everyone have a guest today the youtube's channel
i'm gonna call him you hey you how's it going
i am fine thanks okay awesome so um you have
a pretty big channel by the way you have like
how long have you had your channel A year and
a half. I was checking your channel. It's been
on for a year and a half and you have like 20
,000 subscribers, right? Like, what do you do?
What's your secret? How did you grow up so fast?
I don't know, to be honest. No? I don't have
a specific answer about this question. No? Did
you have editing experience or you just started?
Zero. If you look at my first video, that was
horrible. The first long video that I did was
the Easter about Debian. It was so horrible video.
That video make me to understand a lot of things.
Consider that I take more than one month to create
that video, to edit that video. I used to use
Flowblade and then... Now, probably I can do
in just four hours. Okay. It's a process. When
you start to create, you will improve. Yep. It
takes less time. You start to understand a lot
of things. It's not just a game. It was a particular
moment of my life. And then, I don't know. When
you enter in something, you don't realize. And
then when you watch your back, you say, okay,
I enter here. Uh -huh. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah. And how do you edit, by the way?
What program do you use? I use KDN Live. Oh,
okay. Okay. Okay. Sometimes I use the short course
as well on my supercomputer for a gig of run.
What do you have? What computer do you have?
A ThinkPad or what is it? I got, well, I got...
Adel, an Optiplex. Here is my main system with
Void Linux. And then I'm doing a lot of experiments
now. I got... My brother gave me this... Thinkpad.
X1 Nano 2. Yes. And I got Slack over here. And
then I got this one that I've got on Portose.
And it's, I think, about X2... X270. Can you
see it? Yep, I see it. And there I got the anti
-desktop. I got Alpine and LabWC. Oh, Alpine.
The only place that I have used Alpine is in
Docker containers because it's a pretty small
distribution, right? Believe me, Alpine Linux
is an amazing distribution. It's a serious project.
It's very organized. also you know it doesn't
use the other version because it doesn't have
the the utilities so because everything is thinking
to be more efficient oh okay that's really minimal
right Well, it's minimal, but it's minimal installation.
You decide what you want. But the system is very
quick, it's efficient. I love it. And the software
management is very easy. The only problem is
the name, because I used for 10 years Debian,
and the name is APK. Still now I'm doing APT
and this natural. Do you know what I mean? That's
the only problem. Oh, okay. I see. So what is
your main distribution? Which one is the one
that you use the most? Like your daily driver?
I don't change it. I don't change distro. When
I find my distro, I will stay with the distro.
I start in 2000, 2001 with Slackware. It's a
long story. I will tell you afterwards. And then
I start to use Debian. Then I enter in the dream
of Ubuntu. Then the dream was broken. I come
back to Debian. And then, you know, during the
process of the channel, I'm doing a lot of tests
with the new distro. And I have... pendrive with
a lot of iso inside and i have this iso void
linux for like one year i never tried then when
i tried i love it and i decided to change system
i use void linux now oh you're in void linux
why did you leave them in that's a good question
I don't know. For a couple of motivations, I'm
trying to explain, to bring out something that
is unconscious. I don't know. I'm trying to give
myself an actual explanation why. I think it
changed a little bit. I really forgive Debian
for the system dejoys. Okay? And then also, you
know, a lot of political things happened inside
the Debian project and not just the Debian project.
And then also they are trying to rewrite now
APT Rust. You know, Debian is like a fortress
for the open source. It represents a lot for
us, for the community. Consider that for years
Debian didn't use Firefox just for a question
of logo property, question of license of the
logo. And it's a very serious project. Still
now, it's a very organized project. Everything
is organized, everything is documented. But it's
a little bit... It's changing a little bit. It's
not the same as before. Politically? I think
politically as well, yes. It's not just Debian,
it's everywhere. And that's the big problem of
the open source. You know, as on YouTube, I noticed
that there are just two flags. Or you don't speak,
or you are just extreme. Do you know what I mean?
There is too much extremization. And I think
we need to answer to this with the logic, not
with the hate. Do you know what I mean? I don't
belong to any flag. I'm not an extreme person.
I'm a conservative person. I think that I'm right
for something and left for other things. But
I'm not extreme. So absolutely. We are losing
the ability to look properly at reality. Because
we are too much... You see that video about the
history of the woman in technology? I lost four
subscribers with that video. Why? The people
are like us, charged with anger. about these
topics as soon as you touch a topic. So if I
say something against the work, I cannot say
something as I said in my video about the woman.
I need to be extreme like them. It's not like
that. Do you know what I mean? I get mad for
these things, but I keep going to create that
type of video. Do you want that type of audience,
right? Someone that is going to get offended?
Nothing bad was in that video, right? No, I want
everybody must watch my channel. Right, left
on my channel, I noticed that comments come from
trans people, woke people, anti -woke people.
Everybody is free to comment. I think our common
ground is the technology is open source. It's
not the politics. If I'm here to speak with you
about what I think about gay or what I think
about Trump, we are going to fight. Do you know
what I mean? The common ground of our communities
is the open source. And we move this focus from
the open source to the cultural war. And this
is a big mistake. That's absolutely a mistake.
because the union when a community is split is
is destroyed and then also the label if you if
you think like that you are a fascist no i'm
not sorry i'm not fascist at all do you know
what i mean why you that's just a label yeah
so What do you think happened or is happening
to Debian politically? What conspiracy theories
do you have? No, I don't have any conspiracy
theory. And if you read this type of... This
is not just to Debian. You know, they have a
lot of policies. They ban some type of people.
I understand that. part of the user is becoming
so extreme, but we need to accept everybody.
We need to accept all of the opinions. I cannot
say that I'm right or you're wrong. I say that
I have my opinion, but maybe I'm wrong. I cannot
impose your vision of the world behind a technical
project. It's a technical project. Ian Murdoch,
when he created Debian, he didn't think about
gender identity or other stuff. We should care
just about the technology, right? Not be focusing...
Don't take me wrong. Don't take me wrong. The
problem exists, especially in the United States
of America. There is a big problem of racism,
but it's also in the... What way? Do you know
what I mean? A lot of monuments were destroyed.
Cristóbal Colombo, you cannot judge a person
that used to live five centuries ago with the
mind of now. This is not how history works. Do
you know what I mean? I know that a lot of studies
were cancelled about the work of politics. They
changed the monument name as well. In the university,
some professor need to do a declaration before
to join the university. I don't agree with this.
It creates just polarization. He moves away to
discuss seriously about the topic. And I agree
with what you said, that you cannot be... banning
people for example right someone a lot of people
leave comments in my videos that i don't agree
with i could delete them but why would i delete
them i just leave them there you know even if
they're we could say disrespectful or i don't
agree with them i just leave them there and say
whatever right because yeah it's not just my
opinion and my ideas the ones that matter when
when when someone disagrees with me i'm very
happy i'm not joking I'm looking for disagreement.
We live in this big culture of agreement on YouTube.
Everything is nice. It's beautiful. Everything
is okay. If you look some YouTuber, Gnome is
okay. Xv is okay. Zorin is okay. Ubuntu is okay.
Debian is okay. Everything is okay. It's not
like that. It's not. Please. Please. No. I want
disagreement. If we disagree... we can understand
something each other we can meet in the middle
my point of view can change do you know is i
need that clash in a lot of video i'm doing very
pretty critical video deep critic um especially
on rust oh my god i received some comments very
long i learned a lot very very competent people
guys I don't know how to program. And these guys
was very confident. I learn a lot. It's a way
to learn as well. Why we need to agree? We don't
need to agree. We are different. What's the problem?
Some guys tell me, oh, I disagree with you. Okay,
I'm happy. Thank you. Please do it. Yeah, we
don't have to agree on everything. I also noticed
in one of your videos, do you have beef? As they
call it in the US with Markdown. What's going
on with you and Markdown? No, no. That video
was a guy that sent me the script. So it wasn't
me. I just read. I like the topic. And I agree
with that guy. And I just played the video. Oh,
I see. Okay, okay. I'm not into, I'm not like,
I told you, I'm not into Emacs or NeoVim or Emacs,
I mean, this type of topic. That's just fog,
sorry. What do you use then? You don't use NeoVim
or Emacs, what do you use? Just a text editor,
it's a text editor. Yeah, just... Sorry, it's
just a text editor. So there doesn't need to
be a war. No, I don't want to be... If you do
coding or if you do a lot of dot file or a lot
of things like that, it makes sense. For example,
I love writing. I'm trying to write novels. For
me... That's not the right tool. Do you know
what I mean? So I don't use it. Yep. So. Okay.
