I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is Bestie
Approved. Yay. What's the last song you listened
to? Smooth featuring Rob Thomas by Santana. Sure.
Sure. Mine, you've never heard of, I can almost
guarantee. It's the words best friend become
redefined by Chiodos. Do you know what we should
do? We should make an Apple Music playlist like
public with all these songs. We should, except they're
gonna judge me on some of them i guess i was
um baby if you think they're not gonna judge
the overloving fuck out of me listen to this
song it was so evil i was listening to it loud
as hell in my car sometimes i just am angry that's
okay that is okay it's been a week guys it has
been a week Where do you want to start? Do you
want to start with your pregnancy update? Yeah.
Let's do it. I am 17 weeks today. We're recording
on Wednesday this week. So my baby is the size
of an onion. I can't stop eating sugar, which
is like really, really bad. So I'm just like
having internal battles about that constantly.
Like, is it bad for the baby or is it just like
a you thing that it's bad? It's not necessarily
bad for the baby, but there's this thing that
you can have gestational diabetes, which is basically
like while you're pregnant, you're diabetic.
And I really don't want to have that. I honestly
don't know what the treatment of that even entails,
but I don't want it. So it's a battle every day.
I have my one little sweet treat typically. And
then I fight myself the rest of the day. But
that's okay. Other than that, I'm fine. I'm still
so tired. And they told me that I wasn't going
to be tired in the second trimester. Wait, I
want to go back to the diabetes thing for a second.
You just have diabetes while you're pregnant?
Like, it's not... Yeah. Oh. When I was pregnant
with Jack, I had pregnancy -induced hypertension.
So, like, my blood pressure was high only while
I was pregnant. And now he doesn't. Does it just
go away, like... Yeah. ...when you have the baby?
Yeah. Oh. When I got... So, you go back to your
OB, like, six weeks after you give birth, so
you get cleared. to like exercise and stuff.
And at that appointment, my blood pressure was
back to completely normal. Well, yeah, it's weird.
Yeah. I mean, your body's going through tons
of changes. You're trying to take care of a baby.
It's all weird. You know, it is weird. I'm never
going to have a baby. Yeah. Ever. I mean, I'm
not going to. have it though right i'm never
gonna be pregnant i'm never gonna know what's
the size of an onion inside of me right no uh
but yeah it's crazy can you believe it's only
40 weeks and i'm 17 weeks in i cannot believe
we're almost halfway through because it feels
like literally two weeks ago you told me like
that is wild to me right i feel like i'm gonna
have a baby tomorrow i'm so unprepared Also,
they say this week he like starts hearing. He's
developing. Oh, babies can hear you while they're
in the belly. And that's why you'll see like
people talking to their babies. Do you want to
know what's insane? Like the preview of this
app literally says Emma this week. Also, you
can like. Wait, so go back to it can hear. The
baby can hear? How? Starting like this week -ish.
So it starts off, they can only hear like my
voice, basically. But when they are like bigger,
like when it's closer to time, you're supposed
to have the dad or whoever's going to be around
the baby also talk to the baby. So it's like
a comfortable voice when the baby's born. Isn't
that crazy? That is. I don't know if it makes
me uncomfortable or if it's like a marvel of
like the human body, which is really cool. Yeah,
it's cool. I mean, it freaks me out, but I'm
like, I don't know. I don't know. We're going
to figure it out. Jack, when he was in my belly,
liked certain music. Like I could tell he would
like start kicking and moving around a lot. What
did he like? Like what was his favorite song?
Frank Ocean. He loved Frank Ocean. Of course
he did. Yeah. What do you think this baby's going
to like? Because if it's not Kesha, I'm going
to be really upset. I think he'll love Kesha.
I would hope so. Do you think he's going to know
the sound of my voice? Probably. Aww. I don't
know. Yeah, I don't know. It's all crazy. I think
a lot of pregnancy stuff is guesswork, too, because,
like, how can you actually know what's going
on in a baby's brain while they're in their mom?
You know what I mean? I don't know. In my mind,
I was like, oh, they're just guessing on most
of it. I don't know. That's what I thought, but
then it's, like, very hyper -specific stuff,
too. Like, this week he also is, like, starting
to form fat. in his body it's like how do you
know that like how how did we figure that out
I mean that probably comes from the ultrasound
like I'm more interested in like how it like
the cognitive functions like how they know that
because that well I bet I don't know I'm not
I'm not a scientist I'm sure there's some type
of scan or something they can do to see um another
one is I think it was last week he can swallow
Isn't that crazy? They practice for a long time,
like in the belly, the act of like sucking like
they would on a bottle. Oh, is that where the
instinct comes from? That's so interesting. They
practice it this early on in pregnancy. A little
onion. That's me. I love that. Our little onion
August. We're sharing the name. Are we telling
the people the name? Do we need to cut that?
Okay. I'm not weird about the name. I know some
people like to wait until it's like the baby's
here to tell anyone the name. I'm not like that.
I'm so bad at keeping secrets like that. Oh,
yeah. I'm really good at keeping secrets that
are like bad stuff or hard stuff. but I'm horrible
at keeping secrets that are exciting things.
I've never wanted to keep a secret from you,
but the way that my granny has called me and
told me information and said, do not tell anyone
about this, and you were the first person that
I pick up the phone and call. I do that too.
If there's a really juicy secret, I'll just tell
someone who's not involved instantaneously. Oh,
yeah. I can't keep it to myself. I really can't.
How can you be expected to, honestly? I've been
this way my whole life. I remember as a kid,
like, no one would tell me what anyone got anyone
for Christmas because I would tell. I would get
so excited for them, and I would want to be like...
You know what you got? You had tea to spill.
Which is honestly probably kind of selfish of
me because I wanted to see their reaction. No,
you wanted to spread joy. We need to reframe
that a little bit because you wanted to spread
joy. Oh, Lord. Okay, we've got some stuff this
week. Where do you want to start? I guess Diddy.
So on my way to Emma's house, I got a... notification
from apple news that diddy was only found guilty
on the two lesser charges of um that he was on
trial for so there were five charges one count
of racketeering conspiracy two counts of sex
trafficking by force fraud or coercion and two
counts of transportation to engage in prostitution
the two counts of transportation to engage in
prostitution are the ones he was found guilty
of i just have to be really honest i'm not thrilled
with the justice system right now given everything
that we have learned from the trial and from
the last seven weeks I'm just I I just feel like
those were the easiest charges to prove sure
you know what I mean because there are records
of flights and you know license plates that are
on camera and things like that I just I knew
this was gonna happen I knew this was gonna happen
because And there's no evidence. You would have
to get everyone to testify against him. And everyone's
so scared of him. Right. I will say if he's in
prison for 20 years, when he gets out, he's going
to be 75. He can't survive a freak off. You know
what I mean? So I think it's over for all of
the victims and people involved. Thank God. But
I don't like do you feel like they're getting
justice like the victims? No, but I don't know
that they ever could have. You're right. Cause
there's so much trauma there. Like, how do you
unpack that? And like, how do you heal from that?
