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I'm Travis. I'm Emma. And this is Bestie Approved.

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We're back with Husbands Watching Housewives.

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Potomac has begun. I'm so excited, you guys.

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I'm so fucking excited. It's been great doing

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podcasts with other people and getting out of

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our own little routine and stuff. It's been fantastic.

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So for us, especially to be able to do this again

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so soon after the Salt Lake premiere, this is

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fantastic. I was so worried you weren't going

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to want to come back on Best We Approved. I thought

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you were going to be like, that trash. Please

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don't listen to them. That trash. That trash

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box. Yeah. Well, that's why you had to go to

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Sing Sing because of the hot box. Is that where

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Karen was? Sing Sing? Sing Sing in Virginia?

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Sing Sing in Virginia. I don't know. Sing Sing's

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not a real place, is it? It was a real place.

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Is it still open? I don't know if it's still

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open. It was a real prison, but it's definitely

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a prison of Karen's generation, I would say.

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What's a prison by us? Or in this... Area of

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the North Bay. We don't really have a prison

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around here. We're near Folsom Prison, I think.

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No, the other one. Oh, we're near San Quentin.

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San Quentin, yes. I work across the highway from

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San Quentin. It's still open. That's where the

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murderers are. You give them a little wave when

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you drive in. It's got to be rough on them because

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it literally is sitting on the bay. If you have

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a window, it's this beautiful view of the bay.

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You're like, oh, I'm stuck in here for my bad

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decisions. Anyway. Sharing with other people,

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you guys. I love that. Kiarna. Kiarna has to

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shower with other people. The way that they...

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I guess we're just going to jump into it. The

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way that these women... What they were worried

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about with Karen being in prison was wild to

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me. I was just like... Yes, she does have to

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shower with other people. She also had 40 UIs.

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I mean, Christ. Yeah. I did feel like they didn't

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want to sit there and just be like, well... Good.

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You know what I mean? They still want to be her

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friend and that's what makes me think she's coming

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back. I mean, obviously she is since they were

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filming outside her release, but... I'm sure

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they were preparing for all eventualities of

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like, we can't talk too much shit about her because

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this will happen and if we don't talk enough,

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people will accuse us of being too nice to her.

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So yeah, they were trying to cover all their

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bases. I think just like me, No, please go ahead,

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please. Just like they picked up cameras for

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that short moment to have them react to her being

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sentenced, I think they will pick up cameras

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to have maybe a little Giselle -Karen scene,

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perhaps, to tack on to the end of the season.

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Oh, you're 1 ,000 % setting up for that. And

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perhaps an Andy -Karen interview, one -on -one.

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That's my guess. Maybe. So I was very interested

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coming off of it because I watched it live and

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I turned on Bravo and I caught the last 15, 20

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minutes of the reunion. And the way that they

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were dragging her at the tail end of that, just

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like talking about this man that saw Ashley on

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the train and was talking about like, oh yeah,

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she used to come in and day drink at this restaurant

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all the time. And I was just... Like, I was like,

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oh, I mean, she's she's shameless. She'll be

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able to come back from it. But like. Like, does

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she want to? I don't know. I don't know that

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I want to. My question is, why are people like

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seeking out Ashley Darby to tell like horrible

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things about their cast mates? I have a feeling

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Ashley Darby is the one seeking. well no because

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we also they whatever the tj's friend or whatever

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who was just like you guys look i i don't think

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you could just like seek that out like i don't

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think she's walking around an event going do

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you know tj do you know i don't know maybe because

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she's so approachable right Did I send you guys

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my notes from this episode? Yeah, well, we saw

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them. We definitely looked at them. And man,

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I have to say, I was a little nervous after our

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last episode together. So I didn't know what

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to expect, obviously. I was like, you know, how

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is this going to go? Because we don't really

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take notes. Right. And so we didn't know like

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how we were going to really be like doing like

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an actual recap, like kind of scene by scene

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and stuff. Yeah. One, thank you for taking great

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notes. And then also just reading through your

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notes. It was just like, yes, that was insane.

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And that was silly. So we appreciate you walking

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us through all of it. Yes. I feel like we talked

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about this last time. I take notes like the way

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I think. So like I literally start, it's starting.

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And I was so excited. So good. Well, we can't

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just jump right into it. We need to talk about

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what music we've been listening to lately because

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we actually made a point to remember what we've

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been listening to lately. Yeah. Okay. i've been

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listening to windsor just a indie indie rock

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kind of guy who's actually i thought he was kind

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of made it big or big already but then now i

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see him on tiktok kind of pandering like hey

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everyone listen to me and i'm like oh i guess

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he's not as big as i thought he was but yeah

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all day long i've listened to that it was good

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i liked it i love that what have you been listening

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to um i the last song i listened to was hot and

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sexy by zara larson I don't know that, but I

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like the title. I'll send it to you guys. It's

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a very good song. Jack is very emo these days,

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and so we're listening to Uneasy Hearts Weigh

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the Most by Dance Cabin Dance. Oh, nice. Very

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cute. It has cuss words in it, but he never remembers

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the words anyway. Those are the most important

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words. He's more vibes -based. That's perfect.

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What about you, Josh? Yeah, so my long one, because

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I know last time I A, couldn't remember, and

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B, I'm like, I only listen to old stuff. But

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this week, I've been listening to new stuff.

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Two albums. One, I'm a huge Mariah fan, so her

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new album. Here For It All came out last week.

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So good. First album in seven years. And love

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all the songs on it. He's been making me watch

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every appearance Mariah has, like on all the

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late night shows and stuff. Like Jimmy Fallon,

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Kelly and Mark, and then Andy, of course, Watch

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What Happens Live. Her appearance on Watch What

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Happens Live was probably the best. But I have

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to say, I think I can recite all of her talking

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points now just by watching so many interviews

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with Mariah Carey. I'm just like, oh, and you

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put that song last. You don't say. and the grunge

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album and this and that yes so all good songs

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so there's that one and then Taylor's new album

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Life of a Showgirl which I used to not be into

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Taylor at all but now like I'm I wouldn't say

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I'm a Swifty but I like her a lot and I think

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it's really good like it's very upbeat and poppy

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and the title track Again, great. And this other

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song, Canceled, I was listening to before we

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got on here. But this actually relates to Housewives

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because Lisa Rinna, you know how she likes to

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post on Instagram, like, you know, dancing around

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while like Harry Hamlin's like minding his own

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damn business, like reading the paper. So she

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did like a video to Canceled and also to Life

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of a Showgirl. And it's just like, you know,

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really fun. I just saw her jumping on a trampoline.

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Am I thinking of the right thing? She was like,

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trampoline. I swear it was Lisa Rinna. I don't

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know. I feel like it probably was. She's always

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jumping around doing something. It's always just

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like a... Yeah. It's a very move your body thing.

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It's amazing. Which one of Taylor's songs is

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about Travis Kelsey's horse cock? Which one is

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that? About his wife? About his horse cock. Oh.

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I don't know which one. There's one about a tree

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or something, and the tree's a metaphor for his

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dick. Oh. I don't know. Yeah, my friend, not

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this Scott, but my other friend Scott was talking

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about that one, and I'm like, maybe I wasn't

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paying attention. I don't think you're analyzing

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the lyrics enough. Well, there's one where she's

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like, no. Like, W -O -O -D would. I just looked

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it up. i would watch a movie called wood with

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travis kelsey in it oh wood oh that oh yes because

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she talks about spreading her thighs got it yes

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okay that's the one yeah i'd say jeff's kind

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of like jack he's not paying attention to the

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lyrics yeah i'm feeling the vibes no not just

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that again thank you okay you're so welcome yeah

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um Did you guys see that Rachel Zeph is going

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to be on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, by

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the way? Oh, yeah. Yes, we saw the little commercial.

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Yeah, her little preview commercial. Yeah. I

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used you. I never really watched her. I never

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watched the Rachel Zeph project, but I kind of

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saw her in clips on The Soup at the time, and

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I really liked when they made fun of her. So

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not specifically her, but her show is really

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cheesy. But I'm looking forward to her on Beverly

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Hills. I think. You're good. I was going to say,

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I think we're going back to a place where we're

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getting back to housewives, because I think we

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brought that little Teddy fucking Mellon camp

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on that show. We strayed too far from God there,

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and we need to get it back on track. We'll let

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that go. We love Teddy. We love Teddy a lot,

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but we understand why people don't. I get it.

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I know. I don't. dislike. You can talk smack

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about it. We're here for it. I know that you're

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not going to get crazy with it, like the internet.

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She's got a bit of a reprieve lately because

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nearly dying from the cancer. But before that,

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it was basically like, I want you to die. No,

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I don't want her to die. That's the thing. I

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struggle with her. Wait, what? I think he just

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froze on my end, too. We're here. Now, I feel

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bad because I want to like Teddy, but she grew

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up in the spotlight. She was John Mellencamp's

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daughter, and she's too boring for the Real Housewives

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of Beverly Hills. Let's just call it what it

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is. Talk about your eating disorder accountability

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business. What are you doing? Yeah, I mean, that

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wasn't the best look. The accountability business

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was a bit much. But, you know, I think there

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had to be a voice of reason or a level -headed

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person. And that's what I think we like about

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her is that through all of it all, like, she

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never really said anything that was unreasonable.

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Like, she wasn't, like, going all crazy half

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-cocked like, you know, Camille or someone and

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just going out of left field. And I think that's

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what gave her the boring moniker is that she

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was just too reasonable, which... we enjoy funny

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thing is like she didn't even like they made

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her go with uh naming herself that coach she

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didn't even know what that was she just needed

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a term so it was very easy for her to lean into

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the eating disorder of all of it though and that's

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just all i'm gonna say I'm going to let it go.

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We saw your notes. We're going to have some words

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about Giselle when we get there, too. We're going

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to pick and choose our battles. Here's the thing.

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She has it coming. I get it. Absolutely, yeah.

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It's the same way where Bethany Pringle's my

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hero, but I'm like, eh, she has it coming sometimes.

