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Did you know that God has two amazing gifts for

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you? I mean, gifts that we rarely think about

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or even consider as gifts. But when you think

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and hear and ponder and digest these two gifts,

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it absolutely changes your perspective and gives

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you the power to live with joy, even in the midst

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of great adversity. Stay with me. Thank you for

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being with us for this edition of Living on the

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Edge with Chip Ingram. Chip serves as our Bible

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teacher for this global teaching and discipleship

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ministry, helping Christians develop an authentic

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faith. Today, we're wrapping up our series, I

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Choose Joy. For the past several programs, we've

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explored God's desire for us to experience authentic

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joy, even through the most demanding and frustrating

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times of life. We hope you've been encouraged

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by this study in Philippians chapter 1. And to

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help others discover that same refreshment and

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strength, take a minute after this message and

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share it through the Chip Ingram app. Okay, here's

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Chip with the remainder of his talk, Understanding

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the Power of Expectations. He picks up on the

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last phrase of Philippians chapter 1, verse 27.

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Let's dive in. Contending for the faith, it's

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about our beliefs. It's about standing up for

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what we believe. It's battling, but winsomely,

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lovingly, you know, not angry, but it's saying

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that there's certain things that are true. I

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was praying this morning and I was thinking about

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this and I thought of, I get to do in one of

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the most progressive areas in all the United

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States with a group of people. that are willing

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to take a stand and do it lovingly, and then

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not only pair the truth, but pair the truth with

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acts of love and compassion and kindness. Let

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me just tell you something. We did something

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on Culture Shock that I actually taught here,

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and we talked about life, abortion, human sexuality,

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politics. What does the Bible actually say, and

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how do we stop bringing heat but bring light.

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And then you all gave me the opportunity to go

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around the country and take multiple pastors

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and churches to say, we're going to contend for

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the faith. Those are very unpopular things, but

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shared lovingly, life matters. God's not confused

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about men. He's not confused about women. He's

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not confused about marriage. And when we violate

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and when the culture pushes us where we shrink

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back, The consequences and the pain. I can't

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tell you how many people I've counseled out of

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the lifestyle, in the lifestyle that are suicidal

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and hurting and difficult. And there's all this

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stuff out there that says our rights and stuff

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like that. And I meet the people in the pain

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and the struggle. I had a guy just recently,

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just a month or so ago, and he waited until quite

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a while, a Saturday night service, and said,

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am I welcome here? I said, what do you mean?

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Of course you're welcome here. He goes, well,

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I'm gay. I said, now, is that a behavior or an

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identity? And he looked at me like, what do you

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mean? I said, we have people that have temptations

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for affairs, pornography, lying, stealing. This

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is a church filled with people that have all

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kind of issues. Gay is not your identity. There's

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absolutely zero. proof, scientific evidence that

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you're born this way. You have some sexual confusion

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and you're attracted to the same sex. We have

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people in our church that are highly attracted

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to the opposite sex and have lots of problems.

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So you are as welcome as all the other liars,

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affairs, fornicators, and cheaters that go to

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our church. But we're on a journey together.

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God will speak to you. He'll change your thinking

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and your life from the inside out, and you'll

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make progress, and you'll probably mess up some

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just like everyone else here. But to say that

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in many places around the country, you get fired

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or picketed. Everyone... Everyone believes certain

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things and are staking your life on it. And the

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more politically correct things are happening

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and the pressure comes, here's the last thing.

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Not only is our behavior, not only is our beliefs,

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but we've got to be bold. What's the last word?

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Don't give up. Second, don't give in. Churches

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all across America, Bible churches all across

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America, whole denominations are giving in and

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changing their doctrine. Well, you know, it's

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pretty unpopular to believe what Jesus actually

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said, so we're just going to change it on the

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most controversial issues of our day. But we're

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not going to give up, we're not going to give

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in, and we're not going to shrink back. This

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is about being bold. Here's a question I would

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ask all of you. Does everyone in a positive,

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winsome way know that you're a follower of Christ?

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Do they know it? Are you bold? I don't mean wearing

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it on your sleeve, you know, please don't put

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a praise the Lord sticker on the back of your

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car. It's not enough to say this is the truth.

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It's got to be the truth captured in love and

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demonstrated. Here's my question. How are you

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doing? This is normal Christianity. God expects

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us to not give up, not give in, not shrink back.

