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If God is in control, why is there so much pain

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and injustice in the world? I mean, if God knows

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everything, why doesn't he stop bad things from

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happening before people get hurt? If those questions

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trouble you the way they do me and you need solid

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answers, stick around. Thanks for listening to

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this edition of Living on the Edge with Chip

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Ingram. We are an international teaching and

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discipleship ministry that motivates Christians

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to live like Christians. Today, we're continuing

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our series, The Real God, How He Longs for You

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to See Him. Last time, Chip talked about God's

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sovereignty and started to highlight the specific

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ways He reveals that characteristic to us. And

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today, Chip will finish that point when he dives

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back into Romans chapter 8. So grab your Bible

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and notes as we join Chip for the remainder of

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this insightful talk. Jesus' whole life demonstrates

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the sovereignty of God himself. And finally,

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unlike his very humble beginnings, that he's

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meek and he's gentle, he came in his first coming

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to be the savior of the world. And I think a

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lot of us, maybe from our childhoods, have a

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picture of the little children coming to him.

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Those great pictures of a woman caught in adultery

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being forgiven and the widow with her son died,

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touching the coffin he's raised from the dead

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and feeding the 5 ,000s and speaking to the storm

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and just his compassion and his love. And that's

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God. But when you read the book of Revelation,

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read it really fast. No, no, I mean, just read

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it really fast and quit worrying about what seals

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are doing, what seals and, you know, what's blowing

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up and what's a figure and what's not. And just

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ask yourself, who's Jesus? Who's Jesus in the

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book of Revelation? He's the righteous judge

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who's coming to bring all things under his rule

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and power and anything that was unjust and unfair

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and wrong and every opportunity will be given.

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But the righteous judge is coming to judge his

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world because he's a king. Listen to the end

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of the book of Revelation in Revelation chapter

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19. Then I saw the heavens open and behold a

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white horse and the one sitting on it is called

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faithful and true. And in righteousness, he judges

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and makes war. His clothing is a robe dipped

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in blood, and the name which he is called is

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the word of God. On his robe and on his thigh,

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he has a name written, King of Kings and Lord

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of Lords. That's who's coming back. That's the

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sovereign God. Now, at the emotional level, at

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least where I live, the last reason I've given

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here of God revealing his sovereignty, is through

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redeeming pain in our lives. He redeems pain

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in our lives. If you are a student of scripture

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and you would read the book of Genesis, you would

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understand that every major doctrine, it's the

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book of beginnings. Every major doctrine is in

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the book of beginnings. Where did life come from?

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Creation. Why is there evil? The fall. You have

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the first judgment in the flood. You have the

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promise after that. You have the choosing of

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a family, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, of God's

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plan, God's lineage of his plan to fulfill this

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Messiah that was foretold that one day, you know,

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his heel will be bruised, but he will defeat

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the enemy. And God's plan, it's all laid out

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in Genesis, and you've got 50 chapters. If you're

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a person who lived a few thousand years ago or

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born a couple days ago, you don't have to live

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very long. before the probing question, and some

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of you ask it is, if God is really good, how

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could the world be this messed up? Genesis chapter

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37 through 50, that's 13 of 50 chapters. It's

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over 25 % of the book is on one man's life, Joseph.

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Joseph gets a dream from God. It's a promise

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that he hangs on to. It's how God is speaking

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to people at the time. He has a father who does

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poor parenting, shows partiality. So his brothers

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hate him. His brothers hate him and they decide

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they're going to kill him. They're jealous of

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him. They're going to kill him. They're tired

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of him. And he probably didn't handle the revelation

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from God very well. He's a bit arrogant and that's

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going to get taken care of. And so they decide

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they're going to kill him. So they stick him

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in a pit while they're waiting to kill him. And

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it just so happens, or God sovereignly. brings

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a caravan from Egypt. And they say, why kill

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him? And the one brother's trying to get him

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out anyway. So they sell him. And so it's unjust.

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It's unfair. Joseph is just a son. He's the youngest.

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And first his brothers reject him. How many of

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you have been through a major rejection? Okay.

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Well, what's it feel like if all your brothers,

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and you know, our rejections are like, you know,

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emotional. This is like, they want to kill him.

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And then they sell him. And so they sell him.

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He's on the caravan. He doesn't speak the language.

