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Hi, I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. What's the last

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song you listened to? Oh, yeah. One second. It

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was... Bedless by Pierce the Veil. What was it?

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It's called Bedless by Pierce the Veil. Bedless?

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Unfortunately, it's one of their newer songs,

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which just doesn't hit the same, but regardless,

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love them. Oh. Mine was Yippee -Ki -Yay by Kesha

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and T -Pain. Preparing for their concert. Well,

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Kesha's concert, but. I would love to see T -Pain

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in concert too, though. I kind of would too.

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I wouldn't hate that. I love T -Pain. Do you

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know he's like an actually really talented singer?

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Yeah. He just uses auto -tune to sound, to have

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that sound he has. Well, he's also like a really

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talented writer too. Like Kesha was talking about

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how, I guess. He called her at like two or three

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in the morning and said, I have an idea. And

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then an hour later, Yippee -ki -yay existed.

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Yeah. Yeah. He's insane. I love T -Pain. I think

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he's a really underrated artist in the sense

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of artistry. He is genuinely talented. Love that.

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Anyway. So what do you want to start with today?

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I don't really have much in the sense of pregnancy

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updates, at least that I'm willing to share,

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except that my dreams are vivid and I can't sleep.

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What was the last thing you dreamed about? The

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last one I remember is being in high school for

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some reason, but my stepdad was like dying and

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then he died. But it was all very weird. It was

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like he was in the hospital for two seconds before

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he died. It was so weird. And my stepdad is fine.

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But most of the time I can't remember them. Like

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they keep me up all night. But the second I go

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to sleep again, I can't remember it anymore.

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It's been a trip. Let me just tell you. Trying

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to sleep. I mean. I bet. How big is baby August

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right now? Like in your stomach? Cucumber. Cucumber.

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Yeah, five and a half inches, they say. It feels

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like a massive jump from onion. Yeah, it really

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does. But they say every time I've gone to the,

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like I've gotten an ultrasound, they say that

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he's measuring a week too big, like a week bigger

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than I actually am. And next week is mango. So

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I'm telling myself mango. Oh, also, isn't a cucumber

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longer than a mango? I don't. Anyway. Yeah, probably.

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I would think so. I have felt like I had little

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like flutters before, like I could feel him a

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little bit. But now I can feel like actual sharp

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little kicks, which is crazy. Really? So does

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he have like feet and stuff now? Oh, yeah. I

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don't. He's had feet the whole time. Let's see.

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What are the updates for this week? Do you want

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to know something I don't understand? The development

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of a fetus. The body is basically there from

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the beginning. It's just a matter of like growing

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into it. Yeah. And like things move around and

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adjust and you start, you know, you have like

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hair all over your body and like fat all over

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your body. And he he has fingerprints now. That's

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what they say. Huh? Yeah. Wow. Don't commit any

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crimes, little August. I know. Get locked up

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in the baby jail. Yeah. I mean, there's nothing

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that really exciting this week other than the

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fingerprint thing, to be honest. We would be

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able to tell this week if he was a boy or a girl

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from an ultrasound, but we got the genetic testing

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done. So like the genetic testing tells you like

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if they have an X, Y or X or Y chromosome. Yeah.

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OK, so then. Well, everyone has one X, but if

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it's a double X or an X, Y. Right. Oh, yes. The

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second. Right. So why doesn't everyone just do

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that? It wasn't a common thing seven years ago.

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Really? At least in Louisiana. I don't know.

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It's weird because the moms I talk to up here

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are like, oh, yeah, I've done that for every

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pregnancy. And they like have kids Jack's age.

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But I was in Louisiana for this stage of my pregnancy

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last time. And like they didn't even offer it

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to me. Like it was not a. Interesting. They did

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genetic testing, but it was like to see if the

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baby had Down syndrome or if there, you know,

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anything genetically wrong with them that they

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can tell early on. Huh. Maybe they just didn't

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like think to use it for that thing, because

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like that in my mind, like that would be the

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first thing to check on that, I guess. I don't

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know. I don't know. Um, so they offered it to

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us this time and I was like, heck yeah. I think

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you should test all parts of the DNA to see if

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there's anything fucked up. Right. I'd rather

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just know. It's not like, like if he had Down

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syndrome or whatever, it's just like, I would

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want to know ahead of time. Sure. Prepare, you

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know? Anyway. Anyway. Nothing that exciting this

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week, hopefully. It stays that way. Honestly,

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I don't want anything exciting to happen. I think

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a boring pregnancy is probably like the ideal

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scenario, right? Yeah. Well. Thoughts and prayers

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for a boring pregnancy. Yeah, seriously. We'll

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see how he likes Cajun food next week. I'm so

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excited. So that being said, we are recording

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two episodes this week. So we'll see how we'll

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see how we start to act in the second episode,

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because I feel like that's where we're going

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to start to get a little delusional. Yeah, I'm

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going to be like running on fumes. So Emma's

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traveling next week, so I'm going to have to

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edit in her pregnancy update to next week's episode.

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But that means next week I'm going to have time

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to do a Let's Research Mama, which I'm very excited

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about. I think we should get into wind. You want

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to do wind? I want to do wind. I would really

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like to have a grasp on wind. We can do wind.

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I think. A concept. This doesn't have to be in

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the actual pod, but a concept would be you do

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a let's research and then try to explain it to

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me and then vice versa. OK. You know what I mean?

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So like next time I would do want to try to explain

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it to you from my research. OK. Knowing that

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we both didn't understand it to start. I love

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that. Yeah, I think we should do that. OK. I

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will delete my idea for Let's Research Mama next

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week. Oh, I didn't see what I just saw. I will

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have time for one. Do you not have the second

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bullet there? Oh, I can't read. I do want to

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talk about Jen Shaw, but that's like a whole

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other thing, because like. wind is something

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we don't understand we need to research to talk

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about it in any way shape or form but jen shaw

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i understand i just would like to know all the

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tea oh yeah that's like the deep dive i was gonna

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go down let's do that okay whatever you want

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okay but um yeah so i was gonna post a poll to

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see which one people were into because i want

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to do both eventually but um yeah i want to do

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Either the deep dive on like the Jen saw Jen

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Shaw saga or like all of the real housewives

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that have had run into with the law. Like and

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I just like want to do a deep dive on that. Yeah.

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Post a poll. I think I would vote for all of

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them because Jen Shaw can just be like a part

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of that. Yeah. I feel like scamming old people

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isn't necessarily that exciting. Oh, have you

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seen the documentary about it? No, because it

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is exciting. Why is there a documentary about

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Jen Shah? Don't they know how that will blow

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her head up? Oh, my God. Oh, she was mad about

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the documentary. So this is a couple of things.

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This documentary released the week before I think

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her trial was set to actually start. And I feel

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like this is probably why she ended up going

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to plead guilty. But the. like all she said was

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it turned me in it made me out to be this horrific

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monster of a person and like it didn't really

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focus a lot on like the other co -conspirators

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and the yeah thing so i do get why she was like

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why is it just me but i'm at the same time i'm

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like mama you were leading the whole song and

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dance i know it's like i understand she probably

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didn't do a lot of the work but it's like she's

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the figurehead it's like blaming the queen of

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england for political issues in england like

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that's kind of what she's there for sorry well

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that and like you were also probably the most

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horrific about it and like it was probably your

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idea truth be told yeah but alex said he wants

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to come on for it because he doesn't know anything

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about Any of the Real Housewives. And he's like,

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does it make it better if I don't know who Jen

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Shaw is? And I was like, a little bit. Kind of,

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yeah. I would love an attorney's two cents on

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all of the issues. I would too. Including Jen

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Shaw, for sure. So I wanted to share a fun story

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that I heard last week. And it's chaotic as hell.

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So just buckle up. There was a fire. in butler

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tarkington area last week i think somewhere yeah

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somewhere on the north side there was a house

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fire i have heard about so many house fires recently

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what is happening that everything is burning

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down well let me tell you i know one of them

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okay so um the one of the ladies that works at

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my doctor's office it like lives in this neighborhood

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across the street from where one of these house

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fires was and Nancy was at home and she was just

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living her life and she noticed smoke and she

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said, I'm going to call the fire department because

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something feels off about this much smoke. And

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then she runs over to a burning house and says,

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how how do we how do we navigate this situation?

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So I guess what happened was the mom, there's

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a mom, a dad and two daughters. The mom left

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to go. go to the grocery store while a smoker

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was running yeah and you know my dad's obsessed

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with a smoker so I am familiar I'm surprised

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it caused a fire though I'm not at all familiar

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I didn't know like I didn't know they could start

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fires I thought it was just smoke well well that's

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my thing that's why I'm surprised it started

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a fire because um they run at like very low temperatures

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compared to like a grill or a stove or something

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like that see that's what i always thought yeah

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they do it's a much lower temperature than maybe

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it was just too close to the house i don't know

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i mean it gets hot you can't touch it the how

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of the fire is the least chaotic piece of this

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story though so nancy sees the smoke and she's

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like let me let me go over let me just make sure

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everything's okay she goes into the house she

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is She opens the door and she goes in and there's

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like a full blown fire burning, like I guess

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like inside, like on the other side of the wall

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from where the smoker was like the smoke. The

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fire has like reached the inside. She's like

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rampaging to the house because she's freaking

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out. She's like, I have to get I assume the daughter's

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out of the house. So she like slams open one

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of the doors. There's a daughter who's deaf in

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one ear. Has has an air pod in the other ear.

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And you might say to yourself, couldn't she?

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Couldn't she smell the smoke? A fun fact. She

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has long COVID. She did not smell the smoke because

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the long COVID has impacted her sense of smell.

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The other daughter was sleeping in the bed, taking

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a nap. Can I tell you, I think that would be

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how if I couldn't smell or taste anything. That

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would be absolutely horrible. Because I remember

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having COVID and not being able to smell or taste.

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And it really does throw you off. Like, majorly.

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I guess I don't know what I would do with that.

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Because, like, what else do you have in life?

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I would get so skinny. Right. Truly. Anyway.

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So the other daughter was asleep in the bed.

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Because she needed a nap on this good day. So

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Nancy's on the phone with the mom being like,

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you have to get home. There's a fire raging in

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your house. And I guess the mom comes home and

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they're like the fire department shows up. They

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do their thing. And then Nancy's like, here,

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let me call the dad because the dad was at work.

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Yeah. The dad is on his way home. She's on the

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phone with him and she's like, you need to get

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home now because your house is like going up

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in flames. And the dad gets home, parks his car

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in the driveway, gets out of the car and decides,

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I'm going to pull attention from this situation.

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Has a heart attack in the front yard of this

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house. And this is the second time that day that

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Nancy had to call 911 to this home. Yeah. Long

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time no talk. And so the. At this point, the

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fire has been like put out. And I guess the fire

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inspector is doing like whatever a fire inspector

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does and like is checking the house. Yeah. This

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is the moment where people find out, oh, you

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must have at least one homeowner present while

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the fire inspector is doing his thing. So the

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mom couldn't go to a hospital with the dad. So

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he's just in the emergency room. I don't know

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where the daughters are at this point. And then

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the fire inspector like finishes what he's doing.

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And then as he's like walking out of the house

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and as the firefighters are leaving, the roof

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literally fucking collapses on their heads. I

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mean, listen, with a fire like that's not that

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surprising because you have to have supports

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up. And if those supports were ashes. Sure. Like

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that makes sense. Sure. Nancy, the American hero,

00:15:47.659 --> 00:15:50.539
says, come on, let's go over to my house. Let's

00:15:50.539 --> 00:15:57.419
let's figure out what to do next. And the mom

00:15:57.419 --> 00:15:59.200
looks at Nancy. I don't know where the daughters

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are at this point, but the mom looks at Nancy

00:16:01.179 --> 00:16:03.779
and goes, Nance, could you be a dear and get

00:16:03.779 --> 00:16:06.480
me a drink? I really I need a drink. Like, honestly,

00:16:06.860 --> 00:16:09.340
yeah. Go to the hospital with your husband who

00:16:09.340 --> 00:16:12.879
had a heart attack. I don't. if she could even

00:16:12.879 --> 00:16:14.679
remember at that point that her husband had a

00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:19.000
heart attack I mean you're not wrong like oh

00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:23.480
my god but Nancy proceeds to make a an old -fashioned

00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:25.580
with smoked bourbon because that felt like the

00:16:25.580 --> 00:16:27.899
right thing to do in that moment and what I do

00:16:27.899 --> 00:16:31.440
know is you know I'm not like I don't subscribe

00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:35.879
to a lot of like ghosts or like spooky stuff

00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:38.039
or whatever. But like, I do believe they need

00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:41.379
to call an Etsy witch, a shaman, a priest, something.

00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:44.179
They have got to at least sage that house. Get,

00:16:44.259 --> 00:16:47.440
get the demons out. There is a demon living on

00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:49.220
that property that did not want them to carry

00:16:49.220 --> 00:16:54.419
on. That is so insane. Yeah. That's so crazy.

00:16:54.539 --> 00:16:57.220
Thank God for Nancy. She has so much good karma

00:16:57.220 --> 00:16:59.279
coming her way. She's about to have the best

00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:01.399
year of her life. Like, can you imagine like,

00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:05.289
so you're, like rampaging through this house

00:17:05.289 --> 00:17:06.930
and like you're trying to like hold your shit

00:17:06.930 --> 00:17:09.089
together and then you look over and you're like

00:17:09.089 --> 00:17:12.309
how can all of this go wrong one thing after

00:17:12.309 --> 00:17:16.029
another I would feel like I'm the problem like

00:17:16.029 --> 00:17:18.970
I'm going crazy this is actually not happening

00:17:18.970 --> 00:17:22.890
like pinch me I'm dreaming right situation like

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and it's I it's I feel okay talking about it

00:17:26.650 --> 00:17:29.269
with some level of levity because everyone in

00:17:29.269 --> 00:17:33.140
this scenario is okay right now yeah But can

00:17:33.140 --> 00:17:38.420
you imagine like. No, because like with my neighbors,

00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:40.599
I try to just mind my own business. So I can't

00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:43.420
imagine being that far up their business because

00:17:43.420 --> 00:17:46.599
shit just keeps happening all day. Oh, my God.

00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:48.559
You're like, yeah, I guess let me get you a drink.

00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.720
Hang on. Yeah, I guess. Oh, my God. Do you want

00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:55.660
to ride to the hospital? Oh, my God. Oh, Lord.

00:17:57.099 --> 00:17:59.940
um well i guess one person was hurt and it was

00:17:59.940 --> 00:18:02.099
the guy who had a heart attack but sounds like

00:18:02.099 --> 00:18:05.380
he's okay well in the article it doesn't it doesn't

00:18:05.380 --> 00:18:07.660
even acknowledge that it was because of a heart

00:18:07.660 --> 00:18:09.579
attack it said he was injured in the fire which

00:18:09.579 --> 00:18:12.380
maybe the heart attack was a byproduct of the

00:18:12.380 --> 00:18:15.900
fire i feel like maybe they didn't know the full

00:18:15.900 --> 00:18:18.400
story and just like saw that someone was taken

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to the hospital and like assumed it was because

00:18:22.259 --> 00:18:26.140
of the fire Oh, maybe. That happens a lot with,

00:18:26.180 --> 00:18:28.740
like, big disasters. People just assume, like,

00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.759
anyone in the vicinity who got hurt was hurt

00:18:31.759 --> 00:18:34.680
because of that. I don't know. That's crazy.

00:18:35.059 --> 00:18:37.680
Also, like, what a juicy news story. I bet the

00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:39.380
reporter who got their hands on that was like,

00:18:39.460 --> 00:18:42.220
yes, Nancy, tell me what happened next. Well,

00:18:42.220 --> 00:18:43.420
but that's the thing. Nancy didn't even want

00:18:43.420 --> 00:18:45.480
to talk to the news as I'm sitting here, like,

00:18:45.539 --> 00:18:47.299
posting her business all over the internet. Oh,

00:18:47.299 --> 00:18:50.039
my God. But she was like, no, I don't want the

00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:52.359
attention. I was like, I'm going to call. channel

00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:54.940
13 and be like i have a story about an american

00:18:54.940 --> 00:18:58.140
hero for you i would be walking around in a wonder

00:18:58.140 --> 00:19:01.220
woman costume yeah like what do you mean oh my

00:19:01.220 --> 00:19:05.660
god do you have anything to complain about so

00:19:05.660 --> 00:19:08.599
much what what are you complaining about today

00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:12.180
let me ruminate on it how about you complain

00:19:12.180 --> 00:19:19.140
first i i have i have one that i don't know where

00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:24.660
to put this anger So there's a lot of racism

00:19:24.660 --> 00:19:27.000
surrounding Carnival Cruises right now that I've

00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:30.740
seen on TikTok. Racism? Yes, where people like

00:19:30.740 --> 00:19:34.640
so Carnival Cruises has the entire vibe of being

00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:40.700
the fun ship, right? Like and. I've seen like

00:19:40.700 --> 00:19:44.039
comments on TikToks where it's like Section 8

00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:49.150
Cruises or. The Nissan Altima of cruises, or

00:19:49.150 --> 00:19:51.289
I didn't know you could pay for a cruise with

00:19:51.289 --> 00:19:54.730
EBT, like just the most horrific, disgusting

00:19:54.730 --> 00:19:57.990
language around. I mean, they are the cheapest

00:19:57.990 --> 00:20:00.869
cruise line. Whatever. I don't care. Like, I

00:20:00.869 --> 00:20:04.329
don't care. But the part that bothers me is like,

00:20:04.349 --> 00:20:06.529
why are we making it about that when you see

00:20:06.529 --> 00:20:10.569
like a bunch of men and women of color out next

00:20:10.569 --> 00:20:13.380
to the pool? Having a good time dancing like

00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:16.180
that. I didn't know the context. I thought they

00:20:16.180 --> 00:20:19.460
were making a video saying Carnival Cruises,

00:20:19.500 --> 00:20:24.240
you know, are the Walmart version of a real cruise.

