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Condemnation, guilt, doubt. Is it possible that

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the enemy of your soul is using these common

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emotions to keep you from experiencing God's

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love and God's power? You know that feeling I

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have at times like, I'm a terrible person. I'm

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worthless. No one could love me. Those are not

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from God. Question, how do you get rid of them?

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Let's tackle that one together today. Thank you

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for being with us for this edition of Living

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on the Edge with Chip Ingram. Chip serves as

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our Bible teacher for this global teaching and

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discipleship ministry, helping Christians develop

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an authentic faith. While we're in the middle

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of our series, The Invisible War, what every

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believer needs to know about Satan, demons, and

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spiritual warfare. And quickly, if you've missed

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any part of this study, catch up at livingontheedge

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.org or wherever you listen to podcasts. Well,

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with that, here's Chip with part two of his talk,

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How to Prepare Yourself for Spiritual Battle.

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Satan's attacks aren't merely deception, but

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accusation. He's the accuser of the brethren,

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guilt and condemnation of the believer. This

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happens when we willfully turn away from what

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we know is God's will. We open ourselves to satanic

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attack. And we all do this, right? We know what's

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right to do. I remember in... I really think

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it was a great prayer in the tradition that I

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grew up in. We had a lot of rote prayers, and

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one of the prayers went something like, forgive

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us for the things that we have done, and forgive

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us those things which we should have done. I

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don't remember it very well, because there was

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a lot of ought to have done's and ought not to

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have done's, and I can't remember the old English.

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But when I know this is what God wants me to

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do, The belt of truth is nothing more and nothing

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less than being honest with God and honest with

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yourself. The breastplate of righteousness is

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the application of the truth to your life. You

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know what's right. Are you obeying? When we don't,

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it opens you to demonic influence. And again,

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when I use that word, demonic influence, oh,

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that sounds so weird and out there. You remember

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Saul? You know, he was the first king and he

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felt inadequate for the job and was very humble.

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And then he went wayward and he was fearful and

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he really, really cared deeply about what everyone

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thought. And he was given a very clear command

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and he was to wait on the prophet and he didn't

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wait on the prophet. And many of you know the

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story. And if you don't, here's the point. He

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knew exactly what to do and he did the opposite.

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And then he was confronted and then he rationalized.

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And then finally, he's begging the prophet not

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to leave. But if you track Saul's life from that

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moment of major disobedience, God says, I've

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set him aside. He goes and anoints David. And

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then out of that disobedience, he wants information

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and he wants help, and he starts consulting mediums

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and gets involved in demonic affairs. Now, he's

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deceived. And notice what was Saul's goal. He

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wants to protect his turf. He was envious of

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what might happen with David. He didn't, it was

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the me, it was the ego. That's what the enemy

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does. Boy, don't let anyone else get credit.

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Don't let them talk about David's 10 ,000s and

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just my thousands. And the more and more then

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envy set in, and then pretty soon he's being

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deceived, and then comes the condemnation. Remember

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Peter. I mean, what a great picture of, You know,

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30 seconds, God speaks through you. 30 seconds

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later, and the enemy's speaking through you.

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And this isn't some weird guy. This is someone

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who loves God, who's left his family. He's all

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in. He'll do whatever God wants him to do. Who

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do men say that I am? Well, some say John the

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Baptist. Some say one of the prophets. But who

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do you say that I am? Peter. Thou art the Christ,

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the son of the living God. Peter. that's not

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you. The Father has revealed that to you. Give

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me five, bro. I don't think he really said that,

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but I mean, it was like, wow. And then it says,

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and then Jesus from that time began to explain

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how he must suffer by the chief priest and die

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for the sake of the nation. And Peter pulls him

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aside and basically goes, no way. What are you

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thinking? You don't get the program. We signed

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up. We're going to take down Rome. We're going

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to sit on thrones for you. In other words, I'm

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totally committed to you, but I thought the promise

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was a crown, not a cross. And do you remember?

