This is the Chip Ingram Sermon Podcast, brought
to you by Living on the Edge. In this podcast,
you'll hear Chip's teaching unedited and from
beginning to end. Here's Chip with today's message
titled, You Gotta Die. Well, as most of you know,
Easter is kind of the high day, the pinnacle
of Christianity. It's a message that you've heard,
you've sung. It's about life. It's about hope.
And it's about peace. And if there's ever a time,
I don't know about in your personal life, but
in the world that we need life and hope and peace,
I would say it's about now. I mean, it's easy
to kind of get focused in on your world and my
world and my email and my little kind of relationships,
but the world is a messed up place right now.
I mean, we're living in pretty historic days.
I mean, did you ever, ever dream that there would
be a group of people? A small group, a minority
who would think that, you know, they get an A
from the God that they worship by killing people
they've never met. That's the world that we're
currently living in. And we got to get our heads
out of the sand to realize if there is a message
that's real about life and hope and peace, the
world needs it now. But it can't just be some
religious little experience. It's got to make
sense. The flip side of that is sometimes you
don't even have to watch CNN or Fox or the network
news to see what's happening in the world. All
you have to do is kind of look in your own home.
I don't know a lot of you very well, but if you
and I could go get a cup of coffee somewhere
and say, hey, you know, tell me how you're really
doing. And I promise not to tell anyone. Just
what's really, what are the biggest hurts in
your life in the last nine to 12 months? I will
guarantee you I would hear about the divorce
or separation you recently went through. The
baby that you lost or someone who found out that
your wife or husband is having an affair. I wonder
how many people here you'd say, well, honestly,
I haven't told anybody, but I have an addiction.
And whether it's prescription drugs or whether
it's porn or cocaine, I mean, I can just tell
you, oh, no, that's not it. It's my aging parents.
No, no, no, no, no. It's my, I lost my job. They
foreclosed on my home. Our business went under.
I mean, that's the world that we're living in.
And here's what I wanted to do in our time together
because it's really important. I grew up in an
experience where people had what I called God
talk and talked about hope and life and peace.
But it was like spiritual, religious mumbo jumbo
over here. And then I would go back into the
real world and I never saw the correlation and
it didn't seem to make sense in their life. And
so I want to talk today about how do you really
find life and hope and peace in a world that's
really messed up. There was a man many years
ago named Frank. And Frank had everything that
we would think would bring life and hope and
peace. He lived a carefree life. He inherited
a great amount of wealth. His house would be
nestled up into the hills. He would have a couple
luxury cars. His kids had high SAT scores. I
mean, his life would just be amazingly wonderful
by all our standards. And he lived that high
life, but he found there was an emptiness about
what really brings life and what really gives
purpose. And so he did something crazy. He heard
the words and the teachings of an itinerant preacher
that had lived roughly 1 ,200 years before he
was born, a man named Jesus. And as he read the
words, he thought, this is so radical. But I've
got money, I've got wealth, I've got it all,
and I'm empty inside, so I'm going to take this
person, and he follows these words of Christ
in a very literal way and left everything. And
he found a small little band of people who would
say, will you leave everything with me? Why don't
we try this out as an experiment? Let's radically
love people. Let's not worry about material stuff.
Let's just go after it, and they did. That was
almost 1 ,000 years ago. And his little group
is still going on. And they live by a motto.
It's a prayer that he wrote. I think his name
was Frank when he started off, but later when
he got to be more famous, people started calling
him Francis. And his prayer and his motto of
how to live for life and hope and peace was,
Lord, make me an instrument of your peace. And
where there is hatred, let me sow love. Where
there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt,
faith. Where there is despair, hope. And where
there is sadness, joy. O divine master, grant
that I may not so much, listen to the counterintuitive,
grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled
as to console, to be understood as to understand,
to be loved as to love. For it is in giving that
we receive. That's counterintuitive. It is in
pardoning that we are pardoned. And it is in
dying that we are born to eternal life. The Franciscans,
almost 1 ,000 years later, are doing what? Helping
the poor, living out his prayer. You may not
agree with all they're doing, but I will tell
you what. They have experienced a life that's
impacted millions upon millions upon millions
of people in the things that money can't buy.
