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It's a fact. Your children will fail. And when

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they do, how do you respond? Today, we'll discover

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why God promises that failure is never final.

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And the way He responds to your failure is the

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way He wants you to respond to theirs. Do you

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know how? Well, that's today. Thanks for listening

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to this edition of Living on the Edge with Chip

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Ingram. We are an international teaching and

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discipleship ministry that motivates Christians

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to live like Christians. We're in the middle

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of our empowering series, Uninvited Guests, recognizing

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and resisting the attacks on your family. Last

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time, Chip walked through the three biblical

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practices our children need to know and explained

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how our kids can use these truths like stones

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in a slingshot to bring down the giants they'll

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encounter in life. Today, he'll give us the final

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two lessons, so let's get started. Grab your

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Bible and notes as we join Chip for the remainder

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of his talk, How to Prepare Your Kids to Win

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Life's Biggest Battles. Let me give you some

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ways to teach your children how to handle money

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so they'll be faithful in a little thing. One,

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teach your children the three purposes for money,

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okay? And again, since I'm going fast, there's

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longer material, small group, but for today,

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here's just thumbnail sketch. When my children

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were small, there's only three purposes for money.

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Actually, only five things you can ever do with

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money. But three purposes is you can give money,

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you can save money, you can spend money. Actually,

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you can invest money and you can pay taxes with

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money. But I think for a three to five -year

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-old, let's just go with the first three. And

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so we took, you know, those mason jars? All my

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kids on their dresser, by the time they were

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even about two years old, they'd have a jar and

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printed real clearly, giving. jar number one

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next jar saving jar number two spending jar number

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three and you know they would you know make their

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little bed and help out with this and do that

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and you know okay you're a part of the family

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we're this is the house is god's everything is

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god's we're a team together thank you and so

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here's 10 dimes and they put a dime in the giving

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well why do we do that one daddy because everything

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belongs to him but we we as humans we forget

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that We start thinking it's ours. So we give

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the very first and the best of your 10 dimes

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to him just to remind us. And then we're going

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to use that to help people. Okay. This dime goes

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into savings. Well, why do we do that? Well,

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because you don't know what the future holds.

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And so God says, always save because life is

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what goes up and down. And you always need to

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have a backstop. And we get eight of these. Yeah.

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Well, what's that for? Well, just God loves you

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so much. You spend that and he loves you. Enjoy

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it. Oh, okay. Well, then they get a little older,

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and it's $1, $1, and $8. Then they get a little

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older, it's $10, and $10, and $80. Now, can you

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imagine what would happen to your kids in terms

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of a mind, a worldview of stewardship, if from

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the time they were small up through about 25

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years old they did that? If you don't suffer

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well, your kids won't. If you don't work unto

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the Lord, they won't. If you don't manage your

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life wisely, they won't. Can you imagine? I mean,

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I don't know your situation, but I know the statistics.

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If just let's say at age 15 to where you're at

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right now, if you didn't do anything with your

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financial planner except those three things and

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10 % of anything you earned you gave to God to

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align your priorities and 10 % you saved with

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all the bubbles and ups and downs and layoffs

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and you lived on 80 % and didn't go into debt

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for anything other than say maybe the mortgage

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on a home, do you realize where you'd be right

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now? Do you realize where you'd be financially?

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You'd be like super well off. It would just take

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a lot of time. But see, the world says you got

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to have it now. And the way to get it now is

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you put it on this credit. You do this, you do

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that. And see, when you do it like that, you

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don't have much. I mean, I was pastors of little

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churches. We didn't have hardly any money. But

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by the time my kids were 13, 14 years old, I

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never had to put a car on time. I'd saved. And

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even I didn't have a lot. You save for six, eight,

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nine years. Then I paid for the car. Then as

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soon as I paid for that car, I started saving.

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In eight, nine years, I paid for the next car.

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You know what happens when you don't have any

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debt and no bills other than your house? You

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actually end up pretty well off financially.