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The Father just spoke through him. And do you

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remember Jesus' words? Get behind me, Satan.

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Now, was he saying Peter was Satan? Of course

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not. What's he saying? This is how men think.

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This is about your agenda. This is about using

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your walk with me and faith in me, not to serve

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me, not to honor the Father. Peter, this is all

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about you. That's Satan. That's his agenda. By

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the way, I think that is what destroys the church

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and destroys Christians more than anything else.

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It's the most sincere of us. who want to do God's

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will, but the subtlety is we want to do God's

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will with an entitlement expectation of what

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it's going to get for us and how people see us

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and what we're going to get. I'm taking up my

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cross to follow you for a crown, for what I'll

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get, for how people will see me. I think some

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of the most deluded, satanically influenced people

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in all the world are religious people. And not

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just in Christianity. The most dangerous people

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in the world is if you actually believe something

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that's such a huge lie. I mean, ponder. I mean,

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this is happening all over the world right now.

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Little boys in Saudi Arabia. Little boys in Iran.

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Little boys in parts of Indonesia. They're being

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taught that, you know, this is what God wants.

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These infidels are ruining the world. There is

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another life and your greatest contribution and

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the great reward is if you kill them. These are

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kids. They're just kids. An 11 -year -old straps

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a bomb on himself and waves to the soldiers.

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And the Humvee comes by and he pushes a button.

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And he's convinced. And the parents may even

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get a little payoff and be esteemed in the community

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because of what your son has done. I mean, this

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isn't just delusions and Christianity and wickedness

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and lies. This is very, very, very serious. That's

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why truth matters. And that's why if there's

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not truth in my heart and your heart, if there's

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not truth in your small group and in your family,

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if there's not truth in your church, and if there's

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not truth in America, wow! You can see where

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we're going and why. And so here's the application,

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therefore, to the one who knows what's right

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to do and doesn't do it. To him, it is sin. Now,

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I want to clarify something because I, at least

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in my experience, I think Christians get confused

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between the difference between conviction and

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condemnation. And we have many different personality

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types in the room. There's my kind of personality

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and many others, and there's personalities like

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my wife. But we are on the opposite ends of the

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continuum, and most of you are in between. I'm

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sort of a big picture. The end can kind of justify

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the means. The rules were primarily made for

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other people. It's the spirit of the law, not

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the letter of the law. And some people, when

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you talk about being honest and scrutiny, they

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literally, I mean, my wife is the other end of

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this world. But it's like she may live more purely

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than most people, and she will just agonize over

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some little thing she said in some way at some

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time. And so what I want you to know is if you

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don't know the difference between condemnation

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and conviction, you'll get very, very confused.

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Conviction is very specific, and the goal is

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to restore you to your Heavenly Father. Condemnation

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is vague, and it makes you feel worthless and

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makes you want to go away from your Heavenly

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Father. And they can both be around the same

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issue. You're a man and something pops up on

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the screen or a very beautiful young woman who

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doesn't have many clothes on and you can't control

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the first look, but the next three looks you

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could have controlled and your mind went somewhere

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else or it could be a woman and you walk into

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someone else's house and you've been thinking

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about it, wanting about it, talking about it.

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Your husband isn't quite on board, but you want

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to remodel that kitchen and they remodel their

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kitchen. Not only that, but they landscape the

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backyard and they got the little fountain and

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your heart is starting to grow. with envy and

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resentment toward your husband all at the same

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time. And that's floating around. And the enemy,

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always working with the heart, can say to a man,

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you're worthless. You call yourself a Christian?

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How could you have thought? It's one thing, but

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look at how you logged on. Look at how you acted.

