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For the first two years of our marriage, Teresa

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and I argued and fought a lot. And then I learned

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five principles from Scripture that revolutionized

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how we dealt with those issues. If you want to

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learn how to improve the communication with your

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mate, stick around. Welcome to this edition of

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Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. We are an

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international teaching and discipleship ministry

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devoted to helping Christians worldwide live

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out their faith for the glory of God and the

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good of all. We're in the middle of our ongoing

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series, Uninvited Guests. Last time, he explained

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that great marriages practice three essential

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skills and highlighted the first one, which is

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forgiving your mate. Today, he's focusing on

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an area every couple can grow in, communication.

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We'll stick around to learn how to engage with

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your spouse in a sincere, heartfelt way while

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also listening to their wants, needs, and desires.

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So if you're ready, go to Ephesians chapter 4

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in your Bible and settle in for his talk, How

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to Share Hearts Instead of Exchange Words. Communication

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is the highway upon which love travels. Okay?

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Communication... is the highway upon which love

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travels. You can love one another. You can love

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God. You can be committed to one another. And

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if you can't get out inside of you what you really

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think and what you really feel, and if your mate

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can't do it in a way that doesn't attack and

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wound one another, I will tell you in years and

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years of marriage counseling, there are people

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that love one another, love God, and no longer

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are together. because they could not communicate

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and get to the heart of the issues. I told you

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earlier about that first couple years of my life

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and that professor sent us to marriage counseling

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and I bet 90 % of it was learning to communicate.

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We didn't know how to resolve anger and we didn't

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know how to communicate. Well, you know what?

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There's a lot of issues that if you can't get

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the love traveling on the highway of communication,

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you're dead. And the frustration boils over,

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especially if you really love God and you wanna

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get through and you want to express this to your

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mate, but you just keep getting knocked down.

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Pretty soon, the blame starts. The greatest,

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most vivid example, it's in your notes. It starts

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with, it all started with the car. It was early

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pastorate that I had in Texas many, many years

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ago, and I love to play basketball. If you've

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ever heard me speak, you know I'm a basketball

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junkie and had the privilege of playing in college

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and then around the world for a couple, three

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summers. And these neighbors had a hoop. And

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so I knew these are going to be my friends. I

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mean, you know, because I'm going to go play.

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And we started playing and he had three boys

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and I had boys. And one thing led to another.

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And I found out that he was there. He'd been

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through a couple of very difficult relationships

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and he had four teenagers. And he was living

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with a gal who'd been through some really painful

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relationships and a couple, three marriages.

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And she had a tiny little girl and they were

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all living together. And so we went down and

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played basketball, six, seven, eight, nine months.

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And little by little got a chance to share Christ

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with them. And then he came down one day and

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I can still remember, you know, I was weeding

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next to my mailbox and Dan comes by. Why didn't

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you tell me? I said, what do you mean? Why didn't

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you tell me? I said, why didn't I tell you what?

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That you're one of those preacher types. You're

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a pastor. I said, well, yeah, I am. He said,

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well, we've been kind of watching you and Teresa

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and we've been listening and we want to get married.

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Will you marry us? And I'm thinking, oh boy.

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I said, well, I tell you what, one of the things

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I have is I always do six weeks minimum of counseling.

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And you really need to know what marriage is

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and it's kind of hard. And so I want to talk

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about. how that works. And I would love to meet

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with you and your wife and Teresa will do it

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too. Well, we did it by about the third session.

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They both came to Christ, amazing stories, great

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redemption, and went through the whole process.

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And then now we're into this new marriage, six

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or nine months. They're both brand new in Christ.

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They both love God. They're both in God's word.

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They're both going, I will say it was a good

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church. I got to be the pastor. It was a great

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group of people. And so I came by and he was

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in this traveling job where, you know, like Monday

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through Thursday or even all the way to Friday,

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he'd be traveling all over America in sales and

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then come home. Well, she's with four teenagers

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that aren't hers, okay? And they're making her

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nuts. And so he comes home and he's thinking,

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oh, I haven't seen my wife. Let's go out to dinner.

