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Today on Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram.

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Someone has said the greatest social disease

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in America today is loneliness. We all long to

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be deeply connected. And I want you to know that

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God has a plan for developing genuine, beautiful,

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intimate relationships. And he wants you to experience

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that kind of connection with others. Today, we're

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going to talk about how you can experience authentic

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community right now, right where you live. Stay

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with us. Why do so many sincere, Bible -reading,

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God -loving Christians still feel spiritually

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stuck? Well, today on Living on the Edge, Chip

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Ingram tackles that very question, revealing

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the surprising answer, community. It's not about

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trying harder or doing more. According to Scripture,

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transformation requires a very specific environment,

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and most of us have never truly experienced it.

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In today's message from his series, God's Dream

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for Your Life, Chip takes us into Romans chapter

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12 to show us what authentic community really

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looks like and how to get it. Chip titled today's

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message, How to Experience Authentic Community.

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Did you ever wonder why so many Christians get

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spiritually stuck? I mean, the Bible is very,

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very clear. It says, if any man, if any woman

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is in Christ, the old things pass away, behold,

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All things become new. And yet, you know, you

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meet people, and I mean sincere, good. I don't

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mean slackers. I mean people that really love

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God. They've seen transformation in some very

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significant areas, and they're even in the Bible

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on a regular basis, and they really want to grow,

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and yet they hit a ceiling, and then they just

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feel stuck. But as you see on your notes, Part

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of the answer is that the greatest seed in the

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greatest soil cannot grow in the wrong environment.

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Notice in your notes, a little biblical background

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here, the command of Jesus requires very specific

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ecosystem or environment. The very last night

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on the earth, he'd washed their feet and then

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he turned to them and he looked them eye to eye

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and he said, I want you, this is the new commandment,

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to love each other in the same way I've loved

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you. sacrificially, authentically, lay down your

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life for one another, but it requires an environment.

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Here's what I want you to get. The specific environment

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or ecosystem in which the seed of God's word

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in your heart that's honest and good and wants

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to grow is authentic community. It's authentic

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community. Notice the form that it takes is a

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small group. I mean, the group could be three

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people, four people, ten people. But that's just

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the form. That's the container. Never, ever confuse

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just being in a small group with authentic community.

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I've been in small groups that there's no authentic

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community. Haven't you? Authentic community is

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deeper. Authentic community is this environment

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where people lay down their lives for one another.

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Authentic community is where you take a group

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of people and they say, you know what? We're

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going to change the world and we're around Jesus.

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Authentic community is living under persecution

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and hearing God's word and going from house to

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house to support one another to live it out.

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In fact, it raises two very important questions.

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Question number one is what is authentic community?

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And then question number two is how do you get

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it? And the answer to both those questions is

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in Romans chapter 12 verses 9 to 13. If you're

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just new with us, we're going through the...

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chapter in Romans 12. And in verse 1, we learn

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that what God really wants from all of us is

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what? He wants us to surrender to Him, all we

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are, all that we have. In verse 2, we said there's

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an enemy of our soul. There's a world system

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that's trying to woo and seduce our heart away

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from our Savior. And we're not to be conformed

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to this world, but be transformed by the renewing

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of our mind, to be separate from the world's

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values. And we looked at verses 3 through 8,

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and we learned that we're not to think too high

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or too low, but to have a sober self -assessment.

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to know where we fit in the body. And now what

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he's going to talk about is serving and love.

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He's going to talk about what kind of relationships

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are we to have as fellow believers. And if you

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look at your notes there, in verse 9, you're

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going to see that authentic community is the

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real you showing up. Verse 10 is going to say

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that the real you needs to meet real needs. And

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then in verse 11, he's going to say, the real

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you needs to meet real needs, but for the right

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reason. And then verses 12 and 13, the real you

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needs to meet real needs for the right reason

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and do it in the right way. For some of you,

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you love God, you have a good heart, you're taking

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in God's word, but you're stuck. There's a ceiling.

