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Today on Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram.

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Do you believe that what you're experiencing

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today is not all there is? Now what if I told

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you right now God is orchestrating events, circumstances,

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people, and relationships to bring about a breakthrough,

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a shift in the status quo, a fresh awakening?

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in your heart of His Spirit and that He wants

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you to get in on the action. The question is,

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will you be ready? Find out. That's today. Do

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you believe what you're experiencing today is

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all there is? What if God is preparing something

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bigger than you can imagine? Today on Living

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on the Edge, Chip Ingram reveals how breakthrough

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actually happens. It's not random. It's not luck.

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Throughout history, God has followed a consistent

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pattern to create windows of opportunity for

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His power to work, a pattern we're discussing

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today. It's part of our series, Experience Breakthrough.

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From the early church to modern -day revivals,

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the formula remains the same, and it starts with

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us getting honest about our need. Well, here's

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Chip Ingram with today's message titled, Making

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Room for Breakthrough. I have a little devotional

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called Magnificent Prayer about prayer that I

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read just about every morning. And I came across

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a quote that literally kind of energized my whole

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view of breakthrough. It's by a preacher of the

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19th century. His name is Phillips Brooks. And

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he said this, pray the largest prayers. You cannot

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think a prayer so large. that God in answering

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it will not wish you had made it larger. Now,

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is that an amazing thought? You cannot pray a

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prayer that no matter how large it was, that

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after you have prayed it, God would wish that

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you would have made it larger. And then I love

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the last nine. He says, pray not for crutches,

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but for wings. Don't pray for a little help to

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get through the situation. Pray to soar. And

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it just reminded me, God is good. I mean, God

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wants to bless you. He wants to intervene. He

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wants to take the most difficult situations,

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the most difficult relationships, the most amazing

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things that you couldn't fathom in your neighborhood

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and at your job and with your relatives and with

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your past and with your struggles, and He wants

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to blow His power into them and change them.

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Can you imagine? Would you just kind of lean

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back for a second and just let your mind imagine

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what it would be like? Can you imagine one of

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your neighbors knocking on the door and saying,

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you know something, we kind of know a little

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bit that you're one of those Christians. Would

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you lead a Bible study in our neighborhood? We

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would like to discover who Jesus is. Or can you

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imagine going into work one day and, you know,

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the person that's a jerk, I mean the person that

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you wish would leave, you know, coming in and

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saying, excuse me, could we talk? And you get

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over there and he goes, I was riding on the bus

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and some really weird looking person started

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talking to me and I just wanted him to go away

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and he talked about Jesus and life and eternal

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life and payment for my sin and I have no idea

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why I was listening but I found myself at a park

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bench later sitting down and I prayed to receive

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Christ and can you imagine that? Can you imagine

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one of your relatives that I mean is just mean,

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cantankerous, that you just think there's no

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hope for and having them calling you and saying,

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you know what, I've just trusted Christ. God

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really loves everyone. God can do anything. What

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would you want him to do? What would you want

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him to do in your life? And maybe it's not a

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neighbor or a boss. Maybe it's like, you know,

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you've struggled with that alcohol, that porn

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addiction, the guilt from the past from a divorce

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or an abortion. You know, just an issue inside

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where you know, you just sense and you've tried

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a number of times. And for you, it's a spiritual

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issue. It's not even a weight issue. It's just

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you keep eating food when you know you're not

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really hungry, and you keep hitting it, hitting

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it, hitting it, and you're down on you, and you

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live in shame. What would happen if the power

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of God was released in your life and then through

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your life? We're going to learn that he wants

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to do it, but we're going to learn also that

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we have to make room. Isaiah 53 is the biggest

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breakthrough. God talks about a Messiah is going

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to come and liberate and bring light. A Messiah

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is going to come and he's going to bring life

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and forgiveness. But in chapter 54, he says to

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Israel at a time when I mean their life is not

