WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.120 Liz told me today that those are lyrics of a 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:08.480 song I didn't know. So that makes me realize 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:11.140 how cultivated you are, actually, our culture. 00:00:11.699 --> 00:00:15.779 Man, that's a pretty famous song. How come you 00:00:15.779 --> 00:00:18.780 haven't heard about it? Probably because it's 00:00:18.780 --> 00:00:21.960 sung by a woman, so I don't really listen. I'm 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.199 just kidding. This is the list of topics that 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:25.780 we're going to be covering today. Can you see 00:00:25.780 --> 00:00:29.120 my screen or no? I can, yeah. You can see it? 00:00:29.179 --> 00:00:32.880 Okay. One of them is, are French folks cheap? 00:00:33.119 --> 00:00:37.600 Because I have memberships and I don't see you 00:00:37.600 --> 00:00:40.500 listed as a member in my YouTube channel. Why? 00:00:41.380 --> 00:00:43.899 What's the excuse? Let me hear it. You're living 00:00:43.899 --> 00:00:47.039 in Macau. Like, are you a refugee or something? 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:51.679 Living the John McAfee life? Read this. Read 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:58.450 this. I cannot say it. So this is the way that 00:00:58.450 --> 00:01:01.990 I imagined you. Have you seen the history of 00:01:01.990 --> 00:01:05.069 John McAfee? I did. Yeah, of course. If you're 00:01:05.069 --> 00:01:06.969 listening to this as a podcast, remember that 00:01:06.969 --> 00:01:09.129 it was originally recorded as a video. If you're 00:01:09.129 --> 00:01:10.450 not following along, you can go to my YouTube 00:01:10.450 --> 00:01:12.890 channel. My username is Linkarzu. And if you 00:01:12.890 --> 00:01:14.510 want to support me to keep this podcast going, 00:01:14.650 --> 00:01:16.849 you can donate in Ko -fi. I'm going to leave 00:01:16.849 --> 00:01:18.890 a link in the description. All right. So let's 00:01:18.890 --> 00:01:22.409 get started with this chapter then. Can you see 00:01:22.409 --> 00:01:32.219 that? I can. Okay, so chat works. We're late 00:01:32.219 --> 00:01:35.739 again. It was not my fault this time. It was 00:01:35.739 --> 00:01:41.340 G. He didn't set up his stuff right. I was using 00:01:41.340 --> 00:01:45.019 Apple stuff. That's the big problem of the day, 00:01:45.099 --> 00:01:48.659 of the century. Imagine if he would be using 00:01:48.659 --> 00:01:54.659 Linux. How would it be? You know, I meet with 00:01:54.659 --> 00:01:58.349 a friend. every two weeks for coffee, and then 00:01:58.349 --> 00:02:06.290 he almost got me to install the DHH distribution, 00:02:06.790 --> 00:02:09.550 like Omarchi, how do you call this? Omarchi? 00:02:09.610 --> 00:02:13.330 I don't know how it's said, yeah. Yeah, because 00:02:13.330 --> 00:02:16.909 I have an old MacBook Pro, like Intel, and I 00:02:16.909 --> 00:02:20.909 almost installed it, but I haven't, but almost, 00:02:21.250 --> 00:02:26.949 but I haven't. Why? Have you tried? Why? I think 00:02:26.949 --> 00:02:28.789 because I have like some other stuff that were 00:02:28.789 --> 00:02:30.930 like more important. Like I have, I don't know 00:02:30.930 --> 00:02:33.610 if you see behind, I have like a drum kit. I 00:02:33.610 --> 00:02:37.069 see your underwear in the background there. I 00:02:37.069 --> 00:02:40.889 think those are pants. That would be kind of 00:02:40.889 --> 00:02:46.409 big underwear. Uh -huh. Like pants. But yeah, 00:02:47.009 --> 00:02:49.909 I have a drum kit on the like, I'm kind of like 00:02:49.909 --> 00:02:54.419 learning drums. So I was like, yeah, fuck this. 00:02:54.500 --> 00:02:59.280 I'm going to hit the snare rather than installing 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:05.960 that thing. Yeah, I got busy with the apps. Maybe 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:09.159 I'm afraid also to like it and then to drop my 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:13.379 OS completely. You think so? Just kidding. I'm 00:03:13.379 --> 00:03:18.020 kidding. No, no, no. I still have a big list 00:03:18.020 --> 00:03:22.569 of stuff for Canavium. And after, so... Was it 00:03:22.569 --> 00:03:26.629 like maybe a month ago, the DevTools Box? Yeah, 00:03:26.629 --> 00:03:30.030 the video. Shit, I'm probably pronouncing, oh, 00:03:30.090 --> 00:03:34.389 like DevBox Tool, I forgot. DevOps Toolbox. Yep. 00:03:34.830 --> 00:03:38.949 DevOps Toolbox, yeah. Oh, man. So after he released 00:03:38.949 --> 00:03:43.889 the stuff, there's been a huge wave of subscriptions. 00:03:44.349 --> 00:03:48.729 So I can't really give up anymore. You know, 00:03:48.770 --> 00:03:54.039 there's been, I used to have like a, about like 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:58.840 almost 200 people and it now it's like 3 35 i 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:02.780 think yeah it was like a big big jump uh in very 00:04:02.780 --> 00:04:07.819 in a few days so it was uh i was like wow okay 00:04:07.819 --> 00:04:11.039 and how has that been how did that happen by 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:19.500 the way so he he reached out maybe like two or 00:04:19.500 --> 00:04:22.300 three weeks before releasing the video. And he 00:04:22.300 --> 00:04:27.699 mentioned that there is another YouTube channel. 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:32.279 I forgot and I mixed that channel with another 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:35.220 one because I don't really follow, unfortunately. 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:38.879 And then he told me there's another person who 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:44.220 was looking for Vim for macOS and he had tried 00:04:44.220 --> 00:04:48.230 several. uh, options. And then he recommended 00:04:48.230 --> 00:04:53.889 to Omen, um, uh, kind of him. And then he sent 00:04:53.889 --> 00:04:55.810 me an email to say like, he loved it. And then 00:04:55.810 --> 00:04:59.069 like, he's like super useful, like super nice. 00:04:59.189 --> 00:05:01.810 And he wants to do a video about it. So, uh, 00:05:02.170 --> 00:05:05.089 then he asked if like, I had like some message 00:05:05.089 --> 00:05:08.189 or if I could like offer something to, to his 00:05:08.189 --> 00:05:11.430 subscribers. And I was like, no, very cheap. 00:05:11.750 --> 00:05:14.790 Yeah. No, I'm kidding. But like, it would, it 00:05:14.790 --> 00:05:17.120 would, To be honest, it would be kind of complicated 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:23.439 to do. Yeah, so I just told him that we exchanged 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:28.759 several emails and maybe some issues or some 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:32.040 questions he had that he mentioned in the video, 00:05:32.100 --> 00:05:38.160 I think. Like some issues he had in Slack or 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:40.620 something, but because he didn't put Slack in 00:05:40.620 --> 00:05:48.240 the key mapping family. And yeah, I... So I was 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:55.360 telling him the kind of thing that... I don't 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:58.199 know if you can call this an advantage, but I'm 00:05:58.199 --> 00:06:01.100 very reachable. So that's kind of what I told 00:06:01.100 --> 00:06:04.120 him. All the people who like your stuff, they 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:08.240 can talk to me directly and then I'll be answering 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:12.660 quite in a timely fashion. I'm always available 00:06:12.660 --> 00:06:17.800 if somebody posts an issue on GitHub or something, 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:20.420 at least even if I don't have an answer, I need 00:06:20.420 --> 00:06:23.439 to think and digest, I would let people know 00:06:23.439 --> 00:06:26.680 like, hey, I'm here, I'll take care of that soon. 00:06:27.899 --> 00:06:31.379 And then he released, I kind of forgot about 00:06:31.379 --> 00:06:35.800 it. And then because I saw like, I don't, I didn't 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:40.790 know him. And then... one day I woke up and I 00:06:40.790 --> 00:06:43.449 see like the, my email is a pile of subscription 00:06:43.449 --> 00:06:47.350 and I'm like, what? And then, so I, so I knew 00:06:47.350 --> 00:06:50.509 because I think I have about, let's say for the 00:06:50.509 --> 00:06:56.209 past, maybe three years. Uh, no. When did I release 00:06:56.209 --> 00:07:01.399 like 2022? So there's, there's about. Maybe it 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:03.300 was slower at the beginning, but currently there's 00:07:03.300 --> 00:07:05.720 maybe about like five new subscriptions per week. 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:09.079 So it's quite common that I see like, you know, 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:11.160 I wake up and there's like, maybe there's like 00:07:11.160 --> 00:07:13.920 two new ones and the one cancellation and stuff 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:19.180 like this. But it was like 20 in one night. So 00:07:19.180 --> 00:07:22.459 probably even more because it was like 100 over 00:07:22.459 --> 00:07:25.220 like three or four days. So I was like, okay, 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:28.420 something happened. And then I remembered the 00:07:28.420 --> 00:07:30.519 video and then I checked and then it was released. 00:07:30.660 --> 00:07:34.319 And, uh, that was, that was quite funny. Uh, 00:07:34.500 --> 00:07:38.319 so yeah, it was, it was, uh, but you know, it's, 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:42.579 uh, and when I, so like the, the person I, I 00:07:42.579 --> 00:07:44.220 meet at coffee, so of course we talked about 00:07:44.220 --> 00:07:48.459 this and then he, it's quite funny because, and 00:07:48.459 --> 00:07:51.500 like friends that I have here in Macau and that, 00:07:51.500 --> 00:07:54.689 so they know what I've been doing for. the last 00:07:54.689 --> 00:07:56.829 10 years like doing my own things and stuff they're 00:07:56.829 --> 00:08:02.810 like very happy for me but on on for me i i kind 00:08:02.810 --> 00:08:09.009 of took this more like how to say like the like 00:08:09.009 --> 00:08:11.410 i was telling you the the five subscriptions 00:08:11.410 --> 00:08:16.110 i get per week kind of organically usually they 00:08:16.110 --> 00:08:21.149 usually they stay but I feel like when it's something 00:08:21.149 --> 00:08:23.449 like this, like, so there's a YouTube video, 00:08:23.490 --> 00:08:26.329 people hear about it, that they're like curious 00:08:26.329 --> 00:08:29.410 and they buy, like you, you don't really know 00:08:29.410 --> 00:08:33.490 if this is going to sustain. Okay. It's possible. 00:08:33.590 --> 00:08:36.190 It could be possible that half of them or more 00:08:36.190 --> 00:08:39.370 than 80 % of them cancel like, like the next 00:08:39.370 --> 00:08:43.850 month. So that's very cool. Like from, uh, for 00:08:43.850 --> 00:08:47.549 sure to get like someone who likes what you do. 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.100 and make like, I don't know if you saw the video 00:08:50.100 --> 00:08:53.580 is like quite high quality. Oh yeah. The edits 00:08:53.580 --> 00:08:55.639 and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, and 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:58.519 it's really like a very humorous, like it's really 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:02.240 fun. Um, so that was like really, really nice 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:06.179 for sure. Uh, that part, um, that part makes 00:09:06.179 --> 00:09:11.259 me very, uh, happy, like content, let's say it, 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:15.700 it makes, it's always, um, it's always good. 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.370 Like for sure. When, This is way more important. 00:09:18.470 --> 00:09:20.789 Even like the emails I receive, right? Like somebody 00:09:20.789 --> 00:09:23.970 who tells me like, man, this is like makes my 00:09:23.970 --> 00:09:27.129 use of my quest like so, so fun. Like I love 00:09:27.129 --> 00:09:30.690 the thing. That's kind of worth way more than 00:09:30.690 --> 00:09:35.250 money. Money is just like so that you can spend 00:09:35.250 --> 00:09:39.049 your time working on what is fun. So you'd rather 00:09:39.049 --> 00:09:44.409 get your ego bet than getting money, right? Well, 00:09:44.490 --> 00:09:48.509 yeah, but the reason is because the money issues 00:09:48.509 --> 00:09:51.950 are more or less solved already. You have to 00:09:51.950 --> 00:09:59.330 start with the money, right? And again, I'm sure 00:09:59.330 --> 00:10:02.450 I mentioned last time, but it's not like I'm 00:10:02.450 --> 00:10:06.789 20 anymore. So when you're 20, you have to take 00:10:06.789 --> 00:10:09.830 care. You may take jobs that you don't want to 00:10:09.830 --> 00:10:12.029 do, that you wouldn't do if you didn't have to, 00:10:12.049 --> 00:10:15.919 and all those things. But I'm at an age, so I 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:20.500 like turned 44. You know, I'm at an age that 00:10:20.500 --> 00:10:23.379 I'm kind of always been like this, like I want 00:10:23.379 --> 00:10:26.259 to spend the least amount of time and energy 00:10:26.259 --> 00:10:29.240 doing things that I wouldn't do if I didn't have 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:34.779 to. So, but still I, especially if kind of the 00:10:34.779 --> 00:10:37.700 life I had like traveling and ending up in like 00:10:37.700 --> 00:10:43.019 places that I had to work to even get the, be 00:10:43.019 --> 00:10:46.700 allowed to have the residency i only i only started 00:10:46.700 --> 00:10:50.259 to be able to do like okay now it's 100 my time 00:10:50.259 --> 00:10:55.659 like 10 years ago so like around 35 so it's uh 00:10:55.659 --> 00:10:58.620 but after that yeah once once you get like that 00:10:58.620 --> 00:11:02.600 money thing and i'm not a big spender either 00:11:02.600 --> 00:11:08.700 um i mean like i have a like motorbike to go 00:11:08.700 --> 00:11:11.799 around i have like good tools what i use like 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:17.100 daily i i uh like sponsorship like i sponsor 00:11:17.100 --> 00:11:21.460 like the some uh some developers and stuff okay 00:11:21.460 --> 00:11:24.860 we have to touch on that because i have a point 00:11:24.860 --> 00:11:27.299 here this is the list of topics that we're going 00:11:27.299 --> 00:11:29.159 to be covering today can you see my screen or 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:33.159 no i can yeah you can see it okay one of them 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:38.539 is our french folks cheap because i have memberships 00:11:39.230 --> 00:11:42.210 And I don't see you listed as a member in my 00:11:42.210 --> 00:11:45.629 YouTube channel. Why? What's the excuse? Let 00:11:45.629 --> 00:11:53.350 me hear it. We haven't talked about this. When 00:11:53.350 --> 00:11:57.129 you send me, there's a couple of... He's cornering 00:11:57.129 --> 00:12:06.889 me. He's cornering me live. No, there, you know, 00:12:06.909 --> 00:12:11.570 like you sent me the link that there's, um, how 00:12:11.570 --> 00:12:15.330 much is yours? Like 10? No, it's like $3, $4. 