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everyone have a guest today the youtube's channel

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i'm gonna call him you hey you how's it going

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i am fine thanks okay awesome so um you have

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a pretty big channel by the way you have like

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how long have you had your channel A year and

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a half. I was checking your channel. It's been

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on for a year and a half and you have like 20

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,000 subscribers, right? Like, what do you do?

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What's your secret? How did you grow up so fast?

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I don't know, to be honest. No? I don't have

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a specific answer about this question. No? Did

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you have editing experience or you just started?

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Zero. If you look at my first video, that was

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horrible. The first long video that I did was

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the Easter about Debian. It was so horrible video.

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That video make me to understand a lot of things.

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Consider that I take more than one month to create

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that video, to edit that video. I used to use

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Flowblade and then... Now, probably I can do

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in just four hours. Okay. It's a process. When

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you start to create, you will improve. Yep. It

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takes less time. You start to understand a lot

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of things. It's not just a game. It was a particular

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moment of my life. And then, I don't know. When

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you enter in something, you don't realize. And

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then when you watch your back, you say, okay,

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I enter here. Uh -huh. Do you know what I mean?

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Yeah. Yeah. And how do you edit, by the way?

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What program do you use? I use KDN Live. Oh,

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okay. Okay. Okay. Sometimes I use the short course

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as well on my supercomputer for a gig of run.

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What do you have? What computer do you have?

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A ThinkPad or what is it? I got, well, I got...

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Adel, an Optiplex. Here is my main system with

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Void Linux. And then I'm doing a lot of experiments

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now. I got... My brother gave me this... Thinkpad.

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X1 Nano 2. Yes. And I got Slack over here. And

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then I got this one that I've got on Portose.

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And it's, I think, about X2... X270. Can you

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see it? Yep, I see it. And there I got the anti

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-desktop. I got Alpine and LabWC. Oh, Alpine.

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The only place that I have used Alpine is in

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Docker containers because it's a pretty small

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distribution, right? Believe me, Alpine Linux

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is an amazing distribution. It's a serious project.

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It's very organized. also you know it doesn't

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use the other version because it doesn't have

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the the utilities so because everything is thinking

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to be more efficient oh okay that's really minimal

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right Well, it's minimal, but it's minimal installation.

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You decide what you want. But the system is very

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quick, it's efficient. I love it. And the software

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management is very easy. The only problem is

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the name, because I used for 10 years Debian,

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and the name is APK. Still now I'm doing APT

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and this natural. Do you know what I mean? That's

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the only problem. Oh, okay. I see. So what is

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your main distribution? Which one is the one

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that you use the most? Like your daily driver?

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I don't change it. I don't change distro. When

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I find my distro, I will stay with the distro.

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I start in 2000, 2001 with Slackware. It's a

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long story. I will tell you afterwards. And then

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I start to use Debian. Then I enter in the dream

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of Ubuntu. Then the dream was broken. I come

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back to Debian. And then, you know, during the

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process of the channel, I'm doing a lot of tests

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with the new distro. And I have... pendrive with

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a lot of iso inside and i have this iso void

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linux for like one year i never tried then when

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i tried i love it and i decided to change system

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i use void linux now oh you're in void linux

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why did you leave them in that's a good question

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I don't know. For a couple of motivations, I'm

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trying to explain, to bring out something that

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is unconscious. I don't know. I'm trying to give

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myself an actual explanation why. I think it

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changed a little bit. I really forgive Debian

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for the system dejoys. Okay? And then also, you

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know, a lot of political things happened inside

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the Debian project and not just the Debian project.

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And then also they are trying to rewrite now

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APT Rust. You know, Debian is like a fortress

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for the open source. It represents a lot for

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us, for the community. Consider that for years

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Debian didn't use Firefox just for a question

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of logo property, question of license of the

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logo. And it's a very serious project. Still

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now, it's a very organized project. Everything

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is organized, everything is documented. But it's

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a little bit... It's changing a little bit. It's

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not the same as before. Politically? I think

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politically as well, yes. It's not just Debian,

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it's everywhere. And that's the big problem of

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the open source. You know, as on YouTube, I noticed

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that there are just two flags. Or you don't speak,

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or you are just extreme. Do you know what I mean?

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There is too much extremization. And I think

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we need to answer to this with the logic, not

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with the hate. Do you know what I mean? I don't

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belong to any flag. I'm not an extreme person.

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I'm a conservative person. I think that I'm right

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for something and left for other things. But

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I'm not extreme. So absolutely. We are losing

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the ability to look properly at reality. Because

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we are too much... You see that video about the

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history of the woman in technology? I lost four

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subscribers with that video. Why? The people

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are like us, charged with anger. about these

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topics as soon as you touch a topic. So if I

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say something against the work, I cannot say

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something as I said in my video about the woman.

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I need to be extreme like them. It's not like

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that. Do you know what I mean? I get mad for

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these things, but I keep going to create that

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type of video. Do you want that type of audience,

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right? Someone that is going to get offended?

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Nothing bad was in that video, right? No, I want

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everybody must watch my channel. Right, left

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on my channel, I noticed that comments come from

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trans people, woke people, anti -woke people.

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Everybody is free to comment. I think our common

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ground is the technology is open source. It's

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not the politics. If I'm here to speak with you

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about what I think about gay or what I think

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about Trump, we are going to fight. Do you know

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what I mean? The common ground of our communities

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is the open source. And we move this focus from

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the open source to the cultural war. And this

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is a big mistake. That's absolutely a mistake.

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because the union when a community is split is

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is destroyed and then also the label if you if

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you think like that you are a fascist no i'm

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not sorry i'm not fascist at all do you know

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what i mean why you that's just a label yeah

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so What do you think happened or is happening

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to Debian politically? What conspiracy theories

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do you have? No, I don't have any conspiracy

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theory. And if you read this type of... This

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is not just to Debian. You know, they have a

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lot of policies. They ban some type of people.

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I understand that. part of the user is becoming

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so extreme, but we need to accept everybody.

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We need to accept all of the opinions. I cannot

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say that I'm right or you're wrong. I say that

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I have my opinion, but maybe I'm wrong. I cannot

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impose your vision of the world behind a technical

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project. It's a technical project. Ian Murdoch,

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when he created Debian, he didn't think about

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gender identity or other stuff. We should care

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just about the technology, right? Not be focusing...

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Don't take me wrong. Don't take me wrong. The

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problem exists, especially in the United States

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of America. There is a big problem of racism,

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but it's also in the... What way? Do you know

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what I mean? A lot of monuments were destroyed.

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Cristóbal Colombo, you cannot judge a person

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that used to live five centuries ago with the

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mind of now. This is not how history works. Do

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you know what I mean? I know that a lot of studies

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were cancelled about the work of politics. They

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changed the monument name as well. In the university,

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some professor need to do a declaration before

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to join the university. I don't agree with this.

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It creates just polarization. He moves away to

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discuss seriously about the topic. And I agree

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with what you said, that you cannot be... banning

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people for example right someone a lot of people

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leave comments in my videos that i don't agree

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with i could delete them but why would i delete

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them i just leave them there you know even if

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they're we could say disrespectful or i don't

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agree with them i just leave them there and say

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whatever right because yeah it's not just my

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opinion and my ideas the ones that matter when

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when when someone disagrees with me i'm very

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happy i'm not joking I'm looking for disagreement.

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We live in this big culture of agreement on YouTube.

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Everything is nice. It's beautiful. Everything

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is okay. If you look some YouTuber, Gnome is

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okay. Xv is okay. Zorin is okay. Ubuntu is okay.

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Debian is okay. Everything is okay. It's not

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like that. It's not. Please. Please. No. I want

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disagreement. If we disagree... we can understand

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something each other we can meet in the middle

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my point of view can change do you know is i

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need that clash in a lot of video i'm doing very

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pretty critical video deep critic um especially

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on rust oh my god i received some comments very

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long i learned a lot very very competent people

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guys I don't know how to program. And these guys

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was very confident. I learn a lot. It's a way

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to learn as well. Why we need to agree? We don't

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need to agree. We are different. What's the problem?

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Some guys tell me, oh, I disagree with you. Okay,

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I'm happy. Thank you. Please do it. Yeah, we

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don't have to agree on everything. I also noticed

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in one of your videos, do you have beef? As they

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call it in the US with Markdown. What's going

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on with you and Markdown? No, no. That video

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was a guy that sent me the script. So it wasn't

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me. I just read. I like the topic. And I agree

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with that guy. And I just played the video. Oh,

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I see. Okay, okay. I'm not into, I'm not like,

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I told you, I'm not into Emacs or NeoVim or Emacs,

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I mean, this type of topic. That's just fog,

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sorry. What do you use then? You don't use NeoVim

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or Emacs, what do you use? Just a text editor,

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it's a text editor. Yeah, just... Sorry, it's

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just a text editor. So there doesn't need to

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be a war. No, I don't want to be... If you do

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coding or if you do a lot of dot file or a lot

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of things like that, it makes sense. For example,

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I love writing. I'm trying to write novels. For

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me... That's not the right tool. Do you know

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what I mean? So I don't use it. Yep. So. Okay.

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But I think most of the people doesn't, if he's

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a Max or Neo, it doesn't matter. Okay. To be

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honest. You also mentioned a moment ago that

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you forgave Debian because of system D. So you're

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against system D. And why? SystemD is against

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the Unix philosophy. It's a program that can

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do a lot of things. And that's against the Unix

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philosophy. Also, it's a monolith. It's not just

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an init system. It's doing a lot of... It's doing

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logging as well. It's doing binary logging. And

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some people complain about that because the textual

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logging is easy to understand. A lot of motivation.

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And also is the politics as well. You know, an

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imposition. When you impose this from above,

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because you have power, because system D was

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created about Red Hat and GNOME. And then everybody

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start to use system D. And I think that's a wrong

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choice. I understand that we need a modern system.

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But why do we need to use systemd? We need to

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use just an init system. Not a system that does

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more things. Unix is not created for that. That's

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not Unix. That's not Linux. Sorry. I know why

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they create a standard that is very easy for

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sysadmin. a lot of people love it okay but we

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are unix we are linux that's that's different

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yeah it's very difficult to manage it's not transparent

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on my void i can easily manage my the services

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that start on my system better than systemd no

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okay okay also on alpine i'm trying to use I'm

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trying to use distro without systemd. I mean,

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I'm not against nothing. I mean, it's important

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to have alternatives. Do you know what I mean?

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It's really important. That's one of the important

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points of Linux as an environment. Don't be too

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much focused on just a specific project. Just

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have a lot of alternatives. It's important. Okay.

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What are your thoughts on Red Hat? On IBM, you

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mean? On IBM, exactly. Yeah. It was, you know,

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like that did something historic for Linux, no?

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You start to do business and do a lot of money

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with Linux. This was not easy to understand at

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that time. It was a bet, and it was quite successful.

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But also, it became a company. And IBM is like,

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we see the results now. They have tried more

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to close the proprietary system than open source.

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That's another problem. We still don't know how

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they behave. Well, let's see. I'm not so optimistic,

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to be honest. Okay. Now, I also noticed that

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in Linux, there's a lot of options. There's way

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too many options. I'm not a Linux user. Well,

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I'm a Linux user on servers only, you know, but

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I don't... But you're at Debian. You just turn

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on once a year. Yeah, yeah. My Debian servers...

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Are there? Yes. I haven't updated them in two

00:20:04.529 --> 00:20:07.430
years and I don't want to update it. They're

00:20:07.430 --> 00:20:10.990
there, but I don't use it on the desktop. But

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as a macOS user, I come to Linux and I see that

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there's way too many options. Distros, window

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managers, I don't know what other options, applications,

00:20:20.210 --> 00:20:25.529
whatever. Now, instead of having all of these

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options, because there are too many, wouldn't

00:20:28.069 --> 00:20:30.940
it be... a better approach, you know, to work

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on a few options and, you know, make them, make

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them better. Because someone comes and creates

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a new window manager from scratch, right? And

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how long is that going to be maintained? Why

00:20:41.140 --> 00:20:44.420
don't you go in, you know, support an existing

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one? I don't know. How do you feel about that?

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Do you think that there's too many options and

00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:55.700
the efforts are divided too much? That's, if

00:20:55.700 --> 00:21:00.240
you, I think you don't understand the Linux environment

00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:03.720
if you think in this way. I don't want to offend

00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.220
you. No, it's fine. It's fine. That's the open

00:21:07.220 --> 00:21:10.480
source. I can create my Windows manager as well.

00:21:10.619 --> 00:21:13.000
I can create whatever I want. I can do what I

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want. That's part of the game. Of course, in

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the competition will be someone that will emerge.

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And something great will happen. Do you know

00:21:25.339 --> 00:21:29.240
what I mean? Like a guy's... create Hyperland.

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I think Hyperland is quite revolutionary on what

00:21:32.420 --> 00:21:35.160
it brings to laptops, especially. So it was just

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a single guy that created everything. If he was

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thinking to improve another window manager, he

00:21:42.440 --> 00:21:44.660
would not create this project. Oh, yeah. You

00:21:44.660 --> 00:21:46.740
have a point there. That's part of the game.

00:21:46.819 --> 00:21:53.960
The fragmentation is normal. It's natural. It

00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:58.859
is what it is. Okay, makes sense. And you touched

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on Wayland. Which one, which team are you on?

00:22:02.420 --> 00:22:08.880
Wayland or X11? Also, we come back to the previous

00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:13.759
topic. There is a lot of tribalism if you are

00:22:13.759 --> 00:22:17.359
against Wayland or against... I did a lot of

00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:20.759
video against Wayland, but because I'm noticing

00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:24.259
that Wayland is becoming the only system and

00:22:24.259 --> 00:22:27.380
that's wrong. We need alternatives. You know

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what I mean? Now, GNOME and KDE will be Wayland

00:22:34.180 --> 00:22:38.680
only, but a lot of old computers will be... You

00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:42.799
can not install anymore GNOME or KDE. And, you

00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:46.299
know, this is not really... This is like an end

00:22:46.299 --> 00:22:51.420
of life. It doesn't make any sense. Why? I know...

00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:54.339
It costs too much. It costs a lot to support

00:22:54.339 --> 00:22:58.099
both of them. But I think we must do as an ecosystem.

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We must support both of them. They are totally

00:23:03.740 --> 00:23:08.640
different from the technical point of view. They

00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:13.700
say that Wayland is more secure. I think security

00:23:13.700 --> 00:23:21.380
is not just the display server. This is what

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I think. I use Wayland. On Slackware, I go to

00:23:24.140 --> 00:23:27.359
Wayland. So there's no problem for me. So you

00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:33.700
use Wayland only, right? Yes. No, no. No. On

00:23:33.700 --> 00:23:43.519
my Void, I got X11. Okay. Okay. Makes sense.