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They are saying that. But because of the clientele

00:20:28.859 --> 00:20:32.920
that is portrayed, by the way, I've been on what,

00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:35.039
five or six cruises in my life. Half of them

00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:38.380
have been on Carnival Cruises. I love Carnival

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Cruises. And like. the thing that bothers me

00:20:43.259 --> 00:20:45.059
is like why are we gonna make it about that why

00:20:45.059 --> 00:20:47.700
why does it have to be about like why does it

00:20:47.700 --> 00:20:50.160
have to become such an ugly ugly ugly thing that

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we're doing to people that are just having a

00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:55.180
good time because like you wouldn't do this if

00:20:55.180 --> 00:20:57.220
you were out at a bonfire singing like Brian

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fuck you and that is super weird I will say I

00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:05.619
don't know if you saw but like the train wreck

00:21:05.619 --> 00:21:10.680
series on Netflix dropped a documentary about

00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:15.859
the poop cruise so like carnival's pr is not

00:21:15.859 --> 00:21:19.319
great right now but let me just say if you're

00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.619
going on a cruise at all even on carnival you

00:21:22.619 --> 00:21:24.660
are spending thousands of dollars on a vacation

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like there's no reason to call these people broke

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first of all well that and like i also i want

00:21:31.220 --> 00:21:33.319
you to know that if i'm on a carnival cruise

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and I am out there in the middle of the ocean

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with an unlimited buffet and the unlimited drink

00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:42.640
package. They took away the unlimited drinks,

00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:44.400
too. I think that's where a lot of the hate is

00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:46.519
coming from, too, is they just took that away.

00:21:46.839 --> 00:21:49.000
They just changed that policy because people

00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.240
were getting throttled. Well, we'll revisit that.

00:21:53.950 --> 00:21:56.690
But if I am surrounded by people that are just

00:21:56.690 --> 00:22:01.390
having a good time and that's what's happening,

00:22:01.509 --> 00:22:04.150
just know that's exactly where I want to be.

00:22:04.309 --> 00:22:09.549
And fuck you for making it racist. Yeah. I hate

00:22:09.549 --> 00:22:11.329
that they're being racist about it. It's gross.

00:22:11.410 --> 00:22:13.990
I do understand hate towards Carnival Cruise

00:22:13.990 --> 00:22:16.170
Lines, but not because of their clientele. I

00:22:16.170 --> 00:22:18.930
can see some of the hate towards Carnival because

00:22:18.930 --> 00:22:22.170
I will say that... The way that they conduct

00:22:22.170 --> 00:22:25.470
business is not ideal in that they've covered

00:22:25.470 --> 00:22:29.970
up a lot of activity on the boats for like from

00:22:29.970 --> 00:22:34.430
some of their staff. They have they have mishandled

00:22:34.430 --> 00:22:38.289
a ton of situations. So I don't agree with like

00:22:38.289 --> 00:22:41.869
this. This is bad. Yes, it's really bad. We got

00:22:41.869 --> 00:22:44.190
the poop cruise documentary. We got them taking

00:22:44.190 --> 00:22:46.890
away unlimited drinks because people are getting

00:22:46.890 --> 00:22:50.119
too drunk. We got. All of that happening. So

00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:52.839
I feel like that's just feeding into it. So there's

00:22:52.839 --> 00:22:56.380
that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's so many ways

00:22:56.380 --> 00:22:58.599
to hate on Carnival Cruise Lines that has nothing

00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:01.480
to do with being racist towards their staff.

00:23:01.660 --> 00:23:04.420
Yeah. On a lighter note, did you see that kid

00:23:04.420 --> 00:23:10.950
who was singing? Keith Sweat. No, we talked about

00:23:10.950 --> 00:23:14.269
her. But obviously there's this little boy. He's

00:23:14.269 --> 00:23:17.349
probably like early 20s. He's not a teenager.

00:23:17.569 --> 00:23:20.690
He was singing Keith Sweat on a cruise. I think

00:23:20.690 --> 00:23:23.650
it was a carnival cruise. And he went viral like

00:23:23.650 --> 00:23:27.309
multiple times for doing it because it was so

00:23:27.309 --> 00:23:30.450
funny and cute. Good for him. Honestly, good

00:23:30.450 --> 00:23:34.150
for him. I think his name was Tyler. Yeah. Anyway.

00:23:35.690 --> 00:23:37.549
I'm not going to complain about anything today

00:23:37.549 --> 00:23:40.130
because I've had a long Fourth of July weekend.

00:23:40.250 --> 00:23:43.430
And I really can't think about anything else

00:23:43.430 --> 00:23:46.730
to complain about. But I'm not going to expose

00:23:46.730 --> 00:23:51.650
myself like that. Fair enough. Reality Roundup

00:23:51.650 --> 00:23:55.170
is going to be a long one today because we have

00:23:55.170 --> 00:23:59.470
three episodes of Secret Lives to cover. And

00:23:59.470 --> 00:24:03.269
then also Real Housewives of Orange County is

00:24:03.269 --> 00:24:06.220
coming back this week. It comes back. tomorrow

00:24:06.220 --> 00:24:10.740
I think as of the day of this recording um and

00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:12.180
I just want to say I'm really excited because

00:24:12.180 --> 00:24:16.059
Katie Janelle is back this season and I didn't

00:24:16.059 --> 00:24:17.859
know for sure at the end of last season if she

00:24:17.859 --> 00:24:20.180
was going to be back because some of the girls

00:24:20.180 --> 00:24:25.420
didn't love her and oh I've never watched Orange

00:24:25.420 --> 00:24:28.019
County I mean I have but like in passing I don't

00:24:28.019 --> 00:24:32.609
know who anyone is so Orange County is the hardest

00:24:32.609 --> 00:24:35.190
to watch for me. And it's I think it's getting

00:24:35.190 --> 00:24:39.670
better because they've moved away from this idea

00:24:39.670 --> 00:24:44.529
of like. It's and it's it's similar to what New

00:24:44.529 --> 00:24:46.410
York had to do to where they've moved away from

00:24:46.410 --> 00:24:48.809
this like whole I'm the OG thing, because I think

00:24:48.809 --> 00:24:51.069
that becomes very, very toxic very quickly. Like

00:24:51.069 --> 00:24:54.230
you had Ramona Singer and Sonia Morgan and Luann

00:24:54.230 --> 00:24:58.329
Deliseps on New York who people just. could not

00:24:58.329 --> 00:25:00.349
be around anymore, got so bad. And then it was

00:25:00.349 --> 00:25:03.190
the same way with Vicki Gunvalson on OC. And

00:25:03.190 --> 00:25:08.430
now that they've kind of reshaped the cast a

00:25:08.430 --> 00:25:10.549
little bit, I think it's becoming more watchable.

00:25:10.589 --> 00:25:16.089
But Katie was probably one of my favorite people

00:25:16.089 --> 00:25:19.170
on the show last year. And some of the girls

00:25:19.170 --> 00:25:22.250
didn't like her because I think she was a little

00:25:22.250 --> 00:25:25.089
too honest for some people's liking, which I

00:25:25.089 --> 00:25:27.309
really appreciated. But my favorite thing about

00:25:27.309 --> 00:25:30.670
her is that she follows me on TikTok. Oh, hi,

00:25:30.730 --> 00:25:33.609
Katie. Because I commented one time and said,

00:25:33.789 --> 00:25:36.549
or on someone's video, I don't remember whose

00:25:36.549 --> 00:25:37.950
it was, but I was like, I want to be friends

00:25:37.950 --> 00:25:39.529
with Katie Janela so bad because they were like,

00:25:39.589 --> 00:25:42.910
it was a clip about her. And she literally said,

00:25:42.990 --> 00:25:44.309
well, let's be friends. And then immediately

00:25:44.309 --> 00:25:47.829
followed me. And I was like, what a cool girl.

00:25:48.410 --> 00:25:50.750
She is a very cool girl. She's just so fucking

00:25:50.750 --> 00:25:53.730
cool. Appealing to the masses. Yeah. And I do

00:25:53.730 --> 00:25:56.849
need to catch up on Salt Lake City so that we

00:25:56.849 --> 00:26:00.049
can talk about season six and I'll know what's

00:26:00.049 --> 00:26:04.829
up and down. Well, so they they've started to

00:26:04.829 --> 00:26:07.029
talk. They've started to do a little bit of promo

00:26:07.029 --> 00:26:09.970
for it. So I feel like it's coming back in September

00:26:09.970 --> 00:26:12.309
just based on like how they've done in previous

00:26:12.309 --> 00:26:17.109
years. Well, it has to come on like late this

00:26:17.109 --> 00:26:21.519
year. I would assume. I hope so. I. Can't wait.

00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:25.680
I'm so excited. I want to be back. Whitney Rose

00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:27.940
does say something to the effect of like, it's

00:26:27.940 --> 00:26:32.119
a very weird season. Like, I don't know what

00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.359
to do with that, but I'm kind of excited. Yeah.

00:26:34.980 --> 00:26:40.440
Hmm. Yeah. OK. Cool. Period. Are you ready to

00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:44.279
jump into the secret lives of Mormon wives? Yes.

00:26:44.940 --> 00:26:49.929
OK. Episode six, the Book of Redemption. Yeah,

00:26:49.929 --> 00:26:52.829
this is the one that really, like, got me to

00:26:52.829 --> 00:26:57.430
feel for Jen. Okay, I will give you that because

00:26:57.430 --> 00:27:02.069
at the beginning of this episode, Whitney and

00:27:02.069 --> 00:27:03.450
Jen are supposed to ride to the airport together.

00:27:04.509 --> 00:27:06.750
Jen's not picking up the phone. And so Whitney

00:27:06.750 --> 00:27:08.650
goes to Jen's house and she's like, what's going

00:27:08.650 --> 00:27:12.369
on? And Jen answers the door like she had just

00:27:12.369 --> 00:27:15.509
gotten out of bed. That's the thing, like. That

00:27:15.509 --> 00:27:18.289
really got me. I feel like you can see it in

00:27:18.289 --> 00:27:22.670
her face, in her eyes, in her body that she's

00:27:22.670 --> 00:27:27.549
depressed. Like she needs actual help and assistance.

00:27:27.710 --> 00:27:34.150
Like she's not doing well. Right. So Whitney

00:27:34.150 --> 00:27:36.750
goes in and she's like, and what I do appreciate

00:27:36.750 --> 00:27:39.970
about Whitney is that she's a friend like. like

00:27:39.970 --> 00:27:41.890
i am like you are like some of the other people

00:27:41.890 --> 00:27:43.289
we know where it's just like i'm gonna force

00:27:43.289 --> 00:27:44.970
my way into this house and you're going to deal

00:27:44.970 --> 00:27:46.730
with me being here for a minute because i am

00:27:46.730 --> 00:27:50.089
worried about you yeah like i need i need to

00:27:50.089 --> 00:27:54.750
know if you're like okay right yeah whitney goes

00:27:54.750 --> 00:27:58.190
in and she's the house is a mess house is a wreck

00:27:58.190 --> 00:28:01.130
she's talking through like hey okay so like what's

00:28:01.130 --> 00:28:03.609
going on and then like jen opens up a little

00:28:03.609 --> 00:28:07.329
bit whitney's This is where I started to turn

00:28:07.329 --> 00:28:10.529
for Whitney, where I was just like, oh, you're

00:28:10.529 --> 00:28:14.730
an incredible friend. This is her shiniest moment,

00:28:15.089 --> 00:28:19.089
I will say. Yeah, I agree. I ended the whole

00:28:19.089 --> 00:28:23.829
season on being like, I don't really care about

00:28:23.829 --> 00:28:26.369
Whitney one way or another, but this was a good

00:28:26.369 --> 00:28:29.109
moment for her. 100%. Someone needed to show

00:28:29.109 --> 00:28:35.150
up for Jen, for sure. She even goes as far as

00:28:35.150 --> 00:28:37.289
to start cleaning up the house. And I was like,

00:28:37.329 --> 00:28:40.329
how? That's really fucking sweet. Well, yeah,

00:28:40.390 --> 00:28:43.170
she's like cleaning up the cereal bowl. And I

00:28:43.170 --> 00:28:47.329
also feel like poor Jen. I know. I know that

00:28:47.329 --> 00:28:50.049
she's like a liar and whatever, but like. But

00:28:50.049 --> 00:28:52.910
two things can be true at the same time. She

00:28:52.910 --> 00:28:56.490
says like, oh, yeah, that bowl of cereal is there

00:28:56.490 --> 00:28:58.930
because that's the only thing I can eat, which

00:28:58.930 --> 00:29:02.940
tells me she's also. throwing up she has morning

00:29:02.940 --> 00:29:05.880
sickness she's not feeling well pregnancy oh

00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.619
i didn't even think about that yeah so like on

00:29:08.619 --> 00:29:12.119
top of not being mentally okay she's physically

00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:17.779
not okay right and like i've seen sorry now i've

00:29:17.779 --> 00:29:22.440
seen so many videos and pictures of her just

00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.319
like in the bed like i think she spent a lot

00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.000
of her time in this season of life in her bed

00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.369
sure and like I've seen pictures of like her

00:29:33.369 --> 00:29:37.170
kids visiting her in her bed because like she

00:29:37.170 --> 00:29:40.789
can't even get up, which is sad. I don't know.

00:29:40.829 --> 00:29:44.049
I feel for her. I feel I don't want anyone to

00:29:44.049 --> 00:29:50.549
be depressed. Yeah. That for me, though, doesn't

00:29:50.549 --> 00:29:54.349
change every other one of her actions. And so

00:29:54.349 --> 00:29:56.470
I like that's where I can say two things can

00:29:56.470 --> 00:30:00.519
be true at the same time where I want. you to

00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:04.460
be okay I also don't want you to lie to yourself

00:30:04.460 --> 00:30:07.440
your husband and the rest of the world I would

00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:09.380
love if two of those things could happen together

00:30:09.380 --> 00:30:13.619
yeah I will say I think when you're depressed

00:30:13.619 --> 00:30:18.019
and like just not doing well yourself it's hard

00:30:18.019 --> 00:30:21.180
to like take accountability for things and be

00:30:21.180 --> 00:30:24.200
like oh well this part of my life is also fucked

00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:29.309
up sorry you know and I know that like Intuitively,

00:30:29.309 --> 00:30:32.349
we know that like that would make it easier on

00:30:32.349 --> 00:30:34.789
her if she would just go apologize because then

00:30:34.789 --> 00:30:38.269
relationships would be mended. Oh, sure. Like

00:30:38.269 --> 00:30:40.690
when you're in it, it's so hard to see that,

00:30:40.789 --> 00:30:47.630
you know. I agree. The girls get to Scott's jail

00:30:47.630 --> 00:30:52.269
and these girls love a party bus. I feel like

00:30:52.269 --> 00:30:55.289
that's also they went to the school of Real Housewives

00:30:55.289 --> 00:30:59.180
for that. So. Something that I did find out is

00:30:59.180 --> 00:31:04.039
that I guess Hulu took or poached a bunch of

00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:06.460
producers from Bravo and like there was like

00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:09.859
a mass exodus. That's where you got Vanderpump

00:31:09.859 --> 00:31:12.950
Villa. That's where you got. some other reality

00:31:12.950 --> 00:31:14.650
show. And that's where you got the Secret Lives

00:31:14.650 --> 00:31:16.930
of Mormon Wives. Like it is a shot for shot,

00:31:17.029 --> 00:31:19.490
almost remake of the format of Real Housewives.

00:31:19.730 --> 00:31:22.089
Yeah, because that felt very Real Housewives

00:31:22.089 --> 00:31:24.349
to me. I don't feel like any of them had ever

00:31:24.349 --> 00:31:28.450
been in a party bus before. No, no, no, no. Whitney

00:31:28.450 --> 00:31:30.049
tries to get on the stripper pole, but apparently

00:31:30.049 --> 00:31:35.829
her cut's not healed yet. Yeah, yeah. And I didn't.

00:31:36.109 --> 00:31:37.970
So one of the girls was like, oh, no, no, no,

00:31:37.970 --> 00:31:39.690
you're inside. Your inside's not healed yet.

00:31:39.730 --> 00:31:45.140
And I was like, what? Yeah. No. So, okay. Six

00:31:45.140 --> 00:31:47.720
weeks after you have a baby is the first time

00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.799
you can exercise. Okay. Or have sex or anything

00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.460
like you are not to do shit for six whole weeks.

00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:58.720
But even after that, there's still healing to

00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:02.099
be done. They say your body is not fully healed

00:32:02.099 --> 00:32:06.480
from having a baby for three years. That's fucking

00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:11.259
wild. But like. A lot of shit happens like your

00:32:11.259 --> 00:32:15.160
abs. Don't they like separate? Yeah. Yeah. And

00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:16.920
that takes time to come back together. Sometimes

00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:20.220
they never come back together. It's a whole thing.

00:32:20.259 --> 00:32:22.779
But yeah, they say like you can you can be healing

00:32:22.779 --> 00:32:25.359
for like three years. And even after you're like

00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:27.880
cleared after six weeks, I feel like, yeah, you

00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.400
probably shouldn't be on the pole. Probably not.

00:32:31.819 --> 00:32:34.180
They get to the house. Macy's 100 percent being

00:32:34.180 --> 00:32:36.680
sponsored by Poppy. Like that's that's the most

00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.359
evident marketing. I've ever seen in my life.

00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:44.200
Get your bag, queen. What I do appreciate about

00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.059
these girls is the way that they go about selecting

00:32:47.059 --> 00:32:50.819
rooms because not one of them has an ego about

00:32:50.819 --> 00:32:52.160
it. They're like, I'll sleep here. I'll sleep

00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:54.119
in the bunk bed. I don't care. Like, whatever.

00:32:54.420 --> 00:32:56.779
They're all very chill. There is no I've never

00:32:56.779 --> 00:33:00.059
seen any real housewife be chill about their

00:33:00.059 --> 00:33:03.789
room. Oh, anything. I've. I've only ever, it's

00:33:03.789 --> 00:33:06.650
only ever bothered me on New York where Ramona

00:33:06.650 --> 00:33:09.150
Singer will chase people through a house being

00:33:09.150 --> 00:33:10.549
like, no, I want this room. I want this room.

00:33:10.589 --> 00:33:13.210
I want this room. Oh, it bothered me on Potomac

00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:15.950
too. That's like, they would talk about it for

00:33:15.950 --> 00:33:19.130
days with what room they're in. Let me just tell

00:33:19.130 --> 00:33:22.269
you, if I've got a bed, I don't know that I care.

