Hi, I'm Travis, and this is Bestie Approved.
We're back with our returning champions, Scott
and Jeff from Husbands Watching Housewives. And
we're going to do Real Housewives of Beverly
Hills, the season 15 premiere. You guys have
been on several times, but introduce yourselves.
Let's do the thing. I'm Scott. And I'm Jeff.
And we, like you said, we're the Husbands Watching
Housewives. And we just we watch nothing but
housewife shows and then talk about them. And
we're two husbands of each other because that's
been confusing for some people. We're married
to each other and we like housewives. Yeah, it's
as easy as it gets. Someone recently thought
that we were straight and they're like, where
are your wives? And we're like, oh, no, no, it's
we are. There are no wives. We are. Yeah, it's
us. Yeah. And to their credit, they didn't go.
oh they're like oh okay yeah okay like i thought
for sure they would be even more like oh and
then kind of slowly back away from us but no
they were they were cool like back away they
were in line yeah i mean far be it for me to
like to stereotype but like i i and i love you
guys but like what what what gives wife about
either of you i was like what about this read
straight and we were at bravo con so what about
that read straight yeah so it does not i i think
they were like they were just lovely housewives
that were really hopeful that they too could
have husbands that would watch housewives so
they're projecting onto us i think got it okay
so speaking of bravo con you guys went to bravo
con and emma and i were so deeply jealous of
that and i want to hear about it so like what's
do you have like a rosenthorn from bravo con
like tell me tell me everything Well, the overall
thorn is that everyone who went got god -awfully
sick, it seems. Like, you could just, we were
in part of a Facebook group, and, like, everyone
in there was like, are you sick? Are you, yep,
we're all sick. Oh, no. It was a nasty hold.
But for serious, like, you know, that's just
any convention, I feel, comes back with some
sort of garbage. But the rose. I was going to
also, the thorn is, you know, it's a lot to put
this together, you know, for Bravo, for the production
behind it. But I think there's certain things,
a lot of. A lot of people didn't get photo ops
and things weren't maybe as organized as well
as they could be in certain respects. So there
were a lot of, we weren't disgruntled because,
you know, there are things, you know, I would
have liked better, but for the overall, it was,
it was great. But I think other people just didn't
have the best feeling from it. They still enjoyed
it, but like, you know, I think it left them
questioning whether or not they would come back.
Cause it was a very expensive thing, you know,
we have the tickets and any add -ons. and you
know hotel and airfare and food because vegas
is like insanely expensive just to like you know
breakfast was 60 bucks yeah just to get like
crappy breakfast sandwiches right but uh my personal
thorn though would be uh in the vip room where
we were at the bravo liberties would come in
and they do like little impromptu photo ops and
they're just lines would spontaneously form and
sometimes you didn't even know who it was for
So you'd be standing there in this long ass line.
And then suddenly some, you know, Southern charm
person that you're like, okay, whatever. Then
you get out of line. But we were there. Erica
Jane was there. Jeff really wanted a picture
with her. And we were maybe three people from
the front. We were farther back than that. Not
that far. It was a pretty long line. Either way.
She's like, sorry, sorry, got to go. And she
starts walking off. Basically, it's like they
stand in front of a step and repeat. And it's
like, you come up and take a picture. You hand
your camera to the staff member. a million shots
they're great that the staff excellent at bravo
con excellent i can't say enough about them but
at some point she was like i'm gonna cut this
off and she's like i will come to you in line
and you can take a selfie with me so i'm gonna
walk you stay where you are and i'll take a selfie
but we were prepared um to have not a selfie
so like scott turned the camera you know a beat
too late And so it's like this blurry shot of
like Erica waving. Behind my head. And you have
like the top of my head. So I'm in the photo.
And I did like, when she walked up, I was like,
hi, Erica. And she's like, hi, baby. So I had
that moment. And I cherish that moment with Erica
Jane. And I'm like, I saw her in person, like
up close and personal. And she spoke to me. So
I'm okay with that. So a little thorny, but still
a bit of a rose to it. And then overall, I think
my rose is just being at the panels. And when
they're good, they're good. Like, oh my God,
when you see all this stuff going on, like the
Potomac panel and the Atlanta panel were both
amazing. The Atlanta panel was like a reunion,
basically. And so to see all that shade going
back and forth in real time, you're just like,
whoa, it's like, I don't have subtitles. I need
subtitles. And I think also my personal rose
was when we had our photo op with Tamara and
Katie Janela. okay you know scott went to tamra
and i walked up to katie and she took my hands
and hers and she's like i know you from tick
tock i know you from tick tock and i was like
i love that i i am on the tick tock and she's
like no and i was like i realized later on i
should have been like husband's watching housewives
like throw her a bone yeah but i was like just
so caught off guard and then matt her husband
was like waiting behind the scenes and she's
like matt come here come here she's like this
is the guy like from tick tock he's like oh He
shook my hand and he was like, thank you for
what you do. And I was like, thank you. You were
great last night at the reunion. This is after
part two of the reunion, by the way. And I was
just so caught off guard. And so we went straight
from that and we made a video. We put it up on
TikTok. And both she and Matt commented. We tagged
them, of course. But it was just so weird to
have someone... a bravo liberty know who i was
and in some ways um and she was very nice and
she's insanely pretty in person they're all insane
everyone's so pretty also so sure so sure so
katie is one of the ones where i'm i'm i'm sure
she like handles her own social media because
katie follows me on tick tock and like i like
i'm no one and i'm like and like she's commented
on like she's responded to a couple of comments
before and i'm like oh you seem real and you
seem really really cool so i'm glad that like
you guys got that experience in real life because
that's that's really cool to experience yeah
no for sure she does not have a social media
manager i think that is her up in the comments
i think it's bandon i think it's her her son
probably here do this i'm kidding it's like next
i just like saying the name bandon because it's
a silly name for a human i think it's a cute
Like not Brandon, but Bandon? Correct. Oh, that's
cute. I like that. Maybe it's short for Abandon.
We love the name. I love the name. I love Katie
Janela. If you're listening to Katie Janela,
thanks. Dear Katie, your bestie approved. Just
know that. And the husbands watching Housewives
also love you. I forgot to ask you when we kicked
it off, what's the last song you guys listened
to? It would have been at the holiday party last...
No, it would have been coming home in the car
last night. I don't even remember. I mean, with
Spotify wrapped out, I'm listening to all my
favorite songs from 2025. My Spotify wrap says
I'm 66. And I'm fine with that because I skew
older in my musical taste. But my top five artists
were, of course, Mariah, Taylor, Beyonce, Gaga,
and Madonna. And I listened to the Taylor album
and Mariah's new album, like on repeat. So those
are like my top two albums. So yeah, probably
something by them. I found out that one of my
top five music genres is something called bedroom
pop, which at this point I just think Spotify
is making shit up. They're just like, all right,
you listen to gobbledygook. I didn't even tell
me. I was like, I gotta, I gotta Google that
sometime. What about you? What'd you listen to?
uh it was love on the dance floor by vince palmieri
um but speaking so like the the spotify wrapped
thing like it's all over my instagram right now
and like i don't use spotify i listen to apple
music and they do apple music replay and i feel
like every year when i get my replay it's like
it's just calling me the f slur because it's
like you listen to rupaul and you said your top
artist was cashed out for four months in a row
and i was like okay yeah i'm googling bedroom
pop right now to see what this is hang on i had
on my because i made the playlist for my christmas
party office holiday party and um i had uh catch
this joyride on there i discovered that at the
gym it's such a good song and it's not like an
accordion in it what is that like it's like like
yes it starts off like like weird al accordion
and then it gets like you know pop but i love
the song the line when she says um you want kids
well i am mother yes so good and like i just
i like i want to know how this woman's brain
works because i'm just like you sat down and
you like it's just like she sat down and like
wrote lines that like i'm gonna write this in
the lab for gay people like because i know they're
gonna love it and then i'm gonna put an accordion
in the background and then it's gonna like be
it's gonna be like a circus song and i'm like
it's so good it's like that that meme with erica
where she's like we're gonna give the gays everything
they want yes yes yes yes when was it mykonos
or whatever where she was doing that um but bedroom
pop is a diy indie pop sub sub -genre defined
by artists creating music in their bedrooms or
home studios resulting in a lo -fi dreamy and
intimate sound often exploring personal themes
with soft vocals and homemade production oh yeah
i mean that explains it i thought it was like
just stuff you look at listen to like when you're
just in bed like if you're you know your kid
you're doing your homework or if you're an adult
you're scrolling on your phone and you kind of
like shimmy to it but it's not like pop where
you're like you know dancing to it or working
out to it Because I'm also the king of loving
a song if it's mid to low tempo. Like any song
where you're like, I kind of want to dance, but
how do you dance to this? That's what I like.
