WEBVTT 00:00:17.429 --> 00:00:20.670 Travis. I'm Emma. This is the second episode 00:00:20.670 --> 00:00:28.010 we've recorded today. Yay! Bestie approved! So... 00:00:28.010 --> 00:00:32.710 We don't have nearly as much in this episode 00:00:32.710 --> 00:00:36.609 as we did the last episode, so... We should be 00:00:36.609 --> 00:00:38.850 able to get through it. We'll power through. 00:00:38.969 --> 00:00:41.689 We'll do it. We'll make it happen. Obviously, 00:00:41.869 --> 00:00:44.149 Emma doesn't have a pregnancy update from right 00:00:44.149 --> 00:00:47.640 now, but... Emma's traveling to Louisiana next 00:00:47.640 --> 00:00:50.439 week, and I am going to edit in her pregnancy 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:57.380 update next week. So... Here that is. Hey, guys. 00:00:58.079 --> 00:01:01.820 I didn't make it to Louisiana because they still 00:01:01.820 --> 00:01:05.040 can't fix my car. Don't worry. I'll be complaining 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:10.680 about it for weeks and weeks to come. But baby 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:16.290 is the size of a mango. hey and uh doing great 00:01:16.290 --> 00:01:19.989 kind of low energy and like i'm really stuffed 00:01:19.989 --> 00:01:23.689 up which is a pregnant thing um but other than 00:01:23.689 --> 00:01:28.189 that doing wonderfully there's a spot on my couch 00:01:28.189 --> 00:01:30.909 i sit in so frequently it's starting to creak 00:01:30.909 --> 00:01:35.530 but we're just ignoring that um yeah but in other 00:01:35.530 --> 00:01:43.189 baby news my cousin is having her baby It's kind 00:01:43.189 --> 00:01:45.810 of good I didn't make it to Louisiana. Anyway, 00:01:45.890 --> 00:01:49.290 see you next week. Well, what a great pregnancy 00:01:49.290 --> 00:01:51.489 update that was. I'm so happy that we did that. 00:01:51.530 --> 00:01:54.049 Things are going great. Your baby is the size 00:01:54.049 --> 00:01:59.269 of an object. A mango. A mango, yes. We do know 00:01:59.269 --> 00:02:01.530 that it will be the size of a mango. Yeah, I 00:02:01.530 --> 00:02:05.030 cheat in my app and look all the time. Speaking 00:02:05.030 --> 00:02:07.930 of that app, you know I downloaded that app just 00:02:07.930 --> 00:02:10.389 to see where your pregnancy was at as you go. 00:02:11.259 --> 00:02:13.099 My God, the amount of emails they're willing 00:02:13.099 --> 00:02:17.599 to send you. I should have made a burner email 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:19.740 just for that app, because like they've also 00:02:19.740 --> 00:02:25.340 signed me up for like this cord registry thing. 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:29.580 Oh, you should not need that. Do you know what 00:02:29.580 --> 00:02:36.199 that is? No. Oh, that is your umbilical cord. 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:42.479 Jack is obsessed with umbilical cords. But beside 00:02:42.479 --> 00:02:47.300 that point, they will take blood from your umbilical 00:02:47.300 --> 00:02:50.879 cord because it is chock full of stem cells. 00:02:51.139 --> 00:02:55.020 And they'll store it for you because if you or 00:02:55.020 --> 00:02:58.060 anyone in your family gets these certain types 00:02:58.060 --> 00:03:01.300 of illnesses, the cord blood is really supposed 00:03:01.300 --> 00:03:05.889 to help. Oh. Weird, kind of. I don't think it's 00:03:05.889 --> 00:03:11.069 weird. But yeah, it's just kind of a silly thing. 00:03:11.129 --> 00:03:13.789 I don't know. I guess I didn't know what it was, 00:03:13.789 --> 00:03:16.389 but I don't hate the idea of it. I mean, except 00:03:16.389 --> 00:03:21.129 it's like. thousands of dollars but anyway yeah 00:03:21.129 --> 00:03:23.590 I don't know it kind of gives the same vibe as 00:03:23.590 --> 00:03:27.129 people who like save their placenta I do believe 00:03:27.129 --> 00:03:29.689 that there are health benefits from it don't 00:03:29.689 --> 00:03:32.569 get me wrong it just maybe I'm immature it just 00:03:32.569 --> 00:03:37.830 gives me the heebie -jeebies I so for some reason 00:03:37.830 --> 00:03:42.069 the cord blood feels different to me than um 00:03:42.069 --> 00:03:45.689 the placenta situation I don't know why it shouldn't 00:03:45.689 --> 00:03:50.419 because it's fundamentally the same Yeah, I don't 00:03:50.419 --> 00:03:52.719 know. But I don't know. I don't know. I support 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:54.539 people who do it. I'm sure it's really helpful, 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:56.800 especially with some like illnesses and stuff 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:59.800 like that. I'm also like not very educated in 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:02.939 it, obviously. I'm not at all educated in it, 00:04:03.039 --> 00:04:11.259 I would argue. So there we are. So. Let's get 00:04:11.259 --> 00:04:15.879 into it. I have two Elon Musk. One tangentially 00:04:15.879 --> 00:04:17.920 related to Elon Musk and one directly related 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:19.480 to Elon Musk. Which one do you want to start 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:26.600 with? I really love talking about Republicans 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:29.600 who argue with robots. Gorgeous. Let's go into 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:33.319 that one first. So MAGA is out here literally 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:39.160 arguing with Grok, which is the... AI on Twitter. 00:04:39.339 --> 00:04:44.449 Right. X if you're a bootlicker. Either way, 00:04:44.470 --> 00:04:47.350 if you like it, I love it. But there is an entire 00:04:47.350 --> 00:04:55.990 TikTok dedicated to Grok versus MAGA. So I guess 00:04:55.990 --> 00:04:58.149 I don't know what these people think they're 00:04:58.149 --> 00:05:00.990 doing. They think they're fighting with a news 00:05:00.990 --> 00:05:03.910 source. And maybe this speaks to like what people 00:05:03.910 --> 00:05:06.860 don't. People like relying too much on AA to 00:05:06.860 --> 00:05:08.459 the point where they're like, no, no, no, I can 00:05:08.459 --> 00:05:11.079 argue with it and it can have an argument where 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:17.040 I don't. You've lost me. Yes. You've so lost 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:20.600 me. I also like before we get into this story 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:24.740 in particular, every viral tweet I see, all of 00:05:24.740 --> 00:05:28.259 the replies are Grok, is this real? At Grok, 00:05:28.259 --> 00:05:31.379 what about this? At Grok, Grok, Grok, Grok. Use 00:05:31.379 --> 00:05:36.069 your brain. It reminds me a lot of. the people 00:05:36.069 --> 00:05:38.250 who are like chat GPT what do you think about 00:05:38.250 --> 00:05:40.329 this like the ones that like call it chat and 00:05:40.329 --> 00:05:46.750 like I guess for me I'm just like what who is 00:05:46.750 --> 00:05:51.050 this for but I think it's for me because it goes 00:05:51.050 --> 00:05:57.750 into Grok just saying factual information and 00:05:57.750 --> 00:06:01.860 the far right is Simply not being able to handle 00:06:01.860 --> 00:06:04.699 it or accept it. I've been waiting for this day. 00:06:04.860 --> 00:06:07.879 I'll tell you after we get into it. Well, so 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:12.500 I guess like it. How do you say it? Mamdani. 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.639 Zoran Mamdani. Hang on. I don't want to butcher 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.819 it. I'm sorry. Zoran Mamdani, the mayoral candidate 00:06:21.819 --> 00:06:25.500 for New York. He's the mayor now. No, he won 00:06:25.500 --> 00:06:30.230 the primary. Oh. well that's how that matters 00:06:30.230 --> 00:06:34.170 what do you think about that no he won the um 00:06:34.170 --> 00:06:38.569 the primary which by the way if you want to see 00:06:38.569 --> 00:06:40.589 people losing their ever -loving minds turn on 00:06:40.589 --> 00:06:47.149 fox news right now i have i 9 11 levels of racism 00:06:47.149 --> 00:06:51.430 by the way wow it's well it's not it's not is 00:06:51.430 --> 00:06:55.709 that but it's not just that where it's also he's 00:06:55.709 --> 00:06:58.740 he's a what's the what's the level beyond socialist 00:06:58.740 --> 00:07:03.160 where um a communist yes they're like where he's 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:07.680 a communist and i'm like but if 51 of the city 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:09.420 of new york votes for him what's the problem 00:07:09.420 --> 00:07:12.220 if he wins the election what's the problem because 00:07:12.220 --> 00:07:14.079 it's the same argument for donald trump where 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.759 like people think he's a fascist i think that 00:07:16.759 --> 00:07:19.519 word is a little overused sometimes i think a 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:21.540 lot of people who use that word don't know what 00:07:21.540 --> 00:07:25.319 it means i agree but i'm like if 50 what was 00:07:25.319 --> 00:07:28.470 it 50 Three percent of the United States population 00:07:28.470 --> 00:07:30.709 voted for Donald Trump. What's the problem if 00:07:30.709 --> 00:07:34.529 51 percent of New York City votes for Zoran Magani? 00:07:34.529 --> 00:07:36.329 Isn't that the point of a democracy? Isn't that 00:07:36.329 --> 00:07:38.750 the point of an open election? I don't like. 00:07:39.009 --> 00:07:41.850 Don't we want free and fair elections? You can't 00:07:41.850 --> 00:07:43.509 be mad about an election. You're mad that this 00:07:43.509 --> 00:07:45.730 one wasn't rigged. Is that what you're mad about? 00:07:45.949 --> 00:07:49.189 Right. But he hasn't even won the election. He's 00:07:49.189 --> 00:07:51.949 only won the primary. But it has told us that. 00:07:52.519 --> 00:07:54.959 People are ready for a change because New York 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:56.339 and let me just tell you about New York, because 00:07:56.339 --> 00:07:58.620 I have a little bit of firsthand experience with 00:07:58.620 --> 00:08:03.399 this. You have two real groups of people there. 00:08:03.660 --> 00:08:06.279 It's not about Republicans and Democrats. It 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:09.839 is about public servants who actually want to 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:14.259 show up and do the work that. Do the work of 00:08:14.259 --> 00:08:17.180 government, people like who I believe Alexandria 00:08:17.180 --> 00:08:19.800 Ocasio -Cortez is, people like who I believe 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:23.290 Jasmine Crockett is. And these people want to 00:08:23.290 --> 00:08:28.470 do the work. Then you have some of the most corrupt 00:08:28.470 --> 00:08:33.690 people on God's great earth who use the the budget 00:08:33.690 --> 00:08:36.929 as a slush fund, who use. They want to insider 00:08:36.929 --> 00:08:39.769 trade. They're looking for a check anywhere they 00:08:39.769 --> 00:08:42.389 can find a check. That's where they are. Right. 00:08:42.710 --> 00:08:45.779 And. That is the two groups of people you have 00:08:45.779 --> 00:08:48.399 in New York. When it comes to Zohran Mamdani, 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:53.639 I believe he is representative of what people 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:56.879 are desperate for when it comes to electing someone 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.539 to represent your best interests or lead a city. 00:09:01.419 --> 00:09:05.360 And people are furious about it. And you've got 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:07.919 people, by the way, you've got people. All over 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:09.500 the country who are mad about it, where this 00:09:09.500 --> 00:09:11.419 this really shouldn't be making news outside 00:09:11.419 --> 00:09:14.259 of New York, like New York proper, because it 00:09:14.259 --> 00:09:16.840 doesn't affect anyone outside of New York. No 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:19.480 impact on anyone else. It's like the mayor of 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:22.559 Indianapolis making headlines in Oklahoma. Like, 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.559 it's weird. It doesn't matter. Yeah. But just 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:32.700 know Zoran Mamdani, A, kind of cute. B, I support 00:09:32.700 --> 00:09:35.950 what he is trying to do in New York. That's all 00:09:35.950 --> 00:09:37.169 there is to it. But you have people that are 00:09:37.169 --> 00:09:39.230 saying that are questioning his citizenship because 00:09:39.230 --> 00:09:42.009 he's brown. You're having people do the whole. 00:09:42.009 --> 00:09:44.710 I'm so tired of that. Can we stop doing that? 00:09:45.830 --> 00:09:49.250 Anytime anyone who isn't white steps up, we're 00:09:49.250 --> 00:09:52.250 questioning their citizenship. Also, even people 00:09:52.250 --> 00:09:54.549 that are white. Elon Musk. He's white, right? 00:09:54.830 --> 00:09:57.370 Yeah, he's white. He's South African, which is 00:09:57.370 --> 00:09:59.730 the whole thing. I won't get into the apartheid. 00:09:59.730 --> 00:10:04.409 But yeah, what are we doing? Stop with the citizenship 00:10:04.409 --> 00:10:07.289 thing. America was supposed to be a melting pot 00:10:07.289 --> 00:10:09.129 of people from all over the world who needed 00:10:09.129 --> 00:10:12.309 refuge and wanted to work. That's it. Sure. And 00:10:12.309 --> 00:10:15.309 I would argue that Zoran Mamdadi wants to work. 00:10:15.549 --> 00:10:21.649 It embodies that. Yeah. We'll talk about immigration 00:10:21.649 --> 00:10:24.669 another day. Anyway, go on. I'll go off the deep 00:10:24.669 --> 00:10:29.850 end. But you've got that happening with Grok. 00:10:32.690 --> 00:10:35.570 I'm sorry, you've got you've got all of X blowing 00:10:35.570 --> 00:10:39.049 up about how Zoran Mamdani is not an American 00:10:39.049 --> 00:10:42.529 citizen, how he we should call into question 00:10:42.529 --> 00:10:46.970 his his citizenship. And then Grok says, no, 00:10:47.230 --> 00:10:50.049 you're so silly. This is this is actually what 00:10:50.049 --> 00:10:54.350 took place. And people are fighting with Grok. 00:10:54.409 --> 00:10:56.809 Right. And then they're saying, Grok, you are. 00:10:57.899 --> 00:11:00.320 you're you're part of the liberal mob now or 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:01.740 whatever whatever the fuck they're calling it 00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:05.799 and grok's like thanks for your input like yeah 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:08.320 i part of me wonders because like this is the 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:12.759 thing about elon musk we're like and i feel the 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:14.799 same way about donald trump if these people never 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:17.379 would have gotten involved in politics i would 00:11:17.379 --> 00:11:21.340 love them because you they're They're funny. 00:11:21.440 --> 00:11:23.580 Like they're they're kind of funny. Like and 00:11:23.580 --> 00:11:26.620 I feel like Elon Musk probably program or Elon 00:11:26.620 --> 00:11:29.240 Musk had his people. I don't know that Elon Musk 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.399 did it entirely. I don't care. But he the directive 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:35.480 was to program Grok in such a way that it could 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:37.480 be a little bit snarky. It could come back with 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:41.720 some of this stuff. And I feel like that is a 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:44.000 little wing from Elon Musk being like, thanks 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:47.679 for your input. I think it's funny. I just I 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:52.870 mean. I know that it's objective because if I 00:11:52.870 --> 00:11:56.090 had to guess which way Elon Musk feels about 00:11:56.090 --> 00:11:59.350 this situation, he would want to leave it blurry 00:11:59.350 --> 00:12:04.929 on Zoran's citizenship because he's a Republican 00:12:04.929 --> 00:12:09.049 weirdo. Neither here nor there, but yeah. Donald 00:12:09.049 --> 00:12:10.870 Trump is one of the funniest people in America. 00:12:11.049 --> 00:12:13.330 Yes. I have nothing but hate towards him. Yes. 00:12:13.429 --> 00:12:16.429 He's funny. He's so funny. He should have always 00:12:16.429 --> 00:12:19.429 been on TV and kept himself out of the goddamn 00:12:19.429 --> 00:12:21.610 White House. But I've said this a million times 00:12:21.610 --> 00:12:25.610 about Donald Trump. If he would like if I ran 00:12:25.610 --> 00:12:30.250 in 2014, 15, when I lived in New York, if I would 00:12:30.250 --> 00:12:33.950 have ran into him at a party, I can definitively 00:12:33.950 --> 00:12:36.370 tell you he would have been surrounded by 10 00:12:36.370 --> 00:12:40.779 gays just holding court because he is. hysterical 00:12:40.779 --> 00:12:43.159 like he is he's a little bit hateful he's like 00:12:43.159 --> 00:12:46.740 i mean he's he's super hateful he's a drag queen 00:12:46.740 --> 00:12:51.059 he's a drag queen he does not hold back he knows 00:12:51.059 --> 00:12:53.320 how to get a reaction out of people he's funny 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:55.919 right that being said i don't feel that way about 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:59.179 elon musk i'll say that but i feel like he knows 00:12:59.179 --> 00:13:04.879 how to make a robot be funny i think if you if 00:13:04.879 --> 00:13:06.879 we got into a room with elon musk and he was 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:10.600 like he's a little bit snarky No. No? Okay. I 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:14.259 think he's strange. I don't think... Like, there's 00:13:14.259 --> 00:13:19.080 a difference for me between being witty and, 00:13:19.159 --> 00:13:24.460 like, quick with being strange. That's, like, 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.279 a stark difference to me. That's fair. I think 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.480 he just, like... Is not of this world. I have 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:31.120 said this about Elon Musk. I probably already 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.500 said this on the podcast. We were never supposed 00:13:33.500 --> 00:13:35.139 to know who Elon Musk was. You have said that 00:13:35.139 --> 00:13:37.440 before. And I don't disagree. I feel like I feel 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:39.600 the same way about him as I do about the Rothschilds 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.779 where I feel like they we probably shouldn't 00:13:42.779 --> 00:13:44.899 know what they look like. You're meant to be 00:13:44.899 --> 00:13:47.759 an enigma. You're meant to use your brain and 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:50.580 do your thing and make your money. And I am not 00:13:50.580 --> 00:13:54.200 meant to know who you are. Right. I agree. And 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:58.730 it's because of this. It's because. It's polarizing. 