00:33:22.950 --> 00:33:25.849
I will sleep on the couch. I really don't give

00:33:25.849 --> 00:33:28.509
a shit. Yeah. But like. Bravo is paying for my

00:33:28.509 --> 00:33:31.460
vacation. Hello. Right. But these girls were

00:33:31.460 --> 00:33:35.519
very cool about it. So that was fine. They go

00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:37.559
downstairs for dinner. The dinner looked really,

00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:39.559
really, really good. Oh my God, didn't it? Yes.

00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:44.160
Like it looks so good. Yeah. And this is where

00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:50.920
Whitney's a little bit desperate. And she leads

00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.660
a prayer with the group. And she says, Dear Heavenly

00:33:53.660 --> 00:33:56.759
Father, thank you for bringing the. mom talk

00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:58.880
family together and everyone looks at her and

00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:02.779
i'm like you know what you're doing like stop

00:34:02.779 --> 00:34:06.559
like just like if you just if you you're on the

00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:10.500
show right you're ostensibly part of mom talk

00:34:10.500 --> 00:34:14.260
like you you you know a couple of the girls in

00:34:14.260 --> 00:34:17.300
this group really really hate you maybe stop

00:34:17.300 --> 00:34:19.880
pushing it and maybe it just stops being an issue

00:34:20.809 --> 00:34:24.170
It gets so much worse. It only gets worse. I

00:34:24.170 --> 00:34:27.789
know. Yeah. You've watched it, but like, yeah,

00:34:27.929 --> 00:34:31.130
she is kissing feet and kissing ass for sure.

00:34:31.530 --> 00:34:34.829
And I just don't understand. I don't understand.

00:34:35.110 --> 00:34:37.650
It wouldn't be an issue if you didn't make it

00:34:37.650 --> 00:34:40.929
an issue. Right. But on the other side of that,

00:34:41.070 --> 00:34:46.820
Michaela is such a rotten cunt about. Yeah, I

00:34:46.820 --> 00:34:49.360
don't know why she thinks like the meaner I am,

00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:51.599
the less likely it'll be for Whitney to stay.

00:34:51.820 --> 00:34:55.139
I don't understand. I don't even think she cares

00:34:55.139 --> 00:34:57.980
about like her meanness pushing Whitney. I think

00:34:57.980 --> 00:34:59.579
she really is just like, I'm just going to be

00:34:59.579 --> 00:35:01.960
mean to her. I am only here to be mean to her.

00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.739
Well, I think that she thinks if she's mean to

00:35:04.739 --> 00:35:07.300
her, it'll get her out of mom talk. And it's

00:35:07.300 --> 00:35:11.360
like, clearly that's not working. Obviously.

00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.639
They're having dinner and then Jesse's first

00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:19.039
instinct is to run to get the truth box. They

00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.900
love a truth box. I really need them to stop.

00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.739
If you have shit to get off your chest, just

00:35:25.739 --> 00:35:30.539
say it, sister. Oh, my God. Well, it's that and

00:35:30.539 --> 00:35:34.599
it's like has to be fair. This one does go better

00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:36.340
than like the rest of them. But I'm like, has

00:35:36.340 --> 00:35:39.440
this ever worked out in your favor? well it's

00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.219
like i just don't understand why like they just

00:35:42.219 --> 00:35:44.880
love this anonymous confession thing and it's

00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:49.659
like just say it with your chest i oh anyway

00:35:49.659 --> 00:35:54.639
i don't know um a question comes up about the

00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.139
size of jordan's dick oh i could have done without

00:35:58.139 --> 00:36:01.380
this like the this is and this is something i'm

00:36:01.380 --> 00:36:06.019
going to say about everything and everyone I

00:36:06.019 --> 00:36:08.480
don't care how big your partner's dick is. It's

00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:11.820
truly, I could not care less. I hope you're happy

00:36:11.820 --> 00:36:14.639
with it. I don't care if it's a micro penis.

00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:19.099
I don't care if it is the size of my leg. I mean,

00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.940
to be fair, she didn't bring it up. Someone else

00:36:21.940 --> 00:36:23.539
brought it up. She had a picture waiting with

00:36:23.539 --> 00:36:25.869
a ruler next to it. Well, I think it had been

00:36:25.869 --> 00:36:28.630
like a common joke. Like people have been saying

00:36:28.630 --> 00:36:32.489
it for some time. Yeah. And so she like had it

00:36:32.489 --> 00:36:34.769
locked and loaded and ready. Right. But like,

00:36:34.769 --> 00:36:37.309
why are you guys so obsessed with this weird

00:36:37.309 --> 00:36:40.110
man's dick? I don't understand that either. I

00:36:40.110 --> 00:36:43.989
agree. And I'm just like, maybe if you just.

00:36:44.460 --> 00:36:46.780
I don't know. And like, I get some of it's for

00:36:46.780 --> 00:36:51.119
the show, but like. Ew. I could have done without

00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.739
that. They give very like middle school, high

00:36:54.739 --> 00:36:59.340
school girls who are like giggly and obsessed

00:36:59.340 --> 00:37:02.400
with the novelty of sex. And I'm like, I wish

00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:08.860
you guys would grow up. Yes, I agree. But I will

00:37:08.860 --> 00:37:11.480
say with Jesse and I know that we have. done

00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:14.239
nothing but be obsessed with jesse i do on some

00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.639
level appreciate she was like no fuck you it's

00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:19.880
not it's not small yeah i didn't i didn't need

00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.639
the whole song and dance yeah maybe that was

00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.539
a step too far i just think both sides should

00:37:25.539 --> 00:37:30.900
shut up it's yeah um then the sinner sunday confession

00:37:30.900 --> 00:37:35.059
comes up about um brett allegedly hooking up

00:37:35.059 --> 00:37:37.139
with someone else while demi was out of town

00:37:37.139 --> 00:37:41.409
and i have a theory about this Jimmy started

00:37:41.409 --> 00:37:43.630
a burner account to submit that center Sunday

00:37:43.630 --> 00:37:47.429
confession. And that's how she got a storyline

00:37:47.429 --> 00:37:50.909
this season. I believe that because I don't know

00:37:50.909 --> 00:37:53.130
that there's anything else going on like for

00:37:53.130 --> 00:37:57.349
her, except for hating Taylor. And maybe this

00:37:57.349 --> 00:38:00.750
cheating scandal happened. I don't know. I mean,

00:38:00.829 --> 00:38:03.710
I don't know. I do feel like she's desperate

00:38:03.710 --> 00:38:08.860
for a storyline, but. And she's so egotistical

00:38:08.860 --> 00:38:12.360
that I don't see her like throwing herself under

00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.739
the bus for it. Oh, I think she would cut her

00:38:14.739 --> 00:38:19.159
nose off to spite her face anytime. Really? 100%.

00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.780
I don't see that for her. I think she's too narcissistic.

00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:27.969
Maybe. But I don't know. And then we hear about

00:38:27.969 --> 00:38:31.409
Demi basically being willing to throw or Jesse

00:38:31.409 --> 00:38:35.190
off the show for more money. Exhibit A. Right.

00:38:35.309 --> 00:38:37.429
And then she gets a confessional about the situation

00:38:37.429 --> 00:38:39.309
where she talks about Jesse having the whole

00:38:39.309 --> 00:38:42.610
hair empire, which means she has money. And I

00:38:42.610 --> 00:38:44.650
was like, oh, you're that girl. You don't want

00:38:44.650 --> 00:38:45.929
anyone else to have anything. And if someone

00:38:45.929 --> 00:38:47.670
has more than you, it's you're not OK with it.

00:38:47.690 --> 00:38:51.050
You're that girl. Oh, 100 percent. That is Demi.

00:38:51.070 --> 00:38:54.389
It only gets worse. She is such a snake bitch.

00:38:55.050 --> 00:38:58.849
Oh my God. I could not believe my ears. Just

00:38:58.849 --> 00:39:02.269
because Jesse has money does not mean she's not

00:39:02.269 --> 00:39:07.449
entitled to the income she should receive from

00:39:07.449 --> 00:39:09.690
being on the show or being in MomTalk or whatever.

00:39:10.110 --> 00:39:14.030
You are jealous and you are weird. And by the

00:39:14.030 --> 00:39:16.809
way, I don't give a fuck how much money anyone

00:39:16.809 --> 00:39:21.239
has. I don't care. I don't care at all. And it

00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:25.340
bothers me that you think it's selfish that Jesse's

00:39:25.340 --> 00:39:27.599
on the show and she's also like independently

00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:31.199
wealthy of the show. And you think that she's

00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:34.139
taking too much of the pie like that. That to

00:39:34.139 --> 00:39:38.119
me really bothers me. And like if that bothers

00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:42.030
you about Jesse. Why don't you look within and

00:39:42.030 --> 00:39:44.809
see that like you want that for yourself and

00:39:44.809 --> 00:39:47.769
start your own business outside of mom talk like

00:39:47.769 --> 00:39:50.730
Jesse? I just don't understand that. And like

00:39:50.730 --> 00:39:53.969
it's like going to a job and being like, well,

00:39:54.090 --> 00:39:56.230
I should make more money because I come from

00:39:56.230 --> 00:40:00.369
nothing. And she has family money like she's

00:40:00.369 --> 00:40:02.469
a trust fund baby. I know we're doing the same

00:40:02.469 --> 00:40:05.969
job, but she should make less. That's the equivalent

00:40:05.969 --> 00:40:08.789
of what she's doing. And that is fucking weird.

00:40:08.929 --> 00:40:11.900
Right. And this is where I started to turn. Well,

00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:13.699
actually, I think this is where I fully turned

00:40:13.699 --> 00:40:15.619
on Demi. Like, this is where I immediately stopped

00:40:15.619 --> 00:40:17.980
liking her because I was just like, oh, you are

00:40:17.980 --> 00:40:23.320
not a good person. She's a snake. Yes. Next morning,

00:40:23.460 --> 00:40:27.139
girls go to breakfast and Whitney tries to talk

00:40:27.139 --> 00:40:31.699
to Macy about saying that she doesn't I guess

00:40:31.699 --> 00:40:34.739
she doesn't regret going or not going to the

00:40:34.739 --> 00:40:38.699
baby mama launch. Because she wouldn't have known

00:40:38.699 --> 00:40:43.840
how to fix it had she not taken made that choice.

00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:46.800
The logic that I understand what she was trying

00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:50.300
to say. I do, too. But I think she just missed

00:40:50.300 --> 00:40:53.619
the crucial part of saying that she's sorry.

00:40:53.780 --> 00:40:56.559
Just say you fucked up. It's OK. Like, it's OK.

00:40:56.820 --> 00:40:59.579
But she's like dying on this hill of I didn't

00:40:59.579 --> 00:41:02.079
fuck up. I was looking out for myself, blah,

00:41:02.179 --> 00:41:03.780
blah, blah. But you're missing the point of like.

00:41:04.429 --> 00:41:07.809
you looked out for yourself to the point of not

00:41:07.809 --> 00:41:10.889
showing up for your friends. Right. You could

00:41:10.889 --> 00:41:13.590
have shown up and not talk to a soul except for

00:41:13.590 --> 00:41:16.110
Macy. Sure. And I also think it's weird of you

00:41:16.110 --> 00:41:19.550
to bring this up. The morning Macy is like hosting

00:41:19.550 --> 00:41:21.869
this big pickleball tournament and just wants

00:41:21.869 --> 00:41:25.230
like good vibes. Oh, I didn't even think about

00:41:25.230 --> 00:41:27.170
that. I think Macy was just, or I'm sorry. I

00:41:27.170 --> 00:41:30.369
think Whitney was just like, I have to go say

00:41:30.369 --> 00:41:33.420
something now. And like, I, it, It was bad timing,

00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:35.699
100%. But like, I think that she didn't even

00:41:35.699 --> 00:41:39.340
think about. Which also is problematic. That

00:41:39.340 --> 00:41:41.500
is a common theme with her, though. She does

00:41:41.500 --> 00:41:45.599
not think of anyone except for Whitney. I agree.

00:41:45.980 --> 00:41:51.500
It's like, girl, you're doing what you're apologizing

00:41:51.500 --> 00:41:56.000
in air quotes for again right now. You're taking

00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:58.920
her moment and you're making it about you. Right.

00:42:00.059 --> 00:42:03.900
Oh, sorry. So they kind of just agree to disagree

00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:08.699
and like move on. And Macy's an angel. She can't

00:42:08.699 --> 00:42:11.400
hold a grudge. Macy can do no wrong. She's so

00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:16.239
perfect. I love her. I feel like. Michaela is

00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.320
really going out of her way to be just hateful,

00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:21.719
as hateful as the day is long to Whitney. And

00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:26.480
I get frustrated. I sit, wait. No, because Whitney

00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:30.179
like slams her hands on the table. Oh, because

00:42:30.179 --> 00:42:32.119
she's like, let's fucking talk about it. Okay.

00:42:32.380 --> 00:42:36.170
Yeah. Okay. So I see why Whitney got to that

00:42:36.170 --> 00:42:38.090
point. I think that's what Michaela is trying

00:42:38.090 --> 00:42:40.869
to do. Michaela is gaslighting Whitney. Michaela

00:42:40.869 --> 00:42:44.070
is trying to provoke her. So she can say, look,

00:42:44.130 --> 00:42:46.630
this is the girl we know. This is the girl we

00:42:46.630 --> 00:42:49.170
know. Exactly. A hundred percent. That is what

00:42:49.170 --> 00:42:50.929
Michaela has been trying to do this whole time.

00:42:51.110 --> 00:42:54.090
Right. Because if Whitney starts spiraling and

00:42:54.090 --> 00:42:57.440
crashing out, she can be like, see. She doesn't

00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.719
belong here. Right. She's she's too volatile

00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:02.440
for the. OK, so dear listener, what you just

00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:05.360
listen to is like a fragmented chain of thought.

00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:09.980
So Whitney starts slamming her hands on the table

00:43:09.980 --> 00:43:11.860
because like the girls are like, we all have

00:43:11.860 --> 00:43:13.980
a problem with you. We have or Michaela is like,

00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:15.980
we all have a problem with you. And then that's

00:43:15.980 --> 00:43:17.780
when Whitney's just like, well, let's bring it

00:43:17.780 --> 00:43:19.539
out. And then that's how we get to this point

00:43:19.539 --> 00:43:22.860
of I'm pushing you to this point. I don't know

00:43:22.860 --> 00:43:24.980
if it's fully on purpose, but I think she's not.

00:43:25.420 --> 00:43:28.260
She's not mad about it getting there. Oh, I do.

00:43:28.340 --> 00:43:30.320
I think that's why she's been so mean to her.

00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:32.579
I think she's saying the most hateful things

00:43:32.579 --> 00:43:35.219
she can think of to Whitney at every turn to

00:43:35.219 --> 00:43:37.719
try to provoke her into crashing out. Maybe.

00:43:37.780 --> 00:43:39.739
Because she wants to point the finger at Whitney

00:43:39.739 --> 00:43:46.300
and be like, banish her. Okay. I don't know that

00:43:46.300 --> 00:43:49.000
that's the truth. I just feel like from watching

00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:52.099
that that's the vibe I get from Michaela. Right.

00:43:53.099 --> 00:43:54.880
This entire time, did you ever say to yourself,

00:43:55.059 --> 00:43:58.639
where's Taylor? No, I knew she wasn't going to

00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:00.780
go. I thought they talked about it. No, she was

00:44:00.780 --> 00:44:03.599
in the bed. She was asleep in the bed. And she's

00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:10.500
like, I heard. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's like, I

00:44:10.500 --> 00:44:14.380
was in the bed. I have three children. I wanted

00:44:14.380 --> 00:44:16.739
some sleep. I never get a chance to sleep. So

00:44:16.739 --> 00:44:19.760
I slept in. That is so fucking funny. I thought

00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:22.260
that was so kind. Can you imagine? So like a

00:44:22.260 --> 00:44:24.960
camera crew shows up early in the morning and

00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:28.019
like everyone's getting at least a little bit

00:44:28.019 --> 00:44:31.420
like ready, awoken to like be on camera. And

00:44:31.420 --> 00:44:36.159
you're just like, no, go back to sleep. I love

00:44:36.159 --> 00:44:38.260
that. I want to hear the story of the cameraman.

00:44:39.130 --> 00:44:41.809
And the producer that were assigned to Taylor

00:44:41.809 --> 00:44:46.489
that day, because the Real Housewives have talked

00:44:46.489 --> 00:44:49.710
a lot about this. We're like when when a scene

00:44:49.710 --> 00:44:51.550
is starting, there's there's lighting. There's

00:44:51.550 --> 00:44:54.070
like a whole thing. There's there's camera. There's

00:44:54.070 --> 00:44:55.730
a sound guy. I know they didn't have to Mike

00:44:55.730 --> 00:44:58.210
Taylor for this, obviously. But like, I want

00:44:58.210 --> 00:45:02.530
to know what the I assume production assistant

00:45:02.530 --> 00:45:04.670
and the cameraman were just like standing there

00:45:04.670 --> 00:45:10.039
being like, did we wake her up? Like in my mind's

00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:13.179
eye, I like to picture her just being like, no,

00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:16.139
I'm going back to sleep. I like to imagine her

00:45:16.139 --> 00:45:19.260
being like, you guys can hang out. I'm going

00:45:19.260 --> 00:45:22.440
to be here. Whatever you want. Unconscious. Yeah.

00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:26.139
I think that that is beautiful. And as someone

00:45:26.139 --> 00:45:30.099
who's had a baby. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. What's

00:45:30.099 --> 00:45:32.079
the point of a vacation if you still can't fucking

00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:37.829
sleep? I agree. We go back to Jen's house in

00:45:37.829 --> 00:45:40.510
Utah where she's depressed as fuck and she's

00:45:40.510 --> 00:45:43.349
in the bed and it does not like it does not look

00:45:43.349 --> 00:45:45.090
like she's been out of the bed for days and it

00:45:45.090 --> 00:45:46.610
does not look like she's getting out of bed anytime

00:45:46.610 --> 00:45:50.530
soon. I look up props to Zach because you can't

00:45:50.530 --> 00:45:52.849
do that without someone supporting you, taking

00:45:52.849 --> 00:45:55.710
care of the kids. Right. I think that I'd be

00:45:55.710 --> 00:45:58.170
worried about how Zach is like being a dad in

00:45:58.170 --> 00:46:00.690
that scenario. But I also think like, you know

00:46:00.690 --> 00:46:03.210
what? whatever we need to do i guess he's their

00:46:03.210 --> 00:46:05.710
dad regardless so like yeah he'll figure it out

00:46:05.710 --> 00:46:10.469
to do but yeah um it is sad it is really sad

00:46:10.469 --> 00:46:14.389
and then that's where we find out that production

00:46:14.389 --> 00:46:18.559
decided to stop filming with jen because I think

00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.579
they sensed that it was really that bad. Yeah,

00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:22.860
and, like, what is there to film? You have a

00:46:22.860 --> 00:46:26.260
depressed pregnant lady who is taken to the bed.

