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This is the Chip Ingram Sermon Podcast, brought

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to you by Living on the Edge. In this podcast,

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you'll hear Chip's teaching unedited and from

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beginning to end. Well, here's Chip Ingram with

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a message titled, Love Gives. One of God's greatest

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joys is to see His children love each other.

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Isn't that amazing? The God of heaven, the God

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that created the stars, the God who made us,

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the God who sent God the son to die in our place.

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One of his greatest, greatest joys is when we

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love one another. And you know, I know as a parent,

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I mean, isn't that true for those of you that

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are parents? I had twin boys and Teresa and I

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have sons that are twins and Eric and Jason,

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and they're five minutes apart. I mean, for the

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first 18 years of their life. I mean, at times

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they dressed the same. They had, you know, the

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same classes, the same room, the same everything.

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Did they fight? I mean, fought. I mean, to the

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point of, I mean, physical. And I'll never forget

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the time we came home from a little getaway a

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couple days. And, well, how'd everything go?

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Oh, things were great. Things were great. And,

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you know, they were kind of. standing kind of

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funny against a wall or something. And I didn't

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even notice it. And we had a great time. And

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years later, you know, when families get together

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and adult kids tell you what really happened,

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oh dad, we couldn't believe you and mom didn't

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even notice that Eric and Jason got in a fight

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and Eric went to punch him and he ducked and

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he put his fist through the wall and we patched

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it and painted it. We were so afraid you would

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find out. I remember Teresa saying once, cause

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she grew up with two sisters. She said, do you

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think they'll ever, ever love each other? I said,

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honey, this is kind of normal stuff, yes. I mean,

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we have to set boundaries and discipline. But

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I just want you to get that God's heart, it breaks

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his heart when we fight. It breaks his heart

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when we have feelings inside that are resentful

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and bitter. And when you have an unresolved relationship

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with another believer, another brother, another

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sister, maybe you did business with him. Maybe

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you were in a small group with him. Maybe it

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was in another church. I don't know. But I'm

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going to ask you, get your heart open. God wants

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to deal with because it matters to God, not just

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because it brings him joy, but it's so important.

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It's such a priority to him. If we could eavesdrop

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the very last night when Jesus was praying in

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John 17. I mean, you read that prayer, Father,

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Father. Make them one, even as we are one. You

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in me and I in you and us in them. Father, I

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pray that as I leave, that you would cause there

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to be a supernatural unity in order that the

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world would know. That's a prayer that only you

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can answer in your home. Only I can answer in

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my relationships. And not only does God the Father

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find joy when we love one another, and God the

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Son prays passionately and commands us to love

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one another and says the gospel, its validity

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is based on whether the world sees us love each

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other, the Apostle Paul commands it. In our study

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in Philippians chapter two, follow along I'm

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reading in the Phillips translation. He says,

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now if you experience of Christ, if there's any

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encouragement and love means anything to you,

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If you've known something of the fellowship of

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his spirit and all that it means in kindness

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and deep sympathy, and then here's the command,

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make my best hope for you or my joy come true.

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Live together in harmony. Live together in love

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as though you had only one mind and one spirit

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before you. So just before you open those notes,

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I want you to think about, Is there any relationship

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that you don't have harmony that's out of sorts?

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And I'm pushing a little bit because we tend

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to push these down. Could have been two months

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ago, two years ago, could be 20 years ago, could

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be, you know, an in -law situation or a brother

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or sister you haven't seen in 20 years. God wants

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to get a hold of our hearts and our life. And

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Philippians chapter two is gonna teach us how

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we can choose love and experience it. Now, as

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you open your notes, I want you to see the structure

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of this passage. First of all, there's a very

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clear context. There's conflict without, and

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there's conflict within. The conflict without,

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you know, there was persecution. There was difficulty.

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There was pressure. These Philippian Christians,

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just like Paul, I mean, they were getting intimidated.

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They were getting persecuted. They were having

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struggles and conflicts from the pagan world

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and even from some Jewish false teachers. I mean,

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not a lot different than what we see happening

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more and more and more today is that, you know,

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people are intimidating Christians. People are

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becoming more afraid as believers. to stand up

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and stand strong because of external pressure.

