Hi, I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is Bestie
Approved. What's the last thing you listened
to? Save Me Tonight by Artie. It's very gay.
I love that. You listened to it a million times
when we were in the office together. Oh, I know
this song. Mine was Ribs by Lorde. Also, a little
bit gay, to be honest. Very gay. We haven't recorded
in a couple of weeks. It's been a minute. Well,
not our own podcast. Right. We've been guesting.
We did a little guesting. We did two guest spots.
So you saw the girls' room went live. Yes. We'll
be dropping that in our feed. Actually, I'll
probably do it today. Let's just be real. and
then we were on it wasn't it was a collab like
we're just gonna call it a collab because it's
both of us but we did uh husbands watching housewives
and that was super fun i I had a good time with
them. They're fine. Yeah. The only thing is I'm
like so delirious all the time, especially at
night. And they're on the West Coast. So we recorded
at like 9 p .m. our time. So I like don't remember
what I said in that podcast. You were kind of
fine if I'm being a thousand percent honest.
I had a great time with it. I thought it was
so much fun. I'm like, no, I remember loving
it and like loving them. They're so funny. But
like. I couldn't tell you what I said. That's
okay. I think the other cool thing, like, number
one, when, like, after August is here, like,
and you're not pregnant and delirious, I think
it'll be fun to, like, do bonus episodes where
it's just, like, midnight recording, best to
be approved after dark. But I also thought it
was super fun to have, like, because you and
I are, and the, Jeff and... Scott said the same
thing after they recorded with us. They're very,
very similar. And you and I typically have similar
takes on everything. It's interesting to have
two people that aren't an echo chamber. So I
kind of want to do that more. And I love that.
Do you have a pregnancy update this week? Yeah,
OK. So I got my blood work done. I'm deficient
in everything that makes the human body happy.
I'm deficient in iron, B12, and vitamin D. And
I've been taking my prenatals every single day.
I do all the things, but I just, there's a vampire
in my uterus. And so my iron was low enough.
I did confirm with her that that's why she...
ordered it this way. I had to get an iron infusion
because she was like, we can't wait for pills
to be absorbed by your body. Oh shit. Okay. I'm
on a B12 supplement and she was like, just make
sure you're like eating fruit. And I'm like,
girl, I am like, I don't know what to tell you.
I got The iron infusion last week, and I don't
really feel any different now, but she did say
like the further out I get from it, the better
I'll feel. So I'm looking forward to that. Other
than that, I'm fine. I'm tired. I'm in the third
trimester now, which is insane. Oh, shit, like
we're like coming up on it. Yeah, by the time
this comes out, I'll be 30 weeks at least. That's
wild. Mm hmm. And oh. Yeah, the other thing,
I got another growth scan for the baby since
he measured so big the first time. Yeah. We have
been bumped up from the 98th percentile to the
99th. Jesus Christ. And I don't know what it
would take for them to adjust my due date, but
they're not willing to do that. So are we at
the point where we're like accepting that you're
probably going to have to get a C -section or
are they not there yet? I feel like I had a pretty
like a regular cycle before, but it's been off
by like a week before. I think I'm like two weeks
pregnanter than they're saying I am. So there's
a potential that two weeks before you think you're
supposed to be due, like you're going to go into
labor. Yes, which would be Thanksgiving. Like
on -the -nose Thanksgiving. Oh, shit, okay. And
I have an appointment at the OBGYN the day before
Thanksgiving, that Wednesday, and I'm hoping
they, like, check me while I'm there and send
me over to labor and delivery. That is... I'm
manifesting that. What a fucked -up week to have
to have a baby, because, like, for... You don't
host Thanksgiving. Really, everyone's out of
work. So it's like everyone can watch Jack and
like everyone has leftover food. It's kind of
a dream. Oh, so you're not. Well, yeah, you go
to your dad's, right? Right. And I would never
host Thanksgiving that pregnant. No. And I told
people months ago, I'm not coming to Thanksgiving
and I'm probably not coming to Christmas. So
can we actually talk about that for a second
because I love like Dear listener you like you've
probably picked up on the fact that my family
is fucked like my family is like it's utter chaos
I love the idea of, you know what, I'm taking
Thanksgiving for myself. I like Thanksgiving
with some of my cousins. We have a really good
time together. Christmas, though, I'm not interested
in celebrating Christmas. I don't enjoy celebrating
Christmas. And last year I went and watched Wicked
and had pretzels and a Diet Coke at the AMC theater
at Castleton Square. Time of my fucking life.
Love it. There's a pressure around Christmas
that is not really present for Thanksgiving.
So I think that's the difference for me. I like
Thanksgiving and I like Christmas. I always had
good Christmases like growing up. So that's why
probably. But I like once I found out my due
date, I was like, I'm not going to bring a two
week old. No, you can't. I remember what the
end of pregnancy is like, and I'm not going anywhere
38 weeks pregnant. So like I'm out of the holidays
this year. Sorry. Well, the good thing there
is like the good thing about your approach is
probably. Like. You know how I get about people
that are like, I want to hold your baby. I want
to hold your baby. And like, it's fine if you're
comfortable with it. But like, it's even more
fine if you're not comfortable with it. Because
like, like my sister in law was this way where
she was like, I don't want anyone touching, kissing
any of that with Amelia and Alexander. And I,
I 1000 % supported that. Like, and I will never
hold that against her. I think if you bring a
two week old to Chris with a newborn, it's like,
oh my God, a baby! Right, and then I look like
the bad guy for being like back up off my baby.
No, you don't know that's fucking insane. No,
they forced you to be like the one who has to
say it. OK, I see what you're saying. I already
have the hormones of a teenager going through
puberty times a million. Like, I don't want to
have to argue with you about touching my baby.
And also, like, I'm just not into it. I'm just
not into it. And I do believe in like Your baby
has to gain an immune system somehow. So you
can't have like the super sterile home and like
keep them inside for months and months and months
and months. But also when they're brand spanking
new, like that's a different story. You need
to protect them. Well, and I've also, you know,
I don't really love babies to begin with. Like
it's never been my thing, but I've also I've
always found it very weird when. People are so
into like I want to hold this newborn and I want
to learn I'm just like that's not your fucking
kid leave it alone Yeah, I mean I love holding
a baby babies are warm and cute and whatever
I get it I do but it's like It's not a secret
that you're not supposed to kiss the baby like
and you shouldn't have to wait for someone to
tell you that you grown woman like I don't It's
weird to me I like this idea of wanting to kiss
a baby I'm like I'm not it's not my thing and
like I want the grandparents to come hold the
baby and hang out and like You know my close
immediate family, but I don't want to Bring him
to a room full of 30 people who don't know if
they're sick or not because you don't know until
after the thing always as how it always works
out, right? I Like I just don't want to risk
that especially in the winter when everyone gets
sick anyway, like Leave me out of it To grow
his immune system. It'll all be great. You're
on a percent taking the right approach Can we
also talk about iron for a second? Emma told
me that she was getting an iron infusion and
I was like, oh wow. And so I started doing a
little. Googling, I took to Google and I said,
should I take iron? And it was like, probably,
yeah, you should take some iron. So many people
are iron deficient. Yeah. So many people. And
I got an iron supplement from the Amazon and
I am not shitting you. Like I took one on a Sunday
and then one on a Monday and Monday I was rip
roaring, ready to go. I was like, look at God's
great state of Indiana. I'm at Indiana University,
Indianapolis and I am ready. to learn like I
was ret to go and so I think I might have been
iron deficient honestly a lot a lot a lot of
people are and you need a lot of iron like a
lot for you to not be iron deficient it feels
like you would have to eat so much spinach and
stuff that like you're doing it on purpose you
know what I mean yeah but why is it like I guess
for me I don't I don't get why It's like I don't
know I like you know I don't really understand
health and like whatever and it probably comes
back to The classic American diet where we're
simply 90 not eating enough of the rice. Yeah
Yeah, I think I was iron deficient also. So there
we go. 100%. Probably. They put me with enough
iron that they told me I can't get an MRI for
three months. Isn't that insane? Like I would
blow up the machine. Yeah, because it'll like
that's you can't go into an MRI with like a nipple
piercings or whatever because it will rip it
like directly out of your nipple. It's probably
the same thing. But that is so kind. I know.