But like, unless they took him to civil court
for pain and suffering, like they were never
going to get a settlement or anything. I don't
know. Yeah. It just sucks. Like, I'm just mad
about it. And like, I was talking to my dad about
this. We're like, how would you feel if either
a, it was, me or Zachary that you had to like
go into that courtroom and like and be on our
side and try and defend us like if we had done
allegedly such horrific acts or B how would you
feel if we were the victims and like there was
nothing you could do and I'm going to be really
honest I don't care about the racketeering charges
I don't care at all about that like I care about
like What you did to people, allegedly. I'm just,
I'm not, I'm just, ugh. It's a power dynamic
thing, obviously. And all I can think about is
Cassie, the poor girl, like. Oh my God, I know.
Thank God for her new husband, who's an absolute
angel from God. You know, he did, he ran like
a full marathon or a 5K or something to support.
victims of sexual abuse and like stop to give
cassie a hug on his run bless his heart he is
a little angel and he is so sweet he's like done
nothing but support her he's never done anything
to act like insecure about it or like he doesn't
want to talk about it he's like always just shown
up in support of her and i think that's so hot
and i'm happy that she's got someone who she
can be more comfortable with. And that's all
I'll say about Diddy. Diddy does not deserve
any more of our time. 100%. Anna Wintour is stepping
down as the editor -in -chief of Vogue. She had
to. I'm going to be so honest. She's fallen off
so hard in the last few years. The last Met Gala
she went to, she had a stain on her dress. She's
just started a fall from grace, and I'm glad
that she was at least... aware enough to know
that it was her time well that and like i i think
the entire print media industry is having a fall
from grace too i mean like you're you took over
vogue in what 1988 so like she's been around
for 36 years and like your entire year was planned
around basically the the september issue and
it's like that print media that that fanfare
for that one time of year doesn't really exist
anymore in like this world of fast fashion and
it's part of it's kind of sad because it's like
you're seeing an entire industry that's worth
like 3 .6 trillion dollars die yeah and like
and she was kind of the face of that because
I mean she called the shots and she decided like
what fashion was and like I mean I know there
was like a team but like she was that was like
her thing and it's like what does she do now
I guess Yeah, I mean, hopefully just retire.
Vogue's been paying her well for 36 years. I
think she'll probably retire. I will say, with
the fall of print media, I do respect Vogue for
trying to enter the space of fashion via social
media. They've gotten the girls to do their,
like... getting ready videos and the you know
whatever and all of those and i think that's
cute um i like the what is it like 90 questions
oh yeah the thing where they like follow you
around the house yeah that is vogue yeah yeah
i think those are cute i i do like that they've
tried to like enter a space where it's more accessible
to the age that is supposed to be accessible
to, you know, I started reading Vogue when I
was like 13. Do you think that when they presented
that idea to Anna Wintour, it was just like a
knockdown drag out fight saying, I'm not doing
this like TikTok trash and like, look what it's
turned into. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it took some
convincing. I think that's part of like why she
had to go is because. She's so old fashioned
and so used to the old way of doing things that
it would be really hard, I think, for anyone
to adjust to this sort of hate me for saying
it, but cheaper version of things where it's
like you're trying to appeal to the masses by
saying you're just like them instead of trying
to appeal to the masses by being as fabulous
as possible. Right. Like it's a very different.
mindset no for sure it's like I that's the thing
is like I don't I think back to like you know
like what the 80s the 90s represented and even
like the mid -2000s where like fashion was aspirational
and it was like Vogue and Harper's Bazaar and
it was like the models and like the whole thing
and like right now I couldn't name a model besides
Naomi Campbell like and I don't I think of her
as like a model right now. Do you know what I
mean? Yeah. I mean, my mind automatically goes
Bella Hadid, Alex Kansani, all of those, that
group. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. But even with
them, social media has gotten us to a point of
believing that everything is attainable for ourselves.
Like people really aren't interested in anything
that they can't. Or their daddy can't buy for
them. You know, like Bella Hadid is like one
of the most famous models in the world. And she's
like tagging where she gets her outfits from
and stuff like that, because that's what people
want. People want to see someone. And it's always
been you see someone and I want to be just like
her. But we've lost the formula of like trying
to figure that out on your own. And now are like,
well, she got that from here and I can get it
from here. And she got that bag from here and
I can find that bag and I can. Oh, like it's
just an influencer's world. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone
wants to be an influencer. And like, I get it.
I thought we're trying to do it. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, yeah. Like, I'm not judging anyone. I'm
just saying, like, the mindset has completely
shifted. there's like little to no individuality
now outside of like, who do you idolize? I don't
know. I think it's funny. Like when you say,
who do you idolize? And like, I feel like I'm
not like a normal person when it comes to this.
Cause like you say, who do you idolize? And I'm
like, Bethany Frankel. Like she's my hero. But
no, I hear what you're saying. Like 15 to 22
year olds. Sure. Like, the impressionable crowd
who's, like, still trying to figure themselves
out. I think that's who, like, they have no,
they're like, I like Bella Hadid and I like whatever
big influencers. I like Alex Earl and I like.
whoever else and I'm gonna dress exactly like
them to the point where I'm going to buy my outfits
from the same stores where they bought theirs
I'm it's like much more copy and paste than it
used to be at least in my opinion no that's fair
it's and it's funny that you brought up Bella
Hadid and her sister Gigi because like I literally
only know them from the Real Housewives of Beverly
Hills because of Yolanda Foster yeah I didn't
even Like clock them being in Real Housewives
until recently. I don't know. Like Bella Hadid
specifically. She's like so cool girl. She's
very cool. Riding her horses and smoking a cigarette
with a glass of red wine. Like she's so hot.
She is. I think everyone wants to be like her.
And it's like, why wouldn't you? She's like the
coolest bitch in the world. No, totally. It's
so funny, though. I remember walking by the Burberry
store when there was still one in Indy and I
walked by it and I was like, oh, my God, that's
Yolanda Foster's daughter. And the person that
was with me was like, are you being fucking serious
right now? She's very much her own girl now.
But that that is funny because it all comes from
Yolanda. It does. I mean, Bella Hadid started
getting work done when she was very young. Well,
if you look a little bit under the surface there,
it is not ideal. Oh. Go ahead. You know about
the almond mom thing? If you're about to say
what I think, because I was literally about to
say exactly what you think, or I think you're
going to say, but go ahead. So like. Yolanda
Hadid is the OG almond mom. Almond moms are the
ones who are like, wait till you're hungry and
then eat one almond. Oh, I've got one better
for you. It was Bella or Gigi's. I think it was
Gigi's birthday. And they were showing her party
on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She
said, oh, I'm going to have a piece of cake for
my birthday. And the way that I watched Yolanda
Foster's or what appeared to be an eating disorder
live on television. And I have never been so
triggered in my entire life because she let her
daughter take one bite of it and said, that's
it. That's enough. Yeah. I mean, that was really
sad because it is obvious that she kind of put
it on her daughters that they need to be model
sized and they need to do this and they need
to do that. to be skinny, like for no other goal,
not health, not wealth to be skinny period. Cause
that's your paycheck. Yeah. It's sad. It's sad.