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But in this particular church, there's conflict

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within. We'll learn more about it in chapter

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four when we meet a couple ladies that apparently

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had a real conflict that was causing a rift throughout

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the whole church. And you and I have both seen

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that happen in a small group or in a family or

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in Sunday school class. And so then there's a

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very, very interesting command. I gave the words,

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live in authentic. Christ -empowered unity. Now,

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the way he says it is, make my joy complete.

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I mean, he said, you've brought me great joy.

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You came to Christ. Remember, I was in that Philippian

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jail and we had fellowship and you all came to

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know the Lord and there's this tremendous movement

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happening in this church. He said, so I've received

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joy now. Make my joy complete because since Paul

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is now in Rome, some things have happened, like

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happened in lots of churches and lots of families

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and lots of small groups, you know? This person

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thinks it ought to be this way. And this person

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says, no. And well, you said this to my daughter.

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Well, this is how you treated my son. Well, you

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know, every time you come, you know, you think

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you're the hottest stuff and blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah. And there it goes. And so Paul says,

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make my joy complete. And he says, I want there

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to be authentic Christ empowered unity. In other

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words, he says, I don't want just you to, you

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know, put up with each other. I don't want it

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to be just superficial. From the heart, I want

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you to love one another, resolve the conflicts,

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forgive one another, care for one another in

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a way that Christ has cared for you. Look at

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this very, very interesting structure. The structure

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here, he says, notice it says there's an if -then.

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In Greek, and I won't... get too detailed here,

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but there's called conditional clauses. We have

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them in English as well. But what I love about

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the Greek language, it's so clear. There's like

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three or four types of conditional clauses. So

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when it says, if, then, if, then, you know for

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sure what they're talking about. This is called

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a first class condition. And the idea is it's

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assumed to be true. And so notice what he says.

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He goes, if there's any encouragement in Christ,

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if any comfort from his love, if any fellowship

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with the spirit, if any tenderness and compassion,

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And you could translate all that since you have

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encouragement in Christ, since you have comfort,

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since you have fellowship, since you have tenderness

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and compassion, then make my joy complete by,

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notice, after these four incentives, be of the

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same mind, maintaining the same love, united

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in spirit, intent on one purpose. It's interesting

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here. He's going to tell us that unlike the golden

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rule, which is do unto others as you would have

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them do unto you. His premise goes a little bit

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differently. I call it the platinum rule. Do

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unto others as God has already done unto you.

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In other words, the entire premise, what happens

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in conflicts and struggles and relationships

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is we think just horizontal and they did that

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and they don't deserve that. And when she apologizes

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or when he does that or when one of my kids comes

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back and really says, you know, dad, I'm really

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sorry and I understood this or I understood that

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or, you know, what they said at that last Thanksgiving

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or that family reunion, I'll never talk to them

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again unless what they need to do. He said, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He said,

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here's what I want you to get. The basis of loving

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people isn't how they've treated you, good or

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bad. The basis of our love is a choice. I choose

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love. And here's the basis of the choice. The

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basis of the choice is this is how God's loved

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you. He has encouraged you. He's come alongside

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you. He's forgiven you. been tender, you now

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have the fellowship. He has come to take up residence

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in you. He sealed you with his spirit. He's adopted

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you. He's given you spiritual gifts. A tenderness

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and compassion. The word tenderness here is splachna.

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It has the idea, it's rooted in the idea of something

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deep within the bowels. There's something tender,

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deep in the character of God, that you are his

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treasure. And then the compassion is an outward

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external evidence of an action that you so mattered

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that he did something. And what he did was he

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chose to go to the cross. He chose to love you

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and me when we were his enemies. While we were

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yet enemies, Christ died in our place, Paul tells

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us in Romans 5, 8. And so, The basis, the incentives,

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all four of these incentives, this is how you

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have been authentically, deeply, unconditionally

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loved. Now, make my joy complete and be unified

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authentically from the heart. And now he's going

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to show us exactly what biblical unity looks

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like. Number one, he says, be like -minded or

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of one spirit. Literally, it means think the

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same things. And the focus here is on truth.

