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Today on Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram.

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I'd like you to think with me, who is someone's

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marriage that you think, I would love to have

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a marriage like theirs? Now, here's what I'm

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going to tell you. They have learned one particular

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skill in their marriage that you need to learn.

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And that skill is what I'm going to talk about

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today. Stay with me. Conflict is inevitable.

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It flows from different perspectives, selfish

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desires, and personality clashes. But healthy

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conflict produces growth when addressed wisely

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and lovingly. Today on Living on the Edge, Chip

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Ingram teaches the two predictable patterns couples

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follow. There's the negative dance, defensive,

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blaming, attacking, always focused on I and you.

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Then there's the positive dance where we replaces

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I and resolution becomes possible. If conflict

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feels destructive in your marriage, this message

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offers hope. Here's Chip Ingram with a new message

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titled, Resolving Conflict Peaceably. We are

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looking at skill number three. It's how to resolve

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conflict. Are you ready for this? Peaceably.

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You know, so nobody gets hurt. Number one, here's

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a biblical perspective of conflict. Number one,

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it is inevitable. Jesus said, in the world you

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will have tribulation. So we wouldn't be surprised.

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Second, it flows from our differences in perspective.

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Paul and Barnabas, remember, John Mark was a

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flake. He went back. The next trip, Barnabas

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says, hey, I think we should take John Mark.

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He's the son of encouragement, his gifts, his

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philosophy. Everyone fails sometimes. Let's bring

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him along. Paul is very mission A type. You know

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what? We are not going to sacrifice the mission.

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He blew it one time. The mission is more important.

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If you want to help him, you stick around and

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help him. And it says they had such a sharp disagreement,

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we get our word schism. And Paul and Barnabas

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went different ways. I don't think either of

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them were wrong. One was an encourager that needed

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to help a guy. The other realized, you know what?

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Jesus told me to take the gospel to all the world

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and I can't risk the mission on a guy that I

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can't depend on. So there's differences in perspective.

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Sometimes it's just selfish desires. James would

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say, what are the causes of fights and quarrels

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among you? Don't they come? From your desires

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or your lusts that battle within you. You want

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something. You don't get it. You kill. You covet.

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But you can't have what you want. You quarrel

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and fight. You do not have because you do not

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ask God. And when you do ask God, you ask with

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the wrong motives. That you can spend it on your

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pleasures. You know, behind a lot of conflict

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is just plain old selfishness and sin. And then

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finally, sometimes it's just personality differences.

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Paul has a couple ladies in Euodia and Syntyche.

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And he says they're both great. They're both

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helpers. They're both wonderful people. But they

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can't get along. Maybe it's personality. We don't

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know. But they needed an outside help. They needed

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a counselor, according to Paul. I want you to

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get these two ladies together. They're both super.

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But together, they just rub each other the wrong

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way. All I want you to get is this. Conflict

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is normal, and healthy conflict produces an opportunity

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for growth, but can be destructive unless addressed

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wisely, lovingly, and with rules to govern the

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process. Our text is Colossians 3, verses 12

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through 17. So, as those have been chosen by

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God, holy and beloved, that's who we are. We're

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putting on a heart of compassion, kindness, humility,

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gentleness, and patience, bearing with one another,

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and forgiving each other, whoever has a complaint

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against anyone. Forgiving one another, just as

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the Lord forgave you, so also should you. And

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beyond all these things, put on love, which is

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the perfect bond of unity. And let the peace

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of Christ rule in your hearts to which you've

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been called into one body and be thankful. The

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command is, here's the command. It's real simple.

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We are to deal with our mates as Christ has dealt

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with us and deals with us. Okay, that's the issue.

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If you get nothing else, what would that look

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like if you would say, There's a conflict. There's

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a disagreement. I'm angry. I'm bitter. I'm resentful.

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Why did she do that again? I can't believe he

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did that. We've talked about it a hundred times.

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And when you come together, your one goal is

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I want to treat him or I want to treat her the

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way Christ treats me. Doesn't mean you're not

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going to have conflict. But I'll guarantee if

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you bear with one another, if you forgive one

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another, If you're beyond all these things put

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on love, and if you let the peace of Christ rule

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in your hearts, it'll come out a lot differently.

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Turn the page, if you will, and I want to give

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you this picture before I walk through a little

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acronym that's helped me. Jim Burns is a good

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friend, and he's a marriage and family therapist

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and speaker. And he says there's a negative dance

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and there's a positive dance. And it's very predictable.

