Okay, we're live. Hey, Sylvan. How's it going,
man? Good. How are you? It's been a long time.
Yeah, it's been a long time. We better address
the elephant in the room. You know what my question
is going to be. What do you think it's going
to be? What? Why did you leave Tony and Misk
hanging when we had the live stream the other
day? Dude, I was insane. That's when I was...
Put in the psych ward. I don't think there could
be a better excuse for missing a formal occasion.
Yeah, that's actually the only excuse. What happened?
Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, I can talk
about that. I mean, man, it's a bunch of complicated
stuff that's gone down. Where do I even begin
with that whole thing? That's kind of a long
story, but yeah, I guess that's what I'm here
to tell. So I think it really it started when
I started talking to like a lot of senior software
engineer characters and a lot of people that
are like much older than me, much wiser than
me. And it's it took me up until sometime this
year to realize that most adults are like much
wiser than I am. And they've lived a lot of experience.
But for some reason, like I didn't I didn't fully
realize that until sometime this fall. And then
all at once, it just, like, all clicked. And
I came to, like, many realizations about the
world all at once. I was surrounded by a bunch
of very wise people. Like, a lot of people very
into Buddhism and meditation. And it's people
that, like, have been learning all their lives.
And so I just, like, I got very excited by that.
And I didn't do anything crazy when I was manic.
I didn't kill anyone. I didn't like do a crazy
amount of drugs or anything like that. I was
just like very excited and talking to a lot more
people than I usually talk to. Like I flipped
from being like an introvert to an extrovert
overnight. And I think that kind of alarmed a
lot of my friends and family, but it was like
a completely harmless thing. And they threw me
in the psych ward and I just like read for five
days. It was actually, it was the most productive
week I've had. in a long time so honestly i kind
of hope they send me back there oh yeah and how
how has it been now how have you been good i
mean i i still once in a while get like very
um very excited if i like i kind of went on like
a social engineering talking to people spree
where I just like talk to like tons and tons
of people in my audience and that can be kind
of mind -blowing there are some pretty interesting
characters out there really expanded my worldview
a lot so sometimes like when I talk to someone
particularly interesting I get a little bit like
that still but now it's like a pattern that I
can recognize and I don't really I don't go I
don't go that lunatic anymore Have you ever gotten
into the emotional roller coaster that you're
good one day? I left a comment in one of your
videos. I don't remember which one, but I don't
know, man. Some days I'm feeling great. Some
other days I realized that I am not going to
be as big as I thought I was going to be, you
know, when I was younger. And it's just, yeah,
fuck all this, you know, what's the purpose in
continuing and all that. and the next day you
feel great and then you go down have you felt
that yeah i've definitely felt that i think that's
it's it's pretty normal part of the human condition
i think you can kind of you can make it better
by not having like expectations and by being
meditative and stuff and people try to combat
behavior like that with faith i think in general
but i don't know it's kind of just part of being
a human it's like having huge expectations and
then reality is different and then i don't know
you recover from it yeah yeah crazy man now um
let's see let me let me start a poll let me see
if this works we have a few folks in chat okay
i'm gonna start a poll and let's see how many
of the people here no still then hold on Is that
a kid in the background? Where? Oh, you heard?
I thought I heard someone. Yeah. Oh, yeah. My
daughter. My daughter. I tell her, I'm going
to go on a call right now, so don't be playing
around and screaming. Yeah. Doesn't care. Of
course. Yeah. I added a poll here. If you guys
type a number, I think it works. Not exactly
sure. So who in the chat knows? chalamet or vimati
and i just type one in the chat oh yeah it works
so if they type one man i'm works i'm famous
okay yeah let's see let's see if that if the
poll works now um let's see okay you talked about
buddhism a moment ago What's up with that? Are
you fully into it, or you're thinking about it,
or what's going on? I'm a little bit into it.
I think I'm into more the practical benefits
of meditation, but maybe that's a little bit
of a weird thing to say. I don't know. If you
know Naval Ravikant, he has a take on Buddhism
that's like... rationalist Buddhism, I think,
which is, like, the scientific parts of Buddhism.
That kind of appeals to me, but, dude, I don't
know, honestly, like, I'm in kind of an existential
point in my life where I'm, like, I was, for
the first, like, 20 years of my life, like, very
kind of devoutly atheist, but now I don't know.
I'm not sure. Yeah. It's hard to say. So you're
into the kombucha and the kefir, yoga pants,
breathing techniques, mindfulness and all that
stuff. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I live in Vermont.
It's kind of what everyone is like. That's like
my mom. Oh, yeah. Perfectly described. Yeah.
So you're transitioning into that. Yeah, kind
of. Why? What made you? you know, think going
into that? Well, mindfulness just like, for me,
it's kind of like a productivity tool, which
I know is bad. Like everything is productivity.
It's always, always the capitalist grind to get
more work done. But like understanding your own
mind a little bit, I think is, is highly productive.
If you can see like certain, certain thought
patterns will occur again and again, like why,
why I don't want to work. This sucks. I don't
know. You can kind of get to predict your mind
a little bit, and I think that's a very powerful
tool to have. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not
fully into it, I guess. Did you go through a
phase in your life when you were looking at all
the different options, like spirituality -wise,
Buddhism? Surely you must have thought about
it all. There's nothing but time to think about
these questions. Yeah. I was raised Christian,
but I didn't find my... It wasn't what I was
looking for. I then found the Indian culture.
They talk about Krishna a lot. Just kind of similar
to Buddhism, you know, a little bit, you know.
So that's what I went to and that's what I try
to follow. I don't follow it perfectly. I try
to do meditation, you know, mindfulness, but
it's really difficult for me to commit to it
and actually do it. But I do know the benefits,
you know, I know that it's the only way out.
There's no other way, you know. Yeah, yeah. My
mind controls me 100 % and should be the other
way around. But I don't, but it's because I need
to meditate. I know for a fact that I need to
do it. And it's the only way, you know, that
I'm going to leave phone addiction, YouTube addiction.
I hate it. You know, how's that going, by the
way? YouTube, social media, all that stuff. How
do you feel about that? It's definitely not where
I want it to be. Yeah, just to be straight up
and frankly honest, I would rather I never watch
YouTube again, pretty much. It would be the dream
to just only read textbooks and just study perfectly
every day. But yeah, the reality is it's very
hard to disentangle yourself, even with meditation.
Meditation is not like a silver bullet, fix everything
immediately. It requires a lot of work itself.
Yeah. Do you watch a lot of YouTube? Not a ton
of YouTube, honestly. No, I think. I think the
bigger thing is like I talk to too many people
online and just like in like 20 different conversations.
Someone just texted me actually right now. That's
that's the bigger distraction. It's like discord.
And I didn't believe people saying that, but
it definitely is true. And I don't know. I'll
read YouTube comments a lot, too, like a lot
more than I should. And. It doesn't end up getting
me where I want to very much of the time. It's
interesting information, but it's not stuff I
really need to hear anymore. I noticed that you're
going to open a Discord channel. You mentioned
that today, right? Yeah. What's that about? There's
a test that you need to pass IQ over 140. What's
going on there? That's just to... You know the
stereotypical Discord culture of having a bunch
of... I don't want to stereotype anyone, but
furries, basically. Degenerate meme spamming.
I just wanted to make sure it's a serious community
where... I don't know. I'm not exactly sure what
the goal of it is, primarily. I think I just
want to pair program with people more often and
just improve my technical skills. So I think
it's going to be like... a pair programming hub.
There's a guy from my discord. Well, not from
my discord. He actually, he took like a bunch
of my viewers from my channel forum on GitHub
and like started a company just using them as
a workforce and the company is doing pretty well.
And yeah, so I might direct more people to go
and help him out with that or help other people
start their companies from there. There's a lot
of engineering talent kicking around in there.
Yeah, that is true. That is true. You just need
to find something to do with that. I did start
my Discord server, I don't know, some time ago.
But it does take a lot of time. It does take
a lot of time. A lot of people just join to ask
questions and just ask, ask, ask. And no, not
worth my time, to be honest, at all. Yeah, yeah.
I have a lot going on, so I just don't want to
add. So I don't know what to do with Discord
at this point. It's still there. Some people
still chat in there, but nah. It's tempting to
answer people, though. For some reason, it feels
very productive to answer questions. It feels,
yeah. When I started, I did, you know. And why?
