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let's get started with this chapter then. Hey

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everyone, I have a special guest today, Linux

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DevLabs. How are you doing today, man? I'm doing

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pretty good, man. Thanks for having me on here.

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It's a real honor. I've been watching you for

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a while, and I'm really excited about this. Yeah.

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I'm subscribed to your channel as well. I don't

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know how it showed up in my feed, subscribed,

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and I was like, interesting. But this guy has

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to say, you know, and my content is mainly macOS

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related, but, you know. Well, I first saw you

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when you did that. uh neovim obsidian video the

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markdown video and i sent you a tweet and then

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uh you responded we kind of like went back and

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forth and then like one day i was up really early

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in the morning because i'd been teaching english

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all night and you were doing a live stream then

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we kind of chatted oh yeah playing skyrim i remember

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right yeah yeah i think so yeah yeah so Before

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we continue, just so that people can understand,

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we have on the call today, Linux Dev Labs has

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a YouTube channel, a lot of different videos,

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157 videos as of today. I'm not signed in at

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the moment. I'm using a private window, but I

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do watch your videos. Just in case you don't

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see that they're watched. here right now okay

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no no i got you i got yeah yeah yeah i i get

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a lot of heat sometimes with some of my videos

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like the one with the utils last week oh why

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well because like in the linux movement there's

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like a civil war going on between like the fsf

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and everyone else basically yeah fsf like they're

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very purist when it comes to like open source

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so it's like um the only way you could actually

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have a respect open source the way that gpl3

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had it in tinder the fsf had intended is like

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to have a 14 year old laptop basically Because

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the hardware won't work. You won't have NVIDIA

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drivers. You won't have anything. And so a lot

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of people, they have a lot of disagreements with

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that. I like the way the licenses are defined.

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I want them to stay the same. I'm not a purist.

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I'm not. But I do care about it. Yeah, no, I'm

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not an open source purist. I mean, I got an NVIDIA

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graphics card, so I need a proprietary driver

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for that. So I'm not a purist. But I want the

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definitions to stay the same because then there's

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like... Because it just seems like they'll murky

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up the waters with the big corporations. Right

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now, Microsoft is the biggest contributor to

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the Linux Foundation right now. So that's actually

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very problematic to me, actually. I mean, it's

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cool that they're giving us money, right? I think

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that's cool. But at the same time, it's like,

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OK, so they're giving us money for what exactly?

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And like, what do we have to do in return? That's

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my main concern. All right. And why did you say

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that your computer has to be quite old so you

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cannot have any proprietary software if you're?

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Yeah, the hardware will work. No drivers? Nothing,

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right? Well, you'll have drivers, but the only

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drivers that will work is a really old, like,

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ThinkPad or something. Oh, yeah. I see. Yeah.

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I see. And then, like, you would take the BIOS

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out and install LibreBoot in those nine yards.

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It's, like, really involved. I'm not there. But

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I do want the licenses to stay the same. Well,

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uutils is replacing like core utils, diff utils,

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that sort of thing. And they're doing it with

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an MIT license. And you're like that close to

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the kernel and you're using an MIT license of

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a GPL 3 .0 license or even just even a lesser

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GPL license. So this is the rewrite that Ubuntu

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did for the core utils, right? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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So the community is not into that? You're basically

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not into that, right? No, I'm not. Not at all.

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Just like I said in the video, I smell a rat.

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Okay. I see. I do. I smell a rat. And, you know,

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maybe it's all innocuous. You know, maybe like

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I'm overblowing this. Well, see, the thing is,

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is if they have an MIT license, then they can

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closed source it in the future. That's the risk.

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Okay. See, with a GPL3 license, they can never

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close source it. Everything has to stay open

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source. This is what happened with BSD. This

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is one of the reasons why I hate Mac. Yeah. So

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as long as distributions don't use those utils,

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they should be good, right? Yeah. Yeah, but they

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will. I'm almost certain Fedora will adopt it.

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I'm certain. I don't know. OpenSUSE is iffy.

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Arch is kind of iffy. Debian, maybe. But a lot

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of distributions are going to adopt that. Because

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it's written in Rust and it's safer. And it's

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like, it's core utils. Who cares if it's written

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in C? Seriously, when it comes to memory management,

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people need to know this. They're not developers,

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so they don't know this. They hear these buzzwords

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that it's safer, right? Here's the thing. Even

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in C, yeah, we don't have memory management built

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in, but there's things that we can do to make

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memory management like a reality. And they certainly

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did that. I'm sure of that. So like, it's all

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just a bunch of mental gymnastics as far as I'm

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concerned. Okay. Interesting. All right. We jumped

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into topics already. Yeah. Shooting. Shots fired

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already. You couldn't resist, right? You couldn't

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wait. No, not really. But, like, that's why I'm

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saying I get a lot of heat from it because there's

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that other side that hates everything I'm saying.

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The other day when I basically outed Christian

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Perso, the canone. because of some horrid coding

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practices and the fact that I got into a fight

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with him personally, I think. I'm pretty sure

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it was him. I'm not positive, but it was somebody.

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All I did was ask to revisit an issue so that

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I could close my XFCE terminal and not have it

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wait three seconds. Before closing. That was

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it. That's it, Dad. I'm a pretty easy guy to

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get along with, I think. We'll see. We expect

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to see a lot of drama in the video, I think,

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right? Yeah. Actually, I'm easy to get along

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with. When people understand kind of how I'm

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wired, they usually adapt pretty good to me.

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They just don't understand how I'm wired. And

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so they think like that I'm just like this person

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who's like out attacking everybody. That's not

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the case. Yeah. Yeah. So that's actually the

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reason for this call. You know, the topics, the

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topic, as you can see here is Linux versus Mac

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OS. It's not like that, you know, but we just

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want to share the different points of view. Right.

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I talk about Mac OS in my channel. all the time

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that's all i talk about so i want to have a different

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perspective as well you know so viewers can see

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you know different point of views as well i don't

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want just stuff to be just mac os related just

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want to you know hear what other people have

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to say and learn of course right yeah yeah no

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for sure i actually appreciate that you know

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like anybody will take the time to like talk

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with me for for an hour i Totally appreciate

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that. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Thanks to you for coming,

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man. Thanks to you for coming. Oh, I would have

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done that any day of the week. Yeah, absolutely.

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All right. So we already saw where we can find

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you. I already shared your YouTube channel. You

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want to share a little bit more about you, who

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you are, all that stuff? Anything you want to

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share? Yeah, sure. So anyway, my name is Shastan.

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I grew up in Alaska. And when I was about 20

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years old, I went to trade school. And in trade

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school, I kind of started learning Spanish. And

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then a couple of years later, I ended up moving

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to Mexico. And I work both as like a like a web

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developer slash sysadmin. And I also teach English

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at night. All right. All right. And how long

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have you been living in Mexico? And why? Like

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people, people's after the American dream. Were

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you after the Mexican dream or something or?

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That's a good question. So I think I was up for

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like an adventure because like when I was younger,

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I was. I literally was like hell on wheels, right?

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Like as a teenager, I was in drug into drugs

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and alcohol and stuff. And I just I needed to

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kind of reinvent myself. And so when I went to

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my and this is probably the part that, you know.

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When I went to trade school, my best friend was

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an ex -gang leader, and he became a Christian.

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And he took me to the Spanish -speaking church.

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And that was my exposure to the whole Spanish

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-speaking world initially. Actually, I had very

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little exposure to anything Spanish -related.

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And so, anyway. I learned to read Spanish really

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quick, you know, like back in the day, like this

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is before maybe some of your viewers were even

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alive, but that we used to have what were called

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overhead projectors, right? You'd put like this

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little clear piece of paper or clear plastic

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thing on the projector and it would project it

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on the wall. And so they would like sing their

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Spanish songs and I'd sit there and read them.

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And then I learned to pronounce like the words.

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And then I realized I'm not that bad at pronouncing

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the words. And then it was kind of funny because

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then after that, I started trying to learn to

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speak Spanish. And so I was like, OK, so I'll

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take all the words I know in English. I'll learn

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them in Spanish and I'll try and say them like

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I would say them in English. So that doesn't

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exactly work. So I found out really quickly.

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And then I realized really early on, too, that

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if I spoke Spanish, I actually learned way more

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than if I was sitting there in a book. I spoke

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it as often as possible. And so then for about

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like two or three years, I was really into it.

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And, you know, I was kind of basically like raised.

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I guess what you would call white trash. So this

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was something new for me. And it was like it

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would like bump me up a little bit above like

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the proverbial white trash, so to speak. Oh,

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I see. And you moved to Mexico then around your

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20s, something like that, right? Yeah, I was

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23 when I arrived in Mexico. I met my wife right

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before I turned 24. We got married the following

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year. That was a whole interesting thing, like

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the whole like cross cultures and things like

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that. It was really interesting. It was an eye

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opener. Did you get used to Mexican food already?

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Spicy stuff? Oh, absolutely. You like beans?

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Yeah. Yeah. Refried beans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Like, you know, eating like pozole or like carnitas

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or something like that. Yeah. I really like I

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have to have something like that, like at least

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once a week. And whenever I go back to the States,

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I like eat the food like I'll go to a restaurant

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and eat the food and the food's just bland. It's

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just like. uh i can't i i like after about two

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weeks i gotta go home man i'm like i i i'm hating

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this yeah so you're even even yeah even when

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i'm like it's funny like people and maybe you'll

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see why kind of your viewers might see why i'm

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a little opinionated but even when i'm in the

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line waiting to go through customs like i have

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like this like like this jerk like something's

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jerking me back to just turn and walk 180 degrees

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the other way because i it's just there's like

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this unspoken thing i was like i don't like this

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then once i get past customs i'm okay but yeah

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so you consider yourself more mexican then then

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yeah yeah yeah oh okay nice all right and why

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did you um decide to get started with youtube

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and when did this happen so i originally so i've

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had two previous channels on the same thing one

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i had in spanish to exert 76 and then i had one

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even before that and both times i I kind of quit

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right before I got monetized. And I kept seeing

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all of these people that I watch now, and they're

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all monetized, making a lot of money. One, for

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example, is DistroTube. I've been on his stream

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before on my first channel. I've been on his

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stream, and in fact, I'm the one that kind of,

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I was kind of coaching him along to install Arch

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Linux in a virtual machine. Back then? Yeah,

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back then. This was 2017. Okay. I had one of

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the first videos on how to install Arch Linux.

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That was like 2015 -ish. It was one of the first

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videos out how to install Arch Linux. Now it's

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like a dime a dozen. They're everywhere. Initially,

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I talked about things like Slackware, how to

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install Slackware, how to install the packages

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because you have to install everything from source

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on Slackware. yeah it's just yeah it's it's kind

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of it you know so i just quit and i just like

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so when i started learning development i was

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like well there's two things man like one this

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is kind of a resume i am showing people some

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things that i know okay yeah and the other part

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is You know, I'm kind of creating a brand for

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myself. Kind of like you, you're creating a brand

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for yourself, right? With the whole NeoVim, Tmux,

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browser space. You're creating a real niche,

00:17:05.890 --> 00:17:09.410
I think. A name for yourself, right? Just something,

00:17:09.670 --> 00:17:12.970
I don't know where it's going, but we'll see

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what happens in a few years, right? All right.

00:17:16.910 --> 00:17:19.410
Interesting. And yeah, you go down the rabbit

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hole and get into Emacs or something. Yeah, I

00:17:22.609 --> 00:17:24.549
already did. You know, yesterday I recorded a

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video with Josh. Oh, yeah. Emacs, the second

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video that I recorded about Emacs. He helped

00:17:30.470 --> 00:17:34.829
me go through art mode and stuff. So, yeah, I

00:17:34.829 --> 00:17:36.650
just want to have a different perspective as

00:17:36.650 --> 00:17:38.869
well. You know, it's not doesn't have to be just

00:17:38.869 --> 00:17:41.730
Neobim. I want to see what's out there, see what

00:17:41.730 --> 00:17:43.710
I like the best and, you know, just share it

00:17:43.710 --> 00:17:47.500
with people. Yeah. Yeah. And you had a different

00:17:47.500 --> 00:17:49.980
name on your YouTube channel, right? Why did

00:17:49.980 --> 00:17:56.539
you change it? Oh, right. So, yeah, I so like

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that was kind of a kind of a squirrely deal.

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I thought about Tinkerbell Linux and I didn't

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know that that Tinkerbell had been had a copyright

00:18:11.779 --> 00:18:17.920
on it. Oh, OK. And so I was kind of forced to

00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:22.299
change. Okay. Long story short then. Okay. Yeah.

00:18:22.619 --> 00:18:26.859
Okay. Yeah. You live and learn. I actually thought

00:18:26.859 --> 00:18:31.900
it was fairly innocuous what I was doing. I thought

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it was really obvious. And the other thing was

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I tried for a couple of videos. I just wanted

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to see how it would take if I did like... animation

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type you know like cartoon character type um

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characters and then just like you know tell the

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story behind it and some people got it and thought

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it was really funny and others didn't get it

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so much okay but my watch time went way down

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and uh although there was like three or four

00:19:02.230 --> 00:19:04.769
people go man that was so funny i can't believe

00:19:04.769 --> 00:19:08.109
you did that yeah but most didn't like it okay

00:19:08.109 --> 00:19:12.789
yeah interesting so this is yeah It's Linux dev

00:19:12.789 --> 00:19:15.670
labs now, right? Yeah. Yes. All right. All right.

00:19:16.369 --> 00:19:20.089
And, um, okay. So would you mind sharing two

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of your favorite music bands just to know a little

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bit more on that side? Um, well, I'm an eighties

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kid and grew up in the like stoner area era.

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So Metallica has to be there. Um, you know, um,

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i'm a big fan of aussie like when randy rhodes

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was around oh yeah that just like two albums

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so like aussie doesn't really i'm not a big fan

00:19:47.769 --> 00:19:51.009
of like zach wilde that much like he had a couple

00:19:51.009 --> 00:19:54.890
good songs but no not really what's the name

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of the song uh aussie and um randy rhodes i remember

00:20:00.130 --> 00:20:04.680
his guitar Mr. Crowley? Mr. Crowley, yeah. Wonderful

00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:08.059
solo, man. Yeah, it is, man. It's like, wow,

00:20:08.259 --> 00:20:12.400
yo. It's so terrible that he died way before

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his time. But anyway, I like a lot of 70s music.

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I like Hendrix, for example, a lot. Pink Floyd

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is pretty good. Yeah, I like 70s and 80s music.

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You like Deep Purple? Yeah, I like them. I mean,

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they're not my top, you know, but I listen to

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them, yeah, for sure. We're into the same type

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of music, I think. I like 70s, 80s music. I'm

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just tired of searching for music that I just

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tell, you know, Alexa to play Earth, Wind & Fire,

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for example, and it just plays. Bunny M. I like

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Bunny M as well. You know, that sort of music.

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But I used to be in metal a lot when I was younger.

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I was living the crazy life as well. I was doing

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alcohol and all that stuff, you know. So a lot

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of metal back then. But now not much anymore.

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Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of funny, you know, like

00:21:20.529 --> 00:21:24.230
when you finally grow up, if you survive that.

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Especially if you're doing the sex, drugs, and

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rock and roll thing. You actually survive that.

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Because a lot of people don't. Some of my friends

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didn't survive, unfortunately. If you survive

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it, a lot of times you just start thinking a

00:21:45.569 --> 00:21:49.710
little differently about things. Then your music

00:21:49.710 --> 00:21:53.200
tastes change. You know, it's funny, you know,

00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:55.299
when you're talking about music, like, I mean,

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I like Tracy Chapman. Like, she is so... awesome

00:22:00.690 --> 00:22:04.329
she has like this voice that her like nothing

00:22:04.329 --> 00:22:07.029
on the guitar really like stands out to me i'm

00:22:07.029 --> 00:22:10.049
not like hey you know but that voice is something

00:22:10.049 --> 00:22:14.690
special like okay you know um you know and sometimes

00:22:14.690 --> 00:22:18.670
like when i'm coding or when i'm you know you

00:22:18.670 --> 00:22:23.059
know working on my computer a lot of times Uh,

00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:27.200
what, uh, I will just listen to like, uh, like

00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:30.759
jazz music or blues or something like that. Yeah.

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Yep. I like listening to that as well. You know,

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I don't have a, I used to be a metal head and

00:22:36.519 --> 00:22:40.319
was just metal. If not, you were not a true metal

00:22:40.319 --> 00:22:44.980
head. But now, no, um, I'm not open to any of

00:22:44.980 --> 00:22:48.259
the new genres like reggaeton and all that stuff.

00:22:48.339 --> 00:22:53.130
No. no me neither reggaeton is hot trash also

00:22:53.130 --> 00:22:56.809
like the banda corri i mean the narco corridos

00:22:56.809 --> 00:23:00.789
and all that that crap i hate that stuff yeah

00:23:00.789 --> 00:23:04.750
i hate that stuff with a passion and like all

00:23:04.750 --> 00:23:08.430
of my neighbors play that non -stop oh yeah especially

00:23:08.430 --> 00:23:14.170
if you live in mexico or for sure yeah yeah and

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what would you say two of your favorite movies

00:23:16.190 --> 00:23:21.519
are you can name two Yeah, well, Matrix has to

00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:25.099
be the first one. I love that movie. Okay, the

00:23:25.099 --> 00:23:27.519
first one. Like, the whole series, but, you know,

00:23:27.619 --> 00:23:31.140
especially the first one. It's like, it kind

00:23:31.140 --> 00:23:36.559
of, like, I kind of realized, like, some of this,

00:23:36.579 --> 00:23:39.619
like, that's going around us isn't as real as

00:23:39.619 --> 00:23:42.859
we'd like to think it is. Like, even though,

00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:47.359
like, so it was like. almost it was very surreal

00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:50.960
how they put that together and and stuff then

00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:55.660
there was um let's see here i like back to the

00:23:55.660 --> 00:23:59.019
future is good i think maybe something like that

00:23:59.019 --> 00:24:04.319
or shawshank redemption oh yeah yeah i like that

00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:09.099
there's a few others that i really like as well

00:24:09.099 --> 00:24:13.450
but yeah Yeah, I watch that every once in a while.

00:24:13.529 --> 00:24:16.150
And I just think that was like the coolest movie

00:24:16.150 --> 00:24:22.250
ever. Like, yeah, I guess for some reason, that's

00:24:22.250 --> 00:24:26.970
the number one played movie on TNT. Shawshank

00:24:26.970 --> 00:24:30.930
Redemption. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's for, we could

00:24:30.930 --> 00:24:33.089
say not for old people, but for people getting

00:24:33.089 --> 00:24:36.730
to that age. I like it too. I watched it. Good

00:24:36.730 --> 00:24:41.440
movie. Yeah. Yeah. And are you into video games?

00:24:42.140 --> 00:24:46.660
Not really. No? I sometimes play like a little

00:24:46.660 --> 00:24:49.059
bit of video games on my live stream sometimes,

00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.599
very rarely. But every once in a while, like

00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.279
I've been kind of thinking like doing my live

00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:57.559
streams, maybe I should play a few more video

00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:02.240
games. But I'm not like a big video game person.

00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:05.200
And the reason why is like a lot of the shooter

00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:07.359
games, those would probably be the ones I would

00:25:07.359 --> 00:25:11.640
like. They make me dizzy. Yeah. They make me

00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:16.480
motion sick, man. Because I don't have any control

00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:19.819
over the movements. I still haven't figured it

00:25:19.819 --> 00:25:23.480
out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it, yeah. Yeah,

00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:25.559
I get motion sick. I'm like, yeah, I don't want

00:25:25.559 --> 00:25:28.500
to do that for a while. And then I get the great

00:25:28.500 --> 00:25:30.819
idea that I want to try it again, and I get motion

00:25:30.819 --> 00:25:34.240
sickness again. And you're just saying, no, it's

00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:38.539
not for me anymore. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I know

00:25:38.539 --> 00:25:42.279
people that are my age. How old are you, by the

00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:44.700
way, if you want to share that? No, not a problem.