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You got it? At this point, You should be saying,

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maybe. No, that's what your body language tells

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me. Intellectually, I would say 98 % of all the

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people in this room say, you know, I don't have

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a whole lot. You know, Chip's a little hyper,

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but that's Chip. I don't have a whole lot that

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I would disagree with what he just said. But

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when he started playing it out of what it would

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look like in my life, I'm not so sure that I

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have a consistent conduct. I'm not so sure that

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I'm not more worried about being a citizen of

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the United States that is more comfortable and

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more happy and doesn't create waves than I am

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a kingdom citizen of God. That when I get and

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realize that this little thing that we call time

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is running out and I was made for this big thing

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called eternity. And when you live that kind

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of life, yeah, you'll probably have a little

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more pressure, a little bit more suffering, and

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a lot more joy, and a lot more love, and a lot

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more impact. And God will use you as a catalyst

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to transform your neighborhood, your coffee shop,

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your workplace, your sport team that you coach,

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and boldly. Yes, I'm a follower of Christ. We

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love people. Yes, we believe certain things that

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are unpopular in this day. Would you be willing

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to say, Lord, would you speak to me about, is

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my belief and my behavior telling the same story?

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And not sort of like I'm a terrible person at

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all, but just where the Lord would show you,

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and it might be your behavior. It might be your

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belief or your thinking, I need to check that

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out. Or maybe it's your boldness. And ask God

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to make you an agent of life and change. Because

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the world, right, is anyone concerned about what's

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going on other than me? I mean, there's a missile

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could be coming our way. There's division in

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this country. There's hatred like never before.

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And here's the deal. You are either a part of

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the solution or a part of the problem. There

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is no middle ground. Hiding in our cul -de -sacs,

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hoping that it won't affect us and we just want

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to unconsciously be upwardly mobile and everything

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work out for us and our family and our little

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world is not an option. It's just an illusion.

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Second, what can we expect from God? He says,

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for it has been granted to you on behalf of Christ,

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not only to believe on him, but also to suffer

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for him, since you're going through the same

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struggle you saw I had, and now hear that I still

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have. Interestingly, again, you can circle the

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word granted to you. It's pretty easy. It's in

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bold. It's literally, it means God has given

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you a privilege. You know the word grace, or

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some of you have named your daughters, you know,

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Kairos. That's the word grace. That's the root

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word. God has given you a precious grace gift,

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and there's a privilege into it, and there's

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a responsibility to it. And Paul's playing with

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these Philippians and reminding them, hey, citizen

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right of Philippi, privilege, responsibility.

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Now, here's the grace gift God's given you. privilege

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to believe. You can receive eternal life. He's

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changed your life. He's taken you out of the

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kingdom of darkness, placed you in the kingdom

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of light, sealed you with the Spirit, given you

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spiritual gifts, given you a purpose, given you

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a family of God, created a place forever and

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ever looking forward, and He's going to transform

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your life and make you more and more like Jesus

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so the world can see how much God loves them.

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It's an amazing grace gift to believe. So why

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don't you put a little box around believe? But

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he says, there's another gift. You've been given

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the gift to get to suffer. How many of you honestly,

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don't raise your hands, because it wouldn't mean

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to go. How many of you ever thought suffering

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is a gift from God? That's foreign to American

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Christians. Suffering is a gift from God? Yes.

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He said, He's given you a gift of suffering,

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and you're going through this same struggle,

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this conflict, this persecution. Some of it is

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from within, and some of it is from without.

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Paul is going to leave Timothy at Ephesus, young

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pastor. 2 Timothy 3 .12. Timothy, all those who

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desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will

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be persecuted. It's a promise. What's Paul doing?

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Setting expectations. You know, here's a young

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guy. I follow Jesus. I'm now a young pastor.

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What I'm going to do? I've sacrificed everything.

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It's going to be great, right? Well, you really

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live for God, you'll be persecuted. Or how about

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Jesus? How did he set expectations? The very

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last night, what did he say? Just think positive,

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guys. Just think positive. It's all going to

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be super duper. I'm going to heaven. I'll be

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back. We're going to mojo a little bit later

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together. What did he say? In the world, you'll

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have tribulation. You'll have troubles. But be

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of good cheer. I've overcome the world. In fact,

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I just read this morning, and I thought in light

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of the current events, it was the very last time

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Jesus was hanging out with his disciples, and

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he basically gave his sermon to the Pharisees.

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Pretty unpopular, whitewashed tombs, snakes,

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vipers. I think I underlined the word hypocrite

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seven or eight times. I mean, I'm a follower

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of Jesus, and he just alienated the entire establishment

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and all the power. Jesus was perhaps the most

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politically incorrect person who's ever walked

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the face of the earth. And in the midst of that,

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you're following him thinking, Whoa, and he's

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been talking about leaving, dying, raising from

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the dead, and they don't figure out what he's

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saying. And then he makes this crazy statement

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like, you see that temple? Destroy it. I'll rebuild

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it. I'm coming back. And the disciples took him

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aside privately and said, when will all this

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take place? And will there be a sign ahead of

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time to signal your return in the end of the

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world? Now, just listen to this. Don't let anyone

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mislead you. For many will come in my name saying

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I'm the Messiah. They'll lead many astray. Wars

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will break out near and far, but don't panic.

