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Let me ask you a question. What comes into your

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mind when you hear the word holy? I mean, what

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do you think of when you think God is holy? Is

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it candles? Is it incense? Is it unattainable

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perfection? Well, here's the deal. How can we

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be holy if we can't even define it? Stay with

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me. Welcome to this weekend edition of Living

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on the Edge with Chip Ingram. The mission of

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this daily program is to intentionally disciple

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Christians through the insightful Bible teaching

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of Chip Ingram. Thanks for being with us as we

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highlight another program from our current series,

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The Real God, How He Longs for You to See Him.

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Today we're revisiting Chip's message on God's

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holiness as he offers a perspective on this attribute

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that you may not have considered before. So if

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you're ready, go to Hebrews chapter 12 in your

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Bible as we join Chip for his message, The Holiness

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of God. I'd like to take you back to Exodus 19.

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And imagine if you literally were filming and

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watching and think, I'm always, I guess something

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about me is always drawn to when God does something

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the first time. Seems to me that it's very instructive.

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After 400 years, people don't have a clue of

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who God is. How does he introduce himself? What

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does he want them to know about him first? Exodus

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19 opens up and it says after two months. So

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they've been in the wilderness for 60 days. And

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God says to Moses, I want to introduce myself

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to my people that I have redeemed. These will

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be my people. And it's that picture. And if you

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can just imagine, you know, panning with your

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camera. And seeing 2 million people, maybe you're

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up high so you have a great view. And 2 million

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people on this boundary. And then seeing this

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smoke billow. And then fire. And then, you know,

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it's hard to keep a good picture because the

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ground is shaking. Because there's an earthquake.

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And you watch people fall on their face before

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God. And this thundering voice. I guess I would

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ask you if you were doing a documentary and someone

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said, This God has just introduced himself to

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his people. What's he like? I'm guessing it would

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not be something like, oh, he's the man upstairs.

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He's my homeboy. We have embraced an evangelical

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Christianity in our desire to move away from

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dead ritual, in our desire to know that Jesus

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is our friend. And God, though being transcendent,

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is eminent. We have lost much in our tradition,

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and I would say even in our music, a sense of

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the holiness of God, the purity of God, the righteousness

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of God. And when you see that he's holy, here's

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what you get. You're not. You're not at all.

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Your righteousness is like filthy rags, and so

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is mine. Your motives, your thoughts, your best

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days. The word holy, set apart, distinct, different,

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separate. The word literally means a cut above.

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He's in a category. The word holy is he is other.

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There's not a category for him. And when you

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come into the presence of a holy God, you are

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undone. And I don't see many Christians or many

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churches very often undone in the presence of

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God. I think some of the older traditions. actually

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helped us grasp God's holiness. Unfortunately,

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he became a distant, cold God who we would reach

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him through significant rituals, which was never

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the intent. But what you find out in church history

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is the pendulum swings this way, then it swings

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this way. Here's what I want to tell you. It

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needs to swing back this way. We need to know

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that... Jesus is my friend and that he loves

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me and he accepts me just as I am. And he's tenderhearted

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and quick of sympathy. But the morality of the

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average Christian in the evangelical church would

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scream, I don't believe he's holy. You'll notice

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on the front of your notes, Tozer would write,

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we know nothing like the divine holiness. It

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stands apart, unique, unapproachable, incomprehensible,

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and unattainable. I mean, there's a lot of uns

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in there. The natural man is blind to it. He

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may fear God's power and admire his wisdom, but

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his holiness, he cannot even imagine. The first

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time we see this concept of holiness is right

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after the Red Sea is parted, and there's a song

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that Moses sings, and this song, we'll learn

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later, is sung currently in heaven, and notice

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the song is, who among the gods is like you,

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O Yahweh? Who is like you? Answer, no one. Majestic

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in, what's the first word? Holiness. The word

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majestic is the idea of exponential multiplying

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in holiness. Awesome in glory, working wonders.

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My best personal definition of holiness is it's

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both his majesty and moral purity. It's the absolute

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absence of evil. It encompasses what's pure,

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holy, righteous. The English root word for holiness

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has the idea of wholeness or soundness. It encompasses

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the idea of health. And so to be holy isn't just

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candles and a black robe and singing special

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songs with a very low voice with low lights.

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It's about the wholeness or the purity of the

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universe that brings life and brings health because

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as God is, he wants us to become. And so not

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obviously in his essence, but in our character

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that we would be holy like he's holy. How has

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God revealed his holiness? In English, when we

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want to talk about degrees, we say someone is

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good. And then we say, oh, someone else is better.

