I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is Bestie
Approved. Yay. What was the last song you listened
to? Oh. Time to Dance. Hang on. Yeah, Time to
Dance by Panic at the Disco. I don't know if
I remember that one. I only know like one of
their songs, to be fair. It's the Close the Goddamn
Door song. Yeah. I mean, that's the one everyone
would know, right? It had an amazing music video.
Did you ever watch the music video for that song?
I feel like if I ever did, it was in the morning
getting ready for school. Like when MTV still
played music videos for like two hours in the
morning. I was in a dual credit English class.
I think it was the, I was in a literature one
and a writing one. And I think it was the writing
one. And the professor literally showed that
in class. And I was like, wow. Did you ever have
to do the project where like you took a music
video and had to explain like what it meant or
like the meaning in the music video? No. Oh,
I had one of those when I was a freshman at IU
and I did the single again video by Trina. I
had to explain that. It was like taking storytelling
elements or whatever. And I was like, if you
like it, I love it. That's why we did it. Well,
my dual credit English class, it was my senior
year of high school. It was through IU. So I'm
sure that's why we did the music video thing.
Oh, I love that. OK. Yeah. My last song was Not
My Fault by Rene Rapp and Megan Thee Stallion.
Love. It's actually one of my favorite songs.
We have a lot this week. I haven't seen you in,
it's been like two weeks. Yeah. Travis was in
Dallas. We'll get into that. Yeah. Do you have
any pregnancy updates? Um, just that I feel him
wriggling and wiggling a lot and I am suffering.
Is it like, have we gotten to the point where
he's like, no, like he's, it's like every time
I lay down, He's like testing the boundaries
of my uterus. OK, I was like wondering, I guess
he like just constantly kicking and stuff, but
like. Yes and no. It's like I'll get like an
hour break and then I'll be in the car or something
and be like, oh, hello. Do you think he's like
trying to get out? Like, do you think he's like
conscious of like I'm trapped in a waterbed and
like I just want to move and be free? I don't
I don't know. I don't know that they get the
impulse to like come out. That is another thing,
though. I have gotten to the point where it's
like I'm unfortunately aware of the fact that
I'm going to have to push this thing out. And
I really don't want to do that. A serious question,
because, you know, I know nothing of the nature
of pregnancy or being a woman. When the baby
like when you go into labor, is that your body
saying, OK, it's time to push this thing out?
Or is that the baby saying I'm ready to come
out? It's a little bit of both. The baby releases
a protein that triggers labor in your body. Is
that the thing when they have to induce labor,
that's what they give you, right? Yeah. Okay.
They give you Pitocin. Yes. I was induced with
Jack, so I've never felt going into labor naturally.
They say it's less painful than being induced,
though, at least on the ticky -tocky. I have
to imagine being induced is like, it's not the
same thing at all, but like, do you know when...
They have to give you like a shot of adrenaline
or whatever when you're like having a like when
you get stung by a bee. Yeah. I have to imagine
it's like that where it's like. Yeah. Like it
makes you have contractions and like it was brutal.
And they say the contractions aren't as bad if
you're not induced on Pitocin. Interesting. Yeah.
So we'll see how this one goes. It's all fine.
He's so big, though, that I officially have ultrasounds
in September, October, and November. What, to,
like, see if he's getting too big? Yeah, because
if he gets too big, they start talking about
a C -section. Because if babies are too big,
they can dislocate their shoulders trying to
come out of you. He'll figure it out. He'll be
okay. Yeah, so that's what we're doing. I mean,
I'm never going to say no to an extra ultrasound.
They're like fun and cool to see, you know. I
guess, yeah. Yeah, you see your little baby.
So whatever. Okay. Yeah. I love that. How's school
going for Jack? Much better than last year, I'll
say. But... Like, he still doesn't want to go
to school. He's just, it's not his favorite thing
to go to school. And he misses his friends from
last year. He keeps saying he wants to switch
teachers so he can be in the same class as his
friends and whatever. And he made me cry yesterday
because it was raining, so they had indoor recess.
And he was like... I asked two people to play
with me and no one would play with me. I had
to play all by myself. Aww. And I cried and cried
and cried. I'm hormonal, obviously. No, but,
like, I... Like, that sucks. Like, does he...
Yeah, and he cried telling me it shouldn't help.
Aww, little Jack. I know. I mean, it's all fine.
Because, like, he could have joined someone else
or whatever, but he wanted to do what he wanted
to do. And I admire that. It just makes me sad.
I get that. I mean, like... I don't know. It's
hard. Like making friends is hard in general.
And like, I feel like, I don't know. Yeah. He
does have friends in his class too. Like his
birthday parties were full, both of them. And
there were tons of kids at his birthday party.
And at least one girl is in his class and sits
right next to him. Right. But like. And they're
friendly. Yeah. Okay. They were playing at the
party. Oh. Yeah. So I don't know. It's hard.
No, it is hard. And I feel like that has to be
the hardest thing to navigate because you can't
you can't go into the school. I have an aunt
that did this who went into the school and was
like, you like you need to do something. Yeah.
And I'm like, well, you can't do that because
like then you're that parent. But like at the
same time, it's like you don't ever want your
kid to be lonely or like navigate the world by
himself. That fucking sucks, man. Yeah. And I
mean, it's fine. He said he played Legos and.
He has friends. We're going to the park after
school today with one of his friends. Like I'm
not worried about him not getting social skills.
It's just like every once in a while. He can
be awkward. Like he can be a little socially
awkward just because he's shy. And I was the
same way growing up. So was I. Like he's seven.
Of course he's shy. I don't know. It's fine.
Yeah. I love him. He's going to be okay. My school
started this week too. Yeah. How is it going?
It's a lot. Um, I have a professor who's from
Brazil. I love him. He, I love the way he says
fantastic. And I think it is the greatest thing
ever. Um, And I think the really cool thing about
Kelly at IU, they do a really good job of like
bringing in professors from like from industries
and like that really knew what they were doing,
like and then they just decided to move into
academia. And I think that's really, really cool.
But yeah, I like it. I like learning and like
I'm getting to the point where like next semester's
it and then it's time for law school. And I'm
like, oh, I really, really love what I'm learning
now. And like. And I have a couple of professors
that are like that have a Ph .D. in business.
And I'm like, do I get a Ph .D.? And I'm like,
probably not. I don't know. I don't know what
I would do with a Ph .D. because I'm not going
to be a professor. Are you abandoning law school?
No, no, no, no, no. I like. But it's like I it's
you know, I am a change where it's like, yeah,
I. It's like I'm I'm ready for the next thing.
But at the same time, I'm like, oh, I'm really
comfortable right now. And I love what I'm learning.
But like, I know I'm not going to feel this way
at the end of the semester. Isn't there a test
you have to take before you go to law school?
The LSAT, yeah. Yeah. Do you feel ready for that?
Yeah, I feel fine. Well, the LSAT's hard. That's
what I've heard. That's why I was asking. It's
like the NCLEX or whatever you have to take before
you can become a nurse. People say that one's
hard, too. Right. We'll see. I don't know. I'm
excited, though. That's good. What's next? And
just like that is not next. It is over. I never
watched it. Can I be honest? Please. I knew it
was going to be bad. Did you? Oh, yeah. OK, so
what was your signal that it was going to be
bad? Because I'm going to tell you my perspective
on this. Sex in the City was magic in a bottle,
lightning in a bottle. Yes. And I don't think
you can recreate it just by getting the actors
and actresses. or even the writers together again.
It was perfect for the time in which it aired,
and it was perfect, like, literally just in that
time. It didn't need to be woke -ified and rebooted.
I knew they couldn't do that again. So, I think
this is what frustrates me about it, is like,
I didn't think they were trying to recreate it.
And that's what I struggled with so much watching
this. Cause I like in growing up, say what you
will about this. My dad let me watch sex in the
city. Like, and it was just, wasn't a big deal.
I'm like, whatever. And I just turned it on.
I don't know. Oh yeah. No, like, like he had
to like, like he had to like override the parental
controls on HBO. And he was just like, just cause
don't tell your grandparents. So I got to watch
Sex and the City growing up. Such a fun show.
And it was fun. And it was like, was it appropriate
for a 13 -year -old to be watching? No. Absolutely
not. But like, this is what like, I mean, you
had Sex and the City, you had Will and Grace,
and that was it for like a little gay kid growing
up in like rural Indiana. Right. Yeah. So like,
okay, so. You have sex in the city and then it
ends. And like the whole thing when they ended
that show is they said, we did not want. what
you have with so many shows like what you had
with charmed what you had with like buffy the
vampire slayer like all these shows that were
like we are so tired of watching this like take
it take it out back and shoot it like that's
100 and they said we wanted people to miss these
people in their living rooms like they said that
very publicly there are still shows in my opinion
that have gone seasons too long that have come
out recently like there there are so many shows
where like it's It's clear where it should have
ended. And the network said, I need this cash
cow to keep going. Right. And so with Sex and
the City, like, so they did the two movies, which
the first movie, fine. The second movie was problematic.
Yeah. Looking back on it. I liked the first movie
when I was like 14. Was I 14? I might have been
older than that when I watched it. I don't know.
