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What would you do if you strongly suspected someone

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was under significant demonic influence? Is exorcism

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something just for movies? Does it take a professional?

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What do you do when there's genuine evidence

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of demonic influence in the life of someone you

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love? That's what we'll cover today. Thank you

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for being with us for this edition of Living

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on the Edge with Chip Ingram. Chip serves as

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our Bible teacher for this global teaching and

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discipleship ministry, helping Christians develop

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an authentic faith. Well, in just a minute, we'll

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share the last part of Chip's series, The Invisible

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War. Throughout this study in Ephesians chapter

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6, we've learned a lot about spiritual warfare,

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what it is, how to prepare for it, and how to

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fight well and win. But today, Chip tackles the

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complex question of, what if someone you love

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is being oppressed by a demon? How do you respond?

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Well, for those answers, let's join Chip for

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the remainder of his message, How to Gain Deliverance

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from Demonic Influence. There's a supernatural

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world and there's supernatural mindset. And so

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just what I want you to know is that this is

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very common. The New Testament writers provide

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clear direction. You know, if this wasn't a valid

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ministry, we've got James chapter 4, right? Submit

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therefore to God. Resist the devil. And he'll

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flee from you? Cleanse your hands, you sinners?

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Purify your hearts? You double -minded? You know,

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there's a very clear process of submission to

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God, resistance of the enemy, and very specific

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steps you take with your actions, with your heart.

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And then he says you humble yourself, and then

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God will exalt you in due time. And then contemporary

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balance ministry deliveries do exist. Write down

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the name Mark Bubeck. He's got a book called

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Overcoming the Adversary. Dr. Michael Pocock

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of Dallas Seminary. He's the head of the missions

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department. He's been all around the world firsthand

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with all of this. And then Neil Anderson. There's

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reputable people who are balanced and do deliverance

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ministry. Now, here's why some of us are very

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suspect of this, is here's some of the problems.

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Extremism and fanaticism tend to negatively color

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this ministry. I mean, you don't have to be flipping

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the channels and have some person on TV go, we're

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going to stomp out the devil. Come on, join me

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right now. We're stomping out the devil. Okay,

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everybody. Or the guy that I told you about,

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they brought him up. He was demonized and they're

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kicking him. I mean, there's kooky, kooky, wacky,

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weird stuff when it comes to, and there's people

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that use it for manipulation. But let me just

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give you a little overview of some of the problems.

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And let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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Another one of the problems is the confusion

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concerning demon possession, which is about internal

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control versus oppression of believers. It clouds

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the ministry and its validity. So, you know,

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in other words, believers are taught, if Jesus

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lives in me, I cannot be demon possessed. So

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all this deliverance ministry, It's completely

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unimportant. Michael Pocock, in his writings,

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has a continuum, and he talks about demonic influence

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can be over here, all the way over here, but

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he talks about it begins with oppression, then

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it can move to harassment, then to obsession,

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then to compulsion, and then the appearance of

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possession, just total control. of at least unbelievers.

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Fear and ignorance have caused many people to

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simply ignore. This can't be. This is like, I've

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had people say, one person started reading the

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book and was thinking about doing the series

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and they got like into two chapters and some

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weird stuff happened. I'm not doing that. I'm

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not doing that. It's too spooky. Well, I mean,

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I didn't want to say it because it wasn't appropriate

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at the time. So you just want to be blind and

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live in fear and So if the victory's already

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done and, I mean, there's just people like, you

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know what? I don't want crazy stuff happening

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in my life. Translation, I want my life and my

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comfort on my terms. I don't want to do anything

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that sort of rocks the boat of my life instead

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of being aware and becoming an ambassador and

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a follower and a disciple that can make more

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of a difference. Those who engage in this ministry

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are often tempted by pride. Where they become

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singularly focused, they fall into theological

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error, and they start to go beyond Scripture.

