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Today on Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram.

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In times and circumstances that are overwhelming

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and everything in you wants to give up or to

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give in, your number one need is perspective.

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Perspective is the antidote to discouragement.

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How do you get perspective? That's today. Don't

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miss it. Ever feel like giving up? Like the challenges

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are too great and the darkness too deep? Well,

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you're not alone. Pastors deal with discouragement

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too. And as a pastor, Chip Ingram understands

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firsthand what it's like when nothing seems to

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work, when prayers feel unanswered, circumstances

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grow worse, and hope feels distant. But whether

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or not you're a church leader, we all face dark

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days that tempt us to throw in the towel. Well,

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today on Living on the Edge, Chip Ingram reveals

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God's prescription for rising above our challenges

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through faith, hope, and love. Before we get

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started, remember that Living on the Edge has

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let's get started with the message from Chip

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Ingram, A Theology to Believe. God's going to

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take His Word today, and He's going to speak

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to that very specific discouragement in your

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life and in mine. Discouragement is the number

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one destroyer of God's plans for our lives. Just

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before we receive God's highest and best, many

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of us throw in the towel. You know, I've had

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some times and I've counseled so many hundreds

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of people right before God is at work. And, you

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know, the habit, the addiction, the struggle,

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that it has just been a stronghold in your life.

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God is working, working, working, working. And

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just before he answers and delivers, so many

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people give up. Now, what I want to do is I want

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to develop three very practical, specific principles

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to help you. Slay the dragon of discouragement.

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Or as I like to say, hanging tough in tough times

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demand first that we get God's perspective on

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our circumstances. How do you do that? By looking

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at our circumstances through the eyes of faith.

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That's exactly what he calls us to do. Look at

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your current circumstance. Remember, what is

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it that's discouraging you? What is it that's

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difficult and painful right now that you just

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think, I can't take it. I can't take it. Look

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at it through the eyes of faith. What is it that

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God's going to do because you're trusting what

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you can't see? You're trusting his promises.

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You're trusting his character. How do you do

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that exactly? Well, you need to understand that

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the Lord has you in a position to develop a work

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in you. that's primary and even more important

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than the work through you. So don't get discouraged

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just by faith. I mean, remember I wrote for 20

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months, there's a passage in Psalm 25 that God

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gave me that said, Chip, I will instruct you

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in the way in which you should go. And for 20

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months, I'm going, Lord, and you know what he

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gave me? Here's what you do today. Here's what

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you do today. Here's what you do today. I kept

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saying, what about six months? What about six

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years? What about 10 years? Lord, I have visionary

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gift. I need to know where I'm supposed to go.

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And what he said is, I'll show you what you need

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to do today. And I'll give you grace to do it

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today. And what I didn't realize, I had no idea

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that God's purposes for my family, my marriage,

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my children, my grandchildren, and the ministry.

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They were going to expand and expand and expand.

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And when God's going to do something wide through

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you, he first has to do something deep in you.

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And when God wants to do something deep in you,

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he has to remove the pillars and the dependency

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of your arrogance and your pride and your trust

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in people and wanting the affirmation of others.

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And he will strip you in ways for your good because

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you're so precious. But it's painful. So in your

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discouragement, can you say, if it looks like

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I have little, you should boast in your high

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position because you are dependent. And I would

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love to say, I would love to say it. And after

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35 years as a pastor, I would love to tell you

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this is true, but it's not. I would love to say

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that when things are going well and when they're

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easy and when all the relationships are good

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and circumstances are wonderful and we have lots

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of money, that we just trust God, that we go

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to deep levels with the Lord. The fact of the

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matter is, all of us, all of us have to have

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seasons where God takes the things that we trust

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in and he sets them aside so that we have him,

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just him. And God's doing that right now. He's

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doing it in the world. He's shaking people. He's

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shaking communities. He's shaking the church.

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He's shaking the world. The question is, will

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we listen? Will we humble ourselves and be dependent?

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So the first thing we need to do is look at our

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circumstances through the lens of faith. The

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second thing we need to do is get God's perspective

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on our future. And how? By looking at our future

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through the lens of hope. See, our hope, if it's

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in the now, if it's in what I can see, if it's

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in the ministry, if it's how people are responding

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to me, if it's in my bank account, if it's in

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things going well or not going well, my circumstance,

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what do we learn? It goes up and it goes down.

