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what's the purpose of the um arch linux high

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striped rust dev sucks like do they help do they

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help with with circulation is there a purpose

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to them or okay there's there's there's a long

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there's a long bit of lore to that um uh using

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rust and using arch like eventually using it

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will turn you trans and that's like kind of where

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the socks come in now because people spend a

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lot of time sitting down they don't do a lot

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of physical activity. They're not good for your

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circulation. No. Especially not for my legs.

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Neary is a bit different to a regular Tyler.

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So this is actually a scrolling window manager

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where I can make another window here and basically

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I have infinite horizontal space so I can say

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if I want to put this one here I have all three

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of these windows here I can spawn another one

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off to the side. And what are your thoughts on

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currently the state of Let's start with Windows.

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Are you a Windows fan still? What are your thoughts?

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If you're listening to this as a podcast, remember

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that it was originally recorded as a video. If

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you're not following along, you can go to my

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YouTube channel. My username is Linkarzu. And

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if you want to support me to keep this podcast

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going, you can donate in Ko -fi. I'm going to

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leave a link in the description. All right. So

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let's get started with this chapter then. What

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are we doing today? We have a special guest,

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Brody. How's it going, man? Yeah, not too bad,

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not too bad. How about yourself? I'm doing good

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as well. You know, I really appreciate you being

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here. It's kind of late where you are, right?

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It's only 9 .40pm here. The funny thing is I

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actually was doing someone else's show earlier

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today. No one ever invites me to anything, and

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today I'm doing two people's shows, so it's a

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nice change for me. Nice. Really appreciate it,

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man. It's tiring doing all these videos, right?

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And, well, who are you? I know who you are, but

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just in case there's people that don't know,

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you mind sharing a little bit about you? Like,

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what do you do? I... My main thing is making

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Linux videos. I do that. It's Linux and a lot

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of general tech stuff as well. Sometimes I'll

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talk about, you know, programming. I'll talk

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about other random things. But for the most part,

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it's Linux stuff on the main channel. And I also

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do my own podcast, Tech of a T, where I've done,

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I think it's 273? or something like that, somewhere

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in that range. Just bringing on random people,

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learning about open source developers, learning

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what people are doing in this world and just,

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you know, meeting people and learning a bit.

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And I was curious, is there a reason why you

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kept those separate? Because this is your name,

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right? So you could have kept them here. Is there

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a reason why you kept the podcast in a different

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channel? uh the main reason for that is youtube

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i don't know if they still do it but i know youtube

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for a while did sort of punish the promotion

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of videos if you uploaded multiple things in

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a day so if i wanted to do the podcast and then

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clips for it maybe i could have a separate clip

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channel but if i just have the podcast itself

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it's not really going to get recommended when

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the other video gets like uh uploaded so it kind

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of like it kind of throws everything off. It

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makes a lot more sense to have them separated

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so they don't interfere with each other. I have

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thought about that too, because I'm doing these

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interviews and everything is mixed in my channel.

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I have a playlist and I created a podcast there,

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you know, but I don't know how it works. I haven't

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done clips on my own, you know, these long videos.

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So what happens if I create a clip and I share

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it in the same channel? Will I have some sort

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of trouble? look youtube's kind of a black box

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and i can't really say exactly how it's gonna

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behave but that's my general understanding that

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if you do upload multiple things in a day things

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can kind of get a bit weird with actually sending

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videos out to your audience so i i think it makes

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more sense to separate it but i know some people

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do it all together on one thing anyway so I guess

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try it out, see what happens, and if it goes

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well, stick with it. If it doesn't, you can always

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change it afterwards. Yeah, yeah. I see you have

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103 ,000 subscribers in the main channel. Why

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did you get started with YouTube? Why did that

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happen? Why did you decide to take that step?

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Well, this isn't my first channel. I think if

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you go to the About section, it should show you

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the age of this channel. I want to say it's like

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20... Because I've had it before. Yeah, 2013.

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I've had it before I was actually making videos

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on the channel. I uploaded like random things

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here and there. Like, you know, oh, I saw some

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funny looking bird upload a video. All of that

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stuff's gone now. But I've had a channel basically

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since, I want to say like 2007. I've been making

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videos here and there, random things. Back then,

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it was a lot of like gaming videos. I did. Some

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runescape videos, things like that. I took my

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hand at doing some art stuff at one point. You're

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not going to find that on that channel. I'm saving

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the name of that channel for a special occasion,

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because there are still videos on the old one.

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But yeah, I've sort of always enjoyed doing that.

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I was never really the kind of person who really

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talked much when I was at school. I'm not really

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the kind of person who likes to, you know...

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I guess be that like center of attention generally

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in real life but for whatever reason I kind of

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enjoy the idea of digging through these topics

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and then I guess putting them together in a easily

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consumable form and that's kind of what the main

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channel is it's a lot of the time taking some

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you know really long mailing list thread or something

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like that and then breaking it down so people

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kind of know what's sort of going on without

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having to go and do all that digging themselves

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And I see that on your main channel, you have

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moved away to something more like a news type

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of thing. Is that right? Like, did you ever do

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tutorials, like tech tutorials? Early on, I definitely

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did a lot more of that, and I kind of want to

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shift more back in that direction. I do like

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doing the news stuff, but I also just like to

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dig into... It's less tutorial stuff, more digging

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into various... I've done videos on different

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shells, on different window managers, on things

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like NeoVim. I like to dig into stuff like that

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rather than doing your general, this is how you

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install Linux kind of tutorial. If I'm going

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to do that, it's going to be for something very

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specific, like doing something on the Arch Linux

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install script. I have tried my hand at more

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general tutorials as well, but... I don't know,

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I feel like there's people who can handle that

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stuff better. I find the deep diving into a specific

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topic a lot more interesting, and I feel like

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I can handle that a lot better than just, you

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know, there's like hundreds of tutorials on how

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to use the terminal, right? I don't really think

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I have anything to add to that. Okay, interesting.

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Do you do YouTube full time or do you do something

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else? So right now I basically can do it full

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time. I'm not at this stage. I still have another

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job. I work there a few hours a week. The main

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reason I haven't is I always feel like at some

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point something's going to just collapse. And

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I'm always worried that like, you know, I wake

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up one day. the mca strikes channels disappeared

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and now i have nothing so i just i haven't gotten

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to that point where i just feel comfortable taking

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that next step and actually doing it full time

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but effectively i am right like the amount of

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hours i'm putting into it it's pretty much full

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time it's just technically i have another job

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okay okay and would you recommend someone trying

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to start a channel do it How do you say the process

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has been? Is YouTube easy? Look, it's, look,

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working on oil rig is hard, right? I make videos.

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I read things on the internet and I talk to a

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camera. It's not actually hard, but it is definitely

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time consuming and trying to find the, I think.

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You've got to find the thing you're actually

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interested in because a lot of people will say

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oh, I'm gonna make a channel I'm gonna make this

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I'm gonna make that But if you don't personally

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find the thing you're doing interesting, you're

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not gonna keep at it And yes, there are these

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channels that kind of blow up after like one

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or two videos Absolutely, but the majority are

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not the majority are going to be You will grind

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you will make a lot of videos you make a lot

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of things. No one cares about And if you don't

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care about it yourself, like you're not going

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to keep at it. Maybe you'll do it for a month,

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two months, three months. But if you don't like

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what you're doing, you are going to give up eventually.

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Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good points. I almost gave

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up, you know, I just did like three months. No

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one watched the videos and I was like, nah, why

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am I even doing this? I don't even know if I

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will continue doing this. I hope I will, you

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know, but it's really tough. It's discouraging.

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A lot of the times, but I guess you just have

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to keep going. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. If it's

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something you actually want to do, I think you

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need to be able to enjoy doing it just as a hobby

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because there's going to be that long period

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where, especially when you're trying to like

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get your foot in the door and try to like establish

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that initial audience where. You can't be motivated

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by the number of views you're gonna get it. It's

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you know, it's fun to be like, oh this video

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got a hundred views Wow, this video got a thousand

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views. That's cool. But if that's the only thing

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that's driving you early on like You are really

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going to struggle. Yeah. Yep, and I have a question

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here. Do you take sponsorships? I watch your

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videos, but I don't think I have seen like This

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video is sponsored by, you know, the usual stuff,

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like NordVPN and all that stuff. Do you take

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sponsorships in your videos, or what's your take?

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I have worked with a company in the past. I was

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sponsored by Linode before they got purchased

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by Akamai. When they got purchased, they just,

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like, cut all of their sponsors, so I wasn't

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working with them anymore. I think they might

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have re -established with a couple of really

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big channels afterwards, but... Before that point,

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they were kind of like working with basically

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everyone. I'm more than happy to work with a

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sponsor, but... At least, okay. There's two separations

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here. On the main channel, I kind of want to

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deal with sponsors I actually like. So, you know,

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working with Linode or... Like, um, if it's going

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to be a VPN company, I want to be able to talk

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about it as a real product. I don't want to say

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things like military grade encryption, quantum

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encryption, uh, using this is going to protect

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people from spying on you. I don't want to, I

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don't want to do that. And I don't really want

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to work with like mobile game company unless

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I actually like the game. Um, so yeah, like.

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If it's a company I like as, as an example, let's

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throw an example out there like, um, boot .dev.

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This is a company that's been sponsoring a lot

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of YouTube channels recently. They're like a,

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they gamify learning programming. I would happily

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work with them. Um, on the podcast, however,

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podcast, I will, I will work with anyone because

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I, I, the podcast, look, if someone wants me

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to sell something dumb, hey, that's gonna, that'll

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be totally fine. Oh, you don't care there. Too

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much. No, the podcast, I think if someone wants

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me to work with something dumb, I'm more than

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happy to just like have some fun with that one.

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Even if it's a mobile game, whatever, right?

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Okay, interesting. Especially if they let me

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have some fun with the ad. Okay, okay. Now, moving

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on to other topics, you want to share two of

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your favorite music bands. What are you into,

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into music? i'm kind of into a bit of everything

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like i grew up like my my parents were like really

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into like acdc and suzy quattro and things like

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that so i kind of have like there's a part of

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me that really enjoys that i enjoy you know things

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like lincoln park three days grace um i like

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like nowadays i like a lot of anime music like

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it's really hard for me to just like pin down

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two specific things but you know what let's say

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um lincoln park and uh slipknot there we go there's

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there's two we can go with how old are you by

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the way i'm 27 27 okay so you still watched lincoln

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park in mtv back in the day uh a little that's

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a little bit before my time at least in australia

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i don't mtv wasn't really I think it was a thing

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on, like, paid TV, and we didn't have that, so...