Well, this is like it wouldn't be like my veins
are pulled out of my skin. It would be like I
would make the imaging really cloudy because
I'm metallic. Oh, I love that. You're like Iron
Man. Have you seen on Twitter Gavin Newsom is
dragging everyone straight to hell? Yes, and
I'm living for it. I think it's so funny. I.
I go back and forth with this because. You remember
the Michelle Obama thing that was like when they
go low, we go high, right? And I was like, that's
great. I love that. But at the same time, I'm
like. I don't know how much higher we can go
as a party, and I think like. I think it's like,
you know, you got to play the game and. So Gavin
Newsom is taking to Twitter and he's just. tweeting
in the style of Donald Trump. And I think that's
like, that's the kitsch of all of it, right?
The problem that I'm having is Fox News saying,
well, it's funny when Donald Trump does it. But
when anyone else does it, it's not OK. And I
just I'm not I don't like it. It's unbecoming
of a politician. And I'm like. Like, are you
that dim that you can't see it from the other
side? But also, are you that dim that, like,
that's the point? Like, that is what Gavin Newsom
is trying to... I'm pretty sure. Like, I can't
speak for Gavin Newsom. Yeah, he's spoofing.
I don't know if you saw it. It was, like, in
the last day. I'm on his Twitter right now to
look at examples. And in the last 24 hours, he
has posted an AI picture of himself as a king.
Shut the fuck up. I didn't see that. No, yeah,
because it was just yesterday and it was like
yesterday afternoon. But it's he's doing a spoof.
It's the space balls of politics. He's making
fun of Donald Trump. Yes. And that's that's it's
supposed to be funny. And like I don't for the
life of me, I do not believe that Gavin Newsom
is out here being like, OK, my tweets are to
be taken seriously. He knows what he's doing
because I like you say what you will about Gavin
Newsom. He's a smart guy. And to to think that
like the other side is like. Well, that's not
OK. And I'm like, then why do you accept it from
your guy? Why is that OK? Yeah, there are so
many parallels. It's Donald Trump always said
sleepy Joe. And now Gavin Newsom is calling Trump
dozy Don. You have to be literally not paying
attention to see that it's a joke. It's a joke.
And like what he's saying is. He alluding to
something more serious and like these are his
actual takes when you dig into the bottom of
it. Yeah, sure. Like, you know what I mean? He's
not saying things he doesn't mean necessarily,
but the way he's speaking is exactly like Donald
Trump. He's using the all caps. He's doing all
of that. Yes, it is. It is in the style of Donald
Trump. And that's what I can't get is like. I
think the problem that I have and it's like,
you know, just in life, this is something I'm
wildly uncomfortable with is a double standard
or hypocrisy or like whatever we're calling it,
because it's just like, if you have a standard,
you have to apply the standard across the board
to everyone that you are holding to the same
standard. I simply can't get it. It's like when
people talk about how they say the left is non
-critical of their own party. I'm hyper critical.
I would argue that I'm probably more critical
of Democrats than I am of Republicans. Right,
because I need you to stand for what we actually
stand for and not just say whatever you want
under the guise of being liberal. Like, I don't
get it. It's funny. Let them continue. Also,
whoever's working in that press office, they're
slaying. And I know they go home at night and
they go. I know that Gavin Newsom or his chief
of staff, who I don't care who, but they hired
some 23 year old and they said, can you be messy?
And they said, mm hmm. I'd love to. It's like,
you know, just some little kid from LA. I love
it. And here's the God's honest truth. Gavin
Newsom, your bestie approved. There it is. Yeah,
I hate to say it. Your bestie approved. I don't
know that much about you, to be honest, Gavin
Newsom, but this this particular stunt bestie
approved. Yes. And it doesn't hurt that he's.
Pretty handsome for an older gentleman. He is
very handsome. He is. I like his hair. Oh, yeah.
Mm hmm. This one's a throwback, but like this
came up on my TikTok recently, and I forgot that
this happened. Do you remember Lady Gaga going
to the Capitol after January 6 to look for evidence?
Yes. The funniest part about it for me was her
tone, because her tone was like. she was disappointed.
Like she was disappointed in them for doing that.
And she was like, like a mom who was like, I
must see what happened here. I think it represents
the beginning of a very, very weird time in America.
And I think Lady Gaga was feeling a lot of things
that like a lot of people were feeling at the
same time of like, I have to have an answer.
Like I have to be able to rationalize this. I
have to be able to come out on the other side
of this, right? I desperately want to know what
that conversation looked like at home, though,
where she was like, hang on, hang on, you guys,
to her team, to, I assume, the six gays that
she has constantly around her. She said, you
guys, let's charter the jet. Let's go to Washington,
D .C. I'm going to land in Dulles Airport. I
am going to go to the Capitol. I'm going to put
on a bulletproof vest. Because someone was going
to shoot. little Lady Gaga. And this was like
Sherlock holming around. But this was like a
week later, so ostensibly they had it all cleaned
up, I would hope and assume. And she said, Mama,
let's research. She said, boots on the ground.
I need my boots on the ground. I'm going to.
I am Hercules. I am Sherlock Holmes. I will get
to the bottom of this. I guess my question for
Stephanie, if you're listening, we love you.
Just know we love you. We love you more than
most people. But Stephanie, lady. What were you
hoping to find? Evidence. Of what I'm not sure.
It's so funny, but like, I just, I needed that.
Like, and I'm glad that it popped up on my TikTok
when it did because like we... have been in a
dark place politically the last couple of weeks.
I won't get into it. I simply do not have it
in me to devolve into that place. But Christ
Almighty, I'm so glad that that popped up when
it did because I hope Lady Gaga found what she
was looking for. Honestly, the funniest thing
she could have done. Like, I would expect her,
because she's always very vocal about politics
and standing up for what is right, I expect her
to post and be like, I can't believe what I'm
seeing. Absolutely. Oh my god. What I did not
expect was boots on the ground. I imagine her
like, she's tiny. 4 '11", I think. Yeah, she's
four foot, she's less than five feet. She's...
90 pounds soaking wet. She's such a little person.
And I imagine her with like a magnifying glass
just walking around being like, nothing here.
She had a black light and a little duster thing.
Like looking for fingerprints. She's like, there's
still shards of broken glass from where they
busted in that window, you guys. Let's go. I
love it. Oh my God, I needed that. Okay, next,
have you seen? Listen, I'm not sure you're gonna
like my opinion on this. Get into it first. There
is also on my TikTok, there is a phenomenon of
people that do not believe Helen Keller was a
real person or one of two things, she either
A, was not real or B, was lying about all of
it. What's your take on this? Here's what I'll
say. Well, I think it's inspiring and I never
want to come off as ableist. People with disabilities
can do lots of amazing things, lead very normal
lives, lead extraordinary lives. With that being
said, no one has. ever been able to explain to
me how she wrote the book. Quote unquote, wrote
the book. I imagine my book. I mean, 14 books.
Sure. That's a lot of books. OK, OK. Working
with sign language. So I will say. When it comes
to the books... I would imagine there was probably
a ghostwriter involved. There couldn't have not
been, right? Right, and that's my point, is that
allegedly she is blind and deaf, only knows sign
language, and she wrote 14 books. Okay. I think
perhaps maybe she launched ideas or said what
she would like to say in a book to her helper
lady who then wrote the books. Oh, absolutely.
I assume that's what happened. But no one has
ever... I have looked. I have scoured. I did
it again this morning before you got here. No
one has ever been able to explain to me how the
books were written and that is where it starts
getting suspicious to me the flying the plane
thing I believe because I Someone was giving
her instructions like lean it left lean it right
sort of thing. Do you okay? But also like how
do you hold? I'm sorry. How do you hold the controls
to an airplane and then also you're blind and
you're deaf, so you have to touch Braille to
hear what people are saying. How do you do that
all at the same time? I don't know. There was
a co -pilot. I assume what happened was I've
been in one of these little planes that she flew
before. She had someone sit next to her who was
like, actually, who is who said, OK, you take
the controls for a minute. Like I've my uncle
Roy had his pilot's license, and that's like
that's how he that's what triggered him to be
interested in it. Right. There was someone there
that was like, oh, if it goes left, I can take
over. Like, and I imagine that she probably flew
the plane for. 30 to 90 seconds. And it was like,
wow, look, look at that. And I think that the
story of Helen Keller is inspiring up until where
it leaves off in school, because a spoiler alert,
Helen Keller was a huge fan of eugenics. Huge.
