Hi, I'm Travis. I'm Emma. And this is Bestie
Approved. This is weird because we're not together
today, like in real life. We're not. We're filming
remotely so that we can have guests eventually.
Yeah, it's a little practice for us, but it's
okay. What's the last song you listened to? I'm
laughing because I know who it was. Let's Go
by Juicy J and Wiz Khalifa. Okay, sure. Can I
just say Juicy J is a musician and an icon. Like,
he's actually so talented. Do you remember the
remakes of Die Young that he did with Kesha?
Yes. I think about that every day. He's produced
music for everyone. He's an artist, and I don't
think he gets the appreciation he deserves. He
doesn't. What's the last song you listened to?
Walk Me Home by Pink. I actually really love
that song. Do you want to know what... What's
your thing about Pink? I don't know. What's your
thing about Pink? Like, I want to love her so
bad, but I just don't. I don't know why. Have
you ever seen... I think it's Trixie Mattel and...
Oh, God. Who's the one that hated Bob the Drag
Queen on her season? I don't remember. It doesn't
remember. It tricks you into telling, how do
you feel about Pink? Now, maybe it's Bob the
Drag Queen asking. I don't remember. But the
Drag Queen's like, hate Pink. Hate her. And then
Pink shows up on the screen. I could be completely
misremembering it, but I feel like they brought
her out. I don't remember. It does not matter.
It's been a weird, weird week. I think she's
very talented, and she flies, and that's beautiful.
And I, again, wish I loved her, but I just don't.
I do love Pink. I think I love her. I love Pink.
Pregnancy update is really fast this week. Please
go for it. I'm tired and miserable and fat. That's
okay. How big is little August? Like what size
is he? So if he were going according to the regular
growth chart, he would be as big as a spaghetti
squash, which is approximately 14 inches and
two pounds. But if he's still two weeks ahead,
he's as big as a head of lettuce, which is 15
inches and two and a quarter pounds. Allegedly.
Sure. Whatever they say. When are you due? Like,
what's the date? Due December 10th. I'm hoping
for more, like, Thanksgiving time, though. Okay.
Thanksgiving is, like... two weeks almost exactly
before my due date and i have an appointment
with my ob the day before thanksgiving and i'm
just hoping that's the one where she's like let's
get it out here yeah are you like i i mean we
talked this morning i i still can't get over
the fact that like they can detect like how much
of the like blood is is not yours i like that's
wild to me yeah like the labs you get when you
first like the first time you get your blood
drawn when you're pregnant i was only 10 weeks
and yeah like one of the results is like what
percentage of that blood sample was the baby's
blood and then they can test the baby's blood
for like all of the genetic things that you test
for including their sex like It's crazy. The
way that like, I don't know how, what, 60 years
ago we were like prescribing people cocaine for
like medical treatments. And now it's like, oh,
look at everything we can do. It's insane. And
it feels very much as a pregnant woman. It feels
very much like, I don't know. I just work here.
Like. Like you're the one saying, I don't know,
I just work here or like that's how you're experiencing
it? Yeah, like I just work here. I don't know
how anything works. How can you? That's above
me. That's a doctor's job. Have you seen the
dude robe? I looked at it briefly because it
was in our notes. I don't understand it. So this
is an ongoing thing where... masculinity is so
fragile that we have to put dude and like like
dude wipes you can't just use like a wet wipe
on your asshole you have to use a dude wipe you
can't just wear a normal robe you have to wear
a dude robe and it has to be manly and like i
don't like what's innovative about it though
it just has like sweat shirt like hoodie strings
yes like the whole the whole thing is and it's
like i I saw an ad pop up on my Instagram and
I was like, this is satire. There's no way this
is a real thing. It's a rope. It is a rope. Yeah.
And it's $120. Yes. It is wild. And then I saw
the CEO talking to someone about it. He's like...
Yeah, I saw my wife wearing a robe, and I was
never a robe guy, but I really wanted to be a
robe guy. So I decided, how can I make this better?
And how can I, like, manify it, basically? And
he put... Men have been wearing robes for literally
centuries. I don't understand it. I don't get
it, but it's the most insane thing. They're $118,
but this guy, like... He was so all in on it.
He went on Shark Tank to pitch this to the Sharks,
asked for $150 ,000 for an 18 % stake in the
company. Thank God they all said no. I hope they
left him off of that stage. I couldn't find the
episode of Shark Tank that it said he was on,
so I have a feeling it did not go well. It might
not have even aired. He might have just aired
himself out saying he went on Shark Tank. No,
like, there's a verifiable thing where, like,
the Shark Tank, like, archive has, like, a record
of him being there. They didn't air his. And
that weren't quite that. Yeah, but, okay, so.