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It's just slow. That's what you want for your

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kids. To manage their finances wisely. The message

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is your life is a sacred stewardship. Not just

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your stuff. Your life is a sacred stewardship.

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By the way, it got very quiet after that last

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point. Are you all doing okay here? You know,

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it was just, if I wish you could have seen you

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guys, I'm like, oh, no, shut up, please, please,

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you know. You told me way too late. It's never

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too late. In fact, the last one we're going to

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talk about is a grace -filled lives. You know

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how God treats people that make really stupid

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decisions, even selfish decisions, even sinful

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mistakes, and totally mess up their life? The

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moment they say, oh, man, why did I do that?

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Will you please help me? You know what God does?

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Come. I long to help you. We can turn things

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around. Yeah, there's some stuff to work out

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of and some consequences, maybe a little restitution,

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but wow, God is loving. He's good. You want your

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kids to learn that. Fourth thing you want them

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to learn is teach them to make wise choices.

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Write this one in. Teach them to make wise choices.

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Now, the way you do that is by helping them learn

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to discern the difference between good and evil.

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I mean, we're living in a day where good is called

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evil, and evil is called good. You want your

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kids to make wise decisions. Now, you understand,

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you make a decision, and my good marine dad would

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say, son, let me tell you something. You make

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a decision, and then they make you. And they

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do. You make a decision, I'm going to go out

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with this guy and get involved in this relationship,

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and it makes me. I make a decision about my money.

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I make a decision about where I'm going to go

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to school. I make a decision about how I'm going

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to respond to someone who hurt me. I make a decision

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about whether I'll forgive someone or not. You

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make a decision, and the decisions make you.

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You know, when kids understand life is difficult,

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but I'm going to walk with God and suffer well.

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When I learned that, you know, working isn't

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bad. I'm actually going to discover what I'm

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made to do and work. And when I begin to manage

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and realize God owns everything and the only

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pressure is just to be a good steward, and then

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you start making wise decisions, do you understand

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how this blesses them? This is like marriages

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that work and relationships that work and decisions

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that are good. But the key behind wise decisions

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is a theology of holiness. Theology of holiness.

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God is holy. He's totally, I just mean he's separate.

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He's totally other. He's different. He's not

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like a large, ideal, perfect picture of the best

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human you've ever known. In heaven at this moment,

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the angels are crying, holy, holy, holy is the

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Lord God almighty. Heaven and earth are full

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of your glory. And they're doing that, covering

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their eyes. He's unapproachable light. He's absolutely

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unmitigated, pure love and pure holiness and

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just and kind. and sovereign, and all -knowing,

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and all -powerful. And just words come out of

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his mouth, and galaxies come into being. He is

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awesome. You want your kids to know he's holy.

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As Tozer says, the great and amazing conflict

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with God is that we're to fear him because of

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his greatness and his holiness, and yet not to

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be afraid because he's the most loving being,

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and he invites us to be his friend. The theology

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of holiness is not only is he holy, but God is

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absolute truth. Jesus said, I'm the way, the

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truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father

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except by me. God's word defines absolute truth.

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He says it's not relative. It's not this is right

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today and wrong tomorrow. It's not what the culture

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says. Jesus prayed on the very last night, Father,

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sanctify them or set them apart by your truth.

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Your word is true. So your kids need to learn

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that. God's laws or morals are for our protection.

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In other words, when God says don't have sex

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before marriage, when God says don't go into

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major debt, when God says here's how you make

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a decision, when he has rules and laws, it's

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not like this angry God trying to get fun. It's

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like these are guardrails. The Old Testament

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calls it the highway of holiness. And he says,

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you know what? I long for you. I love you. I

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created you. My son died for you. I want you

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to get the very best. So here's the guardrails.

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Don't do that because that takes you over a cliff.