00:12:15.330 --> 00:12:19.149 I think $3. There was something like that. Okay. 00:12:19.830 --> 00:12:21.970 Even before you mentioned this, right? Like I, 00:12:22.009 --> 00:12:25.129 I sent a one time kind of money after we did, 00:12:25.149 --> 00:12:29.990 uh, which we wish you didn't, uh, like it was 00:12:29.990 --> 00:12:34.830 just like, wow, I'm happy to, to, for me, like, 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:41.080 you asking me to come on like your youtube channel 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:43.639 was and i'm grateful for it so it's just like 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.539 a fun way to say like thank you um which i'm 00:12:48.539 --> 00:12:53.019 gonna do again now but today but uh when you 00:12:53.019 --> 00:12:54.899 send me the subscription thing it doesn't show 00:12:54.899 --> 00:12:59.460 up in in my in your country in macau right exactly 00:13:00.009 --> 00:13:02.070 And I wasn't even aware that that was a thing. 00:13:02.190 --> 00:13:04.929 Can you believe this? Because Macau is, I don't 00:13:04.929 --> 00:13:07.450 know, the market is too small. So like for ages, 00:13:07.590 --> 00:13:10.230 we didn't have Netflix. We didn't have PayPal. 00:13:10.350 --> 00:13:12.370 We didn't have Amazon. We didn't have all those 00:13:12.370 --> 00:13:14.429 stuff. Because even if it's a place that has 00:13:14.429 --> 00:13:17.990 money, I guess the market is just a city. It's 00:13:17.990 --> 00:13:21.750 a small city. And like you'd send me the link 00:13:21.750 --> 00:13:23.649 and I click on the link and it just go on your 00:13:23.649 --> 00:13:25.990 YouTube channel. So I was like, what? Yeah, it 00:13:25.990 --> 00:13:30.259 could be. So I kind of have to use it. I kind 00:13:30.259 --> 00:13:33.759 of have to use a VPN to see the thing. And it's 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:36.299 like, fuck this. But I'd rather send you, I'd 00:13:36.299 --> 00:13:38.539 rather send you one time money from time to time. 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:41.700 No, but. Every time I'm on your show. But you 00:13:41.700 --> 00:13:44.139 didn't, you didn't answer the question. Are French 00:13:44.139 --> 00:13:48.720 cheap? Oh, let me ask Liz. Are French, so the 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:54.399 question is, are French people folks cheap? What 00:13:54.399 --> 00:14:02.330 do you think? Yeah. She said, no, French people 00:14:02.330 --> 00:14:04.409 are the opposite. You want to talk in the mic? 00:14:04.889 --> 00:14:09.210 You want it now? I think she said, I heard yes 00:14:09.210 --> 00:14:12.289 in the background. You said you heard yes in 00:14:12.289 --> 00:14:16.590 the background. Okay. We can't convince this 00:14:16.590 --> 00:14:21.070 guy. I think in Guatemala, I don't know what's 00:14:21.070 --> 00:14:25.450 happening with the French community there. But 00:14:25.450 --> 00:14:27.710 so did you know, did you know they have a... 00:14:28.450 --> 00:14:31.070 YouTube has some like subscription kind of thing, 00:14:31.129 --> 00:14:34.190 but in Macau, yeah. So in Macau, you can't, so 00:14:34.190 --> 00:14:36.990 there, this is something or so like, uh, in Macau 00:14:36.990 --> 00:14:40.009 watching YouTube, we don't have ads. Oh, really? 00:14:40.169 --> 00:14:43.750 Yeah. Because we don't have this kind of thing. 00:14:43.889 --> 00:14:47.049 So I think it's when I go to China and I use 00:14:47.049 --> 00:14:49.490 a VPN, I'm like, what the, and I use a, it goes 00:14:49.490 --> 00:14:52.470 through Singapore and I see like some, like three 00:14:52.470 --> 00:14:55.269 ads before, like, what the hell is this? And 00:14:55.269 --> 00:14:57.389 I have, I have never been aware. Cause like for, 00:14:58.100 --> 00:15:02.940 Yeah, we don't have ads, but we don't have like 00:15:02.940 --> 00:15:08.500 a... Because he's doing the French thing now. 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:12.299 He's complaining that I'm not subscribing to 00:15:12.299 --> 00:15:15.659 his... And that's the excuse. But he has access 00:15:15.659 --> 00:15:18.700 to a VPN. Still, he decides not to do it. Okay, 00:15:18.779 --> 00:15:21.059 now, here's the list of topics that we're going 00:15:21.059 --> 00:15:24.659 to cover today. All right. I don't know if you 00:15:24.659 --> 00:15:26.700 can read them or not. Maybe they're too small. 00:15:26.700 --> 00:15:31.009 I can, it's very clear. Now, this was brought 00:15:31.009 --> 00:15:37.070 to me by someone. But yeah, here's all of them. 00:15:37.289 --> 00:15:40.710 The security concerns behind kind of them. These 00:15:40.710 --> 00:15:42.769 are questions that I have. But if there's topics 00:15:42.769 --> 00:15:44.950 that you want to touch on, just let me know and 00:15:44.950 --> 00:15:48.929 we can discuss those as well. But I have them 00:15:48.929 --> 00:15:53.009 listed here so people can see what's this all 00:15:53.009 --> 00:15:58.360 about. If there's someone watching that doesn't 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:02.559 know who G is, we already did a video the last 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:08.779 time. And there, where is it? Kind of in this 00:16:08.779 --> 00:16:11.840 one. Oh, nice. This is the full interview. Two 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:14.440 months ago already. Yeah, it's two hours. So 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:16.639 if there's someone watching it, doesn't know 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:19.240 what we're talking about or who G is, go and 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.659 check that out. We talk about a lot of stuff 00:16:22.659 --> 00:16:26.279 there. The band, life, and everything. OK, now. 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:29.899 There's an issue that I have that I wanted to 00:16:29.899 --> 00:16:34.240 show you. And it happens with the letter K. I'm 00:16:34.240 --> 00:16:38.860 not sure what's happening. But let me show you 00:16:38.860 --> 00:16:41.879 something. Hold on. Notice that I had to type 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:45.059 kind of in with an uppercase K because I cannot 00:16:45.059 --> 00:16:49.799 keep doing this. I cannot type the letter K lowercase. 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:52.860 Look, I'm typing K. You see the K down there, 00:16:52.940 --> 00:16:58.419 right? But I cannot type, so I have to... But 00:16:58.419 --> 00:17:03.740 this is not related to Kanabim, is it? I'm not 00:17:03.740 --> 00:17:07.200 sure. It could be Kanata. Yeah, the thing is 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.180 you refuse to use carabiner elements, so that's 00:17:10.180 --> 00:17:12.779 your problem. I used carabiner in the past, but 00:17:12.779 --> 00:17:15.059 now I'm using Kanata. But the problem is, the 00:17:15.059 --> 00:17:18.480 thing is that I use KJ to go out to normal mode, 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:22.920 okay? So in Kanabim, and I think, yeah. kj so 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:24.980 i'm not sure if it's related to that we can talk 00:17:24.980 --> 00:17:27.960 about it later but it's something that i noticed 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:32.759 if it doesn't happen to you right uh i'm gonna 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:41.359 try now but uh i'm and like replacing by and 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:44.890 this is only in finder In Finder or in this Forklift 00:17:44.890 --> 00:17:47.589 app or in the Finder pop -ups, when you're trying 00:17:47.589 --> 00:17:50.910 to save a file in those pop -ups, I cannot type 00:17:50.910 --> 00:17:53.029 letter K for the file name. I don't know why. 00:17:53.109 --> 00:17:55.049 That's not something we need to take a look at 00:17:55.049 --> 00:17:56.970 right now. That's not the purpose of this call. 00:17:57.130 --> 00:18:01.049 Okay. Now, just wanted to mention it to you. 00:18:01.109 --> 00:18:03.769 I don't know what. Now, this is something else 00:18:03.769 --> 00:18:05.450 that I wanted to touch on. What do you think 00:18:05.450 --> 00:18:10.069 about the thumbnail? It's a masterpiece. Oh, 00:18:10.109 --> 00:18:16.589 I love it. You love it? I, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm 00:18:16.589 --> 00:18:21.809 thinking, yeah. And, uh, I saw your, your, the 00:18:21.809 --> 00:18:24.250 thing you, the, the, how do you call this? The 00:18:24.250 --> 00:18:26.410 YouTube shorts that you did when you were in 00:18:26.410 --> 00:18:30.569 the park. It's just hilarious, man. Um, uh, so 00:18:30.569 --> 00:18:32.450 I love it. And then you wrote kind of incorrectly, 00:18:32.930 --> 00:18:36.509 which, um, I want to applaud you for this. Uh, 00:18:38.089 --> 00:18:41.819 but yeah. It's very fun. And I didn't know. So 00:18:41.819 --> 00:18:45.640 Liz told me today that this is the, those are 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:49.160 lyrics of a song. I didn't know. So that makes 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:52.900 me realize how cultivated you are, actually, 00:18:52.980 --> 00:18:56.759 our culture. Man, that's a pretty famous song. 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:01.180 How come you haven't heard about it? Probably 00:19:01.180 --> 00:19:05.259 because it's sung by a woman. So I don't really 00:19:05.259 --> 00:19:09.680 listen. I'm just kidding. oh man yeah and what 00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:12.079 happened just kidding yeah i don't know bunny 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.740 tyler i saw i'm not sure what happened to the 00:19:14.740 --> 00:19:17.900 tears they look like something weird there what 00:19:17.900 --> 00:19:23.059 happened there man dude i that looks i don't 00:19:23.059 --> 00:19:26.700 really want to talk about this yeah okay how 00:19:26.700 --> 00:19:31.119 did you do this huh yeah some ai yeah ai stuff 00:19:31.660 --> 00:19:33.839 Good, good, good. I hope you didn't spend some 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:36.819 time on Photoshop to do this. No. AI is fine. 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.779 That's good. I don't know how to use Photoshop, 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:45.500 you know. But, yep. So someone reached out directly 00:19:45.500 --> 00:19:51.519 in Discord and sent me a Discord, no, a Reddit 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:54.880 post, right? I was not aware of this when we 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:58.299 had our last call. And that person was like, 00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:03.480 but... Are you okay using kind of like the security 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:05.900 concerns? And there's a Reddit post going on. 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:08.579 Let me show that to you. Oh, yeah. Oh, I haven't 00:20:08.579 --> 00:20:14.039 seen that. Oh, you definitely have. Oh, that's 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:19.740 me. Yeah. Yeah, that's me. I'm the... Yeah. Okay. 00:20:19.859 --> 00:20:23.119 So this post is from me. Okay, you created it. 00:20:23.220 --> 00:20:28.869 Why did they delete it? I don't know. Maybe it's 00:20:28.869 --> 00:20:37.589 too old. I posted, so because that was when I 00:20:37.589 --> 00:20:43.950 was, oh yeah, maybe you want to, do you want 00:20:43.950 --> 00:20:47.250 to say more before I? Yep, yep. I just wanted 00:20:47.250 --> 00:20:51.750 to, you know, let people know that this is what's 00:20:51.750 --> 00:20:53.789 starting the conversation, right? There's a lot 00:20:53.789 --> 00:20:57.490 of comments in that post. And let me just quickly 00:20:57.490 --> 00:21:01.869 go through it because there's concerns or questions 00:21:01.869 --> 00:21:05.930 that people have about that post. Okay. So this 00:21:05.930 --> 00:21:08.970 person asked me, would you use kind of him confidently, 00:21:09.089 --> 00:21:14.450 you know? And yeah, I just wanted to discuss 00:21:14.450 --> 00:21:17.589 that. There's a few topics here that I want to 00:21:17.589 --> 00:21:21.170 touch that I have added in my list of topics 00:21:21.170 --> 00:21:23.619 that we're going to discuss today. Open source 00:21:23.619 --> 00:21:28.539 and other stuff as well. Security concerns. There's 00:21:28.539 --> 00:21:31.400 a lot of stuff here. I'm going to leave it in 00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:33.660 the video description so people can go and read 00:21:33.660 --> 00:21:35.420 the questions and all that. But we're going to 00:21:35.420 --> 00:21:38.700 touch on that right now during the call. Okay. 00:21:38.740 --> 00:21:47.319 So the first thing is you're living in Macau. 