WEBVTT 00:00:12.970 --> 00:00:16.789 I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is Bestie 00:00:16.789 --> 00:00:20.910 Approved. Yay. What's the last song you listened 00:00:20.910 --> 00:00:27.230 to? Smooth featuring Rob Thomas by Santana. Sure. 00:00:27.730 --> 00:00:31.390 Sure. Mine, you've never heard of, I can almost 00:00:31.390 --> 00:00:34.789 guarantee. It's the words best friend become 00:00:34.789 --> 00:00:38.609 redefined by Chiodos. Do you know what we should 00:00:38.609 --> 00:00:42.579 do? We should make an Apple Music playlist like 00:00:42.579 --> 00:00:46.539 public with all these songs. We should, except they're 00:00:46.539 --> 00:00:49.039 gonna judge me on some of them i guess i was 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:50.920 um baby if you think they're not gonna judge 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.920 the overloving fuck out of me listen to this 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:57.219 song it was so evil i was listening to it loud 00:00:57.219 --> 00:01:01.840 as hell in my car sometimes i just am angry that's 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:07.780 okay that is okay it's been a week guys it has 00:01:07.780 --> 00:01:10.439 been a week Where do you want to start? Do you 00:01:10.439 --> 00:01:11.920 want to start with your pregnancy update? Yeah. 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:16.579 Let's do it. I am 17 weeks today. We're recording 00:01:16.579 --> 00:01:20.680 on Wednesday this week. So my baby is the size 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:24.739 of an onion. I can't stop eating sugar, which 00:01:24.739 --> 00:01:28.140 is like really, really bad. So I'm just like 00:01:28.140 --> 00:01:30.620 having internal battles about that constantly. 00:01:32.939 --> 00:01:35.420 Like, is it bad for the baby or is it just like 00:01:35.420 --> 00:01:39.000 a you thing that it's bad? It's not necessarily 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.700 bad for the baby, but there's this thing that 00:01:41.700 --> 00:01:46.140 you can have gestational diabetes, which is basically 00:01:46.140 --> 00:01:49.920 like while you're pregnant, you're diabetic. 00:01:50.420 --> 00:01:53.379 And I really don't want to have that. I honestly 00:01:53.379 --> 00:01:58.219 don't know what the treatment of that even entails, 00:01:58.579 --> 00:02:04.140 but I don't want it. So it's a battle every day. 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:08.900 I have my one little sweet treat typically. And 00:02:08.900 --> 00:02:12.819 then I fight myself the rest of the day. But 00:02:12.819 --> 00:02:15.719 that's okay. Other than that, I'm fine. I'm still 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:17.939 so tired. And they told me that I wasn't going 00:02:17.939 --> 00:02:21.960 to be tired in the second trimester. Wait, I 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:23.419 want to go back to the diabetes thing for a second. 00:02:24.250 --> 00:02:26.129 You just have diabetes while you're pregnant? 00:02:26.250 --> 00:02:28.590 Like, it's not... Yeah. Oh. When I was pregnant 00:02:28.590 --> 00:02:31.650 with Jack, I had pregnancy -induced hypertension. 00:02:32.370 --> 00:02:35.389 So, like, my blood pressure was high only while 00:02:35.389 --> 00:02:44.449 I was pregnant. And now he doesn't. Does it just 00:02:44.449 --> 00:02:46.669 go away, like... Yeah. ...when you have the baby? 00:02:46.870 --> 00:02:49.870 Yeah. Oh. When I got... So, you go back to your 00:02:49.870 --> 00:02:52.830 OB, like, six weeks after you give birth, so 00:02:52.830 --> 00:02:55.439 you get cleared. to like exercise and stuff. 00:02:55.699 --> 00:02:58.520 And at that appointment, my blood pressure was 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:03.400 back to completely normal. Well, yeah, it's weird. 00:03:04.139 --> 00:03:06.259 Yeah. I mean, your body's going through tons 00:03:06.259 --> 00:03:09.539 of changes. You're trying to take care of a baby. 00:03:09.819 --> 00:03:14.159 It's all weird. You know, it is weird. I'm never 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:18.620 going to have a baby. Yeah. Ever. I mean, I'm 00:03:18.620 --> 00:03:21.060 not going to. have it though right i'm never 00:03:21.060 --> 00:03:23.120 gonna be pregnant i'm never gonna know what's 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:28.159 the size of an onion inside of me right no uh 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.919 but yeah it's crazy can you believe it's only 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:34.379 40 weeks and i'm 17 weeks in i cannot believe 00:03:34.379 --> 00:03:36.199 we're almost halfway through because it feels 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:38.479 like literally two weeks ago you told me like 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:42.099 