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After food and water, the greatest need in every

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human heart is to be deeply loved, valued, and

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accepted just for who we are. Here's the question.

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How do you get that kind of love? That's what

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we'll explore today. Welcome to this weekend

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edition of Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram.

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The mission of this daily program is to intentionally

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disciple Christians through the insightful Bible

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teaching of Chip Ingram. In this past week, we

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wrapped up his popular series on seven fundamental

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characteristics of God called The Real God. So

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today, we're revisiting Chip's message on God's

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love, an attribute we tend to focus on a lot.

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But in this message, Chip takes us on a journey

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to better understand and appreciate this attribute

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in a way we may never have before. He has a lot

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to share, so let's get going. Here now is Chip

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with his message, The Love of God. I don't think

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I could make the statement, what the world needs

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now is love, sweet love. It's what everyone needs,

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what everyone wants. I don't think I could get

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hardly a person in the world to raise their hand

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and say, excuse me, I disagree. We don't need

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any more love. People being kind to one another,

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forgiving one another, taking care of each other,

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family staying together, people being sensitive.

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I'll tell you what, we got enough of that as

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there is. Now, think this through though. If

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universally we agree that the world needs love,

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And we all need to be loved. Why is there such

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little love? It's kind of amazing, isn't it?

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I put a little statement of three facts about

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love. Fact number one, it's a universal need.

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We are all looking for love. Fact number two

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is there's a universal solution to the universal

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need. God loves all people everywhere and longs

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to meet the deepest needs of their heart for

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love. Fact number three, we have a universal

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disconnect. There's a tragic disconnection. You

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have this unbelievable need and this supernatural,

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unlimited, boundless availability. And nevertheless,

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most people remain starved for love. They're

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starved for love. And there's three reasons.

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Some people have no idea that God cares for them

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and loves them. Some of those people have tasted

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and they know about God's love, but they've not

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received it. And then there's a whole nother

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set of people that at least once or twice, they

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had this experience and for the life of them,

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they don't know how to touch it or taste it again.

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I would say that's at least a decent picture

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of a universal need. A universal solution and

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a very tragic disconnect among both believers

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and unbelievers. Brennan Manning in his little

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book called Abba's Child quotes Henry Nowen and

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talks about what's the root cause behind Christians

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not experiencing the love of God. I think his

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words are instructive. Nowen writes, over the

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years I've come to realize that the greatest

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trap in our life is not success, popularity,

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or power, but self -rejection. Follow his logic

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closely. Success, popularity, and power can indeed

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present a great temptation, but their seductive

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quality often comes from the way they are a part

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of a much larger temptation to self -rejection.

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When we have come to believe in the voices that

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call us worthless, unlovable, when we have voices

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that you're not worthy, you don't measure up

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as the idea, when we carry in our hearts shame

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and guilt in a sense that we are unlovable, then

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he goes on to say, success, popularity, and power

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are easily perceived as attractive solutions.

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The real trap, however, is self -rejection. Self

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-rejection is the greatest enemy of the spiritual

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life because it contradicts the sacred voice

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that God calls us the beloved. We are beloved

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in Christ. We are in Christ. Being the beloved

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constitutes the core truth of our existence.

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I think at the core of the existence of God's

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heart, at least in what I'm learning, and as

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I've read many of the people that have walked

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much deeper in the Christian life than me, It

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comes to the sense that believing just as you

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are, not if this gets cleaned up, not because

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you do this or do that, but just as you are because

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of who God is, that you are the object of his

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affection and that all these things about purity

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and all these things about caring for others

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and all these things about life transformation

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really start. if they're genuine, at the very,

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very core of our existence, when we begin to

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see ourselves as God sees us, as precious, as

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valuable, as unconditionally loved, as the object

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of his affection and concern. And there's nothing

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that brings greater honor to God if we could

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learn to receive it. How great a love the Father

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has on us, has lavished upon us that we should

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be called The children of God. So let's talk

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about what love is. Let's see if we can move

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it from that concept intellectual in our head

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down to our hearts. For me, it's God's love is

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his holy disposition toward all that he's created

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that compels him to express unconditional affection.

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and selective correction to provide the highest

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and best quality of existence, both now and forever

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for the objects of his love. Let me unpack that

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just a little because the words were actually

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chosen fairly carefully. God's love is holy.

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In other words, we learned that word, right?