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:50.500 Like, are you a refugee or something living the 00:21:50.500 --> 00:21:56.029 John McAfee life? Read this, read this. I cannot 00:21:56.029 --> 00:22:06.309 say it. So, can we trust this guy, our data? 00:22:07.589 --> 00:22:12.950 Oh, interesting. No, but that's, did somebody 00:22:12.950 --> 00:22:16.470 really, that could, I mean, those people don't 00:22:16.470 --> 00:22:18.710 know Macau. And it's like, if you read about 00:22:18.710 --> 00:22:21.769 it, it's like the... Las Vegas of Asia, gambling, 00:22:22.009 --> 00:22:24.589 prostitution and stuff. So they could, they could, 00:22:24.589 --> 00:22:26.990 they would, they could worry. This is, this is 00:22:26.990 --> 00:22:29.690 the way that I imagined you. Have you seen the, 00:22:29.730 --> 00:22:32.890 the history of John McAfee? I did. Yeah, of course. 00:22:33.190 --> 00:22:37.410 This guy, no fucking way. I don't, how, how the 00:22:37.410 --> 00:22:39.990 hell this guy looks, still look good at his age 00:22:39.990 --> 00:22:45.200 with all the, the cocaine and like. Like he's 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:48.019 half a pint of whiskey at like eight in the morning. 00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:51.759 I don't know how this guy looked like this. You 00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:54.339 look like him. So is that the life that you're 00:22:54.339 --> 00:22:56.779 living? Is that why you went to Macau? What's 00:22:56.779 --> 00:22:59.559 happening? It's kind of insecure. That's the 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:01.779 question that I have and that everyone has. Can 00:23:01.779 --> 00:23:05.279 we trust our data? Because it's a tool that captures 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:08.059 each one of the keystrokes that you enter, right? 00:23:08.299 --> 00:23:12.880 So that's one of the... questions that people 00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:15.259 have is there anything you want to share about 00:23:15.259 --> 00:23:22.460 that uh yeah can maybe you can share first uh 00:23:22.460 --> 00:23:25.460 can you go on the website can we see your screen 00:23:25.460 --> 00:23:28.200 or something yeah yeah or let's do it on yours 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:31.960 let's do it in your cities here so just let me 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:33.920 know when you're there and i'll switch to your 00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:40.319 screen yes you can now okay there we go yeah 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:47.920 yep So there's, I think, yeah, so let me tell 00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.900 you. You can click hi there, that little button. 00:23:50.960 --> 00:24:02.039 Yeah, okay. So there's, I like to keep things 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.660 as, because what I'm interested in is having 00:24:04.660 --> 00:24:07.079 fun building my stuff that is useful to me. And 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:09.750 if it's useful to other people, perfect. And 00:24:09.750 --> 00:24:12.690 I don't like this, you know, like, so it's one 00:24:12.690 --> 00:24:14.529 of the point that I saw in your list. So like 00:24:14.529 --> 00:24:18.289 the, the kind of some people feel the app is 00:24:18.289 --> 00:24:20.970 not professional because of the weights it's 00:24:20.970 --> 00:24:24.710 returned or like the kind of, uh, uh, trial trial 00:24:24.710 --> 00:24:28.029 on stuff. It's fun for me. It's not fun for some 00:24:28.029 --> 00:24:31.349 people. Uh, and, and, uh, the side is, is like 00:24:31.349 --> 00:24:33.250 very simple. I don't want to have like some kind 00:24:33.250 --> 00:24:35.630 of business or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 00:24:35.750 --> 00:24:43.069 blah. But to be able to, um, Again, because I'm 00:24:43.069 --> 00:24:48.069 in Macau, the only payment provider that works 00:24:48.069 --> 00:24:51.890 in Macau is Padon. Stripe doesn't care about 00:24:51.890 --> 00:24:55.009 Macau. So I had to go through Padon. And Padon, 00:24:55.089 --> 00:24:59.410 to accept you as a customer, you have to have 00:24:59.410 --> 00:25:03.789 on your site a license agreement and a privacy 00:25:03.789 --> 00:25:08.730 policy. I don't think it's mandatory to have 00:25:08.730 --> 00:25:14.690 a refund policy. But I added it when... I can 00:25:14.690 --> 00:25:17.670 tell you more about that later. But it used to 00:25:17.670 --> 00:25:21.450 be that you could only subscribe per month. Because 00:25:21.450 --> 00:25:24.569 for me, I wanted to... I like the fact that people 00:25:24.569 --> 00:25:27.710 can... It's very clear. Costa Coffee, if you 00:25:27.710 --> 00:25:30.670 think that the app is useful, you think yourself, 00:25:30.809 --> 00:25:34.670 is it worth one coffee per month to have, you 00:25:34.670 --> 00:25:37.319 know, like... to make my life better. If it's 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.339 worth, great. If you find a better app later 00:25:40.339 --> 00:25:44.900 or you switch to Omar G or whatever, you can 00:25:44.900 --> 00:25:48.359 just cancel it and end of the story. But a lot 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:50.880 of people ask, which I was surprised, they were 00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.839 asking for like a yearly subscription. And the 00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.700 reason that most of them gave me is for like 00:25:56.700 --> 00:25:59.779 accounting reasons. So they subscribe yearly 00:25:59.779 --> 00:26:02.099 and they send the thing to their accountant and... 00:26:02.650 --> 00:26:05.150 it's over for the year rather than these things 00:26:05.150 --> 00:26:08.730 monthly. So I started, when I added the yearly 00:26:08.730 --> 00:26:12.769 one, I added a refund policy because I was expecting 00:26:12.769 --> 00:26:15.390 that, you know, like people don't ask, it's very 00:26:15.390 --> 00:26:17.430 rare that they ask refund for a month, but for 00:26:17.430 --> 00:26:20.490 a year, they could use the app for like six months 00:26:20.490 --> 00:26:23.990 and then ask for a refund policy. So that's why 00:26:23.990 --> 00:26:27.779 there is this. But for the license and the privacy 00:26:27.779 --> 00:26:31.539 policy, it is mandatory for Paddle. And if you 00:26:31.539 --> 00:26:34.700 check the privacy policy, so of course, those 00:26:34.700 --> 00:26:37.539 are my words, so you believe it or not, but basically, 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:41.779 even on the site, nothing is tracked. I really 00:26:41.779 --> 00:26:45.900 don't care about the data. So the only thing 00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:51.440 that KV does, which is explain, so you have the 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:53.200 short version, right? We don't track anything. 00:26:58.559 --> 00:27:02.799 That's for the site. So that's for the license. 00:27:05.980 --> 00:27:08.559 But basically, bottom line, we have to trust 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:12.339 you, right? Yeah, but there's a bit more that 00:27:12.339 --> 00:27:14.779 I want to say about this. It should be the privacy 00:27:14.779 --> 00:27:21.299 policy. Basically, Canavim is going to go online 00:27:21.299 --> 00:27:23.619 to check two things. To check if there's an update 00:27:23.619 --> 00:27:27.339 for the app. and to check for the subscription 00:27:27.339 --> 00:27:31.900 with Paddle. That's all it does. Then after you 00:27:31.900 --> 00:27:34.960 can, there's like a lot of tools that are paid 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:39.119 or not paid that you can, like a little snitch, 00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.160 if you want to pay, it's like a great. Oh yeah, 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:45.160 I have used that one. So it's a very well done 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.420 app, but you have like also other free tools 00:27:48.420 --> 00:27:52.539 that can check all the, what apps connect to. 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:55.759 Exactly. So you could check through this and 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:57.619 the rest, yeah, it's going to be my word. But 00:27:57.619 --> 00:28:00.180 like some people mentioned in that story fair, 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.140 they said like, yeah, but what about if your 00:28:03.140 --> 00:28:08.319 app, let's say it gets hacked or like you have 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:10.759 a bug in your engine or whatever, and then like 00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:15.420 somebody is able to steal the keystrokes. I'm 00:28:15.420 --> 00:28:17.740 going to switch to our screen so you can see 00:28:17.740 --> 00:28:24.579 both of us. Yeah, yeah. Oops, that could be... 00:28:24.579 --> 00:28:32.539 I mean, the event tab is quite... The macOS event 00:28:32.539 --> 00:28:35.859 tab is quite straightforward. And then you receive 00:28:35.859 --> 00:28:38.240 the key and then you decide if you discard it 00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:40.799 or you do something with it and then you tell 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.240 macOS, okay, don't take care of that key. It's 00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:48.059 quite straightforward. If somebody is able to 00:28:48.059 --> 00:28:50.400 hack and like, yeah, I mean, maybe, I don't know. 00:28:58.059 --> 00:29:00.500 One of the things that I saw on Reddit there 00:29:00.500 --> 00:29:05.279 was, have you thought about hiring a software 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:09.559 auditing company that, I don't know, does the 00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:11.920 audit of the app and you can make that public 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:13.880 or something, whatever. Have you thought about 00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:16.539 any of that? The problem that people have is 00:29:16.539 --> 00:29:18.799 that since it's not open source, we're going 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:20.880 to touch on that in a little while, right? Since 00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:24.839 they cannot inspect the code, right? They don't 00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:29.240 know if it's safe. And they don't know if there's 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.819 something happening in the background. But there's, 00:29:31.819 --> 00:29:35.619 I think, security auditing companies that could 00:29:35.619 --> 00:29:39.740 audit it, make that public and everyone's calmer 00:29:39.740 --> 00:29:42.720 or more confident. Have you ever thought about 00:29:42.720 --> 00:29:48.900 that? No. What I did when people came up with 00:29:48.900 --> 00:29:55.859 that thing is I thought like, okay, do I release 00:29:55.859 --> 00:30:00.200 the event tab part open source so that people 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:02.079 can see what's happening? But the problem is 00:30:02.079 --> 00:30:06.140 that people would still want, okay, maybe further 00:30:06.140 --> 00:30:10.019 down the line, like you're doing something in 00:30:10.019 --> 00:30:14.240 your closed source part. So even the event tab, 00:30:14.490 --> 00:30:17.730 it wasn't enough to, so you can see in the, in 00:30:17.730 --> 00:30:22.049 the, the Reddit post that you showed, there's 00:30:22.049 --> 00:30:24.910 a couple of places where I wrote like on the 00:30:24.910 --> 00:30:28.190 way to open source because, yeah, because, uh, 00:30:28.470 --> 00:30:36.150 I, it's, it's, it's, it's going to be like a 00:30:36.150 --> 00:30:39.170 kind of a, not big story, but maybe bigger than, 00:30:39.210 --> 00:30:44.099 um, like, I released kind of in open source for 00:30:44.099 --> 00:30:48.559 like a couple of months in answer to that thing. 00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:56.380 But I didn't do it in a way that was... Like 00:30:56.380 --> 00:30:59.140 I did it in another selfish way, but it was still 00:30:59.140 --> 00:31:02.279 like I was gaining from the thing. So in the 00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:07.630 sense that I released everything except... the 00:31:07.630 --> 00:31:10.849 licensing part so the licensing part would still 00:31:10.849 --> 00:31:14.809 be closed source okay so you you cannot you couldn't 00:31:14.809 --> 00:31:17.869 see my pedal id and my pedal password that part 00:31:17.869 --> 00:31:24.150 was uh was i wouldn't share this but you have 00:31:24.150 --> 00:31:27.670 access to all the other source and basically 00:31:27.670 --> 00:31:30.250 what i what i had in the readme was like okay 00:31:30.250 --> 00:31:37.119 i do not do any open source support so And Canavim 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:42.220 is like split because every pod, I like to separate 00:31:42.220 --> 00:31:46.119 things in like their own small packages being 00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:48.420 tested and all those things because I want to 00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:51.119 make sure that every release I do is not going 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.259 to break something from before. So like all pods 00:31:54.259 --> 00:31:56.279 are like separated and stuff. So even at that 00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:59.180 time, I think Canavim was split into like 10 00:31:59.180 --> 00:32:06.200 packages. And then it was... I forgot if, because 00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.960 when I started posting on Reddit, it was still 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.720 like the alpha. So you didn't have, I know at 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.119 that time there was already the license. Yeah, 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:20.420 for sure. So, but what happened is, so it was 00:32:20.420 --> 00:32:24.119 split in 10 packages and I would release one 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.980 update per week. So that means that, or you were 00:32:28.980 --> 00:32:31.900 paying for the license and you never had to worry 00:32:31.900 --> 00:32:38.220 about anything. or you would like clone the code 00:32:38.220 --> 00:32:41.660 and you had to compile it yourself which wouldn't 00:32:41.660 --> 00:32:43.740 compile because the license part was missing 00:32:43.740 --> 00:32:47.079 so you had to comment some part of the code that 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:52.119 was related to the license and then if you were 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:56.690 doing this yourself Then a few days later, you 00:32:56.690 --> 00:32:58.950 have a new release with a new code that you would 00:32:58.950 --> 00:33:01.990 have. So it would actually be more work for like, 00:33:02.069 --> 00:33:05.950 if you really wanted to save three US a month, 00:33:06.029 --> 00:33:10.170 that clearly you would not be my customer. Like 00:33:10.170 --> 00:33:14.230 you would be spending a few hours every week 00:33:14.230 --> 00:33:16.170 or like a headache to try to make that thing 00:33:16.170 --> 00:33:19.410 work. So it was open source so that people would. 