Liz told me today that those are lyrics of a
song I didn't know. So that makes me realize
how cultivated you are, actually, our culture.
Man, that's a pretty famous song. How come you
haven't heard about it? Probably because it's
sung by a woman, so I don't really listen. I'm
just kidding. This is the list of topics that
we're going to be covering today. Can you see
my screen or no? I can, yeah. You can see it?
Okay. One of them is, are French folks cheap?
Because I have memberships and I don't see you
listed as a member in my YouTube channel. Why?
What's the excuse? Let me hear it. You're living
in Macau. Like, are you a refugee or something?
Living the John McAfee life? Read this. Read
this. I cannot say it. So this is the way that
I imagined you. Have you seen the history of
John McAfee? I did. Yeah, of course. If you're
listening to this as a podcast, remember that
it was originally recorded as a video. If you're
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get started with this chapter then. Can you see
that? I can. Okay, so chat works. We're late
again. It was not my fault this time. It was
G. He didn't set up his stuff right. I was using
Apple stuff. That's the big problem of the day,
of the century. Imagine if he would be using
Linux. How would it be? You know, I meet with
a friend. every two weeks for coffee, and then
he almost got me to install the DHH distribution,
like Omarchi, how do you call this? Omarchi?
I don't know how it's said, yeah. Yeah, because
I have an old MacBook Pro, like Intel, and I
almost installed it, but I haven't, but almost,
but I haven't. Why? Have you tried? Why? I think
because I have like some other stuff that were
like more important. Like I have, I don't know
if you see behind, I have like a drum kit. I
see your underwear in the background there. I
think those are pants. That would be kind of
big underwear. Uh -huh. Like pants. But yeah,
I have a drum kit on the like, I'm kind of like
learning drums. So I was like, yeah, fuck this.
I'm going to hit the snare rather than installing
that thing. Yeah, I got busy with the apps. Maybe
I'm afraid also to like it and then to drop my
OS completely. You think so? Just kidding. I'm
kidding. No, no, no. I still have a big list
of stuff for Canavium. And after, so... Was it
like maybe a month ago, the DevTools Box? Yeah,
the video. Shit, I'm probably pronouncing, oh,
like DevBox Tool, I forgot. DevOps Toolbox. Yep.
DevOps Toolbox, yeah. Oh, man. So after he released
the stuff, there's been a huge wave of subscriptions.
So I can't really give up anymore. You know,
there's been, I used to have like a, about like
almost 200 people and it now it's like 3 35 i
think yeah it was like a big big jump uh in very
in a few days so it was uh i was like wow okay
and how has that been how did that happen by
the way so he he reached out maybe like two or
three weeks before releasing the video. And he
mentioned that there is another YouTube channel.
I forgot and I mixed that channel with another
one because I don't really follow, unfortunately.
And then he told me there's another person who
was looking for Vim for macOS and he had tried
several. uh, options. And then he recommended
to Omen, um, uh, kind of him. And then he sent
me an email to say like, he loved it. And then
like, he's like super useful, like super nice.
And he wants to do a video about it. So, uh,
then he asked if like, I had like some message
or if I could like offer something to, to his
subscribers. And I was like, no, very cheap.
Yeah. No, I'm kidding. But like, it would, it
would, To be honest, it would be kind of complicated
to do. Yeah, so I just told him that we exchanged
several emails and maybe some issues or some
questions he had that he mentioned in the video,
I think. Like some issues he had in Slack or
something, but because he didn't put Slack in
the key mapping family. And yeah, I... So I was
telling him the kind of thing that... I don't
know if you can call this an advantage, but I'm
very reachable. So that's kind of what I told
him. All the people who like your stuff, they
can talk to me directly and then I'll be answering
quite in a timely fashion. I'm always available
if somebody posts an issue on GitHub or something,
at least even if I don't have an answer, I need
to think and digest, I would let people know
like, hey, I'm here, I'll take care of that soon.
And then he released, I kind of forgot about
it. And then because I saw like, I don't, I didn't
know him. And then... one day I woke up and I
see like the, my email is a pile of subscription
and I'm like, what? And then, so I, so I knew
because I think I have about, let's say for the
past, maybe three years. Uh, no. When did I release
like 2022? So there's, there's about. Maybe it
was slower at the beginning, but currently there's
maybe about like five new subscriptions per week.
So it's quite common that I see like, you know,
I wake up and there's like, maybe there's like
two new ones and the one cancellation and stuff
like this. But it was like 20 in one night. So
probably even more because it was like 100 over
like three or four days. So I was like, okay,
something happened. And then I remembered the
video and then I checked and then it was released.
And, uh, that was, that was quite funny. Uh,
so yeah, it was, it was, uh, but you know, it's,
uh, and when I, so like the, the person I, I
meet at coffee, so of course we talked about
this and then he, it's quite funny because, and
like friends that I have here in Macau and that,
so they know what I've been doing for. the last
10 years like doing my own things and stuff they're
like very happy for me but on on for me i i kind
of took this more like how to say like the like
i was telling you the the five subscriptions
i get per week kind of organically usually they
usually they stay but I feel like when it's something
like this, like, so there's a YouTube video,
people hear about it, that they're like curious
and they buy, like you, you don't really know
if this is going to sustain. Okay. It's possible.
It could be possible that half of them or more
than 80 % of them cancel like, like the next
month. So that's very cool. Like from, uh, for
sure to get like someone who likes what you do.
and make like, I don't know if you saw the video
is like quite high quality. Oh yeah. The edits
and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, and
it's really like a very humorous, like it's really
fun. Um, so that was like really, really nice
for sure. Uh, that part, um, that part makes
me very, uh, happy, like content, let's say it,
it makes, it's always, um, it's always good.
Like for sure. When, This is way more important.
Even like the emails I receive, right? Like somebody
who tells me like, man, this is like makes my
use of my quest like so, so fun. Like I love
the thing. That's kind of worth way more than
money. Money is just like so that you can spend
your time working on what is fun. So you'd rather
get your ego bet than getting money, right? Well,
yeah, but the reason is because the money issues
are more or less solved already. You have to
start with the money, right? And again, I'm sure
I mentioned last time, but it's not like I'm
20 anymore. So when you're 20, you have to take
care. You may take jobs that you don't want to
do, that you wouldn't do if you didn't have to,
and all those things. But I'm at an age, so I
like turned 44. You know, I'm at an age that
I'm kind of always been like this, like I want
to spend the least amount of time and energy
doing things that I wouldn't do if I didn't have
to. So, but still I, especially if kind of the
life I had like traveling and ending up in like
places that I had to work to even get the, be
allowed to have the residency i only i only started
to be able to do like okay now it's 100 my time
like 10 years ago so like around 35 so it's uh
but after that yeah once once you get like that
money thing and i'm not a big spender either
um i mean like i have a like motorbike to go
around i have like good tools what i use like
daily i i uh like sponsorship like i sponsor
like the some uh some developers and stuff okay
we have to touch on that because i have a point
here this is the list of topics that we're going
to be covering today can you see my screen or
no i can yeah you can see it okay one of them
is our french folks cheap because i have memberships
And I don't see you listed as a member in my
YouTube channel. Why? What's the excuse? Let
me hear it. We haven't talked about this. When
you send me, there's a couple of... He's cornering
me. He's cornering me live. No, there, you know,
like you sent me the link that there's, um, how
much is yours? Like 10? No, it's like $3, $4.