That is actually insane. I got Kenny a robe for,
like, his birthday or Christmas, like, three
years ago. They make like UGG makes robes that
are like very unisex. A robe is not a gendered
thing. No. It's crazy. But I think the thing
that bothers me more is that he is like charging
$120 for it. I went to Alibaba. I found the supplier
of the robe. They're $19 .88 from Alibaba. Ugh.
Like, this man is out here, like, really just
trying it in this economy. The price is, like,
whatever. Because I love a good robe. And, like,
Kenny and I kind of share one that's UGG. And
I'm sure that was an exorbitant expense. But
I wear a robe all the time. So, like, I don't
care. But it's, like, why? I just can't get over
gendering a robe. I want to wear a robe. I want
to feel manly. Someone should have just introduced
him to Japanese culture in general, and he would
have been okay. Just go. This whole thing of
needing it to be masculine, needing it to be
manly, I'm like, who's it for? Because it's not
for anyone else but you. Right. And it's been
manly. Look at fucking samurais. Oh, my God.
What are you talking about? You could wear a
silk robe and still be a man. Yeah, it's okay.
It's only an inch and a half long anyway. Yeah.
I love that for him. Have you ever used natural
deodorant? I tried, okay? I tried the natural
deodorant thing. I just can't do it. I refuse
to stink. Give me the aluminum. I'll put tinfoil
in my armpits if I have to. I don't. So I didn't
know that I was buying deodorant. I was at Meijer.
I saw this like bottle of, it looked like lotion.
I was like, oh, this is great. And then when
I was putting it on, I was like, this is like
not the consistency of lotion. And I look at
it and it's like total body deodorant. I love
a body deodorant because like under my boobs
right now, under my belly or like in the thigh
crease area. Beautiful. Love her. Okay. I mean.
I don't think I smell bad, but it's natural deodorant.
I like it. And I just like, I did not know what
I was buying. And I'm like, now I feel like I'm
like a barefoot hippie because I'm wearing natural
deodorant. Are you wearing natural deodorant
in your armpits? Well, I didn't realize that.
So I was like, I put it on my armpits. Like I
like put it and I just like rub it on or whatever.
Yeah. And it, I mean. Kenny uses natural deodorant
and he's fine, but apparently Asian people, and
I know that that is literally billions and billions
of people I'm generalizing here, but Asian people
in general have like a gene that makes them not
have bad BO. That is a thing like that, like
Italians don't have that. I can definitively
tell you that. No, but like, it's crazy. And
when you think about it, Like, at least in my
experiences with Asian people over the years,
yeah, they don't really have BO. I've never,
like... He can get over it with using natural
deodorant, but, like, I mean, maybe, like, I
cannot... I cannot use it probably when I'm at
the gym. That would be very hard, I feel like,
for everyone around me, because that would be...
Oh, 100%. Like... On days where I'm just chilling,
I could probably get away with not wearing deodorant
at all. But if I'm going to sweat, I need all
the chemicals. Give me clinical strength. Give
me everything. I didn't realize that's what they
were putting in deodorant. But also, you know,
we put that shit in our bodies all the fucking
time. It's like increases your risk of breast
cancer is the thing. Sure. Well, you know, so
does. everything else i what aren't we eating
plastic and stuff i don't care yeah um speaking
of eating plastic uh i'm pretty sure i swallowed
a pair of quest or crust white strips the other
night that's fine i put them on it and i didn't
mean to fall asleep but i woke up and they weren't
there anymore It's fine. It's been a weird week,
man. I don't know. What else is going on? I think
it'll be okay. It's going to be okay. I really
do. Can you imagine? What? It just reminds me
of when a dog gets into something they're not
supposed to eat and it gets all twisted up in
their stomachs and you have to go to the vet
and get it out. I feel like I, this is so stupid.
Um, my dad loves Boomer more than anything, my
dog. And like he, um, He like will buy him those
rope toys like and cuz boomer loves playing with
the rope toys and I'm like Please don't buy those
for him because he does nothing but rip them
apart and like eat the rope and it's hell on
earth Matt's like all we've been buying rope
toys for the dog since Since the beginning of
time whatever and I'm like, okay great and then
I Forced my dad like when I went to the big boomer
up to come outside while boomer pooped and I
was like this is why He cannot have rope toys
because I have to pull rope out of his butt Oh,
my God. That's what I was going to complain about
today. Max, my beloved Pomeranian poodle mix.
He really just looks like a poodle. Has butt
issues. Okay. You know, it's been stuck in my
head. This is such a tangent. But have you seen
this thing on TikTok where people are singing
to the beat of Chopped and Screwed? Like, whatever
they want to say, they're making up their own
lyrics to T -Pain's Chopped and Screwed. Okay.