00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:29.199
She is taken to the bed. And, like, even if she

00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:33.159
did get up and, like, did you think, like, you

00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:36.920
don't want this depressing storyline also of,

00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:38.679
like, a pregnant lady who's trying to pick herself

00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.639
back up. Like, that's not. Right. You don't need

00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:45.079
to film that. No. You know. I agree. So we get

00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:49.460
to Macy's pickleball. pickleball tournament and

00:46:49.460 --> 00:46:54.420
celebrity is a term we're using loosely for yeah

00:46:54.420 --> 00:46:59.579
for the hosts because i forgot who joey fatone

00:46:59.579 --> 00:47:04.739
was yeah i couldn't the part that got me is that

00:47:04.739 --> 00:47:07.880
i couldn't pin him when i saw him initially because

00:47:07.880 --> 00:47:11.699
he's gotten so old i if you wouldn't have put

00:47:11.699 --> 00:47:14.320
up the chiron of his name i Done to my head.

00:47:14.380 --> 00:47:17.780
I had no idea. I couldn't even pin him. But,

00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:21.199
I mean, maybe for a pickleball tournament. I

00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:25.679
don't know. That's a celebrity. It's not like

00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:32.820
an F1 race or something. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I

00:47:32.820 --> 00:47:35.969
do think. It was cute. It was cute. And I do

00:47:35.969 --> 00:47:37.949
what I think it was really cool that the girls

00:47:37.949 --> 00:47:40.269
all showed up and they were they were very excited

00:47:40.269 --> 00:47:43.010
to support her. Yeah, I think that was really,

00:47:43.070 --> 00:47:44.969
really cool. And like, I think Macy probably

00:47:44.969 --> 00:47:47.110
had a really good time. I think she was probably

00:47:47.110 --> 00:47:50.030
she deserved that to have eyes on her and like

00:47:50.030 --> 00:47:52.449
do her little thing. Absolutely. It was cute.

00:47:53.170 --> 00:47:57.829
The girls go to dinner and. And then Whitney

00:47:57.829 --> 00:48:00.449
decides her strategy to deflect the hate for

00:48:00.449 --> 00:48:03.409
her is to bring up the Demi trying to get Jesse

00:48:03.409 --> 00:48:09.250
fired situation. And she literally says, I want

00:48:09.250 --> 00:48:11.190
the tea. I want the deeds. Like, let's get some

00:48:11.190 --> 00:48:14.210
of the heat off of me. Yeah. She's like, so I

00:48:14.210 --> 00:48:16.769
heard a little inkling last night. Can someone

00:48:16.769 --> 00:48:20.250
tell me the full story there? Yeah. And don't

00:48:20.250 --> 00:48:25.320
bring me into it. Demi says that it's not a shock

00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:28.239
that she was the fan favorite. And I feel like

00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:29.920
I need to go back and watch season one because

00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:34.239
I don't remember Demi from season one. I think

00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:37.159
she made that up. I don't think there was a poll

00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:41.420
and she won. I think she made that up for herself.

00:48:41.539 --> 00:48:44.420
I think she saw so many tweets of like, oh, I

00:48:44.420 --> 00:48:48.860
love Demi. She's so pretty. And like decided,

00:48:48.980 --> 00:48:52.860
declared herself. the fan favorite can i be honest

00:48:52.860 --> 00:48:55.920
about something lost me in that moment oh 100

00:48:55.920 --> 00:49:01.059
the best part about demi is her hot husband yeah

00:49:01.059 --> 00:49:04.159
i think she's hot too okay no i wish she would

00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.559
just like sit there and shut up she's i don't

00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:09.639
find her to be interesting i don't find her to

00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:14.500
be enjoyable to watch i haven't seen her be like

00:49:14.500 --> 00:49:19.780
a kind caring friend no You know, even when she's

00:49:19.780 --> 00:49:22.039
with Jesse, like her best friend on the show.

00:49:22.099 --> 00:49:23.559
No, because she tried to get her kicked off the

00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:25.360
fucking show. She doesn't give a fuck about Jesse.

00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:27.480
Are you kidding? But I'm like, that's the person

00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:29.079
she's closest to on the show. And I've still

00:49:29.079 --> 00:49:32.039
never seen her just be like genuinely nice and

00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:34.920
caring to her. Well, this comes out later that.

00:49:35.550 --> 00:49:37.750
yeah apparently jesse and demi have only been

00:49:37.750 --> 00:49:40.610
friends for like a year or two yeah they didn't

00:49:40.610 --> 00:49:43.909
even know each other like that so i have a feeling

00:49:43.909 --> 00:49:46.690
that demi might be one of these girls and we

00:49:46.690 --> 00:49:49.289
know some a couple of people like this where

00:49:49.289 --> 00:49:51.730
you become friends with them and then they they're

00:49:51.730 --> 00:49:53.050
like you're my best friend and you've known them

00:49:53.050 --> 00:49:59.070
for like 17 minutes and yeah i think that's who

00:49:59.070 --> 00:50:02.619
we're dealing with here but i just Oh, I don't

00:50:02.619 --> 00:50:07.119
like her anyway. And then Taylor says, hang on

00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.119
a minute. The show exists because of me. And

00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:11.900
I love that they break the fourth wall here.

00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:16.119
Like, I think that's really amazing. Layla starts

00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:19.500
to jump in to defend Demi because why not? And

00:50:19.500 --> 00:50:22.199
Taylor's just like, you can defend her when I'm

00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:26.679
done talking. And I. I love Taylor when she's

00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:28.500
like, I'm going to set a boundary and you're

00:50:28.500 --> 00:50:30.500
not going to walk over me. Yeah, because I feel

00:50:30.500 --> 00:50:32.760
like she's been good about that this season,

00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.980
especially about like she's not taking all of

00:50:36.980 --> 00:50:39.719
the claims. She's not like making everything

00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:43.179
about herself. But in this moment, Demi crossed

00:50:43.179 --> 00:50:45.400
the line and she's like, OK, hold up. Wait. Yeah.

00:50:45.460 --> 00:50:49.139
None of you would be here if I did not gather

00:50:49.139 --> 00:50:53.610
you here. Right. Like. And I'm glad she stood

00:50:53.610 --> 00:50:57.250
on that. That and like and I do believe this

00:50:57.250 --> 00:51:00.489
about Taylor is that she's not the girl that's

00:51:00.489 --> 00:51:02.429
like, I have to have all the brand deals. I have

00:51:02.429 --> 00:51:04.349
to have X, Y and Z. Like, I do believe Taylor

00:51:04.349 --> 00:51:08.190
is who she says she is, where she's like, I just

00:51:08.190 --> 00:51:11.179
like. I've got a lot going on. And I do feel

00:51:11.179 --> 00:51:14.099
like she's happy for the other girls when they

00:51:14.099 --> 00:51:17.239
do get opportunities and do cool things. Demi,

00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:20.179
on the other hand, not happy for fucking anyone,

00:51:20.380 --> 00:51:22.820
including Taylor, who is the one who got her

00:51:22.820 --> 00:51:25.860
there. I agree. But the long and short of it

00:51:25.860 --> 00:51:28.500
is Demi is just a bad friend. And she basically

00:51:28.500 --> 00:51:30.539
says that Jesse isn't as valuable to the show

00:51:30.539 --> 00:51:32.599
as the other girls. And Macy starts to recognize

00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:36.719
that Demi is an asshole. Yeah. You have Angel.

00:51:37.819 --> 00:51:41.960
Macy being like, yeah, I don't think she's a

00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:44.539
good person. Macy, by the way, who's willing

00:51:44.539 --> 00:51:47.260
to forgive Whitney for being rotten as fuck.

00:51:47.460 --> 00:51:50.780
Yeah. She can find the silver lining in just

00:51:50.780 --> 00:51:52.900
about anyone. Like, come on. I think she wants

00:51:52.900 --> 00:51:55.519
to. I don't think she wants to be like on a hate

00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.260
train towards anyone. But Demi was so bad and

00:51:59.260 --> 00:52:03.420
problematic that even Macy is like, oh, no. Right.

00:52:05.210 --> 00:52:07.909
the girls go out to a club to dance but not drink

00:52:07.909 --> 00:52:14.230
and i sure whatever i feel like i i get it you're

00:52:14.230 --> 00:52:16.849
mormon i get it i i don't need to hear about

00:52:16.849 --> 00:52:18.250
how you don't drink all the time i don't care

00:52:18.250 --> 00:52:21.690
i don't care if anyone drinks on the show but

00:52:21.690 --> 00:52:24.570
you you hear it though when they're like we don't

00:52:24.570 --> 00:52:26.710
drink and it's like the virgin mocktails and

00:52:26.710 --> 00:52:28.510
it's like this and i'm like i don't care like

00:52:28.510 --> 00:52:32.539
it it feels like you're telling it so like It

00:52:32.539 --> 00:52:36.440
would be like me putting on that show so my granny

00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:38.820
thinks I don't drink. Right. That's what it feels

00:52:38.820 --> 00:52:40.840
like to me. Who are you proving it to? Are you

00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:42.539
worried your family is going to see you went

00:52:42.539 --> 00:52:45.340
to a club and assumed you drank? If you don't

00:52:45.340 --> 00:52:47.800
drink, you don't drink. Who gives a fuck? You

00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:50.099
don't need to keep saying it. Right. I do, however,

00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:52.699
feel like I could have fun at a club with Whitney

00:52:52.699 --> 00:52:56.099
and Macy. They do look... Whitney looks like...

00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:58.659
She does let it all go. She'll dance. She'll

00:52:58.659 --> 00:53:01.179
have fun. I think she's fun. I do think they

00:53:01.179 --> 00:53:04.300
had a good old time. They get home and they go

00:53:04.300 --> 00:53:07.780
to skinny dip in the hot tub. Brett gets on the

00:53:07.780 --> 00:53:10.239
phone with Demi and I was like, ooh, maybe I

00:53:10.239 --> 00:53:12.360
don't like Brett as much as I thought I did because

00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:15.440
he was like, you're not going to be skinny dipping

00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.900
like this, that, and the other. And Miranda,

00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:21.139
I appreciate, was like, oh yeah, I skinny dip

00:53:21.139 --> 00:53:23.019
before. I skinny dip all the time. I don't care

00:53:23.019 --> 00:53:26.119
if my pussy's out. I fucking love her and I love

00:53:26.119 --> 00:53:29.119
her so much. It was weird because I did feel

00:53:29.119 --> 00:53:31.519
like Demi would have gone skinny dipping if not

00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:35.440
for Brett. But I also understand like having

00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:38.000
a boundary in your relationship of like, OK,

00:53:38.099 --> 00:53:40.900
you're on this show and like you share your whole

00:53:40.900 --> 00:53:45.420
life. Can you just not be naked? I can get that.

00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:50.880
I felt like she knew she needed to ask permission

00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:52.280
of him, though, and that's why she called him.

00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:56.539
Yeah. Yeah, I have a feeling that's how most

00:53:56.539 --> 00:53:58.960
of their relationship goes. But I don't know.

00:53:59.420 --> 00:54:02.059
Yeah, I had the benefit of the doubt where I

00:54:02.059 --> 00:54:05.019
was like, maybe it's not a permission thing.

00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:09.860
Maybe it's just a like. Almost like damage control,

00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:11.739
but I don't even mean it like that. It's like

00:54:11.739 --> 00:54:15.219
if you think your partner might be upset about

00:54:15.219 --> 00:54:17.760
something and so you call them just to get their

00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:21.210
maybe two cents on it. I don't know. I don't

00:54:21.210 --> 00:54:24.070
know. But yeah, it did give very weird vibes.

00:54:25.010 --> 00:54:27.369
Especially with how the other girls took it.

00:54:27.469 --> 00:54:29.949
Because they were all like, oh, you're not going

00:54:29.949 --> 00:54:33.710
to go because of your husband? Hmm. So I wonder

00:54:33.710 --> 00:54:35.650
if there's something we're not seeing. Maybe.

00:54:35.710 --> 00:54:39.969
Between them, too. Yeah. I also feel like getting

00:54:39.969 --> 00:54:41.630
in the pool with your tits out is not skinny

00:54:41.630 --> 00:54:43.869
dipping. It's not. What they did was not skinny

00:54:43.869 --> 00:54:46.230
dipping. They were all wearing underwear. Right.

00:54:46.429 --> 00:54:48.949
There was nothing blurred out. Well, their boobs.

00:54:49.409 --> 00:54:54.010
Yeah. But I was like, you've never been skinny

00:54:54.010 --> 00:54:55.809
dipping if you think that this is skinny dipping.

00:54:56.070 --> 00:54:59.989
Right. I 100 % buy it. Miranda's been skinny

00:54:59.989 --> 00:55:02.670
dipping. I do know that about her to be the truth.

00:55:02.789 --> 00:55:04.550
I think she probably thought it was silly goofy.

00:55:04.710 --> 00:55:06.849
They were all keeping their underwear on. I think

00:55:06.849 --> 00:55:09.829
she said, oh, OK, if you guys are not taking

00:55:09.829 --> 00:55:13.909
your pussies out, I guess I won't. OK. So maybe

00:55:13.909 --> 00:55:17.309
at one point production was like, hey, no holes.

00:55:18.269 --> 00:55:24.150
Maybe. I don't know. So we get to episode seven,

00:55:24.409 --> 00:55:28.849
the book of gratitude. So last day in Scottsdale,

00:55:29.030 --> 00:55:31.889
the girls are doing tick tocks and we find out

00:55:31.889 --> 00:55:33.710
Layla's planning a Friendsgiving, but she doesn't

00:55:33.710 --> 00:55:38.469
know who she's inviting. And Whitney asks if

00:55:38.469 --> 00:55:40.550
she's officially back in mom talks. So the girls

00:55:40.550 --> 00:55:44.190
vote Whitney and Taylor vote. Yes. Demi, Michaela

00:55:44.190 --> 00:55:48.309
and Macy vote no or at least not yet. Can I tell

00:55:48.309 --> 00:55:52.050
you? Please. It is my absolute nightmare for

00:55:52.050 --> 00:55:56.530
my group of friends to take a vote on if I can

00:55:56.530 --> 00:56:00.630
be in our group of friends. That is nightmare

00:56:00.630 --> 00:56:05.289
fuel. And I would rather fucking die. OK, so

00:56:05.289 --> 00:56:08.170
this is one of the point five percent of times

00:56:08.170 --> 00:56:09.610
where you and I don't agree, because the way

00:56:09.610 --> 00:56:12.909
that I would love it, I feel like I love the

00:56:12.909 --> 00:56:15.230
drama. I love the mess. Like, I love it. But

00:56:15.230 --> 00:56:20.210
but but but but. I also don't feel like I would

00:56:20.210 --> 00:56:23.969
ever let a train wreck of a friendship in a group

00:56:23.969 --> 00:56:26.630
get to the point where my friends feel like they

00:56:26.630 --> 00:56:33.530
have to vote me in or out. Yeah, I I just had

00:56:33.530 --> 00:56:36.949
a hard time with that. I live to be accepted.

00:56:37.269 --> 00:56:40.619
I don't want to know. I mean. That's not even

00:56:40.619 --> 00:56:42.980
true. I want to know people's bad opinions of

00:56:42.980 --> 00:56:45.659
me. I don't want to know if you think that I

00:56:45.659 --> 00:56:47.719
should be included in something or not. Right.

00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.260
Just tell me, like, just tell me you don't want

00:56:49.260 --> 00:56:55.360
me there. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I also thought

00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:59.800
it was weird of Demi a little bit to vote no,

00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:02.960
especially after she was just done crashing out.

00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:07.900
And it's like, Demi, come on. I do like that

00:57:07.900 --> 00:57:10.719
Macy like I felt like Macy was just standing

00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:14.019
with Michaela and voting not yet because she

00:57:14.019 --> 00:57:15.920
hadn't seen that growth from Whitney, especially

00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:20.260
after Whitney did a non apology for the baby

00:57:20.260 --> 00:57:22.880
mama thing the day before. I think if that conversation

00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:24.800
had gone differently, Macy would be like, I'm

00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:30.800
all in. Yeah. But I mean, yeah, it's icky. It

00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.380
was icky. The girls go back home and Jesse goes

00:57:34.380 --> 00:57:36.659
over to Demi's house. I didn't pay a bit of attention

00:57:36.659 --> 00:57:40.420
to this scene. Like, whatever. They didn't like

00:57:40.420 --> 00:57:42.619
air anything out. Jesse was just like, yeah,

00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:45.900
we've talked about this already. Yeah. And I

00:57:45.900 --> 00:57:48.500
was just like, yeah, OK. I disassociated the

00:57:48.500 --> 00:57:51.380
whole time. I didn't like it one bit because

00:57:51.380 --> 00:57:54.639
I wish. Jesse would have taken that opportunity

00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:57.980
to be like hey what the fuck by the way right

00:57:57.980 --> 00:58:00.059
right right but apparently they had already like

00:58:00.059 --> 00:58:02.480
talked about it in between seasons one and two

00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:06.559
and like she didn't want to rehash mama is reality

00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.760
tv that's the name of the game you must rehash

00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:13.940
you must let the world see your problems yeah

00:58:13.940 --> 00:58:19.250
um taylor goes over to dakota's airbnb with that

00:58:19.250 --> 00:58:23.050
fucking go -yard bag she loves that go -yard

00:58:23.050 --> 00:58:27.530
bag yeah also why are all these people living

00:58:27.530 --> 00:58:29.750
in airbnbs you've got jen living in airbnb you've

00:58:29.750 --> 00:58:32.190
got dakota like who else is living in an airbnb

00:58:32.190 --> 00:58:35.170
right now i don't know i don't know if that's

00:58:35.170 --> 00:58:40.010
like they're how they're renting maybe i don't

00:58:40.010 --> 00:58:41.690
know it all seems strange i feel like you would

00:58:41.690 --> 00:58:44.929
have to pay out the nose I also wonder if like

00:58:44.929 --> 00:58:47.550
maybe they live somewhere else and they're renting

00:58:47.550 --> 00:58:52.530
an Airbnb to film. Maybe because they do do that

00:58:52.530 --> 00:58:58.349
on The Real Housewives 2. Yeah. Yeah. Dakota

00:58:58.349 --> 00:59:01.030
doesn't have baby wipes. You talked about this

00:59:01.030 --> 00:59:05.610
before. I have a real issue with dads acting

00:59:05.610 --> 00:59:09.920
in ways moms never would. Well, Taylor also didn't

00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:12.400
have baby wipes in that moment, so. Well, like,

00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:16.679
she was dropping her kid off. So, like, you shouldn't

00:59:16.679 --> 00:59:20.760
have to bring the essentials with you. I feel

00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:22.780
like if you're going to have a co -parenting

00:59:22.780 --> 00:59:25.099
relationship, listen, I'm not in their relationship,

00:59:25.260 --> 00:59:28.280
so I can't say, but I feel like if I were in

00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:31.000
a co -parenting relationship, the only things

00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:34.280
that have to move back and forth are like the

00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:36.840
toys and blankets and whatever that your kid

00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.360
is obsessed with and needs every single day.