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And then I think one of the other problems is

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assigning blame of all one's problems to demonic

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influence versus assuming personal responsibility

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and using biblical common sense that calls ministries

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into question. You know, sort of the devil made

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me do it. You know? Now, here's the deal. I told

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you a little early about, you know, I had some

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notes that didn't come out quite right. And my

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first thought was, man, the enemy's messing things

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up. My next thought was, and you didn't review

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the notes. You know, and guess what? I'm thinking

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both are true. You know, I'm thinking, you know,

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human error and trying to mess people up and

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get them frustrated, of course. So here's what

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you should be getting. This is a valid ministry

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from Jesus all the way through the early lives

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of the church. You should know there's some very

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clear problems that make many people suspect

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of it for very good reasons. Third, here's some

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causes of demonic influence. In other words,

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if you start with oppression, harassment, obsession,

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compulsion, In other words, these are some of

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the ways that people knowingly or unknowingly

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get involved in demonic influence. One is yielding

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to sin. John 8, 34 says, is that when you commit

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a sin, you become a slave to it. If you ever

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work in, you know, like downtown, you know, city

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team. rehab type places, inner city, homeless

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people, drug addictions, sex addictions. There

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is an amazing connection between demonic influence

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and people that have addictions. Am I saying

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that every addiction is a demonic influence?

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No. What I'm saying is once people surrender

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themselves and find themselves in addictions

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and perversion, the enemy, the strongholds, they

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become slaves because the MO is accomplished.

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What is Satan's goal? To kill, to steal, and

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destroy. When you find people who make decisions,

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and we can kill ourselves with food, we can kill

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ourselves with media, right? It's not just drugs

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and alcoholics and cocaine addicts. See, as long

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as we can keep thinking like that, these are

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issues for those people out there. What if we

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have some strongholds? What if workaholism? I

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couldn't think of anybody that's ever had that

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problem. Or people pleasing or codependency.

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What if there's something inside of you that

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because of your family of origin, you got to

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please people all the time. So you get overextended

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and it's ruining your health and it's ruining

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relationships. And no matter how hard you try,

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could it be that you're believing a lie? And

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could it be when you try to break out of that,

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you get opposition and maybe even harassment.

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And maybe there's a reason why. Whatever program

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you went through didn't work because it was based

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solely on willpower or psychology. So I'm just

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saying that when you yield to sin, second, spiritual

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rebellion. I mean, when, and this is why in parenting,

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I'm, you know, kids make mistakes and they can

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fail and they have good attitudes and bad attitudes,

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but when they actively defiantly rebel as a parent,

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you need to understand, boy, that is not something

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you ever allow. And if you don't start when they're

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small, boy, when they get old, there's not much

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you can do. Rebellion, according to Scripture,

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is like the sin of divination. And when we rebel

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against God, when you know, when God speaks to

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you, can I mess with you just for a minute? Because

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we have an epidemic in the church. Can I give

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you maybe the top two or three sins that really

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good Christian people live with and we gloss

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over and I think hinders our spiritual life dramatically.

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Number one is unforgiveness. We just, I mean,

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I'll never talk to her again. Now, and you know,

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I forgive him, but... I'm being passive aggressive

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in what comes out of my mouth. I talk about them.

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I have anger fantasy in my mind. They don't deserve

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it. Second one is our money. And I'm not talking

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about some legalistic, are you tithing or not?

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That is a beginning point. If God does not have

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my money, I don't care how you feel, how high

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your hands go up, how deep emotions, and how

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much you even read the Bible. According to Jesus,

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if he does not have your money, he does not have

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your heart. If he does not have your heart, he

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is not your Lord. If he is not your Lord, you

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are not having the kind of life he wants for

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you and he's not using you. But the key behind

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why you don't give him your money, are you ready,

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is you don't trust him. And you don't trust him

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because you don't think he's good and you don't

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think he's powerful and you don't think he's

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sovereign. And that's a very big insult to God.

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And the reason he wants you to give the first

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portion and then learn to become a proportional

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giver is... One, he wants to change the world.

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There's all these ministries and all these opportunities

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that are underfunded, and he wants to change

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your heart. And if you can't trust him with the

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minimum of the first 10 % of your income, how

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in the world are you trusting him for your eternal

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life, for changing your children, for breaking

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strongholds? What I just know, it's just epidemic.

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The third area where we seem to just give ourselves

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a pass is in the area of sexual purity. We've

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just come to where in our culture today, believers

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sleep together. We watch things. I mean, if you

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could... If I could put you in a little time

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machine, and because the problem is it happens

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so gradually, so gradually, so gradually. If

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I could put you in a time machine that would

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just go back 30 years, and then I could sit you

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down with the world and the culture and what

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came on the tube, and then just out of the blue

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play just what's normal, prime time programming

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now. You would go, I can't believe this. This

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is terror. This is an outrage. But over time,

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We laugh. Over 90 % of all sexual activity on

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primetime TV is by people that aren't married.