I think $3. There was something like that. Okay.
Even before you mentioned this, right? Like I,
I sent a one time kind of money after we did,
uh, which we wish you didn't, uh, like it was
just like, wow, I'm happy to, to, for me, like,
you asking me to come on like your youtube channel
was and i'm grateful for it so it's just like
a fun way to say like thank you um which i'm
gonna do again now but today but uh when you
send me the subscription thing it doesn't show
up in in my in your country in macau right exactly
And I wasn't even aware that that was a thing.
Can you believe this? Because Macau is, I don't
know, the market is too small. So like for ages,
we didn't have Netflix. We didn't have PayPal.
We didn't have Amazon. We didn't have all those
stuff. Because even if it's a place that has
money, I guess the market is just a city. It's
a small city. And like you'd send me the link
and I click on the link and it just go on your
YouTube channel. So I was like, what? Yeah, it
could be. So I kind of have to use it. I kind
of have to use a VPN to see the thing. And it's
like, fuck this. But I'd rather send you, I'd
rather send you one time money from time to time.
No, but. Every time I'm on your show. But you
didn't, you didn't answer the question. Are French
cheap? Oh, let me ask Liz. Are French, so the
question is, are French people folks cheap? What
do you think? Yeah. She said, no, French people
are the opposite. You want to talk in the mic?
You want it now? I think she said, I heard yes
in the background. You said you heard yes in
the background. Okay. We can't convince this
guy. I think in Guatemala, I don't know what's
happening with the French community there. But
so did you know, did you know they have a...
YouTube has some like subscription kind of thing,
but in Macau, yeah. So in Macau, you can't, so
there, this is something or so like, uh, in Macau
watching YouTube, we don't have ads. Oh, really?
Yeah. Because we don't have this kind of thing.
So I think it's when I go to China and I use
a VPN, I'm like, what the, and I use a, it goes
through Singapore and I see like some, like three
ads before, like, what the hell is this? And
I have, I have never been aware. Cause like for,
Yeah, we don't have ads, but we don't have like
a... Because he's doing the French thing now.
He's complaining that I'm not subscribing to
his... And that's the excuse. But he has access
to a VPN. Still, he decides not to do it. Okay,
now, here's the list of topics that we're going
to cover today. All right. I don't know if you
can read them or not. Maybe they're too small.
I can, it's very clear. Now, this was brought
to me by someone. But yeah, here's all of them.
The security concerns behind kind of them. These
are questions that I have. But if there's topics
that you want to touch on, just let me know and
we can discuss those as well. But I have them
listed here so people can see what's this all
about. If there's someone watching that doesn't
know who G is, we already did a video the last
time. And there, where is it? Kind of in this
one. Oh, nice. This is the full interview. Two
months ago already. Yeah, it's two hours. So
if there's someone watching it, doesn't know
what we're talking about or who G is, go and
check that out. We talk about a lot of stuff
there. The band, life, and everything. OK, now.
There's an issue that I have that I wanted to
show you. And it happens with the letter K. I'm
not sure what's happening. But let me show you
something. Hold on. Notice that I had to type
kind of in with an uppercase K because I cannot
keep doing this. I cannot type the letter K lowercase.
Look, I'm typing K. You see the K down there,
right? But I cannot type, so I have to... But
this is not related to Kanabim, is it? I'm not
sure. It could be Kanata. Yeah, the thing is
you refuse to use carabiner elements, so that's
your problem. I used carabiner in the past, but
now I'm using Kanata. But the problem is, the
thing is that I use KJ to go out to normal mode,
okay? So in Kanabim, and I think, yeah. kj so
i'm not sure if it's related to that we can talk
about it later but it's something that i noticed
if it doesn't happen to you right uh i'm gonna
try now but uh i'm and like replacing by and
this is only in finder In Finder or in this Forklift
app or in the Finder pop -ups, when you're trying
to save a file in those pop -ups, I cannot type
letter K for the file name. I don't know why.
That's not something we need to take a look at
right now. That's not the purpose of this call.
Okay. Now, just wanted to mention it to you.
I don't know what. Now, this is something else
that I wanted to touch on. What do you think
about the thumbnail? It's a masterpiece. Oh,
I love it. You love it? I, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm
thinking, yeah. And, uh, I saw your, your, the
thing you, the, the, how do you call this? The
YouTube shorts that you did when you were in
the park. It's just hilarious, man. Um, uh, so
I love it. And then you wrote kind of incorrectly,
which, um, I want to applaud you for this. Uh,
but yeah. It's very fun. And I didn't know. So
Liz told me today that this is the, those are
lyrics of a song. I didn't know. So that makes
me realize how cultivated you are, actually,
our culture. Man, that's a pretty famous song.
How come you haven't heard about it? Probably
because it's sung by a woman. So I don't really
listen. I'm just kidding. oh man yeah and what
happened just kidding yeah i don't know bunny
tyler i saw i'm not sure what happened to the
tears they look like something weird there what
happened there man dude i that looks i don't
really want to talk about this yeah okay how
did you do this huh yeah some ai yeah ai stuff
Good, good, good. I hope you didn't spend some
time on Photoshop to do this. No. AI is fine.
That's good. I don't know how to use Photoshop,
you know. But, yep. So someone reached out directly
in Discord and sent me a Discord, no, a Reddit
post, right? I was not aware of this when we
had our last call. And that person was like,
but... Are you okay using kind of like the security
concerns? And there's a Reddit post going on.
Let me show that to you. Oh, yeah. Oh, I haven't
seen that. Oh, you definitely have. Oh, that's
me. Yeah. Yeah, that's me. I'm the... Yeah. Okay.
So this post is from me. Okay, you created it.