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So you start at the top. There's tension, friction,

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problem, pain, misunderstanding. And you can

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fill it in. In fact, for some of you, you don't

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have to think too hard. You can just think of

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some of the real recent ones. The negative dance

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is defensive. Blaming, anger, control, attack.

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And the I language appears. I did this. You ought

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to do that. I did this. It's very defensive.

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The positive dance is there's tension, friction,

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problem, pain, misunderstanding. And the response

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is we. We assume responsibility and we work together

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to resolve the issue. I'm going to give you some

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tools to do that. By the way, in most conflict,

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you have sharks and turtles. Some by personality,

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some by gender. And so in a conflict, there's

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some of you that what you do is instinctively

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because of your background, your personality,

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you just pull your head in. And man, you know,

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all you can get is a shell. And then there's

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those of us, you know, we just swarm the water.

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And you know what? We are gonna, we're gonna

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win and we're gonna attack. And if we have verbal

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skills, we're gonna reframe it. And you did this.

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By the time we're done, we were the problem and

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you feel like it's all your fault. And then you

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realize it's not. And then you resent us. And

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we have manipulated. And we've been unkind. And

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we haven't been bearing with one another. And

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we haven't been forgiving. And we haven't been

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humble. We haven't been patient. But here, it's

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a we. Okay, we have an issue. We'll talk about

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getting that on the table. And then the we issue

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goes to resolution without a win or lose. Okay,

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yeah, this is a problem. How should we solve

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it? What are our options? Let's define the problem

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together. Let's calmly talk about it in a way

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that I'll show you. And what did we learn from

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this? What was really going on? And as a result,

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what happens is you learn about each other. What

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would God have us do in this situation? You see

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it this way. I see it that way. And we're at

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odds. What does the umpire, what's he say about

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this? Or do we need someone from the outside

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since we're at a deadlock because we want this

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to go better? Do we need someone on the outside

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to coach us and help us, mentor through this,

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who's objective because obviously neither of

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us are. And if we could have solved it, we probably

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would have solved it by now. And when you do

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that, then the result is authentic oneness and

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a feeling of being loved. And conflict actually

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becomes something where You grow closer. As iron

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sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. Or

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one man and one woman sharpen another. So how

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do you take a problem and diffuse it, spread

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it out, so you get God's perspective and you

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deal with it? Well, here's the acronym. The D

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is for define the problem on your own. Define

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the problem on your own. Proverbs 15 .4 says,

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The discerning heart seeks knowledge, but the

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mouth of a fool feeds on folly. When you have

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a disagreement, don't start by solving it with

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the person. Get by yourself and ask, What's bothering

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me? How do I feel? When did this all begin? The

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I is for initiate a time to talk. Matthew 5.

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23 and 24 says, therefore, if you're offering

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your gift at the altar and there remember your

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brother or mate has something against you, leave

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your gift there at the altar. First go and be

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reconciled to your brother or your mate and then

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come and offer your offering. You're listening

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to Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. We'll

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continue with Chip's teaching in just a minute.

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The message you're hearing today is part of our

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series, Choosing Love. If you want to dig deeper

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into these powerful principles, the complete

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series is waiting for you online at livingontheedge

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.org. You'll discover additional teaching, downloadable

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resources, and study questions to help you apply

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these truths. Visit us online at livingontheedge

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.org. Now let's get back to the message. When

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I say initiate a time to talk, jot these down.

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Right time, right place. Trying to solve a complex

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problem at the wrong time and the wrong place

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will not go well. It's a time that's good for

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both of you. Don't be pushy, but don't procrastinate.

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No, we really need to meet. Well, I'm exhausted

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now and I go to pick up the kids and I've got

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to do this and I've got to do that. Yeah, and

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I've got a big meeting. Okay, then. Friday morning,

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okay? There's some things that are on my heart

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I just want to discuss. So you've defined it.

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You're clear. You've talked with the Lord. You

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initiate a time to talk. The F is focus on the

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perceived problem, not the person. Proverbs 18,

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19 says, an offended brother is more unyielding

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than a fortified city. and disputes are like

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the barred gates of a citadel. One of the huge

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issues in our marriage was we, neither of us,

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her family didn't have any conflict because it

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was illegal. And my folks, they would have conflict,

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but they came from the school, let's not do it

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in front of the kids. So we never saw how conflict

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got resolved. And my dad blew up and my mom stuffed.