00:23:43.740 --> 00:23:49.480
Okay. Now, what are your thoughts on Ubuntu?

00:23:50.009 --> 00:23:55.309
It seems that you don't like it. No, I don't

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like it. I used to love Ubuntu. A lot of users.

00:24:04.349 --> 00:24:11.910
When Ubuntu, I think it was 2005 or 2004, like

00:24:11.910 --> 00:24:15.599
20 years ago, it was like a dream. someone with

00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.019
a billion from South Africa, you want to make

00:24:18.019 --> 00:24:24.160
Linux mainstream, easy to install. Everybody

00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:28.559
believe that. But then it changed a little bit.

00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:36.420
I come back to Debian after when they released

00:24:36.420 --> 00:24:42.630
Unity, and then I try again. Ubuntu and I noticed

00:24:42.630 --> 00:24:46.470
that it was full of bug, very slow. Snap is like

00:24:46.470 --> 00:24:51.970
an answer for me. As a Unix and Linux user, I

00:24:51.970 --> 00:24:55.309
can never accept something like Snap on my ecosystem.

00:24:55.609 --> 00:24:58.849
It's something outside of the world. If they

00:24:58.849 --> 00:25:02.529
did this, they are outside of the world in my

00:25:02.529 --> 00:25:05.180
opinion. Okay, so you liked it 20 years ago.

00:25:05.259 --> 00:25:07.819
I remember that I played with Ubuntu, yeah, around

00:25:07.819 --> 00:25:11.019
20 years ago, approximately, when they used to

00:25:11.019 --> 00:25:13.220
send you the disks, right? Well, I didn't get

00:25:13.220 --> 00:25:16.640
disks either. That's one of the great things

00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:19.480
that they did. They did a lot of great things.

00:25:21.059 --> 00:25:26.559
They also work on a lot of projects. They did

00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:31.039
the display server as well, Mir. They did an

00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:35.119
init server as well, init system as well, abstract.

00:25:35.619 --> 00:25:40.460
All of them failed. But Ubuntu Canonical was

00:25:40.460 --> 00:25:45.359
brave. It brings a lot of innovation in the Linux

00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.619
world. There was a history before Ubuntu, a history

00:25:48.619 --> 00:25:53.640
after Ubuntu. It was very important. The marketing

00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:57.319
is important on Ubuntu. They understand that

00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.230
Linux... the marketing part on Linux is also

00:26:00.230 --> 00:26:07.450
important to be popular. Even now, the list of

00:26:07.450 --> 00:26:10.869
Ubuntu got the best team, the best customization

00:26:10.869 --> 00:26:16.670
is very, all the details of the seller are, the

00:26:16.670 --> 00:26:20.970
small details are created. So I think on marketing,

00:26:21.009 --> 00:26:25.940
they are quite good. Okay, okay. just for marketing

00:26:25.940 --> 00:26:29.920
marketing okay that's an ubuntu now then you

00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:35.259
don't recommend it absolutely not is there is

00:26:35.259 --> 00:26:39.000
much better you cannot you cannot remove snapped

00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.779
and that's a big problem for me that's against

00:26:42.779 --> 00:26:46.880
the philosophy of linux of open source i cannot

00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:55.049
impose you a system why I try to remove Snap.

00:26:55.269 --> 00:26:59.529
Also, I try to install Chrome without a dead

00:26:59.529 --> 00:27:02.549
package, and it doesn't work. It forces you to

00:27:02.549 --> 00:27:07.950
install with Snap. You kill me if you do this.

00:27:09.190 --> 00:27:13.529
That makes no sense for me. Sorry. That's against

00:27:13.529 --> 00:27:16.549
the Linux philosophy. And which Linux distros

00:27:16.549 --> 00:27:21.660
do you recommend, then? I don't recommend the

00:27:21.660 --> 00:27:25.519
Linux distro, to be honest. Why? I think everybody

00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:28.039
needs to find his way. Do you know what I mean?

00:27:28.859 --> 00:27:32.319
Of course, there are... For example, a person

00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:38.299
like you, you use Apple, right? Yep, macOS. So

00:27:38.299 --> 00:27:40.859
if you ask me which distro, I can tell you, don't

00:27:40.859 --> 00:27:43.339
use Ubuntu, but you need to find the distro for

00:27:43.339 --> 00:27:45.519
you. It's your decision, it's not my decision.

00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:49.630
I love Void, I love Slackware, I love... But

00:27:49.630 --> 00:27:52.349
also Arch Linux is a great distro. I'm not saying

00:27:52.349 --> 00:27:59.150
that it's crap. But in general, I think Debian

00:27:59.150 --> 00:28:05.269
now is the right balance between stability, seriousness

00:28:05.269 --> 00:28:13.089
of the project. I think Debian. Even to you,

00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:19.859
I cannot recommend Void. The software is... It's

00:28:19.859 --> 00:28:25.240
small. You know what I mean? Even to find a node

00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.720
to find help is difficult to find it because

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:33.500
not too many, too much users use it. So Debian

00:28:33.500 --> 00:28:39.059
is half of the Linux ecosystem is Debian. Do

00:28:39.059 --> 00:28:42.720
you have any thoughts on old packages on Debian?

00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.279
And what do you do in that case? Do you use flat

00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:49.250
packs or? What do you mean old packages? What

00:28:49.250 --> 00:28:54.809
is an old package for you? No, this obsession

00:28:54.809 --> 00:28:58.150
to update packages is just for funerals. Come

00:28:58.150 --> 00:29:02.470
on. I mean, when you... Sorry, I don't agree

00:29:02.470 --> 00:29:09.349
at all. What do you mean old packages? That is

00:29:09.349 --> 00:29:13.170
old from six months. Yeah, that diversions. People

00:29:13.170 --> 00:29:18.140
nowadays want the latest and greatest. I think

00:29:18.140 --> 00:29:22.500
it's just a myth, one of the others. It's just

00:29:22.500 --> 00:29:25.039
bullshit. Sorry for the words. It's just a bullshit.

00:29:25.619 --> 00:29:29.900
What if you change to have the latest version

00:29:29.900 --> 00:29:33.539
of a package when you can have a very stable

00:29:33.539 --> 00:29:36.359
version from four months ago? What is the difference?

00:29:36.819 --> 00:29:39.039
Do we have something new in that package? If

00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:40.900
there is something new, extremely important,

00:29:41.339 --> 00:29:46.690
it makes sense. It depends about the type of

00:29:46.690 --> 00:29:49.970
the user, what the user do, what they need. But

00:29:49.970 --> 00:29:54.009
for a normal person, like 99 .99 % of the people,

00:29:54.089 --> 00:29:57.230
I don't think so. You have a point there. Yeah,

00:29:57.289 --> 00:29:59.650
like one of the examples could be, for example,

00:29:59.809 --> 00:30:02.910
Neovim, right? Because Neovim is releasing features

00:30:02.910 --> 00:30:06.109
very often. And when they release a feature,

00:30:06.289 --> 00:30:09.950
I'm waiting on Neovim 0 .12 right now. You can

00:30:09.950 --> 00:30:12.309
get it on Nightly, but I don't do it. I'm just

00:30:12.309 --> 00:30:14.230
going to wait until it's officially released,

00:30:14.470 --> 00:30:17.069
right? But in Debian, I'm not sure when that

00:30:17.069 --> 00:30:20.170
is going to arrive in Debian. But as you said,

00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:24.230
not a lot of people have that specific need,

00:30:24.410 --> 00:30:27.410
right? Yes, of course. If you are that type of

00:30:27.410 --> 00:30:30.730
user, you are not going to install Debian. Probably

00:30:30.730 --> 00:30:33.630
your skillet, you will install Arch Linux or

00:30:33.630 --> 00:30:38.779
Void or, you know. Okay. What are your thoughts

00:30:38.779 --> 00:30:42.480
on Arch, by the way? I think it's a great distro.

00:30:42.619 --> 00:30:46.799
It's a very serious project, Arch. It's very

00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.920
organized as well. It's very transparent. And

00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:56.299
this is something that nobody talks about. People

00:30:56.299 --> 00:30:59.519
suggest a lot of distros, but who is behind the

00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:03.000
distro? How is it organized? How is it managed,

00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.609
the distro? Because when you install Microsoft

00:31:06.609 --> 00:31:11.210
or Apple, you trust an organization. They have

00:31:11.210 --> 00:31:14.410
control. Microsoft is a corporation. They have

00:31:14.410 --> 00:31:18.029
money. They have money, but they have a structure.

00:31:18.250 --> 00:31:23.609
You know who are they. But sometimes you install

00:31:23.609 --> 00:31:26.210
some Linux distro and you don't know who they

00:31:26.210 --> 00:31:31.049
are, who is behind the distro. That's important

00:31:31.049 --> 00:31:33.329
as well. The organization is important. As you

00:31:33.329 --> 00:31:36.589
told me, A distro can burn now and die tomorrow.

00:31:37.009 --> 00:31:40.609
If they have a solid organization, it's not like

00:31:40.609 --> 00:31:47.130
that. Organization is important. Governance.

00:31:48.089 --> 00:31:52.069
There are some distros that have an amazing organization,

00:31:52.509 --> 00:31:57.390
very transparent. Debian, Gentoo, Arch, Alpine.

00:31:58.509 --> 00:32:01.269
They're very organized. On Gentoo, you can...

00:32:02.259 --> 00:32:05.819
download the meeting the minute you can check

00:32:05.819 --> 00:32:09.099
everything what they say word by words in the

00:32:09.099 --> 00:32:11.940
meeting every decision that's transparency uh

00:32:11.940 --> 00:32:15.460
-huh and this is important for an open source

00:32:15.460 --> 00:32:21.019
project okay so you're in favor of um arch besides

00:32:21.019 --> 00:32:26.680
ubuntu i'm not in favor i mean In my opinion,

00:32:26.740 --> 00:32:32.180
Void is a superior choice. Arch is a great project.

00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:35.359
Come on. It's not because I use Void that I think

00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:39.759
Arch is shit. It's a great project. Come on.

00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:44.720
It's a great distro. Absolutely. I did a video

00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:48.660
and I explained why, in my opinion, Void is superior.

00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:54.559
And I think it is. Void has the ability to be

00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.400
rolling and stable. Do you know what I mean?

00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.799
It doesn't have any system. That's very important.

00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:06.140
But Arch is a great distro. Come on. Okay. Now,

00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:10.180
besides Ubuntu, are there any other distros that

00:33:10.180 --> 00:33:20.339
you don't like? Zorin OS. Zorin? Why? Oh, they

00:33:20.339 --> 00:33:24.160
have a membership or something, right? Please,

00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.660
can you do a favor for me? Yep. Can you go on

00:33:28.660 --> 00:33:32.240
the site of Zorin OS? Okay, let me go. Hold on.

00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.700
Yes, you go on the site of Zorin OS and you go

00:33:36.700 --> 00:33:39.279
on the pro version. You read and you tell me

00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:41.160
what you think. Hold on. And don't say nothing,

00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:44.079
okay? Just give me a second. Let's read here

00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:48.660
the super chats because people are donating,

00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:51.420
okay? And I'm going to explain what the dynamic

00:33:51.420 --> 00:33:53.460
is going to be. People can read it already. But

00:33:53.460 --> 00:34:01.920
let's see. We have here Kenneth23 gifted 10 memberships.

00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:04.440
Really appreciate that. I didn't know YouTube

00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.660
had that option. I don't know how that works,

00:34:06.700 --> 00:34:09.840
but it seems that all these people got a membership.

00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:12.760
I really appreciate that, Kenneth. Thank you

00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.000
very much. Now, the way that this is going to

00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:18.619
work is, well, we have another one from BlueSquad.

00:34:19.640 --> 00:34:24.059
Squatch Productions, $5. Thanks for doing you.

00:34:24.900 --> 00:34:29.159
Okay, thank you. And we have another one here

00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.739
at the bottom from Rumi Ventures. That's Rumin.

00:34:32.900 --> 00:34:35.739
That guy is the one that pays me $50 a month

00:34:35.739 --> 00:34:40.780
just for what I'm doing. Yeah, he's my CEO. So

00:34:40.780 --> 00:34:43.980
he says, love for Foss. Thank you. Now, these

00:34:43.980 --> 00:34:50.150
super chats. that we're receiving are going to

00:34:50.150 --> 00:34:52.369
be donated to a project. I don't know if you

00:34:52.369 --> 00:34:54.969
want to choose the project, Hugh. No, you will

00:34:54.969 --> 00:34:57.050
choose the project. It's your channel. So as

00:34:57.050 --> 00:35:00.510
soon as it's open source, I may pick. Okay. I

00:35:00.510 --> 00:35:04.849
will choose the Super Chats. They're going for

00:35:04.849 --> 00:35:08.809
Kitty's terminal creator, Kovic Goyal. He has

00:35:08.809 --> 00:35:11.230
been in my channel sometimes. That's fine. And

00:35:11.230 --> 00:35:14.309
I think you're going to match that amount and

00:35:14.309 --> 00:35:17.699
donate it to a project as well, correct? I will

00:35:17.699 --> 00:35:21.000
send you the money and you donate to him as well.

00:35:21.699 --> 00:35:24.039
Oh, we can donate to two different projects.

00:35:24.179 --> 00:35:26.139
We can donate the Super Chats to one of them.