00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:51.140
49. 49? Okay. Yeah. You're not old. Yeah. Well,

00:25:51.259 --> 00:25:54.660
I've already had open -heart surgery, so I'm

00:25:54.660 --> 00:25:58.720
old enough. That was my 47th birthday present.

00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:01.619
They were like, yeah, happy birthday, and you

00:26:01.619 --> 00:26:06.119
need surgery now. Oh, man. Yeah, they were like,

00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:16.220
sí o sí. Oh, really? Like, a huevo. But you got

00:26:16.220 --> 00:26:19.359
better after the surgery? Oh, yeah, I got really

00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:21.980
good. Yeah, actually, it's a miracle because...

00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:28.160
I started having symptoms of angina, and then

00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:31.920
I asked my dad about it because he's an emergency

00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:36.980
room nurse, or he was. And he also knows a lot

00:26:36.980 --> 00:26:41.759
about cardiology and that sort of thing. And

00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:44.339
so I told him about the symptoms I was having

00:26:44.339 --> 00:26:47.200
when I was out riding my bike, and he was like,

00:26:47.299 --> 00:26:51.319
that's angina. He's like, you need to get to

00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:55.759
a cardiologist. oh really yeah and so then when

00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:57.940
i went and got my angiogram which is basically

00:26:57.940 --> 00:27:01.720
they like shove this tube in your in your um

00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:06.900
in your artery and they pump a bunch of dye inside

00:27:06.900 --> 00:27:09.680
of your bloodstream to see what's going on around

00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:11.839
your heart like a green color or something like

00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.420
that right yeah and so then they realized there's

00:27:15.420 --> 00:27:21.819
a 99 blockage oh really yeah oh But they uncluttered

00:27:21.819 --> 00:27:25.200
that and you're good now? Well, they did a bypass.

00:27:25.380 --> 00:27:28.579
So they did a quadruple bypass. They just took

00:27:28.579 --> 00:27:31.400
like the artery out of my arm and vein is out

00:27:31.400 --> 00:27:35.759
of my legs. And why is that? Too much cholesterol?

00:27:36.859 --> 00:27:40.400
No, cholesterol is not a bad thing. It wasn't.

00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:43.960
It's hereditary. Oh, I see. In my family, we

00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:48.150
have heart disease. We don't have cancer. Oh,

00:27:48.230 --> 00:27:53.349
heart disease, okay. It's like pretty much everyone

00:27:53.349 --> 00:27:57.269
in my family, like both of my grandfathers, for

00:27:57.269 --> 00:28:02.329
example, had heart disease. My grandfather on

00:28:02.329 --> 00:28:14.089
my mom's side, he had the same surgery when he

00:28:14.089 --> 00:28:18.339
was 53. Okay. very very it's just hereditary

00:28:18.339 --> 00:28:21.799
i think okay okay but it's good to hear that

00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.660
you're better now yeah yeah moving on then to

00:28:25.660 --> 00:28:29.279
the next topic um what's your tool for note taking

00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:34.400
do you take any notes or oh yeah um so i i use

00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:38.619
neovim i kind of like you do except i actually

00:28:38.619 --> 00:28:42.099
do use the obsidian .nvim and then i wrote a

00:28:42.099 --> 00:28:45.789
bunch of scripts for it okay So you use Neopim

00:28:45.789 --> 00:28:49.089
mainly for, and is it Markdown or you use a different

00:28:49.089 --> 00:28:52.569
format? No, Markdown. Markdown and Neopim. Okay,

00:28:52.690 --> 00:28:56.990
great. Yeah. And, uh -huh. Yeah, so, yeah, I

00:28:56.990 --> 00:28:59.930
just wrote a bunch of scripts, like, basically,

00:29:00.230 --> 00:29:04.230
actually, let's see here. I can probably share

00:29:04.230 --> 00:29:06.950
my screen if I can get over here. All right.

00:29:10.509 --> 00:29:17.400
Right here. Let's see here. like if i come in

00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:21.259
here i have a bunch of aliases as well that i

00:29:21.259 --> 00:29:26.000
use for bash because i still use i use bash i'm

00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:33.200
not a zsh person okay like if i do oh sorry all

00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:41.269
right if i do like um this i can write a new

00:29:41.269 --> 00:29:46.829
note and so now i have like say i wanted to write

00:29:46.829 --> 00:29:56.170
my if i can see pithy notes and then i come in

00:29:56.170 --> 00:30:00.289
here i got a bunch of stuff here i usually just

00:30:00.289 --> 00:30:03.849
delete this stuff but like i have the tags here

00:30:03.849 --> 00:30:15.059
so i can have um my pithy tags and so then later

00:30:15.059 --> 00:30:19.599
on when i want to um let's see if this will work

00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:21.759
it won't work because there's something going

00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:26.779
on here i haven't i've just uh updated my system

00:30:26.779 --> 00:30:29.900
and there's something going on with that but

00:30:29.900 --> 00:30:35.579
i can actually use the fuzzy finder to um to

00:30:35.579 --> 00:30:38.779
you know like access all of my tags and i can

00:30:38.779 --> 00:30:42.279
get really quickly i can find whatever it is

00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:45.119
that i'm looking for and i have a lot of other

00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:51.799
scripts like i have scripts for uh like um like

00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:56.519
it will list all of the uh header one and header

00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.759
two like in a preview on the top When I'm done

00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.859
writing my notes and things like that, I have

00:31:03.859 --> 00:31:07.539
a lot of that kind of stuff. Oh, interesting.

00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:19.900
Yeah. But I basically, like, if I do... So I'm

00:31:19.900 --> 00:31:24.119
using Astro right now. That's what I landed on

00:31:24.119 --> 00:31:28.680
because... I like Folky and, what is it, Lazy

00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:32.559
and Vim, but it's just too much. Like, I would

00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.859
have to, like, gut it to actually be able to

00:31:34.859 --> 00:31:40.619
use it quite a bit. So, oh, wait. I went one

00:31:40.619 --> 00:31:50.460
too far. Okay. I guess I could have just, yeah,

00:31:50.660 --> 00:31:53.200
could have done something else. So here's all

00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:57.059
of my. Um, like the one like done, I move all

00:31:57.059 --> 00:32:03.259
of my, um, all of my to do stuff that's done

00:32:03.259 --> 00:32:06.660
to a different folder. And then I write like

00:32:06.660 --> 00:32:09.200
a journal, like detailing everything that I've

00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:13.160
done for the week or whatever fold as I have

00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:16.859
a special folding the way I like to fold it.

00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:20.920
And so, like, I like to fold it, but I like to

00:32:20.920 --> 00:32:23.240
be the one that controls that a little bit more.

00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.960
So I wrote a script for that. And this is the

00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:33.680
fold, the markdown headings? Yeah. Yeah. Well,

00:32:34.259 --> 00:32:37.279
it's not. Yeah, it's the markdown. And even when

00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:44.720
I'm writing code and stuff. So let me see here.

00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:54.440
Let me. All right, so now I have this bad habit

00:32:54.440 --> 00:33:00.420
of closing my screen because I used NeoVim with

00:33:00.420 --> 00:33:05.920
Plug for so many years, and setting up buffers

00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.500
was harder than just closing the window back

00:33:09.500 --> 00:33:13.839
in the day. So let's see here. I have word wrap.

00:33:14.099 --> 00:33:20.519
So now that wraps the word. So if I so like in

00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:24.019
my markdown text, I have word wrap. And so I

00:33:24.019 --> 00:33:34.519
set that up. And what else did I do? Config folders

00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.880
of this list, the config folders. That's in my.

00:33:40.269 --> 00:33:46.509
That's in my .config file, so I can have really

00:33:46.509 --> 00:33:52.390
quick access to them. And let's see, my notes,

00:33:52.390 --> 00:33:55.670
just basically like I said. Then I have this

00:33:55.670 --> 00:33:58.970
one, which is good because a lot of times when

00:33:58.970 --> 00:34:06.119
I'm... A lot of times when... i am coding like

00:34:06.119 --> 00:34:10.199
if i'm writing a django app so if i do i think

00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:15.860
it's now i have a floating terminal and now like

00:34:15.860 --> 00:34:21.239
if i had like python i guess it would be python

00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:27.500
3 manage pi run server and then it would run

00:34:27.500 --> 00:34:34.980
in the background and then i can Then I can close

00:34:34.980 --> 00:34:41.320
it and it's running in the background. So I like

00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:43.500
that because it will run in the background while

00:34:43.500 --> 00:34:46.639
I'm doing the coding and it's out of my way.

00:34:47.099 --> 00:34:51.760
Okay. Interesting. Okay. But then mainly your

00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:55.719
note taking is Neobim then and you have your

00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:59.769
own scripts to manage stuff. your weekly notes

00:34:59.769 --> 00:35:03.269
headings and all that okay yeah yeah actually

00:35:03.269 --> 00:35:05.630
i showed you a lot more than that i guess huh

00:35:05.630 --> 00:35:08.829
yeah that's fine it's fine it's gonna be a long

00:35:08.829 --> 00:35:12.110
video so if there's someone watching just get

00:35:12.110 --> 00:35:17.630
ready and um what's your current uh your current

00:35:17.630 --> 00:35:20.130
operating system what are you using right now

00:35:20.130 --> 00:35:23.969
okay so that's really interesting i'm using um

00:35:24.860 --> 00:35:29.139
aurora linux and so this is part of the ublue

00:35:29.139 --> 00:35:33.480
series and basically the cool part about this

00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:37.980
is is that the core is immutable or almost immutable

00:35:37.980 --> 00:35:40.679
like you have to ask really really nicely if

00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:46.239
you want to add anything to the core and uh but

00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:50.159
they give you like flat packs to install the

00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:54.909
stuff They also give you distro boxes. This is

00:35:54.909 --> 00:35:57.909
my favorite containerization tool, for example.

00:35:59.030 --> 00:36:02.429
Let's see if I can find it. Oh, it's right here.

00:36:02.590 --> 00:36:10.809
It's called BoxBuddy. You can just spin up a

00:36:10.809 --> 00:36:19.500
version of Arch Linux. make that a little bit

00:36:19.500 --> 00:36:22.820
bigger and so like you can spin up like a version

00:36:22.820 --> 00:36:26.380
of like arch linux or alpine or whatever your

00:36:26.380 --> 00:36:30.920
distro of choice is you know to install like

00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:35.300
a package or install like a an application so

00:36:35.300 --> 00:36:39.920
say like you like gimp 3 and how like arch linux

00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.119
packages it basically you can like install it

00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:45.679
from arch linux and then it will show up right

00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.929
here in the right here in the menu okay so is

00:36:50.929 --> 00:36:54.309
this box buddy is it like a docker that allows

00:36:54.309 --> 00:36:58.010
it is darker yeah but it's not docker it's something

00:36:58.010 --> 00:37:00.590
else that allows you to run containers basically

00:37:00.590 --> 00:37:04.809
or no it is yeah it's just a gui around like

00:37:04.809 --> 00:37:08.389
a bunch of docker images and podman images but

00:37:08.389 --> 00:37:11.389
yeah okay but you don't have to install docker

00:37:11.389 --> 00:37:15.619
you just install box buddy Actually, this comes

00:37:15.619 --> 00:37:19.880
right with the distro, actually. They give you

00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:23.420
a lot of stuff. They even give you homebrew in

00:37:23.420 --> 00:37:27.289
this distro, which is wild to me. Okay. Yeah,

00:37:27.349 --> 00:37:31.730
so there's like BoxBuddy. They give you Homebrew

00:37:31.730 --> 00:37:36.010
to install things. Then you can use like RPM

00:37:36.010 --> 00:37:38.630
OS tree. That's how you install it to the core,

00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:43.030
which I don't recommend. And then unless you

00:37:43.030 --> 00:37:45.030
absolutely have to, I had to install a couple

00:37:45.030 --> 00:37:48.590
of things to make things work. And then I'm still

00:37:48.590 --> 00:37:50.610
getting used to it because like there's this

00:37:50.610 --> 00:37:53.550
whole thing between we're in this weird transition

00:37:53.550 --> 00:38:00.840
between Wayland and X. Or Xorg, basically. So

00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:04.280
that's the window compositing and a bunch of

00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:08.219
other things. So Xorg basically handles all of

00:38:08.219 --> 00:38:12.000
your peripheral devices, including your screen

00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:17.320
and things like that. And Wayland is going to

00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:22.940
replace it, but it's a little safer, as they

00:38:22.940 --> 00:38:27.130
say. I don't know. I have mixed feelings. Like

00:38:27.130 --> 00:38:29.849
I can see the logic behind what they're doing,

00:38:29.909 --> 00:38:34.869
but it's part of that civil war I was talking

00:38:34.869 --> 00:38:39.750
about. Like everybody's like, so I'm getting

00:38:39.750 --> 00:38:43.250
used to like everything on Wayland now on a Wayland

00:38:43.250 --> 00:38:46.250
desktop. But anyway, it's, it's pretty cool.

00:38:46.389 --> 00:38:50.429
But yeah, I have a lot of other cool things though,

00:38:50.510 --> 00:38:55.619
but a lot of cool stuff that I'm, you know i've

00:38:55.619 --> 00:39:00.380
been doing um with that but um anyway that yeah

00:39:00.380 --> 00:39:03.420
pretty much i've been using aurora linux or linux

00:39:03.420 --> 00:39:06.559
for how long for you a couple weeks a couple

00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.179
weeks so you just tried different just barely

00:39:09.179 --> 00:39:13.039
switched yeah yeah you just wiped um or you create

00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:15.639
new partitions or wipe everything and just install

00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:18.920
the new distro i just wiped it yeah yeah and

00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:22.679
isn't that a lot of work like It was. It took

00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:26.559
me a couple of days. I basically pushed everything

00:39:26.559 --> 00:39:31.159
off to a different hard drive, wiped it, reinstalled

00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:33.940
it. But you like doing that, right? That's something

00:39:33.940 --> 00:39:38.579
that you... Yeah, I don't do it very often, but

00:39:38.579 --> 00:39:41.480
I was looking at this distro and I was just so

00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.280
floored by some of the technology. Like, they

00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:49.099
have... a lot of different technologies for developers

00:39:49.099 --> 00:39:54.280
that i would use so i said i gotta try this out

00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:57.840
this is and i think this is the this is the future

00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.900
of linux because this distro is cloud native

00:40:01.900 --> 00:40:05.320
you as a kubernetes guy you'll understand this

00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:08.760
but like when i want to change like a desktop

00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:12.219
environment or change like fundamentally change

00:40:12.219 --> 00:40:17.179
the system I do it through a Docker image. Like

00:40:17.179 --> 00:40:20.300
I pull it down a Docker image, it respends a

00:40:20.300 --> 00:40:25.980
brand new image that installs to the main core

00:40:25.980 --> 00:40:29.519
of my system. Oh, interesting. So everything

00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:33.039
is container related. If I want to install NeoVim,

00:40:33.139 --> 00:40:36.300
I can do it through a Docker container? Yeah.

00:40:36.500 --> 00:40:39.880
In Aura Linux? Yeah. And that's the way you have

00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.469
NeoVim installed, right? i think so yeah i think

00:40:43.469 --> 00:40:46.550
actually i used homebrew to install neovim but

00:40:46.550 --> 00:40:48.969
okay but there are multiple containers that you

00:40:48.969 --> 00:40:52.530
can install directly and the apps run and they

00:40:52.530 --> 00:40:56.369
work fine right yeah yeah i had some problems

00:40:56.369 --> 00:41:04.489
but um like for example um let's see here so

00:41:04.489 --> 00:41:07.550
that's like the main goal of this distribution

00:41:07.550 --> 00:41:11.639
to have stuff containerized right yes instead

00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:14.659
of uh flat packs i think they're called right

00:41:14.659 --> 00:41:17.820
and um i don't know the traditional way of installing

00:41:17.820 --> 00:41:23.619
packages you do it as containers yes i like that

00:41:23.619 --> 00:41:29.340
idea i i do too i i like the idea in theory But

00:41:29.340 --> 00:41:33.840
it kind of ties your hands a little bit. So like

00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:37.800
there's one other thing about like in my NeoVim

00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.119
configuration took me forever to figure this

00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:48.139
out. So I'll show it really quick. Oh, no. So

00:41:48.139 --> 00:41:51.880
this is part of my second brain that I have for

00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:55.699
note taking. I have another cool thing that I

00:41:55.699 --> 00:41:58.920
set up. And I actually have to get my Arch box.

00:41:59.219 --> 00:42:05.719
I forgot. This one was hard to figure out for

00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:11.480
me. So you just start a container that is running

00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:15.039
Arch? So you're basically running Arch as a container

00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:20.119
in your computer, right? Yeah. Okay, got it.

00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:24.760
Yeah, and the only reason why is because... There

00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:32.940
was a weird update to Pandoc that didn't allow

00:42:32.940 --> 00:42:41.960
me to do something. So if I go... Can everybody

00:42:41.960 --> 00:42:44.480
see that? Yep. Or do I need to make... Okay,

00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:48.219
got it. All right. Let me see here. Just don't

00:42:48.219 --> 00:42:50.860
open that Chrome passwords, that CSV file you

00:42:50.860 --> 00:42:57.059
have there. No, no, God, no. yeah i had to yeah

00:42:57.059 --> 00:43:01.119
that was a whole nother thing so say i want to

00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:10.420
um i can go okay i'm gonna open something up

00:43:10.420 --> 00:43:18.119
i don't know what i got here so if i hit f4 so

00:43:18.119 --> 00:43:23.150
now if i hit f4 I have, and this actually is

00:43:23.150 --> 00:43:28.650
very handy. So, like, basically, like, I can

00:43:28.650 --> 00:43:32.409
see how it will be on my page live. This is a

00:43:32.409 --> 00:43:36.489
PDF viewer right next to me. And this is something

00:43:36.489 --> 00:43:40.050
that I set up. It took me forever to figure this

00:43:40.050 --> 00:43:45.210
out, but I finally did it. Okay. So, yeah. To

00:43:45.210 --> 00:43:49.210
preview your markdown file, right? Yeah, in a

00:43:49.210 --> 00:43:52.510
PDF format. And can you see the headings? Can

00:43:52.510 --> 00:43:54.789
you see what's inside the headings or there's...

00:43:54.789 --> 00:43:57.710
No, I won't see what's inside the headings. I'll

00:43:57.710 --> 00:44:00.869
just see what the document. Oh, okay. I see.

00:44:01.010 --> 00:44:04.510
Okay. Yeah. Something like that. And then, so,

00:44:04.590 --> 00:44:06.590
and then they're side by side and I could be

00:44:06.590 --> 00:44:11.210
taking my notes and they populate. It has a little

00:44:11.210 --> 00:44:14.909
bit of latency. It's like 10 seconds, but I can

00:44:14.909 --> 00:44:18.449
see within 10 seconds, I can see like how everything's

00:44:18.449 --> 00:44:21.110
going to look. Have you tried this one? Let me

00:44:21.110 --> 00:44:25.530
show you something real quick. Is it the one

00:44:25.530 --> 00:44:32.710
in the browser? I don't know. No. Yeah, the one

00:44:32.710 --> 00:44:36.730
in the browser. Markdown. Yeah, I think I have

00:44:36.730 --> 00:44:41.619
that. But I don't want to open, sometimes I don't

00:44:41.619 --> 00:44:44.719
want to open up a browser, but, you know, sometimes

00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:48.280
I just want to see, you know. It took me a while

00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:55.300
to set that up, though. And that one is the NAP

00:44:55.300 --> 00:45:02.659
-NVM by, I forget how to. I forget his name.

00:45:02.820 --> 00:45:07.420
It starts with an F. But anyway, it's the knap

00:45:07.420 --> 00:45:12.599
.inven. And I set that up. And that's a really

00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:16.380
useful tool to me. And the only reason why I

00:45:16.380 --> 00:45:18.719
had to do it in an Arch box is because there

00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:22.980
was an update to Pandoc. And Arch Linux still

00:45:22.980 --> 00:45:27.340
had the old version and allowed me to do this.