Why did they delete it? I don't know. Maybe it's
too old. I posted, so because that was when I
was, oh yeah, maybe you want to, do you want
to say more before I? Yep, yep. I just wanted
to, you know, let people know that this is what's
starting the conversation, right? There's a lot
of comments in that post. And let me just quickly
go through it because there's concerns or questions
that people have about that post. Okay. So this
person asked me, would you use kind of him confidently,
you know? And yeah, I just wanted to discuss
that. There's a few topics here that I want to
touch that I have added in my list of topics
that we're going to discuss today. Open source
and other stuff as well. Security concerns. There's
a lot of stuff here. I'm going to leave it in
the video description so people can go and read
the questions and all that. But we're going to
touch on that right now during the call. Okay.
So the first thing is you're living in Macau.
Like, are you a refugee or something living the
John McAfee life? Read this, read this. I cannot
say it. So, can we trust this guy, our data?
Oh, interesting. No, but that's, did somebody
really, that could, I mean, those people don't
know Macau. And it's like, if you read about
it, it's like the... Las Vegas of Asia, gambling,
prostitution and stuff. So they could, they could,
they would, they could worry. This is, this is
the way that I imagined you. Have you seen the,
the history of John McAfee? I did. Yeah, of course.
This guy, no fucking way. I don't, how, how the
hell this guy looks, still look good at his age
with all the, the cocaine and like. Like he's
half a pint of whiskey at like eight in the morning.
I don't know how this guy looked like this. You
look like him. So is that the life that you're
living? Is that why you went to Macau? What's
happening? It's kind of insecure. That's the
question that I have and that everyone has. Can
we trust our data? Because it's a tool that captures
each one of the keystrokes that you enter, right?
So that's one of the... questions that people
have is there anything you want to share about
that uh yeah can maybe you can share first uh
can you go on the website can we see your screen
or something yeah yeah or let's do it on yours
let's do it in your cities here so just let me
know when you're there and i'll switch to your
screen yes you can now okay there we go yeah
yep So there's, I think, yeah, so let me tell
you. You can click hi there, that little button.
Yeah, okay. So there's, I like to keep things
as, because what I'm interested in is having
fun building my stuff that is useful to me. And
if it's useful to other people, perfect. And
I don't like this, you know, like, so it's one
of the point that I saw in your list. So like
the, the kind of some people feel the app is
not professional because of the weights it's
returned or like the kind of, uh, uh, trial trial
on stuff. It's fun for me. It's not fun for some
people. Uh, and, and, uh, the side is, is like
very simple. I don't want to have like some kind
of business or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. But to be able to, um, Again, because I'm
in Macau, the only payment provider that works
in Macau is Padon. Stripe doesn't care about
Macau. So I had to go through Padon. And Padon,
to accept you as a customer, you have to have
on your site a license agreement and a privacy
policy. I don't think it's mandatory to have
a refund policy. But I added it when... I can
tell you more about that later. But it used to
be that you could only subscribe per month. Because
for me, I wanted to... I like the fact that people
can... It's very clear. Costa Coffee, if you
think that the app is useful, you think yourself,
is it worth one coffee per month to have, you
know, like... to make my life better. If it's
worth, great. If you find a better app later
or you switch to Omar G or whatever, you can
just cancel it and end of the story. But a lot
of people ask, which I was surprised, they were
asking for like a yearly subscription. And the
reason that most of them gave me is for like
accounting reasons. So they subscribe yearly
and they send the thing to their accountant and...
it's over for the year rather than these things
monthly. So I started, when I added the yearly
one, I added a refund policy because I was expecting
that, you know, like people don't ask, it's very
rare that they ask refund for a month, but for
a year, they could use the app for like six months
and then ask for a refund policy. So that's why
there is this. But for the license and the privacy
policy, it is mandatory for Paddle. And if you
check the privacy policy, so of course, those
are my words, so you believe it or not, but basically,
even on the site, nothing is tracked. I really
don't care about the data. So the only thing
that KV does, which is explain, so you have the
short version, right? We don't track anything.
That's for the site. So that's for the license.
But basically, bottom line, we have to trust
you, right? Yeah, but there's a bit more that
I want to say about this. It should be the privacy
policy. Basically, Canavim is going to go online
to check two things. To check if there's an update
for the app. and to check for the subscription
with Paddle. That's all it does. Then after you
can, there's like a lot of tools that are paid
or not paid that you can, like a little snitch,
if you want to pay, it's like a great. Oh yeah,
I have used that one. So it's a very well done
app, but you have like also other free tools
that can check all the, what apps connect to.
Exactly. So you could check through this and
the rest, yeah, it's going to be my word. But
like some people mentioned in that story fair,
they said like, yeah, but what about if your
app, let's say it gets hacked or like you have
a bug in your engine or whatever, and then like
somebody is able to steal the keystrokes. I'm
going to switch to our screen so you can see
both of us. Yeah, yeah. Oops, that could be...
I mean, the event tab is quite... The macOS event
tab is quite straightforward. And then you receive
the key and then you decide if you discard it
or you do something with it and then you tell
macOS, okay, don't take care of that key. It's
quite straightforward. If somebody is able to
hack and like, yeah, I mean, maybe, I don't know.
One of the things that I saw on Reddit there
was, have you thought about hiring a software
auditing company that, I don't know, does the
audit of the app and you can make that public
or something, whatever. Have you thought about
any of that? The problem that people have is
that since it's not open source, we're going
to touch on that in a little while, right? Since
they cannot inspect the code, right? They don't
know if it's safe. And they don't know if there's
something happening in the background. But there's,
I think, security auditing companies that could
audit it, make that public and everyone's calmer
or more confident. Have you ever thought about
that? No. What I did when people came up with
that thing is I thought like, okay, do I release
the event tab part open source so that people
can see what's happening? But the problem is
that people would still want, okay, maybe further
down the line, like you're doing something in
your closed source part. So even the event tab,
it wasn't enough to, so you can see in the, in
the, the Reddit post that you showed, there's
a couple of places where I wrote like on the
way to open source because, yeah, because, uh,
I, it's, it's, it's, it's going to be like a
kind of a, not big story, but maybe bigger than,
um, like, I released kind of in open source for
like a couple of months in answer to that thing.