Yeah, no one really talks about that either.
And from from my digging that I figured out.
Helen Keller, I guess she was raised by like
one of the lead eugenicists, like people in the
country at the time. Yeah. And then later in
life, she renounced all of it. Like, that's fine.
But for a big chunk there and it's where the
story leaves off is like, like she figures out
how to say water. And then Annie, the miracle
worker. I don't know what Annie's last name was,
but. She gets a lot of credit for everything
that happened. And to be fair, I imagine that
it took a lot of work to get to that point. So
100 % she has to like go off of touch for everything,
which is insane. I can't imagine doing that and
accomplishing that. And I'm not trying to take
away her accomplishment of learning sign language
when she can't see. Like that's a dedication
that I'll never have. But. Carl, 14 books. I'm
just going to go out on a limb and assume there
were a lot of creative liberties taken in those
books. And that's fine. And here's the God's
honest truth. That's fine. If you want to take.
This is people are going to be mad at me for
saying this, but I imagine the same thing happened
in the Bible. where a lot of creative liberties
were taken in the bible yeah the man locked himself
in a room and said i got this no one worry about
it and he wrote down what he wanted to write
well yeah you're talking about king james but
like i'm talking about before that where like
the like oh uh -huh what is it that However many
books are in the Bible, whatever guys were writing
it, apparently speaking to God or like watching,
whatever, whatever. You know, religion's not
my thing. I assume that what God told you is
not exactly what got written down. All right.
How could you even be expected to remember verbatim,
number one, but also number two? Maybe they assumed
people would understand hyperbole and we didn't.
Like, we don't know. Or maybe it was just an
idea from God or from Helen Keller and it got
expounded upon. The thing that I struggle with,
though, is like it is a very ableist take. Not
not with you, but like with what I'm seeing on
TikTok. of saying there's no way she could have
done anything. And I'm just like. No, she like
the brain is wired to learn language in certain
ways. So, like, if you figure out what water
is and you do the like the thing in the palm
with with the hand, the sign language. They're
like, you can build on that, like, like that
the brain is wired to learn language. So. If
you figure out how to teach language in that
way, that's fine. But to say that she could have
never done anything, that she could have never,
never figured it out. I mean, there are blind
and deaf people today that you can look at and
they're living full lives. I don't know of a
lot of them that are blind and deaf. No, it's
increasingly rare, yes. I do think it's insane
to generalize and like the people who will literally
just be like Helen Keller wasn't real or whatever.
Like, obviously they know that she was real,
but like she didn't do any of those things. It's
crazy because like you can't just assume that
of a disabled person. I agree. And like that's
where I'm just like, oh, we can't we just can't
give anyone anything. No, and that's why I was
very careful with how I phrased my opinion on
the matter. Because while I believe she was extraordinary,
she was incredibly smart for learning sign language.
And she would have to spend hours feeling people's
hands, I would assume, to figure out how to hold
her hands to say something. Right, right, right,
right. And that's insane. I could never do that.
But at the same time what you have to understand
is Helen Keller's family had money like They
had the resources to pour into making sure their
daughter who had scarlet fever at I think it
was nine or ten months old could live as Quote
-unquote normal of a life as she possibly could
Yeah. I mean, yeah. They heavily invested into
her and it was dumbfounding to watch. Why do
you think we're still talking about her? How
much later? Like a hundred years later? When
is this? Before 1915 or something like that?
She died when Huck was four years old. So yeah,
about a hundred years old at this point. Yeah,
and we're still talking about her because, like,
that's insane that she was able to communicate
at all, let alone fly a plane or have an idea
for a book that she could communicate to someone
or anything like that. Right. That's insane.
That's why we're still talking about her. Yeah,
but Helen Keller. You, at the end of your life,
after the eugenics thing got over with, you're
bestie approved. You're skipping over that part.
But, I mean, she did denounce it, so I do appreciate
that, but God, like... Eugenics, not bestie approved.
Eugenics is bestie denied. Right. However, overcoming
society's ideas of you and... you know, not being
pinned down by your disability is bestie approved.
Absolutely. Are you ready to complain before
we jump into Reality Roundup? Yeah. You go first.
I have so much to complain about. Do it. Aside
from being pregnant and the whole thing, I'm
so annoyed. And I think it's because it's football
season. I can't stand it anymore. You know, I
really can't do it. I can't do it. It's Monday
night and or Thursday night, literally like last
night. And my boyfriend gets in bed and I'm like,
let's watch our show that we're watching. We're
watching Seven Deadly Sins for anyone who cares.
I've already watched it. It's great. He gets
in bed and he's like, no. I have to watch the
game. Oh, Jesus Christ. Can I tell you? Gun to
my head. If you had asked me if Kenny cared even
a little bit about football, I would have gone
to my grave because I did not think he cared
at all. He absolutely does. He idolizes Baker
Mayfield. Is this the Tampa Bay Buccaneers household?
For now, it is while Baker Mayfield is playing
there. It's a whole thing. And he's in fantasy
football. That's really what I'm complaining
about. Here is not football. It's fantasy football.
Because once you have fantasy football, you have
to see how all the little players on your little
team are doing for your fantasy. And now you
have to watch every single game, even the games
that without fantasy football, you would not
care about. Do you remember at our last firm
when we were in the second circle of hell and
we did the fantasy football draft? Yeah. And
I simply said, I'm only picking guys based on
how hot they are. I don't know what position
they play. I said Jimmy Garoppolo right there.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of hot guys who
are like they play defense. It's unfortunate,
because you can't choose them. I had Kenny write
me a list of who I need to... I remember this,
yes. Yeah, it didn't pan out for me, but that's
okay. That's okay. You know what I didn't do?
Watch every fucking football game of the season
that year. I did not do that. And so, like, when
it's teams I know he doesn't care about, he only
cares because of fantasy football, I make him
watch it on his phone. I love that. Do you want
to know what I didn't do after we did our fantasy
football teams? You didn't check it once. I know
you didn't. I said, I don't know what website
to go to. It was Yahoo. It was Yahoo. And then
you pressed sports. How was I supposed to know?
It's okay. We know what I handled. Um, yeah.
I don't know, I think I ended up like fourth
or fifth or something, I don't know. I know I
ended up dead last. Yeah, but that's okay. I
think John came into our office and he was like,
you realize your team doesn't even make a functioning
team, right? And I said, mm -mm. Nope. Well he
was trying to tell you one time too that like
a guy you had in wasn't playing that week it
was their bye week so you need to switch in with
someone on your bench and you said no. I do remember
him saying that and I said okay. Like what does
that have to do with me? I said I guess he's
sitting this game out then I don't know what
to tell you. Okay, I'm complaining and I feel
weird about complaining about this But it's all
I have to complain about because I don't know
I can't get into politics right now. I feel ugly
I'm with you. Yeah. Well, I'm pregnant and so
everything's huge I feel huge every time I look
in the mirror I'm like girl and then I was laying
in bed the other day Sorry, I took your complaining
segment to complain about me. No, don't ever
apologize for that I was laying in bed the other
day and Jack was hanging out with me and he said,
he pointed to my under jaw and he said, do you
know you have this? Adoption. You know how much
I love Jack and. I don't know. I don't know if
he said that to me, if I would have been able
to handle that. I think I would have been like,
go to your room. As not his father, as not his
uncle, as his mom's best friend, I would have
been like, get in your room now and do not show
me your face for the rest of the time I'm here.
