We're back. Yay! Hi, I'm Travis. And I'm Emma.
And this is Bestie Approved. Yay! We're back.
Yay! It's been a long time. What's the last song
you listened to? Oh, good question. We also have
a new guest with us today. It's baby Augie. He's
just sitting in his little... I don't know what
that thing's called. It's a swing. A swing. Yes,
he just prefers it turned off. Oh, okay. Yeah.
The last song Augie and I listened to was And
I Told Them I Invented Times New Roman by Dance
Cabin Dance. Okay. Just moving on. If you like
it, I love it. My last song was Too Much by Dove
Cameron. She's so pretty. She is very pretty.
And leave it to RuPaul's Drag Race to tell me
what songs I like now. Yeah, well, they've been
on the polls for some time. Oh, 100%. You had
a baby. I had a baby. How's that? Tell us everything.
So it was great. I don't need to tell my whole
birth story or anything, but he was eight full
pounds at three weeks early, which is huge. And
he's still huge. He's like he's wearing nine
month old clothes. That's a lot. He's three months.
Yeah, he's really big and he's really cute and
I love him. He was super chill as like a newborn
newborn and he's gotten tougher with age, which
is fine. Love him to death. But now he's sleeping
through the night. Yay. Which really helps. That's
exciting. I do feel delirious. Like I, even though
he's sleeping through the night, it's like. So
much work during the day and I'm just like focused
on this one baby all day that like every once
in a while I feel like I'm just losing my mind
a little bit. Like, do you ever get to take a
nap? Like, is that a thing that like you're able
to do? So like I could probably take a nap when
he napped if I really wanted to. But that's like
my only time to. do the laundry do the dishes
do all the things because when he's awake then
I feel so bad I'm like I'm supposed to be hanging
out with the baby so like how can I just leave
him to wash these dishes um it doesn't make sense
and I know that to be true but that's where we
are as long as we're on the same page yeah we'll
get there we'll get there it's been great it's
I yeah I'm just tired and he's so cute and healthy
and perfect so he's perfect I will tell you like
I you know I don't really like babies like I
don't like kids in general um he's pretty chill
to hang out with like he doesn't really bother
me so I'm happy he's here yeah I don't know he
like already outgrew his bassinet too like he's
already sleeping in his crib which is crazy They
say like six months before you move them, but
he's over the weight limit. Do you think he's
going to be super tall? I don't know. They say
sometimes people are just like big babies and
they end up averaging out. So I'm interested
to see if he ever does. I would. I would like
to see. I would like to see how he shakes out.
I think he's going to be great. Yeah, I would
think he would be big because he was like. Always
big while I was pregnant with him. Yeah, he was
always ahead of the curve. Yeah, and he still
is. He's like, he was putting on weight so fast.
I don't know. He's great. Yeah. Good job, Augie.
Thanks for being here with us. Do you have any
other, we don't have any pregnancy updates anymore.
No, yeah. Jack has been the best. I do feel bad.
Because like my attention is on the baby a lot.
But. I feel like that's something like every
mom has to struggle with when the dynamic changes
from what it always was. Especially when he can
feel it. You know. Yeah. I don't know. But like.
I think Jack is kind enough and like understanding
enough to realize like, oh, this is my little
brother. And like he may not understand like
the. Like what comes with that, but I think he
understands like the idea of it. Yeah, most of
the time he's chill about it. I think the hardest
part is like Augie's still so little. He can
only be up for like less than two hours at a
time. And so I feel like I'm constantly telling
Jack to be quiet so the baby can sleep like all
the time, which sucks. But that'll get better
with time, too. Yeah, I'm sure. He's doing great.
He's always, like, trying to run. I also had
the craziest fever infection situation, like,
a week after Augie was born. It was the worst
thing in the world. And Kenny had to, like, fully
take care of the house and baby for a week while
I was in bed, dying. It was the worst. Well,
you and I both had a little bit of a... Ailments.
Ailments. Are you okay over there? You coughing?
So. I was I was worried about you. Because you
like were sick in the bed, like sick, sick. Yeah,
I was like breaking out in sweats. My fever got
up to like one hundred and four or something.
It was crazy. Yeah, I don't know. They never
figured out really what was wrong with me. They
just like. tried an antibiotic to see um if it
would work and eventually it did so i don't know
good on them i guess yeah i was worried i was
going septic because i had just given birth so
i don't know it was a whole thing it really sucked
you know what all sucks kidney stones kidney
stones how did i know um i uh I'm glad that you
healed from your ailment and I ultimately ended
up healing for mine, but I was, this is, uh,
I guess like two or three weeks ago now, but
like I was laying in the bed one night and I
like woke up in the middle of the night and I
was like, I'm dehydrated. I need to go drink
some water. And like, cause my kidneys were like,
it felt like they were sore. And so I drink water
and then I. I'm not going to give all the horrific
details because most of it was pretty gross.
But like I pretty quickly knew that I needed
to go to the hospital immediately. So I went
to the hospital and they were like, oh, we need
to do surgery like now. So I ended up having
three surgeries in the course of three weeks
because the kidney stone was infected. And. they
told me that it wasn't anything I ate in the
diet it wasn't anything like it wasn't drinking
energy drinks it was it was fully like a genetic
predisposition to it because of the type of kidney
stone that like the build -up that it was and
I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy and like
I didn't know how that surgery went so like now
I realized all my worst fears oh Yeah. Yeah.
You didn't realize what they were doing. No.
Yeah. No. And they like came in to tell me about
it before the surgery. And I was like, do I have
the option just to like leave it to surprise?
Because I don't because they started telling
me and I was like, I don't want to know the rest.
It was horrific. Like, is it OK if I just die
instead? Well, I was like, what do people I mean?
they obviously they put you to sleep and it's
a fairly routine surgery the doctor said he had
like seven others to do that day and like i was
in and out and like inside of like 30 minutes
but i was like god and like for those who don't
know like they go in through your dick and like
they like basically put a tube up your urethra
to like get to the kidney stone to like get it
out like a straw basically um but I think about
like women how they go to the gynecologist what
once every six months and like they're just in
your cooch once a year and they're just in your
cooch like moving around I'm like have you ever
seen a speculum that's the like duck thing right
yeah I don't like that yeah do you understand
what's happening there kind of It's not that
it's painful necessarily, but yeah, it's cold
metal. Why do they leave it cold? Why can't they
like warm it up? Because modern medicine hates
women. It's true. That is true. Modern medicine,
the United States government. It's OK. Yeah.