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Okay, okay. Now that you mentioned Australia,

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how is the situation there with insects? I hear

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that it's not that great. Are there a lot of

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spiders, crazy stuff, or it's just fake news?

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Um... I think it's definitely a bit overblown,

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for sure. Like... Yes, you'll see the odd spider,

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and yes, they're going to be fairly large. But

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for the most part, it's going to be fairly harmless

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spiders, like a daddy longlegs, where it's not

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going to hurt you. Flies are something people

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don't talk about. Flies you get a lot of in the

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summer. If you're anywhere, even remotely rural,

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you're going to be covered in flies. Mosquitoes

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come out constantly as well. Honestly, the thing

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that people don't talk about, which is a lot

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more concerning, is snakes. Snakes are, like,

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a spider, you know, a spider's not, look, you

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can just step on a spider, what's a spider gonna

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do to you? You can crush it with your hand. What

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if you're sleeping and you don't notice, right?

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And it bites you? Yeah, if you're not, if you're

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sleeping, it's not gonna hurt you. Usually if

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a spider's gonna bite you, it's because you've

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gone into its, like, territory, you've gone,

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like, put your hand near a burrow, something

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like that. Snakes are a lot more concerning,

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because you can just be walking through tall

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grass when it's, you know, when they're on their

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way to a rock to get some, like, sun, and if

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you step on one, you're not gonna kill the snake

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by stepping on it. You're gonna be in for some

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trouble there. Do you wear boots or something?

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Oh, look, a lot of people kind of get used to

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it and don't really care, but I tend to wear

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enclosed shoes whenever I'm walking somewhere

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that I can't see the ground. Okay, okay. And

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what about movies? Are you into movies? Not as

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much as I used to be. Like, my parents, they

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had, like, a big DVD collection, a VHS collection

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before that. Nowadays, I don't really watch that

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much in the way of movies. I will say that I

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am a big fan of the Fast and the Furious series.

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Okay. When I watch a movie, I kind of like to

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turn my brain off. I don't really want to deal

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with a movie where it's like, you know, deep

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plot, really have to think about it. Obviously,

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there's some things I will like that are like

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that, where it's like a really meaningful movie,

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like, you know, Forrest Gump, something like

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that. But a lot of the time, I just want to watch...

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Like a dumb action movie, like a Jason Statham

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movie, Fast and the Furious, something like that.

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Just to entertain yourself, basically. John Wick,

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you know, that sort of deal. Okay, and are you

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into video games? I see that you play sometimes

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in lives, right? What video games are you into?

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For the most part, I like a lot of sort of...

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Character action games and RPGs, things like

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that. Right now, on my stream, I'm playing through

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Kazan the First Berserker, which is basically

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Dark Souls. And, yeah, I've played, like, the

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main thing I usually go to is, like, JRPGs, like,

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really long JRPGs, like Final Fantasy, things

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like that. And have you felt as you age, right?

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Because I'm older, I'm 37 at the moment. I used

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to play games when I was younger, but as I age,

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I feel that I just don't want to invest my time

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in games anymore. Have you felt that or you're

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still like full into games? Definitely my taste

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in games has changed. Like when I was younger,

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I used to play a lot of Call of Duty and other

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like multiplayer games where there wasn't really

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any sort of... progression through the game.

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It's you're playing the game against other people.

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You're playing the game to sort of improve at

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the game. My love for JRPGs is kind of a more

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modern thing. I've always kind of enjoyed them,

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but I used to play a lot more of games like that

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or games like RuneScape and like other MMOs where

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sort of there's no ending point to them. Whereas

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now I kind of enjoy games where it's kind of

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like the opposite of the way i watch movies like

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where a lot of the times movies i just want kind

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of nothing but with games i kind of want that

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in -depth story the the instant character arcs

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things like that and then i do like my just you

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know my action games where i can turn my brain

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off as well but that's sort of that's sort of

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secondary in a lot of cases okay okay now i have

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a question and it's an honest question and make

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it may seem like a joke you know but what's the

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purpose of the um arch linux high striped rust

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dev sucks like do they help do they help with

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with circulation is there a purpose to them or

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okay there's there's there's a long there's a

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long bit of law to that um I don't even know

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how to explain to someone who asked that question.

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I don't even know. I have the answer, but I don't

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even know where to begin. Basically, I guess

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the meme is that there's this whole long -running

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joke that... uh using rust and using arch like

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eventually using it will turn you trans and that's

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like kind of where the socks come in um there's

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a lot more to it that's like the surface level

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thing it's like a it's like an uh i guess an

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ironic um like the the socks are kind of an ironic

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thing it's Again, I don't know how to explain

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it to someone who asked this question. But I

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get it. It's basically like a... It's a really

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long inside joke. But do people actually use

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them? Or is it just a meme? It's kind of like...

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It's a bit of both. It's kind of a meme to some

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people. I have them as a joke. I have cat ears

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as a joke because I think they're funny. But

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for a lot of other people, it's kind of this...

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It's kind of this aesthetic of being like...

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a linux user it's like oh i use arch linux i

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have a thinkpad i uh i i don't know i i wear

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the programmer socks the striped socks and it's

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like this It's kind of, I guess the simplest

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way to put it is it's kind of the same thing

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as, like, you know, someone who is emo. Like,

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it's, like, this is the look of being an arch

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user. This is the look of being an emo. It's

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basically that. Oh, okay. Now, because people

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spend a lot of time sitting down. They don't

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do a lot of physical activity. They're not good

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for your circulation. No. Especially not for

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my legs. No, definitely not. Just get up and

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walk around. I've got a standing desk here for

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a reason. Okay, okay. Now, do you mind sharing

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with us a little bit about your background and

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how you ended up in tech? Like, how did it start?

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Did your family raised you with, you know, were

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tech people in your family? Like, what made you

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love tech? Was it school or how did all that

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start? To the question of other tech people in

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my family, absolutely not. My mom and my dad

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both came from farming backgrounds. Both their

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families have been farmers for generations. I

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am basically the tech person in my family. But

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I think it sort of started before I got into

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computers. I've always been the kind of person

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who, if you... hand me a torch for example i'm

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gonna pull it apart i'm gonna work out how the

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torch works how does the battery connect to the

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light like how how does the light turn on you

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know things like that and i've always sort of

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enjoyed that sort of aspect of it um i didn't

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and i didn't have a computer until i didn't have

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a family computer i reckon until like 2006 actually

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so i was eight or so then and That's sort of

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when things started because that's when I I could

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have got on the internet and I had a cousin who

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was a software developer at the time and I kind

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of got interested in like using software and

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like At some point after that I kind of got interested

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in the idea of like, okay. Well, I I like tearing

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things apart Well, what happens if you you know?

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Tear software apart like how does how do you

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make software like what what goes into that?

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And it sort of evolved from there. I started

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watching tech YouTube channels like Linus Tech

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Tips. I eventually built my first computer. And

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somewhere along the line, I heard about this

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Linux thing. I think the first time I heard about

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Linux... I don't know if it was from this, but

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one of the early times was definitely when the

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Steam machines were coming around. Like Valve's

00:23:13.859 --> 00:23:17.640
first attempt at doing Linux gaming. But I didn't

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use Linux back then at all. I think what... changed

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things for me is late high school I had well

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before that I had um yeah sorry I'm trying to

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like remember the history myself so my 10th grade

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we had a robotics class we were doing like lego

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mind storms so it's it's a little lego kit where

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you can do like electronic stuff and build little

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robots with it uh I had a lot of fun with that

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I thought it was really cool it was like a combination

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of the software stuff I was getting interested

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in and then also hardware stuff Then in my 11th

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and 12th grade, we had an actual programming

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class doing Java. It was like game development

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with Java. It was with this really basic library

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called Greenfoot. And I really, really enjoyed

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that. And a lot of the friends I had at the time

00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.539
were also into that as well. Some of them have

00:24:06.539 --> 00:24:10.059
gone on to do indie game development. And from

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there, I was just like, you know what? Let's

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actually pursue this thing. And I ended up going

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to university for software engineering. Yeah,

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somewhere along the line there, I actually swapped

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to Linux because, you know, I'm a software developer.

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I was learning this Git thing. One of my lecturers

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was using Linux. I think he was using Arch at

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the time. Yeah, I reckon it was Arch and i3.

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I was like, okay, let's just see what it's like.

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I discovered Linux YouTubers, and then I decided

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to be one because I thought I could make better

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videos than them, and they weren't initially.

00:24:45.990 --> 00:24:49.640
Oh, yeah. yeah makes sense okay so that's and

00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:51.839
what does your family think about what you do

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like do they agree with you doing youtube channels

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do they understand or is it like brody like what's

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happening man like how do they feel um so my

00:25:06.299 --> 00:25:09.680
mom obviously you know being a mom is Was kind

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of concerned early on, especially when I went

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through my degree and it's like, well, I'm going

00:25:13.500 --> 00:25:15.440
to do this YouTube thing now. I'm not going to

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go get a programming job. It's like, oh, well,

00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:20.480
you know, you can get a programming job eventually.

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Every so often she asks me that, like, oh, you're

00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:24.119
going to apply, you're going to do a programming

00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:28.400
job. I get it, right? Like, she's concerned and,

00:25:28.420 --> 00:25:32.700
like, wants me to do well in life. My sister,

00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:36.960
she, you know, she doesn't really care. She does

00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.920
her own thing. To be fair, like, she's just kind

00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:42.960
of happy to be done with university. She was

00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.559
too bothered by, like, her own stuff for the

00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:50.319
past couple of years. And my stepdad, he's, you

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know, pretty chill with it as well. He's just

00:25:51.819 --> 00:25:54.779
like, you know, that's cool. I've never really

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had any, like, pushback for it because I didn't

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really start doing it until I'd moved out anyway.

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So, you know, it was kind of a bit too late for

00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:03.740
my parents to do any, like, major pushback against

00:26:03.740 --> 00:26:05.720
this. Like, I don't live with you anymore. You

00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:09.019
can't stop me doing this. And do other people

00:26:09.019 --> 00:26:12.400
in your family understand your passion for Linux

00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:15.180
and IT and that stuff? Or are you just the only

00:26:15.180 --> 00:26:18.960
one? So I mentioned that cousin I had who's a

00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:21.759
software developer. I'd never mentioned that

00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:25.619
I had a channel. Randomly, he messaged me. He

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was like, hey, I got a recommendation for one

00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.859
of your videos. I was like, I didn't know you

00:26:29.859 --> 00:26:31.220
were doing this. That's cool. I was like, yeah,

00:26:31.259 --> 00:26:35.359
thank you. I appreciate it. A lot of the rest

00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:38.559
of my family, because my... you know, I was saying

00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:41.539
that the farming background, a lot of them also

00:26:41.539 --> 00:26:43.700
don't really have much of a tech background as

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well. So for a lot of them, it's, I basically

00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.240
just explain what I'm doing as I'm a technology

00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:54.559
journalist. And that's usually enough because

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the second I say I make YouTube videos, I get

00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:00.420
the obvious question. How do you make money on

00:27:00.420 --> 00:27:03.920
YouTube? What do they pay you for? How much do

00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:08.160
you get paid? Do you ask everybody you meet how

00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:13.900
much their salary is? Yeah, when I had to explain

00:27:13.900 --> 00:27:16.799
my job to my dad, you know, I was a monitoring

00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:19.000
engineer in the previous company. I used to manage

00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.200
monitoring tools, you know, tools that the company

00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:23.519
uses to monitor whatever they needed to monitor.