That's my genre. His Spotify age was 21. Because
I listened to all that. You get your music off
YouTube. I'm like, sure do. We didn't even ask
about Emma. Oh, yes. How's she doing? Okay, well,
so she's... Whatever you guys got at BravoCon,
I had last week, and then Emma has this week.
We were both sick as dogs, but aside from that,
she is having the best time. August is so perfect.
He's so cute. I don't even like babies, but I
saw August on FaceTime, and he's perfect. He's
so cute. Kenny is... He's a... i didn't think
he was gonna be a bad dad at all but like i think
he's enjoying being a dad much more than he expected
to enjoy it um but they're perfect they're so
good there's i mean there was a lot of adjustment
happening emma didn't sleep for like a week but
i think everything's kind of like leveling off
and they're having a great time and i think it's
it's gonna be really cool and jack i think is
getting used to the idea of like having a little
brother because for his entire life he's been
the absolute center of attention and he's always
been a little star so i think he's figuring out
how to share the spotlight it's it's it's been
really cool to like see how that's progressing
but they're they're having a great time how old
is he how does jack jack is seven oh okay well
then yes he's definitely been used to being the
one in a way interesting yeah and like he is
always just like i mean if you've ever heard
him like in the background of uh best year approved
like he's always just like putting on a show
when we're like when they're when we're there
and it's just like it's i don't know on some
level i think of like i didn't know him i'd be
like oh my god shut up kid but like i know him
like i know his personality so like i just i
love it so much so like he's great i think that's
the survival instinct of children is they it's
just like you know if i was just annoying people
wouldn't like me but i gotta i got to got to
be cute and people will but some don't know so
i don't understand that i that concept that's
why i too i like friends and families kids but
other strange kids i'm like no not so much yeah
they are to be like okay i'll listen to that
screaming right now yeah yeah well and i'm the
same way like my niece and nephew like they they
can do no wrong as far as i'm concerned i mean
they could like burn my house down and be like
well they were being creative it's fine and like
jack is the same way i'm like he can do whatever
he wants he can destroy whatever he wants but
like if i hear someone else's kid like screaming
at meyer or something i'm like shut up control
your kid and take it home but yeah here we are
um before we jump into reality roundup i have
a correction that i have to make for you guys
because you guys called emma and me out about
something and it was half right um i have a little
clip that i'm gonna put up on the screen and
i'm gonna let you watch it and we're gonna go
from here oh wow oh wow you let the check in
right and it's just funny for us who we do not
check bags yeah i don't I would just hate it.
Wasn't it Travis who was saying he checks bags?
Oh, I was on one of the episodes of Bestie Approved.
I was listening. Oh, like he purposely checks
the bag? Like he and Emma believe in checking
bags. Like they want to roam freely through the
airport with no baggage. I don't know that feeling.
And I don't want to know that feeling. I do not
want to wait at my destination to pick up my
bag. To watch that thing spin around. Okay. So.
Wow. emma and i do check bags and i'm going to
tell you why i love checking a bag is because
i have the delusion that i'm going to meet my
husband at baggage claim okay okay okay so it's
not solely because i like roaming freely around
the airport it's because i'm trying to find a
man so there's that i mean that would be the
cutest of all meet cutes in the entire world
oh let me just tell you i have this sick delusion
we're like it's gonna be a gray samsonite suitcase
coming down the thing we're both gonna reach
for it our hands are gonna meet and i'm gonna
be like oh is that yours and he's gonna be like
oh no maybe it's yours i'm gonna be like oh my
god we have the same taste in suitcases let's
grab dinner and then it's like it's gonna be
in a place that i love like atlanta or miami
or like somewhere stupid and that's how i'm gonna
find my husband so all right is you've answered
the question uh where's my husband that is a
very good song too yeah yeah yeah also you also
made my day because i felt like i was in a reunion
we're like let's watch this clip i'll have one
ready for every collab we do i promise i think
in all fairness i think in your episode you even
mentioned your meet your meet cute situation
that was one of your things and i just i forgot
it when i was retelling the story so i just like
i heard that and i was like i have to like drag
them a little bit for that because like i thought
it was so funny that you guys even clocked that
i have a friend who would always refuse to have
a bag he would just always be like i just you
know if i need to run somewhere i'm like where
are you running in the airport dude i've run
in the airport like once to catch a plane and
i would never oh again i'm never running in an
airport like let me just tell you something if
my plane takes off i'll catch the next one i'm
not running anywhere right right yeah it's also
weird that like to not have a bag because we
always like i travel with my c -pap so that's
always on me and then he has his messenger bag
and we we share uh one bag and so just to be
unencumbered would you be like wait where's the
stuff like i freak out like do we leave our bag
behind and it's oh it's so freeing i gotta tell
you i'm like the c -pap i i do get because like
those are like incredibly like you can't it's
like a laptop you can't check that so i'll i'll
give you that one but like not having a rolling
bag with you like through the airport oh my god
it's the most freeing thing ever i love it trust
me it's a dream that i have like i one day want
to not have that but i want to be rich enough
to hire someone to bring my luggage to my destination
and set it up like i'm diana yes well they have
to like come and like sage the room for you first
yeah did you say stage or sage because either
way it works either way why not burn the sage
and yeah um that'll be when we get our private
jet so correct me if i'm wrong but beverly hills
was like your guys's entry into housewives right
is that what you guys had told me originally
no it was probably mine that's that was the Atlanta
reunion was mine but uh but Beverly Hills was
the first full season we watched I think together
yeah yes that's true that was the year that we
uh moved in together moved in together and we
saw it in HD in uh Dorit's uh cleavage makeup
wasn't done very well you were like oh my god
that's HD cleavage anyway but like yeah oh god
sorry i think it's together probably was our
first yeah like real thing that we watched got
it because i think i remember when we first talked
like it we got into beverly hills a little bit
and the kyle and the teddy of it all and i like
looking back on it i'm like i think the last
time you guys talked about us it was like oh
we're at some point we're gonna fight about like
something and i feel like beverly hills might
be the catalyst to a fight um bring it but like
Well, watching this episode, I was like, there's
not a ton to fight about here. So how did you
feel about the premiere? Well, so I liked it.
I enjoyed the episode. What's interesting is
that this is the second time we've seen, not
the whole episode, but during the Beverly Hills
panel, which wasn't great. And Beverly Hills
is my favorite show. But it wasn't great because
it was very awkward. And I think it was a combination
of the moderator, who we didn't know, and also
the women just not being cohesive. Because I
think with Beverly Hills, there are pockets of
friendship, but they're not cohesive, like, say,
Salt Lake or whatever. And so it was just a really
awkward time. And in the middle of this, they
played the first 15 minutes of the premiere.
And it's normally fun to watch something like
this with a group of people because the auditorium
was full. It was packed because it's Beverly
Hills. But not a lot happens. Like, basically,
it left off. It ended with Sutton saying she
let Avi go. Cliffhanger. And so... There's nothing
there. Right. Like, it was like a lead balloon
because we're like... At one point, it was great
seeing them all together and seeing... the first
few moments and like those scenes like eric washing
the car and like you know them being like rich
beverly hills ladies and people like lost their
minds when rachel zoe like came on they're like
oh my god like it was screaming but it just wasn't
it wasn't exciting because the first 50 minutes
of a premiere are like let's recap let's like
reacclimate tell you where they are right now
it's not a they should have just shown the trailer
that would have been enough you know they touched
a room from a very high energy room to like here
take a nap yeah and that's kind of how this episode
at least the first half hour of it felt like
okay like with potomac the that panel they showed
the mid -season trailer which hadn't come out
yet so everyone's like was so hyped about that
because there's such a great trailer so to like
go from that to like it was like well i think
that's the thing i've struggled with with beverly
hills because like after eileen davidson and
after like lisa renna and after kim richards
have have left the show it doesn't feel like
it doesn't feel like there's drama but it also
doesn't feel like any of the relationships are
really that authentic sometimes like i like i
don't at this point i don't really know how sutton
fits into the cast anymore because it doesn't
feel like anyone really adores her anymore bows
i really really really like i don't i like i
wish she had more connections to the group because
like it doesn't feel like it feels like they're
kind of going through the motions with her and
rachel zoe of all people i would have thought
that she would have known every single person
on this class or on this cast because she feels
like such a like a big presence and yeah and
she feels like beverly hills but i'm like oh
apparently she only really knew bows so i like
and maybe that's her end but i i don't know like
i i hope that this isn't another one of the beverly
hills seasons where it's like we're trying to
find something because like i i i want to like
this show and i think i told you guys when i
originally watch Beverly Hills like I like the
idea of who Kyle Richards used to be like what
she represents of like that old Hollywood thing
or like there's a there's a lot of story there
with with big Kathy and like she's Paris Hilton's
aunt and like there's there's so much like real
stuff there that happened with Kim and like what's
happening like the the ongoing story with Kathy
that like if you if she when she lets herself
be vulnerable and like honest like there's there's
good stuff there but I I feel like I haven't
seen it from them in a really long time. I think
the last few seasons have gotten really muddied.
