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Yeah. Hi, I'm Travis. And I'm Taylor. And this

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is Bestie Approved. So this is a fun switch up

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because Taylor, my cousin, is coming on. Because

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Emma is seconds away from having baby August.

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And she's miserable. Yeah, the poor thing. The

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last episode we recorded, she's like, I don't

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know if I can do anymore until August is here.

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I'm so happy for her and I miss her. I love her

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so much. Um, but yeah, I, I'm, we're, we're excited

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to, to do a little, a few more collabs. I, uh,

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I had a couple of meetings with, actually we'll

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get into it before we do anything else. Um, what's

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the last song you listened to? I'm so happy you

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asked. First of all, I'm so excited to be asked

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that question on this podcast. Anyways, the last

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song that I listened to is called The Wall by

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Yana. I absolutely love that artist. I found

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her on TikTok. And she's been around for at least

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a couple of years, but I'm obsessed with her.

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And I'm currently learning the song in sign language

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because that's my current hyper fixation right

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now is sign language. I love that. It's something

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I'm trying really hard at, but it's really it's

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really fun to learn, but obviously very hard.

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So I love that. What was the last song you listened

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to? Love on the Dance Floor by Vince Palmieri.

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Palmer Palmieri. I don't know. It's something

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I also found on TikTok. And it's like one of

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those songs that was like, oh, pre save now because

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it. That has to be a new thing that artists are

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doing on TikTok, but it's a very good song. I'm

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very into it. You know, on TikTok right now,

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I think the genre is called house music. Is that

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what it is? Go on, tell me about house music

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of all people. Yeah, don't ask me a single thing

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about house music except for the fact that I

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think that you would love house music and house

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music is trending right now. You know what I

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mean? House music has been trending for 20 years.

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Right. Okay. I've loved house music for my entire

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life. Well, lucky for you, it is trending on

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TikTok right now. Thank God. And everybody's

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doing funny little TikToks of like one particular

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song. What's the song? I don't even know. I forget

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what it's called, but it's like... I know exactly

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what you're talking about. And thank God you

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do. Cause I wouldn't know the rest of a little

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bit closer to you. I'm listening. Sorry. So yeah,

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it's trending and I love that for you. Thank

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you. I love that for me too. Yeah. Um, so this

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is the first of several collabs. Taylor's going

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to be on, um, several times, but I've had a couple

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of meetings with podcast friends. Um, One is

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I had a meeting with her today. She's so cool.

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And like, I can't I'm gonna I'm gonna edit this

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later. But I one of them is a fellow housewife

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watcher. And we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna

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do a collab for the for one of the most iconic

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episodes of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake

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City. I'm very excited about that. Yes, I'm really

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excited. Incredible. Josh is going to be on several

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times. And for those of you who don't know, my

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cousin Taylor is Josh. And I'm doing husbands

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watching housewives for the real housewives of

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Beverly Hills for me. You can be on for that,

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too, if you want to. Maybe I've really been enjoying

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those episodes with those husbands. They're really

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funny and really like charismatic. And I'm really

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enjoying your guys's interaction with them. So

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I like them a lot. They're very fun. Like I wasn't

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so like I met with them. It was before I went

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to Dallas, like forever ago. I was a little bit

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nervous because I was like Emma and I are so

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Emma's not as bad about it but I'm very like

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I I know what I know about these housewives and

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like I've I've I've I'm obsessed with them and

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like I'm very I mean you know this better than

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anyone I'm very opinionated yeah and Scott and

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Jeff also are opinionated and they like some

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of the housewives that i don't believe have shined

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as brightly as they could but i i also think

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they're willing to listen which is what i really

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really like about them i think they're just they're

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fun people i really love doing the episodes with

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scott and jeff they're very fun good i like those

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episodes as well so you keep them coming That's

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the plan. Keep them coming for the people. Because,

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dear listeners, I don't know if you understand

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this, but I've literally listened to every single

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episode of this podcast. And I can say this genuinely

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and sincerely because I do love very specific

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podcasts. But I would not. listen to my own cousin's

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podcast if i didn't actually like it i've listened

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to every single episode and i enjoy every single

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episode and might i also take the mic for a second

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longer and please by all means and i will thank

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you and i knew i would without or with your permission

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um guys for like literally years travis has said

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whether it was just him or whether it was me

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and him he was going to be on a podcast or he

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was going to have a podcast and so I did want

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to steal the mic and say I am so proud of you

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and I love what you're doing and it's really

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fun getting to hear you outside of a phone call

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or outside of in person interacting with other

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people that you love and that you share like

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commonalities with. And it's very endearing.

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It's very special to me. So this also like me

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being here is very special because it's very

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much full circle. So I love you too. Thank you.

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I love you so much. That was. Thank you. Why

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was I nervous to say that? I don't know. I could,

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like, my chest was tight. No, go on, keep going.

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You can say whatever you want. Yeah, so that's

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just that. I love that. Thank you so much. That

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was very sweet. I'm also very proud of you. I

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think you know this. You know that I'm proud

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of you. I've been proud of you my whole life.

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You're a teacher, and, like, we're going to get

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into this, but, like, that's... the most thankless

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job on god's green earth and like you are so

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not good at good at it doesn't begin to explain

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it you are so passionate about it and like you're

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you care about the people you're teaching and

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you you put a lot of work in where I know every

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teacher puts in a lot of work, but like the the

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level of care that you put into that is so impressive

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to me. And I've just I'm very proud of you and

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I love you. And thank you, Josh. Thank you for

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being here today. This is going to be so cool.

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Thank me. Thank us. Thank everybody. Thank you.

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That is very sweet. I it's like you said, it

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is a thankless job. I am lucky that, you know,

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I have people that support me in. the profession

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itself not just like with my admin because that's

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very few and far between to have support from

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your own administrators and other people in your

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school but my mom loves what Bailey and I do

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Bailey's my sister and she's also a teacher on

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the opposite end of the spectrum she does like

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kindergarten first and I'm in high school always

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um but also you know like my boyfriend wants

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me to have everything in my classroom that I

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want and need and that's one thing about me I

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do not love spending money on my classroom so

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like I have so many people that do share the

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love and share their support with me in this

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endeavor which is very nice because that doesn't

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happen very often for everybody else no it doesn't

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and like I I've always or I guess we're just

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gonna jump right into the teaching thing because

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like this is something that I think people do

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need to hear whether or not they have kids I

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I've when Bailey it was she was going into her

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first year teaching and she like shared the uh

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the like wish list with uh with all of us of

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like oh this is like what I need for my classroom

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and I was like what are you talking about like

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I didn't realize and Em and I have talked about

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this before I didn't realize like you don't just

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get a budget to do that like you don't have like

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Like a corporate credit card from the district.

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Oh, I would do anything. The amount of money

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that I would be spending on things like air purifiers

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or air fresheners or tissue boxes. It's so desperately

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needed. Now, nothing like that happens where

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there's like a corporate credit card. That would

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be so lovely and so fun and special. Sometimes.

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um, either like in the middle of the year or

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at the end of the year before the school year

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even ends, sometimes you'll get some sort of

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budget, like $50 or $100. Or I think last year,

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my school in the middle of the school year was

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like, Hey, we're gifting like, you know, some

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other entity gives the school a certain amount

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of money where teachers can get like 50 to $150

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each. to spend on whatever they want for their

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classroom. So like, I use that money on a couple

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of posters for my room. I bought like a 1000

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pack of pre sharpened pencils, like wooden pencils

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in a huge box. Post -it notes, highlighters,

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because I make my kids highlight and annotate

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things all the time. And a lot of the times they

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don't. By their own. But like what you're saying

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out loud right now is wild to me that there's

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not just a closet that you can go to and like

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obtain these items from. Sometimes there is.

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A lot of times there's not. That's insane to

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me. Yeah. Like also part of that, I had to buy

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folders and notebooks and like loose leaf paper

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because there isn't enough supply in the school

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itself. And kids are constantly. ripping their

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folders don't have folders at all i just this

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week two kids asked for folders and thankfully

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i had them because i was given a budget at the

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end of last school year that i spent on like

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30 folders 30 just like cheapo i'm gonna go to

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meyer and just like buy you a ton of folders

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and stuff the kids need it well i don't know

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what to do with that and emma and i have talked

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about this where it's like the the discourse

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on tiktok before the beginning of the school

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year this year was I can't believe I have to

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buy school supplies for my kid. And I'm like,

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I don't know how we got to this place of like,

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I don't want to buy school supplies for my kid.

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Cause like, I mean, when you and I were growing

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up, it was a big deal to go to school supply

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shopping. And like, I don't remember. It was

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the best part of going back to school. Yeah.

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And just like. No, it was so incredibly fun.

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And I don't I also don't know where the expectation

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shifted from what we are used to to what people

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are used to now. But there's very much been a

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shift and it's embarrassing in a way now. And

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that's coming from a privileged place where like

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I know that if I had kids and they were going

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to school, I would be able to buy them school

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supplies. So there's that. But it's it doesn't

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seem like it's coming from a place of not being

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able to. It seems like it's coming from a place

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of this is. Someone else's job or like whatever

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the case may be. And I I have a hard time with

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that because I'm I'm just like, how did we get

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here? I don't know. I don't know. I was looking

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at a couple of the TikToks that you had put in

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our notes and I forget which one that I'm about

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to refer to. But someone was talking about the

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No Child Left Behind Act and everything really

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did go downhill when it. I am extremely passionate.

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Dear listener, think what you want about me,

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but keep the children accountable. Keep them

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held back if they deserve it. Keep keep them

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like hold them back a grade level if they don't

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meet those standards, don't meet those expectations.

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And if you don't feel that they are ready to

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move on to the next grade level, I think that

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it is done. so much damage for children to graduate

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high school without being able to read at a 12th

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grade level i mean my kids currently i thankfully

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i have two pre -ap classes so those kids are

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very smart very capable my english 10 kids are

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probably reading at a fifth grade reading level

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sixth grade reading level do you think that was

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covet or do you think that's like Do you think

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that's like the technology in the classrooms

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or like what do you think? How do you think we

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got here? I think it's a combination of a lot

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of things. I think that it is a combination of

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COVID and the technology that we have. I also

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think that this is kind of a generation where

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parents are way more hands off, way more. uninvested

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in their children's lives, whether that be because

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they don't have the energy due to like, maybe

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they're working, maybe there's something going

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on in their life, or some people and Bailey,

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my sister can also account to this, that some

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people just shouldn't be parents. Some people

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shouldn't have kids if they're not ready to take

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on that challenge, because It is a challenge,

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not just from a newborn to an 18 year old, but

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beyond that, too. So some parents are just not

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they're not present in their kids lives. And

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for a lot of my kids in the area that I'm in,

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some parents are on drugs. Some parents are dead.

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Some are just not. very good people, let alone

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parents. So it's hard for children to meet expectations

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when those expectations aren't modeled in other

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aspects of their life, like at home. That's hard.

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That's really hard. Yeah. But that's also despite

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all of that, despite all of those different factors,

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it is hard for a teacher or for an administrator.

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To keep up with all of the needs of a school

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when nobody else is willing to help. And so it's

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crazy when, you know, like a parent on TikTok

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that's wearing like full Lululemon and driving

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like a Range Rover is saying that I didn't know

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it was expected of me to buy my children crayons.

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What? This is a weird thing that I'm like, it's

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a weird trend that I'm noticing because it's

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like, I know growing up, like. I was conscious

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of the fact that like there were things that

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were expected that like our granny and papal

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just had to like write a check for sometimes

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or whatever. And like I knew that I knew this.

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So like were other people just like not as aware

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as like we were of these things growing up? Or

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like do you think that like something in society

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has shifted to like almost more of a selfish

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place? Or like I guess I don't know where that's

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coming from. students and their parents are inherently

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very selfish. And obviously there's a good side

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to that and a very bad side to it. So I think

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it's a lot of things. And I think that we also,

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I think there's a lot of factors in our family

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that we saw that things cost money. Are we able

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to access them? Are we able to not access them?

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All these things. I think that as children of

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divorce, That's just a thing because all of a

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sudden, if you are living in one single household

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with a parent that had a partner to help out

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with things up until a certain moment, that's

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one aspect. And then, of course, we did have

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Granny and Papa who blessed us in a million ways

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and was able to get us whatever we needed if

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our parents couldn't do it. So I think that.

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That's something. But the selfishness and the

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apathy in this time that we're in is really poisoning

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the learning environment and the educational

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landscape. It's crazy. I would like to devote

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like an entire episode to like just what it's

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like to be a teacher today, because I think that.

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I think there's a lot there. And like, I don't

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know how I ended up on teacher TikTok. But like,

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I feel like I'm constantly seeing teachers be

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like, you don't understand what it's like. It's

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like it is like they're going to war. And I.

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It's what it feels like sometimes. I can't imagine

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what it's like, because it's like, I don't want

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kids. I don't have kids. Like, my only interaction

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with kids is like some of our cousins, like in

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their kids or Emma and Jack. So I'm just like.

