If I could use two words to describe our current
society, they would be noisy and isolated. Now,
those words may seem like opposites, but hear
me out. Like never before, we're inundated by
the sounds and distractions of everyday life.
And at the same time, we're becoming more and
more distanced from one another. So, how can
we survive? That's today. Thanks for joining
us for this edition of Living on the Edge with
Chip Ingram. We are an international teaching
and discipleship ministry that encourages and
equips Christians to live like Christians. Well,
in just a minute, we'll continue our series,
Get Out of Your Head, taught by our guest speaker,
Jenny Allen. She's a best -selling author, experienced
Bible teacher, and the founder of the If Gathering
Events. Today, Jenny begins identifying toxic
thoughts that pollute our minds and the biblical
remedies that can stop them. And to help you
learn more about this idea of taking every thought
captive, let me encourage you to get Jenny's
book, which this series was based on. Visit livingontheedge
.org or the Chippengram app to get your copy.
Okay, with all that said, here's Jenny with her
talk, The Antidote for Noise and Isolation. We
live in the noisiest generation that has ever
been. No generation has had to deal with more
inputs than ours. So what does it look like to
shift the spiral? And I want to define the spiral.
So throughout the book, the idea of a spiral
is how we have actually built out all of these
chapters. So when you look at this chapter on
stillness, you're going to see this spiral that
says discontent is this emotion I feel. And then
the thought that you have is I'll feel better
if I stay distracted. And we're watching the
spiral of an emotion hitting a thought, a thought
hitting a behavior, a behavior hitting a relationship.
And those spirals, are going through our minds
all the time. And what God wants to do is he
wants to shift the spiral from a negative spiral
that's spiraling down. He wants to shift it to
one that's going up, one that is going toward
him. But that interruption and that distraction
that constantly has you pulling away from God,
that distraction is our responsibility. We have
a choice to change the way we think, but we have
to choose it. I tell my kids this all the time,
but I think sometimes we need a parent telling
us the same thing, bossing us around just a little
bit. And so when we were thinking about a title,
I said, you know, the thing that I want to happen
is I want to be able to grab everybody by their
shoulders and speak as clearly and boldly as
I can to them. Because in the midst of a spiral
that's been constant in your life, you need somebody
to just grab you by the shoulders and say, hey,
stop. Like you don't have to do this anymore.
And so that's going to be a lot of how I speak
to you. So bear with me. I'm a really nice person
in real life, but I care about you and I want
you to be free. And so I want you to picture
me right now, grabbing you by the shoulders and
saying to you, looking you in the eyes and saying,
you have a choice. You don't have to spiral out.
We can set up things that can limit our time
on Instagram. We can set up things that limit
the noise in our lives, but we have to choose
it. We have to choose it. And ultimately, we
have to choose the truth. The truth that is going
to cut through the noise, that is going to cut
through the lies, because all that noise isn't
ambient, random noise. That noise is feeding
us lies. It's feeding us ideas about our worth,
ideas about what we need to be happy, ideas about
our relationships. It's not like that noise is
just subtle background noise, elevator music.
That noise is telling us things, and most of
what it's telling us is lies. And so we have
to see it that way. We've got to do a better
job of surveying our lives, noticing our inputs,
and noticing the things that we're believing
because of those inputs. My daughter, Kate, she's
18, and she is so zealous about this. She's better
than me about this. She will take social media,
Instagram, everything off of her phone and leave
it off unless she wants to share something, a
post or something. She'll put it on and she'll
scroll and see what her friends are up to, but
she generally has it off of her phone. And I
think of it... Both my older kids are good at
this. I think of it like old money and new money.
The idea of new money is that you just blow it
all at once. And that's kind of how our generation
has been with our phones and with technology.
We have just overdone it. And I think this generation
coming has watched. Their parents do that and
they've watched themselves and the temptation
that this is, and they are aware this is toxic
and dangerous. They are aware that they are filling
their minds with lies and that it is affecting
their generation. My other daughter who wanted
Instagram so badly was begging me for it, begging
me for it, begging me for it. Finally, I sent
her an article and I said, I'm going to tell
you really clearly why I'm not giving this to
you. When she read the article about mental illness
and Instagram and comparison in this younger
generation, she quit asking. She didn't want
it. Years later, she has it, but she wasn't as
eager to have it when she realized that's the
reason her friends are depressed. That's the
reason her friends are anxious. And we've got
to be better surveyors of our life. But we also
have to be better fighters for the truth. All
of us have a choice when we wake up in the morning.