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going well and breakthrough doesn't even seem

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possible. He says this to them. Enlarge the place

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of your tent. Stretch out the curtains of your

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dwellings. Spare not. Lengthen your cords. Strengthen

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your pegs. Why? For you will spread abroad to

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the right and to the left. Your descendants,

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I mean, they're in captivity. Your descendants

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are going to resettle cities and nations. God

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is going to use you. He's saying you need to

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make room for the huge and amazing blessing beyond

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what you can imagine is coming. And what I want

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you to do, Is that you and I have to do that

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in our private lives. We got to do it in our

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relational lives. And we need to make room even

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in the church to let God work. So what is a breakthrough?

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It's an offensive thrust that penetrates and

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carries beyond a defensive line in warfare. We're

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in a war. And it's a war for your soul. And it's

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a war for the future. But breakthrough isn't

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something we wait around and hope God will do

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someday, someway, sometime. God has promised

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and wants to. It's something we do. Only he makes

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it happen, but there's initiative on our part.

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It's an act or instance of breaking through an

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obstacle. So breakthroughs have to do with, there's

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resistance. It's difficult. There's a barrier.

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And breakthroughs always have a sudden advance.

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Change happens. There's a difference. We find

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in our personal lives or in a group or in a church

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or in a city or as we see globally, there's a

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great need. And the great need is caused by great

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sin. And sin is just missing the mark. We're

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not doing life God's way. And sin always leads

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to great bondage. People become slaves. Become

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slaves of food, slaves of money, slaves of sex,

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slaves of power. Breakthroughs come when people

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not realize they're in pain and difficulty and

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they're bad people and they don't measure up

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and God would never want them. Breakthroughs

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come when they understand the goodness and the

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kindness of God. It's the tolerance of God. It's

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the love of God. It's the patience of God. Romans

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chapter 2 tells us that leads us to repentance,

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to a change of mind. I want you to know that

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whatever breakthrough you're struggling with,

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whatever breakthrough you would long to see happen

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in your family, the breakthrough will come. Not

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when you're down on yourself and I can't measure

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up, I need to get with the program. The breakthrough

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will come. When you can begin to grasp that God

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is waiting with open arms and he loves you and

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he loves people that you don't think much of

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and he cares about them and he literally wants

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you and me to be agents of kindness and love.

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It doesn't mean there aren't boundaries. It doesn't

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mean there isn't truth. It means that you aren't

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their judge, God is. And the judgment of God

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by and large is just the consequences of people's

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behavior. And then God, over and over and over

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and over, he does it in individuals. He does

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it in families. He does it in small groups. Historically,

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he does it in churches. At times, he does it

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in whole cities. And then there's times where

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we've even seen it in the last 40 or 50 years.

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He does it in nations where there's a revolution

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of breakthrough and the kindness and the goodness

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of God. God's deliverance comes through a clear,

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strong vision of what? of God's goodness and

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mercy. Notice where does this clear, strong vision

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of God's goodness and mercy, it's birthed in

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ordinary people that meet the great needs by

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unleashing God's power in impossible situations.

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What we're talking about is not for special people

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that get in stained glass someday. What we're

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talking about is the God of the universe that

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wants to take the person that's sitting in your

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seat and get you to believe and to trust that

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he's so good and so kind and so willing and so

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powerful that he would use an ordinary person

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like you to receive that and then pass it on.

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If what I just said is true and it's born out

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in scripture, it's born out in church history,

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how does breakthrough actually happen? How does

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it happen? This isn't theory. This isn't what

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ought or should or maybe could happen someday,

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some way. How does it happen? The answer is the

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pathway to breakthrough involves three things.

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But I want you to know the pathway to breakthrough

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involves God's sovereign work in the world, first

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and foremost. Then we're going to see it's his

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sovereign work in his people. And finally, a

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little bit later, we'll see it's his sovereign

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work through. Let's take them one at a time.

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First of all, God's sovereign work in the world.