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I will say, teddy made accountability a thing

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because on this episode it was like the drinking

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game like accountable you take accountability

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well i think they said like the the thing that

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established this group is accountability and

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i was like from who the thing was etiquette etiquette

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was the thing that started this group um for

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bravo con too oh yeah oh yeah that Well, I mean,

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we got two shirts made. We're testing our hand

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at merch so we can walk around with a Husbands

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Watching Housewives shirt. I made the logo on

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the back way too big. That's fine. I feel like

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I'm wearing a giant plastic wrap. It was really

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weird. But yeah, we got some merch and we're

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just kind of getting ready for it. He's picked

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out some schedule that we want to do. Well, so

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we got the schedule last week. They announced

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it. And so it's like all the panels and it's

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all it's very handy dandy and the app and you

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can like basically give you the whole schedule

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and you can like add things to your schedule

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basically. So it's just nonstop like panel, panel,

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panel, like literally going from like. uh the

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valley to potomac and then like beverly hills

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later on that day and this isn't even like including

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the photo ops which they announced that later

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on and you have to like sign up like which who

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knows what we'll get but because everyone gets

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you know crazy about that so it's a very busy

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day like i already like was looking at it and

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it's just like i told him like when are we gonna

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find time to eat that's so exciting whose panels

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are you the most excited for Well, that's the

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thing is, I mean, he'll remember more than I

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because I have a bad memory. But the panels are

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weird this year. I feel like I feel I know it's

00:14:44.419 --> 00:14:47.620
Bravo con. But two years ago, it was majority

00:14:47.620 --> 00:14:51.220
housewives, a little bit of other Bravo shows

00:14:51.220 --> 00:14:54.200
in there. But there's a lot of stuff. What it

00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:56.860
is, is that there's a lot of mixing of people

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like for like. themes like oh this is my bestie

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so it's like housewives who are besties across

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other cities i .e like theresa and alexia and

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like sutton and cynthia and teddy tamra of course

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and then you know so it's like and then like

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girls against boy like battle the sexes and like

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you know it's yeah and also too since there's

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like not a jersey panel but they're still going

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to be theresa margaret dolores and Melissa, are

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they going to be there? Spread amongst panels.

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So, like, Teresa has, like, three panels going

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on, both, like, flat or castmates, just so she

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can be there and have a presence. And then it's

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also odd because OC does not have a panel, period,

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but they've dispersed the women amongst, like,

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other random panels. Interesting. And New York

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is going to be their new New York, i .e. Jessel,

00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:52.100
Aaron, and Cy, but dispersed. And I think Luanne's

00:15:52.100 --> 00:15:53.799
going to be there stealing one from old Roni.

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Did you see that the New York is, like, filming

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again? Did you see this? No. I've heard that,

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like, there are rumors that they have, like,

00:16:03.220 --> 00:16:07.480
they're testing or whatever. I think what's going

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to happen is they're going to bring, like, Dorinda

00:16:08.940 --> 00:16:11.879
and Luanne back to, like, mix with the girls.

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I liked the new New York. I really, really did.

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But, like, people hated it. And, like, I guess,

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like, I don't know. You got to give the people

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what they want. I don't know. I mean, I can see

00:16:22.980 --> 00:16:24.700
them coming back as kind of, like, den mothers

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or, like, sorority, you know. I don't think it

00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:29.779
would work because it's such, it would be very

00:16:29.779 --> 00:16:32.139
obvious, like, this is new, this is old. I think

00:16:32.139 --> 00:16:34.039
they would be better off doing, like, another

00:16:34.039 --> 00:16:37.980
legacy, like, girl strip kind of situation. Because

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it just, I can't see, like, Dorinda and Jessel

00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:45.960
really, like. mixing well. I think she'd be really

00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:47.580
good friends with Jenna Lyons. I think they'd

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be really cool together. Right. That's true.

00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:58.539
Yeah. So, Emma, do you watch all the other shows,

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too? I dabble. You dabble. I dabble. I haven't

00:17:04.420 --> 00:17:06.519
watched every episode of New York. I haven't

00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:09.359
watched every episode of Beverly Hills. I've

00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:13.190
watched... almost every episode of atlanta but

00:17:13.190 --> 00:17:16.809
it's still like spotty potomac and salt lake

00:17:16.809 --> 00:17:21.089
city are like ride or die for me nice nice good

00:17:21.089 --> 00:17:25.210
we're not forcing you to catch up on potomac

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this time like we did salt lake no no i was all

00:17:30.130 --> 00:17:32.289
potomac i've been sitting on my hands for this

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interview This premiere. What prompted you to

00:17:37.990 --> 00:17:40.109
Emma? Because like, I don't think it was me,

00:17:40.170 --> 00:17:42.369
but like you were, were you, were we sick or

00:17:42.369 --> 00:17:43.809
something? Like what? Cause like there was like

00:17:43.809 --> 00:17:45.470
a two week period where you were like, I just

00:17:45.470 --> 00:17:50.569
watched all of it. I don't know what came over

00:17:50.569 --> 00:17:56.049
me. I liked that, that they were from a city

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I had never heard of. Like, I, I don't know what

00:17:58.650 --> 00:18:03.299
Potomac Maryland is. and I had never watched

00:18:03.299 --> 00:18:05.839
that series and at that point I think they were

00:18:05.839 --> 00:18:10.000
like six seasons in or something and I was like

00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:12.599
well I need to like see what it's about and then

00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:16.920
I fell in love with Giselle and I just like binged

00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:22.079
the whole thing I think we have like had COVID

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or something because we were texting about it

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and I remember being in bed and I was like I'm

00:18:27.099 --> 00:18:31.960
so happy that she likes this. I like chugged

00:18:31.960 --> 00:18:36.059
it. I loved it so much. I was the same way about

00:18:36.059 --> 00:18:38.259
Potomac. I remember like this is when I still

00:18:38.259 --> 00:18:40.759
lived in Solana and I was like watching TV and

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I saw like this, like the cherry blossoms go

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across the screen. I was like, oh, what the fuck

00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:51.539
is this? And God, like what a trip. I loved it.

00:18:51.619 --> 00:18:55.039
I'm so mad at Ashley and Stacey right now. I

00:18:55.039 --> 00:19:01.619
hate them. After the premiere. Well, let's get

00:19:01.619 --> 00:19:05.099
into it. I'm mad at them both. On opposing sides,

00:19:05.220 --> 00:19:08.539
I'm mad at them both. Yeah, no, it wasn't fun

00:19:08.539 --> 00:19:11.180
to watch because I want to like them both, but

00:19:11.180 --> 00:19:16.839
they make it so, so hard. I wish I could like

00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:23.269
you, girl. We'll get into it. We'll talk about

00:19:23.269 --> 00:19:26.750
it. Okay, so we start off with everyone getting

00:19:26.750 --> 00:19:29.950
over to Giselle's house and they're unpacking

00:19:29.950 --> 00:19:31.789
the State of the Union after Karen gets arrested.

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And the one thing that stands out to me so much

00:19:36.089 --> 00:19:39.329
about this cast, they are all gorgeous. There's

00:19:39.329 --> 00:19:42.650
not one of them that's like, oh, there's no dog

00:19:42.650 --> 00:19:47.569
in the group. They're all so beautiful. And they're

00:19:47.569 --> 00:19:52.059
glam. Wow. They eat it up every time. I mean,

00:19:52.059 --> 00:19:54.019
I could do without Kiarna's confessional, you

00:19:54.019 --> 00:19:59.200
know, her tiara theme. Her and her crowns. Yeah.

00:20:05.819 --> 00:20:07.680
Kiarna might be the one where I'm like, I'm here

00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:11.140
on the TV this season. I'm fine. She might take

00:20:11.140 --> 00:20:14.599
a minute to grow on me. Hopefully without Greg,

00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:18.400
she'll have the room to grow. If they keep telling

00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:20.359
us about Greg, I'm not going to be listening.

00:20:21.460 --> 00:20:24.299
I think she's so pretty and I like her so much.

00:20:24.380 --> 00:20:30.880
I just wish she would get off that man. I think

00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:32.359
that's the way I felt about her last season because

00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:34.640
I think she opened it up with going, my man,

00:20:34.700 --> 00:20:37.019
my man, my man. And I was like, nope, nope, nope,

00:20:37.019 --> 00:20:45.630
nope, nope. Unfortunately, I think she, cause

00:20:45.630 --> 00:20:48.410
she's talked about it like briefly last season.

00:20:48.630 --> 00:20:53.549
I think she wants to have kids and she really

00:20:53.549 --> 00:20:55.910
liked Greg and it was stable and all of that.

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And so I think she like. thought that was it

00:20:58.670 --> 00:21:01.410
for her so she was like blinded by that a little

00:21:01.410 --> 00:21:04.210
bit but you could see like she's so different

00:21:04.210 --> 00:21:06.349
with him than she is everywhere else so that's

00:21:06.349 --> 00:21:09.329
like a huge red flag no because he's a monster

00:21:09.329 --> 00:21:13.069
yeah well and i'm sure being on the show you

00:21:13.069 --> 00:21:15.849
know more you know more full -time probably opened

00:21:15.849 --> 00:21:18.069
her eyes to some other possibilities sure her

00:21:18.069 --> 00:21:20.569
dms were blowing up like crazy after last season

00:21:20.569 --> 00:21:24.230
i hope so i mean like she's beautiful she needs

00:21:24.230 --> 00:21:28.259
to get pounded out like god bless I love that

00:21:28.259 --> 00:21:37.059
she moved out. Her new place is nice. I love

00:21:37.059 --> 00:21:38.920
that when they were over at Giselle's house,

00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:41.619
Ashley did call out the Thomas Jefferson's concubine

00:21:41.619 --> 00:21:44.559
thing, and I love that I made that the name of

00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:49.619
all of our group chat. I forgot about that. I

00:21:49.619 --> 00:21:55.359
was like, oh yeah, Karen said that. they flash

00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:57.599
back to some of like the karen situation and

00:21:57.599 --> 00:21:59.680
like i didn't realize how triggering that was

00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:03.019
for me like that was a lot like seeing her wasted

00:22:03.019 --> 00:22:07.559
and like the whole be all of it like it i did

00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.859
not like that it's hard to watch because you're

00:22:10.859 --> 00:22:21.000
like wow karen just shut up Oh, man. I didn't

00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.079
like the way that Ashley said it, though. I wish

00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:26.539
she, because she, like, whispered it under her

00:22:26.539 --> 00:22:34.519
breath and was like, oh. Yeah. Come on. I went

00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:38.859
from like, oh, poor Karen. So, Stacey. Yeah.