00:14:00.070 --> 00:14:03.710 It is. It is. But yeah, anyway. Anyway. I can't 00:14:03.710 --> 00:14:05.830 believe people are arguing with AI. I knew this 00:14:05.830 --> 00:14:08.090 day would come for Republicans, though, because 00:14:08.090 --> 00:14:12.190 if you ask ChantGPT, do vaccines cause autism? 00:14:12.570 --> 00:14:16.570 It will say no. There is no hard evidence for 00:14:16.570 --> 00:14:18.990 it. And the guy who came up with that idea was 00:14:18.990 --> 00:14:22.210 barred from practicing medicine and had to issue 00:14:22.210 --> 00:14:27.980 an apology. So I knew. I knew once anti -vaxxers 00:14:27.980 --> 00:14:30.539 and Republicans started asking these kinds of 00:14:30.539 --> 00:14:32.960 questions, they weren't going to like the answers. 00:14:33.100 --> 00:14:37.320 Well, and that's that's the thing is where I. 00:14:38.820 --> 00:14:40.919 This is where I struggle, because, you know, 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:45.320 so much of my family is Republican and I, I, 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.480 I have to toe the line with a lot of people in 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:52.759 my family between. Trying to get them on the 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:55.340 same page of what is factual information versus 00:14:55.340 --> 00:14:57.000 what they just don't want to hear and what they're 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:01.279 not willing to accept. Yeah. And it's it's at 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.759 a certain point, it's like, OK, this is objectively 00:15:03.759 --> 00:15:08.840 factual information. Like whether it comes to 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:11.000 34 counts of felonies, whether it comes to vaccines 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:13.940 not causing autism, whether it comes to COVID 00:15:13.940 --> 00:15:16.710 was not. a deep state conspiracy, whether it 00:15:16.710 --> 00:15:19.929 comes to 5G was not a thing that's put out into 00:15:19.929 --> 00:15:23.450 the world for any nefarious reason. I don't I 00:15:23.450 --> 00:15:26.610 don't care any number of these things. We didn't 00:15:26.610 --> 00:15:28.970 have that argument about 4G, by the way. Anyway, 00:15:29.049 --> 00:15:31.210 we did. We didn't have that argument about anything. 00:15:31.269 --> 00:15:33.029 And I don't know where the argument comes from. 00:15:33.110 --> 00:15:34.809 And that's what stresses me out is like, OK, 00:15:34.870 --> 00:15:37.909 we're coming to an age of information where you 00:15:37.909 --> 00:15:40.470 have the entire world, like more than we have 00:15:40.470 --> 00:15:43.509 ever had in our lives. We have the entire world 00:15:43.509 --> 00:15:46.779 available on. our phones ever in history and 00:15:46.779 --> 00:15:48.940 i do think this is one of the repercussions of 00:15:48.940 --> 00:15:52.879 that of humans having such access to information 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:56.240 you don't have to be able to siphon through and 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:59.000 read an encyclopedia anymore you can just ask 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:01.799 a robot right but on the other side of that so 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:05.919 like i i think part of the problem is like up 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.840 until now or up until really three years ago 00:16:08.840 --> 00:16:12.980 you were able to kind of find weird things on 00:16:12.980 --> 00:16:15.240 the internet and like you go down a rabbit rabbit 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:17.539 rabbit hole or like whatever the case may be 00:16:17.539 --> 00:16:19.960 i love watching conspiracy theory youtube videos 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.679 right i love that stuff but now you have someone 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:27.120 who sound or something that sounds like a person 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:30.120 that is saying no that's not true and it's not 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:32.519 objectively agreeing empirically with everything 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:36.440 that you're saying and you can't handle that 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:40.250 so you fight with a fucking robot Yeah, like 00:16:40.250 --> 00:16:44.730 we have lost the entire plot. I think people 00:16:44.730 --> 00:16:46.870 have no media literacy. We've talked about this 00:16:46.870 --> 00:16:49.690 already, but people have no media literacy. They 00:16:49.690 --> 00:16:52.529 have no skepticism over anything. And so now 00:16:52.529 --> 00:16:55.090 if you can just put doctor at the front of your 00:16:55.090 --> 00:16:57.929 name on Twitter and spout whatever nonsense you 00:16:57.929 --> 00:17:02.059 want and people will just believe you. People 00:17:02.059 --> 00:17:05.680 will just believe whatever schizophrenic conspiracy 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:08.660 you've come up with. They will just trust that 00:17:08.660 --> 00:17:11.900 that is real. But if you're a large language 00:17:11.900 --> 00:17:16.519 model that has access to the entire world of 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:20.130 actually true information, it can say that. But 00:17:20.130 --> 00:17:21.809 you're not willing to believe that and you're 00:17:21.809 --> 00:17:24.029 willing to say, well, you were created by liberals, 00:17:24.049 --> 00:17:25.569 so you're not factually correct. Well, that's 00:17:25.569 --> 00:17:27.569 the problem, right? They believe all of these 00:17:27.569 --> 00:17:29.910 people who claim to be doctors and claim to be 00:17:29.910 --> 00:17:33.230 PhDs and claim to know this and that to the point 00:17:33.230 --> 00:17:37.170 where they are not willing to listen to an objective. 00:17:39.109 --> 00:17:42.589 Who has no reason to lie to you. No reason to 00:17:42.589 --> 00:17:44.849 hurt your feelings, by the way. They are programmed 00:17:44.849 --> 00:17:47.109 to keep you talking to them and keep you asking 00:17:47.109 --> 00:17:49.869 questions to them because they want to learn. 00:17:51.109 --> 00:17:57.410 But at the same time. I think that the step further 00:17:57.410 --> 00:18:01.710 that stresses me out here is. If you don't like 00:18:01.710 --> 00:18:05.109 it, it's it's liberal. If you don't like it, 00:18:05.109 --> 00:18:07.410 it's. A conspiracy theory. If you don't like 00:18:07.410 --> 00:18:08.910 it, it's the deep state. If you don't like it, 00:18:08.930 --> 00:18:11.130 it's woke. Woke is the one that really, like, 00:18:11.150 --> 00:18:15.630 I fucking hate that word. I'm sorry. It's silly. 00:18:16.170 --> 00:18:19.269 It's silly for me. Sorry, I'll let you finish. 00:18:19.349 --> 00:18:20.910 No, no, no, you're fine. Jack shook his head 00:18:20.910 --> 00:18:23.589 when I said fuck, so. It's silly to me because 00:18:23.589 --> 00:18:29.329 what you're saying, it's woke, it's woke, it's. 00:18:29.849 --> 00:18:33.890 Okay, aren't you trying to be woke? You're saying 00:18:33.890 --> 00:18:39.490 you're deviating from the widely accepted truth 00:18:39.490 --> 00:18:43.529 of things. You're the one deviating from what 00:18:43.529 --> 00:18:48.089 we acknowledge in science, etc. Mostly science 00:18:48.089 --> 00:18:53.029 is where I have the issue. You are the one who 00:18:53.029 --> 00:18:57.869 is being woke, no? That's what I don't understand. 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:01.759 If anything, these conspirators are the ones 00:19:01.759 --> 00:19:05.019 trying to be woke with the classic definition 00:19:05.019 --> 00:19:08.220 of that word. I guess maybe I don't understand 00:19:08.220 --> 00:19:10.200 what woke is because I thought woke was just 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:13.519 like what people screamed when something was 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:15.519 not straight and white. Like that's that's just 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:19.359 what I thought it was. So my impression was woke 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:23.960 is people who are not just believing what is 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:28.470 put in front of them, but rather believing. the 00:19:28.470 --> 00:19:30.750 real truth of things like you're challenging 00:19:30.750 --> 00:19:34.829 the status quo you've awoken you are oh okay 00:19:34.829 --> 00:19:39.789 so what's wrong with that right but also isn't 00:19:39.789 --> 00:19:42.609 that what you're doing like if your conspiracies 00:19:42.609 --> 00:19:46.250 are really what you believe aren't you the one 00:19:46.250 --> 00:19:49.170 being woke in that sense of the word like i don't 00:19:49.170 --> 00:19:51.869 understand but and this is this is what it all 00:19:51.869 --> 00:19:55.240 comes back to is It's not a rational conversation. 00:19:55.380 --> 00:19:57.160 You and I are rational. I like to believe we're 00:19:57.160 --> 00:20:01.079 rational people. Yeah. You and I can have a conversation 00:20:01.079 --> 00:20:03.180 and like walk away from it and be like, OK, well, 00:20:03.259 --> 00:20:05.839 I was crazy. Or we can say, OK, I can agree with 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:08.640 someone. And we can we can objectively look at 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:11.200 something and make an assessment about the merits 00:20:11.200 --> 00:20:14.319 of an argument. Right. Right. And I genuinely 00:20:14.319 --> 00:20:17.180 try to see other people's sides of things every 00:20:17.180 --> 00:20:21.019 time. I don't believe that grace is reciprocated, 00:20:21.059 --> 00:20:24.640 though. No, it's not. And then this is where 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:26.619 I come back to, though, that stresses me out 00:20:26.619 --> 00:20:30.519 is. And I think this is like I guess it doesn't 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:32.839 stress me out. This is where I come back to where 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:34.519 I feel like I'm beating my head into a wall. 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:40.599 You are. I say you really I am trying to make 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:43.460 sense of a completely irrational situation. I 00:20:43.460 --> 00:20:45.799 am trying to look at it as a rational person 00:20:45.799 --> 00:20:47.839 where I'm like, you're fighting with a robot. 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:53.890 You are fighting with a robot. Yeah, I... Come 00:20:53.890 --> 00:20:56.890 on, you've lost the plot, babe. Right, like, 00:20:56.930 --> 00:20:59.109 turn it off. You know what it reminds me of? 00:20:59.170 --> 00:21:01.970 That tweet Tyler, the creator, put out years 00:21:01.970 --> 00:21:04.710 and years, 10 years ago plus now, that's like, 00:21:04.849 --> 00:21:07.569 how is cyberbullying a real thing? Just log off, 00:21:07.690 --> 00:21:11.569 bro. Close your eyes. Go fucking touch grass. 00:21:11.630 --> 00:21:15.170 Yeah, a lot of them need to touch grass. A lot. 00:21:17.509 --> 00:21:24.650 Fox News watchers and... subscribers, just go 00:21:24.650 --> 00:21:26.529 touch some grass. If you don't feel any differently, 00:21:26.730 --> 00:21:31.190 I'm sorry. Go touch some grass. Speaking of touching, 00:21:31.289 --> 00:21:32.650 this isn't, this is not speaking of touching 00:21:32.650 --> 00:21:35.970 grass. Did you hear what Jack just said? No, 00:21:35.990 --> 00:21:38.670 I was, I said what I said about touching grass 00:21:38.670 --> 00:21:42.069 and he goes, did somebody just say a bad word? 00:21:43.450 --> 00:21:47.250 And I said, Jack, you are, you're right. I should 00:21:47.250 --> 00:21:48.750 be better about that. You are a hundred percent 00:21:48.750 --> 00:21:56.549 right. Thank you for letting me know. OK. All 00:21:56.549 --> 00:21:59.529 right. Moving on to Elon Musk again being silly. 00:21:59.710 --> 00:22:06.609 Boy, oh boy. Elon Musk. He's so silly. So here's. 00:22:07.710 --> 00:22:14.990 Here's the thing. If this shakes out to be what 00:22:14.990 --> 00:22:18.289 I think he envisions it being, I will applaud 00:22:18.289 --> 00:22:21.759 him. I'll go on record now and say that if he 00:22:21.759 --> 00:22:25.819 truly wants to cut corruption from the government, 00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:30.420 if he truly wants to put America first in government, 00:22:30.579 --> 00:22:35.220 if he truly wants to fight for people. I will 00:22:35.220 --> 00:22:38.440 applaud him. I'll say that right now on best 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:46.019 to approve. I don't think so. Do do I do I really 00:22:46.019 --> 00:22:51.809 believe that? But the new political party called 00:22:51.809 --> 00:22:55.990 the America Party is going to shake out to be 00:22:55.990 --> 00:22:59.529 anything other than a publicity stunt. I don't 00:22:59.529 --> 00:23:01.569 think so. I hope I'm wrong. I don't think so. 00:23:02.230 --> 00:23:05.049 Here's what I'm hoping it does. Here's my best 00:23:05.049 --> 00:23:10.009 case scenario. In 2028, it'll split the vote 00:23:10.009 --> 00:23:12.789 so Republicans don't get the numbers that they 00:23:12.789 --> 00:23:16.569 did in 2024. And what an election the Lord will 00:23:16.569 --> 00:23:23.250 have made. Thank God. And part of me also wonders, 00:23:23.309 --> 00:23:26.349 is this Elon just coming back and being like, 00:23:26.450 --> 00:23:29.490 I just want to make him mad. I genuinely think 00:23:29.490 --> 00:23:32.569 a lot of it is emotional. I think a lot of this 00:23:32.569 --> 00:23:36.150 is emotional. Because he spent $300 million on 00:23:36.150 --> 00:23:39.049 Donald Trump last year. Right. And now he's like 00:23:39.049 --> 00:23:41.309 having a falling out. And he's like, well, I'll 00:23:41.309 --> 00:23:44.970 make my own political party. And I guess I've 00:23:44.970 --> 00:23:48.279 never really thought about what. a political 00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:51.319 party actually is like in my mind I was like 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:53.740 oh it's really just a set of ideologies which 00:23:53.740 --> 00:23:57.299 is why when he said I'm making the America party 00:23:57.299 --> 00:24:02.380 I was like isn't that just kind of what everyone 00:24:02.380 --> 00:24:06.779 like when he was saying it I was like cool okay 00:24:06.779 --> 00:24:09.079 whatever and now I'm like oh no it's it's all 00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:13.230 like it's a money grab it's a it's it's a business 00:24:13.230 --> 00:24:16.289 it's all like it and it's frustrating because 00:24:16.289 --> 00:24:18.130 I don't feel like it should be that way but here 00:24:18.130 --> 00:24:20.970 we are no in fact our founding fathers warned 00:24:20.970 --> 00:24:23.609 us against it being this way but here we are 00:24:23.609 --> 00:24:32.430 doing it to the fullest but so yeah um but I 00:24:32.430 --> 00:24:36.549 will let me I'll tell you this right now if Elon 00:24:36.549 --> 00:24:41.349 Musk succeeds in getting the America party on 00:24:42.009 --> 00:24:46.049 Any election ticket. And that party actually 00:24:46.049 --> 00:24:50.529 believes in what he says they believe in, which 00:24:50.529 --> 00:24:55.509 I do. What he has said is not a liberal or conservative 00:24:55.509 --> 00:24:59.750 idea. It's just like we take care of this country. 00:24:59.869 --> 00:25:02.869 It does kind of remind me of the Donald Trump 00:25:02.869 --> 00:25:07.740 drain the swamp thing. Oh, which ended up being 00:25:07.740 --> 00:25:11.059 a whole Republican thing. In fact, infecting 00:25:11.059 --> 00:25:13.960 the swamp, I would argue. It's the swamp that 00:25:13.960 --> 00:25:20.859 RFK swam in. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. 00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:24.579 I do hope it's on tickets. If anything, it'll 00:25:24.579 --> 00:25:29.829 split the vote. Donald Trump did say I'm saddened 00:25:29.829 --> 00:25:32.130 to watch Elon Musk go completely off the rails 00:25:32.130 --> 00:25:34.569 and essentially becoming a train wreck over the 00:25:34.569 --> 00:25:38.410 last five weeks. This is this is the thing about 00:25:38.410 --> 00:25:42.650 Donald Trump is that he is an ex -boyfriend that 00:25:42.650 --> 00:25:44.990 says, oh, I'm so glad to be done with her. She's 00:25:44.990 --> 00:25:47.289 crazy. That's who that's who Donald Trump is. 00:25:47.390 --> 00:25:51.630 Oh, yeah. He's in. I'm sorry you feel that way, 00:25:51.630 --> 00:25:57.180 babe. Oh, yeah. Mm hmm. But. There's that. Let 00:25:57.180 --> 00:26:00.160 us know if you're going to join the America Party. 