For no reason. It's just a waste of time for
me. I was just answering, answering. Nah, wasting
my time. I realized that is not taking me anywhere
at all. So sorry, Discord. But yeah, it's still
active. Some people still comment there, but
it's not as active, not as active anymore. I
don't participate too much, at least anymore.
Yeah. Yeah. And what happened with your HR company?
Because you were trying to hire people and you
were going to become like an HR or something.
what happened i mean that's that's still somewhat
in the works that's somewhat what this discord
server is like i have a bunch of senior developers
in there too that i think just like to talk to
junior developers and um there are i don't know
there are a couple guys i was talking to about
hiring people but there's a lot that goes into
hiring people honestly and like i I really kind
of like to glorify other fields of study, but
I think like I'm an engineer at heart. I don't
know. I'd have to learn a lot about analyzing
people's skills. There's actually a lot more
that goes into that than meets the eye. And what
are you up to nowadays then? Like, okay, you
used to live with Jake, right? And you were in
the university. We're going to talk about that
too. What are you up to nowadays? You quit university,
right? I'm returning, I think. Someone in one
of the many phone calls I was talking to people
convinced me to return to university. But I don't
know. That's a whole question that I'm like wavering
on the fence about because my personal opinion
is that university is like 20 years or something
behind what what it should be it's it's kind
of gotten left behind what technology we use
um but there's another argument that you learn
a lot of like deep theoretical stuff there like
pure math and um stuff that's that's very important
for when you become like the next level of developer
like yeah they don't they don't teach you whatever
hot new javascript framework but eventually the
discrete math you learn from school will be very
valuable And I think I just wasn't taking full
advantage of my education. And I should have
been like going and talking to professors about
what research they were doing and really trying
to befriend them. Cause those wise old professors,
they know a lot about the world. Those guys can
tell you a lot of secrets. So yeah, that's what
I'm currently thinking. I'm, I'm returning to
school next semester to finish my math major.
I also, I don't know. I don't want to like, I
don't want to jump right into working for a company
yet. I think I want to build up my resources
a little bit more. So I can maybe work for my
own company eventually. And are you convinced
about university or your mom said, no, you're
going back to school? No, she, I mean, she'll
really let me do whatever I want. This other
random guy, this other random stranger I met
on the internet kind of convinced me, but. I
don't know, like half my friends, they drop out
like and I know some really smart people that
have dropped out. And then the other half that
are also really smart, say stay. But it's free
for me. It's like it's a little annoying, but
I think the benefits outweigh the costs slightly.
Yeah. Yeah. You don't have any responsibilities.
So, yeah, I finished university this year. Precisely.
It was five years. I'm 37, I think right now.
I just finished. Did you think? Yeah. 37, 38.
I don't remember. Somewhere around that. Really?
Yeah. I don't, I don't need it. I didn't need
to finish it, but I just finished it. Wait, do
you not know your birthday? What do you mean
37 or 38? Yeah. I don't remember. I don't remember
how old I am, but I think I'm 37. Yeah. 37. Okay.
I didn't need to finish university. I didn't
need to start it at 30. Two is when I started,
you know, but I said it's just another another
tool in the belt. It doesn't benefit me at all.
My employer doesn't care. You know, they don't
even know that I finished right now. They don't
care, you know, because I work as a network engineer.
What does the university have to do with that?
Yeah, you do get a few networking courses, but
it's just trash. You learn nothing there. Right.
But yeah. Could be useful in the future. In the
U .S., it could be different. It is definitely
different. You know, the level must be higher.
But I'm in a private university here. I pay like
$140, cheap university, a month. You know, $140
a month. Wow, yeah. Yeah, no. I just did it just
because, I don't know. So you can get the degree,
basically. That's it. Yeah. So you can. Yeah.
compete with other people in case they need to
in the future or something you know but and so
you're going back then for sure yeah yeah I am
I also to me it looks like the hiring landscape
is changing a lot just based on some of the some
of the kids that I've talked to are just so insanely
smart like I feel very behind and well I don't
know the there are a lot of bad engineers out
there and there are a lot of good engineers,
but I've met some people that are like, they
know like every programming language. They're
also insane at math and physics. And like, it
seems like, um, it seems like on average, the,
my generation is, is we've like stayed inside
so much consuming so much internet content that
there's some like really, really insanely good
14 year old programmers. And, Yeah, I think the
industry is in for some change. But are those
the exceptions, though? Like, does that happen
a lot? Do you meet a lot of people like that?
Or there's just a few kids like that? I think
you're right. There is something to that. I don't
think there's a ton of them, but I think software
and honestly a lot of the world is structured
in kind of like a power pyramid where you have
like... one person who's doing like a lot of
the work and then a lot of people doing like
not a lot of the work. Yeah. That's what it seems
like to me. Yes. It seems like intelligence and
knowledge is not really distributed like evenly.
It seems like there's a, there's like a pyramid
and some people know a lot more about the world
than others. Oh yeah. Yeah, for sure. Um, yeah.
In the last interview, well, For people that
don't know, this is the second time that Femati
is in the channel, right? And in the first interview,
we talked about drugs and we talked about ADHD.
We talked about Adderall. Your ideas change like
every week, every month. Where are we at right
now? Are we on Adderall? If not, what are your
thoughts on it? Um, I mean, right now I'm not
taking Adderall. I think Adderall is a funny
thing. And also I see some people kind of trolling
me in my comments. They're like, Oh bro, bro
took Adderall and then went to the psych ward
and then stopped. And now he's feeling burnt
out. People think I was pounding like a hundred
milligrams of Adderall a day. It was not, it
was not crazy serious like that. I was on, like,
the lowest allowed dose for ADHD. And I think,
honestly, what the science shows is that for
people with ADHD, on average, it's great. But
I think you can also totally function very well
without any medication at all. It's just the
people that do that are, like, weird. You know,
they're like the Neo -Vim, like, productivity
-maxing, mindfulness Buddhist people that, like,
will do anything. to be productive and the average
the average citizen is not like that so adderall
tends to work really well but i don't know i
consider like buddhism and mindfulness kind of
a replacement for it oh so you're fully into
it now right yeah did you become a vegetarian
yet not yet no no no any thoughts on becoming
Vegetarian, your Buddhist friends already talked
to you about that, I assume, right? I actually
haven't heard that yet, surprisingly. No? No.
Oh, okay. And thoughts on drugs now. And alcohol.
Alcohol completely off the table. I think alcohol
is just straight up useless. weed though is an
interesting one i haven't i haven't smoked any
weed since being insane just because it's you're
not supposed to but also it's i don't know i
don't think it's a very productive drug but i
have heard i heard something very interesting
recently about weed which is there's there's
like lots of patterns to the way the world works
and usually we're like focused in on one pattern
and for us it's like how our workflow is working
or whatever But apparently what weed does is
it takes down the filters that prevent you from
seeing the other patterns to the world, so a
bunch of things you didn't notice before will
jump out at you. It's kind of like a drug of
generalism, which I think is really interesting,
and maybe not totally useless. I mean, sometimes
it's great to notice some patterns to the world
that you didn't see before, but also... I don't
know. Weed has its side effects. Like if you're
just absorbing every pattern around you constantly,
I think it's hard to really remember all of that
at once. And I think that's what the memory effect
is. I don't know. This is like stoner pseudoscience.
Who told you about this science? Was it a pothead
or not? No, it was my dad. Okay. Okay. Okay.
I noticed in one of your videos that you had
some, what are those called, where you put the
cables in? What is that called? Like a synthesizer,
right? An analog one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What
is that? Is that your father's? Yeah. What is
he up to? Like, what does he do? Like, why does
he have that? Is he, what's this DJ called? The
one that wears like a mouse mask? Never mind.
Whatever. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He he used to be really
big into analog since. And now I think he's like
a professor. So he has a lot of his plate research
wise. He's like an ancient Greek professor. I
have really like weird parents. That's why it
turned out the way I did. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he's
a cool guy. What is that? Yeah. Did you see?
Do you hear something here? There's like a moth,
I think, flying around in here. What the hell?
Or is it a bat? I don't know. Let me know if
you see something. Your setup got a lot fancier
from last time. You got some nice lights there.
