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This is the Chip Ingram Sermon Podcast, brought

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to you by Living on the Edge. In this podcast,

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you'll hear Chip's teaching unedited and from

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beginning to end. Here's Chip with today's message

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titled, You Gotta Die. Well, as most of you know,

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Easter is kind of the high day, the pinnacle

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of Christianity. It's a message that you've heard,

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you've sung. It's about life. It's about hope.

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And it's about peace. And if there's ever a time,

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I don't know about in your personal life, but

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in the world that we need life and hope and peace,

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I would say it's about now. I mean, it's easy

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to kind of get focused in on your world and my

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world and my email and my little kind of relationships,

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but the world is a messed up place right now.

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I mean, we're living in pretty historic days.

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I mean, did you ever, ever dream that there would

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be a group of people? A small group, a minority

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who would think that, you know, they get an A

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from the God that they worship by killing people

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they've never met. That's the world that we're

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currently living in. And we got to get our heads

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out of the sand to realize if there is a message

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that's real about life and hope and peace, the

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world needs it now. But it can't just be some

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religious little experience. It's got to make

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sense. The flip side of that is sometimes you

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don't even have to watch CNN or Fox or the network

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news to see what's happening in the world. All

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you have to do is kind of look in your own home.

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I don't know a lot of you very well, but if you

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and I could go get a cup of coffee somewhere

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and say, hey, you know, tell me how you're really

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doing. And I promise not to tell anyone. Just

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what's really, what are the biggest hurts in

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your life in the last nine to 12 months? I will

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guarantee you I would hear about the divorce

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or separation you recently went through. The

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baby that you lost or someone who found out that

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your wife or husband is having an affair. I wonder

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how many people here you'd say, well, honestly,

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I haven't told anybody, but I have an addiction.

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And whether it's prescription drugs or whether

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it's porn or cocaine, I mean, I can just tell

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you, oh, no, that's not it. It's my aging parents.

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No, no, no, no, no. It's my, I lost my job. They

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foreclosed on my home. Our business went under.

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I mean, that's the world that we're living in.

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And here's what I wanted to do in our time together

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because it's really important. I grew up in an

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experience where people had what I called God

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talk and talked about hope and life and peace.

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But it was like spiritual, religious mumbo jumbo

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over here. And then I would go back into the

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real world and I never saw the correlation and

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it didn't seem to make sense in their life. And

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so I want to talk today about how do you really

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find life and hope and peace in a world that's

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really messed up. There was a man many years

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ago named Frank. And Frank had everything that

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we would think would bring life and hope and

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peace. He lived a carefree life. He inherited

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a great amount of wealth. His house would be

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nestled up into the hills. He would have a couple

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luxury cars. His kids had high SAT scores. I

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mean, his life would just be amazingly wonderful

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by all our standards. And he lived that high

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life, but he found there was an emptiness about

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what really brings life and what really gives

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purpose. And so he did something crazy. He heard

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the words and the teachings of an itinerant preacher

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that had lived roughly 1 ,200 years before he

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was born, a man named Jesus. And as he read the

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words, he thought, this is so radical. But I've

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got money, I've got wealth, I've got it all,

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and I'm empty inside, so I'm going to take this

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person, and he follows these words of Christ

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in a very literal way and left everything. And

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he found a small little band of people who would

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say, will you leave everything with me? Why don't

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we try this out as an experiment? Let's radically

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love people. Let's not worry about material stuff.

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Let's just go after it, and they did. That was

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almost 1 ,000 years ago. And his little group

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is still going on. And they live by a motto.

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It's a prayer that he wrote. I think his name

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was Frank when he started off, but later when

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he got to be more famous, people started calling

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him Francis. And his prayer and his motto of

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how to live for life and hope and peace was,

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Lord, make me an instrument of your peace. And

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where there is hatred, let me sow love. Where

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there is injury, pardon. Where there is doubt,

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faith. Where there is despair, hope. And where

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there is sadness, joy. O divine master, grant

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that I may not so much, listen to the counterintuitive,

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grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled

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as to console, to be understood as to understand,

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to be loved as to love. For it is in giving that

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we receive. That's counterintuitive. It is in

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pardoning that we are pardoned. And it is in

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dying that we are born to eternal life. The Franciscans,

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almost 1 ,000 years later, are doing what? Helping

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the poor, living out his prayer. You may not

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agree with all they're doing, but I will tell

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you what. They have experienced a life that's

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impacted millions upon millions upon millions

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of people in the things that money can't buy.