00:45:27.420 --> 00:45:32.130
So I basically did that that way. So you can

00:45:32.130 --> 00:45:35.030
interact from your main OS. You can interact

00:45:35.030 --> 00:45:37.989
with the Arch machine, with the packages installed

00:45:37.989 --> 00:45:41.050
in the Arch machine and use them, right? Yes.

00:45:41.469 --> 00:45:45.170
Okay. Interesting. Okay. That is so cool. So

00:45:45.170 --> 00:45:50.150
anyway, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And what's your

00:45:50.150 --> 00:45:54.750
favorite desktop distros? We already went over

00:45:54.750 --> 00:45:57.130
Aurora Linux. I guess that's one of them. You

00:45:57.130 --> 00:46:00.469
want to mention quickly two other ones? Well,

00:46:00.530 --> 00:46:04.489
I always have a soft spot for Arch Linux. I used

00:46:04.489 --> 00:46:07.909
it for 10 years. I mean, I got it tattooed. Yeah,

00:46:07.989 --> 00:46:13.889
I got it tattooed to my arm. So, yeah, it was

00:46:13.889 --> 00:46:16.750
just a crazy thing. I used Arch Linux for 10

00:46:16.750 --> 00:46:21.869
years. I loved it. But, you know, some of the

00:46:21.869 --> 00:46:25.090
maintainers in the AUR, they just wrote packages

00:46:25.090 --> 00:46:31.000
that aren't. I don't know how to say it. It's

00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:34.820
just they don't maintain the packages correctly.

00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:40.619
I'll just put it that way. If you take a look

00:46:40.619 --> 00:46:43.079
at how they maintain packages in the Pac -Man

00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:47.099
repo, they take a lot of care, more care than

00:46:47.099 --> 00:46:51.159
probably most distros, like maybe Ubuntu, for

00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:55.139
example. It's only a little shade. I like the

00:46:55.139 --> 00:46:57.500
whole Fedora thing. Like, they're doing good.

00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.900
And I'm actually warming up to OpenSUSE lately,

00:47:01.179 --> 00:47:04.980
which kind of surprises me. I had a video until

00:47:04.980 --> 00:47:09.760
the other day saying that OpenSUSE should die.

00:47:10.889 --> 00:47:13.170
Because I was talking about the desktop, not

00:47:13.170 --> 00:47:15.349
the server. I like their servers. I've always

00:47:15.349 --> 00:47:18.030
liked their server stuff, but I don't like it.

00:47:18.130 --> 00:47:23.110
I didn't get it. Their package manager is, like,

00:47:23.150 --> 00:47:26.210
uber slow, and I didn't get it. But now I kind

00:47:26.210 --> 00:47:29.329
of get some of the tools. So it's kind of like

00:47:29.329 --> 00:47:33.050
being immutable without being immutable, so to

00:47:33.050 --> 00:47:38.860
speak. So, like, you're able to roll back. You

00:47:38.860 --> 00:47:41.480
know, your packages or whatever, whenever there's

00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:44.179
like a huge conflict that breaks your system,

00:47:44.219 --> 00:47:48.679
you can just roll it back a couple of, you know,

00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:52.440
a couple of updates and go back to where you

00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:54.039
were. To where you were. Okay, yeah, that's really

00:47:54.039 --> 00:47:57.159
important. Breaking changes. Yeah. Is that why

00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.000
you moved away from Arch a little bit? Breaking

00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.119
changes? Is that why? Yeah, that was exactly

00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.139
why. Okay. There's a lot of people that move

00:48:05.139 --> 00:48:08.610
away in Neovim from distros. to their own config

00:48:08.610 --> 00:48:10.929
or to other distros because of breaking changes

00:48:10.929 --> 00:48:14.110
i haven't used linux on the desktop so i'm not

00:48:14.110 --> 00:48:17.690
familiarized with that but if you know breaking

00:48:17.690 --> 00:48:20.349
it's kind of like that yeah yeah it they cause

00:48:20.349 --> 00:48:22.730
pain and they're like man i don't want to deal

00:48:22.730 --> 00:48:26.010
with this right now and it's the worst time that

00:48:26.010 --> 00:48:29.630
it always happens i imagine feeling that way

00:48:29.630 --> 00:48:33.000
with my operating system i would get pissed right

00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:37.119
yeah yeah especially like so this is how it would

00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.800
work in arch linux okay so um like you would

00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.920
have a package conflict because they had just

00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:47.179
updated a package at conflicts with like 20 different

00:48:47.179 --> 00:48:52.179
applications okay and so you'd have to uninstall

00:48:52.179 --> 00:48:54.760
all those applications their dependencies everything

00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:59.739
else do the update and then reinstall all of

00:48:59.739 --> 00:49:05.219
the applications oh god Yeah, that was a little,

00:49:08.820 --> 00:49:10.760
like, and sometimes I wouldn't be able to do

00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:16.900
it. And now they've since allowed you to update

00:49:16.900 --> 00:49:21.880
the Pac -Man keys and just do your update from

00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:26.800
there. But before, I tried that a couple of times

00:49:26.800 --> 00:49:29.519
and it didn't really work for me. But I think

00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:31.800
a lot of people are saying that that's working

00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:36.369
right now. So, I don't know. I don't use Arch

00:49:36.369 --> 00:49:39.670
enough to really care about it. Okay. And there's

00:49:39.670 --> 00:49:42.769
rumors out there that you're going to get an

00:49:42.769 --> 00:49:46.150
Apple logo on the other arm after this call?

00:49:48.909 --> 00:49:56.050
Yeah, if hell freezes over. Oh, man. So, here's

00:49:56.050 --> 00:50:02.059
like three things. My first distro that I installed

00:50:02.059 --> 00:50:06.739
was Gen 2 Linux. I installed it on an iMac G5.

00:50:08.099 --> 00:50:12.260
And the reason why is because I got a half an

00:50:12.260 --> 00:50:17.480
upgrade. So that came with Leopard. And then

00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.940
it would upgrade to Snow Leopard. But this was

00:50:19.940 --> 00:50:23.099
right before they went to the Intel chips. Okay.

00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:28.730
So nothing would install in Snow Leopard. So

00:50:28.730 --> 00:50:33.670
I didn't get any upgrades, really. And I needed

00:50:33.670 --> 00:50:36.489
my computer. So I was like, well, at least give

00:50:36.489 --> 00:50:39.849
me a browser and some stuff. So you have to get

00:50:39.849 --> 00:50:45.449
past that wonky bootloader. I have my own opinions

00:50:45.449 --> 00:50:50.630
on that, too. So you got to get past that wonky

00:50:50.630 --> 00:50:53.670
bootloader. And so there was only a couple of

00:50:53.670 --> 00:50:55.869
distros that would do it. So I burned that first.

00:50:56.460 --> 00:50:59.619
burned a Linux mint, they were supposed to get

00:50:59.619 --> 00:51:02.699
passive bootloader, and it did. But once I got

00:51:02.699 --> 00:51:06.219
passive bootloader, it wasn't a good image. So

00:51:06.219 --> 00:51:12.480
I installed the Gen 2 Linux version, which you

00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.519
have to do everything by hand. It's like Arch

00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:18.719
Linux on steroids. You install everything from

00:51:18.719 --> 00:51:22.500
the terminal. But it's on steroids. It's like

00:51:22.500 --> 00:51:26.110
installing an LFS on Linux from scratch. essentially

00:51:26.110 --> 00:51:29.090
that was my first distro took me like three weeks

00:51:29.090 --> 00:51:32.050
like i don't know how many times i went through

00:51:32.050 --> 00:51:36.110
the installation and redid it it took me a long

00:51:36.110 --> 00:51:41.469
time but i finally got it it was i i was like

00:51:41.469 --> 00:51:48.289
wow so um that that kind of rubbed me the wrong

00:51:48.289 --> 00:51:52.539
way that they would release a machine knowing

00:51:52.539 --> 00:51:55.320
that they were going to a different chip and

00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:57.639
that they weren't going to have any updates because

00:51:57.639 --> 00:52:02.079
normally with with with macintosh i've used mac

00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:06.800
since 1983 with the apple 2c i'm very familiar

00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:10.980
with mac okay i'm very familiar with the way

00:52:10.980 --> 00:52:14.469
they do things and everything else but you normally

00:52:14.469 --> 00:52:17.949
get updates you can upgrade like if you you know

00:52:17.949 --> 00:52:23.489
like i had uh what was that the g3 laptop um

00:52:23.489 --> 00:52:33.219
i got upgrades from osx 10 .1 to 10 .6 For example,

00:52:33.380 --> 00:52:37.659
this is a, which was what, Snow Leopard, I think

00:52:37.659 --> 00:52:40.920
it was? I have no idea about the numbers. I don't

00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:43.159
even know what number the current one that I'm

00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:47.719
using right now is. Wow. Sequoia. I don't know

00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:51.920
the number. Yeah. And so then there was another

00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:58.920
issue, my dad. I detailed this in a video of

00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:00.679
why Macs suck. Oh, I watched that one. Yeah.

00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:06.079
My dad had thousands and thousands of dollars

00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:09.539
worth of music that they just took out of iTunes

00:53:09.539 --> 00:53:14.619
that he had uploaded. And when he called him

00:53:14.619 --> 00:53:16.039
about it, I was like, oh, well, you don't own

00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:21.460
the software. Okay, no warning. No, hey, get

00:53:21.460 --> 00:53:24.860
your stuff off iTunes because we're going to

00:53:24.860 --> 00:53:28.480
take it off. No, let's just cost you thousands

00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:32.570
of dollars. they could have cared less. Oh, I

00:53:32.570 --> 00:53:35.610
see. So he had his, his songs in iTunes there.

00:53:36.110 --> 00:53:38.730
Yeah. Yeah. So iTunes does not exist anymore.

00:53:38.829 --> 00:53:41.769
I think it's the music. Oh, it's music app, but

00:53:41.769 --> 00:53:44.050
yeah, but I mean, it's not compatible anymore.

00:53:45.050 --> 00:53:49.349
Yes. No. So like, I don't remember. Okay. So

00:53:49.349 --> 00:53:52.989
I call it iTunes. It's music now, but that's

00:53:52.989 --> 00:53:58.849
what iTunes used to be, I guess. Yeah. So, yeah

00:53:58.849 --> 00:54:01.750
i i'm way back you know like you have to understand

00:54:01.750 --> 00:54:06.869
i quit using macintosh a long time ago but i

00:54:06.869 --> 00:54:11.670
thought that was such a move that and then after

00:54:11.670 --> 00:54:16.030
that i read the history like how like the whole

00:54:16.030 --> 00:54:21.090
bsd thing like how So there was an agreement

00:54:21.090 --> 00:54:23.710
with Steve Jobs that he was going to take a lot

00:54:23.710 --> 00:54:26.110
of this technology, but that he was going to

00:54:26.110 --> 00:54:30.409
give some money in return and stuff like that.

00:54:31.269 --> 00:54:33.909
I mean, he probably did give the bare minimum

00:54:33.909 --> 00:54:38.489
he was required to, but you've got a $3 trillion

00:54:38.489 --> 00:54:43.949
industry in Apple right now. Kick some money

00:54:43.949 --> 00:54:47.980
back to the guys who made it happen. yeah like

00:54:47.980 --> 00:54:51.320
okay i i totally get like you know like like

00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:54.780
man there's three trillion dollars like you know

00:54:54.780 --> 00:54:57.280
give them a billion dollars or something so they

00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.820
can do some some work for their servers or something

00:55:00.820 --> 00:55:04.860
else you know like you know you know pay it forward

00:55:04.860 --> 00:55:09.000
you know but yeah just to me it doesn't seem

00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:13.760
like they did that yeah okay sounds And it's

00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.739
not just me that's saying it. Like, the lead

00:55:15.739 --> 00:55:21.159
devs of BSD also have said as much. Okay, yeah.

00:55:21.300 --> 00:55:23.980
I agree to that, you know. Give something back.

00:55:24.019 --> 00:55:27.159
If you use something and if you make money out

00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:29.820
of it, you know, just give something back, man.

00:55:29.940 --> 00:55:33.320
I use Tmux all the time. Yeah. It's one of my

00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:36.039
favorite tools. Yeah, me too. Donate something

00:55:36.039 --> 00:55:38.880
to Tmux if you like it so much, right? NeoVim

00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:42.110
as well, right? Exactly, yeah. I don't have the

00:55:42.110 --> 00:55:44.769
money to do it, but if I had, I probably would.

00:55:45.690 --> 00:55:48.730
Yeah, I would too, absolutely. I mean, I don't

00:55:48.730 --> 00:55:51.869
have the money right at this second, but I think

00:55:51.869 --> 00:55:55.429
that once I start making a little money off of

00:55:55.429 --> 00:55:57.750
YouTube, yeah, there's a few projects I'll start

00:55:57.750 --> 00:56:01.750
getting my money, for sure. Yeah, sure. And what's

00:56:01.750 --> 00:56:04.429
your two least favorite distros? Ubuntu is one

00:56:04.429 --> 00:56:07.130
of them, maybe, right? Yeah, I would say so.

00:56:08.869 --> 00:56:12.760
Ubuntu and Manjaro. manjaro why manjaro the only

00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:16.420
reason i know about manjaro is because of um

00:56:16.420 --> 00:56:20.920
anthony well used to be called anthony in linux

00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:25.840
tech tips oh yeah yeah i know yeah yeah um that's

00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:27.960
the only reason i know about manjaro because

00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.480
he showed she showed manjaro a few times in in

00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:34.670
the videos i'm talking he back then because now

00:56:34.670 --> 00:56:38.769
it's not a he anymore right so oh okay i all

00:56:38.769 --> 00:56:41.690
right i wasn't i didn't know about this yeah

00:56:41.690 --> 00:56:45.769
but that's the only reason i know about manjaro

00:56:45.769 --> 00:56:49.730
why why don't you like it all right so i used

00:56:49.730 --> 00:56:54.570
manjaro before i used arch linux it would break

00:56:54.570 --> 00:56:57.789
on me like it would like be firing on all cylinders

00:56:57.789 --> 00:57:00.949
and there would be an update and everything just

00:57:00.949 --> 00:57:06.130
went uh Hades, so to speak. Especially if I used

00:57:06.130 --> 00:57:09.789
anything from the AUR, it often broke packages,

00:57:10.010 --> 00:57:13.369
but not only that, I've actually maintained packages

00:57:13.369 --> 00:57:19.670
in the AUR. I'm talking as a person who knows

00:57:19.670 --> 00:57:23.329
right now. A lot of these people go, you're just

00:57:23.329 --> 00:57:27.869
hating them. I maintain packages for the AUR.

00:57:28.449 --> 00:57:32.760
I would have to maintain packages twice as often

00:57:32.760 --> 00:57:39.920
for Manjaro than I did for Arch Linux. The one

00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:43.139
that I hardly ever had to do any updates for

00:57:43.139 --> 00:57:47.480
was probably Debian, right? But Arch Linux, I'd

00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:52.219
have to do some pretty frequent updates for the

00:57:52.219 --> 00:57:58.199
packages to make them be able to compile. Manjaro

00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:01.269
was worse. And there's a reason for it. And it

00:58:01.269 --> 00:58:03.150
took me a while to kind of figure out what was

00:58:03.150 --> 00:58:07.670
going on. But they have like, so it's kind of

00:58:07.670 --> 00:58:12.449
a long story, but they have a different kernel

00:58:12.449 --> 00:58:15.969
that they use that has nothing to do with Arch

00:58:15.969 --> 00:58:20.710
Linux. Then they have a different repos. And

00:58:20.710 --> 00:58:25.469
then they use Pac -Man to work in tandem with

00:58:25.469 --> 00:58:30.039
the kernel and the repos. You should be able

00:58:30.039 --> 00:58:33.440
to do that, right? I mean, theoretically. And

00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:37.019
I don't know where the problem is occurring,

00:58:37.260 --> 00:58:41.400
but it works well. I mean, people have a positive

00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:45.840
experience until they don't. And that's my gripe.

00:58:45.860 --> 00:58:49.360
That's my only gripe. If they've fixed... that

00:58:49.360 --> 00:58:52.280
and some people swear they have and other people

00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:55.039
say they haven't so i don't know what's true

00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:58.300
i haven't used manjaro for so long but that was

00:58:58.300 --> 00:59:02.019
one of like the most frustrating aspects of it

00:59:02.019 --> 00:59:06.460
was i actually quit maintaining for Manjaro when

00:59:06.460 --> 00:59:09.239
I was maintaining those packages in the AUR.

00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:12.280
And I would get complaints every other week basically

00:59:12.280 --> 00:59:14.539
saying, hey, why aren't these packages being

00:59:14.539 --> 00:59:17.440
maintained? Or like, hey, I can't install this.

00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:19.539
I'm like, what are you using? Oh, I'm using Manjaro

00:59:19.539 --> 00:59:26.280
SOL. Like, you're out of luck. Oh, I see. So

00:59:26.280 --> 00:59:29.059
breaking. We used to break a lot on you, okay?

00:59:29.179 --> 00:59:31.659
And what would you say your preferred server

00:59:31.659 --> 00:59:36.230
distro is? So I have three that I like a lot.

00:59:36.690 --> 00:59:40.030
I think Ubuntu is probably the easiest to set

00:59:40.030 --> 00:59:43.389
up. Because there are a lot of tutorials about

00:59:43.389 --> 00:59:46.489
Ubuntu, right? Yeah, there's a lot of, yeah.

00:59:47.050 --> 00:59:49.489
Documentation, everything is Ubuntu related.

00:59:49.730 --> 00:59:53.110
Server and the server side. Yeah, and it's common

00:59:53.110 --> 00:59:57.170
sense. I mean, it's just like, it's so obvious.

00:59:57.230 --> 01:00:01.150
And so I actually like that a lot. I like Fedora

01:00:01.150 --> 01:00:05.079
a lot. And OpenSUSA is warming up on me. And

01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:07.579
it's kind of funny. I like Fedora, but I don't

01:00:07.579 --> 01:00:10.900
like Red Hat. Oh, yeah. Red Hat, proprietary

01:00:10.900 --> 01:00:14.579
stuff. Is that why? Yeah. No, no, no, no. But

01:00:14.579 --> 01:00:17.519
that actually that I mean, that's not the only

01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:21.059
reason. But a lot of it is just like some of

01:00:21.059 --> 01:00:23.900
like the politics and stuff like that doesn't

01:00:23.900 --> 01:00:27.820
actually roll out onto Fedora. They but they.

01:00:29.210 --> 01:00:32.469
Some of their tools that they use that is proprietary,

01:00:32.769 --> 01:00:37.409
I don't have access to. So everything works on

01:00:37.409 --> 01:00:42.389
Fedora that would work on Red Hat, but it's without

01:00:42.389 --> 01:00:46.469
all the proprietary garbage. And so I prefer

01:00:46.469 --> 01:00:50.050
that, I guess, maybe. And you don't trust, what

01:00:50.050 --> 01:00:52.210
is it, IBM is the one that acquired Red Hat,

01:00:52.329 --> 01:00:55.630
right? I don't know what I think about that.