Oh, yeah. I have my lighting there in the back.
I have a lot of stuff going on. Let me show you
the phone setup. Where's my camera? Here's my
camera. Now you can just see the desk there.
I don't know. Do you hear that? I don't know
if that's you or me. Okay. Have you seen or have
you stared a pot smoker, you know, in their soul
through their eyes? Have you seen them directly
in the eyes and noticed that they're kind of
lost? They're kind of empty. People that smoke
pot a lot, they're empty. Have you ever noticed
that? You have to. Pay close attention, you know?
But have you ever noticed that or no? Have you
ever noticed that they're not going to tell you?
Because it happened to me, of course, you know?
And I was a big defender of marijuana because
I used to smoke a lot. But don't ask them, but
just pay attention. Notice if the people that
smoke weed around you are depressed. They're
going to act happy, you know, and hyped and all
that stuff. But you can tell. Have you ever noticed
that, Benny Chance, or no? I guess a little bit,
yeah. Yeah. I don't know a lot of huge stoners.
But maybe I'm just not good at paying attention
to it. Yeah, I don't know. Sometimes I see, especially
with the other, like, modern devices we have,
like, some people who will, like, smoke weed
and then scroll on Instagram reels, it's, like,
it's basically mind control at a certain point
if you're just, like, giving people a combination
of, like, the strongest weed we can bioengineer
and then the most addictive, like, video feed
possible. People just sit there for hours, like,
not learning anything and, like, well, their
neurons solidify into, like... pure exploitable
pleasure circuit it's like we live in pretty
dystopian times man it catches up with me like
every day how um i don't know things things are
getting creepy with all the ai and all the um
the super addictive social media like we're almost
in a surveillance state already yep yep sort
of and hold on I don't know. I saw a moth. I
don't know what the hell. Okay. Depression. Depression
and marijuana. They are directly correlated.
And I know this is not popular opinion. There's
a lot of people that smoke weed. That's like
something trendy at the moment. And a lot of
people that are going to hear this are going
to be the way that I was in the past and be like,
what is this guy talking about? Weed? Depression?
It has nothing to do with that. I can leave it
whenever I want. And if you remember, in the
last conversation we had, I told you, man, if
you haven't tried it, don't ever try it. And
I still, you know, feel the same way. Why? Because
you open paths in your brain that you should
open only in healthy ways through meditation,
right? But with weed, you access places in your
brain that you shouldn't. naturally right because
it expands right and you see the world god damn
it's magical and it's awesome and it's shiny
and it's bright and it's beautiful right yeah
and um when you don't have that anymore you look
for it and i remember that's what i that that's
what happened to me you know i kept going after
it you know the next high I hope that this high
is as good as the first high and it's never going
to be as good as the first one. Right. And you're
always searching for it again and again and again
and again. And you lie to yourself and you say
to yourself, no, I can quit whenever I want to
know. It is. Yeah. It's really difficult. And
when you drop and the world is pale, it's gray.
It's not bright anymore. It's depressing. uh
i don't know do you have any thoughts on that
or no i never like smoked i don't i don't think
enough weed to experience um well i i guess i
get what you're saying i i feel i felt that difference
before like when i was like right before i went
into the psych where when i was very manic um
i don't know there's like a sense the whole world
kind of opens up and Like you can see all the
beautiful complexity to it and you could see
that you could go and understand anything you
want if you just spend enough time. But then
on the flip side, like as soon as that feeling
is gone, it feels like everything is like kind
of meaningless and it's all just like randomly
put there. And you already taste it. You can't
understand it. And you already taste it. That's
a priority. And it's like, man, I know how that
feels, you know, how that elevated, you know.
Yeah. You know, being feels. And now I'm down
here just like a normal person. And I don't like
this. I just want to go up again. I want to feel
good again. And I don't know. It did affect me
pretty heavily with depression. Marijuana directly
affected me. I didn't have depression before
marijuana. But after doing marijuana. Daily for,
I don't know, a year, you know, chronically smoking
every day more than once a day for over a year.
And I never had suicidal thoughts until then.
So now it's it's not something that I that I
recommend or that I. Yeah. I think also like
our. we're both kind of a similar type of person
where we're, we have like this relentless curiosity,
which makes us very, very addicted, easy to get
addicted to things. Exactly. Exactly. Yep. Just
a few days ago, I was feeling like shit, man,
to be honest with you. I was like, I talked to
my wife and I told her, I always talk to her,
you know, I always go to her and tell her how
I feel. And I was like, what's the meaning of
life? Why am I doing all this? Like, what am
I going to achieve? I'm addicted to YouTube and
I don't like it. I hate it. The YouTube analytics
app, I uninstalled it for like the fourth time
and it's uninstalled now. But I felt like...
There was no way out. And I don't do drugs. I'm
not telling you that I was feeling depressed
or something like that. But I was like, you know,
thinking, what's the point of all this, you know?
And the answer was, it's just within me. I have
to do work. I have to meditate. I have to control
my brain. I have to do physical activity. I don't
want to do it, but there's no other way around.
There's shortcuts. I could smoke. Or I could
eat a brownie. Or I could, you know, take some
acid or something. And it's just going to relieve
me momentarily, you know. But, no, no. Yeah,
there are no shortcuts. No real shortcuts. They
always have some trade -off to them. Yeah, yeah.
We want to hack our way around. And what did
your parents... Think about the first interview.
Did they watch it or no? I think my dad did.
He kind of watches everything I do. Oh yeah?
He's stalking you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless
it's like really technical content. Oh no, he's
not into it. Okay. And did you watch Beautiful
Boy or no? You haven't watched it yet. I haven't
yet. No, I haven't. I'm not a big movie watcher.
My attention span is too low. Yeah, TikTok. No,
I don't know. Well, that's not true. I read a
lot. I'm also cheap AF. I have no streaming services.
I could pirate it, but then it's sometimes choppy,
so I want to pre -download it, but then I never
remember to do that. uh i don't know it's too
much work dude yeah i get it i get it now yeah
uh something that i think a lot very often yeah
something that i that i think about very often
is linux and um if i should switch to linux or
not is your audience mainly linux have you run
a poll in your youtube channel to see what your
audience uses i have yeah i think it's i think
it's a good chunk linux but it doesn't really
align with my goals right now i just want to
finish this board game at all costs operating
system switch would like i don't know i think
it is cool though uh -huh but Honestly, it depends
on what you want to do. If you're a network person
or an OS person, it makes a lot of sense, but
then some of the best programmers just use Windows.
Jonathan Blow and Casey Muratori, both are just
on Windows. Yeah. Jonathan, because he's a game
developer, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, my audience
is mainly Linux and they keep telling me all
the time that you should switch to Linux. I've
been thinking about it, but I'm like, I'm not
going to switch. Sorry, audience, but I don't
see the point, to be honest. And I don't know
what's going on because I'm a macOS user and
a lot of Linux users like to come to my channel.
Pretty cool people, by the way, you know, the
Linux community, at least on the YouTube side.
Pretty cool, all of them. They like coming to
my channel. We talk about Linux and all that
stuff. And I'm trying to gather information.
And I ask them, okay, so which one should I choose?
Should I go to Debian? Should I go to Arch? Which
window manager should I use? And I have way too
many options. And then I watch other videos.
There's a guy that is going to switch away from
Arch today. I was watching the video earlier
today. And he's going back to... Mac or Windows?
I think he's going to go Mac. If he was on Linux,
it doesn't make sense to go back to Windows because
you're used to Unix, right? But I don't know,
man. I don't know. I have thought about it, but
I do video a lot. All of this is done in the
Mac, you know, and I use the phone a lot as well,
connected to the Mac. Yeah, that's a great point.
I forgot about that. For video production, Mac
is really... Heart to beat. Yeah. And it sounds
cliche and it sounds like these two guys, what
are they talking about? But, you know, OBS works
flawlessly. I have never had issues in OBS, not
even once in one of the videos that are recorded.
And I have like, I don't know, over 200 videos.
DaVinci, I have never had a single issue in DaVinci.
It has always worked right. Audio. Never had
any issues. Camera, never had any issues. So,
I don't know, man. Get Tony in the chat. Oh,
we have Tony in the chat. We also have a super
chat. Hold on. Let me see. What are these guys
talking about? If they don't pay, I just ignore
them, you know? Just VIP people, I'm going to
read the comments. We have to. Yeah. Let's see.