But I didn't do it in a way that was... Like
I did it in another selfish way, but it was still
like I was gaining from the thing. So in the
sense that I released everything except... the
licensing part so the licensing part would still
be closed source okay so you you cannot you couldn't
see my pedal id and my pedal password that part
was uh was i wouldn't share this but you have
access to all the other source and basically
what i what i had in the readme was like okay
i do not do any open source support so And Canavim
is like split because every pod, I like to separate
things in like their own small packages being
tested and all those things because I want to
make sure that every release I do is not going
to break something from before. So like all pods
are like separated and stuff. So even at that
time, I think Canavim was split into like 10
packages. And then it was... I forgot if, because
when I started posting on Reddit, it was still
like the alpha. So you didn't have, I know at
that time there was already the license. Yeah,
for sure. So, but what happened is, so it was
split in 10 packages and I would release one
update per week. So that means that, or you were
paying for the license and you never had to worry
about anything. or you would like clone the code
and you had to compile it yourself which wouldn't
compile because the license part was missing
so you had to comment some part of the code that
was related to the license and then if you were
doing this yourself Then a few days later, you
have a new release with a new code that you would
have. So it would actually be more work for like,
if you really wanted to save three US a month,
that clearly you would not be my customer. Like
you would be spending a few hours every week
or like a headache to try to make that thing
work. So it was open source so that people would.
uh those who complain like yeah we don't know
what we're doing and like vim is free and open
source you uh already doing this is like very
bad like it's a uh i forgot like what term they
use or something so uh i was like okay then this
is open source you can see the the whole thing
uh but they're so it's going to be painful for
you to compile the thing yourself and use it
for free so you can use the lights and then i
release i would release every week now Now it's
maybe, the average is maybe, I don't know, once
a month because things are like more stable.
And so some of the things take more time. But
at that time it was like once a week, which was
painful for people to catch up with. So it was,
I kind of, I was still trying to get the best
of both worlds, basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I can tell you that from all the people who
complained about the... the thing not being open
source and, and that they couldn't see like what
was happening. I never heard about them. Like,
I think they just move on to a next project to,
to complain about basically. I never, I never
heard the guys telling me like, Oh, Oh yeah,
actually nothing happens. Or I, I'm not even
sure they could read the source basically. I
don't, I don't know. Or maybe they feel good.
Like they could, some other companies could.
could look at the source and tell them it's,
I don't really, I don't. You don't understand.
Yep. I don't understand that type of comments
either. I don't, I don't get it. It's like, if
I see that a product that I want to use is not
open source, I will not go in the repo and ask
them like, why is this not? Okay. If, if it's,
if it does that click with me, I just move on,
man. It's like. I don't like that crap. That's
what I would say. I would move on, but I wouldn't
go and demand for the code. Why? Yeah. So on
this, I think I'm not really smart because I
tend to be very, maybe too understanding. I think
people have the right to ask and I have the right
to refuse or to... ignore but i like and people
who know me in real they know it's like i'm like
very reliable and i i would still tell even if
it's a no or let's say even if i would ignore
people i would tell them that i will i'm going
to ignore them so i would i don't it's like some
kind of quirk that i feel it's the basic respect
is at least people know where to stand so you
you let them know so when i get um yeah and i
i don't know if you see like so recently recently
when when uh when a lot of new subscribers came
also a lot of questions came and those things
so like the the on youtube there were like comments
about this the subscription thing And there's
been GitHub issues about the security thing,
about the subscription thing. And again, I try
to balance between... I have to find a comfortable
balance between answering people but gaining
something from this, which is for me, I find
it very useful to... explain again from time
to time because it like clarifies my thoughts.
And then sometimes I would, I would even like,
it would make me aware of, oh, I had that belief
before. So that's why I did that. But now something
changed. So maybe I can't. So I always find this
useful. So again, I'm trying to gain something
from this, right? People write this and I'm going
to spend an afternoon thinking about this, having
my coffee and then writing a big answer. And
that answer, it comes from me thinking and clarifying
and maybe confirming my own values and beliefs
or like changing. And then I write something
and then the whole thing is good. I answered
people and I clarify myself and I thought about
it and it's perfect. Then after it's like when
they start pushing again that then I'm okay to
ignore. But the first time I kind of have these...
Politeness to answer, right? I don't know. It's
like kind of a need to... Because again, I think
like people, even if they... Yeah, even if it's...
Even like people who make a comment, like I would
never buy your app. I think it's... They have
the right to... It's, you know, it's okay. Especially...
I want to say, maybe it doesn't make sense, but
it's online. It's not like you're outside reading
a book and somebody comes to bother you while
it's... I can read the thing when I want. So
I think it's kind of okay. And did you release
the open source stuff? Did you release it as
open source due to pressure on that Reddit post
or what happened there? Did you feel bad? Did
that Reddit post make you feel... No, so like
I was saying, it wasn't that I felt bad. It's
like I was still trying to find a way. But let
me think. Did you ever wonder, maybe they're
right and I'm wrong. And this should be open
source. No. On that thing of Veeam is open source,
so you're making money out of all those stuff
is completely bullshit. That makes zero sense.
So like I said a bit before, when people mention
like, oh, we don't know what you're doing and
we have to believe your words. Okay, you can
use tools to check, right? They say, yeah, but
what about if somebody... using assembly, like
a de -assembler, I don't even know how you call
it. And like they can do, and I'm like, oh yeah,
I don't know, maybe. So maybe they do have some
points like, you know, or even if I'm like not
malicious and anything, but yeah, again, somebody's
hacking. So it's not like, I would think like,
okay, that's fair. Which is, so like when you
were asking me if to make it open source, it
wasn't like due to pressure. And again, I wouldn't
release it open source if I didn't have this
kind of leverage of, it's going to be open source,
but for you to compile it, it's going to be a
pain. And we can talk about this later, but that's
why I closed it again because people were abusing.
The first line of the readme was, I do not do
open source support. If you don't know how to
compile it, get a license. And I get flooded
by messages of people. And I'll tell you more
later. So that's why I went back to closed source.
But one thing that bothered me with the Reddit
post, and you showed one, but there were several,
because it was when I was developing it for myself.
After two years, I realized, oh, okay, I can
do what I want to do for myself. And, oh, this
is actually better than what I thought. So maybe
some people would be interested. And then I started
posting in the Vim Reddit and the Mac apps and
maybe macOS and maybe Sublime Text. If you like
no vintages in Sublime, maybe you're going to
blah, blah, blah. And at that time, it was still
the alpha. So the alphas were... You could just
use that. Like if you downloaded an alpha from
three years ago, you can still use it now. Like
there was no license, nothing. It would just,
you wouldn't have new moves and new stuff like
this. But what I did not like with the Reddit
thing for sure is like some unfairness. Like
some people would say like, yeah, they're. This
app, there's this other app that is much better
and it's a one -time purchase or something. And
the thing is that it's not better, it's different.