I think since the whole Erica, you know, Tom
embezzlement debacle, I think they got so focused
on attacking Erica. And then from there on out,
it kind of got turned into just attacking people's
kind of show. Last season, it was like, we're
going to get on Kyle and we're going to make
Kyle all, you know, like, why aren't you sharing
more? All that stuff. So I think they're trying
to get back to a place where it's a little bit
more exciting and fun. And I think they're even
kind of building that in that they're, I think,
addressing it honestly in this episode of they
haven't spoken to each other since the reunion.
And they're saying like, oh, no, I haven't seen.
So it's more that they're coming together now
that they're filming, but they're not saying
that. They're just saying, oh, we're coming together
now and we're having this party. I haven't seen
you in so long. It's almost like they're old
friends. catching up and so i think they're bringing
us with them on that journey and i i hope that
it goes somewhere nice and you know back to the
good the good beverly hills yeah it's like work
friends yeah it's like i see at the office and
during the hiatus i might text you but i might
not so but yeah it would make for awkwardness
i think in the kyle of it all i i do agree you
know she had bigger moments earlier on in in
her run as the longest running housewife consecutively
by the way sure 15 years as anybody but like
that so this is the thing with kyle is like she's
the one who gave us like that you're such a liar
camille like she gave us like she's given us
really really good moments and like part like
i kind of want to like fit like when you think
about like the psychology of all of it of like
when she thought her life was perfect and she
had the perfect marriage and she had the perfect
family it's like she didn't feel like she had
to protect that space in her life almost i feel
like so now that it's like oh the marriage fell
apart like and that sucks and now she's like
trying to figure out it seems like am i into
men am i into women and i feel like that has
to be and not an uncomfortable place to be but
you're figuring stuff out right so it's like
maybe that's why she's not giving us everything
but like when kyle gives you stuff it's so good
i like i miss that i miss it so much yeah because
i think she has like a really i don't know her
obviously but i think she's a really good person
and she is capable of being vulnerable and and
breaking down i think right now she just you're
right she does pick and choose what she wants
to give And, you know, she's not going all in
like Dorit, especially in regards to Mauricio.
So, yeah, I don't know. It's like, I definitely
hear that. And I also like hear her saying like,
what else do I need to do? Like at BravoCon,
she was on a panel. She was like, do I need to
put a camera on the toilet? You know, but it's
like, no, you don't need to like show every little
thing, but you could be, you know, there are
definitely places where you could be a bit more
revealing. But also, I feel like if you're not
comfortable with your friends to give all that,
then you're not going to do it. Like, I think
she is actually real friends with Erica. But
I think the others, it's not the same. And Kathy,
of course, too. So she's not going to give as
much, which is just, you still got to give. So
I'm more definitely coming around to your point
of view. Because normally I'm married. kyle's
my number one and i'm like you know so like aggro
would it go yeah i'm like no you have a point
so travis you have a point and it's like i don't
want to be i don't want to be right about like
her not being great but i think you you have
a point too where like i think if you're not
comfortable in your friendships you're not going
to feel as comfortable sharing and i feel like
i think a big part of the problem is beverly
hills and in orange county used to be this way
it's not that bad anymore but like it's it's
very clear that these women do not hang out in
the off season like it's it's i think these women
for better or worse are work friends and they're
they're giving they're giving what they would
give work friends so i think we're kind of starting
to see that a little bit because andy cohen said
it a million times the best shows are the ones
where you know that they are friends in real
life and like that's that's why you have potomac
that is like lightning in a bottle like salt
lake city that is like they know they know everything
about each other so you know you know it's the
real thing so i think i think you have a point
there too where i don't think kyle feels comfortable
giving everything because she doesn't she might
not trust them as much as you would your best
friends and i think that they need to have um
a couple a season where they just are No one's
just at each other. And I know that's part of
the joy of watching Housewives shows is seeing
the conflict. But I think if they have a season
or at least a few episodes where they're just
having fun and it's low key, low pressure, then
I think they can start to open up and share things
with each other because they're not going to
feel like they're on guard all the time. And
that's not just Kyle. That's everyone, including
Dorit and all that stuff. I think the other thing
that they need is, I think it's great when they
have... housewives that, you know, you'd pick
a side and you're like, Oh, Dorit's great. No,
I'm, I'm, I'm on team Kyle. That's fine. But
I think the thing with Camille or even when LVP
was there, um, there were people that were staunchly
in one corner, like absolutely in one corner
or the other, but it was also very clear. You're
Camille's an idiot. You know, even though you
might love her, you're like, she's a little,
so it was good to see Kyle. You wanted Kyle to
say. things about her you wanted kyle to come
for her whereas that's not necessarily the case
right now because you're kind of like well you
know i'm team greed i don't want that so that's
why it was the other way around i didn't watch
the lvp but when lvp was on i just know everyone
loved her so much so it was very easy to dislike
kyle if you liked lvp so also her fans were just
fat crazy rabid it's the same thing it's like
it's as bad as theresa judice's i was about to
pay their neck with tree huggers yeah yeah And
by the way, by the way, not going to get into
it, but no, I get what you're saying. It's there.
The fandom there gets buck wild. Yeah, absolutely.
But before we dive into like the entire premiere,
if you guys could bring back any housewife and
or any friend of to Beverly Hills, I have a feeling
I know what Jeff's is going to be, but I'm curious,
who would it be? Actually, no, you would think
it would be Teddy, but I think for her mental
health and for just her health overall, she's
fine where she's at with two Ts and commenting.
Like there was a point she was saying that while
they were filming the season, she and Kyle did
a photo shoot together and they arrived to filming
and Erica and Dreet were there and like Dreet's
like, Teddy, come on, come on, like put on those
clothes. Come on, come and like jump in the scene.
And Teddy was like, no, I'm not doing that. One,
I'm trusting. Two, I'm not feeling it, Dorit.
So I think overall, it's so interesting because
I feel because of her near -death experience,
people are much more welcoming to Teddy, especially
at BravoCon. She got so much love. And I think
even she was like, whoa, this is weird. But I
don't think that needs to carry on onto the show.
I would say she's never going to do it because
she's done with the show, I believe, when she
says it. I would like to have Lisa Rinna back.
same oh yeah i forgot about lisa yeah i i was
gonna say brandy but oh god okay i'd like to
see some brandy especially is not in a good place
mentally that'd be some good tv though no it's
really sad like mentally and physically she's
not in a good place she needs help so she does
not tv i think brandy two years ago i would have
really liked to have back on i but like i think
you're right i think reality tv for someone like
brandy glanville is is not a great place to be
because i think it takes every not insecurity
that's not the right word but like it takes every
like vulnerability you have and it exploits it
in a way that like i don't think brandy glanville
can handle because that's hard um Lisa Renaudel,
a thousand percent. I would love to see Lisa
Renaudel because that is someone who can do reality
TV very, very well. And she gets messy and she
gets nasty and I love it. And with her, I would
like to see Eileen Davidson because they were
good together. I love Eileen. And we're also,
we're soap fans. YNR all the way. Yes. Oh, yeah.
We appreciate Eileen. So, yeah. Also, I wouldn't
mind seeing, God, what was her name? Vidal Sassoon,
Eden Sassoon. I would like her season again.
I thought she was so, like, I didn't know who
she was. I didn't know why she was there. But
she is messy and I like her too. And a little
bit of an oddball. Oh, I had a, like, she is
odd. And, like, the, like, 90 -minute hug she
would give. I love her so much. She had been
through a lot of therapy. they were saying something
i oh i heard a clip that uh and jeff lewis was
talking to crystal and they were saying maybe
she's coming back and i'm like why on earth would
they bring crystal back i think crystal it's
so funny my spotify rap was like oh one of the
podcasts you listen to is humble brag and i'm
like maybe twice um not to throw shade i just
don't you know don't find them but i when i have
listened to them i think she and cynthia have
great chemistry i think she's great Off the show.
I don't think this was the appropriate group
for her to be on the show and another world,
another like iteration of housewives or just
some sort of like other Bravo show about LA women
who are rich. She would be great with her remaining,
not the 14 friends who abandoned her, but like
her other like super rich friends. So I think
she's pretty good TV, but not in this world.