01:00:55.690 --> 01:00:58.150
I think it is suspicious, but it's kind of like

01:00:58.150 --> 01:01:01.730
I think that Microsoft is going to try to purchase

01:01:01.730 --> 01:01:06.369
Ubuntu, for example. And actually, there's some

01:01:06.369 --> 01:01:11.690
talks. I can't say who told me this, but there's

01:01:11.690 --> 01:01:14.550
a couple of developers on the Ubuntu team that

01:01:14.550 --> 01:01:19.849
have basically said that Microsoft has made a

01:01:19.849 --> 01:01:24.219
couple of offers. Ubuntu, okay. Yeah, because

01:01:24.219 --> 01:01:27.079
Microsoft wants to get all of those developers

01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.380
back, right? Because most of the advanced users,

01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:33.139
they're not on Windows unless there's a necessity,

01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.280
right? If you're a game dev, of course, you're

01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:37.960
going to be on Windows. Or if you develop applications

01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:40.480
for Windows, of course, you're going to be on

01:01:40.480 --> 01:01:44.320
Windows. But everyone else is on Linux or macOS,

01:01:44.539 --> 01:01:49.019
right? Yes, pretty much, yeah. And why not? Yeah,

01:01:49.099 --> 01:01:52.340
go ahead. No, go ahead. That was actually a perfect

01:01:52.340 --> 01:01:54.300
point. I was actually going to agree with you,

01:01:54.320 --> 01:01:57.099
but go ahead. Yeah, why not Debian? Why Ubuntu

01:01:57.099 --> 01:02:00.800
and why not Debian? Debian is too... On the server,

01:02:00.900 --> 01:02:05.000
of course. Yeah, yeah. So Debian's like, it's

01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.639
not user -friendly, especially the networking

01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:11.619
part of it. But if I have to set up, I've set

01:02:11.619 --> 01:02:14.059
up Debian servers in the past. I mean, it's not

01:02:14.059 --> 01:02:19.820
really a big deal, but... Yeah, I don't particularly

01:02:19.820 --> 01:02:28.059
like Debian, for that matter. Seriously, it's

01:02:28.059 --> 01:02:32.960
like installing... uh like linux from scratch

01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:35.860
almost it seems like like like the networking

01:02:35.860 --> 01:02:39.320
part of it is what really gets me sometimes like

01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:41.900
like there'll be something going on i have to

01:02:41.900 --> 01:02:44.119
sit there and figure out sometimes it'll take

01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:46.599
me a couple of days to feed you know something's

01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:49.579
going on with like uh the dns server or something

01:02:49.579 --> 01:02:52.920
and i gotta like hunt down what's going on where

01:02:52.920 --> 01:02:56.000
i'm like ubuntu it would have just done it automatically

01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:59.699
yeah yeah they have this network manager or something

01:02:59.699 --> 01:03:03.039
right Yeah, I remember playing with Ubuntu, you

01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:06.400
know, because that's what you start with. Right.

01:03:06.460 --> 01:03:11.360
But I don't know when it happened. And I was

01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:13.840
like, man, but why am I using Ubuntu if it if

01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.159
it comes from Debian? I just want to use, you

01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:19.440
know, the chat of the distributions. I just don't

01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:22.079
want to I don't trust canonical too much. And

01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.900
I'm like, well, I'm a Mac OS user, so I cannot

01:03:25.900 --> 01:03:28.480
say anything about that, you know, because, you

01:03:28.480 --> 01:03:33.150
know. I don't take my word because I use macOS,

01:03:33.269 --> 01:03:36.050
but I don't know. I just decided I'm going to

01:03:36.050 --> 01:03:38.289
use Ubuntu for Debian. I'm sorry for everything.

01:03:38.449 --> 01:03:41.590
So I just installed Debian in all of my servers.

01:03:42.230 --> 01:03:45.630
I run Kubernetes. I run Docker Swarm. I run pretty

01:03:45.630 --> 01:03:48.070
advanced stuff, and it works just fine. You know,

01:03:48.090 --> 01:03:53.590
it's stable, man. Oh, man. My servers run for

01:03:53.590 --> 01:03:56.670
years. I never have to touch them. As long as

01:03:56.670 --> 01:04:00.909
I update them. not even a single time i have

01:04:00.909 --> 01:04:03.550
i have had a breaking change on them right so

01:04:03.550 --> 01:04:06.329
i don't know i would like to see more debian

01:04:06.329 --> 01:04:10.010
related stuff on the server side of course because

01:04:10.010 --> 01:04:13.489
i understand that for desktops really old packages

01:04:13.489 --> 01:04:16.210
is what you're gonna get unless you do flat packs

01:04:16.210 --> 01:04:17.929
i don't know i don't know how that works you

01:04:17.929 --> 01:04:22.210
know but on servers I don't know what this thing

01:04:22.210 --> 01:04:25.550
is with Ubuntu and everyone switching to it,

01:04:25.590 --> 01:04:28.690
you know. I'd just like to see more Debian. What

01:04:28.690 --> 01:04:32.570
are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I think if you

01:04:32.570 --> 01:04:35.849
had more people using Debian, then they would

01:04:35.849 --> 01:04:39.130
roll out some changes probably to make it easier

01:04:39.130 --> 01:04:41.949
and make it a little bit better. I mean, that's

01:04:41.949 --> 01:04:43.829
what happened with Arch Linux. It used to have

01:04:43.829 --> 01:04:48.539
like this wonky... terminal install that everyone

01:04:48.539 --> 01:04:51.280
hated and so then like a couple people got together

01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:54.699
and goes we could find like a an automatic installer

01:04:54.699 --> 01:04:58.139
that we could write and he said hold my beer

01:04:58.139 --> 01:05:02.260
uh we'll get a calamaris installer and so i think

01:05:02.260 --> 01:05:05.099
the same thing would happen yeah i honestly do

01:05:05.099 --> 01:05:07.159
i mean the same thing would happen with gen 2

01:05:07.159 --> 01:05:09.820
for that matter like if people were using it

01:05:09.820 --> 01:05:14.309
like people like people would update it But no

01:05:14.309 --> 01:05:17.289
one's using it, really. Other than for ultra

01:05:17.289 --> 01:05:21.230
secure. Yeah, and finding documentation for Debian

01:05:21.230 --> 01:05:23.510
as well, it's been a little bit tough for me,

01:05:23.610 --> 01:05:27.389
you know. But most of the big, you know, stuff

01:05:27.389 --> 01:05:30.050
that I install, like Kubernetes, has a Debian

01:05:30.050 --> 01:05:33.150
specific section. They also have an Ubuntu section,

01:05:33.329 --> 01:05:36.210
you know, but they always tend to have Debian,

01:05:36.250 --> 01:05:40.909
at least big stuff. But it's not as easy as to

01:05:40.909 --> 01:05:43.710
find documentation for Ubuntu, you know. It's

01:05:43.710 --> 01:05:47.809
quite similar, right? Yeah. Yeah, it is. I mean,

01:05:47.829 --> 01:05:50.829
they use the apt package manager and stuff, but

01:05:50.829 --> 01:05:55.739
a lot of the tools. Yeah. Don't get me. Actually,

01:05:55.860 --> 01:05:59.340
Apt got a huge upgrade. Apt 3 .0, it's coming

01:05:59.340 --> 01:06:03.340
out very soon. And supposedly, it's a lot faster.

01:06:03.500 --> 01:06:06.199
I don't know if that's true. And they have, like,

01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:09.480
now everything's color -coordinated in the terminal.

01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:12.619
Like, all the text is color -coordinated and

01:06:12.619 --> 01:06:16.659
stuff. So now it's more readable, supposedly.

01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:22.659
Yeah. And I just used Debian on the... Terminal,

01:06:22.659 --> 01:06:25.320
I never install because when you get to the install

01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:27.820
section, you get the option to choose a desktop

01:06:27.820 --> 01:06:32.260
environment, right? Just none, and I just manage

01:06:32.260 --> 01:06:36.599
it that way. So it doesn't make a difference

01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:40.880
to me if it's Debian Ubuntu or what because I'm

01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:42.739
just going to be in the terminal. As long as

01:06:42.739 --> 01:06:46.420
the commands work for me, that's more than enough.

01:06:46.639 --> 01:06:50.260
And what are your thoughts on macOS? That's what

01:06:50.260 --> 01:06:53.940
we're here for. Okay, so like, I mean, I guess

01:06:53.940 --> 01:06:57.460
like if you were, so the only thing that I would

01:06:57.460 --> 01:07:00.519
say about macOS that I don't personally like

01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:06.280
is the lack of customization options. Actually,

01:07:06.579 --> 01:07:09.780
if I can share my screen one more time. Yep,

01:07:09.780 --> 01:07:12.840
let me share that. Let me see. I got to find

01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:17.320
it right here. I actually got something for you.

01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:22.800
All right. So here I have, I'm using OpenSUSE,

01:07:22.860 --> 01:07:26.480
but I'm using what's titled Window Manager, Spectre

01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:34.380
WM. Okay. Now, there's a thing in Spectre WM

01:07:34.380 --> 01:07:38.840
that is really cool. We call it D -Menu. So you

01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:41.579
probably see this menu at the top, right? So

01:07:41.579 --> 01:07:47.190
if I wanted to open up Firefox, boom. I can open

01:07:47.190 --> 01:07:51.449
up Firefox. That's not the cool part, though,

01:07:51.550 --> 01:07:57.650
okay? So the cool part is if you're in a – so

01:07:57.650 --> 01:08:01.469
let me get into a terminal here. If you're into

01:08:01.469 --> 01:08:07.769
a terminal and you say echo – I think it's echo

01:08:07.769 --> 01:08:22.399
E. A. A, B, and C. Like that. You can pipe this

01:08:22.399 --> 01:08:28.920
into D menu. You can see now you have a menu.

01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:34.840
Okay. Now you can do another thing. You can go

01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:41.439
echo E. You can do something like this. Wait,

01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:49.260
sorry. You can do something like that. To put

01:08:49.260 --> 01:08:53.659
it in separate lines. Right. You're following.

01:08:55.300 --> 01:08:58.880
Right. And then if I did the same thing, I think

01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:04.920
it's like this. Okay, maybe I got to make a space

01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:08.000
on that. But anyway, the thing is, is I can make

01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:12.760
a drop down menu, right? Okay. Now there's something

01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:17.359
cool that I do. Maybe it's like this? I don't

01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:22.579
remember, but no? Okay. I can do it using the

01:09:22.579 --> 01:09:25.899
slash in, but anyway, somehow it's, for whatever

01:09:25.899 --> 01:09:29.640
reason, it's not wanting to cooperate. But anyway,

01:09:30.020 --> 01:09:35.960
so I have a bunch of configurations around that.

01:09:36.060 --> 01:09:43.850
So if I said, for example, SMPDF, okay? Now I

01:09:43.850 --> 01:09:48.109
have a ROFI menu, or it's working with dmenu.

01:09:48.210 --> 01:09:51.750
So I select an item and go to, like, say, programming.

01:09:52.729 --> 01:10:00.970
And say I want something in Python. And there

01:10:00.970 --> 01:10:05.770
I basically open up a PDF that I have on Python.

01:10:07.149 --> 01:10:10.189
There's a lot of hacks like this that save me

01:10:10.189 --> 01:10:13.619
time that I like. I don't see that being able,

01:10:13.699 --> 01:10:18.159
like, I don't see D menu and row fee. FZF, I

01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:21.460
think you have, right? Yep, FZF, yep. All right.

01:10:21.539 --> 01:10:27.460
There's things like that. Hold on. Okay. There

01:10:27.460 --> 01:10:31.880
is, like, I have another one that is really cool.

01:10:34.899 --> 01:10:37.439
So this is like to search in your file system,

01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:41.970
right? Yeah, it just searches my PDF folder.

01:10:42.470 --> 01:10:49.630
So this one, if I can type man. Now this one

01:10:49.630 --> 01:10:56.109
searches man page. So say I wanted to search

01:10:56.109 --> 01:11:04.590
about XDO. I open it right here. And I have a

01:11:04.590 --> 01:11:09.989
PDF of my man page. And it's readable. Okay.

01:11:10.850 --> 01:11:13.550
Like, I don't know if you've experienced this

01:11:13.550 --> 01:11:16.270
where, like, the man page is totally unreadable.

01:11:16.329 --> 01:11:20.369
This is in a very readable format. I open it

01:11:20.369 --> 01:11:22.869
through Neovim. There's something that you do.

01:11:22.930 --> 01:11:24.670
I don't remember what I did, but I just opened

01:11:24.670 --> 01:11:28.680
man pages in Neovim. Yeah, I think I know which

01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:30.699
one you're talking about. I think I did that

01:11:30.699 --> 01:11:33.560
as well. But anyway, there's things like that

01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:38.319
that I just think that with, and I have like

01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:41.279
a bunch of like little hacks for doing the same

01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:45.420
thing. Like I have, so this is old school, like

01:11:45.420 --> 01:11:49.560
the dozen panel bar down here at the bottom,

01:11:49.619 --> 01:11:53.520
it has a clickable menu. It basically does the

01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:58.550
same thing. um i don't think i have conky installed

01:11:58.550 --> 01:12:03.149
but i can you know like launch my conky and that

01:12:03.149 --> 01:12:06.789
sort of thing but i see like a lot of those types

01:12:06.789 --> 01:12:11.449
of um like a lot of those types of hacks i just

01:12:11.449 --> 01:12:15.930
don't i don't really see that you're able to

01:12:15.930 --> 01:12:20.840
do that is freely That's my only gripe about

01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:27.859
Mac OS, exactly. So, like, I mean, you're developers.

01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:30.300
You should be able to make your – I did another

01:12:30.300 --> 01:12:35.100
one. So, like, Rofi, Dmenu, and FZF, they all

01:12:35.100 --> 01:12:38.220
work the same way. So I basically – wait, sorry.

01:12:39.739 --> 01:12:43.380
They all work the same way, just so that I can

01:12:43.380 --> 01:12:48.050
show you. So I get – this is – like works exactly

01:12:48.050 --> 01:12:55.989
the same way and now if i wanted to what i could

01:12:55.989 --> 01:13:04.130
do is i could do this and then say python games

01:13:04.130 --> 01:13:12.210
go in here there's my notes yeah i i do get the

01:13:12.210 --> 01:13:17.250
point but um it has changed because A lot of

01:13:17.250 --> 01:13:21.590
the Linux developers have migrated to macOS,

01:13:21.729 --> 01:13:24.670
and I think it's because of their jobs, right?

01:13:24.750 --> 01:13:28.270
I was forced to use macOS at my job. Really talented

01:13:28.270 --> 01:13:31.390
people that have to migrate over to macOS, and

01:13:31.390 --> 01:13:33.449
they make it better. Let me quickly show you

01:13:33.449 --> 01:13:38.670
something, okay? Okay. Where is this thing? You

01:13:38.670 --> 01:13:40.310
should be looking at my screen right now, correct?

01:13:40.550 --> 01:13:43.520
Yeah. Okay. so let me just quickly show you something

01:13:43.520 --> 01:13:46.439
so you can see how customizable it is it's not

01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:49.739
easy you have to play a lot with that but if

01:13:49.739 --> 01:13:52.720
right i just type the command right now and it

01:13:52.720 --> 01:13:55.979
shows me this menu right and let's say that i

01:13:55.979 --> 01:13:58.340
want to change the color scheme i'm gonna choose

01:13:58.340 --> 01:14:01.479
this uh minty lemon right i don't know if it's

01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:03.539
gonna work or not or if it's gonna break but

01:14:03.539 --> 01:14:07.000
i got an fcf menu there right and uh i can just

01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:09.260
search for something i want to apply this color

01:14:09.260 --> 01:14:11.850
scheme i'm just gonna hit enter here And you're

01:14:11.850 --> 01:14:13.569
going to notice that a lot of stuff is going

01:14:13.569 --> 01:14:17.609
to happen, right? So it even restarted Kitty,

01:14:17.829 --> 01:14:21.430
restarted NeoVim. It applied the color scheme

01:14:21.430 --> 01:14:25.630
everywhere, right? Even at the bar at the very

01:14:25.630 --> 01:14:29.710
top of the screen, this little bar here, you

01:14:29.710 --> 01:14:32.489
know, got those colors. I don't know why this

01:14:32.489 --> 01:14:36.210
horrible desktop wallpaper got selected. I have

01:14:36.210 --> 01:14:38.090
to check on that because it's not supposed to

01:14:38.090 --> 01:14:39.689
be that one. It's supposed to be a different

01:14:39.689 --> 01:14:43.510
one. But I'm just going to go back to my colors,

01:14:43.710 --> 01:14:51.729
this new headings. So I think it was not customizable

01:14:51.729 --> 01:14:55.250
maybe a lot in the past, but I think that has

01:14:55.250 --> 01:14:58.050
changed a lot. I don't know if it's in the recent,

01:14:58.229 --> 01:15:01.090
you know, in recent years or when that started

01:15:01.090 --> 01:15:04.390
happening, but we have window managers now, right?

01:15:04.489 --> 01:15:06.869
I use a window manager to switch between stuff.

01:15:06.930 --> 01:15:09.250
It's not like Linux, you know, it's not the best,

01:15:09.310 --> 01:15:12.119
but. you know at least you you get something

01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:15.079
and it gets the job done yeah i get some time

01:15:15.079 --> 01:15:17.479
i don't need like a bunch of bells and whistles

01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:22.100
with my tiling window manager um and in fact

01:15:22.100 --> 01:15:25.779
if i didn't use the tiling window manager i could

01:15:25.779 --> 01:15:31.909
kind of get by i guess um but And the fact that

01:15:31.909 --> 01:15:35.869
you have FZF, I can probably do everything in

01:15:35.869 --> 01:15:39.250
Mac that I do on Linux. Like, as far as my scripting,

01:15:39.250 --> 01:15:41.189
I can do pretty much all of it. Yeah, everything

01:15:41.189 --> 01:15:43.970
that you can think of. All I do in Mac is bash.

01:15:43.970 --> 01:15:46.630
I wish they had a D menu, though. That changed

01:15:46.630 --> 01:15:50.210
my, like, when I realized you could pipe things

01:15:50.210 --> 01:15:53.210
right in there and have, like, a drop -down menu

01:15:53.210 --> 01:15:57.250
and basically have it do things and just basically

01:15:57.250 --> 01:16:01.060
have, like, a for loop saying. you know hey you

01:16:01.060 --> 01:16:04.380
know when this is uh when this is selected do

01:16:04.380 --> 01:16:09.699
this um wow that was really cool like i was like

01:16:09.699 --> 01:16:13.380
and then you could do that you could uh control

01:16:13.380 --> 01:16:16.579
like your you know what music you know what song

01:16:16.579 --> 01:16:19.680
you wanted to listen to or something what what

01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:22.420
playlist you wanted to listen to would be very

01:16:22.420 --> 01:16:26.760
easy yeah there's this other there's this other

01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:30.000
tool that josh medesky created um it's called

01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.539
sesh let me show it to you real quick just gonna

01:16:32.539 --> 01:16:35.060
type a key on my keyboard it's gonna bring up

01:16:35.060 --> 01:16:38.659
sesh right so i can search through stuff in here

01:16:38.659 --> 01:16:41.000
right if i want to open a tmux session for one

01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:44.500
of these directories i can or if i want to open

01:16:44.500 --> 01:16:47.439
for example my neobim keymaps file this file

01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:50.359
directly from here right just gonna hit enter

01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:53.939
and it's going to open it you know as a tmux

01:16:53.939 --> 01:16:59.010
session so like mac os by itself is trash right

01:16:59.010 --> 01:17:02.689
the tools that you get with mac os i don't use

01:17:02.689 --> 01:17:07.189
basically i just use the unix part i just use

01:17:07.189 --> 01:17:10.149
the terminal and all of the wonderful tools that

01:17:10.149 --> 01:17:13.989
a lot of people have created in the community

01:17:13.989 --> 01:17:17.989
you know i think that's what makes it better

01:17:17.989 --> 01:17:21.449
now and that makes it a little bit more usable

01:17:21.449 --> 01:17:24.989
but not the things that come with mac os itself

01:17:24.989 --> 01:17:28.770
um i don't think i use any of those i don't use

01:17:28.770 --> 01:17:31.329
mac os the regular way like a normal user would

01:17:31.329 --> 01:17:35.130
you know right no i gotcha yeah yeah and i have

01:17:35.130 --> 01:17:37.510
friends that are kind of that way and like even

01:17:37.510 --> 01:17:41.229
though um they totally screwed my dad over like

01:17:41.229 --> 01:17:44.329
with this music he hasn't stopped using mac os

01:17:44.329 --> 01:17:50.189
like he just bought a new m1 or m2 box you know

01:17:50.189 --> 01:17:56.920
it's like okay You know, it's really funny. I

01:17:56.920 --> 01:18:00.659
think that some of the ARM technology is really

01:18:00.659 --> 01:18:04.680
cool. I've got my eye on it. I'm waiting for

01:18:04.680 --> 01:18:09.119
it to come over to the Windows side so I can

01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:12.779
install Linux on it. Yeah, I've thought about

01:18:12.779 --> 01:18:16.560
that too. If I ever... install a Linux distribution,

01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:20.159
it will be on ARM. Why? Because the battery lasts

01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:23.079
so long, man. The battery on these computers,

01:18:23.300 --> 01:18:25.640
I don't know. I unplug it and I can use it for

01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:30.140
eight, 10 hours without any issue. So if that

01:18:30.140 --> 01:18:33.600
migrates over to Windows and Linux is, you know,

01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:37.020
developed for that and it works fine, would be

01:18:37.020 --> 01:18:40.149
quite interesting what you can do with it. Yeah,

01:18:40.170 --> 01:18:48.470
no, for sure. Like I said, I don't hate Macintosh

01:18:48.470 --> 01:18:53.310
as much as I hate Windows. I'm just saying. I

01:18:53.310 --> 01:18:55.630
think they're all about the money at the end

01:18:55.630 --> 01:19:01.489
of the day and a little greedy. Do I hate them?