00:27:24.339 --> 00:27:26.680
Try to explain that to your parents. It's like,

00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.299
what are you doing? He asked me like three, four

00:27:29.299 --> 00:27:33.299
or five times. He doesn't get it yet. Right,

00:27:33.500 --> 00:27:36.470
right. Hard to explain all this stuff, yeah.

00:27:36.930 --> 00:27:41.450
Yeah, I get it. I have noticed that all of the

00:27:41.450 --> 00:27:45.390
people that do tech stuff are into instruments.

00:27:45.569 --> 00:27:48.130
I had a call with DistroTube, I don't know, a

00:27:48.130 --> 00:27:50.430
few weeks ago, I think, and he's in the trombone.

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He was in the trombone. I don't know if he still

00:27:52.490 --> 00:27:58.069
does or not. Are you into any instruments? Yes.

00:27:59.109 --> 00:28:01.750
At the same time, I just don't put the effort

00:28:01.750 --> 00:28:05.500
into... I just don't really put the effort into

00:28:05.500 --> 00:28:12.940
practicing. So I have a guitar back here. I don't

00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:14.460
know if you can see it with the way the camera's

00:28:14.460 --> 00:28:20.779
cropped. Oh, I see it. Yeah, there we go. Yeah,

00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:22.500
I have a guitar back there. I just don't practice

00:28:22.500 --> 00:28:24.440
it anywhere near as much as I should, so I'm

00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:30.339
not very good. But, yeah, I don't know why that

00:28:30.339 --> 00:28:32.700
would be the case. Why people in the tech space,

00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:37.190
sort of are also interested in music in an instrument

00:28:37.190 --> 00:28:42.589
yeah yeah maybe it's i don't i don't know i'm

00:28:42.589 --> 00:28:45.309
sure somebody's probably like can probably come

00:28:45.309 --> 00:28:48.009
with some idea for that um i do want to get a

00:28:48.009 --> 00:28:49.750
keyboard i kind of want to learn a key uh learn

00:28:49.750 --> 00:28:52.230
the keyboard but i also don't have space that's

00:28:52.230 --> 00:28:53.950
the ultimate problem for like anything it's like

00:28:53.950 --> 00:28:55.890
okay i could do it but like where am i gonna

00:28:55.890 --> 00:28:59.619
put it yeah Could it be that we were looking

00:28:59.619 --> 00:29:01.940
for fame in music, we didn't get it, and now

00:29:01.940 --> 00:29:06.480
we're trying to do it in YouTube? I don't know,

00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.819
maybe for some people, but I started a couple

00:29:09.819 --> 00:29:12.920
of years ago, so for me, I was long into doing

00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:15.339
the YouTube thing already. Okay, you started

00:29:15.339 --> 00:29:19.640
with YouTube first, okay. And we already went

00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.920
over this. Okay, your editor, we're moving to

00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.319
other... to more technical stuff right now. What's

00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:30.259
your main editor as of today? If I'm dealing

00:29:30.259 --> 00:29:33.480
with just general config files, things like that,

00:29:33.619 --> 00:29:37.400
I'll usually just use... I just go NeoVim. I've

00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:39.720
tried to get into doing programming in NeoVim,

00:29:39.819 --> 00:29:44.680
and it's just never clicked with me. So my main

00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:52.420
code editor, that is going to be VS Code. If

00:29:52.420 --> 00:29:59.200
I'm... Well, I also do stuff with Godot. And

00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:03.039
when I'm doing that, I just use the editor that's

00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.660
built into it. But yeah, generally, it's going

00:30:05.660 --> 00:30:09.079
to be VS Code. Okay. If you want to get serious

00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:13.440
work done, VS Code for config files, readmes,

00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:15.819
markdown, stuff like that, I assume, NeoVim?

00:30:16.500 --> 00:30:18.759
Yeah, yeah. Also, that's also what I use for

00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.609
my... I see the next thing on the thing you have

00:30:21.609 --> 00:30:23.569
there. You're going to ask about note -taking.

00:30:23.809 --> 00:30:25.750
It's going to be the same answer for that. Note

00:30:25.750 --> 00:30:29.369
-taking I use VimWiki for, which is a plug -in

00:30:29.369 --> 00:30:32.950
for Vim. I've considered doing the whole Obsidian

00:30:32.950 --> 00:30:37.130
thing, and yeah, I get it. Obsidian's really

00:30:37.130 --> 00:30:40.369
cool. But at the same time, I've used VimWiki

00:30:40.369 --> 00:30:44.450
for five years, so moving off of... That's the

00:30:44.450 --> 00:30:46.470
problem with moving to any of these new tools.

00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.579
I don't want to move five years worth of notes.

00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:56.259
Yeah, for sure. But the Obsidian app itself,

00:30:56.500 --> 00:30:58.599
is that what you have thought about the Obsidian

00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:01.220
app or? That would, if I did go to something

00:31:01.220 --> 00:31:04.759
else, it would be Obsidian. Yes. Well, just my

00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.839
personal experience. I did Obsidian for quite

00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:11.900
some time and I just moved back to new them.

00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:15.140
Well. I started with NeoVim after and I just

00:31:15.140 --> 00:31:17.359
moved everything from Obsidian to NeoVim because

00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:20.700
basically Obsidian is just, you know, markdown

00:31:20.700 --> 00:31:23.359
files. You create a vault, which is technically

00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.539
a folder. So I just opened my Obsidian folder

00:31:26.539 --> 00:31:29.480
in NeoVim and I do everything there, you know,

00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.519
image viewing. I can even paste images. So I

00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.220
don't need Obsidian anymore. And well, once I

00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:40.519
started with NeoVim a lot, I didn't have the

00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:45.039
Vim. power that i needed back in obsidian so

00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.299
it started to feel not enough for me anymore

00:31:48.299 --> 00:31:51.059
so i just decided yeah i'm not using obsidian

00:31:51.059 --> 00:31:54.480
anymore i'm full neo vim now so do you use vim

00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:58.900
wiki do you use it in neo vim or vim i near him

00:31:58.900 --> 00:32:02.500
you have him okay okay now do you use your own

00:32:02.500 --> 00:32:07.359
distribution or um no your own config in neo

00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:11.160
vim or do you use a distribution I use my own

00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:14.700
config. This sort of comes from when I was planning

00:32:14.700 --> 00:32:17.579
to do programming stuff and properly learn NeoVim

00:32:17.579 --> 00:32:20.660
for that. I've pieced something together over

00:32:20.660 --> 00:32:23.440
many, many years. I haven't even converted it

00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.900
over to Lua yet, because I had it from back on

00:32:26.900 --> 00:32:30.220
regular Vim, so it's in the VimRC format. I've

00:32:30.220 --> 00:32:33.140
moved it over, and then I've done random reworks

00:32:33.140 --> 00:32:37.930
and all this stuff. It's one of those things

00:32:37.930 --> 00:32:41.609
where I know I probably should, and there's a

00:32:41.609 --> 00:32:46.910
bunch of outdated plugins as well, and I just

00:32:46.910 --> 00:32:49.089
don't have the interest in messing around with

00:32:49.089 --> 00:32:52.369
it at this point to really bring it to a good

00:32:52.369 --> 00:32:56.210
state. Yeah, and you know it's going to be not

00:32:56.210 --> 00:32:58.730
only a day of work, that's just going to be probably

00:32:58.730 --> 00:33:03.470
months of work. Yeah. I guess you don't want

00:33:03.470 --> 00:33:06.839
to take that jump, right? Not right now. Maybe

00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.059
at some point. I can mess with it any time in

00:33:10.059 --> 00:33:12.299
the future. And have you thought about trying

00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:16.680
a distribution like LazyVim, for example? I have.

00:33:17.140 --> 00:33:19.599
I've played around with a couple of them in the

00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:22.940
past. The problem I find whenever I do that,

00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:24.420
and it's the same problem I have with something

00:33:24.420 --> 00:33:32.319
like OhMyZSH, I never remember the... bindings

00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:35.559
that other people make the shortcuts like any

00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:39.000
like weird commands they do it's the same problem

00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:41.180
i have when i use a different window manager

00:33:41.180 --> 00:33:44.359
i want to configure things to be the thing that

00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.339
i'm comfortable with so effectively i end up

00:33:47.339 --> 00:33:51.180
just rewriting the config myself so I guess I

00:33:51.180 --> 00:33:53.339
could use something like that as a baseline for

00:33:53.339 --> 00:33:56.019
a lot of the functionality and then rebind things

00:33:56.019 --> 00:33:59.200
to sort of bring it to the state I'm happy with.

00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:02.140
But again, it's just not something that I've

00:34:02.140 --> 00:34:05.000
really felt the need to do at least anytime soon.

00:34:05.460 --> 00:34:08.639
Okay, makes sense. What tool do you use to push

00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:13.019
to version control? Do you use the command line

00:34:13.019 --> 00:34:15.159
or do you use a tool? Yeah, I just use regular

00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:18.340
Git. Yeah, okay. I learned regular Git. I've

00:34:18.340 --> 00:34:22.179
messed around with... I've used Turtle over on

00:34:22.179 --> 00:34:25.199
Windows. I've used like the GitHub GUI a couple

00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:28.679
of times. If I'm going to use something besides

00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:33.639
Git, I'm going to use the GitHub CLI tool. But

00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:37.400
usually Git does like 99 % of what I want anyway.

00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:44.000
Okay. Have you tried LazyGit? That I have tried.

00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.940
The problem that... I always run into with any

00:34:47.940 --> 00:34:51.420
of the GUIs, any of the TUIs, any of the interfaces

00:34:51.420 --> 00:34:55.599
on top of Git, is even if it's not explicit,

00:34:55.900 --> 00:34:59.159
they tend to implicitly push you towards a certain

00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:03.780
kind of workflow. And if that workflow aligns

00:35:03.780 --> 00:35:05.619
with the way you want to use Git, it's great.