But I think most of the people doesn't, if he's
a Max or Neo, it doesn't matter. Okay. To be
honest. You also mentioned a moment ago that
you forgave Debian because of system D. So you're
against system D. And why? SystemD is against
the Unix philosophy. It's a program that can
do a lot of things. And that's against the Unix
philosophy. Also, it's a monolith. It's not just
an init system. It's doing a lot of... It's doing
logging as well. It's doing binary logging. And
some people complain about that because the textual
logging is easy to understand. A lot of motivation.
And also is the politics as well. You know, an
imposition. When you impose this from above,
because you have power, because system D was
created about Red Hat and GNOME. And then everybody
start to use system D. And I think that's a wrong
choice. I understand that we need a modern system.
But why do we need to use systemd? We need to
use just an init system. Not a system that does
more things. Unix is not created for that. That's
not Unix. That's not Linux. Sorry. I know why
they create a standard that is very easy for
sysadmin. a lot of people love it okay but we
are unix we are linux that's that's different
yeah it's very difficult to manage it's not transparent
on my void i can easily manage my the services
that start on my system better than systemd no
okay okay also on alpine i'm trying to use I'm
trying to use distro without systemd. I mean,
I'm not against nothing. I mean, it's important
to have alternatives. Do you know what I mean?
It's really important. That's one of the important
points of Linux as an environment. Don't be too
much focused on just a specific project. Just
have a lot of alternatives. It's important. Okay.
What are your thoughts on Red Hat? On IBM, you
mean? On IBM, exactly. Yeah. It was, you know,
like that did something historic for Linux, no?
You start to do business and do a lot of money
with Linux. This was not easy to understand at
that time. It was a bet, and it was quite successful.
But also, it became a company. And IBM is like,
we see the results now. They have tried more
to close the proprietary system than open source.
That's another problem. We still don't know how
they behave. Well, let's see. I'm not so optimistic,
to be honest. Okay. Now, I also noticed that
in Linux, there's a lot of options. There's way
too many options. I'm not a Linux user. Well,
I'm a Linux user on servers only, you know, but
I don't... But you're at Debian. You just turn
on once a year. Yeah, yeah. My Debian servers...
Are there? Yes. I haven't updated them in two
years and I don't want to update it. They're
there, but I don't use it on the desktop. But
as a macOS user, I come to Linux and I see that
there's way too many options. Distros, window
managers, I don't know what other options, applications,
whatever. Now, instead of having all of these
options, because there are too many, wouldn't
it be... a better approach, you know, to work
on a few options and, you know, make them, make
them better. Because someone comes and creates
a new window manager from scratch, right? And
how long is that going to be maintained? Why
don't you go in, you know, support an existing
one? I don't know. How do you feel about that?
Do you think that there's too many options and
the efforts are divided too much? That's, if
you, I think you don't understand the Linux environment
if you think in this way. I don't want to offend
you. No, it's fine. It's fine. That's the open
source. I can create my Windows manager as well.
I can create whatever I want. I can do what I
want. That's part of the game. Of course, in
the competition will be someone that will emerge.
And something great will happen. Do you know
what I mean? Like a guy's... create Hyperland.
I think Hyperland is quite revolutionary on what
it brings to laptops, especially. So it was just
a single guy that created everything. If he was
thinking to improve another window manager, he
would not create this project. Oh, yeah. You
have a point there. That's part of the game.
The fragmentation is normal. It's natural. It
is what it is. Okay, makes sense. And you touched
on Wayland. Which one, which team are you on?
Wayland or X11? Also, we come back to the previous
topic. There is a lot of tribalism if you are
against Wayland or against... I did a lot of
video against Wayland, but because I'm noticing
that Wayland is becoming the only system and
that's wrong. We need alternatives. You know
what I mean? Now, GNOME and KDE will be Wayland
only, but a lot of old computers will be... You
can not install anymore GNOME or KDE. And, you
know, this is not really... This is like an end
of life. It doesn't make any sense. Why? I know...
It costs too much. It costs a lot to support
both of them. But I think we must do as an ecosystem.
We must support both of them. They are totally
different from the technical point of view. They
say that Wayland is more secure. I think security
is not just the display server. This is what
I think. I use Wayland. On Slackware, I go to
Wayland. So there's no problem for me. So you
use Wayland only, right? Yes. No, no. No. On
my Void, I got X11. Okay. Okay. Makes sense.
Okay. Now, what are your thoughts on Ubuntu?
It seems that you don't like it. No, I don't
like it. I used to love Ubuntu. A lot of users.
When Ubuntu, I think it was 2005 or 2004, like
20 years ago, it was like a dream. someone with
a billion from South Africa, you want to make
Linux mainstream, easy to install. Everybody
believe that. But then it changed a little bit.
I come back to Debian after when they released
Unity, and then I try again. Ubuntu and I noticed
that it was full of bug, very slow. Snap is like
an answer for me. As a Unix and Linux user, I
can never accept something like Snap on my ecosystem.
It's something outside of the world. If they
did this, they are outside of the world in my
opinion. Okay, so you liked it 20 years ago.
I remember that I played with Ubuntu, yeah, around
20 years ago, approximately, when they used to
send you the disks, right? Well, I didn't get
disks either. That's one of the great things
that they did. They did a lot of great things.
They also work on a lot of projects. They did
the display server as well, Mir. They did an
init server as well, init system as well, abstract.
All of them failed. But Ubuntu Canonical was
brave. It brings a lot of innovation in the Linux
world. There was a history before Ubuntu, a history
after Ubuntu. It was very important. The marketing
is important on Ubuntu. They understand that
Linux... the marketing part on Linux is also
important to be popular. Even now, the list of
Ubuntu got the best team, the best customization
is very, all the details of the seller are, the
small details are created. So I think on marketing,
they are quite good. Okay, okay. just for marketing
marketing okay that's an ubuntu now then you
don't recommend it absolutely not is there is
much better you cannot you cannot remove snapped
and that's a big problem for me that's against
the philosophy of linux of open source i cannot
impose you a system why I try to remove Snap.
Also, I try to install Chrome without a dead
package, and it doesn't work. It forces you to
install with Snap. You kill me if you do this.
That makes no sense for me. Sorry. That's against
the Linux philosophy. And which Linux distros
do you recommend, then? I don't recommend the
Linux distro, to be honest. Why? I think everybody
needs to find his way. Do you know what I mean?
Of course, there are... For example, a person
like you, you use Apple, right? Yep, macOS. So
if you ask me which distro, I can tell you, don't
use Ubuntu, but you need to find the distro for
you. It's your decision, it's not my decision.
I love Void, I love Slackware, I love... But
also Arch Linux is a great distro. I'm not saying
that it's crap. But in general, I think Debian
now is the right balance between stability, seriousness
of the project. I think Debian. Even to you,
I cannot recommend Void. The software is... It's
small. You know what I mean? Even to find a node
to find help is difficult to find it because
not too many, too much users use it. So Debian
is half of the Linux ecosystem is Debian. Do
you have any thoughts on old packages on Debian?
And what do you do in that case? Do you use flat
packs or? What do you mean old packages? What
is an old package for you? No, this obsession
to update packages is just for funerals. Come
on. I mean, when you... Sorry, I don't agree
at all. What do you mean old packages? That is
old from six months. Yeah, that diversions. People
nowadays want the latest and greatest. I think
it's just a myth, one of the others. It's just
bullshit. Sorry for the words. It's just a bullshit.
What if you change to have the latest version
of a package when you can have a very stable
version from four months ago? What is the difference?