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And you do understand that left to yourself,

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you pretty much do what, not what people told

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you, but what was modeled. And so you gotta,

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when I said some of you, you gotta break out

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of old patterns and develop new ones. And so,

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jot this down. This is going to be important.

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The way you bring up a problem without attacking

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the person is called a I feel message. This was

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on our refrigerator for two years. An I feel

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message. Let me tell you, and I'll just make

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it, because I want you to know that it doesn't

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have to be over a big thing. It's usually big

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stuff under the surface. So, I'm late. Why are

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you late again? Don't you even care? You should

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come home on time. I fixed all this food and

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you don't even care. You don't even give a rat.

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Who are you to tell me what to do all the time?

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My lands. I'm working full time. I'm going to

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school full time. I'm supporting the kids. I'm

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up late. I'm up early. I'm studying Greek. Man,

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I got to have some fun too. Well, silence, bedroom.

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Here we go. Three day journey. All over dinner,

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except it wasn't. What I would learn later is

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I spent all day doing something to say I love

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you and I fixed it. You didn't show up and you

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didn't even call. And what I heard was there's

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no room for me to have a life of my own. I'm

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busting it like crazy. I'm already insecure about

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figuring out how to be a dad to two kids that

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I adopted a year ago. And when you start with

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that, you should, you ought, man, for a man,

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those are fighting words. You ought, you should,

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you always, you never. That's how mothers talk

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to sons. Let me tell you, those are fighting

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words, both directions. Adults don't talk to

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adults like that. That's authority to inferiors.

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Well, then if that's true, then how do you get

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it on the table without saying you ought, you

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should, raising your voice? It's an I feel message.

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So here's the picture. These are the stories

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you're about to hear. The names have not been

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changed to protect not the innocent, okay? So

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this was, you know, we're in counseling and we're

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working through all this. And so, you know, it's

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another time and I'm feeling bad and I'm feeling

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guilty and I'm not going to attack her. But I

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walk in and it was such a great game. I mean,

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we just kept winning. It was so wonderful. And

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there's a brotherhood. There's something about

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hanging with guys you haven't met and doing it

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that I just loved. And so I walk in, and the

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kids aren't around. And the table's set, and

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there's candles lit. And I'm going, oh, gosh.

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Why does she always do this when I play basketball?

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And she's thinking, why does she always play

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basketball when I do this? And so I came in,

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and she was calm in her right mind. No, no, I'm,

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you know, no fire in her eyes. Hey, it's like,

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hey, something's wrong here, you know? It's like

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you're on patrol and you know, I don't know what's

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wrong, but I can feel it. Something's wrong.

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And she goes, are you still hungry? I said, yeah,

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well, it's in the oven. I'll get it for you.

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No, sit down. Candles are still lit. So she gets

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it out of the oven and puts it on the table and

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then she sits down. She doesn't look mad. Is

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this reverse psychology? What's coming on here?

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This is really starting to scare me. So, you

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know, I eat and she lets me eat. And do you like

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it? Yeah. And I'm thinking, I think I'm just

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going to get by with this. You know, and so right

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time. She processed personally what the real

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issue was. Right time, right way, candles. And

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then she looks at me, leans over, eyeball to

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eyeball. She said, Chip, can I tell you something?

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I said, sure. She said, I spent half of the day

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preparing this meal for you because I love you.

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I feel hurt when you don't call and you don't

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get to enjoy this meal that I made to express

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my love for you. I feel hurt. See, you can't

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argue with someone's feelings. And because she

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did it in that way, a gentle answer turns away

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wrath, Proverbs 15. And I mean, it was like God

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used an angel. I mean, I just get up and fight

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like a real man. That was unfair. And for the

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first time. I made the connection between my

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lateness and her heart and what she was experiencing.

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And she didn't nag. She didn't attack. She gave

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an I feel message. And I can remember, oh, dozens

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of times later, guys, bros, man, it's been great,

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super. Man, I got a hot date with my wife. I

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got to run. You want to take my place? And I

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bet I wasn't late three or four times in the

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next five years. Because now it's not about being

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late. I don't want to wound my wife. You do understand

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that your whole life changes too with the Lord

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when you realize that sin is never a behavioral

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issue. It's not I should stop watching porn or

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I should stop cussing or I've got to break this

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addiction or I need to stop losing my temper.