And as I read that, I thought to myself, where
did he get those crazy ideas? Now, I know he
got them from Jesus, but how does it really work?
Secular scholars say that the Apostle Paul was
probably the greatest mind of the first century.
He was from Tarsus. It was a nice town. He was
a Roman citizen, which was a big deal. He had
wealth. And his life wasn't making sense. And
he tried so hard, so hard, so hard, so hard to
be good. And then he encountered the living Christ.
And he realized that he had to die. He needed
to stop trying, stop working, stop attempting,
stop trying to prove, pose. And he met the living
Christ. And in the midst of a world, and here's
what you got to understand. Sometimes we think
it's really, really bad now. You ought to study
church history. I majored in history in college.
You ought to study what Rome was like and what
it was like to grow up there. You ought to study
and look at the culture of what the Greeks taught.
And there was gods on every corner. And there
was an immorality that makes our triple X porn
look mild. The poor had unbelievable injustice.
Greed and power ruled. People got crushed. Women
had nothing. And in the midst of all that, this
brilliant intellect said, I am crucified with
Christ. Nevertheless, I live. Yet not I, but
Christ lives inside of me. And now this life
that I live day by day in this physical body,
I live by faith in the Son of God who gave himself
for me. And what he was saying was, listen to
that word, I'm crucified with Christ. He said,
I had to die. I had to die to my agenda, my selfishness,
my greed, my demands. I had to die. And Francis
picked that up and he put it in that prayer that
he prayed and that prayer that he lived. The
gateway to the deepest relationships, peace that
won't go away, and hope that you can have when
you find out someone you love has cancer or when
you find out someone you love has hooked up with
someone else. begins with a death. Because when
there's no death, there can't be resurrection.
In one sentence, the Apostle Paul, it's out of
his letter to the Galatians, chapter 2, verse
20, says this is how it works. Now here's what
I want to do. I want to step back and ask, how
does that really play out? And so we're going
to ask four very basic questions. Question number
one, how did we get here? How did the world get
this messed up? There's chaos out there and there's
chaos in here. And what I want to tell you is
the world, this world that we live in now is
not the world God created. The world that God
created, the eternal creator of all that it is,
who spoke the world into existence, created an
absolutely perfect world. And he created human
beings that he placed in a perfect world. The
ecosystem was perfect. The weather was perfect.
No hurricanes, no tsunamis. There was no death.
There was no pain. There was no sorrow. There
was no conflict. There was no wars. There was
God and the human beings that he made in perfect
fellowship. But God, in this perfect world that
he made, wanted to have a very real relationship
with us. And there's a price for freedom. See,
you can make robots and have them bow down to
you or say words to you, but robots don't have
the freedom to say yes or no. They're programmed.
God wanted people that would have a real, authentic
relationship with him because they had to be
able to do what free moral agents can, say yes
to him or say no to him. And so what we find
is the great price of freedom was that we, mankind,
said, God, I don't want you. I'm gonna do my
own thing. I think I know what's best for me.
The world that God created revolved around him
and his son. Then there was this coup, this rebellion,
and each one of us try and get the world to revolve
around us. It's me, and it's mine, and more,
and gotta have. And there was devastating consequences.
The theologians call it the fall or when sin
entered the world. And the impact was it separated
us from God. It separates us from each other
and it separates us even from ourselves. You
cannot imagine how many people deeply, deeply
do not like themselves because they see who they
are and who they pose and pretend to be. And
the scripture says that even the globe, the actual
earth, the fall impacted. It groans. It's like
the coup happened and then the entire planet
got this cancer, this deteriorating disease.
And so there's earthquakes and there's tsunamis
and nothing will be made right until the Savior
who came once will come back as a judge and make
everything right. But that's how we got here.
And so there was a need. There's a tremendous
need. If God cares, what are you going to do
about this? See, if God made the world the way
as it is, he's not a very good God. He's not
a good God. He's not a kind God. He's a cruel
God. But the world that you live in is messed
up. God didn't mess it up. We did. But he cares.