Do we have something new in that package? If
there is something new, extremely important,
it makes sense. It depends about the type of
the user, what the user do, what they need. But
for a normal person, like 99 .99 % of the people,
I don't think so. You have a point there. Yeah,
like one of the examples could be, for example,
Neovim, right? Because Neovim is releasing features
very often. And when they release a feature,
I'm waiting on Neovim 0 .12 right now. You can
get it on Nightly, but I don't do it. I'm just
going to wait until it's officially released,
right? But in Debian, I'm not sure when that
is going to arrive in Debian. But as you said,
not a lot of people have that specific need,
right? Yes, of course. If you are that type of
user, you are not going to install Debian. Probably
your skillet, you will install Arch Linux or
Void or, you know. Okay. What are your thoughts
on Arch, by the way? I think it's a great distro.
It's a very serious project, Arch. It's very
organized as well. It's very transparent. And
this is something that nobody talks about. People
suggest a lot of distros, but who is behind the
distro? How is it organized? How is it managed,
the distro? Because when you install Microsoft
or Apple, you trust an organization. They have
control. Microsoft is a corporation. They have
money. They have money, but they have a structure.
You know who are they. But sometimes you install
some Linux distro and you don't know who they
are, who is behind the distro. That's important
as well. The organization is important. As you
told me, A distro can burn now and die tomorrow.
If they have a solid organization, it's not like
that. Organization is important. Governance.
There are some distros that have an amazing organization,
very transparent. Debian, Gentoo, Arch, Alpine.
They're very organized. On Gentoo, you can...
download the meeting the minute you can check
everything what they say word by words in the
meeting every decision that's transparency uh
-huh and this is important for an open source
project okay so you're in favor of um arch besides
ubuntu i'm not in favor i mean In my opinion,
Void is a superior choice. Arch is a great project.
Come on. It's not because I use Void that I think
Arch is shit. It's a great project. Come on.
It's a great distro. Absolutely. I did a video
and I explained why, in my opinion, Void is superior.
And I think it is. Void has the ability to be
rolling and stable. Do you know what I mean?
It doesn't have any system. That's very important.
But Arch is a great distro. Come on. Okay. Now,
besides Ubuntu, are there any other distros that
you don't like? Zorin OS. Zorin? Why? Oh, they
have a membership or something, right? Please,
can you do a favor for me? Yep. Can you go on
the site of Zorin OS? Okay, let me go. Hold on.
Yes, you go on the site of Zorin OS and you go
on the pro version. You read and you tell me
what you think. Hold on. And don't say nothing,
okay? Just give me a second. Let's read here
the super chats because people are donating,
okay? And I'm going to explain what the dynamic
is going to be. People can read it already. But
let's see. We have here Kenneth23 gifted 10 memberships.
Really appreciate that. I didn't know YouTube
had that option. I don't know how that works,
but it seems that all these people got a membership.
I really appreciate that, Kenneth. Thank you
very much. Now, the way that this is going to
work is, well, we have another one from BlueSquad.
Squatch Productions, $5. Thanks for doing you.
Okay, thank you. And we have another one here
at the bottom from Rumi Ventures. That's Rumin.
That guy is the one that pays me $50 a month
just for what I'm doing. Yeah, he's my CEO. So
he says, love for Foss. Thank you. Now, these
super chats. that we're receiving are going to
be donated to a project. I don't know if you
want to choose the project, Hugh. No, you will
choose the project. It's your channel. So as
soon as it's open source, I may pick. Okay. I
will choose the Super Chats. They're going for
Kitty's terminal creator, Kovic Goyal. He has
been in my channel sometimes. That's fine. And
I think you're going to match that amount and
donate it to a project as well, correct? I will
send you the money and you donate to him as well.
Oh, we can donate to two different projects.
We can donate the Super Chats to one of them.
It's fine. We donate everything to the guys from
the terminal. It's fine. Okay, awesome. So, appreciate
for the Super Chats, guys. And let me go to Sorin
OS. Hold on. Let me go to the website. Please
go. okay make your computer better you're on
your phone can you see something there yes i
see bro right in the pro yes yes read everything
tell me what you feel unleash your computer soaring
os pro 47 .99 plus tax okay what do you get for
those 47 .99. I don't understand. What do you
get? What do you pay for this? You need to read
properly how they claim the pro version. Oh,
Office. Yes, Office and blah, blah, blah. Audio
editor, wait, are these paid applications? Like
this Office Suite, is it paid or is it an open
source application? Those applications, all of
them are free, like LibreOffice, Kdenlive, Inkscape,
GIMP. All of them? Yes, same application that
we got in our Discord. Oh. You know, it's not,
listen, I'm not against the company. I know also
against the fact that I can create my distro
and if I want to sell, I will send for 50 quid
and I ask the money for that. It's fine. But
I cannot sell a distro like that and let the
message to go that like it's something premium
when it's not. Do you know what I mean? They
are open source project. They also not mention
it. The word Linux there is not mentioned. If
you look at the website, you will read the open
source Linux. it says no linux mint like and
uh the best linux that's quite a misleading message
i think it's not absolutely i don't like it oh
so these are not paid applications all of these
are open source because i thought that it said
something microsoft you see you thought that
you were they are paid application they are not
I will tell you another thing. The layout that
they have, that they propose as premium, there
is a way to get for free because it's open source
anyway. It's something that you can easily recreate.
It's nothing exceptional. But the thing that
drives me mad is that Zorin OS is a company based
on Ireland, okay? And the people tell me that's
the... money go to the developer. I mean, sorry.
He's a company. How do you know that the money
will go to the developer? Who told you that?
They don't publish any governance. There is no
email. There is no name of the project leader.
There is no disclosure of how the decisions are
made. There is nothing there. There is zero information.
So would you say it's a scam then? For me, it's
a scam. It's a deception. I don't like that.
Absolutely. Also, Manjaro is a company. Nobody
knows that. Manjaro is a company, but it's fine.
What is the problem? It's not a problem. It's
not a question that it's a company. It's what
the company is doing that's different. Okay,
okay. Yeah, someone is... benefiting out of this,
trying to become like a corporate, big corporation,
and just make money out of free and open source
software? I think they are two brothers. And
they created this distro. And they created this
distro that is easy to install. It's fine. It's
a derivative of Ubuntu. It's a derivative from
Debian, anyway. The granddaddy, Debian, right?
The best. Yes. I mean, sorry. Spend 50 quid for
Zorin OS, you're stupid. Sorry, guys. Fucking
hell. Come on, guys. Fucking hell. It doesn't...
We got distros that are easy to use, like Linux
Mint. It's very easy to use. But does it have
something special? Does Zorin offer something
special? There is nothing special. What? Tell
me what. What is special? I'm asking. I don't
think so. Come on. What's your special? Come
on. Okay. Okay. Now, besides... The website is
special. Oh, yeah? It's a good website. Yeah.
Besides Soarin', any other distros that you don't
like? Well, no. I think behind the distro, there
is always a person who doesn't say that I don't
like is wrong. So... I don't have any specific.
project that i don't like if they do wrong choice
technical choices that are against unix against
our philosophy i say i don't like it okay but
for example i don't like cosmic desktop but it's
not just my personal taste i think they haven't
done any innovation the problem of the linux
environment is the hype they they are obsessed
with the hype everything is new everything that
is new is exceptional it's just you know and
then we got serious projects that are that don't
have that hype for this so they don't have that
that hype oh yeah makes sense now we have here
another um super chat that mac I'm using kitty
right now. What terminal do you use, by the way?
Thanks for the donation, Dan Mack. What terminal
do you use? Me? Yep. Which one I have? Yep. I
don't care. You don't care? The terminal is just
a program. I think you need to type a command
on an interface. Sorry. If it's xterm, xterm,
yomterminal, or xfcterminal, the problem, I'm
trying to learn how to use the terminal, the
command, it's different. You know, if it's foot,
I don't know the name, there are probably 1 ,000
of them. Yeah, there's a lot. I don't misunderstand
me, so if you do coding, if you do a lot of hack,
But how many users we got to do this? 1 ,000?
2 ,000? 3 ,000? Okay. So you just use what comes
with the distro. There's another controversial
one right now, and it starts with the letter
O. What do you think it is? What distro do you
think that is? Yep. What do you think of that?
I did the video. That's another. is always linked
to the political question that we did before.
Yeah, I get a lot of hate in those videos. Yes.
