Today on Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram.
Let me ask you, how will your kids or your grandkids
remember you? What will you give them that will
last forever, that will never fade away? How
do you leave a legacy that lasts forever? That's
today. Stay with me. Yes, most of us have estate
plans to pass along to our families once we die.
But here's the question. Have we invested equal
energy into transferring what truly matters,
our faith and our values? Today on Living on
the Edge, Chip Ingram tackles the first and most
critical lesson, teaching those we love to suffer
well. You see, in a fallen world, suffering isn't
a question of if, it's a question of when. And
how our children, grandchildren and disciples
respond will either make them or break them.
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right now with his first message in the series
called Leaving a Legacy That Lasts Forever, here's
Chip Ingram. Well, I want to start our little
journey out together, if you will, with a hypothetical
but morbid set of questions. How's that? All
right? It's hypothetical, but these are morbid
questions. The hypothetical situation is this,
but I want you to really do it with me. I don't
want you to, you know, lean back and go, well,
it's hypothetical. I want you to sort of engage
and say to yourself, here's the hypothetical
situation. If you knew with absolute certainty
that you would die exactly 365 days from today.
Okay, have you got it? exactly 365 days from
now to the minute, you would have a massive,
not painful heart attack and you would be dead.
And you would be translated, if you're a follower
of Jesus, into the very presence of God. With
that as the hypothetical situation, I have three
questions. Question number one, who are the top
five people you feel most responsible to repair
for your passing? I mean, just quickly in your
mind, who are the top five people you know 365
days from now you are going to be gone? So who
are the top five people that you need to prepare
for your passing? Kids, grandkids, friends, people
you're discipling, co -workers. I mean, who would
it be? You got it? Question number two. What
would you want to pass on to them in the next
365 days to bless and promote their success after
you're gone? And you got exactly 365 days to
bless them, to help them, to prepare them. What
do you want to pass on? Wealth? Wisdom? Heirlooms?
A business? And education, I mean, who are they?
And you got 365 days. What do you want them to
get that when you're dead, you can say, well,
hey, you know, at least I gave them this. What
is this? You ready for question number three?
It gets more morbid. When you make them up yourself,
you can make them as morbid as you want. Question
number three, if you died exactly 24 hours from
now, instead of one year from now, what would
you most regret that you did not pass on to those
you love? I mean, you got thinking about who
they are. You got thinking about what you really
want to pass on. But then what if all the rules
quickly changed? And instead of a year from now,
24 hours from now, you find yourself in Jesus'
presence. That's the good news. But then when
you look back and you said, When I think of my
kids, when I think of this friend, when I think
of this grandchild, when I think of this young
man or this young woman I was discipling, when
I think of this group of men that I was in accountability
group with, when I was thinking about this women's
fellowship I was in, you know, my biggest regret
was I didn't pass on. What would it be? What
would it be? Here's the fact. The fact is you
and I are passing on who we are. and what we
value and what we possess every single day. For
some people, this is a highly strategic, very
intentional game plan that you're fulfilling.
You know who the people are. You know what you
want to pass on. You have a plan to pass it on
and you look at your calendar and your day timer
and you are very strategically passing on the
things that matter most to you. For most of the
rest of us, it's sort of a haphazard, hoping
for the best highway of sorts that you're kind
of passing some stuff on but you're not really
sure what you're passing on and it's filled with
lots of good intentions and you're going to get
real clear about it and more serious about it
later and unconsciously you think you're going
to live a lot longer than you are. And the average
person will fail to pass on the things that matter
most to the people they love the most. In reality,
most followers of Christ have given far more
thought and energy into developing a game plan
to transfer their wealth than they have their
faith or their values. I mean, I'm guessing,
I won't ask you to raise your hand, I'm guessing
most people have a will. I'm guessing most people
have some sort of an estate plan. Well, why?
Because you realize there's X amount of dollars
and there's taxes and there's issues and you
want to pass on some of that wealth to a friend
or an organization or your kids or your grandkids.
And so you've thought what, how much, to whom
and why. And isn't it interesting that we're
real concerned about who gets money, but how
concerned are we that they get our faith and
that they get our values and they get the kind
of stuff that money can't buy? Yet the Apostle
Paul commands his son in the faith, Timothy,
to do just that. To pass on what matters most.