And so the question number two is where is God
in the chaos? Not just in the suffering that's
happening in places around the world, but where
is God in your chaos? In the relationship that
isn't going well and the anger and the bitterness
and the people that have talked about you and
all the junk. Where is God in the chaos? Here's
the message of Easter. Get this down. Easter
is about a divine intervention. Anybody here
know what an intervention is? Anybody had a friend
or a relative? I have. It's either a crack addict,
a sex addict, an alcoholic, a prescription drugger,
cocaine addict. Well, I have I've been involved
in intervention when my mother did it with my
dad with us kids You know what interventions
are? Interventions are people are living in destructive
ways that are killing them and ruining everything
and everyone around them And we watch the devastation,
we watch the pain. And then someone gets the
courage to say, I'm not playing in the system
any longer. And you get all the friends and you
get all the family and usually find a pro who's
done this before because you need to know what
you're doing. And you all create this place and
then usually have to trick them to get them there.
And he walks in and he goes, oh, what's going
on? And they say, we love you and you have a
big problem. And whether it's your alcoholism
or whether it's your drug addiction or whether
it's your logging on habit, we care so much.
We refuse to play the game. We're intervening
now. And we want you to know there's hope and
there's a path that you can take. But we won't
support this any longer. And I'll never forget
the day my mom did that with our family after
my dad was an alcoholic for about 25 years. And
she said, you can have this bottle or you can
have me and the kids, but you can't have both.
And you got 24 hours to figure it out. That was
before we had all the technical stuff that we
have now and counseling. My dad is a Marine.
He's a smart Marine. 24 hours later, he said,
I choose you all. Now I wish he would have got
some counseling and got some help, but I'll tell
you what, radical change in his life. Came to
Christ after that. But you know what Easter is?
God looking down from heaven, the Father, the
Son, and the Holy Spirit, of seeing all people
of all times simultaneously in all of our needs
and seeing the chaos and the destruction both
personally and globally. And the Son saying,
I'll go. Let's do an intervention. Let's help
them see that they are messed up and they are
selfish and they need to die and receive life
so they can be resurrected. And so Jesus came
and he did the intervention to rescue us. His
life mission, he said, was I came to seek and
to save those which were lost. And so the first
thing he offered was life because we're on death
patterns. For God so loved the world that he
gave his only begotten son that whoever, underline
the word, believe in him, Should not perish,
but have everlasting life. Circle the word have.
Have, present tense, the moment you believe.
And then the very next verse was probably as
life -changing for me as the first one. For God
did not send his son into the world to judge
the world, but he sent a son to save us. God's
not down on you. God's not down on me. He's not
this angry God whose arms are crossed with a
big club who has a lot of rules and just waiting
for you to mess up, to bang over your head or
knock you on the knuckles. His invitation is
not get religious, get more moral, try harder,
pull up your bootstraps. That's not it. It's
an intervention where you say, how you're living
your life doesn't work. It's bringing death to
you and death to others. I wanna give you life.
There's a gift. And what we're gonna learn is
he went to the cross and he died on the cross
for you. He intervened and said, what you can't
do for yourself, I'm gonna do. And he literally
paid. That's what the word redemption means.
He paid for your sin and paid for mine. And then
he rose from the grave and says, look, Free gift.
But he says, not just life, I'm going to give
you hope. The very last night, he looked into
his disciples' eyes, and he could see the fear
in their eyes. And they'd seen him feed the poor
and raise people from the dead, and they knew
he was the Messiah, but it was like, how is this
going to work? Because you keep talking about
you're checking out. And he said, do not let
your hearts be troubled. You believe in God,
believe also in me. In my Father's house are
many dwelling places, and if it were not so,
I would not have told you. And then listen carefully,
for I go and prepare a place for you. If I go
and prepare a place for you, I will come again
and I will receive you to myself, that where
I am, you may be also. Do you get it? It's about
relationship. It's not about morality. When the
relationship is right, the morality always changes.
But he says, you need hope. You need hope when
your marriage is falling apart. You need hope
when you find out someone you love has cancer.
You need hope when your parents are totally messed
up. You need hope when your biggest dreams were
to get into that school and you didn't get in.
You need hope when you've based all your life
on that athletic career and then boom, it's ACL
and nobody wants you. You need hope when life
doesn't work, but guess what? There's gonna come
a day, and the research is in, 100 % of the population
at some point in time, dies. It's true. So you
know when you need hope? You need hope that there's
someone who's personal and real and who's the
God of the universe who made you, who is preparing
a place and wants you with him. Wants you with
him because he loves you. And then knowing that
in a fallen world, you need peace. I mean, you
get anxious when you don't have enough money.