OK, so like the only thing that excuses it for
me, I think, is because. He's noticed the change
like a year ago. I didn't have as big No, of
course not. So I think he's just like you look
different sort of thing. Sure This comes back
to a thing where you've talked a lot about this
where it's We've become so comfortable as a site
as a society commenting on the way women in particular
look and I think about when I was at the Kesha
concert, and I ran into someone, and I hope she
listens to this, someone that I hate, and you
know who I'm talking about. Oh yeah. Someone
who I wouldn't piss on if she was on fire. Someone
who I actively went out of my way to make her
feel uncomfortable because of how she treated
you and me. And I said, you know what? Whatever
and she came up to me and she goes You're so
skinny the way and the way she said it. It was
not I know it wasn't a positive thing is like
I like I'm just like I don't like the comments
about like the weight loss in general, but like
I You know like on this like health journey I've
been on I did lose a lot of weight and I got
to the point where I was like I'm starting to
look a little sick. So like I pulled back on
the weight loss piece of it now like I'm working
on like bulking up and like whatever and then
I looked at the pictures from the Kesha concert
and I couldn't even post them on Instagram because
I was like oh I look sick like I look sick I
look like when I'm smiling you can see that I've
like lost weight because like there are lines
like on the cheeks where like there used to be
fat so like I just feel very ugly and like I
decided to like turn this into a little bit of
like a silver lining thing. I want to do a glow
up between now and the end of the year. I think
you look perfect and you look beautiful, but
I also want you to feel happy. My thing with
like a glow up is that anytime I hear the word,
I just see like tens of thousands of dollars.
I don't know why, but for me, I'm like, oh, this
needs to be an expensive. No, no, no, no, no.
I like I mean. Dear listener, you know this about
me at this point. I feel like we've talked about
this. I've had I've had my I'm on my third nose
at this point. I've had filler. I've had I've
had Botox. I've had Botox, Botox and filler super
recently. Like I don't like to go overboard on
it because I don't I think and there's nothing
wrong with this, but like I feel like Filler
on guys tends to either. Like you, if you go
overboard on it, it tends to be very feminizing
to the face, which if that's the look you're
going for, that's I don't care. Like, I love
that, but it's just not I don't like the way
that would look on me. So like I've done that
very sparingly, but like I don't want any more
of that. Like I'm just talking about like I want
to focus more on the gym. Like I want to. I guess
double down on skincare. I don't really know
what it looks like and I guess I have to figure
out like what specifically I don't love about
the way I look but like and maybe it's just like
I'm in a place where it's like I'm surrounded
by like nothing but hot guys on Instagram and
Oh, it's so easy to start being like, oh Like
as a as a woman, it's so easy to be like, oh,
I don't look like Alex Earl or like, oh, Whitney
Levitt, for example. Oh, Jesus Christ. She's
amazing. How do you look like that? It's so easy
to be like, I'm just the ugliest cow who's ever
pegged. But I also think for you specifically,
like and for any woman, any woman in general,
but any woman that's like pregnant. I think it's
very, very easy to be like, wow, my body's changing.
And like, I think you lose sight of like, I'm
literally growing a person. Like, I'm like, I'm
harboring a second person in me. And like, that's
that's. And like, at the same time with me, I'm
like, I lose sight of the fact that I'm like,
fuck, I lost 150 pounds. Like, there's there's.
Like there's some success there, but I'm just
like, okay. So like, we just have to like fine
tune a couple of things and like, whatever, but
I don't know. That's just, like, that's just
what was on my mind this week. I think that's
a fun little project though. Yeah. Yeah. I love
a glow up in a, like after I have the baby, obviously
I'll need to like. Tighten it up. I'm saying
like my I've you know, pushing the baby out is
not gonna get rid of my arm fat It's not gonna
get rid of my double chin. You don't have arm
fat. What are you talking about my upper arm?
Hold on Please look at this. It's like extreme
And like, this is just how my body reacts to
being pregnant. It was the same thing with Jack.
I got huge, but I delivered a healthy baby. And
a few years later, I lost all the weight. But
like, it's fine. Well, right. So society doesn't
really give you the grace for that. Right. They
only focus on like, oh, you look so good, you're
so skinny, like this, that, and the other. Or
they make it a negative thing where it's like,
oh, you're so skinny. And I'm like, well, now
I'm going to call you a cunt. Right. There must
be something wrong with you. Oh, my god. What?
Say it. I was going to talk about Dancing with
the Stars at the beginning of our reality roundup.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me just jump to part of
that right now. Do it. At the first episode,
Jen says she is now eight weeks postpartum. She
pushed out a baby eight weeks ago. That's, which
I mean, the math actually works. She has like
a newborn baby and I checked her Instagram and
everything. I guess she did get pregnant later
in the season. So, okay. And I think the turnaround
on putting that season out was pretty fast because
they had just Like heard that they got on Dancing
with the Stars at the reunion. Remember? Yeah,
she was still pregnant at the reunion. I guess.
Yeah, I guess that adds up. Yeah. That stomach
is flat. She is jumping all over the place. I'm
like, girl. Well, she was tiny to begin with.
Like she was itty bitty. And I think she just
has the genetics for it. And it's her third one
in the past three years. So like she knows exactly
what she needs to do to like whip it back into
shape. But it's like. the most extreme and like
outstanding thing I've ever seen. Yeah, my eyeballs
go on there. Are you her keeper? Yes. Anyway,
um, no, she was. What was the last thing you
said? It's just, like, amazing how skinny and,
like, agile and flexible she is. Well, yeah,
she bounced back from the pregnancy very, very
quickly, because I've seen... I don't watch Dancing
with the Stars. Like, it's just never been my
thing. I've only watched it because of, like,
who the contestants are this season. I haven't
watched it in, like, 10 years, otherwise. Anyway.
Right, but, like, I thought it was incredible
how quickly she bounced back. And at the same
time, I... She looks... Good like the hair this
like it's all working like so I don't know if
she had a little Something done or like if this
is just like the the glam from the show like
she looks really good She seems like happy to
like I think that's part of it. She doesn't seem
like distressed anymore Maybe that's what it
is. Maybe she just looks happy Beautiful. Love
it. She looks great. She looks great. I think
most people look best with like their natural
hair color anyway, but I don't. But no, no, I
hate my natural hair color. Oh, sure. I think
it's totally anyway. But yeah, I was just. I
don't know. Obviously, I can't say anything about
it. I was never denying her Ecuadorian roots,
but I also didn't know they were there. So. OK,
Jen. OK. You know, if you want to go on a dancing
show and be like, this is my time to embrace
being Latina, like, I kind of get that. Sure.
A lot of the dancing is comes from that part
of the world and whatever. But yeah. God, Jen.
Well, I guess we're jumping into reality round
out there. Yeah. OK, so. I need to talk about
Dancing with the Stars. I guess that's like the
best place to do it since I was just talking
about it. Whitney is amazing. Like, amazing.
Yeah, she's like a real dancer. I want to say
she's like... actually a trained dancer. Yeah.
So they said like she went to a school that's
like direct rivals with one of the pros on Dancing
with the Stars where she went to dancing school.
Really? Yeah. Okay. Okay. And her name is also
Whitney. Very, very weird. Anyway, she is stunning.
She is like out there living her best. She looks
great. She looks snatched. Wow. Wow, wow, wow,
Whitney. Robert Irwin. Love, love. He's so good,
too. He's so good. I feel like Robert Irwin is
one of these guys that, like, it doesn't matter
what the task is. He's good at everything. Like,
he just strikes me as that kind of guy that's
never been bad at anything. He's just like his
dad. And he... Like being a good guy really like
it. You can forgive a lot, but like you don't
have to forgive it with him because he's good
anyway And he's just a good guy like I love Robert
Irwin like I'm so glad he's doing a good job
even like every side interview I've seen of him.
He's just like so Cute I want to squeeze them
someone was like what are you looking for like
in a partner? You know you're still single you're
getting to that age whatever and hopefully me
he said genuine kindness I just want to hug him.
I just want to hug him Did you know? I didn't
know because like I said, I haven't watched Dancing
with the Stars since I stayed the night with
my grandparents when I was a kid. Bindi Irwin
like won the whole thing years ago. I feel like
I did know that. Yeah. So like they just can
dance down under. I think. I don't know. You
know, we have like four listeners in Australia
also. So yeah. Tell him I said mwah. Or share
us with your messiest friend down there and we
can come do a live show and we can meet Robert
Irwin. I really think I would be starstruck.
