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everyone, I have a special guest today, Linux
DevLabs. How are you doing today, man? I'm doing
pretty good, man. Thanks for having me on here.
It's a real honor. I've been watching you for
a while, and I'm really excited about this. Yeah.
I'm subscribed to your channel as well. I don't
know how it showed up in my feed, subscribed,
and I was like, interesting. But this guy has
to say, you know, and my content is mainly macOS
related, but, you know. Well, I first saw you
when you did that. uh neovim obsidian video the
markdown video and i sent you a tweet and then
uh you responded we kind of like went back and
forth and then like one day i was up really early
in the morning because i'd been teaching english
all night and you were doing a live stream then
we kind of chatted oh yeah playing skyrim i remember
right yeah yeah i think so yeah yeah so Before
we continue, just so that people can understand,
we have on the call today, Linux Dev Labs has
a YouTube channel, a lot of different videos,
157 videos as of today. I'm not signed in at
the moment. I'm using a private window, but I
do watch your videos. Just in case you don't
see that they're watched. here right now okay
no no i got you i got yeah yeah yeah i i get
a lot of heat sometimes with some of my videos
like the one with the utils last week oh why
well because like in the linux movement there's
like a civil war going on between like the fsf
and everyone else basically yeah fsf like they're
very purist when it comes to like open source
so it's like um the only way you could actually
have a respect open source the way that gpl3
had it in tinder the fsf had intended is like
to have a 14 year old laptop basically Because
the hardware won't work. You won't have NVIDIA
drivers. You won't have anything. And so a lot
of people, they have a lot of disagreements with
that. I like the way the licenses are defined.
I want them to stay the same. I'm not a purist.
I'm not. But I do care about it. Yeah, no, I'm
not an open source purist. I mean, I got an NVIDIA
graphics card, so I need a proprietary driver
for that. So I'm not a purist. But I want the
definitions to stay the same because then there's
like... Because it just seems like they'll murky
up the waters with the big corporations. Right
now, Microsoft is the biggest contributor to
the Linux Foundation right now. So that's actually
very problematic to me, actually. I mean, it's
cool that they're giving us money, right? I think
that's cool. But at the same time, it's like,
OK, so they're giving us money for what exactly?
And like, what do we have to do in return? That's
my main concern. All right. And why did you say
that your computer has to be quite old so you
cannot have any proprietary software if you're?
Yeah, the hardware will work. No drivers? Nothing,
right? Well, you'll have drivers, but the only
drivers that will work is a really old, like,
ThinkPad or something. Oh, yeah. I see. Yeah.
I see. And then, like, you would take the BIOS
out and install LibreBoot in those nine yards.
It's, like, really involved. I'm not there. But
I do want the licenses to stay the same. Well,
uutils is replacing like core utils, diff utils,
that sort of thing. And they're doing it with
an MIT license. And you're like that close to
the kernel and you're using an MIT license of
a GPL 3 .0 license or even just even a lesser
GPL license. So this is the rewrite that Ubuntu
did for the core utils, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
So the community is not into that? You're basically
not into that, right? No, I'm not. Not at all.
Just like I said in the video, I smell a rat.
Okay. I see. I do. I smell a rat. And, you know,
maybe it's all innocuous. You know, maybe like
I'm overblowing this. Well, see, the thing is,
is if they have an MIT license, then they can
closed source it in the future. That's the risk.
Okay. See, with a GPL3 license, they can never
close source it. Everything has to stay open
source. This is what happened with BSD. This
is one of the reasons why I hate Mac. Yeah. So
as long as distributions don't use those utils,
they should be good, right? Yeah. Yeah, but they
will. I'm almost certain Fedora will adopt it.
I'm certain. I don't know. OpenSUSE is iffy.
Arch is kind of iffy. Debian, maybe. But a lot
of distributions are going to adopt that. Because
it's written in Rust and it's safer. And it's
like, it's core utils. Who cares if it's written
in C? Seriously, when it comes to memory management,
people need to know this. They're not developers,
so they don't know this. They hear these buzzwords
that it's safer, right? Here's the thing. Even
in C, yeah, we don't have memory management built
in, but there's things that we can do to make
memory management like a reality. And they certainly
did that. I'm sure of that. So like, it's all
just a bunch of mental gymnastics as far as I'm
concerned. Okay. Interesting. All right. We jumped
into topics already. Yeah. Shooting. Shots fired
already. You couldn't resist, right? You couldn't
wait. No, not really. But, like, that's why I'm
saying I get a lot of heat from it because there's
that other side that hates everything I'm saying.
The other day when I basically outed Christian
Perso, the canone. because of some horrid coding
practices and the fact that I got into a fight
with him personally, I think. I'm pretty sure
it was him. I'm not positive, but it was somebody.
All I did was ask to revisit an issue so that
I could close my XFCE terminal and not have it
wait three seconds. Before closing. That was
it. That's it, Dad. I'm a pretty easy guy to
get along with, I think. We'll see. We expect
to see a lot of drama in the video, I think,
right? Yeah. Actually, I'm easy to get along
with. When people understand kind of how I'm
wired, they usually adapt pretty good to me.
They just don't understand how I'm wired. And
so they think like that I'm just like this person
who's like out attacking everybody. That's not
the case. Yeah. Yeah. So that's actually the
reason for this call. You know, the topics, the
topic, as you can see here is Linux versus Mac
OS. It's not like that, you know, but we just
want to share the different points of view. Right.
I talk about Mac OS in my channel. all the time
that's all i talk about so i want to have a different
perspective as well you know so viewers can see
you know different point of views as well i don't
want just stuff to be just mac os related just
want to you know hear what other people have
to say and learn of course right yeah yeah no
for sure i actually appreciate that you know
like anybody will take the time to like talk
with me for for an hour i Totally appreciate
that. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Thanks to you for coming,
man. Thanks to you for coming. Oh, I would have
done that any day of the week. Yeah, absolutely.
All right. So we already saw where we can find
you. I already shared your YouTube channel. You
want to share a little bit more about you, who
you are, all that stuff? Anything you want to
share? Yeah, sure. So anyway, my name is Shastan.
I grew up in Alaska. And when I was about 20
years old, I went to trade school. And in trade
school, I kind of started learning Spanish. And
then a couple of years later, I ended up moving
to Mexico. And I work both as like a like a web
developer slash sysadmin. And I also teach English
at night. All right. All right. And how long
have you been living in Mexico? And why? Like
people, people's after the American dream. Were
you after the Mexican dream or something or?
That's a good question. So I think I was up for
like an adventure because like when I was younger,
I was. I literally was like hell on wheels, right?
Like as a teenager, I was in drug into drugs
and alcohol and stuff. And I just I needed to
kind of reinvent myself. And so when I went to
my and this is probably the part that, you know.
When I went to trade school, my best friend was
an ex -gang leader, and he became a Christian.
And he took me to the Spanish -speaking church.
And that was my exposure to the whole Spanish
-speaking world initially. Actually, I had very
little exposure to anything Spanish -related.
And so, anyway. I learned to read Spanish really
quick, you know, like back in the day, like this
is before maybe some of your viewers were even
alive, but that we used to have what were called
overhead projectors, right? You'd put like this
little clear piece of paper or clear plastic
thing on the projector and it would project it
on the wall. And so they would like sing their
Spanish songs and I'd sit there and read them.
And then I learned to pronounce like the words.
And then I realized I'm not that bad at pronouncing
the words. And then it was kind of funny because
then after that, I started trying to learn to
speak Spanish. And so I was like, OK, so I'll
take all the words I know in English. I'll learn
them in Spanish and I'll try and say them like
I would say them in English. So that doesn't
exactly work. So I found out really quickly.
And then I realized really early on, too, that
if I spoke Spanish, I actually learned way more
than if I was sitting there in a book. I spoke
it as often as possible. And so then for about
like two or three years, I was really into it.
And, you know, I was kind of basically like raised.
I guess what you would call white trash. So this
was something new for me. And it was like it
would like bump me up a little bit above like
the proverbial white trash, so to speak. Oh,
I see. And you moved to Mexico then around your
20s, something like that, right? Yeah, I was
23 when I arrived in Mexico. I met my wife right
before I turned 24. We got married the following
year. That was a whole interesting thing, like
the whole like cross cultures and things like
that. It was really interesting. It was an eye
opener. Did you get used to Mexican food already?
Spicy stuff? Oh, absolutely. You like beans?
Yeah. Yeah. Refried beans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Like, you know, eating like pozole or like carnitas
or something like that. Yeah. I really like I
have to have something like that, like at least
once a week. And whenever I go back to the States,
I like eat the food like I'll go to a restaurant
and eat the food and the food's just bland. It's
just like. uh i can't i i like after about two
weeks i gotta go home man i'm like i i i'm hating
this yeah so you're even even yeah even when
i'm like it's funny like people and maybe you'll
see why kind of your viewers might see why i'm
a little opinionated but even when i'm in the
line waiting to go through customs like i have
like this like like this jerk like something's
jerking me back to just turn and walk 180 degrees
the other way because i it's just there's like
this unspoken thing i was like i don't like this
then once i get past customs i'm okay but yeah
so you consider yourself more mexican then then
yeah yeah yeah oh okay nice all right and why
did you um decide to get started with youtube
and when did this happen so i originally so i've
had two previous channels on the same thing one
i had in spanish to exert 76 and then i had one
even before that and both times i I kind of quit
right before I got monetized. And I kept seeing
all of these people that I watch now, and they're
all monetized, making a lot of money. One, for
example, is DistroTube. I've been on his stream
before on my first channel. I've been on his
stream, and in fact, I'm the one that kind of,
I was kind of coaching him along to install Arch
Linux in a virtual machine. Back then? Yeah,
back then. This was 2017. Okay. I had one of
the first videos on how to install Arch Linux.
That was like 2015 -ish. It was one of the first
videos out how to install Arch Linux. Now it's
like a dime a dozen. They're everywhere. Initially,
I talked about things like Slackware, how to
install Slackware, how to install the packages
because you have to install everything from source
on Slackware. yeah it's just yeah it's it's kind
of it you know so i just quit and i just like
so when i started learning development i was
like well there's two things man like one this
is kind of a resume i am showing people some
things that i know okay yeah and the other part
is You know, I'm kind of creating a brand for
myself. Kind of like you, you're creating a brand
for yourself, right? With the whole NeoVim, Tmux,
browser space. You're creating a real niche,
I think. A name for yourself, right? Just something,
I don't know where it's going, but we'll see
what happens in a few years, right? All right.