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I want nothing to do with it. Like, I want I

00:18:04.099 --> 00:18:08.960
don't know. But yeah. But yeah, well, I do want

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to dive into that. Like, and there's we have

00:18:10.380 --> 00:18:14.259
a lot of like of just stuff that like comes from

00:18:14.259 --> 00:18:18.839
like on a political level, like how much I hate

00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:21.740
Linda McMahon and like what's going on with the

00:18:21.740 --> 00:18:25.460
the Department of Education in the United States

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today. But we'll get into all that. Like we've.

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We've got time. We've got time. But I do want

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to, like, I want to let people know. I want to

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give people a picture of, like, what it was like

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growing up with the two of us. Yeah, for sure.

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The lore. The lore. So. Shivers down my spine.

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I have my favorite story on this list of, like,

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taking. Taking you to an establishment that I

00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:06.519
don't shop at anymore, but Target. And I hate

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us and Target. I do hate us and Target. But I

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want to talk about how you and I were. I don't

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remember why we were in the feminine care aisle,

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but like we were we were by the pharmacy at Target

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and you picked up a. What I can only describe

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as. a silicone cup and you said they have diva

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cups here yeah and I said what's a diva cup and

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there was another family in this aisle with us

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and you proceeded to explain to me what a diva

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cup was and that family was just entirely uncomfortable

00:19:41.789 --> 00:19:46.910
with that entire concept and I said well that's

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what a diva cup is and there you go what is your

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favorite story about growing up with me well

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I actually would love To discuss. So after my

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mother divorced, after my mother and father divorced,

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we lived in Shelbyville in a house. Yes. In a

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house in Shelbyville. In a house in Shelbyville.

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That's the first mistake, really. Yes, for sure.

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Travis Michael here would sometimes babysit me

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when my mom would go out with her friends or

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go out on a date or whatever. Now, there's. bits

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and pieces it all it's all flashes to me um my

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first i wouldn't call it sexual awakening because

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it wasn't that but my first experience with seeing

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sex on a screen was you forcing sex in the city

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onto me at the age of i could only imagine to

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be eight nine ten which you were like 10 and

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i was probably 14 or 15. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. And

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what a good time that was. I actually didn't

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hate it at all. I just didn't know what was going

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on. I don't think that I actually knew. I obviously

00:21:07.529 --> 00:21:09.650
did not know the premise of the show. I didn't

00:21:09.650 --> 00:21:11.490
know anything about it. But that was my first

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like on screen experience. And I have. I only

00:21:19.710 --> 00:21:22.569
remember this from my mom telling me this, where

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my mom wanted to go out with her friend, Brianne.

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Are you going to tell the story about the knockdown

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drag out fight? Probably. Go on. Okay, great.

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So my mom was going out with her friend, Brianne,

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just a night on the town with the girls. They

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were being girls together. And my mom explains

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this to me like today, as in. she was just one

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second she was having a good time I don't know

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where she was maybe broad ripple I don't know

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but then all of a sudden she just had a horrible

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gut feeling and she immediately just thought

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I have to go home I have to go home I don't even

00:22:00.930 --> 00:22:03.450
she told Brianne she's like I've got a horrible

00:22:03.450 --> 00:22:06.410
feeling right now I have to go home she goes

00:22:06.410 --> 00:22:10.869
home and she this is the funniest part because

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I genuinely don't remember it but I she said

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that she pulled into the driveway and she was

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looking out the window. She said, I remember

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this like it was yesterday. I'm looking out the

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window like longingly as if I'm just trapped

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in there or something. I'm like sitting at my

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desk against the window. And my mom was just

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worried sick about me. She opens the door and

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I think she sees your friend Lindsay absolutely

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canoodling the boots down with some other guy

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on the couch. Yes. And then you're in her bedroom.

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You're on my mother's bed, also canoodling the

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boots down. And she was, from her side of the

00:22:51.630 --> 00:22:55.529
story, mortified. She was like, and thank God

00:22:55.529 --> 00:22:58.309
I had that horrible gut feeling no wonder. So

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and thankfully, I actually don't remember this

00:23:00.809 --> 00:23:04.210
day at all. So I I'd say you managed it pretty

00:23:04.210 --> 00:23:07.329
well because I don't remember anybody being in

00:23:07.329 --> 00:23:09.250
that house. Yeah, because you were in bed. Taylor,

00:23:09.269 --> 00:23:11.250
you were in bed. Allegedly, I was at the window.

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You were dead asleep. I made sure you were asleep

00:23:13.849 --> 00:23:16.029
before we invited the guys over. I would imagine.

00:23:16.190 --> 00:23:18.670
I would imagine because I don't remember a thing

00:23:18.670 --> 00:23:20.829
about this. So my mom's probably making half

00:23:20.829 --> 00:23:25.289
of it up. I'm going to let her have her experience.

00:23:25.369 --> 00:23:27.509
I won't take her experience away from her. But

00:23:27.509 --> 00:23:31.250
when she does tell that story, she loves to make

00:23:31.250 --> 00:23:33.730
sure that I look as bad as I possibly can in

00:23:33.730 --> 00:23:35.990
that story. Like, she hasn't had guys over before.

00:23:36.349 --> 00:23:39.960
Right, of course. Anyway. So, yeah, it's things

00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:43.059
like that, like us, like you babysitting me.

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I loved when you had Lindsay around me because

00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:54.779
she was so hot. Biggest boobs in the whole world.

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Natural, too. Natural. And that was incredible

00:23:57.579 --> 00:24:02.859
to see as like a 10 year old. Yeah. So you just

00:24:02.859 --> 00:24:06.480
always had beautiful people around you. You wanted.

00:24:07.230 --> 00:24:10.029
me to be cool like I would wear my zip up jackets

00:24:10.029 --> 00:24:12.190
all the way up top and you'd like zip it back

00:24:12.190 --> 00:24:14.069
down halfway because that's how they did it at

00:24:14.069 --> 00:24:16.390
Hollister when you worked there like all these

00:24:16.390 --> 00:24:19.210
things it's just really fun I love that yeah

00:24:19.210 --> 00:24:26.789
um yeah I think my other favorite story from

00:24:26.789 --> 00:24:30.990
our childhood is dear listener you might know

00:24:30.990 --> 00:24:33.289
this about me I'll fly off the handle about anything

00:24:33.289 --> 00:24:39.680
um literally anything And Josh and I were at,

00:24:39.779 --> 00:24:42.059
it had to have been the target in Plainfield.

00:24:42.579 --> 00:24:45.819
And someone cut us off in the parking lot and

00:24:45.819 --> 00:24:49.039
almost hit us. And I decided I would not let

00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.480
that injustice stand. I rolled down the window.

00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:55.720
My window. Your window. Yes. I followed this

00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:59.039
woman through the parking lot and I let her know

00:24:59.039 --> 00:25:03.519
how badly she had messed up that day. Yeah. Now.

00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:09.049
Yeah. To be fair, she had cut you off in a way

00:25:09.049 --> 00:25:10.650
that like you're not supposed to drive that way

00:25:10.650 --> 00:25:12.710
in the parking lot. Like you were going down

00:25:12.710 --> 00:25:16.650
a lane of the parking lot and she was going horizontally

00:25:16.650 --> 00:25:22.450
at a stupid speed and genuinely cut you off.

00:25:22.490 --> 00:25:26.210
Like we were both frightened by it. But I need

00:25:26.210 --> 00:25:30.089
to let her know. Dear listener. One thing about

00:25:30.089 --> 00:25:32.450
Travis Michael is he's going to let you know.

00:25:32.789 --> 00:25:37.450
And especially during that time, I was so shy.

00:25:37.789 --> 00:25:42.109
I was so in my little cocoon. I'm not, you know,

00:25:42.109 --> 00:25:45.009
I can hold my own now for sure. But back then

00:25:45.009 --> 00:25:47.569
I was not confrontational. I didn't want to make

00:25:47.569 --> 00:25:51.490
any waves. So the fact that I am in the same

00:25:51.490 --> 00:25:55.299
car. With a tsunami that makes waves for sure.

00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:58.079
That's what really frightened me. I made waves

00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:01.779
for both of us, if you will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:08.299
So that is one that I look back on not fondly,

00:26:08.299 --> 00:26:12.779
but in the space that I am in now, I would also

00:26:12.779 --> 00:26:17.599
do the same. I see what you saw and you walked

00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:22.730
so I could run. And I appreciate that. I really

00:26:22.730 --> 00:26:26.509
laid the groundwork. Yeah. What else? What else

00:26:26.509 --> 00:26:27.990
is on it? What do you want to get into? We have

00:26:27.990 --> 00:26:33.690
a lot on our list, but I'm down for whatever.

00:26:33.809 --> 00:26:39.750
What's on your mind? If we want to get into some

00:26:39.750 --> 00:26:42.130
teacher things, we totally can. Let's do it.

00:26:42.750 --> 00:26:47.500
What should we start with? Anything in particular?

00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:49.960
Do you want to just like hear me complain about

00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:52.259
what's up with these days? Actually, you know

00:26:52.259 --> 00:26:54.099
what? Let's do complaining. Complain about what's

00:26:54.099 --> 00:26:56.079
going on these days. And then before you get

00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:58.380
into complaining, have you watched any of The

00:26:58.380 --> 00:27:00.880
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City? No. Okay.

00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:03.680
And I know that that's pretty blasphemous for

00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:08.900
me to say on this podcast. It's okay. We can...

00:27:08.900 --> 00:27:15.250
We can do... You know what? Let's just get it.

00:27:15.250 --> 00:27:16.849
Let's let's get into teacher things today and

00:27:16.849 --> 00:27:19.910
then we'll do a reality roundup next week. Sure.

00:27:20.069 --> 00:27:24.369
OK. OK. Beautiful. Anyway, if you want to hear

00:27:24.369 --> 00:27:26.029
just like some random things that I'm dealing

00:27:26.029 --> 00:27:28.349
with just this week and then we can get into

00:27:28.349 --> 00:27:33.150
specifics if we want. This week, something that

00:27:33.150 --> 00:27:36.470
really annoys me. I said it in our notes, like

00:27:36.470 --> 00:27:39.750
some kids will just literally say anything. And

00:27:39.750 --> 00:27:45.430
it's like. What gives you the gall? and the right

00:27:45.430 --> 00:27:47.890
to just sound like the world's biggest idiot.

00:27:48.150 --> 00:27:51.390
Like it's really hard as a professional in a

00:27:51.390 --> 00:27:53.829
classroom setting to handle that professionally.

00:27:53.990 --> 00:27:57.369
Like for instance, on Monday, we had an e -learning

00:27:57.369 --> 00:28:00.809
day. Sometimes e -learning is very much scheduled

00:28:00.809 --> 00:28:03.829
out. There's usually at least one e -learning

00:28:03.829 --> 00:28:07.309
day per quarter and that's synchronous work.

00:28:07.549 --> 00:28:11.049
You have to have like 25 minutes per period on

00:28:11.049 --> 00:28:15.079
like a live, basically a Zoom. So 99 % of the

00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.519
time, the kids do not interact during that time.

00:28:18.640 --> 00:28:21.220
The cameras are off. They're muted. I'm just

00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:23.059
spewing whatever I want to spew. And then I give

00:28:23.059 --> 00:28:24.720
them something to do just to say that we did

00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:29.039
it. For my E10 kids, my English 10 kids, all

00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:32.299
they had to do was listen to me yap about chapter

00:28:32.299 --> 00:28:36.500
two of Of Mice and Men. And then they had to

00:28:36.500 --> 00:28:40.579
take a quiz, a chapter two quiz. It took probably

00:28:40.579 --> 00:28:44.279
15, 20 minutes total. And I even let them off

00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.359
early. Like, you're welcome. It's a gift from

00:28:46.359 --> 00:28:49.579
me to you. And then the next day, one of my students

00:28:49.579 --> 00:28:55.359
who has been a menace since day one or whatever,

00:28:55.539 --> 00:28:58.420
he comes up to me and he goes, Miss Ramseyer,

00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.740
Miss Ramseyer, what did we do yesterday? And

00:29:01.740 --> 00:29:04.799
I'm like. Why are you asking me? I took attendance.

00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:07.779
You were there the entire time on the Zoom. What

00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:10.359
do you mean? What did we do? He's like, well,

00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:12.460
obviously I wasn't listening. I was playing Fortnite

00:29:12.460 --> 00:29:16.220
the whole time. Why would you do that? Why would

00:29:16.220 --> 00:29:18.920
you do that? And also, why would you say that?

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.799
Do you think they think it's like a cutesy little

00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.160
thing? Yeah. It's so annoying. And guess what

00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:28.099
it is? What? Ugly. It's ugly. It's ugly and I

00:29:28.099 --> 00:29:32.430
hate it. And in very... In much more professional

00:29:32.430 --> 00:29:35.650
terms, I said, get the fuck out of my face and

00:29:35.650 --> 00:29:37.829
leave my room. Like, you're not even in this

00:29:37.829 --> 00:29:41.170
period. And don't come at me saying this. Obviously,

00:29:41.210 --> 00:29:43.970
I didn't say that. But I basically said, you

00:29:43.970 --> 00:29:50.670
know good and well to not sound this way to me.