Notice what he says in 2 Timothy 2 .2. The things
you've heard from me. Timothy, you've heard it
in small group talk. Timothy, you've heard me
preach it. Timothy, you've heard me face to face
when I've had to say hard things to you. Timothy,
you've heard it in Ephesus. Timothy, you've heard
it after I got up when I was beaten. Timothy,
the things you've heard from me in the presence
of many witnesses entrust or pass on these two
faithful men who'll be able to teach others also.
He was talking about the principle of transfer.
He was talking in our day about sinking something.
He was talking about, look, Timothy, let me give
you the picture. God has uploaded the truth of
his spirit and these values in my life and my
relationship with Christ and the application
to every area and every relationship and it's
been uploaded supernaturally by the Holy Spirit
and the word of God and the community of the
saints. I have a responsibility and Timothy,
the reason I ask you to hang out for me, I'm
downloading it into you and your soul. I want
you now to upload it to get it practical and
I want you to download it to others. But not
just anybody, but to others who are faithful
so that they will do what? They'll download it
to others. Transfer, transfer, transfer. So let
me ask you, what are you gonna leave your kids?
What are you gonna leave your friends? What are
you gonna leave the people that you disciple?
What are you gonna leave your grandkids? What
are you gonna leave your spiritual children?
What are you gonna leave your church? And will
it make them or break them? Will it give them
what they need to make the kind of choices and
the kind of decisions that will allow them to
be God's man, God's woman in their generation?
Will they have the values and the perspective
and the faith and the regard and the view for
God that will sustain them through a world that
keeps getting crazier and crazier and crazier
and more carnal? Or will they sit in a little
room and have someone pull out a little will
and they'll read a few little lines and find
out they got the grandfather clock, they got
the earrings, they got 11 .5 % of the estate,
but they never really knew your heart. They never
knew your passion for the word of God. They never
knew the secrets you learned in your marriage.
They never knew the forgiveness that you received
after your abortion. They never knew what it
was like. To grow in Christ and what it was like
to live with an ailing mate and to serve them
and love them for years and where you got the
strength. See, that's the stuff that'll sustain
that you pass on. Apostle Paul talks a lot about
life as a race. In 1 Corinthians 9, he talks
about running a race and not wanting to be disqualified.
When he gets to the very end of his life, 2 Corinthians
chapter 4, he says, I have run the race. I've
fought the fight. And this picture of a race
is not only just finishing well, but Paul sees
life as a relay race. And he sees that the relay
race is the truth and the life of Christ deposited
in him is like a baton that he has to pass on
to the next runner. And if you're a sports, especially
track and field, you realize that in terms of
the track and field world nationals, we've had
the fastest team twice. And we've dropped the
baton in the Olympics in the four by. And then
two years later, they dropped the baton again.
And see, that's where failure in the race usually
occurs. It's in the exchange. And what we're
going to talk about in our time together is what
is it that really needs to be passed on and how
practically do you pass it on to those that you
love the most? And you'll see here, it says five
core values that we must pass on to the next
generation. And I remember a very sobering moment.
It was a number of years ago and some of you
remember the Columbine shootings. And I was pastoring
a church at the time in California. It was growing
very rapidly and lots of people were coming and
I had kind of kids at all different age levels.
And I remember thinking because of the nature
of the people who committed those crimes and
what happened, I remember asking myself, what
is it? that I want to pass on to my kids? And
what is it that I want to pass on to the church
that money could never buy? And I began to think
and pray. And by that time, I'd been a Christian
quite a few years and a pastor for a number of
years. And I realized, you know what? At the
end of the day, it's not all these little rules
or it's not how often they do this and it's not
this external behavior and it's not how often
they go to church. It's not if they just read
their Bible here or if they do this or if they
learn to give off the top. All those are practical
things. But what I realized is there are values.