You get anxious when, you know what, you used
to have a house, you don't have a house. You
get anxious when you don't have a job. You get
anxious. And you know what he says? Don't let
your heart be troubled. And then he goes on to
say, look, I want to give you peace. In the world,
you will have tribulation, but be courageous.
I want you to know I've overcome the world and
the peace that I have. I'm in control. Hey, it's
awful at times. It's difficult at times. I'm
in control of the big tsunamis and the little
tsunamis. I'm sovereignly in control of all that
there is and I will take even all the evil and
all the people and all the bad stuff. And for
those who would turn from their sin and say,
I want a relationship with you, I will do an
intervention and we'll do life together. And
I want to love you. That's the message of Easter.
And the question you ought to be asking is if
that's the message of Easter, what gives this
Jesus the right to make that outlandish offer?
Don't other religions have offers about peace
and life and hope? I mean, what makes you think
this one's real? Right? That was my question.
Jesus makes this offer based on four things.
First, his life. Sinless, revealing God's character.
If we... could have found, if his enemies could
have found one sin, the message of Jesus and
all of his claims go out the window. But instead,
Jesus said, look, here's the deal. I've come
to do an intervention, and you have death. Life,
you want to see what life looks like? See the
poor? I feed them. See the hungry? I feed them.
See the people that have lost close? I raise
them from the dead. If you have seen me, you've
seen the Father. You want to know what God is
like? You see this prostitute? and the messed
up life she's had, and the four partners, go
and sin no more. You see this lady whose heart's
broken, and this guy that's just lost his daughter?
I raise her from the dead. You see people don't
have purpose, and these religious people and
all their pious stuff? I shoot it straight with
them and say, quit pretending. Quit posturing.
Quit being a hypocrite. His life. I mean, it
marks A .D., B .C. All of life is around the
single solitary life that's changed the world.
And second, his death. Colossians chapter 2 makes
it clear that when he died, he didn't just physically
die because he was fully God and fully man. Being
man, he could die. Being God, it could be a perfect
sacrifice. And he... He covered sin. He broke
the penalty of sin. He conquered death and destroyed
the works of the evil one. His life, his death,
and finally he proved it all with his resurrection.
Read the book of Acts, chapters one and two.
This isn't some weird religious philosopher that
had dreams and told people there's a new way
to God. This was someone who was outrageous.
He said, I'm the savior of the world. I'm truth
incarnate. There's no other way but me. He's
either right, wrong, or a lunatic. But you can't
even admire Jesus as a teacher. What kind of
teacher would lie to you? The resurrection proves
that what he said was true. God visited the planet.
You talk about an intervention, he visited the
planet and suffered and lived the perfect life
for you. For you personally, for me. 500 eyewitnesses
for over 40 days that could touch his hands.
They had meals with him. There's a reason we're
sitting in this room. It's not because we're
on the salad bar of the philosophical religious
views of our day. We're sitting in this room
because a real God visited a real planet and
died on a real cross and came back to life and
walked around for 40 days with eyewitnesses and
their lives have been completely transformed.
The tragedy is we've taken that and made it religion.
Because the final point is it's our union with
him. What God has always wanted. The reason he
did the intervention. I mean, you don't do an
intervention so that people end up in a treatment
center and their message is, hey, I go to treatment
centers. I go on Mondays and Wednesdays and Fridays.
I go through the 12 steps. It's a great treatment
center. Have you ever been to a treatment center?
I love treatment centers. Let's be treatment
center people. What you want them to do is have
an intervention and get whole and come back and
love you and be connected to you. The tragedy
of our day and the reason that I opted out of
Christianity as a young person, all they wanted
to do was talk about their religion and telling
me that I wasn't moral enough. I knew I wasn't
moral enough, okay? Give me a break. God's not
trying to improve your morality. God is not trying
to get you to be more religious. He wants you
to be in union in relationship with him. And
when that happens, life, I am crucified. So you
gotta die. I'm crucified with Christ. Nevertheless,
Paul would say, I live. How? Christ lives inside
of me. Well, how does that work? I put the verse
in it. 2 Corinthians 5, verses 14 and 15. The
apostle Paul, the same one who gave us the secret
counterintuitive means to life and hope and peace
says this. The love of Christ controls us. Having
concluded this, that one, for all, that one Jesus.