00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:03.980 Yeah, I honestly want to know your opinion. I'm 00:26:03.980 --> 00:26:05.640 not going to, like, come at you. I just want 00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:08.140 to know, like, where you're coming from. Do you 00:26:08.140 --> 00:26:09.700 know who I think is perfect for this, though, 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:14.460 is my dad. Yeah. People who are genuinely skeptical 00:26:14.460 --> 00:26:17.980 of Donald Trump, but, like. But love America. 00:26:18.180 --> 00:26:20.259 Let me just tell you, listener. Like, one day 00:26:20.259 --> 00:26:22.220 we'll, I don't know if we'll ever get my dad 00:26:22.220 --> 00:26:25.670 on the pod, but we will. I'll tell I'll tell 00:26:25.670 --> 00:26:29.569 you guys about my dad. He is someone that loves, 00:26:29.589 --> 00:26:34.410 loves, loves, loves America. And he loves. He 00:26:34.410 --> 00:26:38.130 loves his fellow man like he is, I think what 00:26:38.130 --> 00:26:41.289 when people envision the American dream, he's 00:26:41.289 --> 00:26:43.509 the kind of person that really lives out that 00:26:43.509 --> 00:26:48.690 idea, I think. And Elon Musk's party is perfect 00:26:48.690 --> 00:26:52.789 for someone like my dad. Yeah. So I do hope that 00:26:52.789 --> 00:26:55.410 like he is serious about what he's trying to 00:26:55.410 --> 00:26:59.049 do. Yeah. I do think like all those videos of 00:26:59.049 --> 00:27:00.910 people who are like, I voted for Donald Trump 00:27:00.910 --> 00:27:03.529 and I regret it. I think it's good for them. 00:27:04.109 --> 00:27:06.849 Yeah. But I think it's good for them. I hope 00:27:06.849 --> 00:27:09.269 they have a party that they can align with. You 00:27:09.269 --> 00:27:14.750 know, I agree. Moving on. Moving on. Have you 00:27:14.750 --> 00:27:19.630 seen this TikTok going around of this guy who. 00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:24.619 Was talking about how as we are getting into 00:27:24.619 --> 00:27:27.079 our 20s or 30s and like maybe we don't want to 00:27:27.079 --> 00:27:31.119 go out for drinks anymore. Maybe we need to normalize 00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:34.579 going out for fries and a Diet Coke. I love that. 00:27:34.660 --> 00:27:37.380 Yes, I have seen it. I love that so much. Like 00:27:37.380 --> 00:27:41.539 it's the most wholesome. I love it. I love it. 00:27:41.539 --> 00:27:45.460 It really, really makes me happy. Yeah, there's 00:27:45.460 --> 00:27:47.299 nothing in this life that I love more than a 00:27:47.299 --> 00:27:49.359 dirty Diet Coke with a Caesar salad and some 00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:51.960 fries. What? So that's your version of fries 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:56.220 and Diet Coke? Yeah. I think mine is nachos and 00:27:56.220 --> 00:27:58.940 a Diet Dr. Pepper. Because, you know, I love 00:27:58.940 --> 00:28:01.619 nothing more than a good plate of nachos. I love 00:28:01.619 --> 00:28:07.359 nachos, too. Wow, that sounds really good. Okay. 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:10.259 Okay. Love that. I think you should take all 00:28:10.259 --> 00:28:12.700 of your friends out for Diet Coke and fries. 00:28:12.940 --> 00:28:14.980 And also I like that because there's like no 00:28:14.980 --> 00:28:16.759 pressure. It's like you don't have to spend a 00:28:16.759 --> 00:28:20.339 whole night drinking Diet Coke and eating French 00:28:20.339 --> 00:28:23.920 fries. Just go gossip for a minute. Yeah. An 00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:29.380 hour. Two hours. On to complaining. Are we complaining? 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:31.500 I'm going to let you go first because you had 00:28:31.500 --> 00:28:35.900 one. It's just so fucking hot outside. I'm so 00:28:35.900 --> 00:28:39.440 tired of it being hot. I haven't gotten any cardio 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:43.400 in all summer because as soon as Jack's school 00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:46.900 was up, it was 90 degrees. And so we can't go 00:28:46.900 --> 00:28:49.400 for walks. I can't go to the gym because I'm 00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.319 not going to neglect my child. They don't have 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:56.920 a daycare there. It's just too hot. We went for 00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:59.960 a walk in between episodes and both Jack and 00:28:59.960 --> 00:29:02.799 Travis were eating and it felt like I was on 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:06.839 the surface of hell. And that just our mental 00:29:06.839 --> 00:29:10.640 health walk, if anything, diminished my mental 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.900 health. Turned out to be a mental illness walk 00:29:12.900 --> 00:29:16.119 for Emma. Yeah. Let me let me tell you how that 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:20.920 in my view, how this walk went. We walked out 00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:24.059 onto the sidewalk in front of Emma's house. We 00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:27.599 had been walking for 13 seconds. Oh, we were 00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:30.259 still in front of my house. We had not passed 00:29:30.259 --> 00:29:33.660 my house. To be fair, it was hotter than the 00:29:33.660 --> 00:29:37.420 surface of the sun. I was eating a one of those 00:29:37.420 --> 00:29:40.740 like little dove chocolate things. And Jack was 00:29:40.740 --> 00:29:44.160 eating a chicken nugget. And Emma goes, it's 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:51.529 hot and everyone's chewing. I'm too pregnant 00:29:51.529 --> 00:29:55.349 to be dealing with any type of bullshit. And 00:29:55.349 --> 00:30:01.789 it might have been the most. For context, listener, 00:30:01.950 --> 00:30:04.829 Jack was so good for the first episode we recorded. 00:30:04.950 --> 00:30:06.950 So I said, let's go and get some of our energy 00:30:06.950 --> 00:30:09.750 out. I pulled a muscle in my lower back. So I 00:30:09.750 --> 00:30:11.390 was like, let me just make sure that's not locking 00:30:11.390 --> 00:30:13.490 up. Let's let Jack get some of his energy out. 00:30:13.750 --> 00:30:17.009 And Emma said, it's hot and everyone's chewing. 00:30:17.980 --> 00:30:21.539 I just sometimes you got to let it out or it'll 00:30:21.539 --> 00:30:24.279 fester. You were a trooper through it. You went 00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:28.039 for a little walk. We did. OK, and I'm happy 00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:32.420 to go for a walk. I just had a moment. It was 00:30:32.420 --> 00:30:34.519 a good walk. It was a good hot girl walk. I'm 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.839 hot all the time, too, which I know we'll have 00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:41.460 a pregnancy update in this video, but I am so 00:30:41.460 --> 00:30:44.099 hot all the time. And I talked to my OB about 00:30:44.099 --> 00:30:47.240 it and she was like, you're literally an oven. 00:30:47.849 --> 00:30:52.549 You are baking this kid. So like, yeah, you're 00:30:52.549 --> 00:30:56.710 going to feel hot. And I was like, well, good 00:30:56.710 --> 00:30:59.329 thing it's 90 degrees outside. Guess I'll just 00:30:59.329 --> 00:31:03.190 die. And the AC is out of my car, by the way. 00:31:03.230 --> 00:31:05.529 I haven't had my car in like a week and a half 00:31:05.529 --> 00:31:08.130 because it's forever until a Honda dealership 00:31:08.130 --> 00:31:13.049 can get me in. That's hard. So that's my complaint. 00:31:13.410 --> 00:31:18.400 I'm fucking hot. yeah I'm gonna complain about 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:24.500 LinkedIn oh good complaint so I had to create 00:31:24.500 --> 00:31:26.599 so I was on LinkedIn forever and ever and ever 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.180 and then I got off because I was like I I hate 00:31:29.180 --> 00:31:32.660 everything about the culture of LinkedIn and 00:31:32.660 --> 00:31:35.019 then for my master's program and one of my classes 00:31:35.019 --> 00:31:38.500 I was forced to get back onto LinkedIn because 00:31:38.500 --> 00:31:40.400 like we had to do some kind of case study or 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.299 some shit I don't know why people have such a 00:31:42.299 --> 00:31:45.019 boner for LinkedIn They, like, want to force 00:31:45.019 --> 00:31:46.500 you to be on it. I don't. That's not the first 00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:48.940 time I've heard, like, oh, I have to be on LinkedIn 00:31:48.940 --> 00:31:52.099 for this or that. Ugh. Well, I mean, at our old 00:31:52.099 --> 00:31:56.289 job. the one the first circle of hell I was forced 00:31:56.289 --> 00:31:58.869 to be on it there too by the social media team 00:31:58.869 --> 00:32:01.809 yeah I'm sure you were I don't understand it's 00:32:01.809 --> 00:32:04.869 social media like but and they like gave me things 00:32:04.869 --> 00:32:06.910 to post for because I was part of that stupid 00:32:06.910 --> 00:32:09.769 pilot program like it was the worst experience 00:32:09.769 --> 00:32:11.609 of my life I had to go to classes like and there 00:32:11.609 --> 00:32:13.849 was compliance involved but then they were like 00:32:13.849 --> 00:32:16.109 you have no idea how impactful this is going 00:32:16.109 --> 00:32:20.130 to be gun to my head I don't I cannot tell you 00:32:20.130 --> 00:32:21.869 anything that came out of it. I gave the company 00:32:21.869 --> 00:32:24.549 complete control of my LinkedIn and I said, you 00:32:24.549 --> 00:32:25.849 do whatever you want with it. I want nothing 00:32:25.849 --> 00:32:28.589 to do with it. I hated it. I hate LinkedIn in 00:32:28.589 --> 00:32:32.650 general, but. But now people are posting video 00:32:32.650 --> 00:32:35.349 content on this godforsaken platform and they're 00:32:35.349 --> 00:32:38.130 making it out to be that they're LinkedIn influencers. 00:32:38.569 --> 00:32:43.559 And I'm just like, what? What? Why? What? Like, 00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.460 it's all about the hustle and the grind and the 00:32:46.460 --> 00:32:48.980 like, oh, like you to put in this many hours. 00:32:49.259 --> 00:32:52.900 Shut up. Shut up. I've hated that on LinkedIn 00:32:52.900 --> 00:32:57.400 forever and ever and ever for years. The grind 00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.819 set of it all. I hate it. I can't believe people 00:33:00.819 --> 00:33:03.279 are trying to be LinkedIn influencers. That's 00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:05.680 crazy. But then I'll take it one step further. 00:33:05.859 --> 00:33:08.200 And then they try to get you to join LinkedIn 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:13.269 premium. I'd rather get my toenails pulled out. 00:33:13.869 --> 00:33:21.509 It is. It is. One of these one of these byproducts 00:33:21.509 --> 00:33:23.690 of late stage capitalism where they want you 00:33:23.690 --> 00:33:29.670 to pay for. The privilege of looking for a goddamn 00:33:29.670 --> 00:33:32.890 job like you were trying to extract money for 00:33:32.890 --> 00:33:35.839 people that are ostensibly looking for. jobs 00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.980 to get a better life and like if it's if it's 00:33:38.980 --> 00:33:40.579 the other side of it if you're on linkedin premium 00:33:40.579 --> 00:33:44.960 for for if you're hiring someone and you want 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:47.319 to be highlighted in like the job profiles engagement 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:51.240 you need the engagement to like whatever i want 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:56.380 that for you if i get one more email from linkedin 00:33:56.380 --> 00:33:58.220 saying you should sign up for linkedin premium 00:33:58.220 --> 00:34:01.210 you get a free 90 day trial or whatever. No, 00:34:01.410 --> 00:34:04.410 I'm not. I'm not interested in that. And you, 00:34:04.509 --> 00:34:06.910 Mr. And Mrs. LinkedIn can shove that right up 00:34:06.910 --> 00:34:10.269 your ass. Yeah, I think LinkedIn has been trying 00:34:10.269 --> 00:34:13.849 to be Facebook for some time now. And I just 00:34:13.849 --> 00:34:17.090 don't understand it. I don't understand it. I 00:34:17.090 --> 00:34:19.030 don't think people should get paid for engagement 00:34:19.030 --> 00:34:21.329 on LinkedIn. I don't think people should be running 00:34:21.329 --> 00:34:24.730 ads for other companies on LinkedIn. I don't 00:34:24.730 --> 00:34:27.010 understand it at all. It's insane. I think the 00:34:27.010 --> 00:34:29.920 only reason you should ever need to. post a video 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.139 on linkedin is if you are selling something for 00:34:33.139 --> 00:34:37.980 your job i think putting a video on linkedin 00:34:37.980 --> 00:34:41.239 is the most insane thing like i want you to think 00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:45.039 back to what linkedin started as it was a A social 00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:48.539 media thing for people looking for a job. And 00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:50.500 then I think it was Microsoft that bought them 00:34:50.500 --> 00:34:53.840 out. And they were like, how can we make this 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.460 into a growth strategy? And it should have never 00:34:56.460 --> 00:34:59.679 been that. No, LinkedIn didn't need to grow. 00:34:59.739 --> 00:35:03.340 It grows by nature of people needing jobs. Yes. 00:35:04.139 --> 00:35:07.059 Like never in my life have I ever seen anything 00:35:07.059 --> 00:35:13.980 like it. Hate LinkedIn. Always have. Hate it. 00:35:14.589 --> 00:35:16.449 All right. Are you going to jump into reality 00:35:16.449 --> 00:35:22.349 roundup? Yes, I would love to. Can we talk about 00:35:22.349 --> 00:35:26.710 Love Island for a second? I would love to. I'm 00:35:26.710 --> 00:35:28.210 going to turn my mic off because, you know, I 00:35:28.210 --> 00:35:31.489 have nothing valuable to add to this. Yeah. OK, 00:35:31.690 --> 00:35:33.710 so last time I was talking about how people have 00:35:33.710 --> 00:35:35.570 lost the plot of Love Island and like they don't 00:35:35.570 --> 00:35:37.349 understand what it's supposed to be about and 00:35:37.349 --> 00:35:42.670 all of that. It's only gotten worse. It's only 00:35:42.670 --> 00:35:44.849 gotten worse. Jesus, I've seen a lot on TikTok 00:35:44.849 --> 00:35:48.110 about this. But also, that's what I want to talk 00:35:48.110 --> 00:35:54.650 about. They did zero vetting this year over the 00:35:54.650 --> 00:35:57.989 cast. They didn't even go through this cast's 00:35:57.989 --> 00:36:02.730 social media archives. They didn't do any of 00:36:02.730 --> 00:36:04.730 the due diligence they needed to do. Oh no, this 00:36:04.730 --> 00:36:05.889 is going to be what I think it's going to be. 00:36:06.329 --> 00:36:08.969 We've had two racists on there that have been 00:36:08.969 --> 00:36:14.429 booted off. No. Two. No. One of them was on a 00:36:14.429 --> 00:36:18.909 podcast months before going on Love Island saying, 00:36:19.130 --> 00:36:24.210 he's my N -word. He's my N -word. She is Latina. 00:36:24.650 --> 00:36:28.710 Okay. Oh. And then we have this other girl who 00:36:28.710 --> 00:36:34.440 said the reason she gets Botox. are so her eyes 00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:44.619 don't look so Asian slur. They both have had 00:36:44.619 --> 00:36:48.579 to, like, once those clips have come to light, 00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:53.400 right, the producers have had to go there, like, 00:36:53.460 --> 00:36:55.400 obviously off camera, they're not willing to 00:36:55.400 --> 00:37:01.589 show any of this, and, like, drag them off. Like 00:37:01.589 --> 00:37:03.130 basically in the middle of the night. The first 00:37:03.130 --> 00:37:04.489 one was literally in the middle of the night. 00:37:04.550 --> 00:37:08.929 The second one was like in one morning. But I'm 00:37:08.929 --> 00:37:13.449 like, you people have done this to yourself. 00:37:13.989 --> 00:37:17.170 I don't know how you're not vetting these people, 00:37:17.230 --> 00:37:19.210 how you're not like coming up with this shit. 00:37:20.469 --> 00:37:23.630 I feel like you should have to do such a deep 00:37:23.630 --> 00:37:26.670 dive before you put someone on any type of reality 00:37:26.670 --> 00:37:31.900 show. And they clearly didn't do. So I agree. 00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:35.679 And I'm this. I think you should have to vet 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:37.440 someone before you put them on reality TV, I 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.400 think. But on the other side of that, I think 00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.840 if you put someone on reality TV and something 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:46.079 like this comes to light, you get what you get. 00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:50.360 Period. End of story. Like you, if you weren't 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.889 willing to do the work, which from. From what 00:37:53.889 --> 00:37:57.690 I've gathered and the maybe all total 25 minutes 00:37:57.690 --> 00:37:59.690 of Love Island that I have watched, it does not 00:37:59.690 --> 00:38:02.170 seem like they are willing to do the work. No, 00:38:02.269 --> 00:38:04.670 they are not willing to work on their audio. 