And if there was some core values that you could
kind of upload in your heart from God and download
into their hearts and they were really a part
of who they were, you wouldn't have to worry
about anything else. And as I began to pray and
ponder that, I realized what I really wanted
to pass on to my kids, my grandkids, my friends,
the disciples in the church, I want them to learn
to suffer well. I want them to learn to work
unto the Lord. I want them to learn to manage
their wealth wisely. I wanted to teach them to
make wise decisions. And I wanted to have them
learn to live grace -filled lives. And I just
can't wait to share those five things in our
time. And just not what they are, but how do
you pass them on? And so let's start with, it
says radical sustained change always begins with
our thinking, not our behavior. And I really
want to emphasize this. In our day, and especially
among... Christians, I think we have overemphasized
behavior. And out of our fears, we want our kids
or the person we're discipling or our grandkids
or our friends or the people in the women's group
or the men's academy group, their behavior, the
behavior. What are they doing? What are they
doing? What are they doing? What are they doing?
And somehow we get thinking if we can just get
them reading the Bible and praying and giving
and going to things and maybe even a short -term
missions trip. And we focus on this exterior.
And by the way, no problem. All those things,
when done for the right reason, are very, very,
very wonderful conduits of grace. Lasting change
always starts with your thinking, not your behavior.
When the Apostle Paul wanted to teach about how
lasting supernatural change occurs, after 11
chapters of truth, he opens up... Romans chapter
12. And says it begins with offering yourself
as a living sacrifice. And then he says don't
be conformed any longer to this world. But be
transformed. It doesn't say by going to church
more often. It doesn't say by trying harder.
It doesn't say by cleaning up your externals.
But be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
It's a change of perspective. It's realizing
God's on your team. It's looking at sin differently.
It's realizing that the things the world offers
are cheap and insignificant and won't pay off,
and you agree with God about those things. He
changes how you think. And he says, by the renewing
of your mind, and then you will test, literally
experience or approve what God's will is, that
which is good, acceptable, and perfect. And so
what we're going to talk about, and I just want
to get this kind of on the table early, is this
is not going to be, you know, a bunch of different
things we can get people to start doing. Now
they will do things, but what you want to do
is give them a new worldview. You want to give
them a completely new perspective. You want them
to think differently so it soaks from their head
and concept about what the scriptures teach and
who God is and who they are and their identity
and how they think about values and money and
people and relationships and sex and priorities.
And what you want them is to have a completely
different worldview and a set of values that
plant in their heart so they begin to live out
of this identity in Christ and they own it for
them versus external religious activities of
trying to somehow please God and, you know, get
a couple, you know, brownie points on that big
refrigerator in the sky, wherever it is. And
so that's what we're going to talk about. Transferable
concept number one. And this may sound strange,
but teach them to suffer well. Teach them to
suffer well. We have raised a generation of people,
when they think of suffering, the only concept
they can think of is how to get out of it, how
to limit it, and how to avoid it. And unfortunately,
it's not biblical, and unfortunately, it sets
them up with really bad expectations. Let me
give you a theology of suffering, if you will.
I'll go through it rather quickly, and then each
time I'll give you the theology, and then we'll
talk about the practice. But a theology of suffering
goes something like this from Scripture. Life
is hard, but God is good. Okay, life is hard.
Your kids, your disciples, your grandkids, your
friends, people in the ladies' group, they come
to Christ. Something hard hits them. Gosh, what's
going on? Life is hard. The very last thing Jesus
said, he could have said a lot of things, John
16, 33. In the world, you will have tribulation,
trouble, difficulty. But I've overcome the world.
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Bible teacher, Chip Ingram. We need to help people
understand life is going to be hard and filled
with trouble, but God is good. Jot, if you will,
Psalm 8411 next in your notes to God is good.
The Lord God is a sun and a shield. The Lord
gives grace and glory. No, no good thing will
he withhold from those who walk uprightly. He
has a good plan for us. He loves us. He's for
us. He delights to be generous to us, but it's
in the context of a difficult world. Second,
life is unjust, but God is sovereign. Sovereign
is the key word. Life's not fair, but God's in
control. Luke 13, you might jot down. I mean,
a group of people came to Jesus and said, hey,
what's going on here? Did you hear about this?
The Tower of Siloam fell on this certain group
of people. And Jesus said, well, do you think
they were more unrighteous than other people?
His point is, it's a fallen world. Bad things.
Are you ready for this? Non -Christians get cancer.
Ready for this? Christians get cancer. Non -Christians
get hit by drunk drivers. Are you ready? Christians
get hit by drunk drivers. The economy caves in.