But I think the takeaway from the Jeff Lewis
was that she's probably going to be on a wife
swap. housewives edition which makes sense she'd
be good on that too yes yes very good on that
actually like i think she's a person who because
like the i mean the whole song and dance with
y swap is like oh like i i leave and you learn
a lesson like that's that's the thing and i think
crystal is someone who can can like say things
in a way that's like honest but like makes you
think i i i i think she'd be very good at that
actually yeah and she also seems like probably
a very controlled kind of type a person so like
throwing her maybe in a household that is more
laid back would be you know similar to like wendy's
episode or anyone's episode i feel like all the
women were like so type a like melissa was just
so like i do this at this time and that time
and i'm basically and you know you watched all
those didn't you i watched like i watched a lot
of like the like stuff that came up on my tick
tock and like i um it i don't know like i i need
to like commit a little bit of time to it like
when i like after finals and stuff but i it's
just one of those things where i i just haven't
gotten around to it but like i've seen what i've
seen on tick tock i'm like oh this this is gonna
be good like it's gonna be funny like i think
wendy acefo's is probably probably going to be
one of the top ones for me because i i i love
wendy regardless of like the insurance situation
i love her so like i'd be very interested to
see like how that whole episode plays out it's
a good one that was a good one okay i think the
best one was the first one though the angie one
was the best one actually okay so now that i'm
sad i i think i would really like angie's too
i like angie k she's like i love her so much
angie k cleaning a toilet i mean it just writes
itself And wasn't it, like, an organic compostable
toilet? It was, because her family that she was
swapping, they were off the grid. Okay, that's,
yeah, they were, like, in a cabin somewhere or
something crazy like that. Yeah. Nice. It was,
like, beyond the cut. Like, beyond the cut. Nice.
And I feel like she would need that stuff. I
love it. Cool. So let's dive in. Did you notice
how... It's fine. It's fine. You guys are hung
over. I love it. Dear listeners are just like,
when's the roundup happening? This is the roundup.
The opening shots were like art. I feel like
they went with a new production company or something
because the opening shots, I've never seen them
look that good on Beverly Hills. They're so pretty.
And, like, the lighting was amazing. And, yeah,
I think there was a different production situation
going on and different cameras. I do feel like
whoever it was watched a lot of Atlanta because
there was so much slow -mo walking. Yes. I know
that's a thing. But then you get Erika Jayne,
like, washing her car. Like, I thought that was
so fun. I was like, she's never done that a day
in her life, but I love it. I'll take it. Well,
I even asked, I was like, did she rent that just
so she could wash it? And then Jeff's like, no,
no, she actually bought that for us. I love it.
But then Dorit and Bose get the opening scene
and I forgot how gorgeous Bose is. She is so
pretty. She does not have a flaw. And I guess...
bose and dorit have gotten super close and uh
dorit and pk have not been having a great time
with the divorce so it seems like bose has been
a really like incredible friend during this experience
which is not shocking at all like i feel like
i would have expected that from bose but kyle
has not been there as much and i feel like that's
also not shocking just from my perspective also
strikes me as someone who i think you burn her
she's gonna she definitely holds a grudge well
but she texted her four days later at least it
was like within the week what does she want i'm
gonna i'm gonna leave that alone i mean yeah
one of my good friends took four days to text
me you know after get in touch after i filed
divorce that would be you know also though in
her defense If I filed divorce, I would text
my friend and say, hey, so I just filed divorce
today. Just a heads up so you don't see it in
the news. Right. So, I mean, I guess if you're
not going to tell me about it and I find about
it in the news, then you can wait four days.
But yeah, but at this point, Bo's air reads ride
or die. So, you know, I think Bo's to her credit,
I think she would be ride or die for many people
that just, you know, for sure that gave her.
respect and showed like kindness you know and
like was actually genuinely warm and friendly
with well yeah i think she says like in this
segment you know if kyle were to open up to me
i would be you know there for her and have a
true friendship yeah but if not then we're just
gonna be good acquaintances and that's valid
that's a valid point you know but i think that's
something like buzz would be right or die for
me she makes me feel safe but yeah i think that's
just great about bows and i think it's something
when you see her as a viewer you're just like
oh she's just definitely a warm person who just
really wants to you know spread her personality
and she seems very sincere like and even like
in the scenes at the end like she's not bullshitting
you know right she is who she is and she i think
she is a good would be a good friend like a real
friend in real life to these ladies Oh, 100%.
And the thing about Bo is like this, the one
thing that keeps standing out to me about her
and I don't know if it was an interview or like
where I heard it, but like she talked about how
when she took over as the marketing director
for it was either Pepsi or Apple Music or Beats
by Dre. I can't remember which one, but like
she talked about it was like almost immediately
after her husband had passed and she walked in
and she was like, I can't lose. this has to this
has to work because like i have nothing else
right now and like i think that like she's been
someone that's like torn down to a level that
like i don't think a lot of people understand
so like what you're seeing i think is like is
is a healed person a and b is someone that like
is like i i have to put like good out into the
world because like i like it's just i i love
everything about her yeah that makes sense i
never really thought about that because you know
you're saying teddy and you know going through
what she's gone through i'm sure with bows and
losing her husband and everything that's got
to be a completely life -changing situation for
sure yeah um but then we head over to kyle's
house and they're like talking about uh the the
oldest or not the oldest daughter but the second
oldest daughter's engagement and the the daughters
have grown up so much and like there's like they're
all so gorgeous too like there's not there's
not an ugly person like in this group like i
like they're all so pretty just fortunately what'd
you say like four shades of kyle basically yes
yes they and they all look like they could be
kyle's daughter like and then we like get the
um the the the wedding album from like kyle and
mauricio's wedding and like i like you see kyle
who looks much more similar to like she did in
season one than she does now and i know all these
women have had work and like i i'm fine like
i love an elective surgery because i'm also on
my third nose but like kyle never needed the
work like kyle has always looked really good
so oh yeah yes oh god like she's also beautiful
um i couldn't believe when she points out that
that mauricio was 25 i was just like first off
is it just the old photo of it all that you're
just like like that man is not 25 in that photo
but okay he looks very young i think it's the
old photo of it all i'm not used to seeing you
know you see that old an old photo album that
thick you're just like okay is he from the 50s
um and then we meet rachel zoe and i forgot how
much i love her like i used to watch the rachel
zoe project like a million years ago i forgot
i really loved her a lot i did too yeah i was
like very much into i die and bananas and and
all that i feel like i did when the show ended
i did take the side of brad over rachel and that
whole thing really so i'm a i fall like brad
is just aside from being a great stylist um i
think he's just really funny when he does like
those uh parody clips on his instagram of like
beverly hills or other housewives shows and i
love his husband gary and so i'm like very you
know that's been following him on the instagram
but yeah i haven't really followed rachel at
all i remember yesha's the two sons and when
it was announced she was coming to the show i'm
like okay and it's like oh she's getting divorced
okay but i love the old clips with her and and
roger i think that's the next segment with her
that we get to yeah oh yeah that's right they
work together and oh they would fight sometimes
okay yeah okay oh the i like i forgot how bad
the fights were because like they were kind of
nasty to each other like looking back on it like
you shouldn't have your husband as your ceo of
your company yeah and the clips they showed i
never watched rachel's uh project i only ever
saw it in clips on like the soup or things like
that um but uh when they were showing him he
they definitely on beverly hills gave him the
air of what a whiny baby Like, is that how it
came off on Rachel Zoe as well at the time? I
think it was all, you know, thinking he was the
man behind her, but she got all of the fame.
So maybe he was a little annoyed by that perhaps.
Definitely. Yeah. They definitely showed he was
annoyed. but so rachel goes over to kathy hilton's
house to help her get ready for a trip and like
the entire time she's doing this i like all i
kept thinking to myself is how great would it
be to have a friend like rachel zoe just to come
over and like pick out outfits for you because
like god damn she's like no i don't like that
well first he'd probably burn my closet first
first and foremost this is not a good color scheme
yeah i have to say like the thing that stood
out for me most in that scene was how normal
kathy was being Like, how's it going? How are
you doing? What's going off, Roger? Oh, that's
tough. Like, she was being a really good talk
to and not being like, let me cut these things.
Let me, here's some jeans, Kyle. I wonder if
she got like media training or something. Cause
like the, the differences we're seeing in Kathy
right now, I'm just like, it's, it's wild, but
I'm like, she's not. crazy right now but like
and maybe this is just how she is one on one
like instead of being in a group and like needing
to pull focus but like I thought I thought like
Kathy it shocked me that she was a pretty good
friend to Rachel in that moment yeah very much
so yes yeah um so Erica heads over to Kyle's
house and they're getting ready for like a get
together at Sutton's house and then we like go
over to Sutton's house and like while they're
also getting ready for it um that party planner
was cute i liked him yes i'll agree with you
on that do you need a party planner for like
six people coming to your house i you know what
i'll let sutton have that when you have endless
amounts of well she's getting like thirty thousand
dollars a month in alimony like i she probably
has a party planner for like a brunch I feel
like she's getting a lot. Yeah. But it was the
premiere. It was for filming, for sure. So she
wanted to put her best foot forward. I think
the most interesting, it was like, yes, it's
great. You're back together with your mom and
you're in a good place, which that's really surprising
that Hell's Wives helped you get her closer to
her mom. So good on that. That can be her rose
of last season. And then Garcelle being the thorn.