00:38:04.829 --> 00:38:07.389 They're not willing to work on their cast, nor 00:38:07.389 --> 00:38:11.210 the nonsensical things that they do on the show 00:38:11.210 --> 00:38:14.389 that have no like repercussions or ever come 00:38:14.389 --> 00:38:19.360 up later. Right. I feel like you just have to 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.599 accept that, like, if you're not willing to put 00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.320 in the work of a production, this is the quality 00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.320 of the outcome that you get. That being said, 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.039 on the other side of this, I feel conflicted 00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:35.340 in some ways about. Pulling them off the show 00:38:35.340 --> 00:38:39.130 and not letting them answer for their. Transgressions. 00:38:39.130 --> 00:38:40.869 OK, so the one that was like six months ago in 00:38:40.869 --> 00:38:43.309 a podcast, maybe that was a little like a little 00:38:43.309 --> 00:38:45.750 too recent for them to say like I fucked up and 00:38:45.750 --> 00:38:47.670 like, my God, I'm so embarrassed about saying 00:38:47.670 --> 00:38:50.250 that. I think the other one was like early last 00:38:50.250 --> 00:38:53.289 year or like maybe a couple of years ago. She 00:38:53.289 --> 00:38:55.929 was an adult when she said it. So I'm talking 00:38:55.929 --> 00:38:58.690 about someone like if if we're talking like on 00:38:58.690 --> 00:39:01.869 RuPaul's Drag Race in Australia, they had one 00:39:01.869 --> 00:39:05.590 of the queens, I guess, performed in blackface. 00:39:05.710 --> 00:39:12.150 And that's. horrific. But what I do appreciate 00:39:12.150 --> 00:39:15.230 about that moment is that RuPaul said, what do 00:39:15.230 --> 00:39:16.989 you have to say about this? We just found out 00:39:16.989 --> 00:39:20.789 about this. What do you have to say? Yeah. I 00:39:20.789 --> 00:39:25.150 respect the hell out of that because now. The 00:39:25.150 --> 00:39:26.909 Love Island producers are cowards. I'll just 00:39:26.909 --> 00:39:30.590 say that. Because like when this girl, the one 00:39:30.590 --> 00:39:33.289 who said the slur against Asian people, they 00:39:33.289 --> 00:39:36.409 pick her out of the show. It is in the morning, 00:39:36.590 --> 00:39:38.909 you know, because she's kind of like in the background 00:39:38.909 --> 00:39:41.110 when they're like getting ready in the morning. 00:39:41.130 --> 00:39:44.829 You can see her. They didn't want you to, but 00:39:44.829 --> 00:39:50.389 you still can. Anyway, they say Sierra's left 00:39:50.389 --> 00:39:54.590 the show for personal reasons. So now people 00:39:54.590 --> 00:39:59.269 who are not on social media, people who are not 00:39:59.269 --> 00:40:05.050 as chronically online as me, who have jobs, they 00:40:05.050 --> 00:40:08.590 think like, oh, her grandma died or oh, she got 00:40:08.590 --> 00:40:11.530 sick or something like that. No, no, no, no. 00:40:11.989 --> 00:40:15.809 Let's say it for what it is. Or are you not willing 00:40:15.809 --> 00:40:19.710 to admit your misstep in allowing her on this 00:40:19.710 --> 00:40:23.059 show? I don't even know that the responsibility 00:40:23.059 --> 00:40:25.900 falls on the production of Love Island at that 00:40:25.900 --> 00:40:29.300 point. I think if you are going to take her off 00:40:29.300 --> 00:40:35.099 the show and. You say, hey, we found out about 00:40:35.099 --> 00:40:37.159 this, like this is this is why she's being removed 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:38.960 from the show. Hey, I think the cast deserves 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:40.340 to know that because they are going to come out 00:40:40.340 --> 00:40:41.659 of this because I don't know. Do they have access 00:40:41.659 --> 00:40:43.519 to their phones in this house? No. So they're 00:40:43.519 --> 00:40:44.980 OK. So they're going to come out of the show 00:40:44.980 --> 00:40:48.010 and it's going to be. It's very fuzzy on how 00:40:48.010 --> 00:40:50.389 much they know. Yeah. They're going to be asked 00:40:50.389 --> 00:40:52.309 for comments and they are not going there. They're 00:40:52.309 --> 00:40:53.809 going to have no idea what to say. And they're 00:40:53.809 --> 00:40:56.409 going to be finding out. Yeah. After all of us 00:40:56.409 --> 00:40:59.469 know. And a hundred percent. And so now they're 00:40:59.469 --> 00:41:01.869 talking about like the guy she was with is like, 00:41:01.949 --> 00:41:04.909 oh, well, my head was on straight because like 00:41:04.909 --> 00:41:08.130 I was with Sierra. I knew what I wanted, blah, 00:41:08.250 --> 00:41:10.710 blah, blah. Oh, Jesus Christ. It's Love Island. 00:41:10.969 --> 00:41:16.019 And now it's like. I don't know. It's not like 00:41:16.019 --> 00:41:18.000 anyone is going up and defending her or anything 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.460 like that. I think they know to a point that 00:41:22.460 --> 00:41:26.519 it's like something she said on social media 00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:29.360 that was not appropriate, blah, blah, blah. Because 00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:32.960 otherwise I think they'd be like, oh, I'm praying 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:34.880 for her. Oh, I miss her, blah, blah, blah. And 00:41:34.880 --> 00:41:37.300 there's none of that. And I would argue people 00:41:37.300 --> 00:41:41.199 being racist to Asians in general is that it 00:41:41.199 --> 00:41:47.239 is so. diminished and minimized like people don't 00:41:47.239 --> 00:41:51.480 take it seriously or as seriously as they should 00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:55.559 um anyway Yeah, I do think a lot of Asian hate 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:59.280 is minimized. It is. It's horrific. Yeah. And 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.420 like diminished in terms of severity, because 00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:05.579 it really does hurt a lot of people there, especially 00:42:05.579 --> 00:42:09.019 if you're like on Love Island. This girl lost 00:42:09.019 --> 00:42:12.719 like hundreds of thousands of followers in hours. 00:42:13.099 --> 00:42:15.639 She was close to a million followers and she 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:21.860 has like 700 ,000 now. Well, it was crazy. but 00:42:21.860 --> 00:42:24.519 it's like you hurt people's feelings like you 00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:26.500 made people feel like they weren't enough and 00:42:26.500 --> 00:42:31.179 like they needed a cosmetic procedure done to 00:42:31.179 --> 00:42:33.519 look a different way okay i see okay so it's 00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:34.880 like no it's more than hurting their feelings 00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.699 you're a racist cunt yeah like sorry but okay 00:42:37.699 --> 00:42:39.539 now i see where okay those i see where you're 00:42:39.539 --> 00:42:42.139 connecting like girls who are looking up to you 00:42:42.139 --> 00:42:45.380 especially asian girls who are looking up to 00:42:45.380 --> 00:42:49.739 you can you imagine like being a little girl 00:42:51.259 --> 00:42:54.960 From any Asian country and hearing someone like 00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:57.579 that. I mean, granted, maybe there's a larger 00:42:57.579 --> 00:42:59.960 conversation around like you look up to someone 00:42:59.960 --> 00:43:02.619 who's on Love Island, but also my hero is Bethany 00:43:02.619 --> 00:43:05.079 Frankel. So who am I to say anything? We're in 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.260 the age of social media and this is what we have. 00:43:07.300 --> 00:43:10.099 You know what I mean? So whatever. Can you imagine 00:43:10.099 --> 00:43:13.860 hearing that and being like, fuck, what do you 00:43:13.860 --> 00:43:16.590 do with that? I don't know. Yeah. And I don't 00:43:16.590 --> 00:43:18.869 know. I guess there was this whole thing. I don't 00:43:18.869 --> 00:43:22.130 I don't know that much about. But people like 00:43:22.130 --> 00:43:24.349 confronted her about this at the time. She's 00:43:24.349 --> 00:43:27.710 had a lot of followers for a long time. They 00:43:27.710 --> 00:43:30.409 confronted her about not using that word. And 00:43:30.409 --> 00:43:33.210 she like stood ten toes down and was like, I 00:43:33.210 --> 00:43:35.210 didn't mean it like that. Then don't fucking 00:43:35.210 --> 00:43:37.449 say it. And then one of her little friends who 00:43:37.449 --> 00:43:39.269 was like handling her social media was like, 00:43:39.309 --> 00:43:42.489 you don't understand her sense of humor. Oh, 00:43:42.489 --> 00:43:44.449 let me tell you what I'm not interested in. It's 00:43:44.449 --> 00:43:46.530 her sense of humor. No, I don't want to get her 00:43:46.530 --> 00:43:50.230 sense of humor if it's racist and vile. No. Well, 00:43:50.309 --> 00:43:53.449 there's that. Yeah. OK, so moving on. Ladies 00:43:53.449 --> 00:43:55.170 of London is coming back. Ladies of London is 00:43:55.170 --> 00:43:56.769 coming back. I'm so excited. So this is apparently 00:43:56.769 --> 00:43:59.130 old news. This was announced back in May. Oh, 00:43:59.250 --> 00:44:01.309 I didn't see it. I didn't see it either. But 00:44:01.309 --> 00:44:05.469 Ladies of London is coming back. Caroline Stanberry 00:44:05.469 --> 00:44:07.190 talked a little bit about her experience on the 00:44:07.190 --> 00:44:13.719 show. And I'm. thrilled i'm i'm so so so so excited 00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:19.659 they they didn't give a ton of detail on it but 00:44:19.659 --> 00:44:24.940 what for for people that don't know um the the 00:44:24.940 --> 00:44:29.119 show was really focused on two two groups of 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:31.059 people one was the people that have always lived 00:44:31.059 --> 00:44:35.320 in london one was america or expats that immigrated 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:38.059 from america to live in london then there was 00:44:38.059 --> 00:44:42.550 one um danish well she was danish royalty uh 00:44:42.550 --> 00:44:48.329 caroline fleming and the it was just it was a 00:44:48.329 --> 00:44:50.469 really interesting sociology experiment you're 00:44:50.469 --> 00:44:54.550 the dynamic of the the the original londoners 00:44:54.550 --> 00:44:56.869 looking down on the the americans because they 00:44:56.869 --> 00:45:01.070 were uncouth to say the least like it was it 00:45:01.070 --> 00:45:05.079 was good stuff um But it's coming back. It doesn't 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.179 really say when it's coming back, but I do know 00:45:08.179 --> 00:45:11.619 that I am thrilled for it because that was a 00:45:11.619 --> 00:45:16.039 show that if I was ever depressed and in the 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:20.059 bed, I would watch for hours on end. That's beautiful. 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:22.500 It's really good. I'm excited to see it. I've 00:45:22.500 --> 00:45:24.699 never seen it. I didn't watch the original. It's 00:45:24.699 --> 00:45:29.460 really good. The other show that I'm kind of 00:45:29.460 --> 00:45:33.170 excited about is. The Real Housewives of Rhode 00:45:33.170 --> 00:45:39.090 Island is coming to Bravo. And I feel like now 00:45:39.090 --> 00:45:41.610 that we've had Potomac and Salt Lake City and 00:45:41.610 --> 00:45:45.110 I in the very beginning said to myself, I will 00:45:45.110 --> 00:45:46.949 not watch this garbage TV. I think it's going 00:45:46.949 --> 00:45:49.650 to be horrible, stupid, terrible. And those have 00:45:49.650 --> 00:45:54.070 been the two cities that I have rewatched probably 00:45:54.070 --> 00:45:58.989 the most. Yeah. I love Potomac. Yeah. So, so, 00:45:59.010 --> 00:46:02.179 so, so much. I'm excited to see Rhode Island. 00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:08.920 It's like all 10 people who live there. Yes, 00:46:08.980 --> 00:46:12.159 probably. But like there's like money, like old 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.519 money in New England. And I'm thrilled about 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.320 that. I'm so excited. So I think that's going 00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:20.139 to be really good. I think what we're finding 00:46:20.139 --> 00:46:23.400 with I don't even want to call them mid -tier 00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:25.380 cities, but cities that you typically don't think 00:46:25.380 --> 00:46:28.380 of when you think like when you let's just call 00:46:28.380 --> 00:46:31.119 it what it is. When you think of New York. Beverly 00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:36.699 Hills, Orange County, Miami, and really those 00:46:36.699 --> 00:46:39.119 those cities, you don't think of them in the 00:46:39.119 --> 00:46:43.460 same category as you do. Let's just say Potomac, 00:46:43.500 --> 00:46:48.440 Salt Lake City, Dallas, Dallas, New Jersey. yeah 00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:52.880 so atlanta you know oh i i i hold atlanta on 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.460 a pedestal i know but i don't think like most 00:46:55.460 --> 00:46:58.719 people do i but also no one's as obsessed with 00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:04.519 the city of atlanta as i am but um so but when 00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:06.860 you look at cities in the category that you would 00:47:06.860 --> 00:47:10.340 put salt lake city in and potomac you you tend 00:47:10.340 --> 00:47:14.590 to find people that are a little more willing 00:47:14.590 --> 00:47:17.269 to put it all out there and they kind of like 00:47:17.269 --> 00:47:19.510 the drama and they're not like above it all and 00:47:19.510 --> 00:47:21.650 i really they're they're more real so much more 00:47:21.650 --> 00:47:25.949 relatable too like i think that's what i love 00:47:25.949 --> 00:47:28.809 the most about potomac compared to like i've 00:47:28.809 --> 00:47:33.900 seen oc you know and it's like that If I feel 00:47:33.900 --> 00:47:36.099 like I can't connect to anyone, I'm like not 00:47:36.099 --> 00:47:38.059 interested. It's like background noise because 00:47:38.059 --> 00:47:40.139 I'm like. That's why I've come back to Orange 00:47:40.139 --> 00:47:41.920 County because I feel like I can connect to Katie 00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:45.699 Janela. Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah, I'm excited. 00:47:45.860 --> 00:47:49.920 I think it'll be great. I'm I'm thrilled. I can't 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:54.460 wait. Dear listener, we are in the homestretch 00:47:54.460 --> 00:47:58.320 when it comes to. I know it's the last two episodes. 00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:02.539 So episode nine, the Book of Reckoning. Yeah. 00:48:03.670 --> 00:48:07.230 Baby. Macy goes to Jesse's house and we find 00:48:07.230 --> 00:48:10.030 out there was a cast trip to New Orleans that 00:48:10.030 --> 00:48:11.909 has apparently already been paid for. The house 00:48:11.909 --> 00:48:15.829 is already booked. And I love New Orleans to 00:48:15.829 --> 00:48:19.130 no end. So I was so excited. I always am. Potomac 00:48:19.130 --> 00:48:21.010 went to New Orleans. I was excited. This is a 00:48:21.010 --> 00:48:23.929 cool trip, though. It looked really cool. And 00:48:23.929 --> 00:48:28.409 I felt the same way when Potomac went. But and 00:48:28.409 --> 00:48:32.210 Jesse flat out says the timing is terrible, but. 00:48:32.619 --> 00:48:34.079 the trip's already paid for so i guess we're 00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:37.679 going yeah yeah which honestly makes it just 00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:39.719 that much juicier you know what i mean like i 00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:44.480 love a poorly timed trip i do too um jesse has 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.739 we find out jesse has to get surgery for a partial 00:48:46.739 --> 00:48:49.280 thyroid removal because and this is something 00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.619 that i think is really interesting is that i 00:48:51.619 --> 00:48:53.340 guess a bunch of nurses reached out to her when 00:48:53.340 --> 00:48:56.099 she started on the show i thought that was cool 00:48:56.099 --> 00:48:59.630 too like they noticed it watching her on tv that's 00:48:59.630 --> 00:49:02.329 so crazy yes they like she had a bunch of um 00:49:02.329 --> 00:49:05.289 nurses reach out to her and say hey just do me 00:49:05.289 --> 00:49:06.889 a favor go get your thyroid checked and apparently 00:49:06.889 --> 00:49:12.030 she had a couple of um nodule spots she had something 00:49:12.030 --> 00:49:17.489 like not tumors but whatever um and that because 00:49:17.489 --> 00:49:19.789 those nurses said hey go get this checked out 00:49:19.789 --> 00:49:23.650 that's how she found out there was an issue and 00:49:23.650 --> 00:49:27.590 then We get pretty quickly into New Orleans. 00:49:27.670 --> 00:49:30.150 The girls get to New Orleans and again, they 00:49:30.150 --> 00:49:36.230 love a party bus. Yeah. Jesse's still kind of 00:49:36.230 --> 00:49:39.449 unpacking her feelings about Demi. And she's 00:49:39.449 --> 00:49:41.750 she's she shares that she's really hurt in one 00:49:41.750 --> 00:49:43.969 of her confessionals. And she knows that she 00:49:43.969 --> 00:49:47.889 needs to pull Demi aside to talk about how terribly 00:49:47.889 --> 00:49:53.260 she talked about Jay -Z Styles. Right. taylor's 00:49:53.260 --> 00:49:55.739 not there right taylor doesn't go on the trip 00:49:55.739 --> 00:50:03.000 because she i this could have been one of two 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.739 things she didn't want to deal with the fallout 00:50:04.739 --> 00:50:08.880 from the other girls or she's actually like going 00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.780 through a lot in her life. I think it's a combination 00:50:12.780 --> 00:50:15.460 of both. Sure. I think it's, there's trouble 00:50:15.460 --> 00:50:17.579 in paradise. She's having a really hard time 00:50:17.579 --> 00:50:19.960 with Dakota and trying to parent her children. 