50 Cent paraphrased, depression is a luxury on
first world centuries. What are your thoughts
on that? Yeah, I guess if you have the money
and housing and everything covered, then it's
time to be depressed. Yeah, depression is a luxury
in first world countries. I'm in a third world
country and I was depressed, but I didn't have
a lot of responsibilities back then. Yeah, I
didn't have. Now I cannot afford to be depressed
as SBG -X is mentioning. I cannot just. That's
brutal. Yeah, I cannot smoke weed. The entire
day, my daughter watching me and me not working
because I used to lose a lot of works back then.
You know, I was in a work for like, what, a week,
a month. And I used to jump to another job. I
was a complete mess. So having a family is just,
yeah, I cannot afford to do that. But let's see,
Tony. for a company in your country or is it
like remote work somewhere else? No, it is remote
work. Yeah, that's the thing, you know, university
could be useful if I would work for a company
in my country. But I don't like that, you know,
because the salary is not good. If I work for
a company here, all of the other people that
studied with me, they work for local companies
and they need, you know, the degree. Because
it's going to help them in their jobs. But the
salary is not good. So I have always worked for
companies in the U .S. So right now I work for
a company in the U .S. as a contractor. So if
the U .S. economy goes to the shit with Trump
and all that, If he puts in a law and he does
not allow, you know, external workers or something
like that, I would have to find a local job.
But that's where the university degree would
come in handy. My experience, of course. But
yeah, I don't work for a local company. Not a
good option here. Not at all. What's the political
situation like? Here? Yeah. What do you mean?
In the US right now, it's pretty laughably bad.
Is it comparable? Oh, in my country? The president,
if it's doing stupid shit like that, is that
what you're asking? Is the president as funny?
Is he also trying to start a civil war? Nah,
he's just trying to steal. Here, they just steal.
It's four years that they are in the power, right?
And then they switch. So they just come, they
steal, and they disappear. Another one comes
in, promises a lot of shit, does the same thing,
and the cycle starts over and over. But they
just don't affect. They don't do anything good.
They just steal. So, nah. I don't care about
politics here, my country at all. I don't care
about politics at all, to be honest. What about
you? Probably the wise choice. Yeah, I try not
to either. It's just like. Yeah, I honestly think
the American branch of politics just exists to
like enrage people. I don't even think it's like
particularly relevant. I think like the real
power struggle is going on behind the scenes.
Yeah. Those people don't actually like to be
seen. Yeah. Do you think it is a democracy? Do
you think you actually choose your leaders? No.
No, right? It's just something symbolic, right?
But, yeah. You gotta hope. But, yeah. But you're
giving the illusion that it's a democracy and
that you can choose your leaders, but... You
know, it's not, you know, smart people know that
it's not and it's not going to make a difference.
So I just don't get involved with that at all.
So. Yeah, it's basically I would say it's not
a democracy until they make it so bad that people
like riot. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I do think
you're kind of wise to not really be involved.
It's such a it's such a mess. It's just like
power. power play beyond your comprehensions
and it just knows what the people behind the
scenes are doing and it just creates more division
right left right and we're opposites and we fight
each other and nah man it's like religion is
the same thing as religion and it's the same
thing as soccer here in my country you know soccer
just there's a lot of fans of soccer So you take
sides. It's the same as Linux or Mac OS, you
know, and we have to fight each other, man. Just
we have another super chat here. Let's see. Yeah.
Again, SBGX, stay in the stable OS that you're
comfortable with. I'm happy you agree with the
50 cent quote. Appreciate the super chat, man.
Yeah. So. That's on Linux then. That's on Linux.
You don't see it as a viable option as of now?
I see it as a viable option, I think. But are
you going to do it out of pressure? Because your
audience is telling you or are you like, no,
I really... Do you feel like a corporate Apple
rat using Mac OS? Do you feel dirty? Do you feel
like you should switch to something open source
and that belongs to the people? I feel like that
more and more as I'm surrounded by all these
people who are very pro privacy and stuff. But
honestly, I don't know. You know, the story with
Apple is like you can directly see that it's
spyware. Steve Wozniak worked at a company. I
forget the name of it, but it was a military
company. It was completely funded by the U .S.
military. He came up with the idea for the personal
computer, and he actually offered that company
the rights to it, but they turned it down. They
said, no, go do this thing yourself. Go make
this piece of software yourself. It's a little
bit suspicious. Why would the U .S. military
not claim... responsibility for the production
of such a huge commercial success, but I think
it's kind of because they wanted to put their
spyware in it, which is a little bit conspiracy
theory, but I don't know. If the military was
like, here, guys, try all our computers, people
would be suspicious, but no, look, it's these
other visionary artist Apple people, not the
US military. Honestly, dude, I'm a YouTuber.
My privacy is gone. Who cares? But I agree with
a lot of the philosophy of Linux, to be honest.
But it's like someone telling me I should switch
to physics. It's like, yeah, that's a great field
to study. They're brilliant physicists, but that's
just not what I'm doing at the moment. Maybe
I'll study physics one day. Maybe it would be
cool to know that stuff, but it's just going
to take a bunch of time. That is a pretty good
analogy. And that's exactly the same way that
I feel because it has taken me so long to set
this up. And I'm like, God damn, I don't want
to do it at this point because I know myself
and I know that it's not just going to be like,
yeah, but the USB stick in install, whatever
this show. Call it a day. No. Roller coaster
is going to start at that point. And I will spend,
I don't know, like two, three, four, six months
setting it up. And I'm like, I don't want to
do it. But I use it on servers, though. You know,
all of my servers, of course. What other option
do you have? You know, Linux is the only. Well,
you have Windows servers, but you would be. Freaking
crazy. If you would use Windows servers, it makes
no sense. But at companies, they do. The company
that I work for, all of the servers are Windows.
So you still have to know it. But I don't know.
I don't feel like switching to Linux at this
point. Let's see. We have another chat here by
Tony. Tony says... Individuals that run the country
are all available on OpenSecrets. None of them
use Linux. What's OpenSecrets? Yeah, Tony, what's
OpenSecrets? Is it just me or do all the Linux
users secretly know who runs everything? They
all seem to be inside the power politics world.
Yeah. They like conspiracy theories. They like
to hack. They like to figure stuff out. Google
Open Secrets. I can type URLs in here. EN says
here, or just use both Mac and Linux. I use Mac
for work. My company gives me a Mac and I use
Linux on my personal PC. Ah, too much work for
me, man. Open Secrets. Let me see what Open Secrets
is. Open Secrets. The nation's premier research
and government. Man, Tony is just going to get
me in trouble, I think. What is this? This, Tony,
is this what you were talking about? Buy custom
data? What is this, man? You just assassinated
Tony. Now I'm going to be, you know, searched.
I think I'm already on the CIA watch list. Yeah?
They already suspect something. Maybe I'm just
turning into Terry Davis for the day. Yeah, man.
Yeah. yeah but i kind of think you're right it's
like why why even worry about it yeah there's
like 10 people that pull the strings behind everything
and yeah they're probably super evil but whatever
man like i can enjoy my vim config not really
hurting anyone yeah i don't know we'll maybe
end up in like a surveillance ai leave state
pretty soon but i don't know as long as i can
still use vim it'll be chill yeah what can you
do about it anyway right unless everyone organizes
and starts you know a revolution or something
but i don't even think that would make any difference
but i just live my life and i just try to do
the best i can and that's That's as far as I
go. I don't involve myself in politics at all.
Yeah. I just, I don't involve myself in politics
until it becomes like a global catastrophe. Like
do you, I'm not like a doomsday prep or anything,
but things these days seem pretty unstable. Like
the, um, like arch worse than arch. Uh -huh.