Obviously. Yeah. I think my... there's interesting
thing from the scenes at the lunch at her house
was talking about the annulment and how that's
i wrote this down too i'm sorry how how is that
a thing yeah how are you married for 17 years
with three children and then the church is just
like annulled i mean i know the catholic church
can do some questionable uh things but that seems
like marriages disappear that's just so weird
i i wonder if it's like one of the things like
um they talk about it on salt lake city where
it's like you're sealed in the in the church
of latter -day state so i wonder if it's like
a similar thing to that where it's not like annulment's
just the word that they're using that that's
making it go away like it's like the unsealing
or whatever um but when like when son was talking
about this like i was just like i don't know
that i would like the marriage is over like it's
it's your divorce the divorce is final i don't
know that i would care about like the the like
religious piece of it because i i'm also not
religious so like maybe that's why i don't get
it but like the the one piece i did understand
was where it was addressed to her maiden name
and like that was like a real kick in the ballster
like i get that because it's like oh i never
existed to you like that that i will buy like
yeah i was never i'm just sutton brown and now
i'm done with you he's an interesting fellow
this christian i i don't know anything about
him like i like i only know what i've heard about
him on the show and i'm just like oh he's a rich
dick like okay yeah right but like yeah in the
way that like he just he's one of those stereotypical
sounding just like i have money and i'll you
know i'll get my way just rest assured and it's
like all right that's gross did i knock the mic
is this no you're fine okay okay yeah he'd tell
us he couldn't hear us if it stopped recording
oh i would i promise i would tell you yeah you're
good um and then kyle announces that she has
a party coming up and um we get like a flashback
to kyle and dorit fighting because she she says
that she's inviting tree and i forgot how intense
that fight was like dorit like came out swinging
like i forgot how crazy that guy They both were
about to, like, come across the table. I was
like, what is this, Jersey? Until they showed
that, I completely forgot, and it didn't connect
in my head that maybe Kyle was in kind of teaming
up with Sutton to be kind of against Dorit, or
at least for a friend in crime with Dorit this
season. Because they were at each other. Yeah,
I didn't think about that either until, like,
I was like, okay, this makes more sense that
maybe she's, you know, and Erica's there. They're
trying to maybe not. rally forces but at least
say hey you know if Dorit comes for us maybe
you know we'll get each other that sort of thing
so well I think Dorit's also probably thinking
like I need a friend I don't have Garcelle so
I'm like that she was so like excited to see
Erica in a way that Sutton's never been excited
to see Erica and I'm like okay this is convenient
but you know yeah um but they also get into a
little bit how uh sutton fired her assistant
avi and she says that nothing really happened
i simply don't buy that like i i i think there's
something else there that like either like she
was she was mean to him like she was not kind
to him and i like either he had had enough of
that and like that was that was what happened
or like there was something else like but i don't
buy that it was just like a parting of the ways
like She got asked that at BravoCon what happened
because they left it on the cliffhanger. And
some people are like, well, what did happen?
And she explained what she said. I just don't
need a personal assistant anymore. Blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah. But you need a party planner
for six people? Right. Right. My theory is he
saw how good and well -received he was on the
show and wanted a lot more money. And that's
my guess. Just think about it. People are asking
about him. Fans ask about him. I think one of
the quirkiest things about Sutton was that she
had this, you know. Yeah, butler. Yeah, man butler
and helped her around. So that was kind of, you
know, her sidekick almost. And so I think that
might have been like, hey, you know, I want to
get paid a little bit more. And she's like, you
know, I may be on the show, but I'm not going
to pay you more money just because you're on
the show with me, you know. So that's my guess.
And that's maybe why she, you know. doesn't want
to bring it up but also if i didn't realize he
was with her for that as long as she said he
was a long time i know so that's my guess is
what happened and you know i have to imagine
that if you did tell someone who has been with
you for so many years that you know i'm not going
to it would get messy for sure yeah transactional
and less of a friendship yeah so well i think
that's probably that's kind of where i felt like
it was because i think avi realized like oh this
isn't maybe maybe it's on one side or the other
one of them realized like oh this isn't the friendship
i thought it was and the other one was like oh
this is just transactional to this person like
that's i think yeah you probably have something
there actually and there's probably a wicked
tight nda or else we'd be hearing some stories
about oh all the ocean spray in her purse oh
for sure oh probably for sure i didn't think
about that yeah yeah but i didn't realize that
he was with her like while she was married even
like that long i don't recall seeing him on her
first season right she was like a friend so i
wonder if it was one of those things where they
were trying to figure out where she fit into
the cast so like they didn't give like the rest
of their lives because i because i they do do
this where it's like oh you find out that this
person has like a kid or like a a boyfriend or
whatever because like i don't think i don't remember
hearing about boze's boyfriend at all last year
either and we like got more about him so i think
it's like the introduction of of the person comes
before you know anything about them and they
also do like she was supposed to be full -time
her first season but Christian wouldn't sign
off on having the kids on the show. So it made
it so she could only be a friend because she
couldn't show her personal story. Right. Sure.
Which was then a horse. Like, thanks. We're glad
you're a full -time housewife. Here's a horse.
Hey, Kyle. What did you do? You got a horse.
Oh, I think that was Kyle's third or Sutton's
third season was when she got the horse. But
anyway. That was a good line. And the fact that
they opened with Sutton and the damn horse this
season. I don't need any more of that horse.
i don't need anymore like she was orgasmic like
i'm on a horse y 'all um but then the picture
of pk kissing another woman comes up and i didn't
love that kyle immediately jumps in and she's
like he didn't know that picture was being taken
like i don't know i should like things Things
can be left unsaid. But I think she checked herself
and was like, nope, don't talk to him. Nope,
nope, don't talk to him at all. He K who? What?
Nope, nope, nope. Lost his phone number, sorry.
No jokes, no memes. Yeah, I'm still a firm believer
of, you know, you can talk to people after they're
divorced if you were actually friends with both
parties. But I'm glad that Kyle is at least playing
down that she might still be talking to him.
Yeah, yeah. My other thing is like... Oh, go
ahead, sorry. I agree with you. She could have
kept that to herself of like, to his credit,
no, no, no, no, no. No to his credit, no devil's
advocate, just zip it. Yeah. Dorit and Kyle were
very, very good friends. I don't know that Kyle
was ever that close to PK, and I feel like what's
happening now is she's becoming friends with
PK, or her friendship with PK has deepened. because
she doesn't like to read right now like like
you know i'm being petty like i i didn't like
what you did at the reunion when you exposed
my text to erica and going into the next season
i was like well i'm gonna be cool pk just to
like spite her just be petty like just admit
you're being petty i don't know i can see a little
bit i can see a little bit like when they would
do double date dinners which seemed to be really
kind of the only time we get the impression that
they would actually hang out is when Mo and Kyle
and PK and Dorit would do dinners together. I
could see because she's already like, I deal
with, you know, Dorit all the time on camera.
I could see her being a little bit more attentive
to PK during these moments and like listening
to what he has to say and kind of connecting
more with him because she already knows Dorit
at that point. But it's so funny because she
would, after she and Dorit have that falling
out, she really downplayed how many times they
did hang out as couples. Like she was like, we
went on one trip. It wasn't that deep. Right.
So. I think there was, like, kind of, like, they
were close to a certain extent, but I think they
all kind of grew apart in a bit. Like, especially
when, yeah. I just know that, like, when we have
dinner with other couples, like, if one of them
is my friend I've known for years, I'm like,
well, I already know what's going on with him.
I'm going to listen to what she's saying or what
he's saying, you know. And so that I could think
be a thing. And also, this is the first time
I think. I don't normally notice how long winded
Dorit is. I know that's the long running joke
and everything, but in her first, I think confessional
or whatever, she was just like saying the same
thing four different times. And I was like, do
you need a thesaurus lady? Like, are you just
backstage looking up more words? And I was just
like, you need to cut it down. So I don't know
if that's how she's always been. And now I've
just noticed, but I feel like she's always been.
I promise. Yeah. I think somebody made the comment,
maybe it was you, or maybe I just had this thought.
For a long time, Dorit, people were not feeling
Dorit and wanted her to be fired. And then she
like came with this resurgence of like her first
season in terms of how she was acting last season.