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When you look at how God has broken through in

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seasons in the Old Testament, in captivity, in

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the coming of Christ, in major things like the

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Reformation, when you see what happened in China

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or in Korea, in South America or in Africa in

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the last 90 or 100 years. The pattern is all

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the same. Number one, there's external pressure.

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External pressure. Stuff starts happening. Economies,

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politics, shifts, famine, plagues, difficulties.

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There's external pressure in the world. Simultaneously,

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there's internal deterioration. This is a picture

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of the Roman Empire. God didn't just come at

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a certain time. Galatians 4 .4 says, when the

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world was pregnant, when it was ready, when the

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world was ripe for a breakthrough, there was

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external pressure. There was ethnic divisions.

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There was problems with the economy. There was

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Romans and Greek culture in conflict. And there

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was internal deterioration, infanticide, families,

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women being passed around, being divorced seven,

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eight, nine times. There was a global crisis,

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and into that breakthrough, Jesus came. And you

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see, that pattern, God sovereignly works. We're

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going to talk about our responsibility, but John,

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if you would, in the corner, Job 42 .2. It's

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near the end of the book, and if you know the

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story of Job, he's been through a lot. And he

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didn't know what was going on behind the scenes.

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But as he gets near to the end of the book and

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sees life for how it is, this is what Job says.

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I know, oh God, that you can do anything and

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that no purpose of yours can be thwarted. I will

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tell you this, no purpose of God will be thwarted

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in your life, in this country, in any nation,

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or in all of history. God is sovereignly at work

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and he will take the air. And the pain, the disobedience,

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the judgment, the faithfulness of people, and

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he aligns those things and he brings about the

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velvet vice of external pressure. And then as

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the way people live begin to deteriorate and

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they realize they have need, he creates windows

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of crisis in individuals' lives, windows of crisis

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in groups and in churches and in cities and in

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nations. And when there's responsiveness, we

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make room. And when we make room, the Spirit

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of God blows with power. And He works in individuals.

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And revolutions occur. And we've seen it happen

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over and over and over. Second, it's the sovereign

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work of God, not just in the world, but He always

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begins with His people. When you happen to be

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a follower of Christ for a while, after a while,

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what we start doing is, you know the problem?

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It's Hollywood. I mean, are they just putting

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out a bunch of lousy stuff or what? Or you know

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what? It's the government. I mean, let's have

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coffee and just talk about the government. Or

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you know what? The educational, right? Or those

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corporations. Or it's all those lazy people.

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What we tend to do is we find someone else somewhere

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where the problem is to blame. And I will tell

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you this. Here's God's perspective. Repentance

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always begins with a household of faith. Here's

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the principle. God must work. deeply in you before

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he will work powerfully through you. That's always

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his agenda. I mean, he worked in Paul. He worked

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in Peter. You look at what happened in China.

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He worked in people, external pressure, persecution,

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kicked the missionaries out. You look at Korea,

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a pagan nation. You look at what's happened in

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South America. You look at the last 90 or 100

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years in Africa. At the current rate, there would

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be more black Christians than white Christians

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in the world because of the movement and the

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power of God. But he always starts in us. He

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always puts his finger on what he wants to do

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in us. And so individuals have a breakthrough

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like an Apostle Paul. And then a group has a

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breakthrough, like the church. And the early

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church breakthrough is to realize, can you imagine

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this? You mean God doesn't just love Jews? I

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mean, this was like hundreds of years of breakthrough.

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He cares about them. And after that breakthrough,

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then you see communities impacted. And as it's

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rolled out of the New Testament, you go from

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the Jews to then the Samaritans, the mixed breed.

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And then by chapter 10, it's the Gentiles. And

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what you see is a spontaneous movement of God

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and often centered around cities. City movements

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are birthed. And nations are transformed. You're

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listening to Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram.