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And you don't understand. It's not just pornography.

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It's lies about relationships that become norms.

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There was a day when an unbiblical divorce was

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seen in the church as not only wrong, but we

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need to address that. That's not true anymore.

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There was a day in the church where homosexuality

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and illicit heterosexual was a sin. And now churches

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are changing. Some Christian institutions and

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universities are changing. And there's just this

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drift. The scripture is really clear. And it's

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not shame on you, bad, bad, bad. This breaks

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your father's heart. Every command in scripture

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is for your good. And all knowing, all wise,

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I mean, some of you like cars or some of you

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are engineers. What do you know? Whoever designed

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the car gives you a manual so it runs great.

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And if it says don't put diesel fuel in a gas

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car or don't put gas in a diesel car, it's not

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like, boy, what a prohibition, you know? I can't

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believe it. Don't you tell me what to put in

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my car. Well, just keep putting diesel in it,

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babe. Well, what happens? And yet, you know,

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we have a nephew or we have someone we care about.

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What happens is your relationships and fear of

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being rejected or being viewed as legalistic.

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We've gone through this last 20 years of any

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level of discipline, of spirituality, of purity.

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Oh, I don't want to be legalistic. It's grace.

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Read Titus 2. It is the grace of God that teaches

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us to say no to all ungodliness and worldliness

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and impurity and to live righteous lives. Grace

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produces purity and winsomeness and love. Here's

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what you got to get. None of you and most Christians

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would never think, well, there can't be any demonic

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influence in my life. Well, if there's a stronghold

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in those areas or others, yes, there is presently

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today. And if somehow you've rationalized in

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your mind that you can love Jesus and be sexually

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impure, you can love Jesus and he doesn't have

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your money, you can love Jesus and not forgive

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people, you are deluded, you are deceived, and

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you're on a path of destruction. And you're reproducing

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it with the Christians around you and with your

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children and your grandchildren. Other ways that

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people... kind of passively get involved in participation

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in the occult? I think I'll check my horoscope.

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We're on vacation, palm readers, oh, that'll

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be funny. Why don't we go get that checked out?

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That stuff's real. Attempting to contact the

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dead? Unresolved anger and bitterness, we've

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addressed that from Ephesians 4, 26, 27. And

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then association with those in satanic activity.

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I will never forget, we had a witch across the

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street from our church, and he actually put an

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actual horse's head on a stake and cast spells.

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And I remember coming to church one Sunday night,

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and there were about 20 or 30 people walking

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in. They were all dressed in black, and they

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had their faces painted in white. And they were

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of this cult group and satanic worshipers. and

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um it was weird and and they came to church and

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so uh our worship pastor has a gift of evangelism

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and he wanted to really share christ with this

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witch so he went over there and you know unwisely

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by himself and he says you know i went in there

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and walked into this room all the drapes and

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everything it was dark and there's some candles

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and it was evil and he goes i started sharing

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christ and then it was just like I got to get

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out of here. And he told me, I'm never going

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to go back there again. But my point is, every

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year Campus Crusade would come and they would

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get jobs and then they would do summer missions.

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And then they were such a blessing because they

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would help in children's ministry and they do

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it in different churches. And we got about 30

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to 40 of them every year. And every year I knew,

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two weeks in, they'd come up afterwards. Hey,

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Pastor, yeah. Do you realize there's people that

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know your name and they pray against you? Yep.

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Yeah, we were down and we were sharing Christ

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on the beach and they were talking about offering

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animals to sacrifice to Satan. And where I lived,

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you can go on bulletin boards. Witches will meet

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seven o 'clock. Warlocks will meet, learn how

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to cast spells. This is America, people. The

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world has changed. And I know some of you, what

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happens is the more godly and more holy and the

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older you get, you know what you do? You get

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less and less connected to what's going on in

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the world. If you, a casual glance at movies,

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at games, that kids that are built into Netflix,

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that are just whole, I mean, there's whole shows

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that are just dark and there are different beings

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coming from different places. You're living in

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a world that now is very supernaturally, and

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it's a dark, and your kids are growing up, and

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your grandkids are growing up in a world where

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this is the norm. So yes, we need to pray. We

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need to model. We need to be wise. Here's some

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New Testament evidences of demonic influence.