In fact, I told the story in the book about waking
up in the morning and immediately spiraling out
because I had the thought, I need to spend time
with Jesus. And instead I picked up my phone.
That is all of our realities every single morning.
We always have a choice. And the reason it's
urgent that we spend time with Jesus is not because
there's some angel in heaven like checking off,
did she spend time with Jesus today? Did she
spend time with Jesus today? It is because we
are at war and we need the truth in our minds
first. We need to know who we are in Christ.
We need to know who God is. We need to have truth
so clearly before us that when we see other inputs
coming our way and when we're onslaughted, by
all this noise, we can sort out the lies and
the truth. When the truth is set before our minds
completely clearly, this is who God is. This
is what is true. Then when a lie comes, we notice
it's a lie. We know how to fight it. We know
what's true. That is why God wants time with
us. It's not so that we know more and more and
more about God. It's that we can fight better,
that we can actually live the things that we
know about God. better, but we have to know them
first. We can't just expect God to fight for
us when the main way he is fighting for us is
through his word. It says that his word is a
two -edged sword, that it cuts through marrow,
that it cuts through bone, that it pierces our
soul, that there's nothing else that has the
power to do that. The word of God can change
us. It says it will never return void, that it
will always enter us and change us. Connection
with God. is the foundation for every other God
-given tool we're going to talk about that we
have to fight with. We cannot know God. We cannot
give God. We cannot rest in God. We cannot find
hope without time with Him. That is how we get
God. We need stillness with God. We don't just
need mindfulness. I mean, that was the lack I
saw in the self -help world. I read a lot of
those books and they were so interesting and
fascinating, but I always wondered like, how
do they actually think this works when the answer
in their book was how awesome we are? I'm like,
I'm not that awesome. Like that falls apart pretty
quickly. Or when the answer is just be still
and think about your thoughts. I'm like, well,
that falls short if you don't have hope. Y 'all,
that's why I love Jesus. That's why I preach
the gospel. That's why I shouldn't be found in
the self -help section because my books aren't
that much about self -help. They're about God
help. They're about how he has helped us and
the tools and the power that he's given us. Yes,
to make our own choice, but with his power, with
his weapons, with his truth. Yes, there are methods
in psychology that are truly helpful, but almost
every one that's actually helpful is rooted somewhere
in the Bible because God built our brains, because
he designed them. Our minds are actually physically
built for silence the way God designed us. Your
brain actually physiologically alters. Scientists
have found that brains of the people who spend
hours in prayer and meditation alone are different.
Your imagination gets rewired. When you're relaxed,
anxiety and depression actually decrease. Several
studies that demonstrated that subjects who meditated
for a short time showed increased alpha waves,
the relaxed brain waves, and decreased anxiety
and depression. You guys, this changes our brains.
And so yes, what scientists discover about them
happen to reflect the brilliance and power of
that design that God built. So you ready? I'm
going to mama bear you. I want you. Every single
day. I want you to put your Bible by your bed
and I want it to be what you read before you
grab your phone. I want you to read it every
single day because it matters that much. Because
this is how we go to war. This is how we fight
better. In the middle of the night, I told you
about that season of doubt. And in the middle
of the night, one thing I did was I bought this
little light that could clip on my Bible and
I put my Bible by my bed and I put that little
light on it because I didn't want to wake up
my husband, but I just had to start reading truth.
And so what I would do is I would go to a psalm
that I love, that my kids had memorized when
they were young at their school, and I wanted
to memorize as well. And so I would open it up
to Psalm 139, and it talks about if you go down
to the pit, if you go down to Sheol, He is there.
And if you ascend to the heavens, he is there.
That there is nowhere you can go away from God.
And that comforted me because my fear was in
the middle of my doubt was that he wouldn't be
in death, that he wouldn't be in the grave, that
it would just fade to black. And guys, I had
to fight that with truth. And so fast forward,
I'm in Uganda with some dear friends and I'm
sitting, because I'm fixated on that scripture,
I'm sitting in a devotional, staff devotional.