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I'm gonna really love her. We're gonna have a

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date, all this stuff. And she's thinking, we

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gotta resolve conflict with Bob at school and

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your other son and your daughter. She's dating

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this guy and she's juggling all this stuff. And

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so anyway, they come home and she's listening

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and she's meeting with Teresa and he's meeting

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with me. So this is, listen, listen. They love

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each other, remember? They're committed to the

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Lord, remember? They're actually growing spiritually,

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remember? And so he comes home for the weekend,

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and she says, I want to be other -centered and

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grace -giving. So they go out to a beautiful

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dinner. They have a romantic evening. They take

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walks the next day. But she keeps waiting for,

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when are we going to have the big talk? I mean,

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when are you going to sit down and talk about,

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you know, am I going to discipline these kids

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and they're too big for me? And what about these

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issues? And we've got all kinds of things we

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need to do. Well, he wants to be other centered

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and it's getting cold in Texas. So it's Sunday

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afternoon and he's going to get on a plane about

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five or six hours. So he is out underneath the

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car, changing the oil of her car to make sure

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the antifreeze. So he's loving her. All right.

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You got the story. I walk down, I know we're

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not gonna get to play basketball and one of my

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kids runs out of the house and says, dad, you

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better watch out. It's going like crazy down

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there. I said, well, what do you mean? So I walk

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up and by the time I get there, I mean, it is

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a no holes barred. He's gonna half under the

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car sitting up like that. There is veins, eyes

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bulbing, plates have already been flowing. There

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is cursing. There is you are this, everything

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they've ever thought. I mean like. All, everything

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they brought into their marriage that was ugly,

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bad, they just spewed it on one another. And

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I mean, my kid ran out and said, what happened?

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Well, that plate almost hit me when it went by

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and crashed against the wall, you know? And I

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said, well, get home, you know? And so I watched

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all this happen. And she's there thinking what?

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Man, I'm loving these four adults. you know,

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teenage adults. And I've got all this stuff on

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my hands and you've been here two and a half

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days. We've had a decent talk and you're going

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to get on a plane. I'm stuck with all this. I

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don't know what we're going to do. And he's thinking,

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you know what? I have come home and I have wined

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and dined instead of getting a workout and doing

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some stuff I wanted to do. And I took these romantic

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walks and talks like Chip says we're supposed

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to do and all this jazz. And here I am out here

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trying to get your car ready for you. So you're

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safe and you treat. And I will, I remember doing

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a debrief about a week later and hours with him,

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Teresa hours with her, bringing them both together.

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Here's what I can tell you. He did what he did

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all weekend for one reason. He loved her. She

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did what she did all weekend because she loved

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him. They both put the other person first in

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a way that they understood to obey God. And they

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had one of the biggest fights that put a barrier

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in their marriage that they never recovered from.

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See, we learned you need to love God and know

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His plan. They knew it. We said they're barriers.

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They identified they're barriers and they loved

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one another and they were operating to solve

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it. But what they couldn't do is they had not

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learned how on the highway of communication.

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to get the love that was in heart for his wife

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and her love for him on the highway of communication

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in a way that it could get received. And under

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pressure, they went back to the old ways. And

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you know, to this day, I know two people are

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no longer together who love one another, who

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both love God, because they didn't learn what

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we're going to learn right now. Let's talk about

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the communication process. We're going to learn

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what it is and how it works. Understanding the

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communication process, the definition is the

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meeting of meanings. Write the word meanings.

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Communication is not talking. It's when the meaning,

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what's in your heart, what do you really mean,

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somehow goes across this highway into the heart

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and to the mind of your mate. Norman Wright says,

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communication is the privilege of exchanging

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vulnerabilities. By the way, the word vulnerable,

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it means open to woundedness. See, great communication

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is always risky and often painful before it gets

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good. Norman Wright also says, communication

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is the process of sharing yourself verbally and

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non -verbally in such a way that the other person,

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listen, can both accept and understand what you're

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saying. So if you say it in a way where they

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can't accept it or they can't understand it,

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you don't communicate. You can say, I said the

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right words. I wrote it down. This is the way

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it is. If they can't hear it, you didn't communicate.