If I speak bad about Omar Chee, that means that
I'm anti -fascist. If I speak good about the
creator, let's say I am fascist. Sorry. Sorry.
From the technical point of view, I don't like
Omar Chee. Sorry. For me, it's just an experiment.
Bloated. Uh -huh. You say that it's for new users.
For which type of new user? And then I'm using
Hyperland now. And, you know, it was extremely
nice as an experience to start to create my configuration.
If I find something pre -configured, it doesn't
make any sense with Hyperland. Because with Hyperland,
you... You will create the system according to
your need. That's amazing. Do you know what I
mean? If I want to scroll up to make a big screen,
I will do it by myself. I will learn the command.
I think he makes no sense. It's a nice experiment.
It's an experiment. It's fine. Regarding the
creator himself, I think he's just a right person.
And he got his political view. And I don't have
nothing against him. I don't think that he's
a fascist, to be honest. Just a person that I
think in that way, that we need to accept. Simple
like that. Yeah, because depending on the technology
you use in our day and age, it defines you as
a person. And it's like, yeah, you know. Sorry,
nobody can define me as a person. I can use whatever
I want. Iberland, for example. is belonging to
the faction of the non -wok. So if you use Hyperland,
you're a non -wok. But Hyperland was not included
inside the Void repository because the Void guys
are against him. So if you use Void, you're a
wok. Fuck you. Sorry. Fuck you. You're right.
100 % agree. Yeah, because I see comments like
that in my videos and I'm like... This is ignorance.
Come on, sorry. What does this have to do with
technology? You're right. It just divides people
and it doesn't make sense at all. Yeah. And on
servers, which destroyer do you say is the king?
Debian, right? Absolutely. Come on. Yes. There
is no way. I think Debian. I think it would be
a nice experiment to... I don't know if someone
did. I will try this. I was thinking the other
day, Slackware on server. Because Slackware is
quite stable distro. Do you know what I mean?
I don't know about distros. But you explain.
Slackware is the queen. If Debian is the king,
Slackware is the queen. Okay, of stability. It's
very stable. Yes, it's very Unix -like. It's
very KISS. Keep it very difficult. But it's honest
because everything is transparent. It's in your
hands. You need to do everything by you. But
I love it. I'm loving the experience. And it's
very educative. If you want to learn Linux, you
must use Slackware. You will learn Linux. You
learn a lot of things. I was getting mad. Before
these days, because, you know, I tried to set
up the webcam. Oh, my God. It was fog was out
of my head. Trust me, the fog was mad. I was
not able to do it. But I did a nice configuration
on the computer. You need time. You need time.
But, you know, when I finish the setup, I will
not change the distro. The distro will stay with
the computer until the computer exists. So, otherwise
it will be, it makes no sense for me to spend
one month or two months to do everything and
then wipe everything, you know? Yep, yep, yep,
yep. That's actually the reason why I don't switch
over to Linux, you know, because... Why? Because
it will take me a lot of time, and I don't have
the time, and I don't have the energy to do it.
I'm tired. I don't want to do it. I don't want
to spend time. You are listening to my experience,
and I'm sharing the time I tried Blackwell after
more than 20 years. You don't need to have that
experience. You can have another experience.
If you start debbing, you don't lose any time.
Do you know what I mean? Yeah. that's what i'm
thinking i have been thinking about debian but
i've also been thinking about arch so it's like
uh you know i will i will say i will suggest
you because you are very i think you like stability
i will suggest you if you want to install a rolling
release you need to install void if you're looking
for stability okay there is no other option no
other way but do i have obs and stuff to record
and all that U .F .O .B .S. Yes. I think I don't
feel it. I don't know. Sorry, before I say yes.
Might be no, because there is not so much. Now,
let's take a look at your channel. Let me take
a look at your channel real quick. Yes. Because
I noticed that you have 21 ,000 subscribers.
384 videos. And I thought, you know, this channel
must be old. Yeah, I thought your channel was
old because you have a lot of subscribers, a
lot of videos. Then I came here and I noticed
that your channel a year and a half ago. And
I'm like, God damn. How? You know, how? Because
you do all the writing on these, right? Well,
what's your secret for YouTube, actually? Because,
you know, you have a pretty good audience. You
asked me a question that I don't know how to
answer. I know that people love me. I receive
a lot of also private message of guys that follow
me. And I really, I'm sorry if I can't answer
to everybody, but trust me, this channel is like,
it's a big effort for me now. because I am working
10 hours per day for four days per week and all
the rest is the channel. There is nothing else.
Nothing else. My family and the channel. Nothing
else. It's a big effort. Trust me. It's a huge
sacrifice. And also the way I create the video
is quite more difficult because you open your
microphone, you open your camera, you can start
to speak. I need to write my script. Yeah. And
you need to find the B -roll, right? The videos.
For example, now I'm working on three videos,
okay? The history of wallpaper and the history
of troll. And, you know, I'm online, always on
Zen browser to find, read old posts of Reddit,
look for documentation. Sometimes it is exhausting
because you need to do deep research. Deep, deep
research. And have you felt burned out of doing
this? Because making videos is not easy. Yes.
Yes. Sometimes, yes. I feel it. It's difficult.
Yes. Sometimes I got probably... let me check,
20 videos that I will never be public, because
at one point you think that nothing is enough.
You have this problem. You think, okay, this
video is not good. I will not publish now. This
video, no, I will publish later. And then, now
I start to say, don't care. Just publish. Some
videos are very light, but some videos are very
controversial. But I want to take care of them
before to make it public. Do you know what I
mean? I don't want to say bullshit, to be honest.
Especially when you have a big audience. I think
it's important that you at least you do more
than one, two or three check. To think what you
say. Yeah, definitely. To think what you say.
Yes. Do you want to share with us about your
background, studies, life? Whatever you want
to share. What do you want to keep private? Whatever
you want to share with us. I don't have a scientific
background. I studied in the college Latin and
Greek. And then I went in the history in university
for a lawyer. I was almost a lawyer. And then
something in my life changed and I totally changed
field. I went in the healthcare. I work for the
healthcare. That's all. That's my background.
More or less. Okay. Okay. I'm not a scientific
person. I'm much more humanistic. My big passion
are history, philosophy, geography. Oh, I see.
Okay. I also see that your videos, you don't
have any... um sponsorships do you have any thoughts
on that like ads on videos when people contact
you if you want to promote something and you
know any thoughts also is also right on my contact
form is very explicit i will not accept any kind
of sponsorship even for one million of dollars
i think this is a very clear message even that
and probably a lot of youtuber will let me i
receive every day Proposal for sponsorship. Just
today I received a proposal of sponsorship from,
what's the name? I don't say the company anyway,
but a company that creates some servers and stuff.
But I even don't answer. I don't, absolutely
against the sponsorship. I think that I did a
bond with my, a deal with my audience. That what
I'm saying is free. I'm independent. They are
there because they know that they listen to me.
Not because someone paid me. Nobody will pay
me. Nobody. What I'm saying is what I want to
say. That's an important... Because, you know,
YouTube has begun to commercialize too much.
We don't have three voices. If Framework gives
me a laptop, okay, to review. Do you think that
next year I will do a negative review? Come on.
I will not. They give to me 1 ,000 pounds or
2 ,000 pounds of laptop. I will not. But this
affects my freedom, and this is very important
for me. My intellectual freedom is essential.
Absolutely. I'll never ask, I'll never, never,
never accept any kind of sponsorship, even for
one million dollars. You think you say like that.
If someone contact me and give me $1 million,
I will not accept. You need to have some value.
If you have the value, you don't care about the
money. Okay. I mean, we can do both things. I
am on YouTube because I made money from YouTube.
I'm not hypocrite. I think it should be a balance.
Do you know what I mean? It's not too much. Sometimes
some channels are just shopping. Give me a like,
subscribe, offer me a coffee. Come on. Sorry.
Can you believe you're going to a lawyer in the
big office? Yes. Pay the parcel for $1 ,000.
And the lawyer told you, can you buy me a coffee?
Fuck you. Sorry. Sorry. Why? Please, guys. Are
you talking about me? Hold on. No, no. I don't
talk about you. I talk in general. I'm never
about you. I'm playing. I just needed to charge
my phone. As a YouTuber... I say to the guys
on my channel, guys, spend that money for you.