00:29:51.049 --> 00:29:53.769
You know what's on my Canvas page. You can go

00:29:53.769 --> 00:29:55.529
check it out yourself if you didn't want to listen

00:29:55.529 --> 00:29:58.119
yesterday. Goodbye. And then why are they being

00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:00.319
a little demon monster, though? Like, I don't

00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.960
I don't get it annoying because that's like what

00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.500
it is. Like some of them think that it's funny.

00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.299
And I'm like, do I look like I'm laughing? Do

00:30:09.299 --> 00:30:12.339
I look like I think you're cute and funny? No.

00:30:13.740 --> 00:30:16.160
It's literally embarrassing these days. Like

00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:19.880
the the things that kids will say, like I had

00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:23.880
to get a kid kicked out of my class on the last

00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:27.700
day of the first quarter because. My mistake,

00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:30.339
I had to talk to a kid privately out in the hallway

00:30:30.339 --> 00:30:33.319
for one minute. And in that minute, that kid

00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:35.539
was running around my room acting a menace and

00:30:35.539 --> 00:30:39.400
said crazy wild things. So I've had to get kids

00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:43.240
kicked out for just saying this, just the most

00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.859
foul, horrific, disgusting things. Because like,

00:30:46.859 --> 00:30:49.460
what are you doing being 14, 15 years old and

00:30:49.460 --> 00:30:53.599
saying that in front of 25 other kids? You're

00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.450
embarrassing. I hate that. Isn't it ugly? It

00:30:57.450 --> 00:31:00.230
is ugly. And, like, this is something where I

00:31:00.230 --> 00:31:04.029
think that, like, I don't know if parents aren't

00:31:04.029 --> 00:31:06.650
holding kids accountable anymore or, like, because,

00:31:06.750 --> 00:31:11.430
like, I know that there were certain things I

00:31:11.430 --> 00:31:12.890
could get away with saying when I was growing

00:31:12.890 --> 00:31:14.650
up, but there were other things where, like,

00:31:14.670 --> 00:31:16.509
I would have been beaten within an inch of my

00:31:16.509 --> 00:31:21.789
life. Uh -huh. And. For sure. I don't know where

00:31:21.789 --> 00:31:25.359
that's gone. Well, here's what it is. Half of

00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.759
it is parents are holding their kids accountable

00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:33.200
and the kids genuinely don't care. And then the

00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.319
other half of it is the parents are not holding

00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:38.480
the kids accountable. And so they're not getting

00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:40.599
any consequences. They think that they can do

00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:44.480
anything and not be touched. The kids that are

00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.160
being held accountable at home, they are being

00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:50.000
held accountable. But 99 % of the time, those

00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.779
kids are so apathetic that. They don't care if

00:31:53.779 --> 00:31:56.200
things get taken away. They don't care if they

00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:58.460
get in trouble. They don't care if they get their

00:31:58.460 --> 00:32:01.680
door taken off its hinges. They don't care. They

00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:04.740
literally don't care about consequences or how

00:32:04.740 --> 00:32:07.880
they make other people feel. Because, I mean,

00:32:07.900 --> 00:32:11.819
imagine the 25 other kids in that room, like

00:32:11.819 --> 00:32:14.640
hearing such uncomfortable words coming from

00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:18.039
a 15 year old. That kid doesn't care. He likes

00:32:18.039 --> 00:32:21.289
to make people uncomfortable. And it's. Very

00:32:21.289 --> 00:32:25.029
scary. That's very weird. It's very weird, very

00:32:25.029 --> 00:32:28.589
gross and very scary because that kid is probably

00:32:28.589 --> 00:32:31.549
going to turn into an adult that is just as bad.

00:32:32.430 --> 00:32:35.089
I do have a theory about this where like I do

00:32:35.089 --> 00:32:40.329
wonder if. Like because I don't think kids get

00:32:40.329 --> 00:32:42.509
enough credit for like how smart and like how

00:32:42.509 --> 00:32:45.970
observant they are sometimes. Yeah. And like

00:32:45.970 --> 00:32:50.480
I wonder if there is some level of like. Well,

00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.140
a literal felon can find his way into the White

00:32:53.140 --> 00:32:56.980
House. So like, why can't I like, why can't I

00:32:56.980 --> 00:33:01.579
do that? Like so. And especially being a teacher

00:33:01.579 --> 00:33:07.000
during both of those elections. A lot of kids

00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.380
did have that mindset of like, I can truly get

00:33:10.380 --> 00:33:13.579
away with anything and it doesn't matter. I hate

00:33:13.579 --> 00:33:18.180
that. Anyway, what else? What else about being

00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:27.529
a teacher? Um, I'm really, I mean, old news,

00:33:27.589 --> 00:33:29.289
like literally every teacher on the planet is

00:33:29.289 --> 00:33:31.710
saying this. I'm really tired. I'm really tired

00:33:31.710 --> 00:33:36.589
and burnt out. Yeah. And I think that now I've

00:33:36.589 --> 00:33:38.210
been a teacher for six years. This is my sixth

00:33:38.210 --> 00:33:41.009
year. And I've really laid my own groundwork

00:33:41.009 --> 00:33:45.630
to make my job as easy as it can be. But it's

00:33:45.630 --> 00:33:48.069
the other aspects of it that are harder. Like

00:33:48.069 --> 00:33:51.349
lesson planning isn't very hard for me. I I'm

00:33:51.349 --> 00:33:56.069
lucky enough to where I teach generally the same

00:33:56.069 --> 00:33:59.250
grade levels every year. And I know what my sweet

00:33:59.250 --> 00:34:03.349
spot is in particular. Like I love teaching freshmen

00:34:03.349 --> 00:34:05.630
and sophomores. And thankfully, nobody else does.

00:34:05.829 --> 00:34:08.030
Everybody hates freshmen and sophomores. You've

00:34:08.030 --> 00:34:09.929
always been the person that like takes on the

00:34:09.929 --> 00:34:12.659
roles that everyone else like. either hates or

00:34:12.659 --> 00:34:15.579
like doesn't want to do isn't that sad kind of

00:34:15.579 --> 00:34:17.619
like but you've also like you're very good at

00:34:17.619 --> 00:34:20.579
that though i feel like yeah um i think that

00:34:20.579 --> 00:34:26.000
i'm still young enough to where they are very

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:29.900
comfortable with me um i'm gonna be 28 in december

00:34:29.900 --> 00:34:32.519
but that's so weird because i'm gonna be 29 in

00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:36.449
april Isn't that so funny? Isn't that so funny

00:34:36.449 --> 00:34:39.530
how that works? Age is just a number. Somehow

00:34:39.530 --> 00:34:41.909
I was four years older than you when we were

00:34:41.909 --> 00:34:44.269
kids. Yeah, it's so funny. It's like someone's

00:34:44.269 --> 00:34:47.210
math is off. Is the math in the room with us?

00:34:47.210 --> 00:34:51.630
I don't know. I don't know. Anyway. But when

00:34:51.630 --> 00:34:55.829
I, like my first year teaching, I was freshly

00:34:55.829 --> 00:34:59.210
22, basically. And I was teaching juniors and

00:34:59.210 --> 00:35:04.420
they're 17. And so that was a very not. incredible

00:35:04.420 --> 00:35:06.900
dynamic especially being a brand new teacher

00:35:06.900 --> 00:35:09.960
also in the middle of covid like my first year

00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:16.360
of teaching was um 2020 so oh yeah it was wasn't

00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:20.440
it yeah it was right because i graduated i had

00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:22.880
to graduate at home i didn't have like a graduation

00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:25.420
or anything like that school for me basically

00:35:25.420 --> 00:35:29.619
stopped in march and i was able to do a little

00:35:29.619 --> 00:35:31.960
bit of things for maybe about a month on zoom

00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:34.449
with like the school that I was student teaching

00:35:34.449 --> 00:35:37.409
at. And then the president of Ball State was

00:35:37.409 --> 00:35:41.690
like, hey, you can just stop early. We'll send

00:35:41.690 --> 00:35:44.130
you your diploma in June or something like that.

00:35:44.489 --> 00:35:47.269
And then I was a teacher for that school year

00:35:47.269 --> 00:35:51.309
starting in August of 2020. So that was really

00:35:51.309 --> 00:35:55.150
hard. That was a weird age dynamic teaching juniors

00:35:55.150 --> 00:35:57.610
as a 22 year old, especially with. covid and

00:35:57.610 --> 00:35:59.570
all that stuff and just being a first year teacher

00:35:59.570 --> 00:36:02.469
but i'm in a really comfortable place now where

00:36:02.469 --> 00:36:06.369
i can be fun and goofy with my kids while also

00:36:06.369 --> 00:36:11.030
really setting solid expectations and expecting

00:36:11.030 --> 00:36:13.769
them to meet them and at this point they're 15

00:36:13.769 --> 00:36:19.929
16 years old and so I always say that my job

00:36:19.929 --> 00:36:23.690
is very different and a lot easier than my sister's

00:36:23.690 --> 00:36:25.829
job because she does kindergarten and first grade.

00:36:26.090 --> 00:36:29.909
She has to not only teach the expectations, but

00:36:29.909 --> 00:36:32.369
teach them how to meet the expectations. And

00:36:32.369 --> 00:36:34.010
that's not something I really have a patience

00:36:34.010 --> 00:36:38.530
for. Whereas right now, like with me. teaching

00:36:38.530 --> 00:36:41.809
15 and 16 year olds, I'll set the expectations,

00:36:41.909 --> 00:36:45.030
I expect them to meet them. And if they're being

00:36:45.030 --> 00:36:47.369
out of their minds, crazy, weird and annoying,

00:36:47.530 --> 00:36:50.650
then I get to be like, you're being crazy, weird

00:36:50.650 --> 00:36:53.550
and annoying. And that's not the kind of learning

00:36:53.550 --> 00:36:56.730
environment I'm trying to cultivate here. So

00:36:56.730 --> 00:36:59.070
you can go to the office if you're not gonna

00:36:59.070 --> 00:37:04.219
chill out. Do you feel like that? Like that's

00:37:04.219 --> 00:37:06.760
more helpful than like pulling them aside because

00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:08.619
it's not like public shaming. It's just being

00:37:08.619 --> 00:37:14.079
like, hey, what are you doing? Now, I do my very,

00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:18.960
very best to squash the problem with the child

00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.840
individually. I don't ever mean to embarrass.

00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:25.179
I don't ever mean to shame, for lack of a better

00:37:25.179 --> 00:37:29.869
word. There's also a point where if I've tried

00:37:29.869 --> 00:37:33.090
my very best to meet a person where it's at and

00:37:33.090 --> 00:37:35.530
they're not going to work with me and they want

00:37:35.530 --> 00:37:38.949
to continue to be a menace to me and 25 other

00:37:38.949 --> 00:37:42.230
kids in the room, then if they want to be embarrassing

00:37:42.230 --> 00:37:43.690
in front of the whole class, I'll embarrass them

00:37:43.690 --> 00:37:46.170
in front of the whole class. I think that's fine.

00:37:46.429 --> 00:37:50.309
Yeah. I mean, it's genuinely only when it gets

00:37:50.309 --> 00:37:52.409
to the point where it's a distraction to myself

00:37:52.409 --> 00:37:57.440
and others. Yeah. Because I. Very much. I'm very

00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.699
passionate about the space that I'm in, like

00:38:00.699 --> 00:38:03.519
my classroom specifically. I love my classroom.

00:38:03.659 --> 00:38:06.699
I try to make it a place where I want to be in.

00:38:06.780 --> 00:38:11.599
I make it cute. I make it nice looking. And I

00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:14.780
also want to make sure that I have a safe environment

00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:18.639
for students to learn, grow, make mistakes, have

00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:23.599
fun and do something good in their lives. If

00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.300
somebody is messing that up for me, I don't want

00:38:25.300 --> 00:38:28.119
you in my room. I don't want that. And you're

00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.599
going to make other people in my classroom uncomfortable

00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:34.500
to your peers. That's weird. Like you're doing

00:38:34.500 --> 00:38:38.519
way too much. And if I've told them in five,

00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:41.940
six other ways that you are doing too much and

00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:43.940
you cannot be in here, if you're going to continue

00:38:43.940 --> 00:38:46.099
to act this way, then guess what? If you're going

00:38:46.099 --> 00:38:48.300
to continue to do it, I'm going to say in front

00:38:48.300 --> 00:38:52.110
of your 25 other peers. You are doing way too

00:38:52.110 --> 00:38:54.349
much. Get out. I'm going to call the administrator

00:38:54.349 --> 00:38:57.750
and let them know you're on your way. I had to

00:38:57.750 --> 00:39:01.289
do that multiple times this year, which honestly

00:39:01.289 --> 00:39:05.750
is better than past experiences. I love that.

00:39:05.969 --> 00:39:11.429
Yeah. We've got a lot on the teacher list, but

00:39:11.429 --> 00:39:14.110
one thing I do want to get into is AI and academia.