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And a lot of times we do things unintentionally,

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completely unintentionally, that shut down the

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communication process. Many of us think, especially

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us as men, we think communication, look, that's

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what I said. I said I love you, okay? Look, I

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love you. You don't get it? What's the deal?

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I love you. Hey, I said it once, I said it twice.

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I love you, okay? Get over it. Now, what did

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my words say? Someone could have put that in

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a transcript and said, oh my, Chip's such a wonderful

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husband. He just said six times in a row, I love

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you. Except that wasn't my tone of voice, was

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it? Notice on your notes, the complete message,

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words alone are about 7%. Tone of voice, 38%.

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Facial expression, gestures, posture, the nonverbal,

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55%. And by the way, that's sometimes, as men,

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we get really frustrated because we're really

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trying, but they can read behind. And some of

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you guys can do it too. It's kind of like, yeah,

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we need that deep talk. Yeah, go ahead, hon,

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whatever. I mean, tell me, I really want to hear.

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Communication, that's kids. Yeah, let's go. No,

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I'm listening, I'm listening. You see, your body,

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your presence, your face, your tone of voice,

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your eyes, all of that is how we communicate

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with one another. And if we think I said the

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right thing or I even meant the right thing,

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and if you think you got through, you may not

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have all. And I noticed it's a skill. It's the

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highway on which love travels. It is a skill.

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It can be learned. But most of us did not grow

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up with models where people communicated clearly

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and well. And most of us don't know how. I mean,

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I spent about $90. That was a student rate. I

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spent $90. I'm making $1 ,000 a month in seminary.

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And I've got three kids. I'm working full -time,

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going to school full -time. And I've got this

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little tiny apartment that you can live all that

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on 1 ,000. I paid $90 for 12 weeks in a row to

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learn how to communicate. So actually, I should

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be charging most of you for me telling you what

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these counselors taught me, all right? And then

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I have some passages that'll be helpful too.

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But it's a skill. There's five levels of communication

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according to author John Powell, who wrote the

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book, Why I'm Afraid to Tell You Who I Am. He

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says there's the cliche, level one, safe, shallow,

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you know. How are you? I'm fine. There's level

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two, reporting facts, refers to basically third

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person. Have you heard about the weather today?

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No, I think it's going to rain. There's level

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three, ideas or judgment. Risk begins here because

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there's attachment of yourself with the facts.

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So what did you think of that message last week

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in church? What do you think about the current

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political situation? What do you think about

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what we need to do with our money? Do you see?

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Now, what you say may cause a little conflict,

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so it's getting a little bit more dangerous.

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Level four is feelings and emotions, laying self

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on the line. I feel hurt. I'm struggling. I'm

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depressed. I was really offended last night when

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we were with that couple and you brought that

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subject up that, you know, you never talked with

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me about that. I felt really damaged. Level five

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is open communication, total honesty, mutual

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understanding, vulnerability, no holes barred.

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Now on the left side of your notes, at the very

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top where it says level one, I want you to write

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the word safe and put a box around it. And then

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at the very bottom where it says level five,

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I want you to write the word dangerous. Because

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here's what you need to understand. Shallow communication

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is very safe, but it doesn't lead to intimacy.

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Intimacy occurs at levels four and five. It moves

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from safe to dangerous, but deeply fulfilling

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along with deeply painful conversations happen

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at levels four and especially at level five.

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And if you don't understand, then you'll start

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opening up and you'll start sharing. And then

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some hard things are going to come out and you're

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going to get wounded and you're going to get

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hurt. And instead of realizing, oh, this is normal.

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This is like we're at level 4 .5. And I guess

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I need to be real sensitive to what the Spirit's

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saying so that before it comes out of my mouth,

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I really process it. And instead of striking

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back, maybe I really need to listen carefully.

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There may be a nugget of truth into this. See,

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if you don't know it's dangerous, then you'll

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react. right? And pretty soon you'll close down.

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And we want to talk about, so how in the world

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do you move from level one down progressively

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in different areas to level five? Intimacy always

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occurs at levels four and five. But some of you

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might be having this thought, well, wait a minute.

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You know, I've tried that before and you're right.