There are not a lot of people on this earth I
would be starstruck about. Robert Irwin would
like catch me off guard. I think Robert Irwin,
but like. At the same time, like, yes, he could
catch you off guard. But at the same time, I
imagine that he's just like, no, no, no, it's
fine. I'm going to be your friend. You know,
I can't do it in Australia. No, I feel like he
would make me feel safe. But like, I'm obsessed
with the Irwins. I watched Steve Irwin's show
growing up. I watched Bindi Irwin's series on
TV. I love them. And so I just feel like I would
be like, it just. The family, the entire family
just strikes me as a good family, like a family
that's never had problems, like they never fought,
like there's, there's nothing bad. I love it.
Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Um, yeah. So like this
cast of Dancing with the Stars has really gotten
me into watching Dancing with the Stars. They
have only been two episodes so far. Maybe I'll
jump into it then. I might watch it. Very into
it. It's on Disney Plus, right? Yeah. Okay, I'll
watch it. Side note, went to see the Demon Slayer
movie. Tell me everything. It's a three -hour
movie, which I normally would complain about,
but they paced it so well, like I never got bored.
I was never like, when is this gonna wrap up?
Like, it was good. It did remind me of why I
never go to the movies, though. Because... people
talked the entire time. I hate that. And like,
I think part of that is a product of COVID, where
people just don't know how the fuck to act anymore.
I think also it's like There's been a shift in
parenting, and I'm not necessarily talking about
gentle parenting, but it's where you sort of
idolize your kids. And so you never tell them
to shut up when they're at the movies. And so
now they're going to the movies as like older
teenagers, young adults, and they feel like if
they don't share how they feel after a scene
ends, they will wither away and vanish. And I
can't stand it. For me, I think, like, just The
way I grew up, when you went to the movies and
it was dark, you shut the fuck up. Movie theaters
are a little bit to blame too, because they used
to punish you for talking during the movie. They
would come shine a flashlight in your face and
be like, if you're not quiet, I'm going to have
to ask you to leave. And then they would ask
you to leave. Oh, yeah. They don't do that anymore.
It's part of the staffing issue. So Romaine,
from Derek and Romaine, her wife. Ran a movie
theater in New Jersey and she talked about like
it was so impossible to get anyone to work there
because I'm Pretty sure it was AMC. They only
pay they paid the minimum wage. It was like in
New Jersey minimum wage I think it's like 12
or 14 dollars an hour, but even still it's not
a livable wage. So like you You can't get people
to do that job. So they're just like, OK, we'll
we'll eliminate that role from the repertoire,
I guess, and only have people the concession
stand. And now we're suffering the consequences,
mama. And I do mean suffering. But the last time
I went to the movies was I think when I saw Wicked
on Christmas and like. It. Most of it was fine.
But like and I like, you know, I've I don't ever
go to the movies by myself. Like this is a new
phenomenon for me. But like I went by myself
and I was sitting next to. A couple on one side
and I think two sisters on the other side of
me and or two, like maybe they were just friends,
I don't know, but it was two women. And the couple
was silent the entire time and like the two women
were like. what what what I don't get what's
going on and like that kind of conversation doesn't
bother me but like the needing to talk through
an entire movie is so aggressively annoying and
it's so like what did you come to the movies
for right this is not your living room so like
and it's demon slayer so they're they're fighting
right and What is the point of someone getting
hit by a sword and then you saying out loud to
a hundred other people that you don't know? Damn.
What do you get from that? What do you get from
that? You are not interesting enough. No one
asked for your commentary on this. Do you know
what I think part of it is is like this? It's
the meme of the guy who's like got the glasses
on and he's got like this pointer finger in the
air and he's like. I have an idea and it's like
that like that meme of the millennial, but like
I think that's what they're trying to do. It's
not funny. No, it's annoying. The cheering thing
when the good guy wins at the movie theater has
gone too far. We don't need to be cheering. We
don't need to be cheering. Never in my life.
Never in my life. When I went to see Wicked,
there were people cheering. And I was like. Cheering
for what? The movie ended in a weird place. Yeah,
I don't remember. But I was like. Can we all
just shut up like I will if you will mama and
it's like one thing for me to be like oh Well
people opening the wrappers of their candy is
too loud and is bothering me. Whatever like that's
on me What's actually not on me is the fact that
you are having a full -blown conversation about
the movie that we're all trying to watch While
we're watching it like you have to be quiet.
I can't do it It's that's a big one And the other
thing that genuinely bothers me, I don't even
know how we got to movies and reality round up.
But the the other thing that bothers me and like
this is a thing that I think has gone a little
too far is like the phones at movies where it's
like people can't put the fucking phone down
for a period of two or three. Like in the case
of Wicked, like Wicked was to be fair, like.
two hours and 58 minutes. Like it was a long
movie. That's the same runtime as Demon Slayer.
Right. I didn't see that many people on their
phone and in fact there was one guy who like
accidentally turned the flashlight on and I can
tell he was embarrassed and like tried to like
get it under control as quickly as possible.
That's fine. That doesn't bother me. That's an
accident. Clear as day. And if you need to like
turn on the lock screen for a second to make
sure your whole family isn't dead, fine. But
like you don't need to be texting. You don't
need to like do the whole thing. But it's like
you have the nerve to scroll. Oh, Jesus Christ.
That's what I'm saying. Exactly. Yeah. Like I'm
just like, why are you here? Like, first of all,
the movie going experience will like it is not
the way it used to be when we were kids. It is
it will cost you no less than fifty dollars a
pop every time you go to the movies. Right. And
you go in, you are here for an experience. And
it's like. You have the audacity to scroll. Are
you just that wealthy, mama? Like, I don't get
it. I don't know. Like, there are so many websites
you can illegally stream this movie. Like, just
do that at home so you can scroll and talk and
do whatever you need to do. But you don't need
to be in a movie theater. Okay, anyway. Anyway.
So, for today's... Real Housewives of Salt Lake
City episode we're jumping back into season one
from where we were gonna pick up where we left
off before the season six premiere and Because
the season the episode two of season six was
it was good. Don't get me wrong. It was really
really good, but I think I want to see the fallout
of Lisa Barlow and Bronwyn first and then Have
like the whole picture of it before I start commenting
on it Yeah, I also just like we went we did the
season six premiere with Husband's Watching Housewives,
which was great and fun. We already talked about
that. But we were still in season one last time
we talked to you. Like in the last episode of
our podcast alone, so we'll just maybe we'll
finish out season one and then jump into season.
I think that's the way to do it. Yeah. Cool,
so we're back and it's weird like it's funny
the crossovers because like you Were we talked
about in the in the premiere where Angie Kay
said and D Have you picked up on like Angie Kay
is always Angie Kay. Do you know why we talked
about this yet? Angie Katz and Avis it was a
friend of I think in season four and She was
trying to get on the show when Angie Harrington
was also trying to get on the show. So there
was Angie K and Angie H, but Angie H never came.
She came to be, but like Angie Katz and Avis
is just still Angie K. It has a ring to it. I
like Angie K. I'm not mad at it. But Angie K
is not around for this. But so OK, back to season
one, episode six, Sundance City. We head over
to Jen's office and she's roller skating around
and this place, this has to be like one of those
like co -hatch places like you and I were originally
talking about like hosting the podcast and like
having our little office out. Like this isn't
her office, right? You, I can't imagine it is
because what would she need all that space for?
I don't know. Right? Right. I don't know. But
she explains that normally they would be on conference
calls planning and forecasting and I truly forgot
how much she tried to sell this being a real
business. She's like, well, obviously we're having
fun at Sundance. Instead of like, because like
in the real world, it doesn't matter what's happening
in the city you're in, you still have work to
do. What do you mean? Whatever, we're always
doing our own, Jen. Okay, Jen. And then she reminisces
on Stewart just getting absolutely blasted at
a Sundance party and finding his rapper, Aldriga
of Stew Chains. And I would like to meet Stew
Chains, if I'm being a thousand percent honest.
A hundred percent. I actually I would like to
meet Stewart, too. I would like to talk to Stewart
as Stewart and then get him to turn into Stew
Chains. I have questions for both of them. I
have a lot of questions for Stewart. Number one
being How are you not in prison? Yeah, how did
you get away with that money? Maybe he had a
deal like if you testified that type of thing.