01:19:01.789 --> 01:19:06.569
No. I mean, kind of hate the fact that they didn't

01:19:06.569 --> 01:19:09.189
pay it forward. But other than that, I mean,

01:19:09.270 --> 01:19:13.590
like, I just understand that if I buy an Apple

01:19:13.590 --> 01:19:17.409
product, that they're all about the money. Yeah.

01:19:17.470 --> 01:19:19.189
That's all about the money. I understand that.

01:19:19.329 --> 01:19:21.729
Yeah. And as a consumer, you know what you're

01:19:21.729 --> 01:19:23.909
getting into. You know that you don't have to

01:19:23.909 --> 01:19:28.050
pay overpriced products for a share. You know,

01:19:28.050 --> 01:19:32.770
but. You just accept it and say, whatever, I'll

01:19:32.770 --> 01:19:36.970
do it. I'll do it anyway. Yeah, one of the things

01:19:36.970 --> 01:19:39.649
that also, I don't know, they supposedly quit

01:19:39.649 --> 01:19:43.170
doing, you might be able to clue me into this,

01:19:43.270 --> 01:19:47.430
but they started soldering the memory boards

01:19:47.430 --> 01:19:51.550
and everything into the mainframe. I thought

01:19:51.550 --> 01:19:57.689
that was, that wasn't cool, man. A lot of us

01:19:57.689 --> 01:20:02.250
would buy like a, you know, we would basically

01:20:02.250 --> 01:20:07.850
buy the i5 version and then take the CPU and

01:20:07.850 --> 01:20:12.630
buy an i7 or whatever. Yeah, but if you think

01:20:12.630 --> 01:20:15.529
about it, if you're going to, you know, I had

01:20:15.529 --> 01:20:20.550
a, what did I have? I had a Core 2 Duo was the

01:20:20.550 --> 01:20:23.750
CPU that I had when I used Windows back in the

01:20:23.750 --> 01:20:27.430
day. and i had a intel motherboard just basic

01:20:27.430 --> 01:20:30.729
stuff if i needed to upgrade the cpu i probably

01:20:30.729 --> 01:20:33.329
would have needed to upgrade the motherboard

01:20:33.329 --> 01:20:37.029
as well oh yeah sometimes that is true that is

01:20:37.029 --> 01:20:41.109
true like if you have like dd4 like if you have

01:20:41.109 --> 01:20:44.789
uh dd3 ram in your motherboard and you're trying

01:20:44.789 --> 01:20:47.529
to upgrade to dd4 well obviously that's not gonna

01:20:47.529 --> 01:20:51.569
work right like i get that but what i'm saying

01:20:51.569 --> 01:20:56.090
is like like uh you know a lot of people they

01:20:56.090 --> 01:20:59.510
would buy like a laptop right they knew what

01:20:59.510 --> 01:21:02.029
they were doing they knew that okay i'm gonna

01:21:02.029 --> 01:21:05.729
buy the i5 i'm gonna pull the chip out and put

01:21:05.729 --> 01:21:10.170
the i7 in and i'm gonna take the memory and i'm

01:21:10.170 --> 01:21:13.289
gonna just load it full of memory and do all

01:21:13.289 --> 01:21:15.590
these other things because i can buy the memory

01:21:15.590 --> 01:21:18.869
cheaper than what the manufacturer was giving

01:21:18.869 --> 01:21:23.520
me for it yeah And so while that wasn't the only

01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:29.000
thing that people discovered, when they did that

01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:33.000
with the IMAX, they got better performance than

01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:35.579
the benchmarks that were published when they

01:21:35.579 --> 01:21:39.369
did that. When they upgraded the stuff. Oh, yeah.

01:21:39.470 --> 01:21:41.869
So all of a sudden, everything started becoming

01:21:41.869 --> 01:21:45.069
soldered inside there because they're like, you're

01:21:45.069 --> 01:21:47.689
going to use what we give you. And F you, you

01:21:47.689 --> 01:21:51.350
know. Yeah, of course. Of course. Yeah. Something

01:21:51.350 --> 01:21:54.550
that I don't like about it too much is, for example,

01:21:54.689 --> 01:21:58.250
I have an M. What is this? M4? I think it is

01:21:58.250 --> 01:22:01.970
the last gen of MacBooks. This laptop that I'm

01:22:01.970 --> 01:22:04.930
on is an M4. The one that I used before that

01:22:04.930 --> 01:22:10.890
is an M1 Mac mini. Right. So. They have um, I

01:22:10.890 --> 01:22:12.789
don't know when the m1 is going to be receiving

01:22:12.789 --> 01:22:16.010
updates right for the latest version of the OS

01:22:16.010 --> 01:22:18.890
I think that's gonna be like, I don't know two

01:22:18.890 --> 01:22:22.890
three years maybe so if I want to keep using

01:22:22.890 --> 01:22:26.229
that in one computer five years from now, I'll

01:22:26.229 --> 01:22:30.670
have to use and an old version of the Of the

01:22:30.670 --> 01:22:33.260
operating system, right? So they force you to

01:22:33.260 --> 01:22:36.699
upgrade if you want to architectures yes you

01:22:36.699 --> 01:22:38.939
want to have that's actually the one thing that

01:22:38.939 --> 01:22:42.380
that really appealed to me about like arch linux

01:22:42.380 --> 01:22:44.720
and now it's pretty much mainstream but when

01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:48.239
i first started using arch linux the first thing

01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:52.279
i noticed was there were wasn't any architectures

01:22:52.279 --> 01:22:57.579
that you noticed like that was a mind -blowing

01:22:57.579 --> 01:23:03.989
to me it was like because case in point So I

01:23:03.989 --> 01:23:08.609
used my buddy's MacBook a few years around that

01:23:08.609 --> 01:23:11.710
time. It was a few months before that, I remember.

01:23:11.949 --> 01:23:14.890
And I was just trying to find some free software

01:23:14.890 --> 01:23:19.710
to burn an ISO image onto my thumb drive. Alcohol

01:23:19.710 --> 01:23:23.369
or what was it? Nero was in Windows, back in

01:23:23.369 --> 01:23:26.060
Windows, you remember? Yeah, this was Mac. Oh,

01:23:26.060 --> 01:23:30.020
Mac. Okay. Okay. And I couldn't, like, I would

01:23:30.020 --> 01:23:34.680
find, like, a free and open source version and

01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:41.520
to burn an ISO image onto my thumb drive, it

01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:43.439
wouldn't work because it would be the wrong architecture.

01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:47.380
This kept happening over and over. I finally

01:23:47.380 --> 01:23:51.319
just gave up. I figured out another way to do

01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:55.439
it without the Mac, obviously. It was so frustrating.

01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:58.020
I wasted two hours of my time. I'm like, never

01:23:58.020 --> 01:24:04.180
again. But when I first started using, and Ubuntu

01:24:04.180 --> 01:24:08.640
kind of had the same problem, where if you had

01:24:08.640 --> 01:24:14.989
1204, whatever the... that version was i can't

01:24:14.989 --> 01:24:19.029
even remember now but like the 1204 like but

01:24:19.029 --> 01:24:21.949
you wanted to install something for you you had

01:24:21.949 --> 01:24:26.050
1404 you couldn't install the software from 1204

01:24:26.050 --> 01:24:31.569
from that repository and so a lot of times like

01:24:31.569 --> 01:24:36.010
you would have to add a repo from like 1404 well

01:24:36.010 --> 01:24:38.829
if it wasn't available You know, there's all

01:24:38.829 --> 01:24:41.310
kinds of hoops and it was like all these architectures

01:24:41.310 --> 01:24:43.310
where it was like in Arch Linux, it was just

01:24:43.310 --> 01:24:48.930
like, oh, well, just use Pac -Man. I mean, that

01:24:48.930 --> 01:24:53.189
was such a revelation to me. And now, like, it

01:24:53.189 --> 01:24:57.510
seems like for the most part, if you look at

01:24:57.510 --> 01:25:03.739
Fedora, if you look at Ubuntu or Debian. Now

01:25:03.739 --> 01:25:06.739
the package managers are such where nobody's

01:25:06.739 --> 01:25:11.520
installing all of these third -party repos. I

01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:14.800
mean, they are, but it's very limited, so you

01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:18.180
don't really see the architectures anymore. So

01:25:18.180 --> 01:25:21.159
they've all kind of migrated that direction,

01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:25.579
I think. And OpenSUSE, you don't see the architectures

01:25:25.579 --> 01:25:31.829
at all. yeah like the only distros you didn't

01:25:31.829 --> 01:25:34.109
see the architectures back in the day were Gen

01:25:34.109 --> 01:25:37.710
2 Slackware and Arch like those are the three

01:25:37.710 --> 01:25:40.449
you just they weren't noticeable yes they have

01:25:40.449 --> 01:25:43.369
different kernels and so based on the different

01:25:43.369 --> 01:25:49.069
kernels would be would be your I guess your architecture

01:25:49.069 --> 01:25:54.649
so to speak especially in Arch Linux but that

01:25:54.649 --> 01:25:57.470
was such a revelation to me it was like Wow,

01:25:57.590 --> 01:26:02.649
that is so cool. And you mentioned that you hate

01:26:02.649 --> 01:26:11.250
Windows. Why? Well, I think the Windows hatred

01:26:11.250 --> 01:26:18.289
comes, it's pretty easy. You know, in order to,

01:26:18.409 --> 01:26:20.810
like, they don't allow you to see what's going

01:26:20.810 --> 01:26:25.710
on under the hood, right? I think that Mac, for

01:26:25.710 --> 01:26:28.229
the most part, kind of lets you see what's going

01:26:28.229 --> 01:26:31.510
on under the hood. Even if they don't allow you

01:26:31.510 --> 01:26:34.310
to see all the proprietary code, you get a pretty

01:26:34.310 --> 01:26:38.409
good sense of what goes on under the hood. Not

01:26:38.409 --> 01:26:42.550
so with Windows. Not unless you take all these

01:26:42.550 --> 01:26:46.970
really expensive classes and everything else.

01:26:47.869 --> 01:26:50.449
And then you start learning about their ecosystem

01:26:50.449 --> 01:26:53.329
and then learning the way that they do things.

01:26:53.609 --> 01:26:56.449
Could I like Windows if I took all those expensive

01:26:56.449 --> 01:27:02.789
classes? Maybe. But I just, I can't, it's not

01:27:02.789 --> 01:27:05.970
clear as day what's going on under the hood.

01:27:06.090 --> 01:27:08.229
And the other thing is you can't customize it

01:27:08.229 --> 01:27:12.899
like Windows 11. I could show you. You can't

01:27:12.899 --> 01:27:16.420
put the, like without like having like an older,

01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:22.279
like installing software for the older panel

01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:25.340
and a bunch of other hacks. You can't put the

01:27:25.340 --> 01:27:30.140
panel at the top. You can't have any kind of

01:27:30.140 --> 01:27:33.560
customization. You can't alter the size of the

01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:43.210
panel. Like really? Really, like, that's where

01:27:43.210 --> 01:27:46.569
we're going with this? Like, you have zero choice?

01:27:46.850 --> 01:27:49.750
It's like, and not only that, they copied the

01:27:49.750 --> 01:27:52.489
Plasma desktop from Linux. If you take a look

01:27:52.489 --> 01:27:58.489
at Windows 11 and the Plasma 5 desktop, they're

01:27:58.489 --> 01:28:03.289
almost identical. Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah, it was

01:28:03.289 --> 01:28:06.029
complete plagiarism. And the only reason they

01:28:06.029 --> 01:28:08.779
didn't get sued is because... Probably because

01:28:08.779 --> 01:28:11.380
they're the biggest contributor to the Linux

01:28:11.380 --> 01:28:17.500
kernel. Okay, yeah. My reasons for not liking

01:28:17.500 --> 01:28:21.300
Windows. I don't like Windows. I used Windows

01:28:21.300 --> 01:28:25.800
all my life, you know. And then I switched to

01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:29.319
Mac. But when I switched to Mac, I met, you know,

01:28:29.340 --> 01:28:32.800
Unix. So I spend most of my day in the terminal.

01:28:34.319 --> 01:28:37.119
Typing commands, doing stuff, always in the terminal.

01:28:38.589 --> 01:28:42.149
Windows and their, you know, yeah, DOS. Yeah,

01:28:42.149 --> 01:28:47.670
MS -DOS. MS -DOS PowerShell. I don't like it.

01:28:47.710 --> 01:28:51.770
I don't like it at all. MS -DOS is like ancient

01:28:51.770 --> 01:28:55.310
technology. The PowerShell is more modern, yeah.

01:28:55.529 --> 01:28:56.930
Yeah, I don't like PowerShell either. They don't

01:28:56.930 --> 01:29:01.449
use DOS anymore. Yeah. But yeah, I agree with

01:29:01.449 --> 01:29:04.970
you. So yeah, I didn't get used to it in the

01:29:04.970 --> 01:29:08.720
terminal. applications if you game of course

01:29:08.720 --> 01:29:11.859
if you play games well I'm gonna start a debate

01:29:11.859 --> 01:29:15.140
maybe with you because you're fully Linux but

01:29:15.140 --> 01:29:18.140
if you game I would personally say just go with

01:29:18.140 --> 01:29:23.659
Windows don't complicate things I would five

01:29:23.659 --> 01:29:27.579
years ago I probably would agree but right now

01:29:27.579 --> 01:29:33.199
like you have a lot of a lot of advancements

01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:36.640
in the world of gaming for Linux, so much so,

01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:38.739
like, if you take a look at Bazite, which is

01:29:38.739 --> 01:29:43.600
the same project from the distro that I'm using

01:29:43.600 --> 01:29:49.640
right now, the Aurora Linux, the Bazite, oh,

01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:54.399
man, it comes loaded. Like, optimization for,

01:29:54.500 --> 01:29:59.149
like, NVIDIA, AMD, whatever, like... you can

01:29:59.149 --> 01:30:03.850
overclock your, your graphics cards and all this

01:30:03.850 --> 01:30:07.430
stuff. And like a lot of this stuff comes pretty

01:30:07.430 --> 01:30:09.890
much right out of the box. What is it called?

01:30:09.930 --> 01:30:16.109
You said Basite? Basite. B -A -Z -I -T -E. Okay.

01:30:16.270 --> 01:30:23.650
This thing. Yeah. Yeah. That is, that is. Like

01:30:23.650 --> 01:30:26.829
anybody who's a gamer, they should be looking

01:30:26.829 --> 01:30:29.630
at this. So this is like a distro from the same

01:30:29.630 --> 01:30:34.710
team that created this Aurora? Yes. Okay. So

01:30:34.710 --> 01:30:38.710
that is like optimized for gaming, right? You

01:30:38.710 --> 01:30:40.909
don't have to jump through a bunch of hoops.

01:30:40.930 --> 01:30:42.689
You just install it and things are going to be

01:30:42.689 --> 01:30:47.069
easier for you if you're into gaming? Yes. Interesting.

01:30:47.630 --> 01:30:51.380
I didn't know that. Yeah, when I was looking

01:30:51.380 --> 01:30:53.779
at that, I'm not a big gamer, but man, I saw

01:30:53.779 --> 01:30:56.880
that. In fact, I'm actually kind of like wanting

01:30:56.880 --> 01:30:59.260
to do that for music because I sometimes record

01:30:59.260 --> 01:31:03.840
my own music and I use a lot of stuff. Now, in

01:31:03.840 --> 01:31:09.340
years past, I would use AV Linux through a virtual

01:31:09.340 --> 01:31:14.010
machine. um i want to just set up my own distro

01:31:14.010 --> 01:31:17.489
immutable distro that doesn't change and have

01:31:17.489 --> 01:31:21.189
like a a low latency kernel and a bunch of other

01:31:21.189 --> 01:31:24.609
stuff and just have it and then have like my

01:31:24.609 --> 01:31:27.789
developer stuff and all this other stuff and

01:31:27.789 --> 01:31:29.810
then i can do everything i want to on the same

01:31:29.810 --> 01:31:34.069
computer basically and how do you do music on

01:31:34.069 --> 01:31:37.630
linux now like what are you uh our doer is like

01:31:37.630 --> 01:31:42.239
the uh like I love this. It's called Ardour,

01:31:42.300 --> 01:31:46.960
A -R -D -O -U -R. Let me put it up. I think I've

01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:51.159
heard about it. Because that's one of the other

01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:54.619
things that got me into macOS as well. Okay,

01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:59.880
so it's like a DAW, right? Yeah, it is a DAW,

01:31:59.899 --> 01:32:06.010
yeah. Okay. But it's really good. It takes a

01:32:06.010 --> 01:32:09.369
while to get used to. I haven't been playing

01:32:09.369 --> 01:32:12.630
around with it for a while, but I used to use

01:32:12.630 --> 01:32:15.789
what was called AV Linux because all the music

01:32:15.789 --> 01:32:18.890
stuff, and then they would just freeze the kernel,

01:32:18.989 --> 01:32:22.430
like the updates, so it wouldn't update, so it

01:32:22.430 --> 01:32:26.149
wouldn't break the packages or anything. And

01:32:26.149 --> 01:32:31.130
so I'm thinking I could do the same thing here.

01:32:32.319 --> 01:32:37.159
but with like a uBlue type thing. I could use

01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:40.439
like all of his stuff, and I would probably bring

01:32:40.439 --> 01:32:42.840
him in at that point. I'd be like, hey, dude,

01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:45.260
I can do what you've been trying to do for the

01:32:45.260 --> 01:32:50.640
last 10 years, but your system will never break.

01:32:50.859 --> 01:32:54.479
It'll just stay the same forever. Yeah, that's

01:32:54.479 --> 01:32:58.000
one of the reasons why I definitely don't switch

01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:02.359
to Linux, you know, stability. And I just want

01:33:02.359 --> 01:33:06.739
to open an application and for it to work all

01:33:06.739 --> 01:33:09.960
the time. I know it has gotten a lot better over

01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:15.439
the past few years, but I don't know. I don't

01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:17.600
know how good it is at the moment with audio

01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:20.079
and video, you know, because that's what I do

01:33:20.079 --> 01:33:22.100
right now. You notice I'm doing video editing.

01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:26.260
I did music back in the day as well. That's why

01:33:26.260 --> 01:33:28.760
I fell in love with Mac OS as well. Because I

01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:33.020
found this Logic Pro X. Oh, yeah. Man, it is

01:33:33.020 --> 01:33:36.640
a gem. I think it's the best one that I have

01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:40.520
ever tried. And Windows, I used Pro Tools. I

01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:43.159
didn't like it too much. I don't like Pro Tools.

01:33:43.399 --> 01:33:48.500
And, you know, it's funny because I think I have,

01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:50.619
like, a lot of friends who are all into Pro Tools

01:33:50.619 --> 01:33:55.859
or Cubase. And I used to use Cakewalk back in

01:33:55.859 --> 01:34:01.960
the day. It later became Sonar. And this actually,

01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:05.880
the layout is a lot like Cakewalk, which is what

01:34:05.880 --> 01:34:09.500
I like. But there's a lot of other things. This

01:34:09.500 --> 01:34:14.399
thing comes loaded when you install Ardour. And

01:34:14.399 --> 01:34:18.199
like I said, it's free and open source. Yeah,

01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:23.159
there's only like four people developing it.