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There is a lot of pain. I was really open before.

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And we've done some of that. And you know what?

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If you're going to ask me to go there again,

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I'm not going to do it because it hurt too badly.

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I want to suggest is that you need some rules.

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You need some principles from God to build that

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highway of communication so you can go there

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without getting hurt. All right? This is Living

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on the Edge with Chip Ingram. And Chip will be

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back to finish today's message in just a minute.

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But let me first gently ask you, is your marriage

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in trouble right now? Do you and your mate need

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a practical biblical tool to revive and transform

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your relationship? Well, we've developed a brand

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new resource designed to do just that. So stick

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around after the teaching to hear about this

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practical way we are encouraging couples. Until

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then, here again is Chip to continue our series,

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Uninvited Guests. So with that, let me give you

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five principles I believe that will transform

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communication in your home. If you open your

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Bibles to Ephesians chapter four, the context

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is really exciting because the first three chapters

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are about all these wonderful, great things that

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God has done. You're a new person in Christ.

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And then chapter four opens up, now walk. in

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a manner worthy of your calling. In other words,

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how do you live out this new supernatural life?

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The Spirit of God has taken up residence in you.

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You've been taken out of the kingdom of darkness.

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You've been pulled into the kingdom of light.

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Your sins are gone. You have peace. The Spirit

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lives in you. You're a part of a new family called

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the church. You are going to be transformed.

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He says, how does it work? And in the first 17

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verses, he begins to explain about who you are

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in Christ and how your mind needs to be transformed.

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And the supernatural thing called the church

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is called a community where he gives apostles

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and prophets and evangelists and teachers so

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that he equipped the saints to do the work in

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the ministry until everyone is mature. And the

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idea is where we, all the fullness, we become

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more and more like Jesus. And then after he lays

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all that out, he picks it up and he says, okay,

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now let me. target about five specific areas

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about how this practically works out in your

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relationships. How do you live out this new supernatural

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life, the spirit of God in you? You're born again.

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You're a Christian. How does it work in relationships?

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And he gives five very simple principles. Principle

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number one, you pick it up in verse 15, but he

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develops it in verse 25. And it's simply put,

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be honest. Write those two words down. Speak

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the truth in love. I mean, this is the key to

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communication. It is easy to speak the truth.

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It is easy to speak in love. It is very hard

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to speak the truth in love. I mean, you know,

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it's easy to speak the truth. You gained a lot

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of weight lately. What's the problem? Oh, nothing

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really. I think it's the lazy guy I'm married

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to. The truth is just right out there on the

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table. No problem here, right? But I'm not sure

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that's going to bring about good communication.

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Or you don't. ever mention areas that are of

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pain or a problem. Oh, you're wonderful. I'm

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wonderful. You're wonderful. I'm wonderful. No,

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you're more wonderful. No, no, no, no, no. You're

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wonderful, but I'm more wonderful. And you just

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take all that junk, you don't face it, and you

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push it down. Speaking the truth isn't hard.

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Speaking in love isn't hard. Speaking the truth

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in love requires tremendous spirit -directed

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capacity. Notice what he says in verse 15, but

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speaking the truth in love, notice what happens.

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We are to grow up into all aspects into him who

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is the head, even Christ. Finish then with lying

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and tell your neighbor the truth. Well, your

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mate is a neighbor. We are not separate units,

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but intimately related to one another in Christ.

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It means that we stop pretending. It means we

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don't lie. And it means that in a very calculated,

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wise, God -ordained way, we begin to move into

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levels four and five, and we start talking honestly

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about areas that are of conflict, areas that

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are hard, areas where you're dissatisfied, areas

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where you feel wounded. But you speak the truth

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in a way where the other person can hear it because

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it's couched in, I'm not down on you. This is

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not payback. And I'm gonna give you some specific

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skills toward the end about how to do this, okay?

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But what you gotta do, we've gotta be honest.

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You don't grow unless we're honest with one another.

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One of the little applications I would give you

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right in your notes, make direct requests. One

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of the things we do is we think our mates can

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read our minds. And so, you know, the car is

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a quarter low on empty. And your husband drives

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your car and it comes back all the way on empty.