00:33:19.900 --> 00:33:22.220 uh those who complain like yeah we don't know 00:33:22.220 --> 00:33:24.559 what we're doing and like vim is free and open 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:27.660 source you uh already doing this is like very 00:33:27.660 --> 00:33:31.400 bad like it's a uh i forgot like what term they 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:35.359 use or something so uh i was like okay then this 00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:37.400 is open source you can see the the whole thing 00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:41.099 uh but they're so it's going to be painful for 00:33:41.099 --> 00:33:43.319 you to compile the thing yourself and use it 00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:46.039 for free so you can use the lights and then i 00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:49.190 release i would release every week now Now it's 00:33:49.190 --> 00:33:51.769 maybe, the average is maybe, I don't know, once 00:33:51.769 --> 00:33:53.869 a month because things are like more stable. 00:33:54.029 --> 00:33:59.109 And so some of the things take more time. But 00:33:59.109 --> 00:34:00.950 at that time it was like once a week, which was 00:34:00.950 --> 00:34:05.789 painful for people to catch up with. So it was, 00:34:05.890 --> 00:34:09.150 I kind of, I was still trying to get the best 00:34:09.150 --> 00:34:11.769 of both worlds, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:34:11.809 --> 00:34:14.889 But I can tell you that from all the people who 00:34:14.889 --> 00:34:17.730 complained about the... the thing not being open 00:34:17.730 --> 00:34:21.809 source and, and that they couldn't see like what 00:34:21.809 --> 00:34:24.389 was happening. I never heard about them. Like, 00:34:24.449 --> 00:34:26.750 I think they just move on to a next project to, 00:34:26.750 --> 00:34:30.349 to complain about basically. I never, I never 00:34:30.349 --> 00:34:33.389 heard the guys telling me like, Oh, Oh yeah, 00:34:33.409 --> 00:34:36.389 actually nothing happens. Or I, I'm not even 00:34:36.389 --> 00:34:39.110 sure they could read the source basically. I 00:34:39.110 --> 00:34:41.650 don't, I don't know. Or maybe they feel good. 00:34:41.670 --> 00:34:44.429 Like they could, some other companies could. 00:34:44.710 --> 00:34:46.949 could look at the source and tell them it's, 00:34:46.949 --> 00:34:52.190 I don't really, I don't. You don't understand. 00:34:52.550 --> 00:34:55.949 Yep. I don't understand that type of comments 00:34:55.949 --> 00:34:59.630 either. I don't, I don't get it. It's like, if 00:34:59.630 --> 00:35:02.929 I see that a product that I want to use is not 00:35:02.929 --> 00:35:07.150 open source, I will not go in the repo and ask 00:35:07.150 --> 00:35:10.150 them like, why is this not? Okay. If, if it's, 00:35:10.150 --> 00:35:12.650 if it does that click with me, I just move on, 00:35:12.650 --> 00:35:15.079 man. It's like. I don't like that crap. That's 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.639 what I would say. I would move on, but I wouldn't 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:24.179 go and demand for the code. Why? Yeah. So on 00:35:24.179 --> 00:35:29.599 this, I think I'm not really smart because I 00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:36.460 tend to be very, maybe too understanding. I think 00:35:36.460 --> 00:35:39.340 people have the right to ask and I have the right 00:35:39.340 --> 00:35:48.639 to refuse or to... ignore but i like and people 00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.659 who know me in real they know it's like i'm like 00:35:51.659 --> 00:35:55.619 very reliable and i i would still tell even if 00:35:55.619 --> 00:35:59.739 it's a no or let's say even if i would ignore 00:35:59.739 --> 00:36:02.340 people i would tell them that i will i'm going 00:36:02.340 --> 00:36:05.679 to ignore them so i would i don't it's like some 00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:08.739 kind of quirk that i feel it's the basic respect 00:36:08.739 --> 00:36:11.019 is at least people know where to stand so you 00:36:11.019 --> 00:36:17.300 you let them know so when i get um yeah and i 00:36:17.300 --> 00:36:20.139 i don't know if you see like so recently recently 00:36:20.139 --> 00:36:25.639 when when uh when a lot of new subscribers came 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.800 also a lot of questions came and those things 00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.860 so like the the on youtube there were like comments 00:36:31.860 --> 00:36:34.989 about this the subscription thing And there's 00:36:34.989 --> 00:36:37.630 been GitHub issues about the security thing, 00:36:37.789 --> 00:36:41.869 about the subscription thing. And again, I try 00:36:41.869 --> 00:36:48.230 to balance between... I have to find a comfortable 00:36:48.230 --> 00:36:53.929 balance between answering people but gaining 00:36:53.929 --> 00:36:59.670 something from this, which is for me, I find 00:36:59.670 --> 00:37:04.909 it very useful to... explain again from time 00:37:04.909 --> 00:37:07.989 to time because it like clarifies my thoughts. 00:37:08.150 --> 00:37:10.329 And then sometimes I would, I would even like, 00:37:10.349 --> 00:37:13.869 it would make me aware of, oh, I had that belief 00:37:13.869 --> 00:37:17.710 before. So that's why I did that. But now something 00:37:17.710 --> 00:37:20.710 changed. So maybe I can't. So I always find this 00:37:20.710 --> 00:37:23.050 useful. So again, I'm trying to gain something 00:37:23.050 --> 00:37:25.889 from this, right? People write this and I'm going 00:37:25.889 --> 00:37:29.130 to spend an afternoon thinking about this, having 00:37:29.130 --> 00:37:32.710 my coffee and then writing a big answer. And 00:37:32.710 --> 00:37:36.690 that answer, it comes from me thinking and clarifying 00:37:36.690 --> 00:37:39.690 and maybe confirming my own values and beliefs 00:37:39.690 --> 00:37:42.989 or like changing. And then I write something 00:37:42.989 --> 00:37:45.710 and then the whole thing is good. I answered 00:37:45.710 --> 00:37:48.429 people and I clarify myself and I thought about 00:37:48.429 --> 00:37:51.309 it and it's perfect. Then after it's like when 00:37:51.309 --> 00:37:55.989 they start pushing again that then I'm okay to 00:37:55.989 --> 00:37:58.690 ignore. But the first time I kind of have these... 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.260 Politeness to answer, right? I don't know. It's 00:38:02.260 --> 00:38:07.360 like kind of a need to... Because again, I think 00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:12.159 like people, even if they... Yeah, even if it's... 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.420 Even like people who make a comment, like I would 00:38:14.420 --> 00:38:17.579 never buy your app. I think it's... They have 00:38:17.579 --> 00:38:24.940 the right to... It's, you know, it's okay. Especially... 00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.059 I want to say, maybe it doesn't make sense, but 00:38:29.059 --> 00:38:32.679 it's online. It's not like you're outside reading 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:35.579 a book and somebody comes to bother you while 00:38:35.579 --> 00:38:38.639 it's... I can read the thing when I want. So 00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.500 I think it's kind of okay. And did you release 00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:47.039 the open source stuff? Did you release it as 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.420 open source due to pressure on that Reddit post 00:38:50.420 --> 00:38:54.340 or what happened there? Did you feel bad? Did 00:38:54.340 --> 00:39:00.980 that Reddit post make you feel... No, so like 00:39:00.980 --> 00:39:03.400 I was saying, it wasn't that I felt bad. It's 00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:10.639 like I was still trying to find a way. But let 00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:17.460 me think. Did you ever wonder, maybe they're 00:39:17.460 --> 00:39:24.219 right and I'm wrong. And this should be open 00:39:24.219 --> 00:39:28.949 source. No. On that thing of Veeam is open source, 00:39:29.090 --> 00:39:31.510 so you're making money out of all those stuff 00:39:31.510 --> 00:39:34.730 is completely bullshit. That makes zero sense. 00:39:36.570 --> 00:39:39.909 So like I said a bit before, when people mention 00:39:39.909 --> 00:39:45.150 like, oh, we don't know what you're doing and 00:39:45.150 --> 00:39:46.889 we have to believe your words. Okay, you can 00:39:46.889 --> 00:39:48.789 use tools to check, right? They say, yeah, but 00:39:48.789 --> 00:39:52.710 what about if somebody... using assembly, like 00:39:52.710 --> 00:39:55.409 a de -assembler, I don't even know how you call 00:39:55.409 --> 00:39:57.730 it. And like they can do, and I'm like, oh yeah, 00:39:57.789 --> 00:40:01.369 I don't know, maybe. So maybe they do have some 00:40:01.369 --> 00:40:06.909 points like, you know, or even if I'm like not 00:40:06.909 --> 00:40:10.230 malicious and anything, but yeah, again, somebody's 00:40:10.230 --> 00:40:16.969 hacking. So it's not like, I would think like, 00:40:17.070 --> 00:40:20.550 okay, that's fair. Which is, so like when you 00:40:20.550 --> 00:40:25.130 were asking me if to make it open source, it 00:40:25.130 --> 00:40:30.190 wasn't like due to pressure. And again, I wouldn't 00:40:30.190 --> 00:40:33.469 release it open source if I didn't have this 00:40:33.469 --> 00:40:37.690 kind of leverage of, it's going to be open source, 00:40:37.769 --> 00:40:39.969 but for you to compile it, it's going to be a 00:40:39.969 --> 00:40:42.750 pain. And we can talk about this later, but that's 00:40:42.750 --> 00:40:44.989 why I closed it again because people were abusing. 00:40:46.380 --> 00:40:50.159 The first line of the readme was, I do not do 00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.780 open source support. If you don't know how to 00:40:53.780 --> 00:40:56.900 compile it, get a license. And I get flooded 00:40:56.900 --> 00:40:59.300 by messages of people. And I'll tell you more 00:40:59.300 --> 00:41:03.940 later. So that's why I went back to closed source. 00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.059 But one thing that bothered me with the Reddit 00:41:07.059 --> 00:41:09.980 post, and you showed one, but there were several, 00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:14.639 because it was when I was developing it for myself. 00:41:15.369 --> 00:41:17.769 After two years, I realized, oh, okay, I can 00:41:17.769 --> 00:41:21.570 do what I want to do for myself. And, oh, this 00:41:21.570 --> 00:41:24.530 is actually better than what I thought. So maybe 00:41:24.530 --> 00:41:27.369 some people would be interested. And then I started 00:41:27.369 --> 00:41:32.030 posting in the Vim Reddit and the Mac apps and 00:41:32.030 --> 00:41:36.070 maybe macOS and maybe Sublime Text. If you like 00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:38.650 no vintages in Sublime, maybe you're going to 00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:41.550 blah, blah, blah. And at that time, it was still 00:41:41.550 --> 00:41:46.050 the alpha. So the alphas were... You could just 00:41:46.050 --> 00:41:49.489 use that. Like if you downloaded an alpha from 00:41:49.489 --> 00:41:53.510 three years ago, you can still use it now. Like 00:41:53.510 --> 00:41:55.730 there was no license, nothing. It would just, 00:41:55.809 --> 00:41:58.789 you wouldn't have new moves and new stuff like 00:41:58.789 --> 00:42:05.389 this. But what I did not like with the Reddit 00:42:05.389 --> 00:42:08.590 thing for sure is like some unfairness. Like 00:42:08.590 --> 00:42:12.739 some people would say like, yeah, they're. This 00:42:12.739 --> 00:42:15.260 app, there's this other app that is much better 00:42:15.260 --> 00:42:20.420 and it's a one -time purchase or something. And 00:42:20.420 --> 00:42:23.659 the thing is that it's not better, it's different. 