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Yes, things must come, but the end won't follow

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immediately. Nations and kingdoms will proclaim

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war against each other. There'll be famines,

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earthquakes in many parts of the world. But all

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this will only be the beginning or the birth

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pangs of the horrors to come. Then you'll be

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arrested and persecuted and killed. How's this

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for preparing the team for the next game? You're

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going to be arrested, persecuted, and killed.

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You know what's interesting? They were. But they

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didn't give up, they didn't give in, and they

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didn't shrink back. Why? Because they knew it

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was true. They experienced God's power. They

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leaned into the suffering. He said, many, though,

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will turn away from me and betray me and hate

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each other. Many false prophets will appear,

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and they'll lead many people astray. Sin will

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be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will

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grow cold. Sound familiar? But those who endure

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to the end will be saved, and the good news about

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the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole

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world so that all the nations will hear it. And

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then finally, the end will come. Now, I'm in

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no way a, I think Jesus is coming back tomorrow.

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Ah, the end's coming. The sky's falling. But

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what would have to be happening in the world?

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to tell us that it's close. Maybe more hurricanes?

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Bigger earthquakes? More wars? See, I think it's

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really interesting that we unconsciously think

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that some things that have happened in the past,

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they're going to happen probably someday, some

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way, but probably not in my lifetime. Really,

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Jesus goes on to say, it will be the same as

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in the day of Noah, where people were doing business,

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having parties, marrying, going about their life.

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All I want to say is it seems like the birth

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pangs are more intense now and we should have

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an urgency at a level that we haven't had. And

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we shouldn't be afraid about our job. We shouldn't

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be afraid about our money. We shouldn't be afraid

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about our reputation. We shouldn't be afraid.

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We should be bold. Because here's the deal. At

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some point in time, there's going to be things

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that are true and things that are untrue. And

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the one thing Jesus said is there is no gray.

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Anyone who's ashamed of me, I will be ashamed

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of them when I come with the angels, with my

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father. Paul said, I'm not ashamed of the gospel.

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Now the question is, are we willing to take that

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stand? You're listening to Living on the Edge

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with Chip Ingram. And he'll be right back to

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finish today's message. But quickly, if you're

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eager to do a deeper study of Philippians chapter

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one, check out Chip's newest book, I Choose Joy.

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Stick around after the teaching for all the details

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about how this resource can profoundly impact

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your life. But for now, here's Chip with the

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remainder of his talk. Before we wrap it up,

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I have talked about suffering and Peter in 1

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Peter 2, 20 and 21. You might jot that down.

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That's one you might. actually want to memorize.

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Because when Peter writes, Nero is, I mean, burning

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Christians and throwing them into the lions.

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And Peter's writing to the church. And he says,

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if you suffer for doing what's wrong, for being

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a crook, for doing evil things, what credit is

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that? But then he says, but if you suffer for

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doing what is right, being righteous, walking

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with God, making a difference, this finds favor

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with God. Are you ready for this? For you have

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been called to this purpose, to suffer. For Christ

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left you an example to follow. See, if we're

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trying to avoid suffering all the time, you will

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never become the man or a woman God designed

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you to be. You will never have the relationships,

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and you'll never have the impact. Jesus suffered.

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The apostles suffered. Now, here's the thing.

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Don't automatically think every time you're suffering

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that's because you're such a wonderful, committed,

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amazing follower of Jesus. Pretend we're on a

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highway together on this message, and I just

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park the car, and I say, there's a cul -de -sac.

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We're going to go over here just for a second,

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okay? Are you ready for a quick cul -de -sac?

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Here's the cul -de -sac. When you read Scripture,

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there's at least six. There may be more, but

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I know six specific reasons why we suffer. I'm

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not going to go through all these in detail,

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but here's what I want you to do. Maybe put a

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little box and then write this question. When

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you're going through a difficult time, ask God,

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why am I suffering? Why is this marriage like

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this? Why is this health like this? Why is this

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situation at work like this? Why am I having

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this problem with my son or daughter like this?