Go on a bench, buy the coffee for you, and enjoy
life. Don't worry about me. I'm okay. As a content
creator or YouTuber, whatever you want to call
it, do you still watch YouTube? That's a big
problem. No. Now, let me tell you what happened
with me. I used to watch YouTube a lot in the
past. And I used to follow all these tech channels
and I loved it, you know. But when I started
doing YouTube, I understood what the game was.
And I know what everyone is behind, you know.
They just want the likes. They just want the
money. And when I watch a video now, I just think
he just wants me to watch it. And he engineered
the video so that I click on it and I watch it.
So I don't enjoy YouTube anymore. Did that happen
to you? I call this the, you know, we went through
different phases of Internet. There was the free
world, the social world of Internet. Now it's
the algorithm Internet. Everything is created.
Also the video. I know very well when I create
a video that will never reach 1 ,000 views. I
know. I know the topic. Some topic is pointless
that you use it. If you look at my channel, I
got three videos above 100 ,000 views. And the
only one that is acceptable is the history of
Ubuntu. is the history of Ubuntu. It's a nice
video, I think. But the other videos, to be honest,
I feel shy. When I watch it, I say, fuck, now
it's possible. I get mad. Now it's possible.
Why? They don't give me the chance to be seen
by thousands of people with my best video and
not with the shit video that I create. Which
one? This one? Which one is this one? The rise
and fall of Linux for human beings. I think this
is a nice video. It speaks about the history
of Ubuntu. But the history of WinBot is a fucking
problem. You know, I mean, if it's 1 ,000 or
10K, for me, it doesn't matter. It's not so relevant.
You need to look for the big tech life. This
is a nice video. It was a surprise for me. Oh,
okay. I love this video. The big decline. I love
it. And then there are a lot of nice videos that
have very few views. Trust me. Yeah. They deserve
more. Happens to me as well all the time. So
do you enjoy watching YouTube then or not anymore?
I enjoy watching just very few YouTubers. And
thanks, Lord, I got... I think the two best YouTubers
in the world are Italians. So I watch them. Davey504.
Sorry? Have you ever watched Davey504? He's a
bass player. Davey504, no? No. But I want to
mention them because I think they are... One
is Ricardo Palombo. He speaks about technology
and computers. Let me see. Palombo, you said,
right? Ricardo Palombo is a great guy. He's amazing.
He's very competent. You can feel the love about
the technology and everything. Yes, he's a nice
guy. He's very nerdy on hardware as well. And
another one is Salvatore Sanfilippo is the creator
of Redis. That is another high -level channel.
He deserves one million of subscribers. Sanfilippo,
like this, probably? This one? Yes, it's him.
Yes. He's the creator of Redis. And, you know,
he speaks about artificial intelligence. He uses
very deep topics on a high level. and i watch
and i enjoy just watching i rarely comment because
i you know when you find something that is very
high in the qualities you don't want to destroy
with your comments yes genuine channels okay
okay interesting i didn't know about these Okay.
Yes. These guys, you know, sometimes they do
videos in English as well. Oh, so he speaks in
Italian in his videos mainly then, right? Yes.
Yes. Yes. Oh, okay. But some of them are in English.
Okay. Well, Italian and Spanish sound kind of
similar, but I will not understand. Yeah. No.
Yeah. We have another super chat here. Let me
switch here. That's me that can eat away the
money. Yeah, that's bad for you, I think. Though,
buying myself a coffee says, Ruman Intellectual
Freedom, $19 .99. Really appreciate that, Ruman.
That's my CEO right there. Okay. Okay. What are
your thoughts on NixOS? Wait, I want to tell
you another thing. I need to go to the toilet.
Okay, yeah, go. I need three seconds. Okay, yeah,
it's fine. What's up, chat? Why is he wearing
a mask? Is someone wondering why is you wearing
a mask? Like, what is this? You guys remember
the Pulp Fiction movie? No? Yeah. Man, I should
have gone as well. No, because I haven't finished
my water yet, you know? So once I finish this,
I have an hour and I need to go like an old man.
No, not an hour, two hours, three hours. I don't
know. Let's see. Where's the Pulp Fiction scene
that I'm trying to look for? Man. What is that
called? Mask? Is this what is going on in the
channel? Oh, my God. Now, now, Chad is asking.
Oh, my God. Now, you, Chad is asking, like, is
this what's going on? Have you watched this movie,
Pulp Fiction? Pulp Fiction, yes. Is this what's
happening in the channel right now? Because it
feels like it, you know? What's up? what's up
with the mask what i think can i say is software
is a proprietary garbage next next is a nice
pro nice nice project i tried so it's totally
different from the other distro you you do everything
on your configuration files and also you have
something like that you recover your system is
a rollback system yeah but it's very it's very
nice project i think it's not for everybody but
it's very interesting you know because there
are a lot of this so that they are the same with
each other and this one is got his way okay he
deserves to exist he deserves to exist i will
say okay now also is an answer Okay, now the
honest opinion, please. Oh, no, that's the honest
opinion. That's the honest opinion, yes. Oh,
no, it's really what I think. I don't have mercy
for nobody. So don't worry. If I think something,
I will say. Okay. I don't like that factness.
You know, I was thinking that you... that you
invite YouTubers to speak. Until now, you invite
just YouTubers that I like. They are very nice
guys. Do you know what I mean? So very polite,
very kind guys. So I'm sorry that sounds... It
is what it is. What do you think about the queen?
The queen, the goat, Andrea Borman? That's the
myth. She's amazing. She's amazing. Yes, she
is. She is. Yeah, well done. Because my keyboard,
I don't know what's happening to my keyboard
today. It doesn't want to work. It's me. It's
the mask. Yeah, yeah. Why the mask, though? Do
you want to share with us why the mask? Because
my... I take care about my privacy, my identity.
I don't want to show I am online. I think if
you are, you can be a target about a lot of things.
Also, you know, I think when you show your face,
you have a filter as well. You cannot say whatever
you think. Because you show your face, your family,
what you, your friends, what you, it's different.
You have to hold back. Yes, I think it's coherent
with the message of my channel, you know? I speak
about digital freedom and I speak about the system
of control against the system of control. It
makes sense, absolutely. Okay. It's not something
unexpected if you watch my video to see me in
this way. Sorry. Okay. What are your thoughts?
Something controversial. What are your thoughts
on macOS? Is Linux became mainstream? Do you
want the Linux for everybody? You already have
it. It's Unix macOS. It's better than BSD. So
it's Unix. I'm not sure. But I think he got a
certification, a Unix certification as well.
Yes, it is. They are very similar systems. It's
just a mainstream system. What the people...
Because now there is this big trend of Linux.
They think that Linux will become mainstream.
Linux will never become mainstream. It's not
mainstream. It's not for your grandma. It's not
for your mom. Linux is for people that want to
understand, that believe in a specific way of
technology. It's a philosophy. It's open source.
It's ability to watch, to look inside the code.
And this idea to change Linux in something that
is not Linux, I don't agree with that. So what
I think, I actually use OS X, I think, like during
2009 and 2011, something like that. Well, for
the user interface, it's amazing. It's a masterpiece.
If someone says something that is different,
he doesn't understand about user interface. Aqua's
interface is a milestone. It's the top level.
But do you know what they did now? How is your
control center now? Oh, I didn't upgrade to the
newest one. Don't, please. Keep the old one.
You know, I'm mad for these things because that
type of control center is an archetype. It works.
It's like that. And why are you going to change?
It makes no sense. And you mean with the new
version with the glassy one, right? No, no, no,
no. I mean the disposition of the... of the elements
are totally different now the old the old control
center is was very simple and i think it was
a mistake to change it in my opinion yeah what
version do you know what version do you you have
mac os 26 or is it i i think that i use maverick
probably I'm not sure. That was like 10 years,
more than 10 years ago. Oh, I see. No, 10 years
ago. Okay, okay, okay. It was 10 years ago. Okay.
And do you have any thoughts on the hardware,
on the Apple hardware? Not the Intel ones, not
the Intel ones, but the new M series. Yeah, it's
the best one. Come on. What they did with the
M1 is something that is destroy everything. We
still didn't realize what they did. They did
something great. Whoa. If I don't say that, I
will not understand about technology. What they
did with the M1, with the Apple M1, with the
silicon, is something unbelievable, in my opinion.