With Food for the Hungry, their entire team was
in there, all local Ugandans and South Sudanese
refugees that serve up there in Northern Uganda.
And I'm sitting in this office, I mean, way off
the beaten path of life. I mean, we're talking
like took a little, small little plane to get
out there and a bus after that. And we were just
in the middle of nowhere. And guess what they
opened to in the middle of my war with my mind?
He opens to Psalm 139 and he reads specifically
that part of the passage. And guys, I start weeping.
Because I know that God is fighting for me. How
did he fight for me? With his word. He fought
for me with his word. That is how God is fighting
for you right now. That book that you feel burdened
by, that you think, oh, it's an obligation. I
have to do that. I've got too much to do. That
book is God fighting for you, fighting for you
to be more free, fighting for you to know him
more and his love for you more. Fighting for
you to understand how much he has done and how
much he wants to do for you. That's what this
is. And so when we receive that, there is a relationship
that's built. It's not about us checking something
off a list. It's like, gosh, my God is there.
I want to be with him. I want to know him. Psalm
8410 says, for a day in your courts is better
than a thousand elsewhere. Do we believe that?
Do we believe that time with God is better than
any other place we could be? It is. The only
place I have ever felt true peace, it is with
God and especially peace in the midst of difficulty,
but even peace in the midst of a mourning or
anxious thoughts or worry, y 'all pulling out.
When I say get out of your head, I don't mean
get out of your head into nothingness. I mean,
get out of your head into a relationship with
God. And when we put God and fixate him in the
center of our mind, then there is this accountability
because guess what? God knows every thought we
think before we think it. Psalmist says. So we
have a God that knows our thoughts already. He's
in them with us. And we have to realize that
that should bring some accountability and it
should also bring some companionship, right?
Like we are not alone in our own thoughts. God
is with us in them. And he's not angry at us
about them. He just desperately wants us to be
free of the lies that we are choosing to believe.
Some of you don't know this, but God really likes
you. Like he likes you. I think about my son
in the morning when he has been a brat the day
before, but he comes down and he's going to ask
for breakfast and he's 11 years old and he's
just hard. And I love him so much, but you know,
he's just gets in trouble. And so he's coming
down for breakfast and he turns the corner. And
you know what I feel almost every time he turns
that corner is how much I like him. I like him.
I like him. I don't just love him. I don't just
need him to do something for me. I don't, I like
him. And I think that's the thing we miss about
God is that he likes us. Yes, he's fighting for
us. Yes, he loves us. Yes, he sent his son to
die for us, but he also delights over us. And
I think as we fixate on that, all of a sudden
we want to be with that God. We want to enjoy
him. We want to experience his delight over us
and we want to be with him. My daughter is so
great. And the reason she's so great is because
she has walked through a season of doubt and
realized that God is true too. And I just want
to tell you that this isn't like some great parenting
skill set that got Kate where she is. This is
her own faith journey that she had to go through
with God. And what Kate will do when she's going
through a dark season is she won't watch Netflix.
She won't listen to podcasts. She will just turn
on sermons. And she lets these pastors, there's
about a handful of them, fight for her. And she
listens to them and she listens to truth because
she knows if I watch Netflix right now, I'm going
to fill my head with more lies. And so a 17 -year
-old, I mean, you can imagine how convicted I
am. I walk in at nine o 'clock at night and she's
in her bed and I think she's watching Netflix
and I look and she's watching sermons. Like this
is how Kate is who she is, is because she will
not settle to be stuck in bondage. She allows
people to fight for her. She allows God to fight
for her because she puts truth in. She doesn't
just listen to lies all day long. She knows the
value of inputs. We have to realize the value
of our inputs. And we have to realize that whether
or not we're choosing them, they're coming for
us in the form of lies all day, every day. And
guys, this also applies to our kids. We got to
fight for them. They're getting inputs every
single day. All day long, my sweet 11 -year -old
boy goes to a public school and you cannot believe
he's such a talker. He comes home and tells me
everything that he's heard that day. And I'm
like, this is worse than an X -rayed movie. Like,
this is fifth grade. At public school, my kid
is being bullied on certain days. I'm sure my
kid is bullying on certain days, but I'm just
saying the inputs in his life are legit. They're
dark and they're legit. And all of our kids are
fighting more darkness than we can understand.