Notice the result. Therefore, all died. Why?
And he died for all so that those who live might
live no longer for themselves. Do you feel the
dying? It's not about you. Can you imagine living
a life that it's not about you? It's not about
your dreams and your goals and what you can get
and who you can impress. One died, Jesus. Therefore,
all died. And he died so that we can live no
longer for ourselves, but for him who died and
rose from the dead. Therefore, if any man or
any woman is in Christ, he's a new creation.
The old things pass away. Behold, everything
becomes new. He wants the old you to die. And
he wants to allow his spirit to enter your life
and take up residence in you and make a brand
new you. That little word in Christ or in him
happens 200 times in the New Testament. The message
of the gospel, the message of Easter isn't, this
is what I grew up hearing. If your good deeds
are more than your bad deeds, I guess you get
in. And since we're all in denial, no matter
what I did, I thought, well, it's getting kind
of close, but I think I'm doing pretty good.
Right? God says, let me give you, I am holy,
I am pure, one single bad deed, one single thought
because I'm absolute pure in my holiness. You
can't have relationship with me. I don't want
you trying to get better or to prove or to perform.
I want you to be connected to me and I will do
for you what you could never do for yourself.
Let me give you a picture. This has just helped
me so much. Imagine if you will, this is a bolt.
Got that? Imagine this boat is you or me. And
there's certain properties. There's a nature
to a boat, correct? It's made out of metal. And
let's imagine that this little fish tank, I think,
is what we've got here. And this water is staying
on top of the water is being a good person, a
righteous person, a loving person, a person that
cares about others, a person that's pleasing
to God. Left to yourself and your power and your
effort, when you try and do that, does anybody
have any predictions about where this boat's
going? Okay, let's check this out to make sure.
Yep, it's down there. Well, hold it. Oh, no,
no. Well, maybe we should paint it. Or maybe
we could put a little cross on it. And maybe
the boat could go to church now and then. Or
it could really try and maybe give away a little
money. You can do all kind of little things with
the boat, but okay, let's pretend it's painted
and it's really pretty and it's even religious.
Oops, still got a problem. Because the nature
of the bolt in and of itself is powerless. Here's
the intervention. The intervention is the very
life of Jesus, fully man, fully God, who died.
And says when he died, when a person by faith
trusts in him, you died with him, you're buried
with him, so you can be resurrected with him.
Now what's the nature of wood when I put it in
the water? Predictions. It's the fundamental
property of the wood. It will always float. Now,
get this. This is the gospel. This is the good
news. The good news is not that you can try hard,
become religious, read the Bible, go on a missions
trip, give some money, and try and earn your
way to God. The gospel is none of that can ever
work. But by faith, you can turn from your sin
and you can be united with him. See this rubber
band, this blue one here? It's faith. It's that
moment in specific space -time history when you
hear and understand that God in the person of
Jesus Christ died for your sin, rose from the
dead, and offers you new life free of charge
that you could never do. And you turn from your
sin and you say, I can't live this life, but
I want to be connected to you. And you said whoever
believes in you could be connected to you. I
want to be in union with you. See, the scripture
says very clearly, he that has the son has life.
He that does not have the son of God does not
have life. These things I've written to you,
the apostle John would say, that you might know
that you have eternal life. And so when you have
relationship with him, all the properties now
and what's true of Christ becomes true of you.
When you turn from your sin, ask Christ to come
into your life, you're atoned or forgiven. The
Spirit of God enters your life. He begins to
form the life of Christ in you. He seals you
with the Spirit. He takes you from the kingdom
of darkness to the kingdom of light. He breaks
the power of sin. Death forever never can reign
over you again. The moment you die, you will
be ushered into the very presence of God forever
and ever. But you are crucified with Christ.
Nevertheless, look, you're living. But it's not
you, it's Christ in you. That's the message and
the offer. And so the question I have for you
is do you have the son? Do you have the son of
God living in you? If you do, you have eternal
life. If you do not, you do not have life. Notice,
I didn't say, do you go to church? I didn't say,
are you moral? I didn't say, did you read the
Bible? I didn't say, if you give to United Way.