Well, my dog's got butt issues, and that had
been stuck in my head to the beat of Chopped
and Screwed. I don't even want to get into too
much detail, but just know that yesterday, Kenny,
who is very squeamish, and I, who am pregnant,
had to sacrifice Kenny's huge trimmer to trim
the dog's butt. No. Because it is $80 to take
him to the vet, and I wasn't willing to make
it through the evening with his situation. So
we spent an hour before dinner yesterday shaving
his butt. What did you have to shave his... Like,
what was in it? Okay, so he's a poodle, so his
hair grows long. Yeah. And he gets groomed every
six weeks, which is fine for the rest of his
body. His hair's not even long. Here, I'll show
you, even though people can't see this. You can
vouch. He's been much furrier than that. Right.
But what happens is, if his butt hair gets too
curly, and then he has... A less than solid poop.
It just gets like matted to his butt. And like
the bottom of his tail. And eventually like he
can't even poop. And it's just like poop butt
everywhere all over the house. And yeah. So.
I too understand the struggle of your butt hair
growing faster than the rest of your hair. Yeah.
I just. Poor Max. And poor me. Poor you indeed,
yes. Poor all of you. And I have really taken
him to the vet and paid the $80 at least four
times. And every single time they're like, you
should really just buy some tremors and do it
yourself. And every time I've been like, that
is my worst nightmare. That's actually my worst
nightmare and I would rather die. So we're going
to increase his grooming frequency to be one
instead of every six weeks. He doesn't get it
all the time, but I just... What would you like
to complain about today? Burger King. So... Oh,
Burger King. I love Burger King. The thing that
I hate is when you go to Burger King or literally
any fast food place and they act like the, if
they give you a sauce, if they don't charge you
for it, it will come out as a line item on their
very own paycheck. And I'm happy to pay the 50
cents or whatever it costs for like ranch and
honey mustard. I'm happy to pay it. The thing
that bothers me, though, is that like when I
pay it, I see it on the receipt and it's not
in the bag. And I'm already on 465 driving to
wherever else I'm going and I can't turn around.
And so I have to eat my chicken fries without
honey mustard. And it's like the joy has left
the earth. Yeah. And I don't know what to do
with it. Because that's happened to me three
or four times in the last two weeks. Oh, my God.
Every time I get Taco Bell. I have to have sour
cream on top of my Mexican pizza or it just does
not hit the same. That makes sense. Every single
time I've gotten it in the past, I don't know,
four months, they have not put sour cream on
it. What are we doing? What are we doing, Taco
Bell? It's an extra. I'm paying for that. And
you're happy to pay for it. Literally, whatever
you need. Please put the sour cream on the pizza.
Yeah. That's just where we're at. So I would
ask Burger King, please get it together because
I'm paying for the sauce. I'm happy to pay for
that. I'll pay more for the sauce. I don't care
because I would argue that the sauce is probably
half of the experience. And there are some places
that really understand sauce people. They take
it very seriously. See Chick -fil -A, see Wingstop.
They do not play about getting you your sauce.
And I appreciate that. I really do. Are you ready
for Reality Roundup? Yeah. Dear listener, today's
going to be a shorter episode because it's been
a wild week for both me and Emma. We'll get into
it eventually. It's been a wild week. But I also
woke up super late today, so it's just going
to be a shorter day, and that's just going to
have to be okay. And that's probably preferred
for some people, you know what I mean? Honestly,
probably. Nobody needs four hours. What did you
say? I said nobody needs a four -hour episode
anyway. No. No, they don't. Did you watch the
trailer for the Real Housewives of Salt Lake
City season six? Of course I did. Oh, my God.
So Lisa Barlow in the trailer called Bronwyn.
What did she call Bronwyn? I don't remember Bronwyn's
last name, but she called Bronwyn a gout dick
sucker. And I. I just know that, like. everything
will be okay. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City
is back. And one thing I love about Miss Lisa
Barlow is she never misses an opportunity to
take it straight to hell. I've said this about
her before, but she just literally doesn't have
a filter in her brain. Whatever she is thinking
comes right on out. And that one was especially
funny for me because you know who has gout? Kenny.
Well, you... And Bronwyn, share partners that
have gout. I just, like, what a funny thing to
say. You gout dick sucker. So many people have
gout. I don't know what to say. And I don't love
that, like, she said that, but I do love that.
I do love that that's coming. I'm so excited
about that. Yeah. Oh, also, Karen Huber is now
a free woman officially. Which is insane. Bravo
cameras were, I guess, out at the Montgomery
County Detention Center in Rockville, Maryland.
She served six months for a DUI that she pled
not guilty to and was found guilty of because
there were cameras and body cam footage. And
she also ran her car over a median and into a
tree or a sign or something. And she said, I
was obviously crying. I was crying because my
mom died. Well, but that was the second story,
right? Because at first she was like, there was
a deer. And then she was like, I was emotional.