And everyone was like, oh my God, we love this
Dorit. And like, she's being, she's like giving
it back to Kyle and the smoking in the car. Oh
my God. Oh, the smoking in the car. She. she
was relying on that cigarette like a crutch at
bravo con like every time she opened her mouth
there was something about a cigarette you're
like oh for christ's sake like no one on the
red carpet was like are you still smoking she's
like yes i am and i'm like okay let's not applaud
that do you like the thing about the cigarette
like and i know it's like it's a it's a weird
way to get there the cigarette i i swear to god
i think it made her relatable i think it made
her a real person because for a very long time
dorit was like the most you know you aren't getting
her real life you know like there was the financial
troubles that we weren't hearing about you know
that there was like there was a lot like that
was just being hidden from you and then like
i think you get the cigarette and it's like it's
it was the same thing with luann in new york
where like like the the walls come down a little
bit and then it's like oh i'm getting a real
person and i'm like and she's she just smokes
like the rest of us i mean not me but like god
bless like i but i love her that cigarette i
think it's the greatest thing ever there are
so many people with so many t -shirts of that
picture of her smoking a cigarette on their chest
and i'm like okay whatever um i put that cigarette
on uh the bestie approved instagram to like announce
that we were doing this collab but i was gonna
say i think she's really came into the season
really feeling herself and feeling the love and
attention she got and goodwill she got from the
fans so i'm interested interested to see how
it makes her act with this current season because
she could be a bit insufferable of being like
i'm the new fan favorite you know like i smoked
a cigarette okay that's fair yeah and then the
main road comment in the oh my god the main road
i've yes i am a big fan of the queen of sheba
comment though because my mom my mom would always
say that um and so we head over to rachel's house
and the producer asked her like do you miss coming
home to a man and rachel just goes no i thought
that was so kind i love her so much i didn't
know they'd been together for like 33 years yeah
like it was they were together adult life i think
like 17 or 18 years before she had kids like
it was they were together a long time that's
crazy well yeah but uh yeah i thought she was
being very open and you know like you do the
math with the new girlfriend oh yeah like and
i thought that was very interesting because it's
like i get like you never like when you're going
through a divorce it's like you don't want to
like just throw a ton of gas on the fire of like
people hating your ex but like i also think she
does deserve to be honest about like what went
down and i think this is her way of doing it
i i appreciate that yeah i don't think you know
much like pk i doubt we're gonna see roger on
the show especially when you have comments when
she's saying basically saying that he spends
more time with his girlfriend than his kids i
was like oh okay oh that was that's right but
like if that's if that's your lived experience
you deserve to tell that but at least she's not
she's not being nasty about it she's like it
is what it is and i think this is what i've always
really appreciated about rachel zoe is that what
you see is what you get with her and like that's
what i believe about her yeah that's true and
apparently we're gonna get a lot of really tall
platform shoes yeah lots of them i think those
are in right now are they yeah yeah they're like
it's a thing right now um bo's gonna do dinner
with erica and they're i mean that is a cyber
sore eyes they are i like i've said it every
single time we've gotten into a scene they are
beautiful like everyone on this cast is so gorgeous
but um erica starts talking about how she was
performing in london and uh it was about to be
like the show of a lifetime she was gonna give
the gays everything they wanted and she finds
out about tom gerardi getting sentenced and i
want to hear more about this like i want to hear
more about like what that's doing to her because
i think to take like let's just take everything
she's saying at base value like okay so you are
with a man you you believe everything's above
board you don't know anything's going on you
know that you have your aaron brockovich lawyer
husband is bringing in tons and tons of money
and then like the wheels fall off i want to hear
more about like the aftermath of that because
i think that is so interesting yeah to have someone
i think she's probably grieving you know of like
yes one the the marriage and the man who she
used to know who is not who she thought she knew
Yeah, exactly. And then also the lifestyle that
she once had and who she thought she was as Mrs.
Girardi. And, you know, to now like be going
off this new life and this new situation. And,
you know, I think she's doing well, but she's
talking on two tees about, you know, with Teddy
about like being depressed and therapy and being
in a really bad place and intrusive thoughts
and all that. So, yeah, I think there's. People
who think Erica is just bullshit and she's this
horrible person, I think that's not true. I think
there's many, many layers. She wasn't just this
woman living off the riches of her husband. She
wanted a life for herself and she loved this
guy. Also, let's admit it. If you found yourself
married to a guy with that much money, you were
probably... I wouldn't ask a single question.
On top of it, you'd be like, I don't have to
worry about a goddamn thing for the rest of my
entire life. You would have... planned your dream
retirement years ago and just been like i i'm
set and to have all that yanked out from under
you you know for whatever reason it's gotta be
it's gotta be crazy that's true too but yeah
what i will say though is like even more than
that like i am so interested to see like now
that like the case is closed now that like we've
we've got not all the answers but all for the
most part all the answers we're gonna get i i'm
so excited to see like how the rebuilding is
going because like what we've already seen like
i mean she was at the lowest of her low like
she was walking into like a tj maxx or something
and like i remember that like that interview
from a parking garage where she was like i don't
want to like that's just like that she was mad
and now we see her like kind of coming out of
that i'm very excited to see like what comes
next for her yeah now that now that her her backyard
is remodeled we can get some real some real information
it was the pool house the cabana the cabana thank
you casita but that's on orange county not a
casita yeah um they get they touch briefly on
erica dating another guy and i think that's kind
of exciting i i i want to see like erica kind
of be a slut i'm going to be super real like
i just want her like to like i want her to get
into like her sexual bag because like i love
her like she could do no wrong in my eyes um
but then they get into sutton and how it would
appear that like a lot of her really close friends
are falling apart or her close friendships are
falling apart they're setting satin up to be
the the villain this season also i pointed out
to jeff it was i just don't think sutton has
any friends in real life like i hate saying that
but like a lot of good friends a lot of good
friends because it seems like she was so excited
to be filming again and have the ladies over
and like she seemed especially chattery with
them and when they talked about you know garcelle
like what was going on with all that stuff she
it just struck me as she just she gets her socialization
through probably her charity work and like being
on the boards of things and that's probably why
she was so worried at magic mike about what the
ballet would think because that's probably like
her only interactions because it seems like when
she's not with her kids or her mom or with the
show she's sitting at home doing what i think
she's excited too i think those are good points
she's excited too because like the kids are now
gonna be all gone obby's gone garcelle's gone
so yeah it's like she's like i i don't know what
to do with myself i i feel like when kyle pointed
out that it was going to be an empty nest that
it was it was half it was mostly shade she's
like oh what are you gonna do now that you're
you know you're all alone in this house and then
she's turned it around to be like you know because
i am gonna be two you know but it was definitely
like kind of a dig at like you know what are
you gonna do over here loner loser girl but i
like what erica and bows are saying like we need
to see consistency from sutton like just be i
agree you i hope she's funner this season than
last because she came really hot at three for
whatever reason i did find myself and it's really
strange that i don't I liked Sutton in this episode.
Really? I don't know why. I felt okay. We're
in a good place. I don't understand why. Because
I normally do not like Sutton at all. I think
I'm still mad at Sutton for the fallout with
Garcelle. Because someone that... I have nothing
bad to say about Garcelle. And I think... What
we're getting about the fallout of the friendship
there, I don't think we're getting the full story
at all. Because we're not really getting anything.
I don't like the assertion from Dorit that it
was like, oh, was that more of an alliance or
a friendship? Because I wholeheartedly believe
Garcelle was probably a really, really good friend.
that might have not been reciprocated and i don't
like the way that they're painting garcelle because
a she's not there to defend herself and b i always
i like garcelle was one of my favorite housewives
like i i don't like what's going on with her
right now yeah i also don't like that everyone's
all surprised well what happened there it's like
what do you mean what happened she got fed up
with you then she left and sutton should have
been like wait one minute andy cohen and like
gone after just make sure like are you okay like
some sort of like i'm obligated to do this picture
i guess maybe not because garcelle could just
walk off but i'm gonna do this picture but i
wanna make sure you're okay can we talk after
this like you know i want yeah we kind of get
confirmation of that being like exactly what
you're saying being the case because jennifer
tilly gets up from like some dinner or something
and says this is why garcelle left because it's
always all about sutton yeah yeah so just i'm
on garcelle's side like a hundred percent of
that i am in that regard i i agree because it's
also it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see
that like sutton just wanted to be part of the
popular girls and was going to kiss ass until
she got there and watching that as garcelle had
to have been absolutely infuriating yeah right
um But the dinner with Erica and Bose, I like
Erica and Bose's friendship. I'm excited to see
how this blossoms a little bit because I think
they're probably going to be very fun together.
Oh, yeah. Very cool. Yeah. I like there's like
just two girlfriends gossiping. And they're two
cool girls. Like they're just cool. Yeah. But
then we head over to Kyle's party, and then everyone
starts showing up, and the morally corrupt Faye
Resnick is there, and I'm so excited about that.
With the non -Doreet Doreet. Yes. If only Kathy
had been there, she just said, I thought you
were Doreet. Yes. Oh, God. I do love a Faye Resnick
appearance, yes. I do, too. I think she's so...
i want more of her like i i like when we do get
her when she comes out and she's like yeah i
read about you in my book it wasn't anything
pejorative like i the way she's just like it's
so nasty but it's delivered in like a package
that's so beautiful i love her so much yeah like
they went up against like camille uh catherine
and like on the reg and like she holds up like
she holds her own very well yes i mean she is
morally corrupt we want to give him to the oj
of it all but she's morally corrupt yes but she's
my morally corrupt bay resnick and i love it
um so everyone's showing up um bose's hair is
down to her knees and like I think it is so kind.