00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:31.880
It's fine. We donate everything to the guys from

00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:35.900
the terminal. It's fine. Okay, awesome. So, appreciate

00:35:35.900 --> 00:35:41.320
for the Super Chats, guys. And let me go to Sorin

00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.079
OS. Hold on. Let me go to the website. Please

00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:52.230
go. okay make your computer better you're on

00:35:52.230 --> 00:35:55.849
your phone can you see something there yes i

00:35:55.849 --> 00:35:59.849
see bro right in the pro yes yes read everything

00:35:59.849 --> 00:36:04.010
tell me what you feel unleash your computer soaring

00:36:04.010 --> 00:36:12.210
os pro 47 .99 plus tax okay what do you get for

00:36:12.210 --> 00:36:22.320
those 47 .99. I don't understand. What do you

00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:30.199
get? What do you pay for this? You need to read

00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:33.460
properly how they claim the pro version. Oh,

00:36:33.460 --> 00:36:39.449
Office. Yes, Office and blah, blah, blah. Audio

00:36:39.449 --> 00:36:42.789
editor, wait, are these paid applications? Like

00:36:42.789 --> 00:36:45.949
this Office Suite, is it paid or is it an open

00:36:45.949 --> 00:36:49.550
source application? Those applications, all of

00:36:49.550 --> 00:36:53.190
them are free, like LibreOffice, Kdenlive, Inkscape,

00:36:53.190 --> 00:36:57.389
GIMP. All of them? Yes, same application that

00:36:57.389 --> 00:37:02.469
we got in our Discord. Oh. You know, it's not,

00:37:02.630 --> 00:37:06.480
listen, I'm not against the company. I know also

00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:08.659
against the fact that I can create my distro

00:37:08.659 --> 00:37:11.599
and if I want to sell, I will send for 50 quid

00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:15.139
and I ask the money for that. It's fine. But

00:37:15.139 --> 00:37:20.099
I cannot sell a distro like that and let the

00:37:20.099 --> 00:37:23.019
message to go that like it's something premium

00:37:23.019 --> 00:37:26.119
when it's not. Do you know what I mean? They

00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.920
are open source project. They also not mention

00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.380
it. The word Linux there is not mentioned. If

00:37:31.380 --> 00:37:33.880
you look at the website, you will read the open

00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:39.730
source Linux. it says no linux mint like and

00:37:39.730 --> 00:37:45.150
uh the best linux that's quite a misleading message

00:37:45.150 --> 00:37:49.989
i think it's not absolutely i don't like it oh

00:37:49.989 --> 00:37:52.610
so these are not paid applications all of these

00:37:52.610 --> 00:37:55.130
are open source because i thought that it said

00:37:55.130 --> 00:37:57.909
something microsoft you see you thought that

00:37:57.909 --> 00:37:59.949
you were they are paid application they are not

00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:05.219
I will tell you another thing. The layout that

00:38:05.219 --> 00:38:09.099
they have, that they propose as premium, there

00:38:09.099 --> 00:38:12.199
is a way to get for free because it's open source

00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.800
anyway. It's something that you can easily recreate.

00:38:16.579 --> 00:38:21.260
It's nothing exceptional. But the thing that

00:38:21.260 --> 00:38:27.059
drives me mad is that Zorin OS is a company based

00:38:27.059 --> 00:38:31.039
on Ireland, okay? And the people tell me that's

00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:34.690
the... money go to the developer. I mean, sorry.

00:38:35.670 --> 00:38:38.349
He's a company. How do you know that the money

00:38:38.349 --> 00:38:41.070
will go to the developer? Who told you that?

00:38:41.510 --> 00:38:45.869
They don't publish any governance. There is no

00:38:45.869 --> 00:38:50.090
email. There is no name of the project leader.

00:38:50.550 --> 00:38:55.449
There is no disclosure of how the decisions are

00:38:55.449 --> 00:38:58.130
made. There is nothing there. There is zero information.

00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:04.739
So would you say it's a scam then? For me, it's

00:39:04.739 --> 00:39:07.179
a scam. It's a deception. I don't like that.

00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:13.599
Absolutely. Also, Manjaro is a company. Nobody

00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.739
knows that. Manjaro is a company, but it's fine.

00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.840
What is the problem? It's not a problem. It's

00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:22.019
not a question that it's a company. It's what

00:39:22.019 --> 00:39:25.199
the company is doing that's different. Okay,

00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:31.000
okay. Yeah, someone is... benefiting out of this,

00:39:31.139 --> 00:39:33.960
trying to become like a corporate, big corporation,

00:39:34.099 --> 00:39:36.659
and just make money out of free and open source

00:39:36.659 --> 00:39:41.400
software? I think they are two brothers. And

00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.980
they created this distro. And they created this

00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:49.420
distro that is easy to install. It's fine. It's

00:39:49.420 --> 00:39:52.000
a derivative of Ubuntu. It's a derivative from

00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.039
Debian, anyway. The granddaddy, Debian, right?

00:39:55.059 --> 00:40:00.099
The best. Yes. I mean, sorry. Spend 50 quid for

00:40:00.099 --> 00:40:03.519
Zorin OS, you're stupid. Sorry, guys. Fucking

00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:09.059
hell. Come on, guys. Fucking hell. It doesn't...

00:40:09.059 --> 00:40:12.860
We got distros that are easy to use, like Linux

00:40:12.860 --> 00:40:16.960
Mint. It's very easy to use. But does it have

00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:19.519
something special? Does Zorin offer something

00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:21.880
special? There is nothing special. What? Tell

00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:25.539
me what. What is special? I'm asking. I don't

00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:29.199
think so. Come on. What's your special? Come

00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:33.800
on. Okay. Okay. Now, besides... The website is

00:40:33.800 --> 00:40:36.340
special. Oh, yeah? It's a good website. Yeah.

00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.059
Besides Soarin', any other distros that you don't

00:40:40.059 --> 00:40:44.820
like? Well, no. I think behind the distro, there

00:40:44.820 --> 00:40:48.280
is always a person who doesn't say that I don't

00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:53.920
like is wrong. So... I don't have any specific.

00:40:54.250 --> 00:40:57.090
project that i don't like if they do wrong choice

00:40:57.090 --> 00:40:59.429
technical choices that are against unix against

00:40:59.429 --> 00:41:03.969
our philosophy i say i don't like it okay but

00:41:03.969 --> 00:41:08.809
for example i don't like cosmic desktop but it's

00:41:08.809 --> 00:41:12.510
not just my personal taste i think they haven't

00:41:12.510 --> 00:41:15.670
done any innovation the problem of the linux

00:41:15.670 --> 00:41:19.530
environment is the hype they they are obsessed

00:41:19.530 --> 00:41:23.030
with the hype everything is new everything that

00:41:23.030 --> 00:41:28.570
is new is exceptional it's just you know and

00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:33.130
then we got serious projects that are that don't

00:41:33.130 --> 00:41:36.630
have that hype for this so they don't have that

00:41:36.630 --> 00:41:42.610
that hype oh yeah makes sense now we have here

00:41:42.610 --> 00:41:50.940
another um super chat that mac I'm using kitty

00:41:50.940 --> 00:41:54.039
right now. What terminal do you use, by the way?

00:41:54.099 --> 00:41:56.619
Thanks for the donation, Dan Mack. What terminal

00:41:56.619 --> 00:42:03.880
do you use? Me? Yep. Which one I have? Yep. I

00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:08.079
don't care. You don't care? The terminal is just

00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:12.420
a program. I think you need to type a command

00:42:12.420 --> 00:42:18.239
on an interface. Sorry. If it's xterm, xterm,

00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:21.880
yomterminal, or xfcterminal, the problem, I'm

00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.559
trying to learn how to use the terminal, the

00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:28.719
command, it's different. You know, if it's foot,

00:42:28.820 --> 00:42:31.239
I don't know the name, there are probably 1 ,000

00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:37.199
of them. Yeah, there's a lot. I don't misunderstand

00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:42.760
me, so if you do coding, if you do a lot of hack,

00:42:43.289 --> 00:42:46.469
But how many users we got to do this? 1 ,000?

00:42:46.610 --> 00:42:53.210
2 ,000? 3 ,000? Okay. So you just use what comes

00:42:53.210 --> 00:42:56.289
with the distro. There's another controversial

00:42:56.289 --> 00:42:59.070
one right now, and it starts with the letter

00:42:59.070 --> 00:43:01.670
O. What do you think it is? What distro do you

00:43:01.670 --> 00:43:05.909
think that is? Yep. What do you think of that?

00:43:06.929 --> 00:43:10.920
I did the video. That's another. is always linked

00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:13.000
to the political question that we did before.

00:43:13.260 --> 00:43:17.039
Yeah, I get a lot of hate in those videos. Yes.

00:43:17.420 --> 00:43:21.199
If I speak bad about Omar Chee, that means that

00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:25.440
I'm anti -fascist. If I speak good about the

00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:30.599
creator, let's say I am fascist. Sorry. Sorry.

00:43:30.900 --> 00:43:34.860
From the technical point of view, I don't like

00:43:34.860 --> 00:43:37.320
Omar Chee. Sorry. For me, it's just an experiment.

00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:42.369
Bloated. Uh -huh. You say that it's for new users.

00:43:42.429 --> 00:43:47.190
For which type of new user? And then I'm using

00:43:47.190 --> 00:43:50.829
Hyperland now. And, you know, it was extremely

00:43:50.829 --> 00:43:56.469
nice as an experience to start to create my configuration.

00:43:57.789 --> 00:44:03.190
If I find something pre -configured, it doesn't

00:44:03.190 --> 00:44:06.530
make any sense with Hyperland. Because with Hyperland,

00:44:06.550 --> 00:44:09.789
you... You will create the system according to

00:44:09.789 --> 00:44:12.429
your need. That's amazing. Do you know what I

00:44:12.429 --> 00:44:16.550
mean? If I want to scroll up to make a big screen,

00:44:16.710 --> 00:44:19.789
I will do it by myself. I will learn the command.

00:44:20.590 --> 00:44:23.050
I think he makes no sense. It's a nice experiment.

00:44:23.650 --> 00:44:27.590
It's an experiment. It's fine. Regarding the

00:44:27.590 --> 00:44:30.610
creator himself, I think he's just a right person.

00:44:30.909 --> 00:44:33.690
And he got his political view. And I don't have

00:44:33.690 --> 00:44:35.510
nothing against him. I don't think that he's

00:44:35.510 --> 00:44:38.219
a fascist, to be honest. Just a person that I

00:44:38.219 --> 00:44:42.539
think in that way, that we need to accept. Simple

00:44:42.539 --> 00:44:49.320
like that. Yeah, because depending on the technology

00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:53.019
you use in our day and age, it defines you as

00:44:53.019 --> 00:44:55.719
a person. And it's like, yeah, you know. Sorry,

00:44:56.380 --> 00:44:59.260
nobody can define me as a person. I can use whatever

00:44:59.260 --> 00:45:04.769
I want. Iberland, for example. is belonging to

00:45:04.769 --> 00:45:08.929
the faction of the non -wok. So if you use Hyperland,

00:45:09.130 --> 00:45:13.510
you're a non -wok. But Hyperland was not included

00:45:13.510 --> 00:45:17.489
inside the Void repository because the Void guys

00:45:17.489 --> 00:45:21.050
are against him. So if you use Void, you're a

00:45:21.050 --> 00:45:25.510
wok. Fuck you. Sorry. Fuck you. You're right.

00:45:25.690 --> 00:45:31.199
100 % agree. Yeah, because I see comments like

00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:33.960
that in my videos and I'm like... This is ignorance.

00:45:34.380 --> 00:45:37.099
Come on, sorry. What does this have to do with

00:45:37.099 --> 00:45:40.239
technology? You're right. It just divides people

00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:44.219
and it doesn't make sense at all. Yeah. And on

00:45:44.219 --> 00:45:47.099
servers, which destroyer do you say is the king?

00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:52.260
Debian, right? Absolutely. Come on. Yes. There

00:45:52.260 --> 00:45:57.059
is no way. I think Debian. I think it would be

00:45:57.059 --> 00:46:00.320
a nice experiment to... I don't know if someone

00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.400
did. I will try this. I was thinking the other

00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:05.980
day, Slackware on server. Because Slackware is

00:46:05.980 --> 00:46:08.420
quite stable distro. Do you know what I mean?

00:46:09.059 --> 00:46:13.139
I don't know about distros. But you explain.

00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:21.780
Slackware is the queen. If Debian is the king,

00:46:21.980 --> 00:46:26.019
Slackware is the queen. Okay, of stability. It's

00:46:26.019 --> 00:46:30.219
very stable. Yes, it's very Unix -like. It's

00:46:30.219 --> 00:46:33.960
very KISS. Keep it very difficult. But it's honest

00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:36.920
because everything is transparent. It's in your

00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.780
hands. You need to do everything by you. But

00:46:39.780 --> 00:46:43.940
I love it. I'm loving the experience. And it's

00:46:43.940 --> 00:46:46.800
very educative. If you want to learn Linux, you

00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:50.940
must use Slackware. You will learn Linux. You

00:46:50.940 --> 00:46:56.679
learn a lot of things. I was getting mad. Before

00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:00.820
these days, because, you know, I tried to set

00:47:00.820 --> 00:47:09.199
up the webcam. Oh, my God. It was fog was out

00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:13.940
of my head. Trust me, the fog was mad. I was

00:47:13.940 --> 00:47:18.239
not able to do it. But I did a nice configuration

00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:24.159
on the computer. You need time. You need time.

00:47:25.050 --> 00:47:28.750
But, you know, when I finish the setup, I will

00:47:28.750 --> 00:47:31.590
not change the distro. The distro will stay with

00:47:31.590 --> 00:47:37.309
the computer until the computer exists. So, otherwise

00:47:37.309 --> 00:47:40.630
it will be, it makes no sense for me to spend

00:47:40.630 --> 00:47:43.050
one month or two months to do everything and

00:47:43.050 --> 00:47:45.550
then wipe everything, you know? Yep, yep, yep,

00:47:45.570 --> 00:47:49.570
yep. That's actually the reason why I don't switch

00:47:49.570 --> 00:47:53.900
over to Linux, you know, because... Why? Because

00:47:53.900 --> 00:47:55.980
it will take me a lot of time, and I don't have

00:47:55.980 --> 00:47:58.380
the time, and I don't have the energy to do it.

00:47:58.980 --> 00:48:03.599
I'm tired. I don't want to do it. I don't want

00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:06.820
to spend time. You are listening to my experience,

00:48:07.019 --> 00:48:11.880
and I'm sharing the time I tried Blackwell after

00:48:11.880 --> 00:48:15.219
more than 20 years. You don't need to have that

00:48:15.219 --> 00:48:17.019
experience. You can have another experience.

00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:19.420
If you start debbing, you don't lose any time.

00:48:19.579 --> 00:48:21.719
Do you know what I mean? Yeah. that's what i'm

00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:24.280
thinking i have been thinking about debian but

00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.599
i've also been thinking about arch so it's like

00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:30.440
uh you know i will i will say i will suggest

00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.980
you because you are very i think you like stability

00:48:32.980 --> 00:48:37.400
i will suggest you if you want to install a rolling

00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:40.440
release you need to install void if you're looking

00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.880
for stability okay there is no other option no

00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:47.880
other way but do i have obs and stuff to record

00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:53.929
and all that U .F .O .B .S. Yes. I think I don't

00:48:53.929 --> 00:48:57.750
feel it. I don't know. Sorry, before I say yes.

00:48:58.309 --> 00:49:03.250
Might be no, because there is not so much. Now,

00:49:03.250 --> 00:49:07.190
let's take a look at your channel. Let me take

00:49:07.190 --> 00:49:10.989
a look at your channel real quick. Yes. Because

00:49:10.989 --> 00:49:15.329
I noticed that you have 21 ,000 subscribers.