00:39:17.590 --> 00:39:23.280
Yeah, for sure. Emma and I have talked a lot

00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:26.900
about artificial intelligence and large language

00:39:26.900 --> 00:39:31.659
models on this podcast because I'm in a weird

00:39:31.659 --> 00:39:34.760
middle space where, like, I, like, I think a

00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.780
lot of you remember our Uncle Roy. I think about

00:39:37.780 --> 00:39:40.980
Roy a lot who, like. If you would have introduced

00:39:40.980 --> 00:39:43.480
him to chat GPT, that would have become his best

00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:45.820
friend. Like, yeah, I don't know if you remember

00:39:45.820 --> 00:39:48.380
him in this way, but like he had to have the

00:39:48.380 --> 00:39:50.820
newest of everything. And he loved technology.

00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:54.460
He loved, loved computers, loved like he was

00:39:54.460 --> 00:39:56.320
the first person. I mean, like I remember when

00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:58.179
dial up Internet was first becoming a thing,

00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:02.480
even though I'm not that old. I don't remember

00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.440
dial up, but like I remember when he like first.

00:40:06.739 --> 00:40:09.719
Got a hold of like that America Online CD that

00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:13.300
they would send you in the mail. And you couldn't

00:40:13.300 --> 00:40:16.400
tell him that he was not like you couldn't tell

00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:18.639
him he wasn't Steve Jobs. And then like he got

00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.079
he had the first iPhone. He had the first like

00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.800
I remember the first iPod. He had all of it.

00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:27.860
So I think like I took a little bit of that from

00:40:27.860 --> 00:40:30.420
him because Papo's kind of been similar in that

00:40:30.420 --> 00:40:32.619
we're like he has always been very encouraging

00:40:32.619 --> 00:40:35.909
of us like learning. about technology right yeah

00:40:35.909 --> 00:40:40.750
so I think about AI and I'm like oh the the the

00:40:40.750 --> 00:40:43.349
possibilities are limitless right where it's

00:40:43.349 --> 00:40:45.949
like there there are there are real applications

00:40:45.949 --> 00:40:48.070
to like teaching there are real applications

00:40:48.070 --> 00:40:53.590
to problem solving but like when it becomes a

00:40:53.590 --> 00:40:56.369
crutch that's where I've started to like I've

00:40:56.369 --> 00:40:57.989
started to open my eyes a little bit where Emma

00:40:57.989 --> 00:40:59.570
from the beginning has been like I don't like

00:40:59.570 --> 00:41:02.309
it I want nothing to do with it I hate it and

00:41:02.309 --> 00:41:06.989
I support her in that But like I've in this podcast,

00:41:07.170 --> 00:41:10.010
I've like stopped using AI to like write the

00:41:10.010 --> 00:41:11.969
show notes like I do that all myself now. And

00:41:11.969 --> 00:41:16.630
I think that because I think when you start using

00:41:16.630 --> 00:41:20.550
it in place of creativity, that's where your

00:41:20.550 --> 00:41:23.369
mind starts to like just get really lazy. Absolutely.

00:41:24.250 --> 00:41:29.230
But I I don't I don't know what it's like for

00:41:29.230 --> 00:41:33.230
kids now who. They've just had chat GPT for the

00:41:33.230 --> 00:41:36.750
last three years. I'm like, how does that look

00:41:36.750 --> 00:41:38.869
for them? What does that look like? Oh, let me

00:41:38.869 --> 00:41:43.570
tell you what it looks like. It's from the teacher's

00:41:43.570 --> 00:41:47.269
perspective. It is nothing short of a boldface

00:41:47.269 --> 00:41:50.750
nightmare because it's like what you said. There's

00:41:50.750 --> 00:41:53.710
there's no creativity. There's no critical thinking.

00:41:53.869 --> 00:41:56.969
There's no practical problem solving when students

00:41:56.969 --> 00:42:00.380
are truly and sincerely using this. any way that

00:42:00.380 --> 00:42:05.179
they can in the school setting. And at my school,

00:42:05.219 --> 00:42:07.780
we have like school issued Chromebooks. So each

00:42:07.780 --> 00:42:11.280
student has their own Chromebook computer and

00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:14.860
chat GPT and things like that are blocked. Well,

00:42:15.019 --> 00:42:17.099
even if they're blocked, students are either

00:42:17.099 --> 00:42:19.179
students can either use it on their phones, use

00:42:19.179 --> 00:42:22.480
it on their iPads, or they can find, you know,

00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:24.440
like little firewalls and stuff like that. Yeah.

00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.860
And so it's always, always a problem. And even

00:42:28.860 --> 00:42:31.429
if none of that is true they have a computer

00:42:31.429 --> 00:42:35.230
at home and they're using it there like I obviously

00:42:35.230 --> 00:42:37.630
I'm an English teacher I'm gonna make a kid write

00:42:37.630 --> 00:42:40.429
an essay one thing I love is teaching how to

00:42:40.429 --> 00:42:42.869
write essays you've loved writing your whole

00:42:42.869 --> 00:42:47.010
life oh I love writing everything creative not

00:42:47.010 --> 00:42:50.889
creative essays research personal narrative everything

00:42:50.889 --> 00:42:55.980
I love it so I love teaching that and What's

00:42:55.980 --> 00:42:59.219
really annoying to me is I will put in so much

00:42:59.219 --> 00:43:03.840
time, so much work, so much notes, so much modeling,

00:43:03.980 --> 00:43:08.320
so much effort into giving them a week to two

00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:11.260
weeks to write, say, a five paragraph essay.

00:43:11.539 --> 00:43:15.420
And I think the first essay of this school year,

00:43:15.579 --> 00:43:19.139
I gave like 10 kids zeros without the option

00:43:19.139 --> 00:43:24.420
to resubmit because there was evidence of. ai

00:43:24.420 --> 00:43:29.039
and stuff like that and i know that that you

00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.699
know what grammarly is it's my personal hell

00:43:32.699 --> 00:43:35.940
i hate grammarly it doesn't even work half the

00:43:35.940 --> 00:43:38.099
time it's not that it doesn't work it's that

00:43:38.099 --> 00:43:42.119
like grammarly was the really one of the first

00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:47.659
um first applications like one of the first apps

00:43:48.799 --> 00:43:52.559
To force AI into every facet of what you were

00:43:52.559 --> 00:43:55.159
trying to do. Absolutely. And it's like, okay,

00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.440
so you open up the extension to, like, add itself

00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.659
to Microsoft Word or to Chrome or to Gmail. I

00:44:00.659 --> 00:44:02.320
think were the first three places you could use

00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:06.019
it. And, like, it was in my undergrad at IU,

00:44:06.340 --> 00:44:10.099
it was we got it all for free. Like, Graham really

00:44:10.099 --> 00:44:13.019
had to have come to IU and said, hey, we want.

00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.059
you to be early adopters of this. And the way

00:44:16.059 --> 00:44:19.019
that it was so aggressively like, like, I'm gonna

00:44:19.019 --> 00:44:20.719
get in here and I'm gonna like, I'm gonna recorrect

00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.679
what you're doing. I hate Grammarly. Absolutely.

00:44:23.980 --> 00:44:28.260
And like you said, that's it, it uses AI to help

00:44:28.260 --> 00:44:31.860
you with that. So when I use my own AI detectors,

00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.280
when assessing essays, I go into it with the

00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.059
expectation of they are told to use Grammarly.

00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:40.920
I tell them, hey, if you want to use Grammarly

00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:43.679
to, you know, edit and revise your work, go for

00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:47.360
it. So I know that if one of my AI detectors

00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:52.199
says, oh, 12 % of this essay is AI generated,

00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.619
then I'll be like, okay, maybe it was just Grammarly.

00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:03.050
I'm talking 60, 80, 95, 100%. of a child's essay

00:45:03.050 --> 00:45:07.110
is AI generated. And it was even embarrassing

00:45:07.110 --> 00:45:11.449
recently. And this is actually funny to talk

00:45:11.449 --> 00:45:15.469
about because recently my school has been issued

00:45:15.469 --> 00:45:19.250
a grant for this AI program called Magic School

00:45:19.250 --> 00:45:22.530
AI. And that's specifically for schools, for

00:45:22.530 --> 00:45:26.800
students and for teachers. So I was also part

00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.480
of a like a committee where I had to be a part

00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.199
of like an all day professional development about

00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:35.159
how to use it, how to utilize it in the classroom,

00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.800
how I can use it as a teacher, how students can

00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.039
use it on their end. And I was supposed to make

00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:45.460
a lesson involving Magic School AI. So essentially

00:45:45.460 --> 00:45:48.639
what I did. I know this is a long story, but

00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:50.659
essentially what I did was I have a question

00:45:50.659 --> 00:45:52.559
in one second. Don't let me forget that. I have

00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:54.820
a question very specifically about magic school.

00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:58.139
I have a go ahead. OK, so essentially. What I

00:45:58.139 --> 00:46:01.139
wanted to do for my kids was I wanted them to

00:46:01.139 --> 00:46:04.139
take what they learned from George and Lenny

00:46:04.139 --> 00:46:07.239
of Mice and Men chapter one. And I wanted them

00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.519
to write a diary entry in one of their perspectives.

00:46:09.739 --> 00:46:12.500
And in order to do that, because we had just

00:46:12.500 --> 00:46:14.300
met those characters, we only read one chapter.

00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:18.019
I made a custom chat bot in Magic School AI that

00:46:18.019 --> 00:46:20.739
was specifically going to help them with this

00:46:20.739 --> 00:46:23.679
assignment, give them ideas, offer them guidance.

00:46:24.250 --> 00:46:26.429
check their work, give them feedback, give them

00:46:26.429 --> 00:46:28.889
an estimated score based on a rubric I made and

00:46:28.889 --> 00:46:32.010
uploaded to this chatbot. And thankfully, with

00:46:32.010 --> 00:46:35.929
Magic School AI, it specifically will never write

00:46:35.929 --> 00:46:40.550
anything for a student. Which as far as I know,

00:46:40.570 --> 00:46:42.530
that that is the whole truth. And that's great.

00:46:43.250 --> 00:46:46.170
I had a student come up to me on day two of this

00:46:46.170 --> 00:46:50.920
assignment, being like, Mr. Ramsey. Your chatbot's

00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:52.960
not helping me. I don't know. I don't know what

00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.639
I'm doing. And I'm like, okay, well, let me see

00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:58.360
what you've got so far. She had a fully written

00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:01.420
diary entry and it looked good. I'm like, what

00:47:01.420 --> 00:47:04.099
do you mean? You did a really great diary entry.

00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:06.559
Mind you, she's showing me this on her personal

00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:11.179
iPad. Okay. So. And I'm very comfortable with

00:47:11.179 --> 00:47:12.960
this student. I've been on her iPad once or twice.

00:47:12.980 --> 00:47:15.920
So what I do is she's showing me this on like

00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:18.159
her notes app, like she's typing it on her notes

00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.659
app. I'm like, well, let's see what your conversation

00:47:20.659 --> 00:47:23.900
with the chatbot was. So I went ahead and like

00:47:23.900 --> 00:47:28.000
scrolled up to see her open tabs. The latest

00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:33.079
open tab was ChatGPT. And I go, and she goes.

00:47:37.390 --> 00:47:46.329
I said, I said, Miss girl, there's no way. She

00:47:46.329 --> 00:47:50.730
said, that wasn't me. What? What do you mean?

00:47:50.829 --> 00:47:53.869
What do you mean? I fear that you're a liar.

00:47:54.190 --> 00:47:56.710
So I immediately click on it. I mean, I said,

00:47:56.829 --> 00:47:59.750
well, let's see what ChatGPT has to say. This

00:47:59.750 --> 00:48:03.170
girl said, write me a diary entry and George's

00:48:03.170 --> 00:48:07.409
perspective from chapter one of myself. You're

00:48:07.409 --> 00:48:11.590
sick. I gave you an AI chatbot. What do you mean?

00:48:12.369 --> 00:48:19.789
She thought so boldly that my issued chatbot

00:48:19.789 --> 00:48:22.449
would write the whole thing for her. And when

00:48:22.449 --> 00:48:24.769
it didn't, she was mad and went to chat GPT.

00:48:24.869 --> 00:48:28.909
I said, you're getting a zero and I promptly

00:48:28.909 --> 00:48:31.210
need you to get out of my face. She walked away.

00:48:31.820 --> 00:48:35.420
And mind you, she got a zero on her huge essay

00:48:35.420 --> 00:48:37.599
because she also used chat GPT and admitted it.

00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:41.320
Are we ever going to learn? No, I fear we're

00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:43.739
not. And like this is this is the problem for

00:48:43.739 --> 00:48:45.420
me. I want to come back to this magic school,

00:48:45.460 --> 00:48:50.420
I think. You say your school received a grant.

00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.760
Yes, a two -year grant. My question is, did this

00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:57.079
grant come from the Department of Education or

00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:00.119
did this grant come from the parent company of

00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.739
Magic School AI? I actually couldn't tell you.