00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:10.000
If you ever run into a situation where you're

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:11.880
sort of like butting heads with the way it wants

00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:15.429
you to work... It ends up just feeling less convenient

00:35:15.429 --> 00:35:18.570
than just using Git commands. And again, I tend

00:35:18.570 --> 00:35:20.590
to like shortcut stuff that I want to be using

00:35:20.590 --> 00:35:22.610
anyway. So I'm writing out the full Git commands.

00:35:22.750 --> 00:35:24.829
I'll write scripts around stuff that I want to

00:35:24.829 --> 00:35:28.289
be using. So I'm kind of like building up my

00:35:28.289 --> 00:35:31.849
own tooling around Git anyway, just to work the

00:35:31.849 --> 00:35:34.789
exact way I want it to work. Okay. Okay. Great.

00:35:35.050 --> 00:35:37.570
What are your thoughts on Tmux? Are you a big

00:35:37.570 --> 00:35:42.340
Tmux fan or not at all? I kind of get the Tmux

00:35:42.340 --> 00:35:45.179
thing, but for me, I've always been a big tiling

00:35:45.179 --> 00:35:49.380
window manager user. So it's kind of a lot of

00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:51.639
the stuff I want from Tmux, being able to place

00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:56.360
tiles of my terminals. I do get the whole benefit

00:35:56.360 --> 00:36:00.539
of the SSH session stuff. That's great. And if

00:36:00.539 --> 00:36:02.940
I did that more often, I probably would use Tmux.

00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.880
But my desktop basically does the majority of

00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.360
what I want from Tmux, the tabbing, the tiling.

00:36:10.109 --> 00:36:13.989
Um, yeah, so for me, like I kind of have the,

00:36:14.010 --> 00:36:16.190
my, my entire desktop kind of feels like TMUX.

00:36:16.510 --> 00:36:19.369
Yeah. Similar to what DistroTube said, you know,

00:36:19.389 --> 00:36:23.730
he uses the window manager, but there's a question

00:36:23.730 --> 00:36:26.110
that I have, you know, for tiling users, cause

00:36:26.110 --> 00:36:30.690
I'm not a tiling user. I don't like tiles. Isn't

00:36:30.690 --> 00:36:33.650
it too complicated? Like thinking, okay, so.

00:36:34.139 --> 00:36:36.679
I need to have just two applications in this

00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:38.659
screen because if I open a third one, it's just

00:36:38.659 --> 00:36:40.320
going to make it smaller and it's just not going

00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.679
to make sense at all, right? So do you have to

00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:46.940
be moving stuff around, organizing windows? Isn't

00:36:46.940 --> 00:36:52.099
that too cumbersome? So, yes, with a regular

00:36:52.099 --> 00:36:54.280
tiler. And I can show you a bit of a demo here.

00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:56.800
I'm not actually using a regular tiler at this

00:36:56.800 --> 00:37:01.099
point. Let me switch to your screen. There we

00:37:01.099 --> 00:37:04.900
go. So right now I'm using a tool called Neary.

00:37:05.820 --> 00:37:07.920
So we spawn a window like that. I can make it

00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:11.619
take up the entire screen if I want to. And there

00:37:11.619 --> 00:37:14.340
we go. We have like two windows here. But Neary

00:37:14.340 --> 00:37:16.699
is a bit different to a regular tiler. So this

00:37:16.699 --> 00:37:19.920
is actually a scrolling window manager where

00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:22.619
I can make another window here. And basically

00:37:22.619 --> 00:37:26.260
I have infinite horizontal space. So I can say,

00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.800
if I want to put this one here, I have all three

00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.840
of these windows here. I can spawn another one

00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.190
off to the side. So this is something I've been

00:37:34.190 --> 00:37:36.150
trying out very recently and it kind of eliminates

00:37:36.150 --> 00:37:40.329
that like space problem because now if I, if

00:37:40.329 --> 00:37:42.889
I have too many windows open, I can still go

00:37:42.889 --> 00:37:45.110
to a second workspace and add something here,

00:37:45.250 --> 00:37:47.530
but I don't really have that like space concern

00:37:47.530 --> 00:37:50.210
that you would have had with the most other things

00:37:50.210 --> 00:37:53.170
that people are using. Um, I have traditionally

00:37:53.170 --> 00:37:55.750
used things that like people like DT have been

00:37:55.750 --> 00:38:00.510
using and I do like them. Uh, but this. I do

00:38:00.510 --> 00:38:05.889
think is a much better way to do it. And don't

00:38:05.889 --> 00:38:07.610
you have to be searching for stuff? Like you

00:38:07.610 --> 00:38:10.469
have to keep track in your mind, like where stuff

00:38:10.469 --> 00:38:12.929
are, right? Isn't that a problem? Like, okay,

00:38:12.969 --> 00:38:15.369
so I remember that I have this application on

00:38:15.369 --> 00:38:17.409
desktop one, the other one opened in desktop

00:38:17.409 --> 00:38:19.969
three. Like, do you have to be jumping around

00:38:19.969 --> 00:38:22.610
and trying to find the thing that you're actually

00:38:22.610 --> 00:38:29.179
looking for? If you're unorganized, yes. But

00:38:29.179 --> 00:38:33.219
if you are comfortable using a tiler, you tend

00:38:33.219 --> 00:38:38.219
to sort of fall into an idea of like, okay, I'm

00:38:38.219 --> 00:38:40.920
going to put this specific thing here, I'm going

00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:43.639
to put this thing here, and this window over

00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:48.760
here. So you kind of learn where you end up placing

00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:51.670
things. And a lot of, a lot of tiles also allow

00:38:51.670 --> 00:38:54.289
you to name your workspaces as well. So you can

00:38:54.289 --> 00:38:57.050
say, this is my terminal workspace. This is my

00:38:57.050 --> 00:38:59.949
development workspace. And then sort of use that

00:38:59.949 --> 00:39:03.369
as like a mental guide. So you place things in

00:39:03.369 --> 00:39:05.510
logical groupings where you don't end up losing

00:39:05.510 --> 00:39:09.610
them. Okay. Makes sense. Makes sense. I have

00:39:09.610 --> 00:39:14.389
to give tiles a try, you know? I don't know.

00:39:15.230 --> 00:39:18.889
I'm just used to stacking mode. So I don't know.

00:39:19.789 --> 00:39:23.130
Yeah. And operating system. Next question. Of

00:39:23.130 --> 00:39:25.429
course, everyone knows what it is, you know,

00:39:25.429 --> 00:39:29.090
but why did you choose Linux as your main operating

00:39:29.090 --> 00:39:34.269
system? And what were you on before Linux? So

00:39:34.269 --> 00:39:39.949
I was on Windows 10 right before, but for a long

00:39:39.949 --> 00:39:46.010
time, I actually was a Mac OS user as well. mavericks

00:39:46.010 --> 00:39:48.489
that was the last one i've used so it was a while

00:39:48.489 --> 00:39:52.010
ago but i i did use i think i didn't use mac

00:39:52.010 --> 00:39:55.969
os from i reckon snow leopard to mavericks uh

00:39:55.969 --> 00:39:59.909
i because my uh my high school uh they used macbooks

00:39:59.909 --> 00:40:03.210
as their like school laptops so i kind of got

00:40:03.210 --> 00:40:06.090
used to the mac os stuff from that uh the reason

00:40:06.090 --> 00:40:10.280
why i end up going to linux is I was using a

00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:13.719
lot of Linux tooling in university. I was using

00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:17.739
Git. I was using, you know, GCC and all, like,

00:40:17.820 --> 00:40:20.260
various other tools you're going to be using

00:40:20.260 --> 00:40:22.440
either in a Linux virtual machine or nowadays

00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:27.039
through something like WSL. And I really got

00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:29.039
interested in what these Linux YouTubers were

00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:32.840
doing. You say you kind of really don't get the

00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:35.659
Tyler thing, the whole managing Windows, but...

00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:39.139
I started seeing videos of people using tailors

00:40:39.139 --> 00:40:41.719
like DT and like a bunch of other people. And

00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:44.719
I really liked the idea. I thought it was super

00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:47.360
cool. I'd never seen something like that. And

00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:50.699
I really wanted to try it out and just see what

00:40:50.699 --> 00:40:53.139
it was like. So I kind of just dived headfirst

00:40:53.139 --> 00:40:59.780
into it. Going straight from Windows 10 to Arch

00:40:59.780 --> 00:41:04.380
Linux. I did it at a bad time. I did it at the

00:41:04.380 --> 00:41:06.340
start of university semester. Wouldn't recommend

00:41:06.340 --> 00:41:09.179
it. And you bought the socks at the same time?

00:41:09.460 --> 00:41:12.719
Or you got those later? No, I got the socks a

00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:18.480
bit later. Okay. But yeah, I was using a lot

00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:19.980
of Linux tooling anyway, so it kind of just made

00:41:19.980 --> 00:41:24.380
sense to use Linux. Okay. And what are your thoughts

00:41:24.380 --> 00:41:27.780
on currently the state of... Let's start with

00:41:27.780 --> 00:41:30.659
Windows. Are you a Windows fan still? What are

00:41:30.659 --> 00:41:37.440
your thoughts? I've become less and less interested

00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.820
in Windows over the years. Initially, because

00:41:40.820 --> 00:41:43.199
I do that whole, you know, I like gaming, I like

00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.619
PC gaming. When I first switched, there was definitely

00:41:46.619 --> 00:41:50.119
a lot more games where Linux just really couldn't

00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.019
do it. And Windows, I kind of had there as a

00:41:53.019 --> 00:41:57.289
backup for a couple of games. But now that we're

00:41:57.289 --> 00:42:00.289
in the whole Windows 11 thing with all of the

00:42:00.289 --> 00:42:03.329
data collections, even more data collection stuff,

00:42:03.670 --> 00:42:10.269
the direct OS integration with AI tooling, using

00:42:10.269 --> 00:42:13.550
that to train on your OS data without your consent,

00:42:14.030 --> 00:42:20.210
the even more inclusion of ads directly in the

00:42:20.210 --> 00:42:26.070
operating system. Just like, I can't. Like, anytime

00:42:26.070 --> 00:42:28.769
someone asks me to help them with something on

00:42:28.769 --> 00:42:32.829
Windows, like, I'll try, but I just don't care

00:42:32.829 --> 00:42:36.309
at all about Windows at this point. It's not

00:42:36.309 --> 00:42:39.329
a fan at all. Do you consider that you hate Windows?