And it is kind of sad to see like how well it
works, but to be fair, they're both by themselves.
Very successful. Oh, absolutely. But to be fair
to Yolanda, that was the world she grew up in.
Like she was a model in the late eighties, early
nineties. Like, and that was like, I mean, you
had the model houses where like they, had a cigarette
and, like, a grape, and that was their meal.
Yeah, 100%. And it's hard to judge that group
of women. I mean, we're talking about Naomi Campbell
in the 90s. We're talking about all of them who
had all of these very unhealthy habits. They
were getting drunk via their buttholes and stuff
like that. Oh, yeah. Models are where butt chugging
came from. They put it up their butt. That's
a real thing. Uh -huh. Oh my Christ. I always
thought that was just a joke. No, and I read
about models eating cotton balls because you
can't really digest it, but it'll fill you up.
Oh Jesus Christ. Let me just put this disclaimer
out there for anyone listening to this. Please
don't do that. Do not do any of that. It is so
harmful to your health, and it's not worth it
to be skinny. Or just be comfortable in your
body, and you're okay. You are perfect just the
way you are. Yeah, you are perfect the way you
are. There's no reason to want to change yourself,
especially to the point of harming yourself.
That's so counterintuitive. But the point I'm
trying to make is that when you grow up around
that and you want to be in that industry, it's
hard to judge. Oh, totally. Because that was
so normalized 20 years ago. Oh, 100%. And that's
I think that ended with the whole like heroin
chic going out of style. I think that's when
that lifestyle also went out of style. I'm thrilled
about that because I didn't believe that was
I had no idea that was a thing. So that's terrifying.
One day we need to get into my granny and Sue
and like the relationship with food there because.
We should have a relationship with food segment
in an episode. Oh, yeah. That might be a whole
episode one day, actually. There's a lot to unpack.
I mean, because even parents who think they're
doing the right thing can give you a bad relationship
with food. Oh, yeah. And it's hard. That's a
hard thing to navigate, even as an adult, your
relationship with food for a lot of people. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm very happy for Bella
and Gigi, and I'm glad it worked out for them,
but it is hard to see a mom act like that. Oh,
yeah. Do you want to be mad, or do you want to
laugh at the universe conspiring against me?
Either one. Let's start with the fun one first,
and then we'll roll into the disaster. So I wholeheartedly
believe that the universe is conspiring. against
me to aggravate the living fuck out of me so
you know i'm trying to teach myself how to swim
um i was at lifetime two days ago at this point
and the lap pool at lifetime was closed i guess
for like maintenance or i don't know i don't
care why it was closed and there was a class
going on in the other pool where I had the option
to swim. So I said, I'm just going to hang out
here. I'm going to sit down and I'm going to
disassociate on TikTok until this little class
is over. And then I'm going to hop right in that
pool. This man comes out of the locker rooms
that like lead directly into the lap pool. And
he looks at the sign that says lap pool closed.
And I'm sitting. facing the lap pool like on
the bench thing and this man turns around and
he looks at me and he goes is the pool closed
I said um yeah it looks like it and then I went
right back to my phone I had my beats in I was
not giving the signal that I was in the mood
to have a conversation so then he goes well is
it going to be closed all day and I said I don't
know I'm not sure sir um And then I looked back
at my phone and he goes, well, what are people
doing if they want to swim? And I was like, well,
I'm waiting for this class to be over and then
I'm going to hop in that pool. And he goes, well,
is it going to be closed all day? And he just
kept saying, is it going to be closed all day?
I do wonder if being seated by a pool while a
class was going on, if you were giving lifeguard.
I was wearing chubby swim trunks with palm trees
on them and they were pink. I don't know that
a man would care. Got it. OK, I don't know. But
you're also on your phone and that's not giving
lifeguard. I don't know. But also imagine being
so fit and hot that they assume you work there.
Love that for me. But he just kept saying. Is
it going to be closed all day? And I got to the
point where I just stopped acknowledging him.
And then he looks me dead in the face and he
goes, I don't even know why I try anymore. And
then he throws his hands up in the air and like
storms off. And I don't know why you try either,
sir. Right. And I was just like, and I never
once considered that maybe he thought I worked
there. So like, I will give you that. But the
sense of entitlement to be like. I'm just going
to keep asking a question that this guy has like
already let me know that he does not know the
answer to. And like, I still am looking for an
answer. Like go talk to the front desk, go like
literally go anywhere else, but like stop bothering
me. And like, I don't understand people who act
like that. Like you think you're going to magically
get what you want the 65th time. Right. And also
the pool says it's fucking closed on the sign.
Like. Hello? You're an unstoppable force meeting
an immovable object. What do you want, sir? I
don't know what he wanted you to say. Because
also, if you did work there, if he found someone
who worked there and he asked them and the pool
was going to be open four hours later, are you
going to sit around and wait for four hours?
Why do you want to know if it's going to be closed
all day? Right. Or conceptually. Take the advice
of the guy you've been harassing and wait the
four minutes for that class to be over and just
hop in the other pool. It's just not that deep.
Yeah, literally. Oh, it isn't. Actually, it's
four feet versus six feet. But goddamn. It's
going to be okay. You can still swim in it. Guess
what, buddy? Everything's going to be okay. Do
you want to complain? Yeah, I do want to complain.
I want you to go first. Today I'm complaining
about Love Island, which maybe could have saved
itself for our reality roundup if I didn't just
want to bitch about it. No one knows how to communicate
with each other anymore. No one understands how
to date or what they owe people. I'm so tired
of the phrase, I don't owe anything to anybody.
Yes, you do. You owe everyone you run into basic
human decency. Okay, okay. You owe everyone you
run into grace. and the same type of treatment
you would like to enjoy from them. That is what
you owe people. I also am so tired of this narrative
of needing to be a girl's girl on Love Island.
You're on Love Island. You guys are all dating
the same guys. I understand that you should always
want to stand up for your girls. Yes, I get it.
I think it would be beautiful for you all to
be friends, but it is so obvious that this season
they're trying to rip off last season with this
group that was Leah, Serena, and Janae. They
were all, all three of those girls are massively
famous now. And it is so very clear that three
of the girls on this season are trying to become
that. But they're bullies. They are bullying
this girl. Okay, so to summarize what happened.
This girl, Huda. They're like split off at Castle
Amour. I'm not even going to explain that to
you. But they're at Castle Amour. Shelly is connecting
with this guy, but she knows deep down she likes
the guy she has back at the main villa better.
So then Huda confronts her as she should and
says, hey, I'm interested in this guy that you're
seeing, Chris. I want to bring him back to the
villa. Huda tells Shelly to her face, I'm interested
in the guy you're talking to. Shelly is like,
okay, cool, because I'm more interested in the
other guy back at the villa anyway. Bring him
on home with you, girl. And everyone's very honest
with each other, which I really respect. Chris
is like, I'm going to pursue both of you. I want
to get to know both of you. Whatever. And then
he decides one day Shelly isn't giving like reciprocating
the energy that he's giving her. So he's going
to stop trying to pursue her. He likes Huda.