Or like some people would say like, I saw like
recently they would say like, why the hell would
you pay for something like this? There's like
SketchEVM that is open source and free. Yeah,
but SketchEVM only works in text inputs. that
are accessible. Panavim is like a layer that
removes, like whether it's accessible, it's not
accessible, whether you're in your email, those
are like very different tools. So when those
comments happen, I just feel like this is a little
bit unfair because it feels like the person who's
writing, they haven't tried them. So it's just
like, it's a little bit like the people who complain
about the open source. or like not being open
source and then they just move on to a next post
where they complain about something else so that
that part i find because i think i'm quite okay
with uh if the criticism is valid and and sometimes
it's totally okay to be like yeah sorry i'm i'm
not going to i had the case i have the case quite
often with wushi which is the the app where you
go click anywhere people ask me for the label
mode so i don't like the home row thing oh yeah
yep because because who she is like you type
where you want to go so you want to go to the
close but there is no label and people ask me
for the label and i'm like yeah sorry like use
home row i'm not going to to build the label
uh i'm not interested in this i'm not interested
in uh for myself so i'm not so um Yeah, I was
saying this because I think if it's valid criticism,
I'm okay with this and I'm okay to say like,
yeah, no, it's going to be my time and my energy
and I'm really not good at working on stuff I
don't want to work on. The apps are not a business.
They're like what we talked about last. For me,
there's like when I was doing music, well, now
it's just I'm doing software or when I write
some... Short story. Well, to me, it's like a
self -expression. That's why all the vulgarity
and all this stuff. I don't want to have a job.
What's the point? What's the point of doing my
own thing if I cannot do my own thing? There's
no point. If it's to get a few more customers,
but then you're a slave to your customers. What's
the point? Yeah, makes sense. That's one of the
points. it's not professional, it insults you,
it's vulgar, and it's not Karen -friendly. This
is really good. It's not Karen -friendly. Yeah,
so what's up with that? I think, yeah, I can't...
I was thinking about this before doing the recall,
like last week or something. I was wondering,
because one guy on GitHub wrote, yeah, like something.
perverted like this perverted app and stuff and
i was like what and so because the thing is when
um i think you have to see or can i show my screen
yep let me know when you're ready and i'll switch
to it okay yeah it's because um there's a some
kind of playing with uh it's it's again it's
like very personal uh i'm sure almost nobody
noticed this and uh But so I started with kind
of him, right? And then you can see like, so
the icon is supposed to represent like the quote
character, right? But it looks like, so it kind
of looks like a cartoonish kind of, you know,
like some sort of personification or something.
And then when I started, building Wuxia I'm gonna
make this kind of like a family so it ended up
like it looks like a little face right right
right so and even you can see the if you check
the the twitter the way it's kind of described
it ended up like kind of him is like kind of
the big is the big brother And Mushi and Scrolla,
they're like the little twins. And even the icons,
okay, slow here. But like even the icons, you
can see like, kind of him is like stern. He's
more like the big, cold, it's black. It's kind
of like, it's the big, cold brother. And Mushi
and Scrolla, they're like kind of the funny,
funny, not funny, but like how, yeah, funny.
Or they're the cute little, twins, brother and
sisters, right? So like, this is the strict complex.
And so Wushi, Scrawler is free, but Wushi, there's
the same system as, not the same system, but
these are so like one coffee a month. And Wushi
is going to beg you like nicely, like, oh, I'm
so tired. Like I need a coffee and stuff. But
kind of him, he's kind of insulting you from,
he's like the stern, stern big brother. And it
doesn't work from 5 a .m. to 1 p .m. And when
you try to use vMotion during that time, it insults
you from the menu bar. But it's not even, to
be honest, it's not really, when I checked again,
it's not really insulting. It's just like saying
like, oh, you barbarian. This is like... It's
not even MF. It doesn't even include MF. No,
it doesn't. It's just baby insults. yeah it's
still like very uh crime against humanity and
the only thing that that i saw after that i kind
of forget is like yeah when you go to the license
thing it's like uh there is something like oh
if you want to abuse kind of him 24 7 buy a coffee
and then the button is like oh yeah i want to
abuse kind of him so bad or like something Which
I actually at the time I found funny. Now maybe
I should update it. But it's just like some people
think it's like perverted. Okay, sure. But to
me at the time it made me laugh. Now maybe I
should change it, but not because of their comments.
Just I should make it a thing more. It's in the
list of... Wait, let me see if I can add new
insults. I kind of want to make... to replace
it and replace the insults and make them more
hardcore, actually. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I think,
I think the insults are like too soft currently.
And then, uh, yeah, I want to abuse kind of him
so bad. It's, it, it, there's a mismatch between
the insult and this. So I think I need to review.
That's going to be part of the marketing revamp
or something. Uh, um, yeah. So yeah, some, some,
so what what was the comment like pervert pervert
it perverted app or stuff like that uh let me
i think i'm sure that there was uh well i think
something with um well maybe still in the open
there was something uh is this one i'm pretty
sure there was uh i'm sorry for like yeah let
me switch there yeah yeah I want to abuse what's
repressive, this perverse messaging and bizarre
trial constraint leaves me unable to take this
software seriously. So, yeah. Yeah, let's switch
back to your screen. It's tough, man. I switch
back to where both of us are. Yeah. People get
offended by everything. I don't know, man. But
again, like, if you share, for example, can you
share my screen? Yep. I'm going to hide the guy.
But for example, so the, again, like, somebody
says this, I, and like, for example, this thing
of, that I was showing you, like, the add new
insults, that comes from a, comment from YouTube,
somebody saying something about the trial, how
it was like shit and stuff. And I was like, oh,
and they would also never buy the app. And I
was like, it just made me think of adding new,
like updating the insults. So like, oh, thank
you. Like, I'm kind of trying to joke with this,
but I'm also going to use this. But for example,
that person was complaining about like that is
perverted and stuff. So, okay, I send them to
the alternatives and then tell, yeah, this, you
know, if that doesn't solve your problem, sure.
But they're also complaining about other things,
which I'm trying to, I'm asking, like trying
to solve their, like to genuinely answering their,
their issue. And they just never answer. So this
is a little bit, at least I'm not answer the
thing like, and we can solve some problems or
so. Yeah. That part is a little bit, it's, that
bothers me more. Like the fact that they find
this like dumb and that's totally fine. But like
that they ask, it's like, yeah, this thing is
not even centered on my screen. Like, are you
hiding the money bar? Maybe that's the never
answer. So yeah, that part I'm a bit. Yeah. And
the real question is. So you want people like
that as users, right? So I guess it's a good
filter, you know, the insults and all that. If
people agree with that, it's users that you want
to have, you know. But I don't know. I guess
it works like that. Yeah, again, it's like you
need to find your own balance. And I think, to
be honest, I think on that part, I'm like quite
good. I'm having fun with the whole thing. But
at the same time, my threshold is very low. Even
like this, my time is 95 % spent on me fully
choosing what I want to do, when I want to do
it. But the 5 % missing, they're still bothering
me, which is a little bit... So that threshold
is... Yeah, kind of low. But I'm still... So
on the one hand, I think I'm still good at finding
the good thing. Like I was telling you, when
people tell me, why is that a subscription like
they did after the dev... Yeah, that's a topic
that I want to cover. That's a big problem that
people have, right? The subscription thing, yeah.