I bought a 3D printer. Yeah. Yeah. Jack loves
his wand. I apologize. So for I don't for those
who don't know, my neurodivergence like gets
me into random things. And this is the thing
I think that has stuck the longest. I was at
Micro Center and they had a like an open box
deal on. 3d printer it was like 275 dollars for
what was normally like 600 and I was like why
not and so I buy it and I take it home and I
3d print it so like you the first thing you do
is print like a like a boat like to like because
it's a stress test with a 3d printer to see like
if it can like do um like overhangs and it can
do um like shapes and stuff without support and
I immediately knew I created a monster. I have
been just looking for shit to 3D print, like
just for random reasons. I found the wands from
Harry Potter. I 3D printed the Voldemort's wand
from Harry Potter for Jack. And he's going around
casting spells on August. I love that so much.
Yeah, to get him to stop crying. To get him to
stop crying. And I hope that's working because
that's a pretty powerful wand. I discovered this
system called Gridfinity, which is like a drawer
organizing system where like everything is a
grid and like the grid sits at the bottom of
the like the base of the drawer and like you
put like organizing things inside of the grid
to like and it's like the perfect size. I bought
a new set of drawers to do more Gridfinity. Yeah.
I'm. I have a problem. You're going to be so
organized. It's so sick. I love it so much. But
it's fine if there's and there's a there's a
couple of YouTubers that like all they do is
3D print content. And there's one that is so
stupid hot with his name, frankly, Bill. Frankly,
if you're listening, I frankly love you and come
on the pod. You're stupid hot. But yeah, I love
my 3D printer. It's like my new favorite thing.
I love that for you. My dad has always been like
a printer salesman, basically printers and scanners.
And so I got my first 3D printed thing like 15
years ago, probably. and it was like the craziest
thing ever because he like showed us how they
did it and now they're like so in fashion which
is crazy well they used to be um like industrial
like things right and it was like a big deal
that he brought home this like stormtrooper head
that they 3d printed i will also say the material
has come a long way because it used to feel like
a freaking rock so That's the other thing that
I have come to find is like there are so many.
I didn't realize there were so many different
kinds of like filament. Like so there's a bunch
of different use cases. But yeah, like you can
3D print with like foam and like silicone and
stuff. Now it's crazy. That's cool. I love it.
I'm so obsessed. Can you make like bendy things?
You can make whatever your little heart desires.
Wizards. Literally. so yeah i love that um so
we oh we have new podcast friends um yeah there's
uh like this is i'm this is a shameless plug
for these guys um there are these two guys i
don't know where they live i but they uh followed
us on tiktok and i followed them back and they
host a show called the first time in drag and
it's like the sweetest most pure thing ever it's
these two straight guys who or watching RuPaul's
Drag Race, I think one of them is watching it
for the first time ever and the other one has
watched it several times and he's getting his
friend into it. And it's the cutest thing to
watch because like they're it's like seeing it
for the first time. It's like it's kind of the
way I wish I could see like the Real Housewives
again, like seeing it for the first time through
someone's eyes. I think it's adorable. So everyone
should go listen to first time and drag because
it's great. So I have a lot of random stuff on
the list today. Did you see this TikTok of the
McDonald's CEO? Oh, yeah. He's trying, like,
what was he even eating? A burger of some kind.
It was, I guess, a burger that's, like, done
well globally, and now they're bringing it to
the United States. Because apparently, like,
we're the last people to get new McDonald's food.
Like, this is a thing where, like, they test
stuff in different markets. Oh, well, they have,
like, different stuff in different countries,
too. Right. So the McArch's or whatever the burger
is called. They're bringing that. Yeah, the Big
Arch. They're bringing that to, I guess, the
United States. And watching this man eat this,
like it was like he was being held hostage. You
know what it reminded me of? That episode of
Spongebob where Squidward tries to crabby pat
him. He's like. And. I was going to point out.
I saw this thing on Twitter, and now that I'm
on the TikTok, I'm noticing it again. They are
not calling these things burgers. They're calling
it product. Right. Yes. I feel like that's a
legal thing. Because I think it was Kenny who
told me, because you know he's crazy about food.
Uh -huh. There's something. I think it might
be fast food burgers or something like that,
where like... They'll never say the actual name
of the food because the FDA would classify it
as a pastry. Oh, no, no, no. It's it's bread
from Subway. Oh, that's what it is. Because in
the UK, there's so much sugar content. It's considered
cake. Yeah. Yes. I don't think I don't know.
I imagine it's because. he sees it all so clinically
and he doesn't see it as like food that people
enjoy. He sees it as a product. I truly believe
that. He's a business guy. P .S. He's a CEO of
McDonald's. Do you think he eats McDonald's?
No. I don't know. But watching him, it was like
he was being held at gunpoint. He was like, and
like. It was a weirdly like dingy break room
too. Weird, weird, weird, weird. And it was like
he had the tray with like the paper on it. And
like, it was so weird and uncomfortable. But
then he's like. wow, I don't even know how to
eat this burger. It was the most unappetizing
piece of food I've ever seen. Like I would literally
rather like go to like a concession stand at
a high school baseball game. Give me slightly
spicy cheese and some chips, please. I, yeah,
it's weird. And then, like, the one little bite
he took was, like, the Squidward bite. I'm going
to, like, put it, like, in the, like, on the
cover art. Like, that, like, he just took one
pickle early. It was just a wild sight to behold.
And it's crazy because I know we don't support
McDonald's because they support Israel. 100%.
I didn't know that. I haven't had McDonald's
and I don't remember how long. I was just going
to say, I love a snack wrap. This was not me
trying to attack McDonald's, but they kind of
attacked themselves with that weird ass video.
Do you know what I miss deeply? The last thing
I really remember enjoying from McDonald's was
this thing called the McSkillet Burrito. I feel
like I've talked about it on the podcast before.
I don't know about the podcast. I have not had
it since 2008 because I think that's when it
went away. But it was like this. It's the one
that had the potatoes, right? It had potatoes.
It had salsa. It had sausage and eggs. And like,
I think about it constantly. Yeah, that's how
I was with the snack wrap. But now she's back.