I don't know about you, but I don't think, was
it isolated? Only non -believers, 401ks are now
101ks, right? It's a fallen world. But God's
in control. Romans 8, 28. He will work all things
together for good. To who? To those that are
called. To those that love him. But the good
isn't always external circumstances going your
way. The ultimate good is he'll use everything,
what? To make you like his son. Because God's
primary agenda is to make you holy, not happy.
Now there's a lot of happiness that comes with
it. Let me give you the Old Testament roots of
this. It's Genesis 37 through 50. It's the story
of Joseph. Now think about this. There's 50 chapters
in the book of Genesis. This is the most foundational
book of all of scripture. Almost every major
doctrine is introduced in Genesis. It's the book
of beginnings. We get creation, you know, we
get Abraham, we get the entire line, we get even
early with Noah. I mean, you get all these thousands
of years and yet 13 chapters, that's over 25%.
It's about 28 plus percent of the entire book
about one man. Why? What is the story about?
It explains what happened between Genesis 1 and
2 and 3. In Genesis 1 and 2, we have a perfect
world with a loving, perfect God in a perfect
environment that wants his best for his people.
And then we have a coup, and there's a rebellion.
And this rebellion is, God, I don't want your
way, and there's a willful sin, and so sin enters
in. It's called the fall is what theologians
call it. And so sin enters the human race, and
we have been a rebellious people ever since,
but God is a redeeming God, so he takes Adam
and Eve and gets them out of the garden and sets
a guard so that they can't eat from the tree
of life and be in this state permanently. But
now God in his sovereignty and in his love is
going to orchestrate, even through the bad decisions,
the ups and downs, and the evil and the sin,
he wants to work for man's good, and the life
of Joseph is the story. of how God works good
in us and through us in the midst of a fallen
world to bring about the highest and best for
us and to accomplish his purposes. And that's
why for those of you that are still in the, you
know, reading stories to your kids stage, Joseph
needs to be one of the most heroes in your home.
Or you grandparents, or those of you who are
doing Bible study, you need to early on get people
identified with Joseph. Because guess what? They're
going to be sold into slavery of some kind. They're
going to get betrayed by someone. They're going
to have someone slander them. They're going to
be forgotten, right? Isn't that all a part of
life? And do you remember the very end of the
story? I call it the Genesis 50 -20 principle.
Joseph is at the end. Remember, God exalts him.
He becomes the ruler of all of Egypt. He saves
the nation of Israel. He saves the... chosen
people. He actually saves, you know, Pharaoh
and Egypt and all the rest. And then when dad
dies, his brothers still don't get, you know,
what's going on. And so when dad dies, they start
making up little stories. This is a loose translation
of the text. This is a little Ingramism here.
So, I mean, basically they're thinking, you know,
Joseph was really nice to us why dad was alive,
but now he's gone. I think he's, I mean, we betrayed
him. We were thinking about killing him and we
just, you know, sold him instead. And we used
him and abused him and I bet now he's going to
get back at us. And I just had this picture of
Joseph leaning kind of on his staff and shaking
his head and said, guys, you still don't get
it, do you? Genesis 50 verse 20. As for you,
you meant this for evil, but God meant it for
good to bring about this present result. And
I think he's looking over the land to preserve
many people alive. See, you've got to teach your
Bible study friends. You've got to teach your
kids. You've got to teach your grandkids. You've
got to teach them that, you know what? It's a
fallen world. Life is hard. Life is unfair. God
is good. God is in control. And just like Joseph,
he will actually use the most painful, difficult,
sinful, injustice, betrayal, everything you go
through to fulfill his ultimate purposes if you,
like Joseph, say, you know, I don't always understand
this, but I'm not bailing out. I'm going to trust
God. And you know, what would it be like that,
you know, God gave him this dream. This is what
I'm going to do with you. I'm just thinking when
he's in that cell, hey God, where are you? And
when he gets falsely accused of rape, God, where
are you? When he gets forgotten, you know, by
the guys after he interprets the dream, God,
where are you? But he doesn't. God, I don't understand.
But I'm confident of this. And he didn't have
this verse, but it was still true then. that
he who began a good work in me will perfect it
until the day of Christ Jesus. And so we need
to have a clear picture. The other biblical profile
is Jesus, and Peter gives us the explanation
of Jesus' role in teaching us about suffering.