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It means separate, Markov. It's totally other.

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And it's a holy disposition. It's just the way

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he feels, the way he thinks all the time about

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you. And it's that he's created. He has this

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holy disposition that compels him to do two things.

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He's just compelled, not because of something

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in you, but because of something in him to express

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unconditional affection. It's a holy disposition

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that compels him toward unconditional affection

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and selective correction. See, God loves me so

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much that anytime my life, my thought, my relationship,

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my finances, and my priorities are moving me

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toward unhealthy things that will do damage to

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me and damage to others, his love does what?

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He brings about correction. See, that's what

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God's love is. He's compelled to do it, but why?

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In order to provide the highest and best quality

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of existence. You know, the abundant life Jesus

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talked about, that's just another way of saying

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it. The highest, best, what's it mean? Life that's

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really life. Living to the brim, living fulfilled,

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living not dependent on people's response, but

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something that wells up inside where the deepest

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longings and thirsts of your soul are satisfied.

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That's what God wants for you. God's love is

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other. And so absolutely beyond what we can grasp.

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And so that's kind of my definition. The characteristics

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of this love, and I call it agape love. The New

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Testament writers actually made up that word.

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They just didn't have a good word so that, you

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know, we're going to take this word agape and

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let's kind of sanctify it, put it in the New

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Testament so it doesn't get confused with storge

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or eros or some of these other kind of loves

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that the Greek language was familiar with. And

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the characteristics are interesting. It's a giving

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love. It's a sacrificial love. It's an unconditional

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love. And it's a boundless love. God's love is

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expressed primarily through his goodness, mercy,

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long -suffering, and grace. And I have a quote

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here from one of my professors. I really like

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what Dr. Ryrie says here. He says, the love of

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God is like a tree, and then there are branches

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of its expression. And they are primarily his

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goodness, mercy, long -suffering, and grace.

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And he says, although there are distinctions

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as you study these words, they're really not

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exact. God's goodness may be defined as his benevolent

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concern for his creatures. Did you ever just

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think of God as the today, this moment? He's

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concerned about you. You know how some of you

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moms are? Hey, call me when you get there. Call

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me. I want to know you made it okay. The God

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of the universe sort of has that attitude. Hey,

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I'm just, I'm checking on you. I want to make

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sure everything's okay. Is that how you think

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of him? Or do you think of him as far away, hard

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to get to, wish you could get his attention.

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The love of God is expressed in his goodness.

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It's also divined as a benevolent concern for

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his creatures, as well as mercy is the aspect

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of his goodness that causes him to show pity

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and compassion. Have you ever just really blown

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it and just felt so shameful and so bad and just

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like, you're not even lovable. I mean, forget

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by God, by anybody. The love of God is expressed

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in his mercy. And he just looks down and says,

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this didn't surprise me at all. I'm not even

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shocked. In fact, before the foundations of the

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earth, when the God has been determining what

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the price tag of men's freedom would be, Jesus

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knew that he would come and he would hang on

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a cross for that very shameful sin. It goes on

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to say that his long suffering speaks of his

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self -restraint in the face of provocation. Have

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you ever thought of God exercising self -restraint?

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I mean, you know, like you really need a spanking

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and he just... I'll wait a couple more days.

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You know, you just got a really rotten attitude

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or you're involved in some blatant sin, you know,

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and the consequences should be swift, but he

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just loves you so much. God is practicing self

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-restraint in his relationship with you. Why?

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Because he loves you. And then the final word

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there is grace. His unmerited favor shown primarily

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through Christ, which makes possible a relationship

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with him. You're listening to Living on the Edge.

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We'll return you to Chip's message in just a

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minute, but let me quickly share with you, God

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.org. We appreciate you giving whatever God leads

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you to give. Well, with that, here's Chip. I've

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taken all that I've learned about God's love

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and I thought if I could put it in a few statements,

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a few simple statements to get it from this God

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loves me and I have these feelings now and then

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and okay, it's goodness and it's mercy and it's

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long suffering and I get a little flash of it.

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But I wanted to give you maybe a little summary

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of what it would look like if you could see specifically.

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what it feels like and how God thinks about you.

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So you could start to move it from up here, intellectual

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to down here to spiritual and emotional. And

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as I read these, what I'd like you to do is think

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about just this question, kind of lean back.

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Is this how I see God? Is this how I see God?