00:50:20.059 --> 00:50:22.559 She's also co -parenting with her ex -husband. 00:50:22.659 --> 00:50:24.800 We don't see any of that on the show, so we don't 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:28.260 really know how that's going. Um, and I think 00:50:28.260 --> 00:50:31.719 she feels unsupported at this point by all the 00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:33.679 girls. So like, that's not who she would want 00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:36.019 to surround herself with if she were to go on 00:50:36.019 --> 00:50:38.780 a trip while she's going through a hard time. 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:44.800 So, I agree. This is a complete side note, but 00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.079 the Social Studies podcast with Joe Dombrowski 00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:53.159 and Gaspar Randazzo have the same intro music 00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:55.340 to their podcast that was playing when the girls 00:50:55.340 --> 00:50:58.079 walked into this house. And I said, oh, look 00:50:58.079 --> 00:50:59.820 at you getting royalty -free music from Adobe 00:50:59.820 --> 00:51:05.059 Stop. Come on. The budget is low. Yeah. This 00:51:05.059 --> 00:51:07.699 was an expensive trip. Another time the food 00:51:07.699 --> 00:51:10.489 looked in. Incredible. They tried to feed them 00:51:10.489 --> 00:51:13.909 Cajun food and it looked so good. So there was 00:51:13.909 --> 00:51:18.170 a the chef's name was Shaquita Sutton. And I 00:51:18.170 --> 00:51:21.929 hope I'm saying that right. This woman, you could 00:51:21.929 --> 00:51:26.590 hear it in her voice that she. knows how to cook 00:51:26.590 --> 00:51:29.210 and like there is you can throw down yeah there 00:51:29.210 --> 00:51:31.750 is nothing that i wanted more than just to try 00:51:31.750 --> 00:51:33.309 like some of the chicken and some of the rice 00:51:33.309 --> 00:51:36.070 like oh my god it looks so good it looks so good 00:51:36.070 --> 00:51:37.730 and that's coming from someone who's had cajun 00:51:37.730 --> 00:51:40.329 food i've lived in louisiana it looked so good 00:51:40.329 --> 00:51:44.610 but like also the presentation of all of it where 00:51:44.610 --> 00:51:46.949 she had it all on like the like the plating and 00:51:46.949 --> 00:51:49.489 like i was like oh she's so good at her job oh 00:51:49.489 --> 00:51:51.809 my god like i i felt so comfortable and safe 00:51:51.809 --> 00:51:55.860 i hope she like got a lot of business from that 00:51:55.860 --> 00:51:59.679 yeah i i truly hope that there was some some 00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:01.380 good that came out of that for her i think oh 00:52:01.380 --> 00:52:04.800 god that looked incredible yeah um me too so 00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:10.360 then jen yeah that so it it appeared that jen 00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:12.300 had come straight out of therapy and sent the 00:52:12.300 --> 00:52:16.679 girls a video where she shared basically that 00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:21.360 she's in an incredibly dark place and she acknowledges 00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:24.599 that she's hurting and that maybe why she's hurt 00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:27.820 the other girls because i i do believe this like 00:52:27.820 --> 00:52:33.500 hurt people hurt people 100 um and i think and 00:52:33.500 --> 00:52:35.639 i'm not being sarcastic when i say this i think 00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:37.260 this is probably one of the most mature things 00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:40.480 jen has ever done yeah i think it's hard for 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.699 her it's hard for her to put herself out there 00:52:43.699 --> 00:52:48.199 in a way that it's authentic yeah and accepts 00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:52.699 criticism like And put her out vulnerably. Yeah. 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:56.460 Yeah. She has a hard time with that. And I think 00:52:56.460 --> 00:52:59.719 a lot of people who are going through depression 00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:03.699 feel that way, too. Like, it's just you're already 00:53:03.699 --> 00:53:05.820 hurting so bad. You don't want to be vulnerable. 00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.380 to other people to make it worse and I think 00:53:09.380 --> 00:53:11.579 that's like what she's been trying to do is like 00:53:11.579 --> 00:53:13.800 protect her peace and she shouldn't have gone 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:16.099 to the extent of lying especially to her husband 00:53:16.099 --> 00:53:22.079 but at least she's like showing an ounce of accountability 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.920 at this point like she's she's at least showing 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:27.739 like I know I'm accountable I'm just going through 00:53:27.739 --> 00:53:30.460 a hard time like give me some space and some 00:53:30.460 --> 00:53:32.460 time and hopefully we can like work through it 00:53:32.460 --> 00:53:38.139 type of thing and maybe Maybe obviously not at 00:53:38.139 --> 00:53:40.119 the reunion because she didn't do it there. But 00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:44.800 maybe after the dust settles from the way this 00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.619 season shakes out, maybe she can come back and 00:53:47.619 --> 00:53:52.579 say, let's rebuild something. Right. I can totally 00:53:52.579 --> 00:53:55.679 see her eventually coming back and being like, 00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:59.760 hey, that was a really hard time for me. I'm 00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:02.639 sorry I had to drag you down with me. Can we 00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:05.920 just like. create something new like start from 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:10.480 scratch type of thing however demi's inability 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:14.300 to accept an apology she did it to taylor and 00:54:14.300 --> 00:54:16.400 then she turned around and immediately did it 00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:19.440 to jane she can't accept an apology from fucking 00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:23.679 anyone but i literally wrote down my god demi's 00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.260 actually going to push me to be on jen's side 00:54:26.260 --> 00:54:29.900 and that That I never thought was going to be 00:54:29.900 --> 00:54:31.699 possible because I have been very honest about 00:54:31.699 --> 00:54:34.440 how I have felt about Jen throughout this this 00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:42.760 journey. Yeah. Here's the thing. Jen sends. Let's 00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.639 take let's take feelings out of it for a second, 00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:47.699 like feelings about the optics of the video. 00:54:48.659 --> 00:54:52.260 Jen sends you a video where she is a broken woman. 00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:57.550 She is pregnant, pregnant. in a horrible state 00:54:57.550 --> 00:55:03.510 of mind yes and she comes to you as raw and as 00:55:03.510 --> 00:55:05.670 real as she can and this is coming from someone 00:55:05.670 --> 00:55:08.389 who does not fucking like her i do not like jen 00:55:08.389 --> 00:55:14.550 right now and she she was trying to just let 00:55:14.550 --> 00:55:18.199 meet you where she was at Yeah. And for Demi 00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:19.900 to come back and say, I think it's weird when 00:55:19.900 --> 00:55:22.500 people do crying videos. You're a bitch. She's 00:55:22.500 --> 00:55:25.219 crying because she feels emotional for how she 00:55:25.219 --> 00:55:27.900 treated you. She's crying because she realizes 00:55:27.900 --> 00:55:30.099 that she's in a dark place and she has dragged 00:55:30.099 --> 00:55:33.400 you down with her. She is crying because she 00:55:33.400 --> 00:55:36.380 feels things. I would go as far as to say, like, 00:55:36.420 --> 00:55:38.480 maybe I didn't even think it was about any of 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:41.460 that. I think she was like, or maybe I think 00:55:41.460 --> 00:55:44.730 you're I take that back. I think she was crying 00:55:44.730 --> 00:55:47.670 because it was a culmination of all of those 00:55:47.670 --> 00:55:50.369 things. And then she like, I think the precipice 00:55:50.369 --> 00:55:52.230 of it was like, oh, my God, I fucked up. I fucked 00:55:52.230 --> 00:55:54.190 up so bad. I fucked up. And like, you know, you 00:55:54.190 --> 00:55:57.489 don't know where to put any other emotion. So 00:55:57.489 --> 00:55:59.510 you're just you just start crying. Plus, you're 00:55:59.510 --> 00:56:02.289 hormonal because you're pregnant. I'm crying 00:56:02.289 --> 00:56:05.050 all the time over nothing. And I think that's 00:56:05.050 --> 00:56:06.849 where Jen was at in that moment. And for Demi 00:56:06.849 --> 00:56:08.429 to come back and say, I think it's weird when 00:56:08.429 --> 00:56:10.860 people do that. You're. A mean girl asshole. 00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:18.059 She is a mean girl. She is so un... She... I 00:56:18.059 --> 00:56:20.199 hope she never has to apologize for anything 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.780 in her life because she does not deserve forgiveness 00:56:22.780 --> 00:56:26.119 after the way she has refused to forgive her 00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:30.099 own friends. No. And she goes as far as to say 00:56:30.099 --> 00:56:33.099 it's manipulative and she doesn't buy it because 00:56:33.099 --> 00:56:36.079 it's weird and cowardly to film a crying video. 00:56:37.769 --> 00:56:39.630 She didn't put it on the Internet for everyone 00:56:39.630 --> 00:56:42.409 to see. She sent it to you. She sent it to the 00:56:42.409 --> 00:56:47.789 entire group. And she said, this is why I'm here. 00:56:48.170 --> 00:56:52.289 And I feel like I've hurt people because of where 00:56:52.289 --> 00:56:54.469 I'm at. And you weren't willing to hear that. 00:56:54.550 --> 00:56:56.849 You are the problem. And I'm not willing to hear 00:56:56.849 --> 00:56:59.150 anything else from Demi. And if you didn't want 00:56:59.150 --> 00:57:04.130 to accept her apology, I would almost be OK with 00:57:04.130 --> 00:57:09.510 you saying. at least showing some kind of respect 00:57:09.510 --> 00:57:12.030 for the fact that she tried to reach out and 00:57:12.030 --> 00:57:14.710 tell you where she is and tell you why she's 00:57:14.710 --> 00:57:18.670 hurt you. I would accept you saying, well, I 00:57:18.670 --> 00:57:20.590 get that's why you hurt me, but you still hurt 00:57:20.590 --> 00:57:23.650 me and I need time to like come to terms with 00:57:23.650 --> 00:57:25.210 that. Oh my God. Yeah. If she would have said 00:57:25.210 --> 00:57:27.869 I'm not ready yet, a hundred percent, I would 00:57:27.869 --> 00:57:29.940 have been fine with it. Yeah, but you have to 00:57:29.940 --> 00:57:32.280 forgive people. Aren't you Mormon? Aren't you 00:57:32.280 --> 00:57:35.079 supposed to be forgiving? I don't understand. 00:57:35.420 --> 00:57:37.300 There's no hate like Christian love, my love. 00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.920 So then Macy calls out that she feels like anything 00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:45.539 that anyone says will be used against them in 00:57:45.539 --> 00:57:49.630 a future argument. talking about Demi and then 00:57:49.630 --> 00:57:52.210 Demi gets or yeah gets defensive about this I 00:57:52.210 --> 00:57:54.769 love that Macy said something because I was feeling 00:57:54.769 --> 00:57:57.610 the same way about you're not going to allow 00:57:57.610 --> 00:58:01.130 anyone in this group to be vulnerable or imperfect 00:58:01.130 --> 00:58:04.969 at all right because they can't say they're sorry 00:58:04.969 --> 00:58:09.130 but so this is the thing is like okay so Taylor 00:58:09.130 --> 00:58:12.230 is was her first and then it well it was really 00:58:12.230 --> 00:58:14.809 it was Whitney then it's Taylor and then it's 00:58:14.809 --> 00:58:18.530 like Well, it's Jen now, but then it's like, 00:58:18.570 --> 00:58:20.489 at what point do all the girls start to say, 00:58:20.550 --> 00:58:23.570 oh, none of us are safe from Demi's wrath. Like, 00:58:23.630 --> 00:58:25.789 and that's it's weird to say that. But like, 00:58:25.809 --> 00:58:30.050 yeah, it's true. That's the truth that you better 00:58:30.050 --> 00:58:33.750 not tell Demi anything. Oh, yeah. You don't want 00:58:33.750 --> 00:58:37.429 to hear in a vulnerable setting because she will 00:58:37.429 --> 00:58:40.769 use the dirtiest thing to make you feel something 00:58:40.769 --> 00:58:43.829 and try to win an argument. Right. Like you can't 00:58:43.829 --> 00:58:46.460 be vulnerable with that girl at all. By the way, 00:58:46.500 --> 00:58:50.320 she doesn't even have her own face anymore. No 00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:53.900 one's calling that out. Well, I think that's 00:58:53.900 --> 00:58:56.539 pretty manipulative and cowardly not to have 00:58:56.539 --> 00:58:59.860 your own face. Yeah. Oh, my God. No one's calling 00:58:59.860 --> 00:59:01.719 out the age gap between you and your husband. 00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:04.219 No one's calling any of this out to your face. 00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:07.360 Right. So why do you have to play so dirty? It's 00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:13.980 gross. The girls go to a burlesque show. I couldn't 00:59:13.980 --> 00:59:19.480 believe they did that. I. It was like an actual 00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.260 like burlesque show. Like, dear viewer, holes 00:59:24.260 --> 00:59:28.360 were being shown. I I've been to a burlesque 00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:29.800 show. I've never been to one in New Orleans. 00:59:30.340 --> 00:59:32.880 They get a little freaky deaky in New Orleans 00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:36.019 outside of burlesque shows. So everything is 00:59:36.019 --> 00:59:39.820 like, yeah. Yes. So this woman gets up on stage 00:59:39.820 --> 00:59:43.780 and. Her tits and her puss were out. Oh, yeah. 00:59:43.980 --> 00:59:47.000 And because I've every burlesque I've ever been 00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:49.000 to, I've seen titties at a burlesque and like 00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:52.599 I've but mostly it's just lingerie. Yeah, typically 00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:58.480 it is lingerie. But this girl, this girl, I am 00:59:58.480 --> 01:00:02.460 naked on this stage. I'm naked. I am the way 01:00:02.460 --> 01:00:07.659 God made me. And then the dancer pulls a literal 01:00:07.659 --> 01:00:12.409 joint out of her cooch. Yeah. Lights it up, takes 01:00:12.409 --> 01:00:15.570 a hit. And then she walks up to Layla and says, 01:00:15.690 --> 01:00:18.030 here. And then Layla takes a hit out of her. 01:00:18.409 --> 01:00:21.989 Did you notice who was saying, oh, her, oh, her, 01:00:21.989 --> 01:00:26.530 oh, her. Was it Jenny? Of course she did. Stupid, 01:00:26.670 --> 01:00:30.769 stupid. Yeah, it was. That was. That was a lot. 01:00:30.969 --> 01:00:36.710 A lot. Go Layla. And here's the thing is. I. 01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:39.340 I don't have a lot of boundaries with this stuff. 01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:43.500 I don't know that I could have taken a hit off 01:00:43.500 --> 01:00:48.639 the cooch joint. Yeah, that's a little intense, 01:00:48.860 --> 01:00:53.840 especially like, you don't know this woman. You 01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:58.980 didn't sign a waiver. No. No. Yeah, I don't know. 01:00:59.019 --> 01:01:04.320 I don't know. Go Layla. I was impressed. I mean, 01:01:04.340 --> 01:01:10.380 honestly, I was too. Yeah. We go back to Utah. 01:01:10.460 --> 01:01:12.760 Taylor goes to her mom's house and she talks 01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:14.619 about how she's not in a great headspace because 01:01:14.619 --> 01:01:16.320 of the Saints and Sinners party. She feels like 01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:18.119 it's better to stay home and go to therapy. I 01:01:18.119 --> 01:01:19.880 agree with her. I think Taylor is very mature 01:01:19.880 --> 01:01:23.039 for taking that stance. I think I was very grown 01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:25.860 up to be like, maybe I shouldn't be in New Orleans 01:01:25.860 --> 01:01:29.940 right now. Right. But also something that like 01:01:29.940 --> 01:01:34.449 it goes a step further to show that Taylor. doesn't 01:01:34.449 --> 01:01:37.150 care about the publicity of all of it because 01:01:37.150 --> 01:01:39.550 what what goes on behind the scenes and like 01:01:39.550 --> 01:01:42.070 the conversations that go on if you don't show 01:01:42.070 --> 01:01:45.650 up to events they will start to they will start 01:01:45.650 --> 01:01:47.469 to produce you out of the show like they've talked 01:01:47.469 --> 01:01:49.389 about it on the real housewives a lot like the 01:01:49.389 --> 01:01:54.809 reason that um oh fuck who was it uh mary cosby 01:01:54.809 --> 01:01:56.969 the reason mary cosby got written out of the 01:01:56.969 --> 01:02:00.929 the second second second or third season was 01:02:00.929 --> 01:02:03.900 that she didn't oh she she didn't get i'm sorry 01:02:03.900 --> 01:02:06.380 it was the third season the reason mary cosby 01:02:06.380 --> 01:02:08.219 didn't come back for season three is because 01:02:08.219 --> 01:02:11.340 she didn't show up to season two of or the season 01:02:11.340 --> 01:02:16.400 two reunion um yeah of salt lake city so this 01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.059 this is a very this could have very real impacts 01:02:19.059 --> 01:02:22.039 for taylor and she said my mental health is more 01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:24.599 important so i will i do appreciate that about 01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.579 her yeah Yeah. We're back in New Orleans. Jesse's 01:02:28.579 --> 01:02:30.940 doing Layla's hair and Michaela is giving Miranda 01:02:30.940 --> 01:02:35.519 lymphatic massage. It was a weird, weird scene. 