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And I'm going to go through these real quickly,

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and I'm going to ask you, as I go through these,

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could you use some biblical common sense? Don't

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think either or or always. Think, yes, this is

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one thing that happens. For example, the first

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one is an evidence of demonic influence, a severe

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sickness. An untreatable, unconventional something.

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I mean, you've been to the Mayo Clinic. You've

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had every doctor. You've done this. You've done

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that. You always start with, is it physical?

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Is it psychological? Is it spiritual? And there

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are certain things at certain times we should

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at least ask, could it be that there's some demonic

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influence? And all I can tell you is all the

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medicine of the work may or may not work. And

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just even in my own little world, I've had opportunities

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where people have had situations and we've prayed

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for them and God supernaturally heals them. Now,

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I don't understand all that. And is all sickness

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in any way related? Absolutely not. It's a fallen

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world. There's bacteria, right? Second is divination.

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People messing around with these things open

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themselves up to demonic influence. Sometimes,

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you know, enacts there the ability to tell the

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future. I mean, it apparently was legit until

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Paul cast the demon out of that girl. The evidence

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of unusual physical strength. You know, the demoniac,

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and no one could hold him down. I had a few scary

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experiences. I'm not all that sad about not ministering

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in Santa Cruz anymore. I remember a guy coming

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down the middle of the aisle, eyes blazing. And

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then, you know, a couple guys got him. It took

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about four guys to get this guy, and he was coming

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straight for me. And it's like, thank you, Lord.

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Is it unusual? Of course it's unusual, but it

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is an evidence, a split personality. We had a

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wild situation. Now, is there psychological issues?

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Are there multiple personalities, et cetera,

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et cetera? We had a situation of a woman literally

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that she was this person, and we finally got

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leaders together. I know her, and this is who

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she is, and this is what she calls herself, and

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this is the kind of person. And over here, it

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would be like the direct opposite. It wasn't

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bipolar. And then finally, and her husband was

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this godly guy, and people would come and say

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this. Oh, no, that couldn't be her. And she could

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turn it off and turn it on. And then we got her

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with these people and these people and her husband,

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and we did some research, and she had dabbled

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early in life, been involved in the occult, and

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she wasn't aware of it even when it was happening.

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We got around her, we prayed, and we got one

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lady back. Got rid of another one. Resistance

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to spiritual help. Sometimes there's demonic

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influence. I don't want your help. Other voices.

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This is only, in my case, very, very few times

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and very, and this is where you're tempted to

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be afraid rather than, okay, all right. Obviously

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there's a presence here and you're talking to

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it, you address it directly and you hear this

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weird guttural out of a teenage girl and you're

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thinking, okay. And there's times where it's

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not two or three little prayers and you're there

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for a couple hours and there's a team praying

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and they're occult powers. We saw very, we had

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visual manifestations in our house, all the kind

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of things you would think and we got to where

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it was like, Okay, there's a real enemy. He does

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so many things. You don't have to be afraid.

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But this is how you can recognize it. The cure,

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and this is so, so, so important. The cure is...

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right back to the core of what Jesus has done.

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Victory is through the cross of Christ. Colossians

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2, 14 and 15. Having canceled out the certificate

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of debt consisting of decrees against us and

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which was hostile to us, he, Jesus, has taken

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it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross

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when he disarmed the demonic realm, the rulers

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and the authorities, and he made a public display

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of them, having triumphed over them. Through

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Him, Christ. You're listening to Living on the

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Edge. Before we continue today's program, let

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me quickly ask you, are you concerned about the

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lies and temptations bombarding your kids each

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and every day? Well, join us after the message

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to hear about a valuable small group resource

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that will help you, as a parent, equip your children

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with the truth and the biblical armor they need

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to stand victorious. Keep listening after this

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message to learn more. But for now, here again

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is Chip to continue our series, The Invisible

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War. Victory is in the name of Jesus. It was

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in the name of Jesus that they cast out these

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demons. It was the power of the name of Jesus

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in Acts 5. It's victory in the power of the Holy

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Spirit. He that is in us is greater than he that

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is in the world. And now in our sort of final

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portion here, I need you to lean back. And what

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I want to do, and I'll go rather quickly, but

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I just want to give you an outline. Beginning,

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if there is a unbeliever who you suspect that

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there's demonic influence, and A, never go about

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doing this alone. B, make sure that there's real

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prayer that precedes things, that you get the

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best and wisest help. Depending on the severity,

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I want to say two things. You may need someone

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that has a pastor or some people that really

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are focused in this area. But I say that, but

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I also want you to know a casual reading of the

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New Testament and at least the first 400 years

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of the church would say, these verses are in

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here for all of us regular people. James 4, 7

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to 10 isn't like, oh. superstar people with spiritual

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warfare, that's for you. No, it's for us. I mean,

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the officer was 4 '11". My son is 10 years old.