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Those are behaviors. You'll never change until

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you realize, you know, Ephesians says, don't

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grieve the Holy Spirit. It talks about all those

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abusive words and language and malice and slander

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and all those negative things. It breaks God's

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heart. When you could realize that when you sin

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and... When I sin, what really happens, Jesus

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already took my punishment. It doesn't make God

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mad when you sin. It makes him sad. See, he wants

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to be closer to you than you want to be closer

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to him. And when you begin to realize, should

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I do this or not do this? When I knew it was

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going to break my wife's heart, my heart changed.

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I mean, I may be a jerk, but I'm not going to

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treat her like that. But if she wants to fight

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about, you know, time you eat supper, and if

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she wants to control my life, right, all those

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things I say, how did she do it? Can you imagine?

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I feel frustrated when you raise your voice.

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I feel hurt when you bring that up in front of

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the children. I feel wounded when after we've

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talked about that and you said you forgave me.

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In a moment of heat, you bring that up about

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my failure in the past. I feel. We had it on

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the refrigerator and we learned. We learned when

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there was a problem, get alone. Define what the

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problem is. Process the whole thing first and

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before the Lord. Initiate the right time and

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right place to talk and then focus on the perceived

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problem. By the way, I have a little note. Eliminate

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you should, you ought, you always, you never.

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And it's always a win -win or a lose -lose. The

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second F is for feel their pain as though it

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were your own. Proverbs 17, 17 says, a friend

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loves at all times and a brother or a spouse

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or a mate. was born for adversity. No matter

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how angry you are, no matter how hurt, one of

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the axioms of relationships you have to understand

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is everyone acts in a way that makes sense to

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them. I mean, the things that make you nuts about

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your mate, they, by and large, it makes sense

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to them. The way their mind, the way they're

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thinking in the moment, it made sense to them.

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Unless they're just absolutely evil, they weren't

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trying to think, hey, how can I just totally

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screw up our marriage? But they just find themselves

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in the same thing. And as difficult as it is,

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feel their pain as though it were your own. You

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don't have to understand it. It doesn't have

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to be logical. That was a big one for me. And

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my wife's very intelligent. Don't get me wrong.

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But when you're wounded and when you're hurt

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or when things are happening or when you've been

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through things and we all have and you all have,

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sometimes two plus two equals seven. And in your

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brain somehow that makes sense. And if you're

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on the receiving end of that, and what I came

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to is I, I need to feel what she feels. I need

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to understand. It doesn't have to make sense.

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It doesn't have to be logical. But I want to

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identify and I want to emphasize with what she

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is actually feeling. This is Living on the Edge

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with Chip Ingram and a practical lesson on resolving

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conflict peaceably. Chip has more to share in

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just a moment, but remember, if you missed any

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part of today's lesson or just want to revisit

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what you've heard, you can always find these

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lessons online at livingontheedge .org. In our

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series on choosing love, we've tackled spiritual

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intimacy, effective communication, and peaceful

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conflict resolution. If these teachings have

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stirred something in you, Chip's newest book

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takes you even further. It's titled, I Choose

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Love. Here's what makes this resource so valuable.

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Chip demolishes the Hollywood myth that love

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is something beyond our control, a lightning

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strike of emotion we either experience or miss

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out on. Instead, he reveals what Scripture actually

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teaches. Authentic love is a series of intentional

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decisions we make every single day. Get your

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right now, families are being strengthened through

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this teaching. Marriages that felt stuck are

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gaining momentum. Parents are learning to love

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their kids more effectively. This impact grows

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because friends like you invest in getting biblical

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truth to people who need it. Well, now here's

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Chip. As we wrap up the first part of this message,

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I just want to remind you of some things that

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we often forget. Number one, conflict doesn't

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mean you have a bad marriage. Arguments, conflict,

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misunderstandings, hurt feelings, we all have

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those. The difference is, how do you learn to

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attack the problem instead of the person? When

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we collide with our spouse over an issue, If

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we can learn to not allow our emotions to engage

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quickly, our anger or our mouth to get rolling

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before we begin to think and to process and what

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I call diffuse the anger, diffuse the situation

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so it gets spread out and then you get perspective

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and then you have some skills to begin to address,

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okay, what's really going on here? Why do I feel

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this way? What's behind this? What's the highest,

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best, most loving explanation for why he said

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that or did that or she said that or did that?

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In our next broadcast, I'm going to walk through

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some very specific ways to address the core issue

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and how to diffuse that conflict. I'm Dave Drewy,

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inviting you to join us again next time when

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we continue with part two of our lesson called

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Resolving Conflict Peaceably. Don't miss Monday

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on Living on the Edge. Today's program is produced

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and sponsored by Living on the Edge.