00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:43.180
But the question I have is, did she pay TJ to

00:22:43.180 --> 00:22:46.720
be her boyfriend? I think she was giving half

00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:50.200
of that check to TJ. I think it's crazy. Like,

00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:52.480
the check isn't that small for a first -year

00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.720
housewife. So, like, that's a very paltry amount

00:22:55.720 --> 00:23:00.059
already. So, I don't know who to believe. I don't

00:23:00.059 --> 00:23:06.940
think TJ is a reliable witness as well. So, I

00:23:06.940 --> 00:23:11.059
don't know. Actually, Darby at a party, she's

00:23:11.059 --> 00:23:14.769
reliable, right? this actor sue what is with

00:23:14.769 --> 00:23:18.990
bravo is very afraid of like offending celebrities

00:23:18.990 --> 00:23:21.849
because like they bleeped out and like blurred

00:23:21.849 --> 00:23:24.410
out whenever someone said the dude from that

00:23:24.410 --> 00:23:27.869
tamra allegedly banged and now this famous actress

00:23:27.869 --> 00:23:29.930
who they don't want to say her name and i'm like

00:23:29.930 --> 00:23:32.549
oh what is it oh it's a liability it's a it's

00:23:32.549 --> 00:23:36.069
a slander lawsuit waiting to happen like i really

00:23:36.069 --> 00:23:39.569
then makes you speculate like you know who was

00:23:39.569 --> 00:23:42.359
it yeah i want to know so bad Can't they just

00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:44.240
say allegedly and then get away with that? It

00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:48.779
works for everyone else, right? I mean... I don't

00:23:48.779 --> 00:23:53.119
know. I don't know. I wonder if there's something

00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.799
to do with signing releases or something. I don't

00:23:55.799 --> 00:24:00.539
know. But I'm curious who told Ashley Darby that

00:24:00.539 --> 00:24:03.680
because I... I don't know. I'm sure there's a

00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:05.880
blog about it. I wonder if this person who's

00:24:05.880 --> 00:24:10.109
supposedly TJ's best friend... okay and then

00:24:10.109 --> 00:24:12.089
she has these why does she have these screenshots

00:24:12.089 --> 00:24:14.410
and then like oh she just happens to run into

00:24:14.410 --> 00:24:17.430
Giselle and Ashley at this essence event it's

00:24:17.430 --> 00:24:21.390
just too it is weird but it also seems weird

00:24:21.390 --> 00:24:25.089
to me that Ashley would want it to be true so

00:24:25.089 --> 00:24:30.150
bad like Ashley is weird in general and she like

00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:35.519
will die on a hill 100 but i i just feel like

00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:39.680
if that didn't happen it's so weird that she

00:24:39.680 --> 00:24:43.940
like can't stop bringing it up to stacy you know

00:24:43.940 --> 00:24:47.519
what i mean remind me at this point emma when

00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:50.920
we get to the fight where ashley's calling her

00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:53.160
a liar because i have a theory about this so

00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.859
remind me about this okay At the very end. I

00:24:56.859 --> 00:24:59.559
think this woman did say this, but unless you're

00:24:59.559 --> 00:25:02.920
going to show me the actual receipts, like, come

00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:06.579
on. You know, it's hearsay. I also couldn't find

00:25:06.579 --> 00:25:08.599
this lawsuit that had been filed anywhere. Like,

00:25:08.619 --> 00:25:11.079
I did a lot of digging. I could not find the

00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.380
lawsuit. You're a regular Ashley Darby. Yeah,

00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.900
I'm going to ask her. I love a document. I thought

00:25:16.900 --> 00:25:21.609
it was strange that Giselle said... I tried to

00:25:21.609 --> 00:25:23.809
get a screenshot of it, but I couldn't. Like

00:25:23.809 --> 00:25:27.470
the way she said, I was like. Was she like holding

00:25:27.470 --> 00:25:29.549
her phone over the other lady's phone? Like,

00:25:29.569 --> 00:25:32.529
here, let me get a shot. And then was it successful?

00:25:33.190 --> 00:25:36.910
Like, I don't know. It's all just so strange.

00:25:37.490 --> 00:25:40.950
Yeah. And it gets down to the problem with it

00:25:40.950 --> 00:25:43.910
is what the hell do they care so much for? Like,

00:25:43.910 --> 00:25:52.559
how does this affect their lives? My answer to

00:25:52.559 --> 00:26:01.259
that is twofold. You could say, or they would

00:26:01.259 --> 00:26:03.599
say, we care about it because, you know, how

00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:04.980
can we be friends with this person when she's

00:26:04.980 --> 00:26:07.500
like lying to our faces and, you know, she's

00:26:07.500 --> 00:26:09.099
not taking accountability, whatever, whatever.

00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:12.960
But really. if we break the fourth wall it's

00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:15.319
you're not doing what the rest of us are doing

00:26:15.319 --> 00:26:17.619
which is like showing our real lives supposedly

00:26:17.619 --> 00:26:21.799
and i'm bogged because you're not pulling your

00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:24.079
weight in that and like i'm putting myself out

00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:27.819
here not really ashley giselle but but you're

00:26:27.819 --> 00:26:29.940
not and so now i'm pissed because you're just

00:26:29.940 --> 00:26:32.200
getting away with it and you're skating on that

00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:36.509
so i think that's what they just i agree with

00:26:36.509 --> 00:26:38.109
that so i'll just tell you the theory i was going

00:26:38.109 --> 00:26:40.670
to tell you later i i think that's part of it

00:26:40.670 --> 00:26:44.269
i think the other part is behind the scenes she

00:26:44.269 --> 00:26:48.549
lied about something much bigger and they can't

00:26:48.549 --> 00:26:50.349
say it on camera for whatever reason whether

00:26:50.349 --> 00:26:54.150
it's liability whether it's like whatever and

00:26:54.150 --> 00:26:56.390
this is how it's coming out in a very ugly way

00:26:56.390 --> 00:26:58.069
it's like we're gonna fight about because it's

00:26:58.069 --> 00:26:59.150
like you're never fighting about what you're

00:26:59.150 --> 00:27:00.890
fighting about like in a lot of cases on these

00:27:00.890 --> 00:27:02.829
shows so i have a feeling that's what this is

00:27:02.829 --> 00:27:07.640
like I don't care that she paid TJ. If she did,

00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.960
great. If not, whatever. I don't care. They are

00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.859
focusing a lot on that, which tells me something

00:27:14.859 --> 00:27:17.220
bigger had to have taken place. I think you're

00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:20.079
right. There's more to it. She didn't rob Giselle

00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:27.920
to pay TJ. Right. Giselle's raise. In a way that

00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:31.420
Ashley, when they were trying on dresses in the

00:27:31.420 --> 00:27:33.480
middle of the show, she was like, you're just

00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:36.240
overall a liar. I was like, what else did she

00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:41.019
lie about that I'm missing? Like... Travis, I

00:27:41.019 --> 00:27:42.700
think you're right then. Yeah, they really latched

00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:47.140
onto something else. Yeah. But speaking of latching

00:27:47.140 --> 00:27:50.039
on, Stacey goes and has lunch with her ex -husband

00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:53.599
because they're dating again. I don't want it.

00:27:53.900 --> 00:27:56.319
That's the only other thing I can think about

00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.119
for, like, why she would have paid TJ is, like...

00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.119
I don't know. Also, with Ashley saying that they

00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:05.319
can't find anything legally like public about

00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:08.140
her divorce is makes me think that she was never

00:28:08.140 --> 00:28:10.720
getting divorced and that she just thought she

00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:13.299
needed some juicy storyline to get on the show.

00:28:13.420 --> 00:28:18.039
And she's. Yeah. Manufactured her. And she's

00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:21.480
still standing on. Well, we even told our daughter,

00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:24.779
like, we're divorced, we're divorced, but now

00:28:24.779 --> 00:28:28.420
we're back together. Okay. And it's so weird.

00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.339
It's so weird. I just did not appreciate how

00:28:31.339 --> 00:28:35.839
she behaved in this altogether. Also, I could

00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:39.700
not believe she called Kiarna, of all people,

00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:46.359
vanilla. I was like, Stacey, you missed that.

00:28:46.819 --> 00:28:51.900
You said Kiarna doesn't have a personality. And

00:28:51.900 --> 00:28:55.519
I said, Stacey. I would argue that Kiarna has

00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:59.299
too much personality, honestly. I don't know,

00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.000
just coming from Stacey, who has had straight

00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.240
hair and a basic Fashion Nova fit on for two,

00:29:07.299 --> 00:29:10.140
three seasons now. What are you talking about?

00:29:12.380 --> 00:29:18.079
What was that? Like a basic Fashion Nova dress

00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:23.569
on and a straight hair. Every single time. Oh,

00:29:23.589 --> 00:29:26.309
my God. Yeah. Yeah. Mix it up a little, girl.

00:29:26.910 --> 00:29:29.150
She's up for the big game a bit, though. I will

00:29:29.150 --> 00:29:34.410
give her that. And if you want to be basic, be

00:29:34.410 --> 00:29:36.430
basic, but you can't run around calling other

00:29:36.430 --> 00:29:43.730
people vanilla. Come on. And then I think when

00:29:43.730 --> 00:29:48.460
Stacey said that. We found out we were officially

00:29:48.460 --> 00:29:50.319
divorced when we were on the beach on vacation

00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.079
together. What do you mean? What do you mean

00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.339
you found out? Did you not file the paperwork?

00:29:55.460 --> 00:29:57.400
Did you not sign the paperwork? What do you mean

00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:00.519
you found out? Well, you can file it, but then

00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:04.220
your lawyer could tell you, okay, now it's final.

00:30:05.460 --> 00:30:09.339
I think that's what she meant. It was a surprise

00:30:09.339 --> 00:30:13.140
to her. Not a surprise, but I think it was more

00:30:13.140 --> 00:30:17.750
so they didn't know the exact when it was going

00:30:17.750 --> 00:30:19.609
to be like final, final. Maybe she was in Barcelona

00:30:19.609 --> 00:30:24.049
with Lisa from Miami and she had to get a notary

00:30:24.049 --> 00:30:25.730
at like three in the morning and some shit. Can

00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:28.430
you hand me my beer? Maybe she was just aggravating

00:30:28.430 --> 00:30:30.490
the shit out of me and like that's why I honed

00:30:30.490 --> 00:30:32.970
in on that so much. I was like, God. There's

00:30:32.970 --> 00:30:35.150
just something not right with that whole thing.

00:30:35.230 --> 00:30:36.910
And then the way that she's sitting across from

00:30:36.910 --> 00:30:40.170
her ex -husband, you know, kind of just sitting

00:30:40.170 --> 00:30:43.559
there like. something's just smug about it in

00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:45.400
a way that like, she thinks she's pulling one

00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:48.319
over on us, the viewers and the other ladies

00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.589
when it just seems really. transparent and really,

00:30:52.730 --> 00:30:54.509
really paper thin. Just whatever she's trying

00:30:54.509 --> 00:30:56.230
to do. We'll figure it out before it's all done.

00:30:56.289 --> 00:30:59.349
Also, that ex -husband looks like he has horcruxes

00:30:59.349 --> 00:31:01.730
somewhere. He makes me uncomfortable and I don't.

00:31:01.750 --> 00:31:06.150
He has a white horcrux. I thought he was kind

00:31:06.150 --> 00:31:08.950
of cute. I thought he was like a more European

00:31:08.950 --> 00:31:15.769
John Barlow. He has German. He seems nice and

00:31:15.769 --> 00:31:20.859
whatever. It's just so obvious. She had to reiterate

00:31:20.859 --> 00:31:23.700
last season like 10 different times that she's

00:31:23.700 --> 00:31:26.960
not having sex with TJ. And now she's back with

00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.319
her ex -husband. It's like, this is so clear

00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:34.460
as day. You were covering. Oh, my God. Yeah,

00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:36.400
it was probably the stipulation her ex -husband

00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.019
gave. Yeah, I'll play along with this as long

00:31:39.019 --> 00:31:42.039
as you make sure no one thinks you had sex. Jesus

00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:44.960
Christ. But he wasn't interested in being on

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.539
the show at all because they had to blur him.