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The Bible is the sword of the Spirit. It's the

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power of God. What I'm wanting you to know, though,

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is you don't go into this half -baked. I mean,

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when I read passages like, Michael didn't even

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mock Satan. He respected his authority and power.

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and said, the Lord rebuke you, you just, this

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is not something to mess around with, okay? With

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that said, it's not something to be afraid of,

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and it's weird and like, oh, forget it. And so

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let me walk through, here we go. Specific steps

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for deliverance from demonic influence. Number

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one, for an unbeliever, it's to accept Christ.

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It's to understand you don't have the power.

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In John 1, verse 12. But as many as receive him,

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to them he gives the right. Literally the word

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is authority to become the children of God. As

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many as believe on his name. Second is for believer

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is to confess your sin. There's some demonic

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influence. And by the way, we're talking, it

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doesn't mean everything's weird. There's oppression.

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Or maybe it's harassment. Maybe it's not so overblown.

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And you have prayed. And maybe you even said

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something like, I never saw it like this until

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now because isn't this what the scripture does?

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It opens our eyes. And you say, Lord, I have

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been deceived. My money does not reflect your

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lordship. And I'm telling you I'm sorry. I thank

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you that you forgive me. And this is my step

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of faith that... My next check is going to look

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like this, and this is the first portion because

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I trust you. It's all of it's yours, not 10%,

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12%, 30%. It's all yours, but you've commanded

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me to declare that I trust you. It's no different

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than the manna. They went out and got the manna

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just to know he'll provide. And there's a reason

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why you had to pick up two one day and none another

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day. The thing wasn't about bread or manna, and

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it's not about money. It's about this. Or you

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may say, since we always tend to pick on men,

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you know, Lord, I think I'm addicted to romance

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novels. I think I have some deep resentment toward

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my husband. I think we don't have the romance

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and the marriage that I would want, and I vicariously

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live. And when I have free time, my mind is in

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romance novels and an occasional hallmark I'm

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good with. But, you understand what I'm saying?

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What if... The need to work on the marriage,

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the need to say this really hurts and the need

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to address some things gets substituted for that.

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And what if it seems so benign and it's a stronghold

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and God wants you to have a great marriage and

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he wants what you're reading about in books to

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be a part. And I know you're going to say, but

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my husband, yeah, I guess here's what you got.

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You can't change him, but you can do what God

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wants you to do. And when one person in any relationship

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takes a step of faith, chain reactions. I'm not

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guaranteeing that everyone's going to change,

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but God will do in you and through you and for

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you what he wasn't doing before. And so you confess.

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And by the way, I think, you know, if you're

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going this way to be light and salt and do what

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God wants you to do, I think oppression and harassment,

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I think you're going to expect those things.

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Third is renounce the works of the devil. If

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you found yourself, you know, I was just goofing

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around and it was a palm reading deal, renounce

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it. 2 Corinthians 4 .2. If you have any occult

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objects, you know, you destroy them. It's an

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heirloom. Well, you don't want that kind of heir.

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You know, these are, I don't know where this

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would be, but break friendships with people in

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the occult. We always have this tension and this

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struggle, and you need to do it lovingly, kindly,

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and winsomely. But there's some relationships

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that the value of the relationship, and we quote,

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so don't want to hurt people's feelings, you

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can do it in a way that you're involved in this.

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I know that's very important to you. That isn't

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something I can be involved in, okay? I don't

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want to hear, you know, about your readings and

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what you're doing and this and that. I need to

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make a break with that. Rest in Christ's deliverance.

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Colossians 1, 13. Colossians 2, 14 and 15. Memorize

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a couple of these verses to remind yourself they've

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been disarmed. You don't have to be afraid. They've

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been conquered. Meditate and apply on God's word.