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And as I read that, I thought to myself, where

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did he get those crazy ideas? Now, I know he

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got them from Jesus, but how does it really work?

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Secular scholars say that the Apostle Paul was

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probably the greatest mind of the first century.

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He was from Tarsus. It was a nice town. He was

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a Roman citizen, which was a big deal. He had

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wealth. And his life wasn't making sense. And

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he tried so hard, so hard, so hard, so hard to

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be good. And then he encountered the living Christ.

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And he realized that he had to die. He needed

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to stop trying, stop working, stop attempting,

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stop trying to prove, pose. And he met the living

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Christ. And in the midst of a world, and here's

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what you got to understand. Sometimes we think

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it's really, really bad now. You ought to study

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church history. I majored in history in college.

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You ought to study what Rome was like and what

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it was like to grow up there. You ought to study

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and look at the culture of what the Greeks taught.

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And there was gods on every corner. And there

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was an immorality that makes our triple X porn

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look mild. The poor had unbelievable injustice.

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Greed and power ruled. People got crushed. Women

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had nothing. And in the midst of all that, this

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brilliant intellect said, I am crucified with

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Christ. Nevertheless, I live. Yet not I, but

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Christ lives inside of me. And now this life

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that I live day by day in this physical body,

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I live by faith in the Son of God who gave himself

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for me. And what he was saying was, listen to

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that word, I'm crucified with Christ. He said,

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I had to die. I had to die to my agenda, my selfishness,

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my greed, my demands. I had to die. And Francis

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picked that up and he put it in that prayer that

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he prayed and that prayer that he lived. The

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gateway to the deepest relationships, peace that

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won't go away, and hope that you can have when

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you find out someone you love has cancer or when

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you find out someone you love has hooked up with

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someone else. begins with a death. Because when

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there's no death, there can't be resurrection.

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In one sentence, the Apostle Paul, it's out of

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his letter to the Galatians, chapter 2, verse

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20, says this is how it works. Now here's what

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I want to do. I want to step back and ask, how

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does that really play out? And so we're going

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to ask four very basic questions. Question number

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one, how did we get here? How did the world get

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this messed up? There's chaos out there and there's

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chaos in here. And what I want to tell you is

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the world, this world that we live in now is

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not the world God created. The world that God

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created, the eternal creator of all that it is,

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who spoke the world into existence, created an

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absolutely perfect world. And he created human

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beings that he placed in a perfect world. The

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ecosystem was perfect. The weather was perfect.

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No hurricanes, no tsunamis. There was no death.

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There was no pain. There was no sorrow. There

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was no conflict. There was no wars. There was

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God and the human beings that he made in perfect

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fellowship. But God, in this perfect world that

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he made, wanted to have a very real relationship

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with us. And there's a price for freedom. See,

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you can make robots and have them bow down to

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you or say words to you, but robots don't have

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the freedom to say yes or no. They're programmed.

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God wanted people that would have a real, authentic

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relationship with him because they had to be

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able to do what free moral agents can, say yes

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to him or say no to him. And so what we find

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is the great price of freedom was that we, mankind,

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said, God, I don't want you. I'm gonna do my

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own thing. I think I know what's best for me.

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The world that God created revolved around him

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and his son. Then there was this coup, this rebellion,

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and each one of us try and get the world to revolve

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around us. It's me, and it's mine, and more,

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and gotta have. And there was devastating consequences.

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The theologians call it the fall or when sin

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entered the world. And the impact was it separated

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us from God. It separates us from each other

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and it separates us even from ourselves. You

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cannot imagine how many people deeply, deeply

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do not like themselves because they see who they

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are and who they pose and pretend to be. And

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the scripture says that even the globe, the actual

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earth, the fall impacted. It groans. It's like

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the coup happened and then the entire planet

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got this cancer, this deteriorating disease.

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And so there's earthquakes and there's tsunamis

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and nothing will be made right until the Savior

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who came once will come back as a judge and make

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everything right. But that's how we got here.

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And so there was a need. There's a tremendous

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need. If God cares, what are you going to do

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about this? See, if God made the world the way

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as it is, he's not a very good God. He's not

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a good God. He's not a kind God. He's a cruel

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God. But the world that you live in is messed

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up. God didn't mess it up. We did. But he cares.

