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OK, welcome to the deep dive. This is where we

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insights, the things you really need to grasp,

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try and get straight to the heart of it without

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getting lost in the weeds. And today, our source

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material is... Wow, it's something else the parable

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of Enoch. It's complex deeply visionary. Oh,

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absolutely It gives the singular perspective

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on some huge topics divine judgment the spirit

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world the future cosmic order right how everything

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fits together from The heavens down to human

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actions exactly so our mission for this deep

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dive Let's unpack the key themes the characters

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those incredible sometimes frankly startling

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visions. We want to get to grips with its view

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on righteousness and judgment, the divine realm,

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all of it. It's not like a regular story, is

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it? It's Enoch describing these revelations he

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had. Precisely. And he starts by saying he received

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three specific parables, full of wisdom, he says,

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unlike anything seen before. Okay, so parable

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one. It just throws us right in doesn't it? What's

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the absolute first thing he sees he sees the

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congregation of the righteous appearing this

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gathering of the holy and Right alongside that

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judgment the expulsion of sinners from earth.

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It's a stark absolute separation from the get

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-go. Yeah, the text doesn't pull any punches

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about their fate. It's darkness for them, contrasted

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with light for the righteous. Pregrim, it even

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suggests, you know, it might have been better

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if they'd never been born. And it's a total flip

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of earthly status. How so? Well, it specifically

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calls out the kings and the mighty. Earthly power

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structures. They perish. They're handed over

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to the righteous and holy. Wow. And no appeals.

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No mercy at this point. None mentioned. Their

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life, it says, is just. at an end, it's the absoluteness

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that's striking, not just individuals, but targeting

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power itself. And amidst this, something surprising

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happens, a descent of elect and holy children

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from heaven. They come down to become one with

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the children of men. Okay, that's interesting.

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What could that mean? A different kind of interaction.

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It seems to foreshadow something, yeah. Oh. And

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while this is happening, Enoch himself gets these

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specific books. What kind of books? Books of

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zeal and wrath and books of disquiet and expulsion.

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So reinforcing that theme of judgment, the end

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of mercy for the condemned. And things shift

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for Enoch personally, right? He gets moved. Dramatically.

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Carried off by a whirlwind to the end of the

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heavens. And what he sees there, it's quite something.

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The dwelling places of the holy resting places

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of the righteous, what are they like? Places

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of peace, interaction. He sees the righteous

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there talking with righteous angels. And these

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angels, they have a job to do. A really significant

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one. The text says they are petitioning, interceding,

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praying for the children of men back on earth.

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Really? So not just hanging out in heaven, but

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actively involved with earth? Yes. And the result

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of this intercession is key. Because of it, righteousness

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flows like water and mercy, like dew upon the

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earth. Wow. And this state, it says, will be

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amongst them forever and ever. So this is constant

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connection facilitated by these angels. Okay,

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let's unpack that. This isn't just a static heaven.

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It's dynamic. Angels are bringing divine favor

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down to humanity. It suggests the cosmos with

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structure, roles. Heavenly beings aren't just

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bystanders. They're involved in sustaining righteousness

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and mercy on earth, at least for those aligned

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with God's order. And this is where a really

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crucial figure appears, isn't it? The elect one.

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Yes. Enoch sees him dwelling under the wings

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of the Lord of Spirits. He's defined by righteousness

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and faith. And the text says something important

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about his time, right? It makes a huge statement.

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Righteousness shall prevail in his days and the

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righteous and elect with him. Without number,

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countless. So his arrival isn't just incidental.

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It marks an era where righteousness actually

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wins out. How are the righteous with him described?

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Powerful imagery, strong as fiery lights, mouths

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full of blessing, always extolling God. And like

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the elect one, the righteousness never fails

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before God. It's a total purity, unwavering devotion.

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And Enoch himself reacts quite personally to

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this. Deeply. His spirit longs for it. He recognizes

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it as his destiny, his portion from God. He just

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bursts into praise for God eternal, all -knowing.

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He also sees this host, this group, that sleeks

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not angels. Seems like it. constantly praising

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God. And their praise includes that famous phrase,

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Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord of spirits. He filleth

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the earth with spirits. Highlighting God's holiness

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and presence everywhere. Right. Then he sees

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this countless multitude standing before God,

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just to share scale. And distinct from that multitude,

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on the four sides of God, four specific presences.

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Exactly. And an angel explains who they are and

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what they do. Okay, who are they? These sound

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important. They are Michael, Raphael, Gabriel,

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and Fanuel. And they're all Michael is the merciful

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and long -suffering. Raphael is set over diseases

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and wounds, Gabriel over all powers, and Faniel.