Interesting. And yeah, you go down the rabbit
hole and get into Emacs or something. Yeah, I
already did. You know, yesterday I recorded a
video with Josh. Oh, yeah. Emacs, the second
video that I recorded about Emacs. He helped
me go through art mode and stuff. So, yeah, I
just want to have a different perspective as
well. You know, it's not doesn't have to be just
Neobim. I want to see what's out there, see what
I like the best and, you know, just share it
with people. Yeah. Yeah. And you had a different
name on your YouTube channel, right? Why did
you change it? Oh, right. So, yeah, I so like
that was kind of a kind of a squirrely deal.
I thought about Tinkerbell Linux and I didn't
know that that Tinkerbell had been had a copyright
on it. Oh, OK. And so I was kind of forced to
change. Okay. Long story short then. Okay. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. You live and learn. I actually thought
it was fairly innocuous what I was doing. I thought
it was really obvious. And the other thing was
I tried for a couple of videos. I just wanted
to see how it would take if I did like... animation
type you know like cartoon character type um
characters and then just like you know tell the
story behind it and some people got it and thought
it was really funny and others didn't get it
so much okay but my watch time went way down
and uh although there was like three or four
people go man that was so funny i can't believe
you did that yeah but most didn't like it okay
yeah interesting so this is yeah It's Linux dev
labs now, right? Yeah. Yes. All right. All right.
And, um, okay. So would you mind sharing two
of your favorite music bands just to know a little
bit more on that side? Um, well, I'm an eighties
kid and grew up in the like stoner area era.
So Metallica has to be there. Um, you know, um,
i'm a big fan of aussie like when randy rhodes
was around oh yeah that just like two albums
so like aussie doesn't really i'm not a big fan
of like zach wilde that much like he had a couple
good songs but no not really what's the name
of the song uh aussie and um randy rhodes i remember
his guitar Mr. Crowley? Mr. Crowley, yeah. Wonderful
solo, man. Yeah, it is, man. It's like, wow,
yo. It's so terrible that he died way before
his time. But anyway, I like a lot of 70s music.
I like Hendrix, for example, a lot. Pink Floyd
is pretty good. Yeah, I like 70s and 80s music.
You like Deep Purple? Yeah, I like them. I mean,
they're not my top, you know, but I listen to
them, yeah, for sure. We're into the same type
of music, I think. I like 70s, 80s music. I'm
just tired of searching for music that I just
tell, you know, Alexa to play Earth, Wind & Fire,
for example, and it just plays. Bunny M. I like
Bunny M as well. You know, that sort of music.
But I used to be in metal a lot when I was younger.
I was living the crazy life as well. I was doing
alcohol and all that stuff, you know. So a lot
of metal back then. But now not much anymore.
Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of funny, you know, like
when you finally grow up, if you survive that.
Especially if you're doing the sex, drugs, and
rock and roll thing. You actually survive that.
Because a lot of people don't. Some of my friends
didn't survive, unfortunately. If you survive
it, a lot of times you just start thinking a
little differently about things. Then your music
tastes change. You know, it's funny, you know,
when you're talking about music, like, I mean,
I like Tracy Chapman. Like, she is so... awesome
she has like this voice that her like nothing
on the guitar really like stands out to me i'm
not like hey you know but that voice is something
special like okay you know um you know and sometimes
like when i'm coding or when i'm you know you
know working on my computer a lot of times Uh,
what, uh, I will just listen to like, uh, like
jazz music or blues or something like that. Yeah.
Yep. I like listening to that as well. You know,
I don't have a, I used to be a metal head and
was just metal. If not, you were not a true metal
head. But now, no, um, I'm not open to any of
the new genres like reggaeton and all that stuff.
No. no me neither reggaeton is hot trash also
like the banda corri i mean the narco corridos
and all that that crap i hate that stuff yeah
i hate that stuff with a passion and like all
of my neighbors play that non -stop oh yeah especially
if you live in mexico or for sure yeah yeah and
what would you say two of your favorite movies
are you can name two Yeah, well, Matrix has to
be the first one. I love that movie. Okay, the
first one. Like, the whole series, but, you know,
especially the first one. It's like, it kind
of, like, I kind of realized, like, some of this,
like, that's going around us isn't as real as
we'd like to think it is. Like, even though,
like, so it was like. almost it was very surreal
how they put that together and and stuff then
there was um let's see here i like back to the
future is good i think maybe something like that
or shawshank redemption oh yeah yeah i like that
there's a few others that i really like as well
but yeah Yeah, I watch that every once in a while.
And I just think that was like the coolest movie
ever. Like, yeah, I guess for some reason, that's
the number one played movie on TNT. Shawshank
Redemption. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's for, we could
say not for old people, but for people getting
to that age. I like it too. I watched it. Good
movie. Yeah. Yeah. And are you into video games?
Not really. No? I sometimes play like a little
bit of video games on my live stream sometimes,
very rarely. But every once in a while, like
I've been kind of thinking like doing my live
streams, maybe I should play a few more video
games. But I'm not like a big video game person.
And the reason why is like a lot of the shooter
games, those would probably be the ones I would
like. They make me dizzy. Yeah. They make me
motion sick, man. Because I don't have any control
over the movements. I still haven't figured it
out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it, yeah. Yeah,
I get motion sick. I'm like, yeah, I don't want
to do that for a while. And then I get the great
idea that I want to try it again, and I get motion
sickness again. And you're just saying, no, it's
not for me anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I know
people that are my age. How old are you, by the
way, if you want to share that? No, not a problem.
49. 49? Okay. Yeah. You're not old. Yeah. Well,
I've already had open -heart surgery, so I'm
old enough. That was my 47th birthday present.
They were like, yeah, happy birthday, and you
need surgery now. Oh, man. Yeah, they were like,
sí o sí. Oh, really? Like, a huevo. But you got
better after the surgery? Oh, yeah, I got really
good. Yeah, actually, it's a miracle because...
I started having symptoms of angina, and then
I asked my dad about it because he's an emergency
room nurse, or he was. And he also knows a lot
about cardiology and that sort of thing. And
so I told him about the symptoms I was having
when I was out riding my bike, and he was like,
that's angina. He's like, you need to get to
a cardiologist. oh really yeah and so then when
i went and got my angiogram which is basically
they like shove this tube in your in your um
in your artery and they pump a bunch of dye inside
of your bloodstream to see what's going on around
your heart like a green color or something like
that right yeah and so then they realized there's
a 99 blockage oh really yeah oh But they uncluttered
that and you're good now? Well, they did a bypass.
So they did a quadruple bypass. They just took
like the artery out of my arm and vein is out
of my legs. And why is that? Too much cholesterol?
No, cholesterol is not a bad thing. It wasn't.
It's hereditary. Oh, I see. In my family, we
have heart disease. We don't have cancer. Oh,
heart disease, okay. It's like pretty much everyone
in my family, like both of my grandfathers, for
example, had heart disease. My grandfather on
my mom's side, he had the same surgery when he
was 53. Okay. very very it's just hereditary
i think okay okay but it's good to hear that
you're better now yeah yeah moving on then to
the next topic um what's your tool for note taking
do you take any notes or oh yeah um so i i use
neovim i kind of like you do except i actually
do use the obsidian .nvim and then i wrote a
bunch of scripts for it okay So you use Neopim
mainly for, and is it Markdown or you use a different
format? No, Markdown. Markdown and Neopim. Okay,
great. Yeah. And, uh -huh. Yeah, so, yeah, I
just wrote a bunch of scripts, like, basically,
actually, let's see here. I can probably share
my screen if I can get over here. All right.
Right here. Let's see here. like if i come in
here i have a bunch of aliases as well that i
use for bash because i still use i use bash i'm
not a zsh person okay like if i do oh sorry all
right if i do like um this i can write a new
note and so now i have like say i wanted to write
my if i can see pithy notes and then i come in
here i got a bunch of stuff here i usually just
delete this stuff but like i have the tags here
so i can have um my pithy tags and so then later
on when i want to um let's see if this will work
it won't work because there's something going
on here i haven't i've just uh updated my system
and there's something going on with that but
i can actually use the fuzzy finder to um to
you know like access all of my tags and i can
get really quickly i can find whatever it is
that i'm looking for and i have a lot of other
scripts like i have scripts for uh like um like
it will list all of the uh header one and header
two like in a preview on the top When I'm done
writing my notes and things like that, I have
a lot of that kind of stuff. Oh, interesting.
Yeah. But I basically, like, if I do... So I'm
using Astro right now. That's what I landed on
because... I like Folky and, what is it, Lazy
and Vim, but it's just too much. Like, I would
have to, like, gut it to actually be able to
use it quite a bit. So, oh, wait. I went one
too far. Okay. I guess I could have just, yeah,
could have done something else. So here's all
of my. Um, like the one like done, I move all
of my, um, all of my to do stuff that's done
to a different folder. And then I write like
a journal, like detailing everything that I've
done for the week or whatever fold as I have
a special folding the way I like to fold it.
And so, like, I like to fold it, but I like to
be the one that controls that a little bit more.
So I wrote a script for that. And this is the
fold, the markdown headings? Yeah. Yeah. Well,
it's not. Yeah, it's the markdown. And even when
I'm writing code and stuff. So let me see here.
Let me. All right, so now I have this bad habit
of closing my screen because I used NeoVim with
Plug for so many years, and setting up buffers
was harder than just closing the window back
in the day. So let's see here. I have word wrap.
So now that wraps the word. So if I so like in
my markdown text, I have word wrap. And so I
set that up. And what else did I do? Config folders
of this list, the config folders. That's in my.
That's in my .config file, so I can have really
quick access to them. And let's see, my notes,
just basically like I said. Then I have this
one, which is good because a lot of times when
I'm... A lot of times when... i am coding like
if i'm writing a django app so if i do i think
it's now i have a floating terminal and now like
if i had like python i guess it would be python
3 manage pi run server and then it would run
in the background and then i can Then I can close
it and it's running in the background. So I like
that because it will run in the background while
I'm doing the coding and it's out of my way.
Okay. Interesting. Okay. But then mainly your
note taking is Neobim then and you have your
own scripts to manage stuff. your weekly notes
headings and all that okay yeah yeah actually
i showed you a lot more than that i guess huh
yeah that's fine it's fine it's gonna be a long
video so if there's someone watching just get
ready and um what's your current uh your current
operating system what are you using right now
okay so that's really interesting i'm using um
aurora linux and so this is part of the ublue
series and basically the cool part about this
is is that the core is immutable or almost immutable
like you have to ask really really nicely if
you want to add anything to the core and uh but
they give you like flat packs to install the
stuff They also give you distro boxes. This is
my favorite containerization tool, for example.
Let's see if I can find it. Oh, it's right here.