OK, I think we're good. You're good? We're back.
August joined us. He needed a bottle and he is
just here with us and he's doing great. He's
definitely 100 percent going to fall asleep.
I hope so and think so. I want to see if this
is like picking you up. Yeah. OK. Moving on from
the creepy McDonald's CEO. Yeah, that was. We
have yet another TikTok. We have like four TikToks
on here. So the first one, the next one is salting
your kids. And I'm just going to say this. I
think Kenny would be into this. I've seen that.
What does it mean? In one video. It's literally
those salt rooms that they were going to on Real
Housewives of Salt Lake City. It's literally
those inside your house, which is crazy. I think
it's supposed to like. clean the air or something
can I be so real with you I've been in a salt
room before I felt no discernible difference
in or out of the room before or after like I'm
if it works for some people I love it for you
I'm sure it's the same way like I feel about
like NAD shots and like the IV vitamin treatments
like I think those work for me and I really like
those I feel like everyone thinks I'm crazy when
I go do them and spend like $150 a pop on them,
whatever. Kenny likes them. I love them. The
NAD shots, I feel like I'm unstoppable afterwards.
I've never gotten one. I need one. I'm going
to be sick. Okay, so let me tell you about this
first. It's going to make you feel really, really
sick while you're getting it because what it
does, the way they explain it to me is it knows
where to go in your body. based on like what's
going on like where you're yeah like where you're
deficient in it and like for me it was like uh
I felt like lightheaded and I felt like I wanted
to like throw up a little bit and then as soon
as the IV comes out I felt like a new person
but you have to do like five treatments to like
get your like base levels up and then like you
do like once a month afterward i need to do that
oh i'll take you to do it restore hyper wellness
and caramel please sponsor us um but it's incredible
but the salt room thing i don't i don't understand
it it feels new agey it feels strange to me but
like the long and short of it was it was a mom
basically like i thought it was a zen garden
is what i thought at first like where she's like
raking the soul exactly yeah but it's a room
full of salt and like i look at that and like
my first thought is that is a fucking nightmare
around the rest of the house and for your kids
like kids are gross it's gonna get all sticky
or like if you have babies what if it gets pee
in it or pets no no and also like this is definitely
mom brand of me to say but little little kids
aren't supposed to ingest a lot of salt they
can like overdose on the sodium really quickly
so if you have little kids that are like going
in that room and then licking their hands like
i don't think this is the kind of salt you can
ingest though like it's like because i think
it's the stuff that comes directly from the ocean
that's not like treated the way like iodized
or whatever especially shouldn't be around kids
they're gonna get sick yeah like you know kids
are gross they will literally eat it kids are
hellbent on killing themselves you taught you
taught me that um and even if they don't straight
up eat it they like their hands are in their
mouths all the time right but so the whole long
and short of it is and i think it comes from
this place of like this new age health movement
of like we don't trust doctors and like uh a
boosted immune system is an immune system and
overdrive is what this creator said and like
part of me is like when I was a kid I was just
thrown to the wolves like and granted part of
that is some of some of that is like my childhood
like whatever like my parents were not ready
to be parents but like builds immunity to things
is by being exposed to things yeah like when
we were little kids like i remember one of the
like i think it was miles got chicken pox and
tina was like everyone get over here we're getting
it over with now like that used to be a thing
was chicken pox parties yeah because you're gonna
get it eventually you're gonna drag that out
and like you want it when you're a kid because
when you if you get it as an adult like it will
kill you yeah anyway um speaking of which have
you gotten your like uh preventative shingles
thing. I don't think you get that till you're
like 50. Oh, I don't know. I didn't get chicken
pox growing up because I think I was like one
of the first years they had an immunization for
it. Oh, Tina had the shingles and she was in
the bed. And I'm not exaggerating for two weeks,
just like in pain. Like she could like she couldn't
really, really bad. But like I and I guess it
comes from not having chicken pox when you're
a little kid or like not becoming fully immune
to it. You have to have chicken pox at some point
to get shingles. Something. I don't know if it's
like the virus like mutates over time and then
comes back to bite you or what it is. But the
two are connected. You have to have had chicken
pox to have shingles. OK. Yeah. Then maybe I
had it backwards because I don't like. I don't
know. But, like, I do know that Tina had the
shingles and literally could not move because
it was so painful. She said, like, it felt like
someone was, like, just, it was broken glass
on her skin. Ugh. And I hate that. That's horrible.
But, like, all that to say, I don't know that,
like, I think there's probably a lot to be said
for, like, Eastern medicine. And, like, there's
got to be a balance between, like, we'll throw
a pill at everything. Literally, like, meditating
your stuff away. Like, there's got to be some
happy medium there. Yeah. I don't know that a
salt room is the answer. I don't know. I feel
like, for me, it's harmless if you're an adult.
Sure. I kind of have a problem with you putting
your kids in there, but they're your kids. I'm
not going to judge your parenting or whatever.
God bless. I'm saying I wouldn't put my kids
in there. For nothing else. It's just they're
tracking. It's like sand in your carpet and like
on your hardwood floors and you're never getting
rid of it. I know that to be the truth. No, you're
not. And like, I don't know, kids, pets, whatever.
They're just like absolute liabilities. Yeah.
Even myself. What happens if you spill something
in that room? Does salt absorb stuff like sugar
does? I don't. I think to some extent, but like
it would be gross, right? It's like I imagine
it's like. Scooping a litter box. That's exactly
what I was thinking. Yeah. Like I just like I.
Yeah. Casey Rose Wilson from the Bitch Sesh podcast
turned me on to my other new obsession. I want
an Alaskan king bed so fucking bad. They're huge.
There are two California king beds next to each
other. Yeah. I want it. Yeah. Deeply and truly
and madly in love with it. Yeah. I don't blame
you. What I will say is. I have a regular king
bed, which I'm obsessed with. I'm never running
out of room. I love that bed. It also fills up
my entire room. So I would be worried to get
a new, a bigger bed than that. You, I think,
have to be, you have to live in a house like.
That is palatial, first of all, to like make
this work. But I also think you have to be the
kind of person that like is building your bedroom
around the bed or it's like you're the same kind
of person who builds like your living room around
the the cloud couch from Restoration Hardware.