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He's over repentance and to hope for those inheriting

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eternal life. Wow. The text calls them the Four

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Angels of the Lord of Spirits. So not just names,

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they represent key aspects of how God interacts

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with the world. Mercy, healing, power, even the

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chance for repentance and eternal life. It's

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like a structured divine administration. Following

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that, Enoch gets shown secrets of the heavens

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more than just the assembly. Like what? How the

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heavenly kingdom is divided and significantly

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how human actions are weighed in a balance. So

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connecting heavenly mechanics to human accountability,

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he sees where people end up too. He does. the

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mansions for the elect and holy, but also how

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sinners are actively driven out, dragged off

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for punishment. The vision then shifts again,

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doesn't it? Yeah. To secrets of nature. Yes.

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Things we see every day, but shown from a divine

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control perspective. Lightning, thunder, winds

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how they're divided, directed, clouds due, the

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chambers for hail and mist. So even the weather

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isn't random, it's all part of this divine order.

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What about the sun and moon? He sees their chambers,

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their movements going out, coming back. The text

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stresses their precision, their stately orbit.

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They never leave it. And they keep faith with

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each other according to an oath that binds them.

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They move exactly as God commands. There's that

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striking detail, too. They give thanks and praise

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and rest not. And their Thanksgiving is their

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rest. What's that about? It frames the whole

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cosmos as being in constant worship just by functioning

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as ordered. Their movement is their praise. Changes

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how you think about rest, doesn't it? It does.

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And this order has direct consequences for Earth.

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Absolutely. The sun changes for blessing or curse.

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The moon's path is light for the righteous, darkness

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for sinners. God's separated light darkness,

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divided spirits, strengthens the righteous. And

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nothing, no angel or power can hinder God's judgment.

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There's a short allegory tucked in here, too,

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about wisdom. A poignant one. Wisdom came looking

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for a home among humans on earth, found unsuitable,

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and returned to the angels. But unrighteousness.

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Ah, unrighteousness did find a home, found those

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it wasn't even looking for apparently, and settled

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in easily like rain on thirsty ground. That paints

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a pretty bleak picture of humanity's openness

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to wisdom versus unrighteousness, doesn't it?

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It certainly suggests wisdom isn't readily embraced,

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while its opposite finds fertile ground. Enoch

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then sees other lights, stars. God calls them

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by name, they obey, they're weighed. Yeah, weighed

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by light, space, appearance. Angels measure their

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revolution, which produces lightning. And there's

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a meaning behind this, a parable. The angel explains,

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these stars represent the holy who dwell on the

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earth and believe in the name of the Lord of

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Spirits. Okay, connecting the cosmic to the faithful

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on earth. But then there's that odd detail. Some

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stars become lightnings. Yeah can't change back

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right a strange specific image and that's where

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the first parable ends so parable to The text

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says this one is Concerning those who deny the

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name of the dwelling of the holy ones in the

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Lord of Spirits Direct focus on the deniers and

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their fate pretty severe can't ascend to heaven

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can't even come to earth They're just preserved

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for suffering Tribulation the elect one is immediately

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central again sitting on the throne of glory,

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judging works. Yes, and it mentions innumerable

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rest places for the elect, and their souls actually

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grow stronger just by seeing the elect ones.

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And God will cause this elect one to dwell among

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those who call on his name. So, not just judgment.

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but a future dwelling. Seems so. And this future

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involves a huge transformation, cosmic level.

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How so? Heaven becomes an eternal blessing, eternal

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light. And the earth itself is transformed into

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a blessing. The elect will live on this transformed

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earth. But, and this is crucial sinners and evildoers.

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Cannots at foot on it. The separation from parable

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one becomes permanent reality in this final vision.

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So, total contrast. Peace for the righteous on

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a blessed earth. utter destruction for sinners

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from the earth. Then comes this really pivotal

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vision. Enoch sees the head of days, ancient

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white hair on a throne, and with him another

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being. Looks like a man, gracious countenance,

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like a holy angel. And Enoch asks the obvious

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question, who is this, this son of man? Why is

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he with the head of days? And the angel's answer

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is, well, it's foundational for this text. This

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is the son of man who hath righteousness. Right.

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with whom dwelleth righteousness, and who reveals

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all the treasures of that which is hidden. Veals

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hidden treasures. Okay. Because the Lord of spirits

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hath chosen him, and whose lot hath preeminence

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before the Lord of spirits in uprightness forever.