00:59:39.719 --> 00:59:43.079
I don't, I feel like both parents should have

00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:47.780
diapers, wipes, food, clothes, all of those things.

00:59:48.699 --> 00:59:52.420
On deck at their house at all times. I agree.

00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:56.760
I just. That's fair. I mean, yeah, I don't know.

00:59:56.820 --> 01:00:00.039
It just made me feel like, what are we doing?

01:00:00.099 --> 01:00:03.039
That baby sat in shit for so long, too. That's

01:00:03.039 --> 01:00:04.840
all I could see while I was watching it. I was

01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.679
like, is someone going to step in here? Anyway,

01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:12.679
moving on. We get to a scene with Demi and Layla.

01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:15.739
I guess Layla and Cam got into a knockdown drag

01:00:15.739 --> 01:00:19.199
out fight. So she's. flying solo flying solo

01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:22.420
at friendsgiving yeah and i get that like she

01:00:22.420 --> 01:00:24.159
doesn't want to do that because i'm also the

01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:27.480
single guy at everything so like i get where

01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:30.360
she's coming from with it like it's hard i get

01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:34.019
that it's it's fine it's it's hard if you're

01:00:34.019 --> 01:00:37.619
insecure about it well yeah and i feel like if

01:00:37.619 --> 01:00:41.780
she were just like like you're fully single you

01:00:41.780 --> 01:00:43.760
know what I mean but she just like had a falling

01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:45.820
out that's fair with the guy she was seeing and

01:00:45.820 --> 01:00:47.739
so you're like seeing all these happy couples

01:00:47.739 --> 01:00:51.239
and knowing like you're having issues I think

01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:55.440
that's hard too right and it's her event and

01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:58.860
she was like I'm finally gonna you know be coupled

01:00:58.860 --> 01:01:01.139
up and it's gonna be my event we're gonna kind

01:01:01.139 --> 01:01:03.480
of host together well i think she's completely

01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:06.219
valid in everything she's saying like i i won't

01:01:06.219 --> 01:01:07.539
take any of that away from her and like i do

01:01:07.539 --> 01:01:09.880
get like it's like i think for me it's like weddings

01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:11.679
when i go to weddings and i'm just like oh god

01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:13.780
like everyone else is here and it's about love

01:01:13.780 --> 01:01:19.639
and like yeah yeah i get that it's fair um i

01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:21.679
guess leila invited whitney to friendsgiving

01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.760
but isn't sure about inviting jen which I don't

01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:26.300
think it matters if you invite her. She's not

01:01:26.300 --> 01:01:28.699
going to show up because she's in the bed. Yeah.

01:01:29.059 --> 01:01:35.260
I mean, I don't think anyone, no one's entitled

01:01:35.260 --> 01:01:37.900
to an olive branch, right? You don't have to

01:01:37.900 --> 01:01:42.519
extend that if you don't want to. Right. And

01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:45.860
then Demi says that she feels like Taylor is

01:01:45.860 --> 01:01:48.820
triggered by her success. The biggest evidence

01:01:48.820 --> 01:01:51.760
of projecting I've ever seen. Put it in the textbook.

01:01:52.019 --> 01:01:54.659
Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up, Demi. You're

01:01:54.659 --> 01:01:57.059
intimidated by Taylor. And so you have flipped

01:01:57.059 --> 01:01:59.920
that into saying Taylor is intimidated by you.

01:02:00.099 --> 01:02:05.039
Yes. That is so mentally ill of you. Yes. That's

01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.360
insane. Like what you're saying is insane. Get

01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:10.599
a grip, girl, because I see right through everything

01:02:10.599 --> 01:02:15.219
you're saying. Right. But also, why do you need

01:02:15.219 --> 01:02:16.760
someone to be triggered by your success? Why

01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:18.739
can't everyone just be successful? Why can't

01:02:18.739 --> 01:02:21.559
that be okay? I think she's one of those people

01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:24.800
where she like doesn't realize that there's space

01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:29.199
for everyone to do well and succeed. She feels

01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.349
like there's a pot. And everything's being taken

01:02:32.349 --> 01:02:34.889
out of it before she can grab. That's not what's

01:02:34.889 --> 01:02:37.829
happening. Life is a zero sum game for her. Yes.

01:02:37.869 --> 01:02:41.670
She feels like anything anyone else is getting

01:02:41.670 --> 01:02:45.409
is something she didn't get. Exactly. And that

01:02:45.409 --> 01:02:49.289
is such a toxic and juvenile way to think. I

01:02:49.289 --> 01:02:55.090
agree. Michaela and Macy go to the car wash and

01:02:55.090 --> 01:02:57.809
I could have fucking done without finding out

01:02:57.809 --> 01:03:01.469
Michaela is. scared of the fucking car wash my

01:03:01.469 --> 01:03:08.969
god my god what is that like whatever whatever

01:03:08.969 --> 01:03:13.510
i don't want to chomp on people's my whole body

01:03:13.510 --> 01:03:16.769
tenses up when people chew so like whatever no

01:03:16.769 --> 01:03:19.690
no no no that's not the same thing that's not

01:03:19.690 --> 01:03:24.480
the same thing i just are you Are you a child?

01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:27.960
Are you Max? Like, are you my dog? Can you not

01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:33.179
12 pound dog? Can you not. Listen to the man,

01:03:33.260 --> 01:03:35.760
go, go, go right, go left, like whatever the

01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:39.019
case may be. And then. Are you afraid you're

01:03:39.019 --> 01:03:41.340
going to get stuck? I don't understand what you're

01:03:41.340 --> 01:03:43.599
afraid of. Are you just doing this for attention,

01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:49.260
Michaela? And then they start to talk about baking

01:03:49.260 --> 01:03:52.500
and apparently. Baking is a huge part of Mormon

01:03:52.500 --> 01:03:58.079
culture. And that's great. Michaela is going

01:03:58.079 --> 01:04:01.139
to start baking sourdough only to be Whitney's

01:04:01.139 --> 01:04:03.739
sourdough. And I was just like, I didn't I could

01:04:03.739 --> 01:04:05.320
have gone without knowing that, too, because

01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:09.159
that really, really screams you need to grow

01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:12.460
the fuck up. She's just Whitney's living in your

01:04:12.460 --> 01:04:18.719
head. Rent free, girl. Rent fucking free. So

01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:20.719
then Demi and Brett go to the baking store. I

01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:22.500
also could have done without that scene. I like

01:04:22.500 --> 01:04:25.239
there was a lot about baking in this in this

01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:27.199
episode. I could have done without all of it.

01:04:27.420 --> 01:04:31.400
But I loved the end of it when the audio kept

01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:34.519
recording. Oh, yeah. I totally forgot about that.

01:04:36.300 --> 01:04:41.480
So. they like so they go and they buy like dick

01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:44.099
sprinkles for cake i guess i don't fucking know

01:04:44.099 --> 01:04:47.420
and they leave and then the cameras go down and

01:04:47.420 --> 01:04:49.099
then brett just keeps saying you know i never

01:04:49.099 --> 01:04:51.400
shoot on you like you know in a million years

01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:53.659
and then demi we're talking about that in the

01:04:53.659 --> 01:04:57.039
store demi brought up like oh the silly little

01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:00.039
sinner sunday thing but it does feel like you're

01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.239
a little bothered when i bring it up and i i

01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:07.440
don't understand why you're bothered And it absolutely

01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:10.579
happened. And then the camera stopped rolling.

01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:12.400
The audio kept going. He was like, you know,

01:05:12.460 --> 01:05:14.179
I never do that. Right. You know, I never cheat

01:05:14.179 --> 01:05:20.420
on you. That is a guilty man. Okay. If you wouldn't

01:05:20.420 --> 01:05:22.639
have ever done it. Right. Why didn't you tell

01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:26.000
me? It's okay. We're cool. That's what I'm saying.

01:05:26.139 --> 01:05:30.300
And I can kind of understand like. defending

01:05:30.300 --> 01:05:32.539
your relationship to be like i really don't want

01:05:32.539 --> 01:05:34.460
you to think i did that because i know that that

01:05:34.460 --> 01:05:36.860
would really hurt you and like that didn't happen

01:05:36.860 --> 01:05:39.940
it's just an unnecessary strife we would have

01:05:39.940 --> 01:05:43.190
to go through if you believe that right But that's

01:05:43.190 --> 01:05:45.829
not the way he was talking. He was like, I need

01:05:45.829 --> 01:05:47.929
to shut it down. I need to like make it go away.

01:05:48.090 --> 01:05:50.309
Like, yeah, I need to know that she knows how

01:05:50.309 --> 01:05:52.110
they can happen. So like we appear as a united

01:05:52.110 --> 01:05:55.389
front. So when it does come up again, she's saying

01:05:55.389 --> 01:05:57.489
my, my husband would never do that. That's what's

01:05:57.489 --> 01:06:00.329
happening here. 100%. Because like, if Kenny

01:06:00.329 --> 01:06:03.199
came home today and was like, I heard this rumor

01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:05.000
that you were cheating on me. I would be like,

01:06:05.059 --> 01:06:09.460
okay. Okay. Show me the proof. Please. Yeah.

01:06:09.539 --> 01:06:11.739
Because like, you just don't, I mean, you don't

01:06:11.739 --> 01:06:14.699
have to get emotional over something that isn't

01:06:14.699 --> 01:06:18.679
real. I just, yeah. Right. He really dug his

01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:21.630
own grave there. We get back to Michaela's house

01:06:21.630 --> 01:06:24.590
where Michaela has hired someone to show her

01:06:24.590 --> 01:06:26.849
how to bake fucking sourdough to beat Whitney

01:06:26.849 --> 01:06:29.130
in the bake -off. I'm so fucking over her. Can

01:06:29.130 --> 01:06:31.250
I just tell you, I know a thing or two about

01:06:31.250 --> 01:06:36.110
sourdough. There are millions of tutorials on

01:06:36.110 --> 01:06:40.750
TikTok, on YouTube, on the internet, Sally's

01:06:40.750 --> 01:06:45.699
Baking Addiction, etc. Where you can learn how

01:06:45.699 --> 01:06:48.860
to make sourdough. Sure. Not fucking hard. You

01:06:48.860 --> 01:06:51.699
don't need someone to come to your house. I.

01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:56.639
I understand part of this was probably just for

01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:59.599
the show of like, I'm going to go so far to beat

01:06:59.599 --> 01:07:02.800
Whitney. Yeah. But like at a certain point, I'm

01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:09.019
like. Who is this for? It's not for you. Yeah,

01:07:09.059 --> 01:07:11.500
like you're clearly not enjoying yourself. This

01:07:11.500 --> 01:07:14.440
man is not enjoying himself. I don't understand

01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:17.880
it. Whitney and Connor are there. My God, there's

01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.219
more baking content. I've I've written baking

01:07:20.219 --> 01:07:22.480
in these notes so many times. Whitney and Connor

01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:25.519
are baking and Zach shows up because Whitney's

01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:28.420
worried about Jen. She's crying and in the bed

01:07:28.420 --> 01:07:30.119
every day and apparently it's getting worse.

01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:33.019
And Zach said or Zach's doing the right thing

01:07:33.019 --> 01:07:36.739
by defending his wife. But she's also a liar.

01:07:37.019 --> 01:07:40.360
So. You're defending a liar. I don't know what

01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:42.699
to tell you. I mean, a liar who is also your

01:07:42.699 --> 01:07:46.079
wife and who is also, you know. And I think that

01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:50.119
Zach is doing the right thing, but like. I don't

01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:52.659
know. I think once you know someone's like really

01:07:52.659 --> 01:07:54.239
going through it, you have to give them a little

01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:58.840
bit of grace. And it's not like she. The lies

01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:03.059
she told hurt herself and herself only at the

01:08:03.059 --> 01:08:10.059
end of the day. Lying to. lying to Zach only

01:08:10.059 --> 01:08:13.039
hurts her at the end of the day because he's

01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:15.780
bound to find out that she knew. Sure. It doesn't

01:08:15.780 --> 01:08:17.420
hurt Demi. It doesn't hurt Jesse. It doesn't

01:08:17.420 --> 01:08:19.619
hurt any of the guys who did the Chippendales

01:08:19.619 --> 01:08:23.899
things. So, like, I do think it's nice that they

01:08:23.899 --> 01:08:26.680
gave her a little bit of grace in this time period

01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:32.720
to, like, get back on her feet mentally. I agree.

01:08:35.500 --> 01:08:40.939
The cease and desist. Oh, my God. So I guess

01:08:40.939 --> 01:08:43.680
Demi is going out of her way to get a cease and

01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:47.600
desist out against. Jen and Zach. Is it? OK,

01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:51.479
so. Oh, yeah, it's Jen and Zach to not talk about

01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:55.590
whatever is going on from her past. And. that

01:08:55.590 --> 01:08:57.949
to me specifically what happened at vanderpump

01:08:57.949 --> 01:09:01.810
villa she doesn't want jen to send to spread

01:09:01.810 --> 01:09:06.550
her side of the story oh so let me let me tell

01:09:06.550 --> 01:09:09.850
you something about something that i know about

01:09:09.850 --> 01:09:13.550
a cease and desist is you only get a cease and

01:09:13.550 --> 01:09:20.250
desist written if you are in the wrong about

01:09:20.250 --> 01:09:24.420
something Or if you have a copyright or if you

01:09:24.420 --> 01:09:27.680
have a patent and someone is infringing on that.

01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:30.779
If you have a real legal reason for that, that's

01:09:30.779 --> 01:09:33.159
different. That's a different thing. But we're

01:09:33.159 --> 01:09:34.920
talking about cease and desist on people talking.

01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:40.399
And you only do a gag order. You only get an

01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:43.380
injunction on someone speaking if you don't want

01:09:43.380 --> 01:09:46.619
the truth out. Right. There is no other reason

01:09:46.619 --> 01:09:51.039
because if she were spreading incorrect things,

01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:54.319
you would let her and then you would charge her

01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:58.090
with defamation. because if it's not true and

01:09:58.090 --> 01:09:59.689
you can prove it's not true because there are

01:09:59.689 --> 01:10:02.229
cameras audio and everything from vanderpump

01:10:02.229 --> 01:10:05.329
villa you're getting a check mama for defamation

01:10:05.329 --> 01:10:08.270
of character but you know it's true right so

01:10:08.270 --> 01:10:11.050
you're doing a preemptive cease and desist which

01:10:11.050 --> 01:10:17.850
for me like and i understand the legalities behind

01:10:17.850 --> 01:10:21.859
some of this right for me though I'm just like,

01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:23.840
oh, you've never once thought about the optics

01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:26.699
of anything other than how you want to look.

01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:29.100
So like you believe that you're going to throw

01:10:29.100 --> 01:10:32.199
out a cease and desist. And then what do you

01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:33.920
think is going to come of that? Tell me how you

01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:36.659
think that's going to shake out for you. It's

01:10:36.659 --> 01:10:38.739
almost as if she thought the cease and desist

01:10:38.739 --> 01:10:41.960
would have included that they can't talk about

01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:45.720
the cease and desist. No, that's not how that

01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:49.359
works. That would be an NDA, mama. They're not

01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:57.539
signing that. God. Layla goes to Swig. And something

01:10:57.539 --> 01:10:59.939
that was really triggering for me is that Layla

01:10:59.939 --> 01:11:01.800
was able to go in and order a fucking drink.

01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:04.439
Why the fuck can't we do that in Indy? I don't

01:11:04.439 --> 01:11:07.720
know. I really don't know. I have been craving

01:11:07.720 --> 01:11:10.079
a Swig all day, though. Maybe we should go, too.

01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:13.619
Let's go to Swig. Did you know? Oh, I did already

01:11:13.619 --> 01:11:17.180
tell you this. At Sonic, you can get a dirty

01:11:17.180 --> 01:11:20.300
soda. Oh, yeah. But also at Sonic, you can like

01:11:20.300 --> 01:11:22.800
do whatever you, it's basically a swig if you

01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:25.739
make it your own swig. Oh yeah. I never thought

01:11:25.739 --> 01:11:29.539
about that. That's so beautiful. I have a Sonic

01:11:29.539 --> 01:11:31.760
like two seconds from my house and I also have

01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:36.380
a Wawa going in two seconds from my house. I'm

01:11:36.380 --> 01:11:39.699
happy. I'm really happy for you. My baby's first

01:11:39.699 --> 01:11:47.560
words are going to be Wawa. Yeah. Oh, Cam. Yeah,

01:11:47.699 --> 01:11:50.619
Cam. Yes, I forgot Cam was there. I could have

01:11:50.619 --> 01:11:53.239
done without that, too. I honestly liked it.