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He says, you need to take what you're experiencing

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right now, whatever is discouraging you. And

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he goes, I want to give you another new set of

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glasses. After the glasses of faith, you set

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those down. And now you put on the glasses of

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hope. Listen to what the Apostle Paul said. Therefore,

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we do not lose heart, though outwardly we are

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wasting away. Yet inwardly, we're being renewed

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day by day for the light and momentary troubles.

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are achieving for us an eternal weight that outweighs

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them all. So we fix our eyes on not what is seen,

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but what is unseen. For what is seen is temporal,

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and what is unseen is eternal. He tells him,

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I'm telling you this after I've been shipwrecked,

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I've been beaten about three times, I've been

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left in the sea. I mean, he is viewing all of

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his temporal difficulty, pain, circumstances.

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through a lens of hope and what God is preparing

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for him, not just now, but forever. The third

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thing that we need to do is get God's perspective

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on our circumstances, God's perspective on our

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future, and now God's perspective on our motivation

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by looking at our motivation through the lens

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of love. Here's the question, and this is different

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for all of us, and this is very personal, so

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I want you to lean back. I want you to really

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think. for a moment before you would immediately

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answer, am I willing to enter into the fellowship

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of his suffering? Are you willing, like the Apostle

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John and the Apostle Peter, to consider a privilege

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and a joy to suffer for the sake of Christ? You

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see, in the early church, As they were beaten

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and taken in by the Sanhedrin, and they went

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back there in Acts chapter 2 and 3 and 4 and

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told the other believers what happened, they

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were filled with joy, being counted worthy to

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suffer for the Lord. It's out of loyalty. The

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Apostle Paul would say, I want the fellowship

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of his suffering. There's something about a love

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for the Lord Jesus that when you are suffering

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because you refuse to give up, refuse to give

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in, that is very, very precious. And what I would

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have to admit to you is that sometimes when I've

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worked hard, I've tried hard, I've prayed hard,

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I've ministered hard, and circumstances don't

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get better, and I don't feel better, and candidly,

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I'm not very happy, and I wish God would change

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things and change them faster. What I have to

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admit privately is that my motivation is really

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about God working my life out instead of me being

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willing to experience whatever I need to experience

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for me to express my love to Him. I remember

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a number of years ago teaching a seminar. It

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was in Hong Kong at the time and I was meeting

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with a group of pastors and that evening I had...

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dinner with a pastor who happened to be a house

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church leader and evangelist. And he was telling

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the story and we had helped him with some resources

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and helped him with what he was doing in terms

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of discipleship. And as he was traveling, doing

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evangelism, the church was meeting in his house,

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and the Communist Party came. It was a remote

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area. And his wife said, no, no, I'm the pastor.

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I'm the pastor. None of these people are here.

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And she got all the people to leave, and they

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took her down to the police station. And for

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two days, they beat her to a pulp. And he came

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back from his evangelistic trip and found what

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was happening. And I'm listening to the story

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and in my mind's eye, thinking about my wife.

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And as he's telling the story, I'm just thinking,

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boy, if someone did that to my wife, I don't

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know if I could keep my faith. Boy, I would just,

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and I'm having all these emotions and anger and

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retribution. And he finishes the story. And when

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he gets done with the story, very calmly, he

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looks at me and my friend and he says, Can you

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imagine that God would count us worthy to get

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to suffer for him? And I was too embarrassed

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to say the emotions and the thoughts that I had.

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But I want to ask you that. These are the times

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that we're living in. Is our love going to be

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loyal? As we wrap things up, let me help you

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evaluate kind of a little bit where you are and

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to remind you that you can slay the dragon. of

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discouragement. You are not a victim. Victims

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have self -pity. Victims look through the lens

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of me. Victims look at, are things going well?

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Survivors don't. Survivors have an attitude and

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we count it all joy, whether we feel like it

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or not. Survivors don't know what to do, but

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we have God's wisdom and we'll take it one day

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at a time. And survivors get a divine perspective,

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a theology, a way of thinking about life and

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circumstances and the future and our relationship

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with the Lord in terms of motivation. And because

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of that, here's the deal. You can overcome discouragement,

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but you have to fight. So can I ask you, remember

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when we began this teaching time, I said, what

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person, what circumstance? What specific thing

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was really discouraging you? And I ask you to

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get it really clear in your mind. Before I go

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on and give you some practical tools, where are

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you struggling? From what I've shared so far,

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what is God saying to you today? What does it

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look like for you to look at life, your life,

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your sadness, your disappointment, your challenge?