I liked it though. It was a good movie. The first
movie was great. Um, second movie. We'll just
pretend it didn't happen. We don't acknowledge
her. Right. And then the cool thing about, and
just like that, what, or what was supposed to
be the cool thing where they were like, it's
not, it's not a reboot. It's not, it's just the
next chapter. That is still a reboot in my opinion.
Okay. Right. You're, it's the same formula. It's
the same characters. That's a reboot. And I understand.
And even if it's picking up where you left off,
you're still rebooting the show. OK, yes, that
is fair. But I was fine with that. I was like,
oh, we're like, we're going to see where they're
at in their lives now. And I was so excited about
that. The problem that I had was, OK, so you
had like apparently and I don't I guess Sarah
Jessica Parker wasn't great behind the scenes
to work with. And that's why Kim Cattrall didn't
come back. And Kim Cattrall was the best part
of that show. I don't care what anyone says.
I will. That is the hill I'm willing to die on.
Samantha. Everyone wanted to be a Samantha. And
I think you needed her in the show. Like it's
not. She was not an extraneous character. Like
you needed her to balance everything in the show.
Yes. Like, yes. And the thing that I. have such
a hard time with is like okay we're gonna keep
talking about her and like what it's very very
clear like if you actually like take a step back
and think about it they were trying to leave
the door open for her to say yeah I'm gonna come
back and Kim Cattrall was like no fuck you no
seriously I'm not doing it yeah and like I think
the art like the title of the article was I won't
do something that brings me Not even for one
hour will I be unhappy at this point in my life.
Oh, I think about that quote all the time because
I kind of live by that. Yeah. I don't want to
be uncomfortable or unhappy for even an hour
of my day. I agree with that. And I'm just like,
well, I think we have to accept that. And then,
OK, so you have you have Kim Cattrall. I didn't
come back. And then you have. The the only person
that like I will buy that this is where this
person is at in her life is Kristen Davis's character,
Charlotte, where. I was like, OK, she's she stayed
pretty true to who she was, and now like this
is who she is as a mom. I'll buy all that. And
then you have Miranda fucking Hobbs, who I saw
this on Twitter. Oh, the wheels fell. And like
Miranda is OK, if you didn't want to be a Samantha,
I'll buy that people wanted to be a Miranda because
Miranda was like, I'm a lawyer. I am a badass.
I am figuring out how to raise a kid and very
girl boss. Yes. Very early 2000s. Mom's making
it. Yes. Yeah. And then you take her, you turn
her into a raving alcoholic who is trying so
hard to be woke, but it's like, oh, I don't know
what I can say anymore. Like shut. up the opposite
of woke it was the most horrific thing and then
she's a lesbian maybe and like cool whatever
like she's exploring her sexuality late in life
but like you they went out of their way to make
it as messy as anything has ever been great okay
whatever and then you have carrie who i'm gonna
this is this might be a hot take and i'm gonna
say this right now I accepted Carrie for who
she was on the show growing up as the worst friend
on God's green earth. I accepted her being a
mess. I accepted her because she was Carrie and
like that was her thing. She spent six years
chasing a man. The man dies in the second episode
of the show. And she. Like she's she's I don't
like her now. I don't like Carrie anymore. I.
I will say I didn't like Carrie in the original,
but what I will say is she was always the most
irritating one, the most annoying one, and the
least aspirational. I never really wanted to
be like Carrie. I had a phase where I was like,
I could be a Charlotte or a Samantha was really
where we all landed, right? But it's like, she
was always bad to her friends. She was always
me, me, me, me, me. And she like she just give
us nothing, Queen, period. Yeah. And and the
thing with the way the show ended is like they
say that this is where they were going to end
the show. The show got fucking canceled by HBO.
I will die on this hill, too. And like they were
trying everything in their power at the very,
very end of this show to make her more likable.
Like, oh, she's like she's. she's the girl that
brings pies to everyone on thanksgiving and like
they pretended like give me a break i was like
what i remember carrie she's not baking a single
pie no the whole the whole kitsch of the last
episode so it was thanksgiving they um and also
spoiler alert i'm sorry if no one's seen this
yet um There's this pie shop in New York that
like they create a whole backstory about how
like this person weathered COVID to come bake
pies for Carrie because Carrie was going to come
pick them up during COVID. Like the whole thing
is a crock of bullshit. And like, I'm just I'm
so glad it's over. I am so glad that it's over
because if you couldn't have gotten the original
four girls back, you should have never done it.
I agree 100%. You don't have the comedic relief
or the realness of Samantha. I feel like it's
not a show. And can I just side note? COVID being
canon for a fictional show to me, and this is
a hot take and I know it is because it's canon
for like every show. that covid happened to me
it's like 9 -11 being canon like why is that
part of your show don't we watch these shows
to like escape like why do we i don't know you
could just skip covid i don't disagree but like
that this is the thing was they painted themselves
into a corner with this where it's like we want
to live in the real world and like whatever and
i'm like i don't I'm not interested in Sex and
the City being part of the real world. Like I
want glamorous New York. I want you going to
this club that was all beds. I want, I want a
woman that lives, that is ostensibly a columnist
for, I think it was New York Post is who Carrie
was writing for, who somehow affords this massive
apartment in midtown Manhattan. I don't want
it to be real. I don't want realness in Sex and
the City. It's supposed to be an escape. It's
supposed to be fiction. I just don't understand.
Yes. Like, COVID does not need to be canon in
every single show or book or whatever. Skip it.
Skip it. I don't understand. And so I don't know
what the answer is, but I do know I'm really
happy that Sex and the City is being put to bed.
Yeah. A hundred percent. Me too. It needed to
be there forever. And I know people love it.
And like, there's a new generation of people
who are now watching it. People who are teenagers
now. And so I understand the allure because the
show is like probably streaming. Well, right
now. Oh yeah. It has to be. You gotta just let
it go. I don't know. And I know that like you
have to keep creating content like that's the
nature of the beast right now. You're seeing
the same thing with the Real Housewives where
it's like you don't get a break from that anymore
because like they want to keep your eyes on Bravo
all the time. And so I guess I don't know what
the answer is, but like it just sucks that like
you've taken something that like I mean. Sex
in the City, like, was a big deal on Sunday nights
when it came on at, like, 9 or 10 p .m. Like,
people stopped their lives to watch it. Like,
it was a big deal. Like, I look back on it. Like,
Lindsay and I went to see the first movie when
it came out. And, like, we were at the midnight
screening of it. Like, the whole song and dance
of it. And it's like, those people don't have
that anymore. Like, what are you? I don't know.
I don't know. Yeah. I just feel like. All the
new stuff is, like, very Netflix -ified, very,
like, brain -roddy. And so no one's that, like,
excited for it anymore. I feel like maybe we're
on the brink of, like, the next big show like
that. Like the Renaissance. Yeah. Maybe. We need
another early 2000s type of TV again. I loved
the new season of Wednesday. I was good. Yeah,
that was really good. But that's rare. It's like
not every Netflix show deserves a watch, you
know? No. And it took them what? Like five years
to make. Well, it's the same thing. Like, have
you watched Severance yet? No, I want to. But
anyway, it's so good. Severance is incredible.
And like, oh, it's and like the first season.
they did not know that it was going to be as
much of like a smash hit as it was and then they
dropped the second season and like what what
i do appreciate about apple tv that not a lot
of these streaming services do anymore is they're
dropping it like episode by episode you're not
getting the whole thing at once so you you do
have something to keep coming back to but the
like it took them like three or four years to
create the second season and now people are like
We need to know what happens next. I don't know
what's going on with that, where it used to be
you get a year to make the new season of a show
and then you drop it. Or they're like filming
the later episodes as the beginning of the season
is dropping. Right. Why aren't we doing that
anymore? I don't know. Like, that's the way that
I have. I don't know. It's so strange. But I
did appreciate that. I liked the first couple
of seasons of Ted Lasso. And they did the same
thing where it was like once a week they would
drop an episode. HBO did that with the first
season of Euphoria, too. I never watched Euphoria,
but... Meh. I don't know that it's up your alley.
Anyways. Oh, I would hate it. Did you see...
High schoolers on drugs. I would hate that. She's
a pilot who just wasn't feeling it. Yeah. In
mad respect for him. OK, so you would be OK with
like the pilot saying I'm not going to take off.
One hundred percent. OK, good. For whatever reason.
I don't even care what it is. I agree. So, OK,
so the the whole story is the there was a flight
from Los Angeles to Honolulu. Yeah. And. The
plane like so there was maintenance going on
in the plane, and I think it was the the first
one was like they couldn't get the faucet to
like turn off or something. And I know they had
to deplane once and get on a new plane. Yes.
And then the new plane also had an issue. So
the new the second plane was they. like an oil
leak or something and like yeah they so they
got the second plane and then they were like
okay the second plane's fine after like they
did like they had like aircraft maintenance come
out whatever and the pilot was just like you
know what no not today like we're not gonna do
it and the way that i would have been like you
know what you're right and i'm gonna stay my
ass in la i'm going to sit here at los angeles
international airport And everything is going
to be okay. Right. A hundred percent. I feel
like even if there weren't any issues with the
plane, we boarded on time and everything was
good. It was sunny and clear outside. If the
pilot just said, Hey, I don't know. I just have
a pit in my stomach. I have a bad feeling about
this flight. I will be the first in line to get
off. Million percent. Like million percent. I
do not play around. I do not want to be in a
plane crash. Okay. I do not, but no, especially
that whole flight is over the ocean. Like, no,
no, I'm not doing that. And what people don't
realize is. Hawaii is closer to Japan than it
is the United States. That is a far flight. Yes.