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And you're frustrated and everything. And so

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what we go to is, you know, I can't believe he's

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so inconsiderate. Why does he leave my car that

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way? Well, you know, I'll get news for you. If

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he's anything like me, I don't know where my

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car is. Heaven knows I know what yours is. You

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know, often my wife grew up with a dad who was

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like Mr. Fix -It, you know, like Mr. Rogers on

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steroids, except, you know, Mr. Green Jeans was

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there. And he painted his house every three years,

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whether it needed or not. I didn't even notice

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when our house needed painted, okay? And so she's

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thinking I'm gonna be like him. And so she's

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assuming, well, you know, why have you serviced

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the cars? They're not running? You know, or,

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you know, when are we going to repair this thing?

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It doesn't look broken to me. That's way too,

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I wasn't good or bad. I just, you know what my

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dad was good at? Catching baseballs, hitting

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baseballs, playing basketball. He was a golden

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glove boxer. You know what I learned? I learned

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how to do sports. I didn't, you know, when something

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broke, my dad's call the repairman. He couldn't

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do anything and he reproduced after himself.

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And you know what she learned? Here's a skill,

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make direct requests. You know what she started

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doing? Simple things like, Chip, are you going

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to use my car right now? Yeah, because I need

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it. It's got more room. Would you mind filling

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it with gas? No. In fact, I did it. It felt like

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a hero. Ooh, boy, look at this, you know? In

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fact, I started changing the oil. I mean, she

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thought I was metamorphosized right in front

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of her. Speak the truth in love. Those kind of

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issues like that sometimes go unspoken for 10,

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15, 20 years in marriages. Second, you didn't

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know this much was in the Bible, did you? Be

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angry. Deal with anger appropriately. Notice

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what it says. If you're angry, be sure that it's

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not out of wounded pride or a bad temper. Never

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go to bed angry. Don't give the devil that sort

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of foothold. That's a Phillips translation of

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Ephesians 4, 26 and 27. The literal translation

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is be angry. It's a command. It's an imperative.

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Yet, do not sin. Don't let the sun go down on

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your anger. Anger is the most destructive emotion

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in any marriage relationship. Anger is the distance

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between your expectations and your experience

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is anger. The difference between what you thought

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was gonna happen and what you're currently experiencing

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creates anger. Now, sometimes it's justified

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and sometimes it's not. It just, you know, they

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just tick you off a little bit and it's because

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you're selfish. But he says, be angry. If you

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don't deal with that anger and if you push it

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down, you know, some researchers say as much

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as 90 % of all depression is rooted in unresolved

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anger. Well, I can tell you it will cause your

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stomach to do this. But here's what's worse.

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What's this verse say? You know, we don't think

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about, you know, the spirit world and, you know,

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Jesus came to what? To give life. The enemy came

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to destroy and to steal and to kill. What's this

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verse say? Be angry, yet don't sin. Don't let

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the enemy get a foothold. You know, when you

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go to bed mad, When you have unresolved anger,

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when you push it down, you're inviting demonic

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spirits to begin to divide. And then you start

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playing in your mind and blame shifting. Man,

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I'll tell you what, it is a serious thing to

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be able to say, I feel angry. I don't know how

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we need to resolve it, but I feel angry about.

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One of the little tools, and I feel bad giving

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this away because I paid my $90 for 12 weeks,

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but I'm giving it to you free, so I want you

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to write this down. A skill here is what we call

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I feel messages. Our Christian counselor, on

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a three by five card, it was on our refrigerator

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for two years. I feel blank when you blank. Okay,

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you want me to go over that again slower? Okay,

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I feel blank, hurt. angry, frustrated, lonely,

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when you blank, don't come home on time, don't

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call, are not affectionate or responsive. I feel

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blank when you blank. See, what we tend to do

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is we use ought and should and never and always.

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You should never do that. You always do that.

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How do parents talk to children? Ought, should,

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never, always. When you hear that from your mate,

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those are fighting words. You tell a man, you

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never, you ought, you should. His manhood is

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challenged. You want, hey, you think that's it?