Yeah, it's that same concept. I want one so bad,
but I know this baby will bark. Tanya almost
bought one and I am so mad she didn't. I think
like 10 grand or something. For the. the itty
bitty ones yeah they're like if you're gonna
get like one of the sectional ones you're at
a minimum you're spending twenty thousand dollars
worth every penny I think I think so too it's
just I have kids and they're gonna fuck it up
you know what I mean but I mean I have my restoration
artwork couch that I bought yeah when I like
when I moved into Solana and that thing is a
tank like you can't like i mean i had boomer
on that when he was a puppy and like he could
not destroy it like he i worry for the markers
era oh yeah i'm really worried about but and
to be fair boomer also like there was part of
the couch that like he scratched to hell and
back like because he was a puppy but like it
was that kind of it's fine well it's fine and
i couldn't be mad at him but like it's also that
like kind of distressed leather that like he
did it and i was like I don't hate the way that
looks. Cause I was like, I could be so mad at
you for ruining my $6 ,000 couch, but like you
made it better. It's his couch too. It is his
couch. It's his home. Ashley Tisdale. This happened
while you were on your maternity break. And I've
been desperate to get your thoughts about this.
So Ashley Tisdale wrote an article on her. blog
about toxic mom groups and the mom group that
she was a part of included Hillary Duff, Mandy
Moore, Meghan Trainor. And there was one other
mom that's like that's of that like group, but
she wrote an article about toxic mom groups and
how she felt like she had to remove herself from
the group. And I want to get your thoughts on
this as a mom. Yeah. I don't know. Did you read
the article? Yeah, but I just, here's the thing.
I'm not really in a mom group per se. There's
like a Facebook group that's more like, it ends
up being more like what's going on around Westfield,
what news you have. Like the tea is not personal.
No. Right. But then in real life. I'm I would
say I'm friends with like two or three of Jack's
friends moms and it's not like we're like hanging
out all the time we will go like get a hard cider
while the kids play and stuff but Tori is one
of them yeah and she's so cool like I she's not
she's not one of these podcasts hi Tori she's
one of these people that like I would not think
of as a toxic mom but like there are a couple
of people we know That I immediately put into
that category. I was going to get to the moms
that I'm close to. We would literally never have
this problem. Like, I don't think I think if
any of us had a problem with the other one, we
would just say that. Yeah. But also like what
problems are there to be had when all you're
doing is just letting your kids play together?
Well, so that's the thing that I kept asking
is. what was the problem and Ashley Tisdale said
like it was because she was like being purposefully
left out of like group chats and um yeah like
events and I don't know I I agree with you gives
like social paranoia yes you know you just feel
like you're being left out when in reality like
no one is getting around behind your back and
being like let's not invite Ashley like that
just doesn't seem realistic to me no that's weird
and like And here's the thing, like what, what
I will give Ashley Tisdale the benefit of the
doubt for is this is a universal human experience.
Like every single person on God's green earth,
man, woman, child, they gay, whatever. Yeah.
You have experienced feeling left out. Left out.
You've experienced feeling like someone didn't
like you and you've had the experience of like,
I don't like the way I feel. That is so heightened
to when you're a mom. Yes. It's really hard to
keep like an individual identity when all you're
focused on all day, every day is being a mom.
So I think it puts an added pressure on any of
these relationships with adults that you do have
because you're like, I need to show up. This
is like how I be my own person is like. with
this group of friends. And so you put so much
pressure on that, that I think she definitely
started to overthink something. Oh, see, I was
coming at it from the angle of like, I wonder
if she like thought it was about her kid. Like,
do you know? Cause it's like, like if it's like,
if I like, let's just say I put myself in your
shoes and like you take Jack to some event and
like Jack gets a little buck wild. Cause he's,
he can be crazy sometimes. And you find out that
the other moms did something without you, you're
immediately like, oh, is it because my kid, like,
was bouncing off the walls? Like, I don't, like,
I would come out swinging about that, 100%. I
do think that most adults understand that, though,
because, like, they have their own monsters,
too. Yes. You know? I will say, either way, if
nothing was happening, which seems... The more
likely scenario for me, they were leaving her
out because of her or they were leaving her out
because of her kid. Whatever the case is, and
it's probably somewhere in the middle. The real
life truth is probably somewhere in all of this
mess. I think what I didn't see her say was that
she doesn't want to be a part of something that
doesn't want her. There it is. That's what I,
that's what I needed from her to say. I needed
her to communicate that because that's the real
life truth. If that were to happen to me where
I felt like I was getting left out for whatever
reason, because of my kid, because of me, because
of whatever, I would be like, okay, great. Like,
I don't want to go anywhere that doesn't want
me. Right. I think the other thing too, is like,
just from like a quick, scan of this blog it
feels like and I'm not trying to be mean because
I think you and I are like in a similar -ish
place where it's like we're we've had a lot of
change over the last couple of years and I think
we're trying to figure out like what our new
identities look like like mine was like applying
to law school yours was like having two kids
like this whole thing that like we're experiencing
and like I think we're throwing a lot of things
at the wall I see a lot of that in Ashley Tisdale
where it's like It's you're you're doing the
lifestyle blog thing and like the posts are a
little bit like you're trying to find your identity.
And that's cool. And that's fine. You're seeing
what works. Exactly. Yeah. The the thing that
I'm struggling with, though, is. She's in like
an identity crisis, so she's in like a vulnerable
place. She starts feeling like her friends are
leaving her out. It's like I get to where she.
gets to, like, this emotional place. I think
anyone could understand that, but just because
it's, like, it's Ashley Tisdale and she's name
-dropping all of these names. But that's the
thing, she never name -dropped any of them. Oh,
where did you find the group? I thought I just
missed it. It was everyone else on God's Green
Earth telling who the group was. Oh, how did
they know? Well, Crystal Minkoff... from the
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills she was like
I was part of that mom group and um I didn't
see that was that in there it was in one of the
other articles and I I heard Crystal talk about
talk about it on their podcast and what I will
appreciate about Crystal is she was like listen
I'm gonna be honest I get both sides of it because
yeah what Hilary Duff's husband or I I think
they got married what Hilary Duff's husband did
was He made fun of the article and then he posted
another headline saying when you're the most
self -obsessed person, it's weird when people
look and just like focus on their own kids. So
I would imagine that the truth is somewhere in
the middle. But like looking at this group of
women, it's a pretty. So Hilary Duff is my age.