It's called BoxBuddy. You can just spin up a
version of Arch Linux. make that a little bit
bigger and so like you can spin up like a version
of like arch linux or alpine or whatever your
distro of choice is you know to install like
a package or install like a an application so
say like you like gimp 3 and how like arch linux
packages it basically you can like install it
from arch linux and then it will show up right
here in the right here in the menu okay so is
this box buddy is it like a docker that allows
it is darker yeah but it's not docker it's something
else that allows you to run containers basically
or no it is yeah it's just a gui around like
a bunch of docker images and podman images but
yeah okay but you don't have to install docker
you just install box buddy Actually, this comes
right with the distro, actually. They give you
a lot of stuff. They even give you homebrew in
this distro, which is wild to me. Okay. Yeah,
so there's like BoxBuddy. They give you Homebrew
to install things. Then you can use like RPM
OS tree. That's how you install it to the core,
which I don't recommend. And then unless you
absolutely have to, I had to install a couple
of things to make things work. And then I'm still
getting used to it because like there's this
whole thing between we're in this weird transition
between Wayland and X. Or Xorg, basically. So
that's the window compositing and a bunch of
other things. So Xorg basically handles all of
your peripheral devices, including your screen
and things like that. And Wayland is going to
replace it, but it's a little safer, as they
say. I don't know. I have mixed feelings. Like
I can see the logic behind what they're doing,
but it's part of that civil war I was talking
about. Like everybody's like, so I'm getting
used to like everything on Wayland now on a Wayland
desktop. But anyway, it's, it's pretty cool.
But yeah, I have a lot of other cool things though,
but a lot of cool stuff that I'm, you know i've
been doing um with that but um anyway that yeah
pretty much i've been using aurora linux or linux
for how long for you a couple weeks a couple
weeks so you just tried different just barely
switched yeah yeah you just wiped um or you create
new partitions or wipe everything and just install
the new distro i just wiped it yeah yeah and
isn't that a lot of work like It was. It took
me a couple of days. I basically pushed everything
off to a different hard drive, wiped it, reinstalled
it. But you like doing that, right? That's something
that you... Yeah, I don't do it very often, but
I was looking at this distro and I was just so
floored by some of the technology. Like, they
have... a lot of different technologies for developers
that i would use so i said i gotta try this out
this is and i think this is the this is the future
of linux because this distro is cloud native
you as a kubernetes guy you'll understand this
but like when i want to change like a desktop
environment or change like fundamentally change
the system I do it through a Docker image. Like
I pull it down a Docker image, it respends a
brand new image that installs to the main core
of my system. Oh, interesting. So everything
is container related. If I want to install NeoVim,
I can do it through a Docker container? Yeah.
In Aura Linux? Yeah. And that's the way you have
NeoVim installed, right? i think so yeah i think
actually i used homebrew to install neovim but
okay but there are multiple containers that you
can install directly and the apps run and they
work fine right yeah yeah i had some problems
but um like for example um let's see here so
that's like the main goal of this distribution
to have stuff containerized right yes instead
of uh flat packs i think they're called right
and um i don't know the traditional way of installing
packages you do it as containers yes i like that
idea i i do too i i like the idea in theory But
it kind of ties your hands a little bit. So like
there's one other thing about like in my NeoVim
configuration took me forever to figure this
out. So I'll show it really quick. Oh, no. So
this is part of my second brain that I have for
note taking. I have another cool thing that I
set up. And I actually have to get my Arch box.
I forgot. This one was hard to figure out for
me. So you just start a container that is running
Arch? So you're basically running Arch as a container
in your computer, right? Yeah. Okay, got it.
Yeah, and the only reason why is because... There
was a weird update to Pandoc that didn't allow
me to do something. So if I go... Can everybody
see that? Yep. Or do I need to make... Okay,
got it. All right. Let me see here. Just don't
open that Chrome passwords, that CSV file you
have there. No, no, God, no. yeah i had to yeah
that was a whole nother thing so say i want to
um i can go okay i'm gonna open something up
i don't know what i got here so if i hit f4 so
now if i hit f4 I have, and this actually is
very handy. So, like, basically, like, I can
see how it will be on my page live. This is a
PDF viewer right next to me. And this is something
that I set up. It took me forever to figure this
out, but I finally did it. Okay. So, yeah. To
preview your markdown file, right? Yeah, in a
PDF format. And can you see the headings? Can
you see what's inside the headings or there's...
No, I won't see what's inside the headings. I'll
just see what the document. Oh, okay. I see.
Okay. Yeah. Something like that. And then, so,
and then they're side by side and I could be
taking my notes and they populate. It has a little
bit of latency. It's like 10 seconds, but I can
see within 10 seconds, I can see like how everything's
going to look. Have you tried this one? Let me
show you something real quick. Is it the one
in the browser? I don't know. No. Yeah, the one
in the browser. Markdown. Yeah, I think I have
that. But I don't want to open, sometimes I don't
want to open up a browser, but, you know, sometimes
I just want to see, you know. It took me a while
to set that up, though. And that one is the NAP
-NVM by, I forget how to. I forget his name.
It starts with an F. But anyway, it's the knap
.inven. And I set that up. And that's a really
useful tool to me. And the only reason why I
had to do it in an Arch box is because there
was an update to Pandoc. And Arch Linux still
had the old version and allowed me to do this.
So I basically did that that way. So you can
interact from your main OS. You can interact
with the Arch machine, with the packages installed
in the Arch machine and use them, right? Yes.
Okay. Interesting. Okay. That is so cool. So
anyway, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And what's your
favorite desktop distros? We already went over
Aurora Linux. I guess that's one of them. You
want to mention quickly two other ones? Well,
I always have a soft spot for Arch Linux. I used
it for 10 years. I mean, I got it tattooed. Yeah,
I got it tattooed to my arm. So, yeah, it was
just a crazy thing. I used Arch Linux for 10
years. I loved it. But, you know, some of the
maintainers in the AUR, they just wrote packages
that aren't. I don't know how to say it. It's
just they don't maintain the packages correctly.
I'll just put it that way. If you take a look
at how they maintain packages in the Pac -Man
repo, they take a lot of care, more care than
probably most distros, like maybe Ubuntu, for
example. It's only a little shade. I like the
whole Fedora thing. Like, they're doing good.
And I'm actually warming up to OpenSUSE lately,
which kind of surprises me. I had a video until
the other day saying that OpenSUSE should die.
Because I was talking about the desktop, not
the server. I like their servers. I've always
liked their server stuff, but I don't like it.
I didn't get it. Their package manager is, like,
uber slow, and I didn't get it. But now I kind
of get some of the tools. So it's kind of like
being immutable without being immutable, so to
speak. So, like, you're able to roll back. You
know, your packages or whatever, whenever there's
like a huge conflict that breaks your system,
you can just roll it back a couple of, you know,
a couple of updates and go back to where you
were. To where you were. Okay, yeah, that's really
important. Breaking changes. Yeah. Is that why
you moved away from Arch a little bit? Breaking
changes? Is that why? Yeah, that was exactly
why. Okay. There's a lot of people that move
away in Neovim from distros. to their own config
or to other distros because of breaking changes
i haven't used linux on the desktop so i'm not
familiarized with that but if you know breaking
it's kind of like that yeah yeah it they cause
pain and they're like man i don't want to deal
with this right now and it's the worst time that
it always happens i imagine feeling that way
with my operating system i would get pissed right
yeah yeah especially like so this is how it would
work in arch linux okay so um like you would
have a package conflict because they had just
updated a package at conflicts with like 20 different
applications okay and so you'd have to uninstall
all those applications their dependencies everything
else do the update and then reinstall all of
the applications oh god Yeah, that was a little,
like, and sometimes I wouldn't be able to do
it. And now they've since allowed you to update
the Pac -Man keys and just do your update from
there. But before, I tried that a couple of times
and it didn't really work for me. But I think
a lot of people are saying that that's working
right now. So, I don't know. I don't use Arch
enough to really care about it. Okay. And there's
rumors out there that you're going to get an
Apple logo on the other arm after this call?
Yeah, if hell freezes over. Oh, man. So, here's
like three things. My first distro that I installed
was Gen 2 Linux. I installed it on an iMac G5.
And the reason why is because I got a half an
upgrade. So that came with Leopard. And then
it would upgrade to Snow Leopard. But this was
right before they went to the Intel chips. Okay.
So nothing would install in Snow Leopard. So
I didn't get any upgrades, really. And I needed
my computer. So I was like, well, at least give
me a browser and some stuff. So you have to get
past that wonky bootloader. I have my own opinions
on that, too. So you got to get past that wonky
bootloader. And so there was only a couple of
distros that would do it. So I burned that first.
burned a Linux mint, they were supposed to get
passive bootloader, and it did. But once I got
passive bootloader, it wasn't a good image. So
I installed the Gen 2 Linux version, which you
have to do everything by hand. It's like Arch
Linux on steroids. You install everything from
the terminal. But it's on steroids. It's like
installing an LFS on Linux from scratch. essentially
that was my first distro took me like three weeks
like i don't know how many times i went through
the installation and redid it it took me a long
time but i finally got it it was i i was like
wow so um that that kind of rubbed me the wrong
way that they would release a machine knowing
that they were going to a different chip and
that they weren't going to have any updates because
normally with with with macintosh i've used mac
since 1983 with the apple 2c i'm very familiar
with mac okay i'm very familiar with the way
they do things and everything else but you normally
get updates you can upgrade like if you you know
like i had uh what was that the g3 laptop um
i got upgrades from osx 10 .1 to 10 .6 For example,
this is a, which was what, Snow Leopard, I think
it was? I have no idea about the numbers. I don't
even know what number the current one that I'm
using right now is. Wow. Sequoia. I don't know
the number. Yeah. And so then there was another
issue, my dad. I detailed this in a video of
why Macs suck. Oh, I watched that one. Yeah.
My dad had thousands and thousands of dollars
worth of music that they just took out of iTunes
that he had uploaded. And when he called him
about it, I was like, oh, well, you don't own
the software. Okay, no warning. No, hey, get
your stuff off iTunes because we're going to
take it off. No, let's just cost you thousands
of dollars. they could have cared less. Oh, I
see. So he had his, his songs in iTunes there.
Yeah. Yeah. So iTunes does not exist anymore.
I think it's the music. Oh, it's music app, but
yeah, but I mean, it's not compatible anymore.
Yes. No. So like, I don't remember. Okay. So
I call it iTunes. It's music now, but that's
what iTunes used to be, I guess. Yeah. So, yeah
i i'm way back you know like you have to understand
i quit using macintosh a long time ago but i
thought that was such a move that and then after
that i read the history like how like the whole
bsd thing like how So there was an agreement
with Steve Jobs that he was going to take a lot
of this technology, but that he was going to
give some money in return and stuff like that.