Huda likes him. They make out. Beautiful. Love
that for them. Then we get to last night's episode,
which is basically everyone wrote these postcards
to other people in the villa to air shit out.
And Shelly has the nerve to go up on a podium
and say they had a conversation where Huda said
she was just bringing Chris back for her. For
Shelly. Like she was only bringing this man back
so that Shelly could pursue him still. Baby,
it's love fucking island. I know. That's not
even how the conversation went, first of all.
That's not how it went. And I don't know, there's
been other drama to kind of add color to this.
But it's like, I just feel like there are some
girls on Love Island right now who are not used
to being jealous. And they don't know how to
handle that emotion. Like, Shelly is so beautiful.
In real life. That it seems to me. Let me show
you a picture of her. But it seems to me. Shelly
said. Mm -hmm. C -H -E -L -L -E -Y. Oh, my God.
She is so beautiful. She's stunning. Like, absolutely
drop dead gorgeous. Wait, and she's the girl
that. She's the girl who's like, you told me
you were going to bring Chris back just so I
could still talk to him. Oh, she's never been
insecure a day in her life. That's what I'm saying.
She's never been jealous before. And she doesn't
know how to like confront those emotions. Yes.
And it's become very obvious on this season,
and it's making me sad. You are not there for
every girl to kiss your feet and every man to
kiss your ass. Like, that's not how it works.
You're on Love Island. Everyone is dating everyone.
She's simply not familiar, though. I just can't.
And I can't believe I'm defending Huda because
she's the one who's a mom and was crashing out
and all of this. Oh, okay. See. But she has owned
up to that. She's been like, I've made mistakes.
I'm sorry for acting like that. I'm trying to
grow and improve myself. Okay. On Love Island.
Yes. I. Like, it's all kind of silly because
it's on Love Island at all. But I'm like, how
are you not understanding that you are bullying
this girl? Because they were coming at her talking
about they're not giving her this. She's not
giving them the same treatments she expects from
them and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I don't know what anyone expects going on to
Love Island. I think that's a big conversation
we need to have is we need to align our expectations
with reality. 100%. And I think it would be beautiful
if you all could be friends and get along. I
think it would even make the whole thing better
for everyone to kind of get along and be honest
about what they're feeling and how they're feeling.
But there's been so much catty. and pettiness
and weirdness this season and also there's this
girl who's just like sitting back and laughing
ha ha he he every time this girl is bullied and
I'm like you don't want anyone to start pointing
the finger at you no Anyway, that is my complaint.
Love Island this season in general is pissing
me off. There's too much drama. No one understands
how to communicate with each other. No one understands.
And I blame dating apps. I 100 % blame dating
apps. Okay. Because I think it has twisted our
brains into thinking that all you have to do
is be the hottest person there. And and that's
it. All of the men will fall for you. You'll
have your pick of the bunch and you don't need
to do anything. I think it also has added this
like weird. You can tell everyone there is concerned
about how America is viewing them. And so they're
all playing it like too cool for school. Trying
to show off almost. No one's being like as vulnerable
as they should be, except for my queen, Amaya.
Anyway, that's it. I just need to get that off
my chest. It's driving me crazy. Anyone who watches
Love Island will know what I'm talking about.
If you like it, I love it. I'm going to complain
about the. Monthly song and dance. I have to
go through to get my Adderall refilled. Dear
listener, you've probably picked up on the fact
that I have unhinged ADHD and I need a pill or
two, depending on the day to get through the
day. So what the and anyone who. Takes Adderall
or any controlled substance, controlled substance
gets this. And I'm going to start by saying I
understand that there's a high potential for
abuse of these drugs. And that's why some of
these situations and systems are in place. I
get that. It does not change how frustrating
it is. So not at all. Not at all. I would argue
they're controlled substances because they work.
And so the people who need them need them. Sure.
Anyway, maybe. But you have when we shared an
office, you have sat there and listened to what
it takes to get a prescription refilled. So the
initial prescription goes from your doctor to
the pharmacy. Everyone knows how that works,
right? 30 days goes by. A person with ADHD has
to run out of his ADHD medication and then remember,
oh, I have to call the pharmacy on the day that
I run out because they will not schedule it for
later. They will not do it. Then you have to
go through the whole song and dance of do you
have it in stock because there's an Adderall
shortage still and that's been going on for two
years and I don't know why that's a thing. And
then you have to go through the whole song and
dance of, oh, well, we don't have it in stock.
Oh, well, you have to call your doctor and have
it sent to another pharmacy. We can't send it
for you and we won't tell you what other pharmacies
have it in stock. And then three months goes
by and you've. you've used your three refills
at the pharmacy so then you have to call your
doctor and then you have to talk to a nurse named
brenda who does not like you and has never liked
you and she is so mean to you every time she
picks up the phone and talks to you and you just
have to deal with it because she is the gatekeeper
between you and getting the medicine that helps
you function and that's what i'm complaining
about today I just really don't understand. I
don't understand why they won't do automatic
refills. I understand that it's a controlled
substance, but if you wait 30 days to refill
it, that's still, you're regulating the use,
right? Like, I don't understand that at all.
I don't either. In the least. And what really,
like, gets to me is, like, ADHD, so many people
cannot function without Adderall. Like, they
cannot do it. But also other controlled substances
like pain medication and things like that. Like
you are just letting people suffer. For what?
For what, diva? For what? For what? Because you
think people are going to take some extra pills?
The people who are really concerned about this
are the people who really need them. You know,
well, and that's I don't know if they're even
concerned about people taking extra pills, because
I don't know that they care about what happens
with the pills once they leave the pharmacy.
I don't know that there's any interest in it
whatsoever. And I understand there's a lot more
to it than I know. But. I just know that there
has to be a better way to do this. There has
to be. You're literally everyone who needs a
controlled substance. If you need it and that's
why you're prescribed it, you are suffering at
the mercy of a pharmacy. I just don't understand
it. You're suffering at the mercy of a pharmacy
or a nurse, a nurse named Brenda that hates you.
Yeah. Are you ready for reality roundup? Yes.
Perfect. Before we get into Mormon wives, I want
to talk about Meredith Marks. And how she's a
DJ. Yeah. Yes. I love her tour she did for Pride
Month. She looks cool as fuck. And those arms
are toned. I I there's something about Meredith
Marks where she just makes me so happy. Like
there's there's a love there that I've never
known or understood from anyone else but Meredith
Marks. And the fact that she said. I'm going
to I'm going to go make the gays happy today
with my music and my little songs. And do you
know what she's DJing is deep cuts of Britney
Spears and then remixes of Lisa Barlow calling
Meredith Marks a poser fan or like her family
that poses and a piece of shit, garbage whore.
And she said, I'm going to monetize the ever
loving fuck out of this. And I'm so happy, and
I want her to have everything. She just exudes
that she is herself. Like, she is so genuine.