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Don't do that. That destroys relationships. Don't

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do that. That'll destroy your body. Don't do

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that. That'll destroy your soul. That's why David

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would say, his law is my delight. If your law

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had not been my delight, I would have perished

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in my affliction. David loved the law of the

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Lord. Why? Because he knew these are boundaries

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for a good God that as I stay in between them,

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I get the highest and the best. And that's what

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God wants for you and for your kids. God's ultimate

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aim is to make us holy. But don't think holy

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as in, you know, some of those pictures in our

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mind like holy is big black robes. There's a

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candle over here. People wear hoods and sing

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funny songs. Holy, holy. Or it's holy is a very

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big black Bible. A praise the Lord sticker and

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a self -righteous attitude. It's not holy. That's

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stupid. Holy is pure, blameless, winsome, kind,

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patient, sexually pure. Pure in your thoughts.

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Motives that aren't manipulative. Holy, write

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this in there, is Christlikeness. He is working

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every circumstance, every relationship, every

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issue, every school, every heartbreak for the

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good of them that love him in order to conform

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your son, your daughter, me, and you to the image

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of Christ. That's God's agenda. The Old Testament

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roots we find Moses. And there's a bush that's

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burning, but it's not consumed. And out of curiosity,

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he gets close. And remember what God says out

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of the bush? Moses, you're on holy ground. Take

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off your shoes. And he bows down. And he gives

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his personal known. I am that I am. He reveals

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himself. You want your kids to understand the

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fear of the Lord without being afraid. New Testament

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-wise, 1 Peter would say to a group that had

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been through all kinds, I mean, the world that

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they lived in was so immoral. I mean, it was

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just so crass, so corrupt in the Roman Empire,

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and they were being persecuted. And he would

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write in 1 Peter, as obedient children, do not

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be conformed any longer to the former lusts that

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were yours in your ignorance, but like the Holy

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One who called you, be holy in all your behavior.

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Why? Be holy for I am holy. Now, here's the application

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I want you to get. This is so encouraging for

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me, is that you want your child to learn to think

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biblically and critically to develop personal

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convictions and character. You want them to make

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great decisions, but you want them to watch TV

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and watch a movie and watch a situation and friends

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that are going through a difficult time. You

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want them to learn to think biblically, to discern

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evil from good, what's right, what's best. And

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what you really want, you want them to build

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convictions. As a parent, the issue is not, well,

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I got them to go to youth group every week and

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I made them do this and I made them do that.

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What you want is you want from the inside out.

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You want them to catch a heart for God because

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they see it in you. And then you want them to

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see it's not like, oh gosh, what a prudish God.

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No sex before marriage and all my friends are

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having it. Well, yeah, honey, but here's what

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you need to understand. This is what happens

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to them. And all my friends are living together.

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Why can't I? Well, this is what happens to them.

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God loves you so much. This is what he wants

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for you. And by the way, we now have the research

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empirically from secular sources that basically

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says God's way. God's way in all those areas

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is what works. Let me give you a couple ways

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to maybe develop this. One is start when they're

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little. Give them a really high view of God.

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Get on your knees when you pray with your little

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kids. Read to them. Read Bible stories early.

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Read the Chronicles of Narnia. Just introduce

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great, rich literature. All the bombardment that

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they get. We have kids living in a video culture.

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More and more kids are ADD now because the brain

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actually gets changed when all they get is video

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images. The third thing you need to do is monitor

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what goes into their mind. Monitor how much time

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on the screens. Monitor the movies. Monitor their

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friends. What goes into their mind and the people

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they hang out with will be the biggest factors

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of how they're going to live and the decisions

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they're going to make. And so they need to see

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your example, God's word, great things in their

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mind. And by the way, when I say monitor, this

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isn't like, oh, I'll never expose them to anything.

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There's times where you need to sit down and

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watch things together. What's wrong with this?

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Don't be afraid of the world. Empower your son

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or daughter to make a difference in the world

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and help them to see through it. Help them to

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see they're just trying to sucker you into this.

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That's not true. Does that work? But do you know

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what all this takes? It takes intentionality.