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We'll hear more from Chip in just a moment. If

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you at livingontheedge .org. Now let's get back

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to today's message. In 1857, it's an interesting

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story, and there's many more of these than 1857.

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Morality in America was in the pits. If you know

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some of the research between 1857 and about 1890

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or close to 1900, it went from about the average

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of seven kids to three kids because abortion

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was so widespread in America. And thanks, believe

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it or not, to the feminists and the American

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Medical Society, they said, how we're treating

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women. Abortion was just basically birth control.

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Pushed on women. And in 1857, with external pressures

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and internal deterioration, a group of people

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thought something needs to happen and they started

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praying in New York City. And that little prayer

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meeting, they just began, they took three request

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answers, three request answers, three request

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answers. And all I can tell you is they made

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room for God. And they said, you know, we got

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a big problem and this country is going down

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the tubes and boy, there's all kind of issues

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and it's family issues and moral issues and economic

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issues and pretty soon. Something happened and

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thousands of people were taking their lunch hour

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all over New York and praying. And then pretty

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soon it went to other major cities and literally,

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statistically, millions of people came to Christ.

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And there was a reshifting and a rebalancing.

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Why? Because God worked in his people. But when

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God works in his people, the litmus test is not

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that they get together and go, oh, I love Jesus

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now. We need everything Christian. I love being

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with Christian people and let's read the Bible

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more. And I want to be at church not three times

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a week, but seven times a week. And in fact,

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we'll have Christian bowling and we'll have Christian

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dentists and Christian doctors and Christian

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recording artists and Christian everything. In

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fact, I want all Christian floss with a Christian

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toothbrush made by Christians who make great

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toothpaste. And what happens is The privatization

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and thinking that this movement of God is about

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our little world and there's the bad people out

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there and somehow that we are God's people totally

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misses everything God wants to do. That's not

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a breakthrough. The litmus test of when the Spirit

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of God supernaturally works is He's orchestrating

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things in the world sovereignly. And then He

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begins to work in His people dynamically. And

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then his people get it and they begin to deal

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with issues in their heart and their relationships.

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And then he works through them supernaturally.

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Notice, God's sovereign work through his people.

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Here's what happens. There's life. And since

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it comes, not because I'm trying hard, I'm going

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to church more, I'm praying harder. Oh God, please

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listen to me. It comes because we Christians

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realize the good in life. isn't out there. It's

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from God. We start believing our own message.

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It's the gospel. He's merciful. I'm a Christian

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and I love God and I have an eating disorder.

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I'm a Christian and I love God and I've got one

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divorce in my past and it looks like another

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one's on the radar soon. I'm a Christian and

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I love God and I have this secret habit on the

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internet. I'm a Christian and I love God and

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I hurt my back and they gave me those pain pills

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and now my back's better but the pain pills are

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still with me. I'm a Christian and I love God

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but I'm working like 90 hours and I'm telling

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myself and we feel shame and so what most Christians

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do is try to project everything's okay and fake

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it. Because down deep, you don't believe God's

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good. You don't believe he's patient. You don't

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believe he's tolerant. Unlike the prodigal, you

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don't believe you have a father that's going,

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son, daughter, come home. I understand. You're

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in the pig pen. I mean, you're doing life your

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way instead of my way. I'm not down on you. Every

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day, what did the father do? I wonder if he's

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coming today. I wonder if he's coming today.

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And so Jesus, What he says to the church so he

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can work through, he says, come, come to me,

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all you that labor and are heavy laden or stressed

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out and trapped with sin and shame and difficulty.

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I'm not down on you. All the judgment that I

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have, I've already placed on my son. You're forgiven.

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Come to me. And are you ready? Don't have some

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little emotional experience. Come unto me, all

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of you that are laboring and stressed out and

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under pressure, and I will give you rest. Take

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my yoke. It's a picture of, you know, the oxen.

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And Jesus says, I'm on this side. I want you

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to get your life hooked up with mine, and I want

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you to let me lead. I've got the power. In fact,

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your side of it will be light. My burden is light.