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And when you say that to a woman, it's like some,

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you're not my father talking down to me and making

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me feel small. Well, if you think she's withdrawing

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now, you keep talking like that. My wife and

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I bumped heads and we didn't know how to resolve

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anger. And that card was on here. And I had one

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thing that drove her crazy. She would make dinner

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and she is what we call a dot. communicator.

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I'm a dash communicator. Dot communicators mean

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when they say something, there's a period at

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the end of it. We're going to eat at 5 .30. Dot.

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It's concrete. I mean, not 5 .31, 5 .30. And

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when you come in at 20 till 6, I'm a dash. 5

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.30, you say, hey, let's meet at 5 .30. To me,

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that's 20 after 5, 20 to 6, depending on traffic,

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depending on whatever else is happening. I'm

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sure you understand. I understand. I'll give

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you grace. You give me grace. Okay, I'm a dash,

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I'm married to a dot. Yet another difference.

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So it's 5 .30, and I come in not at 22, and I

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don't call, and it's now six o 'clock, and I'm

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thinking, you don't understand. I'm working full

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-time. I'm going to school full -time. Like two

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afternoons, I can play pickup basketball. When

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you play pickup basketball, when you win, you

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stay on. Okay? Okay? I've won three games. I'm

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not going to leave when I'm still on. I mean,

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this is my one little fun. You know, I mean,

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I'm the skinny little white kid playing. I'm

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on. I'm gonna, I can't go home. And so I come

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home like 30, 40 minutes late and I've had a

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great time playing basketball. And then here

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we go again. You ought, you should, you never.

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Here's the cold supper. And then we fought about

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it. And then so we communicated as we did. She

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would shut down for two or three days and I would,

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you know, try and make it up to her. And then

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I kept doing the same thing. And I'll never forget,

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I came home typically late, and instead of she

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acting like my mother, and by the way, when your

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wife acts like your mother, just take her to

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the bank, honey. We were going, bam, you know,

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right? And so she didn't have her hands on her

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hips, and there was candles, and she goes, your

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food's in the oven. I'll get it for you if you

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want to sit down. Uh -oh. Do -do -do -do -do

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-do -do -do, you know, you know. I don't know

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what this counselor's teaching her, but it's

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getting scary. And so she brings it, and she

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sets it down. And she said, I want you to know

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the kids and I had a good meal. I said, oh. You

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know, I'm thinking, oh, gosh, I'm not sure how

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to handle this. And so I sat down, and I started

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to eat. And she just waited, calm, under control,

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clothed, in her right mind. And I had all my

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defenses up. And I'll never forget, she looked

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at me, and she said, Chip, I feel. like you don't

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love me when I spend all day cooking a meal to

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express my love to you and you don't show up

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and you don't call. It was like, get up and fight

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like a real man. You know, eyes watering up.

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I feel like, do you see where the attack has

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gone? It's an I feel message. And pretty soon

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it was I feel frustrated. I feel confused. I

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feel lonely. I feel left out. And you can learn

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to begin to express anger with this little message

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that doesn't attack the person. And then, you

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know, I don't know, something happened. I just

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thought, now, wait a second. I love to play ball,

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but I love my wife. If this makes her feel like

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I don't love her. Hey, guys, I got news for you.

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You know what? Get a brother over here and it's

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chain link fans. I said, you know what? This

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is your lucky day. I'm on and this is my team

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and you get my spot. I got to go. Okay, you can

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run. And I got home. I mean, it got to be, I

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rarely ever was not on time because as long as

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she was chiding me, as long as she was trying

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to get to change me, instead of opening her heart

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and telling me how she felt, then we were in

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a battle. When I realized I was wounding her.

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Well, I mean, I may not be sensitive, but I'm

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not a jerk. That is what, you know, isn't it

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the kindness of the Lord that brings us to repentance?

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It was her kindness that transformed me, not

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her nagging. This is Living on the Edge with

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Chip Ingram, and you've been listening to part

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one of Chip's message, How to Share Hearts Instead

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of Exchange Words, from our series, Uninvited

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Guests, Recognizing and Resisting the Attacks

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on Your Family. Chip will be back shortly to

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share some helpful application for us to think

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about. Many philosophers have likened marriage

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to an exciting adventure, which is true. So how

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can you and your spouse make the most of your

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journey together? For the next couple of programs,

00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:34.099
Chip will highlight two vital skills couples

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need to learn that will transform their relationship.