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And if sort of that quick gut reaction is. I

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might intellectually believe God is that way,

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but that is not how I see God or think of how

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he sees me. Then what you know is you have some

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renewal of the mind to do. Statement number one,

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God loves for you means his thoughts, intentions,

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desires, and plans for you are always for your

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good and never for your harm. We looked at, you

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know, Jeremiah 29, 11, and James 1. But think

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of that. Do you kind of in your heart of hearts

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think that his desires and intents, his plans,

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they're always for your good? He's just a very

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safe, safe person to be with. And the plans for

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the future that he has for you, his desires for

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you, it's always for your welfare. See, if you

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understand the love of God, that's what you'll

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think. God's love for you means that he is kind.

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He's open. He's approachable. He's frank. And

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he's eager to be your friend. Do you see him

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that member? I don't call you slaves because

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a slave doesn't know what his master is doing.

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I've called you my friends for all things. The

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father has made known to me. I've revealed to

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you. Do you see him as open and friendly or is

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he distant and unapproachable? And you know,

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you gotta be good to be on good terms. And when

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you're good, he'll listen to you. But if you

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struggled, he probably doesn't. God's love means

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that 24 seven, he's open. He's kind. He's approachable.

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God's love for you means he emotionally identifies

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with your pain, your joy, your hopes and dreams.

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And he's chosen to allow your happiness to affect

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his own. Have you thought of the, you know, when

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you're in pain and when you're hurt, is he on

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the other side of the fence and he's maybe kind

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of causing it? Or is he on the side of the fence

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behind you? With his arm around you and your

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joys bring actually happiness to the heart of

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God and your hurts and your struggles bring tears.

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Have you ever thought of that? Have you ever

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thought that when Jesus' friend Lazarus died

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in John 11, that he wept, that he hurt, that

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he felt for Mary and he felt for Martha and it

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broke his heart when he saw what a fallen world

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and death did. Is that how you see God? That

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when you're really struggling, instead of being

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down on you, he weeps with you. God's love for

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you means, fourth, that he takes pleasure in

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you just for who you are, totally apart from

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your performance or your accomplishments. He's

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the God of Zephaniah 3. He's the God that is

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mighty. He is the God who is with you. He is

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the God that when there's confusion all around

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says, just let me quiet you with my love. And

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let me sing over you in rejoicing. Is that how

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you see him? You know who I'm describing? I'm

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describing the God of the Bible. This is the

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God of the Bible. Finally, God's love for you

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means he's actively and creatively orchestrating

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people's circumstances and events to express

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his affection and selective correction to provide

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for your highest good. Do you think of this God

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who is not only loving, but he's actively orchestrating

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and allowing relationships and events and circumstances.

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so that he could express affection through a

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person, affection through a job promotion, affection

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through a discovery of a spiritual gift, affection

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through a new friend that really understands

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you, affection through a relationship that you

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never thought you would have, affection because

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your body wasn't working and for reasons that

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none of us understand why or when or how, but

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rather than through medicine, he decided just

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to touch your body. Or does he also in his love

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just... So care that selectively brings circumstances

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and people to bring about selective correction

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and bring some pain and discouragement and some

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depression. And maybe you lose a job. Maybe you

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lose a friend because he wants to get your attention.

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Maybe your 401k went bloop and maybe your business

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is going south because just little by little,

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you didn't mean to, but you're drifting. You're

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drifting. And he's so jealous and he so loves

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you and he sees where that's going to head. He

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does some things that make you mad at first.

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But like watching the little kid run out into

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the street, he runs out after you, grabs you

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by the neck, jerks you back so the car doesn't

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hit you, and then out of love gives you a little

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whack on the rear end and says to you, honey,

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don't go there anymore. You're too precious.

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You know, some of you may say to yourself, like

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I have struggled with, you know, of all the ones,

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this is kind of the neat. If this were true,

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it would be really neat. You know, that one on

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justice was kind of hard to take. The holiness

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was a little overwhelming. The wisdom I kind

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of liked. But boy, this would feed my soul. This

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would change my life. Is it really true? And

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so what I'd like to do is I'd like to demonstrate

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from scripture that this is the God that loves

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you and loves me. I'd like to walk through how

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God reveals his love to us through about one,

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two, three, four, five, oh, six different things.

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God reveals his love to us first through creation.

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Are you ready for this? He made you for himself.