And it's not like you can emergency land anywhere.
It's the middle of the ocean. Yes. And I mean,
you could do a water landing. It's fine. But
like, no, I'm not doing that. I would have to
assume that water landings are like there's more
success with those than like a crash landing.
Because like you can. You can emergency. I've
seen. But if an emergency landing, you can just
like land early somewhere. Like if you were flying
from L .A. to Orlando and there was an issue
with the plane, you can land pretty much anywhere
in the U .S. Right. And be fine. Right. But if
you're over the ocean, I don't know. I mean,
all things being equal, I want to land at H &L.
Or LAX or wherever. I don't want to land in the
ocean, ideally, in a perfect scenario. I mean,
I'm sure you can land in the ocean, but then...
That's what the rafts are for. What are the logistics
of people, like the rescue? And I burn really
bad. I can't be out in the sun like that. I can't.
No. No, but... And your bags are fucked. I'm
sure. No, I'm not. I'm not even going to play
around with that. I'm OK. So, no, I the the pilot
was like, hey, I'm not feeling it. And and I
I have to assume there were some people that
were angry. And to them, I say you're stupid.
Yeah, I didn't personally see anyone who said
that they were like angry passengers. But there's
a Karen on every flight. So I'm sure there was.
Speaking of travel, I just got back from Dallas.
Yeah. He was at the podcast movement. I was.
It was really, really cool. I want you to come
back with me next year because. I made a lot
of podcast friends and like, it was super fun.
And I like never, I did not shut up about you.
And I was like, everyone's like, where's your
co -host? Where's, where's, where's your best
friend? And I was like, she's pregnant. Stressed
about her son's birthday parties. That's what
I was doing that whole week and weekend. Getting
that all together. But I'm glad it was good.
I didn't know like what to expect really, obviously,
since we just started this a few months ago.
I didn't either. Um. but yeah i would love to
go next year it was really cool um and like i
feel like i learned a lot and emma and i still
have to sit down and talk about this but like
out of everything i learned there will be some
like content changes coming which does mean like
more content for everyone um yeah and then i
just have to figure out what that looks like
and like when the timeline for that's gonna be
but more to come on that and I also made a list
of just like random thoughts I had walking around
the airport and like when I was on the on the
plane. And I'm just going to rapid fire through
some of these. And 100 percent. And you can stop
me wherever you want. And yeah, I have opinions.
OK, perfect. Were you a three hour early to the
airport family? 100 percent. And I still am.
I am, too, to the point where I called my papa
a couple of days before. i left for dallas and
i was like hey you're taking me to the airport
um what like my flight's at 915. When do you
want to, like, when do you think we should get
up and get going? And he's like, well, you need
to be there by at least at the latest 545. So
let's plan on leaving at 445. And I was like,
we live 30 minutes from the airport. And he was
like, I don't care. No, yeah. I would so much
rather have an extra hour to sip a coffee and
doom scroll on my phone or I've gotten a full
on meal at the airport just because I had extra
time that I had given myself. Absolutely. I am
happy, thrilled even to be there. I mean, I usually
aim for two hours before boarding starts. OK,
I'm I'm pretty I'm I'm a little bit earlier than
that. I like I like being early. I like having
a ton of time. Do you go and like check to see
that your gate is where you think it's going
to be before? Like you need to like sit down
or anything? Love that. Because you know what's
never going to happen is a flight leaves early.
That's never going to happen ever. But I will
know that my gate is there. Thousand percent.
Window or aisle seat? Window for sure. Same.
I'm not one of those people who's hopping right
up when the plane lands and immediately getting
off. I believe in rules and order. And I'm happy
to wait to get off the plane. Speaking of. waiting
to get off the plane. One of the one of the observations
I made was so. The plane touches down and the
captain is like, OK, please keep your seatbelts
fastened until we're at the gate and the seatbelt
sign is off. And the way people act like it's
Pamplona running the fucking bulls. And they're
the bulls. Yes. And like so. I feel like I called
you or I left you a FaceTime voicemail or something,
but like there was a woman on my flight from
Indy to Atlanta. And as as dear listener, you
probably know because I don't shut up about it.
I love the city of Atlanta. However, when anyone
is flying there, it's I would venture to say
probably 95 percent of the time it's for a layover.
Yeah. Like everyone has a connecting flight.
Everyone. Everyone. It's the Delta and I only
fly Delta. It's the Delta hub. Like it is what
it is. But there was a woman and I typically
sit towards the back of the plane, usually behind
the wing. And there was a woman who was flying
standby. I know she was flying standby because
she was one of the last people to get on. And
like she was with a family and they were all
like scattered across the plane. So they didn't
have assigned seats coming on. It's giving home
alone. OK, I never saw him alone. What? I've
never seen that movie. On the Christmas episode
of the podcast, you will be watching Home Alone.
Okay. And sharing your thoughts. That's fine.
I'm happy to do that. there was a woman who gets
up and she's like tapping this guy on the shoulder
the guy that was sitting next to me and she was
like i i have i have a connecting flight i have
a connecting flight and the guy was like yeah
me too and i fully would like it took everything
in me not to say it we're in atlanta we all have
a connecting flight so does everyone like what
the fuck what the fuck yeah i don't get that
i have another question for you before we move
on because it's not in your questions so When
you are the last group to board, which for me
is pretty much all the time, right? You're like
five or whatever. You board with like the bulk
of people. OK, OK. Yeah. If you're. Yes. OK.
Do you immediately when they call your group,
get in line to board when they give my group
number? Yes. I will not wait. That is insane
to me. Really? The line is so incredibly long.
Oh, I sit there at the gate and I watch them
trickle in. And then when the line is much shorter,
I go stand in it. No, like when they say my number.
Yes. Before my number, I have a good sit. No,
like when they call my number. Right. Because
I'm always flying coach. I'm not a fancy flyer.
That's fair. When they call my group number,
I am not getting up. I am not getting up until
that super long extended line goes down. Because
I don't understand why, if we've all just been
sitting in this crowd, basically, together around
the gate, why we feel like we all need to stand
in line at the same time. I don't get it. I don't
want to stand for 30 minutes. That is fair. I'm
already here. That is fair. No, that's yeah,
that's fair. Kenny's like you, though. That's
why I wanted to ask. Like, as soon as they call
our group number, he's getting up and getting
in line. And I'm like, Kenny, I like to. There
are 45 people already in line. I enjoy making
sure that the gate agent's job is very easy.
And like, I don't. Yeah, like. 100 percent. I'm
not saying I wait until there's no one in line.
I'm saying, you know how like at the Indianapolis
airport, there's like a line to the gate and
then it curves one way or another because there
are 45 people standing in line. Yes. I'm waiting
until the line reaches the carpet and then I'm
getting in line. OK, that's fair. That's fair.
Because I just don't understand why we're all
standing there. We're already at the gate. I
don't know. You don't get it. That's fair. You
don't get it. The other. So on the note of like
people being Pamplona running the fucking bulls,
I noticed a lot of people. It had to have been
their first time in an airport or on an airplane.
Like the way that like it was, I'm going to stand
right here. I'm going to crowd around people.
I'm going to like run in front of like. I'm in
the back of the plane, but I'm going to try and
be the first to get off the plane. I was just
like, why? Why are you doing that? There's an
epidemic ever since COVID, I fear, of people
not believing in personal space. It's everywhere.
It's at the store. It's in any public space,
really. People have just forgotten to get the
fuck up off of you. I don't understand what happened,
but I'm against it. Give me six feet of space
minimum. When I'm on a plane like. I'm like I
get like you are crammed in like sardines, like
the amount of space that you have, like if you
look between like the 90s and now, like there
is a significant change in like the amount of
space people have on a plane. I'm comfortable
with that. I'm not comfortable with like someone
literally like getting up next to and behind
you. While you're getting off a plane. I'm like,
we're all getting off at the same time. Like
this will not go any faster. And I would argue
that what you're doing is going to make it take
longer. That's where we're at. Everyone needs
to sit down for much longer when a plane lands.
That's the. I agree. I'll sit until the row in
front of me is empty. Like I will sit. Yeah.
And like, I don't know. I hate it. I'd rather
miss a connecting flight than be that bitch.
Well. That's foreshadowing if I've ever heard
it. For sure. I also noticed a ton of people
that could not figure out the moving walkways
or like when to step on an escalator in the airport.
What? People know how to use escalators? Not
at the Indianapolis International Airport. I
will say I'm scared of escalators. I used to
be really terrified of them as a kid. Did you
think they were going to eat you? No, I just
thought I was going to fall and it would hurt
really bad. I do imagine if you fall on an escalator,
just the way the stairs are shaved, it probably
is incredibly painful. Yeah, or I thought I would
fall off the side and they're always really steep.