She is not pretending for anyone. No, not at
all. Which makes it so ironic that Lisa Barlow
called her a poser and her whole family posers,
because she's so not that. No, not at all. She's
just like, you can tell she's always been herself,
period, dot done. And also... I've noticed from
watching Salt Lake City, she is exceedingly self
-aware. She knows herself. Yes. And I think that
makes people mad because she's comfortable with
herself. A hundred percent. And she's like, I
know how I'll react to this, so I just need a
second. Or she'll be like, I know that if this
goes too far, I will start yelling. Like, she
is so self -aware, and I really admire that about
her. Yes. And that we will get into in a couple
weeks. Because we're going to start recapping
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Yay! All that
being said, real or sorry, Secret Lives of Mormon
Wives, season two, episode five, The Book of
Divisions. OK, so this episode, I don't. I don't
know how I felt about this episode, honestly,
like there was a lot. So we pick back up at Provisions
where Macy's having her book announcement and.
I you and I decided we are going to talk about
the book when it drops in October. And I've already
preordered it on my Kindle. So there's that.
And we pick up where we left off, where they
have the card from the truth box that's talking
about Jen being fake. And no one's allowed to
say who wrote or who wrote it. And then Jen starts
crying. And it's a really lovely way to end the
dinner. Yeah. I just don't understand the truth
box thing. If it's not to stir up drama, what
is it for? It's certainly not to get shit off
your chest. It's to hurt people's feelings. No,
it's 100 % for funsies to hurt people. And that's,
by the way, just own it because I'm happy about
it. I love the truth box. Do your truth box.
I think if that's what you want to do, that's
what you want to do. I don't know. I don't know.
I think it's cowardly not to sign it, too. You
should own up to who wrote it. But I think that's
the whole point. It's, like, it's anonymous.
I know, but, like, if you're going to say shit
like, Jen's fit. I hate Demi. Like, just such
vague shit like that. At least own up to it so
you can talk about it. That's fair. I don't know.
Anyway. Whitney. Whitney at that party was cracking.
Whitney was a silly goose at that party. She
said, everyone, I'm having a baby shower. Come
to the baby shower. There's going to be bunnies.
Jesus Christ. I was so dead. Whitney, read the
room. Whitney can't read. I'm just going to say
that right now. Whitney cannot read a room. No,
she can't. So everyone leaves. Even though I'm
not really a big fan of gin. I do think Whitney
and Miranda were being incredibly good friends
to her. And Jen in her confessional asked, why
are these women doing this to me? I honestly
feel like. Oh, wait, sorry. OK, so Jen in her
confessional asked, why are these women doing
this to me? And I feel like she wants blind support
to do and say literally anything that she wants
to do. And I think that's what she's mad about,
is that that's not what she is getting from these
girls. I don't know. I think that none of them
have really told her exactly how they feel. None
of them have really, I mean, Jesse and Demi kind
of, but even they didn't really say it to her.
They said to Zach more clearly what problems
they had with Jen. And they're not really saying
it to her face. They're just saying that they're
mad at her in general. Do you see what I'm saying?
Like no one has sat her down and been like, I
feel like you lied about this. I feel like you
lied about that. You shouldn't have to sit someone
down. You shouldn't have to sit an adult down
and be like, hey, you're a compulsive liar. You
need to stop lying. I mean, I get that. But also
like if I put myself in her shoes and someone
just starts calling me fake anonymously, if I'm
like not aware of what you're talking about,
I'm going to start spiraling. What the fuck do
you mean by that? I don't know. I don't know.
OK, OK. I just I felt bad because I also, you
know, I'm looking back on it now and knowing
that, you know, she was pregnant and all of that.
But she is very dramatic about the whole thing.
She is. Miranda says that she thinks that the
card was written by either Demi, Michaela or
Layla. And we find out later that who wrote it.
Whitney and Miranda go to a flower shop and Whitney
talks more about how she's having a baby shower
after the baby was born because the gender was
a surprise. And I was always under the impression
that you only get a baby shower for your first
baby. Am I completely wrong? So. Most of the
time, yeah. But, like, I'm going to have another
baby shower, even though it's my second baby,
because it's been... It's been seven years, though.
And it's Kenny's first baby. Sure. So I think
there are differences. But when you're having
your babies back -to -back, like Whitney is,
I don't understand it. You still have all the
stuff. Right. Like, I don't know what... I don't
know. Okay. If you want an excuse to have a party,
that's fine. If you like it, I love it. But also,
is it... This is like a thing that genuinely
bothers me when people say after baby's here
rather than saying after the baby is here. Yeah,
like baby is their name. Yeah. I don't know why
people do that. And like to no end because it's
like that's just how people talk about babies.
And I'm like. Yeah. You have to put the in front
of the baby unless you're going to say its name.
I do think some people do that in place of saying
he or she, especially if they decided not to
find out the gender. The baby is already born.
She knew what the fucking gender was. I thought
she was still pregnant in that. No? No, because
she's having the baby shower after Billy was
born. Right. Which, number one. a baby shower
after the baby's already there is cheating Jesus
Christ it's so weird yeah I don't know but yeah
I know some people have like use baby almost
as like a pronoun when they don't know the gender
and that I can kind of understand but why can't
you just say they I don't know I hate it um when
he invites everyone to the baby shower but like
only two so Miranda and Jen are the ones that
show up and She's happy about that because she's
getting closer to them and she desperately needs
friends right now. Yeah. I wrote down that Miranda
is so pretty and she just looks like a really
cool girl. Like, I want to be friends with her.
She's so stunning. And also, I need access to
her closet ASAP. She always has a fit on. She
looks good all the time. She's so fucking cool,
though. Like, she's so cool. I really like Miranda.
I do. I also wrote down that Whitney needs a
stylist because she struggles with what Miranda
excels in. Yeah, that's really hard. I can kind
of relate to Whitney a little bit on like after
you have a baby and your body changes, it does
get like harder to dress yourself. But Miranda's
had a baby, too. So I don't know. I don't know.
I can see being becoming a mom doesn't immediately
tell you to start running around with a sweater
with. yarn bows on it yeah that's just not a
thing that happens i don't think i'm not a mom
i could be wrong no i forgot about that uh yeah
she really has a hard time dressing herself we
just watched the i won't jump ahead we'll we'll
get into it we'll get into it but yeah she really
does need some closet assistance so when he sends
a group text to try and plan something really
nice for Macy for her little pickleball thing,
which I think is really cool. Like, like I know
I had a hard time with Whitney, but like, I think
she's actually making, making an effort with
at least some of the girls, but it does give
a little bit like she's kissing feet. Cause she
wants to be back in the group. But that's what
they want her to do. Like you, she can't win
for losing. She had to, well, not even, she didn't
have to, but like they're almost, well, she did,
but. They're almost demanding it. And then when
she does it, they're saying it's desperate. And
that's what I have a hard time with because you're
gaslighting her. There's nothing she could have
done correctly. She was put in a situation where
she was very damned if she does, damned if she
doesn't. And to be fair, it's her fault. I won't
take that away from anyone else. But there has
to come a point where you say. I'm not going
to be a mean girl, and I'm just going to, like,
we're going to figure it out. Because, like,
Michaela especially is being a fucking asshole.
Yeah. 100%. I do feel like they're making her
earn that second chance, honey. Like, bullying
her a little bit. Oh, yeah. Taylor goes to her
mom's house, and we get a flashback of Taylor's
rotten stepdad, who I literally never want to
see again. I hope he's never on the show again.