00:42:24.219 --> 00:42:27.320 Or like some people would say like, I saw like 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.019 recently they would say like, why the hell would 00:42:30.019 --> 00:42:31.840 you pay for something like this? There's like 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.360 SketchEVM that is open source and free. Yeah, 00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:41.760 but SketchEVM only works in text inputs. that 00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:45.380 are accessible. Panavim is like a layer that 00:42:45.380 --> 00:42:48.000 removes, like whether it's accessible, it's not 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.460 accessible, whether you're in your email, those 00:42:50.460 --> 00:42:53.880 are like very different tools. So when those 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.039 comments happen, I just feel like this is a little 00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.519 bit unfair because it feels like the person who's 00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:04.179 writing, they haven't tried them. So it's just 00:43:04.179 --> 00:43:07.820 like, it's a little bit like the people who complain 00:43:07.820 --> 00:43:10.309 about the open source. or like not being open 00:43:10.309 --> 00:43:13.849 source and then they just move on to a next post 00:43:13.849 --> 00:43:17.769 where they complain about something else so that 00:43:17.769 --> 00:43:20.969 that part i find because i think i'm quite okay 00:43:20.969 --> 00:43:24.829 with uh if the criticism is valid and and sometimes 00:43:24.829 --> 00:43:28.130 it's totally okay to be like yeah sorry i'm i'm 00:43:28.130 --> 00:43:31.630 not going to i had the case i have the case quite 00:43:31.630 --> 00:43:35.349 often with wushi which is the the app where you 00:43:35.349 --> 00:43:38.090 go click anywhere people ask me for the label 00:43:38.090 --> 00:43:40.829 mode so i don't like the home row thing oh yeah 00:43:40.829 --> 00:43:43.929 yep because because who she is like you type 00:43:43.929 --> 00:43:45.829 where you want to go so you want to go to the 00:43:45.829 --> 00:43:48.610 close but there is no label and people ask me 00:43:48.610 --> 00:43:50.909 for the label and i'm like yeah sorry like use 00:43:50.909 --> 00:43:54.190 home row i'm not going to to build the label 00:43:54.190 --> 00:43:57.090 uh i'm not interested in this i'm not interested 00:43:57.090 --> 00:44:03.900 in uh for myself so i'm not so um Yeah, I was 00:44:03.900 --> 00:44:08.500 saying this because I think if it's valid criticism, 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:11.760 I'm okay with this and I'm okay to say like, 00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:16.320 yeah, no, it's going to be my time and my energy 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:20.280 and I'm really not good at working on stuff I 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.159 don't want to work on. The apps are not a business. 00:44:23.539 --> 00:44:25.980 They're like what we talked about last. For me, 00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.559 there's like when I was doing music, well, now 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:31.239 it's just I'm doing software or when I write 00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:34.559 some... Short story. Well, to me, it's like a 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:38.599 self -expression. That's why all the vulgarity 00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:41.400 and all this stuff. I don't want to have a job. 00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.579 What's the point? What's the point of doing my 00:44:44.579 --> 00:44:47.460 own thing if I cannot do my own thing? There's 00:44:47.460 --> 00:44:51.880 no point. If it's to get a few more customers, 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:54.559 but then you're a slave to your customers. What's 00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:57.440 the point? Yeah, makes sense. That's one of the 00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.739 points. it's not professional, it insults you, 00:45:00.820 --> 00:45:04.920 it's vulgar, and it's not Karen -friendly. This 00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:08.000 is really good. It's not Karen -friendly. Yeah, 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:16.860 so what's up with that? I think, yeah, I can't... 00:45:16.860 --> 00:45:20.559 I was thinking about this before doing the recall, 00:45:20.659 --> 00:45:23.199 like last week or something. I was wondering, 00:45:23.300 --> 00:45:27.000 because one guy on GitHub wrote, yeah, like something. 00:45:29.240 --> 00:45:31.980 perverted like this perverted app and stuff and 00:45:31.980 --> 00:45:35.820 i was like what and so because the thing is when 00:45:35.820 --> 00:45:40.340 um i think you have to see or can i show my screen 00:45:40.340 --> 00:45:42.599 yep let me know when you're ready and i'll switch 00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:50.500 to it okay yeah it's because um there's a some 00:45:50.500 --> 00:45:53.099 kind of playing with uh it's it's again it's 00:45:53.099 --> 00:45:56.639 like very personal uh i'm sure almost nobody 00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:01.480 noticed this and uh But so I started with kind 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:03.440 of him, right? And then you can see like, so 00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:07.480 the icon is supposed to represent like the quote 00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:15.420 character, right? But it looks like, so it kind 00:46:15.420 --> 00:46:22.559 of looks like a cartoonish kind of, you know, 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:24.719 like some sort of personification or something. 00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.739 And then when I started, building Wuxia I'm gonna 00:46:29.739 --> 00:46:34.099 make this kind of like a family so it ended up 00:46:34.099 --> 00:46:38.300 like it looks like a little face right right 00:46:38.300 --> 00:46:43.340 right so and even you can see the if you check 00:46:43.340 --> 00:46:49.820 the the twitter the way it's kind of described 00:46:49.820 --> 00:46:53.480 it ended up like kind of him is like kind of 00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:57.030 the big is the big brother And Mushi and Scrolla, 00:46:57.110 --> 00:47:01.409 they're like the little twins. And even the icons, 00:47:01.809 --> 00:47:04.989 okay, slow here. But like even the icons, you 00:47:04.989 --> 00:47:07.510 can see like, kind of him is like stern. He's 00:47:07.510 --> 00:47:11.250 more like the big, cold, it's black. It's kind 00:47:11.250 --> 00:47:14.110 of like, it's the big, cold brother. And Mushi 00:47:14.110 --> 00:47:16.389 and Scrolla, they're like kind of the funny, 00:47:16.570 --> 00:47:21.050 funny, not funny, but like how, yeah, funny. 00:47:21.110 --> 00:47:25.019 Or they're the cute little, twins, brother and 00:47:25.019 --> 00:47:27.559 sisters, right? So like, this is the strict complex. 00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:33.960 And so Wushi, Scrawler is free, but Wushi, there's 00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:37.139 the same system as, not the same system, but 00:47:37.139 --> 00:47:39.880 these are so like one coffee a month. And Wushi 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:43.179 is going to beg you like nicely, like, oh, I'm 00:47:43.179 --> 00:47:46.400 so tired. Like I need a coffee and stuff. But 00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:49.119 kind of him, he's kind of insulting you from, 00:47:49.179 --> 00:47:54.409 he's like the stern, stern big brother. And it 00:47:54.409 --> 00:47:57.730 doesn't work from 5 a .m. to 1 p .m. And when 00:47:57.730 --> 00:48:01.630 you try to use vMotion during that time, it insults 00:48:01.630 --> 00:48:04.130 you from the menu bar. But it's not even, to 00:48:04.130 --> 00:48:06.269 be honest, it's not really, when I checked again, 00:48:06.389 --> 00:48:10.230 it's not really insulting. It's just like saying 00:48:10.230 --> 00:48:15.730 like, oh, you barbarian. This is like... It's 00:48:15.730 --> 00:48:19.130 not even MF. It doesn't even include MF. No, 00:48:19.250 --> 00:48:23.769 it doesn't. It's just baby insults. yeah it's 00:48:23.769 --> 00:48:28.409 still like very uh crime against humanity and 00:48:28.409 --> 00:48:31.829 the only thing that that i saw after that i kind 00:48:31.829 --> 00:48:34.230 of forget is like yeah when you go to the license 00:48:34.230 --> 00:48:37.630 thing it's like uh there is something like oh 00:48:37.630 --> 00:48:42.190 if you want to abuse kind of him 24 7 buy a coffee 00:48:42.190 --> 00:48:44.670 and then the button is like oh yeah i want to 00:48:44.670 --> 00:48:49.230 abuse kind of him so bad or like something Which 00:48:49.230 --> 00:48:51.710 I actually at the time I found funny. Now maybe 00:48:51.710 --> 00:48:54.630 I should update it. But it's just like some people 00:48:54.630 --> 00:48:58.150 think it's like perverted. Okay, sure. But to 00:48:58.150 --> 00:49:00.889 me at the time it made me laugh. Now maybe I 00:49:00.889 --> 00:49:04.369 should change it, but not because of their comments. 00:49:04.429 --> 00:49:09.409 Just I should make it a thing more. It's in the 00:49:09.409 --> 00:49:15.110 list of... Wait, let me see if I can add new 00:49:15.110 --> 00:49:18.119 insults. I kind of want to make... to replace 00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:21.119 it and replace the insults and make them more 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:25.320 hardcore, actually. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I think, 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:27.599 I think the insults are like too soft currently. 00:49:27.659 --> 00:49:30.940 And then, uh, yeah, I want to abuse kind of him 00:49:30.940 --> 00:49:35.599 so bad. It's, it, it, there's a mismatch between 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.179 the insult and this. So I think I need to review. 00:49:38.280 --> 00:49:41.820 That's going to be part of the marketing revamp 00:49:41.820 --> 00:49:46.699 or something. Uh, um, yeah. So yeah, some, some, 00:49:47.210 --> 00:49:50.889 so what what was the comment like pervert pervert 00:49:50.889 --> 00:49:56.269 it perverted app or stuff like that uh let me 00:49:56.269 --> 00:49:59.750 i think i'm sure that there was uh well i think 00:49:59.750 --> 00:50:02.269 something with um well maybe still in the open 00:50:02.269 --> 00:50:08.510 there was something uh is this one i'm pretty 00:50:08.510 --> 00:50:12.230 sure there was uh i'm sorry for like yeah let 00:50:12.230 --> 00:50:18.440 me switch there yeah yeah I want to abuse what's 00:50:18.440 --> 00:50:21.480 repressive, this perverse messaging and bizarre 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:24.900 trial constraint leaves me unable to take this 00:50:24.900 --> 00:50:31.320 software seriously. So, yeah. Yeah, let's switch 00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:36.260 back to your screen. It's tough, man. I switch 00:50:36.260 --> 00:50:39.980 back to where both of us are. Yeah. People get 00:50:39.980 --> 00:50:44.480 offended by everything. I don't know, man. But 00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:50.219 again, like, if you share, for example, can you 00:50:50.219 --> 00:50:53.340 share my screen? Yep. I'm going to hide the guy. 00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:59.320 But for example, so the, again, like, somebody 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:05.480 says this, I, and like, for example, this thing 00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:09.860 of, that I was showing you, like, the add new 00:51:09.860 --> 00:51:12.780 insults, that comes from a, comment from YouTube, 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.860 somebody saying something about the trial, how 00:51:16.860 --> 00:51:19.719 it was like shit and stuff. And I was like, oh, 00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.300 and they would also never buy the app. And I 00:51:22.300 --> 00:51:25.199 was like, it just made me think of adding new, 00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:28.320 like updating the insults. So like, oh, thank 00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:30.980 you. Like, I'm kind of trying to joke with this, 00:51:31.059 --> 00:51:33.139 but I'm also going to use this. But for example, 00:51:33.179 --> 00:51:35.639 that person was complaining about like that is 00:51:35.639 --> 00:51:38.659 perverted and stuff. So, okay, I send them to 00:51:38.659 --> 00:51:42.739 the alternatives and then tell, yeah, this, you 00:51:42.739 --> 00:51:45.019 know, if that doesn't solve your problem, sure. 00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:47.300 But they're also complaining about other things, 00:51:47.340 --> 00:51:51.019 which I'm trying to, I'm asking, like trying 00:51:51.019 --> 00:51:56.639 to solve their, like to genuinely answering their, 00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:59.579 their issue. And they just never answer. So this 00:51:59.579 --> 00:52:05.360 is a little bit, at least I'm not answer the 00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:07.880 thing like, and we can solve some problems or 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:18.139 so. Yeah. That part is a little bit, it's, that 00:52:18.139 --> 00:52:20.880 bothers me more. Like the fact that they find 00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:23.760 this like dumb and that's totally fine. But like 00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:26.960 that they ask, it's like, yeah, this thing is 00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:29.340 not even centered on my screen. Like, are you 00:52:29.340 --> 00:52:32.480 hiding the money bar? Maybe that's the never 00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.840 answer. So yeah, that part I'm a bit. Yeah. And 00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:39.239 the real question is. So you want people like 00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:43.300 that as users, right? So I guess it's a good 00:52:43.300 --> 00:52:46.500 filter, you know, the insults and all that. If 00:52:46.500 --> 00:52:49.519 people agree with that, it's users that you want 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:54.440 to have, you know. But I don't know. I guess 00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:58.039 it works like that. Yeah, again, it's like you 00:52:58.039 --> 00:53:02.940 need to find your own balance. And I think, to 00:53:02.940 --> 00:53:05.480 be honest, I think on that part, I'm like quite 00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:10.070 good. I'm having fun with the whole thing. But 00:53:10.070 --> 00:53:18.429 at the same time, my threshold is very low. Even 00:53:18.429 --> 00:53:30.369 like this, my time is 95 % spent on me fully 00:53:30.369 --> 00:53:34.030 choosing what I want to do, when I want to do 00:53:34.030 --> 00:53:37.690 it. But the 5 % missing, they're still bothering 00:53:37.690 --> 00:53:41.969 me, which is a little bit... So that threshold 00:53:41.969 --> 00:53:50.550 is... Yeah, kind of low. But I'm still... So 00:53:50.550 --> 00:53:54.849 on the one hand, I think I'm still good at finding 00:53:54.849 --> 00:53:56.670 the good thing. Like I was telling you, when 00:53:56.670 --> 00:53:59.730 people tell me, why is that a subscription like 00:53:59.730 --> 00:54:04.380 they did after the dev... Yeah, that's a topic 00:54:04.380 --> 00:54:07.440 that I want to cover. That's a big problem that 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.760 people have, right? The subscription thing, yeah. 00:54:10.920 --> 00:54:16.440 But then like I can, I answered this last year 00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:18.920 and like two years ago and oh, this is a good 00:54:18.920 --> 00:54:23.099 opportunity to explain again and make myself 00:54:23.099 --> 00:54:27.300 clear plus to other people plus to myself. What's 00:54:27.300 --> 00:54:29.989 the answer to that? Why is it subscription -based? 