I mean, he probably did give the bare minimum
he was required to, but you've got a $3 trillion
industry in Apple right now. Kick some money
back to the guys who made it happen. yeah like
okay i i totally get like you know like like
man there's three trillion dollars like you know
give them a billion dollars or something so they
can do some some work for their servers or something
else you know like you know you know pay it forward
you know but yeah just to me it doesn't seem
like they did that yeah okay sounds And it's
not just me that's saying it. Like, the lead
devs of BSD also have said as much. Okay, yeah.
I agree to that, you know. Give something back.
If you use something and if you make money out
of it, you know, just give something back, man.
I use Tmux all the time. Yeah. It's one of my
favorite tools. Yeah, me too. Donate something
to Tmux if you like it so much, right? NeoVim
as well, right? Exactly, yeah. I don't have the
money to do it, but if I had, I probably would.
Yeah, I would too, absolutely. I mean, I don't
have the money right at this second, but I think
that once I start making a little money off of
YouTube, yeah, there's a few projects I'll start
getting my money, for sure. Yeah, sure. And what's
your two least favorite distros? Ubuntu is one
of them, maybe, right? Yeah, I would say so.
Ubuntu and Manjaro. manjaro why manjaro the only
reason i know about manjaro is because of um
anthony well used to be called anthony in linux
tech tips oh yeah yeah i know yeah yeah um that's
the only reason i know about manjaro because
he showed she showed manjaro a few times in in
the videos i'm talking he back then because now
it's not a he anymore right so oh okay i all
right i wasn't i didn't know about this yeah
but that's the only reason i know about manjaro
why why don't you like it all right so i used
manjaro before i used arch linux it would break
on me like it would like be firing on all cylinders
and there would be an update and everything just
went uh Hades, so to speak. Especially if I used
anything from the AUR, it often broke packages,
but not only that, I've actually maintained packages
in the AUR. I'm talking as a person who knows
right now. A lot of these people go, you're just
hating them. I maintain packages for the AUR.
I would have to maintain packages twice as often
for Manjaro than I did for Arch Linux. The one
that I hardly ever had to do any updates for
was probably Debian, right? But Arch Linux, I'd
have to do some pretty frequent updates for the
packages to make them be able to compile. Manjaro
was worse. And there's a reason for it. And it
took me a while to kind of figure out what was
going on. But they have like, so it's kind of
a long story, but they have a different kernel
that they use that has nothing to do with Arch
Linux. Then they have a different repos. And
then they use Pac -Man to work in tandem with
the kernel and the repos. You should be able
to do that, right? I mean, theoretically. And
I don't know where the problem is occurring,
but it works well. I mean, people have a positive
experience until they don't. And that's my gripe.
That's my only gripe. If they've fixed... that
and some people swear they have and other people
say they haven't so i don't know what's true
i haven't used manjaro for so long but that was
one of like the most frustrating aspects of it
was i actually quit maintaining for Manjaro when
I was maintaining those packages in the AUR.
And I would get complaints every other week basically
saying, hey, why aren't these packages being
maintained? Or like, hey, I can't install this.
I'm like, what are you using? Oh, I'm using Manjaro
SOL. Like, you're out of luck. Oh, I see. So
breaking. We used to break a lot on you, okay?
And what would you say your preferred server
distro is? So I have three that I like a lot.
I think Ubuntu is probably the easiest to set
up. Because there are a lot of tutorials about
Ubuntu, right? Yeah, there's a lot of, yeah.
Documentation, everything is Ubuntu related.
Server and the server side. Yeah, and it's common
sense. I mean, it's just like, it's so obvious.
And so I actually like that a lot. I like Fedora
a lot. And OpenSUSA is warming up on me. And
it's kind of funny. I like Fedora, but I don't
like Red Hat. Oh, yeah. Red Hat, proprietary
stuff. Is that why? Yeah. No, no, no, no. But
that actually that I mean, that's not the only
reason. But a lot of it is just like some of
like the politics and stuff like that doesn't
actually roll out onto Fedora. They but they.
Some of their tools that they use that is proprietary,
I don't have access to. So everything works on
Fedora that would work on Red Hat, but it's without
all the proprietary garbage. And so I prefer
that, I guess, maybe. And you don't trust, what
is it, IBM is the one that acquired Red Hat,
right? I don't know what I think about that.
I think it is suspicious, but it's kind of like
I think that Microsoft is going to try to purchase
Ubuntu, for example. And actually, there's some
talks. I can't say who told me this, but there's
a couple of developers on the Ubuntu team that
have basically said that Microsoft has made a
couple of offers. Ubuntu, okay. Yeah, because
Microsoft wants to get all of those developers
back, right? Because most of the advanced users,
they're not on Windows unless there's a necessity,
right? If you're a game dev, of course, you're
going to be on Windows. Or if you develop applications
for Windows, of course, you're going to be on
Windows. But everyone else is on Linux or macOS,
right? Yes, pretty much, yeah. And why not? Yeah,
go ahead. No, go ahead. That was actually a perfect
point. I was actually going to agree with you,
but go ahead. Yeah, why not Debian? Why Ubuntu
and why not Debian? Debian is too... On the server,
of course. Yeah, yeah. So Debian's like, it's
not user -friendly, especially the networking
part of it. But if I have to set up, I've set
up Debian servers in the past. I mean, it's not
really a big deal, but... Yeah, I don't particularly
like Debian, for that matter. Seriously, it's
like installing... uh like linux from scratch
almost it seems like like like the networking
part of it is what really gets me sometimes like
like there'll be something going on i have to
sit there and figure out sometimes it'll take
me a couple of days to feed you know something's
going on with like uh the dns server or something
and i gotta like hunt down what's going on where
i'm like ubuntu it would have just done it automatically
yeah yeah they have this network manager or something
right Yeah, I remember playing with Ubuntu, you
know, because that's what you start with. Right.
But I don't know when it happened. And I was
like, man, but why am I using Ubuntu if it if
it comes from Debian? I just want to use, you
know, the chat of the distributions. I just don't
want to I don't trust canonical too much. And
I'm like, well, I'm a Mac OS user, so I cannot
say anything about that, you know, because, you
know. I don't take my word because I use macOS,
but I don't know. I just decided I'm going to
use Ubuntu for Debian. I'm sorry for everything.
So I just installed Debian in all of my servers.
I run Kubernetes. I run Docker Swarm. I run pretty
advanced stuff, and it works just fine. You know,
it's stable, man. Oh, man. My servers run for
years. I never have to touch them. As long as
I update them. not even a single time i have
i have had a breaking change on them right so
i don't know i would like to see more debian
related stuff on the server side of course because
i understand that for desktops really old packages
is what you're gonna get unless you do flat packs
i don't know i don't know how that works you
know but on servers I don't know what this thing
is with Ubuntu and everyone switching to it,
you know. I'd just like to see more Debian. What
are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I think if you
had more people using Debian, then they would
roll out some changes probably to make it easier
and make it a little bit better. I mean, that's
what happened with Arch Linux. It used to have
like this wonky... terminal install that everyone
hated and so then like a couple people got together
and goes we could find like a an automatic installer
that we could write and he said hold my beer
uh we'll get a calamaris installer and so i think
the same thing would happen yeah i honestly do
i mean the same thing would happen with gen 2
for that matter like if people were using it
like people like people would update it But no
one's using it, really. Other than for ultra
secure. Yeah, and finding documentation for Debian
as well, it's been a little bit tough for me,
you know. But most of the big, you know, stuff
that I install, like Kubernetes, has a Debian
specific section. They also have an Ubuntu section,
you know, but they always tend to have Debian,
at least big stuff. But it's not as easy as to
find documentation for Ubuntu, you know. It's
quite similar, right? Yeah. Yeah, it is. I mean,
they use the apt package manager and stuff, but
a lot of the tools. Yeah. Don't get me. Actually,
Apt got a huge upgrade. Apt 3 .0, it's coming
out very soon. And supposedly, it's a lot faster.
I don't know if that's true. And they have, like,
now everything's color -coordinated in the terminal.
Like, all the text is color -coordinated and
stuff. So now it's more readable, supposedly.
Yeah. And I just used Debian on the... Terminal,
I never install because when you get to the install
section, you get the option to choose a desktop
environment, right? Just none, and I just manage
it that way. So it doesn't make a difference
to me if it's Debian Ubuntu or what because I'm
just going to be in the terminal. As long as
the commands work for me, that's more than enough.
And what are your thoughts on macOS? That's what
we're here for. Okay, so like, I mean, I guess
like if you were, so the only thing that I would
say about macOS that I don't personally like
is the lack of customization options. Actually,
if I can share my screen one more time. Yep,
let me share that. Let me see. I got to find
it right here. I actually got something for you.
All right. So here I have, I'm using OpenSUSE,
but I'm using what's titled Window Manager, Spectre
WM. Okay. Now, there's a thing in Spectre WM
that is really cool. We call it D -Menu. So you
probably see this menu at the top, right? So
if I wanted to open up Firefox, boom. I can open
up Firefox. That's not the cool part, though,
okay? So the cool part is if you're in a – so
let me get into a terminal here. If you're into
a terminal and you say echo – I think it's echo
E. A. A, B, and C. Like that. You can pipe this
into D menu. You can see now you have a menu.
Okay. Now you can do another thing. You can go
echo E. You can do something like this. Wait,
sorry. You can do something like that. To put
it in separate lines. Right. You're following.
Right. And then if I did the same thing, I think
it's like this. Okay, maybe I got to make a space
on that. But anyway, the thing is, is I can make
a drop down menu, right? Okay. Now there's something
cool that I do. Maybe it's like this? I don't
remember, but no? Okay. I can do it using the
slash in, but anyway, somehow it's, for whatever
reason, it's not wanting to cooperate. But anyway,
so I have a bunch of configurations around that.
So if I said, for example, SMPDF, okay? Now I
have a ROFI menu, or it's working with dmenu.
So I select an item and go to, like, say, programming.
And say I want something in Python. And there
I basically open up a PDF that I have on Python.
There's a lot of hacks like this that save me
time that I like. I don't see that being able,
like, I don't see D menu and row fee. FZF, I
think you have, right? Yep, FZF, yep. All right.
There's things like that. Hold on. Okay. There
is, like, I have another one that is really cool.
So this is like to search in your file system,
right? Yeah, it just searches my PDF folder.
So this one, if I can type man. Now this one
searches man page. So say I wanted to search
about XDO. I open it right here. And I have a
PDF of my man page. And it's readable. Okay.
Like, I don't know if you've experienced this
where, like, the man page is totally unreadable.
This is in a very readable format. I open it
through Neovim. There's something that you do.