Anyways, I have a fear of escalators. In my adulthood,
I've gotten a lot better about it. However, with
a suitcase in hand, it does make my palms very
sweaty. It makes me very nervous. So when you're
on. We'll take the escalators out of it for a
minute, because I think those aren't normal escalators.
I think when you're on an escalator with a suitcase,
you can't you can't walk up an escalator like
a normal person. When you're on the moving walkway
in an airport, though. Do you like do you do
the thing where it's like, OK, if you're on the
left, you're walking. If you're on the right,
like you're standing. No, they're going opposite
directions. No, no, no, no. Like when like, OK,
so like when you're like you make two lanes.
Yeah. Yeah. Imaginary. No, I walk. But I know
that it's not a natural instinct to walk because
I have to tell Jack every time to keep walking.
Oh, for me, it's a natural instinct. For me,
it's almost I'm running. Well, isn't that kind
of the point? It just makes your walk a lot faster.
Yes, I think that is the entire point. But like
the way that like people, it's like whole families
were spread out across the entire width. And
they're just standing there. And they're just
talking. They're just having a time. And I'm
like, people, I have to go make sure my gate's
there. Please move. It doesn't really bother
me. I will say, you get very emotional about
everything that happens at the airport. I do.
You're right, I do. 100%. I don't really care.
Like, I don't like the people who are, like,
standing up and breathing on my neck. That one
really bugs me. But, like, I don't care about
people rushing off the plane. I just watch them.
Or, like, standing on the moving thing. I'm like,
okay. I like to watch people in airports that
have the trains that get you to where you need
to go. I like to watch people not hang on and
fall on their ass. That's so fun for me. Do you
want to know something so sick and twisted about
me? What? Even if I don't have to go to another
terminal, I will ride those trains around the
entire airport. They're so fun. I love public
transit. I think it is so fun and exciting. I
specifically love the ones in Tampa. um tampa
does have a good one yes orlando has an incredible
one dallas fort worth has a great one um atlanta
has an amazing one it's all underground oh that's
cool it's like a subway yeah it's it looks like
a subway when you're like instead of just like
a tram yeah it's really cool yeah i yeah i I
enjoy a good people watching session at the airport.
I'm very quiet at the airport because what I'm
doing is observing. People are so silly at the
airport. We've never flown anywhere together.
I can't wait when we have like a live episode
that we have to fly to because I think it will
create a ton of content for us. It's going to
be very weird for me because usually I have my
AirPods in the whole time and I would have them
on noise cancellation if I didn't have Jack with
me every time I traveled. That's the only reason
I don't have noise cancellation on. Yeah. Is
to hear if Jack is being kidnapped because he
would scream. Oh, he would let you know he was
being taken. And I think. Yeah. OK, so that's
the end of like from Indy to Indy to Atlanta
to Dallas. Right. So. I can tell you the trip
back from Dallas was much more tumultuous. Like,
and you can, like, you see there's like a significant
change in my notes after this point. Yeah, we've
moved on from questions to statements. How do
you feel about the assholes with clear getting
me? Have you ever been to one of these airports
that actually has clear? Cause Andy doesn't know.
I don't know what that is. Clear is like pre
-check, but you get like an escort who takes
you around with a fucking sign and says, um,
this person has clear they're coming through
and they like you bypass security altogether.
Basically. It feels like that would be helpful
for like. Number one, disabled people and number
two, celebrities. But outside of that, no one
has any business getting that. OK, well, like
30 people in line had it. Special Pants McGee.
Yeah, it was so annoying. And I'm just going
to read this one to you verbatim. There was this
cunt in line for TSA in Dallas, and she just
decided to unhook the things between the poles
that define the line pattern while you're waiting
for TSA and just started walking wherever she
wanted. And she was promptly escorted out of
the terminal. Oh, they do not play about that.
They are not playing any games about that. But
like she was like screaming, I have kids. I have
kids with me. And then like I was just like kids
with us, please. I was just like the audacity,
though, just to like unhook the things and just
start walking wherever the fuck you want. Like,
OK, that's fine. That's insane. I decided I really
need to get better about the way I pack. So a
secret about me is and you know how much I love
Delta. What I don't love about Delta is if you
check a bag before you're checked in, it is $40
to check a bag. Delta has to make their money
and I won't hold that against them. So what I
typically do is I will take a carry on size bag
with me and I 100 % of the time know that I will
not be exiting the airplane with that bag. I
will check it at the gate because I am never
on it. I've in my entire life, I've been on one
flight that was not like almost completely full.
Right. And I'm happy to. I love to check a bag.
I love the glamour. I don't know if I've ever
told the podcast, the sick thing that I believe
is going to happen, but I believe that I will
meet the love of my life at a baggage claim at
an airport. I have to tell you the sick way me
and Kenny travel when you're done with your story.
Don't let me forget. I have a sick thing where
like, I believe that at some point I'm going
to be at baggage claim. I assume somewhere I
love Atlanta. Miami, wherever. I'm going to be
at baggage claim. I'm going to be reaching for
a gray Samsonite suitcase and someone's hand
is going to meet mine. And I'm going to look
and I'm like, oh, do we have the same suitcase?
And he'll be like, oh, I'm sorry. Like that.
That's yours. And I'm like, no, maybe it's yours.
And then we'll fall in love and then we'll get
married after that. I believe that's going to
happen for me. I hope it does. I truly hope it
does. So sick and stupid. So like. But what I
do know is that I do overpack. Like I. Me too,
sister. Oh, it's bad. Like I was in Dallas for
three days. No, I'm sorry. Two days. I took no
less than 12 outfits with me. Can you say that
too? I don't overpack to that extent. I, a symptom
of my mental illness is that I have to. While
I'm packing, be looking at an itinerary of what
I'm doing on my trip. And I have to pack accordingly.
Oh, see, I wish I could be like that. I feel
like you're like Kenny and you just look in your
closet and everything you feel like bringing
goes in the suitcase. That is not my vibe. That's
exactly what I do actually. It makes me so anxious.
I hate it. Cause I'm like, you don't know. Okay.
First of all, you're 100 % of the time going
to overpack when you do that. But secondly, you're
also, you could miss something. Like what if
you're on your itinerary is to like go horseback
riding or something and you don't bring an extra
outfit for that? I don't know. It would stress
me out to no end if I didn't pack along with
my itinerary. You want to know what I didn't
do is miss anything because I took it all with
me. I took everything with me. Do you pack four
pairs of underwear for each day, too, just in
case? At least two. That's okay. You're going
to shit your pants every day. No, it's because
I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I'm up walking,
if I'm up doing anything, it's going to smell
like balls. Well, like, and you sweat and whatever.
And I get that. And like, if you're going to
do like a going out to dinner thing and you want
to change and shower before that, like you need
a night. I get that. I do. Kenny went on that
trip to Cabo for a week. I am not kidding when
I tell you he packed almost every single pair
of underwear that he owns, like upwards of 20.
It's actually insane. I have to tell you, I see
nothing in the world wrong with that. So, but,
like, I do know that, like, what I will, so,
like, I'll have the bag that is allegedly my
carry -on, like, roller bag, but, like, I know
it will be checked. Right. I'll pack that, and
I'm like, okay, and I've never once had this
happen where my bags have gotten lost. Like,
these stories of people losing bags, I... I don't
believe all of them are true. Like I know it
has to happen, but like most of the time we can
find them. Like you go to the little office by
baggage claim and like they'll figure out where
it is. Right. Or you have a fucking air tag in
it. It's just not that deep. That's what we do
anyway. Yeah. So I'm like, OK, but if in the
off chance it does happen, I'm going to put a
couple of packing cubes of like outfits in my
backpack just in case. And so. I end up having
a completely full backpack, a completely full
suitcase. And it's a lot. Sure. So I do have
to get better about the way I pack. Tell me your
story because I don't want you to forget it.
Oh, anytime Kenny and I go anywhere, even if
we're bringing Jack, we do a checked bag. I hate
a carry -on. I hate it so much. I don't like
having to put it in the bin. I don't like having
to pull it out of the bin. It's heavy. It's annoying.
I feel like I'm going to forget it in the airport
too. Like I'm just going to walk away from it
and forget I had it. So we hate a carry -on and
we do a checked bag. It's been overweight. Every
single time we've gone to the airport and it's
just like a sunk cost at this point, we are down
to pay an extra hundred dollars every time we
go to the airport. I love a checked bag. Listen,
they can be whatever. Like if the limit is 50
pounds, our checked bag is 80. We have a giant
bag and it is full to the brim and I don't give
a fuck at all. Speaking of a checked bag. I am
just going to put this out there away luggage.
I want you to sponsor this podcast and I want
it so bad. I want an away bag. It's so bad. So
like send me one. I've never seen that. Oh my
God. They're so glamorous away. Please sponsor
us. Um, and I will, I will shift my story from
being my. My Samsonite baggage claim. I will
find love with an away suitcase at baggage claim.
100%. Please sponsor us. What else? OK, so I
need to get better. Oh, I tried Whataburger.
Oh, yeah. Did you like it? It was so fucking
good. They are good. It was so good to the point
where I was at Dallas Fort Worth Airport. And
they're not in. Or at least the one I went to,
because I know they have three or four scattered
around the airport. Because the Dallas Fort Worth
Airport is unimaginably massive. That's what
I've heard. It's like intense. It is so huge.