00:54:30.230 --> 00:54:35.110 So you can refer them to this video. Yeah, I 00:54:35.110 --> 00:54:40.690 mean, there's... The answer I gave, it's not 00:54:40.690 --> 00:54:49.210 really... I can show you and we can go through 00:54:49.210 --> 00:54:53.949 the points because there is no rational... I 00:54:53.949 --> 00:54:59.250 could tell you like... Guys, let me answer on 00:54:59.250 --> 00:55:02.789 my side first. Why do I have YouTube subscriptions? 00:55:03.489 --> 00:55:06.630 Because I have to eat and I don't care what people 00:55:06.630 --> 00:55:09.130 think. If you want to get it and support me, 00:55:09.250 --> 00:55:12.510 it's great. If not, just move on, go to another 00:55:12.510 --> 00:55:16.070 channel, whatever you want, right? So I have 00:55:16.070 --> 00:55:20.030 the right to charge for something if I want, 00:55:20.130 --> 00:55:22.489 right? A product. This is somewhat a product, 00:55:22.550 --> 00:55:26.360 the channel as well and all that stuff. Why not? 00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:30.139 That's my answer. It's free market. Yeah. It's 00:55:30.139 --> 00:55:33.219 like, I could understand. I guess I could understand, 00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:37.699 but I guess people didn't know. New people don't 00:55:37.699 --> 00:55:40.280 know this. And I've mentioned this. I'm just 00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:42.539 thinking about it now. I've mentioned this in 00:55:42.539 --> 00:55:46.099 the GitHub issue about this, which I told people 00:55:46.099 --> 00:55:48.239 from the start, this is going to cost one coffee. 00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:51.239 Like the price is not going to go up. So I guess. 00:55:51.869 --> 00:55:54.909 Some people might be afraid that they get it 00:55:54.909 --> 00:55:57.630 and then they get used to it. And then one day 00:55:57.630 --> 00:55:59.650 the price goes triple and then they're like, 00:55:59.750 --> 00:56:03.630 oh, fuck, you know, I didn't. But from the start, 00:56:03.670 --> 00:56:08.889 I told people because, again, if you want to 00:56:08.889 --> 00:56:11.949 talk rationally and some people on the YouTube 00:56:11.949 --> 00:56:15.570 comment on the DevOps, they mention, and I think 00:56:15.570 --> 00:56:18.969 on the GitHub, something like, they want to see 00:56:18.969 --> 00:56:23.539 how much I work. to like, why should I pay you 00:56:23.539 --> 00:56:26.719 months? How much work do you do? Like, what do 00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:30.000 you care? It makes up like, um, um, are you my, 00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.880 are you my boss? Like this makes absolutely no 00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:38.380 sense. Right. So, so you can't because, and that 00:56:38.380 --> 00:56:41.320 person wanted to, he wanted to pay one time. 00:56:41.420 --> 00:56:44.579 And I, and I told him like, even, and there's 00:56:44.579 --> 00:56:46.820 some other people say they want to pay 100 us 00:56:46.820 --> 00:56:49.500 or something like there is no one time price. 00:56:50.329 --> 00:56:56.349 that will cover the amount of work and time and 00:56:56.349 --> 00:56:59.489 energy that I put into this already. I'm not 00:56:59.489 --> 00:57:03.349 even talking in the future because, and I don't 00:57:03.349 --> 00:57:06.429 want to use this as a point to tell people, yeah, 00:57:06.489 --> 00:57:08.630 you should pay me one coffee per month because 00:57:08.630 --> 00:57:15.550 I have like, technically my apps are like abusing 00:57:15.550 --> 00:57:19.300 the macOS accessibility. I always have to like, 00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:21.860 there's always new stuff to check. There's always 00:57:21.860 --> 00:57:25.300 new apps. Like the next release is going to add 00:57:25.300 --> 00:57:27.800 support for like 10 new apps. And then there's 00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:32.820 those shit electron apps that use premium engine 00:57:32.820 --> 00:57:36.059 that keeps breaking. And there's always like, 00:57:36.139 --> 00:57:39.900 it's been my day to day work for the past five 00:57:39.900 --> 00:57:43.619 years. And in, and to make sure that you who 00:57:43.619 --> 00:57:46.940 pays one coffee per month, You don't have to 00:57:46.940 --> 00:57:50.059 think about it. You use it, it works, and there's 00:57:50.059 --> 00:57:53.119 an update, and it takes care of new apps. And 00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:57.960 upon breaking some AX APIs and stuff, my job 00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.920 is to take care of this so that you, paying one 00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:03.039 coffee a month, you have a smooth experience. 00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:13.670 If I tell someone this, even if I convince them 00:58:13.670 --> 00:58:15.670 to, oh yeah, okay, I'm going to, they're already 00:58:15.670 --> 00:58:18.510 the wrong customer. Yep. They don't get it. It's 00:58:18.510 --> 00:58:20.389 not going to. They're not the right customer. 00:58:20.829 --> 00:58:24.110 And like convincing for like three US a month, 00:58:24.230 --> 00:58:27.489 the thing that should, that you should like, 00:58:27.570 --> 00:58:32.110 I think hopefully if, if people have, they value 00:58:32.110 --> 00:58:35.789 their time and energy and pleasure. If you use 00:58:35.789 --> 00:58:38.869 macOS and you, you're used to your Vim moves 00:58:38.869 --> 00:58:41.539 and you use the app and you find like, oh shit, 00:58:41.619 --> 00:58:44.820 this is fun. Like that makes my day -to -day 00:58:44.820 --> 00:58:48.199 use of macOS better. Is it worth like three US 00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:52.280 a month? Fuck yeah, that's it. And probably that's 00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:54.519 what happens with a lot of, and I think we talked 00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:58.679 a bit about this like last time, but so currently 00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:02.619 there's like 300 something people, right? And 00:59:02.619 --> 00:59:07.739 I hear about a few of them once a year to tell 00:59:07.739 --> 00:59:12.000 me like that they love the thing. They just don't 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:15.179 want this to disappear. But usually, satisfied 00:59:15.179 --> 00:59:18.940 customers, you don't hear about them. Yeah, unhappy 00:59:18.940 --> 00:59:23.079 ones. The 10 people who are never going to buy 00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:25.480 your products, they're the ones who are going 00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:31.159 to voice, voice, voice, voice their thing. And 00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:35.440 yeah, free market. I think I'm quite still in 00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:40.030 the readme of... Kind of Vim or Wish or Scrawlr, 00:59:40.150 --> 00:59:42.630 you have a list of alternatives. You can go... 00:59:42.630 --> 00:59:46.789 You put a list there, but it's just a fake list, 00:59:46.989 --> 00:59:50.010 right? Is there anything similar to Kind of Vim? 00:59:51.409 --> 00:59:55.889 Like if I go to DaVinci Resolve and I want to 00:59:55.889 --> 00:59:59.690 use Vim Motions there, is there something out 00:59:59.690 --> 01:00:04.869 there that really does? No. There's options for 01:00:04.869 --> 01:00:09.960 the browser and stuff like that, right? Yeah, 01:00:10.059 --> 01:00:14.039 but the ones I don't link, I don't have links 01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:17.480 to the browser ones. I have links more like to 01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:20.260 Carabiner Elements. If you just want like JK 01:00:20.260 --> 01:00:23.699 and stuff for your list and stuff, you can build 01:00:23.699 --> 01:00:30.599 a few of them yourselves. You can, yeah. Also, 01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:32.239 like we talked about this last time, I think, 01:00:32.260 --> 01:00:36.099 but I... There's a reason why there's no competitors. 01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:38.739 This is a very bad business. This is not business. 01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:45.300 It's a crazy thing to get into. It's a very crazy 01:00:45.300 --> 01:00:48.820 thing to get into. And the amount of work, again, 01:00:48.900 --> 01:00:54.719 because the AX APIs are not done for that, so 01:00:54.719 --> 01:01:00.119 it's really me, and especially the amount of 01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:04.269 data that you need to have to... be able to make 01:01:04.269 --> 01:01:09.050 a move like i i was lucky somehow i just that 01:01:09.050 --> 01:01:11.829 was my it was during covid or so i was like stuck 01:01:11.829 --> 01:01:15.869 in my i needed to find something to to do and 01:01:15.869 --> 01:01:19.389 then okay i went into it and then i after only 01:01:19.389 --> 01:01:22.610 like two years like like wow wait oh wait we 01:01:22.610 --> 01:01:25.110 have this data and that data and this thing and 01:01:25.110 --> 01:01:27.469 that thing and i wrap this and blah blah and 01:01:27.469 --> 01:01:33.440 wow we can we can do this so it's just not pure 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:38.900 luck but but there's a part that uh yeah if you 01:01:38.900 --> 01:01:42.539 think about like oh i'm like making money forget 01:01:42.539 --> 01:01:46.300 you you don't jump into this yeah just if you 01:01:46.300 --> 01:01:49.400 think about mac os it's a limited audience then 01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:52.840 if you think about vim it's even more limited 01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:57.840 now combine those two yeah mac os and vim yeah 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:01.460 it's a pretty small niche community so there's 01:02:01.460 --> 01:02:05.599 no one -time payment then well you do have like 01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:11.059 a yearly payment correct yeah okay yeah but it's 01:02:11.059 --> 01:02:14.360 gonna be yeah like if you if you stop paying 01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:18.039 then it goes back to insulting you in the mornings 01:02:18.039 --> 01:02:22.179 yeah so it's still five to one i think it's five 01:02:22.179 --> 01:02:26.159 to one pm That was when I was sleeping. But it's 01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:30.179 the exact same thing. It's the exact same thing 01:02:30.179 --> 01:02:33.340 that if you go to Netflix and complain that why 01:02:33.340 --> 01:02:37.139 is Netflix not free, right? Like, man, if you 01:02:37.139 --> 01:02:39.679 want to use Netflix, pay for it. If you don't, 01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:43.639 just move on and go and use something else. But 01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:47.239 it's free market, right? It's free market. So 01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:51.610 exactly like you. And when I tell this to people, 01:02:51.710 --> 01:02:57.449 I don't mean it in a mean way. I'm not holding 01:02:57.449 --> 01:03:03.409 a patent. You can really research and you can 01:03:03.409 --> 01:03:07.409 do what I did. You can build it. If you don't 01:03:07.409 --> 01:03:10.190 want to pay, just build it. Or use something. 01:03:10.789 --> 01:03:14.389 So that was the issue when I was telling you 01:03:14.389 --> 01:03:16.769 when I switched back to closed source. Because 01:03:16.769 --> 01:03:20.179 I was like, okay. no open source support. Plus 01:03:20.179 --> 01:03:22.659 the fact that how I approach, like I was telling 01:03:22.659 --> 01:03:26.079 you this thing of, I think people have the, so 01:03:26.079 --> 01:03:29.659 people have the right to ask and I have the right 01:03:29.659 --> 01:03:34.900 to ignore, but I kind of feel guilty if I, so 01:03:34.900 --> 01:03:38.480 it's my own problem, but okay, still. So I would 01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:42.800 get requests from people telling me, yeah, I 01:03:42.800 --> 01:03:45.860 cannot, I can't make it work. Like they got the 01:03:45.860 --> 01:03:47.969 source, they cannot make it work. So I would 01:03:47.969 --> 01:03:51.010 just copy paste, you know, the link and I would 01:03:51.010 --> 01:03:53.389 say like, I don't do any open source support. 01:03:53.690 --> 01:03:57.469 So you can buy a license. Oh yeah, but like, 01:03:57.489 --> 01:04:00.510 you know, I don't want to. Okay, so here's the 01:04:00.510 --> 01:04:03.050 list of alternatives. Oh yeah, but Canavim works 01:04:03.050 --> 01:04:07.409 better. So only after this, I'll be like, okay, 01:04:07.449 --> 01:04:10.409 man, like then basically you just want the thing 01:04:10.409 --> 01:04:12.530 without paying and without doing the effort. 01:04:13.630 --> 01:04:15.510 You just want everything. You don't care about 01:04:15.510 --> 01:04:18.809 open source. You care about it being free. And 01:04:18.809 --> 01:04:20.909 you don't want to do the effort and stuff. So 01:04:20.909 --> 01:04:23.969 I'm sorry, like, okay, then I'm okay ignoring 01:04:23.969 --> 01:04:27.769 after this. But it's like hundreds of things, 01:04:27.849 --> 01:04:32.789 like things keep repeating. So I close the source 01:04:32.789 --> 01:04:35.929 and then I know it's, but I have to take care 01:04:35.929 --> 01:04:38.710 of myself, right? So I close the source and after 01:04:38.710 --> 01:04:41.150 this, I'm totally okay to ignore the messages. 01:04:42.429 --> 01:04:44.929 Man, your internet is shit. Your camera looks 01:04:44.929 --> 01:04:47.550 like shit sometimes. But there's nothing you 01:04:47.550 --> 01:04:50.690 can do about it. It's fine. Maybe it's just my 01:04:50.690 --> 01:04:54.989 face. We have a typhoon here. I don't know if 01:04:54.989 --> 01:05:00.610 it's... Maybe it's breaking some cable somewhere. 