I don't remember what I did, but I just opened
man pages in Neovim. Yeah, I think I know which
one you're talking about. I think I did that
as well. But anyway, there's things like that
that I just think that with, and I have like
a bunch of like little hacks for doing the same
thing. Like I have, so this is old school, like
the dozen panel bar down here at the bottom,
it has a clickable menu. It basically does the
same thing. um i don't think i have conky installed
but i can you know like launch my conky and that
sort of thing but i see like a lot of those types
of um like a lot of those types of hacks i just
don't i don't really see that you're able to
do that is freely That's my only gripe about
Mac OS, exactly. So, like, I mean, you're developers.
You should be able to make your – I did another
one. So, like, Rofi, Dmenu, and FZF, they all
work the same way. So I basically – wait, sorry.
They all work the same way, just so that I can
show you. So I get – this is – like works exactly
the same way and now if i wanted to what i could
do is i could do this and then say python games
go in here there's my notes yeah i i do get the
point but um it has changed because A lot of
the Linux developers have migrated to macOS,
and I think it's because of their jobs, right?
I was forced to use macOS at my job. Really talented
people that have to migrate over to macOS, and
they make it better. Let me quickly show you
something, okay? Okay. Where is this thing? You
should be looking at my screen right now, correct?
Yeah. Okay. so let me just quickly show you something
so you can see how customizable it is it's not
easy you have to play a lot with that but if
right i just type the command right now and it
shows me this menu right and let's say that i
want to change the color scheme i'm gonna choose
this uh minty lemon right i don't know if it's
gonna work or not or if it's gonna break but
i got an fcf menu there right and uh i can just
search for something i want to apply this color
scheme i'm just gonna hit enter here And you're
going to notice that a lot of stuff is going
to happen, right? So it even restarted Kitty,
restarted NeoVim. It applied the color scheme
everywhere, right? Even at the bar at the very
top of the screen, this little bar here, you
know, got those colors. I don't know why this
horrible desktop wallpaper got selected. I have
to check on that because it's not supposed to
be that one. It's supposed to be a different
one. But I'm just going to go back to my colors,
this new headings. So I think it was not customizable
maybe a lot in the past, but I think that has
changed a lot. I don't know if it's in the recent,
you know, in recent years or when that started
happening, but we have window managers now, right?
I use a window manager to switch between stuff.
It's not like Linux, you know, it's not the best,
but. you know at least you you get something
and it gets the job done yeah i get some time
i don't need like a bunch of bells and whistles
with my tiling window manager um and in fact
if i didn't use the tiling window manager i could
kind of get by i guess um but And the fact that
you have FZF, I can probably do everything in
Mac that I do on Linux. Like, as far as my scripting,
I can do pretty much all of it. Yeah, everything
that you can think of. All I do in Mac is bash.
I wish they had a D menu, though. That changed
my, like, when I realized you could pipe things
right in there and have, like, a drop -down menu
and basically have it do things and just basically
have, like, a for loop saying. you know hey you
know when this is uh when this is selected do
this um wow that was really cool like i was like
and then you could do that you could uh control
like your you know what music you know what song
you wanted to listen to or something what what
playlist you wanted to listen to would be very
easy yeah there's this other there's this other
tool that josh medesky created um it's called
sesh let me show it to you real quick just gonna
type a key on my keyboard it's gonna bring up
sesh right so i can search through stuff in here
right if i want to open a tmux session for one
of these directories i can or if i want to open
for example my neobim keymaps file this file
directly from here right just gonna hit enter
and it's going to open it you know as a tmux
session so like mac os by itself is trash right
the tools that you get with mac os i don't use
basically i just use the unix part i just use
the terminal and all of the wonderful tools that
a lot of people have created in the community
you know i think that's what makes it better
now and that makes it a little bit more usable
but not the things that come with mac os itself
um i don't think i use any of those i don't use
mac os the regular way like a normal user would
you know right no i gotcha yeah yeah and i have
friends that are kind of that way and like even
though um they totally screwed my dad over like
with this music he hasn't stopped using mac os
like he just bought a new m1 or m2 box you know
it's like okay You know, it's really funny. I
think that some of the ARM technology is really
cool. I've got my eye on it. I'm waiting for
it to come over to the Windows side so I can
install Linux on it. Yeah, I've thought about
that too. If I ever... install a Linux distribution,
it will be on ARM. Why? Because the battery lasts
so long, man. The battery on these computers,
I don't know. I unplug it and I can use it for
eight, 10 hours without any issue. So if that
migrates over to Windows and Linux is, you know,
developed for that and it works fine, would be
quite interesting what you can do with it. Yeah,
no, for sure. Like I said, I don't hate Macintosh
as much as I hate Windows. I'm just saying. I
think they're all about the money at the end
of the day and a little greedy. Do I hate them?
No. I mean, kind of hate the fact that they didn't
pay it forward. But other than that, I mean,
like, I just understand that if I buy an Apple
product, that they're all about the money. Yeah.
That's all about the money. I understand that.
Yeah. And as a consumer, you know what you're
getting into. You know that you don't have to
pay overpriced products for a share. You know,
but. You just accept it and say, whatever, I'll
do it. I'll do it anyway. Yeah, one of the things
that also, I don't know, they supposedly quit
doing, you might be able to clue me into this,
but they started soldering the memory boards
and everything into the mainframe. I thought
that was, that wasn't cool, man. A lot of us
would buy like a, you know, we would basically
buy the i5 version and then take the CPU and
buy an i7 or whatever. Yeah, but if you think
about it, if you're going to, you know, I had
a, what did I have? I had a Core 2 Duo was the
CPU that I had when I used Windows back in the
day. and i had a intel motherboard just basic
stuff if i needed to upgrade the cpu i probably
would have needed to upgrade the motherboard
as well oh yeah sometimes that is true that is
true like if you have like dd4 like if you have
uh dd3 ram in your motherboard and you're trying
to upgrade to dd4 well obviously that's not gonna
work right like i get that but what i'm saying
is like like uh you know a lot of people they
would buy like a laptop right they knew what
they were doing they knew that okay i'm gonna
buy the i5 i'm gonna pull the chip out and put
the i7 in and i'm gonna take the memory and i'm
gonna just load it full of memory and do all
these other things because i can buy the memory
cheaper than what the manufacturer was giving
me for it yeah And so while that wasn't the only
thing that people discovered, when they did that
with the IMAX, they got better performance than
the benchmarks that were published when they
did that. When they upgraded the stuff. Oh, yeah.
So all of a sudden, everything started becoming
soldered inside there because they're like, you're
going to use what we give you. And F you, you
know. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. Something
that I don't like about it too much is, for example,
I have an M. What is this? M4? I think it is
the last gen of MacBooks. This laptop that I'm
on is an M4. The one that I used before that
is an M1 Mac mini. Right. So. They have um, I
don't know when the m1 is going to be receiving
updates right for the latest version of the OS
I think that's gonna be like, I don't know two
three years maybe so if I want to keep using
that in one computer five years from now, I'll
have to use and an old version of the Of the
operating system, right? So they force you to
upgrade if you want to architectures yes you
want to have that's actually the one thing that
that really appealed to me about like arch linux
and now it's pretty much mainstream but when
i first started using arch linux the first thing
i noticed was there were wasn't any architectures
that you noticed like that was a mind -blowing
to me it was like because case in point So I
used my buddy's MacBook a few years around that
time. It was a few months before that, I remember.
And I was just trying to find some free software
to burn an ISO image onto my thumb drive. Alcohol
or what was it? Nero was in Windows, back in
Windows, you remember? Yeah, this was Mac. Oh,
Mac. Okay. Okay. And I couldn't, like, I would
find, like, a free and open source version and
to burn an ISO image onto my thumb drive, it
wouldn't work because it would be the wrong architecture.
This kept happening over and over. I finally
just gave up. I figured out another way to do
it without the Mac, obviously. It was so frustrating.
I wasted two hours of my time. I'm like, never
again. But when I first started using, and Ubuntu
kind of had the same problem, where if you had
1204, whatever the... that version was i can't
even remember now but like the 1204 like but
you wanted to install something for you you had
1404 you couldn't install the software from 1204
from that repository and so a lot of times like
you would have to add a repo from like 1404 well
if it wasn't available You know, there's all
kinds of hoops and it was like all these architectures
where it was like in Arch Linux, it was just
like, oh, well, just use Pac -Man. I mean, that
was such a revelation to me. And now, like, it
seems like for the most part, if you look at
Fedora, if you look at Ubuntu or Debian. Now
the package managers are such where nobody's
installing all of these third -party repos. I
mean, they are, but it's very limited, so you
don't really see the architectures anymore. So
they've all kind of migrated that direction,
I think. And OpenSUSE, you don't see the architectures
at all. yeah like the only distros you didn't
see the architectures back in the day were Gen
2 Slackware and Arch like those are the three
you just they weren't noticeable yes they have
different kernels and so based on the different
kernels would be would be your I guess your architecture
so to speak especially in Arch Linux but that
was such a revelation to me it was like Wow,
that is so cool. And you mentioned that you hate
Windows. Why? Well, I think the Windows hatred
comes, it's pretty easy. You know, in order to,
like, they don't allow you to see what's going
on under the hood, right? I think that Mac, for
the most part, kind of lets you see what's going
on under the hood. Even if they don't allow you
to see all the proprietary code, you get a pretty
good sense of what goes on under the hood. Not
so with Windows. Not unless you take all these
really expensive classes and everything else.
And then you start learning about their ecosystem
and then learning the way that they do things.
Could I like Windows if I took all those expensive
classes? Maybe. But I just, I can't, it's not
clear as day what's going on under the hood.
And the other thing is you can't customize it
like Windows 11. I could show you. You can't
put the, like without like having like an older,
like installing software for the older panel
and a bunch of other hacks. You can't put the
panel at the top. You can't have any kind of
customization. You can't alter the size of the
panel. Like really? Really, like, that's where
we're going with this? Like, you have zero choice?
It's like, and not only that, they copied the
Plasma desktop from Linux. If you take a look
at Windows 11 and the Plasma 5 desktop, they're
almost identical. Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah, it was
complete plagiarism. And the only reason they
didn't get sued is because... Probably because
they're the biggest contributor to the Linux
kernel. Okay, yeah. My reasons for not liking
Windows. I don't like Windows. I used Windows
all my life, you know. And then I switched to
Mac. But when I switched to Mac, I met, you know,
Unix. So I spend most of my day in the terminal.
Typing commands, doing stuff, always in the terminal.
Windows and their, you know, yeah, DOS. Yeah,
MS -DOS. MS -DOS PowerShell. I don't like it.
I don't like it at all. MS -DOS is like ancient
technology. The PowerShell is more modern, yeah.