01:11:53.300 --> 01:11:58.000
I thought that he was really, like, calm and

01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:01.279
pleasant with her. But this is also the scene

01:12:01.279 --> 01:12:05.920
where Layla's tape and extensions show so badly

01:12:05.920 --> 01:12:08.880
that someone should have said something and they

01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:14.380
just didn't, which is so messed up. I do think

01:12:14.380 --> 01:12:18.420
that I respected Cam for how he approached this

01:12:18.420 --> 01:12:22.520
conversation. I felt like he wanted to preserve

01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:24.840
their relationship. He wanted to tell his side

01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:28.439
of the story. And he felt like his feelings weren't

01:12:28.439 --> 01:12:31.119
being reciprocated. And Layla said she was like,

01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.500
oh, yeah, no, I do that. I'm scared I'm going

01:12:33.500 --> 01:12:36.340
to get hurt type of thing. That's OK. That's

01:12:36.340 --> 01:12:40.949
fair. I'll give her that. I could. I don't. I

01:12:40.949 --> 01:12:43.869
think we had to have that conversation for Cam

01:12:43.869 --> 01:12:48.989
to reenter the show. Maybe. Maybe. Kind of. Because,

01:12:49.050 --> 01:12:51.189
like, if he would have just come back after not

01:12:51.189 --> 01:12:53.029
being at Friendsgiving and that whole thing,

01:12:53.050 --> 01:12:54.989
then, like. That would have been weird. Yeah.

01:12:55.350 --> 01:12:59.229
Yeah. Dakota and some man are playing basketball.

01:12:59.350 --> 01:13:01.729
I disassociated for this entire scene. I have

01:13:01.729 --> 01:13:05.170
no idea what happened. I feel. OK, so his friend

01:13:05.170 --> 01:13:09.649
was telling him, like. hey you have a kid now

01:13:09.649 --> 01:13:12.750
so like whatever's going on between you and taylor

01:13:12.750 --> 01:13:15.890
you need to put that kid first and also like

01:13:15.890 --> 01:13:19.689
you guys are in this toxic cycle i think he did

01:13:19.689 --> 01:13:23.590
actually call them like toxic and he kind of

01:13:23.590 --> 01:13:27.510
told dakota to get out of it okay which i respected

01:13:27.510 --> 01:13:30.170
as well good for him i don't remember it that

01:13:30.170 --> 01:13:32.470
well either i just remember being like yes friend

01:13:32.470 --> 01:13:38.539
tell him If you can hear Jack in the back, I'm

01:13:38.539 --> 01:13:42.520
sorry. No, I love it. We get to Friendsgiving.

01:13:43.119 --> 01:13:45.060
This event actually looks really, really fucking

01:13:45.060 --> 01:13:49.060
cool. I like the vibe. I like all of it. Yeah,

01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:52.340
it was cute. Layla's sister shows up, and she's

01:13:52.340 --> 01:13:55.220
so fucking pretty. The genetics in that family

01:13:55.220 --> 01:13:58.890
are insane. Oh, yeah. Insane. but kayla shows

01:13:58.890 --> 01:14:01.210
up she's baked a bunch of shit like there's a

01:14:01.210 --> 01:14:04.090
pumpkin pie with jesus's face on it there's i

01:14:04.090 --> 01:14:06.229
the cinnamon rolls actually did look really good

01:14:06.229 --> 01:14:07.909
i will give her that i won't take that away from

01:14:07.909 --> 01:14:13.329
her um but then production 1000 said to put the

01:14:13.329 --> 01:14:17.350
ctr letters on top of oh yeah so they would be

01:14:17.350 --> 01:14:19.489
like very similar yeah i think they were just

01:14:19.489 --> 01:14:23.069
stirring the pot oh yeah i think they also because

01:14:23.069 --> 01:14:27.109
doesn't whitney end up putting her bread in Out

01:14:27.109 --> 01:14:29.130
of all the desserts that she baked, she has to

01:14:29.130 --> 01:14:31.010
choose one to put in there and she does the bread.

01:14:31.149 --> 01:14:34.029
I feel like that was production, too. Oh, probably.

01:14:34.510 --> 01:14:39.510
Yeah. I love the idea of the Mormon bake off.

01:14:39.609 --> 01:14:41.930
I think that's funny. And when we host a live

01:14:41.930 --> 01:14:43.689
show, I would like to do this with our listeners

01:14:43.689 --> 01:14:45.510
where people just show up with baked goods for

01:14:45.510 --> 01:14:49.229
us to try. But like us themed, not Mormon themed.

01:14:49.470 --> 01:14:55.020
Yes, it could be. We'll have to workshop a theme,

01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.399
but yeah, I don't because I don't know what our

01:14:57.399 --> 01:15:01.000
theme would be. It would be pride. Gay bread.

01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:07.239
Poor Layla. She's not a baker and that's OK.

01:15:07.380 --> 01:15:10.979
Her pumpkin pie wasn't fully cooked. Oh, poor,

01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:15.300
poor, poor Layla. Miranda, however, made a blueberry

01:15:15.300 --> 01:15:17.960
coffee cake that looked incredible. So fucking

01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:22.960
good. Macy made some peanut butter bars with

01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:25.399
Joseph Smith standing on the top of them. Bless

01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:32.399
her. Okay, that's fine. Like, great. She can't

01:15:32.399 --> 01:15:34.699
do anything wrong. It's fine. Do you think that,

01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.359
like, they just have stores that are selling

01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:41.720
Joseph Smith, like, merchandise? It looks like

01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:44.060
she printed it out and cut it up, but I don't

01:15:44.060 --> 01:15:46.600
know. Oh, okay. See, I was like, does she go

01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:49.319
to Hobby Lobby? They probably do, though, because

01:15:49.319 --> 01:15:54.020
Mormons are so rampant in Utah. You know what

01:15:54.020 --> 01:15:55.960
I mean? They're just running around. They probably

01:15:55.960 --> 01:16:02.529
do have that. taylor taylor is so silly she got

01:16:02.529 --> 01:16:05.689
an apple pie from the grocery store but i think

01:16:05.689 --> 01:16:07.649
it is so kind that she said i'm gonna put this

01:16:07.649 --> 01:16:09.909
in a baking dish you guys are gonna like it yeah

01:16:09.909 --> 01:16:12.189
and she's doing it in the back of her fucking

01:16:12.189 --> 01:16:14.289
suv i thought that was hysterical yeah in the

01:16:14.289 --> 01:16:16.229
back of her suv in the parking lot didn't even

01:16:16.229 --> 01:16:18.890
bother heating it up nothing she said here you

01:16:18.890 --> 01:16:21.470
go she said i baked this congealed just for you

01:16:21.470 --> 01:16:28.270
taylor is so funny Demi makes a better than what

01:16:28.270 --> 01:16:31.949
cake that has dicks all over it. And I was mad

01:16:31.949 --> 01:16:35.590
because it looked really good. And I Googled

01:16:35.590 --> 01:16:39.069
it. And I a thousand percent know that I would

01:16:39.069 --> 01:16:41.569
fucking love a better than sex cake. I would

01:16:41.569 --> 01:16:44.550
I would eat it like it was my last meal. I just

01:16:44.550 --> 01:16:46.869
hate Demi. I do, too. So I saw it and I was like,

01:16:46.930 --> 01:16:55.760
oh, sacrilegious. Got it. Yeah. Connor saying

01:16:55.760 --> 01:17:00.659
the dicks were a total turn on love. Yeah. Okay.

01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:06.119
We get it. We get it. Live in your truth. I'm

01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:09.079
happy for you. I am too. And I'm glad that your

01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:12.279
wife hears you say that and just one in one ear

01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:14.119
and out the other. And she says, hee hee ha ha.

01:17:14.300 --> 01:17:17.359
She goes, I don't want to look at your phone

01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:22.630
later. No, don't show me. Layla brings up the

01:17:22.630 --> 01:17:25.470
confession about Brett and Brett looks furious

01:17:25.470 --> 01:17:32.229
for a second. And Macy then says that she regrets

01:17:32.229 --> 01:17:33.930
sharing it with the girls. I'm like, no, you

01:17:33.930 --> 01:17:37.409
don't. I think if anyone actually feels that

01:17:37.409 --> 01:17:41.170
way, it would be Macy. Yeah, but I don't believe

01:17:41.170 --> 01:17:44.770
it. You did your duty, girl. Yes, you served

01:17:44.770 --> 01:17:47.489
your country. How are you supposed to sit on

01:17:47.489 --> 01:17:51.180
that and not tell anyone like. of course he told

01:17:51.180 --> 01:17:54.579
people I agree and then Taylor breaks down for

01:17:54.579 --> 01:17:55.819
a little bit because of the Dakota situation

01:17:55.819 --> 01:18:00.000
and I'm honestly really really shocked and surprised

01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:04.520
at the way the entire group but especially the

01:18:04.520 --> 01:18:07.239
guys really supported her because they were like

01:18:07.239 --> 01:18:09.180
you know you don't deserve that like you deserve

01:18:09.180 --> 01:18:12.199
a good guy and they like want to lift her up

01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:13.600
and I thought that was really fucking cool they

01:18:13.600 --> 01:18:18.090
did rally around her I feel like She didn't even

01:18:18.090 --> 01:18:20.090
expect that because she seemed kind of, like,

01:18:20.090 --> 01:18:22.989
uncomfortable and, like, emotional about the

01:18:22.989 --> 01:18:27.550
whole thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was, like, hard

01:18:27.550 --> 01:18:32.390
to watch because it, I mean, I don't know. It's

01:18:32.390 --> 01:18:35.890
just, like, they're still having sex. Like, why

01:18:35.890 --> 01:18:38.229
are you doing that? Why are you doing that? Why

01:18:38.229 --> 01:18:40.189
are you doing that? But also, like, I've been

01:18:40.189 --> 01:18:42.329
in a toxic relationship. I get it. Y 'all have.

01:18:43.930 --> 01:18:47.260
Oh, my God. We're almost there, dear listener,

01:18:47.380 --> 01:18:49.380
to the end of this episode. And then we have

01:18:49.380 --> 01:18:52.899
a whole other one. But that is basically the

01:18:52.899 --> 01:18:54.619
end of the... No, I mean, there's a whole other

01:18:54.619 --> 01:18:57.079
episode to record after this. Right. We have

01:18:57.079 --> 01:18:59.399
a... Right. No, no, no, no, no. I meant that

01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:04.359
was the end of episode seven of the Mormon Wives.

01:19:04.359 --> 01:19:06.039
Yes. And now we're moving on to episode eight.

01:19:06.100 --> 01:19:09.819
Okay. Okay. So the Book of Betrayal. Episode

01:19:09.819 --> 01:19:16.140
eight, the Book of Betrayal. Here's where it

01:19:16.140 --> 01:19:22.560
all starts to get tangly at the CMAs of all places.

01:19:24.220 --> 01:19:27.779
We have Taylor presenting an award, which, by

01:19:27.779 --> 01:19:31.100
the way, she's on the red carpet. She looks as

01:19:31.100 --> 01:19:34.920
good as any of those girls has ever looked. She

01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:40.500
looks stunning. Yes. Stunning. Yeah. And then

01:19:40.500 --> 01:19:43.680
here's where all of the drama starts is she posts.

01:19:44.329 --> 01:19:49.090
on Instagram, as one does, that she's presenting

01:19:49.090 --> 01:19:53.350
an award at the CMAs. No one from the group comments

01:19:53.350 --> 01:19:57.510
on it. However, they didn't feel like they needed

01:19:57.510 --> 01:19:59.850
to because a lot of them had already texted her

01:19:59.850 --> 01:20:02.550
saying congratulations, huge night for you, I'll

01:20:02.550 --> 01:20:08.869
be watching, blah, blah, blah. It's just so exhausting.

01:20:09.149 --> 01:20:12.729
It's exhausting. And I've had friends like this

01:20:12.729 --> 01:20:17.350
before that you have to show support on social

01:20:17.350 --> 01:20:23.569
media or you don't show support at all. And for

01:20:23.569 --> 01:20:28.149
me, I guess I don't care either way. I feel like.

01:20:29.609 --> 01:20:32.689
There is something to be said. The one point

01:20:32.689 --> 01:20:37.189
I can see that Taylor never makes, but I feel

01:20:37.189 --> 01:20:40.829
like is embedded here, is the people you support

01:20:40.829 --> 01:20:44.430
in private, you should also lift up publicly.

01:20:45.050 --> 01:20:51.029
Sure. You know, however, a comment on one thing

01:20:51.029 --> 01:20:53.829
that you did after years of you having all of

01:20:53.829 --> 01:20:57.350
these accomplishments is not a make or break

01:20:57.350 --> 01:21:00.489
situation. Well, that in the past that I was

01:21:00.489 --> 01:21:04.590
also willing to give Taylor is that this is your

01:21:04.590 --> 01:21:09.489
job. Like your job is being public and social

01:21:09.489 --> 01:21:13.270
media like that is that is your job. And if she

01:21:13.270 --> 01:21:15.750
just would have said, like, you guys, this is

01:21:15.750 --> 01:21:17.390
mom talk. This is what we're supposed to do.

01:21:17.470 --> 01:21:21.000
Like, I would have bought that. I do feel like

01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:23.000
she could have hopped in the group chat and been

01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:25.960
like, hey, guys, we're MomTalk. We're supposed

01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:31.560
to be a united front here. And I feel like no

01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:34.079
one's supporting me on this particular thing.

01:21:34.840 --> 01:21:38.220
Could anyone go comment on it? I feel like that's

01:21:38.220 --> 01:21:40.399
not giving your dignity away. That's not giving

01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:43.409
anything away. That's just. You saying, hey,

01:21:43.489 --> 01:21:46.590
this is weird. Or don't even say, can someone

01:21:46.590 --> 01:21:49.050
go comment on it? Ask the question. Is there

01:21:49.050 --> 01:21:51.229
a reason none of you have said anything about

01:21:51.229 --> 01:21:54.590
it? I feel like it wasn't the content. It was

01:21:54.590 --> 01:21:56.810
the delivery. If Taylor would have just said,

01:21:56.890 --> 01:22:01.130
listen, if we could have gone about it differently,

01:22:01.310 --> 01:22:05.149
I think it would have been different. But we

01:22:05.149 --> 01:22:08.649
cut to Macy and Michaela going to Demi's house.

01:22:08.750 --> 01:22:12.060
Were they unpacked? Taylor's. Delivery and not

01:22:12.060 --> 01:22:14.060
the content of the delivery. Because she didn't

01:22:14.060 --> 01:22:16.699
bring it up to them at all. The first thing she

01:22:16.699 --> 01:22:20.300
did, right, is hop on her Instagram story. Take

01:22:20.300 --> 01:22:23.239
to a live. Yeah. I have to take to the social

01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:26.220
media. I must bring this to the attention of.

01:22:26.460 --> 01:22:30.640
All of my millions of followers, my friends aren't

01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:33.739
supporting me. Right. Before you ever hopped

01:22:33.739 --> 01:22:36.500
in the MomTalk group chat to be like, hey, guys,

01:22:36.539 --> 01:22:38.920
is there a reason I'm not being supported on

01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:42.060
this? Before you talk to them at all, you sick

01:22:42.060 --> 01:22:46.399
your millions of fans on them. That is a problem.

01:22:46.539 --> 01:22:51.279
Right. And I agree with that. Demi latches onto

01:22:51.279 --> 01:22:54.159
this, though, and this is where she decides Taylor's

01:22:54.159 --> 01:22:56.159
not qualified to be the leader of mom talk. And

01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:58.359
I was like, oh, I wonder who is. She's trying

01:22:58.359 --> 01:23:01.720
to stage a coup. She thinks that she's next in

01:23:01.720 --> 01:23:04.779
line to that throne. And she thinks anything

01:23:04.779 --> 01:23:08.279
to take Taylor down so I can be the queen bee.

01:23:08.439 --> 01:23:12.979
It is so strange. It is. And Demi's making hot

01:23:12.979 --> 01:23:14.760
chocolate. This is just a completely like something

01:23:14.760 --> 01:23:17.159
I just picked up on. This is the funniest thing

01:23:17.159 --> 01:23:20.789
I've ever seen. what the hot chocolate that but

01:23:20.789 --> 01:23:23.130
like what i picked up on was because i've i've

01:23:23.130 --> 01:23:25.409
known people that have tried to like portray

01:23:25.409 --> 01:23:28.229
this image before she's big or she's making hot

01:23:28.229 --> 01:23:31.170
chocolate in a lake crusade dutch oven a 350

01:23:31.170 --> 01:23:34.750
dollar lake crusade dutch oven and it's coming

01:23:34.750 --> 01:23:38.050
almost immediately after you talk about how jesse

01:23:38.050 --> 01:23:39.810
has all this money and like this that and the

01:23:39.810 --> 01:23:41.369
other so you need to prove that you have money

01:23:41.369 --> 01:23:44.770
not so much in your house in general hello right

01:23:44.770 --> 01:23:48.579
i hate that that being said um The hot chocolate

01:23:48.579 --> 01:23:50.220
is disgusting. It tastes like dirt, apparently.

01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:53.520
And I can align with Michaela on this one thing.

01:23:54.279 --> 01:23:56.220
And then Macy pours hers out in the sink. And

01:23:56.220 --> 01:24:00.359
I thought that was the greatest thing ever. Yeah,

01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:02.960
that was a I thought that was the funniest thing

01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:05.880
in the world that her her hot chocolate was so

01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:09.100
disgusting. I could tell from the bag she was

01:24:09.100 --> 01:24:10.880
pouring it from that it was going to be fucking

01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:14.819
gross. Yeah. Also, I started to write a note

01:24:14.819 --> 01:24:16.699
here. Macy decides that she's going to take on

01:24:16.699 --> 01:24:21.140
the task of maybe talking to Taylor. Maybe. I

01:24:21.140 --> 01:24:25.979
don't know. I don't know. Well, Leanne and Taylor's

01:24:25.979 --> 01:24:28.439
trash stepdad show up at Taylor's house. I guess

01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:30.399
he's going to hang a picture on the wall or something.

01:24:30.579 --> 01:24:32.560
I don't ever want to see that man on my TV again.