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And so the question number two is where is God

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in the chaos? Not just in the suffering that's

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happening in places around the world, but where

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is God in your chaos? In the relationship that

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isn't going well and the anger and the bitterness

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and the people that have talked about you and

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all the junk. Where is God in the chaos? Here's

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the message of Easter. Get this down. Easter

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is about a divine intervention. Anybody here

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know what an intervention is? Anybody had a friend

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or a relative? I have. It's either a crack addict,

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a sex addict, an alcoholic, a prescription drugger,

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cocaine addict. Well, I have I've been involved

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in intervention when my mother did it with my

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dad with us kids You know what interventions

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are? Interventions are people are living in destructive

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ways that are killing them and ruining everything

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and everyone around them And we watch the devastation,

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we watch the pain. And then someone gets the

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courage to say, I'm not playing in the system

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any longer. And you get all the friends and you

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get all the family and usually find a pro who's

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done this before because you need to know what

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you're doing. And you all create this place and

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then usually have to trick them to get them there.

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And he walks in and he goes, oh, what's going

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on? And they say, we love you and you have a

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big problem. And whether it's your alcoholism

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or whether it's your drug addiction or whether

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it's your logging on habit, we care so much.

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We refuse to play the game. We're intervening

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now. And we want you to know there's hope and

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there's a path that you can take. But we won't

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support this any longer. And I'll never forget

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the day my mom did that with our family after

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my dad was an alcoholic for about 25 years. And

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she said, you can have this bottle or you can

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have me and the kids, but you can't have both.

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And you got 24 hours to figure it out. That was

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before we had all the technical stuff that we

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have now and counseling. My dad is a Marine.

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He's a smart Marine. 24 hours later, he said,

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I choose you all. Now I wish he would have got

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some counseling and got some help, but I'll tell

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you what, radical change in his life. Came to

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Christ after that. But you know what Easter is?

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God looking down from heaven, the Father, the

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Son, and the Holy Spirit, of seeing all people

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of all times simultaneously in all of our needs

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and seeing the chaos and the destruction both

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personally and globally. And the Son saying,

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I'll go. Let's do an intervention. Let's help

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them see that they are messed up and they are

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selfish and they need to die and receive life

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so they can be resurrected. And so Jesus came

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and he did the intervention to rescue us. His

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life mission, he said, was I came to seek and

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to save those which were lost. And so the first

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thing he offered was life because we're on death

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patterns. For God so loved the world that he

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gave his only begotten son that whoever, underline

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the word, believe in him, Should not perish,

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but have everlasting life. Circle the word have.

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Have, present tense, the moment you believe.

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And then the very next verse was probably as

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life -changing for me as the first one. For God

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did not send his son into the world to judge

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the world, but he sent a son to save us. God's

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not down on you. God's not down on me. He's not

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this angry God whose arms are crossed with a

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big club who has a lot of rules and just waiting

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for you to mess up, to bang over your head or

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knock you on the knuckles. His invitation is

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not get religious, get more moral, try harder,

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pull up your bootstraps. That's not it. It's

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an intervention where you say, how you're living

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your life doesn't work. It's bringing death to

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you and death to others. I wanna give you life.

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There's a gift. And what we're gonna learn is

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he went to the cross and he died on the cross

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for you. He intervened and said, what you can't

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do for yourself, I'm gonna do. And he literally

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paid. That's what the word redemption means.

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He paid for your sin and paid for mine. And then

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he rose from the grave and says, look, Free gift.

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But he says, not just life, I'm going to give

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you hope. The very last night, he looked into

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his disciples' eyes, and he could see the fear

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in their eyes. And they'd seen him feed the poor

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and raise people from the dead, and they knew

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he was the Messiah, but it was like, how is this

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going to work? Because you keep talking about

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you're checking out. And he said, do not let

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your hearts be troubled. You believe in God,

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believe also in me. In my Father's house are

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many dwelling places, and if it were not so,

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I would not have told you. And then listen carefully,

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for I go and prepare a place for you. If I go

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and prepare a place for you, I will come again

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and I will receive you to myself, that where

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I am, you may be also. Do you get it? It's about

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relationship. It's not about morality. When the

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relationship is right, the morality always changes.

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But he says, you need hope. You need hope when

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your marriage is falling apart. You need hope

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when you find out someone you love has cancer.

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You need hope when your parents are totally messed

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up. You need hope when your biggest dreams were

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to get into that school and you didn't get in.

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You need hope when you've based all your life

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on that athletic career and then boom, it's ACL

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and nobody wants you. You need hope when life

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doesn't work, but guess what? There's gonna come

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a day, and the research is in, 100 % of the population

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at some point in time, dies. It's true. So you

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know when you need hope? You need hope that there's

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someone who's personal and real and who's the

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God of the universe who made you, who is preparing

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a place and wants you with him. Wants you with

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him because he loves you. And then knowing that

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in a fallen world, you need peace. I mean, you

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get anxious when you don't have enough money.