that is wild to me right i feel like i'm gonna 00:03:42.099 --> 00:03:46.159 have a baby tomorrow i'm so unprepared Also, 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:51.379 they say this week he like starts hearing. He's 00:03:51.379 --> 00:03:56.000 developing. Oh, babies can hear you while they're 00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:00.240 in the belly. And that's why you'll see like 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.259 people talking to their babies. Do you want to 00:04:03.259 --> 00:04:06.259 know what's insane? Like the preview of this 00:04:06.259 --> 00:04:10.379 app literally says Emma this week. Also, you 00:04:10.379 --> 00:04:13.729 can like. Wait, so go back to it can hear. The 00:04:13.729 --> 00:04:17.009 baby can hear? How? Starting like this week -ish. 00:04:17.449 --> 00:04:21.990 So it starts off, they can only hear like my 00:04:21.990 --> 00:04:26.110 voice, basically. But when they are like bigger, 00:04:26.310 --> 00:04:29.569 like when it's closer to time, you're supposed 00:04:29.569 --> 00:04:32.290 to have the dad or whoever's going to be around 00:04:32.290 --> 00:04:34.610 the baby also talk to the baby. So it's like 00:04:34.610 --> 00:04:38.490 a comfortable voice when the baby's born. Isn't 00:04:38.490 --> 00:04:42.050 that crazy? That is. I don't know if it makes 00:04:42.050 --> 00:04:45.050 me uncomfortable or if it's like a marvel of 00:04:45.050 --> 00:04:48.970 like the human body, which is really cool. Yeah, 00:04:49.069 --> 00:04:54.089 it's cool. I mean, it freaks me out, but I'm 00:04:54.089 --> 00:04:58.149 like, I don't know. I don't know. We're going 00:04:58.149 --> 00:05:01.069 to figure it out. Jack, when he was in my belly, 00:05:01.250 --> 00:05:04.110 liked certain music. Like I could tell he would 00:05:04.110 --> 00:05:05.649 like start kicking and moving around a lot. What 00:05:05.649 --> 00:05:07.250 did he like? Like what was his favorite song? 00:05:07.269 --> 00:05:09.689 Frank Ocean. He loved Frank Ocean. Of course 00:05:09.689 --> 00:05:12.149 he did. Yeah. What do you think this baby's going 00:05:12.149 --> 00:05:13.629 to like? Because if it's not Kesha, I'm going 00:05:13.629 --> 00:05:16.250 to be really upset. I think he'll love Kesha. 00:05:16.410 --> 00:05:18.490 I would hope so. Do you think he's going to know 00:05:18.490 --> 00:05:23.259 the sound of my voice? Probably. Aww. I don't 00:05:23.259 --> 00:05:26.079 know. Yeah, I don't know. It's all crazy. I think 00:05:26.079 --> 00:05:29.279 a lot of pregnancy stuff is guesswork, too, because, 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:30.740 like, how can you actually know what's going 00:05:30.740 --> 00:05:34.819 on in a baby's brain while they're in their mom? 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:37.160 You know what I mean? I don't know. In my mind, 00:05:37.180 --> 00:05:38.600 I was like, oh, they're just guessing on most 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:41.060 of it. I don't know. That's what I thought, but 00:05:41.060 --> 00:05:44.300 then it's, like, very hyper -specific stuff, 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.279 too. Like, this week he also is, like, starting 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:51.259 to form fat. in his body it's like how do you 00:05:51.259 --> 00:05:54.000 know that like how how did we figure that out 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:56.379 I mean that probably comes from the ultrasound 00:05:56.379 --> 00:05:59.680 like I'm more interested in like how it like 00:05:59.680 --> 00:06:01.959 the cognitive functions like how they know that 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:05.399 because that well I bet I don't know I'm not 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:07.300 I'm not a scientist I'm sure there's some type 00:06:07.300 --> 00:06:12.220 of scan or something they can do to see um another 00:06:12.220 --> 00:06:16.339 one is I think it was last week he can swallow 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:19.959 Isn't that crazy? They practice for a long time, 00:06:19.980 --> 00:06:25.459 like in the belly, the act of like sucking like 00:06:25.459 --> 00:06:27.839 they would on a bottle. Oh, is that where the 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:30.600 instinct comes from? That's so interesting. They 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:34.500 practice it this early on in pregnancy. A little 00:06:34.500 --> 00:06:38.660 onion. That's me. I love that. Our little onion 00:06:38.660 --> 00:06:40.379 August. We're sharing the name. Are we telling 00:06:40.379 --> 00:06:41.759 the people the name? Do we need to cut that? 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.339 Okay. I'm not weird about the name. I know some 00:06:45.339 --> 00:06:48.740 people like to wait until it's like the baby's 00:06:48.740 --> 00:06:52.519 here to tell anyone the name. I'm not like that. 