Uh -huh. Go on. I don't know, like, it could
just all be, like, agitprop, but the way I look
at it is, like, the U .S., someone is seriously
trying to destabilize things, because we've got
two different sides. Like, one is really educated,
and one is, like, just complete idiots, but the
idiots have been, like, manipulated into hating
the educated people, and the educated people
just can't reach. Well, that's a huge generalization,
but the left and right, they're trying to make
everyone fight against each other. They're squeezing
the economy like so hard that people can't afford
food. And it's like, it seems like, it seems
like a pretty bad situation. I don't know. I
don't know how long it'll be able to go on like
this. Yeah. President is straight up demented.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You have a point there. I don't
know. I don't know what's going to happen in
the future. I posted a question. I started a
poll right now for chat. All you have to do chat
to vote is type the number one or two, and that
is going to send the vote. Would you still follow
Vimati if he goes bald? What are you going to
do, Vimati? Are you going to shave your head
off? Or what are you going to do if you go bald?
I was thinking about it, but I don't know. I'd
rather switch to Emacs, I think. You think your
audience is still going to follow you? I think
so, yeah. It's just unfortunate that the nickname
doesn't work very well with Emacs. Huh? Oh, man.
And you're close to, what, 40 ,000 subscribers
right now, right? Let's see. 40 ,000 subs. Where's
your channel going? What are you going to do?
What are you going to do for the 40 ,000 sub
mark? I don't know. I said I was going to switch
to Emacs. I might. You can look at my polls,
my posts. I think there's one. We'll see what
people voted on. Switch to Emacs? Oh, I'm not
signed in here. You don't get to see. Okay. So,
but are you going to switch to it for reels or
just to test it out and then go back to any of
them? I don't know. There's a lot of people in
my community that use Emacs. Emacs maybe is like
the more serious. It's tough to say. Emacs is
like its own operating system, honestly. That's
what I've heard. It would be a big time investment,
but it could be worth it in the long run. I know
some serious Vim people over the years have switched
to Emacs. It seems like a lot of the really serious
programmers use Emacs. Might have to do it. I
have thought about it. I had an interview with
Prat. He showed around his org agenda and how
he uses the calendar and how he organizes his
tasks. And it's extremely useful. It seems, well,
yeah, it seems wonderful. Like if you want to
keep your daily notes, schedule your day, send
emails, receive emails from Emacs. Everything
that needs organization and that helps you, you
know, with that specifically, you know, organizing
your life seems like a big win in Emacs. And
I have thought about that as well. Using it specifically
for that, you know, the org agenda and I don't
know what the other stuff is called. But yeah,
it's a huge time investment, as you said. But
yeah, it seems like a great tool. But I don't
know. Would you? be using both of them emacs
any of them or staying on emacs only it's a good
question i'm honestly not sure probably only
emacs i don't actually know how like the code
editing side of emacs works though i think there's
like evil mode which gives you vim bindings but
yeah i don't know and i think the emacs like
configuration language is better than Lua. Like
Emacs Lisp I hear is a better experience. Yeah.
Everyone that talks about Lisp, they love it.
Even Gregory Anders, which is a NeoVim maintainer,
I had an interview with him and his NeoVim configuration
is done in Lisp. He uses, what is that thing
called that he uses? Uses... I don't remember.
But he configures his NeoVim in Lisp. And then
it's translated into Lua, I think. Fennel. Yeah,
Fennel. That's what he uses. Yep. And he's like
a huge NeoVim advocate, maintainer, and all that
stuff. So everyone that uses Lisp seem to love
it. I have no idea. I have never used it. So
maybe it's just awesome. Yeah. Do you do a lot
of programming in your configuration or do you
use Lua more for scripting? I don't do programming,
so Emacs would be ideal for me, I think. I mainly
do writing. I write more. I take notes and I
write more. Yeah. Configuration, just my Mac
config, my NeoVM config, Mac config, like .files
related or tools related. That's basically it.
Yeah. This other guy that is a writer, Dina,
I had an interview with him as well. He was a
huge NeoVM user. He completely switched from
NeoVM. to emacs and he was a knee of him con
you know he he did like three conferences and
new of him um in the past years yeah he switched
to emacs and he's a writer and he wrote his book
in emacs and he's in love with org mode and uh
i don't know probably you could use both right
emacs for organizing your life emails browsing
even probably in any of them if you need to do
something else programming right if you're well
you're a developer you're on your way to becoming
one so maybe using both of them not sure yeah
yeah I'm not either I think I have to kind of
check it out at some point it just seems like
the logical progression yeah but there's way
too many options like for example prod he told
me use vanilla emacs use it the way that it was
intended to be used so that means using the control
key a lot right so have you seen that they do
control c control e and then that's vanilla emacs
right you use the control key a lot there's other
people that say so if you're an eofm user go
evil mode it's gonna make it easier for you.
There's even configurations or setups specifically
designed for NeoVim users to switch from NeoVim
to Emacs. So the question is, which one should
you choose, right? Should you go vanilla and
learn it the right way, or should you go evil
mode since we're NeoVim users? I'm honestly not
sure. Maybe I should talk to one of the Emacs
experts and see. But I don't know. It seems like
there are a lot of experts who say different
things. So maybe I should just follow my heart.
And I don't know. Maybe I'll just read the entire
manual. See what it says. Yeah, because Prat
says one thing and he's an expert. He's an Emacs
maintainer. There's this other guy that uses
Emacs. What's his name? I have to interview him.
I already talked to him and we're going to do
an interview. What's his name? What's his name,
Chad? There's another Emacs guy that does live
streams on Fridays. He does live streams every
Friday. I don't know what he recommends. I'll
ask him, you know, I'll ask him and see what
he recommends for someone that is just starting
out. But it's just the same thing as with Linux.
The same thing that happens with Neovim, right?
What do you recommend for someone starting out
with Neovim? You personally, what would you tell
them? Would you tell them to use LazyVim? Would
you tell them to build their own config? Would
you tell them to use Kickstart? Same problem.
And a lot of options, a lot of opinions. What
do you do as a beginner? Yeah, I don't even really
know, to be honest. I used to be opinionated.
I used to be like, oh, you have to do minimal
configuration, only 50 lines. But then I've seen
some great maximalist configurations. I've seen
some people using remade distros very effectively.
I honestly, I don't know, man. I'm getting to
the stage in my developer career where I want
to be a farmer. It's also complicated. There's
so many ways to do everything. You're going to
speed around the developer part and just skip
right into farming, right? Oh, yeah. I'm already
like big on, big on. I'm going to get into Orthodox
Christianity and conspiracy theories next, I
think. Okay. It seems to be the logical way to
do things. Yeah. We all go through different
phases, man. Alcohol, you mentioned that it's
out of question. What made you realize that?
Or what made you change your mind about? alcohol
no it's it's just like lame like weed at least
like at least you get to like think about things
more deeply alcohol is just like i'm i'm now
like dumb and i'm like i don't know it's just
like poison that makes you dumber it is poison
it gets you intoxicated yeah yeah i don't weed
at least like has it has way more appeal to me
because it's like It's interesting the way that
your thoughts... It makes me feel not smarter,
but I'm thinking outside the box a little bit,
whereas alcohol, I'm just not thinking well.
Everything is blurred. But it's so good. It just
feels good. You feel like Superman, right? No,
not really. I just feel confused. Oh, really?
But you haven't gotten, I think you haven't gotten
used to it too much. Did you drink a lot or just
a little bit? No. Yeah. No, I didn't. I never
got super into alcohol. Oh, I did, man. And it
was amazing. It was the best thing that ever
happened to me. Actually, it was until it wasn't.
Yeah. Until it wasn't. But when it started, man,
it all feels. I remember Fridays, you know, because
it's like a valve, right? That just takes or
that you open and all the pressure goes out,
right? And you feel free, liberated. And yeah,
I did it for 10 years. I drank for 10 years.
Yeah. It was once a week. Then it progressed
and it became, I don't know, like three times
a week. Yeah, it wasn't cool at that point. I
wanted to stop, but I couldn't. You know, it's
really addictive. And me, my personality, like
we had the conversation in the last interview.
Remember I told you I'm an addictive person,
you know? So if I go into studying, I will go
full into studying. If I go into YouTube, I'm
in the freaking YouTube phase right now. And
I need to hack my way around that. I just need
to get done with that shit and move on to the
next one. I did study a lot in the past for networking.
Man, I spent years studying for that stuff. I
got a lot of certifications. And I did a lot
of stuff back then. But that's the way my personality
is. So I did alcohol. It was great. It was awesome.
But it destroyed me. Yeah. It's dangerous. Sounds
like you've had a very interesting life, I think.