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You have these outbursts of anger and you feel

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terrible about it. You have issues in your life

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that you know you don't want and you've told

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God, I'm sorry, and you want to change and you've

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tried hard to change, but you still don't see

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any radical transformation. I'm telling you,

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this moment on this day may be God's answer to

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the environment in which some of those things

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you've struggled with so long, He can change.

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But it doesn't happen alone. So let's look together.

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What is authentic community? And maybe more importantly,

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how do you get it? First from verse nine, authentic

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community is the real you, not a projection of

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yourself. See, you can't have authentic community

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unless the real you shows up. Authentic community,

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he says, let love be sincere. Hate what is evil,

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cling to what is good. The two characteristics

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of the real you showing up is one, authenticity,

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and two, it's purity. Where the word says, let

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love be sincere, circle the word sincere, and

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right above it, hypocrisy. Paul is borrowing

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from the Greek of his day. And in the Greek theater

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of that day, they were all male actors. And so

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if you were a good thespian, you could be able

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to... throw your voice, and you could play a

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male part, a female part, an old person, a young

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person, and dressed up in different costumes,

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and then there would be a mask that you would

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wear, so you would throw your voice. And Paul

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takes that word for the mask, and that's this

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word. He says, let love be without a mask, without

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hypocrisy. Let the real you show up. Yes, you

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gotta be discerning and you gotta be careful

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of who you share the real you with, but he's

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saying that authentic community isn't just getting

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in a small group. It's when the real you's showing

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up and you let people see who you are progressively,

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wisely, discerningly. In fact, jot in your notes

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if you were Acts chapter five. This is important.

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I mean, this is beyond important. Some people

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never experience this their entire Christian

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life and they can never figure out why they don't

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experience the transformation power that God

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has promised us in scripture. In chapter four,

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it gives an example of this very wealthy man

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who had a piece of property in Cyprus on this

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island, which is the equivalent of like downtown

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San Francisco or Manhattan in that day. And so

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he sells it and he takes the money and he says,

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look. I mean, I don't know this for sure, but,

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you know, I got a second home. You know, this

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is a piece of property. You take this to meet

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the needs of the people in the church. They're

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really hurting. And I think a buzz happened in

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the church where, wow. I mean, it was so sacrificial.

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It was so generous. And people were like, boy,

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I guess this is what it means to love one another.

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And his name was Barnabas. And I think Barnabas

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got this reputation because they started calling

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him the son of encouragement. And the story goes

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on in Acts chapter five. And jot that down because

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before your head hits the pillow, you ought to

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read it. It's not very long. It's very interesting.

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So there's this young couple. I'm guessing they're

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young. Maybe they're not young. But Ananias and

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Sapphira. And so they kind of look around and

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they think, wow, everyone's talking about Barnabas.

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We wish people would talk about us like that.

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We sure wish people would think we're that generous

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and loving and kind. And so they hatched this

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plan. And the plan is, here's what we're going

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to do. We're going to sell this piece of property

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and we'll get the money and we'll tell people

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that we sold it for this much money and like

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we gave it all away. But we'll really keep back

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the money for us so we'll kind of have our cake

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and eat it too. We'll appear generous and loving

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and sacrificial, but we'll still have the major

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part of the money. And so, you know, he comes

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and talks to Peter. God reveals to Peter what's

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going on, and Peter says, Ananias, why have you

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lied to the Holy Spirit? Before it was sold,

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it was yours. After it was sold, it was yours.

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You aren't compelled to give a little or a lot.

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The issue is integrity. And then right there,

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bam, he dies. I mean, literally drops dead. And

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the young men come and pick him up for what?

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His hypocrisy. The very first sin in the church

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is hypocrisy. And the judgment is death. His

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wife comes a few hours later. And I'm thinking,

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Peter's going, I sure hope she's not in on this.

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And so he says, Sapphira, it's good to see you.