01:34:25.390 --> 01:34:28.949
And it's actually surprisingly good. It's like,

01:34:29.149 --> 01:34:32.069
okay, yeah, you don't have 50 people developing

01:34:32.069 --> 01:34:36.949
it actively. It's still surprisingly good. It's

01:34:36.949 --> 01:34:39.949
better than Reaper, in my opinion. No, I use

01:34:39.949 --> 01:34:42.170
Reaper as well, I think. Well, a few plugins

01:34:42.170 --> 01:34:46.069
from Reaper, I remember that I installed. Yeah,

01:34:46.069 --> 01:34:50.250
yeah. So I did play with audio for a long time

01:34:50.250 --> 01:34:53.659
back in the day. I haven't done so in a... in

01:34:53.659 --> 01:34:56.699
a while that moves us moves us to the next topic

01:34:56.699 --> 01:35:00.119
you know your thoughts on open source versus

01:35:00.119 --> 01:35:06.659
closed source software yeah so like i said i

01:35:06.659 --> 01:35:09.359
think i kind of probably already covered this

01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:15.340
i'm not like a purist in the sense like um like

01:35:15.340 --> 01:35:19.760
you know some of your graphics cards or something

01:35:19.760 --> 01:35:27.340
is going to be closed source. It's just the way

01:35:27.340 --> 01:35:34.060
it is. However, if you have a pretty good open

01:35:34.060 --> 01:35:37.880
source alternative to a piece of software, I

01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:42.319
think it's incumbent upon us to use it because

01:35:42.319 --> 01:35:45.119
the closed source, they can do anything they

01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:51.220
want. They can literally say you don't own the

01:35:51.220 --> 01:35:57.470
software. Yeah. You know, I know this is kind

01:35:57.470 --> 01:36:02.770
of an extreme, but say you record music or maybe

01:36:02.770 --> 01:36:05.890
you have a YouTube channel and you're using OBS

01:36:05.890 --> 01:36:09.649
and maybe your political views are different

01:36:09.649 --> 01:36:14.010
from their political views, right? And now they

01:36:14.010 --> 01:36:20.390
will say, well, you know, maybe we're going to...

01:36:20.729 --> 01:36:24.710
Yeah, somehow you're canceled. Yeah. Yeah, I

01:36:24.710 --> 01:36:26.430
don't know how they would do it. We shut your

01:36:26.430 --> 01:36:28.550
channel down. They shut YouTube channels down

01:36:28.550 --> 01:36:31.189
if you get political and all that stuff. Oh,

01:36:31.189 --> 01:36:35.510
yeah. Yeah, they can, yeah. If you don't have

01:36:35.510 --> 01:36:40.010
the will to fight it, yeah, probably. Yeah, and

01:36:40.010 --> 01:36:42.050
you won't because it requires a lot of money,

01:36:42.130 --> 01:36:48.149
so. Yeah, sometimes. Usually they just, they'll,

01:36:48.270 --> 01:36:53.239
like, suspend them. uh they'll suspend them i

01:36:53.239 --> 01:36:55.640
got a helicopter outside so i don't know what

01:36:55.640 --> 01:36:59.739
that was about but anyway um mainly like they

01:36:59.739 --> 01:37:01.939
could do something like kind of what they did

01:37:01.939 --> 01:37:04.500
to my dad you know like hey you know we're just

01:37:04.500 --> 01:37:06.979
gonna take all this music and you don't own the

01:37:06.979 --> 01:37:11.100
software so you know like you're sol yeah you

01:37:11.100 --> 01:37:13.220
don't even have to tell you you know like you

01:37:13.220 --> 01:37:15.579
know big stiff middle finger you don't own the

01:37:15.579 --> 01:37:46.770
software Yeah, that's the way it is. I don't

01:37:46.770 --> 01:37:49.649
know, maybe you have a bunch of Photoshop stuff,

01:37:50.029 --> 01:37:52.710
right? What's to keep them from removing things

01:37:52.710 --> 01:37:58.310
that they think is copyrighted? Yeah. I mean,

01:37:58.329 --> 01:38:02.010
there's a bunch of legitimate arguments someone

01:38:02.010 --> 01:38:05.729
can make to say that, like, if you purchase a

01:38:05.729 --> 01:38:08.529
piece of software, you should own it. Yeah, but

01:38:08.529 --> 01:38:11.229
what do you own these days? Not even the games,

01:38:11.369 --> 01:38:13.750
right? If you pay for a game, you just get the

01:38:13.750 --> 01:38:17.300
license and, well, Most of the games, not all

01:38:17.300 --> 01:38:19.260
of them. I think there's still a few that you

01:38:19.260 --> 01:38:22.340
own, right? Right. That's where we're heading

01:38:22.340 --> 01:38:25.100
to, I think. Yeah, no, that's my point. See,

01:38:25.220 --> 01:38:32.659
like if I have a video player on Linux, they

01:38:32.659 --> 01:38:35.420
don't care what I'm listening to. They're not

01:38:35.420 --> 01:38:38.840
going to come. And if they had like a online

01:38:38.840 --> 01:38:42.800
whatever, like that account, I own that account.

01:38:43.300 --> 01:38:46.689
Yeah. Yep. And so they're not going to pull out

01:38:46.689 --> 01:38:50.050
a bunch of music files that, oh, we think this

01:38:50.050 --> 01:38:51.869
is pirate. They're going to be like, you know,

01:38:51.930 --> 01:38:54.609
that's their business. They own it. If you want

01:38:54.609 --> 01:38:59.770
to go after someone, go after them. And so I

01:38:59.770 --> 01:39:05.090
think that, you know, that is probably if you

01:39:05.090 --> 01:39:08.170
were going to talk about like free and open source,

01:39:08.310 --> 01:39:12.939
I think that would probably be. That would probably

01:39:12.939 --> 01:39:17.420
be, if I had to say, that would be my biggest

01:39:17.420 --> 01:39:21.159
objection. You just don't own it. You don't own

01:39:21.159 --> 01:39:24.960
it, yeah. I'm into open source a lot. For example,

01:39:25.079 --> 01:39:28.840
Miobim is the greatest example. Tmux, open source

01:39:28.840 --> 01:39:32.640
tool. A lot of different open source CLI tools

01:39:32.640 --> 01:39:39.340
that I use. So I'm in favor of open source. And

01:39:39.340 --> 01:39:43.670
I always use open source. Well, I use closed

01:39:43.670 --> 01:39:46.149
source stuff if I don't find a better alternative,

01:39:46.310 --> 01:39:49.590
right? Like for music, I'm not going to complicate

01:39:49.590 --> 01:39:52.750
myself. I'm going to use Apple's thingy. It works.

01:39:53.430 --> 01:39:55.829
I don't care too much, right? I'm not going to

01:39:55.829 --> 01:39:59.710
use GIMP, you know? No. I actually use GIMP.

01:40:01.550 --> 01:40:04.470
I've been using it, but GIMP 3 .0 is surprisingly

01:40:04.470 --> 01:40:09.149
good. But I used GIMP, I don't know, 20 years

01:40:09.149 --> 01:40:14.270
ago. complicated i don't even use photoshop you

01:40:14.270 --> 01:40:16.050
know so it's not that i have something against

01:40:16.050 --> 01:40:20.050
gimp i'll just find something that is friendly

01:40:20.050 --> 01:40:22.449
user friendly for me and that is easy to use

01:40:22.449 --> 01:40:25.229
i don't care if it's open source or if it's closed

01:40:25.229 --> 01:40:28.369
source to be honest with you i i do agree you

01:40:28.369 --> 01:40:32.149
know developers have to make a life so i do agree

01:40:32.149 --> 01:40:35.770
on paying for stuff that um that i find useful

01:40:35.770 --> 01:40:37.710
you know if there's an application that i like

01:40:37.710 --> 01:40:40.619
and it's ten dollars to purchase it I'll purchase

01:40:40.619 --> 01:40:43.420
it. You're going to help. It's probably a single

01:40:43.420 --> 01:40:47.199
guy doing it. Yeah, you're helping him make a

01:40:47.199 --> 01:40:51.739
living. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and it's kind

01:40:51.739 --> 01:40:54.539
of interesting. Free and open source software,

01:40:54.859 --> 01:40:58.220
though, you have a lot of alternatives today.

01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:02.979
20 years ago, if somebody said, hey, we want

01:41:02.979 --> 01:41:10.510
to edit video on Linux, probably not. Yeah. Right

01:41:10.510 --> 01:41:14.449
now they got Kdenlive. Man, I'll tell you what,

01:41:14.529 --> 01:41:17.489
that's pretty close to DaVinci Resolve and it's

01:41:17.489 --> 01:41:20.050
free and open source. And do you use DaVinci

01:41:20.050 --> 01:41:24.010
or you use Kdenlive? I use Kdenlive. And why

01:41:24.010 --> 01:41:27.579
you don't use DaVinci? Because it's closed doors?

01:41:27.800 --> 01:41:30.319
Or what's the reason? No, actually, the main

01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:33.479
reason why is in order to install it on your

01:41:33.479 --> 01:41:35.539
computer, it's a huge headache to install it

01:41:35.539 --> 01:41:40.399
on Linux. It basically roots your computer, basically.

01:41:42.159 --> 01:41:45.260
I don't. Yeah. They're like, it's going to mess

01:41:45.260 --> 01:41:48.199
with your grub menu and a bunch of other stuff.

01:41:48.439 --> 01:41:51.020
So it needs too much access then, right? Yes.

01:41:51.159 --> 01:41:55.579
Way too much access. Okay. So you use Kdenlive.

01:41:55.760 --> 01:41:58.539
But that's the only reason. It's not like I hate

01:41:58.539 --> 01:42:01.420
closed source. I hate DaVinci just because it's

01:42:01.420 --> 01:42:02.939
closed source. I'm going to use something. It's

01:42:02.939 --> 01:42:06.319
not totally closed source. It is semi -open source.

01:42:06.760 --> 01:42:09.989
It is? Yeah, I think so, from what I remember.

01:42:10.189 --> 01:42:12.970
I have no idea. I didn't know, for example, that

01:42:12.970 --> 01:42:15.850
Obsidian was closed source, and it is closed

01:42:15.850 --> 01:42:18.329
source. It seems like an open source project,

01:42:18.550 --> 01:42:20.810
the Obsidian, the note -taking app. The plugins

01:42:20.810 --> 01:42:24.369
are open source, I think. Yeah, a lot of the

01:42:24.369 --> 01:42:27.470
community plugins are, definitely. But you're

01:42:27.470 --> 01:42:30.170
not against closed source just for being closed

01:42:30.170 --> 01:42:34.109
source, right? No, I'm not a purist, but I do

01:42:34.109 --> 01:42:37.689
think that there are some concerns. that someone

01:42:37.689 --> 01:42:45.329
needs to be aware of, at least. I do think that

01:42:45.329 --> 01:42:49.770
the world of open source right now, I think what's

01:42:49.770 --> 01:42:52.130
going to happen, and it's really unfortunate,

01:42:52.569 --> 01:42:56.689
at least on my vantage point, is they're going

01:42:56.689 --> 01:43:00.300
to force people to choose sides. What do you

01:43:00.300 --> 01:43:03.800
mean? Okay, so right now there's a civil war

01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:06.479
going on between what is open source and what

01:43:06.479 --> 01:43:12.979
isn't. And basically what they're doing is they're

01:43:12.979 --> 01:43:16.640
pushing people to extremes. Instead of just saying,

01:43:16.699 --> 01:43:18.880
hey, man, we just enjoy open source software.

01:43:19.020 --> 01:43:23.100
We care about the issue of open source. Let's

01:43:23.100 --> 01:43:29.229
all get along. So, like, now they're, you know,

01:43:29.270 --> 01:43:32.630
for example, Ubuntu is not going to be GNU Linux

01:43:32.630 --> 01:43:37.770
for very much longer. Like, they're just going

01:43:37.770 --> 01:43:42.250
to be Linux. Because all the GNU utils are ripped

01:43:42.250 --> 01:43:49.050
out. Stuff going on. Okay. Yeah. So, I think

01:43:49.050 --> 01:43:52.189
that they're going to push people to extremes.

01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:55.960
I don't know what I'm going to end up doing,

01:43:56.039 --> 01:44:01.720
but if they force me that direction, I might

01:44:01.720 --> 01:44:06.319
have to make a really bold decision. But I'm

01:44:06.319 --> 01:44:09.180
kind of trying to hold out as long as possible,

01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:12.520
if that makes sense, because I don't want to

01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:18.310
be the extremist. Yeah. But some of these people,

01:44:18.350 --> 01:44:23.069
especially in Europe, that are ahead of the GNOME

01:44:23.069 --> 01:44:31.630
Foundation and other big projects, they're wanting

01:44:31.630 --> 01:44:34.810
to change the definition. And by changing the

01:44:34.810 --> 01:44:40.170
definition of what the GPL 3 .0 is, they're going

01:44:40.170 --> 01:44:42.550
to force a bunch of people onto one side or the

01:44:42.550 --> 01:44:45.619
other. I think, because either you're going to

01:44:45.619 --> 01:44:49.579
be all FSF and Richard Stallman and using a 14

01:44:49.579 --> 01:44:53.319
-year -old laptop, or you're going to be supporting

01:44:53.319 --> 01:44:58.699
them. They're going to literally force you into

01:44:58.699 --> 01:45:02.380
two camps, where I think now there's a big middle

01:45:02.380 --> 01:45:04.840
ground, and there should be a middle ground.

01:45:05.439 --> 01:45:10.770
And we should all be able to coexist. And see,

01:45:10.850 --> 01:45:14.229
even if, like, say, you use some proprietary

01:45:14.229 --> 01:45:17.869
software, you understand the risks. But at the

01:45:17.869 --> 01:45:22.170
same time, you know, if you read the stuff by,

01:45:22.270 --> 01:45:24.569
like, say, Richard Stallman, for example, and

01:45:24.569 --> 01:45:31.609
you understand why he started the free and open

01:45:31.609 --> 01:45:36.069
source software movement, then you'll go, okay,

01:45:36.250 --> 01:45:40.140
so I do care about this. And I am keeping my

01:45:40.140 --> 01:45:43.199
eye out on this product, on this product, and

01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:45.560
on this product. But I have to use them for work.

01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:48.300
There's not much I can do, but I still care about

01:45:48.300 --> 01:45:52.960
the issue. And you can be in the middle, and

01:45:52.960 --> 01:45:58.439
everybody's cool. And so one thing that no one

01:45:58.439 --> 01:46:01.199
has been able to tell me so far, and this is

01:46:01.199 --> 01:46:03.579
one of the things that I have a problem with.

01:46:04.680 --> 01:46:07.960
Okay, so you changed the definition of the GPL

01:46:07.960 --> 01:46:15.920
3 .0 license. How does that help you? If you

01:46:15.920 --> 01:46:20.520
can make a GPL license proprietary in the future,

01:46:20.659 --> 01:46:25.920
how does that help you? Why can't you just use

01:46:25.920 --> 01:46:31.479
a different license? Nobody's been able to really

01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:34.819
answer that, but they have been after. The GPL

01:46:34.819 --> 01:46:38.260
3 .0. Okay. So they want to have full control.

01:46:39.140 --> 01:46:42.140
Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, they've done it. You

01:46:42.140 --> 01:46:44.920
can read about it. Like they've done like big,

01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:48.300
big, huge campaigns to get rid of Richard Stallman,

01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:52.020
Linus Torvalds, the whole nine yards. And you're

01:46:52.020 --> 01:46:54.779
like, but wait a minute. They're the ones that

01:46:54.779 --> 01:46:57.560
gave you free and open source software. Yeah.

01:46:58.479 --> 01:47:03.380
So your thoughts are they want to close source

01:47:03.380 --> 01:47:06.119
it, right? Big corporations don't want to have

01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:08.260
all of that open source anymore. They want to

01:47:08.260 --> 01:47:11.380
close source it, use it to their advantage, make

01:47:11.380 --> 01:47:17.060
money. Okay. Yep. Okay. Well, I don't know. Makes

01:47:17.060 --> 01:47:21.180
sense. I would guess. Yeah. I would guess. Yeah.

01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:24.319
I think they want to do the same thing that Steve

01:47:24.319 --> 01:47:28.380
Jobs did with BSD and Apple. Okay. Could be.

01:47:28.460 --> 01:47:32.500
They want to create like a cheaper version of,

01:47:33.310 --> 01:47:36.449
mac os maybe the ubuntu guys that they want something

01:47:36.449 --> 01:47:39.149
like that right yeah and i don't even know if

01:47:39.149 --> 01:47:41.130
it's the ubuntu i don't know if they've even

01:47:41.130 --> 01:47:44.489
thought that far ahead but yeah there are a lot

01:47:44.489 --> 01:47:47.430
of people like you know half like all these big

01:47:47.430 --> 01:47:49.649
projects there's a lot of people who want like

01:47:49.649 --> 01:47:53.909
to remove richard stallman from the uh fsf the

01:47:53.909 --> 01:47:57.710
free software foundation you're like why like

01:47:57.710 --> 01:48:00.640
the guy's dying anyway like letting like die

01:48:00.640 --> 01:48:04.600
in peace you know like he's got cancer and how

01:48:04.600 --> 01:48:08.739
old is he now he's in his 70s i think oh okay

01:48:08.739 --> 01:48:13.560
and he's very political too like he's a little

01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:17.279
outspoken and autistic yeah i've watched his

01:48:17.279 --> 01:48:20.899
interviews and all that stuff yeah it's like

01:48:20.899 --> 01:48:25.760
oh but i just like i i I would rather roll with

01:48:25.760 --> 01:48:28.439
him than the rats that are trying to take operations.

01:48:28.859 --> 01:48:34.079
Yeah. Yeah. Same here. Well, I don't know. I

01:48:34.079 --> 01:48:37.180
use Mac OS. So like I said, you know, I have

01:48:37.180 --> 01:48:43.760
no skin in the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we'll

01:48:43.760 --> 01:48:46.979
see. Interesting. Interesting topic. What about

01:48:46.979 --> 01:48:49.779
let's switch gears. We've been in the call for

01:48:49.779 --> 01:48:52.420
two hours. We have a lot of topics. I think we

01:48:52.420 --> 01:48:56.420
will probably have to do a part two, depending

01:48:56.420 --> 01:49:00.180
on what people say. Do you want to do a part

01:49:00.180 --> 01:49:02.880
two or do you want to continue and see how far

01:49:02.880 --> 01:49:06.800
we can get? Oh, it's up to you. I got the time.

01:49:07.060 --> 01:49:11.939
If you got the beer, I got the time, as they

01:49:11.939 --> 01:49:14.199
say. All right. Let's try that. Proverbially.

01:49:14.619 --> 01:49:16.899
Let's try to wrap it up quicker. Yeah, let's

01:49:16.899 --> 01:49:18.359
try to move a little bit faster and let's see

01:49:18.359 --> 01:49:22.699
where we get to. So in Linux, you have a window

01:49:22.699 --> 01:49:26.739
manager you mentioned. What was it? Like the

01:49:26.739 --> 01:49:30.899
one I was using with Spectre WM. Okay. I know

01:49:30.899 --> 01:49:34.420
nothing about Linux window managers, but Linux

01:49:34.420 --> 01:49:37.199
folks watching this are probably understanding

01:49:37.199 --> 01:49:40.619
what you're talking about. What layout do you

01:49:40.619 --> 01:49:43.039
use? Do you use BSP in your window manager or

01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:45.279
you just... one application on the screen at

01:49:45.279 --> 01:49:48.000
a time what are your thoughts so a lot of so

01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:51.439
yeah most most of the time i only use like one

01:49:51.439 --> 01:49:54.479
or two like they'll either like stack right next

01:49:54.479 --> 01:49:57.960
to each other or they'll be the full application

01:49:57.960 --> 01:50:00.920
i still have like problems with like floating

01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:03.579
windows i usually have to write like a separate

01:50:03.579 --> 01:50:06.579
script to keep them on top and things like that

01:50:06.579 --> 01:50:11.680
but But to make that happen, you have to put

01:50:11.680 --> 01:50:14.539
applications on desktops, right? So let's say

01:50:14.539 --> 01:50:17.500
if I open four applications and if I don't arrange

01:50:17.500 --> 01:50:19.579
them the way that I need, all of them are going

01:50:19.579 --> 01:50:21.939
to open up in the same desktop and I'll have

01:50:21.939 --> 01:50:23.899
four on the screen and they're going to be quite

01:50:23.899 --> 01:50:26.399
small. So you have to put them in different desktops.