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You get anxious when, you know what, you used

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to have a house, you don't have a house. You

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get anxious when you don't have a job. You get

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anxious. And you know what he says? Don't let

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your heart be troubled. And then he goes on to

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say, look, I want to give you peace. In the world,

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you will have tribulation, but be courageous.

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I want you to know I've overcome the world and

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the peace that I have. I'm in control. Hey, it's

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awful at times. It's difficult at times. I'm

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in control of the big tsunamis and the little

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tsunamis. I'm sovereignly in control of all that

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there is and I will take even all the evil and

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all the people and all the bad stuff. And for

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those who would turn from their sin and say,

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I want a relationship with you, I will do an

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intervention and we'll do life together. And

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I want to love you. That's the message of Easter.

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And the question you ought to be asking is if

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that's the message of Easter, what gives this

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Jesus the right to make that outlandish offer?

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Don't other religions have offers about peace

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and life and hope? I mean, what makes you think

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this one's real? Right? That was my question.

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Jesus makes this offer based on four things.

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First, his life. Sinless, revealing God's character.

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If we... could have found, if his enemies could

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have found one sin, the message of Jesus and

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all of his claims go out the window. But instead,

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Jesus said, look, here's the deal. I've come

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to do an intervention, and you have death. Life,

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you want to see what life looks like? See the

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poor? I feed them. See the hungry? I feed them.

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See the people that have lost close? I raise

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them from the dead. If you have seen me, you've

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seen the Father. You want to know what God is

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like? You see this prostitute? and the messed

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up life she's had, and the four partners, go

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and sin no more. You see this lady whose heart's

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broken, and this guy that's just lost his daughter?

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I raise her from the dead. You see people don't

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have purpose, and these religious people and

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all their pious stuff? I shoot it straight with

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them and say, quit pretending. Quit posturing.

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Quit being a hypocrite. His life. I mean, it

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marks A .D., B .C. All of life is around the

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single solitary life that's changed the world.

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And second, his death. Colossians chapter 2 makes

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it clear that when he died, he didn't just physically

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die because he was fully God and fully man. Being

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man, he could die. Being God, it could be a perfect

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sacrifice. And he... He covered sin. He broke

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the penalty of sin. He conquered death and destroyed

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the works of the evil one. His life, his death,

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and finally he proved it all with his resurrection.

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Read the book of Acts, chapters one and two.

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This isn't some weird religious philosopher that

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had dreams and told people there's a new way

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to God. This was someone who was outrageous.

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He said, I'm the savior of the world. I'm truth

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incarnate. There's no other way but me. He's

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either right, wrong, or a lunatic. But you can't

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even admire Jesus as a teacher. What kind of

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teacher would lie to you? The resurrection proves

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that what he said was true. God visited the planet.

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You talk about an intervention, he visited the

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planet and suffered and lived the perfect life

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for you. For you personally, for me. 500 eyewitnesses

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for over 40 days that could touch his hands.

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They had meals with him. There's a reason we're

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sitting in this room. It's not because we're

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on the salad bar of the philosophical religious

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views of our day. We're sitting in this room

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because a real God visited a real planet and

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died on a real cross and came back to life and

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walked around for 40 days with eyewitnesses and

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their lives have been completely transformed.

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The tragedy is we've taken that and made it religion.

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Because the final point is it's our union with

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him. What God has always wanted. The reason he

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did the intervention. I mean, you don't do an

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intervention so that people end up in a treatment

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center and their message is, hey, I go to treatment

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centers. I go on Mondays and Wednesdays and Fridays.

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I go through the 12 steps. It's a great treatment

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center. Have you ever been to a treatment center?

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I love treatment centers. Let's be treatment

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center people. What you want them to do is have

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an intervention and get whole and come back and

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love you and be connected to you. The tragedy

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of our day and the reason that I opted out of

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Christianity as a young person, all they wanted

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to do was talk about their religion and telling

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me that I wasn't moral enough. I knew I wasn't

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moral enough, okay? Give me a break. God's not

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trying to improve your morality. God is not trying

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to get you to be more religious. He wants you

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to be in union in relationship with him. And

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when that happens, life, I am crucified. So you

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gotta die. I'm crucified with Christ. Nevertheless,

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Paul would say, I live. How? Christ lives inside

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of me. Well, how does that work? I put the verse

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in it. 2 Corinthians 5, verses 14 and 15. The

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apostle Paul, the same one who gave us the secret

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counterintuitive means to life and hope and peace

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says this. The love of Christ controls us. Having

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concluded this, that one, for all, that one Jesus.