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You are... You're a terrible person. You think

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God's going to listen to you? You think your

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kids or your wife ought to respect you? What

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a loser. You know what that makes a man feel

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like? The whole life's impossible. I can't do

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this. And you start believing that. And by the

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way, you become what you believe. Period. It's

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really interesting to me when people tell me,

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oh, I believe this or I believe that or I believe

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that. It's a bunch of baloney. You want to know

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what you believe? Just look at your behavior.

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That's what you believe. What you actually believe

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is how you act. Oh, I believe everything that

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I have belongs to God. Really? So do you give

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first and foremost off the top? Are you creating

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a heart of generosity? Are you? I think the most

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important person in the world is God. but I don't

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have time to read his word, don't have time to

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be with other people. In other words, what I

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actually believe. And see, that's where the deception

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is, especially in a world where we intellectualize

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things. Over here, I actually think I believe

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this. But if your life doesn't tell the same

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story as your thoughts, there's a word for that

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that we don't like, hypocrite. The Greek word

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comes from wearing a mask in the Greek theater.

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And that's why Paul says in Romans 12, let love

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be without hypocrisy. In other words, take off

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your mask. Love can only happen when the real

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you shows up. But the real you can't show up

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if you feel condemned, if you feel worthless.

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You'll hide it. You'll pose. And by the way,

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I love the way you guys are looking at me. We're

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really having fun together. The issue is not

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if you do this. It's just how much and when.

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You're human. We all pose. We all project that

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we love more, that we're more holy, we're more

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this, we're more that. But the more we can be

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honest and realize, you know, the most beautiful

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person in the whole world is the real you, not

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who I can project. I mean, I don't want to project

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that, you know, I'm a really good husband, I'm

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a good pastor, and I'm a good grandfather, and,

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you know, I really love God, and I'm trying and

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all those things. But I know there's a presentation.

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even unconscious, that I just want it to be a

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little bit better than it is. And so do you.

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But what I do know is I spend time with God,

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and even as I'm walking, when he brings those

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to my mind and to my heart, if I can learn to

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pause and in real time, oh, you know, that was

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a lot of chip and not too much of you, then it

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restores that connectedness. You understand what

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I'm saying? And so condemnation is you're a bad

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person. Conviction is you logged on, you looked

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at this, you knew it was wrong, you continued

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to do it. That put a division between you and

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me. You sat there and you smiled and you told

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her you loved her kitchen and down deep you hated

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that she had it and you don't. And condemnation

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is what kind of terrible person would not be

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happy for my best friend who has a good kitchen?

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I feel terrible. I drive home. I drive home and

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I feel like I'm a terrible person. I can't believe

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I thought things like that. Well, why? Don't

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humans sin? Aren't you human? You just sin. But

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if it's condemnation, you know what? There's

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only one thing to do. Stop off. I like a triple

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latte, six shots. I'll have two of the chocolate

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cakes. I think I'll feel better. Know what you'll

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do. Then you'll feel guilty for what you ate,

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right? Then you'll look in the mirror and go,

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I just can't believe it. I am such a loser. I've

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gained three pounds, you know? Yeah, the difference

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is, God will say, that was envy. Can you rejoice

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for what I've given her and recognize that I'm

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a good God and I'll take care of you? And the

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moment you agree with God about that, not hide

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it, not deny it, the moment you agree, you know,

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it's wrong. I am pulled like a magnet into these

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naked bodies, and then I feel dirty afterwards,

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and then I'm condemnation. God, you understand.

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You confess it, and you're cleansed from all

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unrighteousness. You're listening to Living on

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the Edge. We'll get back to our series, The Invisible

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War, in just a minute. But first, if this teaching

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us. Well, with that, here again is Chip. And

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overcoming things we'll talk about a little bit

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later. But could I ask you just for a moment,

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is there any personal issues you need to address?

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I mean, the goal here is not that we just like,

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wow, let's learn about this. So let me give you

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a list of areas that I find that we tend to struggle

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with. And just lean back. This is not like, oh,

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I got to get this down. No. You don't need to

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get this down. You need to get this in. Just

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lean back, pencils down. Is there anyone you

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need to forgive? Any unresolved relationship?