01:05:01.349 --> 01:05:04.949 Okay, now, regarding the question to inspect 01:05:04.949 --> 01:05:10.050 the software auditing company, have you ever 01:05:10.050 --> 01:05:12.960 thought about that or no? I know it's more money, 01:05:13.059 --> 01:05:15.820 it's more work, it's a lot of stuff that would 01:05:15.820 --> 01:05:19.300 be getting involved. So, have you thought about 01:05:19.300 --> 01:05:27.579 that? I've seen that for, like, online software, 01:05:27.599 --> 01:05:30.960 but no, I haven't thought about this for, like, 01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:36.920 Mac apps. No. I don't know why. Maybe I thought, 01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:39.860 like, because online you can, like, test endpoints. 01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:44.960 And, and in the binary app, it's a little bit, 01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:47.219 uh, it's different, but like, yeah, I guess, 01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:52.539 um, I guess that could be something. Okay. Something 01:05:52.539 --> 01:05:55.300 to think about. Yep. I don't care. I just wanted 01:05:55.300 --> 01:05:57.519 to cover my basis, you know, cause there's people 01:05:57.519 --> 01:06:00.840 that want to ask about that, you know, so, uh, 01:06:01.099 --> 01:06:03.280 I don't know if I trust you. I don't know if 01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:05.800 I trust you or not, but what choice do I have? 01:06:06.269 --> 01:06:09.190 Right? I'm French, you should know. French, cheap. 01:06:09.510 --> 01:06:16.929 We're cheap bastards. Now, we covered the questions 01:06:16.929 --> 01:06:20.090 that I had here. Is there anything else you want 01:06:20.090 --> 01:06:29.949 to discuss? So we've been through your list already? 01:06:30.449 --> 01:06:36.880 Yep. Wow. I don't know. I was talking and then 01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:39.039 it goes in several directions. I've mentioned 01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:41.320 the closed source stuff. Was there something 01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:46.179 else? Yeah, the subscription, closed source. 01:06:46.699 --> 01:06:55.460 Yeah, the subscription. Let me check. So somebody 01:06:55.460 --> 01:07:03.780 asked on the... Oh, we could talk a little bit 01:07:03.780 --> 01:07:08.510 about the... the last release of kind of him 01:07:08.510 --> 01:07:11.769 i did the integration of carabiner and it seems 01:07:11.769 --> 01:07:16.730 to be working pretty well yeah yeah somebody 01:07:16.730 --> 01:07:20.250 was asking for the one oh no always that's an 01:07:20.250 --> 01:07:24.809 somebody else asking again why subscription model 01:07:24.809 --> 01:07:29.670 it's like when i was what i was writing yeah 01:07:29.670 --> 01:07:32.980 i can i can tell you a summary because I started 01:07:32.980 --> 01:07:35.599 telling that person to understand that this is 01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:39.480 not logical. I can explain why that came with 01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:44.940 like $3 .28. The $3 .28 price. What about the 01:07:44.940 --> 01:07:47.940 brew installation? Why so serious is saying there? 01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:50.599 What do you mean the brew installation? Why so 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:54.260 serious? That we didn't have a command to install 01:07:54.260 --> 01:07:56.780 and brew? Because if you went to the documentation 01:07:56.780 --> 01:08:00.980 like a couple months ago, there was no brew installation 01:08:00.980 --> 01:08:04.860 command. Like you didn't know if the root package 01:08:04.860 --> 01:08:07.579 was the real one or if you were installing like 01:08:07.579 --> 01:08:10.679 a Trojan or something, you had no idea. But that 01:08:10.679 --> 01:08:13.440 was implemented recently, thanks to me, right? 01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:20.000 Yeah. Why did you add it? The docs got a little 01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:24.779 bit better. Why did I add it? Yep. Because that 01:08:24.779 --> 01:08:36.119 made sense. I didn't... Yeah, like if... I mean, 01:08:36.140 --> 01:08:38.819 there's a bunch, like the docs, it's part of 01:08:38.819 --> 01:08:45.579 the... There's this thing that I have in my list, 01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:47.460 which is like, okay, I need to focus on like 01:08:47.460 --> 01:08:50.100 the marketing, right? Which is like, I should 01:08:50.100 --> 01:08:55.000 redo the side, the videos are like a bit old, 01:08:55.119 --> 01:08:58.039 like the character windows is like huge, which 01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:00.640 is not the case anymore. Like I should redo... 01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:05.899 But the, so the docs are so part of, not really 01:09:05.899 --> 01:09:09.260 marketing, but it's, the docs can, could definitely 01:09:09.260 --> 01:09:13.859 be better. But I kind of always postpone, I'm 01:09:13.859 --> 01:09:16.859 more like excited about working on the backend 01:09:16.859 --> 01:09:21.439 of kind of Veeam. And when you mentioned, I think 01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:24.020 at first you wasn't even in Homebrew and then 01:09:24.020 --> 01:09:26.319 somebody mentioned like, yeah, developers, come 01:09:26.319 --> 01:09:28.859 on, they install like even apps through Homebrew. 01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:35.090 So it's like, oh yeah, okay. So I did. But it 01:09:35.090 --> 01:09:39.630 was like, okay, people, they may try or the, 01:09:39.710 --> 01:09:43.569 you know, if they use homebrew, great. If they 01:09:43.569 --> 01:09:45.489 don't, it's fine. But you're, I think you're 01:09:45.489 --> 01:09:48.229 the first one who told me like, hey, what about 01:09:48.229 --> 01:09:50.909 if somebody is kind of impersonating? How do 01:09:50.909 --> 01:09:53.850 people know it's their real? And I just never 01:09:53.850 --> 01:09:57.289 really thought about this. So when you mentioned 01:09:57.289 --> 01:09:59.170 this, I was like, oh, yeah, okay. That makes 01:09:59.170 --> 01:10:03.800 sense too. To make it clear. So even I make it 01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:07.140 clear. I think there's your name, no? Yeah. And 01:10:07.140 --> 01:10:10.060 there's a link to your... Are you making money 01:10:10.060 --> 01:10:13.960 from... From you? Yeah, exactly. This page has 01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:16.939 been requested by Link Arzu. And then it links 01:10:16.939 --> 01:10:20.439 to your YouTube. Because he's a baby. Oh my God, 01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:25.039 this is so fun. I should be making money out 01:10:25.039 --> 01:10:26.640 of this. You know what? You should give me a 01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:32.039 dollar per subscription. at home yeah wow i'm 01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:36.680 already giving one dollar to paddle they're like 01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:40.000 they're heavy on uh okay maybe not 75 cents i 01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:42.399 think now let me show you this let me show you 01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:45.720 this something that i just that i just discovered 01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:50.680 right now notice that the the k works now okay 01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:54.760 okay i can type the k and it works but look at 01:10:54.760 --> 01:11:00.800 what happens when i do this settings uh here 01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:03.979 because i said it enter normal mode to escape 01:11:03.979 --> 01:11:11.479 okay jay yeah could it be related to the to this 01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:18.000 let's see and i set it to 120 and uh let's see 01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:27.069 i mean i never got the nope oh I think there's 01:11:27.069 --> 01:11:30.029 something else taking over. So I don't know. 01:11:30.310 --> 01:11:33.130 Oh, I have to press it twice. I have to press 01:11:33.130 --> 01:11:37.489 it twice. Let me see. So I think something is... 01:11:37.489 --> 01:11:42.270 You have another app. Yeah, Canada. That is capturing 01:11:42.270 --> 01:11:44.350 everything. That is taking care of the first 01:11:44.350 --> 01:11:47.890 key or something. I will check for sure, but 01:11:47.890 --> 01:11:52.090 I never had the command. And there's automated 01:11:52.090 --> 01:11:56.439 tests for this. And it's working. Oh, but I can 01:11:56.439 --> 01:11:59.680 type it twice. I don't care. Because, let me 01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:02.699 show you something. All of the videos that I 01:12:02.699 --> 01:12:05.100 have been recording, they have an uppercase K 01:12:05.100 --> 01:12:09.760 everywhere. If I need to add a K, because I cannot 01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:13.680 type a freaking lowercase K. But if I need to 01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:15.600 type a double, that's fine. But I'm pretty sure 01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:19.579 it's related to Canada. Yeah. It's weird. Canada, 01:12:19.739 --> 01:12:21.920 kind of, there is something going on in there. 01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:26.760 But didn't you mention that Canata is using Carabiner 01:12:26.760 --> 01:12:29.640 in the background? Canata is using the Carabiner 01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:37.939 driver in the background. So it's not using Carabiner's 01:12:37.939 --> 01:12:42.640 complex modification things. No, just the driver. 01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:48.199 It's using its own... Okay. I don't know. I will 01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:54.750 check. Okay. Now... chat the only person that 01:12:54.750 --> 01:12:57.149 is in chat is why so serious any questions that 01:12:57.149 --> 01:13:01.930 chat has or any other topics that you want to 01:13:01.930 --> 01:13:09.350 talk about g uh well let me write this uh any 01:13:09.350 --> 01:13:17.329 other topic um uh i don't have anything in mind 01:13:17.329 --> 01:13:20.949 now oh maybe yeah just a little bit like uh there's 01:13:20.949 --> 01:13:25.390 there's a there's a guy so i've released the 01:13:25.390 --> 01:13:28.470 integration with carabiner okay right for like 01:13:28.470 --> 01:13:32.189 for like scroller and scroller first and then 01:13:32.189 --> 01:13:35.430 because there were some keys hot coded for some 01:13:35.430 --> 01:13:40.609 for a guy so it was a good time to remove them 01:13:40.609 --> 01:13:43.699 and like go through carabiner so like And then 01:13:43.699 --> 01:13:46.199 I release, I like to release new stuff through 01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:48.319 Scrawl at first because I think it's like less 01:13:48.319 --> 01:13:50.939 used maybe and it's like free. So if I fuck up 01:13:50.939 --> 01:13:53.180 something, I'm like, yeah, it's free app. So 01:13:53.180 --> 01:13:56.439 you can't expect too much, right? So, but like 01:13:56.439 --> 01:13:58.819 Scrawl and then after I release in Wuxi and then 01:13:58.819 --> 01:14:02.899 in Canavium. And yes, some people are like linking, 01:14:03.060 --> 01:14:06.939 like. But what is it for? Can you explain that 01:14:06.939 --> 01:14:08.699 integration, the Carabiner Elements integration? 01:14:08.859 --> 01:14:12.600 What is it for? So it's going to be to remap. 01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:16.300 keys like so some uh there's some examples in 01:14:16.300 --> 01:14:23.819 the because i show it uh i don't let me or just 01:14:23.819 --> 01:14:26.560 i don't understand the concept just let me know 01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:29.579 because if i needed to create mappings i did 01:14:29.579 --> 01:14:31.619 it in carabiner because i used carabiner for 01:14:31.619 --> 01:14:34.359 a long time like a year maybe and i had a lot 01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:38.180 of crazy complex stuff there but is it like an 01:14:38.180 --> 01:14:45.489 interface to create mappings So what Anavim does 01:14:45.489 --> 01:14:51.569 is exposing variables to Karabiner. So in Karabiner, 01:14:51.829 --> 01:14:58.149 you can now say, okay, if I'm in visual mode 01:14:58.149 --> 01:15:04.729 on Safari, when I press Q, open a new tab. So 01:15:04.729 --> 01:15:08.609 you can basically remap. So there were kind of 01:15:08.609 --> 01:15:11.640 two issues that I had in the past. with kind 01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:13.680 of him because when i started like keyboards 01:15:13.680 --> 01:15:19.020 are like quite hard to deal with like there's 01:15:19.020 --> 01:15:22.560 like hardware key codes virtual key codes there's 01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:26.060 like nc keyboards easel keyboard it's kind of 01:15:26.060 --> 01:15:29.500 a messy thing and um and when i started like 01:15:29.500 --> 01:15:31.920 dealing with this i was okay you know what i'm 01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:34.460 just going to focus on what i use which is like 01:15:34.460 --> 01:15:38.260 us keyboard And then I got like some people saying, 01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:40.100 oh, on the French keyboard, there's some keys 01:15:40.100 --> 01:15:43.260 that don't work because when you press a combination 01:15:43.260 --> 01:15:47.180 of like shift and something, it's some American, 01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:49.279 you're going to use shift. French, you're not 01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:51.920 going to use shift. It's very messy. So I focused 01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:55.520 on American. And then maybe finally a few months 01:15:55.520 --> 01:16:02.779 ago, I expanded this to every kind of keyboard 01:16:02.779 --> 01:16:05.960 layout, but there was still... So