I honestly hope that what he said at that cookout
makes him never on camera again. No, I can definitively
tell you the producers when that happened, they
have never been so happy in their entire lives
because they said, oh, this man is out of his
mind and he will say whatever comes to his mind.
Well, it's a talking point, right? Like we're
talking about it, you know, like it. draws attention
yeah but you know what else drew attention was
probably him on january 6th allegedly this is
my opinion i'm not getting sued yeah i would
just like to know where he was i i just want
to know i don't like him i don't like him at
all um they talk about taylor posting tiktoks
that would suggest she's getting back together
with with dakota and then aspen asks if they're
still having sex and taylor's honest about it
Yeah, I. OK, as weird as it is to talk about
out loud, I was glad that they said that out
loud. And then in the confessionals, both Taylor
and Dakota were honest about the fact that they're
still having sex because it makes it so much
clearer. what is going on you know what i mean
like that line was a little hard to follow like
who in the world would stay around this man like
what is happening but now that you know that
they're still having sex it all starts to make
sense yeah it kind of clicks but you know what
i could have done without was yeah it was Leanne
saying, oh, try your vibrator. And then they
like start to joke about it. And she's like,
I don't like hearing this. I don't want to hear
this. I don't want to hear this. And I'm like,
bitch, you brought it up. You're the one who
just told your mom you're having sex. No, no,
no. Leanne is the one that got weird about it.
Oh. And she's the one that brought it up. Leanne,
honestly, honey, you're going to have to draw
a boundary at some point of like, are you a mom
or are you a friend? Are you trying to be your
daughter? Are you anyway? Well, that's that's
another conversation. Yeah. I just I don't understand
Leanne. She's so. I don't know. She's like so
lenient about talking about some things and then
some things she's like, oh, no. Why would you
say that to your mom? It's like it's a thing
where she's like removed enough from the church.
But like she like. wakes up from being removed
from the church to where she's like oh i'm weird
about it but then like i also feel like she's
on camera and she's like the optics of this people
are gonna see this like it's there's a lot we'll
get into it eventually like when i start talking
about like the church and how fucked up some
of this stuff is but that's i can definitively
tell you that's what it is and once we recap
the last episode there's more to say about leanne
oh absolutely um Whitney calls Macy because Michaela
posted a TikTok that was a little hateful and
Macy showed up in it. And I feel like Michaela
is going too far here. And I think Whitney handled
the conversation with or I think Macy handled
the conversation with Whitney really well. I
think they both handled it very well. My queen.
Macy is so full of grace and elegance. I love
her so much. Macy can do no wrong in my eyes
as far as I'm concerned. Whitney decides she
wants to talk to Michaela one -on -one before
the girls trip. And I'm just like, God bless.
Like that's, that's brave of you. And. Yeah.
And then Whitney says, mom talk is driven by
love and unity. And I wonder if she's going to
keep this same level of energy going into the
end of the season. She didn't have that energy
last season when she was talking shit about all
her friends. Number one. And number two. I feel
like Michaela's just kind of a coward. Like,
I feel like she doesn't want Whitney in the group.
And instead of just saying that out loud to anyone,
she's just bullying the ever -loving fuck out
of her to try to make her go away. Because she
doesn't want to be responsible for Whitney not
being in MomTalk, but she... Doesn't want her
there. Exactly. She wants it to be Whitney's
decision. So she's going to make it as uncomfortable
as possible. Yeah. So she's like being mean out
loud and like making it as crazy as she possibly
can without ever just saying out loud, I'm not
comfortable with Whitney here. Right. You could
have just said that to all the girls and I bet
they would have figured it out. Yeah. It's that
simple. Just communicate diva. Whitney has wronged
other girls in the group, too. Like, I don't.
For sure. I don't understand it. But, like, also,
you have to have a villain. And, like, at some
point, I think you just kind of have to accept
that, like. Someone's got to stay the call. Someone's,
yeah. Or nothing will happen. And also. You're
going to have to be involved in life with people
that you don't like sometimes, and you have the
right to remove yourself from the situation,
but you can't just be an asshole because it's
ugly. I think that's where Michaela's cowardice
kind of comes from, is I do think she's kind
of afraid that if she says she wants Whitney
out, they'll boot her instead. Oh, okay. I get
that, yeah. Well, we'll see how it shakes out.
But I think the girls really like Michaela. I
think that she just can't see that she's well
-liked. No, I think she just needs to grow up
a little bit. A hundred percent. And I mean,
a lot has happened in her life to make her kind
of juvenile for her age. But girl, I did not
like, I did not see the side of her last season
either. Like I thought she was very just chill.
I wonder if she was this way in like high school
and college and like. if this is just how she
treated other people and this just feels normal
to her like if you don't like someone this is
how you act to them yeah yeah i don't know they're
all very young michaela and jen especially so
i feel like maybe she really just is in that
stage of life like i wasn't training people like
this at 24 no no certainly not certainly not
um Jesse and Demi go to Pilates, and Jesse expects
people to believe that she only works out one
to two days a year, which is a blatant fucking
lie. If she only works out one to two days a
year, she's getting cool sculpting the other
360 days a year. Like, she looks... Incredible.
And maybe she has good genetics. Maybe like whatever.
Some people are naturally skinny, but she's not
just skinny. She has like toned muscles. Yeah.
Like I don't buy it. I just can't buy it. I don't.
Or maybe she's like does a lot of housework or
something. I don't know. Well, she's on her feet
all day at the salon. I'll buy that. But like
standing doesn't. tone you yeah i will say like
doing hair kind of does like work out your arms
okay that's fair yeah but like but you've got
incredible legs she goes to these workout classes
and she's not struggling she's not like no she's
like and she's also so fucking hot like i know
I wonder if part of it is like she can't like
take credit for the work she puts in and she's
just like, I don't know. It just happens like
which. Yeah. I kind of hate people like that.
But at the same time, like the church will do
that to you. I get it. I do. And I do feel like
she grinds the fuck out. I feel like she if she's
working out, she's waking up at like 5 a .m.,
working out, going to the salon all day and then
coming home to her husband. Like, that's a lot.
Oh, yeah. In, like, an everyday routine. Plus,
she's filming this show. Mm -hmm. Like, that's
a lot. Um, Jesse and Demi decide they're not
going to Whitney's baby shower, so instead they're
going to do a hibachi night for everyone not
going, and I fucking love hibachi so much. Me
too. I've had hibachi twice in, like, the last
two weeks. I'm so I love Hibashi. I love the
whole song and dance. I love the show. I love.
Yeah, I love the theatrics. The catching the
piece of chicken in your mouth. I love it. Jesse
thinks it's weird that Whitney invited the group
because it's assumed that half the girls weren't.
won't show up but again i feel like if anyone
had been left out of the invite it would have
been a whole thing so i feel like whitney cannot
win for losing demi is being so petty and again
it's whitney being damned if she does damned
if she doesn't because like you would have been
mad if you didn't get an invitation it's an olive
branch she is inviting you to celebrate her baby
It's an olive branch. You don't have to accept
it. You don't have to grab the olive branch.