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See, genuine unity is built on truth. It's thinking,

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it's content, it's doctrine. These things are

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true. So often, and I see it more and more today,

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it's unity is sort of like, oh, let's just love

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everyone. Don't judge anyone. It's pseudo unity.

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I mean, who are we to say anything? Let's just

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let this slide. Real unity demands truth. It

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demands truth about what the scripture says about

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morality. It demands truth about what the scripture

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says about sexuality. It demands truth about

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doctrine when it talks about the very narrow

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way to go to heaven and by what Christ has done

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in him alone. But it's truth that's held in agreeable,

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winsome, non -defensive, and it's not a way of

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pushing it on other people and it's never argumentative,

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but it's unwavering. steadfast, striving, battling

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for the truth, standing firm, lovingly, kindly,

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winsomely, but refusing to move off. He says

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unity is rooted in truth. Second, he says maintaining

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the same love. He says it's not just about the

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truth. This phrase here is have the same love,

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mutually love one another the way God has loved

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you, honestly, sacrificially. You know, we talk

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a lot about Romans 12 here as the profile of

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what it is to be a disciple. And in Romans chapter

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12, there's a section in the middle about loving

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one another. And it says, outdo one another in

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honor. Be devoted to one another in brotherly

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love. This is the idea. This isn't like some,

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yes. well, you know, she's not as spiritual as

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I am and I guess they made a mistake. And so,

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you know, I'll treat them and I'll forgive them

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because, you know, I am superior. He said, no,

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this has got to come from the heart. Biblical

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unity has to do with a genuine spiritual transformation

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that flows from an internal passion and concern

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that God gives you because you have received

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it. Now you give it third notice. It has the

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idea of united in spirit. Literally the phrase.

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is like -souled. It means to have a common heart,

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not just that you care, a common heart, that

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you're real, that you're authentic. No superficiality.

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And then the last one here is intent on one purpose.

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It's a unity that you say, we're in it together.

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We're going to resolve our issues. What God has

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done for me, I'm commanded to pass on to you.

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Paul, we're going to make your joy complete.

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And here's how we're going to do it. We're going

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to be one mind. truth. We're going to be one

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heart, care for one another. We're going to have

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one soul. We're going to connect. And we have

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a common purpose, the gospel going forward, people

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being loved, the poor being fed, people with

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HIV knowing someone cares, the people that are

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struggling with sexual identity issues know there's

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a church somewhere that cares, that wants to

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help. that doesn't condemn, that doesn't bend

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on the truth, but actually wants to help people

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that are marginalized and struggling. This is

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what he's talking about. And it's that kind of

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love that turned the world upside down and continues

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to turn the world upside down. Family by family,

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small group by small group, church by church,

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community by community. God has called this church

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at this time when it appears that the world is

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falling apart and that America is so divided.

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God is calling you and he's calling me. Make

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my joy complete, my children. I want you to choose

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to love. And when you cross your arms and say,

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not after what they've done to me, or, you know,

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I think those people are crazy and why are these

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people doing this? And why are they tweeting

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that? And I'm so ticked off. Can you imagine,

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honestly? I mean, honestly, can you imagine the

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God of heaven looking down upon the creation

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that he's made and then looking closely at his

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people? The church, I don't mean buildings, people

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within the spirit of God, his living. You talk

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about someone that ought to be ticked off. And

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yet he's patient and kind and gracious. And he's

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saying to you, and he's saying to me, this is

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a priority. This is a non -negotiable. I'm commanding

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you to choose to love one another. Not the golden

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rule, the platinum rule. I want you to love other

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people the way that I've loved you. Now, I hope

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at this point you're saying, okay, I get it.

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And those of you that are a little more honest

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with yourself could be saying, you know, I can't

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do that. And you know what? You'd be right. I

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can't either. In fact, God doesn't expect you

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to be able to do it. but he's going to tell us

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exactly how. So I want you to go back to that

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former business associate, that ex -mate, a dad,

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a mom, a son, a nephew, an in -law, a current

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reality at work, a current, maybe it's not a

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huge conflict, but something that keeps rubbing

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you the wrong way with a roommate or in your

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marriage. And then I want to open the text and

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what we're going to learn from God's word, if

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you're willing, is that we can choose love and

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we can learn how to be a more loving person.