01:50:26.399 --> 01:50:28.319
So they open up. Yeah, they got to be floating.

01:50:28.500 --> 01:50:32.359
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's one of the reasons why

01:50:32.359 --> 01:50:35.840
I just, because. in the window manager that i

01:50:35.840 --> 01:50:38.699
use in mac os we do have that bsp right what

01:50:38.699 --> 01:50:42.260
is that um they partition right so if i open

01:50:42.260 --> 01:50:44.079
four apps each one of them is going to occupy

01:50:44.079 --> 01:50:47.600
a quarter of the screen right or if i if i open

01:50:47.600 --> 01:50:50.340
two half of the screen for each i don't want

01:50:50.340 --> 01:50:53.359
to deal with that right i just now the way that

01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:55.380
i use the window manager in mac os is that i

01:50:55.380 --> 01:50:57.600
open an application and it's just going to occupy

01:50:57.600 --> 01:51:02.060
the entire screen the way that you see on my

01:51:02.060 --> 01:51:07.170
screen right so if i switch to my um terminal

01:51:07.170 --> 01:51:10.029
or if i switch to the browser or any other application

01:51:10.029 --> 01:51:13.270
i'm gonna use up the entire screen i don't want

01:51:13.270 --> 01:51:15.850
to be managing apps basically that's what i'm

01:51:15.850 --> 01:51:19.569
trying to say yeah so i did actually have like

01:51:19.569 --> 01:51:26.270
a quick video on our uh on that specific If you

01:51:26.270 --> 01:51:29.970
take a – actually, I don't have – I won't re

01:51:29.970 --> 01:51:33.909
-spin it up. But you can see I did a – like this

01:51:33.909 --> 01:51:37.590
is highly customized. But you can see on my video.

01:51:38.050 --> 01:51:42.810
Which one? It's way down. It's down. The one

01:51:42.810 --> 01:51:45.670
where it says discover the best Arch Linux configuration,

01:51:46.229 --> 01:51:49.180
blah, blah, blah, blah. That one. This one. Okay.

01:51:49.300 --> 01:51:52.739
Yeah. It's just like a quick overview of some

01:51:52.739 --> 01:51:56.899
of the layouts and stuff. I don't use most of

01:51:56.899 --> 01:52:02.239
them. And it's kind of funny because that video

01:52:02.239 --> 01:52:05.779
I thought would take off because it was really

01:52:05.779 --> 01:52:12.340
highly configured. It didn't really gain traction,

01:52:12.560 --> 01:52:16.510
but it got traction on Unix porn. got some serious

01:52:16.510 --> 01:52:22.029
traction like like over a thousand people like

01:52:22.029 --> 01:52:28.489
gave me a thumbs up on it like that's crazy okay

01:52:28.489 --> 01:52:31.109
so you have a lot of different options layouts

01:52:31.109 --> 01:52:35.489
and all that yeah i don't use them yeah i when

01:52:35.489 --> 01:52:38.789
i'm setting it up i set it up mainly for other

01:52:38.789 --> 01:52:41.869
people like if they want to set it up i show

01:52:41.869 --> 01:52:46.159
them how to do it but for the most part I can't

01:52:46.159 --> 01:52:50.899
remember the last time I had more than two apps

01:52:50.899 --> 01:52:54.319
on a screen. Yeah. And they're just kind of side

01:52:54.319 --> 01:52:56.880
by side if I need another one. It's because I

01:52:56.880 --> 01:52:59.880
got two monitors most of the time too. So I just

01:52:59.880 --> 01:53:03.640
like, I'll just go. And I love how Spectre WM

01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:06.680
handles dual monitors. I don't like how like

01:53:06.680 --> 01:53:11.369
some of the others. There's DWM. there is uh

01:53:11.369 --> 01:53:16.369
that i like dwm a lot but you have to know how

01:53:16.369 --> 01:53:20.569
to patch uh c code in order to get a bunch of

01:53:20.569 --> 01:53:23.470
different options that's part of the cyclist

01:53:23.470 --> 01:53:27.930
utility like d menu for example and uh they have

01:53:27.930 --> 01:53:33.829
a lot of really cool stuff but um it's very very

01:53:33.829 --> 01:53:38.569
archaic uh code that they've put together it's

01:53:38.569 --> 01:53:41.560
like I don't know how to describe it, but it's

01:53:41.560 --> 01:53:44.359
minimalist. So it's a window manager with less

01:53:44.359 --> 01:53:48.539
than a thousand lines of code, essentially. And

01:53:48.539 --> 01:53:51.000
so if you want anything extra, you have to patch

01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:54.819
it in. Oh, okay, yeah. And it gets a little hairy

01:53:54.819 --> 01:53:57.039
sometimes if you don't know what you're doing.

01:53:57.380 --> 01:54:00.359
Oh, I can't imagine. Yeah, you got to watch a

01:54:00.359 --> 01:54:03.960
couple of videos to see how to patch it in because

01:54:03.960 --> 01:54:06.819
it doesn't always patch correctly. And then you

01:54:06.819 --> 01:54:09.380
got to go ahead and make the corrections. Another

01:54:09.380 --> 01:54:13.260
one that is really kind of hard to configure,

01:54:13.479 --> 01:54:16.819
but I really like as well, it's X Window Manager,

01:54:17.079 --> 01:54:22.960
is Exmonet. I think XMODAT's the coolest window

01:54:22.960 --> 01:54:28.079
manager ever. Oh, really? Yeah, I do. But it's

01:54:28.079 --> 01:54:31.039
written in Haskell, and not too many people program

01:54:31.039 --> 01:54:34.199
in Haskell, so they don't really. And then the

01:54:34.199 --> 01:54:40.159
documentation is like, it's not very clear. Oh,

01:54:40.180 --> 01:54:44.060
I see. It takes you time to put together features

01:54:44.060 --> 01:54:47.159
and stuff like that. Oh, I was just going to

01:54:47.159 --> 01:54:49.439
say that in Mac OS, we only have basically two.

01:54:49.539 --> 01:54:52.739
One is called Yabai. The other one is called

01:54:52.739 --> 01:54:57.819
Aerospace. I don't know about the other one.

01:54:57.859 --> 01:55:01.079
I don't know how Aerospace works, to be honest

01:55:01.079 --> 01:55:06.699
with you. But there's more. There's some basic

01:55:06.699 --> 01:55:10.100
like window managers in Mac OS, Amethyst and

01:55:10.100 --> 01:55:12.180
some other stuff like that. I don't even count

01:55:12.180 --> 01:55:16.010
them because I want something that is more. Similar

01:55:16.010 --> 01:55:18.670
to Linux. I would say those are the two. I just

01:55:18.670 --> 01:55:22.630
use the API. Pretty basic usage, basically. Yeah.

01:55:23.130 --> 01:55:28.270
Yeah. And Wayland, for example, they have some

01:55:28.270 --> 01:55:36.029
cool tiling window managers. Like, for example,

01:55:36.289 --> 01:55:42.869
they have Hyperland. Oh, Hyperland. I've heard

01:55:42.869 --> 01:55:47.369
about that in videos. Yeah, I've used it a little

01:55:47.369 --> 01:55:53.170
bit. I do like it. It's just, I don't know, like

01:55:53.170 --> 01:55:57.869
I'm still like, I'm just kind of getting comfortable

01:55:57.869 --> 01:56:01.949
with Weyland. Like I've been, you know, putting

01:56:01.949 --> 01:56:04.649
it off like using anything Weyland because I

01:56:04.649 --> 01:56:09.130
just didn't think it was stable enough. Yeah.

01:56:09.590 --> 01:56:13.550
Okay, okay. And what about the terminal? Which

01:56:13.550 --> 01:56:17.710
one do you use? So these days I normally use

01:56:17.710 --> 01:56:24.170
Kitty, Westterm, Ghosty is okay. For some of

01:56:24.170 --> 01:56:27.430
my scripts, though, sometimes I use just ST,

01:56:27.649 --> 01:56:30.770
which is part of the suckless utilities. I set

01:56:30.770 --> 01:56:35.630
up like I have a lot of, I have a custom configuration

01:56:35.630 --> 01:56:40.960
of ST that I like. that I've used for, I don't

01:56:40.960 --> 01:56:44.340
know, probably 10 years or so. The only thing

01:56:44.340 --> 01:56:46.560
that's changed over the years with that is probably

01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:50.920
the color scheme. The color scheme's changed,

01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:53.680
but pretty much that's about it. But mostly I

01:56:53.680 --> 01:56:56.000
use that. Then I use this one that they give

01:56:56.000 --> 01:57:04.659
me with Aurora. It's called Texas, but it's spelled

01:57:04.659 --> 01:57:08.520
a little weird. I'll show you. Did they develop

01:57:08.520 --> 01:57:12.779
it or is it like... Yes. Yeah, they did. Okay.

01:57:15.100 --> 01:57:21.359
But it's P -T -Y -X -I -S. Something like this.

01:57:21.399 --> 01:57:25.739
I think it's like that. Okay. Something like

01:57:25.739 --> 01:57:31.260
that. Anyway... It's a really good terminal for

01:57:31.260 --> 01:57:34.359
the most part. And this right here is where like

01:57:34.359 --> 01:57:38.659
all of my distro boxes are. So I can get into

01:57:38.659 --> 01:57:42.739
my containers as well. So that's kind of cool.

01:57:42.840 --> 01:57:46.199
So I've been using that a lot. And so I have

01:57:46.199 --> 01:57:50.979
like two shortcuts. So like, you know, like super

01:57:50.979 --> 01:57:55.319
return will launch that one. And then control

01:57:55.319 --> 01:58:00.029
super return launches kitty. oh okay so you use

01:58:00.029 --> 01:58:03.630
the popular ones kitty western ghosty that's

01:58:03.630 --> 01:58:05.710
what the cool kids are using nowadays and you're

01:58:05.710 --> 01:58:10.810
also using this one and st yeah okay yeah okay

01:58:10.810 --> 01:58:16.409
yeah yeah i uh i i really like this actually

01:58:16.409 --> 01:58:21.850
um i really like um But I like, this one doesn't

01:58:21.850 --> 01:58:25.029
have image rendering, so I only use this when

01:58:25.029 --> 01:58:27.890
I don't have images I need to see and stuff like

01:58:27.890 --> 01:58:30.369
that. To see in the terminal. Okay, okay. And

01:58:30.369 --> 01:58:35.369
text editor or ID that you use, which one is

01:58:35.369 --> 01:58:40.050
it? Okay, so this one has been kind of back and

01:58:40.050 --> 01:58:46.670
forth for a long time. I used, I used NeoVim

01:58:46.670 --> 01:58:52.970
probably. From the beginning. I used Vim. Then

01:58:52.970 --> 01:58:57.050
I went to NeoVim. I had my own config and everything

01:58:57.050 --> 01:59:01.550
else. Then I went to Emacs for a while. I used

01:59:01.550 --> 01:59:04.449
Emacs for about two years, like Doom Emacs. I

01:59:04.449 --> 01:59:09.409
liked it. But it's not fast enough. That's the

01:59:09.409 --> 01:59:12.409
only problem. When you're actually doing actual

01:59:12.409 --> 01:59:16.369
work, it's not fast enough. But now I'm on NeoVim.

01:59:18.409 --> 01:59:22.710
So NeoVim is the one then. Yeah. And do you use

01:59:22.710 --> 01:59:25.989
your own setup for NeoVim, like your own configuration,

01:59:25.989 --> 01:59:31.890
or you use a distribution? So I landed on AstroVim.

01:59:32.109 --> 01:59:36.409
I tried like LazyInVim. I tried Kickstart or

01:59:36.409 --> 01:59:41.210
whatever that is by TJ. I tried a bunch of them.

01:59:41.659 --> 01:59:45.399
and i still like have them like i have my switcher

01:59:45.399 --> 01:59:48.159
i think you did you see my switcher oh yeah i

01:59:48.159 --> 01:59:51.000
did see that you created a video right about

01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:54.840
a switcher yeah it's different configs yeah yeah

01:59:54.840 --> 02:00:04.640
so um yeah i um so i can switch to like lazy

02:00:04.640 --> 02:00:08.550
vim i want to mess around with it but astro It

02:00:08.550 --> 02:00:11.489
comes with all the tools that I use for the most

02:00:11.489 --> 02:00:21.210
part, but it doesn't, it isn't, like, I don't

02:00:21.210 --> 02:00:25.449
know how to put this. So, like, with NeoVim,

02:00:25.470 --> 02:00:30.989
like, when you download, like, the Lazy InVim,

02:00:31.050 --> 02:00:33.750
there's, like, everything in the kitchen sink.

02:00:33.789 --> 02:00:36.819
I would have to, like, gut it. to be able to

02:00:36.819 --> 02:00:40.399
use it right do you know what i mean like it

02:00:40.399 --> 02:00:43.779
is so like involved there's so much stuff and

02:00:43.779 --> 02:00:46.319
it's like like i wouldn't even know where to

02:00:46.319 --> 02:00:50.020
start like it's just so much and it's like i

02:00:50.020 --> 02:00:53.359
press the wrong key and oh and like the worst

02:00:53.359 --> 02:00:59.119
thing that that i like folky that noise plugin

02:01:00.039 --> 02:01:02.180
all the notifications that you see on the right

02:01:02.180 --> 02:01:04.819
hand side top right corner yeah please throw

02:01:04.819 --> 02:01:08.039
that in the trash like i'm sorry that is the

02:01:08.039 --> 02:01:12.199
worst but but it's manageable look at this look

02:01:12.199 --> 02:01:13.859
at this i'm just gonna show you i'm just gonna

02:01:13.859 --> 02:01:16.779
switch here to my dot files right and if i quit

02:01:16.779 --> 02:01:20.159
here i'm gonna open any of them i'm gonna open

02:01:20.159 --> 02:01:23.140
a little file right so usually if i open the

02:01:23.140 --> 02:01:26.000
key maps file you would see all of those on the

02:01:26.000 --> 02:01:28.840
top right corner right and it's pretty annoying

02:01:28.840 --> 02:01:32.420
but look at how it looks for me notice the bottom

02:01:32.420 --> 02:01:35.140
right corner that's where i have them right so

02:01:35.140 --> 02:01:38.060
i have them there and i don't have the the big

02:01:38.060 --> 02:01:42.539
square and thousands of boxes that show it doesn't

02:01:42.539 --> 02:01:44.220
annoy me right because it's there on the right

02:01:44.220 --> 02:01:47.979
hand side so oh okay that isn't terrible yeah

02:01:47.979 --> 02:01:50.979
oh my god it's just like and it would like oh

02:01:50.979 --> 02:01:56.699
like and nothing would install right oh man like

02:01:56.699 --> 02:01:59.750
it's just like it is a little it is a little

02:01:59.750 --> 02:02:01.989
bit complicated when you start with the lazy

02:02:01.989 --> 02:02:06.470
vim distro but yeah i i saw that like uh dev's

02:02:06.470 --> 02:02:11.329
lab like he he did uh something with that as

02:02:11.329 --> 02:02:14.369
well right like he he i think he was the one

02:02:14.369 --> 02:02:17.630
that disabled it right oh the the noise thing

02:02:17.630 --> 02:02:21.939
the notifications Yeah, I guess so. I still like

02:02:21.939 --> 02:02:24.460
to see them because sometimes, you know, if there

02:02:24.460 --> 02:02:26.960
is a warning or something, it's kind of useful

02:02:26.960 --> 02:02:31.260
sometimes. Right. But I got tired of it, of having

02:02:31.260 --> 02:02:33.579
all the pop ups on the right top on the top right

02:02:33.579 --> 02:02:36.119
corner. So I just modified it. Now it shows there

02:02:36.119 --> 02:02:40.039
and it doesn't bother me. But you have to research

02:02:40.039 --> 02:02:43.159
and you have to find a way to do it. You know,

02:02:43.180 --> 02:02:45.460
you have to get to know the distribution. You

02:02:45.460 --> 02:02:48.380
have to know how how to do stuff. And it takes

02:02:48.380 --> 02:02:51.859
time. i'm not i'm not saying it's easy it has

02:02:51.859 --> 02:02:54.939
taken me months to be able to set it up the way

02:02:54.939 --> 02:03:00.060
that i want it you know so yeah yeah just it's

02:03:00.060 --> 02:03:03.720
like i set up astro vim like i changed things

02:03:03.720 --> 02:03:07.859
out like i changed the bottom panel i changed

02:03:07.859 --> 02:03:13.439
um I took out noise. I put snacks in. You know,

02:03:13.500 --> 02:03:16.140
I mean, I did a lot of stuff where, like, I've

02:03:16.140 --> 02:03:19.640
pretty much gutted AstroVim, too. Okay. But it

02:03:19.640 --> 02:03:22.560
was so much easier. Like, it wasn't like, wait,

02:03:22.680 --> 02:03:24.800
where do I even start? It was like, oh, okay.

02:03:25.119 --> 02:03:27.460
Like, okay, I'm going to replace this. I'm going

02:03:27.460 --> 02:03:30.180
to gut that. And I'm going to disable that. It

02:03:30.180 --> 02:03:32.899
was like, it was easy. It was simpler, yeah.

02:03:33.520 --> 02:03:36.060
LazyVim is a little bit difficult. It comes with

02:03:36.060 --> 02:03:39.210
a lot of stuff. It's difficult, but. Yeah, I

02:03:39.210 --> 02:03:41.590
haven't tried any other. I still have to try,

02:03:41.649 --> 02:03:44.850
you know, Astro or other distros. This one works

02:03:44.850 --> 02:03:47.609
for me, so I'm not someone that is going to be

02:03:47.609 --> 02:03:50.289
jumping around stuff. If I find something that

02:03:50.289 --> 02:03:52.670
works, I just stick to it, and I don't change,

02:03:52.829 --> 02:03:54.789
unless there's, like, a specific reason. But,

02:03:54.829 --> 02:03:58.590
okay, good to know. Yeah, let's prove it. Yeah.

02:03:59.369 --> 02:04:02.550
File folder, I think it's just Neotree or Nerdtree.

02:04:02.729 --> 02:04:05.869
Oh, nothing special, just, okay, Neotree, okay.

02:04:05.909 --> 02:04:09.689
Well, sometimes I use oil. Okay, oil. Because

02:04:09.689 --> 02:04:13.130
of the buffers, I like just, you know, like adding

02:04:13.130 --> 02:04:16.170
and taking away files in the buffer. Like, that's

02:04:16.170 --> 02:04:19.250
cool. And what do you think about mini .files?

02:04:20.430 --> 02:04:23.329
That one's really interesting to me. I really

02:04:23.329 --> 02:04:26.630
want to check that out a little bit. In fact,

02:04:26.810 --> 02:04:31.130
that has been on my bucket list to do a video

02:04:31.130 --> 02:04:36.170
between mini and oil and comparing them because

02:04:36.170 --> 02:04:39.779
I think that is a... very very good video to

02:04:39.779 --> 02:04:44.739
make yeah yeah it is yeah a lot of people love

02:04:44.739 --> 02:04:48.359
oil a lot man if i go to reddit i i post a lot

02:04:48.359 --> 02:04:51.260
on reddit you know and a lot of them love oil

02:04:51.260 --> 02:04:56.500
but i love the main reason why i love mini is

02:04:56.500 --> 02:05:00.539
because i can treat these as in a buffer you

02:05:00.539 --> 02:05:02.840
know i can manipulate files the same way that

02:05:02.840 --> 02:05:06.340
i do in oil i can do it here but what I like

02:05:06.340 --> 02:05:08.779
about it is the features, the preview, right?