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God, show me. And by the way, if it's real vague,

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I mean, you don't have to try and conjure up

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sin. The Holy Spirit's like really active. It's

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Bob, all right? It's Lucy. Or how about, what

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about someone that's not with us anymore? And

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there's still resentment in your heart. And,

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you know, they still exert power over your life.

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I've actually had to write letters to people

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that have died to get out of me, this is what

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happened, and this was wrong, and this was hurt,

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and I forgive you. It wasn't for their benefit,

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it was for mine. Any issues with purity? In your

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thoughts? In your speech? Any issues in your

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finances? Are they where God wants them to be?

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Saving is a good thing, but has it become a security?

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Retirement funds are really important, but have

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you drawn some line that God can't touch this?

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Because I'm just not sure they had all those

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rules. in ages past? Is your generosity and your

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giving where you think God wants it to be? I

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don't know. And by the way, Jesus is not asking

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these questions so you all can look as guilty

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as you look at me. Okay? I mean, hey, hey, let's

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try this. Wow, I need to address that. Okay.

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My money's messed up. I probably should be giving

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way different than I am now. Great. Here's Jesus.

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Wonderful. Now we got that on the table. Would

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you like to, would you want more guilt, more

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condemnation? You want to keep living with this

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because you're afraid and Satan's getting fear

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because if you give, then this will happen and

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this will happen. Or just want to confess it.

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And why don't we get on a new plan together?

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And why don't you experience the joy of what

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I have? And remember, it's not yours, it's mine.

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And together, we're going to do some really great

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stuff. And here's the thing. I promise to always

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take care of you. And it doesn't make you more

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holy if you give more than other people. Why

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don't you give what I want you to give? Well,

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how would I know? He'll speak to you. I think

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we're having way too much fun in this very convicting

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time. Are your priorities where you think they

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need to be? I don't mean legalistic, but... Time

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with God. Are you taking care of your body the

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way that you believe God wants you to take care

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of your body? And, you know, I'm not looking

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for people to be in Muscle Magazine or on the

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front of us or, you know. But it is his temple.

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Are there any habits that... You're just so tired

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of feeling like you're condemned. And whether

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it's media or food or all those different things

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that we do when we're tired, when we're hungry,

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when we're depressed, and we're discouraged.

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Right? We have patterns. And there is no condemnation

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for those that are in Christ. It's, would you

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come? and let me help you. Are you beginning

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to see, I'm sure we were, you know, oh, we're

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going to talk about demons. This is demonic influence.

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Some of you are neutralized in your faith and

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in trusting God, and it's over stuff like food.

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It's over the Spirit has talked to you and talked

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to you and talked to you. And others, it's media,

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you know, and it's not even bad media. But just

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when it's time to get up and do what you need

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to do, you just, we're lazy. I mean, I'm sorry.

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It's not one we use anymore. It's like one of

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the seven deadly sins. So it's like still in

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the game. Laziness isn't like eating chocolates

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and watching TV and, you know, binging on Netflix

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for three days. Laziness is not doing what needs

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to be done when it needs to be done. And we get

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soft, especially as we get older. Self -discipline

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is what? It's a fruit of the Spirit. It's what

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God produces in our life. And so living with

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low -grade guilt and low -grade condemnation,

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it gives you this sense that you don't measure

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up, this sense of depression. And then you and

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I have... patterns that we live with, and we

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do it with food and media, and hopefully, I call

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them the more righteous sins. I don't think there's

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righteous sins, but there's just ones that don't

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have quite as much impact negatively. I mean,

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like going to the refrigerator is a lot better

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than having an affair, only because of the consequences.

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So, okay, I'm putting on my armor, and so you're

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really saying, Like the real army against these

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evil spirits that are trying to destroy and deceive

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are about like being honest with God, being in

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his word and responding to what he already showed

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me. Yes, you're protecting your heart. I love

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one commentator. He puts it this way. He says,

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words are a weak defense against condemnation,

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but a good life is. The third thing is having

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your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel.