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He doesn't know anyone. So he ends up on an auction

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block in Egypt as a slave. And a guy named Potiphar,

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who basically is the equivalent of the secret

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service for Pharaoh, buys him. And so he buys

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him and he makes him his slave. And he obviously

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learns the language. And all chapters 37 through

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50, there's this... And the Lord is with Joseph,

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and Joseph, no matter what, this promise, this

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God who he actually believes, fulfills his promises,

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who actually believes is good, somehow, someway,

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he hangs on and doesn't abandon his faith. And

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he also seems to have a highly developed gift

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of administration that when he's in charge of

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something, it flourishes. And so it doesn't take

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long for Potiphar to realize this guy's got some

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wherewithal and some capacity. He puts him over

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his business, then all of his household and everything

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he touches, the hand of God, a blessing. Well,

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apparently he's a pretty good looking young man.

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And Potiphar's wife says, you know, my husband's

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gone a lot during the day. We could have sex.

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We'd have a great time. And most men would say,

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well, let's see, rejection. God promised me this.

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My brothers sell me out. I've been a slave, you

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know, but not Joseph. He says, how could I sin

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against your husband? He's put everything under

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my charge except for you. And I could not sin

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against my God. And so he rebuffs her seduction.

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But one day he's kind of just doing a little

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bit of work and the house is empty and she finds

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him and she says, now come lay with me. And he

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does what almost no man would ever do in this

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situation is he flees and she grabs his jacket.

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And so she's left with the jacket and she's humiliated.

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And so her husband comes home. What have you

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done to bring this crazy Hebrew he tried to rape

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me? And so he ends up in jail. So it's gone from

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bad, bad to worse. So now he's falsely accused.

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Now he goes to jail. He goes to jail. His administrative

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gifts show up again. He seems to have a great

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attitude no matter what. And pretty soon the

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head of the jail goes, you know, we're going

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to have him run this place. And so he does. And

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it flourishes and flourishes and flourishes.

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But I mean, think of this. Where's God? Where's

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God? You know, if God loves me, why would my

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brothers reject me? If God loves me, I did all

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that I could. In fact, I was righteous and I

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was falsely accused. Well, then a couple guys

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in Pharaoh's household, cupbearer and the baker,

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they have a bad day. And so they end up in prison

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and they both have a dream. And Joseph said,

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well, you know, my God has given me an ability.

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Tell me what your dreams are. And he reveals

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to me kind of what dreams are sometimes. One

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guy says, this is my dream. Another guy says,

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this is my dream. He says to one guy, good news

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for you. You're going to get your job back. You're

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going to die. And it comes true, you know. And

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so he says to the cupbearer, hey, you know, this

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happened, this happened, this happened, this

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happened. Don't forget me. Oh, no, I could never

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forget you. Thanks so much. He forgets him. I

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mean, start asking yourself, I mean, let's get

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this out of a Bible story. Rejection. Injustice.

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Falsely accused. Forgotten. How's that feel?

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He's a 17 -year -old kid. Well, the story continues

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and the Pharaoh has a dream and his wise men

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and the sorcerers and he's very frustrated. They're

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not giving him good answers. So he comes up with

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a plan. Look, either you guys tell me what the

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dream is and what it means or I kill all of you.

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And that got the cupbearer's memory jogged. He's

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thinking to himself, you know what? Joseph did

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it once for me. So the text literally says he

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took a shave. He came in before Pharaoh. He hears.

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He says, Pharaoh, this is what you dreamed. There's

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going to be seven years of abundance followed

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by seven years of scarcity. Here's the deal.

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You better plan in the future. You need to save

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a bunch of grain because it's going to be awesome

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for seven years. And then it's going to be the

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pits. And if you're not prepared, you and Egypt

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go down the toilet. This is a very loose Ingram

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translation, but you get the idea. I mean, that's

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the essence of it. And so, you know, Pharaoh

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goes, well, hey, no one could, you're the man,

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you do it. So at 30, he's now the second most

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powerful person in the world. None of which could

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happen if he'd not been rejected, sold as a slave,

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falsely accused, and forgotten. God had a purpose.