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Now, there's no magic pill. If you think that,

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you know, in the next, you know, minutes or so,

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I'm going to give you some magic pill. Oh, I'm

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loving, I'm loving, I love everybody. No, no,

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no, no, no. we're going to face some hard things

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because what we're going to learn is why we're

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unloving, the drastic approach and what we're

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going to have to deal with in order to become

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loving. And then we're going to start this journey

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of choosing love and I'm going to share some

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real practical ways that every single person

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in this room and every person in the classic

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service and every person that's watching online

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and every person that ever listens to this ever,

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where we can actually go on a journey empowered

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by the Spirit of God and become more loving.

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Notice the right side of your notes, and it just

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asks this question, and we're going to answer

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it in just a minute. And the question is, how

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to become a more loving person? Choose to declare

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war on, write the word, selfishness. Choose,

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declare war on selfishness. And as usual, when

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I go high -tech here, my iPad is not working,

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so I think I'll go with a little bit less technical

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one that you all have. Turn to Philippians chapter

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2, if you're not already there, and let me read

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for you this command. Philippians chapter 2.

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We've looked at verses... One and two, follow

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along here in chapter two as we read verse three

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and four. Do nothing from selfishness or empty

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conceit, but in humility of mind, consider others

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more important than yourself. Verse four, let

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each of you look not only on your own interest,

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but also on the interest of others. You may be

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looking at this and saying, declare war? Aren't

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you getting a little radical here? No, no. We're

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born with this innate ability to be selfish.

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In fact, let me define selfish ambition here.

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Four words. I want my way. That's selfish ambition.

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I want my way. You might jot down, it's a me

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first mentality. I want to be first in line.

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I want the best spot. I want to get on the plane

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first. That's one of mine. I want to get to work

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first. When I go through the buffet, I want the

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best piece of meat. I want the best promotion.

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It's me first. I want my needs met in this marriage.

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I want my mom and dad to come through for me.

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I want my professor to give me what I want when

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I want it. It's a me first mentality. I want

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to be number one. I'm selfish. Now, it's very

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unpopular to admit that. But what is hard to

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see in ourselves, isn't it easy to see in others?

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I mean, you get out on the freeway, are people

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selfish or what? I mean, this isn't like out

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there somewhere either. Anybody here tried to

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get out of the parking lot here? You know, especially

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11 o 'clock service. Now, there are some people,

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you know, very Christian, wave you in. And there's

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some... Some of you that are still working on

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it, let me put it that way. But we're selfish.

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But you don't slide out of being selfish. Even

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though the living spirit of Christ lives inside

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of you and you're born again and you're a part

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of the kingdom of God, there's this battle. The

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Galatians talks about the spirit wages war against

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the flesh. This predisposition toward my way,

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my stuff is rooted in your heart and you'll have

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it until the day you die. But the Spirit of God

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can give you the ability to, in humility, look

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at the second half of that text. In humility,

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consider others as more important than yourself.

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Humility can be a very misunderstood word. So

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I came across a very, very interesting article.

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I think of humility as not thinking too highly

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of yourself, not thinking too lowly of yourself,

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but having an accurate, sober self. assessment.

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As one person said, humility is not thinking

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less of yourself. Humility is just thinking less

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about yourself. Beating yourself up, I'm a terrible

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person, that's not humility. That's not accurate.

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It's just not letting you, it's me not letting

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me be the thing and the person I think about

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all the time. They're doing science now on the

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benefits of virtues, things like forgiveness.