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Wow. Okay, hold on. This figure, looking like

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a man, The eternal head of days, he's called

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the Son of Man, defined by righteousness, a revealer

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chosen by God with preeminent status forever.

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That's huge. It is, and his power is immediately

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shown against earthly rulers. He'll raise them

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from their seats, loosen their reins, break their

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teeth. Humble them completely, shame them. Their

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end is darkness, worms. no hope of rising, specifically

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because they didn't extol God's name. And the

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text lists why they face this. They judge the

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stars of heaven. Remember, the stars are the

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holy on earth. All right, so they persecute the

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faithful. Exactly. They misuse the earth, their

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deeds are unrighteous, power based on riches,

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faith in idols, denying God, persecuting believers.

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So their judgment is tied directly to oppressing

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the righteous and rejecting God's order. And

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during this time, a powerful scene in heaven,

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the prayers and the blood of the persecuted righteous

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ascend to God. The blood cries out, essentially.

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Yes. And the holy ones in heaven join in, supplicating,

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praying, praising, thanking all on behalf of

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the righteous bloodshed, asking for judgment

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for an end to the suffering. So suffering on

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earth directly prompts action and unity in heaven.

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Right. Enoch sees the head of days on the throne,

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the books of the living opened, hosts all around,

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and the text notes the joy among the holy. Joy.

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Why joy? Because the required number of the righteous

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offered up has been met, their prayer is heard,

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and their blood will be required. Justice is

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coming. He also sees this inexhaustible fountain

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of righteousness there. surrounded by fountains

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of wisdom. Yes, and drinking from them fills

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you with wisdom, lets you dwell with the righteous.

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It's like the source of endless spiritual nourishment

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at the Divine Center. And then comes maybe the

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most startling claim in the whole book about

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the Son of Man. Yeah, this one is mind -bending.

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Wait, before creation? Chosen and hidden before

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the world began only revealed later to the elect.

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Okay, let's just pause there. He wasn't just

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planned for the end times. His identity, his

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name, existed in God's presence before anything

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physical was made. What does that do to his significance?

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It elevates him beyond history, doesn't it? Makes

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him fundamental to existence itself. Woven into

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the divine plan from eternity. Not an afterthought,

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but part of the original blueprint. Wow. Okay.

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And his role for the righteous. He's their staff

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so they don't fall. The light of the Gentiles.

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hope for the troubled heart and ultimately everyone

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on earth will fall down and worship him. Why

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are the righteous saved in his name? Because

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the text says they hated and despised this world,

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the world of unrighteousness, its works, its

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ways. Their salvation is tied to rejecting corruption

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and accepting him. The reaction of the kings

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and the mighty. It's described vividly, isn't

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it? Oh yeah, pure anguish. Faces fall, they know

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they can't save themselves, they're given over

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to the elect one, burn like straws, sink like

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lead, utterly consumed. No recovery. They fall

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and don't rise, specifically because they denied

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God and His anointed one. He uses that title

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here. It links Son of Man and anointed one right

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there, yes. The text reaffirms God's power, eternal

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glory. Unrighteousness vanishes, but the elect

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one's glory is eternal. And the spirits within

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the elect one are listed. Wisdom, insight, understanding,

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might, and the spirit of those who died in righteousness.

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He judges secrets. No lies before him. And for

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the holy intellect, light, glory, honor, turn

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towards them. A transformation. Right. Now the

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day of affliction, it holds evil for sinners,

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but victory for the righteous. Sinners witness

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this, maybe a last chance. But then there's that

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confusing bit. Yeah, that tension. No honor through

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God's name, yet saved through His name, God has

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compassion. But then, henceforth, I will have

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no mercy on them. It's tough to reconcile. It

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really is. It highlights the finality, even alongside

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hints of compassion, perhaps different groups

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or a process. Hard to say for sure from the text.