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Have we not talked about that a bit? And then

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engage in corporate prayer. And then if necessary,

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I almost hate to say this word, but exorcism

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in the name of Christ. I've given you an outline

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here. It's by a spiritually qualified counselor.

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Galatians 5 is real careful about when you're

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going to go address something like this, make

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sure you're in good standing, walking with God,

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who manifests humility, who wears their spiritual

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armor, who knows the word of God, and is supported

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by prayers of believers. This is a very specific

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situation, and there are times. where you really

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do need an expert. And sometimes when I explain

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this, I've had many, many calls from people who

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say, would you come and we have this situation,

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or will you come and teach this because this

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is what's going on? And by and large, my answer

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is always no. I mean, I kind of think I told

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you before, I feel like if instead of a pastor,

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I'm a doctor, I'm a general practitioner. I'm

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not an oncologist. I'm not a baby doctor. I'm

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not a surgeon. I'm not a cardiologist. There

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are experts in this. And I will tell you, when

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I read the books of the Neil Andersons or Pococks,

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I mean, they are, I'm like, hey, guys, all of

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us regular people, we need to learn and get our

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game up. And then there's stuff and expertise

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and wisdom that I'm going to handle whatever

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comes my way. But this is not an area of expertise.

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This is an area of, I've had a lot more experience

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than I asked for. So I know these things are

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true. But there are certain things in certain

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times where you need an expert. But here's what

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I would say. I just want to repeat. I think most

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of the time, until it gets into some bizarre,

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bizarre things that you're thinking, this is

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way over my pay grade. But the same is true,

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at least for me, in counseling. I think most

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all of counseling can be done with believers

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with believers helping one another. But there's

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some counseling that there's some issues that

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happen in people's lives. Man, I refer, I want

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a godly, wise, super smart Christian counselor

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who knows way more than me and has way more experience.

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But I also don't want to say every time there's

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some demonic type activity that I outsource it.

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One of the things that happens, it happened,

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and that's why I told you the story about my

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10 -year -old boy. I think I learned more from

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that than he did. I mean, his attitude, I still

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remember. I heard it, and it's like it happens,

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and we always kept the bathroom light on, you

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know, when your kids are small. And so I heard

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what happened, and I'm the dad. I'm going to

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go help him. And I could see, because of the

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bathroom light, he was there, and he undoes his

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covers, does this. Lord, I'm really tired, and

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I want to get back to sleep. Greater is he that

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is in me than he that is in the world. And this

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is the victory that has overcome the world, even

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those who believe in the name of the Lord Jesus

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Christ. And they overcame him, Satan, in the

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blood of the Lamb, and the word of their testimony.

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And they did not love their life, even unto death.

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Now, evil spirits, in Jesus' name and by his

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authority, you have to leave right now. So leave

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and don't come back. And he went like this. Went

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to sleep. And I thought, boy, he really needs

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my help. And the next morning, I just wondered,

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but I think that's the childlike faith. I told

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him those verses are true. He's 10 years old.

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He's not sophisticated to know better. Like some

00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:09.079
of us who think, oh, maybe, oh, I don't know.

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And at breakfast the next day, how'd you sleep?

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Okay, Dad. Yeah, pretty good. I'm fishing. Well,

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did anything happen? Yeah, I had one of those

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satanic nightmares. Yeah, we have a lot of those

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in here, don't we? Yeah. I said, well, you didn't

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come and get me. He said, Dad, I'm so sick and

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tired of this, I thought I'd just do it myself.

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Lord, we are in tremendous, tremendous need,

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but you are the victor, you are the king. Your

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spirit lives in us. And we need each other. God,

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give us the grace not to be embarrassed, but

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to just accept our weakness and our need and

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say, will you help me? And would we be bold to

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ask others to help us? Would you work in and

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then work through these sons and daughters of

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yours? Chip will be right back with his application

00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.180
for this message, How to Gain Deliverance from

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Demonic Influence, from his series, The Invisible

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War, what every believer needs to know about

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Satan, demons, and spiritual warfare. Right now,

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there's a spiritual battle happening all around

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us. We can't see it, but it's an epic struggle

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for our hearts and minds. So what are we as believers

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supposed to do? Well, in this eight -part study,

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Chip walked through Ephesians chapter 6, explaining

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how we're to think about, prepare for, and respond

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to spiritual warfare. Our prayer is that through