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They've done lots of research on gratitude. You

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may have read some of that. This is an article

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by a professor at George Fox University. It's

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called The Science of Humility. It says, researchers

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have developed scales to measure intellectual

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humility, relational humility, cultural humility,

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and some are now working on spiritual humility

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as well. As with forgiveness and gratitude, humility

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fosters. This is what humility delivers. Are

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you ready for this? Humility fosters physical

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and mental and relational health. Humble people

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are more grateful and forgiving, so they enjoy

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the benefits of those virtues. They're also,

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humble people are more generous and helpful to

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others. Hey, this is a good one. They have better

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romantic relationships. For some of you, get

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humble right away, okay? They have better romantic

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relationships, have less anxiety about death,

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and experience less spiritual struggle. Those

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parents who are concerned about your kids, people

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that are humble perform better at school, show

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more compassion to others, and even have better

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self -esteem than less humble people. So in other

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words, they're doing scientific research. And

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what God has commanded, what delights our Father,

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and what Christ modeled amazingly, is the genuine

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humility. Not putting yourself first, but actually

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considering the needs of others. It's what we

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call around here, and you'll learn more about

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in this series, it's the I am second mentality.

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I mean, it just goes completely against everything.

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I am second. as I go through the line. I am second

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as I drive on the freeway. I am second when I

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think about my rights in my marriage. I am second

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when I think about the needs with my roommate.

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I am second when we're trying to divide something

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and see who gets the bigger piece. The article

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goes on and says that humility, this is very

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important, does not require self -loathing. or

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self -belittling, but it calls for us to dial

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back our normal tendency, are you ready for this,

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to overestimate our abilities and behaviors.

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Now, I never do that, and you never do that,

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but there's some people out there that overestimate

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their abilities and their behaviors, and you

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know I'm teasing. I love it. He goes, there's

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three characteristics of people that are genuinely

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humble. Number one, they have a reasonably accurate

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view of themselves. Neither too high or neither

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too low. Pretty biblical. Number two is they

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care more deeply or have a concern and notice

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other people. And then number three is humble

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people are teachable. So genuine humility is

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rooted in some characteristics and according

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to the scientific study, which actually is...

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pretty biblical, whether they know it or not,

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is that they have a pretty accurate view of themselves.

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In other words, I'm not the center of the world.

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Are you ready? I'm not the smartest person in

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the room. My opinions aren't always the best.

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My perspective of what we ought to do or my decision

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isn't necessarily better than others, but it

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doesn't mean that I don't have good thoughts

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and my decisions and my perspective can be very

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valid. So they don't think too high. They don't

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think too low. The second one is they really

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consider the thoughts, the interests, and the

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feelings of others. Humble people are sensitive.

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Humble people notice the person that when everyone

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gets out and walks out of here, humble people

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see the people that no one said hi to. Humble

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people notice the needs of other people. Genuinely

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humble people, I'm always amazed that, you know,

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maybe I'll have a passing conversation with someone

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and like a week later, two weeks later, like

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get a note or get something in the mail. I was

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meeting with someone a long time ago and they

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watched me fiddle with trying to recharge. You

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know, you got all these rechargers and all this

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different stuff. Out of the blue, a week later,

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I get a package. There's no name. There's no

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note. There's no anything. I don't know what

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it is. I open the package, and it's one of these

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bars that has one, two, three, four, five, where

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you can hook in your phone, everything else with

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the plug, and you plug the thing in. I use it

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every day. Humility. Someone didn't say a word,

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saw I had a need, and addressed the need. And

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third, and I think this is big, they're teachable.

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They realize that they're on the journey too.

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How humble are you? For some of your personalities,

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I just want to say, please, please don't go to,

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oh, I came to church today. I'm a terrible person.

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Everything he's talking about, that's me. I'm

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an arrogant, terrible person. You know what?

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Guess where your focus is at this moment? It's

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on you. At the heart of not being humble, is

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not thinking lowly of yourself, belittling yourself,

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condemning yourself. In fact, the second way

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to become more loving is attack the root of the

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problem. And then I want you to write in the

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word pride. Attack the root of the problem. If

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you will, right underneath where you see verse

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three, circle the world, empty conceit. Do nothing

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from selfish ambition or empty conceit. Selfish

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ambition, selfishness is what we do. The root

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of the problem is why we do it. That's empty

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conceit. Or I love, write this word down. I love

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this phrase. It's an old, old, old version of

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King James. Vain glory, empty glory. You say,

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well, what's vain glory? What's empty conceit?