00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:05.360
I don't know. I'm going to do digging into this.

00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:07.280
I'm going to do a mama list research because

00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.559
this scares me when you have these companies.

00:49:10.699 --> 00:49:15.599
Because I'll tell you our pretty close experience

00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:19.429
with this. Zachary, my brother, your cousin,

00:49:19.570 --> 00:49:25.429
he was in high school at Triton Central after

00:49:25.429 --> 00:49:28.530
I graduated. And there was a corporation called

00:49:28.530 --> 00:49:31.570
New Tech Corporation or something like it was

00:49:31.570 --> 00:49:35.429
they were the initiative was New Tech. And it

00:49:35.429 --> 00:49:38.690
was all owned by this corporation who said, we're

00:49:38.690 --> 00:49:40.710
going to make these schools technology first

00:49:40.710 --> 00:49:46.309
schools. Right. They came in. They it was it.

00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:49.519
I think it was two years after I graduated high

00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:51.219
school because Zachary was two or three years

00:49:51.219 --> 00:49:53.619
behind me. He would have been a junior or a senior.

00:49:54.099 --> 00:49:58.800
And I guess they came in, they took complete

00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.880
control of the curriculum and said, you will

00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.320
teach this way. This is how your classrooms will

00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.780
be structured. They like paired teachers together.

00:50:07.860 --> 00:50:12.480
Like it became a thing where they. The idea was

00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:14.519
you'll be more ready to go into the workforce

00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.159
if college isn't for you, because I think that

00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:21.260
was where that was where like the data was trending

00:50:21.260 --> 00:50:23.599
was like some kids coming out of Triton just

00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:26.280
didn't go to college. And that's fine. If you

00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:29.460
don't go to college, like it's not for everyone.

00:50:29.500 --> 00:50:31.099
And like, I'm not going to be the person that's

00:50:31.099 --> 00:50:32.920
like, no, every kid needs to go to college because

00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:34.940
I don't I wholeheartedly don't believe that.

00:50:35.019 --> 00:50:40.480
But what it did is it ruined. That, like, I mean,

00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:44.380
I'm telling you, like, the amount of money that

00:50:44.380 --> 00:50:46.380
taxpayers had to pay to get Triton Syndrome out

00:50:46.380 --> 00:50:48.000
of that contract, because it was a complete and

00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:49.960
total disaster for, I think it was two years

00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:53.280
that they were at Triton. And when these companies

00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:58.199
come in and kind of... push their technology

00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:01.039
push their product push whatever in the schools

00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.380
that kind of stuff scares me because i'm like

00:51:03.380 --> 00:51:05.239
what's the ulterior motive here because like

00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:07.480
if it's a for -profit thing i don't want it i

00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.320
want it to have no involvement in the schools

00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:14.630
yeah and i that the first question i have After

00:51:14.630 --> 00:51:17.250
hearing that is did every single teacher quit?

00:51:17.550 --> 00:51:20.750
Because if somebody if I'm teaching the way that

00:51:20.750 --> 00:51:22.849
I've been teaching for six plus years, and then

00:51:22.849 --> 00:51:24.889
all of a sudden someone comes in and says, you're

00:51:24.889 --> 00:51:27.570
going to revamp everything you've ever done,

00:51:27.650 --> 00:51:29.769
and everything that you will do for the next

00:51:29.769 --> 00:51:32.869
one, two years, and you will do things this way.

00:51:33.190 --> 00:51:35.889
And if not, they were going to have issues, I

00:51:35.889 --> 00:51:39.969
would be so gone if i had the means and wherewithal

00:51:39.969 --> 00:51:42.670
they did lose a few teachers and i have a feeling

00:51:42.670 --> 00:51:46.550
that like you had um mr mendenhall like i like

00:51:46.550 --> 00:51:48.170
the teachers like mr mendenhall do you remember

00:51:48.170 --> 00:51:52.050
mr mendenhall from you might have been i don't

00:51:52.050 --> 00:51:53.429
think you would have you wouldn't i don't think

00:51:53.429 --> 00:51:55.429
you ever would have had him but like there were

00:51:55.429 --> 00:51:58.949
teachers like mr mendenhall who like rebuked

00:51:58.949 --> 00:52:00.809
the idea of a computer in his classroom like

00:52:00.809 --> 00:52:03.110
if he showed us movies like he would pull out

00:52:03.110 --> 00:52:06.309
like and i'm not joking like the the big tv on

00:52:06.309 --> 00:52:08.829
the big thing like there was never any use of

00:52:08.829 --> 00:52:12.230
of um like computer like he didn't know how to

00:52:12.230 --> 00:52:14.250
turn on the computer at his desk like and he

00:52:14.250 --> 00:52:16.130
never used it like it was all graded with like

00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.000
red pen and paper yeah and like probably the

00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:22.099
literal grade book yeah he he had a little like

00:52:22.099 --> 00:52:24.420
he had all of it and like i mean he was i mean

00:52:24.420 --> 00:52:26.519
he was a world war ii vet like he was old when

00:52:26.519 --> 00:52:28.320
i was in school so like if he's still around

00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:30.119
like i'd be astonished but like i know he was

00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:33.659
still teaching when zachary was there and i have

00:52:33.659 --> 00:52:35.940
a feeling like he never instituted those things

00:52:35.940 --> 00:52:38.480
in his classroom and like i would imagine because

00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:41.239
he was I will tell you, he was an advocate for

00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:43.199
his students. And, like, he was one of these

00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:44.900
people that if he didn't agree with something,

00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:47.079
he would just close his classroom door. And he'd

00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:49.380
be like, you can come in between classes. Like,

00:52:49.420 --> 00:52:52.000
that's the end of that conversation. Wonderful.

00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:56.239
But, like, I mean, they did lose a fair amount

00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:58.519
of teachers. And I have a feeling that's why

00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:01.420
they had to pair teachers up. Because I know

00:53:01.420 --> 00:53:03.280
they were pairing classes together to use in,

00:53:03.300 --> 00:53:07.050
like, those big classrooms that we had. So. Yeah,

00:53:07.070 --> 00:53:09.570
I imagine that. I mean, we lost the guidance

00:53:09.570 --> 00:53:12.369
counselor. We lost a fair amount of teachers

00:53:12.369 --> 00:53:17.389
there. Well, I'm starting to realize now I am.

00:53:17.489 --> 00:53:19.949
I don't know if it's due to my age or due to

00:53:19.949 --> 00:53:23.849
like me just being a teacher in this time, but

00:53:23.849 --> 00:53:29.460
I am loving. Loving it when students have their

00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:32.179
personal devices, like a school issued device,

00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:35.639
like a Chromebook or like I taught at a Catholic

00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:37.880
school for two years in Tampa. And that was and

00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:41.139
they had personal iPads for classes. And I love

00:53:41.139 --> 00:53:43.619
it. I love technology in the room because my

00:53:43.619 --> 00:53:46.019
work is so accessible that way. And my lessons

00:53:46.019 --> 00:53:49.820
are so accessible that way. And also handwriting

00:53:49.820 --> 00:53:52.079
is crazy. So I love it when they type essays.

00:53:52.179 --> 00:53:55.360
But now I'm starting to see that there are potentially

00:53:55.360 --> 00:54:00.539
detrimental. um, consequences to 100 % technology

00:54:00.539 --> 00:54:03.480
in the classroom. Like, I think, I don't know

00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:06.260
if it was a TikTok that I saw randomly on my

00:54:06.260 --> 00:54:09.679
For You page or one that you had linked in our

00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.639
notes, but a teacher had mentioned, these kids

00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.559
don't know how to hold pencils anymore. Don't

00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.059
know how to hold pencils? What are we talking

00:54:18.059 --> 00:54:21.400
about? That's crazy. And of course, like, as

00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:24.510
a lover of cursive, Nobody knows how to do cursive.

00:54:24.610 --> 00:54:26.329
Nobody knows how to do anything like that. Did

00:54:26.329 --> 00:54:29.269
you learn how to write in cursive? I did. I did.

00:54:29.309 --> 00:54:32.750
I didn't. They taught it to us in like second

00:54:32.750 --> 00:54:34.449
or third grade. And that was the last time we

00:54:34.449 --> 00:54:36.789
ever used it. Like Mrs. Doss was the last time

00:54:36.789 --> 00:54:39.750
that I ever remember seeing cursive. Absolutely.

00:54:39.809 --> 00:54:43.989
I don't. I was never taught it like in consecutive

00:54:43.989 --> 00:54:46.349
years or anything like that. But yes, around

00:54:46.349 --> 00:54:48.710
like second grade, we probably learned cursive.

00:54:49.759 --> 00:54:53.719
I don't think that I actually used it often until

00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:56.480
probably the end of high school and going into

00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:58.539
college. In college, I was really passionate

00:54:58.539 --> 00:55:00.639
about trying to write in cursive all the time.

00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:04.519
And I like writing in cursive now. I do both.

00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:06.699
It's kind of half and half for me. It just depends

00:55:06.699 --> 00:55:12.880
on the vibe, I guess. But I would never. I don't

00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:14.460
think I think the only taught us for one year.

00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.760
So I don't. cursive for me you know your mom

00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.059
has like an insane like conspiracy theory about

00:55:20.059 --> 00:55:22.820
cursive but have we talked about those no i don't

00:55:22.820 --> 00:55:24.900
know what you're talking about tanya when she

00:55:24.900 --> 00:55:26.820
found out that schools weren't because cassie

00:55:26.820 --> 00:55:28.460
doesn't know how to read cursive like this is

00:55:28.460 --> 00:55:31.579
something that tanya like has a bone to pick

00:55:31.579 --> 00:55:33.940
with well she has very beautiful cursive my mom

00:55:33.940 --> 00:55:36.280
your mom does have very beautiful like she's

00:55:36.280 --> 00:55:40.679
she ought to be passionate about it yes but um

00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:44.550
she wholeheartedly believes That the reason they

00:55:44.550 --> 00:55:46.289
don't teach cursive in schools anymore, it's

00:55:46.289 --> 00:55:49.369
a liberal conspiracy that they don't want kids

00:55:49.369 --> 00:55:51.449
to be able to read the Constitution anymore so

00:55:51.449 --> 00:55:54.590
they can change whatever they want. It's the

00:55:54.590 --> 00:55:57.289
most insane thing I've ever heard in my life.

00:55:57.489 --> 00:56:01.010
Dear listeners, I literally can't believe the

00:56:01.010 --> 00:56:03.809
words that I'm hearing. Yeah, Tanya wholeheartedly

00:56:03.809 --> 00:56:05.909
believes. Dear listeners, this is the first time

00:56:05.909 --> 00:56:10.800
I'm hearing about my mother in this light. All

00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:15.579
I have to say is no comment. That's crazy. No,

00:56:15.659 --> 00:56:18.340
that's an absolutely wild thing to say. But yeah,

00:56:18.420 --> 00:56:22.800
it is sad. But there are I I would do anything

00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:27.219
for to have like a whole unit where we don't

00:56:27.219 --> 00:56:29.639
touch a phone. We don't touch an iPad. We don't

00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.739
touch a Chromebook. We don't touch a smart board

00:56:32.739 --> 00:56:37.039
that we literally do something like pen, paper,

00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:41.469
book. Anything like that. No technology whatsoever.

00:56:41.570 --> 00:56:43.449
I'd even have the lights off if that's. Do you

00:56:43.449 --> 00:56:45.230
not have the option to do that? Do you not have

00:56:45.230 --> 00:56:48.969
the option just to say, put it all away? We're

00:56:48.969 --> 00:56:51.050
going to I'm going to write on the board. You're

00:56:51.050 --> 00:56:52.909
going to take out a piece of paper and that's

00:56:52.909 --> 00:56:55.050
how it's going to be for this period. I have

00:56:55.050 --> 00:56:59.610
every right to do that. Yes, I can. But these

00:56:59.610 --> 00:57:04.269
kids and I don't mean to sound 60 years old and

00:57:04.269 --> 00:57:08.659
senile when I say this. Kids these days. will

00:57:08.659 --> 00:57:13.739
not survive without their phone, like, within

00:57:13.739 --> 00:57:17.320
arm's reach. It's embarrassing and weird. Like,

00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:22.760
I can take their phones. They'll literally go

00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.539
hysteric, like, into hysterics if they don't

00:57:25.539 --> 00:57:27.840
have it. Can I just tell you something? And this

00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:32.679
is something that, like, truly, like, I've stayed

00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:39.039
up at night about this before. So, like. Our

00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.179
cousin and this is not this is not a knock on

00:57:41.179 --> 00:57:44.800
Logan's parenting. Right. Our cousin Logan has

00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:50.480
two wonderful kids. Wonderful. Yes. I have watched

00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:54.840
the iPad be taken away from one of them and the

00:57:54.840 --> 00:58:00.119
meltdown that followed. Yes. Like because I.