My parents just died. And then it was like this
whole thing. But then we got the body cam footage
and the footage of her like being interrogated.
And it's like, you've never been that obliterated
in your life, Karen, your long, long life. Oh,
my God. That was good stuff. I haven't seen the
footage of her coming out, though. Have you?
I haven't seen anything. I saw pictures. I didn't
see videos. I did see the video of her, like,
driving away waving. And I was like, oh, she
believes that she is vindicated. Yeah. But, like,
how do you feel vindicated after you just got
out of prison? It wasn't even, like, a cunty
sentence. Like, Martha Stewart had a cunty stint
in prison. You didn't, Karen. This was all very
ugly and sad. I have to be real. I don't think
Karen lives in the same world that you and I
live in. I don't think that she is present and
of her higher self. I don't know. No, no, no.
She doesn't because she doesn't understand that
she could have killed someone. I don't think
she thinks she did anything wrong. Which is crazy.
And, like, here's the God's honest truth. Like,
D .U .S. happened. Like, that is awful and terrible.
I do think if she had just come out and said,
you guys, I fucked up. I fucked up bad. Like,
I was out partying, whatever. Like, I fucked
up bad. Own it. Like, you didn't hurt anyone.
Everything's okay. Jesus Christ, the way that
she said, well, we have the right to appeal this.
She dressed herself and Ray in all white and
had that little video sent to the reunion about
how her truth will come out. Bitch, I saw the
truth. I would rather she had pulled a Jen Shaw
and called someone, gave them a fake name, and
taken their credit card number than do this.
That's what I'm saying. Be like Martha Stewart
or Jen Shaw, where you're just kind of... You
couldn't have killed anyone. Like, whatever.
I don't know. And at least own it like they both
did. Be like, yeah, I just got out of prison.
You know who else did this on Potomac? I guess
Monique, where she wrecked her Bentley and she
said, yeah, I'm just so tired. And, like, I guess
Ashley said, like, at that lunch right before
that, they'd had, like, seven wines. And I was
just like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that.
But they just. Unfortunately, this is like a
Real Housewives disease. They become, like, very
self -important and they don't realize. How fucked
up that is. It really is sad because you're talking
to people with so many resources. Absolutely
the resources to call an Uber. I bet you could
call Andy Cohen himself and be like, Andy, I'm
fucked up and I need a car. And Andy would have
been like, well, I don't want to lose you on
the reunion. 100%. We're going to send you a
car. yeah to take you home like you have so many
resources and you're deciding to do something
so reckless and dangerous it's bad i i hate it
and like but i also i don't like karen i'm gonna
be super real i don't like her on the show anymore
like she's got she's done the same way that um
vicki gunvalson went for me where um theresa
judice went for me where it's like they believe
that the show is them they're not on a show anymore
it's their show And I stopped liking Karen after
that because I was just like, oh, you're not,
it's not fun anymore. I used to like Karen. Acting.
Yeah. Yeah. She never feels real. And I don't
like this whole thing that she's done for a year.
The last like two or three years, seasons, where
she's been like, I am neutral in all arguments.
I don't like Karen. Blah, blah, blah. That, what?
Ew. You're a Real Housewife. Have an opinion,
girl. I don't know. Literally. And then today
we're talking about season one, episode five
of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. We
are going to finish that lunch. My gala luncheon.
Oh, yeah. And same thing I've ever heard in Salt
Lake City, Utah. I think about this luncheon
all the time where I'm just like, these people
in Salt Lake City were just handed a gift with
these women. And I don't think they knew what
they were getting. But like, I know Valter. And
really, really, I hope he appreciated it when
he was still here. Because I know he's looking
down from heaven looking at us talking about
this being like, I know I did that. But let's
see. Let's see. Let's see. Okay, so Mary and
Jen go back and forth for a little bit at the
right. what oh they go back and forth while the
uh while vaulter is at the end of the table being
very intense about garnishing a drink or something
like i remember he was just like into like whatever
he was doing and there was a lot of arm movement
he's a mixologist baby you know he is a god among
men um mary tells jen uh she can leave so jen
storms off and then heather chases after jen
to calm her down and then lisa does a pretty
good job of I'm saying that's just, like, rinse
and repeat of Whitney's party. I don't understand.
This is an ongoing thing, and, like, I do...
We get into it eventually, but, like, Heather
does talk about, like, I was afraid of Jen. Like,
and so it's a lot of that's coming out here.
Yeah. Mary tells Jen... Oh, wait, no, sorry.