Ashley Tisdale is a little bit closer to your
age. I lie and say I'm 29, but like Emma and
I are seven years apart. Megan Trainor, I think,
is a couple of years younger than me. Mandy Moore
is in her 40s. So it feels like the group is
spread out enough to where I don't know if they
have kids that are all the same age. So in my
mind, I'm like, if they like if they did leave
you out, I believe it was entirely unintentional
because it's like, oh, like we're just putting
kids in the same age bracket together. That's
immediately where my mind went. I think what
was a wild choice was getting on the Internet
and talking about it because she knew exactly
what she was doing. I'm so sorry. She knew what
she was starting. Yeah, that is where I wanted
to leave. This is that she's actually Tisdale
and she knew 100 percent that this was going
to get likes and views and maybe put her on the
map again. Additionally, I'm sure that her super
high. like both net worth and like reputation
mom group out in LA has a lot more drama than
like my quiet suburb, small little mom group
does. However, I just can't imagine. I can't
imagine all the stuff she was saying was true.
What I'm. inclined to believe because crystal
talked about this is that when crystal went on
the real housewives of beverly hills she was
she felt like she was immediately cut out of
the group i would imagine it's one of these things
where it's like we don't want the public to be
part of our mom group and like when you are part
of the real housewives like you immediately become
that i assume like Ashley Tisdale, just from
what it looks like, wants to be a little more
in the public eye than she has been in the past
few years and that's kind of... If there was
any feeling like that, I have to assume that's
where it's coming from or from like the kids
age brackets or something. Yeah, because she
does feel on the young end compared to like Mandy
Moore. I don't know how old their kids are. But
anyway. Yeah. Yeah, that's like super weird.
That was a wild article. And that was like a
big deal for a couple of weeks. Like that took
TikTok by storm. Yeah. Okay. Love you, Ashley,
too. You're great. I liked you on The Suite Life,
Zach and Cody. Do you want to complain before
we get into Reality Roundup? Yeah. I just saw
what's on your list. Go for it, yeah. I would
like to complain about the monstrosity that is
Stevia and the fact that it is sold as if...
It is a direct substitute for sugar. That shit
is disgusting. Disgusting. It leaves almost like
a licorice -y flavor in my mouth. It's gross.
Kenny loves it. I'm convinced there's a gene
like the cilantro gene that makes you impervious
to stevia or hate it. I agree. Yeah. Oh, goodness.
It's a monstrosity. I made these snickerdoodles
for Kenny. Oh, God. It was disgusting. Rolled
in like the powdered seaweed. It tastes like
grass to me. It's so gross. I would love a zero
calorie sweetener that does not taste like absolute
bullshit. Do you not like Splenda? no it's the
same thing for me really a different taste than
Splenda is almost sweeter than sugar it is and
I don't like that I like I like the real Splenda
it can't be like generic Splenda because that
tastes gross to me like Splenda is the only one
I do like I am not a fan of Splenda I'm an extra
not fan of stevia. Whatever one comes in the
pink and the blue packs, I think those are disgusting.
Sweet and low. Isn't that what that is? I think
so. I think that's the pink one. And then whatever
the blue one is, it's disgusting. It's gross.
It's all gross. I would prefer a raw sugar. Oh,
like a rock sugar? Yes. Oh. I love... like a
natural sugar you know what else i love brown
sugar i love brown sugar brown sugar splenda
that's it my grandma used to give me a little
bowl of just brown sugar because if she didn't
i would sneak like handfuls of it because i loved
it i love that just like straight up brown sugar
do you know what what makes brown sugar brown
sugar molasses yeah that's crazy who the fuck
I have to be so real. I don't know who has any
of these ideas that like came to be like, I think,
you know how much I love steak, like how much
I love a really good steak. I want to know who
said to themselves, let's bludgeon this cow to
give Travis what he really loves, which is a
New York strip. Instinctive, right? Cause like
animals or an accident. Yeah. I mean the age
old, like how do we figure out we could drink
animal milk? yeah that that one i'll never really
get behind but that's okay but it's like i don't
know other animals do it like other animals eat
animals sure so like did we i don't know anyway
i don't know um i'm complaining about social
media apps that are constantly trying to push
you into new social media apps like I'm not downloading
lemonade I don't know what that is I've blocked
it on TikTok and I I guess it's the same parent
company as TikTok I'm not interested in it I
actually so I put this in but like Maybe I can
like forgive this one. Instagram to threads because
Instagram has become completely unusable. What
I don't appreciate are like those ads that are
like the first half. And you click on it and
it makes you download it. Yeah. Go to hell. I
will tell you, I created a threads account for
the podcast. I didn't realize I did it because
when I made our Instagram, like it immediately
made a threads account. Like that's a new thing.
I'm just not on threads and I... It's hard to
like commit to a new app. It really is. And yeah,
I don't like the baby posts. I don't like any
of that. I understand that you want me to use
your other apps for some reason. If it's that
great of a concept, add it to this app. Well,
that and like... I don't... I don't fully understand
like your... I don't know if you can advertise
on threads the way you're advertising on Instagram.
Like you're losing market share if you're pushing
people to threads. And like the same, I don't,
Lemonade, I don't know what it is and I don't
want to find out. I'm not interested. I keep
getting like these things that are like, oh,
Logan's on Lemonade. Everyone I follow on TikTok
is on Lemonade. I don't care. Good for them.
I hope they're getting paid. I don't know. Yeah.
So that's what I'm complaining about. I hate
it, too. I really do. Do you want to do a shorter
reality roundup today? Because I realized I started
watching this episode of The Real Housewives
of Salt Lake City last night, and I fell asleep
in the middle of it, and I took zero notes on
it. Yeah. Okay. We can talk about Lisa Barlow
and the traitors. Yes. Okay. Okay. You've seen
all of the traitors now, right? Yes, I've seen
every bit of it. We have to talk about this reunion.
I would like to. But first, I want to talk about
one. Mrs. Lisa Barlow liked our New Year's post.
Hi, Lisa Barlow. Hi, Lisa Barlow. If you're listening,
baby gorgeous. I love you. I'm really, really
happy when I when that notification popped up
on my Instagram. I lost my ever loving shit.