00:42:42.429 --> 00:42:45.469
I guess so, but I'm also not going to tell someone

00:42:45.469 --> 00:42:48.469
not to use the thing they like. If Windows is

00:42:48.469 --> 00:42:50.929
working for you, if Windows is the thing you

00:42:50.929 --> 00:42:53.210
need for your workflow... It's your computer.

00:42:53.250 --> 00:42:55.090
It's your life. Do the thing you want to use.

00:42:55.170 --> 00:42:58.829
If I can convince you to use Linux, hey, that's

00:42:58.829 --> 00:43:01.170
awesome. Come out. Come try and see what it's

00:43:01.170 --> 00:43:03.769
like. But if Windows is doing what you want it

00:43:03.769 --> 00:43:09.030
to do, it doesn't really bother me. Okay. Makes

00:43:09.030 --> 00:43:11.789
sense. I was recently hired at a new company.

00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:14.719
And I'm going to be using Windows, a ThinkPad

00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:18.019
with Windows. I try to go with a different operating

00:43:18.019 --> 00:43:20.519
system. There's no choice. You know, it's just

00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:25.219
one of those big corporate. So there's nothing

00:43:25.219 --> 00:43:29.079
you can do. And Mac, what are your thoughts on

00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.880
Mac recently? Have you played with it recently?

00:43:33.019 --> 00:43:36.519
I have been so out of the loop with macOS for

00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:40.980
so long. I honestly... I have no idea what's

00:43:40.980 --> 00:43:44.900
happening in the Apple ecosystem. Okay. So you

00:43:44.900 --> 00:43:46.739
don't have any thoughts on macOS at the moment?

00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.340
Not really. I haven't heard anyone really complaining

00:43:51.340 --> 00:43:54.059
about it. I know Apple's just doing the normal

00:43:54.059 --> 00:43:57.280
Apple thing they do where they come five years

00:43:57.280 --> 00:43:59.099
late to something and they say they invented

00:43:59.099 --> 00:44:01.960
it by giving it a new name. But besides that,

00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:05.679
like... I saw a recent Apple event where they

00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.320
announced that iPadOS has a calculator now and

00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:13.500
everyone cheered. So I don't know. Yeah. Yeah,

00:44:13.579 --> 00:44:19.219
definitely. Yeah. I didn't use macOS back in

00:44:19.219 --> 00:44:21.500
the day, but now it's a little bit better, I

00:44:21.500 --> 00:44:23.960
would say. You get at least window managers and

00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:28.579
you have a few options, right? It's getting better

00:44:28.579 --> 00:44:31.500
if you're more into the Linux side of things.

00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:33.760
It's not Linux, of course. You know, it's not

00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:36.539
as cool as Linux, but you have a few options.

00:44:36.820 --> 00:44:43.400
So I would say it's decent at the time. And do

00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:46.980
you think there's like a rivalry between Mac

00:44:46.980 --> 00:44:51.079
OS and Linux communities? Or what are your thoughts

00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:57.159
there? I can't really speak for anybody else.

00:44:57.179 --> 00:45:00.099
I have quite a few Mac viewers in my audience

00:45:00.099 --> 00:45:02.719
because a lot of the tooling we use on Linux,

00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:07.039
because it's like a lot of it has that Unix base.

00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.860
It's going to work just fine on Mac. And like,

00:45:10.380 --> 00:45:12.719
I don't really, I don't know. I feel like a lot

00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.139
of the people who use Apple devices aren't really

00:45:15.139 --> 00:45:17.360
techie people to begin with. Obviously there's

00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.460
like weird switch where a lot of my university

00:45:19.460 --> 00:45:23.440
professors were. hard apple people they were

00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:25.920
developers on apple because they used to use

00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.840
unix back in the 80s and apple is kind of like

00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:34.039
the it's the modern corporate unix um but i don't

00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:37.920
really find as much rivalry i i i sort of feel

00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.719
like a lot of people i don't know i feel like

00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:42.980
a lot of people like fairly welcoming of it and

00:45:42.980 --> 00:45:44.820
there's a lot of big projects i know that are

00:45:44.820 --> 00:45:47.320
developed by apple people they work great on

00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:52.960
um on linux and Vice versa as well. And yeah,

00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:54.900
at least from my experience, it doesn't seem

00:45:54.900 --> 00:45:59.639
like it. Hmm. Okay. Okay. Now I asked this question

00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.179
to DistroTube as well, you know, cause, um, Oh,

00:46:03.219 --> 00:46:06.840
well, what are, I did watch your PewDiePie video,

00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.000
you know, that reaction that you did. What are

00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.199
your thoughts like on him bringing a lot of new

00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:14.340
people over to Linux? What are your thoughts

00:46:14.340 --> 00:46:18.019
on that? I actually have a plan to do a video.

00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:21.420
a sort of follow -up video to this sort of comparing

00:46:21.420 --> 00:46:24.420
the way that linus tech tips did their video

00:46:24.420 --> 00:46:29.119
and pewdiepie did his video because i feel like

00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.920
with pewdiepie he genuinely wanted to learn linux

00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:35.980
he wanted to become a linux user and wanted to

00:46:35.980 --> 00:46:39.039
understand like why this was a thing that people

00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:42.440
like and he came out of that really enjoying

00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:44.719
it and i think that was very beneficial because

00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:48.630
people It wasn't someone sitting there for 20

00:46:48.630 --> 00:46:50.190
minutes just complaining about Linux. Yeah, there

00:46:50.190 --> 00:46:56.349
were certainly problems, absolutely. But it sort

00:46:56.349 --> 00:47:00.030
of showed what Linux was capable of and made

00:47:00.030 --> 00:47:02.190
people excited for it. And I saw a lot of people

00:47:02.190 --> 00:47:04.750
trying it out after that. Whereas with the LTT

00:47:04.750 --> 00:47:09.909
stuff, they kind of just... I don't know if they

00:47:09.909 --> 00:47:12.929
want it. Luke seemed like he was going fine with

00:47:12.929 --> 00:47:15.880
it, but... Linus, I don't know if he wanted to

00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.659
come out of it hating it, or what the goal was

00:47:19.659 --> 00:47:23.199
there, but it... I feel like there are a lot

00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:24.760
of problems there that could have been addressed

00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:27.559
with just a little bit more thought, and it's

00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:29.199
just like, the second something goes wrong, give

00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:31.579
up, the thing's broken, move on to something

00:47:31.579 --> 00:47:34.340
new. Yeah, it's like if someone would ask me

00:47:34.340 --> 00:47:36.679
to review Windows right now, I would probably

00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.929
wouldn't do my best job, and... Wouldn't make

00:47:39.929 --> 00:47:42.469
it look good. Something like that happened with

00:47:42.469 --> 00:47:48.309
Linus and Linux, right? And you mentioned LTT.

00:47:49.489 --> 00:47:53.929
Were you a fan of Anthony? Well, it was Anthony

00:47:53.929 --> 00:47:57.969
back then. It's now Emily. Did you enjoy Anthony's

00:47:57.969 --> 00:48:01.329
back -in -the -day videos? Absolutely, yeah.

00:48:01.690 --> 00:48:05.510
No, I felt like that was some of the best content

00:48:05.510 --> 00:48:11.730
that was coming out of LTT. Like, I think at

00:48:11.730 --> 00:48:14.190
this point, I know that LTD's talked about wanting

00:48:14.190 --> 00:48:17.170
to do another Linux series. And what I really

00:48:17.170 --> 00:48:20.650
wished happened is there was sort of like a discussion

00:48:20.650 --> 00:48:23.210
with Linux people about like what went wrong

00:48:23.210 --> 00:48:26.949
there, like how to fix problems. And I don't

00:48:26.949 --> 00:48:30.769
know, I do think having some sort of Linux voice

00:48:30.769 --> 00:48:35.469
around. whether it be whether being Emily or

00:48:35.469 --> 00:48:37.489
whether it be anyone else like having someone

00:48:37.489 --> 00:48:39.750
there who's actually a Linux user who can really

00:48:39.750 --> 00:48:43.469
talk like through the problems because Yes, it's

00:48:43.469 --> 00:48:45.170
it's one thing to go in blind. Most people aren't

00:48:45.170 --> 00:48:46.849
going in blind like they're going in with YouTube

00:48:46.849 --> 00:48:49.210
videos. They're going in with tutorials They

00:48:49.210 --> 00:48:51.750
might have a friend who uses Linux who can guide

00:48:51.750 --> 00:48:55.349
you through things when you have a problem So

00:48:55.349 --> 00:48:58.889
I was subscribed to the LTT channel. I used to

00:48:58.889 --> 00:49:03.030
enjoy their videos, Emily's videos. I used to

00:49:03.030 --> 00:49:05.010
enjoy them. That's the ones that I watched the

00:49:05.010 --> 00:49:09.530
most. Right. But ever since Emily left, I don't

00:49:09.530 --> 00:49:12.730
watch them. I unsubscribe from the channel. I

00:49:12.730 --> 00:49:15.889
watch a few of them sometimes just to see what's

00:49:15.889 --> 00:49:18.070
going on. And I just see marketing stuff, you

00:49:18.070 --> 00:49:21.190
know, ads basically. Right. So would you like

00:49:21.190 --> 00:49:24.250
to see? emily back in the channel or what are

00:49:24.250 --> 00:49:29.750
your thoughts there with ltd she's moved on for

00:49:29.750 --> 00:49:32.190
i don't i don't know what reasons she'd left

00:49:32.190 --> 00:49:34.570
the company i'm sure there's some reason there

00:49:34.570 --> 00:49:39.630
um i would like them just to have some i don't

00:49:39.630 --> 00:49:41.329
know like i'm sure they've heard this plenty

00:49:41.329 --> 00:49:43.449
of times like you know more go back to the roots

00:49:43.449 --> 00:49:45.969
what the channel used to be like doing a lot

00:49:45.969 --> 00:49:50.349
of like fun tech stuff i i i i feel like ltd

00:49:50.349 --> 00:49:53.099
is one of those channels that's hired so many

00:49:53.099 --> 00:49:57.579
people that they can't really make a change because

00:49:57.579 --> 00:50:01.000
they need to make the videos as sort of general

00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:04.099
as possible get as many views as possible because

00:50:04.099 --> 00:50:07.280
if they don't do that you can't afford all of

00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:09.760
the employees you've got at this point it the

00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:13.099
ship's basically too big to turn yeah it's turning

00:50:13.099 --> 00:50:17.159
like into a mr beast type of thing i guess right

00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:21.630
okay and um This is something else that I also

00:50:21.630 --> 00:50:27.989
asked DT advice about. Like, I've been wanting

00:50:27.989 --> 00:50:31.510
to try Linux, but I don't know which distro to

00:50:31.510 --> 00:50:34.449
play around with. What I'm looking for is this

00:50:34.449 --> 00:50:37.050
stability. Mainly, I want to turn my computer

00:50:37.050 --> 00:50:41.389
on and I want it to work. I want to record videos

00:50:41.389 --> 00:50:45.030
and I just want the audio to work, OBS to work,

00:50:45.090 --> 00:50:47.909
and everything else, you know, to work as well.

