put that paper! It's in the book.

00:42:42.190 --> 00:42:43.869
I slipped it in the book when I gave it back

00:42:43.869 --> 00:42:46.969
to him. The book! The book! Where? Where? Oh!

00:42:47.210 --> 00:42:49.989
My God! Catch it! Catch it, Anthony! Grab it!

00:42:50.010 --> 00:42:52.170
No way, Roccozzi! Get it yourself! It's blowing

00:42:52.170 --> 00:42:54.610
away! You know I'm lost if I don't get that paper!

00:42:55.809 --> 00:43:00.170
Come back! Come back! I'll get you! Roccozzi!

00:43:00.469 --> 00:43:12.989
Look out! The train! The end of our story of

00:43:12.989 --> 00:43:17.110
witchcraft and demons. The obituary notice said

00:43:17.110 --> 00:43:21.090
that Theodore Ricazzi met his death when he inexplicably

00:43:21.090 --> 00:43:24.510
ran in front of a southbound express at the Mount

00:43:24.510 --> 00:43:30.369
Kisco station. Inexplicably? I'll be back shortly.

00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:46.119
I'm sure we all know what the forces were that

00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:48.940
made Theodore Racazzi run in front of the train

00:43:48.940 --> 00:43:52.699
that killed him. He panicked because of a superstitious

00:43:52.699 --> 00:43:56.000
belief in the supernatural. That, of course,

00:43:56.000 --> 00:44:02.440
is the explanation. Or is it? Our cast included

00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:06.199
Norman Rose, Larry Haynes, E .V. Juster, Roger

00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.800
DeKoven, and Gil Mack. The entire production

00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:12.960
was under the direction of Hyman Brown. This

00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:15.760
is EG Marshall inviting you to return to our

00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:18.940
mystery theater for another adventure in the

00:44:18.940 --> 00:44:25.079
macabre until next time pleasant dreams