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When you learn to communicate more clearly and

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effectively resolve conflict, your connection

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to your mate will flourish and also serve as

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a powerful model for your kids to look up to.

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So whether you're a newlywed or have been together

00:28:50.230 --> 00:28:53.210
for decades, CHIPS Insights are sure to empower

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and encourage you. Chip's with me in studio now,

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and Chip, your mentor, Howard Hendricks, once

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said that the family is the cornerstone of society.

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So what are we doing as a ministry to address

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all the chaos and dysfunction surrounding families

00:29:07.460 --> 00:29:10.059
today? Well, Dave, really, the answer to that

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is pretty easy. When you see the discipleship

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deficit, it all begins with the family. And if

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families are going to be strong, that begins

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with a strong marriage of a husband and a wife

00:29:21.380 --> 00:29:24.019
who understand they're being bombarded each and

00:29:24.019 --> 00:29:26.240
every day with lies about what makes a great

00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.720
relationship. And so we've created some brand

00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.660
new resources that aren't a big book you have

00:29:31.660 --> 00:29:34.700
to read or a seminar you need to go to, but something

00:29:34.700 --> 00:29:37.680
to put on your nightstand that day by day, it

00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:39.740
could really transform your thinking and as a

00:29:39.740 --> 00:29:42.940
result, your marriage. We're calling them Marriage

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That Works Truth Cards. And during this series,

00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.579
we're doing something really radical. For those

00:29:49.579 --> 00:29:52.140
who choose to become monthly partners, we want

00:29:52.140 --> 00:29:54.960
to give you Marriage That Works Truth Cards as

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a way to say thanks. So today, would you consider

00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:01.339
being a financial partner to help us to repair

00:30:01.339 --> 00:30:04.259
and to strengthen marriages? Great challenge,

00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.599
Chip. And please know how much we appreciate

00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.660
your sacrifice. Your regular support allows us

00:30:09.660 --> 00:30:12.880
to plan our next steps as a ministry and be ready

00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.559
to walk through doors that God opens for us.

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And as Chip said during this entire series, if

00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.299
you become a monthly financial partner of Living

00:30:21.299 --> 00:30:23.619
on the Edge, we'll send you our newest resource,

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The Marriage That Works Truth Cards, as our thank

00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.279
you. Learn more by going to livingontheedge .org

00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:38.740
or by calling 888 - Again, that's 888 -333 -6003

00:30:38.740 --> 00:30:43.400
or visit livingontheedge .org. App listeners,

00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:46.140
tap donate. With that, here again is Chip to

00:30:46.140 --> 00:30:49.859
share a few final words. Communication is the

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highway upon which love travels. And you've got

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to get this. I love Teresa with all my heart.

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She loved me with all her heart. And I mean,

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she made me nuts. I mean, I just thought she

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was so narrow. What's the big deal? I just want

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to play basketball. And she thought I was so

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inconsiderate. We didn't connect. We didn't know

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how to break through that barrier until we used

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that tool, that I feel message. And I mean, it

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was like a dagger in my heart when she said,

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I feel her. when you, and then she explained

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it. And so here's the application for you. I

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want you to write onto the three by five card,

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I feel blank when you dot, dot, dot. And then

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instead of nagging and oughts and shoulds and

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trying to power your mate and get him to understand,

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I want you to use an I feel message. You just

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can't let your heart get wounded. You can't get

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bitter. You can't feel like it's impossible.

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When you love one another, the problem's not

00:31:45.740 --> 00:31:48.750
the person. The problem is discovering how to

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communicate your love in a way where the other

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person can get it. And it can happen. Today,

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use one I feel message. God will honor it. Good

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word, Chip. Listen in next time as Chip picks

00:32:01.150 --> 00:32:04.390
up in our newest series, Uninvited Guests. Until

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then, this is Dave Drewy saying thanks for joining

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us for this edition of Living on the Edge.