I don't know. The people that do YouTube tend
to have very interesting lives because we'll
just try random things and go very deep into
them. Yeah. Pretty interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty
shitty. Yeah. But you learn a lot from all that,
you know? I wouldn't change it. It sounds cliche
as well, and I sound like a bitch, but... That's
the way it is, man. I wouldn't change any of
it, right? Have you heard that? Yeah, you must
have seen some very interesting things like going
into diving into a substance very deeply must
be an interesting experience to say the least.
Yeah, it's an experiment that I had to go through
to understand. I did get my PhD in alcohol and
in weed, you know, and I just practiced a lot,
you know, and I understand the game now. That's
the way I roll, you know, that's the way I roll.
And that's why I don't recommend it because I
did all of that effort for you guys so that you
don't fall in the same trap. Because we all fall,
especially if you are addictive, man, it is pretty
complicated. But you're in the right track, you
know. Your addictions, what are your addictions?
You want to learn to program. You want to do
your game. So you're focused on good stuff. You're
on the right track, man. At your age, I was already,
you know, alcohol and other drugs and completely,
you know, bad decisions. Yeah. Yeah. What were
you doing for work during that time period? Oh,
at that time, I used to work at call centers.
When you call any service in the US, a lot of
the call centers are here in Guatemala. Well,
they're in a lot of different places in the world.
You know, some of them are in India, Guatemala.
Our accent is not as fucked up. Sorry, Chad.
God damn, I'm going to get in trouble. But I
didn't say any countries, okay? So I'm good.
But I used to work in call centers. It's implied.
Oh, it's implied. God damn, I didn't say anything,
man. But I was in a lot of different call centers
and there's a lot of them here, right? If I would
lose my job, next day I could find another one
because there's a lot of accounts. I worked for
Time Warner Cable. I worked for Charter, which
is an internet company. What else? I worked for
Google because they had a Google account here
in one of the call centers. That one was tougher,
you know, because it was a little bit technical.
Yeah, it was technical. I worked for, God damn,
a lot of them. DirecTV, I used to sell. DirecTV.
What else? What's the name of that internet company?
Satellites. Well, it's an old satellite company.
They had a service as well. But I worked in a
lot of different accounts and call centers back
in the day. Like for those 10 years. Yeah. So
I would just jump from one to other, another,
another. And it was useful. I learned a lot.
But I was, you know, Dish Network. No, it's not
this. Hughes, Hughes Network, Hughes. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't think they exist anymore. But yeah, it
was Hughes Network. And yeah, that's what I did
for a long time until I got just tired of it
because it's not a fun thing to do. It's pretty
demanding. And customer service, man, it's painful.
It's difficult because people don't. I worked
for UPS as well. God damn, that was a nightmare,
man. UPS, man, packages lost. People don't call
happy to customer service. Yeah, I bet. They
call because they're upset. Right. Yeah, I decided,
no, I'm done with this shit. I got to do something.
So I started with networking and that's what
I focused on. That's what helped me, you know,
actually. Yeah. And so you just dove really deep
into studying networking? Yep, I did. I did.
For quite a few years, to be honest, like four
years. There's a company called Cisco. They have
an operating system, which is the one that runs
on their switches, firewalls, routers, right?
And that's what I focused on. I got a lot of
certifications from them, Juniper as well. And
that's what I'm doing right now. I don't like
doing that too much because I like more challenging
stuff. I then moved to a networking, no, a monitoring
engineer, you know, monitoring tools for companies.
They need to monitor infrastructure, websites,
all that stuff. That's what I used to do as well.
It's tough right now. It's tough out there. Maybe
for you it's not because you live in the U .S.
You're young, right? You have a lot of opportunities.
But for me in this specific country that I'm
in, I'm in Guatemala, it's hard to find something
at this point. There's a lot of unemployed people.
Or is there not? How is the situation there?
To me, it looks like there's a lot of unemployed
people. And honestly, I know a lot of the elite.
programmers who know who know like rust and zig
and they can rewrite an entire they can rewrite
the postgres code base from scratch but the problem
is that's not 99 of people like almost everyone
graduating from my university is like doesn't
even know react no the problem is the companies
they don't want they don't want guy who doesn't
know react they want someone who's like 100x
engineer and i really think The economy is squeezing
so much. They lay off people and everyone just
wants an engineer that can do the work of 50
other engineers. Exactly. Which is great for
the people that are willing to work. It's great
for people like me who will just stay inside
and watch YouTube tutorials about coding all
day. But if that's not you, then it's brutal
if you're not willing to. I don't know. I worry
about it, too. I don't especially worry about
getting a job, but so many of my friends... It
seems like it's a reasonable expectation to go
to college. You're in a bunch of debt, and then
you get a job afterwards. But unless you're an
ultra -nerd and you're willing to just put in
a ton of extra work on the side, it's tough out
there. Yeah. How is it going with your friends
there? Are they getting jobs? Well, they're not
done with university yet, right? Yeah, but I
know quite a lot of people. When I went through
the social engineering phase, I was like, how
many people can I get to know? I met a ton of
people. And I know at the college next to mine,
it's so bad. Only 10 % of graduating people got
it. Got a job or something. It's pretty bad,
honestly. The economy overall here. Yeah. Do
you think that they're laying off a lot of people,
right? Because they're doing a lot of layoffs.
So that means that a lot of skilled people is
going to be without a job. And when we're in
that situation and you need a job, you're going
to get hired at a different company at a lower
rate. What are you going to do? You don't have
an option but just to accept. So are they trying
to lower the salaries for engineers, right? It
used to be, let's say, 150K a year, something
not well paid. But now it's going down to 80.
Why? Because people out of necessity are going
to accept it. Do you think that could be a possibility?
I think so, absolutely. I honestly think there
are too many people. who are doing engineering
because they hear the stories of getting a good
salary. And if you're not 100 % committed, it's
kind of going back to what it was in the old
days where it was like only really, really committed
people would do software engineering. There's
just a lot that goes into it. Yeah. Is it an
oversaturated market, maybe software engineering
right now, especially with AI? AI is not going
to solve all your problems. It's not going to
do everything for you, right? But if used correctly
by one of those 10x engineers, it's going to
accelerate them into doing stuff faster, right?
So if it took them, I don't know, five days to
do something, it's going to take them one day.
So I don't know. What are your thoughts on that,
on AI? software development market oversaturated
at the moment? I think it is, but honestly, I'm
just a random kid who's like a math major. I'm
not super qualified to talk about this software
job market. It's just my opinion based on what
I've seen locally. But AI is an interesting one.
I personally, damn, dude, my hair is such a...
There's such a thing to get under control. Flexing,
hair flexing, uh -huh. AI though, like... What's
up with the angel look? What's up with the glow?
What's that? Did you put grease on the camera
or what's that? No, my camera's just low quality.
No, that's BS. Maybe it's greasy, I don't know.
You have a crystal in there, right? Is that better?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what's up with that angel,
like, fractal look? I just never cleaned the
camera. I thought that was just my camera being
low quality. Oh, okay. So, I'm sorry I interrupted
you. You were going to say something. Oh, on
AI, yeah. I don't know. I know some people are
using it very effectively for learning as a personal
teacher, but I don't know, man. I don't have
a great opinion on AI, to be honest. I don't
think it's great for programming. My friend who's
trying to start a business, he said, I'm making
so much money vibe coding all this Next .js,
and I said, that's going to come back to bite
you. you don't know what you're doing with that
vibe coding and he was like nah and then he came
back to me a month later and he was like yeah
you're absolutely right everything's falling
apart this doesn't scale well currently but dude
i don't i don't know they build they're building
all these huge data centers it's really it's
hard to say yeah Yeah, it's crazy. I find it
useful when I know what I'm doing. If I don't
remember something like networking, for example,
right? And I just need to be refreshed and I
don't want to go into my notes and I don't want
to go into Google and into Cisco's documentation
to find what I'm looking for. I can ask for a
command, let's say, and it gives it back. And
I'm like, yep, that's what I'm looking for. So
it's like a Google in steroids. It's useful for
way other stuff, but it's dumb at times. It's
a tool. You just have to know how to use it,
I guess. And it's going to, you know, depending
on how it feels that day, it's going to give
you good or bad results. But, you know, at the
end of the day, it's just a tool, right? An additional
tool. I think I lost you for a second. There.