But you don't have to be such a petty bitch about
it either. She's such a bitch. God. And I hate
saying that about a woman, but Demi. Not about
Demi. I do not feel bad about that. She is a
bitch. God. And Demi says she wants a calm, chill
girls trip. Shut the fuck up. No, you don't.
You've never wanted a calm, chill trip in your
entire fucking life. This is what you live for.
You live for discourse in the group. And the
second that you feel the effects of that, then
you get on the cross. You love this shit, though.
I just feel like like this scene is such a good
example of why I feel this way. The whole time
I was watching season two, Demi specifically
is so scripted. Like she's thought about what
she wants to say long before she was ever in
front of the camera. She gives script. I would
go as far as to say that she paid writers to
write some of this for her. A hundred percent.
Or she just like hopped on chat GPT. Maybe. She,
I swear to God. Famously your best friend. This
kind of gets confirmed in the reunion, which
we'll get to. But like, yeah, she wants to control
this narrative so badly that I genuinely think
she's coming up with what she's going to say
to her friends before she's ever there, which
is just weird. It is. So we go to Jen and Zach
and apparently Jen's living in an Airbnb. love
that for her i guess um she talks in her confessional
about how she chose mom talk and how she feels
like she made a bad choice and i'm like mom talk
or being a member of mom talk does not require
you to lie to everyone i do not understand why
you feel like mom talk is the problem here because
you have made the decision to lie to everyone
that you and your friends come across yes Everyone
you love, you have lied to. Everyone that you
hate, you've lied to. Yeah, and I don't understand
this whole... They're acting like you signed
a contract to be in MomTalk. You're just in a
group that makes TikToks and is now on Hulu.
You're not signing away your rights or anything.
It's so strange because no other friend group...
that I've ever witnessed is like, I just want
to be part of this name that we've made up. Like
it's so strange to me. And it's like, mom talks,
not the problem. And Zach's not the problem.
We talk about this all the time. It's the difference
in values between the two. You got to pick one.
Right. Yeah. I, I mean, I, she can, she's a liar.
Like I, I do think that. Yeah, there is a difference
in values between her and Zach, but I also do
think Zach is part of the problem. I don't think
in this scenario, I think that he is an innocent
bystander, but I think that he contributes to
the problem. Well, and you have to see like why
she wasn't comfortable with telling him the whole
truth about the Chippendales thing is because
she knew how he would react. Yes, that is true.
So it's like, yes, she's lying. but to some point
I can see what led her to do that. And not that
it was ever okay for her to do, but I can see
why that was the easy way out for her. Absolutely.
Because she knows that her husband doesn't agree
with what's going on in mom talk. Right. It's
that simple. I don't know. Um, she feels like
Jesse and Demi are trying to get the girls to
turn against her. And I feel like we have found
ourselves in a situation where jan is not living
in the same reality as we are she just needs
some accountability yes she just needs to hold
herself accountable for what she's done and it's
okay to say okay yeah i haven't been the best
friend i haven't been the best wife and then
explain yourself girl be like i feel like I have
my hands in two pots and they don't get along.
Just say that out loud. And I bet your friends
and your husband who all want you to be happy
will accommodate you. I think to some extent,
both sides would try to accommodate you if they
knew how you were feeling. Well, and if mom talk
is truly all about lifting other women up and
doing that, I think if you're honest about that,
you will be met with. Grace. Grace and like open
arms and love. But instead, you are doing everything
in your power to fuck that up. It's almost like
she's trying to create a facade and she's just
not good at it. Yes. I agree. Jesse goes to meet
up with Jen and I literally wrote Jesse is so
pretty and I feel like she does such a good job
talking in her confessionals. Her eyes are so
blue. Have you ever noticed that? They're like.
bright blue they're stunning and i don't think
it's contacts i've never noticed her eyes specifically
but i i like i look at her and i'm just like
i'm looking at the face of an angel i am looking
into a face that was sculpted by the lord and
a little bit by heather but perhaps but here
we are but she looks stunning she looks stunning
she is gorgeous And listen, if you use some of
your millions of dollars to help you look gorgeous,
I support you. I support that. In the car with
Zach on the way to meet Jessie, Jen says that
the girls haven't seen the other side of her
and that she was raised in the hood. Oh, cringe,
cringe, cringe, cringe, cringe. I've never cringed
so hard in my life. When she said, meet me outside.
How about that? I said, oh, Jesus Christ, Jen,
you. What really got me was when she says, yeah,
I was born in Provo, but I was raised in the
hood. I love that Zach has to remind her like,
hey, we're not related to Ben Affleck. We're
not. You were born in Provo, Utah. I do think
that. For as many faults as Zach has. He lives
in reality. He does live to tie Jen back to Earth.
I mean, someone has to. So she shows up to this.
I think it's a dessert place. I don't know. But
Jen tries to spin the situation into one where
Jesse is genuinely trying to hurt her. And Jesse
flat out gets to the point where she says, you
are a liar. You are the liar in this situation.
So at this point, Jen has heard it. I feel like
we've really lost the plot when it comes to this
whole Chippendales thing. Because at this point,
if you really look at it for what it is, it's
just a bad idea that was poorly executed. It
was never that serious. No. It was never that
serious ever. If it was that serious, Zach could
have stood up and said, I'm not comfortable with
this. We need to leave. Jen could have said,
hey, I didn't know that this was the extent that
it was going to go to. No one did that in this
situation. And we have blown it so far out of
proportion. And I am so sick and tired of hearing
about it. I know. I know. It just needs to be
dropped. Like, it seriously just needs to be
dropped. The Ben Affleck thing comes up again.
And. I know, I know. I can't I can't handle it.
It's another thing that, again, it's just not
that serious. And you literally just never need
to talk about it again. If you just stop saying
it, it goes away. Seriously. But you were so
obsessed with it. Like you were so obsessed.
And then Jen. Jen planned this. Jen planned what
she says here, where she says she knows about
Jesse's past. And then she says, if you're looking
to swing with us, it's a no. And then she walks
out like she just dropped the biggest truth bomb.
Like the anger behind it, too. It was so misplaced.
Like Jesse invited you here to try to clear the
air. And now you're just throwing stones for
for no reason. All she wanted you to do is be
accountable. And you couldn't. And on top of
that, you're going to bring up her past in the
swinging. I don't I just can't follow. Let me
tell you something right now. If Jesse said,
hey, I want to swing with you, Travis. What an
honor and a privilege. Oh, my God. We don't even
need to invite Kenny Queen. I don't need to hear
anything else. I'm all in. Yeah. Take me away.
And I listen, I. You know, given my orientation,
I would hope that Jordan's there. That's that's
not a deal breaker for me if he's not, though.
If it's just me and Jesse, she's the most beautiful
woman on God's green earth. And if I just got
to sit there and brush her hair, how lucky would
I be? She and Macy both. Oh, my God. Wow. Wow.
Wow. Wow. Wow. So Michaela's in the car with
Macy and Macy decides that when they're five
minutes away from meeting up with Whitney, that
this is the time to say, hey. We're going to
meet up with Whitney. I feel like that was a
good way to do it. You kind of had to trap her
into it because she never would have said yes.