I told everyone that would listen. Lisa fucking
Barlow. Liked our Instagram. And I don't need
any. You can't tell me shit. We're celebrities
now. Thank you Lisa Barlow. We love you. We love
you Lisa Barlow. Also Lisa Barlow. Go on the
traders. I said the same thing. But can I be
honest. It would either be perfect. Or it would
be a disaster. And let me tell you why. Her at
the round table. I want you to imagine. It can
go. so so so well and it could be like this is
the lisa we love or it's gonna be her screaming
you're lying you're lying you're lying you're
lying like i i live for both sides of it okay
i would love to watch her accuse someone that's
not a traitor because i never back down so convincing
and even if she wasn't she would ride that wave
until one of them was out Secondly, I would love
to see her get falsely accused. That's what I'm
saying. I would love to watch that. She. Because
here's the thing. Say what you will about Lisa
Barlow. She's entertaining and like on the traders.
This is the only arena in which we have undeniable
proof whether or not someone is lying. I would
love to see Lisa Barlow. where she has like she
can go and say i was never tapped on the shoulder
and like she can say at the reunion and she's
like now what like i want that bad yeah i need
to see her on traders really bad but even if
she crashes out i love her i do too i just i
feel bad when it's like a season -long crash
out and it's like there there's no progress there's
no traction she doesn't get anywhere but i will
say and this is going off the rails a little
bit when And she I think what she does is like
puts up this exterior on the show and it gets
it gets it gets messy. It gets a little bit ugly.
But like she was talking about how even when
she was fighting with Angie Kay during the season,
like when they would ask her questions in. confessionals
about angie k she'd be like i'm not going there
that's my friend and i think she protects her
friendships and like this is why i keep coming
back to her and this is why i keep loving her
is because she is a safe space for if you've
ever had her heart she's always gonna love you
even if you're fighting and i think there's a
loyalty there that like i do think it's kind
of rare loyal person yes I would also love to
see her be a traitor. I think she would be a
great traitor. I think she'd be a great traitor.
I think she would be the best faithful that that
show has ever seen, though. I think more than
anything, she'd be an incredible faithful. 100%.
And she'd take it so seriously, too. Oh. She'd
be so serious. I feel like it would be two or
three months after the show was wrapped and she
would still have feelings about it. She'd still
find new clues. On the rewatch. Yes. She's like,
hold on. She's like reliving it with all of us.
Oh God. Lisa Barlow, please go on the traders.
Um, speaking of the traders, this was so good.
Start to finish. Not a single filler episode,
not a single second that I didn't love zero.
And I was worried. I was worried in the first
couple of episodes. I was like, wow, I fucking
hate Michael Rappaport. That's all I could think
about. I hate him too. I still hate him. All
I can think about is how much I hate this guy,
but then he leaves and then it's so good. Like
the whole rest of the season. Um, I didn't like
how they treated Ron. It made me feel really
bad for him. I felt weird about that. Cause like,
I didn't disagree with anything they were saying,
but I was like, you guys are being mean to him.
They're being mean. And he, I don't know. He's
a standup comedian, right? But I saw him on TikTok
saying, um, Oh, the whole internet watched the
traitors and the internet diagnosed me with autism.
So I went to the doctor and it's true. I am autistic.
And I was like, damn, like they wouldn't just
let this guy be himself this whole time. I don't
know. They were being mean to him. I didn't like
it. They were mean to him. I didn't like that.
I didn't like, um, I, I hated Michael Rapaport
though. I like, I, I can't get over that. He
was so hideous. I really thought when they announced,
the lineup. I thought he'd be the first to go.
Yeah, but I also thought maybe he was trying
to make a PR move and make more people who hate
him see that he's just a guy. No! He shows up
absolute monster. Monster, monster, monster from
start to finish. My God. The thing about him
is I don't know where he came from. I don't care,
but like He's made a name for himself. He let
us know. God, I also hate that thing of like,
I'm a New Yorker. I'm a New Yorker. Shut the
fuck up. I don't understand why it needs to be
the first and only thing we know about you. And
the most important thing about you. I'm a New
Yorker. I like to talk shit. I like to trash
talk people. We play ball. Like, it's weird.
It's weird. This Bronx thing that you're doing
is not real. And you can tell. You can tell that's
not really him. And he's like, I've been nothing
but myself this whole time. And I'm like, you
don't know who you are. I agree. I can see right
through this. This is not you. He's also made
a name for himself in the Bravo space of being
friends with some of the housewives. He's gone
on Watch What Happens Live a few times. I'm sure
he did say that, yeah. And I think he tries to
take on this persona of some of the housewives.
very gross like what he's doing is when he did
the the one that keeps coming back to me at the
reunion is the clip thing do you remember that
from Dorinda Medley and I was like I would have
gotten up and knocked him the fuck out. Like,
I'm so serious. He was being so disrespectful
that whole time. Like, as if they were still
in a game or something. And the way he was talking
to Portia Williams, I was like, you do not speak
that way to Portia. Let me explain one thing
and one thing only to you. I will defend Portia
Williams with my life. God, I love her. Speaking
of Portia, she should have stayed on way longer.
I was so sad to see her go. I feel like people
that didn't know her didn't even get to see,
like, her personality. I agree. And, like, the
other thing, too, is, like, I truly thought she
was the secret traitor. Like, when they were
about to vote her out. Because I was like, she
did say, when we murdered, when this happened.
I know. I was watching that, and I was like,
Of course y 'all. Cause I like, obviously we
know watching it that she like, well, we didn't
know. No, we didn't know that. Yeah. I was, I
could almost tell that she misspoke cause she
was just like talking really fast and almost
like talking as she was thinking. And I could
tell. And I was like, girl, why would you say
that? I, I agree. But like at the same time I
was like. when she was talking and like trying
to like backtrack it, I was like, Oh, she fucked
up. And like, that's why, like, that's why I
was shocked that it was Donna Kelsey. I was like,
I didn't see that coming from 10 million miles
away. I loved her on there. I think she was adorable.
And like, I think that there was something really
sweet about like her being starstruck about some
of the housewives. And like, I did love when
she was like, yeah, I got to like, I, I got to
kind of like redefine myself. Like I've been
Travis and Jason's mom forever. Now I get to
be Donna Kelsey. And that was so sweet to see.