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It's not burdensome. I want you to do marriage

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my way. I want you to do your finances my way.

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I want you to do your thinking my way. I want

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you to discover how much or how little or what

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to do with the media the way I would. Why? Because

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I'm good. Because I want to give you the best.

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And all the mistakes and all the junk, you don't

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have to hide from me. You don't have to be in

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shame. I want to forgive and restore just like

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I did when you first trusted me. And then I want

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to do life with you. And I want to empower you.

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And we need to erase some of those old tapes

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and some of those lies and some of the stuff

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that is just absolutely messing you up. Because

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I'm good. I'm merciful. Do you know what mercy

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is? I mean, do you know what the word means?

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It means you don't get what you deserve. We don't

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believe God's merciful. We think, you know, we're

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gonna come and he's got a big ruler, you know,

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like this cosmic ruler. Whap, whap, whap. Now,

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when we come, we gotta get honest and he'll change

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us. But you gotta come. And when you do, here's

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what happens to all those people around you.

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He's not just working in the world and he's not

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just working in you. He starts working through

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you. And your focus instead of all your energy

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on trying to find the good out there and hiding

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in shame from God is neighbors are known and

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loved. Coworkers observe excellence, integrity,

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and concern. A community's deepest needs are

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met. The poor get fed. HIV patients get a drive

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to their doctor. And you're not concerned about

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how they got it. Because you realize, you know

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what? God, mercy, and goodness is really as much

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for everyone else in the world as it's been for

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you. Paul would say, I was a chief among sinners.

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Some of us are so uptight about people's lifestyle

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or their behavior or where they're coming from

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or the direction of this or that that we're not

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kingdom people anymore. We're our people and

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don't mess up our little world and our country

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like it's ours. I got news for you. The kingdom

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of God is near. And the kingdom is, I want you

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to think about these people the way I do. They're

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hurting. They're lost. They have needs. They

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have hurts. Their relationships aren't working.

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They're in bondage. And I want to set them free

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and love them like I did you. And that begins

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to produce some things. Research tells us when

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a city sees about 10 % of the population converted

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to Christ, you begin to see a ripple effect.

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Then educational, governmental, corporate, and

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entertainment cultures, they get transformed.

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But they don't get transformed by external power

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and saying, this is the way it's going to be

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because we're going to say what happens in a

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country. They get transformed historically and

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biblically because how we live transforms things

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from the inside out. The values are so attractive.

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It's not you Christians against us. It's you

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Christians meeting the deepest needs and living

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the life. I wish I had a marriage like yours,

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the way he repaired it. I wish I had a relationship

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with my kids like yours. I wish my finances were

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in order at a time like this, like yours. I wish

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I experienced peace the way I see you do. Rodney

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Stark's in a very interesting book that's probably

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worth reading. He's a secular author. I don't

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know if he's still a secular author because this

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book, I think, rocked his world. He wrote a book

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called The Rise of Christianity. He's a sociologist

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and he wanted to figure out, because it didn't

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make any sense to him, what were the cultural

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or sociological issues that in the first century

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could begin with a few thousand people and by

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the fourth century, actually, 313 A .D., have

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the majority of the population of the Roman Empire

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be followers of Jesus. It was estimated there

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was about 60 million people in the Roman Empire

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at 313, and about 33 million of them were followers

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of Jesus. And there's no book of Acts, there's

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no miracles, there's no this, no that. All he

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does is he's looking at the research. And as

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he looks at it, he realizes in the first century,

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there's two epic plagues that wipe out, at times,

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a third of the whole population. And so the elite

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run to the hills and run away. But there's one

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group that feed people, nurse people, give them

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food, and in many cases, lose their lives. At

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times, whole towns, two -thirds of towns would

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be lost. This happened twice in the first century.