01:02:35.699 --> 01:02:38.840 Yeah, it was kind of strange. I do like a lymphatic 01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:42.440 massage. Like, I believe in the idea of that. 01:02:42.539 --> 01:02:45.639 I don't know what that is. Oh, so like your lymph 01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:48.900 nodes. You know, the things that get swollen 01:02:48.900 --> 01:02:52.599 when you get sick, they like hold all kinds of 01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:56.320 hormones and impurities and stuff. And so a lymphatic 01:02:56.320 --> 01:03:04.239 massage is like draining that. Oh, yeah. Layla 01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:06.280 says she's a little bit high and decides now's 01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:08.059 the time to ask Demi if she ever sees herself 01:03:08.059 --> 01:03:11.500 being friends with Taylor again. First of all, 01:03:11.619 --> 01:03:16.510 you're not high. Secondly. What a strange thing 01:03:16.510 --> 01:03:22.409 to ask. It is. I think she's just trying. Poor 01:03:22.409 --> 01:03:24.809 Layla is trying to tow both sides of this line 01:03:24.809 --> 01:03:29.469 that's a mile wide. It is. And obviously Demi 01:03:29.469 --> 01:03:30.889 says no. She's not gonna be friends with her. 01:03:31.010 --> 01:03:33.070 I don't want them to be friends again. Honestly, 01:03:33.110 --> 01:03:34.469 I don't want anyone to be friends with Demi. 01:03:34.550 --> 01:03:41.369 No. All the girls are confused. about Demi rebuilding 01:03:41.369 --> 01:03:43.230 her relationship with Whitney and then it's kind 01:03:43.230 --> 01:03:45.230 of like there's a double standard and then Layla 01:03:45.230 --> 01:03:49.429 just starts disassociating again yeah and I have 01:03:49.429 --> 01:03:53.710 a feeling that part of this comes back to her 01:03:53.710 --> 01:03:56.130 childhood I wonder what kind of home she grew 01:03:56.130 --> 01:03:59.130 up in like I wonder if there was because I Taylor 01:03:59.130 --> 01:04:00.710 my cousin Taylor and I have talked a lot about 01:04:00.710 --> 01:04:06.190 this where when fights are happening around us 01:04:06.190 --> 01:04:08.590 that we're not directly involved in we will start 01:04:08.590 --> 01:04:11.599 to do exactly what Layla's doing where we will 01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:13.519 just stare off into space and we will not know 01:04:13.519 --> 01:04:15.000 what's going on around us because we don't want 01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.539 to deal with it. Yeah, I think she just doesn't 01:04:17.539 --> 01:04:21.099 want to be involved in any of it. Right. And 01:04:21.099 --> 01:04:25.719 then let's see. Demi is willing to die on the 01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:28.599 hill of believing Taylor is the problem. I believe 01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:32.000 that this is because Demi wants to be the leader 01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:34.309 of the group and make the most money. That's 01:04:34.309 --> 01:04:36.010 really what it boils down to. Oh, 100%. Yes. 01:04:36.070 --> 01:04:38.210 She can't have any grace for Taylor because if 01:04:38.210 --> 01:04:40.469 that's true, then Taylor will remain the leader 01:04:40.469 --> 01:04:45.110 of mom talk. Right. And maybe Taylor does chase 01:04:45.110 --> 01:04:49.110 chaos. Maybe she does. But do you think for one 01:04:49.110 --> 01:04:53.769 second that you are not guilty of that also, 01:04:53.869 --> 01:04:57.170 Demi? That's all you're doing. All of the girls 01:04:57.170 --> 01:04:59.210 there are guilty of that. It's like the clout 01:04:59.210 --> 01:05:02.090 chasing argument. Oh, my God. Don't don't get 01:05:02.090 --> 01:05:05.699 me started. Like, that's what you're there to 01:05:05.699 --> 01:05:11.619 do. Speaking of what they're there to do, we 01:05:11.619 --> 01:05:13.840 cut to the next morning where Layla comes down. 01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:18.940 Oh, this is messy, messy. This this was actually 01:05:18.940 --> 01:05:23.300 hard to watch. Yeah. So Layla comes down with 01:05:23.300 --> 01:05:27.320 a Walgreens bag full of. pregnancy test and says 01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:29.880 let's play pregnancy roulette and i feel like 01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.539 i vaguely remember this being a trend on tiktok 01:05:32.539 --> 01:05:39.119 yeah it was okay it was and macy starts panicking 01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:40.300 because she's like i'm not ready to tell the 01:05:40.300 --> 01:05:42.440 girls i'm pregnant she wanted to do it on her 01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:46.860 terms yeah sure and this is something i didn't 01:05:46.860 --> 01:05:48.480 expect from layla of all people but she's like 01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:49.900 it'll be fine it'll be fine it'll be fine and 01:05:49.900 --> 01:05:52.829 like pressured the girls into doing it I remember 01:05:52.829 --> 01:05:55.369 how I said she kind of just doesn't think before 01:05:55.369 --> 01:05:57.650 she speaks. I think she just really wanted to 01:05:57.650 --> 01:06:01.289 do it. And like, she just doesn't think about 01:06:01.289 --> 01:06:03.829 the implications of what she's doing or saying. 01:06:04.110 --> 01:06:08.869 And part of me wonders. Did production put her 01:06:08.869 --> 01:06:12.949 up to this a little bit? Yeah. What car do you 01:06:12.949 --> 01:06:14.590 think she used to go buy all those pregnancy 01:06:14.590 --> 01:06:17.809 tests? OK, OK. You know what I mean? I agree. 01:06:19.110 --> 01:06:23.650 So Michaela is the first one to pull out. Wait. 01:06:23.869 --> 01:06:25.550 Yeah, I'm sorry. Michaela pulls out the first 01:06:25.550 --> 01:06:31.389 positive test. And. That's how we come to find 01:06:31.389 --> 01:06:36.469 out Michaela is also pregnant. Yeah. Well, yeah, 01:06:36.610 --> 01:06:39.190 when they're talking about it later, because 01:06:39.190 --> 01:06:44.769 there are two there are two positive tests. She 01:06:44.769 --> 01:06:47.849 tells Macy like in the privacy of their room. 01:06:48.010 --> 01:06:50.610 She's also in a confessional, too. Yeah. Yeah. 01:06:50.630 --> 01:06:56.039 Yeah. And then I will give Demi this one. Of 01:06:56.039 --> 01:06:58.360 course, she's the one to pull out the second 01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:02.920 positive one. Yeah, that that was hard to watch. 01:07:03.099 --> 01:07:05.920 And that really, really, really sucked because 01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:12.019 she has been. She has been trying to get pregnant 01:07:12.019 --> 01:07:15.699 and she starts crying. She has a full blown meltdown 01:07:15.699 --> 01:07:21.780 and. I had to take another positive test. Yes. 01:07:22.159 --> 01:07:25.219 And and like I'm sorry, she had to take another 01:07:25.219 --> 01:07:27.699 pregnancy test, which obviously came out negative. 01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:31.300 So that confirmed because neither Michaela nor 01:07:31.300 --> 01:07:34.860 Macy were willing to, like, give up their right 01:07:34.860 --> 01:07:38.659 to tell the girls how they wanted to. And even 01:07:38.659 --> 01:07:40.559 if one of them did, they would have had to do 01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:44.639 both of them. And so they. Yeah, that was hard. 01:07:45.309 --> 01:07:49.610 And so Demi did think for a minute it could be 01:07:49.610 --> 01:07:52.070 her. And so then she had to go take another pregnancy 01:07:52.070 --> 01:07:55.309 test and see the negative and be like heartbroken. 01:07:55.630 --> 01:07:58.489 Yeah. I will say I hate Demi right now. That 01:07:58.489 --> 01:08:01.590 really was hard to watch. Can I say something 01:08:01.590 --> 01:08:04.570 a little insensitive? Please. If you're struggling 01:08:04.570 --> 01:08:06.849 with your fertility and you're actively trying 01:08:06.849 --> 01:08:10.789 to have a baby, why are you not sitting in the 01:08:10.789 --> 01:08:14.800 bathroom? After you take your pregnancy test 01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:17.640 until you see the results of said pregnancy test 01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:24.939 before you put it in the roulette. OK, I'll get 01:08:24.939 --> 01:08:27.800 I'll go one step further and I would if I were 01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:30.779 Demi, I would have said I'm flat out not willing 01:08:30.779 --> 01:08:33.800 to participate in this game. 100 percent. Number 01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:36.819 one, it's a game. But if you're going to do it, 01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:40.689 I just feel like. To avoid all of this pain that 01:08:40.689 --> 01:08:42.810 you've experienced time and time and time again 01:08:42.810 --> 01:08:46.369 with a negative test and not knowing, I would 01:08:46.369 --> 01:08:49.050 have known my result before I ever put it back 01:08:49.050 --> 01:08:52.630 in the bag. Oh, 100%. Like, I don't know why 01:08:52.630 --> 01:08:56.210 she let it actually be a roulette. And like, 01:08:56.270 --> 01:08:59.829 because this is like the obvious outcome. They're 01:08:59.829 --> 01:09:01.649 always pregnant in this group. There was going 01:09:01.649 --> 01:09:03.989 to be somebody. My God, I've never seen a group 01:09:03.989 --> 01:09:05.689 of pregnant people like this before in my life. 01:09:08.980 --> 01:09:12.760 So Jesse goes in to comfort Demi, who is now 01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:17.079 a complete and total wreck. And I thought this 01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:18.520 was big of Jesse because they're going through 01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:21.560 their own stuff right now. Yeah, I do too. This 01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:23.420 is where Demi starts to lose me, where she's 01:09:23.420 --> 01:09:26.039 like, I try so hard to consider everyone else's 01:09:26.039 --> 01:09:28.239 feelings and everyone's so flippant about mine. 01:09:28.460 --> 01:09:30.899 And I was like, you have never considered another 01:09:30.899 --> 01:09:34.520 person's feelings in your life. Never. Not once. 01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:39.699 No. So then. Macy tells Michaela that she's also 01:09:39.699 --> 01:09:42.500 pregnant and she's like two weeks ahead of her. 01:09:42.819 --> 01:09:45.100 They tell each other they're pregnant. It's very 01:09:45.100 --> 01:09:46.939 sweet and cute. But then they have to go tell 01:09:46.939 --> 01:09:50.319 Demi and it's like they almost feel like ashamed 01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:54.279 because Demi's going through it. Exactly. However, 01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:58.439 Miss Fan Favorite can go to all of her fans to 01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:03.159 feel better. She can. I just. We go back to. 01:10:03.869 --> 01:10:06.029 We go back home where Taylor tells us she's deciding 01:10:06.029 --> 01:10:08.329 it's time to break things off with Dakota. And 01:10:08.329 --> 01:10:10.909 she feels at peace with that situation. And did 01:10:10.909 --> 01:10:14.310 we ever see them break up? No. And it's just 01:10:14.310 --> 01:10:16.210 like, I feel like I've heard that from her a 01:10:16.210 --> 01:10:18.210 million times. A million times. Like, how done 01:10:18.210 --> 01:10:20.270 are you actually? Are you going to stop sleeping 01:10:20.270 --> 01:10:24.710 with him? Are you going to stop leading him on? 01:10:24.949 --> 01:10:29.770 No. Because, like, what do you mean by breaking 01:10:29.770 --> 01:10:32.470 things off? You're already not together technically. 01:10:35.080 --> 01:10:38.420 So we'll see. So we go back to New Orleans. The 01:10:38.420 --> 01:10:41.159 girls are running around. They go to Cafe Du 01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:46.140 Monde and eat beignets. And they look so good. 01:10:46.340 --> 01:10:48.380 I want one. I love them. Have you been there? 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.500 Oh, yeah. I want one so bad. They have a Cafe 01:10:51.500 --> 01:10:53.819 Du Monde. They have like the the one you envision, 01:10:54.020 --> 01:10:56.920 the one Kim Kardashian went to, the big one on 01:10:56.920 --> 01:10:59.859 Jackson Square. But then they also have a location 01:10:59.859 --> 01:11:03.359 like. In their city park. There are locations 01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:06.260 that are like indoors. They're all delicious. 01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:10.060 Rarely will you find a bad beignet, especially 01:11:10.060 --> 01:11:14.239 in New Orleans. They're so good. I love that. 01:11:14.340 --> 01:11:17.279 And I will be eating them next week. I am so 01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:20.800 excited for you. By the dozen. Jessie decides 01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:22.939 that it's time to pull Demi aside while they're 01:11:22.939 --> 01:11:25.340 walking around a market. And she wants to hear 01:11:25.340 --> 01:11:28.760 Demi's side of the story. Of course, Demi presents 01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:32.119 it in the best way she possibly can. And Jessie 01:11:32.119 --> 01:11:34.140 feels like she's being taken advantage of because 01:11:34.140 --> 01:11:37.279 she does everyone's hair for free. And that's 01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:39.420 I didn't realize that, but that's completely 01:11:39.420 --> 01:11:45.359 valid. And I wouldn't be doing that. I just got 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.579 to tell you, I if they were like my best friends. 01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:52.300 Yeah. She walks away from the conversation saying 01:11:52.300 --> 01:11:55.739 she doesn't feel better and that maybe the move 01:11:55.739 --> 01:11:59.199 is to put up a wall and keep some distance between 01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:01.000 her and Demi. And I think everyone should put 01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:03.100 up a wall around Demi and leave Demi inside of 01:12:03.100 --> 01:12:06.060 the wall. Yet again, Jesse being mature and emotionally 01:12:06.060 --> 01:12:09.560 intelligent and realizing Demi can't own her 01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:12.659 mistakes. And so she'll just distance herself. 01:12:14.230 --> 01:12:17.529 The girls go back to the house and they start 01:12:17.529 --> 01:12:20.529 to unpack a little bit about the Mormon church. 01:12:20.750 --> 01:12:22.670 And then Jesse acknowledges that the church is 01:12:22.670 --> 01:12:27.949 a little culty. And this brought me back to the 01:12:27.949 --> 01:12:30.409 Nazarene church because I was like, ooh, we are 01:12:30.409 --> 01:12:32.250 going to talk about this one day because there's 01:12:32.250 --> 01:12:35.369 a lot there. So many people have had that awakening. 01:12:35.430 --> 01:12:40.670 My dad grew up Catholic. He's an atheist. My 01:12:40.670 --> 01:12:44.989 mom, too, actually. Oh, love that. Jesse says 01:12:44.989 --> 01:12:47.609 she doesn't really believe some of the stuff 01:12:47.609 --> 01:12:49.350 in the Book of Mormon, but she feels comfortable. 01:12:49.970 --> 01:12:54.770 And she also feels uncomfortable about the sealing 01:12:54.770 --> 01:12:57.329 and marriage situation in the church. And they 01:12:57.329 --> 01:12:59.310 talk about this a little bit on The Real Housewives 01:12:59.310 --> 01:13:01.609 of Salt Lake City, too. I guess the long and 01:13:01.609 --> 01:13:04.869 short of it is if you get married in the Mormon 01:13:04.869 --> 01:13:08.609 temple, your marriage is sealed. in the eyes 01:13:08.609 --> 01:13:11.109 of god and as long as it's sealed regardless 01:13:11.109 --> 01:13:13.670 of what happens in yeah it doesn't matter if 01:13:13.670 --> 01:13:17.189 you get divorced or anything yeah and that to 01:13:17.189 --> 01:13:20.949 me feels uncomfortable but then if it's unsealed 01:13:20.949 --> 01:13:23.770 you're unsealed from your entire family so like 01:13:23.770 --> 01:13:25.810 and this is this is where i come back to with 01:13:25.810 --> 01:13:27.390 like the religion thing where it's like there's 01:13:27.390 --> 01:13:29.810 always that big bad boogie man like in the afterlife 01:13:29.810 --> 01:13:37.149 to scare you because i uh because it like in 01:13:37.149 --> 01:13:39.250 uh it was i think it was miranda's situation 01:13:39.250 --> 01:13:43.310 they her husband unsealed the marriage to get 01:13:43.310 --> 01:13:46.710 sealed to another person it was i don't know 01:13:46.710 --> 01:13:49.409 miranda's marriage is unsealed so now miranda 01:13:49.409 --> 01:13:51.750 is told that she's not sealed to her children 01:13:51.750 --> 01:13:54.289 in the afterlife right yeah that's what it is 01:13:54.289 --> 01:13:58.409 sick yeah because it's like you're in in some 01:13:58.409 --> 01:14:00.930 religions you're told like oh in the afterlife 01:14:00.930 --> 01:14:02.430 you don't know who anyone is and you're just 01:14:02.430 --> 01:14:03.850 a floating ball of light in heaven or whatever 01:14:03.850 --> 01:14:07.729 and it's like Heather Gay talks about how her 01:14:07.729 --> 01:14:09.289 family always said there's never going to be 01:14:09.289 --> 01:14:13.569 empty chairs at the in heaven when she gets there. 