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piece. And here's the metaphor, and it's Roman

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soldiers. They wore sandals, but there was a

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bottom and a bit of a top, and they would wrap

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around and tie all the way up to the knee. And

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they would either have little knobs or, in some

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cases, actually have nails out the bottom. Historians

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say that it was invented by Alexander the Great,

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and many of his great accomplishments he felt

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like It was his army's ability because they were

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stable. I mean, if you've ever seen a wide receiver,

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right? He makes his cut. If he slips, what happens?

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You know, he doesn't get the ball. Probably the

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other team does. Or a defensive back, I'm going

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to go and go, and he loses his footing. So having

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sure established footing in your faith is critical.

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The Romans then adapted this. And that preparation

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means establishment, a firm foundation. It conveys

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the idea of readiness to share the gospel. And

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it's an idea of understanding and living out

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of, I am a man or a woman saved by the gospel

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of grace. You understand the gospel. Understand

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this, Satan always attacks grace. Always attacks

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grace. So much of cult, so much of performance

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-driven Christianity, it's all about what you

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do instead of what God has done. And God loves

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me. I can still remember this. I was so legalistic

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in my early years. And the group that I grew

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up with, they did not intend this. They never

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said this. But my personality, my workaholism,

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it was like, you really got rewarded if you spent

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time with God. So I did. If you had man -to -man

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time, so I did it with five people. If you were

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in a Bible study, so I was in a Bible study.

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And I led a Bible study. If you would memorize

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scripture, so they did one or two. Man, I started

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doing chapters. I have hundreds of verses memorized.

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And I got a lot of, you know, bad boys. And what

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I did is I just took my same desperate insecurities

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that I had as a young man growing up, and no

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matter what you did, it never really measured

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up. But work, work, work, work, work, work, work,

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work, work. I was a workaholic by the time I

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was 12. And then the first few months I was a

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Christian, seven nights, I just, there was this

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joy and this freedom. And then pretty soon. I

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took those same old patterns. Just because you're

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out of the kingdom of darkness and the kingdom

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of light, it doesn't mean that everything just

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changes overnight. It means you're a new person,

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and just like a baby is born, it has to learn

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to walk. It has to learn to take steps. It has

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to grow and has a responsibility. And I became

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this person that was completely deceived. I remember

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it was two and a half years into my faith, and

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I was walking. We had to imagine that, like,

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campus and all these beautiful brick buildings

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with ivy and then sidewalks that all in the center.

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We called it the quadrangle. And I remember walking

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in the quadrangle and the sun was coming that

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way. And there was a co -ed that I knew, not

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a girlfriend, just a co -ed. And we were kind

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of friends and sort of had lost sight. And we

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paused and talked for a minute. And God really

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used this co -ed. And we got into a serious discussion

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quickly. She goes, you know, Chip, I remember

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when you first came here as a freshman. And you

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were just a really neat guy. You were just so

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happy and fun to be around. But, boy, you've

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really changed. And I don't care what the subject

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is. It's a verse pops out of your mouth. All

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I know is whenever I'm around you, I feel bad

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about myself. And I don't know if I'd ever want

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to be a Christian, but if being a committed Christian

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is what you are, I can tell you one thing. I'd

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never be one of those. You know what my first

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response was? I turned around. 1 Corinthians

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2 .12, those who do not have the Spirit of God

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do not understand the things that are given by

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the Spirit of God. Completely defensive. Then

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I went back to my dorm room, and the Holy Spirit

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said, that was not her, that was me. You have

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an external righteousness. Your joy is gone.

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You think because you pray every day, have a

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quiet time, memorize verses, and are doing all

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this stuff, you're pleasing to me. You are a

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jerk and a Pharisee. Here's how I measure growth.