00:50:49.710 --> 00:50:52.690
That's the reason why I'm still in macOS. But

00:50:52.690 --> 00:50:58.550
what would you say is a good distro to try? I

00:50:58.550 --> 00:51:00.429
don't want to be installing dependencies. If

00:51:00.429 --> 00:51:02.170
I'm going to install a package that is going

00:51:02.170 --> 00:51:05.170
to break other packages, I'm probably not into

00:51:05.170 --> 00:51:09.070
that. Right, right, right. Well, I've been an

00:51:09.070 --> 00:51:11.110
Arch Linux user for the past five years. I'm

00:51:11.110 --> 00:51:12.849
not going to tell you to use Arch Linux, but

00:51:12.849 --> 00:51:19.840
honestly, I... You can't really go wrong with...

00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.119
I know people want to recommend various different

00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.880
fancy things, but you can't really go wrong with

00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:28.719
a basic recommendation like Ubuntu or Fedora.

00:51:30.059 --> 00:51:32.099
Everything's going to have problems because you're

00:51:32.099 --> 00:51:34.659
not having the full level of testing that you

00:51:34.659 --> 00:51:40.400
get from something like a macOS or Windows. You're

00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:42.539
going to run into a lot more issues because of

00:51:42.539 --> 00:51:46.809
that. But of the things that are out there, There's

00:51:46.809 --> 00:51:48.849
absolutely nothing wrong with those as recommendations.

00:51:49.349 --> 00:51:53.730
I do think the... It's kind of a hit and miss

00:51:53.730 --> 00:51:56.449
for some people, but I would generally steer

00:51:56.449 --> 00:52:00.429
people clear of the GNOME desktop as their first

00:52:00.429 --> 00:52:03.269
experience, just because it is such a different

00:52:03.269 --> 00:52:07.650
kind of way to use a system. I guess coming from

00:52:07.650 --> 00:52:11.250
macOS, it's probably more familiar, but I would

00:52:11.250 --> 00:52:13.469
still probably push someone more towards the

00:52:13.469 --> 00:52:18.980
KDE side, so... a kubuntu or fedora kde let me

00:52:18.980 --> 00:52:20.800
just quickly show you my screen so you can maybe

00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.639
have a better idea of how i use it you know and

00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:26.440
recommend something there so oh this is your

00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:30.679
screen this is my screen here okay so one app

00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:33.559
on the screen at a time i go to my browser terminal

00:52:33.559 --> 00:52:36.320
if i go to youtube oh i'm not gonna open youtube

00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:38.719
because i don't know if i have my analytics up

00:52:38.719 --> 00:52:41.139
there or something but that's basically what

00:52:41.139 --> 00:52:43.340
i do you know just a single app on the screen

00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:46.960
window manager basic stuff i don't need fancy

00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.480
animations you know if you notice i just switch

00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:51.659
between the apps like that and that's the way

00:52:51.659 --> 00:52:54.860
that i switch between basically all the different

00:52:54.860 --> 00:52:57.860
applications with with keyboard shortcuts uh

00:52:57.860 --> 00:53:00.699
just the bar on the top that tells me like the

00:53:00.699 --> 00:53:02.860
application that i'm on and a few other things

00:53:02.860 --> 00:53:06.199
that i need just need to see like if i have packages

00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.579
that i need to update that's why i have this

00:53:08.579 --> 00:53:12.380
little icon here that tells me you have 10 packages

00:53:12.380 --> 00:53:13.940
that you need to update. So I just go in and

00:53:13.940 --> 00:53:17.420
update every now and then. Right. So basically

00:53:17.420 --> 00:53:19.639
this I don't need anything fancy. I just need

00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:22.920
something stable. And that looks cool. You know,

00:53:22.980 --> 00:53:25.059
I don't want to I don't want it to look really

00:53:25.059 --> 00:53:28.519
outdated and stuff like that. But stability and

00:53:28.519 --> 00:53:31.440
just this basic functionality. I don't know if

00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:34.699
the window manager I should use this I3 or if

00:53:34.699 --> 00:53:37.480
there's something else that I should be aiming

00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:42.570
for. Well, if this is the kind of workflow you're

00:53:42.570 --> 00:53:44.469
doing, honestly, yeah, window manager would make

00:53:44.469 --> 00:53:54.329
a lot more sense to you. When I start recommending...

00:53:54.329 --> 00:53:56.889
This is a problem, right? If I'm going to recommend

00:53:56.889 --> 00:54:00.670
something, I want someone to be going straight

00:54:00.670 --> 00:54:11.760
to Weyland. But I... I... I don't know the full

00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:13.699
extent of your workflow. I don't know if there's

00:54:13.699 --> 00:54:16.860
anything currently on Wayland that wouldn't work

00:54:16.860 --> 00:54:21.539
for you. The Wayland version of i3 would be Sway

00:54:21.539 --> 00:54:30.239
in that case. But I do think try out i3 and just

00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:36.699
see how that goes. And there is a... i3 version

00:54:36.699 --> 00:54:39.320
of fedora if you wanted to use that fedora i3

00:54:39.320 --> 00:54:42.159
and that should give you like a good starting

00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.840
point to work off from there okay and what is

00:54:45.840 --> 00:54:48.039
wayland is it like the window manager because

00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:50.679
i just hear all these words in your videos wayland

00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:53.139
right compositors i have no idea i just know

00:54:53.139 --> 00:54:56.880
that window managers exist in mac os but in linux

00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.460
you guys talk about so much different stuff that

00:54:59.460 --> 00:55:02.610
i'm confused right understandable um okay so

00:55:02.610 --> 00:55:10.510
x11 is this protocol set from 1984 yeah uh this

00:55:10.510 --> 00:55:15.170
has been the basis for unix graphics since then

00:55:15.170 --> 00:55:18.710
like whether we're talking linux now i guess

00:55:18.710 --> 00:55:22.050
linux back in the early 2000s uh sun and pretty

00:55:22.050 --> 00:55:23.889
much every other unix system that's come along

00:55:23.889 --> 00:55:27.329
since then you actually can use x11 on mac os

00:55:27.329 --> 00:55:30.110
as well i think i think there's a thing called

00:55:31.250 --> 00:55:34.090
Zephyr? Something like that. I don't know. I

00:55:34.090 --> 00:55:35.630
don't remember what it's called. But there is

00:55:35.630 --> 00:55:37.710
a way you can make use of that as well. So this

00:55:37.710 --> 00:55:41.489
is like a really old protocol set that was being

00:55:41.489 --> 00:55:43.710
used for graphics. And being an old protocol

00:55:43.710 --> 00:55:46.389
set, it was designed at a very different time

00:55:46.389 --> 00:55:49.789
for using a system. Back when, you know, the

00:55:49.789 --> 00:55:51.949
original reason it was designed is universities

00:55:51.949 --> 00:55:55.889
would have a big main system and then people

00:55:55.889 --> 00:55:58.090
would connect to it from a terminal. So you didn't

00:55:58.090 --> 00:56:00.349
have these... individual personal systems you

00:56:00.349 --> 00:56:02.989
would basically be using one big computer and

00:56:02.989 --> 00:56:07.469
then remote into that um whereas wayland is a

00:56:07.469 --> 00:56:09.730
more modern approach started around the early

00:56:09.730 --> 00:56:13.510
2000s specifically designed around personal computer

00:56:13.510 --> 00:56:19.590
use and there's a lot of sort of i guess Security

00:56:19.590 --> 00:56:22.130
flaws that exist inherently in X11 because of

00:56:22.130 --> 00:56:25.869
the way it was designed, like no access control

00:56:25.869 --> 00:56:28.769
for your shortcuts, for example. So writing a

00:56:28.769 --> 00:56:32.650
keylogger on X11 takes two lines of Python code.

00:56:34.110 --> 00:56:37.010
But my only reason for being kind of wary of

00:56:37.010 --> 00:56:39.510
recommending Wayland is there are things that

00:56:39.510 --> 00:56:43.769
are still a work in progress, like... Global

00:56:43.769 --> 00:56:46.889
shortcuts for OBS. So if you want to use your

00:56:46.889 --> 00:56:49.909
key bindings in OBS when the window is not, like

00:56:49.909 --> 00:56:51.250
when you don't have the cursor over the window,

00:56:51.690 --> 00:56:54.510
that's something you'd want to have, their global

00:56:54.510 --> 00:56:57.110
shortcuts. Or you want to use push to talk in

00:56:57.110 --> 00:56:58.670
Discord, that would also be global shortcuts.

00:57:01.590 --> 00:57:04.650
Most things have gotten pretty solid, and the

00:57:04.650 --> 00:57:07.670
majority of Linux users now are using a Wayland

00:57:07.670 --> 00:57:12.860
-based environment. But... There's still those

00:57:12.860 --> 00:57:16.519
issues where things can kind of be a little bit

00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.280
rough, but by going X11, you lose out on a lot

00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:22.500
of modern display features like variable refresh

00:57:22.500 --> 00:57:25.719
rate and different refresh rates on different

00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:28.840
monitors and other things which are nice to have.

00:57:29.059 --> 00:57:31.820
So it's the better solution to go with Wayland.

00:57:31.940 --> 00:57:36.000
It's just, there's... there's like issues there

00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:37.800
that you might run into depending on the kind

00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.159
of system you're using where it makes it kind

00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:42.280
of hard to recommend it without really having

00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:44.360
a full understanding of everything else you're

00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:49.380
using but basically like um it's pretty the the

00:57:49.380 --> 00:57:52.500
tldr is it's the protocol set being used behind

00:57:52.500 --> 00:57:56.360
the graphical server so i3 runs on x11 or the

00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:59.139
implementation of it the xorg server and then

00:57:59.139 --> 00:58:02.199
sway is a re -implementation of that made to

00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:06.860
run on wayland instead hmm okay yeah mac os you

00:58:06.860 --> 00:58:08.900
don't have like a lot of different features i'm

00:58:08.900 --> 00:58:12.039
not gonna i'm i'm not used to fancy stuff so

00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:13.960
as long as i can have one application on the

00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:16.599
screen at a time and something very important

00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.440
as well is this padding section that i have here

00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:21.440
so i guess that's something that you can configure

00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.480
right so if you notice this on the right side

00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:26.800
this is the padding section of the because i

00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:29.440
use the window manager in stack mode right so

00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:32.579
This here is just the padding that I left there.