I imagine that's exactly because he was, I think,
one of the last ones to flip his his plea to
guilty. And. But like the whole thing was like,
like if you if you go in and look for it, his
case is still open and he's still awaiting sentencing,
like he still has not been sent. Yes. I just
assumed he had a deal where if he testified against
Jen, they would let him off. Well, granted. He
has more things going on than we know about.
I think so. Oh, Stuart. Oh, Stuart Smith. We
go over to see Lisa getting ready for a bunch
of parties that Lux Marketing is hosting and.
Say what you will about Lisa. Literally, you
know what? I feel like she's very, very, very
good at what she does, and she seems like she
really, really cares, and she's all in on the
event business. I think she's very good at that.
Yeah, when you see her in her zone for work,
you're like, OK, yeah, she means it when she
says. She has a lot going on and she's busy and
she's booked. Right. Well, she's talking about
how she's only like running on one hour of sleep
and like, can you fucking imagine? running around
Park City and like doing the whole thing and
being that exhausted and it's like, okay. Like
I can imagine that because I've had a baby. I
can imagine running around and having to be functional
with one hour sleep. But to do it in full glam
in a cunty little outfit with five cameras in
your face? No. There's no way. I mean, she has
to be running on so much caffeine. There's no
way. And maybe a little extra. Maybe. I mean,
I wouldn't blame her. They get in the U -Haul
when John drops off a bunch of furniture and
Lisa says that she has to go and send wires to
get a bunch of stuff done. And like this was
a trigger for me because I know that this is
a thing in real estate and it's a thing in event
planning. Like I get that. But during our time
in finance, like. The way that like major transactions
were hinging on us entering a number correctly.
Oh, yeah. Well, I do know the wiring thing is
it's a it's a requirement per like title companies
for real estate transactions. The title companies
want to wire because they want the federal funds
or the whatever the fed reference number. Yeah,
they want the fed reference number. They want
the wire. They want the paperwork that goes along
with it. Basically, they want all the all the
details that you're you can put along with it.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. So no, that's why that
works. I don't know why it's always wires for
event planning. It's event planning. It's legal
settlements and it's real estate. Those are the
three big ones. And event planning feels like
that should not be on the list. Like, why can't
you? And I get like Part of it's probably because
it's like, okay, I have to have this money and
like, I have to know that it's cleared funds
showing up. So like, I know that I'm not on the
hook for this space I'm running out, whatever
the case may be. But I'm like, Jesus Christ,
why did you not send this wire a week ago? I
was like, you could have handled so much of this
days, weeks ago. Right. You could you could have
avoided the twenty five dollar wire fee. I don't
know. That's just that's like that's a weird
thing that I picked up on. But I was like, all
right. But seeing them drive around in the U
-Haul together, I like their marriage. I like
their relationship. I'm like, you guys really
like each other. You can tell they're very comfortable
together, too. Like, neither of them is like
harboring any type of anything. They're just
like very open and honest. Well, and I think
we got a confessional with John by himself. He's
just like, yeah, I work for Lisa, like whatever.
Like, Lisa's my boss. And I thought that was
really cute because I think It has to be hard
for for a guy who is who is part of the Mormon
Church, who is like in Salt Lake or in Utah,
like to say like, yeah, my my my wife runs the
show. It's not me. I think that's really cool
of him. He has like zero toxic masculinity to
him. He's like. I like how my family runs. I
like that we get to do this and that. And I like
that my wife is in charge of it. She's good at
it. So what? I agree. And also they eat a lot
of fast food. And I love that. I love that so
much. It's so cute. Also, I like, I was looking
at our notes and I was like, God, there's some,
I accidentally put two episodes on here. So don't
forget about the amount of notes that are on
here. So Jen goes over to Whitney's house to
hang out in the hot tub and they get back into
the Mary situation. Did you notice or like clock
at all, like the size of Jen's earrings like
those? This is the thing with earrings in general
for me, like when you get to like those huge
earrings that are so heavy, I'm like. What make
them out of fucking aluminum or something like
that's insane. It just makes the shape of your
earlobe look so weird. and like, you can tell
it's stretching and you can tell it's not comfortable.
That's where it like, I'm like, wear your heavy
earring, wear your big earring. But like, if
it starts making your earlobe look too long,
hang it up, mama. I don't know. And I think for
me, Jen is obsessed with talking about Mary,
like. I can't figure out what it is, because
I know it's not the hospital comment at this
point. She will not drop it with Mary. And it's
to the point where it's exhausting, and part
of me wonders, did they just really want an enemy?
Did they really just need someone to gang up,
or not gang up on, but I think Jen is trying
to get people to gang up on Mary. I think maybe
not even just for the show. She's trying to get
people to gang up on Mary. She's kind of like,
I'm done with Mary for whatever reason. She wronged
me. I don't like her, whatever. And so all of
you need to sign up, sign out to unsubscribe
because you can't be my friend if you're Mary's
friend. That's her whole thing. She's like, I
have to keep talking shit about Mary so that
people understand they can't be her friend. But
surely to God, it's not over the hospital smell
comment. Like it cannot be over that, right?
I think that's where it started. And then Mary
wouldn't actually apologize for it. And Jen was
like, OK, watch this and started trying to turn
everyone against her. That's weird. It's weird
to me. I mean, you're not wrong. We go over to
Meredith. No, I'm sorry. Whitney. Where is? OK,
just kidding. So they're getting ready for Justin's
birthday. Sorry, I like went too far in my nose.
Everyone's getting ready for Justin's birthday
party. And we go over to Mary's house where we
learn that Mary's aunt is her housekeeper. Mary
doesn't know about that. Oh, my God. Sharlinda
is Mary's aunt. Mary doesn't know anything about
Sharlinda's life. She's not interested to know
anything about Charlotte. She's like, yeah, she
comes and cleans my house. I really don't know.
She said she cleans my house. I pay her rent.
Oh, yeah. And we're related. I don't know. Sure.
Yeah. I'm sure she has kids or something. She's
so weird about it. I don't know. Which makes
me think. Mary, I don't think Mary likes her
family. I think this individual. Sharlinda got
in good with her because she like, I remember
Mary saying like, she came over, she fell in
love with Robert Jr. and then she just never
left. I think that was the end. I think the rest
of the family, like I think it's a lot like part
of my family where we just some of us just don't
talk to each other. I think it's a lot like that.
And I would imagine it all stems back to the
marriage. The marriage. Yeah. Right. I think
it's unfortunate, but yeah, that's the vibe I
got is that her family doesn't really talk to
her or like see her much because of the marriage.
And I do feel like maybe Sharlinda started off
as like a nanny for Robert Jr. And then she got
on the payroll and just never left. Sure. Which,
whatever. That's a big ol' house. It's a big
house, but like also, is she like also a nurse?
Why's she always wearing scrubs? I don't know.
I don't know. I thought maybe. Maybe she like
got scrubs to work in so that she didn't like
ruin her clothes cleaning with like bleach and
stuff. I don't know. I don't, that's, I don't
know. Okay. That's one of those things where
like, cause even in season six, like when Sharlinda
is bringing Mary's bags out for the RV trip,
she's still wearing scrubs. She's just like,
okay, whatever. Maybe she isn't like a license
nurse. Maybe she like. takes care of Robert,
I don't know. Or maybe she just likes wearing
scrubs, and there's nothing wrong with that.
I mean, I hear they're very comfortable, and
again, probably get to clean in. Yeah. I don't
know. We head over to Whitney and Justin's house,
where Justin is doing shots out of Whitney's
belly button. Have you ever done a body shot?
I love, yes, of course. I'm just making sure.
Have you? Oh, absolutely, when Talbot was still
open. Oh, I've had body shots done off of me.
I've done body shots. I was the biggest piece
of shit garbage whore at Talbot. I loved it.