And there are like five or six terminals and
they're building more right now. It's insane.
But Dallas was this way, too. Like Dallas is
huge. I thought you were talking about Dallas.
no no no no like this like i'm back in dallas
it's like coming back from dallas at this point
no i know but you said the dallas port worth
airport is huge and then you said dallas is also
that way it's huge yeah like the the the or like
the city itself okay sorry okay yeah i see okay
um the airport's huge dallas is huge it's the
hotel i stayed in was fucking everything's bigger
it's huge they mean it i guess yeah they do and
like Oh, Lord. So, OK, you. I went to like I
had to go into like one of the things away from
the Delta Terminal to like the the airport. I
had to get in an airport tram to go find a Whataburger.
And I went back to the Delta Terminal and I was
like editing an episode of the podcast like.
That was that released last week. And it was
so great. I was so happy. And I was like, do
you know what I could go for again? And I went
back for a second. What a burger meal. As you
should. It was so good. It is good. It's like,
yeah. And they have like this spicy ketchup.
So good. I don't like ketchup, but I love ketchup.
Yeah, I always wanted a burger when I was living
in Louisiana. Oh, yeah, because it was like down
in the same region. OK, so the next thing on
my list was the Dallas -Fort Worth Airport is
so unfathomably huge. Like, it is wild. Can we
just thank Apple Maps for being detailed about
airports? Because I really do appreciate the
detail they put into every airport. It has saved
my life a thousand times. And I'm not even shitting
you. Like when I landed in Dallas, like it was
25 minutes of like the plane moving from the
runway to the gate. We're supposed to. Yeah.
Yeah. It was wild. And then I'm going to tell
you about the. Like so the experience of getting
on the plane in Dallas. So I'm sitting and the
woman comes on the thing and I have to assume
they probably oversold this flight. Like I think
this is probably really what the crux of the
issue was. But so you sit down. I'm finishing
my second meal of what a burger. I'm just like
listening to a podcast at this point. I'm so
happy. I'm like ready to get on a Delta flight
and just like be taken away. The gate agent comes
on. Half an hour before boarding starts and she
goes, this flight will be full. If you are in
zones six, seven, eight, you will not have a
choice but to check your bag. Yeah. OK. Then
the woman says, and we're going to go ahead and
just proactively start asking for volunteers
to check bags. Yeah. Great. It's happened on
at least three or four flights I've been on in
my life. Yeah. Like I was the first one in that
line. I said, please think. Take my bag. Thank
you. Please do. I was so excited. The number
of people that were completely unwilling to check
the bag. Like and it was like people were like
grumbling, whatever. And then the woman just
keeps making the announcement because she's like,
this is going to be an issue and we're trying
to get ahead of it. And the woman even said,
this will help you get on the plane and in the
air faster if you just do it. Because they know
that people are assholes. What do you have in
there? Your diamonds? Maybe. What are you so
precious about? Gate checking your bag. I don't
get it. I'll tell you, there was one person at
the end of the thing who was the last holdout
who said who was in the last boarding group who
was in the back of the plane. Who decided she
was going on principle not to check her bag.
So she carries her. And this was not a carry
on bag. Like I can definitively tell you, I looked
at it. I know what a carry on bag looks like.
This was not a carry on bag. Yeah. This girl
gets on the plane and I look at her and she just
looked like an asshole. Like she was ready to
fight someone. She's the main character. Oh,
she was the main character in her life. And she.
gets on the plane no more room in the thing and
the flight attendants are like you have to check
that back and she just ignores them and just
keeps on walking gets to the end of the thing
it doesn't it's not that it didn't fit in the
in the overhead bins it's that there was physically
no more space because you know that how they
start closing them as they get full they were
all closed she opens one up and she's like Well,
where am I going to put my bag? And girl, have
you been listening? Yeah. And this flight attendant
was like, there's nowhere to put it. You have
to check that bag. And three more flight attendants
moved to the back of the plane because they see
what's coming. And this girl just is having a
full blown meltdown screaming about, I don't
want to check my bag. I don't want to check my
bag. I don't want to check my bag. I just want
to know why. Because like if you have medication
or something, I get that. But they tell you,
take it out. Yes. Take anything. They will say,
take anything you think you might want on the
flight out. Yes. Medications, electronics, any
of that. You can take it out. Yes. And they will
give you the time and the space to do that. So
there's really no excuse. I don't get it. Yes.
And then she's screaming about how she has a
layover in Atlanta, which brings me back to,
yes, we all have a layover in Atlanta. Everyone
on this flight has a layover in Atlanta. Like,
are you flying with Quavo, who is actually going
to stay in Atlanta? Who do you think here is
really flying to Atlanta? Do you think everyone's
man just really loves Atlanta? Like, I haven't
spent that much time in Atlanta. I'm sure it's
a beautiful city and people love Atlanta. But
like, it's not exactly a vacation destination,
mama. It's not. I don't get it. So then the girl's
having the meltdown. And she's screaming about,
I have 10 minutes to get from my flight in Atlanta
to, like, where I get to Atlanta to where I leave
Atlanta. And let me tell you a couple things
here. You shouldn't have booked that. Delta allows
you to choose. Like, you select the flights you
want. I think most airlines do. Or, like, at
the very least, you can see that you did not
have enough time as you're booking the flight.
What? And so that was not a conversation I was
willing to participate in where she just keeps
going and going and going. Do you want to know
what took longer than 10 minutes? Her fight?
That fight. And so she's screaming, crying, growing
up. People are starting to film her. Yeah. And
I know I'm in the background just rolling my
eyes because I was right next to it happening.
Then. It's your moment. It comes to the point
where they're like, we will call the airport
police if you don't check the bag because you
were delaying the flight taking off. No flightless
for you, lady. I pray that she's on a list somewhere.
40 minutes of this. Emma, 40 minutes. You would
think if she's so worried about catching her
flight that she would just let it go. Yeah. You
would think. 40 minutes of this. I missed my
connecting flight in Atlanta, so I got to spend
the night in Atlanta. Thanks to this bitch. I
wonder how many people on that flight missed
their connecting flight because of her. The flight
is 70 percent of the people were connecting flights
at a minimum because we all ended up at the same.
Like desk. Well, I know, but sometimes you have
like a three hour layover or whatever. So like
it might be OK. Well, it was getting towards
the end of the night. So like. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Like I'm in my I mean, we hit Atlanta. It was
supposed to be, I think, 930. We didn't get there
till 1015. Oh, yeah. And usually planes stop
at what? Like 1130 or something. I would think.
Yeah. Um, so I got to spend the night in Atlanta.
That was my, that was my journey to podcast movement.
Um, or yeah, home from podcast. I'm glad you
got there better than you've got. For sure. It
was like, and I did, I did make the best of it.
Like I, you know, I like, I was like, I'm finding
the silver lining. I'm in my, one of my favorite
cities, the United States, Marriott property
spending the night. It was wonderful. Yeah. Like
you're going to have a free breakfast in the
morning and I'll be okay. It was beautiful. Um,
The I will say my podcast friend, Jordan, who
hosts What's Your One Thing? He's coming on the
show. He's so excited. I'm very excited. We're
going to make him watch an episode of The Real
Housewives and it'll be I'll leave it a surprise.
But like Emma knows which one it is. And I'm
it's very iconic. It's going to be great. You've
seen it if you've seen Salt Lake City at all.
Oh, we love. I'm so excited. But yeah, that was
the podcast movement. Hooray. Oh, are you ready
to complain? And it's finishing her donut. I'm
going to kick off complaining with. Have you
seen this trend on TikTok of the people who are
like, I want your hacks for this like problem
that I'm having. I'm not talking about like ones
for like migraines or whatever. I'm not talking
about taking Excedrin and drink water. I'm talking
about your most unhinged hacks. Yes. The format
is, I'm not talking about the obvious answer.
I'm talking about engagement farming. That is
the format. Oh, is that what it is? 100 % it
is. Okay, so I think I'm particularly sensitive.
Not sensitive, but I think it makes me angry.
And maybe that's why it makes me angry. Because
I'm just like, what are you doing? This is not
a real thing that people do. it's and it's i
i'm sure everyone has seen these posts where
it's like just text on like a background and
it's just a picture where it's like uh tell me
why it's controversial for people to eat like
not be hungry and like you have you're gonna
get reactions from both sides of the argument
is as many comments as possible oh they yeah
now i hate it more yeah that's 100 % what it
is okay I've seen one that's like for moms and
whatever. And listen, I understand reaching out
to the Internet and being like, I'm a first time
mom. Tell me everything you wish you knew before
I get into it. Fine. Framing it in that way is
so weird. Stop being weird. It is. It's weird.
Stop being weird. I yeah, it's engagement for
me. I hate it. I hate it so much. Well, now we
know. Be funny or entertaining. Be funny. Something.
Also, please engage with us. Yeah, but at least
we're not pandering. Right. Like, Jesus. Tell
me your most unhinged hydration hack. I'm not
talking about drinking water. Jesus Christ. I'm
not talking about liquid IV. I'm talking about
how do you get water? Like, please. And because
never on any of them have I seen anything helpful
or like. Any ingenuity or anything. I haven't
seen anything inventive. Nothing like that. It's
not to start a conversation. It's to get as many
comments as possible. It's just so weird. I have
a quick one and a basic one to complain about
today. And it is spam texts. I don't. Listen,
I get a hundred spam calls a day and that does
still does not bother me as much as a spam text.