But then like I can, I answered this last year
and like two years ago and oh, this is a good
opportunity to explain again and make myself
clear plus to other people plus to myself. What's
the answer to that? Why is it subscription -based?
So you can refer them to this video. Yeah, I
mean, there's... The answer I gave, it's not
really... I can show you and we can go through
the points because there is no rational... I
could tell you like... Guys, let me answer on
my side first. Why do I have YouTube subscriptions?
Because I have to eat and I don't care what people
think. If you want to get it and support me,
it's great. If not, just move on, go to another
channel, whatever you want, right? So I have
the right to charge for something if I want,
right? A product. This is somewhat a product,
the channel as well and all that stuff. Why not?
That's my answer. It's free market. Yeah. It's
like, I could understand. I guess I could understand,
but I guess people didn't know. New people don't
know this. And I've mentioned this. I'm just
thinking about it now. I've mentioned this in
the GitHub issue about this, which I told people
from the start, this is going to cost one coffee.
Like the price is not going to go up. So I guess.
Some people might be afraid that they get it
and then they get used to it. And then one day
the price goes triple and then they're like,
oh, fuck, you know, I didn't. But from the start,
I told people because, again, if you want to
talk rationally and some people on the YouTube
comment on the DevOps, they mention, and I think
on the GitHub, something like, they want to see
how much I work. to like, why should I pay you
months? How much work do you do? Like, what do
you care? It makes up like, um, um, are you my,
are you my boss? Like this makes absolutely no
sense. Right. So, so you can't because, and that
person wanted to, he wanted to pay one time.
And I, and I told him like, even, and there's
some other people say they want to pay 100 us
or something like there is no one time price.
that will cover the amount of work and time and
energy that I put into this already. I'm not
even talking in the future because, and I don't
want to use this as a point to tell people, yeah,
you should pay me one coffee per month because
I have like, technically my apps are like abusing
the macOS accessibility. I always have to like,
there's always new stuff to check. There's always
new apps. Like the next release is going to add
support for like 10 new apps. And then there's
those shit electron apps that use premium engine
that keeps breaking. And there's always like,
it's been my day to day work for the past five
years. And in, and to make sure that you who
pays one coffee per month, You don't have to
think about it. You use it, it works, and there's
an update, and it takes care of new apps. And
upon breaking some AX APIs and stuff, my job
is to take care of this so that you, paying one
coffee a month, you have a smooth experience.
If I tell someone this, even if I convince them
to, oh yeah, okay, I'm going to, they're already
the wrong customer. Yep. They don't get it. It's
not going to. They're not the right customer.
And like convincing for like three US a month,
the thing that should, that you should like,
I think hopefully if, if people have, they value
their time and energy and pleasure. If you use
macOS and you, you're used to your Vim moves
and you use the app and you find like, oh shit,
this is fun. Like that makes my day -to -day
use of macOS better. Is it worth like three US
a month? Fuck yeah, that's it. And probably that's
what happens with a lot of, and I think we talked
a bit about this like last time, but so currently
there's like 300 something people, right? And
I hear about a few of them once a year to tell
me like that they love the thing. They just don't
want this to disappear. But usually, satisfied
customers, you don't hear about them. Yeah, unhappy
ones. The 10 people who are never going to buy
your products, they're the ones who are going
to voice, voice, voice, voice their thing. And
yeah, free market. I think I'm quite still in
the readme of... Kind of Vim or Wish or Scrawlr,
you have a list of alternatives. You can go...
You put a list there, but it's just a fake list,
right? Is there anything similar to Kind of Vim?
Like if I go to DaVinci Resolve and I want to
use Vim Motions there, is there something out
there that really does? No. There's options for
the browser and stuff like that, right? Yeah,
but the ones I don't link, I don't have links
to the browser ones. I have links more like to
Carabiner Elements. If you just want like JK
and stuff for your list and stuff, you can build
a few of them yourselves. You can, yeah. Also,
like we talked about this last time, I think,
but I... There's a reason why there's no competitors.
This is a very bad business. This is not business.
It's a crazy thing to get into. It's a very crazy
thing to get into. And the amount of work, again,
because the AX APIs are not done for that, so
it's really me, and especially the amount of
data that you need to have to... be able to make
a move like i i was lucky somehow i just that
was my it was during covid or so i was like stuck
in my i needed to find something to to do and
then okay i went into it and then i after only
like two years like like wow wait oh wait we
have this data and that data and this thing and
that thing and i wrap this and blah blah and
wow we can we can do this so it's just not pure
luck but but there's a part that uh yeah if you
think about like oh i'm like making money forget
you you don't jump into this yeah just if you
think about mac os it's a limited audience then
if you think about vim it's even more limited
now combine those two yeah mac os and vim yeah
it's a pretty small niche community so there's
no one -time payment then well you do have like
a yearly payment correct yeah okay yeah but it's
gonna be yeah like if you if you stop paying
then it goes back to insulting you in the mornings
yeah so it's still five to one i think it's five
to one pm That was when I was sleeping. But it's
the exact same thing. It's the exact same thing
that if you go to Netflix and complain that why
is Netflix not free, right? Like, man, if you
want to use Netflix, pay for it. If you don't,
just move on and go and use something else. But
it's free market, right? It's free market. So
exactly like you. And when I tell this to people,
I don't mean it in a mean way. I'm not holding
a patent. You can really research and you can
do what I did. You can build it. If you don't
want to pay, just build it. Or use something.
So that was the issue when I was telling you
when I switched back to closed source. Because
I was like, okay. no open source support. Plus
the fact that how I approach, like I was telling
you this thing of, I think people have the, so
people have the right to ask and I have the right
to ignore, but I kind of feel guilty if I, so
it's my own problem, but okay, still. So I would
get requests from people telling me, yeah, I
cannot, I can't make it work. Like they got the
source, they cannot make it work. So I would
just copy paste, you know, the link and I would
say like, I don't do any open source support.
So you can buy a license. Oh yeah, but like,
you know, I don't want to. Okay, so here's the
list of alternatives. Oh yeah, but Canavim works
better. So only after this, I'll be like, okay,
man, like then basically you just want the thing
without paying and without doing the effort.
You just want everything. You don't care about
open source. You care about it being free. And
you don't want to do the effort and stuff. So
I'm sorry, like, okay, then I'm okay ignoring
after this. But it's like hundreds of things,
like things keep repeating. So I close the source
and then I know it's, but I have to take care
of myself, right? So I close the source and after
this, I'm totally okay to ignore the messages.