00:58:00.779 --> 00:58:02.880
And they have done studies about like the way

00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:05.900
technology does really rewire your brain. That's

00:58:05.900 --> 00:58:07.960
why there should be a limit on screen time. That's

00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:10.599
like there's like the blue light like does something

00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:14.679
to your brain. It's like it's a thing. And I'm

00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:20.099
I'm I fear and I I'm sure that she's like reeled

00:58:20.099 --> 00:58:23.159
it in. But like I fear that like they're. could

00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:25.400
be an addiction there and i'm like it's it's

00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:27.500
wild to talk about a four -year -old and say

00:58:27.500 --> 00:58:29.340
like he's addicted to something but like what

00:58:29.340 --> 00:58:33.320
do you do with that it's i'm telling you i think

00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:37.639
that a lot of you know the last generation of

00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:39.920
parents and this current generation of parents

00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:44.460
have really lost the plot when it comes to things

00:58:44.460 --> 00:58:48.519
like that where you know if if they Didn't want

00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:50.980
to deal with a tantrum if they didn't want to

00:58:50.980 --> 00:58:54.400
deal with something hard. I mean, I as someone

00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.139
who is not a parent, I will say that being a

00:58:57.139 --> 00:58:59.880
parent is probably the hardest job in the world.

00:58:59.980 --> 00:59:01.940
Oh, 100 percent. There's not a doubt in my mind.

00:59:01.940 --> 00:59:05.239
Of course. Yeah. But parents will just throw

00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.360
a screen in front of a kid in order to shut them

00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:11.820
up or to make a hard situation end or whatever.

00:59:12.179 --> 00:59:17.440
And we really screwed it up in that way. I I

00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:21.420
truly don't know what it will take now for a

00:59:21.420 --> 00:59:24.920
child who I mean, I mean, let's think about it.

00:59:24.980 --> 00:59:29.440
I have I have 16 year olds in my room. They have

00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:34.860
now they were born in like 2009, 2010. That's

00:59:34.860 --> 00:59:37.780
insane. Isn't that disgusting? That's insane.

00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.000
That's crazy. But yeah, most of their birthdays

00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:45.579
fall in 2009, 2010. I mean, were iPhones a thing

00:59:45.579 --> 00:59:49.690
back then? The first iPhone was launched in 2008,

00:59:49.989 --> 00:59:52.289
I think. Yeah, so there's always been iPhones,

00:59:52.469 --> 00:59:55.650
always been iPods, always been YouTube. I'm pretty

00:59:55.650 --> 00:59:57.429
sure YouTube has been around that long. YouTube's

00:59:57.429 --> 01:00:02.989
been around since 2005, I think. Now, for me,

01:00:03.030 --> 01:00:08.510
being almost 28, I remember my childhood, in

01:00:08.510 --> 01:00:10.429
regards to technology, mostly consisted of just

01:00:10.429 --> 01:00:16.210
TV. I don't even, like, but... I you say that

01:00:16.210 --> 01:00:18.250
and like I don't even think you had cable at

01:00:18.250 --> 01:00:21.070
the house in Shelbyville. Like I I think we watched

01:00:21.070 --> 01:00:25.710
like exclusively DVDs. Yes. And I think back

01:00:25.710 --> 01:00:28.989
to that and like and I I don't think this was

01:00:28.989 --> 01:00:30.949
on purpose by any stretch of the imagination.

01:00:31.050 --> 01:00:33.070
Like I genuinely think this is just something

01:00:33.070 --> 01:00:36.570
where like if you guys did have cable, it was

01:00:36.570 --> 01:00:41.280
like the six channel cable. Yeah. And. But, like,

01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:44.980
the amount of access that we did not have. Like,

01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:47.159
I mean, at Granny and Papel's, we always had,

01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:50.739
like, whatever. It was Dish Network or whatever

01:00:50.739 --> 01:00:52.880
it was. And, like, Huck let me watch Sex and

01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:57.039
the City growing up. But, like, I, like, even

01:00:57.039 --> 01:00:58.860
that, there was, like, some level of control

01:00:58.860 --> 01:01:00.719
over, like, what we, not control, but, like,

01:01:00.739 --> 01:01:02.960
there was some monitoring over, like, what we

01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:05.719
had access to. Absolutely. And, like, the amount

01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:10.039
of access that kids have today, like. It's unprecedented.

01:01:10.619 --> 01:01:13.980
And I think that's why a really big issue is

01:01:13.980 --> 01:01:17.219
like that even I struggle with is that we are

01:01:17.219 --> 01:01:20.460
not meant to have this much information accessible

01:01:20.460 --> 01:01:24.000
to us at any given point. And at the drop of

01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:26.760
a hat, because I always think back to it as like

01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:33.050
200 years ago, we would never know. unless somebody

01:01:33.050 --> 01:01:35.130
else went to the town over what was happening

01:01:35.130 --> 01:01:38.170
in that town we would never know unless we visited

01:01:38.170 --> 01:01:40.750
that town itself or somebody that we know visits

01:01:40.750 --> 01:01:44.010
and then tells us like word for word like oh

01:01:44.010 --> 01:01:46.670
my gosh you'll never believe the the thing at

01:01:46.670 --> 01:01:51.010
the saloon that happened in the town of her but

01:01:51.010 --> 01:01:56.409
we know the most horrendous absolutely unbelievable

01:01:56.409 --> 01:02:00.789
information that happens all across the world

01:02:00.789 --> 01:02:05.030
and not only that but we are seeing things that

01:02:05.030 --> 01:02:09.190
no regular human actually has the capacity to

01:02:09.190 --> 01:02:13.489
understand and on one side of the coin it's good

01:02:13.489 --> 01:02:16.170
to know things it's good to be aware and it's

01:02:16.170 --> 01:02:18.670
good to be conscious of all of the bad things

01:02:18.670 --> 01:02:20.670
that are happening around us but on the other

01:02:20.670 --> 01:02:24.429
side of the coin it's literally rotting brains

01:02:24.429 --> 01:02:28.860
like these these kids are so It's either people

01:02:28.860 --> 01:02:31.380
are traumatized or kids are now apathetic to

01:02:31.380 --> 01:02:34.519
it because that's all they've known. They've

01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:38.300
always, always, always had a phone, had an iPad,

01:02:38.539 --> 01:02:42.159
had a computer, had a TV. And all of that was

01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:44.820
so easily accessible to them. Whereas when we

01:02:44.820 --> 01:02:47.940
were kids, yeah, we had TV. Yeah, we had DVDs.

01:02:47.940 --> 01:02:53.440
We had the VCRs. What is that? The big block

01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:57.860
videos? Yeah, like VCRs. I don't. Did we have

01:02:57.860 --> 01:03:00.980
VCRs? We had like. We had them at Granny's house.

01:03:01.019 --> 01:03:03.500
Yes, at Granny's. Yeah. But at the same time,

01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:07.440
we had such a fun time playing outside, jumping

01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.340
on the trampolines, like Bailey and Zachary playing

01:03:10.340 --> 01:03:12.880
army outside the backyard. This is something

01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:17.039
really interesting. We're like, I, I remember

01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:20.139
like Papa built that like tree house thing for

01:03:20.139 --> 01:03:22.420
us. And like, I remember like that was like.

01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:25.980
You couldn't tell me that was not like I wasn't

01:03:25.980 --> 01:03:27.380
the king of the castle there. And it's like,

01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:31.039
I feel like kids don't have that anymore. And

01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:34.420
it's like, on some level, I feel kind of bad

01:03:34.420 --> 01:03:37.380
because I'm just like that. We had good childhoods.

01:03:37.380 --> 01:03:39.760
It's like as messed up as things got, like just

01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:42.760
with family stuff or whatever. We still had incredible

01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:46.000
childhoods that I wouldn't have traded for anything

01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:53.789
in the world. I don't think. I hope that kids

01:03:53.789 --> 01:03:56.250
still have that level of imagination that you

01:03:56.250 --> 01:03:58.190
and I were able to have. I don't know. Well,

01:03:58.210 --> 01:04:01.170
it's exactly what you said earlier, that AI itself

01:04:01.170 --> 01:04:04.429
is cutting off all the creativity. I even had,

01:04:04.550 --> 01:04:08.590
you know, in my pre -AP class, part of the unit

01:04:08.590 --> 01:04:12.750
has to do with analyzing arguments being made

01:04:12.750 --> 01:04:17.300
in editorial cartoons. An editorial cartoon that

01:04:17.300 --> 01:04:20.320
I showed on Monday on e -learning day was like

01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:23.780
a big robot arm holding a pair of scissors to

01:04:23.780 --> 01:04:28.719
this one thread that represents creativity of

01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:30.860
the human body. And like it's about to cut the

01:04:30.860 --> 01:04:33.980
single thread. And I mean, that's what everybody

01:04:33.980 --> 01:04:37.579
knows. And it's so acknowledged yet AI is so

01:04:37.579 --> 01:04:41.719
deeply ingrained. Like the. The reason why we

01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:44.079
got this grant for Magic School AI in the first

01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:46.820
place is because my principal had to tell it

01:04:46.820 --> 01:04:49.599
to us, like the people as part of the all day

01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:54.139
PD about it was, yeah, we know that AI is a problem

01:04:54.139 --> 01:04:57.519
in schools, yada, yada, yada. We're too deep

01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.000
into it now and we might as well embrace it.

01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:02.119
The genie's out of the bottle like that. Yeah.

01:05:02.219 --> 01:05:05.880
And like I get both sides of it. Like I know

01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:07.980
that it's not something that we can escape anymore,

01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:12.039
but also why? Do we have to feed into something

01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:18.139
if it's only going to do absolutely nothing to

01:05:18.139 --> 01:05:21.920
enrich these kids? Now, I'll say magic school

01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.360
AI as somebody who, you know, has had professional

01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:28.940
development about it, has used it. That's definitely

01:05:28.940 --> 01:05:31.860
the best use of AI in a school because it's specifically

01:05:31.860 --> 01:05:37.199
made for a school setting where it will not let

01:05:37.199 --> 01:05:41.780
students. have it written for them which is great

01:05:41.780 --> 01:05:46.139
um it's supposed to be used as tools as resources

01:05:46.139 --> 01:05:49.980
as guidance um whereas the kids have to create

01:05:49.980 --> 01:05:52.119
the end product whether it be like some sort

01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:56.960
of written response or whatever but i i'm just

01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:00.460
i am certainly at my wits end when it comes to

01:06:00.460 --> 01:06:03.539
chat gpt and stuff like that i'm even trying

01:06:03.539 --> 01:06:07.219
to stop using it in my personal life because

01:06:09.179 --> 01:06:12.599
I don't want to be saying, oh, AI is bad, blah,

01:06:12.639 --> 01:06:14.300
blah, blah, blah, blah, and then use it to be

01:06:14.300 --> 01:06:17.300
like, what's a recipe I can, what's a salad that

01:06:17.300 --> 01:06:20.280
I can make with pecans and cranberries? I'll

01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:22.320
figure that out myself like I used to in the

01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:25.000
good old days. Are you kidding? Not the good

01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:29.659
old days. In the good old days. Josh, do you

01:06:29.659 --> 01:06:32.679
believe in horoscopes? I'm so glad you asked.

01:06:33.400 --> 01:06:37.710
I'm so glad you asked this question. Used to

01:06:37.710 --> 01:06:40.670
be really passionate about it, but let me tell

01:06:40.670 --> 01:06:45.530
you about my sun sign. I'm a Sagittarius. I don't

01:06:45.530 --> 01:06:49.210
align with any, anything regarding a Sagittarius.

01:06:50.070 --> 01:06:55.789
Sagittariuses are, um, they're, um, what's the

01:06:55.789 --> 01:06:59.730
word I'm looking for? What's the, what's the

01:06:59.730 --> 01:07:05.409
words where it's like, I'm in, uh, not outspoken.

01:07:06.429 --> 01:07:08.230
Introverted? Yes. OK, I'm looking for those.

01:07:08.309 --> 01:07:14.630
So cut all that thinking. So for Sagittarius,

01:07:14.630 --> 01:07:17.369
they're supposed to be very extroverted and very

01:07:17.369 --> 01:07:21.510
like whimsical and all these things. And in some

01:07:21.510 --> 01:07:24.369
cases I can be extroverted. I find myself to

01:07:24.369 --> 01:07:27.269
be a little, you know, a lover of whimsy, but

01:07:27.269 --> 01:07:34.670
I'm not as busy. I'm not as like. I find myself

01:07:34.670 --> 01:07:37.869
to be a lover of whimsy. I find myself to be

01:07:37.869 --> 01:07:39.809
a lover of whimsy. That's the episode title.

01:07:39.869 --> 01:07:41.889
I want you to know that. For sure. I find myself

01:07:41.889 --> 01:07:46.050
to be a lover of whimsy. I do. I love whimsy,

01:07:46.050 --> 01:07:49.610
but not in the way that Sagittarius people do.