I got one yesterday that just said, are you home?
The most ominous thing in the fucking world to
ask me. And I was on my way to get Jack and I
like kept checking my ring camera because I was
like, I'm a paranoid person. And I just every
time I get something like that, I'm like, oh,
I'm in a horror film. i will say the spam texts
have gone on one hand it's it's like at this
point it's like i think it's just a fact of life
now because like i don't understand how it has
become so pervasive the the problem that i have
are the ones that are like because like you've
always had scams out in the world right the ones
the problems that i have now are like the people
where it's like we're texting mass amounts of
people being like hey i this is crystal from
um From Monster .com or, like, Crystal from wherever,
from LinkedIn. I get those. I get them ten times
a day. Right. Those don't bother me as much as
the, like, ominous one -liner only to me. Like,
if it's in a group message or whatever, I'm like,
whatever, girl. But it's this ominous, like,
one -liner weird one. Are you home? Like. Ew.
What? Yeah. I agree. That's. Not great. I hate
them. I hate them so much. I hate spam texts.
Yeah. And also spam calls are annoying only because
there are some numbers I don't have saved that
I need to answer when they call me, i .e. my
doctor or the ultrasound text. I want to schedule
my ultrasounds and I don't answer them because
I don't know the number. I don't know what the
answer to that is, but I can tell you if. A politician
ran and his, his or her only running promise
or like campaign promise was I will stop spam
texts and, and scam like phone calls. Biggest
landslide you've ever seen. I'm telling you right
now. The whole country would cheer. Yeah. I,
I don't even know. Like where, where did they
get my phone number? Where did it leak from?
I'm sure it's people selling my data. Anyway,
that's all I wanted to complain about today.
Well, that is a valid complaint. I hate, hate,
hate, hate, hate, hate scam techs. Yeah. The
job recruiting ones are not as annoying as the
weirdo ones. Well, no, they bother me because,
like, in today's job market, like, you're going
to dangle that out in front of someone's face
and then be like, oh, yeah, sorry. It's just
scam. You got to message me on WhatsApp. Yeah.
No, that's true. Someone was like looking forward
to a job. I don't know. I don't know. I don't
like any of it. Are you ready for reality roundup?
Yes. We have a lot on the horizon. Real Housewives
of Salt Lake City comes back on September 17th.
Real Housewives of Potomac comes back on October
5th. And The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season
3 comes back on November 13th. I'm going to have
the best third trimester of my life. I'm going
to be huge and glued to my couch. I could not
be more excited because these are three of my
favorite shows and it's all happening together.
I'm so excited. The Potomac trailer looked so...
Good. This is what I love, and I wish they would
have done this with Salt Lake City after Jen
went to prison. They lean into Karen Huger being
in jail. 100%. They're writing her prison letters.
Yes. And I think I predicted on the pod that
they would bring Monique back. I'm pretty sure
I said that. When we were still recording in
the library, like early on when we were talking
about Potomac, I'm pretty sure I said, I hope
with Karen gone, it's either Candace or Monique
coming back. Well, I think the reason that Monique
is coming back is because Candace didn't come
back. 100%. I know they would have preferred
Candace, but I love Monique's messy ass. It's
so fun to watch. Oh, I loved Monique. I don't
know if I knew she was divorced. She's divorced?
Well, in the Potomac trailer, they say Stacey
was flirting with Monique's ex -husband, Chris
Samuels. Ex -husband. Yeah. Monique Samuels finalized
her divorce from Chris Samuels in September 2023.
The couple. What? Two years ago. The couple separated
in October 2022. What? Yeah. That was like a
big. I didn't know that she was divorced. I had
no idea. Well, yeah. So like on in the trailer,
I clocked that they were saying Stacey was flirting
with Chris Samuel's Monique's ex -husband. And
I was like, hold the phone. What? Because that's
he. They seem tight knit. When they were on the
show. Crazy. Right. I did not see that split
coming. I'll be so honest. They seemed like they
really were like yin and yang with each other.
Like really cool. No, I thought if there was
ever a marriage that would last and I'm not joking,
I thought it was Chris and Monique. Crazy. I
thought they really did have like a, an opposite
to track kind of thing where like, yeah, he cooled
her off and she hyped him up, you know? Oh, I
did. That's so crazy. Wow. Yeah. OK. And speaking
of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City coming back,
we're going to have husbands watching Housewives
on after the Salt Lake Salt Lake City premiere
to recap the first episode with them. I'm very
excited. They're very excited to meet you. They're
very excited. They have a lot of questions about
you. Oh, I'm excited. Yeah, I'm so excited. In
other reality news, did you see that Angie Katzenavis
partnered with a tequila brand? I did not. Oh.
Let me see. Hold on. Okay. I don't know how I
didn't catch that. It was because it's one of
a billion tequila brands and it wasn't her tequila
brand. It was like a partnership with them. But
Lisa Barlow is furious. It's the candle thing
from Potomac. Just Utah. 100 % it is. oh but
yeah that's so funny of course she is of course
she is that was my thing you're threatening my
business and lisa i get it like because it was
the same thing with um in new york city when
bethany frankel was still on real housewives
uh sonia morgan started a or she was going to
start a like mixed drink brand called tipsy girl
And Bethany Frankel was like, everyone else was
mad. Bethany Frankel was like, you can do whatever
you want to do. I'm not. It's not a conversation
I'm willing to participate in because you will
never be skinny girl, basically. 100%. And I
feel like that name is close enough that you
could get a cease and desist, honestly. And then
finally, Karen Huger is getting out of jail.
Next week. Clink, clink. September 2nd. That's
the day of my glucose test. Oh, my God. I didn't
realize it was the same day. I'm going to be
so happy. Just scrolling in the OB waiting for
this. I'm excited for you. Just waiting for the
news. Oh, my God. Do you think she'll come back?
Do you think they'll have her back? Are you fucking
kidding? I mean, they have to, right? They have
to. I have to. And this is the thing about Karen
where I don't know if Bravo wants her back because
I do think the way that Karen went about the
denial of everything and like I don't like the
way she handled it. I have to assume that they're
like, you know, we can't really promote her in
this way. I do think Karen expects Bravo cameras
to be rolling when she walks out of. the front
of the jail. Okay. So I just feel like Andy Cohen
really has his finger on the pulse of like what
people will watch and people would watch her
return. I don't think it'll be like what she's
expecting. You know what I mean? No, I think,
I think people are going to want to hold her
accountable. And I think Karen's argument is
going to be. I've served my time. I have nothing
else to prove to you people. I know that. That's
the problem I have with her. I don't like her
because of that. Don't put her in a reunion with
Andy Cohen or he is going to drag her to hell
and back. So there's that. Speaking of people
getting out of jail. I Nick Vile was on his podcast
and Monica Garcia was on and Monica was the one
who used to work for Jen Shaw. Yeah. He asked
if Jen comes back, do you think they're going
to bring you back at any point? And I pray that
I pray that this happens because I would pay
actual money to see them just fight. 100%. Can
you imagine? Oh, my God. Anyway, I just can't.
Oh, speaking of Andy Cohen real quick. He they
got him on Peacock to host the Love Island reunion.
Oh, tell me about that because I didn't watch
it. OK, because there's there's been a lot of
talk around that. I don't think the contestants
nor the audience of Love Island, i .e. Braindead.
20 something. Sure. New Andy Cohen's type of
game because he came for them the way Andy Cohen
comes for people. And they were like shocked
that he was asking these questions. You could
see on their faces that they were like. I didn't
think you would actually ask me that type of
thing. You know what I mean? They didn't say
that, but you could just tell. And I was like,
oh, you novice bitches. You don't know. What
did they think was going to happen? Well, so
they had Andy Cohen and Ariana Maddox. You know,
Ariana hosts. Yeah. They were very good cop,
bad cop. Oh, yeah. I actually really love it.
I loved it, too. The contestants who were on
the show and were doing the reunion, they didn't
give a lot to work with, to be honest. But Andy
did press them multiple times. Oh, that's incredible.
The show just ended a month ago, right? It just
ended at the end of July. And there was this
girl, the one who I complained about, who was
a single mom. crashing out all the time on national
television. Was her name Huda? Yeah. Okay, yeah.
She had the nerve to sit there. And you know
Andy Cohen, he's just like no bullshit. So she
had the nerve to sit there and be like, you know,
the experience was really eye -opening for me.
I think it's really changed me as a person. I've
done a lot of reflection. And Andy Cohen goes,
you did a month of self -reflection and you're
a different person. the way she just clammed
right up it's like you guys don't know you can't
just sit there and bullshit in front of andy
cohen he's gonna get the truth tea but here's
the real thing about andy you you know what he
did before he worked for bravo right no he was
like an actual journalist like producing content
or not uh not content for abc or nbc one of the
two it had to be nbc because it I could be wrong,
but he was like a real journalist. Like he was
in the trenches. That's not surprising to me
at all. He was getting to the facts of the matter.