00:58:32.659 --> 00:58:34.480
So I can keep this application there all the

00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:37.360
time, right? So even if I switch to other app,

00:58:37.539 --> 00:58:40.119
that one remains there in the padding section.

00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:44.500
I have never seen a window manager on Linux do

00:58:44.500 --> 00:58:48.320
that. That's actually really cool. Yeah, but

00:58:48.320 --> 00:58:50.800
it's just the padding. It's just something that

00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:54.360
I came up with, right? Because people usually

00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.780
leave padding on the top, bottom, left, like

00:58:56.780 --> 00:59:00.969
everywhere, right? So I just left... Right, right,

00:59:01.030 --> 00:59:03.929
right. Just the padding on the right side and

00:59:03.929 --> 00:59:06.369
just put that application there manually. This

00:59:06.369 --> 00:59:08.949
is not managed by my window manager, right? So

00:59:08.949 --> 00:59:13.429
I can move it around. Because it's just, you

00:59:13.429 --> 00:59:19.769
know, laying there, basically. Right. Okay, okay.

00:59:20.329 --> 00:59:22.829
You could probably replicate something like that

00:59:22.829 --> 00:59:27.300
on i3 as well, because you can set padding. But

00:59:27.300 --> 00:59:29.559
I guess the way you would do that is you'd probably,

00:59:29.739 --> 00:59:34.079
you'd probably pin that window. So it's going

00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:36.980
to display on every workspace. Yep. I pin it.

00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:41.380
Yeah. Yeah. That would be the way I would go

00:59:41.380 --> 00:59:46.480
about that. Probably I3 then, right? Yeah, i3

00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:50.079
is pretty easy to get your head around. So if

00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:53.840
you want to learn the intricacies of a Linux

00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.079
window manager, it's very easy to configure.

00:59:56.239 --> 00:59:58.719
It's pretty well configured out of the box. It's

00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.619
very well documented. There's a lot of tutorials

01:00:01.619 --> 01:00:03.599
on how to use it if there's anything you're unsure

01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:08.500
about how to use. It has a IPC that you can use

01:00:08.500 --> 01:00:10.679
to interact with it through a programming language.

01:00:11.619 --> 01:00:14.219
It's just generally all around good. And if you

01:00:14.219 --> 01:00:16.719
then eventually want to swap over to Wayland

01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:19.400
because you learn more about how that side works

01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:20.820
and you feel like there's something there that

01:00:20.820 --> 01:00:23.059
is going to improve your experience, you can

01:00:23.059 --> 01:00:25.800
take that directly to Sway because it's one -to

01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:28.659
-one compatible. Yeah, the problem is that I'm

01:00:28.659 --> 01:00:31.139
not going to feel cool if I use i3. Everyone's

01:00:31.139 --> 01:00:33.480
talking about Wayland these days and I'm going

01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:37.099
to be making videos about i3. It's like, do you

01:00:37.099 --> 01:00:41.750
live in the 80s or something, right? So Wayland

01:00:41.750 --> 01:00:44.369
would definitely give me more content, I think.

01:00:46.190 --> 01:00:49.650
Maybe you'd stand out still using X11. There's

01:00:49.650 --> 01:00:53.389
less and less people doing so. I think most Linux

01:00:53.389 --> 01:00:56.750
YouTubers at this point, besides, like, there's

01:00:56.750 --> 01:00:59.550
a couple of people. There's one guy who, he runs

01:00:59.550 --> 01:01:03.590
Debian, runs really old window managers that

01:01:03.590 --> 01:01:05.869
came out in the 90s and haven't been updated

01:01:05.869 --> 01:01:08.869
since the 90s. So I guess you can fit right in

01:01:08.869 --> 01:01:13.610
there. Oh, I think I've seen him. Jay? Okay,

01:01:13.610 --> 01:01:14.769
I was thinking of someone else. I was thinking

01:01:14.769 --> 01:01:18.710
of Drew. Just a guy at Linux. Okay. And one of

01:01:18.710 --> 01:01:21.670
the recommendations that DT gave me for the stability

01:01:21.670 --> 01:01:24.449
that I'm looking for, he mentioned, what about

01:01:24.449 --> 01:01:27.670
Debian? Debian stable? You just use flat packs

01:01:27.670 --> 01:01:30.349
for applications that you need to run like OBS,

01:01:30.389 --> 01:01:31.969
stuff like that. What are your thoughts on that?

01:01:33.590 --> 01:01:39.539
My only concern with Debian is... how new the

01:01:39.539 --> 01:01:42.800
hardware in your system is going to be. If you

01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.900
want to run a really new GPU, you're going to

01:01:46.900 --> 01:01:49.400
run into problems in those first couple of months

01:01:49.400 --> 01:01:52.360
on Debian until updates start rolling out. If

01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:54.840
you're the kind of person who runs a generation

01:01:54.840 --> 01:02:00.519
back, it won't be a problem. But Debian... it's

01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:03.820
slow to update which means it's slow to get new

01:02:03.820 --> 01:02:07.019
hardware support so you got to be a little bit

01:02:07.019 --> 01:02:11.079
cautious about that yeah that's the next topic

01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:13.559
actually what are your thoughts because if i'm

01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:16.000
gonna build a linux machine probably i'll use

01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:17.920
something that i have laying around to start

01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:20.960
with but if i decide to take it seriously i don't

01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:23.320
want to build it myself i know hardware compatibility

01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:26.019
is not the the way that it used to be in the

01:02:26.019 --> 01:02:28.300
past, which is what was a little bit painful.

01:02:29.380 --> 01:02:32.000
I remember my first days with Ubuntu back in,

01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:34.539
I don't know, 20 years ago, right? Right, right.

01:02:34.900 --> 01:02:38.960
I would probably purchase a System76 or a Framework

01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:41.659
laptop, you know? What are your thoughts on those

01:02:41.659 --> 01:02:45.900
two companies? I've personally not used their

01:02:45.900 --> 01:02:49.659
devices. I do know a number of engineers at System76.

01:02:50.099 --> 01:02:53.039
I've had the CEO of the company on the podcast

01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:55.559
a couple of times. Really cool dude. Everyone

01:02:55.559 --> 01:03:01.059
there is great people. I think they're doing

01:03:01.059 --> 01:03:04.300
great work on the software side. I can't really

01:03:04.300 --> 01:03:06.340
comment about their hardware as I've not really

01:03:06.340 --> 01:03:10.500
used it. But System76 is basically... They're

01:03:10.500 --> 01:03:13.500
basically a... What's the word for it? White

01:03:13.500 --> 01:03:16.960
label? Is that it? Where you take existing laptops

01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:20.900
and you repackage them with new software. I install

01:03:20.900 --> 01:03:23.440
Coreboot on them and install their Linux distro

01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:25.679
and things like that. So because it has their

01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:28.699
distro on it, you kind of know that it's... Linux

01:03:28.699 --> 01:03:30.239
is going to be well -supported on this hardware.

01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:35.239
When it comes to framework... I've not spoken

01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:37.400
to anyone there. I can't really comment on that,

01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:43.360
but I do know they specifically have Linux community

01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:47.719
employees there, and they are very focused on

01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:50.199
ensuring that Linux support is good, even if

01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:51.739
that's not something they are directly offering.

01:03:52.059 --> 01:03:55.380
So everything I've heard about the company, it

01:03:55.380 --> 01:03:58.239
seems like Linux support is basically perfect.

01:03:59.059 --> 01:04:05.219
Yeah, makes sense. would probably be one of my

01:04:05.219 --> 01:04:07.320
two options. I think I would go more for the

01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:10.179
framework side of things. I'm not sure, but okay.

01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:13.260
Right, right, right. Now, the way that I share

01:04:13.260 --> 01:04:15.860
my camera, I don't have a professional camera.

01:04:15.980 --> 01:04:17.780
This is my phone, the one that I'm using right

01:04:17.780 --> 01:04:21.760
now, and macOS just recognizes it as a camera.

01:04:22.420 --> 01:04:25.980
Right. Is there... I'm not planning on buying

01:04:25.980 --> 01:04:30.230
a camera. Is there... some alternative that you

01:04:30.230 --> 01:04:34.070
know of in Linux that you can do something kind

01:04:34.070 --> 01:04:38.309
of similar? Probably the easiest thing you can

01:04:38.309 --> 01:04:42.110
do is, even though it's called this, it works

01:04:42.110 --> 01:04:44.610
on iOS as well, there is an app called DroidCam.

01:04:45.670 --> 01:04:50.510
You can use that and either over Wi -Fi or plugged

01:04:50.510 --> 01:04:54.559
into a system. use that as your camera it's i

01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:58.199
don't know how quality is gonna be i i don't

01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:00.820
use droid cam myself anymore i've used it for

01:05:00.820 --> 01:05:03.940
a couple of things here and there um but i always

01:05:03.940 --> 01:05:08.039
use the free version which had a 480p limit to

01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:10.039
it i think the paid version is like three dollars

01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:11.880
or something like that so it's not like a big

01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:16.880
expense um so i can't really comment on that

01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:19.280
for the ios ecosystem there's definitely ways

01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:23.239
you can do it Is it going to be the quality you

01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:28.320
get from, like, the macOS 4 integration? Probably

01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:33.360
not, but it's something you can test. Okay, okay,

01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:36.679
thank you. And window manager, well, we already

01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:39.820
talked about that. You prefer BSP, more right

01:05:39.820 --> 01:05:45.460
tilings. And monitors, are you a single monitor

01:05:45.460 --> 01:05:48.559
guy or multiple ones? I have three monitors.

01:05:51.050 --> 01:05:54.769
My layout's kind of weird. My main monitor is

01:05:54.769 --> 01:05:56.389
a horizontal monitor because, obviously, you

01:05:56.389 --> 01:05:58.170
need a horizontal monitor because it's a computer.

01:05:58.409 --> 01:06:00.809
I've got a vertical monitor off to my side here.