02:05:08.920 --> 02:05:11.899
I can quickly see, okay, so this is this file,

02:05:12.060 --> 02:05:14.899
this is this file. I can go back to the previous

02:05:14.899 --> 02:05:18.319
directory and I can say, okay, I don't even have

02:05:18.319 --> 02:05:21.039
to open the file, right? I know what this bind

02:05:21.039 --> 02:05:27.100
syntax file has, right? So I think, I think I

02:05:27.100 --> 02:05:30.680
like that quite a lot, but I also like what Folky

02:05:30.680 --> 02:05:36.779
included, this picker. Oh, yeah. You get a preview.

02:05:36.840 --> 02:05:39.020
You can even preview images, man. That's crazy.

02:05:39.260 --> 02:05:42.180
I didn't know about that. So I can preview images

02:05:42.180 --> 02:05:47.020
in this picker, man. That's that's awesome. Yeah,

02:05:47.159 --> 02:05:50.380
I want to like get into that. Yeah, I haven't

02:05:50.380 --> 02:05:54.000
I have I have been neglecting my new Vim and

02:05:54.000 --> 02:05:58.760
there's kind of a reason for it. So before before

02:05:58.760 --> 02:06:01.979
yesterday, I was about eight inches higher than

02:06:01.979 --> 02:06:06.600
I normally am. But my neck was hurting, and I

02:06:06.600 --> 02:06:09.300
couldn't sit at my computer for very long because

02:06:09.300 --> 02:06:13.680
my neck was hurting. And so I cut the legs off

02:06:13.680 --> 02:06:17.039
of my chair, so I go down about another eight

02:06:17.039 --> 02:06:19.640
inches, and so now my neck isn't hurting. So

02:06:19.640 --> 02:06:28.079
now I'll be able to focus on my... Your config.

02:06:28.439 --> 02:06:33.520
My config and all the stuff that I do because

02:06:33.520 --> 02:06:36.699
I make a video or I do a live stream. By the

02:06:36.699 --> 02:06:39.500
time I did a live stream or when I teach English

02:06:39.500 --> 02:06:42.399
at night, every night my neck was just killing

02:06:42.399 --> 02:06:48.439
me. And so now I'm looking up. and so that's

02:06:48.439 --> 02:06:51.600
so much better i got my my keyboard right at

02:06:51.600 --> 02:06:54.300
my hands now and so it's a little bit better

02:06:54.300 --> 02:06:56.600
before i had to like kind of put it in my lap

02:06:56.600 --> 02:07:00.739
because i had like a shelf that i'd pull out

02:07:00.739 --> 02:07:04.119
and put it on there but that kind of broke and

02:07:04.119 --> 02:07:07.960
a bunch of other stuff so now i'm like i was

02:07:07.960 --> 02:07:10.859
so much more comfortable now i can actually work

02:07:10.859 --> 02:07:14.079
on some of this a little bit more yeah i really

02:07:14.079 --> 02:07:18.619
want to work on the note -taking aspect and um

02:07:18.619 --> 02:07:25.319
on on aurora they have this deal where um you

02:07:25.319 --> 02:07:29.000
can set up they have the easiest way to set up

02:07:29.000 --> 02:07:37.000
a docker container through vs code and then In

02:07:37.000 --> 02:07:40.100
order to use NeoVim inside that Docker container,

02:07:40.300 --> 02:07:45.819
what they do is they just basically copy an instance

02:07:45.819 --> 02:07:50.920
of your config, and then you install NeoVim inside

02:07:50.920 --> 02:07:53.659
that Docker container, and you can use your Docker

02:07:53.659 --> 02:07:59.199
container inside there. And so I'm really kind

02:07:59.199 --> 02:08:01.739
of curious to see how that's going to roll out.

02:08:03.020 --> 02:08:06.060
I haven't, you know, I've only, I've just been

02:08:06.060 --> 02:08:10.060
investigating a lot of this stuff. So, yeah.

02:08:10.739 --> 02:08:12.779
Yeah, it's going to be really interesting, some

02:08:12.779 --> 02:08:18.300
of the stuff. But one thing that a lot of people

02:08:18.300 --> 02:08:21.819
are doing here, this is kind of why it appeals

02:08:21.819 --> 02:08:24.939
to me, is that they're doing like all the, using

02:08:24.939 --> 02:08:27.380
all this cloud technology and then they take

02:08:27.380 --> 02:08:31.479
everything that they learned and they enter the...

02:08:31.659 --> 02:08:34.979
Yeah, they enter the job market. I do like that

02:08:34.979 --> 02:08:37.659
approach of containerization. I don't know if

02:08:37.659 --> 02:08:41.140
it, well, I guess applications will take a performance

02:08:41.140 --> 02:08:43.979
hit, you know. I don't know if you feel the difference

02:08:43.979 --> 02:08:46.039
or not. If I don't feel the difference, I don't

02:08:46.039 --> 02:08:49.479
care where it runs or how it runs. If I feel

02:08:49.479 --> 02:08:53.140
that it's snappy, I don't care too much, you

02:08:53.140 --> 02:08:56.420
know. But it's interesting to see how that is

02:08:56.420 --> 02:09:03.350
taking place now. Yeah, I don't notice a difference

02:09:03.350 --> 02:09:06.750
in small things and small applications. I never

02:09:06.750 --> 02:09:12.210
noticed a difference. And like a lot of my Linux

02:09:12.210 --> 02:09:16.649
purist friends, they're against flatpaks. I'm

02:09:16.649 --> 02:09:21.470
not. They're against snaps, app images. I think

02:09:21.470 --> 02:09:26.369
they're cool. I don't use snaps because it roots

02:09:26.369 --> 02:09:31.630
your computer. Again, they have a little too

02:09:31.630 --> 02:09:36.789
much access for my liking. But I don't hate it.

02:09:36.810 --> 02:09:39.390
I don't hate the project. There's very few projects

02:09:39.390 --> 02:09:44.170
in Linux that I hate. Very few. What are your

02:09:44.170 --> 02:09:46.289
friends going to say that you're talking to a

02:09:46.289 --> 02:09:51.590
macOS guy? What's your audience going to think

02:09:51.590 --> 02:09:55.010
that you're a sellout? And when you get the Apple

02:09:55.010 --> 02:09:59.939
tattoo? When you get the Apple tattoo, what are

02:09:59.939 --> 02:10:03.760
they going to do? Oh, now there's some fire there.

02:10:06.319 --> 02:10:09.420
That won't happen, I can promise you. I know

02:10:09.420 --> 02:10:13.399
you're trying to convert me. It's all good. No,

02:10:13.520 --> 02:10:16.279
I respect everyone's opinions, you know, and

02:10:16.279 --> 02:10:19.640
I respect what everyone decides to use. I have

02:10:19.640 --> 02:10:23.039
had Josh, Joshua Blaze. He uses Emacs and he's

02:10:23.039 --> 02:10:26.100
into Linux, right? And we just talk about Emacs

02:10:26.100 --> 02:10:28.979
and Linux. I don't see the point, you know, I

02:10:28.979 --> 02:10:32.060
don't see why would you have to take sides, right?

02:10:32.159 --> 02:10:36.859
Just use whatever works for you. Right. And like

02:10:36.859 --> 02:10:42.720
people have preferences, right? I have preferences

02:10:42.720 --> 02:10:48.380
for Linux on moral reasons, but then on just

02:10:48.380 --> 02:10:51.359
the fact that I like the ecosystem, I like using

02:10:51.359 --> 02:10:55.630
it. been using it for so long that it's just

02:10:55.630 --> 02:10:58.810
a part of who i am now yeah you cannot just change

02:10:58.810 --> 02:11:02.470
who you are yeah yeah and you know i get like

02:11:02.470 --> 02:11:07.529
you know i used mac for 30 years i used macintosh

02:11:07.529 --> 02:11:12.689
off and on for 30 years um i get why people like

02:11:12.689 --> 02:11:16.350
mac i do i mean i'm not going to sit there and

02:11:16.350 --> 02:11:20.420
say That you're, oh, hey, come over here to Linux.

02:11:20.619 --> 02:11:23.439
Oh, you want to record music and you want to

02:11:23.439 --> 02:11:26.520
edit software? Well, it's just going to be all

02:11:26.520 --> 02:11:33.140
roses and rainbows. I don't think that's reality.

02:11:33.579 --> 02:11:37.100
Yeah, no. You have to be real, right? Yeah, but

02:11:37.100 --> 02:11:41.960
there are workarounds. They aren't terrible anymore.

02:11:45.020 --> 02:11:48.039
You know, if your moral compass says, hey, you

02:11:48.039 --> 02:11:50.739
know, maybe I want to be a little less corporate

02:11:50.739 --> 02:11:56.199
and a little bit more, you know, more grassroots,

02:11:56.500 --> 02:12:03.779
you know, hacker -ish type. You know, this is

02:12:03.779 --> 02:12:07.659
a problem that I have from Steve Jobs or from

02:12:07.659 --> 02:12:13.390
Bill Gates. They were hackers in the 70s. Read

02:12:13.390 --> 02:12:16.310
their history. They were hackers. But they won't

02:12:16.310 --> 02:12:19.510
stop you from being a hacker. Like, imagine what

02:12:19.510 --> 02:12:22.130
that does to the education in computer science.

02:12:22.789 --> 02:12:26.289
Yeah. They just want to have end users. But I

02:12:26.289 --> 02:12:29.109
guess they just want things to be simple. But

02:12:29.109 --> 02:12:33.630
like this type of subjects, we feel passionate

02:12:33.630 --> 02:12:37.489
about them, right? But if I give an Apple computer

02:12:37.489 --> 02:12:40.449
or a Linux computer to my dad. And he cannot

02:12:40.449 --> 02:12:43.789
even use Windows that well, you know? So how

02:12:43.789 --> 02:12:46.289
many, what's the percentage of the population

02:12:46.289 --> 02:12:50.029
that enjoys doing this type of stuff? Well, if

02:12:50.029 --> 02:12:53.350
you gave him a Linux computer, like with like

02:12:53.350 --> 02:12:57.729
the Cinnamon desktop or, yeah, yeah, something

02:12:57.729 --> 02:13:01.329
like MX Linux or something. But then he has an

02:13:01.329 --> 02:13:03.350
audio issue and he has to go into the terminal

02:13:03.350 --> 02:13:07.550
and type some commands. Not generally, not if

02:13:07.550 --> 02:13:12.279
he's got an older computer. Okay. No, no. Seriously,

02:13:13.140 --> 02:13:19.000
I have zero audio issues. It is so rare. The

02:13:19.000 --> 02:13:26.159
other day I had an audio issue using Jitsi. Okay.

02:13:26.359 --> 02:13:29.079
And I don't know why there was that conflict,

02:13:29.199 --> 02:13:33.960
but it cut my microphone off. And I was in a

02:13:33.960 --> 02:13:36.680
live stream. And that kind of sucked because

02:13:36.680 --> 02:13:40.520
for an hour I was mute. Oh, in the live stream.

02:13:40.520 --> 02:13:47.640
I'm sitting there talking. And you still have

02:13:47.640 --> 02:13:51.479
the video up? Yeah, I got it up. No, I didn't

02:13:51.479 --> 02:13:54.260
take it down. That just happened a week ago,

02:13:54.340 --> 02:13:56.779
actually. No, it happens everywhere. Because

02:13:56.779 --> 02:14:02.159
I had a call with another guy. Lazar Nikolaev

02:14:02.159 --> 02:14:05.600
is his name. He's also into macOS and all that

02:14:05.600 --> 02:14:07.659
stuff. We did the same thing that we're doing

02:14:07.659 --> 02:14:09.960
right now. But for some reason, my microphone

02:14:09.960 --> 02:14:15.199
was dropping every five minutes. It was painful.

02:14:15.579 --> 02:14:18.220
All of a sudden, he used to tell me, I cannot

02:14:18.220 --> 02:14:22.220
hear you anymore. Oh, yeah. I heard that a couple

02:14:22.220 --> 02:14:25.520
of times in that. That was the one that I saw,

02:14:25.600 --> 02:14:29.039
yeah. Oh, no, but I caught those parts. I removed

02:14:29.039 --> 02:14:33.100
those parts. Okay. Well, there was that one or

02:14:33.100 --> 02:14:35.859
two that I think made it because I heard, like,

02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:38.579
I can't hear you or something. Oh, really? Could

02:14:38.579 --> 02:14:41.159
be. Could be that I missed it. Yeah, it could

02:14:41.159 --> 02:14:43.979
be for sure. But, man, I did it. I don't know.

02:14:44.000 --> 02:14:48.060
The microphone caught, like, in the call 10 or

02:14:48.060 --> 02:14:51.100
15 times. It was painful. I had to be refreshing

02:14:51.100 --> 02:14:54.579
the browser. But all I needed to do was a restart.

02:14:55.149 --> 02:14:57.810
Now I learned it, you know, before I'm going

02:14:57.810 --> 02:15:00.590
to do one of these calls, I'm just going to restart

02:15:00.590 --> 02:15:04.329
the computer. Yes. Yes. I learned it the hard

02:15:04.329 --> 02:15:07.170
way, man. Yesterday I had another call. I restarted

02:15:07.170 --> 02:15:10.090
before. No issues. Today I restarted before.

02:15:10.489 --> 02:15:13.270
No issues. No issues. Something gets stuck in

02:15:13.270 --> 02:15:17.010
the way, you know, and just restart before. Yeah,

02:15:17.050 --> 02:15:19.710
actually, when I teach English at night, I have

02:15:19.710 --> 02:15:24.630
to run Windows in a virtual machine because I

02:15:24.630 --> 02:15:30.289
refuse to. Dude, I have an i7 with an NVIDIA

02:15:30.289 --> 02:15:33.449
graphics card. Am I going to run Windows on that?

02:15:34.329 --> 02:15:37.979
Not likely. But anyway, so when I teach English,

02:15:38.239 --> 02:15:40.739
like when I get done doing this kind of thing,

02:15:40.880 --> 02:15:43.939
I have to restart the computer before or else

02:15:43.939 --> 02:15:46.800
I might have issues. And sometimes I do. Yeah,

02:15:46.800 --> 02:15:50.699
it's better just to play it safe. So what do

02:15:50.699 --> 02:15:54.640
you say about this? Let's leave the video here

02:15:54.640 --> 02:15:57.000
for now because we've been talking for two and

02:15:57.000 --> 02:15:59.260
a half hours. I know that you have stuff to do.

02:15:59.300 --> 02:16:02.220
I have stuff to do. My wife is probably sending

02:16:02.220 --> 02:16:07.180
me messages and all that stuff. But let's see

02:16:07.180 --> 02:16:10.399
what the audience says, right? If there is someone

02:16:10.399 --> 02:16:13.739
still watching, let us know. Because I don't

02:16:13.739 --> 02:16:16.220
know if people like these videos or not. I don't

02:16:16.220 --> 02:16:18.960
know if people watch them till the end or not.

02:16:19.119 --> 02:16:21.340
Because there's a few folks that do watch them

02:16:21.340 --> 02:16:24.119
all the way through, right? So if there's someone

02:16:24.119 --> 02:16:27.140
watching this, let me know in the comments. Hey,

02:16:27.359 --> 02:16:32.280
I did like this. Please create part two. We can

02:16:32.280 --> 02:16:35.639
get together and do it. Put after party in the

02:16:35.639 --> 02:16:38.879
description in the section below. After party.

02:16:38.940 --> 02:16:43.840
After party in the comments, right? Because there's

02:16:43.840 --> 02:16:45.719
still a lot of stuff that we have to go through.

02:16:45.799 --> 02:16:50.000
Color scheme, Tmux, keyboard, AI, the projects

02:16:50.000 --> 02:16:54.559
that you're working on, applications. Yeah, a

02:16:54.559 --> 02:16:58.790
lot of stuff. So, yeah, let us know down in the

02:16:58.790 --> 02:17:01.069
comments if you like this type of video and if

02:17:01.069 --> 02:17:03.969
you want to see more. And we still have a lot

02:17:03.969 --> 02:17:07.549
of stuff to go through. So is there stuff that

02:17:07.549 --> 02:17:10.030
you want to share before we wrap it up, Destin?

02:17:10.530 --> 02:17:14.690
Oh, I think we've covered a lot of stuff and

02:17:14.690 --> 02:17:17.329
you're probably going to get a lot of hate in

02:17:17.329 --> 02:17:22.649
your comments, but just brace for impact. No,

02:17:22.729 --> 02:17:25.610
actually, you know, the people that. So up to

02:17:25.610 --> 02:17:29.049
my channel is pretty polite, pretty cool people.

02:17:29.489 --> 02:17:31.909
There's always that one crazy guy, you know,

02:17:31.930 --> 02:17:35.409
but that likes to troll, you know, but I just

02:17:35.409 --> 02:17:38.149
play with them because it helps the algorithm.

02:17:38.450 --> 02:17:41.209
The more trolls I get, you know, I take advantage

02:17:41.209 --> 02:17:43.329
of them. You know, if I get a troll, I'll just

02:17:43.329 --> 02:17:45.549
comment and I'll just ask him, why do you think

02:17:45.549 --> 02:17:48.370
that is? And, you know, I just keep playing and

02:17:48.370 --> 02:17:50.950
if they keep commenting, it's even better than

02:17:50.950 --> 02:17:53.350
me. I do the same thing in Reddit. Reddit is

02:17:53.350 --> 02:17:56.750
crazy, man. Neovem, man, I have got into fights.

02:17:57.190 --> 02:18:01.030
I just don't get upset. I just keep commenting

02:18:01.030 --> 02:18:03.750
and I just like for them to comment because it

02:18:03.750 --> 02:18:08.149
helps, you know? But most of the people that

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watch me are just, I don't know, they're pretty

02:18:10.829 --> 02:18:14.250
calm, pretty nice people. Yeah. And I mean, same

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here, but like some people, like when I make

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the UUtils video, for example, they're like,

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Thank you for making this video. You're the only

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one that's got the balls to say what has been

02:18:26.600 --> 02:18:29.399
on my mind. No one will actually say what you

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just said. And I'm like, that makes me feel good.

02:18:33.540 --> 02:18:38.639
Yeah, it does. A little bit. I'm almost 50 years

02:18:38.639 --> 02:18:42.879
old. I don't care. Shoot all the darts you want

02:18:42.879 --> 02:18:47.260
at me. I mean, it's not like you can kill me.

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Or maybe you can. And it's just the internet,

02:18:52.239 --> 02:18:54.719
right? Everyone, you know, can talk whatever

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they want on the internet. Why take them seriously?

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You know, if there's someone messing around,

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like, why? I don't know. But I don't take it

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personal. If someone jumps into the comments,

02:19:06.059 --> 02:19:10.620
it's like, okay. Yeah, yeah. The only thing,

02:19:10.620 --> 02:19:15.620
like, you know, sometimes they try to get really

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personal and I'm like, Uh, usually like, uh,

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I, I, I have some pretty good, uh, like I'll

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come back with a, like a zinger or something

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just to like, you know, like, and then they won't

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respond. Yeah. Maybe they're bots or something.

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I don't know. I don't know. It's good for the

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channel. Now we got Russian bots here. Wouldn't

02:19:42.360 --> 02:19:47.500
be surprised. Yeah. That's crazy. Alright, so

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I guess that's it for today. Thanks for your

02:19:54.440 --> 02:19:58.840
time. Really appreciate it. And I hope to see

02:19:58.840 --> 02:20:03.780
you next time. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I definitely

02:20:03.780 --> 02:20:06.840
want to see you again, too. I thoroughly enjoyed

02:20:06.840 --> 02:20:10.059
this. We had so much fun. Oh, and just before

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I leave, let me just put your channel here. Here

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it is, guys. There's still someone watching.

02:20:18.709 --> 02:20:23.030
Chasten talks about Linux mainly, Linux distros.

02:20:23.069 --> 02:20:26.809
That's what I see here everywhere. Linux and

02:20:26.809 --> 02:20:30.670
Neovim, right? So just go and subscribe if you're

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interested in this type of content. Yeah, and

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I'm going to start getting into more developer

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type stuff too very soon as well. Okay, wonderful.

02:20:41.489 --> 02:20:46.520
So anyway. Okay. All right, Chasten. Thank you

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so much. See you. Bye. Bye.