00:49:16.789 --> 00:49:19.829
384 videos. And I thought, you know, this channel

00:49:19.829 --> 00:49:26.250
must be old. Yeah, I thought your channel was

00:49:26.250 --> 00:49:28.409
old because you have a lot of subscribers, a

00:49:28.409 --> 00:49:30.929
lot of videos. Then I came here and I noticed

00:49:30.929 --> 00:49:34.530
that your channel a year and a half ago. And

00:49:34.530 --> 00:49:38.989
I'm like, God damn. How? You know, how? Because

00:49:38.989 --> 00:49:44.199
you do all the writing on these, right? Well,

00:49:44.219 --> 00:49:46.659
what's your secret for YouTube, actually? Because,

00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:50.360
you know, you have a pretty good audience. You

00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:54.119
asked me a question that I don't know how to

00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:57.639
answer. I know that people love me. I receive

00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:00.960
a lot of also private message of guys that follow

00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.179
me. And I really, I'm sorry if I can't answer

00:50:04.179 --> 00:50:09.739
to everybody, but trust me, this channel is like,

00:50:09.900 --> 00:50:13.969
it's a big effort for me now. because I am working

00:50:13.969 --> 00:50:18.150
10 hours per day for four days per week and all

00:50:18.150 --> 00:50:21.610
the rest is the channel. There is nothing else.

00:50:21.889 --> 00:50:25.449
Nothing else. My family and the channel. Nothing

00:50:25.449 --> 00:50:29.030
else. It's a big effort. Trust me. It's a huge

00:50:29.030 --> 00:50:33.429
sacrifice. And also the way I create the video

00:50:33.429 --> 00:50:37.690
is quite more difficult because you open your

00:50:37.690 --> 00:50:39.570
microphone, you open your camera, you can start

00:50:39.570 --> 00:50:43.280
to speak. I need to write my script. Yeah. And

00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:46.780
you need to find the B -roll, right? The videos.

00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:53.639
For example, now I'm working on three videos,

00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:57.980
okay? The history of wallpaper and the history

00:50:57.980 --> 00:51:02.920
of troll. And, you know, I'm online, always on

00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:08.460
Zen browser to find, read old posts of Reddit,

00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:14.090
look for documentation. Sometimes it is exhausting

00:51:14.090 --> 00:51:21.050
because you need to do deep research. Deep, deep

00:51:21.050 --> 00:51:28.170
research. And have you felt burned out of doing

00:51:28.170 --> 00:51:31.550
this? Because making videos is not easy. Yes.

00:51:31.550 --> 00:51:36.789
Yes. Sometimes, yes. I feel it. It's difficult.

00:51:37.110 --> 00:51:41.710
Yes. Sometimes I got probably... let me check,

00:51:41.949 --> 00:51:45.630
20 videos that I will never be public, because

00:51:45.630 --> 00:51:48.690
at one point you think that nothing is enough.

00:51:48.989 --> 00:51:51.929
You have this problem. You think, okay, this

00:51:51.929 --> 00:51:54.510
video is not good. I will not publish now. This

00:51:54.510 --> 00:51:58.389
video, no, I will publish later. And then, now

00:51:58.389 --> 00:52:04.409
I start to say, don't care. Just publish. Some

00:52:04.409 --> 00:52:08.269
videos are very light, but some videos are very

00:52:08.269 --> 00:52:16.130
controversial. But I want to take care of them

00:52:16.130 --> 00:52:19.309
before to make it public. Do you know what I

00:52:19.309 --> 00:52:22.309
mean? I don't want to say bullshit, to be honest.

00:52:23.409 --> 00:52:26.449
Especially when you have a big audience. I think

00:52:26.449 --> 00:52:28.809
it's important that you at least you do more

00:52:28.809 --> 00:52:32.769
than one, two or three check. To think what you

00:52:32.769 --> 00:52:36.030
say. Yeah, definitely. To think what you say.

00:52:36.429 --> 00:52:40.070
Yes. Do you want to share with us about your

00:52:40.070 --> 00:52:44.329
background, studies, life? Whatever you want

00:52:44.329 --> 00:52:47.110
to share. What do you want to keep private? Whatever

00:52:47.110 --> 00:52:53.190
you want to share with us. I don't have a scientific

00:52:53.190 --> 00:52:56.650
background. I studied in the college Latin and

00:52:56.650 --> 00:53:00.349
Greek. And then I went in the history in university

00:53:00.349 --> 00:53:04.409
for a lawyer. I was almost a lawyer. And then

00:53:04.409 --> 00:53:08.309
something in my life changed and I totally changed

00:53:08.309 --> 00:53:12.429
field. I went in the healthcare. I work for the

00:53:12.429 --> 00:53:14.170
healthcare. That's all. That's my background.

00:53:14.869 --> 00:53:22.050
More or less. Okay. Okay. I'm not a scientific

00:53:22.050 --> 00:53:24.429
person. I'm much more humanistic. My big passion

00:53:24.429 --> 00:53:28.969
are history, philosophy, geography. Oh, I see.

00:53:29.090 --> 00:53:32.190
Okay. I also see that your videos, you don't

00:53:32.190 --> 00:53:35.440
have any... um sponsorships do you have any thoughts

00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.280
on that like ads on videos when people contact

00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:40.539
you if you want to promote something and you

00:53:40.539 --> 00:53:45.639
know any thoughts also is also right on my contact

00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:49.840
form is very explicit i will not accept any kind

00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.380
of sponsorship even for one million of dollars

00:53:52.380 --> 00:53:57.300
i think this is a very clear message even that

00:53:57.300 --> 00:54:00.980
and probably a lot of youtuber will let me i

00:54:00.980 --> 00:54:05.840
receive every day Proposal for sponsorship. Just

00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.000
today I received a proposal of sponsorship from,

00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:12.719
what's the name? I don't say the company anyway,

00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:16.239
but a company that creates some servers and stuff.

00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:22.659
But I even don't answer. I don't, absolutely

00:54:22.659 --> 00:54:25.900
against the sponsorship. I think that I did a

00:54:25.900 --> 00:54:30.400
bond with my, a deal with my audience. That what

00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:33.460
I'm saying is free. I'm independent. They are

00:54:33.460 --> 00:54:35.679
there because they know that they listen to me.

00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:38.739
Not because someone paid me. Nobody will pay

00:54:38.739 --> 00:54:42.159
me. Nobody. What I'm saying is what I want to

00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.539
say. That's an important... Because, you know,

00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:50.960
YouTube has begun to commercialize too much.

00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:57.639
We don't have three voices. If Framework gives

00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:02.559
me a laptop, okay, to review. Do you think that

00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:06.880
next year I will do a negative review? Come on.

00:55:07.260 --> 00:55:10.320
I will not. They give to me 1 ,000 pounds or

00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:13.099
2 ,000 pounds of laptop. I will not. But this

00:55:13.099 --> 00:55:15.739
affects my freedom, and this is very important

00:55:15.739 --> 00:55:18.980
for me. My intellectual freedom is essential.

00:55:21.980 --> 00:55:25.039
Absolutely. I'll never ask, I'll never, never,

00:55:25.179 --> 00:55:28.760
never accept any kind of sponsorship, even for

00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:31.940
one million dollars. You think you say like that.

00:55:32.099 --> 00:55:34.260
If someone contact me and give me $1 million,

00:55:34.400 --> 00:55:41.199
I will not accept. You need to have some value.

00:55:41.260 --> 00:55:43.340
If you have the value, you don't care about the

00:55:43.340 --> 00:55:49.659
money. Okay. I mean, we can do both things. I

00:55:49.659 --> 00:55:52.579
am on YouTube because I made money from YouTube.

00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:58.139
I'm not hypocrite. I think it should be a balance.

00:55:58.699 --> 00:56:02.679
Do you know what I mean? It's not too much. Sometimes

00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:09.599
some channels are just shopping. Give me a like,

00:56:09.739 --> 00:56:13.480
subscribe, offer me a coffee. Come on. Sorry.

00:56:13.579 --> 00:56:16.559
Can you believe you're going to a lawyer in the

00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:19.900
big office? Yes. Pay the parcel for $1 ,000.

00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:23.280
And the lawyer told you, can you buy me a coffee?

00:56:23.420 --> 00:56:28.630
Fuck you. Sorry. Sorry. Why? Please, guys. Are

00:56:28.630 --> 00:56:32.630
you talking about me? Hold on. No, no. I don't

00:56:32.630 --> 00:56:34.510
talk about you. I talk in general. I'm never

00:56:34.510 --> 00:56:38.969
about you. I'm playing. I just needed to charge

00:56:38.969 --> 00:56:44.010
my phone. As a YouTuber... I say to the guys

00:56:44.010 --> 00:56:48.190
on my channel, guys, spend that money for you.

00:56:48.309 --> 00:56:52.070
Go on a bench, buy the coffee for you, and enjoy

00:56:52.070 --> 00:56:57.960
life. Don't worry about me. I'm okay. As a content

00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:01.619
creator or YouTuber, whatever you want to call

00:57:01.619 --> 00:57:05.519
it, do you still watch YouTube? That's a big

00:57:05.519 --> 00:57:09.380
problem. No. Now, let me tell you what happened

00:57:09.380 --> 00:57:11.679
with me. I used to watch YouTube a lot in the

00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:15.079
past. And I used to follow all these tech channels

00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:17.159
and I loved it, you know. But when I started

00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.659
doing YouTube, I understood what the game was.

00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.199
And I know what everyone is behind, you know.

00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:24.500
They just want the likes. They just want the

00:57:24.500 --> 00:57:28.789
money. And when I watch a video now, I just think

00:57:28.789 --> 00:57:32.989
he just wants me to watch it. And he engineered

00:57:32.989 --> 00:57:35.829
the video so that I click on it and I watch it.

00:57:35.889 --> 00:57:39.369
So I don't enjoy YouTube anymore. Did that happen

00:57:39.369 --> 00:57:46.530
to you? I call this the, you know, we went through

00:57:46.530 --> 00:57:49.110
different phases of Internet. There was the free

00:57:49.110 --> 00:57:51.670
world, the social world of Internet. Now it's

00:57:51.670 --> 00:57:55.820
the algorithm Internet. Everything is created.

00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.380
Also the video. I know very well when I create

00:57:59.380 --> 00:58:02.860
a video that will never reach 1 ,000 views. I

00:58:02.860 --> 00:58:07.320
know. I know the topic. Some topic is pointless

00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.440
that you use it. If you look at my channel, I

00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:18.760
got three videos above 100 ,000 views. And the

00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:21.440
only one that is acceptable is the history of

00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:24.170
Ubuntu. is the history of Ubuntu. It's a nice

00:58:24.170 --> 00:58:26.690
video, I think. But the other videos, to be honest,

00:58:26.769 --> 00:58:29.250
I feel shy. When I watch it, I say, fuck, now

00:58:29.250 --> 00:58:32.769
it's possible. I get mad. Now it's possible.

00:58:33.610 --> 00:58:38.989
Why? They don't give me the chance to be seen

00:58:38.989 --> 00:58:42.349
by thousands of people with my best video and

00:58:42.349 --> 00:58:45.590
not with the shit video that I create. Which

00:58:45.590 --> 00:58:49.969
one? This one? Which one is this one? The rise

00:58:49.969 --> 00:58:53.869
and fall of Linux for human beings. I think this

00:58:53.869 --> 00:58:56.550
is a nice video. It speaks about the history

00:58:56.550 --> 00:59:00.010
of Ubuntu. But the history of WinBot is a fucking

00:59:00.010 --> 00:59:04.269
problem. You know, I mean, if it's 1 ,000 or

00:59:04.269 --> 00:59:08.909
10K, for me, it doesn't matter. It's not so relevant.

00:59:09.230 --> 00:59:12.789
You need to look for the big tech life. This

00:59:12.789 --> 00:59:16.030
is a nice video. It was a surprise for me. Oh,

00:59:16.030 --> 00:59:18.530
okay. I love this video. The big decline. I love

00:59:18.530 --> 00:59:24.150
it. And then there are a lot of nice videos that

00:59:24.150 --> 00:59:27.090
have very few views. Trust me. Yeah. They deserve

00:59:27.090 --> 00:59:30.250
more. Happens to me as well all the time. So

00:59:30.250 --> 00:59:33.409
do you enjoy watching YouTube then or not anymore?

00:59:33.670 --> 00:59:37.690
I enjoy watching just very few YouTubers. And

00:59:37.690 --> 00:59:42.380
thanks, Lord, I got... I think the two best YouTubers

00:59:42.380 --> 00:59:46.380
in the world are Italians. So I watch them. Davey504.

00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:50.300
Sorry? Have you ever watched Davey504? He's a

00:59:50.300 --> 00:59:57.239
bass player. Davey504, no? No. But I want to

00:59:57.239 --> 01:00:02.380
mention them because I think they are... One

01:00:02.380 --> 01:00:07.480
is Ricardo Palombo. He speaks about technology

01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:12.510
and computers. Let me see. Palombo, you said,

01:00:12.550 --> 01:00:16.550
right? Ricardo Palombo is a great guy. He's amazing.

01:00:16.929 --> 01:00:22.389
He's very competent. You can feel the love about

01:00:22.389 --> 01:00:26.989
the technology and everything. Yes, he's a nice

01:00:26.989 --> 01:00:37.320
guy. He's very nerdy on hardware as well. And

01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.719
another one is Salvatore Sanfilippo is the creator

01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:43.900
of Redis. That is another high -level channel.

01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:48.179
He deserves one million of subscribers. Sanfilippo,

01:00:48.179 --> 01:00:51.920
like this, probably? This one? Yes, it's him.

01:00:52.019 --> 01:00:54.880
Yes. He's the creator of Redis. And, you know,

01:00:54.980 --> 01:00:58.719
he speaks about artificial intelligence. He uses

01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:04.849
very deep topics on a high level. and i watch

01:01:04.849 --> 01:01:08.150
and i enjoy just watching i rarely comment because

01:01:08.150 --> 01:01:11.949
i you know when you find something that is very

01:01:11.949 --> 01:01:17.050
high in the qualities you don't want to destroy

01:01:17.050 --> 01:01:25.829
with your comments yes genuine channels okay

01:01:25.829 --> 01:01:31.409
okay interesting i didn't know about these Okay.

01:01:31.469 --> 01:01:35.329
Yes. These guys, you know, sometimes they do

01:01:35.329 --> 01:01:38.929
videos in English as well. Oh, so he speaks in

01:01:38.929 --> 01:01:42.710
Italian in his videos mainly then, right? Yes.

01:01:42.809 --> 01:01:46.429
Yes. Yes. Oh, okay. But some of them are in English.

01:01:46.690 --> 01:01:49.969
Okay. Well, Italian and Spanish sound kind of

01:01:49.969 --> 01:01:53.289
similar, but I will not understand. Yeah. No.