01:24:33.220 --> 01:24:36.880
Yeah. Oh, he's done to me. The fact that you

01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:39.279
can talk to your stepdaughter the way that you

01:24:39.279 --> 01:24:44.529
talk. Dakota shows up to pick Ever, so they're

01:24:44.529 --> 01:24:47.170
all there together. It's Taylor's stepdad's dream.

01:24:47.250 --> 01:24:49.810
He loves Dakota more than his own stepdaughter.

01:24:50.789 --> 01:24:52.810
Taylor acknowledges that some of the girls texted

01:24:52.810 --> 01:24:55.689
her, but she's making this whole thing about

01:24:55.689 --> 01:24:57.569
how they didn't support her publicly, and I feel

01:24:57.569 --> 01:25:02.210
like some of her feelings are valid, but the

01:25:02.210 --> 01:25:04.189
crash out on social media was a million percent

01:25:04.189 --> 01:25:08.489
too far. I, yeah, and I agree. That goes back

01:25:08.489 --> 01:25:11.880
to what we were just talking about. She could

01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:14.359
have said anything to the girls that she could

01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:17.060
have just asked them the question. And she didn't.

01:25:17.100 --> 01:25:20.460
She hopped on her stories. Right. So whatever.

01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:23.539
And then Taylor talks about her imposter syndrome.

01:25:23.600 --> 01:25:25.899
She doesn't ever call it imposter syndrome. That's

01:25:25.899 --> 01:25:28.180
100 percent what she's experiencing. Oh, yeah.

01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:30.119
She feels like she doesn't deserve anything that

01:25:30.119 --> 01:25:32.920
she has. Right. Because it all comes back to

01:25:32.920 --> 01:25:36.199
the swinging scandal. And then this piece of

01:25:36.199 --> 01:25:38.399
shit stepdad goes, well, your family doesn't

01:25:38.399 --> 01:25:42.979
care about that. Fuck you. No, you don't get

01:25:42.979 --> 01:25:45.680
to stand up for her now after saying you hooked

01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:48.140
up with Dakota after three dates. Fuck you. Fuck

01:25:48.140 --> 01:25:50.000
you. Because apparently you do care about it

01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:52.520
because you did. I thought you did care about

01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:55.039
what she was doing with her regime and that it

01:25:55.039 --> 01:25:57.060
was completely your business and that you get

01:25:57.060 --> 01:25:59.699
to call her a whore. Or do you not care about

01:25:59.699 --> 01:26:01.659
that because it was her husband and the husband

01:26:01.659 --> 01:26:04.520
was in charge? Fuck you. Fuck you, dude. You

01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:06.840
don't get a redemption arc until you apologize

01:26:06.840 --> 01:26:08.840
for what you said at the cookout. I'm sorry.

01:26:09.449 --> 01:26:11.250
I don't think he gets a redemption arc at all.

01:26:11.310 --> 01:26:13.250
I don't want him on the screen anymore. Hulu,

01:26:13.430 --> 01:26:18.930
take him off. Hulu. I'm talking to you. Um, Macy

01:26:18.930 --> 01:26:21.909
and Michaela go to meet up with Taylor and it's

01:26:21.909 --> 01:26:24.310
awkward as fuck when Taylor gets in the car.

01:26:24.510 --> 01:26:27.369
Yeah. I feel like Taylor, like if you met her

01:26:27.369 --> 01:26:29.350
in person would already be an awkward person.

01:26:29.409 --> 01:26:32.750
Oh yeah. And then. she also knows that she's

01:26:32.750 --> 01:26:35.750
like under fire from these girls and she's kind

01:26:35.750 --> 01:26:37.869
of pissed at them too not to the extent that

01:26:37.869 --> 01:26:40.029
they're pissed at her though and so she's just

01:26:40.029 --> 01:26:44.090
like yeah oh god but they go to swig and they

01:26:44.090 --> 01:26:45.789
get hot chocolate and i can't wait for it to

01:26:45.789 --> 01:26:47.369
get cold outside because i want to try that hot

01:26:47.369 --> 01:26:49.510
chocolate too bad i know i think it'll be really

01:26:49.510 --> 01:26:53.789
good um I've been craving hot chocolate, by the

01:26:53.789 --> 01:26:56.550
way. Have you? I've been craving it and I've

01:26:56.550 --> 01:26:58.829
been making it, too. Oh, I love that. I don't

01:26:58.829 --> 01:27:01.789
deny myself anything. I'm pregnant. You shouldn't.

01:27:02.010 --> 01:27:04.829
So, yeah, I've been drinking hot chocolate in

01:27:04.829 --> 01:27:06.729
July. Good. That's the whole thing. It's Christmas

01:27:06.729 --> 01:27:12.189
in July. Yeah. This is where I depart from Taylor

01:27:12.189 --> 01:27:14.270
a little bit. She says she would do it all over

01:27:14.270 --> 01:27:18.079
again. And the girls are. getting attacked online

01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:20.119
over not supporting Taylor, and then Taylor defends

01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:22.039
herself by saying public and private support

01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:26.420
are equally important. I don't agree with that.

01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:29.180
I'm not saying they're equal. I'm just saying

01:27:29.180 --> 01:27:33.000
if you support someone in private, you should

01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:36.140
also, you know, stand up and support them when

01:27:36.140 --> 01:27:39.260
it matters publicly. Right. But I don't think

01:27:39.260 --> 01:27:42.760
that public support is as important as... Anyway,

01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:46.329
it doesn't matter. I just... I also feel like

01:27:46.329 --> 01:27:48.449
Taylor is not understanding why they're mad.

01:27:48.649 --> 01:27:51.069
It's almost like Taylor doesn't understand. She

01:27:51.069 --> 01:27:53.289
doesn't. What they're saying because she doesn't

01:27:53.289 --> 01:27:55.609
understand why they're upset in the first place.

01:27:55.670 --> 01:27:58.489
She doesn't. And this is where it becomes exhausting

01:27:58.489 --> 01:28:02.890
for me is that I have had. And almost I mean,

01:28:02.970 --> 01:28:05.630
a bar for bar, almost identical fight with someone

01:28:05.630 --> 01:28:08.310
that we both know. Yeah. After their wedding

01:28:08.310 --> 01:28:14.699
and the like, she did not understand. That I

01:28:14.699 --> 01:28:19.739
was like, granted, it wasn't to this level, but

01:28:19.739 --> 01:28:23.500
I was just like, at some point, you have to drop

01:28:23.500 --> 01:28:25.140
it or we have to agree to disagree. One of those

01:28:25.140 --> 01:28:27.140
two things has to happen because I don't know

01:28:27.140 --> 01:28:28.579
what to do anymore. And I'm sorry that you feel

01:28:28.579 --> 01:28:30.079
like I didn't support you. But you also have

01:28:30.079 --> 01:28:35.399
to be sorry for like being insane. Yeah. Bashing.

01:28:35.819 --> 01:28:39.329
Because what they didn't do. Is go online and

01:28:39.329 --> 01:28:42.029
bash you, say you're a worse dress of the CMAs

01:28:42.029 --> 01:28:43.449
and you don't deserve it and all of this. They

01:28:43.449 --> 01:28:45.609
didn't do that. They just didn't say anything

01:28:45.609 --> 01:28:50.729
publicly. They texted you. Right. Michaela ends

01:28:50.729 --> 01:28:53.050
up saying that with her real life friendships,

01:28:53.270 --> 01:28:56.069
the private support matters more. And I agree

01:28:56.069 --> 01:28:58.329
with her and I hate that I agree with Michaela

01:28:58.329 --> 01:29:02.470
about something because that's one thing where

01:29:02.470 --> 01:29:05.350
I'm just like, I wholeheartedly agree. Yeah.

01:29:05.489 --> 01:29:08.989
And I think most people feel that way. I just

01:29:08.989 --> 01:29:13.609
said I do. I think most people do. I think if

01:29:13.609 --> 01:29:17.170
Taylor understood how to communicate what was

01:29:17.170 --> 01:29:19.869
bothering her, this whole conversation would

01:29:19.869 --> 01:29:23.189
have gone differently. I also feel like if Michaela

01:29:23.189 --> 01:29:28.829
or Macy could have found the words to explain

01:29:28.829 --> 01:29:31.670
why they were upset, this conversation would

01:29:31.670 --> 01:29:36.299
have gone differently. Because I think. From

01:29:36.299 --> 01:29:40.479
Taylor's perspective, they are just mad that

01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:44.000
she said anything on her stories on her account.

01:29:44.500 --> 01:29:46.960
That's not why they're upset. They're upset because

01:29:46.960 --> 01:29:51.460
now they have millions of people going in their

01:29:51.460 --> 01:29:53.619
comments and saying that they're bad friends.

01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:56.399
And I think if they would have included that

01:29:56.399 --> 01:29:59.500
in this conversation, Taylor could have seen

01:29:59.500 --> 01:30:03.930
it differently. And if Taylor... could have explained

01:30:03.930 --> 01:30:07.029
herself better she would have been perceived

01:30:07.029 --> 01:30:10.390
differently too it was just like yeah a huge

01:30:10.390 --> 01:30:15.210
miscommunication i feel like anyway i agree um

01:30:15.210 --> 01:30:18.810
macy and jacob go to san diego and they're doing

01:30:18.810 --> 01:30:22.670
ivf secretly and now they're doing a frozen embryo

01:30:22.670 --> 01:30:27.560
transfer and i actually kind of like that they're

01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:30.420
doing this without telling anyone because i think

01:30:30.420 --> 01:30:33.500
especially if you're doing ivf there's a whole

01:30:33.500 --> 01:30:36.439
conversation that happens around it unnecessarily

01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:37.739
where people are like how's it going how's it

01:30:37.739 --> 01:30:39.500
going how's it going and it puts so much pressure

01:30:39.500 --> 01:30:43.239
on the couple that like you can't win for losing

01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:46.979
like it's i I hate that. So I'm glad that they're

01:30:46.979 --> 01:30:48.979
doing it, like, on their own terms. Well, and

01:30:48.979 --> 01:30:50.819
the other thing is people don't do that when

01:30:50.819 --> 01:30:53.300
you're trying for a baby naturally. People aren't

01:30:53.300 --> 01:30:54.880
on your back saying, how's it going, how's it

01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:58.640
going, how's it going? So, like, I do also like

01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:02.279
that they kept, like, their intimacy about it.

01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:04.760
Like, they let it be their journey without any

01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:09.159
other peering eyes. Right. Which is, yeah. And

01:31:09.159 --> 01:31:11.199
then the doctor comes in with the embryo, and

01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:13.579
I don't know what the fuck I was expecting, but,

01:31:13.619 --> 01:31:16.020
like, It was just a little syringe with like

01:31:16.020 --> 01:31:20.579
a little IV tube in it. And like I, I guess I

01:31:20.579 --> 01:31:23.239
didn't know what I thought an embryo or how big

01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:26.340
I thought an embryo was. Teeny tiny. Apparently.

01:31:27.659 --> 01:31:32.359
And then Jacob's reaction after the treatment,

01:31:32.439 --> 01:31:34.539
that did make me cry. Like, I'm not going to

01:31:34.539 --> 01:31:38.479
lie. Like his emotion over it was so sweet. I

01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:42.239
think he is so excited to be a dad. He just wants

01:31:42.239 --> 01:31:46.149
to be a dad. He loves Macy so much, too. You

01:31:46.149 --> 01:31:49.029
can tell like he would die for that girl. It

01:31:49.029 --> 01:31:51.229
is very sweet. I thought that was very sweet.

01:31:52.470 --> 01:31:54.869
Taylor and Layla go to New York. They're shooting

01:31:54.869 --> 01:31:57.670
a commercial for a brand deal. Demi is seething

01:31:57.670 --> 01:32:01.289
at this. Oh, yeah, because we find out that Demi

01:32:01.289 --> 01:32:03.149
asked Layla how much they were making. And like

01:32:03.149 --> 01:32:07.520
we saw the screenshots and it. Well, we didn't

01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:09.159
see actual screenshots. Have you ever noticed

01:32:09.159 --> 01:32:11.819
how they like recreate screenshots where it's

01:32:11.819 --> 01:32:14.239
like not the same font and like not the same

01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:18.880
color quite as the iPhone? Yeah. And I wonder

01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:21.300
if it's like a copyright thing. Yeah, I don't

01:32:21.300 --> 01:32:25.119
know. Or like just how their values are set on

01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:28.779
their like on the actual show makes it look weird.

01:32:28.859 --> 01:32:31.520
I can't tell. No, because the font isn't right.

01:32:31.579 --> 01:32:34.470
Yeah, the fonts. yeah completely different like

01:32:34.470 --> 01:32:36.750
it's the the emojis look different like it's

01:32:36.750 --> 01:32:39.289
it's anyway that's a weird thing that i've noticed

01:32:39.289 --> 01:32:42.989
but like she did ask several times like how much

01:32:42.989 --> 01:32:44.430
did you make up like and i was just like drop

01:32:44.430 --> 01:32:46.909
it fucking drop it it's none of your fucking

01:32:46.909 --> 01:32:50.250
business it's such a weird pocket watching thing

01:32:50.250 --> 01:32:53.869
with demi i don't know yeah she really turned

01:32:53.869 --> 01:32:59.739
me off with that whole thing um taylor shares

01:32:59.739 --> 01:33:02.520
that she is apologized to the girls and apparently

01:33:02.520 --> 01:33:07.560
demi does not accept the apology and she says

01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:10.439
to taylor you should be kissing our feet and

01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:14.279
let me tell you something in no uncertain terms

01:33:14.279 --> 01:33:17.619
if you're going to tell me how i am supposed

01:33:17.619 --> 01:33:19.659
to apologize when i am actually trying to come

01:33:19.659 --> 01:33:22.199
to you and say like i i it's different if it's

01:33:22.199 --> 01:33:23.939
like a non -apology like it was like one of those

01:33:23.939 --> 01:33:25.819
things i'm sorry you felt that way i don't like

01:33:25.819 --> 01:33:27.119
that but that's something taylor's doing here

01:33:27.579 --> 01:33:30.899
Yeah, it's one thing to say, I hear you, but

01:33:30.899 --> 01:33:33.319
that's not a real apology. It's another thing

01:33:33.319 --> 01:33:37.739
to say your apology is not enough and you need

01:33:37.739 --> 01:33:40.920
to be kissing the ground I walk on. Our feet.

01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:46.579
That's you're a cunt. Yeah, she is really a problem.

01:33:46.899 --> 01:33:49.560
And like, I feel like she was just mad because

01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:51.760
she saw that all the girls were kind of like

01:33:51.760 --> 01:33:55.319
coming around. coming around and accepting Taylor

01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:57.880
and she was like oh no no no that's my spot that's

01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:05.079
my spot and so she crashed out yes and go she

01:34:05.079 --> 01:34:07.119
can go fuck herself I have nothing else to say

01:34:07.119 --> 01:34:13.560
about Demi um and then And I knew this was going

01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:15.319
to come back to bite Layla and she should have

01:34:15.319 --> 01:34:17.640
kept her fucking mouth shut. But they're in here

01:34:17.640 --> 01:34:19.899
and makeup. They're getting glam. And Layla goes,

01:34:19.960 --> 01:34:21.500
no, I'll have your back tonight at the Saints

01:34:21.500 --> 01:34:23.960
and Sinners party. I'll stand up for you. Right.

01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:26.859
Right. Because they help will come in the morning.

01:34:26.899 --> 01:34:30.960
You are flying back to Utah that night for a

01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:34.479
Saints and Sinners party. And Layla says. She'll

01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:37.100
have Taylor's back. And I feel like she was just

01:34:37.100 --> 01:34:40.000
in the moment trying to be like, I understand

01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:43.039
where you're coming from. I totally get it. And

01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:44.960
like that just like slipped out of her mouth.

01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:47.680
You know what I'm saying? She didn't mean that.

01:34:47.859 --> 01:34:53.100
Anyway, obviously. Yeah. Macy goes home to take

01:34:53.100 --> 01:34:57.180
her pregnancy test. And that was quick, like

01:34:57.180 --> 01:34:59.710
for the pregnancy test. Right. I don't know.

01:34:59.789 --> 01:35:04.689
Well, this whole show, the tempo is crazy. So

01:35:04.689 --> 01:35:07.729
it's like it's hard to tell. I don't I don't

01:35:07.729 --> 01:35:09.930
remember. I think she said it was like a couple

01:35:09.930 --> 01:35:12.289
of weeks after implantation that she took the

01:35:12.289 --> 01:35:17.319
test. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. She's pregnant.

01:35:17.500 --> 01:35:19.760
I'm really happy for her and Jacob. I cried.

01:35:19.939 --> 01:35:22.420
I was so happy because I know they wanted it

01:35:22.420 --> 01:35:25.359
so bad. I am really happy for them. They looked

01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:28.479
so thrilled. They also looked apprehensive because,

01:35:28.539 --> 01:35:30.899
of course, like early on, you have to be careful.

01:35:31.079 --> 01:35:34.060
But they did look so happy. It does cut to a

01:35:34.060 --> 01:35:36.680
picture of Jesus walking on water, though, like

01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:40.420
their house. Did you notice that? That's a picture

01:35:40.420 --> 01:35:42.420
of Jesus just walking on water, standing on the

01:35:42.420 --> 01:35:49.710
wall. And then Taylor and Layla are on the jet

01:35:49.710 --> 01:35:53.909
headed back home in a private jet. And Layla

01:35:53.909 --> 01:36:00.329
made a choice. She said, I don't know if I said

01:36:00.329 --> 01:36:02.449
anything bad about you, but here's the group

01:36:02.449 --> 01:36:04.470
chat that I have with everyone else except for

01:36:04.470 --> 01:36:09.449
you. Sweet Layla. I feel like she just wanted

01:36:09.449 --> 01:36:12.149
to be like, see Taylor, I'm here for you. I'll

01:36:12.149 --> 01:36:14.869
be transparent with you. I'll let you read my

01:36:14.869 --> 01:36:21.859
texts. About you. I feel like. Layla. I'm not

01:36:21.859 --> 01:36:24.000
going to call her dumb. I don't think she's dumb.