I was a monster and a demon in Louisiana. And
I was quick to lay down on that bar. Oh, and
the way that like Talbot leaned into it, they
would hire the hottest, most toxically straight
guys at Talbot to like be the bartenders. And
they'd be like, for an extra dollar, you could
do a body shot off of me. Like that was like
on the menu. And I was like, fuck, yeah. Take
take five. Yeah. Lay down is going to be a long
night. But actually, though, I love it. They
die. We go back to these girls loving a party
bus in Salt Lake City and they head over to this
lady, Catherine's house. Jen pulls out a wad
of cash and she starts fanning herself with the
cash. And I don't like this. I'm just like, I
don't like this display of like, I need you to
know I have money, especially knowing everything
we know now. It's icky. It is icky. That is someone's
social security money. 100%. I will say like,
I don't know. It's like, I see what she's doing.
She's just like... I'm the Beyonce of Utah. Jesus
Christ, yeah. I don't know, I think she's so
silly. Would I ever actually be friends with
Jensha? No, but I think she's wonderful television.
I love watching her. I think that if I lived
in Salt Lake City, you would hate a million percent,
you would hate it, and I would be friends with
Jensha. Yeah, I would hate to live in Salt Lake
City. I would not get along. I do not feel welcome
in Salt Lake City. You would hate my friendship
with Jen Shaw because I'd be like, she's so amazing
and fabulous. And you'd be like, Travis, stop.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I've always loved
Jen Shaw and I know that she defrauded old people.
And I'm sorry about that. But like, she's so
fun to watch. She is very fun. And I think I
think that's part of the struggle with her. Right.
It's like. She's she did categorically bad rotten
terrible things She has redeeming qualities though.
Yeah It's kind of like you have to watch a car
crash Sure, yeah, but I'm thinking like She did
really really bad things like Bernie Madoff is
another person who did something similar to this
not a single redeeming quality So I don't care
if he I don't know if he's still alive or not
Don't care don't care But like I that's the struggle
is like Bernie Madoff was never a good guy Jen
Shaw, I think on some level had good qualities
fucked up a lot though I like her as a person
like her personality is so fun. Yeah But like
why'd you do that? Or something But so they're
going over to this lady Katherine's house And
we get to her house, I feel like she was 100
% supposed to be one of the housewives and I
wonder why she didn't end up on the show because
the house is so insane. It is, it's crazy. Yeah,
and she's one of these people you could tell
as money. And I want to live with her. I want
to be her best friend. When I see giant houses
like that, I'm like, just let me move in. You'll
never even know I'm there. I'll clean your house
for you. I will sneak around like a little rat.
You don't even need to know that I live there.
Yeah. But we're at the party and Jen and Mary
get back into it and the grandpa fucker comment
comes up and... The thing that I struggle with
with Jen is she fully denies saying it. She has
zero accountability in her and I think that's
where we get to the crimes of it all too is she
just cannot hold herself accountable. Do you
think she like disassociates from it almost like
she's just like oh no like that was really bad
so like I couldn't have done that. I couldn't
have done that. I don't know. I've never been
in the mindset. I'm such a neurotic person. I
always think I did worse things than I actually
did. So I cannot get in the mindset of doing
these awful, horrible things and being like,
no, I didn't. I can't imagine thinking that.
It's wild to me. I can't imagine. But it is so
funny to watch. You're on camera. And to be fair
to her, in this very specific instance, she was
wasted, like blasted. I don't think she knows
she said it. Right, and like, I don't know. I
think she just... If she has any inkling that
she said it, she's just like deny, deny, deny.
She said, no, no, no, no. Couldn't have been
me. How dare you. I was possessed. We. Oh, sorry.
OK, so we head over to Meredith's store and we
find out a little bit more about Park City Fashion
Week. I. I love what they're trying to do here.
That's really, really cute. Do your Park City
fashion week. The thing that I'm I understand
where Brooks is coming from. I don't like the
way he goes about it, where he's upset that his
dad won't be around for the fashion show. Brooks
likes to emotionally manipulate people, especially
his parents. Oh, he loves it, especially his
parents, because it's like I do understand being
like, oh, I wish my parent was here to see this.
accomplishment of mine sure but the way he calls
his dad and he's like hello you've wronged me
like i get that my feelings aren't important
to you dad bye well he's so mean to his dad and
it's like and his dad is very apologetic it's
not like his dad is like yeah sorry so i'm not
gonna make it But at the same time, and Meredith
does acknowledge this and like I when when Meredith
gets into it, like my heart broke for her because
she does take a lot of this on his guilt. But
it's not because he doesn't want to be there.
It's because Seth and Meredith are going through
a divorce or a separation, but like they didn't
know where it was headed. And. I and to be fair,
Brooks is 21 years old and like I remember I
was a little fucking demon monster at 21, too,
but. God, like, can you not just say, like, there's
more going on here? I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. And like, spoiler, but he's showing
one tracksuit. It's not like he's put together
a collection that is his life's work. Like, not
to shit on him, but it's like everybody already
has the tracksuit to his other thing. Yes. He's
seen it. Your dad has seen it. I think. The tracks,
I think the tracksuit is really cool. I think
I would wear the Brooks Marks tracksuit. It's
cool. It is. I think. I think what Brooks was
trying to do was a more avant garde art thing
rather than. A full blown fashion show, because
like he is he has designed stuff since then.
I think this was his first foray into it. I think
this was like getting his name out there, and
I think that's really, really fucking cool. And
I think that. I mean, you and I aren't fucking
designing anything, so like, yeah, Brooks, go
for it. 100%. I'm not trying to shit on it. No,
I'm just like. And I also think this was a very,
very convenient thing to partner with the I assume
the Sundance committee when they're throwing
the Park City Fashion Show. I think this is a
very easy thing to say, oh, yeah, let's get Brooks
to put his tracksuit in there. That being said
Do you really have to go for your dad like that?
Yes like It was hard. It was hard to watch and
like I I Didn't love Seth in the first season.
I he took a while to grow on me Like I actually
felt bad for him in this moment. I was like fuck
Oh, I love him now. I think he's amazing now
I think it took me a minute for me to like him
because I was just like what the fuck are you
doing? You're so annoying. Yeah. Yeah Ugh, your
big lots. Yeah, anyway, that was weird. And then
we have Lisa. Yeah. She literally hosted the
McMillions premiere. I never realized that. Like,
how cool is that? Yeah. She's sick. I love her.
Jack and Henry are back home eating beat ups
with their babysitter. And the babysitter's like,
do you want to FaceTime your mom? And Lisa fully
just blocks the call. She's like, I'm okay. She's
like, mm, you can figure it out. Call the police,
do not call me. Whitney and Heather go to Punchbowl
Social. Have you ever been to Punchbowl Social?
It sounds so familiar that I want to say yes,
but like I can't remember. They have one at Circle
Center Mall. That's what I thought. I don't know.
I want us to go there and perhaps host an event
because I... Like it's fine. It's really fun.
I feel like I have been there, but I just can't
remember Yeah, but they get into how the Mormon
Church has lobbied the state legislature and
created a very limited environment where alcohol
can be served and there's a lot of rules like
you can't have more than two glasses per person
on the table or more than one glove You can't
you can't have more than one glass per person
on the table. You can only do a single pour.
It's wild and I'm just like, why do you care
so much? Don't forbid a girl have a beer and
a shot. It's weird. And then Heather gets into
her marriage a little bit and explains how she
chose her lifestyle and religion over love. And.
She's she's gotten into this a couple of times,
but I feel like the more and more she opens up
about it, like I think it's still very raw for
her. And she tells Whitney how she really, really
wants a relationship and where she wants to feel
seen in that relationship. And Whitney gives
really, really good advice and kind of gives
Heather a little tough love thing where she's
like, stop making excuses. I feel like you're
making excuses. Like you have to you have to
want this and you have to like put yourself out
there as someone who wants this. I feel like.
Heather just has these confidence issues, especially
in this season, I think. Oh, yeah. Where it's
like she's so insecure that, like, she can't
even admit what she wants out of a relationship
for fear of, like, her not deserving it almost.