Yeah, I don't like PowerShell either. They don't
use DOS anymore. Yeah. But yeah, I agree with
you. So yeah, I didn't get used to it in the
terminal. applications if you game of course
if you play games well I'm gonna start a debate
maybe with you because you're fully Linux but
if you game I would personally say just go with
Windows don't complicate things I would five
years ago I probably would agree but right now
like you have a lot of a lot of advancements
in the world of gaming for Linux, so much so,
like, if you take a look at Bazite, which is
the same project from the distro that I'm using
right now, the Aurora Linux, the Bazite, oh,
man, it comes loaded. Like, optimization for,
like, NVIDIA, AMD, whatever, like... you can
overclock your, your graphics cards and all this
stuff. And like a lot of this stuff comes pretty
much right out of the box. What is it called?
You said Basite? Basite. B -A -Z -I -T -E. Okay.
This thing. Yeah. Yeah. That is, that is. Like
anybody who's a gamer, they should be looking
at this. So this is like a distro from the same
team that created this Aurora? Yes. Okay. So
that is like optimized for gaming, right? You
don't have to jump through a bunch of hoops.
You just install it and things are going to be
easier for you if you're into gaming? Yes. Interesting.
I didn't know that. Yeah, when I was looking
at that, I'm not a big gamer, but man, I saw
that. In fact, I'm actually kind of like wanting
to do that for music because I sometimes record
my own music and I use a lot of stuff. Now, in
years past, I would use AV Linux through a virtual
machine. um i want to just set up my own distro
immutable distro that doesn't change and have
like a a low latency kernel and a bunch of other
stuff and just have it and then have like my
developer stuff and all this other stuff and
then i can do everything i want to on the same
computer basically and how do you do music on
linux now like what are you uh our doer is like
the uh like I love this. It's called Ardour,
A -R -D -O -U -R. Let me put it up. I think I've
heard about it. Because that's one of the other
things that got me into macOS as well. Okay,
so it's like a DAW, right? Yeah, it is a DAW,
yeah. Okay. But it's really good. It takes a
while to get used to. I haven't been playing
around with it for a while, but I used to use
what was called AV Linux because all the music
stuff, and then they would just freeze the kernel,
like the updates, so it wouldn't update, so it
wouldn't break the packages or anything. And
so I'm thinking I could do the same thing here.
but with like a uBlue type thing. I could use
like all of his stuff, and I would probably bring
him in at that point. I'd be like, hey, dude,
I can do what you've been trying to do for the
last 10 years, but your system will never break.
It'll just stay the same forever. Yeah, that's
one of the reasons why I definitely don't switch
to Linux, you know, stability. And I just want
to open an application and for it to work all
the time. I know it has gotten a lot better over
the past few years, but I don't know. I don't
know how good it is at the moment with audio
and video, you know, because that's what I do
right now. You notice I'm doing video editing.
I did music back in the day as well. That's why
I fell in love with Mac OS as well. Because I
found this Logic Pro X. Oh, yeah. Man, it is
a gem. I think it's the best one that I have
ever tried. And Windows, I used Pro Tools. I
didn't like it too much. I don't like Pro Tools.
And, you know, it's funny because I think I have,
like, a lot of friends who are all into Pro Tools
or Cubase. And I used to use Cakewalk back in
the day. It later became Sonar. And this actually,
the layout is a lot like Cakewalk, which is what
I like. But there's a lot of other things. This
thing comes loaded when you install Ardour. And
like I said, it's free and open source. Yeah,
there's only like four people developing it.
And it's actually surprisingly good. It's like,
okay, yeah, you don't have 50 people developing
it actively. It's still surprisingly good. It's
better than Reaper, in my opinion. No, I use
Reaper as well, I think. Well, a few plugins
from Reaper, I remember that I installed. Yeah,
yeah. So I did play with audio for a long time
back in the day. I haven't done so in a... in
a while that moves us moves us to the next topic
you know your thoughts on open source versus
closed source software yeah so like i said i
think i kind of probably already covered this
i'm not like a purist in the sense like um like
you know some of your graphics cards or something
is going to be closed source. It's just the way
it is. However, if you have a pretty good open
source alternative to a piece of software, I
think it's incumbent upon us to use it because
the closed source, they can do anything they
want. They can literally say you don't own the
software. Yeah. You know, I know this is kind
of an extreme, but say you record music or maybe
you have a YouTube channel and you're using OBS
and maybe your political views are different
from their political views, right? And now they
will say, well, you know, maybe we're going to...
Yeah, somehow you're canceled. Yeah. Yeah, I
don't know how they would do it. We shut your
channel down. They shut YouTube channels down
if you get political and all that stuff. Oh,
yeah. Yeah, they can, yeah. If you don't have
the will to fight it, yeah, probably. Yeah, and
you won't because it requires a lot of money,
so. Yeah, sometimes. Usually they just, they'll,
like, suspend them. uh they'll suspend them i
got a helicopter outside so i don't know what
that was about but anyway um mainly like they
could do something like kind of what they did
to my dad you know like hey you know we're just
gonna take all this music and you don't own the
software so you know like you're sol yeah you
don't even have to tell you you know like you
know big stiff middle finger you don't own the
software Yeah, that's the way it is. I don't
know, maybe you have a bunch of Photoshop stuff,
right? What's to keep them from removing things
that they think is copyrighted? Yeah. I mean,
there's a bunch of legitimate arguments someone
can make to say that, like, if you purchase a
piece of software, you should own it. Yeah, but
what do you own these days? Not even the games,
right? If you pay for a game, you just get the
license and, well, Most of the games, not all
of them. I think there's still a few that you
own, right? Right. That's where we're heading
to, I think. Yeah, no, that's my point. See,
like if I have a video player on Linux, they
don't care what I'm listening to. They're not
going to come. And if they had like a online
whatever, like that account, I own that account.
Yeah. Yep. And so they're not going to pull out
a bunch of music files that, oh, we think this
is pirate. They're going to be like, you know,
that's their business. They own it. If you want
to go after someone, go after them. And so I
think that, you know, that is probably if you
were going to talk about like free and open source,
I think that would probably be. That would probably
be, if I had to say, that would be my biggest
objection. You just don't own it. You don't own
it, yeah. I'm into open source a lot. For example,
Miobim is the greatest example. Tmux, open source
tool. A lot of different open source CLI tools
that I use. So I'm in favor of open source. And
I always use open source. Well, I use closed
source stuff if I don't find a better alternative,
right? Like for music, I'm not going to complicate
myself. I'm going to use Apple's thingy. It works.
I don't care too much, right? I'm not going to
use GIMP, you know? No. I actually use GIMP.
I've been using it, but GIMP 3 .0 is surprisingly
good. But I used GIMP, I don't know, 20 years
ago. complicated i don't even use photoshop you
know so it's not that i have something against
gimp i'll just find something that is friendly
user friendly for me and that is easy to use
i don't care if it's open source or if it's closed
source to be honest with you i i do agree you
know developers have to make a life so i do agree
on paying for stuff that um that i find useful
you know if there's an application that i like
and it's ten dollars to purchase it I'll purchase
it. You're going to help. It's probably a single
guy doing it. Yeah, you're helping him make a
living. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and it's kind
of interesting. Free and open source software,
though, you have a lot of alternatives today.
20 years ago, if somebody said, hey, we want
to edit video on Linux, probably not. Yeah. Right
now they got Kdenlive. Man, I'll tell you what,
that's pretty close to DaVinci Resolve and it's
free and open source. And do you use DaVinci
or you use Kdenlive? I use Kdenlive. And why
you don't use DaVinci? Because it's closed doors?
Or what's the reason? No, actually, the main
reason why is in order to install it on your
computer, it's a huge headache to install it
on Linux. It basically roots your computer, basically.
I don't. Yeah. They're like, it's going to mess
with your grub menu and a bunch of other stuff.
So it needs too much access then, right? Yes.
Way too much access. Okay. So you use Kdenlive.
But that's the only reason. It's not like I hate
closed source. I hate DaVinci just because it's
closed source. I'm going to use something. It's
not totally closed source. It is semi -open source.
It is? Yeah, I think so, from what I remember.
I have no idea. I didn't know, for example, that
Obsidian was closed source, and it is closed
source. It seems like an open source project,
the Obsidian, the note -taking app. The plugins
are open source, I think. Yeah, a lot of the
community plugins are, definitely. But you're
not against closed source just for being closed
source, right? No, I'm not a purist, but I do
think that there are some concerns. that someone
needs to be aware of, at least. I do think that
the world of open source right now, I think what's
going to happen, and it's really unfortunate,
at least on my vantage point, is they're going
to force people to choose sides. What do you
mean? Okay, so right now there's a civil war
going on between what is open source and what
isn't. And basically what they're doing is they're
pushing people to extremes. Instead of just saying,
hey, man, we just enjoy open source software.
We care about the issue of open source. Let's
all get along. So, like, now they're, you know,
for example, Ubuntu is not going to be GNU Linux
for very much longer. Like, they're just going
to be Linux. Because all the GNU utils are ripped
out. Stuff going on. Okay. Yeah. So, I think
that they're going to push people to extremes.
I don't know what I'm going to end up doing,
but if they force me that direction, I might
have to make a really bold decision. But I'm
kind of trying to hold out as long as possible,
if that makes sense, because I don't want to
be the extremist. Yeah. But some of these people,
especially in Europe, that are ahead of the GNOME
Foundation and other big projects, they're wanting
to change the definition. And by changing the
definition of what the GPL 3 .0 is, they're going
to force a bunch of people onto one side or the
other. I think, because either you're going to
be all FSF and Richard Stallman and using a 14
-year -old laptop, or you're going to be supporting
them. They're going to literally force you into
two camps, where I think now there's a big middle
ground, and there should be a middle ground.
And we should all be able to coexist. And see,
even if, like, say, you use some proprietary
software, you understand the risks. But at the
same time, you know, if you read the stuff by,
like, say, Richard Stallman, for example, and
you understand why he started the free and open
source software movement, then you'll go, okay,
so I do care about this. And I am keeping my
eye out on this product, on this product, and
on this product. But I have to use them for work.
There's not much I can do, but I still care about
the issue. And you can be in the middle, and
everybody's cool. And so one thing that no one
has been able to tell me so far, and this is
one of the things that I have a problem with.
Okay, so you changed the definition of the GPL
3 .0 license. How does that help you? If you
can make a GPL license proprietary in the future,
how does that help you? Why can't you just use
a different license? Nobody's been able to really
answer that, but they have been after. The GPL
3 .0. Okay. So they want to have full control.
Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, they've done it. You
can read about it. Like they've done like big,
big, huge campaigns to get rid of Richard Stallman,
Linus Torvalds, the whole nine yards. And you're
like, but wait a minute. They're the ones that
gave you free and open source software. Yeah.