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Notice the result. Therefore, all died. Why?

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And he died for all so that those who live might

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live no longer for themselves. Do you feel the

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dying? It's not about you. Can you imagine living

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a life that it's not about you? It's not about

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your dreams and your goals and what you can get

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and who you can impress. One died, Jesus. Therefore,

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all died. And he died so that we can live no

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longer for ourselves, but for him who died and

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rose from the dead. Therefore, if any man or

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any woman is in Christ, he's a new creation.

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The old things pass away. Behold, everything

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becomes new. He wants the old you to die. And

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he wants to allow his spirit to enter your life

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and take up residence in you and make a brand

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new you. That little word in Christ or in him

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happens 200 times in the New Testament. The message

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of the gospel, the message of Easter isn't, this

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is what I grew up hearing. If your good deeds

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are more than your bad deeds, I guess you get

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in. And since we're all in denial, no matter

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what I did, I thought, well, it's getting kind

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of close, but I think I'm doing pretty good.

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Right? God says, let me give you, I am holy,

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I am pure, one single bad deed, one single thought

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because I'm absolute pure in my holiness. You

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can't have relationship with me. I don't want

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you trying to get better or to prove or to perform.

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I want you to be connected to me and I will do

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for you what you could never do for yourself.

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Let me give you a picture. This has just helped

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me so much. Imagine if you will, this is a bolt.

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Got that? Imagine this boat is you or me. And

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there's certain properties. There's a nature

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to a boat, correct? It's made out of metal. And

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let's imagine that this little fish tank, I think,

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is what we've got here. And this water is staying

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on top of the water is being a good person, a

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righteous person, a loving person, a person that

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cares about others, a person that's pleasing

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to God. Left to yourself and your power and your

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effort, when you try and do that, does anybody

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have any predictions about where this boat's

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going? Okay, let's check this out to make sure.

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Yep, it's down there. Well, hold it. Oh, no,

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no. Well, maybe we should paint it. Or maybe

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we could put a little cross on it. And maybe

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the boat could go to church now and then. Or

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it could really try and maybe give away a little

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money. You can do all kind of little things with

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the boat, but okay, let's pretend it's painted

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and it's really pretty and it's even religious.

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Oops, still got a problem. Because the nature

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of the bolt in and of itself is powerless. Here's

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the intervention. The intervention is the very

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life of Jesus, fully man, fully God, who died.

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And says when he died, when a person by faith

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trusts in him, you died with him, you're buried

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with him, so you can be resurrected with him.

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Now what's the nature of wood when I put it in

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the water? Predictions. It's the fundamental

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property of the wood. It will always float. Now,

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get this. This is the gospel. This is the good

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news. The good news is not that you can try hard,

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become religious, read the Bible, go on a missions

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trip, give some money, and try and earn your

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way to God. The gospel is none of that can ever

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work. But by faith, you can turn from your sin

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and you can be united with him. See this rubber

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band, this blue one here? It's faith. It's that

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moment in specific space -time history when you

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hear and understand that God in the person of

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Jesus Christ died for your sin, rose from the

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dead, and offers you new life free of charge

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that you could never do. And you turn from your

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sin and you say, I can't live this life, but

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I want to be connected to you. And you said whoever

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believes in you could be connected to you. I

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want to be in union with you. See, the scripture

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says very clearly, he that has the son has life.

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He that does not have the son of God does not

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have life. These things I've written to you,

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the apostle John would say, that you might know

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that you have eternal life. And so when you have

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relationship with him, all the properties now

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and what's true of Christ becomes true of you.

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When you turn from your sin, ask Christ to come

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into your life, you're atoned or forgiven. The

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Spirit of God enters your life. He begins to

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form the life of Christ in you. He seals you

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with the Spirit. He takes you from the kingdom

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of darkness to the kingdom of light. He breaks

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the power of sin. Death forever never can reign

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over you again. The moment you die, you will

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be ushered into the very presence of God forever

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and ever. But you are crucified with Christ.

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Nevertheless, look, you're living. But it's not

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you, it's Christ in you. That's the message and

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the offer. And so the question I have for you

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is do you have the son? Do you have the son of

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God living in you? If you do, you have eternal

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life. If you do not, you do not have life. Notice,

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I didn't say, do you go to church? I didn't say,

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are you moral? I didn't say, did you read the

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Bible? I didn't say, if you give to United Way.