And he's like, not going to fuck around with
your bullshit. No, you cannot go on a reunion
hosted by Andy Cohen or God forbid, watch what
happens live and expect to. push a bullshit narrative.
He's not going to hear it out. And like, there's
this one guy on there who is a legitimately brain
dead. Like he is so stupid. Austin. I'm not afraid
to say that he is stupid. And, and at one point
Andy asked him a question and he was like, sorry,
Andy, I was zoned out for like the last five
minutes. And Andy just asked him again. I love
everything about this. It was gorgeous. It was
gorgeous to watch. If you were not interested
in the actual reunion and just interested in
Andy Cohen experiencing the Love Island cast,
it was amazing. I think he's the perfect person
to bring on for all of these interview type things.
100%. He's messy. He should be over books. And
I'm sure he is. Everyone wants him for everything.
Oh, for sure. Oh, I love that. That's gold. It
was beautiful. And the thing is, he holds himself
so well that, like, he never comes off as particularly
bitchy until you think about what he's saying.
You know what I mean? I do. Yeah. Love. Anyway.
He's also hot. Andy Cohen, if you're ever looking
for a boyfriend. Or a girlfriend. Either way.
Hello. So. We're doing a season one, episode
four of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City
titled Roaring Emotions. Yeah. We're at Whitney's
party. Yes. I forgot about that. Whitney needs
money for the strippers and Justin only has 20.
So she just immediately starts throwing 20s at
the strippers. Which is beautiful. Strippers,
I hope you did that. I hope you got yourself
into a Louis V off of Whitney being like that.
She said, OK. She said, I'm going to support
dancer. Jen pulls Meredith aside to talk about
canceling the sleepover. And Meredith is a little
a little diplomatic about the whole thing. And
I think. More diplomatic than she needed to be,
but she didn't want to embarrass Jen about her
puss being out. And Jen keeps obsessing over
Meredith being friends with Mary. And Meredith
comes in as a rational person, and she's trying
to talk to an irrational person. It was very
evident. Sometimes Jen is a little like rage
baby, like she's just trying to get you to be
emotional about something. OK, I feel like instead
of actually like getting down to the crux of
the issue, you know what I mean? Maybe I even
if that is part of it, I think at the end of
the day, Jen wants loyalty, blind loyalty. Yeah,
but I don't understand. she was friends with
mary before so is being loyal in jen's definition
does that mean following jen wherever she goes
like i don't understand that i think so because
she would have been okay with you being friends
with mary a year ago yeah but not anymore so
don't be friends with her anymore that's like
that's that's truly how i see it i really yeah
i really do have a problem with that but moving
on um Whitney's messy. She goes, as the host
of the party, do you think I need to go see what's
going on over there? Diva, just say that you
want to be in the drama. Just say you want to
get in the middle of it and you want camera time.
Yeah, if it were my party, I would be like, what
are we talking about in my house? In my speakeasy?
What are we talking about? sorry and then lisa
goes over to like simmer things down and then
we get the infamous i'm disengaging i've had
enough of this i'm not engaging and i forgot
that this is where it came from because like
i've seen the meme a billion times and i'm like
oh yeah i love this i honestly really respect
that to just be like because i've done that before
to like kenny or whatever like if i'm having
a whatever a little tiff i've been like yeah
i'm done with this conversation like curtain
closed we're done i'm disengaging yeah i'm disengaging
i i love that and then lisa's sitting there with
jen and jen's crashing out and she goes you're
gonna go over there with mary who fucks her grandfather
and you see the faces that the people make And
this is something where it became very clear
where like these women all got together before
the show and they made these faces because I
think this is one of the things that they agreed.
They just weren't going to say they weren't going
to do it. Right. A line we're not going to cross.
And I understand why, because like a thousand
percent. Yes, I understand. Yeah. It changes
the whole tone of the show. Yeah. Like, yeah.
Anyway. Weird, weird, weird. Yeah. And I really
like respected Lisa for sitting down with Jen
and being like, let out your emotions. Like,
let's just talk. Yes. And then Jen just had to
take it too far. Yes. Just had to. Yeah. meredith
ends up leaving and then jen is fully blacked
out like you can hear it in her voice she is
blacked out and she calls sharif to come pick
her up and then jen ends up outside of the speakeasy
antique store with heather chasing after and
i feel bad for heather because i feel like heather
is trying to make it better but like all you
get is jen screaming Don't follow me. Don't touch
me. Like she's doing the whole thing. And I'm
like, you're in the middle of a street. I do
feel bad for Heather because I feel like she's
genuinely trying to show up for Jen the way Jen
has requested people show up for her. And she
won't accept it. And even then, she's not enough.
And this, this doesn't negate like where I do
feel like Heather is a little bit wishy -washy
in the first season, especially where she's like,
Oh no, Jen's great. Jen's amazing. And then behind
the scenes, she's like, she's out of her fucking
mind. But in the moment, what do you do with
a person like that? Yeah. I don't know that I
would want to go out drinking with Jen Shaw.
She doesn't seem like a very fun John. She seems
like if all eyes aren't on her, she'll just like
spin out of control. Like, I don't know. And
like, I have been like, I've been out at teeny
before with people where like the wheels start
to fall off and things start going off the rails.
And like we're out on the middle of Mass Ave.
And like this, I'm thinking of one person in
particular. And I've had to like grab someone
by the shoulders and be like, you were in public.
Shut the fuck up. And like, I wish Heather would
have done that because like, what are you doing?
She couldn't have said that or she would have
had to apologize 17 times to Jen. Right. Anyway.
The next day, everyone's unpacking their feelings,
and Heather straight up says she's afraid of
Jen. And this will come back later in the season,
dear listener. I want you to remember, Heather
says she is afraid of Jen. Yes. Okay. Just want
to make sure we're all on the same page about
that. Yeah. Yeah. I think we have to be careful
with our words, Heather, because... No, no, no,
no, no. I... It comes back because. No, I remember.
Okay. I just, I feel like if she would have said,
I feel like Jen's a loose cannon or something
like that. She wouldn't have had to like deal
with everything that comes later. You know what
I mean? I see what you're saying. Yeah. Anyway.
Yeah. How could she have foreseen? Right. Meredith
and Lisa are at an art gallery. Oh, yeah. And
they're looking at the art. And Lisa is so weird.
I feel like she's like me. Like, when you go
clothes shopping, you have to feel the texture
of everything. Sure. But she's doing it with
art. Like, actual art. And the fact that, like,
she asks at every station, can I touch? Can I
touch? Viva, you know you're not supposed to
touch art. Like, there's oils on your fingers.
What are you doing? You weirdo. I thought that
was hilarious. Yeah. But this is where we end
up finding out or where we don't find out. Meredith
tells Lisa that she and Seth have been separated
off and on. Yeah. And I didn't think Lisa would
react like that. I feel like she was just blindsided.
I feel like she thought that she and Meredith
were so close that like she would have been getting
texts about the fights leading up to that and
stuff like that. So for her to just hear that
they have been separated for some time, I feel
like really surprised her. But. I do buy that
her reaction was genuine and she's like, I just
want my friends to be OK. Like, I thought that
was so sweet. Yeah, 100 percent. Well, I feel
like Lisa understands the difference between
like, oh, we're on this reality TV show. He ha
ha versus like, oh, this is like a real issue
going on in your life. And like. that's not good
anyway yeah and then lisa goes over to mary's
house mary says she decides she's gonna throw
a luncheon with all the girls to come together
and work through their shit and the theme is
going to be which is not a theme by the way it's
not a theme it's a place it's at the met and
it is a gala so is your theme art museum party
like i don't understand it It's so silly. And
Mary wants to invite Jen, but she's not sure
if she wants to or she's not sure about this
decision because she can't handle the meltdowns.
And OK, this is like a side note that I wrote
down where this is episode number four. I wonder
how many of these happened off camera that didn't
make it to the final show, because like. Someone
melts down a couple of times and you're like,
oh, whatever. She's melted down every episode,
though. And every time Mary sees her, she's having
a meltdown. Right. So in my mind, I'm like, oh,
you've seen this. 15, 20 times. And you're just
like, I can't handle this anymore. I don't even
know. Like, I'm sure that there are a few, at
least off camera that we didn't see, but like
she shows up to Meredith's birthday party at
Jen's house. Jen has a meltdown. She shows up
to Whitney's party. Jen has a meltdown. Like,
I think that is a pattern in and of itself. It's
exhausting. Yeah. And then. Jen goes over to
Heather's house and they unpack a little bit
about Whitney's party and Jen's behavior at the
party. And Jen blames it on a hard week with
Sharif being gone and the anniversary of her
dad passing. I want to say something really quick.
Oh, your phone's going to fall. I want to say
something really quick. This is all happening
around January, February. OK. They show a flashback
of Jen visiting her dad's gravesite. Yeah. Her
dad died in September. I don't know. Like, whatever.
I won't take away the grief and like, whatever.
It's a bullshit excuse regardless. Yes. I'm sorry.
Yes. Even if. You were actively grieving. I don't
think that's a reason to get so drunk. You call
your friend incestuous and then start screaming
in the street. Like, I'm sorry. That's no reason.