So your thoughts are they want to close source
it, right? Big corporations don't want to have
all of that open source anymore. They want to
close source it, use it to their advantage, make
money. Okay. Yep. Okay. Well, I don't know. Makes
sense. I would guess. Yeah. I would guess. Yeah.
I think they want to do the same thing that Steve
Jobs did with BSD and Apple. Okay. Could be.
They want to create like a cheaper version of,
mac os maybe the ubuntu guys that they want something
like that right yeah and i don't even know if
it's the ubuntu i don't know if they've even
thought that far ahead but yeah there are a lot
of people like you know half like all these big
projects there's a lot of people who want like
to remove richard stallman from the uh fsf the
free software foundation you're like why like
the guy's dying anyway like letting like die
in peace you know like he's got cancer and how
old is he now he's in his 70s i think oh okay
and he's very political too like he's a little
outspoken and autistic yeah i've watched his
interviews and all that stuff yeah it's like
oh but i just like i i I would rather roll with
him than the rats that are trying to take operations.
Yeah. Yeah. Same here. Well, I don't know. I
use Mac OS. So like I said, you know, I have
no skin in the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we'll
see. Interesting. Interesting topic. What about
let's switch gears. We've been in the call for
two hours. We have a lot of topics. I think we
will probably have to do a part two, depending
on what people say. Do you want to do a part
two or do you want to continue and see how far
we can get? Oh, it's up to you. I got the time.
If you got the beer, I got the time, as they
say. All right. Let's try that. Proverbially.
Let's try to wrap it up quicker. Yeah, let's
try to move a little bit faster and let's see
where we get to. So in Linux, you have a window
manager you mentioned. What was it? Like the
one I was using with Spectre WM. Okay. I know
nothing about Linux window managers, but Linux
folks watching this are probably understanding
what you're talking about. What layout do you
use? Do you use BSP in your window manager or
you just... one application on the screen at
a time what are your thoughts so a lot of so
yeah most most of the time i only use like one
or two like they'll either like stack right next
to each other or they'll be the full application
i still have like problems with like floating
windows i usually have to write like a separate
script to keep them on top and things like that
but But to make that happen, you have to put
applications on desktops, right? So let's say
if I open four applications and if I don't arrange
them the way that I need, all of them are going
to open up in the same desktop and I'll have
four on the screen and they're going to be quite
small. So you have to put them in different desktops.
So they open up. Yeah, they got to be floating.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's one of the reasons why
I just, because. in the window manager that i
use in mac os we do have that bsp right what
is that um they partition right so if i open
four apps each one of them is going to occupy
a quarter of the screen right or if i if i open
two half of the screen for each i don't want
to deal with that right i just now the way that
i use the window manager in mac os is that i
open an application and it's just going to occupy
the entire screen the way that you see on my
screen right so if i switch to my um terminal
or if i switch to the browser or any other application
i'm gonna use up the entire screen i don't want
to be managing apps basically that's what i'm
trying to say yeah so i did actually have like
a quick video on our uh on that specific If you
take a – actually, I don't have – I won't re
-spin it up. But you can see I did a – like this
is highly customized. But you can see on my video.
Which one? It's way down. It's down. The one
where it says discover the best Arch Linux configuration,
blah, blah, blah, blah. That one. This one. Okay.
Yeah. It's just like a quick overview of some
of the layouts and stuff. I don't use most of
them. And it's kind of funny because that video
I thought would take off because it was really
highly configured. It didn't really gain traction,
but it got traction on Unix porn. got some serious
traction like like over a thousand people like
gave me a thumbs up on it like that's crazy okay
so you have a lot of different options layouts
and all that yeah i don't use them yeah i when
i'm setting it up i set it up mainly for other
people like if they want to set it up i show
them how to do it but for the most part I can't
remember the last time I had more than two apps
on a screen. Yeah. And they're just kind of side
by side if I need another one. It's because I
got two monitors most of the time too. So I just
like, I'll just go. And I love how Spectre WM
handles dual monitors. I don't like how like
some of the others. There's DWM. there is uh
that i like dwm a lot but you have to know how
to patch uh c code in order to get a bunch of
different options that's part of the cyclist
utility like d menu for example and uh they have
a lot of really cool stuff but um it's very very
archaic uh code that they've put together it's
like I don't know how to describe it, but it's
minimalist. So it's a window manager with less
than a thousand lines of code, essentially. And
so if you want anything extra, you have to patch
it in. Oh, okay, yeah. And it gets a little hairy
sometimes if you don't know what you're doing.
Oh, I can't imagine. Yeah, you got to watch a
couple of videos to see how to patch it in because
it doesn't always patch correctly. And then you
got to go ahead and make the corrections. Another
one that is really kind of hard to configure,
but I really like as well, it's X Window Manager,
is Exmonet. I think XMODAT's the coolest window
manager ever. Oh, really? Yeah, I do. But it's
written in Haskell, and not too many people program
in Haskell, so they don't really. And then the
documentation is like, it's not very clear. Oh,
I see. It takes you time to put together features
and stuff like that. Oh, I was just going to
say that in Mac OS, we only have basically two.
One is called Yabai. The other one is called
Aerospace. I don't know about the other one.
I don't know how Aerospace works, to be honest
with you. But there's more. There's some basic
like window managers in Mac OS, Amethyst and
some other stuff like that. I don't even count
them because I want something that is more. Similar
to Linux. I would say those are the two. I just
use the API. Pretty basic usage, basically. Yeah.
Yeah. And Wayland, for example, they have some
cool tiling window managers. Like, for example,
they have Hyperland. Oh, Hyperland. I've heard
about that in videos. Yeah, I've used it a little
bit. I do like it. It's just, I don't know, like
I'm still like, I'm just kind of getting comfortable
with Weyland. Like I've been, you know, putting
it off like using anything Weyland because I
just didn't think it was stable enough. Yeah.
Okay, okay. And what about the terminal? Which
one do you use? So these days I normally use
Kitty, Westterm, Ghosty is okay. For some of
my scripts, though, sometimes I use just ST,
which is part of the suckless utilities. I set
up like I have a lot of, I have a custom configuration
of ST that I like. that I've used for, I don't
know, probably 10 years or so. The only thing
that's changed over the years with that is probably
the color scheme. The color scheme's changed,
but pretty much that's about it. But mostly I
use that. Then I use this one that they give
me with Aurora. It's called Texas, but it's spelled
a little weird. I'll show you. Did they develop
it or is it like... Yes. Yeah, they did. Okay.
But it's P -T -Y -X -I -S. Something like this.
I think it's like that. Okay. Something like
that. Anyway... It's a really good terminal for
the most part. And this right here is where like
all of my distro boxes are. So I can get into
my containers as well. So that's kind of cool.
So I've been using that a lot. And so I have
like two shortcuts. So like, you know, like super
return will launch that one. And then control
super return launches kitty. oh okay so you use
the popular ones kitty western ghosty that's
what the cool kids are using nowadays and you're
also using this one and st yeah okay yeah okay
yeah yeah i uh i i really like this actually
um i really like um But I like, this one doesn't
have image rendering, so I only use this when
I don't have images I need to see and stuff like
that. To see in the terminal. Okay, okay. And
text editor or ID that you use, which one is
it? Okay, so this one has been kind of back and
forth for a long time. I used, I used NeoVim
probably. From the beginning. I used Vim. Then
I went to NeoVim. I had my own config and everything
else. Then I went to Emacs for a while. I used
Emacs for about two years, like Doom Emacs. I
liked it. But it's not fast enough. That's the
only problem. When you're actually doing actual
work, it's not fast enough. But now I'm on NeoVim.
So NeoVim is the one then. Yeah. And do you use
your own setup for NeoVim, like your own configuration,
or you use a distribution? So I landed on AstroVim.
I tried like LazyInVim. I tried Kickstart or
whatever that is by TJ. I tried a bunch of them.
and i still like have them like i have my switcher
i think you did you see my switcher oh yeah i
did see that you created a video right about
a switcher yeah it's different configs yeah yeah
so um yeah i um so i can switch to like lazy
vim i want to mess around with it but astro It
comes with all the tools that I use for the most
part, but it doesn't, it isn't, like, I don't
know how to put this. So, like, with NeoVim,
like, when you download, like, the Lazy InVim,
there's, like, everything in the kitchen sink.
I would have to, like, gut it. to be able to
use it right do you know what i mean like it
is so like involved there's so much stuff and
it's like like i wouldn't even know where to
start like it's just so much and it's like i
press the wrong key and oh and like the worst
thing that that i like folky that noise plugin
all the notifications that you see on the right
hand side top right corner yeah please throw
that in the trash like i'm sorry that is the
worst but but it's manageable look at this look
at this i'm just gonna show you i'm just gonna
switch here to my dot files right and if i quit
here i'm gonna open any of them i'm gonna open
a little file right so usually if i open the
key maps file you would see all of those on the
top right corner right and it's pretty annoying
but look at how it looks for me notice the bottom
right corner that's where i have them right so
i have them there and i don't have the the big
square and thousands of boxes that show it doesn't
annoy me right because it's there on the right
hand side so oh okay that isn't terrible yeah
oh my god it's just like and it would like oh
like and nothing would install right oh man like
it's just like it is a little it is a little
bit complicated when you start with the lazy
vim distro but yeah i i saw that like uh dev's
lab like he he did uh something with that as
well right like he he i think he was the one
that disabled it right oh the the noise thing
the notifications Yeah, I guess so. I still like
to see them because sometimes, you know, if there
is a warning or something, it's kind of useful
sometimes. Right. But I got tired of it, of having
all the pop ups on the right top on the top right
corner. So I just modified it. Now it shows there
and it doesn't bother me. But you have to research
and you have to find a way to do it. You know,
you have to get to know the distribution. You
have to know how how to do stuff. And it takes
time. i'm not i'm not saying it's easy it has
taken me months to be able to set it up the way
that i want it you know so yeah yeah just it's
like i set up astro vim like i changed things
out like i changed the bottom panel i changed
um I took out noise. I put snacks in. You know,
I mean, I did a lot of stuff where, like, I've
pretty much gutted AstroVim, too. Okay. But it
was so much easier. Like, it wasn't like, wait,
where do I even start? It was like, oh, okay.
Like, okay, I'm going to replace this. I'm going
to gut that. And I'm going to disable that. It
was like, it was easy. It was simpler, yeah.
LazyVim is a little bit difficult. It comes with
a lot of stuff. It's difficult, but. Yeah, I
haven't tried any other. I still have to try,
you know, Astro or other distros. This one works
for me, so I'm not someone that is going to be
jumping around stuff. If I find something that
works, I just stick to it, and I don't change,
unless there's, like, a specific reason. But,
okay, good to know. Yeah, let's prove it. Yeah.
File folder, I think it's just Neotree or Nerdtree.