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Do you ever think about this way? You know, Genesis

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chapter 1, verse 26 and 27, then God said, let

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us make man in our own image, in our own likeness,

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and let them rule over the fish of the sea and

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the birds of the air and the livestock and over

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the earth and over all the creatures that move

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along the ground. So God created man in his own

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image. In the image of God, he created him male

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and female. He created them. He created you in

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his own image. You're like him. And he creates

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this. paradise and he wants to have a relationship

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with you. And then in Colossians 1 16, you learn

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for by him, Jesus, all things were created things

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in heaven, things on earth, visible and invisible,

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whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities,

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all things were created by him. And I love this

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for him. You were created for him. He made you

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so he could be with you. I remember when I was

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a little boy, I mean, it's so in our DNA because

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we're in God's image. I remember going to the

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beach as a little boy. And, you know, when you

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play in the sand and it was that kind of wet

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kind of sand where you could build stuff. I took

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about three hours. I mean, I dug the hole and

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got it. I thought it was real deep, but it seemed

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kind of deep. And then I built this wall and

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I was making this castle. And it was like on

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a cartoon. Some big kid I didn't know. Three

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hours. You feel bad for me already, don't you?

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Tell you what. Ladies in the front row here,

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they're going to be permanent prayer partners.

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Oh man, Chip, he's probably psychologically damaged

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for years. But seriously, this big kid comes

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and he kicks it all down. I'm five years old

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and I can still remember it. And I created sand

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castle from a little water. And this is how it

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made me feel. Why? Because what I make for me

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matters to me. And what God makes for him matters

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to him. And he made you. He made you. That's

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how much you matter. This is Living on the Edge

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with Chip Ingram. And you've been listening to

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part one of Chip's message, The Love of God,

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from our series, The Real God. In just a minute,

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Chip will share some helpful application for

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us to think about. But right now, Chip's here

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in studio to pass along a really important message

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to all of you. Chip? Thanks, Dave. I want to

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we need to make a difference? Well, it's now.

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Will you help us? Thanks, Chip. As you prayerfully

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tap donate. Thanks. We appreciate whatever you

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can do to help. Well, here again is Chip. In

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today's program, I tried to do something that

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I know is impossible. I tried to describe the

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love of God. And we did go over a definition,

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and it's a good place to start. Let me read it

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for you one more time. God's love is his holy

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disposition toward all that he's created that

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compels him to express unconditional affection

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and selective correction to provide the highest

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and best quality of existence both now and forever

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for the object of his love. And, you know, that's

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a good definition. I think it's pretty accurate

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and biblical, but it doesn't get down to the

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emotional level. I want you to hear today. I

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want to sink in how God really feels about you

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totally apart from your performance. And so listen,

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will you? Will you lean back if possible right

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now? This is the God of the universe. His thoughts,

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His intentions, His desires, and His plans for

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you are always for your good and never for your

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harm. Let that sink in. Everything He has lined

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up for your life. is to bring something good

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and wonderful to you because he loves you. Second,

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he's kind. He's open. He's approachable. He's

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frank. And he's eager to be your friend. He's

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not hard to get to know. He's not demanding.

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He's not unreasonable. Third, he emotionally

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identifies with your pain, your joy, your hopes,

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your dreams, and he's actually allowed your happiness

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to impact him. It's like a parent. I mean, when

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your kids are doing well, there's joy in your

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heart. And when they're hurting and in pain,

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there's sorrow in your heart. Could you grasp

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today that the God who created all that there

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is, that's how he feels about you in your present

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situation. And fourth, he takes pleasure in you

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just for who you are. I mean, if you don't do

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anything today, if you don't do any good works,

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although there are valuable and important and

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all the rest, it doesn't affect his love. It's

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not based on that. And finally, I want to remind

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you today and take this with you all throughout

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the day that he is actively and creatively orchestrating

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people and circumstances and events this day

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for you to express his affection and occasionally

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some selective correction because you're his

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child and you matter. Like the little song says,

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Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells

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me so. And you are the object of that love today.

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Bask in it, will you? Enjoy it. Great application

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for us to think about, Chip. Thanks. You've been

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listening to a selected program that we wanted

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to share from this past week. To hear more from

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Chip's series, The Real God, go to livingontheedge

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.org or wherever you listen to podcasts. Until

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next time, I'm Dave Drewy saying thanks for listening

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to this weekend edition of Living on the Edge.