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Now, are all those people responsible for their

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sin? Yes. Will God judge all those people for

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what they did? Righteous judgment? Yes. The story

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fast forwards. uses his gifts. He has a couple

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boys. He names them names that... Let us know

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the heartache and the pain and the hurt that

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had really happened. And he names his boys names

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that remind him of both God's faithfulness and

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the pain and the hurt. And after the seven years,

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this famine spreads not just to Egypt, but to

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the known world. And the family is at about 70

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now. And finally, they come to Egypt to get grain.

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And I'll let you read all the details of the

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story. But he tests his brothers, but his heart

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just breaks and he weeps. And he reveals himself

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to his brothers. And he asks, Pharaoh and he

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brings all 70 people and they get this prime

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real estate in Goshen. And God uses that as the

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incubator to fulfill for the next 400 years,

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it grows from 70 people to about two or three

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million people. And then dad dies, Jacob. And

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his brothers, being the high integrity, faithful,

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God -fearing men that they are, think to themselves,

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Joseph probably was just good to us while dad

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was alive and it's going to get bad. And so they

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start making up some stuff to try and get on

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his good side. And I believe with all my heart,

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Joseph looked at them and I think his head tilted

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and I think tears streamed down his face. Guys,

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you still don't get it, do you? You didn't send

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me here. You meant it for evil, but God meant

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it for good to preserve these many people alive.

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You're listening to Living on the Edge, and we'll

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get back to Chip's message in just a minute.

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for now, let's get back to the remainder of his

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talk. You might jot in your notes the Genesis

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50 -20 principle. The sovereignty of God is the

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greatest and deepest comfort in a fallen world.

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because of what we shared a little bit early

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about the freedom God's given us. He marks off

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for a season where evil is allowed and corruption

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and terrible things happen, but not for everyone,

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but for those who say, I want to follow Yahweh,

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the God of the Bible, follow Jesus. I'm going

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to stay on your path regardless because crisis

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and pain and injustice and difficulty make some

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people and break others. For some, it's... It's

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the story of a life of faith that none of us

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can understand as God meets them. And for others,

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they abandon God. And by the way, one of my greatest

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concerns about all this prosperity stuff that's

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being taught is that when people believe that

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somehow there's some little formula and that

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God has committed himself to make you healthy,

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wealthy, everything's going to go your way. And

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when that doesn't happen, they are completely

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disillusioned with God. But that's not the God

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of the Bible because he never promised those

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things. This really rings home for me. I think

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of when I taught this, sometimes things come

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to me that aren't in my notes, and I just got

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done talking, and I said this, and I looked down,

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and I looked at my wife. And it just popped in

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my mind. She was married before I met her, and

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she wasn't a Christian. And she was married to

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a guy that found he could make more money selling

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drugs than going to work. And he had an affair

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for over a year, year and a half with someone

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that she was unaware of. And then he found out

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that she was pregnant, twins. And so he leaves

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her and she's left and has two babies, no income,

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no anything. And out of her desperation, she

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just said, I just want, I wanted to quit on life.

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My whole life was wrapped up in that man. Now

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I've got two little boys and I don't know how

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I'm going to support him. I'm going to do, and

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a neighbor watched the kids and her, her boss

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led her to Christ. I met her a couple years later

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when she was growing into this tender, amazing

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woman of God out of all that pain. You know what?

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That guy meant it for evil. God meant it for

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good. I got to marry her. I got to adopt those

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two little boys. I got to watch kids that when

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the door would open, they were so fearful that

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they would run and stick their head behind her

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knee. And I got to see him become men. And I've

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seen him grow. And I've seen him marry godly

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women. And I'm watching him raise their kids.

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I'm thinking, oh, God, that guy meant it for

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evil. You meant it for good. Can I tell you,

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though, that there's a reason we went to counseling.

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There's a reason we had all kind of struggles.

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I mean, she had wounds and hurts. And I had just

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as many, but mine were more sophisticated. I

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covered mine up better. But I think, you know,

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38 years later, what a gift from God that came

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out of betrayal and evil and sin and adultery.

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I thought as I looked down at her, I thought

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we got some really bad news and found out she

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had cancer. And after, you know, we've been married

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over 30 years and after all that struggle, I

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mean, I just, I thought we had about as good

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a marriage as we could have. Hey, we get normal

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struggles like everybody. I mean, rich and deep.

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And then I remember thinking, you know, I don't

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know if I'm going to have another month or two

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months or a year or two years. And I just canceled

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everything for a year other than the local church.