I love her so much. And like, she is never missed
with the look. She looks so good. I love so much
that they were like, I don't want to give too
much Cher. Like, not that there's anything wrong
with Cher. We love Cher. We love Cher. But then
she showed up and we were both like, yeah, it's
a little Cher. Had it just been like total mid,
like center part down to her butt, then that
would have been Cher. So she had to like do up
a little bit to like make it less Cher. but like
so she goes up to dorit and says like she tells
her that she looks lighter and like the way she
said it i felt like she was speaking directly
into into dorit's soul like and it felt so kind
the way she was saying it like i i love bows
i i love her so much you're right she i think
she is a genuinely kind person so you could tell
that i don't know if you watched her show jimmy
fallon on brand that's come on a couple of times
like i haven't like paid it's been like background
noise while i've been doing homework but i i
want to watch it like and actually watch it because
i think it's going to be it's very good it's
so good because one you're seeing her like in
her element talking about marketing but two she
was like legit kind to like the contestants and
like had great chemistry with jimmy and she's
just like that's just who you who you see is
what you see is what you're getting with those
there's no like pretense it's just like hi i
keep using this microphone You're okay. It's
not normally there in your defense. I have all
the feelings. It'll be a good sound effect. So,
Dorit isn't looking for a fight with Sutton,
but, like, I mean, she says she's not looking
for a fight, but I feel like it's very much like
a knock -a -few -bucks situation. Like, when
Sutton, like, says something, Dorit's going to
be ready to fight. Don't start, and I won't be
none. Yeah. and then sutton shows up and they
talk a little bit about the annulment and like
it just gets so immediately awkward like and
i i think crystal had something when she originally
said this that like you're just an awkward person
like she brings an air of awkwardness to everywhere
she goes it's like she walks in the scene and
it's like oh oh something okay not like debbie
downer but more just like it is awkward energy
of like i don't know where i should go y 'all
I don't know what to do with my hands. My hands.
I got this flower dress. I think it's also got
to be one of those things where you're sitting
there with a group of friends and you're all
talking about a movie you just saw. And then
that one person walks in and like, oh, what you
talking about? And it's like, we saw this movie.
And they're like, oh, well, one time I saw a
movie. And it's like, yeah, but we're talking
about this movie. And now you're all of a sudden
talking about how you went to a movie 10 years
ago. What the hell are you doing? yeah it's a
non -sequitur you're a non -sequitur person yes
and i i mean it's that shit's awkward very awkward
oh yeah um then the girls get into the way sorry
what'd you say no no i said i probably just did
a sutton awkwardness right there myself but go
ahead no you've never been awkward a day in your
life maybe you're fine what would you think being
a garcelle fan of how sutton handled them coming
at her about carcel and like kind of defending
her more so in confessional than necessarily
in scene like in the crying and the what was
your take on that i appreciate the way this is
hard i appreciate the way she left the door open
like because it was like i texted her i like
because what i will buy is that it if Sutton
did something wrong, I believe either A, she
doesn't believe she did something wrong or B,
she has no idea what she did wrong. So the way
I look at that is she's coming at it from a place
of genuineness saying, okay, I, like I left the
door open. I texted her. She didn't text me back.
I texted her every day for like, for a while.
And I didn't hear anything back. And like, girl,
you blocked. Yeah. And, but then like, when you
take it one step further and she's like uh how
did she put it uh she said i i hope it was an
alliance i because like i i do not like the way
to read said that i think that she's trying to
protect like what the idea of the friendship
with garcelle was even if it wasn't if it wasn't
portrayed exactly the way it was i think she's
trying to protect that and i did appreciate that
about sudden i will say that Yeah, I agree. When
she said, like, you know, that was my best friend,
I was like, I didn't get best friend. But again,
we're only seeing a portion of their lives on
this show. I believe that they probably were
best friends in Sutton's mind, probably. In Sutton's
mind. But I think maybe Griselle, like, towards
the end especially, was like, I'm not getting
that energy from you, so I just need to walk
away from this because you're not giving best
friend in this moment. You know, you're giving
a little bit of try hard. and maybe that's kind
of where we're getting the thing like when you
when you take it forward to jennifer tilly saying
it's always all about sudden maybe sutton doesn't
realize that maybe it's like a non -self -awareness
thing and like like as far as sutton was concerned
they were best friends but sutton it was all
about sutton and like she didn't like she wasn't
giving what's what garcelle needed so i'll Maybe
there's something, and here's the thing, if Sutton
can listen to Garcelle and hear what she did
wrong, because it does sound like she tried to
reach out and say, hey, what happened? And Garcelle
just wasn't in a place to give that to her. If
she's in a place to hear it when it does come
back, I can get over being mad at Garcelle, or
I'm sorry, I can get over being mad at Sutton
for the Garcelle situation if she's willing to
fix it. No, that makes sense. I agree. But then
we get into the way Dorit is handling the divorce
and telling the kids about the divorce. Dorit
did not like this. No. Here's the thing. At some
point, you have to tell the kids. The kids are
little. Her kids are under the age of 10, I think,
right? I think the oldest is 11. Jagger's 11.
I think it's 9 and 11. But yeah, still very young.
it's still super young and like i don't know
that they're old enough to conceptualize divorce
yet and when when Mauricio and Kyle were going
through the divorce, all the kids were, I mean,
if not all of them, the majority of the kids
were over 18 and out of the house. And she said,
well, the girls just came to me and made me be
honest. And I'm like, yeah, because they read
the tabloids and they know what's going on and
they're on social media. These kids are little,
little. And like, however Dorit is handling it
and however Dorit chooses to present it to her
kids is fine. Like, I don't like the way they
did this. There's no advice to give because your
child is different from Dorit's child. And not
just in age, but also just in how the relationship
with their father or whatever. So I think it's
just, okay, that's how you're handling it. Cool.
I know. It should have just been posed as, I'm
just curious what they know. And then, good,
you told me what they know. Now let's drop it.
Right. I mean, I think the two things that are
strange there is that Dorit said, oh, yeah, no,
they know. But then, like, when they asked, well,
how do they know? She was very cagey about. oh
i didn't actually sit down and talk to them but
they figured it out and i think you know had
she just said that you know we haven't talked
to them about it but they figured it out we haven't
sat down yet but before you get there i also
think just bringing the children into the conversation
on a housewife show i automatically back up like
oh they do not do you're not gonna win that don't
talk about the children don't do it so i would
just like it doesn't go anywhere good yeah i
think it's fine to ask like how are they doing
like how are they handling it that's where you
leave it like you you leave it you back away
and you say because like this is the thing is
like it's such a sensitive subject like and dorit
is also one of these people where if you ask
her something like that and she feels an ounce
of judgment against it she will come out swinging
like because the one thing I do believe about
Dorit is she is very protective of her kids and
that's one of those things where I'm like not
with Dorit baby not with her right yeah well
it's like last year when like Sutton interrupted
Dorit when she was talking about talking to the
kids about what was going on and it was like
it was very rude I also think coming into that
scene when when Dorit said when but we said oh
you seem so like today and reach yourself was
uh no i'm not good i think she came to that scene
like not in a good place and not feeling like
wanting to like deal with this sure so you know
she just was like uh i don't want to deal with
this but what i did like is how quickly i think
just loves a new girl she like like synced up
with rachel so quick yeah the same age but she
was like oh tell me more oh oh it was like just
like bows at that party last year you're like
oh new girl yes i feel you our auras are connecting
rachel is so chic though so that might be part
of this and they look very similar but apparently
they've gotten she's as chic as the wind chimes
but this is i will tell you this is one thing
i do appreciate about to read is like i don't
feel like when a new person comes into the group
the person is ostracized by to read especially
because like this is something with housewives
where it gets very problematic when the new girl
comes because we saw it with crystal like how
just how awful they were to crystal like i i
think to read is actively trying to change that
i think that's great yeah yeah be the welcoming
committee because then you come out better for
the fans too 100 it's just the difference it's
the difference between when there's a new girl
some people are waiting for them to come to come
to me and show me why you should be on the show
versus i'm going to come to you and welcome you
on to the show yeah and i i can see the i can
see someone being either way but i definitely
prefer the way to reach i prefer the welcome
wagon to the like unwelcome wagon like vicky
was notorious for doing that with new people
she was like what are you doing on my show yeah
like well and this is the thing is i appreciate
the welcome wagon because i don't i don't buy
the whole this notion of like at like figuring
out why someone like has earned their spot on
the show because i'm going to tell the producers
figured that out like that's right that's none
of my business like that's as far as if i were
a housewife but that's just me no i agree with
that but then rachel get asked to read like if
she's bothered about pk and like the picture
of everything and like and i i liked dorit's
response to it but then she proceeds to say that
someone tried to set her up with mauricio in
i think veil or like wherever they were and rachel's
gonna be messy like i'm so excited i was surprised
by how open and like willing to like go there
she was i didn't like i didn't think she'd be
cold but i thought she would just maybe be a
bit like i'm a little aloof here and i don't
know you people as well but she was just like
getting in it like yeah someone said marisa but
i think she felt safe doing that because it was
such a like well i obviously wouldn't do that
right um and you know yeah it's a little bit
probably stings kyle to hear that just thrown
around so lightly But at the same time, it's
like, well, no, I wouldn't do that because when
I know who this person is and I know what's going
on, like, I don't want part of that mess. I think
Kyle's reaction shot was like, hmm, whatever.