They reach a balance between durability of battery,
performance, durability of the hardware, design.
That is still now. But this Lenovo X1, okay,
is the nano version, okay? I did some hack to
try to make the battery more efficient, but it
will last three hours, four hours. I think with
an Apple, you can stay for 20 hours. Yeah, they
did something great. It's still now. Still now,
I saw some video of some guys, because now they
are trying to move the X -Dragon on Windows.
I think Ubuntu got a version for the Snapdragon,
but they are still not at the same level. They're
still not there. I'm waiting on that. I'm waiting
on ARM to get to Linux, you know, and see what
Linux will do with that architecture. I think
it will be great. I think we will have a lot
of fun because also RISC -V, it will be very
interesting. I'm looking for that as well. I'm
very obsessed about that. I think it will be
the next big thing. Yeah, definitely. And Windows,
what do you think about Windows? It's just an
overdrive system carried on by Microsoft. I cannot
tell you what I think, sorry. Change question.
Well, no, of course, this is just a stereotype,
but I'm a Linux user, you know. It's a decent
operating system. It works. It's easy to use.
But I want to be very gentle. Trust me. I don't
want to sound like the classic Linux user that
speaks against Windows. I don't like it. And
when I do video, of course, what they did with
Windows 11 was just a gift to Linux and other
systems. They make a lot of others to be old
and they also they spare you. And, you know,
I think the ethical aspect of the operating system
is important because we now we got private life,
but also digital life. And in our digital technological
life, we put a lot of our private life. I mean,
in the computer, we use a lot of private photo,
private details, bunker details, a lot of things.
And if they spy you, they control you. Your life
can be in the hands of someone else. That's why
it's important to don't use proprietary system.
Okay. Now, I also... I want to talk about the
free word in the free and open source community
because people take the free part seriously,
too seriously, right? Because all of these applications
are developed by someone that puts their time,
effort, life on them, right? You hear all the
people saying, but it's free and open source.
I don't have to pay for anything. It's free.
That's the problem. I don't have to donate, you
know. There's someone that pays the price, right?
There's someone, and it's usually who? The developer,
right? They have to work for a big corporation
to sustain themselves and work on open source
when they have time. Thoughts, solutions? What
do you want to share with us about that? that's
part of unfortunately it's it's um you know i'm
trying to on my channel as well to every time
i'm doing when i did the video of zory no s i
donate 50 pounds to kdn life with this video
i take the opportunity to donate as well being
Using open source software, meaning being part
of a community, is not just using the software.
It's not free. It's free, but nothing is free
for nothing. You need also to buy a prize. It
can be a good prize or a bad prize. It depends
on you. We cannot just receive and receive. We
can also give. It's important to give. I cannot
just get and get. So, I mean, all of my videos
speak about open source project. And listen,
I'm very lucky because I think there is material
for three lives to create with you. Like a million.
You know what I mean? It's an amazing world.
It's full of projects. And I think we, we, they
deserve a lot, at least for me. They give me
a system. They give freedom. They keep my data
safe. And a lot of tools. All of them free. I
need to give something. Come on. How you cannot
give? If you don't give, you're wrong. The system
will collapse. That's why it's important for
us. That's why I'm trying to, you know, when
you... It's not ontological correct to speak
bad about the other YouTubers. You know? But
I'm trying to... I'm trying to force this on
my channel to like make a claim of the channel
to donate, donate, donate. I also donate part
of my AdSense revenue to an open source project.
It's important. Otherwise the system sooner or
later will collapse. We need to learn. Consider
that on my server I got just open source project
and I got my I'm free of Google. i got my search
engine i got my email i got my netflix i got
my google photo that is open sources normal one
photo is it you know emic no no it's just something
like google photo even better like manager for
the next cloud something like something like
next cloud no no next cloud is a is a cloud service
it's a cloud application IMIC is, I cannot share
with you the screen because I'm here. You can
check. Let me see. IMIC. IMIC. IMIC. I see it
here. Hold on. Let me see. Let me switch here.
This one? That's very interesting. Yeah, you
can do it as well because it's on Docker, yes.
Exactly, this one. Oh. And, you know, it's very
easy to sync with all of the devices, also iPhone,
Android. And you are totally free of Google Photo.
Oh, and you say that you can run it as a Docker
image. That's another story because I get mad
now. But anyway. Why? Why do you get mad? No,
I explain. Because I'm not there to update every
second. I did an update after three months and
they did a big change on the database. And everything
is now... I need to set up. I need time now.
Okay. Also, I got Jellyfin is another amazing
project. I used that one. Yep. It was Jellyfin.
Oh my God. Because you know, I love movie. Yeah.
I love movie. Oh my God. I'm, I watch more than
10 ,000 movies. So I'm obsessed about movies.
So for me, Jellyfin is like very important. Yes.
And also I got the, Serenix is the name. Serenix,
I don't know how to pronounce it, to be honest.
What is it? It's like a search engine, open source
search engine. Let me say that. The names are
horrible to pronounce. Yeah, Linux names. No,
it's Sierra Echo Alpha Romeo X -Ray Nano Gamma.
Oh, I think I found it. Let's see. yeah this
one it's very nice yes yes it is yes it's a meta
search engine you can use inside you can use
different search engine with one interface now
you also mentioned that you have your own mail
server isn't that too complicated to maintain
Listen, it's one of the most... I didn't know
that it was so complicated. And when I read that
the email is free, that everybody can do the
email, that's not true. I'm sorry to penalize
your video, because I'm speaking about Google,
because this video will be another shadow now.
Yes, 100%. But they have a lot of filter. You
need to set up a lot of things and they are in
control of Outlook and Google. A lot of protocol
and it's very difficult to do it. Yes, it's extremely
difficult. It's not free at all. It's not free
at all. If they decide that you are spam, you
don't have any money. You don't have no one to
represent you and you're basically screwed, right?
Yes. Yes. Now, going back to all of these projects
that we use open source, right? Because the only
thing that's stuck in the community is free,
free, free. And that's what everyone repeats.
Free, free, free. You don't need to pay anything.
It's free, free, free. Free in the words. Yes.
But not free for the developer because he's leaving
his bag there. It's live. So how can we change
that? What can we do? You know, you need to donate
a lot. I think we should start to. Payment. So
the culture that should be free of price is wrong.
Making payment, sorry, I will be happy to pay
to Emic or Jellyfin. Of course, not 25 pounds
per year. Oh, but how do you think that open
source community would take that? Let's say that
Jellyfin comes tomorrow. What is the problem?
Now, for example, Jellyfin is very popular. It's
an amazing project. Maybe it's just me and you.
But I think you will pay as well. You will be
happy to pay. Because, you know, the donation,
you donate to one project. But then you cannot
donate to everything. You focus on something.
It will be easier for me to pay. I will be happy
to pay. Absolutely. I think we need to change.
It's something that now we need to change. Because
this big corporation got a lot of power. And
the open source is at risk for the open source
now to collapse. To be in control. So we need
to find a balance between freedom and independence
as well. Because no money, no independence. Yep.
No money. You probably have to rely on a big
corporation that is just watching you and it's
going to offer you something. You're probably
going to need it. You don't have support from
your community. So what are you going to do?
Yes. But this is a topic that the people doesn't
like. I know. Believe me. I know. I know. They
don't like it at all. I get, you know, a lot
of people that leave my channel. I get negative
comments. I don't care, to be honest with you.
You know, it's fine. You know. And let's see.
Do you want to talk about, I don't know, non
-related, non -technical stuff? I want to talk
about artificial intelligence. Oh, yeah. Why
you commented on my video that you think the
time I eat and it was moderated. Fuck you. Fuck
you as well. No, I was messing with you. I was
messing. Listen, artificial intelligence doesn't
exist. It's not intelligence. The concept of
intelligence is not the claim of the artificial
intelligence. Artificial intelligence is just
a mathematic system to the human language. That's
different. It gives you the right answer, but
it doesn't know what it's doing. And that's different.