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Then resurrection, earth, shield, hell. Give

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back their dead. The elect one arises, chooses

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the righteous and holy. The day of salvation

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is nigh, imminent. He's seen on God's throne,

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wisdom pouring from his mouth, counsel given

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to him by God. glorified by God. And the cosmos

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reacts. Mountains leap like rams, hills skip,

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angels' faces light up, earth rejoices, the righteous

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finally dwell on it, walk on it. Then the vision

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shifts. Wagons, riders, winds from east -west,

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south, shaking the earth. Yeah, a display of

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power. And in response, everyone falls down,

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worships the Lord of Spirits, and that's the

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end of parable two. Okay, parable three. This

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one, the text says, is concerning the righteous

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and elect, starts right off declaring them blessed,

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glorious lot, unending life, peace. Their whole

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focus is seeking and finding righteousness. And

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the holy in heaven are seeking two secrets of

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righteousness, heritage of faith. These secrets

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become bright as the sun on earth, darkness gone,

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light forever. It revisits some cosmic secrets

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too, lightning, lights, judgments again. Yes,

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reinforcing the theme, how they judge for blessing

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or curse, thunder too. judgments on earth bringing

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well -being or curse, lights and lightning's

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flash for blessing, for satisfying needs. Enoch

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then shares a really personal, intense experience

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from his own life in year 500. He does. A mighty

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quaking, heaven of heavens, the angelic host,

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everyone profoundly shaken. He sees the head

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of days on the throne, angels righteous all around,

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and Enoch, he's overcome. Trembling fear. falls

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down. That he's helped. Michael sends another

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angel to raise him, restore his spirit. Michael

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then explains why everyone was so disquieted.

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Why was that? Because the time for mercy and

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long suffering is ending. The day of judgment

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is ready. For those who reject the law, deny

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judgment, take God's name in vain. It's a covenant

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for the elect, an inquisition for sinners. He

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mentions, punishment can even affect children

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with parents. He does, but adds, judgment still

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happens according to God's mercy and patience.

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Again, that complex balance. Then we get introduced

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to monsters. Leviathan and Behemoth. Two colossal

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figures. Leviathan, female, in the ocean abyss.

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Behemoth, male, in a specific wilderness, duodane.

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East of the garden, near where Enoch's grandfather

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was taken up. Okay. Created together, but separated.

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On the same day, yes. Enoch asks about their

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power, but the angel says that knowledge is hidden.

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But the angel does reveal more cosmic secrets,

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expanding on Parable One. Oh yeah. Heaven's height,

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depth, ends, foundation. Wind chambers divided,

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weighed, controlled by portals. Power of moon,

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starlight, star divisions. Thunder lightning

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inseparable, but divided by spirit. Treasury

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like sand, bridled. It's incredibly detailed.

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Spirit of the sea, frost, hail, snow, mist, dew.

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All have spirits or angels, chamber specific

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functions. Rain comes from chambers opened by

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angels, measured, nourishing the earth. All seen

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heading towards the Garden of the Righteous.

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It's showing God's hand in absolutely everything.

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What about the monsters, Leviathan and Behemoth?

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What's their ultimate fate? Prepared conformably

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to God's greatness and they shall feed, doesn't

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say much more. Part of the grand design it seems.

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Then Enoch sees angels with cords, flying north

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to measure something. Right. The angel explains

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they're bringing measures of the righteous and

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the ropes of the righteous to the righteous.

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Measures and ropes, what does that mean? So they

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can stay faithful, stay on God's name, the elect

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to one with the elect. These measures are given

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to faith, strength and righteousness. It sounds

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symbolic tools or guidance to remain steadfast.

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And these measures also reveal secrets, earth's

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depths, even those lost. Yes. Those destroyed

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in the desert by beasts, fish, they'll return

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and stay themselves on the day of the elect one.

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None destroyed before God, none can be destroyed.

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Suggests resurrection, restoration, even for

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the physically lost. Heavenly beings react. Commanded,

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united. One voice, one light. Blessing, extolling,

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lauding with wisdom, spirit of life. Cosmic harmony.

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The elect one is central again. On the throne,

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judging works weight and balance. God commands

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earthly rulers to recognize him. Spirit of righteousness

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poured on him. His word slays sinners. And when

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the kings and mighty see him stand up, recognize

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him on the throne. Righteousness is judged right

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there. No lying word. Pain seizes them like a

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woman in labor. Terrified, downcast, agony seeing

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the Son of Man. But their response is... Kind

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of ironic. They bless and glorify the hidden

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ruler. Exactly. The Son of Man, hidden from the

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beginning, preserved, now revealed. They see

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the elect standing there, and these kings fall

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down, worship, hope, even petition for mercy.

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Does it work? No. God presses them. They leave

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hastily, faces full of shame. darkness, delivered

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to angels for punishment, vengeance, specifically

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for oppressing God's children, the elect. And

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the righteous witness this. They rejoice. They

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rejoice over the punished, see God's wrath, the

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divine sword, grim, but part of the vision. Their

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own fate, the righteous and elect. Absolute salvation,

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saved, never see sinners again. God and the Son

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of Man live with them forever, eating, lying

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down, rising up, constant fellowship. They rise

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from earth, clothed in glory, life. Garments

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don't age, glory never fades. The mighty kings

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facing punishment, they make one last plea. They

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implore the angels of punishment for just a little

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respite. Time to worship God, confess their sins.