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Do you love me and do you love people? And this

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girl whom I love and I want to reach is repelled

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by you. Boy, you talk about tears. And I like

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to say that was a really big moment. I've had

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one of those. I've had a lot of those. I've had

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a lot of those over the years. And I thought

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I was doing such a good thing and the right thing

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and for the right reason. Deception, condemnation,

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it's grace. But what he does, he wants to cast

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doubt. 2 Corinthians 11, verses 3 and 4, he says,

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Paul is praying, he says, I don't want you to

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be deceived like... Eve was. And he then gives

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us the gospel. In fact, I want to take just a

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moment, and you all know this, and you don't

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even need to turn there, but can I read the gospel

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just so we understand it is not going to church,

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trying hard, being a shade more moral, and trying

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to be a nice person. Those are some of the results.

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1 Corinthians 15, now I make it known to you,

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brethren, the gospel, literally the word just

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means good news, which I preach to you, which

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you also received, in which also you stand, by

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which you were also saved, if you hold fast,

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or literally, since you hold fast the word which

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I preach to you, unless you believed in vain.

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For I deliver to you of first importance what

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I also received. Christ died for our sins, literally

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in our place, according to the scriptures. And

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that he was buried and that he was raised on

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the third day according to the scriptures. And

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that he appeared to Cephas, that's Peter, then

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to the 12. And then he appeared to more than

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500 brethren at one time, most of whom remain

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alive until now, but some have fallen asleep.

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And then he appeared to James and then to all

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the apostles. And last of all, as it were to

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one untimely born, he appeared also to me. A

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historical event, 500 eyewitnesses in space -time

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history. God the Son came, lived a perfect life,

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died upon the cross to pay for your sin, my sin,

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and the sins of all people of all time. And it

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is a gift to be received and to turn from our

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sins and receive this gift. The gospel is good

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news. It's not a program to become more moral.

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When Jesus comes into your life, and his grace

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begins to work, your life changes from the inside

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out, and you become more moral in your thinking,

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in your speech, in your attitudes. But it's a

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relationship. Quick question. Do you know and

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understand the content of the gospel? If you

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don't, he will bombard you with doubts. Second,

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do you know the basis for your eternal security

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and assurance of your salvation? eternal security,

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assurance. But he was writing, 1 John, he's writing

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to the church there, and he says, this is the

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record, or this is the testimony, or this is

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the truth, that God has given us eternal life.

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In other words, a gift. And this life is in his

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son. Now listen carefully. He that has the son

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has life. He that does not have the Son of God

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does not have life. I grew up thinking if you

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go to church, if you're a moral person, if your

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good deeds wait out your bad deeds, then God

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would kind of let you in. It's not based on that.

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If you have the Son, it's relational. You have

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life. Verse 13 of 1 John 5. These things I've

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written to you. Are you ready? That you might

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know that you have eternal life and believing.

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Life in his son. I just want to tell you, not

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having doubts about those things. Faith is based

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on facts, not feelings. There's times where your

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feelings, right? If any of you have been married

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for very long or had a close relationship with

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a friend, don't you have days where you don't

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feel so good about them? There's days you don't

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feel so good about God. There's days I don't

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feel so close to God. That doesn't change the

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facts. Facts, this is what happened. I've trusted

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in him. The feelings. They're kind of the caboose.

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Finally, sharing your faith is one of the most

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powerful faith builders available, and often

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the best defense is a good offense. And I'll

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close with just a great story where I learned

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this. I played basketball in college, and then

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I got invited to play on a team throughout South

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America. It was called Venture for Victory or

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Sports Ambassadors. It was sort of a precursor

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of Athletes in Action. We played every Olympic

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team in every South American country save Uruguay.