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And then we say someone else is best. Good, better,

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best. In Hebrew, the way you talk about things

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is you repeat it. So in Hebrew, only one time

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God has called something holy, holy. You see

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it in Isaiah 6. You see it in Revelation 4. You

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see it in Revelation 5. The outstanding character

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of God is his otherness, his complete purity,

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his unapproachable light. He's holy, holy, holy.

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When angelic beings that... have never sinned,

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are in his presence, they cover their eyes, they

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cover their feet, and they fly, and they perpetually

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say, holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty,

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who was, who is, and who is to come. And so I

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just want you to get this majestic picture, and

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then I'm going to just highlight how it shows

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up in scripture. And I've given you the passages

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for your study. First, through supernatural encounters,

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Moses meets God, John meets God, Daniel meets

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God. Isaiah meets God. And here's all I want

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to say. Whenever you see someone meet God in

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Scripture, they're undone. Bam, they're on their

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face. They're undone. And so the question I have

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to ask myself and you is, when is the last time

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you were in the presence of God and just you

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were undone of the distance between what you

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know He's like and how you begin to see yourself?

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Second, he reveals his holiness through places.

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What you need to know is wherever God is, it

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instantly becomes holy. It can be a bush, it's

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holy. It can be just a tent, you call it a tabernacle,

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and his presence comes, it's holy. It can be

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a temple that people build, it's holy. Wherever

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God's presence is, it becomes holy. Third, the

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way he reveals his holiness is through the law.

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The first four commands, are all about the distinctiveness,

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the holiness of God. Have no other gods because

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there aren't any. And then no graven images.

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Don't reduce me. Don't make a picture of me.

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Don't have an idol. Don't in any way try and

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reduce me in some form. My name is holy because

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it's my character. Don't misuse my name. Don't

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make vows in my name. This Sabbath, there's this

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gift I've given to man that supernaturally when

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I got done, I stopped to pause and for 24 hours,

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I want you to know I'm giving you a gift so that

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you will be separate, you'll be distinct, you'll

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be different. You'll accomplish in six days what

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takes other people seven and you will rest and

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pause so that you'll know the last six days were

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my hand upon you and you will pause to remember.

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This is God. Remember the Sabbath to keep it

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holy. And then the next six commands on the second

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tablet are about health and holiness in relationships.

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In other words, the path of holiness, Isaiah

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would talk about the highway of holiness. There's

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a path of holiness that you walk on, but the

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result is health and wholeness for you and for

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relationships. So if you want healthy, whole

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relationships, Honor your mom and dad, don't

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lie, don't steal, don't commit adultery, and

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don't covet. Those are the parameters around

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holy relationships with one another. For the

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health of God's universe and his people. The

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prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Zechariah, I just

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put a few down. I mean, prophets' job was pretty

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simple. Stop worshiping idols. Name your prophet.

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Here's the message. Stop worshiping idols. Because

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we all do. You're listening to Living on the

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But God is holy. He's distinct. And so the prophet's

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job was simple, to afflict the comfortable and

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to comfort the afflicted. They were always intervening.

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You don't understand. God's available. It's your

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sin. It's what's happened. It's where you are.

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He wants to help. That's what the prophets kept

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saying. And to the people who acted like they

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didn't need him, they had some pretty harsh stuff.

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Through wrath and judgment, this may sound odd,

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but the holiness of God demands that just like

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a great surgeon would see cancer that needs to

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be operated on, I'm telling you, these doctors,

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they're heartless. They really are. My wife had

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cancer. That guy didn't feel bad. He took a little

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sharp knife. He's got a huge scar. Pulled out

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that, pulled out a bunch of lymph glands. He

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didn't feel bad about it at all. Why? Because

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it was killing her. God, when he sees that which

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is killing you, killing a nation, destroying

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what he has made, He brings his righteous wrath

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and judgment. Acts chapter 5. Think about it.

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The very first sin in the church was what? Remember?

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It was hiding money, but the heart of it was

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hypocrisy. It was their money. They didn't have

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to do anything with it. But remember, the goal

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was Barnabas had given a generous gift from the

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heart, and a lot of people were going, isn't

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Barnabas wonderful? And I think Ananias and Sapphira

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said, we want our cake and eat it too. We want

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people to think this about us, but we don't want

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to be that generous. And so what we're going

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to do is we're going to make up a story that,

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you know, we sold it for X amount and we gave

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it all. And the fact of the matter is, you know,

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we put the other in a CD over here, relatively

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speaking. And I mean, now think of this. It's

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the very first sin recorded in the New Testament.