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They bless God, finally acknowledge his power,

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his secrets. And their confession is quite detailed.

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Very revealing. They wish for rest now to glorify,

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but fine none. Pursue it, don't get it. Light's

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gone, darkness is home. They admit they didn't

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believe or glorify God when they could, hoped

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in earthly power instead. They admit there's

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no salvation and suffering, no respite even for

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confession. Yes, they acknowledge God is true,

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just, impartial. They pass away because of their

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works, their sins, justly reckoned. Souls burdened

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by ill -gotten gains go down to shield. Their

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final state. dark faces, shame before the Son

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of Man driven out, sword remains before them.

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That's God's ordinance, God's judgment. Then

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the vision shifts one last time to other hidden

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forms. the fallen angels. The ones who descended

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revealed forbidden secrets seduced humans. Those

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ones. A list is given. Samjaza, Artequifah, Armen,

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Kokabel, Tarell, Rumjal, Dhanjal, Nukwel, Barakal,

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Azazel. He's also twice, Armaro's, Batarjal.

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Lots of them. Chiefs over groups. And specific

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bad actions are mentioned. Very specific. Jaqan

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led astray sons of God via human women. Esbiel

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gave evil counsel, defiled himself. Gadreel showed

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blows of dash, led astray Eve, showed humans,

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weapons, shields, swords, armor. Weapons now

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used against earth dwellers proceed from his

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hand. Wow. Penemy taught bitter and sweet, wisdom

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secrets, and writing. Incan paper yes, and the

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text says through this knowledge many sinned

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men weren't created for this like angels Death

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came through this knowledge and power because

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data showed wicked spirit demon stuff smiting

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embryos snake bites heatstroke That's quite a

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charge sheet is blaming specific evils warfare

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may be misused knowledge like writing even certain

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kinds of harm on these fallen angels corrupting

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humanity Exactly, it's an alternative origin

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story for certain kinds of sin and suffering

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tracing them back to this angelic fall and illicit

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sharing of knowledge and there is And this oath

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is cosmic. The text says it sustains creation.

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Heaven, earth on water, mountains, sea bounds,

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depths. The course of sun, moon, stars. It's

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in Michael's hand. It enforces order. Holds the

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fallen accountable. It's fundamental. Okay. And

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there was joy when the Son of Man's name was

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finally revealed. Great joy, yes. It was a key

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moment in this unfolding revelation. So the final

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act of the Son of Man in this parable. Sits on

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the throne. Judgment given to him, sinners, the

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fallen angels who led astray destroyed from earth,

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bound, imprisoned, their works vanish. And the

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final line is powerful. From now on, nothing

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corruptible. Because the Son of Man has appeared,

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taken his throne, evil passes away. His word

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is strong before God. Wow. Okay, that was...

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Quite the journey. Three parables packed with

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visions, judgment the head of days, the son of

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man, especially that pre -existence claim. Right,

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the different fates for righteous and wicked,

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the incredible detail on cosmic order, divine

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control. And those secrets, fallen angels forbidden

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knowledge, it's a lot to take in. It really provides

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this unique, highly detailed framework for understanding,

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well, one specific perspective on the end times,

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how the cosmos is run, where certain evils came

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from, and the ultimate stakes of it all. It really

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does. And thinking about those specifics, like

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the fallen angels teaching weapon making, writing,

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cosmetics. Yeah. How does this text make you

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think about knowledge itself? That's a great

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point. Is all knowledge good? Or can certain

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kinds maybe revealed properly or used wrongly

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actually be dangerous. This text seems to suggest

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the latter, tying specific knowledge directly

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to sin and death via those angels. Yeah, put

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the different spin on things. Or what about that

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repeated idea the Son of Man named chosen, hidden

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before creation? We said it makes him eternally

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significant. But what does it suggest about history?

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Is it just things happening? Or is it more like

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the slow unveiling of a reality that was already

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complete, already established with the Son of

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Man at its center before time even began? That's

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definitely something that you want. How does

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that pre -existence change how you view the whole

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cosmic drama unfolding in these parables? What

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does this deep dive spark for you? Good questions

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to leave us with. Thank you for going on this

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deep dive with us today. Always fascinating to

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unpack a text like this. Thanks for the conversation.