It's not an entity. It's not a subject. It doesn't
have any willing. I'm trying to explain this
to the people, but that's another big fog. You
know, it's like the COVID. Uh -huh. You know,
during the COVID, you got the function of the...
I work in healthcare. I mean, I'm not a scientist,
but I work in healthcare. You have that one that
say, no, the virus doesn't exist. And the one
that say, no, if you touch me, I get the virus.
The mask inside the car, that's extremization,
you know, ignorance. That's ignorance, sorry.
So I think the people doesn't know what is really
artificial intelligence. It's absolutely, they
don't have idea. So what are your thoughts on
AI then? Do you like AI? You don't like it? AI
is a tool. Of course I like. It's a tool. It's
a tool in our hands, but we need to give AI the
right meaning. Yep. Do you know what I mean?
Yep. Have you never tried to ask a question to...
I get mad because the people said to me, okay,
this video is AI -generated. Fucking hell. Can
you try, please, to make cloud or chat GPT to
generate a script for a video, and then we will
see. Fucking hell. Fucking hell. Oh, man. Okay.
You heard my English. I write in Italian. I know
how to write. I will teach ChatGPT to write.
Trust me. I know ChatGPT that teach me how to
write. Let me show you. Let me show you something.
No, one day I asked. Sometimes I use. I went
to ask to Cloud a question about the C programming
language. He invented the name. He invented the
link. He gave me everything fails. It's not reliable.
Sorry. Let me show you something. Look at this.
You see this thumbnail that I have here, right?
This is a clip that I released today. Wayland
versus X11. The conversation that I had with
other four guests. You see that thumbnail, right?
But I asked AI for an idea so that it generated
a thumbnail. Look at this. What the fuck? Which
AI have you used? This is ChatGPT 5 .2. And do
you know something? That is getting worse. Yeah,
it wasn't this bad. It's getting very worse.
It wasn't this bad. It wasn't so bad. No, it
wasn't. I start to use Canva now. I used to use
ChatGPT for Tumblr. Now I'm using Canva. That's
very bad. I use Canva for my thumbnails as well.
It depends. But some people complain about the
AI -generated tumble. I say, what do you want,
a tiara designer to create a tumble? Or draw
it, right? Draw it and paint it by hand. Yes,
it's original. And then I want to tell you this.
And if it was AI, what is the difference? And
if AI discovered a physical law, what do we do?
The physical law is not valid. We recover and
we let the humans... Sorry, guys. We need to
be... If it's written with AI or not, it doesn't
matter. Do you know what I mean? So what he says
is true or it's fake? Yeah. Is it correct or
not? That's the point. Right? Is it useful or
not? That's the point. Exactly. Focus on that.
I agree. I will tell you another thing. A lot
of YouTubers that show their face, read the screen
with the chat GPT script, and nobody complains.
Exactly. Exactly. Now, something that I have
noticed recently, and this didn't happen two,
three years ago, is that everyone is writing
their own plugins magically out of nowhere. Nobody
uses AI. Just listen to me. Nobody uses AI, but
everyone is writing their own plugins. Everyone,
any of them at least, is ditching their plugins
and building their own custom solutions, but
nobody's using AI. So, nah, it's bullshit. Everyone's
using AI. Do you know what is AI? It's like newborn.
It's the same. Nobody watch it. But it's the
most missed website in the world. Oh, fuck you.
You are hypocrite. Sorry. Yeah, this video is
definitely going to be demonetized. When they
see the mask, YouTube is going to be, no, man,
what type of wild stuff is this? And now we're
talking about all this. I'm just kidding. I'm
just kidding. Probably sorry I did wrong to mention
the website. Sorry, but you can... No, no, it's
fine. I don't care. No, I don't care. I don't
care, to be honest. Okay, anything else they
want to share with us about AI? Well, what I
have to share with you about AI, I told you,
in my opinion, the people misunderstand what
AI is. They give the meaning that AI is an entity.
AI is not an entity, it's a tool. It's like a
calculator of the human language. It's different.
I'm concerned about this, about how important
for the people is AI. Because when they open
chat GPT and chat GPT speak, they think that
that one is true. And it's not like that. That's
the control, because they are not aware. It's
just an algorithm. You know the transformer,
right? It's just the transformer. Okay, there
is the machine learning and everything, but it's
just an algorithm. It's just maths. The human
thinking is different. Nobody in the world knows
what is really the human thing. Nobody can replicate.
We are unique. I did a video where it was in
Overshadow. I don't know why. When I try to explain
why our brain is extremely superior to any type
of computer or supercomputer or large language
model. But it went in other shadow. Okay. Yeah.
Happens with YouTube a lot. Okay. Are there any
other topics that you want to talk about? I don't
know. You. Tell me you're atopic. Come on. What
are your thoughts on substance abuse, drugs,
alcohol, and all that stuff? I never smoked marijuana
in my life. I never used any type of drugs. The
people that I came from is something that we
don't do it. And I don't like people that get
drunk. I don't need to drink alcohol to be myself.
I can be myself. I know. I always say that I
know who I am. I know where I came from. And
I know where I will go. I ate. I ate. I live
in UK. And trust me, for me, it's a problem.
Because you have the people need to get drunk
to socialize, to speak with you. And that's very
sad. I'm drunk by nature. Do you see me? I don't
need the alcohol. No, absolutely. I never smoke
marijuana. When I say this, the people don't
believe me. I don't believe you. No, it's true.
I'll tell you a funny story, okay? I went to
a raid party. Because in London, everybody does
drugs. Just me, probably. Another one. I never
meet someone like me. I went to this rave party.
Of course, there was probably 75 people, no,
girl and boy. Music, they do amphetamine, blah,
blah, blah. Like around 5 .30 in the morning,
all of them was like, I get up on the sofa, on
the floor, and a girl come to me and say, sorry,
which drug are you using? I say, I cannot tell
you. It's a secret. I never used any drugs. I
was just enjoying and speaking with everybody.
Yeah. I did it in the past when I was younger.
You know, I did a lot. I did a lot of drinking,
drugs. No, I was lucky because I grew up in an
environment where we grew up with strong value.
And like small villages. And I'm happy about
that. I was lucky. I was lucky. Yes. Oh, okay.
Okay. Awesome. And do you want to share with
us, I don't know, two of your favorite movies?
Do you have any movies? Well, you said that you
like watching a lot, a lot of movies, but you
want to share with us two of them. Two of them.
2001 Space Odyssey, I think is the best movie
ever created. The movie that I watch most probably,
I watch 13 times or 14 times, is 12 Angry Men.
Hold on, let's see. I suggest you to watch it.
You understand why the movie now is shit. Okay,
so you said this one, 2001, Space Odyssey. Do
you never watch? I have not watched this one,
no. Oh my God. Oh my god, that was possible,
fucking hell. Have you watched this one? Have
you watched this one? Hold on. Oh shit, I changed
my keyboard. This one. Have you watched this
one from 2003? It's Korean. Old Boy. What's the
name of the movie? Old Boy. No, no. I don't watch
this kind of movie. No? It's good. It's good.
You should watch it. Twelve Angry Men. Twelve?
Hold on. Angry Men. Oh, sheesh. Yes. Oh, this
one. Yes, exactly. From 1957. Trust me, that
movie is absolutely a masterpiece. If you watch,
you will be shocked. It's a masterpiece. I'll
give it a try. Believe me. Believe me. You must
trust me. You must watch that movie. Believe
me. I'll tell you just one detail. All the movie
is shot inside the room. Okay? There is no outside,
no inside. The movie is inside the room. Everything
is movement. Everything is face. Everything is
facial expression. And, you know, you feel that
movement. You feel the tension. It's amazing.
They don't need big effects. They don't need
nothing. When you know how to act, when you know
how to shoot, there is no way. That's the problem.
That movie is amazing. I watched more than 10
times. I enjoyed it. Yes, yes, yes. I love it.
I'll take a look. Do you want to share with us
your favorite music bands, if you have any? Beethoven
is my favorite music band. I like classical music.
Classical, okay. Classical, also like the Queen.