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Well. A good street name is pride, but that's

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sort of, it's kind of a big word. Let me give

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you some very specific pictures of empty conceit.

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Empty conceit is I'm better. I'm more important.

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I'm superior. I'm more intelligent. My time matters

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more than yours. My life matters more than you.

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I have greater value. I have greater worth. Now,

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you may not say that outside in your head, but

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our behavior, our behavior just screams vain

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glory. I like the way I say that, glory, right?

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It's this, I'm the center of the world and I

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can clothe it with all kinds of Bible verses.

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And I can actually, in a Christian way, do image

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management to try and project I'm humble. Which

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is that the empty conceit, the idea is I want

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everyone to have this amazing opinion of me that

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I either want for myself or actually think I

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have. I made a list because this got very convicting

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and I thought, oh boy. I made a list of some

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ways that when this happens in me, okay? This

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isn't you, this is me. When these things happen

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in me, what I know is vain glory, empty conceit,

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pride is raising its ugly head. And then I'm

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going to talk to you about how to go into training.

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And did you notice the violent words I've used?

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Declare war, attack. In other words, you got

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to get to the root of the problem. This isn't

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about, I think I'm going to try and be more loving

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and I'll tell someone I forgive. No, this is

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heart stuff, root stuff. This is stuff that's

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so deeply in your psyche and in your soul and

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mind that you have to declare war. I refuse in

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light of what God's done for me to be a selfish

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person. I'm going to attack the root problem.

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And the root problem is in my thinking. I become

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the center of things even subtly because in my

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thinking, I think I'm better or I want to project

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that I'm better. In my thinking, my time and

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my money and what I do is more important. It's

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lethal. It destroys relationships. It's unloving.

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And so when these things happen in my life, what

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I know is pride. Defensiveness. Someone makes

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a comment to me immediately. It could be my wife.

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It can be in a meeting. It could be one of my

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kids. It can be someone I don't know very much.

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They say something, we're talking about something,

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and I hear myself, I'm defensive. Well, why?

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Because I've got to guard. I've got to prove.

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I've got to protect. Whatever they've said, that

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sort of hit a button inside. Second, making excuses.

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It's my pride. I didn't do it wrong. I didn't

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mess up. It was them. It was late. It was the

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traffic. If they would have done this on time,

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I would have had it on time. It's, you name it.

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In fact, related to that one is when I hear myself

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blaming other people, I know that's pride. In

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other words, don't look at me and think it's

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my fault. See, humility, you know what humility

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does? And it actually gains. It actually gains.

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the credibility of people. When you actually

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make a mistake, when you're actually late, when

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you really blow it, when you don't come through,

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it's amazing what happens when you say, you know,

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hey, I hope you all will, I just apologize. That

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was a deadline. I didn't hit it. I could give

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you a number of reasons. None of them really

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measure up other than I didn't use my time wisely.

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I went down some bad paths in terms of how to

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solve this problem. I'd like to ask you guys

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to forgive me. You know what normally happens?

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Everyone in the room knows they do that too.

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But so often we blame, we make excuses. In my

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marriage for many years, I remember my wife saying

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this. She said it in the presence of a counselor,

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so it was very unpleasant. Chip, you always have

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to have the last word. Does that ring a bell?

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You always have to have the last word. And I

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had to go into training to realize why. Because

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down deep, I've got to be right. I've got to

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declare. And it was all about these insecurities

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and this pride. I remember evaluating things,

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and especially some of you that are... or if

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you have some leadership or strategic views of

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things, and the challenge is if you're really

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pretty good at it. I remember a number of years

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ago, it was probably a decade ago, I would hope

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it'd be a little bit more, but honestly, probably

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about a decade ago, when I realized, when I evaluated

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things, I had this subtle view that when I looked

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at all the pieces and I aligned all the pieces,

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that my view was the truth. My view. In other

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words, I've looked at this, I've looked at this,

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I've prayed about it, I've got it all together.