01:01:54.409 --> 01:02:01.670
Yeah. We have another super chat here. Let me

01:02:01.670 --> 01:02:05.170
switch here. That's me that can eat away the

01:02:05.170 --> 01:02:08.969
money. Yeah, that's bad for you, I think. Though,

01:02:09.110 --> 01:02:13.489
buying myself a coffee says, Ruman Intellectual

01:02:13.489 --> 01:02:17.929
Freedom, $19 .99. Really appreciate that, Ruman.

01:02:18.070 --> 01:02:24.309
That's my CEO right there. Okay. Okay. What are

01:02:24.309 --> 01:02:31.269
your thoughts on NixOS? Wait, I want to tell

01:02:31.269 --> 01:02:33.010
you another thing. I need to go to the toilet.

01:02:33.309 --> 01:02:36.750
Okay, yeah, go. I need three seconds. Okay, yeah,

01:02:36.769 --> 01:02:48.929
it's fine. What's up, chat? Why is he wearing

01:02:48.929 --> 01:02:54.949
a mask? Is someone wondering why is you wearing

01:02:54.949 --> 01:02:58.320
a mask? Like, what is this? You guys remember

01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:06.739
the Pulp Fiction movie? No? Yeah. Man, I should

01:03:06.739 --> 01:03:10.000
have gone as well. No, because I haven't finished

01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:12.980
my water yet, you know? So once I finish this,

01:03:13.179 --> 01:03:16.480
I have an hour and I need to go like an old man.

01:03:17.699 --> 01:03:20.639
No, not an hour, two hours, three hours. I don't

01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.280
know. Let's see. Where's the Pulp Fiction scene

01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:41.889
that I'm trying to look for? Man. What is that

01:03:41.889 --> 01:03:55.309
called? Mask? Is this what is going on in the

01:03:55.309 --> 01:04:05.309
channel? Oh, my God. Now, now, Chad is asking.

01:04:05.309 --> 01:04:10.750
Oh, my God. Now, you, Chad is asking, like, is

01:04:10.750 --> 01:04:12.949
this what's going on? Have you watched this movie,

01:04:13.130 --> 01:04:17.510
Pulp Fiction? Pulp Fiction, yes. Is this what's

01:04:17.510 --> 01:04:20.469
happening in the channel right now? Because it

01:04:20.469 --> 01:04:26.489
feels like it, you know? What's up? what's up

01:04:26.489 --> 01:04:34.469
with the mask what i think can i say is software

01:04:34.469 --> 01:04:42.429
is a proprietary garbage next next is a nice

01:04:42.429 --> 01:04:46.289
pro nice nice project i tried so it's totally

01:04:46.289 --> 01:04:49.170
different from the other distro you you do everything

01:04:49.170 --> 01:04:53.440
on your configuration files and also you have

01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:55.960
something like that you recover your system is

01:04:55.960 --> 01:05:02.340
a rollback system yeah but it's very it's very

01:05:02.340 --> 01:05:05.539
nice project i think it's not for everybody but

01:05:05.539 --> 01:05:09.039
it's very interesting you know because there

01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:11.760
are a lot of this so that they are the same with

01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:15.500
each other and this one is got his way okay he

01:05:15.500 --> 01:05:18.119
deserves to exist he deserves to exist i will

01:05:18.119 --> 01:05:23.260
say okay now also is an answer Okay, now the

01:05:23.260 --> 01:05:27.260
honest opinion, please. Oh, no, that's the honest

01:05:27.260 --> 01:05:29.699
opinion. That's the honest opinion, yes. Oh,

01:05:29.699 --> 01:05:33.239
no, it's really what I think. I don't have mercy

01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:38.579
for nobody. So don't worry. If I think something,

01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:43.780
I will say. Okay. I don't like that factness.

01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:49.219
You know, I was thinking that you... that you

01:05:49.219 --> 01:05:52.159
invite YouTubers to speak. Until now, you invite

01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:56.480
just YouTubers that I like. They are very nice

01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:59.159
guys. Do you know what I mean? So very polite,

01:05:59.360 --> 01:06:05.139
very kind guys. So I'm sorry that sounds... It

01:06:05.139 --> 01:06:07.800
is what it is. What do you think about the queen?

01:06:08.059 --> 01:06:12.139
The queen, the goat, Andrea Borman? That's the

01:06:12.139 --> 01:06:23.280
myth. She's amazing. She's amazing. Yes, she

01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:28.559
is. She is. Yeah, well done. Because my keyboard,

01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:30.179
I don't know what's happening to my keyboard

01:06:30.179 --> 01:06:32.099
today. It doesn't want to work. It's me. It's

01:06:32.099 --> 01:06:35.760
the mask. Yeah, yeah. Why the mask, though? Do

01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:41.340
you want to share with us why the mask? Because

01:06:41.340 --> 01:06:45.869
my... I take care about my privacy, my identity.

01:06:46.030 --> 01:06:52.329
I don't want to show I am online. I think if

01:06:52.329 --> 01:06:55.469
you are, you can be a target about a lot of things.

01:06:56.349 --> 01:07:02.110
Also, you know, I think when you show your face,

01:07:02.190 --> 01:07:07.449
you have a filter as well. You cannot say whatever

01:07:07.449 --> 01:07:12.789
you think. Because you show your face, your family,

01:07:12.889 --> 01:07:16.329
what you, your friends, what you, it's different.

01:07:16.630 --> 01:07:20.489
You have to hold back. Yes, I think it's coherent

01:07:20.489 --> 01:07:23.070
with the message of my channel, you know? I speak

01:07:23.070 --> 01:07:28.250
about digital freedom and I speak about the system

01:07:28.250 --> 01:07:30.909
of control against the system of control. It

01:07:30.909 --> 01:07:36.670
makes sense, absolutely. Okay. It's not something

01:07:36.670 --> 01:07:39.389
unexpected if you watch my video to see me in

01:07:39.389 --> 01:07:44.039
this way. Sorry. Okay. What are your thoughts?

01:07:44.219 --> 01:07:46.739
Something controversial. What are your thoughts

01:07:46.739 --> 01:07:53.980
on macOS? Is Linux became mainstream? Do you

01:07:53.980 --> 01:07:57.159
want the Linux for everybody? You already have

01:07:57.159 --> 01:08:03.579
it. It's Unix macOS. It's better than BSD. So

01:08:03.579 --> 01:08:08.210
it's Unix. I'm not sure. But I think he got a

01:08:08.210 --> 01:08:10.710
certification, a Unix certification as well.

01:08:10.869 --> 01:08:16.229
Yes, it is. They are very similar systems. It's

01:08:16.229 --> 01:08:21.329
just a mainstream system. What the people...

01:08:21.329 --> 01:08:25.449
Because now there is this big trend of Linux.

01:08:26.130 --> 01:08:28.449
They think that Linux will become mainstream.

01:08:29.010 --> 01:08:31.609
Linux will never become mainstream. It's not

01:08:31.609 --> 01:08:34.630
mainstream. It's not for your grandma. It's not

01:08:34.630 --> 01:08:37.810
for your mom. Linux is for people that want to

01:08:37.810 --> 01:08:40.750
understand, that believe in a specific way of

01:08:40.750 --> 01:08:44.329
technology. It's a philosophy. It's open source.

01:08:44.649 --> 01:08:47.909
It's ability to watch, to look inside the code.

01:08:48.989 --> 01:08:52.270
And this idea to change Linux in something that

01:08:52.270 --> 01:08:56.750
is not Linux, I don't agree with that. So what

01:08:56.750 --> 01:09:01.590
I think, I actually use OS X, I think, like during

01:09:01.590 --> 01:09:08.529
2009 and 2011, something like that. Well, for

01:09:08.529 --> 01:09:13.310
the user interface, it's amazing. It's a masterpiece.

01:09:13.829 --> 01:09:17.670
If someone says something that is different,

01:09:17.789 --> 01:09:23.010
he doesn't understand about user interface. Aqua's

01:09:23.010 --> 01:09:28.729
interface is a milestone. It's the top level.

01:09:29.229 --> 01:09:31.729
But do you know what they did now? How is your

01:09:31.729 --> 01:09:36.250
control center now? Oh, I didn't upgrade to the

01:09:36.250 --> 01:09:39.069
newest one. Don't, please. Keep the old one.

01:09:39.409 --> 01:09:43.930
You know, I'm mad for these things because that

01:09:43.930 --> 01:09:50.350
type of control center is an archetype. It works.

01:09:50.529 --> 01:09:54.430
It's like that. And why are you going to change?

01:09:55.090 --> 01:09:56.989
It makes no sense. And you mean with the new

01:09:56.989 --> 01:09:59.989
version with the glassy one, right? No, no, no,

01:10:00.050 --> 01:10:03.250
no. I mean the disposition of the... of the elements

01:10:03.250 --> 01:10:06.810
are totally different now the old the old control

01:10:06.810 --> 01:10:13.890
center is was very simple and i think it was

01:10:13.890 --> 01:10:19.409
a mistake to change it in my opinion yeah what

01:10:19.409 --> 01:10:21.569
version do you know what version do you you have

01:10:21.569 --> 01:10:28.670
mac os 26 or is it i i think that i use maverick

01:10:28.670 --> 01:10:31.640
probably I'm not sure. That was like 10 years,

01:10:31.659 --> 01:10:33.560
more than 10 years ago. Oh, I see. No, 10 years

01:10:33.560 --> 01:10:36.239
ago. Okay, okay, okay. It was 10 years ago. Okay.

01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:38.640
And do you have any thoughts on the hardware,

01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:41.680
on the Apple hardware? Not the Intel ones, not

01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:45.659
the Intel ones, but the new M series. Yeah, it's

01:10:45.659 --> 01:10:47.880
the best one. Come on. What they did with the

01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:51.340
M1 is something that is destroy everything. We

01:10:51.340 --> 01:10:53.899
still didn't realize what they did. They did

01:10:53.899 --> 01:10:58.329
something great. Whoa. If I don't say that, I

01:10:58.329 --> 01:11:01.609
will not understand about technology. What they

01:11:01.609 --> 01:11:06.670
did with the M1, with the Apple M1, with the

01:11:06.670 --> 01:11:11.869
silicon, is something unbelievable, in my opinion.

01:11:12.010 --> 01:11:20.609
They reach a balance between durability of battery,

01:11:20.869 --> 01:11:25.350
performance, durability of the hardware, design.

01:11:26.010 --> 01:11:33.369
That is still now. But this Lenovo X1, okay,

01:11:33.470 --> 01:11:38.050
is the nano version, okay? I did some hack to

01:11:38.050 --> 01:11:41.529
try to make the battery more efficient, but it

01:11:41.529 --> 01:11:47.569
will last three hours, four hours. I think with

01:11:47.569 --> 01:11:51.989
an Apple, you can stay for 20 hours. Yeah, they

01:11:51.989 --> 01:11:55.819
did something great. It's still now. Still now,

01:11:55.979 --> 01:11:59.279
I saw some video of some guys, because now they

01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:04.439
are trying to move the X -Dragon on Windows.

01:12:05.460 --> 01:12:09.579
I think Ubuntu got a version for the Snapdragon,

01:12:10.020 --> 01:12:13.619
but they are still not at the same level. They're

01:12:13.619 --> 01:12:16.220
still not there. I'm waiting on that. I'm waiting

01:12:16.220 --> 01:12:19.859
on ARM to get to Linux, you know, and see what

01:12:19.859 --> 01:12:22.899
Linux will do with that architecture. I think

01:12:22.899 --> 01:12:26.079
it will be great. I think we will have a lot

01:12:26.079 --> 01:12:30.319
of fun because also RISC -V, it will be very

01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:33.399
interesting. I'm looking for that as well. I'm

01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:36.260
very obsessed about that. I think it will be

01:12:36.260 --> 01:12:42.649
the next big thing. Yeah, definitely. And Windows,

01:12:42.909 --> 01:12:47.649
what do you think about Windows? It's just an

01:12:47.649 --> 01:12:57.829
overdrive system carried on by Microsoft. I cannot

01:12:57.829 --> 01:13:00.789
tell you what I think, sorry. Change question.

01:13:02.430 --> 01:13:06.550
Well, no, of course, this is just a stereotype,

01:13:06.789 --> 01:13:13.569
but I'm a Linux user, you know. It's a decent

01:13:13.569 --> 01:13:17.210
operating system. It works. It's easy to use.

01:13:19.810 --> 01:13:24.329
But I want to be very gentle. Trust me. I don't

01:13:24.329 --> 01:13:26.829
want to sound like the classic Linux user that

01:13:26.829 --> 01:13:31.130
speaks against Windows. I don't like it. And

01:13:31.130 --> 01:13:34.909
when I do video, of course, what they did with

01:13:34.909 --> 01:13:38.310
Windows 11 was just a gift to Linux and other

01:13:38.310 --> 01:13:46.029
systems. They make a lot of others to be old

01:13:46.029 --> 01:13:48.909
and they also they spare you. And, you know,

01:13:49.010 --> 01:13:53.949
I think the ethical aspect of the operating system

01:13:53.949 --> 01:13:59.329
is important because we now we got private life,

01:13:59.529 --> 01:14:04.770
but also digital life. And in our digital technological

01:14:04.770 --> 01:14:09.659
life, we put a lot of our private life. I mean,

01:14:09.739 --> 01:14:13.239
in the computer, we use a lot of private photo,

01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:18.460
private details, bunker details, a lot of things.

01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:23.359
And if they spy you, they control you. Your life

01:14:23.359 --> 01:14:27.779
can be in the hands of someone else. That's why

01:14:27.779 --> 01:14:29.960
it's important to don't use proprietary system.

01:14:31.699 --> 01:14:37.829
Okay. Now, I also... I want to talk about the

01:14:37.829 --> 01:14:43.949
free word in the free and open source community

01:14:43.949 --> 01:14:48.149
because people take the free part seriously,

01:14:48.470 --> 01:14:51.689
too seriously, right? Because all of these applications

01:14:51.689 --> 01:14:54.850
are developed by someone that puts their time,

01:14:54.949 --> 01:14:59.170
effort, life on them, right? You hear all the

01:14:59.170 --> 01:15:01.409
people saying, but it's free and open source.

01:15:01.590 --> 01:15:03.750
I don't have to pay for anything. It's free.

01:15:04.189 --> 01:15:06.770
That's the problem. I don't have to donate, you

01:15:06.770 --> 01:15:10.170
know. There's someone that pays the price, right?