Man, your internet is shit. Your camera looks
like shit sometimes. But there's nothing you
can do about it. It's fine. Maybe it's just my
face. We have a typhoon here. I don't know if
it's... Maybe it's breaking some cable somewhere.
Okay, now, regarding the question to inspect
the software auditing company, have you ever
thought about that or no? I know it's more money,
it's more work, it's a lot of stuff that would
be getting involved. So, have you thought about
that? I've seen that for, like, online software,
but no, I haven't thought about this for, like,
Mac apps. No. I don't know why. Maybe I thought,
like, because online you can, like, test endpoints.
And, and in the binary app, it's a little bit,
uh, it's different, but like, yeah, I guess,
um, I guess that could be something. Okay. Something
to think about. Yep. I don't care. I just wanted
to cover my basis, you know, cause there's people
that want to ask about that, you know, so, uh,
I don't know if I trust you. I don't know if
I trust you or not, but what choice do I have?
Right? I'm French, you should know. French, cheap.
We're cheap bastards. Now, we covered the questions
that I had here. Is there anything else you want
to discuss? So we've been through your list already?
Yep. Wow. I don't know. I was talking and then
it goes in several directions. I've mentioned
the closed source stuff. Was there something
else? Yeah, the subscription, closed source.
Yeah, the subscription. Let me check. So somebody
asked on the... Oh, we could talk a little bit
about the... the last release of kind of him
i did the integration of carabiner and it seems
to be working pretty well yeah yeah somebody
was asking for the one oh no always that's an
somebody else asking again why subscription model
it's like when i was what i was writing yeah
i can i can tell you a summary because I started
telling that person to understand that this is
not logical. I can explain why that came with
like $3 .28. The $3 .28 price. What about the
brew installation? Why so serious is saying there?
What do you mean the brew installation? Why so
serious? That we didn't have a command to install
and brew? Because if you went to the documentation
like a couple months ago, there was no brew installation
command. Like you didn't know if the root package
was the real one or if you were installing like
a Trojan or something, you had no idea. But that
was implemented recently, thanks to me, right?
Yeah. Why did you add it? The docs got a little
bit better. Why did I add it? Yep. Because that
made sense. I didn't... Yeah, like if... I mean,
there's a bunch, like the docs, it's part of
the... There's this thing that I have in my list,
which is like, okay, I need to focus on like
the marketing, right? Which is like, I should
redo the side, the videos are like a bit old,
like the character windows is like huge, which
is not the case anymore. Like I should redo...
But the, so the docs are so part of, not really
marketing, but it's, the docs can, could definitely
be better. But I kind of always postpone, I'm
more like excited about working on the backend
of kind of Veeam. And when you mentioned, I think
at first you wasn't even in Homebrew and then
somebody mentioned like, yeah, developers, come
on, they install like even apps through Homebrew.
So it's like, oh yeah, okay. So I did. But it
was like, okay, people, they may try or the,
you know, if they use homebrew, great. If they
don't, it's fine. But you're, I think you're
the first one who told me like, hey, what about
if somebody is kind of impersonating? How do
people know it's their real? And I just never
really thought about this. So when you mentioned
this, I was like, oh, yeah, okay. That makes
sense too. To make it clear. So even I make it
clear. I think there's your name, no? Yeah. And
there's a link to your... Are you making money
from... From you? Yeah, exactly. This page has
been requested by Link Arzu. And then it links
to your YouTube. Because he's a baby. Oh my God,
this is so fun. I should be making money out
of this. You know what? You should give me a
dollar per subscription. at home yeah wow i'm
already giving one dollar to paddle they're like
they're heavy on uh okay maybe not 75 cents i
think now let me show you this let me show you
this something that i just that i just discovered
right now notice that the the k works now okay
okay i can type the k and it works but look at
what happens when i do this settings uh here
because i said it enter normal mode to escape
okay jay yeah could it be related to the to this
let's see and i set it to 120 and uh let's see
i mean i never got the nope oh I think there's
something else taking over. So I don't know.
Oh, I have to press it twice. I have to press
it twice. Let me see. So I think something is...
You have another app. Yeah, Canada. That is capturing
everything. That is taking care of the first
key or something. I will check for sure, but
I never had the command. And there's automated
tests for this. And it's working. Oh, but I can
type it twice. I don't care. Because, let me
show you something. All of the videos that I
have been recording, they have an uppercase K
everywhere. If I need to add a K, because I cannot
type a freaking lowercase K. But if I need to
type a double, that's fine. But I'm pretty sure
it's related to Canada. Yeah. It's weird. Canada,
kind of, there is something going on in there.
But didn't you mention that Canata is using Carabiner
in the background? Canata is using the Carabiner
driver in the background. So it's not using Carabiner's
complex modification things. No, just the driver.
It's using its own... Okay. I don't know. I will
check. Okay. Now... chat the only person that
is in chat is why so serious any questions that
chat has or any other topics that you want to
talk about g uh well let me write this uh any
other topic um uh i don't have anything in mind
now oh maybe yeah just a little bit like uh there's
there's a there's a guy so i've released the
integration with carabiner okay right for like
for like scroller and scroller first and then
because there were some keys hot coded for some
for a guy so it was a good time to remove them
and like go through carabiner so like And then
I release, I like to release new stuff through
Scrawl at first because I think it's like less
used maybe and it's like free. So if I fuck up
something, I'm like, yeah, it's free app. So
you can't expect too much, right? So, but like
Scrawl and then after I release in Wuxi and then
in Canavium. And yes, some people are like linking,
like. But what is it for? Can you explain that
integration, the Carabiner Elements integration?
What is it for? So it's going to be to remap.
keys like so some uh there's some examples in
the because i show it uh i don't let me or just
i don't understand the concept just let me know
because if i needed to create mappings i did
it in carabiner because i used carabiner for
a long time like a year maybe and i had a lot
of crazy complex stuff there but is it like an
interface to create mappings So what Anavim does
is exposing variables to Karabiner. So in Karabiner,
you can now say, okay, if I'm in visual mode
on Safari, when I press Q, open a new tab. So
you can basically remap. So there were kind of
two issues that I had in the past. with kind
of him because when i started like keyboards
are like quite hard to deal with like there's
like hardware key codes virtual key codes there's
like nc keyboards easel keyboard it's kind of
a messy thing and um and when i started like
dealing with this i was okay you know what i'm
just going to focus on what i use which is like
us keyboard And then I got like some people saying,
oh, on the French keyboard, there's some keys
that don't work because when you press a combination
of like shift and something, it's some American,
you're going to use shift. French, you're not
going to use shift. It's very messy. So I focused
on American. And then maybe finally a few months
ago, I expanded this to every kind of keyboard
layout, but there was still... So that part was
solved, but there was still an issue where people
would be like, yeah, I want to remap, you know,
like Vim remapping, like rather than, I don't
know, like, I don't even know because I don't
like custom things. I use the basic, but maybe
rather than CIW, they want to press one key that
does this instead. So now you can do this through
Carabiner. Canavim exposes those variables and
then you tell in your complex modification, you
can say, okay, when I'm in normal mode, so if
you don't care about all the carabiner options
first, you just focus on Canavim, you could say
like, okay, when I'm in normal mode and I press
Q, it does C -I -W or something. Yeah, it does
C -I -W, for example, yeah. But when I'm in visual
mode and I press Q, it does like something else.