01:14:13.630 --> 01:14:15.930 And now she feels like because she's not in that 01:14:15.930 --> 01:14:18.229 religion anymore, she feels a sense of loss there. 01:14:18.569 --> 01:14:23.260 And I hate that. Yeah. Why are you like. You're 01:14:23.260 --> 01:14:25.399 already going through struggle and strife in 01:14:25.399 --> 01:14:28.800 your living life. And now you're also creating 01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:32.239 stress about your afterlife. I just can't. But 01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:33.760 that's the thing about religion that gets me 01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:35.720 so much is like, oh, my God, we're all so obsessed 01:14:35.720 --> 01:14:39.699 with dying. Seriously, you are so worried about 01:14:39.699 --> 01:14:42.659 what happens when you die. And it's like ruining 01:14:42.659 --> 01:14:47.289 your actual life. OK, I'm sorry. So the Miranda 01:14:47.289 --> 01:14:49.430 situation, she does explain that her husband 01:14:49.430 --> 01:14:51.510 removed himself from the church, which is what 01:14:51.510 --> 01:14:54.369 broke the seal from her. But because you have 01:14:54.369 --> 01:14:59.010 to have a man to be sealed to, she's no longer 01:14:59.010 --> 01:15:00.949 sealed to her children in the eyes of the church. 01:15:01.489 --> 01:15:05.189 And that I just can't subscribe to that. That's 01:15:05.189 --> 01:15:07.789 so sick. Yeah. They literally have your DNA. 01:15:07.810 --> 01:15:10.250 Like, I just can't subscribe to that way of thinking. 01:15:10.369 --> 01:15:13.289 I can't. I understand it's their religion, but 01:15:13.289 --> 01:15:16.470 like that. Has to cause you such pain. And for 01:15:16.470 --> 01:15:21.989 what? Yes. The girls go to a vampire dinner. 01:15:22.590 --> 01:15:29.229 Yeah. It was so weird. I will say in the opening 01:15:29.229 --> 01:15:31.670 shots walking there, I've never seen anyone look 01:15:31.670 --> 01:15:35.170 as incredible as Macy does. I know. My God. She 01:15:35.170 --> 01:15:37.989 was eating that up. My God. I still remember 01:15:37.989 --> 01:15:43.340 what she looked like. Yeah. What a woman. so 01:15:43.340 --> 01:15:45.239 the restaurant they get you have you are there 01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:47.060 a lot of places like this in new orleans like 01:15:47.060 --> 01:15:50.979 it feels like it's like they like the occult 01:15:50.979 --> 01:15:54.079 is what i'll say it's not like they like halloween 01:15:54.079 --> 01:15:56.319 or anything like that but they like they lean 01:15:56.319 --> 01:16:00.460 into that like demons vampires that type of thing 01:16:00.460 --> 01:16:02.600 they think everything is haunted all the time 01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:05.180 obviously there's like voodoo and stuff like 01:16:05.180 --> 01:16:08.119 that but that's like Not really fucked with as 01:16:08.119 --> 01:16:11.460 much. I mean, it's yeah, it's a touristy thing, 01:16:11.539 --> 01:16:14.579 too. Sure. And I've never been to a place like 01:16:14.579 --> 01:16:16.539 that, but that I have always known people who 01:16:16.539 --> 01:16:19.539 live there. So, like, that's why this kind of 01:16:19.539 --> 01:16:24.180 place feels like a tourist trap. So they they 01:16:24.180 --> 01:16:26.960 go in. It's witchy. It's vampire or whatever. 01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:29.600 The waiter comes out and he's wearing fangs. 01:16:30.300 --> 01:16:33.460 yeah and the drinks are in blood bags and like 01:16:33.460 --> 01:16:36.659 okay like whatever but then he says like there's 01:16:36.659 --> 01:16:38.800 virgin blood in the drinks and i know it was 01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.579 probably just fruit punch or whatever yeah it's 01:16:41.579 --> 01:16:44.359 i wouldn't have been able to drink whatever the 01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:46.220 drink was because i wouldn't have been able to 01:16:46.220 --> 01:16:48.239 get past that mental block i have a thing about 01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:49.840 that like and i wouldn't have been able to do 01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:53.699 that yeah it's weird I don't know. And you would 01:16:53.699 --> 01:16:56.880 think like as super religious people, like Mormons, 01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:00.739 they would be like, oh, I can't even like say 01:17:00.739 --> 01:17:04.699 I'm doing that. Oh, I'm I agree. It's shocking 01:17:04.699 --> 01:17:09.560 to me that they like were into that. I didn't 01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:14.899 like it. Demi is a demon monster and the other 01:17:14.899 --> 01:17:17.649 girls are starting to see it like because. And 01:17:17.649 --> 01:17:19.829 at this point, it feels like it's becoming an 01:17:19.829 --> 01:17:21.970 obsession with Demi where it's like, I have to 01:17:21.970 --> 01:17:23.170 talk about Taylor. I have to talk about Taylor. 01:17:23.409 --> 01:17:26.569 It's like a tick almost. Yes. Well, yeah, she's 01:17:26.569 --> 01:17:28.970 like on this train of trying to replace Taylor. 01:17:29.069 --> 01:17:33.270 So she like keeps driving into it. Can't stop 01:17:33.270 --> 01:17:35.329 talking about Taylor, especially when Taylor's 01:17:35.329 --> 01:17:39.210 not there. Oh, no, because like, God forbid you 01:17:39.210 --> 01:17:41.470 ever stand on your own business. But that's neither 01:17:41.470 --> 01:17:43.630 here nor there. Yeah. If Taylor can defend herself, 01:17:43.810 --> 01:17:46.489 then you're scared. So what now? So what now? 01:17:47.719 --> 01:17:51.359 But what now is episode 10, the season finale, 01:17:51.779 --> 01:17:56.260 the book of salvation. Oh, yeah, baby. We're 01:17:56.260 --> 01:17:59.979 almost there. Listener. OK, so we open the episode. 01:18:00.220 --> 01:18:04.119 Layla brings Taylor a beignet kit. Yeah. If I 01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:06.180 don't receive a beignet kit from you when you 01:18:06.180 --> 01:18:08.779 come back from New Orleans, I will kill myself. 01:18:09.020 --> 01:18:11.239 Just so you can get them all over the place. 01:18:11.300 --> 01:18:16.470 I'll get you. So. Layla does feel like she needs 01:18:16.470 --> 01:18:18.430 to make up for not fully having Taylor's back. 01:18:19.590 --> 01:18:24.010 And this. The more and more I think about the 01:18:24.010 --> 01:18:27.329 way the rest of this scene went, Taylor's mom 01:18:27.329 --> 01:18:32.369 has to be talking to production directly. You 01:18:32.369 --> 01:18:35.909 would say there's no doubt in my mind. And I 01:18:35.909 --> 01:18:38.949 think they're doing her dirty because like they 01:18:38.949 --> 01:18:42.180 are. Putting her in situations where she looks 01:18:42.180 --> 01:18:43.659 like the idiot and they're not telling her how 01:18:43.659 --> 01:18:48.800 to handle it. So Taylor's mom shows up and she 01:18:48.800 --> 01:18:53.699 they're talking about the Christmas party that 01:18:53.699 --> 01:18:59.319 Demi's hosting and. Taylor's like, I guess like, 01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:01.479 like I've, I've bought all the stuff for, and 01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:03.439 Layla's like, you're not invited, babe. What 01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:06.020 are you talking about? And we find out like she 01:19:06.020 --> 01:19:08.800 was accidentally invited, which that's a real 01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:12.439 kick in the dick. But Taylor's mom is sitting 01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:19.000 there. She's like, I could go. She's so weird. 01:19:19.500 --> 01:19:22.239 Desperate to be on that show. She wants all the 01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:26.119 screen time possible, but she also is like, If 01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:29.359 my mom acted like that on TV or not, I would 01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:37.819 be so humiliated. Oh, to say the least. Knowing 01:19:37.819 --> 01:19:41.659 how this shakes out, though, I'm kind of OK with 01:19:41.659 --> 01:19:44.960 Leanne offering to insert herself. I don't know 01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:49.619 that I am. But I also am obviously not like Taylor, 01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:51.880 because if my mom would have even said, well, 01:19:51.939 --> 01:19:55.359 I can show up, I would have been like. No, you 01:19:55.359 --> 01:19:58.819 won't. No, please don't. Denise would not have 01:19:58.819 --> 01:20:01.319 known that this party was happening. No, but 01:20:01.319 --> 01:20:05.039 like, I don't know. That's the difference between 01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:07.060 me and Taylor, I guess. I would have been like, 01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:10.479 hard no. Absolutely not. Why does she want to 01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:13.380 deal with her grown daughter's problems for her? 01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:15.119 Make her face it. She doesn't want to deal with 01:20:15.119 --> 01:20:18.020 the problems. She wants to be on TV. Yeah. I 01:20:18.020 --> 01:20:20.479 think that's a universal truth we all need to 01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:25.460 accept. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So we get to 01:20:25.460 --> 01:20:29.340 the Christmas party. I hate it that Demi looks 01:20:29.340 --> 01:20:31.479 gorgeous. Like she looks really good. She looks 01:20:31.479 --> 01:20:33.640 stunning at the Christmas party. It pissed me 01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:37.079 off. There's a champagne toast and Demi says, 01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:38.779 I feel like there's going to be minimal drama 01:20:38.779 --> 01:20:42.439 because Taylor's not here. Then Leanne immediately 01:20:42.439 --> 01:20:49.159 walks in holding a gift. Yeah. Hi, Leanne. We 01:20:49.159 --> 01:20:53.380 get a flashback to. Leanne calling Whitney and 01:20:53.380 --> 01:20:55.539 saying, why didn't you show up to Taylor's baby 01:20:55.539 --> 01:20:59.159 shower? And this is also embarrassing for Taylor. 01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:04.939 Yeah. Weird. Leanne and Demi go to sit down and 01:21:04.939 --> 01:21:09.659 talk and. So I'm conflicted about this. I know 01:21:09.659 --> 01:21:12.939 I've given Leanne a lot of shit and like I think 01:21:12.939 --> 01:21:18.220 she deserves it most of the time. I. If you look 01:21:18.220 --> 01:21:22.810 at it in for nothing else, but. this is a mom 01:21:22.810 --> 01:21:26.409 who's willing to show up for her daughter sure 01:21:26.409 --> 01:21:32.130 sure i do think that that's not quite what this 01:21:32.130 --> 01:21:35.010 is but like i will say maybe that was part of 01:21:35.010 --> 01:21:37.350 it maybe that's why taylor was so desperate not 01:21:37.350 --> 01:21:39.989 not i think taylor's been desperate for her mom 01:21:39.989 --> 01:21:42.510 to defend her for most of her life and i think 01:21:42.510 --> 01:21:44.850 maybe this is why taylor was like i'll give her 01:21:44.850 --> 01:21:49.770 that whatever i don't know yeah i mean it's Obviously, 01:21:49.789 --> 01:21:52.090 you'd love to see a mom standing up for her daughter, 01:21:52.170 --> 01:21:57.289 but it's like, I don't know. Doing it in the 01:21:57.289 --> 01:21:59.489 most dramatic way possible to be on TV makes 01:21:59.489 --> 01:22:03.930 it a little less genuine to me. But what's even 01:22:03.930 --> 01:22:08.149 more awkward than Leanne's mom showing up? I'm 01:22:08.149 --> 01:22:10.489 sorry, what's even more awkward than Leanne showing 01:22:10.489 --> 01:22:13.409 up to talk to Demi is Whitney walking over to 01:22:13.409 --> 01:22:17.649 have Demi's back. Whitney needs to mind her business. 01:22:18.109 --> 01:22:20.890 Honest to God. Whitney, you're invited to this 01:22:20.890 --> 01:22:24.270 party. Leave well enough alone. Yeah, please 01:22:24.270 --> 01:22:31.909 be grateful for your seat and go away. So Demi 01:22:31.909 --> 01:22:34.149 talks about how she's also been a single mom 01:22:34.149 --> 01:22:37.850 in the past when when it comes up like Taylor 01:22:37.850 --> 01:22:41.000 doesn't feel supported. And then. She's comparing 01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:42.720 herself to Taylor, talking about how she's also 01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:44.140 been a single mom. And then we get to Jessie 01:22:44.140 --> 01:22:46.060 saying, Demi was a single mom for one month. 01:22:47.180 --> 01:22:50.579 That made me cackle when I watched it. I was 01:22:50.579 --> 01:22:53.619 so dead. And what I appreciate about Jessie is 01:22:53.619 --> 01:22:57.640 she's not going to let you get it. Not after 01:22:57.640 --> 01:23:00.779 you talk shit about her business. Tell it like 01:23:00.779 --> 01:23:05.119 it is, Jessie. Brett was kind of standing over 01:23:05.119 --> 01:23:07.039 on the sidelines. And what I do appreciate about 01:23:07.039 --> 01:23:10.779 Brett that I don't think a lot of. husbands on 01:23:10.779 --> 01:23:15.359 reality tv especially real housewives um he did 01:23:15.359 --> 01:23:18.800 what a lot of them don't do is that he was over 01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:21.800 just kind of letting the conversation play out 01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:24.840 how it was going to he never once said oh look 01:23:24.840 --> 01:23:26.659 at those women over there doing women things 01:23:26.659 --> 01:23:29.260 like he just said i'm staying out of it entirely 01:23:29.260 --> 01:23:33.100 and only inserted himself when santa shows up 01:23:33.100 --> 01:23:38.550 and that was and part of me is like Could he 01:23:38.550 --> 01:23:40.609 have done a better job defending his wife? Maybe. 01:23:41.289 --> 01:23:44.189 I don't think it was his place to defend her. 01:23:44.250 --> 01:23:46.430 I think she was having a conversation with another 01:23:46.430 --> 01:23:49.829 grown woman and she can hold her own in that. 01:23:50.850 --> 01:23:55.069 Yeah. Leanne decides it's time to head out and 01:23:55.069 --> 01:24:01.210 Demi says to Leanne, I haven't even pulled out 01:24:01.210 --> 01:24:06.350 the boxing gloves yet. She's so petty. Well, 01:24:06.369 --> 01:24:10.720 and this is where I'm like, Okay, so you're going 01:24:10.720 --> 01:24:14.359 out of your way to, like, to annihilate her entire 01:24:14.359 --> 01:24:19.500 family at this point. Yeah. I think that if you 01:24:19.500 --> 01:24:21.039 were going to be an asshole to Leanne, you should 01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:22.680 have said you're not welcome here. I'm not. It's 01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:23.899 not a conversation I'm willing to participate 01:24:23.899 --> 01:24:25.819 in. You sit down with her. You have the conversation. 01:24:25.899 --> 01:24:27.880 You basically say your daughter's a cunt. How 01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:30.640 dare you show up and defend her? And you're this 01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:32.420 is Taylor not being willing to show up and like 01:24:32.420 --> 01:24:34.739 fight her own battles. And now you're saying, 01:24:34.819 --> 01:24:36.939 oh, I haven't even pulled up the box. What are 01:24:36.939 --> 01:24:38.300 you going to do? Tell me what you're going to 01:24:38.300 --> 01:24:42.460 do. If you had anything to say, you had an hour 01:24:42.460 --> 01:24:45.760 to say it while you were talking to Leanne. Right. 01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:50.600 And. So Leanne leaves in tears and then all the 01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:53.479 women kind of rally around and like hug Leanne 01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:55.819 and say like, yeah, that was kind of fucked up 01:24:55.819 --> 01:24:59.659 and disrespectful. Yeah, that was a lot. Demi 01:24:59.659 --> 01:25:02.399 decides it's time to open the gift and it ends 01:25:02.399 --> 01:25:04.920 up being a PR box from Jay -Z Styles. Yes. Jay 01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:07.319 -Z had no idea what was in that box and I think 01:25:07.319 --> 01:25:10.680 that made it even better. I know, 100%. Was it 01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:13.500 petty? Yes, but this wouldn't have been a thing 01:25:13.500 --> 01:25:15.720 if you wouldn't have put yourself in that situation, 01:25:16.079 --> 01:25:20.220 you asshole. It was meant to be petty and you 01:25:20.220 --> 01:25:23.060 made it. You were petty first. You can't get 01:25:23.060 --> 01:25:24.899 mad at someone for being petty when you were 01:25:24.899 --> 01:25:26.779 petty with them. And P .S., you just screamed 01:25:26.779 --> 01:25:31.380 at their mom. Yes. So then Demi says we should 01:25:31.380 --> 01:25:32.899 all have a board meeting to figure out who's 01:25:32.899 --> 01:25:37.000 in and who's out of mom talk. Of course. Of course 01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:42.060 she does. Next scene, Macy goes to visit her 01:25:42.060 --> 01:25:46.859 former boyfriend, Eric's parents. This made me 01:25:46.859 --> 01:25:52.340 cry and cry and cry. I yeah. This is also when 01:25:52.340 --> 01:25:55.819 they visit the crash site, right? It comes later. 