01:36:24.220 --> 01:36:28.439
But I think. She doesn't. She doesn't always

01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:34.579
think before she says things. She. Doesn't. But

01:36:34.579 --> 01:36:36.680
what I also think. I love Layla. I can't believe

01:36:36.680 --> 01:36:38.560
I'm talking down on her name. But I don't think

01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:40.800
you are talking down on her. I think she does

01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:43.220
want to show loyalty. And I think she does want

01:36:43.220 --> 01:36:45.789
to. I don't think she wants anything bad to happen

01:36:45.789 --> 01:36:50.489
to Taylor. I do think that she doesn't want to

01:36:50.489 --> 01:36:53.529
follow through on the loyalty though. That's

01:36:53.529 --> 01:36:55.189
where I struggle a little bit with Layla where

01:36:55.189 --> 01:36:56.810
it's like, I don't think she wants to get her

01:36:56.810 --> 01:37:02.289
hands dirty. A hundred percent. She's the, she's

01:37:02.289 --> 01:37:05.470
the type of person that I feel like Taylor is

01:37:05.470 --> 01:37:09.869
actually having a problem with. Like she's the

01:37:09.869 --> 01:37:14.750
type of person to in private say, I support you

01:37:14.750 --> 01:37:17.710
fully. I'll have your back. And then in public,

01:37:17.829 --> 01:37:22.109
I mean, not do that at all. So, yeah, with that,

01:37:22.130 --> 01:37:24.369
we go into the Saints and Sinners party. Right.

01:37:25.869 --> 01:37:27.949
It's a joint venture between Baby Mama and Jay

01:37:27.949 --> 01:37:29.550
-Z Styles, which I thought was really, really

01:37:29.550 --> 01:37:32.789
cool for them to show like, hey, we can do something

01:37:32.789 --> 01:37:34.350
together. We can support each other's businesses

01:37:34.350 --> 01:37:37.289
like we're like there's there. I didn't feel

01:37:37.289 --> 01:37:40.960
like one. brand had more of a spotlight than

01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:44.859
the other and i thought these are two girls who

01:37:44.859 --> 01:37:48.159
support each other who want to build each other

01:37:48.159 --> 01:37:50.020
up and i thought that was very cool to see i

01:37:50.020 --> 01:37:54.800
do think um macy and jesse both have that in

01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:57.539
them though they're both like very humble and

01:37:57.539 --> 01:37:59.939
like out of everyone on the cast if anyone was

01:37:59.939 --> 01:38:03.770
going to do that it would be them too because

01:38:03.770 --> 01:38:06.550
I really feel like they do want to, like, empower

01:38:06.550 --> 01:38:08.609
each other, which is supposed to be what their

01:38:08.609 --> 01:38:10.829
whole group is about anyway, by the way. By the

01:38:10.829 --> 01:38:14.430
way. We just don't see that very often. Right.

01:38:16.109 --> 01:38:22.420
Macy and Jesse both look gorgeous. Yes. Stunning,

01:38:22.420 --> 01:38:24.899
stunning, stunning. Demi walks in with her little

01:38:24.899 --> 01:38:27.840
fuck -ass red wings, and I don't know. I feel

01:38:27.840 --> 01:38:31.920
like no one shared what wings they were wearing,

01:38:32.100 --> 01:38:35.300
Mama. They didn't talk about it at all. They

01:38:35.300 --> 01:38:38.899
went to the Party City bankruptcy sale and said,

01:38:39.020 --> 01:38:41.119
I'll just take whatever's left, I guess. And

01:38:41.119 --> 01:38:44.399
they didn't send a picture. They didn't do anything

01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:47.579
because then Taylor walks in with wings that

01:38:47.579 --> 01:38:51.779
are bigger than her. Jesus Christ. taller than

01:38:51.779 --> 01:38:54.399
her she had to she had to go sideways to get

01:38:54.399 --> 01:39:00.920
in the door yeah she do you remember the Victoria's

01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:03.579
Secret fashion show yes they were like that they

01:39:03.579 --> 01:39:05.739
were bigger than that almost like the finale

01:39:05.739 --> 01:39:10.260
maybe I've never like I saw it and I was like

01:39:10.260 --> 01:39:13.020
I this episode I was like watching it right before

01:39:13.020 --> 01:39:15.640
bed I was like maybe I'm tired I was watching

01:39:15.640 --> 01:39:18.319
what she walked in and like to be fair Taylor's

01:39:18.319 --> 01:39:21.239
probably like a teeny tiny little person yeah

01:39:21.239 --> 01:39:25.420
it was the most but still outrageously large

01:39:25.420 --> 01:39:27.560
set of angel wings i've ever fucking seen in

01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:29.640
my life like 18 feet wide what are you doing

01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:33.039
i swear to god because even like the victoria

01:39:33.039 --> 01:39:35.420
secret angels i feel like they were mostly not

01:39:35.420 --> 01:39:38.600
that big no and i was like where did you find

01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:41.220
these like where did you acquire these wings

01:39:41.220 --> 01:39:43.199
that is my question i want to know the logistics

01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:48.279
of it Like, I don't understand. Maybe. Or, like,

01:39:48.380 --> 01:39:50.279
because I was thinking through, like, how were

01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:52.380
they shipped to you? Because, like, there's structure

01:39:52.380 --> 01:39:54.020
to them, so you, like, have to ship them in a

01:39:54.020 --> 01:39:55.939
big -ass box. Like, it had to have been shipped,

01:39:55.960 --> 01:39:59.319
like, art. What are we doing? What are we doing?

01:39:59.840 --> 01:40:03.550
Mind you, not even her event. right she was like

01:40:03.550 --> 01:40:06.810
oh i need to get wings i got wings i got wings

01:40:06.810 --> 01:40:10.010
what i would be willing to believe more though

01:40:10.010 --> 01:40:12.069
she already had those waiting in her closet oh

01:40:12.069 --> 01:40:14.710
i am willing to believe she already had those

01:40:14.710 --> 01:40:17.210
from a separate occasion oh absolutely i would

01:40:17.210 --> 01:40:20.350
buy that in a heartbeat denny is simply ready

01:40:20.350 --> 01:40:24.329
to fight um where This is another page. She shows

01:40:24.329 --> 01:40:26.449
up with smoke coming out of her ears. Oh, yeah.

01:40:26.449 --> 01:40:29.090
Yeah. And this is another page they took directly

01:40:29.090 --> 01:40:31.189
from the Real Housewives book. Let's go to a

01:40:31.189 --> 01:40:32.989
separate room so we can have a conversation,

01:40:33.289 --> 01:40:40.329
girls. Yeah. OK. Taylor apologizes to everyone

01:40:40.329 --> 01:40:43.029
in the group except Demi. She goes, except you,

01:40:43.069 --> 01:40:45.590
Demi. I'm not sorry to you. That was the greatest

01:40:45.590 --> 01:40:48.050
thing ever. I loved it, too. Demi doesn't deserve

01:40:48.050 --> 01:40:49.989
an apology because she's been talking out of

01:40:49.989 --> 01:40:53.329
her ass for six episodes. Right. So then they

01:40:53.329 --> 01:40:57.789
start going at it. Layla is disassociating so

01:40:57.789 --> 01:41:01.630
fucking hard. Like she doesn't say a word one

01:41:01.630 --> 01:41:06.039
way or another. Staring directly. past the wall

01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:10.359
like saying oh I can't oh actually I didn't see

01:41:10.359 --> 01:41:14.579
it going this way sorry Taylor I have exited

01:41:14.579 --> 01:41:20.899
reality right like wow wow and I hate that I

01:41:20.899 --> 01:41:23.500
really do wish at some point she would have stood

01:41:23.500 --> 01:41:26.539
up to be like I've talked to Taylor I've been

01:41:26.539 --> 01:41:29.539
with Taylor all day I really don't think any

01:41:29.539 --> 01:41:32.399
of this is coming out of malice what I am shocked

01:41:32.399 --> 01:41:35.829
about though is that tailored and maybe Taylor

01:41:35.829 --> 01:41:38.789
just didn't even clock it but like Layla did

01:41:38.789 --> 01:41:40.710
say she was gonna stand up for her and she didn't

01:41:40.710 --> 01:41:45.109
right and I would have bought Layla saying I'm

01:41:45.109 --> 01:41:46.930
just like confrontation like isn't really my

01:41:46.930 --> 01:41:49.569
thing whatever but she did try to defend Demi

01:41:49.569 --> 01:41:54.869
against Taylor in yeah Scottsdale so I'm like

01:41:54.869 --> 01:41:57.930
uh you're I don't like that I don't like it I

01:41:57.930 --> 01:42:00.729
just feel like again I feel like sometimes she

01:42:00.729 --> 01:42:03.609
doesn't think about what she's doing I feel like

01:42:03.609 --> 01:42:06.909
she's just like, and I get this way too. I feel

01:42:06.909 --> 01:42:08.930
like sometimes she's just like gliding through

01:42:08.930 --> 01:42:10.609
life, not really thinking about what she's doing

01:42:10.609 --> 01:42:13.609
one way or another. But what I also will give

01:42:13.609 --> 01:42:17.369
Layla in this moment, like if she ever uses this

01:42:17.369 --> 01:42:19.829
as her defense, I'll buy it. Taylor didn't need

01:42:19.829 --> 01:42:22.689
a goddamn person to stick up for Taylor. Taylor

01:42:22.689 --> 01:42:29.680
can hold her own in a fight. Yeah. I feel like

01:42:29.680 --> 01:42:31.659
I've called this out before, but like I feel

01:42:31.659 --> 01:42:33.340
like I always write it down about Jessie. She's

01:42:33.340 --> 01:42:36.659
a really good communicator. She is. And I also

01:42:36.659 --> 01:42:39.079
feel like she's very emotionally intelligent.

01:42:39.239 --> 01:42:41.659
Yes. She's good at taking everything on the chin

01:42:41.659 --> 01:42:45.560
and being like, this is not I. She's one of those

01:42:45.560 --> 01:42:48.180
people where like I feel like internally she's

01:42:48.180 --> 01:42:51.399
always like, I know who I am and I don't need

01:42:51.399 --> 01:42:55.579
you to like validate that for me. Yes. You know,

01:42:55.600 --> 01:43:00.310
like she's very comfortable in her skin. We find

01:43:00.310 --> 01:43:03.550
out that Demi's talked shit about Jessie's business

01:43:03.550 --> 01:43:06.369
and her hair skills. That really pissed me off.

01:43:07.789 --> 01:43:10.010
Talk shit about whatever you want. What really

01:43:10.010 --> 01:43:12.829
upset me was you looked at Jessie and you could

01:43:12.829 --> 01:43:15.430
tell her feelings were hurt. I wanted to cry

01:43:15.430 --> 01:43:17.050
for Jessie. I just wanted to hug her. Well, I

01:43:17.050 --> 01:43:19.430
feel like if anyone knows anything about Jessie,

01:43:19.510 --> 01:43:22.170
it's that she rides or dies for this hair brand.

01:43:22.510 --> 01:43:25.949
And so I feel like she was willing to hear the...

01:43:26.750 --> 01:43:30.300
I don't think you deserve as much. for brand

01:43:30.300 --> 01:43:32.199
deals or whatever i don't think she should be

01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:34.039
paid as much for the show but none of that had

01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:37.020
anything to do with her integrity as a business

01:43:37.020 --> 01:43:40.420
woman exactly that's yeah because i think all

01:43:40.420 --> 01:43:42.840
of that had to do with oh you already make so

01:43:42.840 --> 01:43:46.359
much money with your hair brand and so now to

01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:49.180
hear you also don't believe in the hair brand

01:43:49.180 --> 01:43:52.880
is like a punch in the gut oh it sucked it sucked

01:43:52.880 --> 01:43:55.159
to see your face like that was really hard for

01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:57.619
me yeah and that really pissed me off because

01:43:57.619 --> 01:44:01.100
if you're i mean here's how I honestly feel if

01:44:01.100 --> 01:44:04.699
your friend has a business or a venture of any

01:44:04.699 --> 01:44:08.579
kind it is your job to support them and if you

01:44:08.579 --> 01:44:11.640
have any criticism for them number one it better

01:44:11.640 --> 01:44:14.159
be constructive and number two it is your duty

01:44:14.159 --> 01:44:18.380
to spread that to them in private Yes. You don't

01:44:18.380 --> 01:44:21.079
tell anyone else anything except for it is the

01:44:21.079 --> 01:44:23.479
most amazing thing I've ever seen ever. Yes.

01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:26.460
That is your duty as a friend. I agree. So as

01:44:26.460 --> 01:44:28.720
soon as you're like, oh, I don't know if you

01:44:28.720 --> 01:44:31.199
should go there. Oh, I don't know if I believe

01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:36.039
in them for color or whatever. Fuck you. Guillotine

01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:41.130
for you. I agree. I also felt like in this moment,

01:44:41.229 --> 01:44:43.630
this is not the first time Jesse's heard about

01:44:43.630 --> 01:44:45.529
Demi talking shit about it, but this is the first

01:44:45.529 --> 01:44:49.050
time it became real. Yeah, I feel like maybe

01:44:49.050 --> 01:44:51.270
she had heard it before and just didn't believe

01:44:51.270 --> 01:44:55.869
it. And now like Taylor's saying it. And she's

01:44:55.869 --> 01:44:58.390
like, oh, yeah, I think this really might have

01:44:58.390 --> 01:45:01.130
happened because the whole storyline is that

01:45:01.130 --> 01:45:03.470
Demi said that to Taylor. So now Taylor's like

01:45:03.470 --> 01:45:09.239
confirming. Yeah, I did say that. Demi is reaching

01:45:09.239 --> 01:45:11.840
and digging for something to throw in Taylor's

01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:16.159
face. So the arrest from season one comes up

01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:20.939
and Desi or Demi gets into how Taylor and Dakota's

01:45:20.939 --> 01:45:25.279
relationship is so toxic and which is true. It

01:45:25.279 --> 01:45:28.760
is toxic as hell. Yeah, she would. never put

01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:30.960
a child in that situation and that's where she

01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:32.300
lost me because i was like you don't bring the

01:45:32.300 --> 01:45:34.199
fucking kids into it you don't get to do that

01:45:34.199 --> 01:45:37.380
what are you saying demi like are you dead ass

01:45:37.380 --> 01:45:39.880
serious i would have put hands on her if i were

01:45:39.880 --> 01:45:42.979
taylor what are you saying i'm surprised she

01:45:42.979 --> 01:45:47.010
didn't honestly You're bringing up old news.

01:45:47.229 --> 01:45:49.909
Things she's already repented for, apologized

01:45:49.909 --> 01:45:53.350
to everyone involved for, moved on from. Yes,

01:45:53.350 --> 01:45:55.250
she's still in this toxic relationship with this

01:45:55.250 --> 01:45:57.569
man. No, she's not putting her hands on him.

01:45:57.609 --> 01:46:01.470
No, he's not putting his hands on her. They just

01:46:01.470 --> 01:46:05.369
are emotionally volatile. They're also emotionally

01:46:05.369 --> 01:46:08.010
stupid. Right. Like, let's just call it what

01:46:08.010 --> 01:46:10.649
it is. Taylor is not an emotionally intelligent

01:46:10.649 --> 01:46:13.489
person. I'm willing to say that on record. Yes.

01:46:14.779 --> 01:46:17.000
Has a hard time understanding where anyone is

01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:22.600
coming from. Not an empath. However. Why the

01:46:22.600 --> 01:46:26.220
fuck is that a bad situation for their baby who

01:46:26.220 --> 01:46:29.640
can't even hear correctly yet? Why are you such

01:46:29.640 --> 01:46:32.140
a big cunt that that's how that's that's where

01:46:32.140 --> 01:46:34.300
you need to take it? What are you saying? Taylor

01:46:34.300 --> 01:46:37.600
has other kids, by the way. But you just want

01:46:37.600 --> 01:46:43.819
to dig at the baby. Cunt. Oh. my God. Mind you,

01:46:43.880 --> 01:46:46.300
they're taking fine care of this baby. This baby

01:46:46.300 --> 01:46:52.579
is protected and cared for at all times. Well,

01:46:52.699 --> 01:46:56.020
except for the baby wipes, but they figured it

01:46:56.020 --> 01:46:58.180
out. It's not like they were like, oh, well,

01:46:58.300 --> 01:47:01.680
he's just going to be shitty. Like, oh my God.

01:47:03.539 --> 01:47:05.920
That really pissed me off. I agree. I was mad

01:47:05.920 --> 01:47:08.739
about that. And then the fight kind of dissipates.

01:47:09.500 --> 01:47:11.619
The girls all leave the room except for Taylor

01:47:11.619 --> 01:47:16.000
and Jesse, where I was almost positive this is

01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:17.760
going to be a thing where Taylor was like, see,

01:47:17.960 --> 01:47:19.880
Demi's a bad friend and she was going to try

01:47:19.880 --> 01:47:21.579
and turn her against Demi. But she was like,

01:47:21.579 --> 01:47:25.479
it felt like she was checking on Jesse and Jesse

01:47:25.479 --> 01:47:27.560
did share. She's like, I'm embarrassed in her

01:47:27.560 --> 01:47:30.140
right now. And like, I think the word embarrassed

01:47:30.140 --> 01:47:32.699
like broke my heart for her a little bit. I know.

01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:36.760
I mean, I understand like why she feels the way

01:47:36.760 --> 01:47:39.380
she feels. It just is like. You don't deserve

01:47:39.380 --> 01:47:41.960
to be embarrassed. That bitch should be embarrassed

01:47:41.960 --> 01:47:45.500
because she's a bitch. She's so mean. She is

01:47:45.500 --> 01:47:50.239
brutal. She has no couth. Oh, my God. So uncouth.

01:47:51.899 --> 01:47:55.439
And that's just like, yeah, I really felt for

01:47:55.439 --> 01:47:58.340
Jesse in that moment. And that's where the episode

01:47:58.340 --> 01:48:03.340
leaves off. Dear listener. Yeah. Emma and I are

01:48:03.340 --> 01:48:06.250
going to roll. basically into episode nine do

01:48:06.250 --> 01:48:07.689
you want to see if jack wants to go on a walk

01:48:07.689 --> 01:48:10.569
do you think he needs that yeah let's do that

01:48:10.569 --> 01:48:12.970
jack and jack and emma and i are gonna go on

01:48:12.970 --> 01:48:15.170
a walk and then we're gonna come back and we're

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