01:06:00.849 --> 01:06:03.449
This is usually where my Discord is, where my

01:06:03.449 --> 01:06:06.769
emails are, various Twitter feed, things that

01:06:06.769 --> 01:06:10.769
take up a lot of vertical space. I also have

01:06:10.769 --> 01:06:14.659
a third monitor, which is actually... half behind

01:06:14.659 --> 01:06:17.280
my main monitor where i can only see the top

01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:19.639
half of it so i'm effectively looking at a square

01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:23.300
and that is my glorified teleprompter i could

01:06:23.300 --> 01:06:25.920
use an actual teleprompter but i just put my

01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:29.280
notes right next to my camera so if you ever

01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:31.219
watch my videos and you notice i'm looking like

01:06:31.219 --> 01:06:35.500
slightly off from where the camera is um yeah

01:06:35.500 --> 01:06:38.380
i'm looking at my notes Oh, and do you read like

01:06:38.380 --> 01:06:41.400
the entire video? Like it's all written or do

01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:43.539
you improvise in your videos? Like the new stuff

01:06:43.539 --> 01:06:47.900
that you go over? Um, it's gotten more scripted

01:06:47.900 --> 01:06:50.480
as I've gone on, but I don't really follow the

01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:55.079
script in a lot of cases. So I kind of use what's

01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:58.619
there to hit each point that is important. And

01:06:58.619 --> 01:07:01.260
then I usually fill in the gaps as I'm going.

01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:06.059
Okay. Okay. Great. And what terminal? do you

01:07:06.059 --> 01:07:10.480
use? I currently I'm using alacrity, but I have

01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:14.380
used ghosty a couple of times. It's cool. Like

01:07:14.380 --> 01:07:17.659
I get it. It's, it's, it's, it's cool. Um, I've

01:07:17.659 --> 01:07:21.300
used ST, I've used console, I've used tons of

01:07:21.300 --> 01:07:23.719
terminals, but I always just fall back onto alacrity.

01:07:24.179 --> 01:07:30.000
Yeah. And is there a reason? Um, honestly, I

01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:33.599
have a good config for it. I have a bunch of

01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:37.320
keybinds for it that work nice. I've got it nicely

01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:40.159
configured. I've got it themed the way I want

01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:42.440
it to be. So every time I try something out,

01:07:42.500 --> 01:07:44.920
I'm like, yeah, this is nice, but now I'm going

01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:48.199
to move my alacrity config over. Okay. Okay.

01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:50.519
Makes sense. And what about your keyboard? Do

01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:53.139
you use a special keyboard or what do you use?

01:07:54.300 --> 01:08:02.000
Can we show it? There we go. There we go. I have

01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:06.699
a Logitech G915. It has low profile switches.

01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:10.079
If you look up the price for it, I did not pay

01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:12.139
the full price for it. I got it half price during

01:08:12.139 --> 01:08:17.710
Black Friday. I just have a lot of Logitech hardware

01:08:17.710 --> 01:08:20.310
here, like a Logitech mouse here. I've got another

01:08:20.310 --> 01:08:24.609
Logitech mouse. I like Logitech gear. Oftentimes

01:08:24.609 --> 01:08:27.890
you don't have official configuration support

01:08:27.890 --> 01:08:31.050
for software on Linux, but Logitech has a lot

01:08:31.050 --> 01:08:34.550
of community support. So I'm pretty much, I'm

01:08:34.550 --> 01:08:37.250
happy with Logitech gear. I've always liked Logitech

01:08:37.250 --> 01:08:39.390
gear and I can configure it on Linux. So I'm

01:08:39.390 --> 01:08:42.609
kind of happy. Have you thought about split keyboards?

01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:50.260
I have. I have bad typing habits. So when I try

01:08:50.260 --> 01:08:53.380
a split keyboard, it takes me a lot of time to

01:08:53.380 --> 01:08:58.920
really get comfortable using it. So it's just

01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:00.859
never really been something I've stuck with.

01:09:01.460 --> 01:09:04.180
Okay. And which layout do you use? Is it QWERTY

01:09:04.180 --> 01:09:07.079
or something else? Yeah, I just use QWERTY. Okay.

01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:10.239
Normal, regular person. Yeah, I use QWERTY too.

01:09:11.710 --> 01:09:15.550
Yep. And what about Homelab? Do you have a Homelab?

01:09:15.569 --> 01:09:18.949
What are your thoughts there? I've definitely

01:09:18.949 --> 01:09:20.989
considered messing around with some stuff. Not

01:09:20.989 --> 01:09:27.510
at this point. Not a Homelab, I have a VPS for

01:09:27.510 --> 01:09:31.729
my website and things like that. But I know there's

01:09:31.729 --> 01:09:33.449
a lot of other people and DT is probably a great

01:09:33.449 --> 01:09:36.390
example there with his giant audio server and

01:09:36.390 --> 01:09:38.479
a bunch of other... a bunch of other fun stuff.

01:09:38.699 --> 01:09:41.539
I don't really have anything in that way. I've

01:09:41.539 --> 01:09:45.979
got a four -port switch under my bed. That's

01:09:45.979 --> 01:09:50.939
my own lab. Okay, okay. And what are your thoughts

01:09:50.939 --> 01:09:54.460
on AI? We're almost done here with the questions.

01:09:54.659 --> 01:09:58.279
What are your thoughts? Are you in favor of AI

01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:03.199
or are you on the complete other side? I think

01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:06.220
there's definitely use cases for it. like you

01:10:06.220 --> 01:10:08.600
know medical imaging dealing with x -rays things

01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.239
like that i use whisper to generate subtitles

01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:14.800
for my videos and then i modify those by hand

01:10:14.800 --> 01:10:16.500
so i definitely think they're at their their

01:10:16.500 --> 01:10:19.279
use cases for it um but i feel like a lot of

01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:22.680
things it's kind of just like how do we eliminate

01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:26.460
as much human element to it as possible how do

01:10:26.460 --> 01:10:31.800
we make it as cheap and easy as possible rather

01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:34.439
than worrying about necessarily the quality but

01:10:34.439 --> 01:10:36.039
quality is getting there and that's that's the

01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.680
scary part where especially if you look at like

01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:42.500
modern demos like vo3 with um modern video generation

01:10:42.500 --> 01:10:45.359
and audio generation at the same time it's like

01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:48.840
scary good and i think the big concern that i

01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:52.680
have is how easy it is to scam people now who

01:10:52.680 --> 01:10:56.220
are not very sort of tech savvy it was already

01:10:56.220 --> 01:10:59.279
pretty easy with early stuff now you could now

01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:02.119
it's basically Almost perfect for someone who

01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:04.399
has no idea what they're looking at. Yeah, especially

01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:08.279
they have our face, our voice in hundreds of

01:11:08.279 --> 01:11:14.520
videos. So, you know. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Are you

01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.340
working on any projects at the moment that you

01:11:17.340 --> 01:11:22.680
want to share? It's a bit of a very early pre

01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:24.500
-alpha right now, but I've gotten into doing

01:11:24.500 --> 01:11:26.699
some game development stuff recently. I've been

01:11:26.699 --> 01:11:29.689
working with the Godot game engine. working on

01:11:29.689 --> 01:11:31.829
a little platformer. I've kind of always enjoyed

01:11:31.829 --> 01:11:34.470
doing game development. It's super early right

01:11:34.470 --> 01:11:38.430
now. Basically, it's pretty much just built off

01:11:38.430 --> 01:11:41.270
of the Brackeys Godot tutorial. So there's not

01:11:41.270 --> 01:11:43.609
really anything to show there. It's still using

01:11:43.609 --> 01:11:45.470
all of the placeholder sprites and all that.

01:11:46.729 --> 01:11:49.109
But yeah, that's the main thing I'm doing right

01:11:49.109 --> 01:11:53.670
now. I've picked up projects here and there along

01:11:53.670 --> 01:11:55.329
the way and kind of just dropped them. But this

01:11:55.329 --> 01:11:58.630
one's sticking with me, at least for now. Okay,

01:11:58.649 --> 01:12:00.850
and where do you share that? In your main YouTube

01:12:00.850 --> 01:12:04.569
channel or in a separate one? Right now, I haven't

01:12:04.569 --> 01:12:08.430
actually made any videos on it, but I don't know

01:12:08.430 --> 01:12:09.590
where I'm going to put it, actually. I'll work

01:12:09.590 --> 01:12:11.630
that out when we get there. Okay, wonderful.

01:12:12.210 --> 01:12:14.250
And the last stuff that I have here, the last

01:12:14.250 --> 01:12:17.869
question is, what's your experience with the

01:12:17.869 --> 01:12:22.869
open source community? What's your take on it?

01:12:22.949 --> 01:12:25.449
Is it aggressive? Have you had bad experiences?

01:12:25.729 --> 01:12:28.579
What's your overall take on it? an open source

01:12:28.579 --> 01:12:31.319
and dealing with the community and that stuff

01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:35.680
i think the majority of people are genuinely

01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:38.960
just trying to make something cool like they

01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:41.119
they make something cool that they personally

01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:44.979
want and they share it and you know people also

01:12:44.979 --> 01:12:47.460
like the idea and they keep up with it and that's

01:12:47.460 --> 01:12:50.399
that's awesome i do think there are certain communities

01:12:50.399 --> 01:12:53.140
and certain subsets of certain communities where

01:12:53.140 --> 01:12:59.199
i guess they've been in they've got a lot of

01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:01.460
attention for a long time and kind of feel like

01:13:01.460 --> 01:13:04.600
they're a lot more important than they really

01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:08.319
are and kind of let that like position of like

01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:10.520
a de facto standard go to their head in some

01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:13.439
cases not everyone in these projects for sure

01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:16.960
but there's definitely like everything you get

01:13:16.960 --> 01:13:19.100
involved in whether it's gaming whether it's

01:13:19.100 --> 01:13:21.819
sport whether it's anything else there's always

01:13:21.819 --> 01:13:25.760
going to be people you meet who are like You're

01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:27.880
not a good person. I don't want to be around

01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:31.159
you any longer. But I think the majority of people

01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:37.279
just want to do something cool. Okay, okay. Wonderful.

01:13:37.899 --> 01:13:41.260
All right, Brody, so I'm just going to share

01:13:41.260 --> 01:13:46.779
your channel here on my screen. Well, I guess

01:13:46.779 --> 01:13:49.739
probably all of my subscribers are already subscribed

01:13:49.739 --> 01:13:52.770
to your channel because I just have a few. So

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I'm going to leave your links in the video description,

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YouTube channel. Are there any other links that

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I should leave there? There's lots of links you

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could leave there, but the channel is going to

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have all of the links to places I use, even links

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I don't use anymore, like the Odyssey, which

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I haven't uploaded to in a long time, or the

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Instagram, which I don't use, or the Matrix,

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which is... Three years dead. I need to update

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those links at some point. I need to get around

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to that one. But yeah, no, that the YouTube and

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the podcast, pretty much the main things and

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everything else you can get to from those points.

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Okay, wonderful. So again, really appreciate

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your time, you know, for sharing with us. I had

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a lot of questions. It helped a lot and hope

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to see you next time. Absolute pleasure. I enjoyed

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it. Okay. Bye.