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your heartache through the lens of faith, through

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the lens of hope, through the lens of love. We'll

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hear more from Chip Ingram's message in just

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called The Art of Survival in an Age of Chaos,

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Chip Ingram is teaching from James, Chapter 1.

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Let me give you a couple handles that I think

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will help. Number one, reevaluate your circumstances,

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and here's the test. Is my faith in things that

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are perishable or in things that are permanent?

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Just pause for a moment. Your faith, what are

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you trusting in? Are you trusting in things that

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are perishable or things that are permanent?

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I remember again in China speaking to a pastor

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lamb of many years ago. And he was beaten and

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tortured and the church grew. And so they put

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him in prison and the church grew even more.

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And so he got out of prison after many years

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and he had almost like a tree house, I remember.

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And he had speakers and just hundreds of people

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would gather to hear him preach and proclaim

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God's word. And the officials came at that time

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and said, we are going to kill you. And he smiled

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at them. He said, you torture me, the church

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grows. You put me in prison, the church grows

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bigger. You kill me, the church will explode.

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Do you hear it? His faith isn't in what was perishable.

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His faith is in what's permanent. I was talking

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to one of our partners who does ministry in the

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Middle East, and they were growing in their faith,

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and as they were ready to go back into their

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country, one of the ladies said to the trainer,

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before we go back into our country, would you

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teach us to die well? She understood what they

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were going to do and what they were going to

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share, in all probability, is going to cost them

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their life. They wanted to die well. I sat across

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the table from a young doctor who had a contract

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on her life. She was in Yemen, and the church

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has exploded in the midst of that civil war,

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and she was making her way to another country

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to be safe. And she was young, maybe 30, 31,

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and she just looked at me and goes, I know I

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won't live very long. And she didn't say it with

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any sense of self -pity. It was a sense of, this

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is my calling in life. There is more to life

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than right now. My question is, do you believe

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that? Does your behavior, does my behavior declare

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that? For those of us in sort of the first world,

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I have a very good friend who's gone broke a

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couple times and made a lot of money, I guess

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probably three times now. And over time, he has

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come to actually believe and understand that

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money can't make you, money can't break you.

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He's looking at life through the lens of faith.

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Second is to reevaluate where your focus is.

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The test here is my hope determined by the size

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of my problems or the certainty of God's promises.

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I mean, is your hope or the promises, you know,

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those problems are getting smaller or is it these

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big promises of God? Where is your hope focused?

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The Apostle Paul writing to the Romans and They

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have their share of struggles. The Roman Empire

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is persecuting Christians. And he says to them,

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for everything that was written in the past,

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the Old Testament, it instructs us or teaches

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us that through, listen carefully, endurance

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and the encouragement of the scriptures, we might

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have hope. May the God who gives endurance and

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encouragement give you a spirit of unity among

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yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, so that

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with one heart and one voice you may glorify

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the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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And then he quotes a number of Old Testament

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passages, about four or five, about the inclusion

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of the Gentiles. And then he ends with verse

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13 of chapter 15. May the God of hope fill you

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with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so

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that you may overflow with hope by the power

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of the Holy Spirit. In our dependency, I'm going

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to challenge you. One of the things that God

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wants to do is break down some of our preconceived

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ideas and our focus. For then it was Jew or Gentile.

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For some of us, it's black and white. For others,

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it's different tribes. For some of you in different

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countries, though you love Jesus, there is this

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division. There's this prejudice. God wants to

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take us to this place of dependency that brings

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about unity. He says he gives encouragement and

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he gives what? Endurance how? Through the scriptures.

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Here's the question. Where is your mind going?

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Does your mind focus on the problem, the problem,

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the problem, the problem? Or are you focused

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on the promises, the promises, the promises?