00:31:47.059 --> 00:31:50.109
Oh, yeah. He didn't sign off. on a release last

00:31:50.109 --> 00:31:52.069
season like even in pictures they had to blur

00:31:52.069 --> 00:31:54.950
his face so i forgot about that yeah i wonder

00:31:54.950 --> 00:31:57.869
like when it became like okay i'll do this show

00:31:57.869 --> 00:32:01.109
with you i'll be on camera you know it's just

00:32:01.109 --> 00:32:06.529
yeah that part i will give you is is is sus probably

00:32:06.529 --> 00:32:08.769
when his checks started clearing for tj and he's

00:32:08.769 --> 00:32:15.549
like i can just do this myself and for me i was

00:32:15.549 --> 00:32:21.799
like she just seems so disingenuous about everything

00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.500
that she's saying and I wonder how much truth

00:32:24.500 --> 00:32:28.140
there is to at some point I don't even remember

00:32:28.140 --> 00:32:31.000
who said it but someone said haven't you been

00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:34.240
trying to get on this show for like years now

00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:40.039
and her only defense was girl I've been on TV

00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.000
it's like yeah but you haven't been on TV yeah

00:32:44.750 --> 00:32:46.789
You were selling Lisa Renner's clothes. Like,

00:32:46.789 --> 00:32:51.930
let's not the dusters. And I, yeah. So like,

00:32:51.950 --> 00:32:57.829
I wonder if she was like, I have a plan. I can't,

00:32:57.829 --> 00:33:00.170
I can't imagine it would take that much. I mean,

00:33:00.190 --> 00:33:02.089
unless the producers or the casting people were

00:33:02.089 --> 00:33:04.430
like, well, you know, we really, we don't need

00:33:04.430 --> 00:33:07.329
a happily married couple on housewives of Potomac.

00:33:07.789 --> 00:33:09.710
So you'd be the only one or the only one that's

00:33:09.710 --> 00:33:15.349
allowed to be Karen and Ray. I think the only

00:33:15.349 --> 00:33:24.470
real happily married couple on the show is Wendy

00:33:24.470 --> 00:33:27.210
and Eddie. They seem like they actually like

00:33:27.210 --> 00:33:29.829
each other, still in love, have a good family.

00:33:30.089 --> 00:33:31.609
We'll see at the end of the season because that

00:33:31.609 --> 00:33:33.910
one looked like the wheels were about to fall

00:33:33.910 --> 00:33:36.549
off too. She's doing the wife swap thing though.

00:33:37.089 --> 00:33:41.259
I can't wait for wife swap. So good. I think

00:33:41.259 --> 00:33:43.359
that'll be good, actually. Maybe if that was

00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.640
a misdirect with what's going on there. I think

00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.119
it is going to be a misdirect, but wife swap.

00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.819
I was really hoping it was going to be all housewives

00:33:51.819 --> 00:33:54.380
wife swapping with each other. So that way they

00:33:54.380 --> 00:33:56.720
could be really, really shady about the way the

00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:59.039
other families live. I thought that'd be great.

00:33:59.099 --> 00:34:00.440
It'd be like the one time they could actually

00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.259
bring the kids up. Well, I think this is more

00:34:03.259 --> 00:34:05.900
interesting to have real people with pigs. I

00:34:05.900 --> 00:34:09.460
think so, too. I don't know. I think it's kind

00:34:09.460 --> 00:34:11.559
of cool because it's like you probably like I

00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:13.320
have to assume that some of these women that

00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:15.159
are going to swap with the Housewives are like

00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.639
huge Housewives fans. So it's like, oh, I get

00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:20.219
to live. I think that's kind of cool for them,

00:34:20.219 --> 00:34:22.420
honestly. Not that lady off the grid, though.

00:34:22.460 --> 00:34:26.119
She probably has no clue. No, but like I would

00:34:26.119 --> 00:34:31.280
have loved to see Angie Kay wife swap with Wendy.

00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:37.369
Yeah, that'd be great. No, I think Wendy in that

00:34:37.369 --> 00:34:39.909
like preview snippet that you were talking about.

00:34:40.250 --> 00:34:42.829
I have a funny feeling she's talking about her

00:34:42.829 --> 00:34:45.510
dad because we've seen a lot of her mom, but

00:34:45.510 --> 00:34:48.789
not a lot of her dad. That's the other thing

00:34:48.789 --> 00:34:52.449
I thought. Yeah. OK, you're probably right. That

00:34:52.449 --> 00:34:54.269
sounds. Yeah. They never talk about the dad.

00:34:54.449 --> 00:34:58.949
Yeah. Yeah. Her mom's name. I don't this year.

00:34:58.989 --> 00:35:01.530
I don't remember her mom's name at all. I hate

00:35:01.530 --> 00:35:04.840
her mom. I'm just I hate her mom. I'm intimidated

00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:09.039
by her mom. I don't hate her. She gets in her

00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:10.699
daughter's business a little too much for me,

00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:14.380
but I think that might be a cultural thing. She

00:35:14.380 --> 00:35:18.239
intimidates me. She's a stronger woman than I,

00:35:18.300 --> 00:35:22.039
and I know that's true. It's not about... I feel

00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:24.880
like the way she makes Wendy feel is what bothers

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.610
me, because I feel like Wendy feels like... like

00:35:28.610 --> 00:35:30.349
you know it's like closed off around her almost

00:35:30.349 --> 00:35:32.510
and i'm like oh i don't i feel like you have

00:35:32.510 --> 00:35:34.510
a thing about your mom and i don't i wish she

00:35:34.510 --> 00:35:36.409
didn't feel that way like i can't stand that

00:35:36.409 --> 00:35:38.789
about her though yeah like you can never do enough

00:35:38.789 --> 00:35:44.670
to please her mom other nigerian people i know

00:35:44.670 --> 00:35:50.030
though that's like a pretty common thing With

00:35:50.030 --> 00:35:52.510
a lot of, I think, freshly immigrated families,

00:35:52.650 --> 00:35:54.389
like first -generation Americans, there's a lot

00:35:54.389 --> 00:35:57.789
of first -generation immigrants, a lot of living

00:35:57.789 --> 00:35:59.929
up to your parents' expectations and stuff. I've

00:35:59.929 --> 00:36:02.409
heard that from some of my friends. So, yeah,

00:36:02.489 --> 00:36:05.530
it can be a lot, I'm sure. But we got to meet

00:36:05.530 --> 00:36:09.230
Kiarna's mom. And she looks like she's six years

00:36:09.230 --> 00:36:14.250
older than Kiarna. I know, right? I thought it

00:36:14.250 --> 00:36:18.289
was Kiana at first. I did too. I was like, oh,

00:36:18.389 --> 00:36:21.329
wait, no, that's not. They clearly just walked

00:36:21.329 --> 00:36:23.349
out of the same glam room together and walked

00:36:23.349 --> 00:36:28.730
onto the camera. My God. It was wild. I've never

00:36:28.730 --> 00:36:30.929
seen anything like that. But even her outfit,

00:36:31.269 --> 00:36:33.909
I was like, that could be Kiana. She would wear

00:36:33.909 --> 00:36:39.570
that. Yeah. Oh, my God. I need to know what elixir

00:36:39.570 --> 00:36:47.809
she drank. She looked amazing. And she had the

00:36:47.809 --> 00:36:50.170
patience to listen to Kiarna talk about Greg,

00:36:50.329 --> 00:36:55.230
which I barely have, so. Right. She said, I don't

00:36:55.230 --> 00:36:58.210
like you with him. Well, I appreciate that you

00:36:58.210 --> 00:37:02.550
are with him. Yeah. Yes. And she also was like,

00:37:02.670 --> 00:37:04.570
I also raised you better than this. Like, she's

00:37:04.570 --> 00:37:08.110
like a very, like, like, it's not tough love,

00:37:08.150 --> 00:37:10.469
but it's like, you need to hear this. And I really

00:37:10.469 --> 00:37:14.199
like that. No, I like the stance of I raised

00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:17.280
you better than this, but not like you need to

00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.099
have more discipline type of thing. It was like

00:37:19.099 --> 00:37:22.219
I raised you to understand that you are the creator

00:37:22.219 --> 00:37:24.280
of your own happiness and you're a queen and

00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:26.460
you're number one and you deserve better than

00:37:26.460 --> 00:37:30.380
that. I thought that was nice and nice. Yeah,

00:37:31.699 --> 00:37:37.579
that's the word. And then we head over to Wendy's

00:37:37.579 --> 00:37:40.570
house and. Happy Eddie's getting ready to expand

00:37:40.570 --> 00:37:44.769
his operations into New Jersey. I'm sorry. I

00:37:44.769 --> 00:37:47.670
hate interrupting. Before we get off of Kiarna

00:37:47.670 --> 00:37:51.010
and Greg, we're all in agreement. Greg isn't

00:37:51.010 --> 00:37:53.630
making a comeback. She's done with Greg. Or is

00:37:53.630 --> 00:37:55.809
she leaving the door open so we have to see?

00:37:55.809 --> 00:38:00.809
The door's open. They're going to be done. I

00:38:00.809 --> 00:38:04.719
have a feeling. Oh, 100%. I think she's attached

00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:08.900
to who she thought Greg was and what they thought

00:38:08.900 --> 00:38:11.579
they could be. And I think she's struggling a

00:38:11.579 --> 00:38:15.400
little bit to let that go. But the fact that

00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.739
she has moved out and it's been months now is

00:38:17.739 --> 00:38:23.460
good. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. He reminds me so much

00:38:23.460 --> 00:38:26.980
of my ex -uncle, Big Joe, when he was with my

00:38:26.980 --> 00:38:28.760
aunt Tina and they got remarried and divorced

00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.300
like three times. So like, I have a feeling that's

00:38:31.300 --> 00:38:35.219
what's happening. Oh man. Yeah. Yeah. Reminds

00:38:35.219 --> 00:38:37.159
me of cordon Tina from all I have to live, but

00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:42.420
like a real life soap opera. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:38:42.460 --> 00:38:44.320
I guess. Yeah, you're right. She needs, she needs

00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:46.079
to know. I mean, I, I don't want to sit here

00:38:46.079 --> 00:38:48.320
and rag on a guy, but he does seem very ordinary

00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:52.690
and very not. He didn't want to see her. He doesn't

00:38:52.690 --> 00:38:54.389
want to see her flourish. He really wanted to

00:38:54.389 --> 00:38:58.150
see her on the same level as him and not do anything

00:38:58.150 --> 00:39:00.750
that, you know, he couldn't be part of. And I

00:39:00.750 --> 00:39:03.110
think that's always so sad to see in a couple,

00:39:03.210 --> 00:39:08.170
you know? He also seemed to be like, there's

00:39:08.170 --> 00:39:11.349
nothing wrong with this. He seemed to have more

00:39:11.349 --> 00:39:15.420
like traditional values. That's okay, but I don't

00:39:15.420 --> 00:39:20.679
see that for Kiarna. She's like girl boss. I

00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.780
own my own business and it does really well.