01:25:56.760 --> 01:26:03.239 So. We find out that Macy's been super open with 01:26:03.239 --> 01:26:08.060 her son Hudson about his dad and. Yeah, because 01:26:08.060 --> 01:26:10.079 Eric has passed away. For those who don't know 01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:11.800 what we're talking about. Right. Eric passed 01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:14.800 away in a car accident. And she tells Eric's 01:26:14.800 --> 01:26:17.640 mom that she wants to share this story in her 01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:20.180 book, but she feels like she hasn't fully grieved 01:26:20.180 --> 01:26:23.279 about losing him. And she shares that she hasn't 01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:26.939 even been to the crash site yet. Yeah. Eric's 01:26:26.939 --> 01:26:31.779 mom is incredibly sweet. And I feel like for 01:26:31.779 --> 01:26:35.699 a mom that lost her kid to be able to a come 01:26:35.699 --> 01:26:40.220 on camera. And B, talk about this and hold it 01:26:40.220 --> 01:26:43.600 together the way she did. That's pretty incredible. 01:26:44.020 --> 01:26:49.640 Yeah. And then she encourages Macy to to kind 01:26:49.640 --> 01:26:52.159 of work through the grieving and then to just 01:26:52.159 --> 01:26:54.300 live because that's what Eric would have wanted. 01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:57.960 I think everyone at some point says that to people 01:26:57.960 --> 01:27:01.899 that, you know, like. have lost someone but like 01:27:01.899 --> 01:27:05.060 yeah but you do have to face it because it's 01:27:05.060 --> 01:27:08.539 so easy to just like give up you know what I 01:27:08.539 --> 01:27:14.279 mean right yeah um Dakota picks Everett from 01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:17.659 Leanne's house and he says that being apart from 01:27:17.659 --> 01:27:21.539 Taylor is what's best right now great I'm glad 01:27:21.539 --> 01:27:23.279 you think that I'm glad you're telling us you 01:27:23.279 --> 01:27:29.840 think that yeah okay anyway anyway Yeah, so then 01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:36.020 we go to Jesse's salon. Jesse gives us an update 01:27:36.020 --> 01:27:40.319 about her thyroid. I didn't realize they have 01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:42.239 to like slit your throat open to do that surgery. 01:27:42.600 --> 01:27:44.979 Yeah, your thyroid's like right here. I don't 01:27:44.979 --> 01:27:48.020 know where I thought your thyroid was, but yeah, 01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:51.899 so luckily everything came back clean. Jesse's 01:27:51.899 --> 01:27:55.840 got a clean bill of health. Macy shows up to 01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:58.550 get extensions for her mom and. Jessie immediately 01:27:58.550 --> 01:28:01.789 knows exactly what kind of extensions her mom 01:28:01.789 --> 01:28:04.029 needs. Oh, the way she walked in and she was 01:28:04.029 --> 01:28:06.090 like, oh, well, your mom uses this and this. 01:28:06.229 --> 01:28:09.369 I thought that was so sweet. Like, it made me 01:28:09.369 --> 01:28:11.489 feel safe. You can tell that she, like, genuinely 01:28:11.489 --> 01:28:13.989 cares about hair. Like, she's passionate about 01:28:13.989 --> 01:28:17.350 it and she applies herself to it. I agree. And 01:28:17.350 --> 01:28:18.930 then they start to unpack the situation with 01:28:18.930 --> 01:28:21.890 Demi and they both agree that Demi's not being 01:28:21.890 --> 01:28:27.239 a good friend. Yeah. I think. Those are the two 01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:30.199 most mature people like in this whole show, Macy 01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:33.359 and Jesse. Million percent. Yes. And for them 01:28:33.359 --> 01:28:37.159 to sit down and be like, I can't really give 01:28:37.159 --> 01:28:40.800 any grace to Demi. Both of them speaks volumes 01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:44.319 like she's not being a good person. I agree. 01:28:45.380 --> 01:28:48.800 We cut to the mom talk meeting at Jesse's house. 01:28:49.220 --> 01:28:54.350 Mm hmm. All the girls show up and then before 01:28:54.350 --> 01:28:55.949 Taylor, but then Taylor shows up a little bit 01:28:55.949 --> 01:28:58.590 late. It is as awkward as anything has ever been. 01:28:58.909 --> 01:29:01.850 Yeah. I guess Taylor and Demi haven't talked 01:29:01.850 --> 01:29:06.210 since the Saints and Sinners party. And they 01:29:06.210 --> 01:29:12.630 all sit down, talk. And there's kind of a consensus 01:29:12.630 --> 01:29:16.090 that mom talk as an existing in the spirit in 01:29:16.090 --> 01:29:19.729 which it was originally intended. Yeah. Which. 01:29:20.920 --> 01:29:23.359 it's true and they're not having fun anymore 01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:25.960 and i think that's right i'm glad that they acknowledge 01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:29.000 that it was supposed to be a fun thing and they're 01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:32.340 not supposed to be posting tiktoks and uplifting 01:29:32.340 --> 01:29:35.079 each other i feel like if anything they became 01:29:35.079 --> 01:29:39.800 like too close for comfort where like they're 01:29:39.800 --> 01:29:42.460 having trouble uplifting each other partially 01:29:42.460 --> 01:29:47.149 because they are like best friends now or like 01:29:47.149 --> 01:29:50.390 at least acting like best friends right and it's 01:29:50.390 --> 01:29:54.810 like you can't like keep them at an arm's length 01:29:54.810 --> 01:29:58.250 when you when you're so close yeah it's not business 01:29:58.250 --> 01:30:03.189 anymore right and it's like it's obvious they're 01:30:03.189 --> 01:30:05.090 not having fun and so i'm glad that they were 01:30:05.090 --> 01:30:06.789 like aware enough to bring that to attention 01:30:06.789 --> 01:30:13.699 right um miranda is Like her name comes up and 01:30:13.699 --> 01:30:15.039 the girls agree to give her a little bit more 01:30:15.039 --> 01:30:17.260 time to become part of the group. I thought that 01:30:17.260 --> 01:30:19.560 was fair since she didn't really like have much 01:30:19.560 --> 01:30:22.659 of a storyline this season. We didn't hear from 01:30:22.659 --> 01:30:26.479 her that much. Sure. I don't know. I like Miranda. 01:30:26.859 --> 01:30:28.800 I like her too. I like her a lot. I would have 01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:30.640 been happy if they voted her and I just thought 01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:35.319 like, OK, that makes sense. Whitney comes up 01:30:35.319 --> 01:30:39.529 and. taylor's response actually shocked me a 01:30:39.529 --> 01:30:41.109 little bit because she said she felt like she 01:30:41.109 --> 01:30:43.909 was the only one that stuck up for her and yeah 01:30:43.909 --> 01:30:47.409 that has backfired on her so she's not voting 01:30:47.409 --> 01:30:52.850 yes but she's like whatever and the rest of the 01:30:52.850 --> 01:30:55.789 girls say okay whatever so majority rules and 01:30:56.439 --> 01:30:59.880 She's back in mom talk. Whitney has never been 01:30:59.880 --> 01:31:02.619 happier. She was over the moon. She was happier 01:31:02.619 --> 01:31:05.619 about this than she was about her baby. I'm telling 01:31:05.619 --> 01:31:09.760 you. She was thrilled. I was honestly like, this 01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:16.859 is mental illness. Taylor says that Demi shouldn't 01:31:16.859 --> 01:31:19.359 be part of the group, though. And Demi is as 01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:24.699 hateful as anyone has ever been to Taylor. brings 01:31:24.699 --> 01:31:30.260 the venom out it was this was ugly like ugly 01:31:30.260 --> 01:31:34.399 and this all comes back to the ultimatum that 01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:36.159 she gave the group where she said if taylor's 01:31:36.159 --> 01:31:38.619 in i'm out yeah she didn't think taylor was gonna 01:31:38.619 --> 01:31:41.600 find out about this which is so stupid how can 01:31:41.600 --> 01:31:43.539 you think taylor's not gonna find out you said 01:31:43.539 --> 01:31:46.460 that right sorry so demi calls taylor disgusting 01:31:46.460 --> 01:31:49.840 human being and when Not a single soul backs 01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:51.899 her up. Of course, she immediately starts crying. 01:31:52.039 --> 01:31:54.119 And of course, she throws herself on the cross 01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:56.340 talking about how how she's such a good friend. 01:31:56.520 --> 01:31:59.180 And she would be fighting to the death for any 01:31:59.180 --> 01:32:03.220 of the other girls. And which is so funny because 01:32:03.220 --> 01:32:04.939 you were just trying to get them off the show. 01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:08.460 She decides she's going to take some time to 01:32:08.460 --> 01:32:11.100 decide if staying in mom talk is the right thing 01:32:11.100 --> 01:32:13.159 to do. And she goes and she says, if the girl 01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:15.079 if you girls don't mind. And Taylor goes, yeah, 01:32:15.100 --> 01:32:25.260 we don't mind. I think when I watched this, I 01:32:25.260 --> 01:32:28.520 thought Demi was scared she was about to be voted 01:32:28.520 --> 01:32:31.300 out for the way that she was venomous all season 01:32:31.300 --> 01:32:34.180 long. So she removed herself before they could 01:32:34.180 --> 01:32:36.699 take a vote. I agree. That's what I think. You're 01:32:36.699 --> 01:32:43.560 100 percent right. And. The girls decide that 01:32:43.560 --> 01:32:45.300 in this moment, we're going to be better off 01:32:45.300 --> 01:32:48.279 without Demi because I think mom talk can finally 01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:51.619 start to heal. Sounds like she should just stay 01:32:51.619 --> 01:32:57.579 gone. I hope so. So the next day, Macy and Michaela 01:32:57.579 --> 01:33:03.840 go to Eric's crash site. And this was. This was 01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:09.689 obviously a big deal for Macy and. While I've 01:33:09.689 --> 01:33:12.390 had a hard time with Michaela this season, I 01:33:12.390 --> 01:33:15.210 think Michaela was a very, very, very good friend 01:33:15.210 --> 01:33:18.989 to her. I think the whole season Michaela was 01:33:18.989 --> 01:33:23.449 a good friend to Macy. Yes, but I think in this 01:33:23.449 --> 01:33:27.930 moment she showed the hell up. She did. She did. 01:33:28.029 --> 01:33:30.630 And this is a hard this had to be a hard thing 01:33:30.630 --> 01:33:33.149 because I've never been to the crash site where 01:33:33.149 --> 01:33:35.689 Jack's dad got in an accident. I've never been 01:33:35.689 --> 01:33:38.140 there. And, like, I can't imagine going there. 01:33:38.380 --> 01:33:42.699 Right. So, like, props to her for being so strong. 01:33:42.939 --> 01:33:45.460 Yes. I, again, cried and cried and cried and 01:33:45.460 --> 01:33:51.760 cried. But, like, yeah, I couldn't believe, like, 01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:54.939 that was such an emotional thing. And that's 01:33:54.939 --> 01:33:56.859 why I think we should read her book. I think 01:33:56.859 --> 01:33:58.380 I said this, like, a few episodes back. You'll 01:33:58.380 --> 01:34:01.680 get to the point where I think we should read 01:34:01.680 --> 01:34:04.340 her book because I can relate. And that's it. 01:34:05.400 --> 01:34:09.960 Absolutely. I've already pre -ordered it. I'll 01:34:09.960 --> 01:34:13.619 pre -order you a copy too. I'll get it. It's 01:34:13.619 --> 01:34:16.199 already too late. I'm doing it right now. I don't 01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:18.159 like e -books so I need a physical copy. I'll 01:34:18.159 --> 01:34:22.739 buy you a physical copy. Macy opens up about 01:34:22.739 --> 01:34:26.659 how she and Eric were in a fight when he passed 01:34:26.659 --> 01:34:30.060 and she actually found out about him passing 01:34:30.060 --> 01:34:32.579 from an Instagram post from one of his friends. 01:34:34.829 --> 01:34:37.630 I cannot imagine, like, being in a fight with 01:34:37.630 --> 01:34:42.470 someone and, like, you don't even know what you 01:34:42.470 --> 01:34:46.109 have left that's unsaid. And mind you, she didn't 01:34:46.109 --> 01:34:49.250 have to say this on the show. I think she is 01:34:49.250 --> 01:34:55.189 so strong for being that honest about her mindset 01:34:55.189 --> 01:34:59.569 and where she was when this happened. Like, wow. 01:35:01.130 --> 01:35:04.239 Yeah. I like the fact that she can admit to herself 01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:09.859 and to all of America that like they were in 01:35:09.859 --> 01:35:12.439 an argument when this happened. Like she didn't, 01:35:12.439 --> 01:35:15.100 no one made her say that. No one made her say 01:35:15.100 --> 01:35:17.680 anything. I really like respect her. Well, that's 01:35:17.680 --> 01:35:20.180 the thing is like. This is what I really appreciate 01:35:20.180 --> 01:35:22.300 about Macy is that she had the chance to rewrite 01:35:22.300 --> 01:35:24.619 a narrative here. She had the chance to say like, 01:35:24.699 --> 01:35:27.600 no, everything was fine. And she said, no, we 01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:29.159 were fighting. And I said some pretty horrific 01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:31.720 shit to him. And I regret what I said. Yeah. 01:35:32.340 --> 01:35:36.560 That's huge. Yeah. And then and again, Michaela 01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:40.399 comes out of the car with Macy and. And, you 01:35:40.399 --> 01:35:42.279 know, I feel about the whole religion thing, 01:35:42.380 --> 01:35:45.090 but like. And Michaela says, do you want me to 01:35:45.090 --> 01:35:46.989 say a little prayer? And like, I think in that 01:35:46.989 --> 01:35:49.670 moment, Macy really, really, really needed that. 01:35:50.090 --> 01:35:53.569 Yeah. And I'm going to cry about it now. Yeah, 01:35:53.569 --> 01:35:57.489 that was Macy was just or Michaela was a really 01:35:57.489 --> 01:36:00.390 good friend to Macy in that moment. One hundred 01:36:00.390 --> 01:36:03.369 percent. She was there for her in every capacity, 01:36:03.550 --> 01:36:06.630 but she also didn't like. She didn't make it 01:36:06.630 --> 01:36:09.409 more dramatic than it needed to be. She didn't 01:36:09.409 --> 01:36:11.890 drag it out. She didn't ask Macy a hundred times 01:36:11.890 --> 01:36:14.890 how she's feeling. She just let it be this. And 01:36:14.890 --> 01:36:18.189 she also said this is for Macy. This is for Macy 01:36:18.189 --> 01:36:20.510 to heal. And I am just here to support that. 01:36:20.590 --> 01:36:25.069 And that was huge. Yeah, I do think she's a really 01:36:25.069 --> 01:36:27.010 good friend to Macy. I think the problem with 01:36:27.010 --> 01:36:31.250 Michaela is that she's very. choosy with who 01:36:31.250 --> 01:36:33.829 she will be friends with. But when she's friends 01:36:33.829 --> 01:36:35.630 with someone, I think she's a pretty good friend. 01:36:35.829 --> 01:36:42.569 Yeah. So we come to the last scene of the season. 01:36:44.510 --> 01:36:48.430 Where Layla goes up to me, meet up with Marciano 01:36:48.430 --> 01:36:53.550 and Lord have mercy. You know exactly what I'm 01:36:53.550 --> 01:36:56.409 going to say about this man. Lord have mercy. 01:36:59.169 --> 01:37:02.029 marciano they get up to i guess his hotel room 01:37:02.029 --> 01:37:04.909 i don't know marciano pours himself a glass of 01:37:04.909 --> 01:37:08.689 straight tequila yeah a glass mind you not a 01:37:08.689 --> 01:37:12.670 double shot not a shot in a glass a full glass 01:37:12.670 --> 01:37:17.449 there are probably four or five shots just like 01:37:17.449 --> 01:37:20.569 in this cup no ice i mean it's a hardened alcoholic 01:37:20.569 --> 01:37:26.859 oh a hundred percent um Layla asked some questions 01:37:26.859 --> 01:37:29.859 about what went down between him and Demi. And 01:37:29.859 --> 01:37:32.479 Marciano says he thought it was a swinger situation 01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:36.140 and then he tried to kiss Demi. And then he tells 01:37:36.140 --> 01:37:40.420 a story about him and Jesse. And we get some 01:37:40.420 --> 01:37:45.340 context flashbacks about the rumors about them. 01:37:46.060 --> 01:37:49.449 Kissing in the bar. Yeah, Tom, Tom and Sir. And 01:37:49.449 --> 01:37:52.710 my God, Lisa Vanderpump, this is a field day 01:37:52.710 --> 01:37:55.789 for her. Every single one of her. She is thrilled. 01:37:56.710 --> 01:38:03.649 She is so happy. And then we we end on the cliffhanger 01:38:03.649 --> 01:38:07.789 where he says they fucked and it was a full blown 01:38:07.789 --> 01:38:12.069 affair. Yeah. And that's the end of the season, 01:38:12.130 --> 01:38:15.149 the end of the episode until the reunion. We'll 01:38:15.149 --> 01:38:19.399 talk about the reunion next time. But. Oh, whoa. 01:38:20.479 --> 01:38:24.819 I just it's just so out of left field. There's 01:38:24.819 --> 01:38:28.100 a lot there because like Jesse was my favorite 01:38:28.100 --> 01:38:31.880 all season. And so it's like I she's still my 01:38:31.880 --> 01:38:34.079 favorite. Her and Macy are still my favorites. 01:38:34.140 --> 01:38:36.640 Yeah. Number one. Number two. I don't know that 01:38:36.640 --> 01:38:40.359 I buy it. I don't know that I do either. We'll 01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:43.060 talk about it more because of the reunion. But 01:38:43.060 --> 01:38:47.210 like. I just don't know who's telling the truth 01:38:47.210 --> 01:38:51.250 at this point. No, I don't either. That's the 01:38:51.250 --> 01:38:54.289 end of the season. Yep, that's the end of the 01:38:54.289 --> 01:38:57.630 season of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Dear 01:38:57.630 --> 01:39:00.550 listener, thank you so much for being a part 01:39:00.550 --> 01:39:04.949 of today's episode. This has been Emma and I 01:39:04.949 --> 01:39:06.949 have been recording for four hours straight. 01:39:09.029 --> 01:39:14.430 It's a lot. I am going to. Jack knows it's the 01:39:14.430 --> 01:39:16.989 end because he took that iPad like you wouldn't 01:39:16.989 --> 01:39:19.710 believe. 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