01:15:10.270 --> 01:15:12.630
There's someone, and it's usually who? The developer,

01:15:12.789 --> 01:15:15.789
right? They have to work for a big corporation

01:15:15.789 --> 01:15:18.550
to sustain themselves and work on open source

01:15:18.550 --> 01:15:22.350
when they have time. Thoughts, solutions? What

01:15:22.350 --> 01:15:26.239
do you want to share with us about that? that's

01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:30.680
part of unfortunately it's it's um you know i'm

01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:35.140
trying to on my channel as well to every time

01:15:35.140 --> 01:15:40.359
i'm doing when i did the video of zory no s i

01:15:40.359 --> 01:15:47.180
donate 50 pounds to kdn life with this video

01:15:47.180 --> 01:15:53.600
i take the opportunity to donate as well being

01:15:54.409 --> 01:15:56.930
Using open source software, meaning being part

01:15:56.930 --> 01:15:59.590
of a community, is not just using the software.

01:16:00.649 --> 01:16:05.090
It's not free. It's free, but nothing is free

01:16:05.090 --> 01:16:10.630
for nothing. You need also to buy a prize. It

01:16:10.630 --> 01:16:13.149
can be a good prize or a bad prize. It depends

01:16:13.149 --> 01:16:18.409
on you. We cannot just receive and receive. We

01:16:18.409 --> 01:16:22.569
can also give. It's important to give. I cannot

01:16:22.569 --> 01:16:27.430
just get and get. So, I mean, all of my videos

01:16:27.430 --> 01:16:30.010
speak about open source project. And listen,

01:16:30.270 --> 01:16:33.229
I'm very lucky because I think there is material

01:16:33.229 --> 01:16:37.510
for three lives to create with you. Like a million.

01:16:38.109 --> 01:16:40.750
You know what I mean? It's an amazing world.

01:16:40.890 --> 01:16:47.609
It's full of projects. And I think we, we, they

01:16:47.609 --> 01:16:51.369
deserve a lot, at least for me. They give me

01:16:51.369 --> 01:16:54.710
a system. They give freedom. They keep my data

01:16:54.710 --> 01:17:00.130
safe. And a lot of tools. All of them free. I

01:17:00.130 --> 01:17:03.029
need to give something. Come on. How you cannot

01:17:03.029 --> 01:17:05.510
give? If you don't give, you're wrong. The system

01:17:05.510 --> 01:17:07.869
will collapse. That's why it's important for

01:17:07.869 --> 01:17:10.869
us. That's why I'm trying to, you know, when

01:17:10.869 --> 01:17:15.090
you... It's not ontological correct to speak

01:17:15.090 --> 01:17:18.949
bad about the other YouTubers. You know? But

01:17:18.949 --> 01:17:21.859
I'm trying to... I'm trying to force this on

01:17:21.859 --> 01:17:27.960
my channel to like make a claim of the channel

01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:31.079
to donate, donate, donate. I also donate part

01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:34.739
of my AdSense revenue to an open source project.

01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:37.899
It's important. Otherwise the system sooner or

01:17:37.899 --> 01:17:41.420
later will collapse. We need to learn. Consider

01:17:41.420 --> 01:17:43.899
that on my server I got just open source project

01:17:43.899 --> 01:17:49.420
and I got my I'm free of Google. i got my search

01:17:49.420 --> 01:17:53.760
engine i got my email i got my netflix i got

01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:57.340
my google photo that is open sources normal one

01:17:57.340 --> 01:18:02.279
photo is it you know emic no no it's just something

01:18:02.279 --> 01:18:05.380
like google photo even better like manager for

01:18:05.380 --> 01:18:07.359
the next cloud something like something like

01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:12.380
next cloud no no next cloud is a is a cloud service

01:18:12.380 --> 01:18:17.430
it's a cloud application IMIC is, I cannot share

01:18:17.430 --> 01:18:20.390
with you the screen because I'm here. You can

01:18:20.390 --> 01:18:27.729
check. Let me see. IMIC. IMIC. IMIC. I see it

01:18:27.729 --> 01:18:30.529
here. Hold on. Let me see. Let me switch here.

01:18:30.930 --> 01:18:33.050
This one? That's very interesting. Yeah, you

01:18:33.050 --> 01:18:35.770
can do it as well because it's on Docker, yes.

01:18:36.369 --> 01:18:39.729
Exactly, this one. Oh. And, you know, it's very

01:18:39.729 --> 01:18:43.109
easy to sync with all of the devices, also iPhone,

01:18:43.289 --> 01:18:47.659
Android. And you are totally free of Google Photo.

01:18:48.039 --> 01:18:52.260
Oh, and you say that you can run it as a Docker

01:18:52.260 --> 01:18:56.060
image. That's another story because I get mad

01:18:56.060 --> 01:19:00.220
now. But anyway. Why? Why do you get mad? No,

01:19:00.539 --> 01:19:03.119
I explain. Because I'm not there to update every

01:19:03.119 --> 01:19:07.220
second. I did an update after three months and

01:19:07.220 --> 01:19:12.060
they did a big change on the database. And everything

01:19:12.060 --> 01:19:15.630
is now... I need to set up. I need time now.

01:19:16.109 --> 01:19:20.390
Okay. Also, I got Jellyfin is another amazing

01:19:20.390 --> 01:19:23.270
project. I used that one. Yep. It was Jellyfin.

01:19:23.270 --> 01:19:26.430
Oh my God. Because you know, I love movie. Yeah.

01:19:26.470 --> 01:19:30.750
I love movie. Oh my God. I'm, I watch more than

01:19:30.750 --> 01:19:33.029
10 ,000 movies. So I'm obsessed about movies.

01:19:33.170 --> 01:19:38.710
So for me, Jellyfin is like very important. Yes.

01:19:38.949 --> 01:19:45.930
And also I got the, Serenix is the name. Serenix,

01:19:46.029 --> 01:19:47.630
I don't know how to pronounce it, to be honest.

01:19:49.670 --> 01:19:53.310
What is it? It's like a search engine, open source

01:19:53.310 --> 01:19:56.250
search engine. Let me say that. The names are

01:19:56.250 --> 01:20:02.050
horrible to pronounce. Yeah, Linux names. No,

01:20:02.229 --> 01:20:08.310
it's Sierra Echo Alpha Romeo X -Ray Nano Gamma.

01:20:08.409 --> 01:20:12.279
Oh, I think I found it. Let's see. yeah this

01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:19.399
one it's very nice yes yes it is yes it's a meta

01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:22.899
search engine you can use inside you can use

01:20:22.899 --> 01:20:28.119
different search engine with one interface now

01:20:28.119 --> 01:20:32.800
you also mentioned that you have your own mail

01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:37.539
server isn't that too complicated to maintain

01:20:39.130 --> 01:20:42.470
Listen, it's one of the most... I didn't know

01:20:42.470 --> 01:20:46.989
that it was so complicated. And when I read that

01:20:46.989 --> 01:20:51.569
the email is free, that everybody can do the

01:20:51.569 --> 01:20:55.310
email, that's not true. I'm sorry to penalize

01:20:55.310 --> 01:20:58.670
your video, because I'm speaking about Google,

01:20:58.850 --> 01:21:01.350
because this video will be another shadow now.

01:21:02.810 --> 01:21:10.109
Yes, 100%. But they have a lot of filter. You

01:21:10.109 --> 01:21:11.989
need to set up a lot of things and they are in

01:21:11.989 --> 01:21:15.689
control of Outlook and Google. A lot of protocol

01:21:15.689 --> 01:21:19.850
and it's very difficult to do it. Yes, it's extremely

01:21:19.850 --> 01:21:23.090
difficult. It's not free at all. It's not free

01:21:23.090 --> 01:21:25.949
at all. If they decide that you are spam, you

01:21:25.949 --> 01:21:30.210
don't have any money. You don't have no one to

01:21:30.210 --> 01:21:33.050
represent you and you're basically screwed, right?

01:21:33.970 --> 01:21:39.970
Yes. Yes. Now, going back to all of these projects

01:21:39.970 --> 01:21:43.069
that we use open source, right? Because the only

01:21:43.069 --> 01:21:45.430
thing that's stuck in the community is free,

01:21:45.550 --> 01:21:47.149
free, free. And that's what everyone repeats.

01:21:47.369 --> 01:21:48.989
Free, free, free. You don't need to pay anything.

01:21:49.130 --> 01:21:51.550
It's free, free, free. Free in the words. Yes.

01:21:51.569 --> 01:21:55.270
But not free for the developer because he's leaving

01:21:55.270 --> 01:21:59.409
his bag there. It's live. So how can we change

01:21:59.409 --> 01:22:02.550
that? What can we do? You know, you need to donate

01:22:02.550 --> 01:22:08.439
a lot. I think we should start to. Payment. So

01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:13.640
the culture that should be free of price is wrong.

01:22:14.640 --> 01:22:18.000
Making payment, sorry, I will be happy to pay

01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:23.380
to Emic or Jellyfin. Of course, not 25 pounds

01:22:23.380 --> 01:22:28.500
per year. Oh, but how do you think that open

01:22:28.500 --> 01:22:30.460
source community would take that? Let's say that

01:22:30.460 --> 01:22:33.399
Jellyfin comes tomorrow. What is the problem?

01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:37.960
Now, for example, Jellyfin is very popular. It's

01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:42.840
an amazing project. Maybe it's just me and you.

01:22:43.420 --> 01:22:45.500
But I think you will pay as well. You will be

01:22:45.500 --> 01:22:49.479
happy to pay. Because, you know, the donation,

01:22:49.699 --> 01:22:55.039
you donate to one project. But then you cannot

01:22:55.039 --> 01:22:57.600
donate to everything. You focus on something.

01:22:58.659 --> 01:23:02.220
It will be easier for me to pay. I will be happy

01:23:02.220 --> 01:23:06.270
to pay. Absolutely. I think we need to change.

01:23:06.390 --> 01:23:08.770
It's something that now we need to change. Because

01:23:08.770 --> 01:23:12.350
this big corporation got a lot of power. And

01:23:12.350 --> 01:23:16.010
the open source is at risk for the open source

01:23:16.010 --> 01:23:21.590
now to collapse. To be in control. So we need

01:23:21.590 --> 01:23:24.130
to find a balance between freedom and independence

01:23:24.130 --> 01:23:27.609
as well. Because no money, no independence. Yep.

01:23:27.609 --> 01:23:30.739
No money. You probably have to rely on a big

01:23:30.739 --> 01:23:33.220
corporation that is just watching you and it's

01:23:33.220 --> 01:23:34.600
going to offer you something. You're probably

01:23:34.600 --> 01:23:38.180
going to need it. You don't have support from

01:23:38.180 --> 01:23:39.920
your community. So what are you going to do?

01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:42.819
Yes. But this is a topic that the people doesn't

01:23:42.819 --> 01:23:47.979
like. I know. Believe me. I know. I know. They

01:23:47.979 --> 01:23:50.819
don't like it at all. I get, you know, a lot

01:23:50.819 --> 01:23:53.720
of people that leave my channel. I get negative

01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:56.100
comments. I don't care, to be honest with you.

01:23:56.140 --> 01:24:01.340
You know, it's fine. You know. And let's see.

01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:04.779
Do you want to talk about, I don't know, non

01:24:04.779 --> 01:24:09.460
-related, non -technical stuff? I want to talk

01:24:09.460 --> 01:24:12.079
about artificial intelligence. Oh, yeah. Why

01:24:12.079 --> 01:24:18.060
you commented on my video that you think the

01:24:18.060 --> 01:24:22.060
time I eat and it was moderated. Fuck you. Fuck

01:24:22.060 --> 01:24:27.100
you as well. No, I was messing with you. I was

01:24:27.100 --> 01:24:32.189
messing. Listen, artificial intelligence doesn't

01:24:32.189 --> 01:24:37.210
exist. It's not intelligence. The concept of

01:24:37.210 --> 01:24:41.029
intelligence is not the claim of the artificial

01:24:41.029 --> 01:24:43.789
intelligence. Artificial intelligence is just

01:24:43.789 --> 01:24:46.670
a mathematic system to the human language. That's

01:24:46.670 --> 01:24:50.829
different. It gives you the right answer, but

01:24:50.829 --> 01:24:53.909
it doesn't know what it's doing. And that's different.

01:24:54.029 --> 01:24:57.100
It's not an entity. It's not a subject. It doesn't

01:24:57.100 --> 01:24:59.560
have any willing. I'm trying to explain this

01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:03.699
to the people, but that's another big fog. You

01:25:03.699 --> 01:25:08.039
know, it's like the COVID. Uh -huh. You know,

01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:13.260
during the COVID, you got the function of the...

01:25:13.260 --> 01:25:16.520
I work in healthcare. I mean, I'm not a scientist,

01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:18.920
but I work in healthcare. You have that one that

01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:22.029
say, no, the virus doesn't exist. And the one

01:25:22.029 --> 01:25:26.770
that say, no, if you touch me, I get the virus.

01:25:26.949 --> 01:25:30.270
The mask inside the car, that's extremization,

01:25:30.750 --> 01:25:33.409
you know, ignorance. That's ignorance, sorry.

01:25:34.470 --> 01:25:37.550
So I think the people doesn't know what is really

01:25:37.550 --> 01:25:42.789
artificial intelligence. It's absolutely, they

01:25:42.789 --> 01:25:46.010
don't have idea. So what are your thoughts on

01:25:46.010 --> 01:25:49.810
AI then? Do you like AI? You don't like it? AI

01:25:49.810 --> 01:25:53.500
is a tool. Of course I like. It's a tool. It's

01:25:53.500 --> 01:25:56.619
a tool in our hands, but we need to give AI the

01:25:56.619 --> 01:25:59.380
right meaning. Yep. Do you know what I mean?

01:25:59.579 --> 01:26:02.380
Yep. Have you never tried to ask a question to...

01:26:02.380 --> 01:26:05.079
I get mad because the people said to me, okay,

01:26:05.180 --> 01:26:07.939
this video is AI -generated. Fucking hell. Can

01:26:07.939 --> 01:26:12.140
you try, please, to make cloud or chat GPT to

01:26:12.140 --> 01:26:14.020
generate a script for a video, and then we will

01:26:14.020 --> 01:26:20.500
see. Fucking hell. Fucking hell. Oh, man. Okay.

01:26:21.539 --> 01:26:26.779
You heard my English. I write in Italian. I know

01:26:26.779 --> 01:26:31.319
how to write. I will teach ChatGPT to write.

01:26:31.380 --> 01:26:34.539
Trust me. I know ChatGPT that teach me how to

01:26:34.539 --> 01:26:36.779
write. Let me show you. Let me show you something.

01:26:37.140 --> 01:26:41.840
No, one day I asked. Sometimes I use. I went

01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:45.260
to ask to Cloud a question about the C programming

01:26:45.260 --> 01:26:48.439
language. He invented the name. He invented the

01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:52.460
link. He gave me everything fails. It's not reliable.

01:26:52.739 --> 01:26:57.539
Sorry. Let me show you something. Look at this.

01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:00.619
You see this thumbnail that I have here, right?