Lisa does a pretty good job of identifying how
Mary's feeling after Jen's apology to Meredith
because Mary also wanted an apology and she felt
invalidated and Lisa calls that out. And then
the girls are arguing and Mary goes, I don't
want this around Walter. Walter's very upset
right now. I think that was my favorite line
of that whole episode. Because like... Walter
is a grown man. He's going to be fine. There
was a verbal altercation at his restaurant. He
is going to be okay. But I think even better
was, that's happening, that's happening. Mary
says, oh, Walter's very upset right now. And
Lisa goes, sorry, Walter. They're treating him
like he's a... child or something that just had
to witness um mary calls jenna hudlum and that
turns into a conversation about i guess like
i this had to have been off camera because i
don't remember this but mary told jen that if
she pulls up to a 7 -eleven and sees black man
she goes to find another 7 -eleven yeah that
was like I think they say in the episode that
was, like, a private conversation. And so it
was impossible for us to know the context of
this. Not that I could ever see what a context
could be that's not incredibly racist. But Mary
is Black. I just can't. Well, that and, like,
Mary also just says, yeah, I absolutely said
that. I'm afraid of that. And I was like. your
husband granted this is filmed and i think in
2019 so like i don't think anyone realized the
implications of what saying that would ever become
but lord have 2019 that's not that long ago what
do you mean no but like it was before the whole
like the black lives matter like really i agree
She has a black son, and she's saying if she
saw the likes of him, she would... What? I just
can't... This comes up at the reunion, and this
is one of those things where Mary just really
never answers for it. Like, that was insane to
me. How can you? What is there to say about that,
you know? Ugh. I just remember this was, like,
the nail in the coffin for me not liking Mary.
Because I thought she was just, like, a vibe
mismatch for me for a while. And then that came
out, and I was like, oh, I have no problem hating
her. Fair. And, like, that is a valid reason,
honestly. Like, that was a wild thing. So Jen
ends up leaving, and then we go over to Heather's
house, where Heather explains that her ex -husband
has always provided for them financially, and
he wanted his daughters. to have a mom that was
always around to raise them. And, like, I actually
really appreciate this about Billy. Like, he's
awful and, like, was terrible to Heather. But,
like, I do think at the end of the day, like,
he was probably a really good dad, which. Least
he can do is give her a little check every month.
I mean, his family is billionaires. Like, it
doesn't matter. And by little, I mean, I hope
that thing is six figures every month. Christ,
I hope so. Oh, okay. So Heather says she was
not planning on going to church the next day
and asked the girls if they still want to go.
And then they all just decide that they're not
planning on going because Heather lets them make
their own decisions about this. And I feel like
this is how every parent should approach that
conversation because I remember seeing this and
I was like, God, I probably wouldn't feel so
weird about religion if like my family had just
been like this. A hundred percent. I think she
asked, this might be a later episode, but she
asked at some point, she's like, do you see yourself
being Mormon? Oh, yeah. It's later in the season,
yeah. Okay, yeah. And that's fair to ask. I've
talked about this before. Both of my parents
were raised Catholic, and both of them decided
that that was horrible to live in constant guilt,
nothing against Catholics. Right. With my brother
and me, they were like, if you ever want to try
a religion, we will support you in that and get
you where you need to go. But we don't. I think
that's how you have to be a little bit. I talked
to my sister -in -law about this before. Zachary
doesn't have any feelings about religion one
way or the other. He's a lot like me. And Alicia's
always said, like, she goes, I don't like going
to church. Like, it's just not my thing. But
if Alex and Amelia go or if they want to go,
I'll drop them off. I don't care. But I'm, like,
not really interested in going. And I like that.
Yeah. What I will say is, especially for kids,
I do think church can give you sort of, like,
a sense of community, a place to meet new friends
and stuff like that. And, like, all of that is
fine. All of that is fine. Unless you listen
too hard. And they really want you to listen
too hard. Yeah, I don't know. If Jack said he
wanted to go to church, I would probably find
one of his friends that already goes to church
and figure that out. He's like me. And when I
went to my cousin's church growing up, because...
My aunt and uncle were watching us. That didn't
go well. One day we'll talk about it. I can't
wait. Also, this is a complete side note. I want
to go back through all the episodes, like, realistically,
probably while you're on your maternity break.
And I'm going to, like, find everything that
we said. Oh, yeah, one day we'll get into that.
Have a list ready. Yeah. Because that list is
long. Yeah. Well, I just, like. It would take
an extra hour of our time for me to get into
the. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I like, that's what
I'm saying is like, I want to go back and do
all that because like, there's a lot there. Yeah.
But anyway, we, uh, we're in the car with Meredith
and she's going to pick Seth up from the airport.
And I love that. Like, she's not driving to pick
him up. She's driven to pick him up. Um, but.
As soon as the thought that counts. Oh, yeah.