01:07:49.949 --> 01:07:53.789
Like, I also, I'm very much a homebody. I'm very

01:07:53.789 --> 01:07:57.010
introverted in a lot of ways, which obviously,

01:07:57.070 --> 01:08:00.429
why am I a teacher? You know what I mean? I can

01:08:00.429 --> 01:08:02.409
fake it till I make it for sure. And I do it

01:08:02.409 --> 01:08:05.889
well. But I'm very introverted at heart. I'm

01:08:05.889 --> 01:08:08.409
very much a homebody, all these things. Now,

01:08:08.449 --> 01:08:12.110
if you asked me about like my moon sign, which

01:08:12.110 --> 01:08:15.230
is a Capricorn, I align with almost all aspects

01:08:15.230 --> 01:08:17.470
of Capricorn. So some of it I do believe and

01:08:17.470 --> 01:08:19.810
some of it I really don't. What are you thinking

01:08:19.810 --> 01:08:23.789
about horoscopes? Well, you mentioned it earlier,

01:08:23.869 --> 01:08:25.890
and that's the only reason I added it to the

01:08:25.890 --> 01:08:28.850
list. I know. So the whole thing with horoscopes,

01:08:28.850 --> 01:08:34.130
I believe that, like, some of this stuff is so

01:08:34.130 --> 01:08:38.470
broadly written that, like, anyone can see a

01:08:38.470 --> 01:08:41.189
little bit of themselves in anything. But I will

01:08:41.189 --> 01:08:43.670
tell you, like, any time someone finds out that

01:08:43.670 --> 01:08:45.930
I'm an Aries, like, they're like, yes, you are.

01:08:46.109 --> 01:08:48.079
And I'm like... I don't even know the first thing

01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:51.020
about an Aries. What's the deal with Aries? Okay,

01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:56.319
so according to CoStar, the app, Sun and Aries,

01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:59.060
the Sun determines your ego, identity, and role

01:08:59.060 --> 01:09:01.239
in life. It's the core of who you are, and it's

01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:05.100
the sign you're most likely to already know.

01:09:05.739 --> 01:09:07.680
I don't know what that means. Your Sun is an

01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:10.840
Aries, so you are fundamentally assertive and

01:09:10.840 --> 01:09:14.779
persistent and courageous. I hate that they put

01:09:14.779 --> 01:09:19.159
assertive and persistent. And courageous. Some

01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:23.180
very hard hitting in your face things. So naturally

01:09:23.180 --> 01:09:25.319
competitive and fiercely independent. You push

01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:27.359
things forward with energy and enthusiasm and

01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:30.079
persevere through anything. You need to learn

01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:33.279
to understand other people as complex holes.

01:09:34.739 --> 01:09:37.319
That's a lot of word salad, I feel like. Do you

01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:40.760
know what I mean? It's like, yeah, like I'm loud

01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:44.000
and aggressive, but like I don't. Think that

01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:46.920
I could be wrong. I don't know. Well, when you

01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:49.560
say some of those things, I can see that in you.

01:09:49.619 --> 01:09:51.539
But like you said, like that can be said about

01:09:51.539 --> 01:09:54.579
all kinds of people with all kinds of signs.

01:09:55.180 --> 01:10:00.319
And I I think that I like horoscopes for people

01:10:00.319 --> 01:10:03.180
who like them because it's kind of similar to

01:10:03.180 --> 01:10:06.619
like when you get a tarot reading where a lot

01:10:06.619 --> 01:10:10.739
of it can be very general and. that it can apply

01:10:10.739 --> 01:10:14.760
to anyone but if they genuinely need that message

01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:17.460
and they needed that verbalized in some sort

01:10:17.460 --> 01:10:20.340
of way whether it be from costar or from a tarot

01:10:20.340 --> 01:10:23.039
card i think that that's great and you heard

01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:25.560
what you have to hear and i used to be a little

01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:27.800
woo -woo when it comes to like crystals and stuff

01:10:27.800 --> 01:10:30.060
like that and i think that at that time i genuinely

01:10:30.060 --> 01:10:33.020
needed to be a little woo -woo And I'm really

01:10:33.020 --> 01:10:35.680
happy to have had those experiences because I

01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:40.479
also learned a lot. I feel very smart learning

01:10:40.479 --> 01:10:43.460
about different minerals and not just like their

01:10:43.460 --> 01:10:45.340
metaphysical properties, but other properties

01:10:45.340 --> 01:10:47.560
as well. I think it's all very fun to learn about

01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:50.140
and it's very fascinating. And I think that a

01:10:50.140 --> 01:10:51.979
lot of people get that out of horoscopes as well.

01:10:52.159 --> 01:10:58.460
But my honest question is, do you. Did you then

01:10:58.460 --> 01:11:01.770
or do. And or do you now truly believe that like

01:11:01.770 --> 01:11:05.090
different rocks have like different powers? No,

01:11:05.170 --> 01:11:07.229
I don't think that they have powers. But I but

01:11:07.229 --> 01:11:09.710
what I do believe then and what I what I did

01:11:09.710 --> 01:11:14.050
believe then and what I do believe now is certain

01:11:14.050 --> 01:11:20.310
rocks, minerals, crystals represent something

01:11:20.310 --> 01:11:23.430
that maybe you want to manifest and they can

01:11:23.430 --> 01:11:27.560
be a visual. reminder of what you're trying to

01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:30.420
manifest and what you want to be and accomplish.

01:11:30.659 --> 01:11:33.180
So it only has the power you give it. Yes. Okay.

01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:35.340
I believe that. That's fair. Like, I believe

01:11:35.340 --> 01:11:37.720
that about any number of things. Like, I, I don't

01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:41.880
know. I like, I mean, I, the Harry Potter one

01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:45.100
that I have, like that I, the elder one, like

01:11:45.100 --> 01:11:48.479
I am like, Oh, well that obviously it's not like

01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:50.539
a real thing, but like, I'm like, Oh, this represents

01:11:50.539 --> 01:11:53.859
like me wanting to. I'm going to cut this because

01:11:53.859 --> 01:11:56.600
I have no idea where I'm going with it. But it

01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:00.119
only has the power you give it. OK, that's whatever.

01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:02.380
Yeah. Do you have anything to complain about

01:12:02.380 --> 01:12:05.760
to close this out? Oh, my God. You know what

01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:07.579
I have to complain about? Tell me, tell me, tell

01:12:07.579 --> 01:12:14.659
me. If I see one more useless, ugly husband in

01:12:14.659 --> 01:12:16.699
a grocery store, I'm going to lose my marbles.

01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:20.100
Tell me everything. So. Recently, I went to a

01:12:20.100 --> 01:12:23.079
Meijer. I love a Meijer. I love Meijer. Oh, I

01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:26.119
love Meijer. It's my favorite now. I don't go

01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:28.079
to Walmart anymore. I especially don't go to

01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:31.260
Target for groceries very, very often. I know.

01:12:32.819 --> 01:12:36.020
Cut that out. Cut that out. I don't go to Target

01:12:36.020 --> 01:12:38.439
anymore. I don't go to Walmart anymore. I love

01:12:38.439 --> 01:12:40.659
grocery shopping at Meijer. Oh, I love to put.

01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:43.239
Let me just tell you, like Emma and I have talked

01:12:43.239 --> 01:12:45.479
a lot about this. We're like, you remember you

01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:48.569
and I used to do this. Target used to be like

01:12:48.569 --> 01:12:50.909
our church, like where we would go. And like

01:12:50.909 --> 01:12:53.770
it was you, me, Tanya. And you had to lock in

01:12:53.770 --> 01:12:55.630
for like three and a half hours. And you were

01:12:55.630 --> 01:12:57.449
not leaving that store for three and a half hours.

01:12:57.510 --> 01:12:59.130
And you would go in and you would get a cart.

01:12:59.229 --> 01:13:01.369
You would get Starbucks. You'd put the Starbucks

01:13:01.369 --> 01:13:04.229
in the cup holder in the cart. You would silence

01:13:04.229 --> 01:13:06.149
your phone and you would say, we're going to

01:13:06.149 --> 01:13:07.850
talk for three and a half hours and we're going

01:13:07.850 --> 01:13:09.670
to be here together. And we're going to go through

01:13:09.670 --> 01:13:13.819
every single. I don't care if you don't need

01:13:13.819 --> 01:13:16.619
tampons. I don't care if you don't need condoms.

01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.619
We're going through those aisles. My mouth is

01:13:19.619 --> 01:13:23.819
watering at the idea of salivating. But like

01:13:23.819 --> 01:13:28.420
after Target, I pulled their games in our faces.

01:13:29.699 --> 01:13:32.079
I did that at Meijer. And let me tell you, I

01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:35.939
like it better at Meijer. Perfect. Well, I love

01:13:35.939 --> 01:13:40.289
going to Meijer specifically for groceries. There's

01:13:40.289 --> 01:13:42.390
something like if I need something, then absolutely.

01:13:42.430 --> 01:13:46.510
I'll be going through all the like the like the

01:13:46.510 --> 01:13:49.869
kitchen aisles. And sometimes I rummage the tchotchkes

01:13:49.869 --> 01:13:54.850
and the little things. Please. Yes. Well, one

01:13:54.850 --> 01:13:58.970
time recently, I wanted to specifically make

01:13:58.970 --> 01:14:01.289
some sort of recipe. So I was grabbing things.

01:14:01.369 --> 01:14:02.869
I knew exactly where I was going. Grabbing things,

01:14:02.949 --> 01:14:05.449
grabbing things. From the moment I walked in

01:14:05.449 --> 01:14:09.479
to the mire, I saw this woman. on the phone with

01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:12.500
what sounded like a doctor. And she had a cart,

01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:15.939
her cart was half full by this time. We were

01:14:15.939 --> 01:14:17.420
like in the produce, she was already in the produce,

01:14:17.500 --> 01:14:19.279
I was walking up to the produce. And I'm like,

01:14:19.300 --> 01:14:23.399
what a busy woman, look at her go. I grab all

01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:25.659
of my things. And I go to the self checkout.

01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:28.479
I see this woman, her cart is now full. She's

01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:30.380
still on the phone with what I believe to be

01:14:30.380 --> 01:14:33.279
a doctor. And she's scanning things with one

01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:35.600
hand. She's got a full cart in the self checkout.

01:14:35.699 --> 01:14:40.159
Okay. And then all of a sudden, to my demise,

01:14:40.500 --> 01:14:43.960
I see a man on his phone walking slowly into

01:14:43.960 --> 01:14:46.119
the checkout and he stands in the middle. And

01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:47.880
I, you know, like at Meijer, it's kind of like

01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:50.720
a big square situation. I hate when people do

01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:53.560
that. Yeah. And so he's in the middle and he's

01:14:53.560 --> 01:14:56.779
on his phone. And I'm like, who's this man? Like,

01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.180
what a creep. What a weirdo. That's just how

01:14:59.180 --> 01:15:02.840
I think of 99 % of men these days anyways. And

01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:08.000
he's literally in the way where like women. it's

01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:09.840
basically all women with all these carts. They're

01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:13.439
trying to get around him to go to an open register.

01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:17.039
And they're like, excuse me, excuse me. Finally,

01:15:17.079 --> 01:15:18.920
he moves over, but then he gets in the way of

01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:20.739
somebody else. And so then he moves over again.

01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:24.960
And then this woman, I I'm in the, I'm on the

01:15:24.960 --> 01:15:28.100
register next to her. And then she, she goes,

01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:32.300
sweetie, sweetie, please come here. I go, oh,

01:15:32.380 --> 01:15:36.159
he's yours. Oh, my God. He's yours. Oh, my God.

01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:41.779
That's yours. Oh, what a nightmare. So he's still

01:15:41.779 --> 01:15:44.960
on his phone. She's scanning every single item

01:15:44.960 --> 01:15:48.060
while on the phone with her doctor. And he's

01:15:48.060 --> 01:15:51.340
not helping. And I'm like, what? And he's like,

01:15:51.380 --> 01:15:55.819
got the flat slides where like he's worn them

01:15:55.819 --> 01:15:58.220
down so much. That's what he's wearing. No socks.

01:15:58.300 --> 01:16:01.829
Right. And just looks like he hasn't showered.

01:16:01.829 --> 01:16:04.810
Looks like he hasn't shaved. Nothing of the sort.

01:16:04.890 --> 01:16:10.010
And I'm like, why do we let them out of the house?

01:16:12.069 --> 01:16:14.489
I wanted to be like, are you okay, Blink, twice

01:16:14.489 --> 01:16:19.149
if you need help? Like, you let this one out

01:16:19.149 --> 01:16:22.329
of the house? What's going on? And why is he

01:16:22.329 --> 01:16:24.750
not helping? Why is he not scanning the groceries

01:16:24.750 --> 01:16:28.930
while you're on the phone with your doctor? Guess

01:16:28.930 --> 01:16:31.810
what I have to complain about? Men. Men in a

01:16:31.810 --> 01:16:35.390
grocery store. Men in a grocery store. Ew. If

01:16:35.390 --> 01:16:37.250
you're not going to help, don't go. I agree.

01:16:37.550 --> 01:16:40.789
Yeah. So that's what I have. What are you complaining

01:16:40.789 --> 01:16:42.750
about these days? What am I complaining about?

01:16:43.470 --> 01:16:48.430
What did I have to complain about this week?