And we've got to fight for them. How do we fight
for them? We give them the same truth that we
have to have. We sit over them. We read scripture
over them. Yesterday morning, Cooper had had
a bad day at school and I pulled him on my lap.
I said, I want to tell you, I've been praying
for you. And I know we talk about Jesus a lot,
but I want to tell you about grace again, because
grace has changed my life. And I think it is
the greatest gift that God's given us. And I
just started talking him through it. And I said,
today, when you feel frustrated with people and
you feel bullied, I want you to think about grace.
Like, I just want you to think how much God likes
you and that that's enough. And you know, I think
he was distracted, but I'm fighting for him anyway.
I mean, that's what we've got to do. We've got
to fight for ourselves and we've got to fight
for our people. You're listening to Insightful
Words from Jenny Allen. She's our guest speaker
for this series, Get Out of Your Head. This is
Chip Ingram and you're listening to Living on
the Edge. And I pray that Jenny's words have
encouraged you to protect your minds from the
noise that we're bombarded by day in and day
out in our society. For the rest of our time,
Jenny will explain why it's important that we
find meaningful connections with others in a
world that's becoming increasingly isolated.
So here's Jenny. Have you ever heard of something
called mirror neurons? So this is when you're
sitting across from somebody else, a friend over
coffee, let's say, and your mirror neurons are
all firing. And what that looks like is they
share something with you and they have a very
sad face. And all of a sudden you mirror their
face. You are sad with them. That's coming from
something in your brain that is telling you physiologically
to empathize with them. And you guys were built
for this. God put that in us because he knew
that we had to do life together. that we couldn't
just live on these isolated islands going through
our junk and not connect with others. We are
physically hardwired for connection. When I look
back at those 18 months that... I was struggling
with doubt. And I mean, it really turned into
a crisis of my faith. But where I gave into that
attack and where I gave the enemy way too much
power is that I was completely isolated, that
I never brought anybody into it. I never said
out loud the thoughts I was thinking. I never
told my husband. I never told my small group
who I met with weekly, y 'all. I was in deep
relationship with people. I could have said it
out loud. I could have even texted out friends
that they wouldn't be mad if I texted them in
the middle of the night when I was under attack.
But evil is subtle and it comes for us and we
barely notice. In fact, evil loves to not be
noticed. It wants to sneak up on us and it wants
to tell us things and it doesn't want to be noticed.
And so for 18 months, I didn't notice it. I just
sat there in it. But as we notice our thoughts
and as we notice the lies that we've been believing,
we need to say those things out loud. Now, some
of you are thinking, it's not a lie. It's true.
Well, you don't know. Let me just say, as someone
who lived in my brain for 18 months with the
devil telling me lies, I didn't know what was
true and what was a lie. All I knew was my thoughts
were, you know, all over the place. And I was
having a lot of discouraging, doubtful thoughts,
but I didn't even think about it. I didn't think
that this was attack. In a second, I said it
out loud. chains begin to fall because the second
I said it out loud, I realized one, how stupid
it sounded that I really do believe in God. I
don't believe the lies. I don't. And then two,
it was so clear I was under spiritual attack
the second I said it out loud. And the other
thing that happened, if you've read the book,
you know. I had some pretty incredible friends
that began to fight for me. And they began to
fight for me as if my life and faith depended
on it. They did not take it lightly. And you
guys have to know how vulnerable that was for
me. For me to receive these dear friends, Esther
and Anne, praying and fasting, like not eating
for 24 hours for me, like that just felt so hard
to receive. But I was so desperate that I said,
okay. And I need this. And so for 24 hours, all
of us, we fasted and we prayed. And I look back
and I don't know that I'd be free without those
friends fighting for me, without my small group
fighting for me. As I shared with them what I
was going through, I had a small little bitty
army that fought for me. My husband at the top
of the list. Once he realized what was happening.
oh my gosh, he would wake up and pray for me.
He would pray before we'd go to sleep. I mean,
we have to have those people that love us, that
know us, that we can call at any hour, that we
can tell anything to. We've got to have the people
that fight for us. I remember one of my friends
from Austin, she confessed one time to me that
she had been having feelings for another man.