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And, you know, tell that publisher, here, you

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want your money back? I'm not going to write

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a book. I'm not going to go anywhere. And after

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surgery, I drove her to every single one of the

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Stanford appointments. And she would go through

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the treatments. And then after each treatment,

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we would stop at Starbucks. And we would get

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one oatmeal cookie. And they would heat it up.

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And then we would break it in half. And she was

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just so wiped out, those treatments. And then

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we would sit in the car and we'd eat our oatmeal

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cookie. And I remember looking over and thought,

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I did not know that I could love another human

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being as much as I love my wife. It was like

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I knew there was, you know, I thought we had

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a four speed. And somehow there was another couple

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gears. But those gears came out of a painful,

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difficult, ugly cancer. And by the way, for others,

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the pain is there isn't a recovery. Some of you

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have lost children, mates. Some of you have had

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your whole incomes out from under you. And all

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I want you to know is that what we hang on to,

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there really is a sovereign God. He really is

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in control. But the invisible faith is, if you

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ask Joseph, how was life going from 17 to 29

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and a half? Circumstantially, bad. But part of

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what God does is God will leverage and use your

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pain and take... The comfort that he gives to

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you as the comfort that you can share with others,

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right? 2 Corinthians 1. And there's some things

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that no amount of Bible study, no amount of spiritual

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disciplines, you only meet God in the midst of

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excruciating pain when the only one that can

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deliver is God. And he meets you in ways that

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you can't describe. And something happens in

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your heart, in your life that makes you more

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like Jesus and gives you a capacity that you

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would never ever, when you look back, you would

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never want to go through it again, but you realize

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it's precious. And it's a part of the journey.

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And by the way, that's what God is actually seeking

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to develop. That Romans 8, 28, we quote it, but

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for some reason we just skipped 29. 29 is that

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he predestined and called us according to his

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purpose to conform us to the image of his son.

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How he conforms us, I got news for you, it's

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painful. But he leverages the evil and the difficulty

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and the pain. But you can get bitter. You can

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get self -focused. You can go into pity. You

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can somehow unconsciously think that the only

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thing there really is in life is this little

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window called time. But you're made for eternity.

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C .S. Lewis' little illustration for me has been

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just a lifesaver in the midst of my worst pain.

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He goes, if you could imagine like fishing line

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going through that wall, across this room, through

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that wall. East to eternity, west to eternity,

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that's eternity. And then there's a little dot

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about the size of a pencil on that line. And

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inside that dot, that's all of time, that little

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dot. And inside that dot, if with a powerful

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super electronic microscope, there would be this

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tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny little dot that

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would be your life. And maybe you get 70, maybe

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you get 80 years, I don't know. And that little

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dot. is just temporal. And God is doing all kind

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of things and some of them are very, very, very

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painful. But how I respond and what I learn forever

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and ever goes on. And when I can have an eternal

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perspective for a sovereign God who loves me

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and know that those I've lost love Him and I

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will be with them. You know what? Most Christians

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don't really believe in heaven. It's just a concept.

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It's just an idea. Heaven's real. It's a place

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and you're not gonna float around on a cloud

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and sing in a worship service and sip iced tea

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and get wings and ring bells. It's gonna be a

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new earth and a new heaven and new relationships

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and the people that you love that are in the

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Lord and you're gonna have life and culture and

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future and work. And it's the line. And I love

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Lewis's words. Are you living for the dot or

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are you living for the line? And the sovereignty

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of God. gives me hope in the midst of the worst

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tragedies in the world. It also gives me the

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faith to not give up. I just have to think that

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Joseph had more than a few days where it was

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like, Lord, where's the dream? Where's the promise?

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And all the while, this is what God was doing

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in Joseph. His character, his character, his

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character. See, if God's going to put you over

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something like this, he has to do a lot of this.