1 Peter 2, 21 -23. It says, To this you were
called. Put a circle in your notes around the
phrase, to this. Because I want you to think
about what is the to this. You're called to this,
whatever it is. Because Christ suffered for you,
leaving you an example that you should follow
in his steps. So circle the word example. And
now you've got the answer to this. You were called.
I was called to what? To suffer. What? I thought
we were. If we believed in God and we loved him
and we gave off the top and read our Bible in
the morning and prayed real hard and were nice
to everybody and tried to be a good person that
God was going to make our life work out and everything
would be wonderful and we'd never get sick and
we'd have more money and our kids would be upwardly
mobile and someday, someway, we'd end up at Thanksgiving
and sing Kumbaya with all the 11 grandkids. You
mean that's not the way it is? No! Whatever part
of that you get, praise the Lord, press ahead,
I'm glad for you. God didn't promise it. Here's
what he promised. To this you were called because
Christ suffered for you, leaving you example
that you should what? Observe it and wonder?
What's it say? That you should follow in his
steps. And then by the way, when you think it's
unfair, just so you get the story, he committed
no sin and no deceit was found in his mouth.
What's the point? He's absolutely innocent. I'm
not and you're not. I mean, a lot of the suffering
I get because I'm stupid and sinful. I've made
dumb decisions and I've had sinful acts. He didn't
do anything wrong. I mean, I get upset when I
feel like, gosh, I'm really innocent. I'm getting
a raw deal. Well, he did nothing wrong. When
they hurled insults, injustice, he didn't retaliate.
When he suffered, he made no threats. You do
this, I'll get you back. I got a couple legion
of angels, guys. You just wait. I mean, that
wasn't it. Instead, listen to what he did. He
entrusted himself to him who judges justly. Here's
what you've got to understand. The model was,
it's not fair. I'm being wrong. I'm being betrayed.
I've done nothing wrong. I'm not going to retaliate.
I'm following and blazing a trail that I want
you as my children, my followers to follow with
me. And when you don't understand it and when
it hurts and when it seems unbearable, you entrust
your soul to a faithful creator, a heavenly father
who's sovereign and good and all wise and will
bring about the best possible ends by the best
possible means for the most possible people for
the longest possible time. It's a classic definition
of the wisdom of God. And who longs to bless
and is the most generous being in the universe
and who's going to orchestrate this present injustice
suffering for your good and his purposes as you
entrust it to him in the midst of your pain.
That's learning to suffer well. That's commanded
in God's word. And my fear is we have unconsciously
or in some ways consciously taught a whole generation
of people. That if you're really good and do
the right stuff, everything comes out your way.
And Jesus really is kind of like a self -help
genie. And what he wants to do is make you happy
and wonderful and have no problems. And if you
have enough faith, nothing will ever go wrong.
Do you see how people get set up to be very bitter
at God and very disappointed and feeling like
God doesn't care because this is the truth. So
what you need to do is have a very specific game
plan to teach your friends, your disciples, your
children, your groups, and your kids and grandkids
how to suffer well. I was getting in my car with
my son who was about early 20s at the time, just
beginning his musical career, was sort of in
the band stage of In the Van. Riding all over,
doing what they call gigs and leading worship.
And little by little, kind of making progress.
But he had a friend that he came up with. And
my garage was very loud many, many years. And
John and Jason were always playing music. And
then they would bring it inside. And there was
keyboards here and keyboards here and the piano
here. And then John would bring his drums. And
their buddies would bring their electric guitars.
And somewhere I said something about pursue your
passions in a moment of weakness. And John was
a young man. He was a prodigy. John played guitar,
piano, violin, mandolin. John could pick up an
instrument and two weeks he'd be playing it on
stage. And they would, you know, we had a little
small Saturday night worship. And so John and
Jason, you know, even as young guys would help
out and do that. And John began to write some
songs. As Jason said one time, you know, John
had more musical ability in his little finger
than in my whole body. And my son Jason is sort
of the focused, persevering, hard -charging,
won't -give -up type personality, and they just
became fast friends. And we would kid John. John
was very thin. I mean, very, very thin. You know,
like, John, you know, if you stick out your tongue,
we think it's a thermometer and, you know, all
that kind of stuff. And we would tease him, and
he'd milkshakes and tried to lift weights, and
he was just... No matter what he did, he was
just, you know, you turn sideways, John is gone.