Insane. Yeah. We also find out that Sharif couldn't
be at her dad's funeral because he was traveling
for work, which really sucks. I don't know how
Jen got through it without Sharif being there.
So I will give her that. Yeah, for sure. But
at the same time, like it's not like Sharif just
started traveling. Like this is the career he's
had for some time now. Yes. He travels a lot.
Sure. You use it to your advantage to throw parties,
Miss Ma 'am. And I don't know. It feels like
like. kenny has to work 24 7 and i can't pick
and choose when that's annoying for me you know
what i mean i agree but like i do think it is
valid for her to like i don't know how long i
mean not i don't know this isn't the right way
to say it i don't know like when it stops being
a relevant to the issue excuse that your husband
was not there for your dad's funeral yeah no
and that has to be hard and i do get that a hundred
percent but at the same time i do feel i also
feel like it's something you can anticipate when
you know that your partner has a demanding career
that and also it has nothing to do with your
meltdown about mary like those are two very again
not a good excuse for this right um And then
we find out that Meredith's birthday party cost
$85 ,000. Thank you, fraud. And like, I look
at that party and I'm like, I'll buy. 30, 40.
I don't know that I buy 85 ,000. I would like
to see some line items and some invoices. I mean,
you have the fire dancers. I'm sure she had like
a full bar. Sure. And the decorations covered
her whole entire house. Sure. And you hired people
to like take it down and put it up. I don't know.
Okay, fair. But like $85 ,000? It still seems
a little steep. I'm sure she's inflating. I'm
sure. And then she also lets it slip that Meredith
and Seth are separated. This is. Here's the thing,
Jen. If you were separated from Sharif and someone
let it slip without you telling them. Yeah, you'd
kill him. Right. Like, shut up. So then we get
to Mary's Met Gala luncheon. This was a fucking
fever dream. Which is just a themeless luncheon,
in my opinion. There's nothing Met Gala -y about
it, except that they're all dressed up. If you
wanted to have a glamazon, everyone wear your
best gown party, just say that. Whatever. But
also it's the middle of the day. I don't know.
It was noon on a Saturday. If you wanted everyone
to be dressed to the nines at noon on a Saturday,
just say that. Don't call it a Met Gala. I could
feel the weather that was happening right here.
Cause it's like, it was January, February. You're
like, and you know, like where it's like cold,
but the sun's beating down on you. So you're
hot and cold at the same time and you're uncomfortable.
I know that's what they were feeling. 100%. And
like everywhere. you go inside is like way too
hot for some reason yes yeah 100 % Mary has I
assume two people from her church I don't know
but they're laying everything out for the party
and like they're doing the place settings and
she goes can you read oh because the names are
upside down I thought they were staff like at
the place she was hosting the lunch maybe okay
I don't know who those people were but yeah she
was mean as dirt oh my god it's just a tiny detail
or it's just a huge detail like i i don't know
like she was so mean to them like you can't put
down some place cards yourself miss ma 'am oh
my god oh my god and then heather has the same
confusion about the matt gala theme as i did
it's it's an event it's not a theme but that's
okay Right. And like, it's a party that's famous
for being different every single year. Like,
yes. Never looks the same. Yes. In fact, it's
in different exhibits each year. Yes. Okay. Anyway.
Jesus Christ. We talked about this man on our
last episode, Walter. He's the owner of this
restaurant. Yes. And he. It's so intense about
tasting the wine. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that.
Yeah. He like does the thing and he's like, oh.
Oh. Right. Oh. It was weird. Yeah. At least he's
passionate about what he does, I guess. Absolutely.
And I feel like I've told you this. We're going
to this restaurant. We go to Salt Lake City because
it's real Italian food. I want to go so bad.
I really do want to go. Everyone starts to show
up and they're greeted by guys in Nutcracker
costumes. Yeah. And these are all guys from Mary's
Church 100%, right? Or something. I just, I'm
so confused about the theme. The theme was wild.
Where did we get Nutcrackers? I don't know. I
don't know. They were finding their footing as
a cast, I guess. I forgot about the next part.
Please take it, please. Oh, my God. So Mary wants
everyone to know that they're fancy and they're
drinking 2003 Dom Perignon. Which is fancy because
it's the year he killed 5 ,000 people. But also
it made the best grapes of all time. Oh, my God.
She's just the worst. She's the worst. I want
you to remember this moment when we get to season
four or five. Season four, because it's the one
for Monica Garcia is there. I want you to remember
this for season four. I will. Oh, my God. Mary.
When I watched this season, I did not like her
so deeply. And so every time she did something
like that, I was like, you evil monster witch.
Oh, my God. It killed 5 ,600 people, but it made
the best grapes of all time. That was a wild
thing to say out loud. Like, why would you say
that? Again, first lady of a church. I don't.
Okay, Miss Mary. Okay, Mary. Yeah. She also gives
everyone a pair of Louis Vuitton earbuds. And
I did a little investigative journalism. One
pair of these is $1 ,660. And this is like the
ones that they're selling today. So all total,
she spent $8 ,300. Ostensibly, let's call it
$6 ,000 to account for inflation. That didn't
include the personalized journals and the pens
and everything. Do we think these were real or
do we think they were from DHgate? I don't think
she could handle the scrutiny she would face
if one of these women called it out for being
fake. So I think they're real, especially with
all the Chanel in those closets. you know what
i mean she gets a ten thousand dollar bag once
a month you know what i mean so like i kind of
believe maybe that is wild i wonder if she was
able to write that off as a business expense
because like it was for the show i hope so i
hope so i don't know i don't know but i do like
when i when i think about her closet and stuff
like that I'm like, yeah, that's probably real.
And also, I think she would be so, again, severely
embarrassed if like Jen or Heather was like,
even off camera, they were like, these are obviously
fake. Do you think? Maybe. I mean, that's wild,
though. $8 ,300 for people you don't really like.
Right. And also earbuds you don't really like.
Like those can't be good. I don't know. I don't
know. I've never tried the Louis Vuitton AirPods,
but here we are. They can't be good. No. We started
to do the thing that we do on every, every Real
Housewives dinner where they go around and we're
sharing something the rest of the group doesn't
know. We're like, whatever. Mary shares that
she has trust issues. I don't even want to dive
into that. Of course you do. Of course you do.
Of course you do. I'm sure you do. Right. When
he says that she's working on not caring what
other people think about her, but she's not a
swinger. And she really hits the G's. And I don't
know why that bothers me so much. But like. Yeah.
I get it. Do you? To some extent, it's like if
she's really not a swinger, then. It's like,
how do you let that go? Like, if there's any
rumor about you that you know is not true, it's
like. i find it easy but i do see the difficulty
where it's like well i know the truth about me
and so like i'm just gonna carry on with my life
and la -di -da -di -da but when you're on a reality
tv show i feel like everything is so heightened
yeah but it's like how do you just let this go
like you're trying to control everyone's perception
of you on this show sure and it's like something
gets so spun out of control like that where it's
like now everyone thinks i'm a swinger am i just
like supposed to be okay with that or like how
do i grapple with that i don't know i kind of
see it okay but like it's fair if i were whitney
i would just lean into being hot i would too
i feel like maybe we are swingers i i i've said
it before i'll say it again i would swing with
them i do think a hundred percent if i were whitney
It's just the way I am, so it's not really fair,
because I understand people are different. But
I would just leave it a mystery. Like, I would
just not... I wouldn't talk about it at all.
I would be like, maybe I am, maybe I'm not. That's
none of your business. Maybe. You know what I
mean? Yeah, I agree. That's what I would do,
but I'm not her. Lisa shares that she has extremely
high goals for herself. And saying this literally
moves her to tears. She's so girl boss. She's...
Lisa. That 2003 Dom Perignon is really hitting.
I have never seen anything like it before. And...
Good for her. You can see on the show when she's
like doing her own thing. She does have really
high goals for herself and she believes in goal
setting to like a fault almost. So it's like,
I get it, but girl, why are we crying at noon
at this luncheon about having, uh, anyway, anyway,
goals. And then we have Jen. Go for it. Jen's
just talking about her childhood, being the oldest
in the family, which comes with the expectation
to always be perfect. I'm the oldest. I get it.
It's not that you need to be perfect, but it
is like you're a third parent. You need to be
responsible and all of that. Sure. But then she
goes on to relate it to loyalty and friendship.
And she explains that she's intense because she
cares so much. That's why she said Mary fucks
her grandfather. Because she cares so much. She
cares so much. She does end up apologizing to
Meredith because they had that tip. Sure. Yeah.
And it seems like Meredith accepts that apology
and whatever. It's fine. And then Mary, like
not at the table, but in her confessional is
asking why she didn't get an apology. I think
that's fair. I mean, yeah. But I want you to
remember that the thing about her being the oldest
kid when we start talking about the indictment.
Because this does come back to rear its ugly
head eventually. Oh, yeah. I watched that a few
weeks ago, actually. Did you? Yeah. So. Yeah,
so we leave it off at the luncheon. Yeah, we
get it to be continued. Just like this episode
will be to be continued because you have to go
get Jack ready or you have to go get Jack from
school. Yeah, in like 15 minutes or something.
So we will do the rest of this luncheon next
time. Yay. Wonderful viewer. Dear listener, thank
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