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And the only way you get a lot of this depth

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of character is going through the crucible of

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life. And God has that plan for all of us. He

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wants to make you like Jesus. There's two questions

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that this raises. If God is sovereign, why does

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he allow evil, pain, and suffering? And I would

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say The Problem of Pain by C .S. Lewis is the

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shortest, best work on that. There's lots of

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writing. You might write down Ken Boa. He's a

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friend. He's a brilliant writer, thinker. He

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has lots of good information on this. The second

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question is, if God is sovereign over all people

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and events in history, Doesn't this make a sham

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of human responsibility? And Norman Geisler,

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one of my former professors, did 10 years as

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a philosophy teacher, 10 years as Bible, and

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then theology. And Chosen But True, I think,

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is the best book that's balanced on the sovereignty

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of God and the responsibility of man. It's really

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interesting. I was reviewing this and praying

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earlier, and I thought to myself, you know, some

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of the responses to all of God's attributes,

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they start looking a lot alike. I mean, this

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sovereign God that every knee will bow, Application

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number one, how do you respond? Bow before the

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king of the universe. You're going to. Everyone

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is. The sooner, the better. And voluntarily is

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way better than by compulsion. Surrender all

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you are and all that you have. There has to come

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a specific day and a point in time. You don't

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slide into surrender. It's a decision. And when

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you make that decision and mean it, I've watched

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Christians who, they basically say, my life has,

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I think, changed more than when I was born again.

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And all I can tell you is if God is really good

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and he's the king of the universe, I mean, the

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only other option is you decide you be God and

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you use your knowledge and your wisdom and you

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shuck and jive and you try to figure out, make

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your life work. Good luck. Good luck. The wisest,

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most intelligent, most emotionally satisfying

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and rewarding life for a follower of Jesus is

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to offer. It's in what's called the aorist tense.

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It's a point in time. Offer your body as a living

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sacrifice. Holy and acceptable. This is your

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spiritual service. And what it means is it's

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what God really wants. Maybe you were thinking

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about it. I'm just going to say maybe you should

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think about it a little bit more. The second

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application is to believe that all that comes

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into your life is either allowed or decreed by

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a good God who will use it for your benefit.

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And what I mean by this is not intellectually

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believe it. I mean, I mean, believe it to the

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point where you say, despite how my emotions

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are screaming. I'm going to choose to be faithful.

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And by the way, for some of you, faithful just

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means you just get up and take a step because

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the pain and the difficulty and the hurt and

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the loss and the grief is so excruciating. God

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understands. He's kind. Remember, he's tenderhearted.

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He's quick of sympathy. How did Jesus treat people

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that were hurting? His arms weren't crossed.

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He didn't say, you know, come on, pull up your

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bootstraps, get with the program. You should

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be serving more. He just, he would just love

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you. He just wants to help you. He just wants

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to nurture you through this. But believe, believe

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to the point of trusting. And here's what I would

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say by way of application is absolutely refuse

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to worry. That's one of those, you know, I think

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someone has written a book, you know, sins that.

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Christians, we all give each other a pass on

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or something like that. Acceptable sins. You

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know, if the Bible says don't be anxious for

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anything, and it's a command, I'm guessing that

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being anxious is sinful. But, you know, there's

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some sins where like, I mean, you know, like

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we're all sins, so let's just... It's an insult

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to God. If he's a sovereign God and he's good.

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Now, is it hard not to worry? You have to practice

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Philippians 4, 6, and 7. Don't be anxious for

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anything, but in everything, by prayer, a general

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word, get your focus up on God, and supplication.

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In other words, you're going to ask very specific

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things with thanksgiving, choosing to rejoice,

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make your specific request. So yes, it's a practice.

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And as you heard, and as you're anxious, you

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do that. And you know what? You can learn. Oswald

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Chambers' big line was really, his whole life

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is Galatians 2 .20. I'm crucified with Christ.

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Nevertheless, I live. Yet not I, but Christ lives

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within me. And this life that I now live, I live

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by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave

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himself for me. It was this abiding life that

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God is in control. Therefore, I can't project

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tomorrow. I refuse to worry of outcomes I can't

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control. But I'm going to entrust that to God.

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If he's sovereign, you can do that if you believe

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it. Third is behold in all the mystery and the

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majesty of his kind, compassionate, just, and

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sovereign rule over all that is or will ever

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be. And the application for some of you, this

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is very easy. For some of us high productivity

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driven type A people, this is very difficult.