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How's things going? Oh, pretty good. How's the

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kids? I'm adding just a little. And he says to

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her, so did you sell this piece of land for such

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and such a price? Oh, yes. You know, Ananias,

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when you're married to such a generous, loving,

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kind, amazing husband like I have, and we sacrificially

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have given it all away, I'm, again, reading between

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the lines. And Peter looks at her, and I think

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just with sadness in his heart, and said, the

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young man's feet who took away your husband shall

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take you away as well. Bam, she dies on the spot.

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And it says a great fear came among the church.

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Yeah, are you kidding? You're listening to Living

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on the Edge, and Chip Ingram will continue today's

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program in just a minute. Today's message is

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part of Chip's series, God's Dream for Your Life,

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and you can hear it anytime at livingontheedge

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.org. Whether you want to revisit what you've

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You'll also find small group resources and opportunities

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to help you live out God's dream for your life.

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It's all there at livingontheedge .org. Well,

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now here's Chip. Now, you've got to understand,

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can you imagine if you've never read the Bible

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before, and this is your first time through the

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New Testament, and you're a brand new Christian,

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you're thinking, so this is what happens to hypocrites?

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I'm in trouble. I mean, literally, it was like,

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whoa. In fact, if God was acting in this way,

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I think he was going to make a point. See, if

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hypocrisy gets in the mix, it's like leaven and

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bread. It spreads. And when people aren't authentic,

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the message of Jesus would have been wiped out

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within a few years. And so God wanted to demonstrate

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how important this was. And I often thought later

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when I was a pastor, if God did that for like

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24 hours in the church all across America, all

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of us would have to turn in our pastor's badges

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and become morticians. Probably a lot of us pastors

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would need other pastors who are doing better

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than us to bury us. But do you get it? Do you

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really get that church, quote, was never ever

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intended to be a group of people that come to

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an event and feel like in some way they're...

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doing something morally positive because they

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come to an event and listen to someone talk about

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God and even sing a few worship songs to him

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and then file out and live life their own way

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and not be absolutely connected to one another

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and have a safe environment where the real you

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shows up. And you know why the real you doesn't

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show up? The same reason the real you doesn't

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show up in me. He says, let love be without hypocrisy.

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And then it says, cling to what is good. Hate

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what is evil. Literally, the word is abhor what

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is evil. Most of us are spending this, I wonder

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if this is wrong. How close can I get to sin

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without falling in? So people in counseling will

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ask me questions like, well, is this rating,

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this rating, or this rating in this movie? Do

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you think it's okay if I can do this? Or, you

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know, we're dating right now, and we're doing

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this, this, this, and this. Is that really sexual

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sin, or can we? Or, you know, we have so much

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money, and I want to know, is it the gross, or

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is it the net, or could I take a percentage?

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You know, it's kind of like, how? Instead of,

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what's it say? Cling to what is good. The issue

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isn't how close can I get to sin, quote, without

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sinning. It's how close can I get to God? How

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pure can I live? Because when you're pure, not

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perfect, pure, the real you can show up because

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you can be honest. And you know one of the most

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powerful and significant experiences you will

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ever have in your life is being in a small group

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of people that's really safe, that really love

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you, and you really love them. And the real you

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shows up. The real you that's making great progress.

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The real you with the frustrations and hurts

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and struggles. The real you with the real problems.

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And as you bring your struggles, you're not judged.

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You're loved. And the real you that needs help

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gets support. And the real you that needs accountability

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and as we all do an occasional kind of rebuke

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and you know, what were you thinking? You kind

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of violated our trust by that. See, that's a

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fundamental part of authentic community and a

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lot of people never have that. And so enormous

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amounts of energy, what we end up doing instead

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of allowing God to transform us, The energy is

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we have to do sin management. And so we're spending

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all this energy trying to either hide or deal

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with our guilt or deal with our shape or drown

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it out with food or work or money or shopping

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or speed. And so when the real you shows up,

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that's the beginning of authentic community.