But like also in when they go to Bermuda and
they're riding around on scooters, one of the
questions that Meredith has asked like in her
confessionals, when's the last time you drove?
And she goes, I don't know. I love her so much.
She's so silly. But Seth gets in the car and
then he floats the idea of moving to Ohio and
Meredith. rebukes that idea. She's not into that.
And I don't blame her. What is Ohio? Where is
Ohio? Hi, viewers from Ohio. Indiana or something.
I mean, Columbus is cool. I like Columbus. I
prefer Columbus, Indiana, truthfully. Really?
The only thing Ohio has that is good for me is
Kings Island. Fair. Okay. Maybe Cedar Point.
I could hear out Cedar Point. Yeah. But I feel
about Ohio the way Meredith feels about Ohio.
She's like, nothing against Ohio. I just don't
want to live there. Sorry, Ohio. Yeah. And I
think that that is fine. He wanted to move there
for work anyway. It's not like he's passionate
about Ohio. Yeah, but he also worked for Big
Lots. That's who he's working for? Yes. Seth,
you're going to let Big Lots move you to Ohio?
Oh, man. When I found that out, that was wild
to me. But Seth can't take a hint about where
the conversation is headed. And Meredith, she's
like, I don't want to do this anymore. I'm like,
I'm not talking about this. Let's talk about
something else. Like, it was bad. She's disengaged.
Yeah, she's disengaging. We go back and forth
between Mary's house and Jen's office. And Jen's
unpacking the luncheon on her FaceTime with Sharif.
And Mary's unpacking everything with Robert Sr.
at the same time. I get where Jen's coming from.
Like, there's not a lot I'll agree with Jen on
from the first season because she's so, like,
unhinged. But, like, I do 100 % agree with her.
Like, you can't say things like that, Marianne.
Like, she sees her sons and her nephews when
she hears that comment. And I think she takes
that, like, very seriously. Yeah. I mean, what
kind of mother and wife would you be if you didn't
stand up for her? your relatives exactly someone's
like i'm scared of them and like perpetuating
this idea that already exists in people's heads
and and not only just perpetuating that but like
knowing you're gonna be on a show and still talking
about it like whoa right whoa um And then...
Oh. And then at the same time... And Mary's also
unpacking, yeah. Yeah, Mary's, like, heard about
the grandfather... Yeah, the grandfather comment.
I'm like... Those two things aren't the same
thing, though. Apples and oranges, honey. Apples
and oranges. Like, you have a right to feel that
way about the grandfather thing, a thousand percent.
You... cannot say that like what you said is
justifiable i i don't know i don't know i don't
know i don't know what to do with that say i'm
literally racist against my own race but how
dare you call out something factual about me
exactly come on um when you guys do her brother's
jujitsu school and This place, I know for a fact,
smells like feet. They all have to, right? Like
everybody's sweaty and everyone's toes are out.
I also, I find it, I don't know if this is okay.
I find it strange when grown people do martial
arts. I feel like if you frame it as like a self
-defense thing. I understand it more. Okay. But
also I grew up around wrestling. Oh, yeah. That's
the other thing about the smell. I managed wrestling
since I've been in a wrestling room. I spent
probably 15 years in a wrestling room. And I'm
aware of the smells. Oh, it's like a discovery
zone. I know that's what it smells like. It's
bad. It's musty. But Whitney's kind of a badass
and, like, literally picks her brother up who's,
like, double her size and, like, flips him over
and, like, onto the ground. And I was like, ooh,
do that to me. Yeah. I'd let her do that to me.
100%. I thought she was incredibly strong. Just,
like, the build of her body. Like, she's tuned.
Oh, yeah. And she does, like, Pilates and stuff,
too. Like, you know, she's, like. And she's in
the gym. She's constantly working out. Yeah.
Well, that's, like, on her TikTok all the time.
It's like she is in the gym every day. Good for
her. And I love her. I love her for it. And then
we unpack a little bit about Whitney's dad and
his, like, journey to sobriety and how he didn't
go to sober living after rehab originally for
the first time. I hate to say it. Okay. Poor
guy. It's a bad decision. Let me just say that
for everyone listening. It's a poor decision
to not go to some sort of sober living facility
post -rehab. But I can see how you could come
out of rehab and be like, I don't need it anymore.
My cravings are gone. I'm done with work. I just
want to go back to my life now. I can totally
see that. Okay. Because I'm also like a girl
who would not want to have roommates and stuff
like that. Like I'm not a group living type of
girl. So I can totally see how it's like, I just
want to be normal now. I do. Okay. That's when
you put it that way, that is fair. Like it probably,
you just want to feel normal and like you haven't
felt normal for ever. That's fair. Right. Yeah.
Um, but I guess at this, so at this point he
had not talked to the kids since Thanksgiving.