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It takes focus. Yeah, and it's easy to say, oh,

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I'm gonna put my kid in this and I'll put him

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in school here and someone else will learn here

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and we're really busy and we can't eat together

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and we don't have time to really pray together

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and I really like to and I want to but I hope

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everything will be okay and then they get involved

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in a relationship and oh, I hope it's just a

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phase. You know what all that's called? Denial,

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denial, denial, denial, denial. The hardest job

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you'll ever get, the most important job you'll

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ever have is being a mom or a dad. So you think

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it's gonna be easy? And by the way, if you do

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quote everything right, here's the deal. There's

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still no guarantees. They have these little things

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inside their souls called choosers, right? Right?

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So they get to be 15, 14, 13, 16, 18, 20, 21,

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22, 29. And you can say, we created this, we

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modeled this, we did this, we did this, we did

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this. You know what they say? Great. But guess

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what? You're not held responsible for the outcomes.

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You're held responsible for... Did I model for

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my kids what I wanted them to become? And did

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I do what I know to create this kind of environment?

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And then if you're starting to feel, oh my, I

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didn't do it perfectly. No one has ever. See,

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part of what you model is what do you do when

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you mess up? So they understand they can be forgiven

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like you. God, love covers a multitude of sins.

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And so finally, the... The life message is obedience

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is the only way to get God's best. Obedience

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is the only way to get God's best. You want them

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to make decisions, and as they get older, here's

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the question as they get older and older, what

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do you think God wants you to do? What do you

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think God wants you to do? Don't make it all

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a power play. Force them to process where they

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start making decisions on their own while they're

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with you. Final one, and I think it's the most,

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Encouraging. Because I don't know about you,

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those first four are hard to pull off. Stone

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number five is teach them to live grace -filled

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lives. A theology of grace. Grace is one of those

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words that is kind of slippery, you know? Grace.

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It's a nice girl's name. Hi, Grace. But, you

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know, what's it really mean? Let me give you

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a quick theology of grace. Grace is the unmerited,

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unconditional love of God toward us. Unmerited.

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You can't earn it. Unconditional. God doesn't

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love you or your child if they do this or because

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they did that. Grace is the opposite of performance

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mentality. It's the opposite of earning. Second,

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grace is freely to us but costly to God. The

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scripture clearly says, do you not know that

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your body is the temple of God and the spirit

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of God dwells within you, that you've been bought

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with the price? Christ's blood is the cost. for

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your salvation and your children's. You're listening

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to Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. We'll

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get back to today's message in just a minute.

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But quickly, throughout this series, Chip's emphasized

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the fact that great marriages require a lot of

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work. And that's where we come in. Keep listening

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after this message to learn more about a helpful

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new resource we've created that couples can use

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to grow and strengthen their relationship. Stick

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around to get all of the details. For now, here

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again is Chip to continue our series, Uninvited

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Guests. The cross is God's greatest act of grace.

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When you look at the cross, God says that God

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demonstrated or proved his love toward us and

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that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for

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us or in our place. Salvation is a free gift

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from God. Scripture says it's not by works of

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righteousness what we have done, but according

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to his mercy he saved us by the washing of regeneration

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and renewing of the Holy Spirit. It's free. It's

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grace. But it needs to be received by faith.

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If you've ever watched an NFL game, what's in

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the back of the end zone? John 3, 16. For God

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so loved the world, he gave grace. That whoever

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believes in him would not perish, but have everlasting

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life. God the Son lived a perfect life. He died

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upon a cross to pay for the sins of all people

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of all time. It's like everyone's ticket is paid

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for a relationship with a holy God through what

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Christ has done. And God says, I invite you to

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be my son or my daughter, but I won't force you.

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If you want to stiff arm me, if you want to be

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the captain of your own ship, if you want to

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say, you know, I don't want the creator or God

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or anybody else telling me what to do, God says

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to you, in the words of C .S. Lewis, well, thy

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will be done. God doesn't force. How can there

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be love if he just dictated, you must love me?

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But what he says is, I've provided a way that

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whosoever would come and humble yourself, turn

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from your sin, and with the empty hands of faith

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say, will you forgive me for all that I've done?