Oh, nothing special, just, okay, Neotree, okay.
Well, sometimes I use oil. Okay, oil. Because
of the buffers, I like just, you know, like adding
and taking away files in the buffer. Like, that's
cool. And what do you think about mini .files?
That one's really interesting to me. I really
want to check that out a little bit. In fact,
that has been on my bucket list to do a video
between mini and oil and comparing them because
I think that is a... very very good video to
make yeah yeah it is yeah a lot of people love
oil a lot man if i go to reddit i i post a lot
on reddit you know and a lot of them love oil
but i love the main reason why i love mini is
because i can treat these as in a buffer you
know i can manipulate files the same way that
i do in oil i can do it here but what I like
about it is the features, the preview, right?
I can quickly see, okay, so this is this file,
this is this file. I can go back to the previous
directory and I can say, okay, I don't even have
to open the file, right? I know what this bind
syntax file has, right? So I think, I think I
like that quite a lot, but I also like what Folky
included, this picker. Oh, yeah. You get a preview.
You can even preview images, man. That's crazy.
I didn't know about that. So I can preview images
in this picker, man. That's that's awesome. Yeah,
I want to like get into that. Yeah, I haven't
I have I have been neglecting my new Vim and
there's kind of a reason for it. So before before
yesterday, I was about eight inches higher than
I normally am. But my neck was hurting, and I
couldn't sit at my computer for very long because
my neck was hurting. And so I cut the legs off
of my chair, so I go down about another eight
inches, and so now my neck isn't hurting. So
now I'll be able to focus on my... Your config.
My config and all the stuff that I do because
I make a video or I do a live stream. By the
time I did a live stream or when I teach English
at night, every night my neck was just killing
me. And so now I'm looking up. and so that's
so much better i got my my keyboard right at
my hands now and so it's a little bit better
before i had to like kind of put it in my lap
because i had like a shelf that i'd pull out
and put it on there but that kind of broke and
a bunch of other stuff so now i'm like i was
so much more comfortable now i can actually work
on some of this a little bit more yeah i really
want to work on the note -taking aspect and um
on on aurora they have this deal where um you
can set up they have the easiest way to set up
a docker container through vs code and then In
order to use NeoVim inside that Docker container,
what they do is they just basically copy an instance
of your config, and then you install NeoVim inside
that Docker container, and you can use your Docker
container inside there. And so I'm really kind
of curious to see how that's going to roll out.
I haven't, you know, I've only, I've just been
investigating a lot of this stuff. So, yeah.
Yeah, it's going to be really interesting, some
of the stuff. But one thing that a lot of people
are doing here, this is kind of why it appeals
to me, is that they're doing like all the, using
all this cloud technology and then they take
everything that they learned and they enter the...
Yeah, they enter the job market. I do like that
approach of containerization. I don't know if
it, well, I guess applications will take a performance
hit, you know. I don't know if you feel the difference
or not. If I don't feel the difference, I don't
care where it runs or how it runs. If I feel
that it's snappy, I don't care too much, you
know. But it's interesting to see how that is
taking place now. Yeah, I don't notice a difference
in small things and small applications. I never
noticed a difference. And like a lot of my Linux
purist friends, they're against flatpaks. I'm
not. They're against snaps, app images. I think
they're cool. I don't use snaps because it roots
your computer. Again, they have a little too
much access for my liking. But I don't hate it.
I don't hate the project. There's very few projects
in Linux that I hate. Very few. What are your
friends going to say that you're talking to a
macOS guy? What's your audience going to think
that you're a sellout? And when you get the Apple
tattoo? When you get the Apple tattoo, what are
they going to do? Oh, now there's some fire there.
That won't happen, I can promise you. I know
you're trying to convert me. It's all good. No,
I respect everyone's opinions, you know, and
I respect what everyone decides to use. I have
had Josh, Joshua Blaze. He uses Emacs and he's
into Linux, right? And we just talk about Emacs
and Linux. I don't see the point, you know, I
don't see why would you have to take sides, right?
Just use whatever works for you. Right. And like
people have preferences, right? I have preferences
for Linux on moral reasons, but then on just
the fact that I like the ecosystem, I like using
it. been using it for so long that it's just
a part of who i am now yeah you cannot just change
who you are yeah yeah and you know i get like
you know i used mac for 30 years i used macintosh
off and on for 30 years um i get why people like
mac i do i mean i'm not going to sit there and
say That you're, oh, hey, come over here to Linux.
Oh, you want to record music and you want to
edit software? Well, it's just going to be all
roses and rainbows. I don't think that's reality.
Yeah, no. You have to be real, right? Yeah, but
there are workarounds. They aren't terrible anymore.
You know, if your moral compass says, hey, you
know, maybe I want to be a little less corporate
and a little bit more, you know, more grassroots,
you know, hacker -ish type. You know, this is
a problem that I have from Steve Jobs or from
Bill Gates. They were hackers in the 70s. Read
their history. They were hackers. But they won't
stop you from being a hacker. Like, imagine what
that does to the education in computer science.
Yeah. They just want to have end users. But I
guess they just want things to be simple. But
like this type of subjects, we feel passionate
about them, right? But if I give an Apple computer
or a Linux computer to my dad. And he cannot
even use Windows that well, you know? So how
many, what's the percentage of the population
that enjoys doing this type of stuff? Well, if
you gave him a Linux computer, like with like
the Cinnamon desktop or, yeah, yeah, something
like MX Linux or something. But then he has an
audio issue and he has to go into the terminal
and type some commands. Not generally, not if
he's got an older computer. Okay. No, no. Seriously,
I have zero audio issues. It is so rare. The
other day I had an audio issue using Jitsi. Okay.
And I don't know why there was that conflict,
but it cut my microphone off. And I was in a
live stream. And that kind of sucked because
for an hour I was mute. Oh, in the live stream.
I'm sitting there talking. And you still have
the video up? Yeah, I got it up. No, I didn't
take it down. That just happened a week ago,
actually. No, it happens everywhere. Because
I had a call with another guy. Lazar Nikolaev
is his name. He's also into macOS and all that
stuff. We did the same thing that we're doing
right now. But for some reason, my microphone
was dropping every five minutes. It was painful.
All of a sudden, he used to tell me, I cannot
hear you anymore. Oh, yeah. I heard that a couple
of times in that. That was the one that I saw,
yeah. Oh, no, but I caught those parts. I removed
those parts. Okay. Well, there was that one or
two that I think made it because I heard, like,
I can't hear you or something. Oh, really? Could
be. Could be that I missed it. Yeah, it could
be for sure. But, man, I did it. I don't know.
The microphone caught, like, in the call 10 or
15 times. It was painful. I had to be refreshing
the browser. But all I needed to do was a restart.
Now I learned it, you know, before I'm going
to do one of these calls, I'm just going to restart
the computer. Yes. Yes. I learned it the hard
way, man. Yesterday I had another call. I restarted
before. No issues. Today I restarted before.
No issues. No issues. Something gets stuck in
the way, you know, and just restart before. Yeah,
actually, when I teach English at night, I have
to run Windows in a virtual machine because I
refuse to. Dude, I have an i7 with an NVIDIA
graphics card. Am I going to run Windows on that?
Not likely. But anyway, so when I teach English,
like when I get done doing this kind of thing,
I have to restart the computer before or else
I might have issues. And sometimes I do. Yeah,
it's better just to play it safe. So what do
you say about this? Let's leave the video here
for now because we've been talking for two and
a half hours. I know that you have stuff to do.
I have stuff to do. My wife is probably sending
me messages and all that stuff. But let's see
what the audience says, right? If there is someone
still watching, let us know. Because I don't
know if people like these videos or not. I don't
know if people watch them till the end or not.
Because there's a few folks that do watch them
all the way through, right? So if there's someone
watching this, let me know in the comments. Hey,
I did like this. Please create part two. We can
get together and do it. Put after party in the
description in the section below. After party.
After party in the comments, right? Because there's
still a lot of stuff that we have to go through.
Color scheme, Tmux, keyboard, AI, the projects
that you're working on, applications. Yeah, a
lot of stuff. So, yeah, let us know down in the
comments if you like this type of video and if
you want to see more. And we still have a lot
of stuff to go through. So is there stuff that
you want to share before we wrap it up, Destin?
Oh, I think we've covered a lot of stuff and
you're probably going to get a lot of hate in
your comments, but just brace for impact. No,
actually, you know, the people that. So up to
my channel is pretty polite, pretty cool people.
There's always that one crazy guy, you know,
but that likes to troll, you know, but I just
play with them because it helps the algorithm.
The more trolls I get, you know, I take advantage
of them. You know, if I get a troll, I'll just
comment and I'll just ask him, why do you think
that is? And, you know, I just keep playing and
if they keep commenting, it's even better than
me. I do the same thing in Reddit. Reddit is
crazy, man. Neovem, man, I have got into fights.
I just don't get upset. I just keep commenting
and I just like for them to comment because it
helps, you know? But most of the people that
watch me are just, I don't know, they're pretty
calm, pretty nice people. Yeah. And I mean, same
here, but like some people, like when I make
the UUtils video, for example, they're like,
Thank you for making this video. You're the only
one that's got the balls to say what has been
on my mind. No one will actually say what you
just said. And I'm like, that makes me feel good.
Yeah, it does. A little bit. I'm almost 50 years
old. I don't care. Shoot all the darts you want
at me. I mean, it's not like you can kill me.
Or maybe you can. And it's just the internet,
right? Everyone, you know, can talk whatever
they want on the internet. Why take them seriously?
You know, if there's someone messing around,
like, why? I don't know. But I don't take it
personal. If someone jumps into the comments,
it's like, okay. Yeah, yeah. The only thing,
like, you know, sometimes they try to get really
personal and I'm like, Uh, usually like, uh,
I, I, I have some pretty good, uh, like I'll
come back with a, like a zinger or something
just to like, you know, like, and then they won't
respond. Yeah. Maybe they're bots or something.
I don't know. I don't know. It's good for the
channel. Now we got Russian bots here. Wouldn't
be surprised. Yeah. That's crazy. Alright, so
I guess that's it for today. Thanks for your
time. Really appreciate it. And I hope to see
you next time. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I definitely
want to see you again, too. I thoroughly enjoyed
this. We had so much fun. Oh, and just before
I leave, let me just put your channel here. Here
it is, guys. There's still someone watching.
Chasten talks about Linux mainly, Linux distros.
That's what I see here everywhere. Linux and
Neovim, right? So just go and subscribe if you're
interested in this type of content. Yeah, and
I'm going to start getting into more developer
type stuff too very soon as well. Okay, wonderful.
So anyway. Okay. All right, Chasten. Thank you
so much. See you. Bye. Bye.