And I think she's a mom that I really want good
stuff for. I hope she really knows how much every
single faction of America loves her. She should
be president. You know what? Why not? I don't
care what her policies are. Couldn't get worse
than what we have now. God. She surely isn't
going to send us into a war. I feel like she
would solve everything. She seems so calm. Down
to earth. Yeah. I'm going to say this, and I
know that I'm going to get backlash for this.
What? Colton Underwood and Rob Roush. Colton,
Colton, Colton. I hate that man so deeply. I
didn't know anything until about two weeks ago.
I knew. Okay. So when the lineup came out, I
knew he had been a bachelor and I knew there
was tea. I didn't really know what had been going
on. And then I saw people online talking about
him. So I went on a big old rabbit hole. And
boy, he is not a great guy. To which he says,
I was in a bad place in my life. I do feel like
it was a little bit of a cop out when he was
explaining it away. What I will buy is that's
true. Yeah. A hundred percent. He was in the
closet and he was like really having a tough
time mentally, obviously. And I get that you're
at a traders reunion, so you don't want to do
this whole big apology. I feel like, unfortunately,
the solution for someone like him is to not go
on a show like that. Or you fall on your sword
and you say everything is true. I fucked up so
bad. And like I. like you you have to like come
completely completely clean about it a hundred
percent and i feel like if you're gonna stay
in the public eye no matter how long ago it was
because that's another thing about me that bothers
him about me is what i was trying to say is that
he bothers you about him sorry yes God. I told
you I'm tired. No, you're okay. You're okay.
Another thing is that he seems to be like, well,
this was so long ago. I can't believe people
are still talking about it. If you want to stay
in the public eye after you do some bullshit
like that. It's going to be around forever, Diva.
You need to accept that. And every single time
you talk about it, you need to say you're sorry.
Yes. Every single time. I don't care how long
ago it was. I don't care. 50 years from now,
you still need to be saying you're sorry every
time. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Or get out of the
public eye. Like, I think those are your choices.
Yes. Because that was really fucked up. And I
don't know. It is what it is. However. They are
so beautiful. Him and Rob Rouse are so fucking
beautiful. Can't deny that face card. God, they're
so hot. You're a horrible man. And I'm with Lisa
Rinna on this. But your face. Is very symmetrical.
And Rob Roush, baby. Oh, God. Thrupple all day.
I loved him on Love Island. Love, love, loved
him on Love Island. And then he did my girl Leah
dirty. And I was like, I'll never look at Rob
again. And then he was on The Traitors. And he
did the same goddamn thing to Maura. I'm looking
at Rob again. He is so beautiful. This is how
he gets, this is how he does it. It's because,
like, he's hot. He catches snakes. And... Oh,
yeah. He's got something for everybody. Yeah.
Because he's like classically hot, but he also
like lives in the trailer in Alabama. But he's
also like on reality TV. Yeah. He's got something
for everybody. God. He's beautiful. I found out
yesterday he has a brother who is also beautiful.
Hot as the day is long. Yeah. Wow. And I. It
was an exciting finale, how he won. It was fun
to watch. Was it? Am I saying it's morally correct?
No. But did it have my jaw on the floor? Yes.
The finale, the way it shook out was wild. Because
I did not expect it to go the way it did. Yeah.
I also, I'm going to be so honest. I swear to
God, I thought Rob was going at the end to like.
throw in the red thing and be like try to get
more to vote him out or something i was like
he's good he's gonna throw it because he's like
gonna show the world he's a good guy i swear
to god like that's the narrative i made up in
my head and if you would have watched love island
you would know he's not that good of a guy at
the end of the day he is just a man and and that's
all he ever will be recognizes that i I felt
so bad for Maura at the end. Oh, I wanted to
die for her. But it is just a game. Like, it's
not like she's going to be upset about it forever.
Yeah. You know? And it's like, I also felt bad
for Eric because he was like, hey, what the fuck?
Oh, you could tell Eric was betrayed. Yeah. But
they just like, they just did a TikTok together
yesterday. Yeah. So like, I think they're fine.
But it was crazy to watch. It was. And like.
In the back of my mind, I'm like, it's just a
game. It's just a game. It's just a game. But,
like, you saw the way Mora was, like... She had
tears in her eyes. She was heartbroken. And she
had said so many times in, like, confessionals,
she's like, if it's Rob, I'm running out of the
castle. If it's Rob, like, put me on the cross.
Like, if it's Rob, I will not believe it. You
can tell she filmed one of those last confessionals
after the roundtable, that last roundtable, though,
because, like, you could tell, like, her heart
was not in it. Yeah, she seemed, like, depressed.
Like, she was mad to be there. Do you know who
I also ended up really liking? Tara Lipinski
and Johnny Weir. I loved them too. I'm so glad
you said that. I feel like as a little duo, they
were so cute. It reminded me so much of me and
you. Like just that like best friends like doing
the thing. I will say Johnny Weir's done it a
little overboard with the filler. Yeah. I don't
think he looks like. He doesn't look the way
he used to look. No, he doesn't. But I also don't
think he looks botched. No, no, no, no. It's
just, it's that. His face is very fixed. Yes.
And it's that, that thing that like, it's hard
to do filler on guys. And I think like you just,
when you keep going, like it's, it's a slippery
slope. You know what else put me off about his
face? And I think this has happened. This is
Johnny Weir is not even the worst case. I think
some people. get botox too close to when they're
going on a show yes and it looks unnatural yeah
because they can't move their eyebrows very well
and their skin is still really glassy which looks
beautiful but when they speak it's like and it
doesn't it doesn't help that he does a ton of
skincare and you can tell and like he's beautiful
by the way right and it's like but it's all highlighted
and like it's like there's a spotlight on it
i'm like very glowy yes But also, he can't make
facial expressions. Right. But I loved them together.
I thought, like, they were just so adorable.
I didn't know how sweet and cute Miss Tara Lipinski
was. I didn't either. I had no idea. I had no
idea. I love her. She was so nice the whole time.
And, like, I think I knew they were friends.
I didn't know they were, like, best good girlfriends.
And, like, I'm glad they were. But I didn't know
that they, like, um. There's something so endearing
about someone like Tara, who the whole time is
like, listen, I don't know what's going on. I've
been wrong so many times. Like, I don't know.