01:27:00.680 --> 01:27:02.699
This is a clip that I released today. Wayland

01:27:02.699 --> 01:27:05.220
versus X11. The conversation that I had with

01:27:05.220 --> 01:27:07.600
other four guests. You see that thumbnail, right?

01:27:07.960 --> 01:27:14.079
But I asked AI for an idea so that it generated

01:27:14.079 --> 01:27:18.539
a thumbnail. Look at this. What the fuck? Which

01:27:18.539 --> 01:27:24.159
AI have you used? This is ChatGPT 5 .2. And do

01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:28.279
you know something? That is getting worse. Yeah,

01:27:28.380 --> 01:27:30.479
it wasn't this bad. It's getting very worse.

01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:33.000
It wasn't this bad. It wasn't so bad. No, it

01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:35.779
wasn't. I start to use Canva now. I used to use

01:27:35.779 --> 01:27:40.819
ChatGPT for Tumblr. Now I'm using Canva. That's

01:27:40.819 --> 01:27:44.180
very bad. I use Canva for my thumbnails as well.

01:27:44.779 --> 01:27:47.479
It depends. But some people complain about the

01:27:47.479 --> 01:27:50.340
AI -generated tumble. I say, what do you want,

01:27:50.399 --> 01:27:55.060
a tiara designer to create a tumble? Or draw

01:27:55.060 --> 01:27:58.399
it, right? Draw it and paint it by hand. Yes,

01:27:58.460 --> 01:28:01.579
it's original. And then I want to tell you this.

01:28:01.979 --> 01:28:05.319
And if it was AI, what is the difference? And

01:28:05.319 --> 01:28:09.100
if AI discovered a physical law, what do we do?

01:28:09.220 --> 01:28:13.460
The physical law is not valid. We recover and

01:28:13.460 --> 01:28:15.869
we let the humans... Sorry, guys. We need to

01:28:15.869 --> 01:28:18.869
be... If it's written with AI or not, it doesn't

01:28:18.869 --> 01:28:22.989
matter. Do you know what I mean? So what he says

01:28:22.989 --> 01:28:25.890
is true or it's fake? Yeah. Is it correct or

01:28:25.890 --> 01:28:27.529
not? That's the point. Right? Is it useful or

01:28:27.529 --> 01:28:31.029
not? That's the point. Exactly. Focus on that.

01:28:31.210 --> 01:28:34.630
I agree. I will tell you another thing. A lot

01:28:34.630 --> 01:28:37.170
of YouTubers that show their face, read the screen

01:28:37.170 --> 01:28:40.789
with the chat GPT script, and nobody complains.

01:28:41.229 --> 01:28:44.899
Exactly. Exactly. Now, something that I have

01:28:44.899 --> 01:28:48.020
noticed recently, and this didn't happen two,

01:28:48.119 --> 01:28:50.619
three years ago, is that everyone is writing

01:28:50.619 --> 01:28:53.640
their own plugins magically out of nowhere. Nobody

01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:58.760
uses AI. Just listen to me. Nobody uses AI, but

01:28:58.760 --> 01:29:01.119
everyone is writing their own plugins. Everyone,

01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:04.180
any of them at least, is ditching their plugins

01:29:04.180 --> 01:29:07.220
and building their own custom solutions, but

01:29:07.220 --> 01:29:10.859
nobody's using AI. So, nah, it's bullshit. Everyone's

01:29:10.859 --> 01:29:14.100
using AI. Do you know what is AI? It's like newborn.

01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:18.819
It's the same. Nobody watch it. But it's the

01:29:18.819 --> 01:29:22.960
most missed website in the world. Oh, fuck you.

01:29:22.979 --> 01:29:26.100
You are hypocrite. Sorry. Yeah, this video is

01:29:26.100 --> 01:29:28.100
definitely going to be demonetized. When they

01:29:28.100 --> 01:29:30.520
see the mask, YouTube is going to be, no, man,

01:29:30.579 --> 01:29:34.520
what type of wild stuff is this? And now we're

01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:37.659
talking about all this. I'm just kidding. I'm

01:29:37.659 --> 01:29:41.039
just kidding. Probably sorry I did wrong to mention

01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:45.220
the website. Sorry, but you can... No, no, it's

01:29:45.220 --> 01:29:48.399
fine. I don't care. No, I don't care. I don't

01:29:48.399 --> 01:29:50.600
care, to be honest. Okay, anything else they

01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:55.199
want to share with us about AI? Well, what I

01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:57.840
have to share with you about AI, I told you,

01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:02.800
in my opinion, the people misunderstand what

01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:07.029
AI is. They give the meaning that AI is an entity.

01:30:07.149 --> 01:30:09.850
AI is not an entity, it's a tool. It's like a

01:30:09.850 --> 01:30:12.590
calculator of the human language. It's different.

01:30:14.050 --> 01:30:19.430
I'm concerned about this, about how important

01:30:19.430 --> 01:30:23.050
for the people is AI. Because when they open

01:30:23.050 --> 01:30:27.109
chat GPT and chat GPT speak, they think that

01:30:27.109 --> 01:30:30.710
that one is true. And it's not like that. That's

01:30:30.710 --> 01:30:36.000
the control, because they are not aware. It's

01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:37.659
just an algorithm. You know the transformer,

01:30:37.880 --> 01:30:43.939
right? It's just the transformer. Okay, there

01:30:43.939 --> 01:30:46.840
is the machine learning and everything, but it's

01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:50.119
just an algorithm. It's just maths. The human

01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:54.600
thinking is different. Nobody in the world knows

01:30:54.600 --> 01:30:57.460
what is really the human thing. Nobody can replicate.

01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:01.739
We are unique. I did a video where it was in

01:31:01.739 --> 01:31:06.149
Overshadow. I don't know why. When I try to explain

01:31:06.149 --> 01:31:11.689
why our brain is extremely superior to any type

01:31:11.689 --> 01:31:15.550
of computer or supercomputer or large language

01:31:15.550 --> 01:31:22.369
model. But it went in other shadow. Okay. Yeah.

01:31:22.649 --> 01:31:26.729
Happens with YouTube a lot. Okay. Are there any

01:31:26.729 --> 01:31:30.909
other topics that you want to talk about? I don't

01:31:30.909 --> 01:31:36.359
know. You. Tell me you're atopic. Come on. What

01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:42.579
are your thoughts on substance abuse, drugs,

01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:46.420
alcohol, and all that stuff? I never smoked marijuana

01:31:46.420 --> 01:31:51.720
in my life. I never used any type of drugs. The

01:31:51.720 --> 01:31:54.560
people that I came from is something that we

01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:59.460
don't do it. And I don't like people that get

01:31:59.460 --> 01:32:02.100
drunk. I don't need to drink alcohol to be myself.

01:32:02.340 --> 01:32:05.560
I can be myself. I know. I always say that I

01:32:05.560 --> 01:32:09.739
know who I am. I know where I came from. And

01:32:09.739 --> 01:32:13.840
I know where I will go. I ate. I ate. I live

01:32:13.840 --> 01:32:15.779
in UK. And trust me, for me, it's a problem.

01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:18.779
Because you have the people need to get drunk

01:32:18.779 --> 01:32:22.439
to socialize, to speak with you. And that's very

01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:27.739
sad. I'm drunk by nature. Do you see me? I don't

01:32:27.739 --> 01:32:32.640
need the alcohol. No, absolutely. I never smoke

01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:34.300
marijuana. When I say this, the people don't

01:32:34.300 --> 01:32:36.220
believe me. I don't believe you. No, it's true.

01:32:37.239 --> 01:32:41.640
I'll tell you a funny story, okay? I went to

01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:45.539
a raid party. Because in London, everybody does

01:32:45.539 --> 01:32:49.460
drugs. Just me, probably. Another one. I never

01:32:49.460 --> 01:32:53.649
meet someone like me. I went to this rave party.

01:32:53.789 --> 01:32:55.930
Of course, there was probably 75 people, no,

01:32:56.050 --> 01:33:00.210
girl and boy. Music, they do amphetamine, blah,

01:33:00.289 --> 01:33:04.109
blah, blah. Like around 5 .30 in the morning,

01:33:04.189 --> 01:33:11.289
all of them was like, I get up on the sofa, on

01:33:11.289 --> 01:33:14.609
the floor, and a girl come to me and say, sorry,

01:33:14.850 --> 01:33:21.899
which drug are you using? I say, I cannot tell

01:33:21.899 --> 01:33:26.399
you. It's a secret. I never used any drugs. I

01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:28.260
was just enjoying and speaking with everybody.

01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:33.260
Yeah. I did it in the past when I was younger.

01:33:33.460 --> 01:33:36.159
You know, I did a lot. I did a lot of drinking,

01:33:36.380 --> 01:33:39.859
drugs. No, I was lucky because I grew up in an

01:33:39.859 --> 01:33:43.039
environment where we grew up with strong value.

01:33:43.899 --> 01:33:48.729
And like small villages. And I'm happy about

01:33:48.729 --> 01:33:53.550
that. I was lucky. I was lucky. Yes. Oh, okay.

01:33:53.850 --> 01:33:57.329
Okay. Awesome. And do you want to share with

01:33:57.329 --> 01:34:00.529
us, I don't know, two of your favorite movies?

01:34:00.670 --> 01:34:02.390
Do you have any movies? Well, you said that you

01:34:02.390 --> 01:34:04.489
like watching a lot, a lot of movies, but you

01:34:04.489 --> 01:34:07.289
want to share with us two of them. Two of them.

01:34:07.689 --> 01:34:10.750
2001 Space Odyssey, I think is the best movie

01:34:10.750 --> 01:34:15.079
ever created. The movie that I watch most probably,

01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:19.020
I watch 13 times or 14 times, is 12 Angry Men.

01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:22.579
Hold on, let's see. I suggest you to watch it.

01:34:22.680 --> 01:34:26.439
You understand why the movie now is shit. Okay,

01:34:26.479 --> 01:34:32.699
so you said this one, 2001, Space Odyssey. Do

01:34:32.699 --> 01:34:36.640
you never watch? I have not watched this one,

01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:40.560
no. Oh my God. Oh my god, that was possible,

01:34:40.720 --> 01:34:46.579
fucking hell. Have you watched this one? Have

01:34:46.579 --> 01:34:51.359
you watched this one? Hold on. Oh shit, I changed

01:34:51.359 --> 01:34:58.539
my keyboard. This one. Have you watched this

01:34:58.539 --> 01:35:04.060
one from 2003? It's Korean. Old Boy. What's the

01:35:04.060 --> 01:35:08.680
name of the movie? Old Boy. No, no. I don't watch

01:35:08.680 --> 01:35:12.779
this kind of movie. No? It's good. It's good.

01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:16.779
You should watch it. Twelve Angry Men. Twelve?

01:35:16.960 --> 01:35:23.899
Hold on. Angry Men. Oh, sheesh. Yes. Oh, this

01:35:23.899 --> 01:35:30.239
one. Yes, exactly. From 1957. Trust me, that

01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:34.380
movie is absolutely a masterpiece. If you watch,

01:35:34.520 --> 01:35:38.960
you will be shocked. It's a masterpiece. I'll

01:35:38.960 --> 01:35:43.699
give it a try. Believe me. Believe me. You must

01:35:43.699 --> 01:35:47.600
trust me. You must watch that movie. Believe

01:35:47.600 --> 01:35:52.220
me. I'll tell you just one detail. All the movie

01:35:52.220 --> 01:35:57.819
is shot inside the room. Okay? There is no outside,

01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:00.720
no inside. The movie is inside the room. Everything

01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:04.600
is movement. Everything is face. Everything is

01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:08.020
facial expression. And, you know, you feel that

01:36:08.020 --> 01:36:10.899
movement. You feel the tension. It's amazing.

01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:13.380
They don't need big effects. They don't need

01:36:13.380 --> 01:36:16.760
nothing. When you know how to act, when you know

01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:21.000
how to shoot, there is no way. That's the problem.

01:36:22.319 --> 01:36:25.060
That movie is amazing. I watched more than 10

01:36:25.060 --> 01:36:29.460
times. I enjoyed it. Yes, yes, yes. I love it.

01:36:29.500 --> 01:36:31.439
I'll take a look. Do you want to share with us

01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:37.140
your favorite music bands, if you have any? Beethoven

01:36:37.140 --> 01:36:42.460
is my favorite music band. I like classical music.

01:36:42.779 --> 01:36:46.380
Classical, okay. Classical, also like the Queen.

01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:53.840
Music is my weakness, I must admit. I'm not too

01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:58.989
much into music. Oh, okay. Yes. Okay, okay. But

01:36:58.989 --> 01:37:01.069
I like the classic music. I like the rock band,

01:37:01.210 --> 01:37:06.630
The Queen. Okay, okay. Do you like reading? Do

01:37:06.630 --> 01:37:10.710
you read some book? I should. No? I should read

01:37:10.710 --> 01:37:14.369
more, but I don't. No, I don't know. Okay. What

01:37:14.369 --> 01:37:16.550
books do you recommend? Which ones are your favorite

01:37:16.550 --> 01:37:22.770
ones? If you don't read too much, that's probably...

01:37:22.770 --> 01:37:26.500
No, your cup of tea. No, but... For the audience,

01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:29.520
you know, or maybe I decide to read it someday.

01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:32.039
Well, probably it's a large number of people,

01:37:32.100 --> 01:37:35.960
but I love Shakespeare. Okay. For example, I

01:37:35.960 --> 01:37:42.640
love Hemingway. Neruda is a poet, he's from Chile.

01:37:44.180 --> 01:37:46.819
Shakespeare, I'm crazy about Shakespeare. Dante,

01:37:46.979 --> 01:37:50.939
you know Dante? Yep, yep. Dante, Shakespeare,

01:37:51.180 --> 01:37:54.960
this is my kind of literature. Literature, okay.

01:37:55.579 --> 01:38:00.899
They are not exactly novels. For novels, I will

01:38:00.899 --> 01:38:10.640
say also, there is a book here. Murakami. This

01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:16.279
is Japanese. He's an amazing writer. He's an

01:38:16.279 --> 01:38:21.500
amazing writer, Murakami. I love Murakami, yes.

01:38:21.680 --> 01:38:24.939
And also there is a woman writer that I love

01:38:24.939 --> 01:38:28.279
how she writes. She's from Canada. The name is

01:38:28.279 --> 01:38:32.300
Alice Monroe. And she won the Nobel Prize, but

01:38:32.300 --> 01:38:37.699
I love her. She writes in an amazing way. All

01:38:37.699 --> 01:38:41.399
right. All right, you. Appreciate all of that.

01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:44.659
Are there any final thoughts or any final words

01:38:44.659 --> 01:38:46.399
that you want to share with us? Any final topics?