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But it's beyond that. It meets real needs, not

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superficial or convenient ones. Authentic community

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doesn't happen when you do a little nice thing

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or a little nice thing here and it doesn't really

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cost you very much. Authentic community happens

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when the real you shows up. Notice it says devotion.

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Be devoted to one another in brotherly love.

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Humility. Giving preference to one another in

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honor. Real needs getting met always involves

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devotion on our part and humility. The word devotion

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here is strong. He's saying you need to be committed

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to one another and lay your lives down for one

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another like you would for blood relatives. I

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mean, for people that you feel this moral responsibility

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for. And he says, be devoted to one another how?

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In brotherly love. Philo Delphia. That's the

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word. We named a city in Pennsylvania by that.

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It's this commitment of family love, of being

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there for one another, of doing whatever it takes.

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I thought I knew what it meant to kind of be

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devoted and love. I was a new Christian. And

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after probably, I guess it was about five, six

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years, I'd been coaching for a couple years after

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school. And Teresa and I were married. And we

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had two small kids at this time. And so, I mean,

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I was shocked, literally shocked that God called

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me into vocational ministry. I thought, I just

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can't imagine ever him being able to use someone

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like me. You know, I'm a teacher. I'm a basketball

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coach. I can't imagine being a pastor. But he

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made it clear, so we went to school. And after

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about a year there, built some relationships.

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We stayed in a little apartment complex. Actually,

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it was a huge apartment complex, but it had like

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these apartment here, apartment here, apartment

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here, apartment here. They were little quad things.

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And so you really got to know the people. You

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shared one hallway. And I came home after school.

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It was in my first or second year, and Teresa's

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eyes were all red. I said, honey, man, what is

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going on? Are you okay? She goes, oh, I spent

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all afternoon with Pat, you know, right across

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the hall. I said, well, what's going on? She

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goes, well, her husband left her. I said, oh,

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you gotta be kidding. And they'd gotten really

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close. They had a little boy the same age as

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my little boys. They were all about five years

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old. And she goes, it's worse than that. Bank

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accounts are emptied. He left her. They have

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a like two or three week old newborn and she

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has no money. And we just prayed and cried. I

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thought, wow. So, you know, I'm thinking, My

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heart's really going out to her, so I'm thinking

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it's really spiritual. Honey, you want to pray

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for her? She goes, well, actually, we did that.

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But I've been thinking about it, and we talked

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over dinner. She goes, I think we should, in

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two days, her rent is due, and they're going

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to kick her out if she doesn't have rent money,

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and I think we should pay for her rent. And my

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portfolio at this point is very easy to keep.

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I can keep it in my head. We don't have a savings

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account because there was no need. We had a checking

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account. And I made under $1 ,000 a month on

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straight commission as I went to school full

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time. So I said, honey, if we pay for Pat's rent,

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our rent is due in 10 days. And the moment we

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pay for her rent, we will have $10 in our checking

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account. She said, I know. Oh, you know. When

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you marry above yourself, it's really not very

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good at times, you know. And so it was like.

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You know what? Okay. But you know what it was?

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It was being devoted isn't like, oh, I hope it

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goes well for her. I heard she had cancer. You

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know, that family's going through a rough time.

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No, no, it's like we're in this together. She's

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family. And so, you know, I'm figuring I'm probably

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going to have to learn how to be a pastor someday.

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Might as well start now. And so, okay, Lord,

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here it is. And we write the check. And by the

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way, it was not noble. I think people get this

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idea that when we take big steps for God, yes,

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God. Most of my really big steps are like, yes,

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God. You know, I don't really want to do this.