I don't see it. I think Kyle was a little bothered
by it for sure. Well, it was funny on Watch It
After Live. She said, you know, and she's like,
this isn't a dig to her, but she's like, she's
too old for Mauricio. Because he's dating, like,
20 -somethings that are, like, the age of his
daughters. And he has. Yeah. So. anyway um but
that i realized we didn't get any jennifer tilly
this episode that's right yeah yeah i think the
next episode she she hosts the nude model party
at her place okay no but still i would have liked
to see her with the crown and being tilly that
would have been nice we also didn't get the new
girl who i can't remember amanda natalie oh man
i think you're right amanda amanda or ashley
something like that but like okay is is she um
like is it gonna be one of those things where
she's introduced like halfway through the season
like they've done before because that's i i don't
know like i i would i'd be very interested to
see her and also her like her husband or boyfriend
whoever she's with is hot and i want to see more
of him I think she's on Introduced next episode.
I don't know whose friend she is, but I think,
yeah, it's gonna be next episode. Yeah. Nice.
But, like, so this premiere, and maybe we've
gotten very used to, like, Salt Lake City and
Potomac premieres where, like, it is high, high,
high drama, but, like, I don't feel like I got
anything here. And, like, I hope that, like...
i hope they give us more this season because
it does feel like we're gonna get something later
but i i don't know like i i don't want to be
disappointed by beverly hills again i really
don't i can see that i felt like good about it
i felt we got eased into the new season with
this first episode and it was just like pretty
rich women doing pretty rich things but then
there's like shade here and there and some you
know like follow up on things from last season
um so i thought like it was fine for like the
first episode but i think yeah for sure they
definitely need to like bring more drama which
i think is coming um oh yeah the next yeah i
think they definitely like i said i think they
want to make go into the season and make it a
little bit lighter and not as you know gang up
pile on and i think that's probably why they
bring you know they probably realized it was
a little too light and their people were avoiding
stuff and i think that's probably why they bring
in the new girl um because she does definitely
seems to be piled on yeah i think everyone's
coming but also i think a lot of the trailer
as is prone to be is very misleading i think
when they show like kathy saying you need to
know your place i don't think she's actually
saying that to anyone in any real capacity she's
just saying you know when that sort of thing
happens you need to know your place like it's
all these things are probably are definitely
edited in a way where it's not going to be as
nearly dramatic as it's led to be but So I'm
still with you and wondering, are we going to
be disappointed by Beverly Hills this season?
I hope not at all. To talk about. Yeah. I'll
tell you that Beverly Hills is probably the worst
about like this, this whole editing thing. Cause
like with, with Salt Lake city, with Potomac,
with, I mean, even Miami, like you're getting,
like you're getting chaos in the trailer, but
like, you're still like when you see it in like
in real time, it's like. Oh, I wasn't completely
misled. Beverly Hills is bad about this, though.
Yeah. It's a little bait and switch. Yeah. Yeah.
What I'm most interested in seeing is the friendship
breakdown between Erica and Kyle and Dorit. Really?
Yeah. No, Kyle was saying on Watch What Happens
Live, she and Erica are not speaking to Dorit
right now. So... Oh. Something goes down in the
last group trip to Italy, and... Yeah, so that
scene from the trailer is real. yeah yeah we
do see because you can't edit dorit walking away
from a fight that that is that just because we
did see that yeah you're right yeah yeah so i
want to know like what happens there and why
they're not all speaking on camera yeah which
now oh god don't get me started about off -camera
like make it on camera but it also makes sense
why it was so damn awkward at the panel because
I'm fine with off -camera drama, but, like, I
want them to talk about it. Like, because this
is the thing is, like, I think what we've come
to realize, like, and Andy Cohen has said it,
like, he did not used to, like, breaking the
fourth wall when they do it. Like, it's like,
oh, this is what the real fight's about. Like,
because I feel the same way about, like, what's
going on in Potomac right now with Stacey, where,
like, something, I wholeheartedly believe something
happened off -camera with Stacey that they will
not talk about. And I'm like, we see that you
don't like her, and I don't buy that it's over
this, like, this. the divorce not being real
or whatever tell me what she lied about please
like yeah there's more to it yeah yeah but no
i think yeah i think if you can if it happens
on camera but you can you know explain it to
the audience in a good way and like really rehash
it i think that's that's best but yeah i think
breaking the fourth wall is important it's so
funny like they used to not even say at the reunion
they would say oh when i last saw her or oh in
new york and like now it's just like look we're
doing a show here y 'all yeah and like and this
is the and like i think they've come to realize
this where they're i think and maybe this is
like a me thing but and tell me if you guys don't
agree but like i like when they're honest about
being on a show i like when they're like yeah
at the reunion i like that i like that they do
that because it's like it makes it much more
real yeah agreed now i think uh secret lives
of mormon wives they talk about The fact that
they're on a show. A little too much. And it
does detract from it. So it can be done a little
overboard. They also don't have a hiatus. They
just keep filming and filming. Between seasons.
I think it's really mucking it up. It confuses
me. Making it very muddy. The problem that they're
running into. Is like. They're. genuinely not
giving themselves a second to breathe because
like the first reunion they had already recorded
the third season like it was in the can ready
to go by the time the reunion was going so they
couldn't really get into the stuff in the reunion
and then it's the same thing with the reunion
that just aired and I'm like I think that's well
it's too short and I think on some level it's
good because it's like there's a lot of content
there like these girls will never not give you
content but like i mean you you have the fruity
pebbles situation and then like and then they
like i don't i haven't watched that reunion yet
but like i don't know if we get into that and
like it just it it all feels like there's you
can't piece a timeline together because like
it's all happening so right it's hard they really
need to have uh on that they need to have a timeline
of what when this was filmed and get that better
in our heads also when you watch that reunion
you're gonna be like how is this a reunion it
was it was one it was like a it's spoiler alert
it's a it's basically a sponsored ad for duncan
i've seen that and that makes me mad it's just
stupid i don't think stassi was a bad host i
just think that she was really hampered in by
what the producers wanted her to do and she's
always a place so many places she could go before
like saying sorry we got to cut this off to do
some more spawn con for duncan you know if that's
the case either a make it a couple of parts or
b like you have to be able to cut some of that
stuff then because like what i do believe about
stassi schroeder she is built for this like this
is where she's going to thrive and i think that
like now that she's kind of moved past vanderpump
rules i'm very excited to see her like kind of
almost past the torch to like new reality stars
where it's like yeah tell me about your mess
because i'm i'm the devil so like tell me more
like i want i want more of that yeah it was funny
because at one point she's like you know people
she was talking to taylor before they started
shooting and she's like you know people say that
you're kind of like like me and they you remind
them of me and and and taylor's like yeah i've
heard that but she's like i've never seen the
show like she's never seen vanderpump and it's
like oh that's a different generation do you
want to know what i will buy about taylor frankie
paul though is i don't believe she watches her
own show like this i think what you see is not
a produced not a like not a curated it is that
is taylor frankie paul and she's not interested
in anyone else's opinion she's gonna just keep
being her and i like it i want more of that she's
just like i'm doing me and you know you catch
it you don't catch it and yeah i i agree with
you she's not watching that show like she's just
like what she doesn't even have a hulu subscription
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It's just so much fun. I'm so tired. We were
out so late last night, and then we just started
talking, and it's like, this is so much fun.
Yes. Yes. It's just so good. It wakes me up.
Love that. And also, i i don't know if i told
you guys i was planning on doing this um this
is going to be my first video uh yeah this will
be the first video because i have another one
coming out on the day jones jaw is getting released
from prison but you guys can have a video for
this one so you don't have to do only audio no
i feel so bad because i was looking through our
stuff and i was like wait a minute i don't have
any of the besties on our website because it
pulls from youtube and we don't didn't do video
before so i'm trying to find it on there because
you know you're you're a first collab and we
you know we need to have you represented on our
site too well i love it but From Indy to San
Francisco to Beverly Hills, wherever you are,
we love you. Thank you for being here. Thank
you for listening and watching, I guess, because
this is going to be new for us. And tell your
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