And Jason was kind of traveling around. I'd come
home, and I'd gotten a phone call from his mom
and dad and said, Chip, John's over here in the
hospital, and they've run some tests, and we
now know why he's been so skinny so long. He's
got a slow -growing type of cancer, and we're
here. His fiancée's here. Could you come by?
And I remember sitting on the bed and looking
at John. reading Psalm 46 out loud together and
then going through about a 9 or 10, 11 month
journey or so. And then I remember getting in
the car with Jason and John was musical and so
the worship leader and two or three of us and
my son and he looked like he had been in a concentration
camp as the cancer had eaten him out. He was
probably 80 pounds and gaunt. And it was the
last day that he lived and we sang worship songs.
and then we left, and John died the next day,
but I sat in the car with my son Jason, and he
looked at me and said, Dad, why? Why would God
do this to John? I don't get it, Dad. Life's
not fair. Dad, I mean, he's got more ability.
Think how God could use him, and I'm healthy,
and I have to try so hard that he can just do
it. Why, Dad? And we cried together in the car.
And then I could say, son, here's what you need
to understand. There's more to life than right
now. And I don't have a quick, easy answer about
John. I don't understand. But I can tell you
it's a fallen world. And in a fallen world, good
godly people get cancer. And it's a hard world.
And it's an unfair world. But listen, son. God
is good. And God is in control. And you just
have a window of opportunity where we hurt and
we grieve. will respond to suffering. And I will
just tell you, that was one of the most profound,
teachable moments I've ever had with my son.
This is Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram.
He's showing us how to prepare our kids and grandkids
for suffering. And this teaching comes from the
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an encouraging word about the next generation
coming up in just a moment. Well, Living on the
Edge is celebrating 30 years of God's faithfulness.
And what started as one man's ministry on radio
has blossomed into a full -blown movement of
God. Last year alone, this daily program has
been listened to more than 100 million times.
It's staggering to see what God has done through
His people. And today, our heart longs to reach
the next generation. with the timeless wisdom
of the Bible, providing those young men and women
with honest answers to tough questions. Chip?
Picture this. It's 2 a .m., and a mom can't sleep.
Her daughter has just come home from her first
semester at college, and over dinner earlier
in the day, she just casually mentioned that
she's deconstructing her faith. The mom's mind
is racing as she looks at the digital clock.
Where did I go wrong? What do I say? How can
I help her without pushing her away? Well, I
want you to know Living on the Edge has heard
that story from a lot of people, and we've become
a lifeline for parents and grandparents in that
exact situation. We're providing moms and dads
with tools and language and a biblical framework
to help meaningful conversations with their kids
about doubt and faith and truth. We did a series
where we interview people like Rebecca McLaughlin
or Sean McDowell, or we have teaching and resources
about how to actually start conversations when
your kids start down that path without pushing
them away. Your gift to this match doesn't just
reach the next generation directly. It equips
parents to become spiritual leaders with their
kids that are in desperate need. I have to tell
you, lots of parents are changing their theology
when their kids change their values. That just
can't happen. But they don't want to lose their
kids, but they don't know what to do. When you
give to this match, you're helping us help a
parent stand firm on the Word of God, but then
have a pathway to share their heart lovingly
and kindly with a child who's been indoctrinated
with things either from college or from the media
or on the Internet. Would you help us reach the
next generation by equipping moms and dads who
can literally talk to their kids in a way that
makes sense, that's biblical, that's winsome,
that's kind, and doesn't compromise the truth?
You can respond to Chip right now by giving online
at livingontheedge .org or by calling right now,
888 -333 -6003. Our collective gifts to Living
on the Edge will accelerate the launch of critical
new initiatives to reach a skeptical generation
with the truth of the gospel. Together, let's
make an impact by giving generously to the match
that's active right now. This means that every
dollar you send is automatically doubled in size,
having twice the impact. To send your donation
in the mail, address your envelope to Living
on the Edge, P .O. Box 3007, Atlanta, Georgia,
30024. You can also call 888 -333 -6003 or visit
us online at livingontheedge .org. Well, I'm
Dave Drewy. Join us when Chip Ingram describes
how to teach your kids and grandkids to suffer
well. Tomorrow on Living on the Edge.