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My view of this situation is the truth. And boy,

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did I find out. Either I didn't read the pieces

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right or I didn't have all the pieces. And I

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had a couple of experiences where I was so wrong.

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And now when I have a conversation where I have

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to confront someone and it's really difficult

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and it's really tender, I try to always preface

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it with something like this. Now I want you to

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know that I need to... I need to say a couple

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things that will be hard to hear, but here's

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what you need to hear first. This is my perspective,

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not to be confused with the truth. I don't know

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the reality, but what I want you to know and

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what I'm responsible, this is my perspective.

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I'd like you to take this perspective, and would

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you weigh this before God to see what truth is

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in it? Do you see the difference? My list is

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actually longer. Well, here's one. I was perpetually

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late for almost everything for years. You know,

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the guy that's dashing onto the plane in the

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old years before, you know, there was all that

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security or the person who's rushing in and running

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out of the parking lot and coming in two minutes

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late or five minutes late. I was late, late,

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late, late, late. And I tried hard and it really

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bugged my wife. And then I had a breakthrough.

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My problem was not being late. My problem wasn't

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self -will. My problem wasn't discipline. My

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problem was grandiosity. And when I saw that

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it was so ugly, I changed. Some of you are saying,

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so what exactly is grandiosity? Grandiosity is

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thinking whatever you're doing is so important.

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And if I can say this kindly, we come here on

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a weekend. to adore and give our very best to

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the creator of the universe and the savior that

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died upon a cross to pay for our sin and rose

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from the dead and has given us eternal life.

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The grandiosity to come in 5, 10, 15, 20 minutes

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late. The grandiosity of during a song or during

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this time when I'm teaching the very word of

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God, you checking your email and having your

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phone open. is arrogance. It's just arrogance.

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And, you know, please, you know, I always hear

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pastors say, I don't want you to feel guilty.

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Actually, I want you to feel guilty. If you're

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guilty, guilt's a really good thing. If there's

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genuine sorrow, you repent and you realize, oh,

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I never thought of it that way. I'm not saying

00:35:23.309 --> 00:35:25.230
you thought of it intentionally. I'm just telling

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you what it is. If this was a U2 concert, this

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place would be packed two hours and people would

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rush to get in. When you buy tickets to a movie,

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you don't go a half hour late. See, we have a

00:35:37.170 --> 00:35:40.070
consumer mindset. There is a grandiosity and

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an arrogance. And it needs to be changed. And

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so notice point number three is choose to practice

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humility daily by putting others' needs and interests

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ahead of your own. Don't consider just your own

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interest, although the passage is clear, take

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them into account, but consider the interests

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of others as more important than your own. Where

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are we going to go to eat? Where would you like

00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:11.559
to go to eat? Maybe this person has to get to

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work. It's as important or more important than

00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:19.710
you. What would happen? What would happen? If

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we declared war on selfishness, if we said, I'm

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gonna attack the root of this problem, which

00:36:24.730 --> 00:36:27.369
is really my own pride, this empty conceit, this

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vain glory. And then this week, I'm gonna go

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into training and I'm gonna choose very specifically

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in little, little things that'll grow into bigger

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and bigger things. I'm gonna choose in my money

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to be generous. I'm gonna choose in my time to

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be generous. And we'll talk about exactly how

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very specifically to put that in practice. Ask

00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:55.260
yourself, where does my money go? Loving toward

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God and others or me? Where does my time go?

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Toward God and others or me? Where does my energy

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go? Father, I pray now as there are many, many,

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many relationships that are fractured. And it

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will require only one person to admit at the

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heart of it, regardless of the other person,

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that pride and selfishness and arrogance is at

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the core and a repentance before you. And then

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the next steps of asking forgiveness and restitution

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and even reconciliation in some cases where it's

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possible. So Lord, would you bring to mind in

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this room the people that need to get a call?

00:37:44.909 --> 00:37:49.030
a lunch, a coffee, a text, a letter, a note of

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apology, so that we could love others the way

00:37:53.050 --> 00:37:59.030
you've loved us. This is Living on the Edge with

00:37:59.030 --> 00:38:01.969
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00:38:43.429 --> 00:38:46.030
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