And I just can see it all over her face. Do you
know what it reminds me so much of? Like, it's
not the same thing at all, but I think there
are parallels there where... Do you remember
on secret lives of Mormon wives where they're
doing the lingerie party and It was Leila who
like she was like I like when my partner feels
good and they're like what feels good to you
and she goes What do you mean? Like it's like
that thing of like I'm a woman and I can't be
honest about what I want out of life in general
Like it's so fucked up And it's so sad for Heather
too, because I'm like, she's so amazing. She's
so cool. She could find such a cool guy who would
take care of her and make sure that she's heard
and seen and whatever. She doesn't even need
the money or anything like that. And she deserves
all of that. God forbid. But she can't even say
that out loud. And I can see it all over her
face, because as a woman who is... dealt with
myself and also other women, you can see she's
like, I don't want to say that I want this Prince
Charming of a man because I don't think I deserve
him. Why? And it's like, come on, girl. I want
a fucking Prince Charming. You're a business
owner. You're a hot mom. You're on TV. Like,
come on. And you're cool. You're just fucking
cool. God. Yeah. But we. We got a Jen hosting
a premiere party for her cousin's movie. I think
the movie was about her... Like he was like doing
something with South Central LA or something,
which I think is cool. Jen looked incredible
at that premiere. Like, god damn, she looked
good. Yeah, she slayed. And I don't think I realized
how big Jen's house was because it looked like
there were a million people there and it didn't
look like they were all like smashing together.
Like, yeah, I think even if her house. Her house
looks huge. Don't get me wrong. It's also like
very open. There's a huge open space. Right.
Right. Yeah. It's all a very open concept. But
like, I think this is like a thing in like in
all these shows we've watched and well, I mean,
I say all these shows, Real Housewives and Secret
Lives, where I think there's just a lot of space
out there. So the houses are just big, like because
they not one of these people has a small house
and they're never like, Well, that's not true.
A couple of them on Secret Lives are. But most
of the time, like pretty spread out, not in like
a neighborhood like mine. You know what I mean?
Some of them are like, Jesse's house was in a
neighborhood. Jesse's house and I think Lisa
Barlow's. Lisa Barlow's house is also Meredith.
Meredith's not in a neighborhood. No. Whitney's
definitely in a neighborhood. Yeah, but like.
Like Whitney's neighborhood, for example, you
can tell the houses are like it's a neighborhood,
but they're really like far apart. They have
big yards. Yeah. But and you can also like Whitney,
Whitney Rose's neighborhood. Like you can tell
it's like a brand new neighborhood. Yeah. So
you still have tons of open space. Yeah. But
I mean, good. I say good for her, but like good
for. Good for this house, I guess. I don't know.
For Coach Shaw. Good for Coach Shaw. Heather
shows up and tells us in a confessional that
she's always looking for sex. I love that for
her. Like, I fucking love her. I love her in
her casual sex era. Let me just say that. I hope
it makes her happy and gives her everything she
needs. Lala and Katie show up and... I don't
think. Yeah. Well, they are. They're both from
Utah because Lala, I think, grew up in Park City
and Katie grew up somewhere. But I knew she was
from Utah. I just like I'm so used to seeing
her in L .A. Yeah, it felt like a weird crossover,
though, like it didn't feel. It didn't feel out
of place, but it didn't feel like this was the
right place. But I guess they they both know
Whitney. So maybe that's the connection. Yeah.
And it was a little weird for me, like watching
it now, because of the whole like everything
that's happened with Vanderpump, I'm like a different
person. I don't know what life is holding for
you. Yes. But I will say, like with Heather,
like looking for a guy, Jen's a really fucking
good wingwoman and fine. Like she Heather says,
oh, that's a cute guy. And Jen says, let's go.
And Heather speaks game like Heather's like.
Like she's like, get this puss. I loved it. I
thought that was incredible. I love how like
she's like vulnerable and a little insecure around
like her friends and her cousin, whatever. But
like. Put her in front of a man. She's like confident
as fuck. And it was hot to watch. I was like,
I wish I could be like that. Like, because you've
seen me flirt before, like never anything like
that. I was like, God damn. Yeah, she was very
I loved it. I loved it. And then we go to Jesus
Christ. I forgot about this scene. Meredith and
Brooks are getting ready for the fashion show,
and it's the most chaotic thing I've ever seen
in my life. It's a comedy of errors And then
she's on the phone. And like, now that I think
about it, yeah, they were renting, but like,
she's on the phone with maintenance and I'm like,
what the fuck is happening? She's like, the fire
is going off. The toilet is flooded. There's
poop on the floor. I'm literally just going to
leave. She's like. She said, Hi, sir, it's Meredith
Marks. This is urgent. Why does this left my
house? Like I cannot handle that. No, but the
thing that makes it worse is Brooks asks Meredith
4 ,000 times if he was or if she was cooking
something and then Meredith gets to the point
where she's like no for the fourth time no I'm
not cooking anything and I'm like God. Brooks
is like a little immature for his age. A thousand
percent. In this season at least. But do you
know what this scene told me? They a thousand
percent are a screaming household like you and
I grew up in where like they're always screaming
at each other. 100%. And it's so funny because
like I can see, like Meredith is normally pretty
like soft spoken. Not with her family though.
But you can see that she's like yelling from
the kitchen to get everyone's attention and whatever.
And not like screaming, like fighting, like just
like it's a loud household. I don't think they're
arguing. Brooks, I do not think they're arguing.
Brooks is very comfortable talking to his mom
any type of way. Oh yeah, he doesn't care. What
did you think about the video that Seth sent
for Brooks? I think he's trying. I thought it
was so sweet. I thought it was amazing. Again,
it goes back to what we were talking about before.
I felt like he shouldn't have felt obligated
to do that. I think he would have done that out
of the kindness of his heart. I don't think he
felt obligated at all. I think he was... I mean,
he was very clearly walking through an airport
and he was like, oh, let me send this to my son
to know that I'm like, I want to be there with
him. I love him. And he did like the Dr. Seuss
quote, which I thought was so cute. And I was
like, that's amazing. If I'm just looking at
Seth, I loved it. I think it was so sweet. He's
obviously a really good dad. He obviously does
want to be there for him. What ruined it for
me was the way Brooks had treated him leading
up to that point. Yes. It would have been so
much more genuine, so much of a like a cryable
moment almost. Oh, I see what you're saying.
And Brooks had been such a little dickhead to
his dad about it. Well, that brings me to my
second half of what I was about to say, where...
Brooks is so comfortable throwing himself on
that cross. It's fine. My feelings don't matter.
He clearly did this because your feelings do
matter to him. He didn't have to send you anything.
He could have sent you a text that was just like,
good luck, thumbs up emoji. He didn't. He sent
you like a heartfelt message about how he wished
he could be there. He acknowledged your feelings
even. I don't know. And then we get to the end
of the episode where it closes us out with Meredith
giving us a confessional where this and this
actually made me cry, like where she's super
emotional and talks about how her kids are the
most important thing in the world to her. And
she starts crying and they were like, well, why
are you getting so emotional? And she's like,
I messed up and like, I don't want my kids to
ever hurt. And like I started crying because
I was like, you and I are both products of divorce
and I was like No one ever cared like that about
me and like that's a big deal. Yeah And it's
very sweet and I do see where She's coming from.
I just hate that she feels that way. It's not
her fault like first of all The kid you're talking
about hurting is grown. The kid you're talking
about hurting doesn't care if anyone else hurts
And he will be just fine. Right. And also, it's
not your fault Seth wasn't there. It's not your
fault any of this is happening. Like, every relationship
goes through ups and downs, girlfriend. I agree.
And I hate that Brooks made her feel that way
a little bit. I think Brooks wanted to protect
his mom. Like, I do believe that's genuine. I
don't think he realized how acting the way he
did towards Seth would impact Meredith. Yeah.
Like that sucks. I know. And that's like what
makes me so sad. I'm like, you're being such
a little dickhead to your family. You're literally
hurting everyone around you. Right. And by the
way, to have a mom like Meredith Marks, what
a fucking dream. Like, can you not just appreciate
that a little bit? Yeah, I would like to have
like Brooks too, honestly, because my mom is
so cool. Oh, no, like I like if I if it were
me and like I was like out of I was hosting a
fashion show with Meredith fucking marks Like
are you fucking kidding me like anything you
can't like I don't care if my dad's there. I
don't need my dad to be there I have Meredith
fucking marks here Anyway, that's but yeah, that's
the end of episode 6 and that's the end of this
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