So it's been a couple of months. at that point
um and that's rough i i don't like that yeah
i think i think that's going both ways though
right like he he wants a relationship there but
the kids are like you did a bunch of stuff to
us that we don't forgive you for yet type of
thing isn't that what's going on oh no i don't
We find out at the reunion that, like, Whitney's
dad stopped talking to Whitney. So, like, I have
a feeling it's a lot of, I think he might be
the problem, if I'm being honest. Yeah. It sucks.
We go over to Henry's birthday party, and I felt
comfortable at this bowling birthday party. Like,
something about this was like, I want to be here.
Yeah. I love a birthday party at a bowling alley.
Side note, I hate going bowling and then someone
tries to teach me how to bowl. No, thank you.
Let me be bad. Let me just throw the ball down
the lane or whatever. I'm literally not upset
about losing. Please just leave me alone. Anyway.
The balloons have Fresh Wolf branding on them,
which is the boys' hair care brand. Lisa 1000
% used this as a marketing thing and wrote this
party off on her taxes. And that's beautiful.
And I support it. I love it. So Whitney and her
dad head to sober living because like this is
like they make the decision that this is what's
best. And I wonder what the timeline was here
between like the conversation of the jujitsu
place and this because like there's no way it
happened as quickly as it's shown. no but yeah
i don't know um interested to see right and but
when he and her dad um like had that had to say
we're living it just seems like they're driving
for hours in his little truck but he is one of
these guys that drives with the back of his seat
like at like a 45 degree angle and that stresses
me out to no end yeah kenny drives laying down
too i hate why i it can't be comfortable No,
like, and he said, he's like, I need my arm to
be fully extended. And I'm like, why? Why? What?
I don't like it. But Winnie's kind of excited
because her dad chose to go to sober living and
feels really optimistic about that. And I feel
like, I don't know, like I have, I have experienced
like dropping people off at rehab and like. I
get where Whitney's coming from. I just feel
bad because I know the other side of, like, coming
out. Like, when someone comes out of it, like,
they just go back to it. But I've never dropped
anyone off at a rehab as nice as, like, this
Stoper Living place is. It's, like, a beautiful,
like, barn in the middle of the... Yeah, I thought
the same thing. I would live there. 100%. Because
I had a friend in Louisiana who was living in
Stoper Living. And this was just a house. It
was not nice. Like, it was just a big old house.
Yeah. So, I don't know. But, yeah, the one he
wants, he looks really nice. And that's probably
really good if you're going to be living somewhere
like that. Make it less miserable. Like, do everything
you can to make it as nice as possible. Make
it as enticing as possible. And you'll probably
find a lot more success. 100%. um we go over
to mary i'm sorry meredith's house and seth's
leaving for her work and it like it just feels
heavy and then meredith walks in and interconfessional
she talks about how there's been a lot of arguing
and there's um there's a need for them to spend
like some intentional time apart and this did
feel a little put on like but i do feel like
everything behind it was very real but i feel
like they were like we need to like show i couldn't
tell if it was that or they were just like so
uncomfortable and like a hyper aware of the cameras
okay because i got that vibe too but then i was
like they just in general do not seem comfortable
so i don't know i i would believe either one
honestly but um But I feel bad because it's a
scary place to be in a marriage. And whether
or not it was put on, we do know that their marriage
did hit a rocky patch. And I'm very impressed
that they were able to put this on camera and
navigate it as well as they did. Even if some
of it was put on for the show, I'm okay with
that. I feel like they're both incredibly cool
-headed in general. I mean, not that they don't
get emotional. Both of them can. We've seen it
from both of them. I just feel like, in general,
they're very aware of their emotions and in control
of themselves. I agree. It's sort of like a healthy,
they're dealing with it in a healthy way, but
it is scary, especially since they were about
to be empty nesters and all of that. We also,
as viewers, didn't know what was going on at
this point, and so it was like, how deep does
this go? All right. I love them together also.
What'd you say? I love them together also. I
do too. I really love Seth and Meredith. Like,
I wish they were my parents. Yeah, me too. Honestly.
I would end up like Brooks though. So entitled
and crazy. Perfect. I mean, I already am. We'll
get to this later on, but can you literally imagine
entering your clothing line in a fashion show
and it being one sweatsuit? Like, I want to have
that type of entitlement in my brain. Yes. Yes,
I can. I feel like Emma, I submitted us for a
podcast award before we published our first episode.
actually that's fair yeah yeah it's because i
believe in us i just i was it was like the new
like the emerging podcast or whatever i was like
we're probably those i don't know we are emerging
um and then we go into the end of the episode
um heather wants mary to know that she or sorry
we go to dinner with heather and mary and then
Heather wants Mary to know that she can be friends
with her and still be friends with Jen. And,
like, I think that's a wild thing to have to
say out loud, but whatever. Mary educates us
about how carbonated water hurts your ovaries.