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Why am I so depressed right now? Okay? Just ask

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God. And what I'm going to say is, biblically,

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there's at least six possible reasons while you're

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suffering. And I've given you the passages so

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that you can do your own Bible study, but the

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first one is my sin. When I am angry, when I

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say things I shouldn't, when I do things that

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are wrong, when I'm rude to people, when I'm

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mean to one of my kids, when I lie or when I

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steal, and by the way, I've done all those things,

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there's consequences, right? Galatians 6, 7 and

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8 says, sowing and reaping. You sow things and

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you reap them. So sometimes I'm suffering because

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I was either stupid or evil. And we all do stupid

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things and we all do evil things. Second is other

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sin. 49 .1 in Psalms, David says, a friend betrayed

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me. Drunk driver goes left of center, hits a

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car, someone you love. God didn't make him do

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it. He got drunk. God didn't create robots. Sometimes

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we suffer because of other people's sins. Third

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is spiritual attack. You know, you get in God's

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word on a regular basis. You decide to be more

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bold. I'll just warn you, stuff will start happening.

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Job was the most righteous man. He didn't know

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what was going on. Ephesians 6 will describe

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what spiritual attack looks like and how to defend

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yourself. Fourth, it's a fallen world. People

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came to Jesus and said, the tower in Siloam,

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it fell and these people died. Hey, what's going

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on? And Jesus said, do you think that those who

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died are more sinful or unrighteous than others?

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I say no. In other words, concrete cracks, wood

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rots. In a fallen world, there's just certain

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things. It's a mystery. We can expect negative,

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difficult weather. It's not designed the way

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God wanted it. It's a fallen world. Fourth is

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spiritual discipline. God loves you so much,

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there are times, the velvet vice, Hebrews 12,

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he disciplines every son, he disciplines every

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daughter, and he'll get your attention in the

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way that makes sense to you. Some of us, apparently,

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it must be our health. I don't know anybody particular.

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ACL, back, ankle rebuilt, I could go on. Some,

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it's a relationship. But sometimes we're asking

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God, take it away, take it away, take it away.

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He's saying, look, I'm trying to get your attention

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because I love you, like we get our kids' attention,

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so that you can look upward and we can address

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this issue, this arrogant issue, this pride issue,

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this lust issue. We all have those things, don't

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we? And you have a father who wants to help you.

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And then finally, spiritual development. There's

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times where Paul's living the life like never

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before, making a huge difference in what happens.

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He gets this physical ailment that keeps him

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dependent so people could see the power isn't

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Paul, but it's God. And he says, I've learned

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to be content. I want to give you a summary about

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suffering, and then I want us to pray. Suffering

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is God's gift to accomplish his ultimate good

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in a fallen world. Is that crazy? Suffering is

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God's gift. When I suffer, it draws me nearer.

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When I suffer, I look up. When I suffer, I have

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compassion for other people. When I suffer, life's

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not all about me. When I suffer, I'm not so judgmental.

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When I suffer, I'm following in the footsteps

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of Jesus, who suffered so you could live and

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I could live. Johnny Erickson Tada, quoting her

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coach, said, God permits what he hates to accomplish

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what he loves. What a truth. Lord, you know the

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suffering in this room and you know the reasons.

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Lord, you know the world situation and the desperate,

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desperate need for regular, ordinary people like

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us to stand firm and to contend and to not shrink

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back. And yet we tell you that, God, we can't

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do that and we're afraid and we struggle. But

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Lord, you have told us that Christ in us is the

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hope of glory and that we can do all things through

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Jesus who gives us strength. I have a little

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moment with your heavenly father and ask him,

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Lord, help me see myself right now the way you

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do. Help me grasp how much you love me. Help

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me to be a person who stands firm, doesn't give

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up, doesn't give in. doesn't shrink back. Help

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me lean into my suffering and discover some of

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the whys. Change me and then use me to change

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others. You're listening to Living on the Edge

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with Chip Ingram. And the message you just heard,

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understanding the power of expectations, is from

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our series, I Choose Joy. Chip will join us in

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studio to share some insights from today's talk

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in just a minute. How do people know you're a

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Christian? What sets you apart and causes others

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to say, I want to be like them? Through Chip's

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study in Philippians chapter 1, he revealed the

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supernatural work of joy in a Christian's life

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and why it's so intriguing to those around us.

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We pray you learned how joy can affirm your purpose,

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energize your expectations, and renew your hope.

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Let me encourage you to go back and revisit any

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part of this series at livingontheedge .org or

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through the Chip Ingram app. Well, I'm joined

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in studio now by Chip. And Chip, you know, we've

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talked a lot recently about your newest book,

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I Choose Joy. And what many may not know is that

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this work came out of a challenging season of

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life. In fact, you're still wrestling with some

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of those circumstances right now. Would you be

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willing to open up about that with our listeners?