Music is my weakness, I must admit. I'm not too
much into music. Oh, okay. Yes. Okay, okay. But
I like the classic music. I like the rock band,
The Queen. Okay, okay. Do you like reading? Do
you read some book? I should. No? I should read
more, but I don't. No, I don't know. Okay. What
books do you recommend? Which ones are your favorite
ones? If you don't read too much, that's probably...
No, your cup of tea. No, but... For the audience,
you know, or maybe I decide to read it someday.
Well, probably it's a large number of people,
but I love Shakespeare. Okay. For example, I
love Hemingway. Neruda is a poet, he's from Chile.
Shakespeare, I'm crazy about Shakespeare. Dante,
you know Dante? Yep, yep. Dante, Shakespeare,
this is my kind of literature. Literature, okay.
They are not exactly novels. For novels, I will
say also, there is a book here. Murakami. This
is Japanese. He's an amazing writer. He's an
amazing writer, Murakami. I love Murakami, yes.
And also there is a woman writer that I love
how she writes. She's from Canada. The name is
Alice Monroe. And she won the Nobel Prize, but
I love her. She writes in an amazing way. All
right. All right, you. Appreciate all of that.
Are there any final thoughts or any final words
that you want to share with us? Any final topics?
We didn't say anything technical, right? Because
Fedora 43. Fedora 43. Yeah, man. Amazing interview.
Amazing interview. That one was epic. Yeah. That
one was epic. I watch it and I just, you know,
not in a bad way, but I laugh. I enjoy it, you
know, but I laugh. She didn't want to finish.
No, no. She said when we started the interview,
she said half an hour. And we were talking for
two hours. Half an hour for what? For the beginning?
Yeah. At the beginning, she said, yeah, half
an hour is fine. Let's just do half an hour.
You know, if I'm in a rush and the last person
that I want to meet in the street is Andrea Borman,
to be honest. Probably I will lose at least one
hour just to say good morning and see you later.
You know what I mean? Yeah. And so she's going
to try to switch over to Linux Mint. Let's see
if she watches this interview. Andrea, if you're
watching this, leave a comment down below because
you is a fan. I'm a fan too. I'm a fan of Andrea.
But Andrea comments to my videos as well a lot.
All the time. Okay. Yes, yes. Most of the time
I try to reply to her, but you know, when you
receive so many comments, it's impossible. That's
very difficult for me to manage the comments.
It's a problem. I leave it as they are. I can
no answer, sorry. I would love, but it's impossible.
You receive 100 comments, you need to read it.
It's crazy. Yeah. and reply to all of them yeah
it's it's it's important for the algorithm is
very important to give an answer to the comments
i think is important i don't care about the algorithm
to be honest you algorithm as well okay so so
but i i give you the um the idea to about the
channel you need to you need to create what i
say to you Oh, before the tweet was public. Split
it, split the channel. Yeah, I have thought about
that. You know, I asked in Discord, should I
split? Because you know what happens with my
channel, you know, like, OK, these videos are
two hours long, some of them three hours long.
And people watch them on average for, let's say,
18 minutes, right? 18, some of them 14 minutes.
But then when I release a 10 minute video, YouTube
thinks it's shit because. It's not watched for
14, for 10 minutes. So I don't know if that affects
my channel. Having huge videos and small videos
at the same time, I have no idea. I think that
the long video... The short videos are shit,
you're going to say. No, no, no. It's not like
that. I think that the long video gives you performance
with the time. For YouTube, it's better a long
video, according to their mind. Because they
can put a lot more ads. Yeah, they do. And, you
know, it's always more convenient to create a
long video. But also, you need to keep the audience
to watch the video. Nobody watches such a long
video. Well, I watch all the interviews. All
of them. Oh, you do, but it's a small percentage
of people that watches the entire thing. What
are your stats about how many percentage on two
hours? Below 10? Let me see. I'm going to tell
you right now. Let's see. If we switch here.
Hold on. There is this thing. It's a different
screen. Okay. Here, here. You see it there? Let's
take a look at the Andrea Borman video. This
is two hours long, right? Open the statistic
and go down. Oh, $8. Go down. $8. God. Come on,
you are rich, man. I'm rich. You are rich, man.
What is your... Your CPM is not so bad. Go down.
Down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down,
down, down, down. Down? Here. Ah, yes. Look at
this. So, you see? Ah, yes. That's normal. Consider
it when I... when i create a video that is like
eight minutes it can also be reached 51 percent
here oh 51 oh yeah that is quite good if the
video is 20 minutes is go below it's normal yeah
let me show you another one look at this for
example a short one write this this is a short
one 12 and this video is 10 minutes right And
people to watch it, right? Yes, a lot. And the
curve like that, meaning a lot. Because they
mean that all the people that was on the video
stay until the end. It's quite positive. That's
why you get the same amount of money. Because
in this way, they can show two ads to them. Do
you know what I mean? It's a balance. I'm not
creating my video for the ads, to be honest.
I'm not thinking about that. Of course, I look
at the statistics as well. I try to understand
what... But not for the ads. Because you can
understand... I would love to understand why
in the first 20 seconds a lot of people leave.
You know, because I think a lot of people click
and leave, click and leave. You are in that move.
Exactly. But, you know, studying and understanding
the algorithm of YouTube is very interesting.
Because, like, everybody wants to understand
how it works. And I understand that Tidal and
Tumble are extremely important. They are very
important. Much more than the content. I know,
it's a shame, but it's like that. That's why
there is a clickbait, you know? But if they click
and the video is not good, they leave, right?
So your videos are good. That's why they stay.
Of course, the video should be good. Okay. But
your video can be amazing. If you miss the title
and dumbbell, it's finished. Goodbye. Adios.
Okay, I got two videos. One about the history
of Docker container. and another one that is
about digital freedom okay they are very good
video even from the statistic the history of
docker it got 100 of like is the only video on
my channel and he did like 2k view and i get
i i get more than more than like 25 subscriber
just for this one exactly But you know, it never
exploded. Never, ever, ever. I don't know why.
This one? Yes. Oh. Never. I don't know why. And
it's just the moment. If I republish this video,
it can get 100 ,000 views. I already did. I already
did in the past. With a video about the explanation
of the ODF document format. I published it like
one year ago, and it gets probably less than
1 ,000 views. Then I downloaded the video. I
changed the first 20 seconds and the last 20
seconds, and the video gets 50 ,000 views. And
did you delete the old video? No, you don't need
to delete any video. No? For YouTube, it's a
new video. If you change the beginning and the
end, it just isn't... The moment itself is not
important. It's just random. You know, maybe
tomorrow I publish a video and my video gets
25k view. It's not about that video itself. It's
also about the algorithm moment where my channel
is. Maybe in that moment it's low and they get
20k. if in another six months he can get 100k
the same video or one million of me do you know
it's it's very random it's a roulette yeah it
is a roulette it creates a lot of mechanism mechanic
that are like no link with the quality absolutely
yeah because all the content all the content
became the same no Or to extreme or to, I don't
know. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Okay. You, we're going
to be ending the stream here. We, we, well, not
we, but chat donated $50. You can see that here.
Do you see the little bar here at the bottom?
It says $50, 18 cents. How many, how many super
chat do we get? Let's see. Let's scroll. Is there
a way to filter this thing? We got, let's see,
one, two, three. $20. $20. He donated $20 twice.
That's the CEO, Roman. You want to repay me?
Come on. And that's it. Okay, it's fine. So how
can I send you the money? You know what? Why
don't you donate to Caden Live, the $50, and
I will donate to the Kitty Terminal, the other
$50. Okay, I will send you by mail the receipt
of the donation. Okay. Or you can post it as
a post in your channel. Would that be okay? I
just sent to you. I don't need to post on my
channel to do sponsorship about myself. Okay.
Okay. I'm going to post it in my channel so people
can see that I did actually donate to the kitty
terminal once I, once I do it. So. Okay. Really
appreciate it. You any final words you want to
say before we, before we end the stream? Good
luck. We'll see for how long I'll be able to
continue with this podcast. You need to continue
because it's something I told you. It's very
interesting. You need to try to interview new
YouTubers. I'll keep going and we'll see how
far it goes. Because I like it. I enjoy it. You
get to meet a lot of interesting people and that
stays there forever. Crazy people as well. Crazy
people. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks to you.
Thanks, Chad. Bye.