I'm bad at this game. There's something so endearing
about that, though. Especially when she makes
it to the end, because everyone just loves her
so much. They don't want to kill her or banish
her. Yeah. Like, I love that. I wish we saw more
of Dorinda. I was so happy they brought her back.
Oh, God. I do hope they follow suit and bring
Portia back to the next one. But I wish we saw,
we didn't hear like anything from Dorinda. All
season. Candace Dillard. I was waiting to talk
about her. I need a whole segment about Candace.
First of all, excellent choice of traitor. Excellent.
So smart. So good at everything. Loved her. Loved
her. Very diplomatic. Yeah. Love her. And I love
that she defended my girl Lisa after Rob betrayed
her. She knew that could get her out and she
said, I'm going to do it anyway. Loved her. However,
she showed up at that reunion and she thought
she was at a Potomac reunion. She started going
for everyone's necks as if the game wasn't over
and it wasn't just a game. She and Lisa both
did. Yeah. And it's... fascinating to talk about
you next well it's it's so funny to see these
personalities come together because you like
you can tell who was a very good housewife like
lisa reno was like i'm not dropping it also her
book by the way have you heard anything about
her book i've seen like ads for it on her tiktok
like they show up on my for you page i'm gonna
buy it and read it and it because it gets nasty
about like Sutton's track and like some of the
other women. I cannot wait. Yeah, I want to hear
all of it. Lisa, though. What were you going
to say about Lisa right now? I loved her this
season. I thought she ate it up. Aww. That fixed
it. You've been holding for a minute? You've
been. Or you can put him in his little... Come
here, big guy. Come here. Let's do this. You
can hang out with your chavis. Hello. Hello.
Hello. You good? Come here. Let's hang out for
a minute. Okay. I thought Lisa was also an excellent
trader. I think that she did such a good job.
I think she's not the best liar. No, she's a
bad liar. But she was so fun to watch. She was
fun to watch. And like something that like you
can see the progression from season one to now
is like how deeply they get into the fashion
of all of it. Yeah. And she did. Good at that.
She ate down. She was so excited to wear that
dress to the banquet. I don't even think that
was her best look. No. She was eating it up the
whole time. Oh, so good. And that picture of
her in the cage. Loved it. You're okay. What's
wrong? Yeah, I loved it. I loved it. Tom Sandoval
from last season. You remember him? Do you know?
He's like on the X Factor or something now with
his band. Like as a contestant. God. I thought
he would be too famous for a show like that.
I don't think he's too famous for anything. He
was on Vanderpump. I don't know. No, I think
that he is someone who will do anything he can
to get a little more publicity. Yeah. I want
to come back to the reunion for a minute, though.
Yeah. Yeah. I hate Michael Rappaport. I hate
him. I hate him. I hate him. I thought they might
not even invite him to the reunion. I truly thought
he wouldn't show up because it's like the backlash
that he got from America. Right. It was bad.
And like the way he was so comfortable speaking
to Portia and Candace the way he did. I didn't
like that. And you notice that he only did it
to the women. He didn't talk that way to other
men. The way he ate is a crime. That video of
him with the plate. Oh, my God. Why are you drinking
it like a cup? And I literally wrote this in
the notes. Who the fuck do you think you are?
He thinks he is so famous. I think he went on
there thinking everyone was going to know who
he was. Right. No one knows. This was your first
impression to so many people. And you fucked
it up. And you, you absolutely biffed it. I mean,
it is so bad. I also, this is a thing they've
tried on a couple of other housewives reunions.
I didn't love the like weird cutaways of like,
like a weird commercial they were doing in the
middle of it of like, oh, this, like the, the
award for this goes to like, it was strange to
me. Like it didn't feel natural. Yeah. I am hotter.
than when Rob picked Maura up, hotter than when
he meowed, is when he was at that round table
and he corrected Michael Rapaport on his use
of commiserate. Oh, that was good stuff. I said,
oh, hello. You read the dictionary one time.
Yeah. You're in the trailer reading the dictionary,
aren't you? watched so many videos of him in
this trailer and he just looks happy as a clam
and i want to visit it so bad i do too yeah yeah
um did you see the like the guy who does like
um the apartment tours usually in new york he
did a an episode with rob and he like came in
his overalls and everything i loved that oh so
cute what are you looking for No, this is this
was a good season of The Traitors. Like, yeah,
good, good, good, good, good. Start to finish.
Dare I say the first season with sexual tension?
I agree. Yeah, I agree. And like I said this
when we were first talking about it and I will
say it again. I didn't know. who everyone was
on the cast. I didn't know how they all fit together,
but I trust the producers at NBC Universal and
Peacock. And I, I was not wrong. They had a vision
and they ate down. I was excited about the cast.
Like even the people I didn't really know or
recognize the people that I did know, I was like,
Ooh, this is going to be good. They really. had
a vision this season loved it and the other thing
too alan cumming did an interview with uh in
style did you see this where he was like uh what
was the quote people need to make more of a connection
all the things you love about this show are queer
gay gay gay and spirit i did see this and i thought
i was like that's so true because this show is
camp like this show has no idea look at their
host hello alan cumming by the way ate down every
outfit this season He usually has a couple misses
for me. Not this season. No, not one. No, he
killed that. Or their wardrobe. I'm sure he has
some say in it. But, like, their wardrobe is
insane. You can tell, though, like, between season
one and season two where, like, they said, we're
just going to let him go buck wild. Yeah. Because,
like, it's slowly becoming a little war on him.
He can do no wrong in my eyes. He's so cunt.
Oh, my God. But. This is a good first episode
back. I had fun. I missed this. I'm also going
to tell you, I love doing the podcast. I don't
love it as much without you. I don't love not
doing the podcast because I'm just in here by
myself, losing my ever loving mind. And now I
have somewhere to put my thoughts. Yeah. And
I got to hold a baby during. The last few minutes
of the traders talk and he was really good. So
thanks a little. Just drooling everywhere. Just
drooling. It's OK. His saliva glands just turned
on or something. That's OK. Where is him going?
Where is him going? But I will tell you from
Indy to the traders castle to the highlands of
Scotland. Isn't that where the traders castle
is? Sorry. Okay. Love you, Scotland. We love
you. We'll see you later. Bye. Say bye, Augie.