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Absolutely, Dave. I had really painful back issues

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for about three years that led to a major surgery.

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They put hardware in my back. Three years later,

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it broke above it and below it. It was another

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surgery. And I was sitting down with my wife,

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and it was a long journey. And I kept working

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and doing what God called me to do, and I tried

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to be upbeat. And she turned to me and she said,

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Chip, do you realize how negative you've become

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over the last few years? At first, I was defensive.

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No, no, no, no, no, I'm not. And she said, you've

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been an upbeat person most of all of our marriage

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of 40 plus years. And literally, you've just

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become negative. I heard that and I didn't like

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it, but I thought about it. And Dave, I have

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to tell you, she was 100 % right. I was so convicted.

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And then I was scheduled to teach Philippians

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1 at the Billy Graham Center like two months

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later. So I had to study that up and get ready.

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And it was out of that study and in my struggle

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was birthed, I choose joy. If you're hurting,

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if you feel like you've become a bit more negative

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or anxious or hope is sort of drifting away,

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let me encourage you. God's word is powerful.

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His spirit will work. You don't have to wait.

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I learned you can choose joy regardless of your

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circumstance. God bless you and keep pressing

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ahead. Good word, Chip. To get your copy of the

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new I Choose Joy book, visit livingontheedge

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.org or call us at 888 -333 -6003. I'm excited

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for all of you to experience the life -changing

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power of this work. Again, go to livingontheedge

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.org or call 888 -333 -6003 for complete details

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about the new book, I Choose Joy. App listeners

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tap special offers. Well, here again is Chip

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to close out our study of Philippians chapter

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one. As we close today's program and wrap up

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this entire series, we're ending on a note that's

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a bit unusual. I talked about two gifts. And

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of course, the first gift is the gift that we

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can believe. But I don't think most of us think

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of suffering as a gift. And I did a little Bible

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study for you because I think it's important

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because I think, one, we don't see suffering

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as a gift. And yet also, there are different

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causes for suffering. And the last thing I want

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to do is you're suffering because someone did

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a horrendously bad thing to you. And you think,

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oh, are you saying that people doing bad things

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is a gift from God? No, no, no, no, no. But I

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love what Johnny Erickson Tada writes when she

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says, God permits what he hates to accomplish

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what he loves. And here's what I'd like you to

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do. I want you to lean back right now. I want

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to give you the six reasons that suffering happens

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in a believer's life. And the first is that we

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sin. I do things that are wrong and I suffer.

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And the response is to confess and tell God I'm

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sorry. He forgives me. The second is other people

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sin against me. And in a fallen world, that's

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going to happen. That's not God's will. That's

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not what he wants. But it happens. But God will

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use it for good. Third is spiritual attack. You

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know, there's times where I'm suffering because

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I'm in the midst of a real spiritual battle.

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And so I need discernment to know what's going

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on and why am I suffering? Because I want to

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respond with the armor of God. Fourth is in a

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fallen world, there are just certain things that

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happen. You know, we talked about Luke 17 and

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this tower that fell. You know, wood rots, bridges

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rust. It's a fallen world. It doesn't mean anyone

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did anything bad or wrong. Fifth is spiritual

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discipline. There are times that you are so loved

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by God that he kind of brings that velvet vice

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of circumstance to get your attention, to realign

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your life and your heart so he can give you the

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best. And then finally, it's just spiritual development.

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There are certain aspects of becoming like Jesus

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that you just can't ever experience or develop

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apart from suffering. And so let me encourage

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you. This might be one where you want to go to

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the website, download the notes. I've put all

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that information there so that you could look

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at something visually. And when you're suffering

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or when someone who is hurting that you care

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about is suffering, you can kind of walk through

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these reasons. And begin to ask the Holy Spirit,

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Lord, I need to respond to suffering in different

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ways, but I need to discern why I'm suffering.

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God loves you. He's for you. It is a gift to

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suffer for doing what is right. Let's make sure

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that's why we're suffering. But we need insight

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from the Lord to know how to lean into the kind

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of suffering he allows in our life. Father, I

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pray and I ask it in the name of the Lord Jesus.

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that those listening to my voice at this very

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moment that are going through difficult times,

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that you, by your Spirit, will give them discernment

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about the cause of their suffering and their

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response in order that they might meet you, become

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more and more like your Son, and experience your

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joy even in the midst of pain. In Jesus' name,

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amen. Amen. Thanks for that encouragement, Chip.

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based in Philippians chapter 2. Until then, I'm

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Dave Drewy, thanking you for listening to this

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edition of Living on the Edge.