that part was 01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:08.600 solved, but there was still an issue where people 01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:13.020 would be like, yeah, I want to remap, you know, 01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:16.800 like Vim remapping, like rather than, I don't 01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:21.920 know, like, I don't even know because I don't 01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:24.479 like custom things. I use the basic, but maybe 01:16:24.479 --> 01:16:28.020 rather than CIW, they want to press one key that 01:16:28.020 --> 01:16:31.960 does this instead. So now you can do this through 01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:38.060 Carabiner. Canavim exposes those variables and 01:16:38.060 --> 01:16:41.079 then you tell in your complex modification, you 01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:44.319 can say, okay, when I'm in normal mode, so if 01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:48.880 you don't care about all the carabiner options 01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:54.300 first, you just focus on Canavim, you could say 01:16:54.300 --> 01:16:58.520 like, okay, when I'm in normal mode and I press 01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:06.380 Q, it does C -I -W or something. Yeah, it does 01:17:06.380 --> 01:17:11.260 C -I -W, for example, yeah. But when I'm in visual 01:17:11.260 --> 01:17:13.939 mode and I press Q, it does like something else. 01:17:14.119 --> 01:17:17.880 So you can create different mapping according 01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:22.579 to kind of in this mode. But then because Carabiner 01:17:22.579 --> 01:17:25.739 comes with its own whole set of like options 01:17:25.739 --> 01:17:28.239 and stuff, you can basically do a lot or you 01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:31.479 can say like, yeah, only when I'm in normal mode 01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:36.840 on Safari, then you map that key or those keys 01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:39.239 to like this thing, and then you can basically 01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:41.239 do whatever you want. This is like pretty cool. 01:17:41.420 --> 01:17:46.079 And some guy, because there's this new pod, which 01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:47.800 is the integration with Carabiner, but there 01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:51.619 is also a JSON file where I would, it's been 01:17:51.619 --> 01:17:54.119 there for like maybe two years or so, like where 01:17:54.119 --> 01:17:59.159 I expose the, currently I only expose the current 01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:02.399 Vim mode. So you can watch this with Hammerspoon 01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:07.600 and then you can send to like whatever you want. 01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:11.579 So this guy, he's posting quite a lot on GitHub 01:18:11.579 --> 01:18:15.720 currently. He's been like connecting Canavim 01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:20.640 with Sketchy Bar. So like his bar changes according 01:18:20.640 --> 01:18:26.220 to Canavim's mode. And then he's using like MimeStream. 01:18:28.090 --> 01:18:31.829 the email client and he's going all around his 01:18:31.829 --> 01:18:35.529 boxes and everything all through keyboard remapping 01:18:35.529 --> 01:18:39.890 like kind of him carabiner remapping so like 01:18:39.890 --> 01:18:44.550 he's uh yeah so it's like if you uh if he's and 01:18:44.550 --> 01:18:48.289 and because he's using hammerspoon to check or 01:18:48.289 --> 01:18:52.609 so like the the accessibility role of the thing 01:18:52.609 --> 01:18:56.170 so he's been doing like uh okay if he's on the 01:18:56.170 --> 01:19:00.319 list And he pressed this key in normal mode. 01:19:00.579 --> 01:19:05.100 Then he's changing email box. But if he's inside 01:19:05.100 --> 01:19:08.560 the text, the composer, then the guy is just 01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:15.199 like having fun kind of controlling his old email 01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:17.899 client. And even I was like, wow, for this, I 01:19:17.899 --> 01:19:21.500 would use, I build Wuxi for this to go on UI 01:19:21.500 --> 01:19:23.880 elements. But he's remapping the whole thing 01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:26.319 through. through kind of him and carabiner just 01:19:26.319 --> 01:19:31.300 to do everything through him, uh, moves. So that's, 01:19:31.300 --> 01:19:34.760 that's, yeah, it's pretty cool. Okay. So that 01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:37.920 integration was quite a, and finally it's, uh, 01:19:37.920 --> 01:19:42.659 it, it took like, I've been asked about this 01:19:42.659 --> 01:19:50.359 for, uh, maybe since the beginning. And, uh, 01:19:50.520 --> 01:19:56.250 I started developing my own, remapping in scroller 01:19:56.250 --> 01:20:00.090 first. And it took me six months of work. I was 01:20:00.090 --> 01:20:02.189 pulling my hair. It was like a fucking nightmare. 01:20:02.470 --> 01:20:05.550 And then at the end, I, somebody mentioned like 01:20:05.550 --> 01:20:09.409 the variables in, in carabiner and what, and 01:20:09.409 --> 01:20:13.949 then the integration with carabiner to it's a 01:20:13.949 --> 01:20:16.609 few weeks. This is like just crazy. And even 01:20:16.609 --> 01:20:19.899 like few weeks is because I, because I, want 01:20:19.899 --> 01:20:22.100 to have like automated tests to make sure that 01:20:22.100 --> 01:20:24.800 everything works properly. But the code itself 01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:27.640 was like a couple of lines. It was like, why 01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:30.539 it took me so long to, to just understand that 01:20:30.539 --> 01:20:33.880 that was right there. Crazy. Oh yeah. Carabiner 01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:37.220 is really complex, man. A really complex tool. 01:20:38.420 --> 01:20:41.500 Yeah, but it's, yeah, it's me. I mean, like, 01:20:41.500 --> 01:20:43.939 yeah, I didn't know enough. And the integration 01:20:43.939 --> 01:20:46.880 is very easy. It's actually quite simple because 01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:52.560 I have the, the, CLI that you just call with 01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:57.199 some variables, some JSON syntax thing. Because 01:20:57.199 --> 01:21:01.119 I don't use it for my... I don't custom things 01:21:01.119 --> 01:21:06.279 for myself. I didn't have the need. And I thought 01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:08.460 it would be way more complicated than this, but 01:21:08.460 --> 01:21:14.180 no. And it's very cool to... And I've been donating 01:21:14.180 --> 01:21:17.239 to the Carabiner. I've been donating to Hammerspoon 01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:20.170 and Carabiner for Some years, I think, already. 01:21:21.170 --> 01:21:26.770 And that's very cool for me to push this to that. 01:21:27.409 --> 01:21:33.630 It's a great tool, well done, tested, used by 01:21:33.630 --> 01:21:38.250 a lot of people. If I had to, and it's providing 01:21:38.250 --> 01:21:44.010 so much stuff, you can remap according to your 01:21:44.010 --> 01:21:48.229 input layout, the language, the physical. brand 01:21:48.229 --> 01:21:51.010 of your keyboard like it's just crazy the amount 01:21:51.010 --> 01:21:54.010 of work that i would have to do to reach that 01:21:54.010 --> 01:21:56.189 thing it's just another tool yeah it's just another 01:21:56.189 --> 01:21:58.789 tool completely so that was very cool to be able 01:21:58.789 --> 01:22:01.649 to integrate with this and it's opening yeah 01:22:01.649 --> 01:22:06.229 i'm quite um it's it's interesting because i'm 01:22:06.229 --> 01:22:11.130 i'm excited and happy but also a little bit uh 01:22:11.130 --> 01:22:17.760 it's not really fearful but because When somebody 01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:20.399 asks something about Canavium, I can answer right 01:22:20.399 --> 01:22:22.840 away because I know the whole thing. But now 01:22:22.840 --> 01:22:25.979 that if somebody asking something that is related 01:22:25.979 --> 01:22:29.880 to carabiner, I feel like, wow, sometimes, you 01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:32.000 know, that feeling where you can't even say like, 01:22:32.119 --> 01:22:37.640 you can't even tell people. That's not possible. 01:22:37.859 --> 01:22:41.340 Like you don't know. Because you don't know enough. 01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:47.420 And that part is a little bit scary. yeah yeah 01:22:47.420 --> 01:22:50.579 this is getting out of my control so it's a little 01:22:50.579 --> 01:22:54.899 bit uh but then i i see people like doing their 01:22:54.899 --> 01:22:57.000 stuff and like sharing and telling me like oh 01:22:57.000 --> 01:22:59.960 this i'm able to do that this is crazy it's so 01:22:59.960 --> 01:23:03.079 fun so like wow okay cool yeah i didn't know 01:23:03.079 --> 01:23:05.180 this is getting getting out of my hands yeah 01:23:05.180 --> 01:23:08.380 yeah which is like it's it's cool and scary at 01:23:08.380 --> 01:23:11.119 the same time all right interesting yeah all 01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:14.750 righty i have to drop thanks for all right being 01:23:14.750 --> 01:23:17.529 here is there any final thing that you want to 01:23:17.529 --> 01:23:22.989 you want to say uh i didn't think about anything 01:23:22.989 --> 01:23:27.069 but like if uh same thing i'm like if you know 01:23:27.069 --> 01:23:30.430 people uh it's always a pleasure to catch up 01:23:30.430 --> 01:23:32.689 with you second time i hope there's going to 01:23:32.689 --> 01:23:35.550 be more time yeah we can just just chat like 01:23:35.550 --> 01:23:39.229 this you know yeah it's very cool yeah how long 01:23:39.229 --> 01:23:41.569 it's been it's been two hours already almost 01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:46.399 yeah yeah you don't feel the time when you're 01:23:46.399 --> 01:23:54.060 with me right no not at all but uh yeah i mean 01:23:54.060 --> 01:23:58.199 same thing like you know like uh i remember you 01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:00.539 asking me last time if i was planning to sell 01:24:00.539 --> 01:24:03.119 the apps and you know and this is still not part 01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:06.680 of the the plans i'm planning to build this for 01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:11.000 as long as i can It's getting harder. Like this 01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:12.960 part is kind of true. It's getting hard. Like 01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:20.260 I've released an update for Bushy some days ago 01:24:20.260 --> 01:24:23.899 and it took me like weeks to cause the Apple 01:24:23.899 --> 01:24:27.319 changed like the money bar system and they're 01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:31.420 even giving less information. Try. I don't know 01:24:31.420 --> 01:24:35.140 if they're like just trying to. privacy thing 01:24:35.140 --> 01:24:38.720 again to just keep data because they use that 01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:41.020 data just for themselves, but they don't allow 01:24:41.020 --> 01:24:47.239 third -party developers to have it. So I find 01:24:47.239 --> 01:24:49.439 it's getting harder and harder to deal with. 01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:51.239 So I don't know if they do it on purpose or it's 01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:55.819 just like the new developers that develop macOS 01:24:55.819 --> 01:25:01.520 and iOS. It feels like the new release, they 01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:04.720 want to make it look cool, but... There's a lot 01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:11.720 of broken things. So luckily, I've been able 01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:15.180 to go around that thing. So I hope it's going 01:25:15.180 --> 01:25:21.119 to last for some time. But yeah, the plan is 01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:24.119 still to, you know, I'm currently using the Mac. 01:25:24.340 --> 01:25:29.359 I want to keep this going. I keep the apps updated. 01:25:29.439 --> 01:25:33.239 There's going to be a new release. kind of him 01:25:33.239 --> 01:25:38.140 soon with like maybe 10 10 12 new apps supported 01:25:38.140 --> 01:25:42.479 it's gonna be plugins later but i need to think 01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:48.319 about um yeah that's gonna be the big next thing 01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:55.100 uh yeah people can reach out always i'm glad 01:25:55.100 --> 01:25:58.560 to you know talk uh and that's my main thing 01:25:58.560 --> 01:26:01.300 so like yeah it's not like i'm i have a job that 01:26:01.300 --> 01:26:05.270 i know if people answer i'll or they write something 01:26:05.270 --> 01:26:09.630 i'll most probably within the same day i'll i'll 01:26:09.630 --> 01:26:14.569 respond get in touch yeah okay his thing is very 01:26:14.569 --> 01:26:18.609 cool to be close to your users you know yeah 01:26:18.609 --> 01:26:22.529 yeah all right stay small and be close thank 01:26:22.529 --> 01:26:25.630 you no it was pleasure always really appreciate 01:26:25.630 --> 01:26:29.210 it and uh welcome The final thing that I want 01:26:29.210 --> 01:26:32.189 to do is thank the CEOs because I have memberships. 01:26:32.810 --> 01:26:35.529 Well, you know, but you decide not to get it. 01:26:35.689 --> 01:26:40.310 But I have a CEO, web23 .com. I always leave 01:26:40.310 --> 01:26:42.689 the credits here in the video, right? So you 01:26:42.689 --> 01:26:45.270 will see them. I'm a pro, man. So yeah, just 01:26:45.270 --> 01:26:49.050 wanted to do that. And thank you for your time. 01:26:49.229 --> 01:26:51.569 Really appreciate it. Hope we meet soon again, 01:26:51.770 --> 01:26:54.909 man. Yeah, yeah, sure. Thank you. Have a nice 01:26:54.909 --> 01:26:56.069 day, man. You too. Bye.