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And would you come into my life, make me your

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son, make me your daughter? I want to follow

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you 100 % of the time. He promises to answer

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that prayer and forgive you. Not if. Not because,

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but because of what Christ has done. Every ism,

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every religion can be two letters. Do, do, do.

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You name the religion, you need to do, do, do.

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Different religion, do, do, do. Ism, do, do,

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do. Do, do, do. Pray, do, do, do, do, do, do,

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do, do, do, do. Christianity isn't even a religion.

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It's four letters, done, D -O -N -E. God has

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done for you what I can't, you can't do for yourself.

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Your sins are forgiven. And the moment you turn

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to Christ, you receive him. His spirit comes

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to live inside of you, and it's a relationship.

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And his spirit will then take his word in the

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context of this community, and he will create

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the very love and life of Christ in his presence

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within you. That's what it means to be a follower

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or a Christ one. And it's grace. Grace produces

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gratitude towards God and love toward others.

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It's just not some ooey -gooey feeling. When

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you have that inside of you, I will tell you

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what, you'll start acting the way Jesus acted

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toward people. You'll be thankful. You'll love

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them. The Old Testament roots are Genesis chapter

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3. When the first sin occurred, a free gift,

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blood was shed prefiguring Jesus, skins covered

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our first parents. The word is they atoned for.

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In the New Testament, it's Ephesians 2, 8, and

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9. For by grace, you are saved through faith.

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That is not of yourself. It's not a result of

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your works or performance. It's the gift of God,

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lest any man should boast. It's powerful. It's

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amazing. Help your children realize that failure

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is never final with God. Can I say that again?

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Help your child realize failure is never final

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with God. The world is telling them when they

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fail, they're done. It is final. You're a loser.

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There's no hope. You didn't even make the traveling

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team. You messed up with the recital. You can't

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dance with a flip. You can't get in college.

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Your SAT scores didn't measure up. You got yourself

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pregnant. I don't want to have anything to do

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with you. Son of mine, what are you doing getting

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logging on that internet stuff? Okay, you wanted

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to marry that non -Christian? You go ahead and

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marry him, and now your life's messed up? Two

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and a half years, he leaves you? Well, good luck.

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That's what the world tells him. You screwed

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up, you live with it. God says, you mess up,

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and you find yourself in a 10 -foot hole. There's

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an 11. foot rope coming down if you repent and

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say i need help will you forgive me and there's

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a little loop at the bottom of the rope and you

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put your little foot in the loop and then you

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hang on and he'll pull you up if you have a hundred

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foot hole because you think oh man ten foot that

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you know i got two abortions two marriages haven't

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quite killed someone but i tried man i got a

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hundred foot there's no hope for me oh no no

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no you understand here's grace a hundred and

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one foot rope goes down it has a loop on it you

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stick your foot in and he brings you up Is there

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consequences? Of course. Is there stuff to deal

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with? Yes. Maybe restitution. But he'll heal

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you. He'll change you. And you say, 100 feet?

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That's not even close. You have no idea. I can't

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even believe why I'm even here. I've blasphemed

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God. I've said things about Christians. I'm so

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far away from God. There is absolutely no way.

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I'm in a 1 ,000 -foot hole. A rope is going to

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be lowered that will be 1 ,000 and? Your kids

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need to know that. And you know how they learn

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it? They learn it by getting grace from you.

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They learn that not just with your words saying

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the right things. You know, say, oh, it's okay,

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son. And the body language is, my lands. You

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couldn't hit a ball if the sticking on a stool.

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Oh, yeah, that's okay, honey. I mean, for a loser

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non -academic like you. We send a lot of messages

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that are nonverbal that say to our kids, you

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don't measure up. And then they perform pretty

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well and it's, oh, oh my lands. And then we tell

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all of our friends and here's their scores and

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here's this and here's that and here's that.