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You know, as I shared before, one of the reasons

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I memorize scripture, one of the reasons I renew

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my mind, one of the reasons I sing and worship

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out loud is I want to fill my mind and my heart

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with the truth and the promises of God so I can

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look at the very challenging. and discouraging

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circumstances in a fresh way, God's way. You

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see, it's perspective. Finally, we reevaluate

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our motivation. And the test is, is your primary

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motivation and the motivation of your heart to

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love Christ or simply experience relief and get

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what you want for you? This is a hard one to

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be honest with. But as I shared, I think the

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brothers and sisters that I've met around the

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world have taught me more about a pure love than

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anybody else in the world. Because there's very

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little hope for any financial gain or fame or

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life getting better. They do what they do. They

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experience what they experience. And you all

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suffer what you suffer because you love the Lord

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Jesus. As I close, when you start to get discouraged,

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are you ready? I just want you to remember three

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words. That's all you need. Three words. As you

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struggle, the art of survival. Word number one

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is faith. God is in control. Word number two

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is hope. You are his child. He has a place, a

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plan, and a promise for you. And the last word

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is love. Suffering is a chance and a privilege

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for you and for me. to express our love for the

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Lord Jesus. Father, these are words of hope and

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life, but we confess in our humanity, in our

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fallenness, that they're very challenging words

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to apply. Lord, thank you for your word that

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gives us encouragement. Lord, thank you for Paul

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and Peter and John. Lord, thank you for people

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in our life. the heroes of today that blaze the

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trail, that love you, that live by faith, that

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focus on what's unseen rather than what's unseen.

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And Lord Jesus, may we be those kind of people.

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Thank you that we are not victims, that we're

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more than conquerors in Christ. Will you fill

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us with perspective and wisdom and hope? And

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will you grant us the ability to fight the good

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fight, to finish the race, to do all that you've

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called us to do. In Jesus' name, amen. God bless

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you. Let's keep pressing ahead. Please don't

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rush away. Chip Ingram, our Bible teacher, has

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prepared personal comments just for our Living

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on the Edge family. That's coming up in just

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a moment. But first, I'll remind you that Living

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on the Edge is the recipient of a generous match,

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one of the largest in our 30 -year history, meaning

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that every dollar that's given right now has

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twice the value and twice the impact. This is

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especially important because of our commitment

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to equipping and encouraging pastors. you see

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when you help the shepherd of a local congregation

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your gift is multiplied through the people he

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impacts the church is growing rapidly in other

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parts of the world god is moving To address the

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needs of this exciting growth, our ministry has

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expanded into 28 countries where churches are

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teeming with new believers who want to learn

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more about the Bible. Churches are desperately

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in need of pastors in order to provide leadership

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for new believers. Well, Living on the Edge comes

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alongside these ambitious men of God, and they

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crave direction and reassurance. In fact, when

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Chip's teaching series, The Art of Survival,

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was recorded on video, it spread like wildfire

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in parts of the world we never dreamed of reaching.

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But God had other plans. Chip? As you listen

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to this series, The Art of Survival, you may

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not be aware of how it was birthed, how God used

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it, and I hope it's been a great encouragement

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to you. But I will tell you, pastors are called

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to equip the saints, but the question is, who

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equips or pastors or loves the pastor? Right

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toward the end of COVID, God had this message

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birthed in response to body bags coming out of

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Egypt, of what was happening in rural communities

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as churches were shut down. And literally one

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day I filmed it. It was dubbed a week later in

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Arabic. And then like a fire that went across

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the world in 35 languages, hundreds of thousands

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of pastors. And they heard what you've been hearing

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the last few days. And then we had them get in

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small group to process it. And at the end, the

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most common thing we heard was God spoke. I'm

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not going to quit the ministry now. And what

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I want you to know is I know you have hard times

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and challenging times, but your pastor lives

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a life that you can't imagine what he's going

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through. And when you give to this match, you're

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helping pastors all across the United States

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and all across the world. Would you be willing

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to radically give up something that's common,

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a few cups of coffee, a few luxuries here or

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there, and make a commitment to this match to

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help us help pastors here and all around the

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world? They're lonely. It's difficult. It's hard.

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And by the grace of God, Living on the Edge is

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giving them hope. And you can be a part of that.

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Yes, you can be part of this movement of God

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by going to Living on the Edge. Having twice

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the impact. To send your donation in the mail,

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address your... Living on the Edge, P .O. Box

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3007, Atlanta, GA 30024 Now you might think your

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donation will make little difference. Well, I

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can assure you every single dollar will be channeled

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into God's work to help pastors and all Christians

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discover how to walk more intentionally with

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Jesus. Again, write to P .O. Box 3007, Atlanta,

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or visit livingontheedge .org. Well, I'm Dave

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Drew. Join us when Chip Ingram begins our next

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series, Discover How to Leave a Legacy That Lasts

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Forever, Tuesday on Living on the Edge.