No, 100 percent. But like Michaela is a mean
girl about it. And it really does seem like Whitney
is trying to extend the olive branch. I wrote
down expand the olive branch, but we get it.
Michaela is completely closed off to it. But
to be fair. I do feel like this was really sprung
on Michaela and like I would be very pissed about
it, too. And also there's nothing wrong with
rejecting Whitney's olive branch. If you don't
want to be friends with Whitney, that's fine.
You don't have to be friends with everyone. That's
where the conversation should end then. Yeah,
that's the end of it. I agree. And what you don't
need to do is keep talking about Whitney. That's
what you don't need to do. You don't need to
make passive aggressive TikToks. You never need
to bring up her name ever again. Because you're
continuing to give it life at this point. You're
the problem. Yes. That's how I feel about it
at least. I just feel like she is being so not
chill about it. Like if you don't want to be
friends, don't be friends. But it doesn't have
to be this like constant swirl of drama. I agree.
Because I also feel like Whitney would drop it
and just never talk to Michaela if Michaela would
stop posting all these TikToks and saying mean
shit. Right. I agree. Decayla goes over to Taylor's
house and Taylor's made the decision that they
need a break. And I feel like she does a really,
really good job of being honest about this. And
I think she handles this very, very well. And
I think therapy is really working for her. I'm
very proud of Taylor in this moment. Yeah, she
was very mature in that whole thing. I think
as soon as she decided to take a break from Dakota,
she's she seems lighter. Yeah. And she seems
more like a grown up. Yes. She's acting more
like an adult. Yes. Dakota looks like he's going
to cry, and I'll buy that he was, like, actually...
He's a crier. Yes. Like, I'll buy that it was
real, because, like, I feel like some guys would
be like, oh, no, like, he's full of shit. No,
I think that was real. He cries all the time.
He does. Like, yeah, I believe. And he acknowledges
in his confessional that he's triggering for
Taylor and decides to... focus on being a good
dad forever. And I feel like if we can follow
through on this, what a day the Lord will have
made. That is so beautiful, right? Because I
think that's really their problem is they have
this love for each other and they're not willing
to admit that it can't be romantic. It's okay
to, I think it's honestly great if you're just
going to co -parent and that's your relationship
and you love each other. I think that's wonderful.
Pour that into your son. Yes. Yeah. But you don't
need to keep having sex and you don't need to
try and work out your relationship. I agree.
So we'll see how that shakes out. We get to Whitney's
baby shower. Miranda, Macy, Taylor and Jen show
up. And we find out that the bunnies are like
a replacement for people wanting to hold the
baby. And I, I feel like. If you don't want someone
to hold your fucking baby, they don't get to
hold your baby and you don't need to give them
shit like you do not owe them anything. And I
have a very hard time with people that like will
push this boundary. And I feel like Whitney said.
I have people in my life that aren't going to
be okay with this, so I'm going to make a joke
out of it and, like, do the bunny thing. But,
like, I feel very uncomfortable with people that
are not willing to accept when people don't want
them to hold their kids. I don't like that. I
didn't like that rationalization of the bunnies.
Like, I didn't like that being the reasoning.
Like, if you want to have bunnies at a baby shower,
like, whatever. Be cute. Be fun. But don't. You
shouldn't. It's weird. It shouldn't be a requirement,
though, so people don't, like, try to hold your
kid. Yeah. You know? And also, what is with people
even trying to hold fresh, brand new babies?
It's weird to me. I don't want to hold anyone's
baby. I'm sorry. When they're weeks old? When
they're any age, I don't want to hold a baby.
Period. Sorry. When I had Jack, a lot of people
came to the hospital. And, like, that was fine
because it was all. basically where I would have
drawn the line is if like every single person
I've ever met also showed up to the hospital
to try to hold a baby. I don't care who it is.
If it's family, if it's your sister, if it is,
if it's your parents, if you are not in a place
where you want your kid to be held for what,
I don't care what the reason is. If you are not
comfortable with that and that's the boundary
you're setting. That's enough. People have to
respect that. You can't just, like, claim a baby
that's not yours. It's so weird. They can respect
it or not. Fuck you. Period. Sorry. So, we find
out Connor got a vasectomy, so I guess this is
their last kid. Yeah. We also, what were you
going to say? Sorry. Nothing. Okay. We also find
out that Layla was the one who wrote the note
about Jen being fake. And Jen says that she feels
like it was Layla's attempt at fitting in because
Jesse and Demi are being mean to her. No. I'm
rolling my eyes. I'm rolling my eyes. Jen, when
are you going to admit that you are the problem?
Layla recognized that you were a liar and de
facto fake. Fake against the truth. I just don't
understand. Like, Jen really is one of those
people who, like, drama just surrounds me. Drama
follows me all around. Does it? And, like, she
never realizes that it's her. Does it follow
you around everywhere? Does it seem like you're
always in drama? Because you're a fucking liar,
Jen. You are the drama. Like, I don't know when
that starts clicking for people, but, like...
If you are a person that cannot escape drama,
if you feel like people are always turning against
you, you have to look within. That's the long
and short of it. So we cut to the hibachi dinner
at Jesse's house where Demi, Layla and Michaela
show up. Jessie talks about in her confessional
that she's done the swinging thing before. She
shared it with Jen and she feels hurt that now
Jen is weaponizing that against her. Saying it
on camera. Because she's an asshole. Yeah. Like,
and here's the God's honest truth. I don't care
if anyone's ever been a swinger or whatever,
but if it's something that you aren't comfortable
with the world knowing and you shared it in confidence,
like, Jen knew what the fuck she was doing there.
That was gross. To bring it up on camera. Yes.
And she knew it was, too. 100%. That was pure
venom from Jen. And then Taylor, back at Whitney's
baby shower, Taylor feels like Demi looks down
on the rest of the girls for being trash and
doesn't actually share anything about her real
life, which kind of comes back to the thing you
were saying about everything is scripted. It's
the image she wants to portray to the world.
It's the cease and desist of it all. I think
Taylor's 100 % right there. And that's tea. We
don't hear anything about what Demi's got going
on. No, because she doesn't have anything going
on because her entire storyline is hating Taylor.
Yeah. So that being said, Taylor decides it's
the perfect time to share the Center Sunday rumor
about Brett allegedly hooking up with someone
because Jen deserves to have a backbone and fight
for herself. And you know what I love about Taylor
at the end of the day is that she will be messy.
She will bring mess. And she, like us, loves
mess. And she knows what she's here to deliver.
And she's strategic about it. She's not like
out to just hurt anyone. She's like, oh, I know
how to get back at you. Yes. 100%. And that's
where the episode leaves off a little. A little
cliffhanger there. They love a cliffhanger on
that show. They really do. They love to keep
you coming back for more. Well, dear listener,
that brings us to the end of another episode
of Bestie Approved. This one was a weird one.
Like, I don't hate, like, the... Kind of all
over the map. Yeah, I don't hate the breadth
and width of what we covered, but it was a lot
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