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You know what the kid says? Oh, I'm loved when

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I do good, but I'm not loved when I don't measure

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up. That's called non -grace. You want your kids

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to understand their behavior is one thing, their

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value is something else and nothing changes the

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value. Nothing changes the value. You love them

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no matter what. And not just with your words,

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but with your action. How to do that? Be a safe

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place for your kids where they can come for help.

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Let them know that verbalize it early on and

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then model it the best you can. And when you

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don't, own it, make it right. My son was a senior

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in high school. I mean, sometimes, you know,

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you hear me saying these things, and, you know,

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by God's amazing grace, I have four grown kids

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that, despite ups and downs and rebellion here

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and problems there, they all walk with God. And,

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you know, you talk about wealth, greatest wealth

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I have on the earth, not even close. But you

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hear someone talking sort of this, like, oh,

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yeah, you're a pastor. It probably is pretty

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easy. You never really messed up. Senior in high

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school, third son. Something pops up on the internet.

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He has a year -long private secret addiction

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to pornography. I find out about it. Pastor in

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a church. My son's hooked on pornography. He's

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leading worship on Sunday morning in the high

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school group. He's led four of his volleyball

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players to Christ. He has a Bible study in my

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house every Wednesday night. He's hooked on pornography.

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And he denied it for about 12 seconds, and then

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he fell into tears in repentance. God, Dad, I'm

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so sorry. I'm so glad you finally found out.

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I've been a prisoner. And we were preparing.

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He's a pastor now, and he was helping a group

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of young people deal with this issue. And I heard

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him say something that, you know, as a dad, most

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of us, we're probably a little hard on ourselves.

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I'm pretty hard on me. But now and then you hear

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a little window of, you know, I think I did something

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right. You know, yay. And I heard him share with

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a group. He said, you know what? The reason I

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was able to break the pattern when I got confronted

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was since the time I was a little boy, I remember

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my dad saying, no matter what you do, it can't

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change my love for you. And he said, I messed

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up as a little boy lots of times, and there were

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consequences, but I knew my dad loved me. And

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when that big thing happened, I knew it was safe.

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And we went through it together. Do your kids

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know that? Are you a safe place to come to? When

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they really fail. When there is an addiction.

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When they went through rehab and they've relapsed.

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When they've run off and done something that

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just breaks your heart. Now, does it mean there's

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not boundaries and consequences? No. But it means

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that they know you love them. And nothing can

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change that. One of the ways they learn that

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is they need to see you repent. Right? I mean,

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how do people learn to get forgiveness from God?

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They need to see you get forgiveness from God.

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And I remember when actually the same son was

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very, very small. We were visiting my parents.

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And my dad, great, great guy. But I mean, you

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know, a Marine Marine, you know. And so my son

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did something. And it was really trite. And I

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blew up and yelled. What are you doing? You know,

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like that. And, you know, I started to walk away.

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And have you ever had a parent just realize,

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you know, the person who needs help is me, not

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my kid. And the spirit convicted me. I thought,

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oh, that was, man, that's about the worst dad.

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And so I went over and, you know, he's like four

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years old or something. I said, come here, Ryan.

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I said, I just want, I'm sorry, son. And I, that

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was, that was wrong. Okay, I just, I don't have

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any excuse. Will you forgive me? My little son

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puts his, it's your dad. He runs off, right?

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My dad, the Marine. What in the heck are you

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doing? I said, well, what do you mean? You're

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the parent. You don't ask your kids for forgiveness.

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Where'd you learn that stuff? And I said, well,

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Dad, I want my kids to understand that when they

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mess up, When your heart is broken over it and

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you come to your heavenly father, you get forgiven.

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And I figured they'll never know how to do that

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unless they see me do it. And I appreciate him.

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He kind of looks at me and goes, is it pretty

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young Christian then? Hmm. All right. Can I ask

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you something? Can you impart grace? because

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you've received it? I mean, is there something

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in your life that you just, it's like, wow, man,

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it's, hope nobody finds out, but you just need

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to come to God this morning and say, you know,

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I can't be a gracious parent because so much

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of my value is how my kids do this or that. I

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just need forgiveness so that I could give it.