All those things may be very, very good. But
none of them have the power to give you eternal
life. And just like when you make a major union
with another person, it's not just for a certain
day or a point in time. It's for a new life.
There's a new path. It's not about coming to
some service and realizing, oh, I need to be
united with Christ. Oh, Father, please forgive
me, and then go off and live the same way. No,
no, no. I died to my old way of life, and I said
to a cute little blonde -haired girl, I would
like to be united with you all the rest of my
days and be on a new path with you. I did not
say, honey, I want you to know for this day that
I'm giving up my old girlfriends and I want to
be married to you and be united to you and thank
you. I'm glad we're married and I think I'm going
to go kind of do. She would have not been happy
with that. Nor me, her doing that. What I committed
to was a new life that gave me new power to be
on a new path. And that's our final question.
What's the path? What's the counterintuitive
path? that brings life and hope and peace. And
it's summarized in Romans chapter 12, the first
two verses. The same author, he says, I urge
you therefore, my brethren or brothers and sisters
is the idea. In light of God's mercy, in other
words, in light of what he's done for you, here's
the path that you're on so that you receive life
and you're gonna get right back to St. Francis.
Offer your body or present your body as a living
sacrifice, wholly acceptable to God, Then get
the last line. This is your spiritual service
of worship. Translation, this is what God really
wants. Once you turn from your sin and receive
the gift on a certain day at a certain time,
are you ready for this? You gotta die. The reason
there's so many Christians who say I love God
and they pray to prayer and done this and done
that and they live their own life and their lives
don't resemble Christ, they never died. You gotta
die. You're going to say, God, not my will, but
yours. Jesus died before he could be resurrected.
In nature, if it doesn't die, it doesn't produce
fruit. Unless a grain of wheat fall into the
earth and die, it remains by itself alone. If
it dies, it brings forth much fruit. Are you
ready to die? You know what? God may be very
gracious, but are you ready to die to some things
that you think will make your life work? See,
any person, or anything that your life revolves
around, you know what that's called? That you
orbit around? That holds you up? That's what
you worship. Some people, they worship their
job. Some people worship their mate. Some people
worship the fantasy of the success, the win -win
syndrome, when I get the big job, when I get
the house on the hill, when we get the kitchen
remodeled, when we finally have children, when
I finally get married. When I finally make a
lot of money, you know, if I keep working out,
if I can look like this, then. And we spend our
whole days answering emails and responding to
voicemails. Oh, it's busy, busy, busy, busy.
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. For what? So
I can own, control, pose, pretend, and try and
in my own energy be good enough to get people
to love me. And all the while. The one who came
to do the intervention is standing back, Jesus
saying, I've watched this movie a lot of times.
There's not a happy ending coming. There's not
a happy ending in this life and there's a tragic
ending in the next. Will you allow me to forgive
you and do for you what you can never do for
yourself? And will you allow me to come into
your life? And after I do, would you slide over
and let me drive? And I will tell you this, if
I loved you enough to die for you, where I'm
going to drive this car is better than you could
ever dream. The roads will not always be smooth
and they will not take the turns that you always
like. But if you'll listen to what I have to
say, you'll do some counterintuitive things like,
give and you'll receive. You'll love in your
marriage and forgive even when it doesn't come
back and this bizarre thing happens. You get
love back. You'll live the kind of life that
your kids will say, wow, that's the kind of person,
that's the kind of dad, that's the kind of mom
I want to be. Guess what? You can't do this.
Christ in you is the hope of glory. Would you
like to have eternal life beginning today? If
so, I'd like to lead you in a prayer. And for
some, let me tell you, I know, you know, today
is the day, the Bible says, of salvation. You
may not be ready. You know what? But I don't
know when your next window's coming. An intervention
occurred. Option A, I will remain in denial.
I'm doing okay. Everything's okay. I don't have
a problem. Option B, I'm sick and tired of living
the way I am. And I need life and I need hope
and I need peace that I can't get for myself.
And I'm going to die to my way. And I'm going
to ask God to come into my life so I can follow
him. Those are your options. This is Living on
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