01:16:51.470 --> 01:16:59.579
I feel like... Guys that are too into the cold

01:16:59.579 --> 01:17:04.420
plunge at Lifetime... Ew. What a nightmare. Please,

01:17:04.539 --> 01:17:09.460
tell me. I... At the Lifetime in Castleton, they...

01:17:09.460 --> 01:17:12.359
So they had two hot tubs at one point. They replaced

01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:14.479
one of the hot tubs with a cold plunge pool.

01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:16.600
Great. Cool. It has amazing health benefits.

01:17:16.720 --> 01:17:21.079
Love that for everyone. The issue that I have

01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:25.470
is like... This is one of these health movements

01:17:25.470 --> 01:17:28.390
that like a lot of these like alpha bros have

01:17:28.390 --> 01:17:32.189
have adopted that is like, I can stay in the

01:17:32.189 --> 01:17:35.210
cold plants for seven minutes. You don't understand.

01:17:37.189 --> 01:17:40.310
And I'm like, and they're just talking about

01:17:40.310 --> 01:17:42.050
it and talking and talking and talking and talking.

01:17:42.130 --> 01:17:46.770
And like when I asked. No one. Yeah. No one on

01:17:46.770 --> 01:17:51.569
God's green earth asked. And. I think it's amazing

01:17:51.569 --> 01:17:54.590
that you are taking charge of your health. You're

01:17:54.590 --> 01:17:59.170
like resetting your like nerve. I don't know

01:17:59.170 --> 01:18:01.689
what you're doing. Whatever it is. I know that

01:18:01.689 --> 01:18:03.850
I can get into my belly button and then I'm like

01:18:03.850 --> 01:18:05.710
I promptly get out. So you're doing more than

01:18:05.710 --> 01:18:07.810
I can and I love that so much for you. Good for

01:18:07.810 --> 01:18:10.810
you. I don't want to hear. I don't care. And

01:18:10.810 --> 01:18:12.729
like this is something that Emma and I have talked

01:18:12.729 --> 01:18:15.329
about on the podcast. We're like. This is this

01:18:15.329 --> 01:18:17.029
is the thing. I don't I don't think it's specific

01:18:17.029 --> 01:18:18.689
to Lifetime because they used to do this when

01:18:18.689 --> 01:18:20.890
I worked out at L .A. Fitness, too. But like

01:18:20.890 --> 01:18:24.890
it is guys need everyone in the locker room to

01:18:24.890 --> 01:18:28.189
know everything going on in their lives. Like

01:18:28.189 --> 01:18:29.550
they're going through a divorce. They're like

01:18:29.550 --> 01:18:31.729
whatever the case may be. And I'm like, babe,

01:18:31.890 --> 01:18:36.069
I don't care. I swear to God, I don't care. And

01:18:36.069 --> 01:18:38.789
they've got to have so much confidence to do

01:18:38.789 --> 01:18:42.260
that. Whereas it sounds like I was going to say

01:18:42.260 --> 01:18:45.020
it's got to come from a place of severe insecurity

01:18:45.020 --> 01:18:50.520
where they have to share everything with everyone

01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:54.600
because maybe they're lonely elsewhere. But it's

01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:58.340
also if I'm in a locker room, I better not hear

01:18:58.340 --> 01:19:01.079
a word in my direction. I don't want anybody

01:19:01.079 --> 01:19:04.699
to talk to me. No one. And so it's crazy that

01:19:04.699 --> 01:19:07.420
a stranger just wants to open up. And I think

01:19:07.420 --> 01:19:10.340
that. I don't know. Do you have that kind of

01:19:10.340 --> 01:19:12.399
personality where people will just spew things

01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:14.779
at you because they feel like you're you've got

01:19:14.779 --> 01:19:17.819
this aura about you that makes people feel open

01:19:17.819 --> 01:19:20.819
and vulnerable and they want to be that way?

01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:23.039
And I'm happy to talk to anyone like, you know,

01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:24.840
I'll talk to any stranger on the street. I don't

01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:30.939
care. But like when I'm. I'm in I'm locked in

01:19:30.939 --> 01:19:33.579
at the gym, I'm like my pre workouts kicking

01:19:33.579 --> 01:19:39.560
in or I've got my headphones in or. I have my

01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:41.779
eyes closed in a steam room or in the sauna.

01:19:42.779 --> 01:19:45.199
I don't know what about me gives the signal of

01:19:45.199 --> 01:19:47.220
like, hey, buddy, what's a good restaurant around

01:19:47.220 --> 01:19:51.600
here? Literally. See, because I have the same

01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:55.760
problem, too, where. And I think that this is

01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:58.840
an issue where there's not a lot of social awareness

01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:01.939
anymore. People aren't very keen on social cues

01:20:01.939 --> 01:20:04.380
like you with your headphones on you with your

01:20:04.380 --> 01:20:07.859
eyes closed. That doesn't say interrupt what

01:20:07.859 --> 01:20:10.619
is going on and say something because people

01:20:10.619 --> 01:20:14.239
do that to me, too. And I try to be as nice as

01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:17.060
I possibly can, while also being assertive in

01:20:17.060 --> 01:20:19.239
my own comfort to where, like, I'm not going

01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:22.659
to continue to initiate a conversation if I don't

01:20:22.659 --> 01:20:25.380
want to. So don't talk to me. You know what I

01:20:25.380 --> 01:20:28.279
mean? And this is the thing is, like, I say this

01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:31.199
knowing full well, I have sparked up conversations

01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:33.680
with guys at the gym where, like, if I am in

01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:36.039
a place where I want to talk, great. But, like,

01:20:36.079 --> 01:20:39.560
I think you've always had this problem where

01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:41.720
you're, like, nice to your own detriment. Yes.

01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:50.880
I am mean to people. Incredible. And I've burned

01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:53.859
a few bridges at Lifetime Fitness. Yeah? Yeah,

01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:55.819
where I'm just, like, where I've fully been,

01:20:55.899 --> 01:20:59.439
like, the worst of it is, like, when they want

01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:01.279
to bring up politics in the locker room. I swear

01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:03.340
to God, there's a guy that works at Lifetime

01:21:03.340 --> 01:21:06.460
who drives a Cybertruck who is from Russia. Like,

01:21:06.539 --> 01:21:10.020
he's been here since. He's 10 years old, but,

01:21:10.020 --> 01:21:12.449
like, he... holds on to a lot of those values

01:21:12.449 --> 01:21:14.989
and he brought up one time he's like all right

01:21:14.989 --> 01:21:16.850
sometimes you just gotta keep these women in

01:21:16.850 --> 01:21:18.350
line and like let them know you're gonna move

01:21:18.350 --> 01:21:20.090
right on to the next one and i looked him dead

01:21:20.090 --> 01:21:22.390
in the face because like he had very clearly

01:21:22.390 --> 01:21:24.250
done three lines of coke in the locker room like

01:21:24.250 --> 01:21:26.649
right before he got in the sauna and it was me

01:21:26.649 --> 01:21:28.789
and like three other guys and like you know how

01:21:28.789 --> 01:21:32.270
like my liberal mind will not let it stop and

01:21:32.270 --> 01:21:34.750
like everyone else in there was just like oh

01:21:34.750 --> 01:21:36.789
my god like just let it come to it and let it

01:21:36.789 --> 01:21:38.390
come to it i got to the point where i was like

01:21:38.989 --> 01:21:40.970
This is not a conversation any of us are willing

01:21:40.970 --> 01:21:42.869
to participate in. You need to stop. Like, I

01:21:42.869 --> 01:21:45.229
swear to God, I don't care who you voted for.

01:21:45.350 --> 01:21:47.289
I don't care who you don't want to have rights.

01:21:47.609 --> 01:21:50.210
At the gym, this is not a place for that. Like,

01:21:50.210 --> 01:21:53.489
shut your mouth. And he was like, uh, uh, uh.

01:21:53.630 --> 01:21:56.369
And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I said shut.

01:21:56.409 --> 01:21:58.050
This wasn't an invitation for a conversation.

01:21:58.369 --> 01:22:00.789
Nope. This is not a conversation I'm willing

01:22:00.789 --> 01:22:03.329
to participate in. We're done here. Shut your

01:22:03.329 --> 01:22:09.579
mouth. Yeah. Like. I. And maybe that's got something

01:22:09.579 --> 01:22:12.220
to do with the male loneliness epidemic where

01:22:12.220 --> 01:22:14.539
like they if they don't have any. Be lonely.

01:22:14.819 --> 01:22:17.220
Be lonely. Be lonely. Maybe there's a reason

01:22:17.220 --> 01:22:21.439
you're lonely. Hmm. Have we ever considered maybe

01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:24.720
you're lonely for a good reason? Perhaps. Keep

01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:28.060
men lonely. Keep men lonely. I I should be more

01:22:28.060 --> 01:22:31.180
lonely. I would argue. Well, thankfully, there

01:22:31.180 --> 01:22:36.720
are. I could probably count on. less than two

01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:40.779
hands good men who don't deserve to be lonely

01:22:40.779 --> 01:22:43.529
who don't deserve to be lonely and you are One

01:22:43.529 --> 01:22:45.869
of them. Thank you. You don't deserve to be lonely.

01:22:45.949 --> 01:22:47.590
And I think that's because you are a genuinely

01:22:47.590 --> 01:22:50.529
good person and you make meaningful connections

01:22:50.529 --> 01:22:53.770
with others that don't involve you spewing politics

01:22:53.770 --> 01:22:56.829
in the sauna at a lifetime fitness. And I don't

01:22:56.829 --> 01:22:59.130
see politics anywhere else. But like the gym

01:22:59.130 --> 01:23:01.569
in my mind is a sacred place. I'm like, you go

01:23:01.569 --> 01:23:03.930
in there and you shut your mouth. Well, people

01:23:03.930 --> 01:23:06.189
literally need that for their mental health.

01:23:06.210 --> 01:23:09.289
Yes. Half the time. Like, so don't mess that

01:23:09.289 --> 01:23:11.789
up and make people uncomfortable. Exactly. People

01:23:11.789 --> 01:23:13.670
need that for their. mental health or their physical

01:23:13.670 --> 01:23:15.470
health. And sometimes both of those things are

01:23:15.470 --> 01:23:18.289
very vulnerable. So do not mess it up by being

01:23:18.289 --> 01:23:21.489
a douchebag. Don't be weird at the gym. You're

01:23:21.489 --> 01:23:23.310
messing everything up for everybody else. It's

01:23:23.310 --> 01:23:25.930
so embarrassing. I can't stand it. I can't stand

01:23:25.930 --> 01:23:29.750
that for you. Keep men lonely in the sauna. Keep

01:23:29.750 --> 01:23:32.329
men lonely, period. Judge, thank you for being

01:23:32.329 --> 01:23:36.170
here. I am ecstatic to be here and to have been

01:23:36.170 --> 01:23:37.909
here. Did you have a good time? I had the best

01:23:37.909 --> 01:23:39.250
time. Do you want to do this again next week?

01:23:39.270 --> 01:23:41.729
I would literally love to do it next week. Same

01:23:41.729 --> 01:23:45.170
time, same place. Will you, um, I'm going to

01:23:45.170 --> 01:23:49.270
have you watch the hip hop and heartbreak episode

01:23:49.270 --> 01:23:51.050
of the real house as a Salt Lake city season

01:23:51.050 --> 01:23:53.810
one. Oh my God. Um, that's the episode we're

01:23:53.810 --> 01:23:55.729
going to talk about next time for reality roundup.

01:23:56.109 --> 01:23:57.710
Incredible. Should I probably watch everything

01:23:57.710 --> 01:23:59.649
else before that? Well, it's only, it's only

01:23:59.649 --> 01:24:01.390
nine episodes. So watch the first nine episodes,

01:24:01.409 --> 01:24:06.449
right? Is it? Hang on. Let me make sure. Um,

01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.140
yeah that's season one episode nine so like it

01:24:12.140 --> 01:24:15.220
gives you a good foundation for like where where

01:24:15.220 --> 01:24:19.800
everyone's at right now um we'll do that I'm

01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:21.600
so excited thank you for being here this is really

01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:24.100
great thank you so much for having me thanks

01:24:24.100 --> 01:24:27.479
for wanting me to be here I love you and I love

01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:30.840
Emma and while I'm kind of sitting in her seat

01:24:30.840 --> 01:24:33.039
I'm I'm wishing her all the best I know that

01:24:33.979 --> 01:24:36.840
I know that she's having a terrible time, but

01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:40.359
it's not terrible. I think I think the last couple

01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:44.220
of weeks of pregnancy for anyone are like extremely

01:24:44.220 --> 01:24:47.819
difficult, exceedingly miserable. Yeah, for sure.

01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:53.000
So I love you. I love her. I love this. I'm so

01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:55.560
excited to be back. And this is going to be like

01:24:55.560 --> 01:24:59.489
my first real. housewives watch i can't so i

01:24:59.489 --> 01:25:00.989
can't wait to talk to you about it next week

01:25:00.989 --> 01:25:03.350
i'm so excited okay love you so much love you

01:25:03.350 --> 01:25:03.670
bye