And she told me that when the first time she
confessed it, that she never had feelings for
him again. He was married and she was married.
And she said, the second I said it out loud,
it was like it lost all its power. Guys, that
is what we're talking about. We're talking about
an enemy who knows that if he has us alone in
the dark, then he has us. But if we bring people
into it, we bring and invite people that love
Jesus into it, all of a sudden we have invited
the truth and the light into it. And no longer
are we alone with the devil. We have people fighting
for us. 1 John 1, 7 says this, but if we walk
in the light as he is in the light, we have fellowship
with one another and the blood of Jesus, his
son, cleanses us from all sin. If we walk in
the light, Christ is in the light. We have fellowship
with one another. It's where life happens in
the light. It happens in community. It happens
in local churches. It happens in small groups.
It happens in small Bible studies. This is what
we have to do. But the truth is most of us, even
if we have some of those things in place, we
aren't actually confessing our sin. And that's
a part of this, is we have to say it. When John's
talking here about the light, he's talking about
confession. He's saying you bring things to the
light. Don't hide them in the dark. And why do
we bring them to the light? 1 John 1, 7 says,
because the blood of Jesus, his son, it cleanses
us from all sin because he has power over the
sin and we experience that freedom. Now, I believe
my sin would have been forgiven if I'd never
brought it into confession and into the light,
but I don't believe I'd experience freedom on
earth. I don't believe I'd be reminded of that
forgiveness. I don't believe I'd be reminded
of the truth of God unless I brought people in.
And that's why we move to the light, not because
our salvation depends on it, but because our
freedom on this earth depends on it. That's how
it goes. We need people to fight for us. We need
people that are fierce and that are warriors
and that'll just get their hands dirty, like
fighting for us. When we say the lies that are
in our heads, they'll fight for us with the truth.
But we also have to be those friends. And if
any of you are wondering why you don't have those
people in your life, there's a lot of reasons
for that. There's a lot. Relationships are hard
and we usually quit them as soon as they get
hard. And the best ones have been through a lot
of hard. So we can't quit when it gets hard because
that's actually building the depth and the maturity
of a relationship. There's a lot of reasons that
we don't have deep, close friendships. But we
can always shift that in the best way to do it.
is to be that person first. So who can you fight
for today? I want you to call a friend, to text
a friend and say, let's go to coffee. And I want
you, rather than bringing your needs to the table,
even though some days that's obedience and vulnerable
and what needs to happen, I want you to fight
for them. I want you to tell them, make them
listen to this and say, listen, we're gonna do
this. I'm doing this for you. We're gonna go
to coffee for an hour and for an hour, you're
gonna talk about your mind and your anxious thoughts
and your worries. Now, let me tell you, certain
percentage of the time, it won't go well. It
won't. Like you'll tell that friend and they
won't know what to do with it. Maybe they've
never confessed in themselves. Maybe they have
their own issues. Who knows? And they'll backpedal
and they'll change the subject. Not your friend,
okay? Guess what? I know this is hard, but you
go try again. You don't give up. Why? Because
we cannot live without each other. And as you
fight for them, they're gonna see a new way to
be a friend. They're gonna see a new way for
freedom to unfold in their lives. And you know
what's cool is when someone does that for you,
you start to do it for them. So go first. This
is Living on the Edge with Chip Ingram, and we're
in the middle of our guest teacher Jenny Allen
series, Get Out of Your Head. Chip will join
us in studio in just a minute to share his application
for today's message, the antidote for noise and
isolation. Let me ask you, what drives your thought
life? What influences the way you think? Is it
anxiety, loneliness, insecurity? Whatever it
is, do you feel trapped by it? Like no matter
how hard you try, your mind drifts back to these
harmful patterns. In this series, author and
speaker Jenny Allen calls out seven toxic thoughts
that derail our connection to God. Discover the
powerful antidotes God's given us to break free
from these dangerous mindsets. Join Jenny to
learn what you can do to fight and win the war
for your mind. And if you're wanting to do a
deeper study on this topic, let me encourage
you to get Jenny's book, Get Out of Your Head.