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And I just wouldn't be at all surprised if there's

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not at least a handful or more of people who

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The fact is you kind of came for whatever reason

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and you realize I've never received grace for

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the first time. I'm not a follower of Jesus.

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This is kind of new to me. But if there's a place

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to be forgiven and have new life and eternal

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life, I really want it, but I'm not sure how.

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Then I would tell you that the offer is if you

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will believe, if you will turn from your sin

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and raise the empty hands of faith, the God who

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made all that there is will forgive you and cleanse

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you. His spirit will come inside your life. and

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he'll give you a new beginning. And by the way,

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it won't all be roses. You probably won't get

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a Mercedes or a Cadillac in the mail tomorrow.

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Everything's not going to... But you'll never

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be alone. You will be certainly on your way to

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heaven, and the very power of the living God

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will live inside of you in the person of Jesus,

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and he will make you like him. And I cannot think

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of anything your kids need more than a mom or

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dad that's a lot like Jesus. I want to pause

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before we do anything else on our time together,

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and that is to ask you a very personal question,

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and that is, do you know for sure that you have

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a relationship with Jesus Christ? I just clearly

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explained what it means to receive Him as your

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Savior, to turn from your sin, and accept that

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His work on the cross has paid for your sin,

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invite Him into your life, and begin to follow

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Him. Scripture is very clear. It's by grace that

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we're saved through faith. It's not of ourselves.

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It's not a result of our works, but it is a gift

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of God. And I want you to know that the greatest

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gift you'll ever give to yourself and even more

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to your children is a mom or dad that not only

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receives Christ as Savior, but follows Him with

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all your heart. You know, life is really hard.

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It's hard for you. It's hard for me. It's hard

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for all of us. But when there is the supernatural

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power of the living God inside of you, he can

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give you patience. He can give you endurance.

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He can help you weather through a difficult time

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in your marriage. He can help you be the mom

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or dad that you long to become. And so let me

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invite you right now just to pray a very simple

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prayer. Lord Jesus, I admit that I need you.

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I admit that I have sinned and I fall short of

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being perfect. And today, I ask you to forgive

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me for all my sins. I ask you to come into my

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life and save me and live inside of me and be

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my Savior and be my Lord. Thank you very much

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that you promised if I would ask, you would respond.

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Thank you for forgiving me. Thank you for coming

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into my life. Now help me to walk with you. In

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Jesus' name. Amen. And let me just tell you right

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now that the greatest thing you can do is call

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or text or tell the greatest Christian you know.

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I'm not sure about all of this, but I just prayed

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and asked Christ to come into my life, and I

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know he need help. And the second thing is to

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find an easy -to -read Bible that you can start

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on the book of John and just say, God, I want

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to get to know you. And then this weekend, find

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a Bible -teaching church and just walk through

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the doors, and it'll be a little scary for some

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of you, but God's got a brand -new home for you

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somewhere. Find a great church and get plugged

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in. Thanks, Chip. Well, if you prayed to receive

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Well, Chip's still with me in studio. And Chip,

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back in your basketball playing days, you dedicated

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a lot of blood, sweat, and tears to earn a college

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scholarship. You couldn't just say you wanted

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to be better. You had to work at it. And that

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same principle applies to our marriages and how

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we parent too, right? Dave, you're spot on with

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that analogy. And even in my own marriage, there's

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been times where we weren't working very hard

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on our relationship. Work is busy, and then pretty

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soon the kids have all these activities. And

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you talk about better communication and resolving

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conflict and putting each other first, and all

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that begins to fade away. What I realized was

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I needed a tool. I mean, when I wanted to be

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a better basketball player, I had dribbling drills.

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I had passing drills. I had very specific things

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that I did each and every day for hours with

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that clear -cut goal in mind. And what we've

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developed at Living on the Edge is a practical

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if you will, and share with people how they can

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this edition of Living on the Edge with Chip

00:35:36.730 --> 00:35:39.110
Ingram. I'm Dave Drewy, and I hope you'll join

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