What? What? That can't be a real thing, right?
It can't be true. You know what? If it is, I
will continue to drink my Dr. Pepper. It is what
it is. Heather and Mary get into how Jen attacked
Mary's marriage, and Mary tells Heather in no
uncertain terms, it was written in her grandmother's
will for her to get married to Robert Sr. I want
you to remember this moment right here. Yeah,
it was in her will. In her will. And then Heather
understands on some level that Mary chose faith
over love in this situation. And she empathizes
with her over that. And I get that. Well, they
are kind of birds of a feather in that way. She
says she was never like in love with her husband,
but she felt like it was the right thing to do
in the church. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. And I think
Mary. in some way wanted to honor her grandmother
and also wanted to be first lady of the church
because her grandmother told her that's what
she wanted so it's like okay i think the more
and more i think about it i'm like it's weird
i i'm uncomfortable with it but like that's that's
not my problem so yeah and also i've never been
in that situation so like i don't know right
but yeah If we have the power to summon someone
from the dead, I want to talk to Mary's grandmother.
I have so many questions for her. You know her
story is like, actually, she walked from Indianapolis
to Salt Lake City with her kids, and that's how
they got to Salt Lake City. What? Yes. They hated
our city that much? I don't remember why she,
like, I feel, I don't know if it was, like, I
feel called to this place. I don't know, but
she lived in Indy, yeah. That's why Mary has
a house in Carmel. What? We've talked about this.
Mary has a house in Carmel. I have pregnancy,
Brandon. I can't remember my own birthday. Yeah,
it's in, um, it's not that far from where I lived
at the rail yard. How often is she in Carmel?
I mean, it cannot be that often. I mean, the
house is... One of her neighbors was asked about
it in some article, because, like, when... I
think that she's been here once since the show
started filming, but she has, like, seven or
eight houses. Oh, yeah, that's true. She might
be at Airbnb or whatever. oh no they don't rent
no like the houses are empty when they're not
there but that's what the neighbor said is like
we've never met her we don't know who this woman
is you don't know what you're in for but if mary
ever comes to andy i'll take her to like mary
cosby i will take you to dinner i love you i'm
obsessed with you emma will have to be fine with
it i have lots of questions for you but yes i
agree i would love to like hear mary or mama
cosby's story because i think that I mean, you
walked with your kids from Indianapolis in the
Midwest to Salt Lake City, Utah. Like, I mean,
yeah, they, like, hitchhiked or whatever. But,
like, I'm just like, what? Why did you do that?
And also, what is the deal with your husband?
And also, what's the deal with Mary? And what's
the deal with your daughter? I have so many questions
for you. I agree. But yeah. Oh, and we have some
reviews from Apple Podcasts and Spotify. This
is actually really cool. So we got two five -star
reviews on Apple Podcasts. Do you want to read
the first one or the second one? I don't care.
I'll do the second one. I love you all equally.
Perfect. So Chipper072198 gives a review titled,
Travis and Emma, your new escape. This person
said, I absolutely adored the conversations between
Travis and Emma. Their chemistry is undeniable
and the way they explore multifaceted topics
makes it easy to get lost and escape reality
for a while. It's the perfect podcast to dive
into if you want to step away from your own thoughts
and enjoy a pure, honest conversation between
two deeply engaging hosts. I want this person
to write my memoir. I want to give that person
a kiss on the mouth. I love you. I love you so
much. Thank you. That was so great. You're so
nice. And then we had AKA Space. who said the
world the world needs more of this all the way
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i love that on your love you and then um Our
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David when I hear that because I'm just like,
I love that so much. this golden retriever my
mom my mom has been like periodically calling
me like every once in a while and she'll just
like not even mention that she's been listening
to the podcast and just start responding to something
i said in a podcast like months ago and i have
to be like And then it finally clicks for me.
The most recent one, I don't even remember what
we were talking about. Oh, it must have been
Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And I was saying,
but she didn't apologize, though. Where did she
say she's sorry? My mom called me. She was like,
you think that way because of me. I'll tell you
one better. Josh, my husband Taylor, who we're
going to have on the podcast soon, was over at
my house the other day. And she goes, hey, Travis,
can I ask you a question? And I was like, yeah.
She goes, you're 27? And I was like, what? What
do you mean? And she goes, it's what you tell
people on the podcast. And I was like, and you
better shut your whore mouth and go along with
it. Mentally, I'm 16 years old. And she goes,
well, I'm also 27. So what do I tell them when
I come on the podcast? I said, you can tell them
whatever the fuck you want. And dear listener,
just know if Taylor says that she's 27 and I
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