No. There we go. Yeah. Okay. I lost you for a
second. Yeah. Now we had a comment in chat. Let's
see what chat is saying. Hold on. It's chat.
We lost you. What did you lose? Did you lose
me or did you lose Sylvan? Can you listen to
us right now, Ian? Can you listen to me, Sylvan?
No? Yes, I can hear you. Can you hear me? Yep,
I can hear you. Yeah. Yeah, you can hear me?
Someone said very interestingly, we value the
machines by millions of times more than the people
if you look at the stock market. That's very
true. No, it's not. Hold on, I lost you for a
second, Silvan. You were saying about this, we
value the machines by billions of times more
than people. That is pretty true. Yeah. What
did you say about that? I was just agreeing with
it. I didn't really have much to add. Okay. Let's
see. I have a question for you, Joshua Blaze.
No, it's not Joshua Blaze. It was someone else.
Let's see. What do I have here? You end up doing
both, like Coke and alcohol. I did that a lot,
man. I did that a lot. Oh. And not only... Really?
Yeah. Not only... Oh, what happened? Did I do
something with this guy? I hope I didn't. How
can I go back here? God damn it. But I have...
I have a question for you, Sylvan. Let me see.
Are you supposed to be like your channel? It's
like using computers as fast as possible. Complete
doomer moment. I don't know how to go back there,
man. Let me see. Let me refresh the chat. Hold
on. Oh, there we go. I'm starting to feel like
my father. Let's see. Did I block that guy? Was
it sweet? Is it sweet? And you still type sweet?
I don't know if I blocked you or something, man.
Because you can time them out from here, I guess,
right? SVG says a lot of people cheated through
college. The initial pay was that the initial
pay has been lowered to hidden unqualified people.
The super race comes after proof of knowledge.
Yes, that makes a lot of sense. So like as soon
as you get to a company like they might be paying
you jack shit, but as soon as you get there and
you're actually good, they'll pay you a ton.
That makes sense. Hmm. I see. Okay. I understand
now. Yeah. Because smart people recognize other
smart people. They can tell when you actually
know what you're doing. Hmm. Okay. Makes sense.
Yeah. That's, that's actually really true. Yeah.
That's just kind of a, a way to, to pay like
people who cheat almost nothing. Hopefully that's
what happens. You know, that you do get your
money raised afterwards. right uh yeah hopefully
that that's what happens that's how it works
at my company says catalog ready now there's
a question that someone else posted here in chat
appreciate for the super chat sbgx let's see
so sylvan see you look at this here Beat this.
I'm like the priest. MFR comes here to confess.
What did you do in that shower? Oh, I forgot
that. I forgot that's on YouTube publicly. I
keep forgetting I made that video. How do I answer
that best? His girlfriend takes girlfriend is
gonna watch this probably I Don't know the conspiracy
goes that deep Yeah, there was some where is
it I had some picture maybe Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I had channel emotes. You can switch to my screen
if you want. All right, I'll switch to that right
now. Okay, can you see this? Yep. So Jake and
I were going to have some channel emotes. He's
very Greek. So we had some things like that on
this because it's very iconic. But the problem
is YouTube only supports very low resolution.
Like emotes. You can't really, you can't use
these images. They're too big. It really sucks.
Yeah. But we worked hard on this. We had like
depressed Jake too. Oh, I see what you mean.
You're talking about the lip. I don't want to
see Jake's. You know, just. Yeah. You're talking
about these ones. Hold on. I'm going to send
them in chat right now. So if people become members,
they can send those. Those are the ones that
I added. But I get what you're I get what you're
saying, because when you. Yeah, I'm going to
switch back to the switch back to the other one.
When you add them as images here, they have to
be pretty zoomed in or you cannot see shit, right?
Is that what you're talking about? These little
ones here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what's going
to happen? You're not going to live with Jake
anymore because you used to live in his apartment,
right? No, I still do. I'm just staying with
my parents for the first school break. yeah i
still go to that apartment all the time but yeah
next year next year jake is graduating and i'm
still gonna be in school so i'm not sure oh really
yeah yeah also like they they said i need renter's
insurance which is just ridiculous like i'm already
paying rent and utilities and stuff so i might
just like i might try to believe i'm not dealing
with that Like one time I had to take a class
and there was a textbook and I couldn't pirate
it. So I just dropped the class. Oh man. How
does your mom feel? How does your mom feel with
you becoming an... adult and going through all
this crap. Like, I guess you were a kid just
a few months ago, right? You were her baby and
you still held her hand and used to go to the
playing ground, you know, and that must feel
sad. How does she feel? Because you don't understand
it now because you're the kid. But as a parent,
you know, as your kid, my daughter is my baby
and I take her and we go out. places together.
We go to the lake and we go to eat and stuff
like that. But then they just leave the nest.
How does she feel? What does she say? Yeah. I
should really ask her about that more. I think
it's like a slow, gradual change. I don't know.
But I guess it has been kind of sudden for me
in the last six months doing what I'm doing.
But, yeah, I think she's overall, she's supportive.
She knows she raised me well. Yeah, she must
be proud. Now, you also switched, moving on to
another topic, the Glove 80, you purchased one.
How did it go? Did you realize it was a mistake
already? You quit? No, not at all. It's not that,
it's just like... It's the same problem with
like using Linux. It's like, yes, it's, it's
better, but I don't have time to learn it right
now. Like I just need to get work done. So I'm
just using my laptop keyboard because I also,
I move around a lot and it's just like more stuff
to drag around. I'll learn it one day for sure.
I've typed on it a bit, but it's like, I feel
like I have to set up layers for it to be effective,
you know, and that's such a rabbit hole. There's
so much to figuring out what layers are good.
And yeah, I don't know. And then you're going
to feel that the numbers are too far away. Haven't
you felt that, that the number row is way too
up there and it's like, it's reachable, but it's
a stretch. So I just ditched it. F keys, ditch
them as well. so i don't know i ordered a different
keyboard and i'm just waiting for it to be shipped
and i just want to confirm because we're all
told this ideas you know concavity in your keyboard
is the best and we just accept them right and
it's like it's another youtuber said so you know
concave keyboards are the best you know that
the curvature in the in the club 80. I'm not
quite sure, to be honest. I've used the Glove
80 for over a year now. I got used to it already.
You know, I can type quite fast on it. And I'm
used, 100 % used to it. Well, recently I switched
like two days ago. Enter was here and Backspace
was here. So I switched them. Have you seen that
in my messages? I just send a word and I send
it. And I just send word by word. It's because
I switched them. It's tough. I'm getting used
to that. But is concavity a good or a bad thing?
I don't know. I did follow YouTubers and I believed
them. And I probably became one of them because
I was like, yeah, the Glove 80 is the best thing
in the world. But I want to try a flat split
keyboard and see if concavity is actually good
or it's just, you know. A waste of time. Once
I try the new keyboard, I'll let you guys know
my thoughts on it. But yeah, the Glove 80 is
good. At least it's a split keyboard. It's good.
It's comfortable. But I don't know, man. Yeah,
I don't know. The split keyboard thing, I think
we're hitting diminishing returns. I'm just waiting
for neural link so I can just think directly
into the computer. Yeah, yeah. Which switches
did you get? You remember? Did you get the pink,
the red pearls or the plum blossoms? I think
red. The red? Yeah. They're horrible. I didn't
like them. Oh, no. Yeah. No, but they're not
bad. You know, they're a little bit noisy. They're
not too noisy. They're not too hard. No, you
know, they're good. They're not bad. All right.
Mati, any final words? Anything else you want
to? Talk about before we... I guess I'd love
to ask, just because you mentioned it, what's
it like to do cocaine? What's it like? It depends
on the quality, I would say. It depends on the
quality. If it's really good quality, I was throwing
up once, man, because it was such great. You
feel euphoric. But I always did it when I was
drunk. And when I was very drunk, I always did
it at that point. So it just made you feel better.