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Worship God for who he is, not merely for what

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he's done. singing to the Lord, reading Psalms

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out loud slowly, believing them. I mean, isn't

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it amazing that when you read the Psalms, how

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David in the midst of responsibility and warfare

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and all the rest, how he praises God, he thanks

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God, he laments, but he is a worshiper. And the

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more you begin to be in awe of, rather than argue

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about sovereignty and responsibility, as we would

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be in awe of who God is and worship him. As you

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worship him, what happens is you will begin to

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believe and experience a God who is bigger. And

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when you experience a God who is bigger and holy

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and loving, then what happens is the truth that

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you have begins to transform and get ingrained

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into what you actually believe and your values

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and how you actually live. And I just think it's

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easy not to be a worshiper. I think it's easy

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to be a Christian get stuff done person. And

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there's some of you that, you know, my wife is

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the opposite. She's a worshiper. Wow. You know,

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sometimes I think if I got time with Jesus and

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my wife, I think it goes something like this.

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Teresa and I have been working out a lot of issues

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over the last few decades with you, Chip, and

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we appreciate you running all the errands for

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us. I'm serious. You know, I'm an activity -aholic.

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I mean, I just, I see what could be, and oh,

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God wants to do this. And I just feel this compulsion

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to say, oh, if this is true, you got to act on

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it. So I have to learn to be a worshiper. And

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maybe that's some of you. You're listening to

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Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram. And the

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message you just heard, the sovereignty of God,

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is from our series, The Real God. Chip will join

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us in studio to share some insights from today's

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talk in just a minute. You know, we've all unintentionally

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projected some of humanity's worst qualities

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into our Creator. Many view God as moody, weak,

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unfair, impatient, and merciless. But those ideas

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couldn't be further from the truth. Through this

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series, Chip explores key Bible passages to reveal

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seven fundamental characteristics of our Heavenly

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Father, attributes that reflect the very essence

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of His divine nature. Join Chip on this journey

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to reshape your perspective toward God, which

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will deepen your relationship with Him like never

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before. You won't want to miss a single part

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of this study. Well, Chip's joining me here in

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studio. And Chip, I think it's safe to say we

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all want a better relationship with God and to

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really grow spiritually. So take a minute, if

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you would, and talk about a habit you've developed

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in your personal walk with Jesus that our listeners

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can apply to their lives. Well, that's an easy

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one, Dave. It really begins and ends with time

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in God's Word, actually learning to meet with

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God on a daily basis. It's just foundational

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for every believer's journey. And it's a practice

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that I find are really hard for Christians to

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get consistent in. And then they often feel like,

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I don't know how to do it. I can't understand

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the Bible. And so we've developed something called

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Daily Discipleship. And I think that's the great

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place to start. It's a free video tool where

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I literally mentor and study the Bible with people.

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I mean, individually. I talk for about 10 minutes

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max, and then I ask them to give me 10 minutes

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with a small resource to get in the Bible for

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themselves. We look at the very core text of

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Romans 12, James 1, Ephesians 6. We'll learn

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how to pray. We'll experience time with God,

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not just simply read the Bible. Check it out.

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Daily Discipleship with Chip. Thanks, Chip. So

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if you're looking for a practical way to deepen

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your faith, let me encourage you to sign up for

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Daily Discipleship with Chip. This free video

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resource will help you learn more about God and

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His Word. To sign up for any of our Daily Discipleship

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series, visit livingontheedge .org. That's livingontheedge

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.org. App listeners, tap Discipleship. Well,

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with that, here again is Chip to share his application

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from today's message. Think on this one thought

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as you go throughout the day. Nothing today or

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nothing in your past, in fact, nothing in your

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future, will ever enter your life that God has

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not willfully decreed or allowed to occur. There

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isn't haphazard issues floating all around that

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are messing up your life. God is in control.

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What a comfort of all the things in Scripture

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that bring great comfort to my heart. I think

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that's one of the most important things with

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regard to the character of God that I've learned

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in my life. God is sovereign. And what I know

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is that regardless of what happens, He is working

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and using every event, every person, every hardship,

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every difficulty for my good. He does work all

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things together for my good. And I don't know

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about you, but that produces a deep rest in my

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soul. And then it produces worship. Imagine the

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power, the majesty, the all -knowing that it

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requires to orchestrate every life on the planet

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to fulfill His purposes and our good. Why don't

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you worship Him today? thanks for that great

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challenge chip as we wrap up i want to thank

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those of you who make this program possible through

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your generous financial support Your gifts help

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next time, this is Dave Drewy saying thanks for

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listening to this edition of Living on the Edge.