00:39:23.500 --> 00:39:26.519
I got everything done. I have a picture of me

00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:33.559
in my bedroom. I just feel like they're not compatible

00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:37.599
in that way. Do any of us have a picture of ourselves

00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:42.340
that large in our bedroom? No. Not in my bedroom,

00:39:42.420 --> 00:39:46.400
but in my entryway. Okay. All right. So I was

00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:48.300
about to say, I think, I think you have, you

00:39:48.300 --> 00:39:50.059
have to have one of those to become a housewife.

00:39:50.099 --> 00:39:52.940
So Travis, I think you are well on your way to

00:39:52.940 --> 00:40:02.400
becoming a real housewife. I love that Giselle

00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:07.119
amongst her wall of mirrors also had a self portrait.

00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.639
Yeah. God, I love her so much. I love her so

00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:13.239
much. When he was like, wow, you must love yourself.

00:40:16.059 --> 00:40:20.659
Yeah. That scene with Giselle, I know we're skipping

00:40:20.659 --> 00:40:22.960
around. I know you're probably driving you nuts,

00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:26.440
Travis. But that scene of Giselle having no one

00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:30.559
to talk to other than the cameraman. Laying down

00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:33.039
on the bed sideways, kicking her feet up in the

00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:36.619
air. It was like, what in the hell am I watching?

00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:43.690
I watched it all day. I love it so much. I could

00:40:43.690 --> 00:40:45.510
just tell she was a little bit uncomfortable

00:40:45.510 --> 00:40:49.150
because she was like, she was like, oh, my bed

00:40:49.150 --> 00:40:51.730
is so comfy as if she'd never laid in it before.

00:40:52.269 --> 00:40:56.610
She doesn't have Robin anymore. Was she sharing

00:40:56.610 --> 00:40:58.289
that bed with her daughters? I don't understand.

00:40:59.789 --> 00:41:02.289
She doesn't have Robin anymore though. So like,

00:41:02.289 --> 00:41:05.789
she's like trying to. I don't know. Yeah, and

00:41:05.789 --> 00:41:08.170
Ashley was busy that day and couldn't go to her

00:41:08.170 --> 00:41:11.449
house. I loved that she said she's been out in

00:41:11.449 --> 00:41:13.630
the streets. She said, do I have time for a man?

00:41:13.849 --> 00:41:19.469
Yeah, I do. I'm so busy with my podcast and with

00:41:19.469 --> 00:41:24.650
G &A, I'm like, okay, sure. What is G &A in the

00:41:24.650 --> 00:41:27.889
year 2025, by the way? What are they doing now?

00:41:30.690 --> 00:41:37.460
Joggers. Now, if we tried, we'd looked at their

00:41:37.460 --> 00:41:39.719
website. We would have bought like a GNA hat

00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:42.519
or something, but it was just, there was nothing

00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.440
available. Like we were launching GNA merch,

00:41:45.659 --> 00:41:49.320
but there's none. Yeah. Maybe it'll be a BravoCon.

00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:54.539
Oh, that's where they relaunch. Should we get

00:41:54.539 --> 00:41:57.179
you a G &A? Do you need some G &A? If you have

00:41:57.179 --> 00:42:00.360
requests, there's this thing at BravoCon, the

00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:03.260
Bravo Bazaar, where everyone sells their wares

00:42:03.260 --> 00:42:05.679
in like this one big room. And that's where you

00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.019
can also encounter housewives or like Bravo Laboratories,

00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:10.760
unless they're like their assistant is running

00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:12.900
the booth. But you can sometimes see like, oh,

00:42:12.940 --> 00:42:15.099
look, there's Teresa selling her cookbooks or

00:42:15.099 --> 00:42:17.900
like whatever, or Happy Eddie, you know, selling.

00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:20.340
Yeah, Wendy was selling her three -wick candle

00:42:20.340 --> 00:42:22.519
last time. She wasn't actually there when we

00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.400
met. True, true. Yeah. But yeah, we could have

00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:26.940
gotten like a Happy Eddie shirt and that sort

00:42:26.940 --> 00:42:29.139
of stuff. Yeah. So if you like something, let

00:42:29.139 --> 00:42:33.860
us know. You can Venmo us later. I'll take a

00:42:33.860 --> 00:42:39.019
look. I'll see what's at the bazaar. But we head

00:42:39.019 --> 00:42:40.579
over to Wendy's house for happy eddies, getting

00:42:40.579 --> 00:42:44.039
ready to go to New Jersey. And I feel like he's

00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.880
grown into himself a little bit. Like, he seems

00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:52.079
just brighter, almost. I do think it seems like

00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:56.840
he's found his truth. Like, he's happy with the

00:42:56.840 --> 00:43:00.579
happy eddies. I would say maybe he's just excited.

00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.739
He can just be like, yeah, I smoke a whole lot

00:43:02.739 --> 00:43:05.579
of weed and I make money off of it. He's Maria

00:43:05.579 --> 00:43:12.360
Sino. Their son saying, well, Chick -fil -A is

00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:15.800
a large company. They would pay me a big salary,

00:43:15.940 --> 00:43:19.260
right? That was so funny to me because that's

00:43:19.260 --> 00:43:22.900
such a kid thing to say. That's so cute. He's

00:43:22.900 --> 00:43:25.340
not that young of a kid either, though. You'd

00:43:25.340 --> 00:43:27.480
think he'd know that minimum wage is minimum

00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:40.159
wage, people. Yeah, he's also not grounded. yeah

00:43:40.159 --> 00:43:42.039
i'm surprised wendy didn't like reach across

00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:44.019
and give him a swat on the back of the head for

00:43:44.019 --> 00:43:45.920
saying he's not she's not a real doctor yeah

00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:49.940
or she didn't mention her i don't think she wanted

00:43:49.940 --> 00:43:55.559
to explain on camera that it's a phd why stop

00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:59.960
now she does it all the time i know i know i

00:43:59.960 --> 00:44:02.559
think she was just like maybe that's what it

00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:05.559
is is that she's trying to stop being the like

00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:09.360
cocky dr wendy thing and so she was like yeah

00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:13.880
we're watching on brand with jimmy fallon that

00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:18.280
new marketing show he has with um one of the

00:44:18.280 --> 00:44:21.539
one of the contestants has like three degrees

00:44:21.539 --> 00:44:23.179
he's like oh he's a teacher he's a professor

00:44:23.179 --> 00:44:25.000
of marketing and he has like he named all his

00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:29.510
degrees i'm like oh just three wendy has four

00:44:29.510 --> 00:44:35.389
yeah so better get back to school there's still

00:44:35.389 --> 00:44:45.449
time sir and then we go with ash oh i like didn't

00:44:45.449 --> 00:44:47.210
finish this note all the way but actually heads

00:44:47.210 --> 00:44:49.469
to what looks like the tackiest store on god's

00:44:49.469 --> 00:44:55.469
green earth and um What is that lady they always

00:44:55.469 --> 00:44:59.090
go to, right? We're not waiting for last year.

00:45:00.230 --> 00:45:03.130
I thought we were like, why is it not Vivian

00:45:03.130 --> 00:45:07.349
this year? Because Stacey alienated her. Right.

00:45:09.570 --> 00:45:13.469
But we've seen this woman before, right? 100%.

00:45:13.469 --> 00:45:21.550
We've been in this store. Yeah. You couldn't

00:45:21.550 --> 00:45:23.570
pay me money to be in here. It just feels so

00:45:23.570 --> 00:45:27.130
overstimulating to me. It's giving prom. It's

00:45:27.130 --> 00:45:30.849
giving prom score. Yes. Well, I mean, if it's

00:45:30.849 --> 00:45:32.829
Ashley's favorite place to shop, we can imagine

00:45:32.829 --> 00:45:40.309
how loud it is there. Yeah. But we get the headline

00:45:40.309 --> 00:45:42.769
of how much money Ashley got out of the divorce.

00:45:42.909 --> 00:45:45.289
And I feel like Michael Darby was 100 % trying

00:45:45.289 --> 00:45:48.510
to hide money and assets during their separation

00:45:48.510 --> 00:45:51.409
because Ashley looked like she was poor for a

00:45:51.409 --> 00:45:54.710
little bit. Oh yeah. She was worrying for sure.

00:45:55.250 --> 00:45:58.150
And then, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think too

00:45:58.150 --> 00:46:02.050
that she like knew how much money he was basically

00:46:02.050 --> 00:46:05.090
holding out on her. And that was like stressing

00:46:05.090 --> 00:46:08.269
her out. Cause she's like, I need that. But she

00:46:08.269 --> 00:46:12.590
looks so, she got that $2 million and she went

00:46:12.590 --> 00:46:17.769
right to the med spa. And she said, she said,

00:46:17.849 --> 00:46:24.750
fix me up. She's better. She looks happy. She

00:46:24.750 --> 00:46:26.570
looks relieved. Like there's a weight off her

00:46:26.570 --> 00:46:30.170
shoulders. She has enough time to like really

00:46:30.170 --> 00:46:32.550
give it to Stacy and turn this through all the

00:46:32.550 --> 00:46:37.369
research. Well, Stacy shows up and she brings

00:46:37.369 --> 00:46:41.570
that up. And the way Stacy reacts to everything,

00:46:41.730 --> 00:46:45.110
like while it's bizarre to me, I find it so funny

00:46:45.110 --> 00:46:47.940
because she's just like, well. do you want the

00:46:47.940 --> 00:46:53.940
truth? And then Ashley's like, please, yes. One

00:46:53.940 --> 00:46:56.699
thing I want, it's for you to quit lying. Yeah.

00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:59.559
And she's just like, I let him go, Ashley. I

00:46:59.559 --> 00:47:02.559
let him go. Like the way I'm just like, no, you.

00:47:03.579 --> 00:47:07.500
Yeah. Yeah. That's not the truth. I loved it

00:47:07.500 --> 00:47:11.719
because I loved how exasperated Ashley was. And

00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:13.519
it's like, yeah, she's not going to give you

00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:16.969
what you want. So deal with it. Like, and how

00:47:16.969 --> 00:47:19.369
you have the audacity to be exasperated. Like,

00:47:19.429 --> 00:47:21.369
why aren't you doing housewife? Like, you should

00:47:21.369 --> 00:47:23.849
be doing housewife. And it's like, I'm not going

00:47:23.849 --> 00:47:28.289
to. Eat me. Yeah. I just feel like we're not

00:47:28.289 --> 00:47:30.210
going to get it out of Stacey. And that just

00:47:30.210 --> 00:47:33.269
has to be okay. I also thought it was so funny

00:47:33.269 --> 00:47:36.349
that Stacey was talking like it would have taken

00:47:36.349 --> 00:47:40.090
Ashley weeks to do this search query to try to

00:47:40.090 --> 00:47:44.119
find the lawsuit. How does she have the time?