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And then we would do a little... like a clinic

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in the morning. It might even play at smaller

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schools. And then we would share the gospel at

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halftime. And then for about an hour and a half

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or two hours, people would come down and we would

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talk and share our faith. I would share the gospel

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probably 15, 20 times a day. And I don't know

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about you, but I'd never done that before. And

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I saw all these people come to Christ. It was

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like Paul says, for I'm not ashamed of the gospel,

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for it is the power of God and salvation. to

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the Jew first and also to the Greek. And what

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I realized was the power is not in the messenger,

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the power is in the message. And I just share

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this because when you can understand that...

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This is a done deal because of who Jesus is and

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what he's done. We were in Punta Arenas. It's

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the southernmost city in the world. It was really

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cold. We did warm -ups. You know, they didn't

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have a heated gym. We did warm -ups with our

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sweats on, the condensation on the floor. We

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had been traveling. We did every major city in

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Chile. And I was super, super tired. And we played

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a bunch of games. We had about 40 games that

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we did in about 30 days. And just emotionally,

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it was like, forget it. But we had a really good

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team from a lot of major, you know, we went 7

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'1", 7', 6 '11", 6 '10", from Oregon, point guard

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from New Mexico State. I mean, it was a great

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team. How this little NAA got on the team, I

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don't know, but I was glad I was there. As a

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player, you always want, give me more time, coach,

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give me more time. On this trip, it was like,

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hey, anybody else want to come in? You know,

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like, I am so exhausted. And so I just got mad.

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And I just said, you know what? I'm not sharing

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Christ afterwards. I'm tired. I'm done. I'm discouraged.

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In fact, I'm depressed. You want someone to hear

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about you? You can bring them to me. So, I mean,

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that was not how you pray, but I'm telling you,

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that's how I pray. It was like a child tantrum,

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bad attitude. So, you know, the game's over,

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and people are coming down, and all the players

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are talking with people. I'm sitting right here.

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Some kid walks up. And I memorized my testimony

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in Spanish, and I knew enough to get along. And

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this kid comes up and, eh, well, how do I know

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about Jesus? Beat it, kid. So that had happened.

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And so then a group of people came down, and

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they wanted to talk, and they asked me questions.

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And God, my hard heart sort of softened, and

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I got up. So I started talking to people and

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everything like that, and I gave the gospel clearly

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and inwardly repented of my sin. And then I said,

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has anyone ever had that experience where you've

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trusted in Christ? And this little kid goes,

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I have. I looked over and said, what? Oh, no.

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And then he explained it to me. You couldn't

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share the gospel worse with a worse attitude.

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See, the power is not. Now, I'm not saying that's

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how you should do it. But that day reminded me,

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you know something? The power of God is in the

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word of God and in the gospel itself. The more

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you share it and you see its power, the more

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you'll recognize the grace of God for yourself.

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Before we move any farther in today's program,

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I just have this strong sense that some of you

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listening to my voice We're struck with the thought

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that you doubt, you wonder about your salvation,

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you wonder about your standing. Today is the

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day to resolve it. It's not by works which we

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have done, but according to His mercy He has

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saved us. Right now, today, you can settle the

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issue based on Jesus' work on the cross, His

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payment for your sin. His resurrection, he offers

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you right now a free gift. Right now, wherever

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you are, I'm going to ask you to bow your heart,

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even if you can't shut your eyes and say, Dear

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Jesus, I want to settle this issue. I want to

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be your son. I want to be your daughter. I want

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my sins forgiven. I want protection from the

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enemy of Satan and demons. And right now, in

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Jesus' name, I ask you, please forgive my sins,

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Father. Come into my life. Make me your son or

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your daughter. I believe that your payment at

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the cross was all that I need, and I want to

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be in your family. Forgive me, cleanse me, and

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give me the power now and the armor to live this

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new life. In Jesus' name. We want to help you

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in your new life. We want your feet shod with

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the preparation of the gospel of peace. You can

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know for sure. Your standing is clear. It's not

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about you and what you've done. It's about Christ

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and what he's done. Amen. Thanks, Chip. Well,

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