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Why did Satan cause you, you know, to lie to

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the Holy Spirit? Satan has filled your heart.

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What was the consequences? He died. Do you think

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that sent a message through the early church?

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Or, you know, I'm thinking about becoming a Christian.

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You want to become in that group? I don't know.

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I'll tell you what, authenticity was a pretty

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high value in the early church. You don't have

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to have it together, but you better not fake

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it. But what you see, it's just God declares

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his holiness. See, we're living in a day where

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we actually think that the commands of God are

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like an optional kind of vending machine or salad

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bar. You know, 10 commandments, I'm good with.

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One, two, four, seven, and nine. Could I get

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that to go? But really, it's like we've got a

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whole generation in evangelical churches with

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one of those little knives that, well, you know,

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this one about sexual purity, that's pretty Victorian.

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You know, on this one about greed, I mean, you

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know, we're, no, we're not. And so once it happens,

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we're enough people, we look at one another.

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And since we're all, quote, are sort of fudging,

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and people that we respect, well, I really respect

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so -and -so, and he or they do this or they do

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that. And then pretty soon, it's like a little

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cancer and disease. And then the culture of God's

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people, we're no longer distinct. And what I

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can tell you is part of what God will do is he'll

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bring that velvet vice. I mean, 1 Corinthians

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11, this isn't new. Some in the early church,

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the wealthy would come and they would eat and

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they would marginalize the poor and they were

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disgracing the Lord's table. And 1 Corinthians

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11 says, for this reason, some of you are sick,

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judgment, and some of you are asleep. It's a

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technical term in the New Testament for a believer

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who's died. I'll tell you what, if you were in

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a church where some people died because of their

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greed and lack of concern for other believers

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with the Lord's Supper, I'll tell you what, my

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behavior would change. So where's that God today?

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I don't think he's changed. I would suggest that

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we as Christians often blame the media, education,

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some political party. When the salt gets unsalty

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and when the light gets dim, the culture just

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follows. The shift in the culture is not going

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to happen externally. It's going to happen like

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it always has, inside out. It'll be normal people

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like us that live holy lives. And then we all

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have little networks of relationships. And some

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of you have really big ones. And you'll just

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get bold. And by the way, pretty soon it's not

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going to matter. So you might as well be bold

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now. They're going to whack you. You're going

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to become more and more unpopular. And by the

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way, what we know historically is probably good.

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When they got rid of all the missionaries in

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China and they were persecuted, they went from

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a few million to 100, 120 million today. In Greece,

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Germany, we have some very important relationships

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there. What's happening among the refugees because

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of ISIS? I am telling you, tens of thousands

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of people are coming to Christ. Christians who

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are persecuted, this is historically always true.

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God will purify His church, and He's probably

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going to do that to some degree, and maybe to

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a big degree in America. So we need to get our

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chin strap on and realize this is the spiritual

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NFL and we want to gain yards. And people who

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want to gain yards realize when you come through

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and if it's a good little hole, bam, you get

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hit by a linebacker. Well, you don't go, oh,

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what happened? We've got to quit thinking that

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somehow that we are living in a culture that

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is positive toward our faith and our belief,

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and now we're going to have to learn to love

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people and be kind to people and respond to people

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because good is more powerful than evil as we

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lay out our convictions and live out a life that's

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radically different than probably ever before.

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Because the America that you live in now is not

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the America that was 50, 60 years ago. that was

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very sympathetic, that shared the values. You're

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now intolerant, narrow bigots because you believe

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Jesus is the answer and that there's absolute

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truth. And there's absolute truth about life

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and about eternity and about morality. Now, the

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danger is championing that in a way where you're

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hard -headed, legalistic, self -righteous, saying

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that we're better than other people. We've done

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that before. That didn't work. We need to do

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it the way Jesus did. We need to live this amazing

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life before our world that's pure and righteous

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and take a strong stand and then have people

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who think that we're the enemies be absolutely

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astounded. Why are we driving them to the doctor?

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Why are we loving people that outwardly hate

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us? Why do we give good instead of evil? Because

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that is what turns the life around. And that's

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how holiness brings health. His son, obviously,

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the Lord Jesus, a holy birth, his pure sinless

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life. We get the sneak preview of his holiness

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where the transfiguration, his unholy death.