00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.579
How does she have the time? When's the last time

00:47:47.579 --> 00:47:49.900
you Googled something, Stacey? Like, it doesn't

00:47:49.900 --> 00:47:52.440
take that long. She had to get a membership to

00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:59.050
LexisNexis. What the fuck? I also liked how hard

00:47:59.050 --> 00:48:01.389
Ashley was just like going in it, whether it

00:48:01.389 --> 00:48:03.710
was at this moment or later on when she's like,

00:48:03.769 --> 00:48:06.989
you are lying. Like she was just so worked up

00:48:06.989 --> 00:48:09.030
about it that she wasn't even sugarcoating it

00:48:09.030 --> 00:48:11.889
and just being like, you are a liar. Which is

00:48:11.889 --> 00:48:14.150
where my theory comes from. I was like, why are

00:48:14.150 --> 00:48:16.590
you, why is it this big of a deal? And I'm like,

00:48:16.650 --> 00:48:20.329
oh, there's something there. Yeah. I loved like.

00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.380
Stacey's saying, the imaginary friend. And Ashley

00:48:23.380 --> 00:48:29.079
kept saying, she's very real. She's an actress.

00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:33.800
It's this person. I guess the way she pressed

00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:36.159
Ashley was pretty good, too. Yeah, Ashley was

00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:42.820
pressed. And maybe that's where Stacey's work

00:48:42.820 --> 00:48:45.360
comes in. But for the second time in this episode,

00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:47.380
she storms off and Ashley just goes, you love

00:48:47.380 --> 00:48:52.639
a walk -off. yeah I mean to be fair she does

00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:55.400
do that a lot she just like sprints out the door

00:48:55.400 --> 00:49:01.139
um we go over to Giselle's house and I just forgot

00:49:01.139 --> 00:49:04.219
I love her so much and I want to get into Scott

00:49:04.219 --> 00:49:08.320
and Jeff and why I'm wrong apparently oh no no

00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:10.960
you're not wrong you're not wrong here's the

00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.820
thing I've had a precarious relationship with

00:49:12.820 --> 00:49:15.119
Giselle um I used to love Giselle when the first

00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.940
show first started and then around the Monique

00:49:17.940 --> 00:49:20.760
era Which, by the way, I totally forgot Monique's

00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.719
going to be on the show. When they showed the

00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:24.360
trailer at the end, I was like, oh yeah, that's

00:49:24.360 --> 00:49:26.139
right. Because there's so much else going on

00:49:26.139 --> 00:49:29.559
with all these women. I'm so excited. So around

00:49:29.559 --> 00:49:32.679
that time of Monique and then with Candice, I

00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:36.139
really, really disliked Giselle. And I think

00:49:36.139 --> 00:49:39.500
we finally got to a good place in my head last

00:49:39.500 --> 00:49:43.880
season. And so I'm okay with Giselle. But now

00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.800
with this coming at Stacey, I'm just like...

00:49:47.369 --> 00:49:50.570
no i don't like this i don't like you and i don't

00:49:50.570 --> 00:49:54.530
like i'm about to say my am for me for me it

00:49:54.530 --> 00:49:56.929
just comes down to the same thing that is bugging

00:49:56.929 --> 00:49:59.849
me about ashley is that neither giselle or ashley

00:49:59.849 --> 00:50:03.769
have anything to offer to the show other than

00:50:03.769 --> 00:50:06.969
getting in someone else's business and it's like

00:50:06.969 --> 00:50:10.409
give us something like we don't you don't have

00:50:10.409 --> 00:50:15.699
personal storylines yes yeah like Giselle's made

00:50:15.699 --> 00:50:18.480
up boyfriends too. She was not dating dude face

00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:20.079
from like summer house, winter house. I don't

00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:22.420
know what house it was. That was BS. She was

00:50:22.420 --> 00:50:24.380
not getting back together with Jamal. That was

00:50:24.380 --> 00:50:28.880
BS. stop it like pot meat kettle and she tries

00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.820
to ice out everyone and tries to like cast people

00:50:31.820 --> 00:50:34.519
i hate it like she tried to ice it i hate that

00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.559
wendy like you are not the casting director you're

00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:39.960
not the producer just be a good housewife because

00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:41.659
you can be a good housewife you can move story

00:50:41.659 --> 00:50:45.460
you're great but like don't try to move the pieces

00:50:45.460 --> 00:50:49.900
move the story not the pieces that's a good point

00:50:50.250 --> 00:50:53.190
You're right. I think you're experiencing like

00:50:53.190 --> 00:50:55.929
what I went through with Robin, like, and I think

00:50:55.929 --> 00:50:58.590
it was a season, Monique came in maybe, like

00:50:58.590 --> 00:51:01.070
where it was just like, it got very uncomfortable

00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:04.030
for me because I was like, I love her. What,

00:51:04.130 --> 00:51:07.809
what is she doing? Right, right. Yeah. Yeah.

00:51:07.869 --> 00:51:10.690
I mean, I mean, I definitely love Giselle 10

00:51:10.690 --> 00:51:13.829
times more without Robin right now. Like, I mean,

00:51:13.829 --> 00:51:17.699
I love Robin. You loved Robin. I thought Robin

00:51:17.699 --> 00:51:20.420
was great. Like, I just didn't like them. I didn't

00:51:20.420 --> 00:51:23.179
like them together. Because again, all they did

00:51:23.179 --> 00:51:26.039
was sit there and pile on other people and sit

00:51:26.039 --> 00:51:27.980
there and kind of just point out what everyone

00:51:27.980 --> 00:51:29.800
else was doing wrong. And then they themselves

00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:34.199
were doing worse, I feel. I feel the same way

00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.900
about her with Ashley. I wish she weren't so

00:51:36.900 --> 00:51:40.219
close with Ashley, to be honest, because something

00:51:40.219 --> 00:51:43.360
about Ashley just turns me off the way she lives

00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:46.300
for the drama. And she's like, she looks so happy

00:51:46.300 --> 00:51:49.940
to be fighting with people. I really don't like

00:51:49.940 --> 00:51:53.840
that. And so I think it brings out the mean girl

00:51:53.840 --> 00:51:57.079
in Giselle, which definitely exists within Giselle.

00:51:57.099 --> 00:52:01.920
I won't. We enable each other. Yeah. Yeah. I

00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:04.500
don't know. I feel like Ashley learned a long

00:52:04.500 --> 00:52:08.639
time ago from a very zealous producer. Just like,

00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:10.639
just get messy. We love you when you're messy.

00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:13.500
And she just knows the messier she is, the more

00:52:13.500 --> 00:52:16.139
she gets paid. And I love that she leans into

00:52:16.139 --> 00:52:18.219
it. I love that you can just see the gears turning,

00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:21.000
but at the same time, it's like you, it's good

00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:22.940
to be messy and it's good to get in other people's

00:52:22.940 --> 00:52:25.940
business, but you need to give us more than just

00:52:25.940 --> 00:52:28.880
three years of getting divorced. The same way

00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:30.699
Robin needed to give us more than three years

00:52:30.699 --> 00:52:32.860
of getting married. Let's just give us. something

00:52:32.860 --> 00:52:35.300
different every season. And then when something

00:52:35.300 --> 00:52:37.639
actually did happen with Juan, she, you know,

00:52:37.659 --> 00:52:42.380
she kept it secret. So... I'll never get over

00:52:42.380 --> 00:52:46.300
that. Yeah, that was a mess. I just, I don't

00:52:46.300 --> 00:52:50.179
know. Like, Giselle needs to know that... if

00:52:50.179 --> 00:52:53.579
there were more of a balance with like her personality

00:52:53.579 --> 00:52:56.099
versus her being messy, I think it would be so

00:52:56.099 --> 00:52:59.039
much better because I do live for her like little

00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:01.500
one liners where she's like just poking the bear,

00:53:01.739 --> 00:53:04.300
but like, it doesn't have to be all of that.

00:53:04.380 --> 00:53:06.280
You know, like we still like you as a person,

00:53:06.340 --> 00:53:08.500
even though you don't have your daughters anymore.

00:53:10.860 --> 00:53:12.539
You've run out of daughters. Now, what are you

00:53:12.539 --> 00:53:16.820
going to do? You know who I loved? It was Tia,

00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:23.179
the new girl. Oh, the Brits. Okay. Yeah. She

00:53:23.179 --> 00:53:30.519
was... We met her at the party. At the blooming

00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:35.239
party. Yes. Angel was the one we met first. I'm

00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:38.659
also a big fan of her. I think the two new housewives

00:53:38.659 --> 00:53:41.139
are going to be great. I do feel like the British

00:53:41.139 --> 00:53:44.239
one is 100 % going to be a one -season housewife,

00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.219
though. Something about her just feels like you're

00:53:47.219 --> 00:53:49.289
going to be a one -and -done. Yeah, I just feel

00:53:49.289 --> 00:53:53.389
like it's going to be so dramatic and fun. I

00:53:53.389 --> 00:53:56.869
can tell she just has that fire in her. I can

00:53:56.869 --> 00:53:58.630
see that. You feel like she's going to be one

00:53:58.630 --> 00:54:00.670
and done because she doesn't want to come back

00:54:00.670 --> 00:54:02.630
or just because she's just going to kind of be

00:54:02.630 --> 00:54:06.329
a dud of a kind of... Hang on, I wrote this down

00:54:06.329 --> 00:54:10.070
somewhere. Oh, okay. So this is our introduction

00:54:10.070 --> 00:54:12.250
to the other new housewife, Tia Glover. She's

00:54:12.250 --> 00:54:14.130
a luxury realtor and she's from London. So she'll

00:54:14.130 --> 00:54:15.889
be around for one season. It's just a vibe I

00:54:15.889 --> 00:54:19.170
got, I guess. I don't know. And I loved Angel.

00:54:19.429 --> 00:54:22.829
I think she could really be like a staple. Almost

00:54:22.829 --> 00:54:27.030
like a Charisse replacement because unfortunately

00:54:27.030 --> 00:54:28.769
I feel like we're never going to get Charisse

00:54:28.769 --> 00:54:33.090
back. I love Charisse. But I really liked Angel.

00:54:33.150 --> 00:54:38.449
I thought she was so relatable and cute. And

00:54:38.449 --> 00:54:45.750
her eyes are hot. It doesn't hurt. She was very

00:54:45.750 --> 00:54:51.559
nice. Yes, they do seem very, very nice. They

00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:55.039
give me the same vibes that Monique and Chris

00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:57.000
Samuels gave me when they first came on the show,

00:54:57.059 --> 00:54:58.579
where it's like, look how great we are and how

00:54:58.579 --> 00:55:00.320
proper and how wonderful and lovely. And then

00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:02.619
I feel like we're going to see it eventually.

00:55:02.699 --> 00:55:05.199
And I can't wait. I could tell Monique could

00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:08.599
fight from her first episode. So I agree, but

00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:13.739
yeah. You can see it. Yeah. Yeah. Was it the

00:55:13.739 --> 00:55:16.199
rapping? Is that how you figured it out? No,

00:55:16.219 --> 00:55:19.619
it's just her general demeanor and the way she

00:55:19.619 --> 00:55:25.079
gets so worked up about everything. Fair. I forgot

00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:28.099
about the rapping. Oh, my God. I loved the rap.