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I'm pretty. But okay, I'm gonna claim your promise,

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but my God will supply all my needs according

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to his riches and glory in Christ Jesus. You

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said I'd do that, and the context is giving,

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being generous, Philippians 4 .19. I'm standing

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on that passage. Our rent's due. No money. We

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have a three -day grace period. First day, grace

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period, no money. Second day, grace period, no

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money. Third day, hey, yo! Which part of this

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verse am I misinterpreting, or what's the deal?

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And that day in the mail, that day, an envelope

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came, you know, business side envelope. And in

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the left -hand corner, it had a football helmet

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that was green and yellow. And it was from Lombardi

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Avenue. I got a letter from someone from the

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Green Bay Packers. I was like, are you, you know,

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what is this? So I opened the letter and the

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letter says, hi, Chip, I'm sure you don't know

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me. I met you about six years ago or so. I was

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a senior in high school at the time and you taught

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a Bible study in San Jose. And I later went on

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and played college football and I was the first

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quarterback taken in the draft. And I'm playing

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for the Green Bay Packers now. And when you taught

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that Bible study, all I can tell you, I can't

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really remember what you said, but something

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happened that changed the spiritual trajectory

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of my life. And I've never forgotten it. And

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I've not thought of you for six years, but this

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is weird. Out of the blue, you came to my mind

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and I'm supposed to send you this thousand dollars.

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I mean, it was just like, oh. You know what happened?

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I got to experience authentic community. This

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is how God works. This is normal. He puts people

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in your life that you have some more time than

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they have. You have money that they don't have.

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You have energy that they don't have. You have

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spiritual gifts that would help them that they

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don't have. And you don't nod and think, well,

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I went to church. I read the Bible. I went on

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a missions trip. You think, I'm a part of this

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community. And that need is a red light going

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off on my soul to love them. And I will tell

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you what, man, we got tight with Pat. I mean,

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it was like 20 years later, he got a postcard.

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Teresa, you know, I saw somewhere you and Chip

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and da -da -da. I just want a picture of her

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and her grown son and the little one. And you

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know, our hearts were connected to Pat. Why?

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Because wherever your treasure is, your heart

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follows it. And then I got to see that God also,

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that was the first of many lessons. I mean, that

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was a like, ooh. And after that, in the last

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30 years, we've done that scores of times. Scores

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of times, never knowing for sure how God's apply.

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My testimony, he always does. And what we've

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experienced is God. See, at the end of the day,

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you know what most Christians don't know? God

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is real. He's not a philosophy. He's not a formula.

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He's not a moral code. Jesus is a person and

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he's real and he loves you and he made promises

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and he wants you to stand on him and you take

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risks, which are called faith, and you love one

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another and people get love through you and then

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he supplies. When the real you meets real needs

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through devotion and also through humility. Because

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at the end of the day, you know what? You have

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to think more of other people than yourself.

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This is Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram.

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Today, Chip unpacked what it really means to

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do life together. Not just showing up to a small

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group, but letting the real you show up, meet

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real needs, and experience the kind of transformation

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that simply cannot happen alone. That's the heart

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Chip. You know, as we wrap up today's program,

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I... I guess the question I have for you is that

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if a non -Christian overheard you talking or

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was sort of at the next table at a coffee shop

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and heard you kind of talking with a friend,

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would they hear you talking about other people

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or would they hear you talking about information?

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Would it be just sports or what's on sale? Or

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would they kind of eavesdrop and think, wow,

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I wish I had a relationship with someone that

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was that deep, that real? that vulnerable, and

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that authentic. If you don't have close friends,

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then you need to launch a small group. Or if

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your family doesn't have these kind of relationships,

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and don't get me wrong, I know it's hard, you

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got to go there. Because at the end of the day,

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relationships are what matter. And deep relationships

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that matter can't happen without authenticity.

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And you need to be wise about who you do it with.

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But it'll be the greatest thing that ever happens

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because when the real you shows up and the real

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you gets loved, it's awesome. And that's God's

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plan. I'm Dave Drewy with a final question. Are

00:24:41.579 --> 00:24:45.259
you serving God or just serving your image? Join

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