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You understand that all, I mean, this is a great

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theological truth. 2 Corinthians 5 .21 is that.

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When Jesus was hanging on the cross and he said,

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my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Do

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you understand what was happening? For the first

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time in all eternity, God the Father turned away

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from God the Son, and there was a break in the

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fellowship in the singular God, but in the person

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of the Father and the person of the Son, because

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in that... Moment of time, your sin and my sin

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and the sin of all people of all time was placed

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on Christ and he became our sin offering and

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he became sin on our behalf. He carried the weight

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of it all. And then the just wrath of God, the

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just anger of God for all sin of all people was

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placed on Christ and he atoned, he covered it.

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There's something so beautiful, so powerful,

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and there's something about the holiness of God

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that scares you to death. There's such power,

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and yet there's beauty. And I think that's what

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the men and women of old, when they got a snapshot

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of God, and it changed them. This is Living on

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the Edge with Chip Ingram, and you've been listening

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to Part 1 of Chip's message, The Holiness of

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God, from our series, The Real God. Chip will

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be back shortly to share some helpful application

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for us to think about. You know, we've all unintentionally

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projected some of humanity's worst qualities

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into our Creator. Many view God as moody, weak,

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unfair, impatient, and merciless. But those ideas

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couldn't be further from the truth. Through this

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series, Chip explores key Bible passages to reveal

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seven fundamental characteristics of our Heavenly

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Father, attributes that reflect the very essence

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of His divine nature. Join Chip on this journey

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to reshape your perspective toward God, which

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will deepen your relationship with Him like never

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before. You won't want to miss a single part

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of this study. Well, before we go on, Chip's

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joined me in studio now to share something with

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all of you. Thanks, Dave. I'll be right back

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to share a few final thoughts for this message.

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But let me pause and ask you a direct question.

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How do you see yourself? And more importantly,

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how do you think God sees you? So often we believe

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lies about ourselves based in shame and guilt

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or insecurities. And I want to give you a divine

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mirror to see yourself the way God sees you.

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Let me encourage you to sign up for our daily

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discipleship series, Discover Your True Self,

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based in Ephesians chapters 1 through 3. This

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is a free video resource where you and I will

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study the Word together for 20 minutes a day,

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10 minutes with me, and then 10 minutes on your

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own. I promise that if you'll join me on this

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20 -day adventure through Ephesians, you'll break

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through the lies that we all believe about ourselves.

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You'll get God's perspective on who you really

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are, and you'll build a life -changing habit

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of meeting with God. I sure hope you'll check

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it out. Thanks, Chip. To learn more about our

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daily Discipleship with Chip series, Discover

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Your True Self, go to livingontheedge .org. This

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free video tool will help you ignore the lies

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the enemy tries to tell you and embrace the unique,

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cherished person God created. Again, to sign

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up for this or any of our other daily discipleship

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series, go to livingontheedge .org. App listeners,

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tap discipleship. We'll hear again as Chip with

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a few final words to wrap up this program. I

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don't know about you, but Tozer's words haunt

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me. He said, We know nothing like the divine

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holiness. Left to myself, I reduce God and I

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take this high and holy and majestic God and

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I make him small. And instead of comparing myself

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to his holiness, I tend to find other Christians

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that are a little less holy than me and I compare

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myself to them. And yet when I gaze, when I get

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those brief moments where I gaze into the absolute

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purity and the sinlessness and the power of a

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holy God, it crushes me. How about you? What

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went through your mind when I described what

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the human heart is like? What mid -course corrections

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might you need to make in light of the holiness

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and the purity of God? You know, maybe you're

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like me, and maybe you need to repent of a low,

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casual view of God that you don't mean to have,

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but you've just slipped into. Maybe you need

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to remember that though God is eager to be our

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friend, that he is immortal, invisible, the only

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wise God, that he dwells in unapproachable light,

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and he and he alone is holy. Almighty God, would

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you please forgive us today as you listen to

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our voice at this moment for reducing you, for

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making you like us. Lord, we say that you are

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totally other and pure, and we ask today that

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you would help us to see you accurately and then

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live appropriately. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen.

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Thanks, Chip. Let me take a quick second before

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we go and thank the generous people who support

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The Real God, go to livingontheedge .org or wherever

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Dave Drewy saying thanks for listening to this

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weekend edition of Living on the Edge.