00:33:46.819 --> 00:33:48.980
this teaching, you've learned how to fight against

00:33:48.980 --> 00:33:52.119
our enemy and win. Let me encourage you to go

00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.960
back and revisit any part of this series by going

00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.660
to livingontheedge .org or wherever you listen

00:33:58.660 --> 00:34:02.329
to podcasts. Chip's back in studio now. And Chip,

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you know, a lot of people coming into this series

00:34:04.470 --> 00:34:06.950
may have thought spiritual warfare is more prevalent

00:34:06.950 --> 00:34:09.590
on the mission field or in notable churches or

00:34:09.590 --> 00:34:12.170
ministries. But as you've taught in this series,

00:34:12.289 --> 00:34:14.550
our battle against Satan is often much closer

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than we realize. Well, that's absolutely right,

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Dave. And where it's happening, and I think...

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It's going so unnoticed. It's inside people's

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homes. It's that moment when one kid goes one

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direction, another goes another direction, and

00:34:29.619 --> 00:34:32.179
they turn on screens or they open up their phone

00:34:32.179 --> 00:34:36.539
and messages and lies and comparison and all

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the things bombarding. It's a movie here. It's

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someone at school that says this to your kids

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over there. Lies that tell them you're not good

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enough, you don't measure up, life's not worth

00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:51.420
living. We're living in a day where 30 % of female

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middle schoolers have considered suicide. There

00:34:55.019 --> 00:34:59.039
is a real battle. And parents, you need to not

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just say no and set boundaries around things

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that impact your kids. You need to teach them

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the truth. I want to encourage you to get the

00:35:07.340 --> 00:35:10.320
small group study, The Invisible War, what every

00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:12.800
Christian needs to know about Satan, demons,

00:35:13.019 --> 00:35:16.360
and spiritual warfare. It's not scary. It's not

00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.940
weird. It's teaching your children of all ages,

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you're in a battle. Here's the belt of truth.

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Here's how you guard your mind. When weird things

00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.300
happen or you don't understand, here's how you

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have authority in Jesus' name to deal with these

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things. Our kids are bombarded each and every

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day. We as parents need to equip them and teach

00:35:38.429 --> 00:35:41.590
them, have times around the table where we discuss

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what's going on in their lives, and teach them

00:35:44.429 --> 00:35:46.989
how to deal with the spiritual warfare they're

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facing. Let me encourage you, mom or dad, take

00:35:49.730 --> 00:35:52.289
the time, make the commitment, get the small

00:35:52.289 --> 00:35:55.530
group, and do it with your family. To learn more

00:35:55.530 --> 00:35:59.309
about the Invisible War small group, go to livingontheedge

00:35:59.309 --> 00:36:02.929
.org. Join Chip in this vital study and uncover

00:36:02.929 --> 00:36:05.570
the biblical weapons and armor we've been given

00:36:05.570 --> 00:36:08.809
to withstand Satan's attacks and stand victorious

00:36:08.809 --> 00:36:11.570
over him. Place your order for the Invisible

00:36:11.570 --> 00:36:15.449
War small group by visiting livingontheedge .org.

00:36:15.750 --> 00:36:19.150
App listeners tap special offers. For the final

00:36:19.150 --> 00:36:22.349
time in this series, here again is Chip. We have

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come to the end of our study on spiritual warfare,

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and this is the most content -filled series I've

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ever done in my life. If you have not caught

00:36:31.250 --> 00:36:34.309
all of the broadcast, you can go on the web and

00:36:34.309 --> 00:36:36.909
you can get all the notes, every note, every

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point, every verse I have for you. Second, I

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highly encourage you, make this a study for your

00:36:43.769 --> 00:36:45.909
small group. I think you're going to love it.

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I think it's going to be helpful. And I think

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it's going to be that balanced approach where

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we walk right through a passage, Ephesians chapter

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6, and do good exposition. But at the same time,

00:36:56.809 --> 00:36:59.230
practical with regard to how Satan and demons

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actually work. This series is something I think

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can be a great resource for you, your small group,

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and your church. I pray you'll order it, you'll

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practice it, and you'll know the truth, and the

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truth will set you free. Amen. Thanks, Chip.

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Well, from all of us here, I'm Dave Drewy, thanking

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you for listening to this edition of Living on

00:37:18.650 --> 00:37:21.170
the Edge, and I hope you'll join us again next

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time.