00:55:28.199 --> 00:55:31.489
I said, oh, she is Trina. Look at her. I also

00:55:31.489 --> 00:55:34.369
didn't know that I think I've said this on the

00:55:34.369 --> 00:55:38.289
podcast before. I didn't know that she and Chris

00:55:38.289 --> 00:55:40.829
Samuels were divorced until they dropped like

00:55:40.829 --> 00:55:44.210
the preview for this upcoming season. And I was

00:55:44.210 --> 00:55:52.329
like, I found out about you on our podcast. I

00:55:52.329 --> 00:55:54.190
heard it in the news too, because they're also

00:55:54.190 --> 00:55:59.079
on that love and marriage show per season. the

00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:01.300
Carlos King produces and then they went off that

00:56:01.300 --> 00:56:05.539
and then got divorced and so yeah do we know

00:56:05.539 --> 00:56:09.039
why was there tea there I don't know I hope she

00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:16.320
like rumors about her with her trainer oh which

00:56:16.320 --> 00:56:19.320
brings us back to Giselle and trying to say that

00:56:19.320 --> 00:56:21.500
that was happening and maybe one of those kids

00:56:21.500 --> 00:56:28.590
wasn't his see messy messy if she's right No,

00:56:28.630 --> 00:56:32.389
she's right. I mean, yeah, I'll go. I'll put

00:56:32.389 --> 00:56:34.909
a big plus in the Giselle column if she's right

00:56:34.909 --> 00:56:36.349
on that. It's just the sort of thing. It's like

00:56:36.349 --> 00:56:39.130
Giselle always insinuates things. And I know

00:56:39.130 --> 00:56:40.550
that's a really horrible thing. You can't really

00:56:40.550 --> 00:56:42.469
just come out and prove and say, so I get why.

00:56:42.630 --> 00:56:45.349
But like, yeah, I just want I just want some

00:56:45.349 --> 00:56:48.710
concrete like something. Also, Giselle loves

00:56:48.710 --> 00:56:51.510
to like throw the rock and hide her hand. You

00:56:51.510 --> 00:56:53.150
know, like what? What do you mean? We're talking

00:56:53.150 --> 00:56:58.920
about. She does. I'm talking about. So we head

00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:02.500
over to Ashley's divorce party, and I like the

00:57:02.500 --> 00:57:05.260
idea of a divorce. Oh, please go ahead. I was

00:57:05.260 --> 00:57:08.539
going to say, aside from introducing Angel, I

00:57:08.539 --> 00:57:11.639
felt like it was, let's give a moment for Kiarna

00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:17.800
and Angel to rag on Wendy. Yes. Just that whole,

00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.800
for Angel to be like, yeah, I know Wendy, kind

00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:24.849
of. She's several years older than me. We went

00:57:24.849 --> 00:57:27.809
to college together, but you know, several, several

00:57:27.809 --> 00:57:36.190
years. Wendy has such a history of being like,

00:57:36.369 --> 00:57:41.230
I don't really know that person that if I knew

00:57:41.230 --> 00:57:44.230
Wendy and I were going on Potomac, I would pretend

00:57:44.230 --> 00:57:46.309
I didn't know her because I know that she would

00:57:46.309 --> 00:57:48.309
pretend she didn't know me. If that makes sense.

00:57:48.530 --> 00:57:57.280
Yes. Yeah. I forgot about Mecca. Exactly. It's

00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:00.679
like, so I wondered if that was why, if she was

00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:04.940
like, yeah, I knew of her. She was like my big

00:58:04.940 --> 00:58:09.659
sister's roommate or whatever. I kind of understand

00:58:09.659 --> 00:58:13.519
why, because Wendy is very much like, I'm a doctor.

00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:16.559
run with the elites. I don't know who that woman

00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:22.320
is. Not in my circle. Remind me why Kiarna has

00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:26.539
beef with Wendy. I forget. She knows. I think

00:58:26.539 --> 00:58:30.400
they're friends, but Kiarna was upset because

00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:36.440
her med spa beauty lab situation was sponsoring

00:58:36.440 --> 00:58:39.940
an event. She told Wendy about it. Turns out

00:58:39.940 --> 00:58:44.619
Wendy was a speaker at the event. And didn't

00:58:44.619 --> 00:58:48.139
say that to Kiarna. And then also when Kiarna

00:58:48.139 --> 00:58:51.320
showed up to said event, Wendy didn't acknowledge

00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:55.059
her. Wendy was on stage. Wendy was on stage speaking.

00:58:55.619 --> 00:59:00.000
Yes, that's what Kiarna leaves out. And she didn't

00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:03.559
go, oh, hi, baby. What do you want? I want to

00:59:03.559 --> 00:59:05.260
give a shout out to my girl Kiarna in the audience.

00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.519
I see you, girl. Hey, she's walking in late.

00:59:08.539 --> 00:59:15.199
That girl with the crown, that's my Kiarna. nice

00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:21.179
baby we so we're at ashley's uh divorce party

00:59:21.179 --> 00:59:24.039
and i i love the idea of a divorce party i think

00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:27.599
burn it to the ground i love i love divorce so

00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:31.019
happy for that when my ex and i broke up we were

00:59:31.019 --> 00:59:32.739
together for like eight or nine years almost

00:59:32.739 --> 00:59:35.039
and we were talking about like we should just

00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:37.000
have a divorce party and we always talk about

00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.909
it We never got around to doing it, mainly because

00:59:39.909 --> 00:59:41.389
once we stopped living together, we were like,

00:59:41.469 --> 00:59:42.949
oh, I don't want to see your face again. And

00:59:42.949 --> 00:59:44.630
you weren't married. And we weren't married,

00:59:44.690 --> 00:59:46.869
but we were gay men together for almost nine

00:59:46.869 --> 00:59:49.809
years. You only had one husband. No, you're my

00:59:49.809 --> 00:59:52.010
only husband and the only one I'll ever have.

00:59:54.250 --> 00:59:56.710
I love it's a divorce party. And I love it for

00:59:56.710 --> 00:59:59.650
Ashley, too, especially since it is like a new

00:59:59.650 --> 01:00:03.119
era for her because. like andy cohen's asked

01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:05.500
nothing of her except where is your divorce for

01:00:05.500 --> 01:00:12.260
the past um sharisa got this party and i was

01:00:12.260 --> 01:00:14.880
so happy to see her yeah what were you gonna

01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:17.539
say you think we're gonna see ashley actually

01:00:17.539 --> 01:00:20.039
do some real dating this season are we still

01:00:20.039 --> 01:00:22.760
gonna get some weird love hotel rejects and stuff

01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:24.980
like that or or the what would they call the

01:00:24.980 --> 01:00:28.699
guy last year the the blonde oh the the young

01:00:28.699 --> 01:00:37.079
guy yeah um yeah anyway he's poor man something

01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:43.039
or another jack something jack it's all right

01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:50.889
yeah And then Stacey decides that she's going

01:00:50.889 --> 01:00:52.550
to be the bigger person and show up to support

01:00:52.550 --> 01:00:55.269
Ashley. And she needs to tell Ashley that. And

01:00:55.269 --> 01:00:59.909
I hated that. I didn't need it. But, I mean,

01:00:59.949 --> 01:01:02.369
good for her to show up. I mean, so many other

01:01:02.369 --> 01:01:05.110
housewives would not after that big fallout.

01:01:05.949 --> 01:01:08.110
True. They'd be like, well, I'm not going to

01:01:08.110 --> 01:01:10.130
come support you. Why would I? You know, they'd

01:01:10.130 --> 01:01:11.889
make it about them. You think I'm a liar. I mean,

01:01:11.909 --> 01:01:13.809
not that Stacey didn't make it about her when

01:01:13.809 --> 01:01:21.320
she got there. Yeah. Who was that? I was glad

01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:24.679
she was there, not only for the mask. That's

01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:29.159
fair. You know. Stacey, or no, Wendy shows up

01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:33.000
looking incredible. Like, God almighty. That

01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:36.519
dress, it was like that pale blue, like, tufted

01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:39.960
thing. What was the dress? Like, all of it. Like,

01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:44.789
God. It was like the dress that Carrie wore like

01:01:44.789 --> 01:01:48.250
season six of Sex and the City in Paris where

01:01:48.250 --> 01:01:50.650
she just went to the bathroom and didn't leave

01:01:50.650 --> 01:01:52.769
the bedroom which is like because she's waiting

01:01:52.769 --> 01:01:54.989
for the Russian who never showed up and it was

01:01:54.989 --> 01:01:56.670
just like just for that scene she wore that dress.

01:01:56.730 --> 01:02:01.030
It was a lot of dress and I liked it. Yes. But

01:02:01.030 --> 01:02:03.329
they're 100 % setting Wendy and Angel up to be

01:02:03.329 --> 01:02:06.369
rivals this season. Like the way that you saw

01:02:06.369 --> 01:02:09.230
them interacting like 100 % they are going to.

01:02:09.659 --> 01:02:11.619
fight this season. I hate that, because I love

01:02:11.619 --> 01:02:15.699
them both. They're much better fights to be had.

01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:18.340
Maybe it'll be a good arc, so by the end of the

01:02:18.340 --> 01:02:21.219
season, they'll be in a good place. Yeah, maybe.

01:02:21.340 --> 01:02:23.800
I think she and Kiana aren't long from this friendship.

01:02:24.539 --> 01:02:28.699
Oh, no. I'm sorry. Wendy tends to leave scores

01:02:28.699 --> 01:02:31.260
dirt, though. I don't think that they're gonna

01:02:31.260 --> 01:02:34.940
make up at the end of it. I don't know. I don't

01:02:34.940 --> 01:02:39.110
think it's gonna be an arc. It'll be interesting

01:02:39.110 --> 01:02:42.510
to see, for sure. I mean, I'll watch it either

01:02:42.510 --> 01:02:47.170
way. I love them. Together, we're separate. I

01:02:47.170 --> 01:02:48.889
think when Kiarna and Wendy were having that

01:02:48.889 --> 01:02:51.130
conversation, and Wendy was looking at her like,

01:02:51.269 --> 01:02:55.690
what are you saying? What are you doing? What

01:02:55.690 --> 01:02:59.329
are you trying to do? Why are you upset? She

01:02:59.329 --> 01:03:01.769
was really very puzzled of like, what's the issue?

01:03:03.389 --> 01:03:06.090
Normally I'm not on Wendy's side of things. I

01:03:06.090 --> 01:03:11.090
just, I love her, but she's very like elitist

01:03:11.090 --> 01:03:14.630
to me. And she just rubs me the wrong way. But

01:03:14.630 --> 01:03:17.949
this time I could, because most of the time I'm

01:03:17.949 --> 01:03:20.269
like, you knew exactly what you were doing, girl.