For complete details, go to livingontheedge .org
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tap special offers. Well, Chip's joined me in
studio now. And Chip, Jenny ended her message
today by talking about fighting for those in
our lives who are important to us. And as you
meet people around the country, who and what
are people fighting for in these challenging
times? As I travel around the United States and
speak at churches, college campuses, pastors'
conferences, military personnel, there is one
theme that just keeps coming out. It doesn't
matter where I speak or who I'm with. It's the
family, it's communication, and it's relationships.
Now, here's the thing. There's a lot that goes
into building a strong family. Great communication
and doing that for different groups is certainly
a challenge. But that's why we're committed to
continuing to teach the Bible regularly, practically,
and relevantly. We're committed to develop group
resources and online courses that help people
personally apply the truth to their life. And
we're committed to having fun with families and
creating tools that allow families to get together
and enjoy one another and share their hearts.
Each one of those has their place. And here's
what I would ask you. Would you be willing to
help us create these and then get them in the
hands of families all across America? It takes
resources. And I'm so grateful for those of you
that pray and partner with us financially. And
I want to thank you first. And second, if you
don't partner with us financially now, would
you consider partnering financially and helping
us do what families desperately need? Thanks
so much for praying about it and then doing whatever
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tap donate. Well, with that, let's get to Chip's
application for this message. As we close today's
program, let's pause for a moment. I heard Jenny,
as she wrapped up her teaching, literally plea
with us. I mean, plea with us to say, fight for
that person. Care for that person. Interject
your life. Ask them to go for coffee. Text them
today. Give them a call today. I mean, who is
that person that you know that needs a friend?
Or who is that person that you know? You've had
a relationship, but you both got busy, you both
got sidetracked, and you really need to be together.
As she was speaking, I just thought of how easy
it is to let work or distractions or discouragement
or binging on a Netflix series or to fill our
lives with so many other things when what I heard
and what's so true is we need each other. For
me personally, I've had to structure that in
my life. You know, left to myself. I love to
work. You know, I've got four grown kids. I've
got 12 grandkids. I can end up doing a lot of
really good things. I can feel responsible. I
do this. I do that right. But I need some people
in my life that are just for me. I've got a couple
friends like that. And sometimes they initiate.
And in more recent times, I've initiated. I had
one friend who was a friend of friends. I mean,
he would text me at 6 a .m. and say, let's get
coffee because I could tell, man, you were sort
of funky and you really need to sit down and
talk to someone. I mean, this is the way he talked
to me. And he was a quarterback at Boise years
ago. And he'd say, come on, bro, let's get together.
And they'd say, you're working too much. Let's
go play golf. And other times it would be, man,
I'm so sorry. I know you had to bury that guy
that died early and counsel his family. You must
be really struggling. All I want you to know
is who is that person in your life and are you
that person in someone else's life? What I heard
Jenny saying is this is more than I'm in a Bible
study or I meet with some people now and then
or I have some light conversation. This is about
getting connected from the heart, being real,
being honest, speaking the truth in love, bearing
one another's burdens. Proverbs 13, 20, I shared
over and over with my kids growing up. He who
dwells with wise men will be wise, but the companion
of a fool will suffer harm. And if you really
want to know what your life is going to look
like in three to five to seven years, all I have
to ask you is show me your friends. I'll show
you your future. And sometimes our friends end
up being ones we just play with, or sometimes
they're ones we just work with. And of all the
things that you need to make sure you do is for
those of us that are married, we need to make
sure that we're making deep friendship a big
part of the connection. And that means you go
on dates, and that means you take walks. And,
you know, my wife just said, you know, we haven't
read out loud together in a long time. Why don't
we do that? We just started working out together
a couple times a week, and it's been fun. It's
been great. Now let me ask you. Who needs a text
from you today? Who needs a call that says this
week, not later, not someday, we're going to
get coffee or a dinner or a lunch? Okay, you
ready? Go connect with someone. They'll love
it, and you and me need it. That's a great reminder,
Chip. And let me say, here at Living on the Edge,
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We'll listen to next time as our guest teacher,
Jenny Allen, picks up in her series, Get Out
of Your Head. Until then, this is Dave Drewy
saying thanks for joining us for this edition
of Living on the Edge.