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And out of all his empirical data, what he says

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is the Christians loved people. The Christians

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cared. The Christians didn't change the culture

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externally. What happened was the people that

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were left were Christians or the people that

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Christians loved. And when your family members

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have died and these are the people that loved

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you and cared for you, there were great conversions.

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Later on in the next few centuries, Starks points

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out that there were three major cultural issues

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that destroy a culture. Number one, he said there

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was no sanitation and there was ethnic division.

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Number two, he said the treatment of women was

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deplorable. And third, he said we had a situation

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where all around the known world, infanticide,

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children were routinely drowned. And what the

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church did is they expressed the goodness of

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God. And they began to clean up and find cultural

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solutions that were creative to sanitation. They

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elevated women as co -heirs of the grace of God

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and in their relationships treated them quite

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differently than a piece of meat to be passed

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around or to be used. And they began to pick

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up the children from the dumps and raise them

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themselves. And he said it was this internal

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magnification of the, he wouldn't call it the

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grace of God because he didn't use those terms,

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or the goodness of God. But from a cultural perspective,

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do you get that's what God wants to do? This

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is Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. Breakthrough

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begins when we make room for God to work in us

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first. That's the pattern throughout Scripture

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and church history. We'll hear again from Chip

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in just a moment, so don't go away. As you think

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about what needs to change in your own life,

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Let me tell you about a resource that can help.

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It's a free 10 -day devotional from Chip called

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Psalms of Hope. You'll journey through three

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powerful psalms, Psalm 1, Psalm 15, and Psalm

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23. The format is straightforward. Chip provides

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10 minutes of teaching each day. Then you take

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10 minutes to pray and meditate on what you've

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learned. just 20 minutes daily for 10 days. If

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you're feeling spiritually stuck, or if you need

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fresh assurance that God is good and wants to

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work in your life, these ancient songs will speak

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directly to your situation. They've sustained

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God's people for thousands of years, and they'll

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sustain you too. Get started today by going to

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Well, now once again, here's Chip. As we close

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today's program, I realize we have really covered

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a lot of material. And as my wife often reminds

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me, Chip, you talk so fast. So let me encourage

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you, if you happen to be in the car or on the

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treadmill, or maybe there's some kids in the

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back seat, or you're on one of those Pelotons

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and you're grinding it out, let me encourage

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you to go to livingontheedge .org and download

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the message notes. When I taught this for the

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first time and then I began to share it in small

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groups, I have to tell you, I watched God break

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through. I watched God do things in people that

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they thought were impossible. And what I want

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to remind you is that it doesn't happen just

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by listening and hearing and intellectually acknowledging.

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What we learned in today's message is God sovereignly

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works in the world. Means right now, at this

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moment, he's working. He's working in your circumstances,

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the good and the bad, what you think is ugly

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and difficult. He's orchestrating things. It's

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like that picture of the beautiful tapestry.

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And when you look on the one side, it is really

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beautiful. But if you look on the backside, I

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mean, there are knots and strings and all kind

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of junk. And God is orchestrating things in your

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life to bring about good. And many of those knots,

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many of those strings, many of the difficult

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things, he's really preparing you. He's creating

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a new level of dependence as you lean in and

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as you seek him. He wants to bring about the

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best in your life. But often, are you ready?

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It gets harder or it gets worse before it gets

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great. All through scripture. Remember the disciples

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when it was like, hey, there's 5 ,000 people.

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And hey, by the way, you guys feed him. And they

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go, it's impossible. He says, well, what do you

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have? God allows impossible situations to create

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dependency that make you and me lean in in a

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way like never before. And then when we get to

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the end of ourselves and we trust him, there's

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breakthrough. In our next program. I'm going

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to be sharing the personal path to breakthrough.

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Don't miss it. What does God need from you to

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unleash His breakthrough power? I'm Dave Drewy,

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inviting you to find out tomorrow on Living on

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the Edge. Today's program is produced and sponsored

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by Living on the Edge.