01:03:20.369 --> 01:03:22.250
And you are pretending. And most of the time

01:03:22.250 --> 01:03:23.750
she'll get in the confessional and be like, yeah,

01:03:23.769 --> 01:03:27.690
I did that. But this time it seemed like she

01:03:27.690 --> 01:03:30.230
genuinely, it was like out of left field for

01:03:30.230 --> 01:03:37.909
her. Yes. Yes. I don't know. They obviously did

01:03:37.909 --> 01:03:40.869
not talk like in the in between seasons because

01:03:40.869 --> 01:03:44.710
she was just like, we have beef now. Not one

01:03:44.710 --> 01:03:50.190
of them spoke to each other. No. And then we

01:03:50.190 --> 01:03:53.269
close it out with we cut over to Giselle, Ashley

01:03:53.269 --> 01:03:56.030
and Stacey. And it's so incredibly awkward. And

01:03:56.030 --> 01:03:58.690
apparently Stacey's had bad breath the entire

01:03:58.690 --> 01:04:02.460
time she's been on the show. And that's my personal

01:04:02.460 --> 01:04:04.719
hell. Like if I had bad breath and like I found

01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:06.559
out on national television, I'd kill myself.

01:04:06.900 --> 01:04:10.739
There's no way. That's really sad. As much as

01:04:10.739 --> 01:04:12.860
I kind of want that to be like a detail that

01:04:12.860 --> 01:04:15.159
is true. It's also just screams like just mean

01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:17.199
girl. Like I have nothing better to say other

01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:21.039
than your breath stinks. You stink. Yeah. Okay.

01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:23.800
Well, no, she actually did have something better

01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:27.590
to say because. it immediately escalates when

01:04:27.590 --> 01:04:30.389
uh stacy pulls ashley aside to ashley screaming

01:04:30.389 --> 01:04:33.309
with your size 11 feet gallop away oh my gosh

01:04:33.309 --> 01:04:35.070
what's happening out there get out of here with

01:04:35.070 --> 01:04:43.389
your size 11 shoes okay and did the actual gallop

01:04:43.389 --> 01:04:48.900
motion yeah and then um stacy pulled back to

01:04:48.900 --> 01:04:51.619
ashley by calling her the devil and i just know

01:04:51.619 --> 01:04:54.460
that when stacy said that i was like oh she thinks

01:04:54.460 --> 01:04:56.599
that's a real insult and she thinks that she's

01:04:56.599 --> 01:05:02.179
getting her and i i feel bad yeah yeah you're

01:05:02.179 --> 01:05:04.260
like you're like she might as well be oh fiddle

01:05:04.260 --> 01:05:06.920
sticks like that would be a good insult like

01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.619
on beverly hills they would never recover and

01:05:09.619 --> 01:05:11.659
talk about it for like 10 episodes oh my god

01:05:11.659 --> 01:05:15.690
it's like oh you call me the devil Was it Beverly

01:05:15.690 --> 01:05:18.130
Hills or is that just our old brunch conversation

01:05:18.130 --> 01:05:20.670
we'd have? Is it worse? Oh, it was on Beverly

01:05:20.670 --> 01:05:22.710
Hills. It was. Is it worse to be called the C

01:05:22.710 --> 01:05:25.849
word or to be called evil? And because on Beverly

01:05:25.849 --> 01:05:27.670
Hills, they were like really debating that. And

01:05:27.670 --> 01:05:30.329
most everyone we talked to is pretty much like

01:05:30.329 --> 01:05:32.829
call me evil all day long. I don't really care.

01:05:33.010 --> 01:05:35.769
Like every other all the time. Honestly, I don't

01:05:35.769 --> 01:05:39.389
care. Neither one would really offend me, especially

01:05:39.389 --> 01:05:46.260
on the Real Housewives. Yeah. Like on Housewives,

01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:48.800
I expect some good compound insult. Like it better

01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:51.340
be like a string of eight different curse words

01:05:51.340 --> 01:05:54.380
strung together to make a new language. And then

01:05:54.380 --> 01:05:59.019
I might be offended. And calling her an imp because

01:05:59.019 --> 01:06:04.099
she's short. Come on, Stacey. An imp was already...

01:06:04.099 --> 01:06:10.440
Candice used the imp insult the best. Candice

01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:13.039
is the one who would like... Would really go

01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:17.980
in on Ashley and her forehead. Yeah. Missing

01:06:17.980 --> 01:06:20.920
Candace is one thing, but did any of us miss

01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:24.280
Mia on this episode? Nope. I forgot about Mia.

01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:28.840
She's dead to me. They mentioned her very briefly.

01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:34.380
And they kept it moving. Yeah. Like I don't miss

01:06:34.380 --> 01:06:36.380
it at all. It was like one shot from the reunion

01:06:36.380 --> 01:06:38.760
and that was it. And it didn't have anything

01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:40.940
to do with her. It was about, you know, the whole

01:06:40.940 --> 01:06:43.219
Stacey TJ thing. She's happened to be there.

01:06:43.500 --> 01:06:49.179
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I really wanted to

01:06:49.179 --> 01:06:53.440
love Mia, but then. She showed her true colors

01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:57.519
and I didn't like them. That's the thing. I wanted

01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:01.360
to love her and she's trash. She's trash, darling.

01:07:02.139 --> 01:07:06.219
Yeah. She's wonderful. And without Mia, we're

01:07:06.219 --> 01:07:08.199
not going to have a Jacqueline. So we'll be good.

01:07:08.559 --> 01:07:12.300
A quick shot of Jacqueline and I'm like, oh,

01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:15.320
I guess no Jacqueline anymore. Because Jacqueline

01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:18.460
screwed herself. Jacqueline was just with Mia,

01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.579
didn't make friends with the other woman. Jacqueline

01:07:21.579 --> 01:07:26.500
hitched her horse to the wrong wagon. Yes. Yeah.

01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:32.079
She acted like a husband acts on Real Housewives.

01:07:32.300 --> 01:07:36.159
You know what I mean? How dare you kiss that

01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:39.599
woman? Yeah. I just forgot about them fucking,

01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:44.260
oh my god. Jesus god. It's not even like I think

01:07:44.260 --> 01:07:47.360
they have this weird lesbian relationship or

01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:49.360
anything that they were trying to hide. I don't

01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:54.639
think that. But she just was so protective and

01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:59.179
strange towards Mia. I don't know. Don't miss

01:07:59.179 --> 01:08:03.460
that. That was weird energy. The whole thing

01:08:03.460 --> 01:08:05.599
was weird. That entire season was weird, that'd

01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:09.920
be fair. Yeah. When they went to Miami and like

01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:13.980
they showered together. Yeah. And that was the

01:08:13.980 --> 01:08:16.859
beginning of the whole thing. Yeah. That was

01:08:16.859 --> 01:08:20.720
the most normal part of it, I would argue. And

01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:25.380
then her old husband was like, I'm mentally ill

01:08:25.380 --> 01:08:27.819
and that's why I'm mean. And I was like, okay.

01:08:28.659 --> 01:08:33.000
Yeah. Real dark, real quick. Yeah. Like this

01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:38.619
is not, this is not. eye candy, brain candy anymore.

01:08:38.859 --> 01:08:42.520
Like this is too deep. I can't do it. Can I ask

01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:44.720
how much you're looking forward to Ashley Darby

01:08:44.720 --> 01:08:54.260
drag kinging again? I love that she does it and

01:08:54.260 --> 01:08:56.819
it happens, but I'm just like this is like your

01:08:56.819 --> 01:09:00.300
entire personality ends up becoming one episode

01:09:00.300 --> 01:09:03.470
of it. I'm fine. well and then in the trailer

01:09:03.470 --> 01:09:06.189
when she's like you know accusing she's in full

01:09:06.189 --> 01:09:09.090
drag king and she's accusing stacy of being weird

01:09:09.090 --> 01:09:14.649
and it's like ma 'am it's her yeah i love that

01:09:14.649 --> 01:09:19.390
very oxymoron her beard that's here's the thing

01:09:19.390 --> 01:09:26.560
about her drag king it's not Good. I've seen

01:09:26.560 --> 01:09:29.640
much better drag kings. If you're watching the

01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:32.680
Great British Bake Off, they have a drag king

01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:39.340
on there. She kills it. I don't know if you do

01:09:39.340 --> 01:09:42.180
that for drag kings like you do for queens. Kills

01:09:42.180 --> 01:09:48.579
it. I don't want to shit on her. Expression.

01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:53.340
I'll shit on that art because that's not art.

01:09:53.500 --> 01:09:55.680
I just want to shit on her expression and also

01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:59.840
her allyship of sorts. Well, she's a member of

01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:02.859
the community. She's bisexual. And I love that

01:10:02.859 --> 01:10:06.899
she's showing that on this show. And I want her

01:10:06.899 --> 01:10:10.739
to keep singing and drag king -ing. I think,

01:10:10.760 --> 01:10:13.539
if any, this is going to sound so mean, but there's

01:10:13.539 --> 01:10:16.090
no other way to say it. I think it's inspiring

01:10:16.090 --> 01:10:19.569
to watch someone who's not the best at their

01:10:19.569 --> 01:10:24.630
craft persevere. That's why we keep doing the

01:10:24.630 --> 01:10:29.949
podcast. No, we podcast. We all podcast better

01:10:29.949 --> 01:10:35.350
than Ashley sings. To issue a public apology

01:10:35.350 --> 01:10:42.109
for a performance is insane. See, poor Roberta

01:10:42.109 --> 01:10:49.060
Flack. Rest in peace. That just. Killing me softly

01:10:49.060 --> 01:10:53.199
indeed. And on that note, they're about to put

01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:57.560
me out of this study room at school, so we should

01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:03.560
probably close this out. But I love this, you

01:11:03.560 --> 01:11:05.560
guys. I want to do this for the Beverly Hills

01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:07.420
premiere. I want to do it for all the premieres.

01:11:07.420 --> 01:11:09.220
I love this with you guys. You guys are so much

01:11:09.220 --> 01:11:12.010
fun. Tell them where they can find you. No, we're

01:11:12.010 --> 01:11:14.670
online at husbandswatchinghousewives .com and

01:11:14.670 --> 01:11:16.630
wherever you get your podcasts, YouTube, Spotify,

01:11:16.949 --> 01:11:19.310
all that stuff. Instagram, Facebook, all the

01:11:19.310 --> 01:11:23.149
TikTok, TikTok, that stuff. Husbands Watching

01:11:23.149 --> 01:11:25.949
Housewives, type that in anywhere, just not Pornhub.

01:11:25.949 --> 01:11:34.250
We can't guarantee those results. And Emma will

01:11:34.250 --> 01:11:39.039
close this out the same way we always do. Thank

01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:40.640
you for listening. Thank you for being here.

01:11:40.739 --> 01:11:45.100
We love you from Indy to where was the newest

01:11:45.100 --> 01:11:47.000
one? I feel like we got one in Brazil again,

01:11:47.140 --> 01:11:49.840
but from Indy to wherever you are, we love you

01:11:49.840 --> 01:11:52.939
and thank you for being here. We love you. We'll

01:11:52.939 --> 01:11:56.000
see you next time. Thank you again. Husbands

01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.800
watching Housewives. This was so fun. Thanks

01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:00.399
for having us. Super fun. Thank you. I'm ready

01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:05.359
for bed. Me too. We'll see you guys later. Thanks

01:12:05.359 --> 01:12:06.960
guys. Bye guys. Bye.