It adds a little bit more to it. You know, it's
like adding spices to the food and it makes it
taste better. It's like that. I used to drink
a lot and I used to smoke a lot of cigarettes
when I was drinking. And those were like a spice
to, you know, you used to smoke and it was like
adding more stuff to it. You know, it makes you
feel better. Then you add a little bit of coke
to it, makes it feel better. You know, you just
feel. I wasn't always too drunk, to be honest,
but if you wanted to sleep you couldn't for sure
that's that's a thing but yeah yeah i also did
uh the other one crystal i did it when i was
really drunk as well that was different it was
different because you didn't eat you didn't sleep
for two three days you know so i could drink
without eating wow yeah Or two, three days. But
after that, God damn. Do I recommend it, chat?
If you're thinking about doing it, because it
sounds great, right? It sounds amazing. Fuck
no. Just don't do it. Out of experience, I wasted
10 years of my life. I almost went the complete
wrong direction. If it wasn't because of... God,
and it sounds cliche as well. It sounds like
a little bitch. God is the only savior. That's
bullshit. But that's what happened with me specifically.
You found Buddhism. It's a good thing. It's the
way that life decided or found a way to reach
you. For me, it was different. Krishna was that
reached me. And that is what helped. Help me
go out of that because you don't, you usually
don't get out of that. It's pretty rare, extremely
rare cases that you can leave drugs and alcohol
if you're that involved. If you do it casually,
it's fine. You know, you're not going to be bad,
but it always progresses, right? So it's good.
It's amazing until it's not. I don't know if
that answered your question or if that leaves
you with more questions. You can ask, it's fine.
Yeah, yeah. Why was it like Krishna specifically
in Hindu mythology? That's very interesting.
Because life has its ways, man. It's pretty weird,
you know, because... Christianity didn't work
for me. And I'm not saying it's bad, you know,
but that's the religion in my country. That's
what everyone does here. Christian stuff, right?
And I just noticed how people acted, Christian
people. And I was like, that's not according
to what you're teaching, you know? So I felt,
I didn't feel that it was like an honest thing,
at least. where I'm at, right? It can be different
in all the other parts of the world. So I was
like, no, I'm an atheist. I'm an agnostic. You
know, I don't believe, but I believe. I was like,
I don't care. You know, I just don't mess with
that at all. I was more of an atheist, I think.
So life finds a way. You know, it's smart. There's
something up there that is way smarter. And it's
like, You're not going to fall into Christianity.
You're not going to fall into, you know, Hinduism,
Buddhism. That is the one for you. And life is
going to send someone that is going to talk to
you, that is going to help you grow. Fortunately,
that's what happened with me. My wife was in
a bus one day. She was taking the bus. We, both
of us, we were crazy, man. We used to do drugs,
alcohol, crazy stuff. oh man yeah bad couple
you know if you do that with your couple and
if you're both uh addicts it's like the beautiful
boy movie man i i love i love that movie because
i feel identified with it you know it's like
it is real it's a fucking real thing what happens
in that movie but she was in the bus one day
and someone uh got in the bus and was selling
books you know and a small book let me show it
to you hold on i have it here somewhere this
it's a really small book you see it it's yeah
a pocket version it doesn't have the last page
already but it's a really small one it's in spanish
and it's some something that someone transcribed
from a huge book which is the bag about the kita
It's a huge book. It's a conversation that Krishna
had with Arjuna in a battle 5 ,000 years ago.
And this little thing right here is what helped
me. I'm not saying that is the solution, right?
It is not. It's what helped me. Because life
knew that I was not going to listen to anything
else. When I started reading this book, I used
to smoke a lot. I had a bong. And I remember
I had a picture. My wife took it. I was reading
one of these books. And I was smoking in my bong.
How do you call it? Bong? The glass thing where
you put water in. And I was like, this is bullshit.
No, this is bullshit. I didn't believe it. But
that's what I needed at that time. I don't know.
The universe wanted to help me. My wife. you
know, plays a huge part in that. Cause if it
wasn't for her, uh, I, it wouldn't be possible.
It wouldn't be possible. So I don't know. Just
clicked basically. Yeah. It's just so interesting.
It's man. Every, every person's life is like,
so it's so unique and, and different. Yeah. We
all follow very strange paths. Exactly, exactly.
And how did it happen with you and Buddhism?
It must have been someone that you admired or
that you at least considered smart so that you
listened to that person. How did that happen?
How did they get you? I guess so. Yeah. I'm not
sure. I think I honestly just didn't give it
a ton of thought before. Like, I thought it was
all just kind of like, I don't know, like brainwashing
nonsense that has no no. I'm very like scientific
kind of guy. Very. I was raised kind of agnostic
or atheist. That's that was just my opinion.
But thinking about. Thinking about someone like
Buddha is not a. not like a spiritual figure
so much as like just a really really brilliant
engineer like a guy who designed something he
designed like the way i think of it is like he
he kind of realized like wait a minute everyone's
like killing each other and trying to get as
rich as possible and trying to just be like the
top dog here but what's like What is the future
of humanity really going to look like? I can't
like maybe I could be the richest king, you know,
in in my lifetime. But is that going to do anything
for me? Not really. What I can do, though, is
like try to steer humanity forward by coming
up with like a really advanced framework for
thinking about the world and like researching
all the different ways that our brain works and
how we can kind of predict them. And then. and
then just pass that along with as much wisdom
as I can to future generations. I just think
he was a really brilliant engineer. I don't think
there's anything like... I don't know. Spirituality
has all this mysticism around it. I just think
he was a really wicked smart guy who made a bunch
of observations that hold true and then just
passed them down to future generations. Mm -hmm.
Yeah. Yep. And have you realized that it's never
going to be enough? I was thinking about that
the other day. It doesn't matter if I get 50
,000 subs, 100 ,000 subs. Is that going to make
me feel awesome? Is that the answer? Is that
what I'm looking for? If I get a million subs,
I'm still going to be chasing for more, right?
Because that's what happens. I don't know if
that... if that happens with you or not, but
when I reach an achievement, I don't enjoy it.
It's like, okay, it's done. Let's move on to
the next one. I reached that other one. I don't
even enjoy it for a second. It's like, this is
not enough. Let's move on to the next one. And
that's going to make me feel better. You reach
that next one. It's not enough. Move on to the
next one. And I'm just, you know, life is just
passing by and it's never going to be enough.
So I said, I need to do meditation. I need to
find inner peace because my mind is always fucking,
you know, my CPU is at 100 % all the time and
I'm focused on a lot of different stuff and I'm
never present and I'm tired of it. You know,
I'm tired of always being somewhere else. I'm
always in the future. I'm always in the past,
but I'm never really here. And I just got tired
of it, you know, because it's like you feel powerless.
You feel like... What's the meaning of all this?
It doesn't make any sense, right? So recently
I decided, no, I need to go back inside. I need
to try to meditate. I need to try to go back
to the yoga and all that stuff. Yeah, there's
no other answer, man. Eventually, you realize
that, you know, you're going to explore as much
as you want. You know, you're going to enjoy
as much as you want. You're going to realize
that it's never going to be enough. It's never
going to satisfy you. The only thing that is
going to satisfy you is if you find peace with
yourself, I think. Yeah, but even then, maybe
not. I don't know. It might just be the nature
or nature to not really be ever satisfied. Of
the human being. Yeah. exactly yeah but at least
hopefully it makes it more vulnerable right so
yeah because otherwise life's a bitch man if
you're always chasing the next goal it's tiring
right it's it's suffocating it's uh no yeah You
get desperate. It's like, man, I just want this
to end. I just want to. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.
It's tough. Yeah. All right. Shalomit. Appreciate
it, man. Any final words then? Any final questions
or we're done for the day? I don't think so.
I should probably get to bed. Yeah. What time
is it? It's nine. Nine. Nine, right? Yeah. I
had to take my daughter to bed as well. So, yeah.
Thanks, Chad. Thanks. What was his name? XCPNG.
What was the guy's name? XCPNG. That's a hypervisor.
Have you heard about XCPNG? It's like Proxmox,
but I use XCPNG. It's the best. SBGX is the guy
that donated. Really appreciate it. Thanks to
you as well, Sylvan. Thanks, Chad. Yeah. Talk
to you later. Did you apologize to Tony and Miss
because you left them hanging that day? Did you?
No, I haven't yet. No, that's bad, man. That's
bad. Talk to your Buddhist priest about that.
Kidding. All right, man. Talk to you. Bye. We'll
see you.