01:38:47.319 --> 01:38:50.380
We didn't say anything technical, right? Because

01:38:50.380 --> 01:38:56.539
Fedora 43. Fedora 43. Yeah, man. Amazing interview.

01:38:57.060 --> 01:39:00.300
Amazing interview. That one was epic. Yeah. That

01:39:00.300 --> 01:39:03.119
one was epic. I watch it and I just, you know,

01:39:03.140 --> 01:39:06.840
not in a bad way, but I laugh. I enjoy it, you

01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:11.050
know, but I laugh. She didn't want to finish.

01:39:11.350 --> 01:39:14.449
No, no. She said when we started the interview,

01:39:14.569 --> 01:39:18.590
she said half an hour. And we were talking for

01:39:18.590 --> 01:39:21.510
two hours. Half an hour for what? For the beginning?

01:39:21.829 --> 01:39:23.890
Yeah. At the beginning, she said, yeah, half

01:39:23.890 --> 01:39:26.050
an hour is fine. Let's just do half an hour.

01:39:26.069 --> 01:39:30.449
You know, if I'm in a rush and the last person

01:39:30.449 --> 01:39:32.630
that I want to meet in the street is Andrea Borman,

01:39:32.750 --> 01:39:35.819
to be honest. Probably I will lose at least one

01:39:35.819 --> 01:39:38.260
hour just to say good morning and see you later.

01:39:40.260 --> 01:39:44.159
You know what I mean? Yeah. And so she's going

01:39:44.159 --> 01:39:46.539
to try to switch over to Linux Mint. Let's see

01:39:46.539 --> 01:39:49.579
if she watches this interview. Andrea, if you're

01:39:49.579 --> 01:39:52.479
watching this, leave a comment down below because

01:39:52.479 --> 01:39:58.520
you is a fan. I'm a fan too. I'm a fan of Andrea.

01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:01.319
But Andrea comments to my videos as well a lot.

01:40:01.539 --> 01:40:05.079
All the time. Okay. Yes, yes. Most of the time

01:40:05.079 --> 01:40:09.159
I try to reply to her, but you know, when you

01:40:09.159 --> 01:40:11.319
receive so many comments, it's impossible. That's

01:40:11.319 --> 01:40:13.239
very difficult for me to manage the comments.

01:40:13.420 --> 01:40:16.600
It's a problem. I leave it as they are. I can

01:40:16.600 --> 01:40:22.359
no answer, sorry. I would love, but it's impossible.

01:40:22.579 --> 01:40:24.699
You receive 100 comments, you need to read it.

01:40:24.779 --> 01:40:28.100
It's crazy. Yeah. and reply to all of them yeah

01:40:28.100 --> 01:40:31.640
it's it's it's important for the algorithm is

01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:35.239
very important to give an answer to the comments

01:40:35.239 --> 01:40:38.979
i think is important i don't care about the algorithm

01:40:38.979 --> 01:40:45.199
to be honest you algorithm as well okay so so

01:40:45.199 --> 01:40:49.979
but i i give you the um the idea to about the

01:40:49.979 --> 01:40:53.979
channel you need to you need to create what i

01:40:53.979 --> 01:40:57.020
say to you Oh, before the tweet was public. Split

01:40:57.020 --> 01:40:59.239
it, split the channel. Yeah, I have thought about

01:40:59.239 --> 01:41:02.180
that. You know, I asked in Discord, should I

01:41:02.180 --> 01:41:04.199
split? Because you know what happens with my

01:41:04.199 --> 01:41:07.180
channel, you know, like, OK, these videos are

01:41:07.180 --> 01:41:10.300
two hours long, some of them three hours long.

01:41:10.439 --> 01:41:13.760
And people watch them on average for, let's say,

01:41:13.800 --> 01:41:17.340
18 minutes, right? 18, some of them 14 minutes.

01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:21.880
But then when I release a 10 minute video, YouTube

01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:25.560
thinks it's shit because. It's not watched for

01:41:25.560 --> 01:41:29.920
14, for 10 minutes. So I don't know if that affects

01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:34.560
my channel. Having huge videos and small videos

01:41:34.560 --> 01:41:38.619
at the same time, I have no idea. I think that

01:41:38.619 --> 01:41:43.359
the long video... The short videos are shit,

01:41:43.479 --> 01:41:46.319
you're going to say. No, no, no. It's not like

01:41:46.319 --> 01:41:51.119
that. I think that the long video gives you performance

01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:55.770
with the time. For YouTube, it's better a long

01:41:55.770 --> 01:41:58.550
video, according to their mind. Because they

01:41:58.550 --> 01:42:04.789
can put a lot more ads. Yeah, they do. And, you

01:42:04.789 --> 01:42:07.489
know, it's always more convenient to create a

01:42:07.489 --> 01:42:11.270
long video. But also, you need to keep the audience

01:42:11.270 --> 01:42:15.649
to watch the video. Nobody watches such a long

01:42:15.649 --> 01:42:19.810
video. Well, I watch all the interviews. All

01:42:19.810 --> 01:42:23.289
of them. Oh, you do, but it's a small percentage

01:42:23.289 --> 01:42:26.029
of people that watches the entire thing. What

01:42:26.029 --> 01:42:32.029
are your stats about how many percentage on two

01:42:32.029 --> 01:42:35.489
hours? Below 10? Let me see. I'm going to tell

01:42:35.489 --> 01:42:38.569
you right now. Let's see. If we switch here.

01:42:41.250 --> 01:42:47.529
Hold on. There is this thing. It's a different

01:42:47.529 --> 01:43:06.850
screen. Okay. Here, here. You see it there? Let's

01:43:06.850 --> 01:43:09.050
take a look at the Andrea Borman video. This

01:43:09.050 --> 01:43:11.590
is two hours long, right? Open the statistic

01:43:11.590 --> 01:43:18.750
and go down. Oh, $8. Go down. $8. God. Come on,

01:43:18.750 --> 01:43:22.590
you are rich, man. I'm rich. You are rich, man.

01:43:23.289 --> 01:43:28.789
What is your... Your CPM is not so bad. Go down.

01:43:32.630 --> 01:43:34.710
Down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down,

01:43:34.829 --> 01:43:39.130
down, down, down. Down? Here. Ah, yes. Look at

01:43:39.130 --> 01:43:43.789
this. So, you see? Ah, yes. That's normal. Consider

01:43:43.789 --> 01:43:46.880
it when I... when i create a video that is like

01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:52.920
eight minutes it can also be reached 51 percent

01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:57.420
here oh 51 oh yeah that is quite good if the

01:43:57.420 --> 01:44:01.960
video is 20 minutes is go below it's normal yeah

01:44:01.960 --> 01:44:04.779
let me show you another one look at this for

01:44:04.779 --> 01:44:07.779
example a short one write this this is a short

01:44:07.779 --> 01:44:13.619
one 12 and this video is 10 minutes right And

01:44:13.619 --> 01:44:17.739
people to watch it, right? Yes, a lot. And the

01:44:17.739 --> 01:44:20.479
curve like that, meaning a lot. Because they

01:44:20.479 --> 01:44:24.699
mean that all the people that was on the video

01:44:24.699 --> 01:44:29.579
stay until the end. It's quite positive. That's

01:44:29.579 --> 01:44:33.539
why you get the same amount of money. Because

01:44:33.539 --> 01:44:37.239
in this way, they can show two ads to them. Do

01:44:37.239 --> 01:44:40.789
you know what I mean? It's a balance. I'm not

01:44:40.789 --> 01:44:42.930
creating my video for the ads, to be honest.

01:44:43.369 --> 01:44:48.909
I'm not thinking about that. Of course, I look

01:44:48.909 --> 01:44:51.069
at the statistics as well. I try to understand

01:44:51.069 --> 01:44:54.689
what... But not for the ads. Because you can

01:44:54.689 --> 01:44:56.729
understand... I would love to understand why

01:44:56.729 --> 01:45:02.310
in the first 20 seconds a lot of people leave.

01:45:02.869 --> 01:45:05.069
You know, because I think a lot of people click

01:45:05.069 --> 01:45:07.050
and leave, click and leave. You are in that move.

01:45:08.329 --> 01:45:13.550
Exactly. But, you know, studying and understanding

01:45:13.550 --> 01:45:17.310
the algorithm of YouTube is very interesting.

01:45:18.229 --> 01:45:21.210
Because, like, everybody wants to understand

01:45:21.210 --> 01:45:25.590
how it works. And I understand that Tidal and

01:45:25.590 --> 01:45:28.810
Tumble are extremely important. They are very

01:45:28.810 --> 01:45:32.470
important. Much more than the content. I know,

01:45:32.569 --> 01:45:35.789
it's a shame, but it's like that. That's why

01:45:35.789 --> 01:45:38.260
there is a clickbait, you know? But if they click

01:45:38.260 --> 01:45:39.979
and the video is not good, they leave, right?

01:45:40.060 --> 01:45:41.899
So your videos are good. That's why they stay.

01:45:42.979 --> 01:45:47.479
Of course, the video should be good. Okay. But

01:45:47.479 --> 01:45:52.920
your video can be amazing. If you miss the title

01:45:52.920 --> 01:45:56.039
and dumbbell, it's finished. Goodbye. Adios.

01:45:56.640 --> 01:46:02.300
Okay, I got two videos. One about the history

01:46:02.300 --> 01:46:09.279
of Docker container. and another one that is

01:46:09.279 --> 01:46:13.199
about digital freedom okay they are very good

01:46:13.199 --> 01:46:16.500
video even from the statistic the history of

01:46:16.500 --> 01:46:19.659
docker it got 100 of like is the only video on

01:46:19.659 --> 01:46:25.260
my channel and he did like 2k view and i get

01:46:25.260 --> 01:46:31.060
i i get more than more than like 25 subscriber

01:46:31.060 --> 01:46:34.890
just for this one exactly But you know, it never

01:46:34.890 --> 01:46:37.109
exploded. Never, ever, ever. I don't know why.

01:46:37.229 --> 01:46:43.189
This one? Yes. Oh. Never. I don't know why. And

01:46:43.189 --> 01:46:46.270
it's just the moment. If I republish this video,

01:46:46.449 --> 01:46:50.470
it can get 100 ,000 views. I already did. I already

01:46:50.470 --> 01:46:56.930
did in the past. With a video about the explanation

01:46:56.930 --> 01:47:02.079
of the ODF document format. I published it like

01:47:02.079 --> 01:47:05.359
one year ago, and it gets probably less than

01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:10.479
1 ,000 views. Then I downloaded the video. I

01:47:10.479 --> 01:47:12.979
changed the first 20 seconds and the last 20

01:47:12.979 --> 01:47:16.880
seconds, and the video gets 50 ,000 views. And

01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:20.239
did you delete the old video? No, you don't need

01:47:20.239 --> 01:47:23.819
to delete any video. No? For YouTube, it's a

01:47:23.819 --> 01:47:26.600
new video. If you change the beginning and the

01:47:26.600 --> 01:47:31.119
end, it just isn't... The moment itself is not

01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:35.479
important. It's just random. You know, maybe

01:47:35.479 --> 01:47:38.720
tomorrow I publish a video and my video gets

01:47:38.720 --> 01:47:46.899
25k view. It's not about that video itself. It's

01:47:46.899 --> 01:47:51.600
also about the algorithm moment where my channel

01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:56.159
is. Maybe in that moment it's low and they get

01:47:56.159 --> 01:48:00.800
20k. if in another six months he can get 100k

01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:04.699
the same video or one million of me do you know

01:48:04.699 --> 01:48:10.380
it's it's very random it's a roulette yeah it

01:48:10.380 --> 01:48:14.479
is a roulette it creates a lot of mechanism mechanic

01:48:14.479 --> 01:48:19.779
that are like no link with the quality absolutely

01:48:19.779 --> 01:48:22.720
yeah because all the content all the content

01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:28.630
became the same no Or to extreme or to, I don't

01:48:28.630 --> 01:48:33.729
know. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay. You, we're going

01:48:33.729 --> 01:48:39.109
to be ending the stream here. We, we, well, not

01:48:39.109 --> 01:48:43.229
we, but chat donated $50. You can see that here.

01:48:43.270 --> 01:48:45.329
Do you see the little bar here at the bottom?

01:48:45.369 --> 01:48:51.569
It says $50, 18 cents. How many, how many super

01:48:51.569 --> 01:48:55.470
chat do we get? Let's see. Let's scroll. Is there

01:48:55.470 --> 01:49:01.529
a way to filter this thing? We got, let's see,

01:49:01.689 --> 01:49:15.310
one, two, three. $20. $20. He donated $20 twice.

01:49:15.630 --> 01:49:19.770
That's the CEO, Roman. You want to repay me?

01:49:20.010 --> 01:49:28.720
Come on. And that's it. Okay, it's fine. So how

01:49:28.720 --> 01:49:31.819
can I send you the money? You know what? Why

01:49:31.819 --> 01:49:35.039
don't you donate to Caden Live, the $50, and

01:49:35.039 --> 01:49:38.939
I will donate to the Kitty Terminal, the other

01:49:38.939 --> 01:49:42.380
$50. Okay, I will send you by mail the receipt

01:49:42.380 --> 01:49:46.640
of the donation. Okay. Or you can post it as

01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:51.140
a post in your channel. Would that be okay? I

01:49:51.140 --> 01:49:52.939
just sent to you. I don't need to post on my

01:49:52.939 --> 01:49:57.560
channel to do sponsorship about myself. Okay.

01:49:57.699 --> 01:50:01.939
Okay. I'm going to post it in my channel so people

01:50:01.939 --> 01:50:04.819
can see that I did actually donate to the kitty

01:50:04.819 --> 01:50:09.560
terminal once I, once I do it. So. Okay. Really

01:50:09.560 --> 01:50:11.880
appreciate it. You any final words you want to

01:50:11.880 --> 01:50:15.300
say before we, before we end the stream? Good

01:50:15.300 --> 01:50:19.300
luck. We'll see for how long I'll be able to

01:50:19.300 --> 01:50:24.479
continue with this podcast. You need to continue

01:50:24.479 --> 01:50:27.100
because it's something I told you. It's very

01:50:27.100 --> 01:50:29.920
interesting. You need to try to interview new

01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:34.340
YouTubers. I'll keep going and we'll see how

01:50:34.340 --> 01:50:37.439
far it goes. Because I like it. I enjoy it. You

01:50:37.439 --> 01:50:40.760
get to meet a lot of interesting people and that

01:50:40.760 --> 01:50:45.340
stays there forever. Crazy people as well. Crazy

01:50:45.340 --> 01:50:49.180
people. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks to you.

01:50:49.220 --> 01:50:50.579
Thanks, Chad. Bye.