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All those things may be very, very good. But

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none of them have the power to give you eternal

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life. And just like when you make a major union

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with another person, it's not just for a certain

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day or a point in time. It's for a new life.

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There's a new path. It's not about coming to

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some service and realizing, oh, I need to be

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united with Christ. Oh, Father, please forgive

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me, and then go off and live the same way. No,

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no, no. I died to my old way of life, and I said

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to a cute little blonde -haired girl, I would

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like to be united with you all the rest of my

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days and be on a new path with you. I did not

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say, honey, I want you to know for this day that

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I'm giving up my old girlfriends and I want to

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be married to you and be united to you and thank

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you. I'm glad we're married and I think I'm going

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to go kind of do. She would have not been happy

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with that. Nor me, her doing that. What I committed

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to was a new life that gave me new power to be

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on a new path. And that's our final question.

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What's the path? What's the counterintuitive

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path? that brings life and hope and peace. And

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it's summarized in Romans chapter 12, the first

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two verses. The same author, he says, I urge

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you therefore, my brethren or brothers and sisters

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is the idea. In light of God's mercy, in other

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words, in light of what he's done for you, here's

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the path that you're on so that you receive life

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and you're gonna get right back to St. Francis.

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Offer your body or present your body as a living

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sacrifice, wholly acceptable to God, Then get

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the last line. This is your spiritual service

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of worship. Translation, this is what God really

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wants. Once you turn from your sin and receive

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the gift on a certain day at a certain time,

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are you ready for this? You gotta die. The reason

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there's so many Christians who say I love God

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and they pray to prayer and done this and done

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that and they live their own life and their lives

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don't resemble Christ, they never died. You gotta

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die. You're going to say, God, not my will, but

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yours. Jesus died before he could be resurrected.

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In nature, if it doesn't die, it doesn't produce

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fruit. Unless a grain of wheat fall into the

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earth and die, it remains by itself alone. If

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it dies, it brings forth much fruit. Are you

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ready to die? You know what? God may be very

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gracious, but are you ready to die to some things

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that you think will make your life work? See,

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any person, or anything that your life revolves

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around, you know what that's called? That you

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orbit around? That holds you up? That's what

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you worship. Some people, they worship their

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job. Some people worship their mate. Some people

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worship the fantasy of the success, the win -win

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syndrome, when I get the big job, when I get

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the house on the hill, when we get the kitchen

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remodeled, when we finally have children, when

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I finally get married. When I finally make a

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lot of money, you know, if I keep working out,

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if I can look like this, then. And we spend our

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whole days answering emails and responding to

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voicemails. Oh, it's busy, busy, busy, busy.

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Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. For what? So

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I can own, control, pose, pretend, and try and

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in my own energy be good enough to get people

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to love me. And all the while. The one who came

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to do the intervention is standing back, Jesus

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saying, I've watched this movie a lot of times.

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There's not a happy ending coming. There's not

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a happy ending in this life and there's a tragic

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ending in the next. Will you allow me to forgive

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you and do for you what you can never do for

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yourself? And will you allow me to come into

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your life? And after I do, would you slide over

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and let me drive? And I will tell you this, if

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I loved you enough to die for you, where I'm

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going to drive this car is better than you could

00:33:11.069 --> 00:33:13.990
ever dream. The roads will not always be smooth

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and they will not take the turns that you always

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like. But if you'll listen to what I have to

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say, you'll do some counterintuitive things like,

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give and you'll receive. You'll love in your

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marriage and forgive even when it doesn't come

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back and this bizarre thing happens. You get

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love back. You'll live the kind of life that

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your kids will say, wow, that's the kind of person,

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that's the kind of dad, that's the kind of mom

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I want to be. Guess what? You can't do this.

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Christ in you is the hope of glory. Would you

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like to have eternal life beginning today? If

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so, I'd like to lead you in a prayer. And for

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some, let me tell you, I know, you know, today

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is the day, the Bible says, of salvation. You

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may not be ready. You know what? But I don't

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know when your next window's coming. An intervention

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occurred. Option A, I will remain in denial.

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I'm doing okay. Everything's okay. I don't have

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a problem. Option B, I'm sick and tired of living

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the way I am. And I need life and I need hope

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and I need peace that I can't get for myself.

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And I'm going to die to my way. And I'm going

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to ask God to come into my life so I can follow

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him. Those are your options. This is Living on

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