So you can create different mapping according
to kind of in this mode. But then because Carabiner
comes with its own whole set of like options
and stuff, you can basically do a lot or you
can say like, yeah, only when I'm in normal mode
on Safari, then you map that key or those keys
to like this thing, and then you can basically
do whatever you want. This is like pretty cool.
And some guy, because there's this new pod, which
is the integration with Carabiner, but there
is also a JSON file where I would, it's been
there for like maybe two years or so, like where
I expose the, currently I only expose the current
Vim mode. So you can watch this with Hammerspoon
and then you can send to like whatever you want.
So this guy, he's posting quite a lot on GitHub
currently. He's been like connecting Canavim
with Sketchy Bar. So like his bar changes according
to Canavim's mode. And then he's using like MimeStream.
the email client and he's going all around his
boxes and everything all through keyboard remapping
like kind of him carabiner remapping so like
he's uh yeah so it's like if you uh if he's and
and because he's using hammerspoon to check or
so like the the accessibility role of the thing
so he's been doing like uh okay if he's on the
list And he pressed this key in normal mode.
Then he's changing email box. But if he's inside
the text, the composer, then the guy is just
like having fun kind of controlling his old email
client. And even I was like, wow, for this, I
would use, I build Wuxi for this to go on UI
elements. But he's remapping the whole thing
through. through kind of him and carabiner just
to do everything through him, uh, moves. So that's,
that's, yeah, it's pretty cool. Okay. So that
integration was quite a, and finally it's, uh,
it, it took like, I've been asked about this
for, uh, maybe since the beginning. And, uh,
I started developing my own, remapping in scroller
first. And it took me six months of work. I was
pulling my hair. It was like a fucking nightmare.
And then at the end, I, somebody mentioned like
the variables in, in carabiner and what, and
then the integration with carabiner to it's a
few weeks. This is like just crazy. And even
like few weeks is because I, because I, want
to have like automated tests to make sure that
everything works properly. But the code itself
was like a couple of lines. It was like, why
it took me so long to, to just understand that
that was right there. Crazy. Oh yeah. Carabiner
is really complex, man. A really complex tool.
Yeah, but it's, yeah, it's me. I mean, like,
yeah, I didn't know enough. And the integration
is very easy. It's actually quite simple because
I have the, the, CLI that you just call with
some variables, some JSON syntax thing. Because
I don't use it for my... I don't custom things
for myself. I didn't have the need. And I thought
it would be way more complicated than this, but
no. And it's very cool to... And I've been donating
to the Carabiner. I've been donating to Hammerspoon
and Carabiner for Some years, I think, already.
And that's very cool for me to push this to that.
It's a great tool, well done, tested, used by
a lot of people. If I had to, and it's providing
so much stuff, you can remap according to your
input layout, the language, the physical. brand
of your keyboard like it's just crazy the amount
of work that i would have to do to reach that
thing it's just another tool yeah it's just another
tool completely so that was very cool to be able
to integrate with this and it's opening yeah
i'm quite um it's it's interesting because i'm
i'm excited and happy but also a little bit uh
it's not really fearful but because When somebody
asks something about Canavium, I can answer right
away because I know the whole thing. But now
that if somebody asking something that is related
to carabiner, I feel like, wow, sometimes, you
know, that feeling where you can't even say like,
you can't even tell people. That's not possible.
Like you don't know. Because you don't know enough.
And that part is a little bit scary. yeah yeah
this is getting out of my control so it's a little
bit uh but then i i see people like doing their
stuff and like sharing and telling me like oh
this i'm able to do that this is crazy it's so
fun so like wow okay cool yeah i didn't know
this is getting getting out of my hands yeah
yeah which is like it's it's cool and scary at
the same time all right interesting yeah all
righty i have to drop thanks for all right being
here is there any final thing that you want to
you want to say uh i didn't think about anything
but like if uh same thing i'm like if you know
people uh it's always a pleasure to catch up
with you second time i hope there's going to
be more time yeah we can just just chat like
this you know yeah it's very cool yeah how long
it's been it's been two hours already almost
yeah yeah you don't feel the time when you're
with me right no not at all but uh yeah i mean
same thing like you know like uh i remember you
asking me last time if i was planning to sell
the apps and you know and this is still not part
of the the plans i'm planning to build this for
as long as i can It's getting harder. Like this
part is kind of true. It's getting hard. Like
I've released an update for Bushy some days ago
and it took me like weeks to cause the Apple
changed like the money bar system and they're
even giving less information. Try. I don't know
if they're like just trying to. privacy thing
again to just keep data because they use that
data just for themselves, but they don't allow
third -party developers to have it. So I find
it's getting harder and harder to deal with.
So I don't know if they do it on purpose or it's
just like the new developers that develop macOS
and iOS. It feels like the new release, they
want to make it look cool, but... There's a lot
of broken things. So luckily, I've been able
to go around that thing. So I hope it's going
to last for some time. But yeah, the plan is
still to, you know, I'm currently using the Mac.
I want to keep this going. I keep the apps updated.
There's going to be a new release. kind of him
soon with like maybe 10 10 12 new apps supported
it's gonna be plugins later but i need to think
about um yeah that's gonna be the big next thing
uh yeah people can reach out always i'm glad
to you know talk uh and that's my main thing
so like yeah it's not like i'm i have a job that
i know if people answer i'll or they write something
i'll most probably within the same day i'll i'll
respond get in touch yeah okay his thing is very
cool to be close to your users you know yeah
yeah all right stay small and be close thank
you no it was pleasure always really appreciate
it and uh welcome The final thing that I want
to do is thank the CEOs because I have memberships.
Well, you know, but you decide not to get it.
But I have a CEO, web23 .com. I always leave
the credits here in the video, right? So you
will see them. I'm a pro, man. So yeah, just
wanted to do that. And thank you for your time.
Really appreciate it. Hope we meet soon again,
man. Yeah, yeah, sure. Thank you. Have a nice
day, man. You too. Bye.