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:54.779 I'm so bad at keeping secrets like that. Oh, 00:06:54.779 --> 00:06:56.860 yeah. I'm really good at keeping secrets that 00:06:56.860 --> 00:07:01.519 are like bad stuff or hard stuff. but I'm horrible 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:03.540 at keeping secrets that are exciting things. 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:05.639 I've never wanted to keep a secret from you, 00:07:05.699 --> 00:07:09.839 but the way that my granny has called me and 00:07:09.839 --> 00:07:12.279 told me information and said, do not tell anyone 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.500 about this, and you were the first person that 00:07:14.500 --> 00:07:16.819 I pick up the phone and call. I do that too. 00:07:17.019 --> 00:07:21.459 If there's a really juicy secret, I'll just tell 00:07:21.459 --> 00:07:25.740 someone who's not involved instantaneously. Oh, 00:07:25.740 --> 00:07:28.800 yeah. I can't keep it to myself. I really can't. 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:30.839 How can you be expected to, honestly? I've been 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:32.959 this way my whole life. I remember as a kid, 00:07:33.180 --> 00:07:37.379 like, no one would tell me what anyone got anyone 00:07:37.379 --> 00:07:40.639 for Christmas because I would tell. I would get 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.120 so excited for them, and I would want to be like... 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.180 You know what you got? You had tea to spill. 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.540 Which is honestly probably kind of selfish of 00:07:48.540 --> 00:07:51.579 me because I wanted to see their reaction. No, 00:07:51.579 --> 00:07:54.439 you wanted to spread joy. We need to reframe 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:56.079 that a little bit because you wanted to spread 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:01.000 joy. Oh, Lord. Okay, we've got some stuff this 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.959 week. Where do you want to start? I guess Diddy. 00:08:04.540 --> 00:08:11.779 So on my way to Emma's house, I got a... notification 00:08:11.779 --> 00:08:15.120 from apple news that diddy was only found guilty 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:19.139 on the two lesser charges of um that he was on 00:08:19.139 --> 00:08:22.759 trial for so there were five charges one count 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:25.560 of racketeering conspiracy two counts of sex 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:28.540 trafficking by force fraud or coercion and two 00:08:28.540 --> 00:08:31.019 counts of transportation to engage in prostitution 00:08:31.019 --> 00:08:33.399 the two counts of transportation to engage in 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:34.980 prostitution are the ones he was found guilty 00:08:34.980 --> 00:08:37.700 of i just have to be really honest i'm not thrilled 00:08:37.700 --> 00:08:41.889 with the justice system right now given everything 00:08:41.889 --> 00:08:46.649 that we have learned from the trial and from 00:08:46.649 --> 00:08:50.389 the last seven weeks I'm just I I just feel like 00:08:50.389 --> 00:08:53.250 those were the easiest charges to prove sure 00:08:53.250 --> 00:08:55.110 you know what I mean because there are records 00:08:55.110 --> 00:09:01.809 of flights and you know license plates that are 00:09:01.809 --> 00:09:05.769 on camera and things like that I just I knew 00:09:05.769 --> 00:09:07.809 this was gonna happen I knew this was gonna happen 00:09:07.809 --> 00:09:11.200 because And there's no evidence. You would have 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:14.120 to get everyone to testify against him. And everyone's 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:17.220 so scared of him. Right. I will say if he's in 00:09:17.220 --> 00:09:19.200 prison for 20 years, when he gets out, he's going 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:22.220 to be 75. He can't survive a freak off. You know 00:09:22.220 --> 00:09:26.159 what I mean? So I think it's over for all of 00:09:26.159 --> 00:09:29.860 the victims and people involved. Thank God. But 00:09:29.860 --> 00:09:31.980 I don't like do you feel like they're getting 00:09:31.980 --> 00:09:35.830 justice like the victims? No, but I don't know 00:09:35.830 --> 00:09:37.730 that they ever could have. You're right. Cause 00:09:37.730 --> 00:09:39.490 there's so much trauma there. Like, how do you 00:09:39.490 --> 00:09:41.470 unpack that? And like, how do you heal from that? 00:09:41.509 --> 00:09:44.070 But like, unless they took him to civil court 00:09:44.070 --> 00:09:46.769 for pain and suffering, like they were never 00:09:46.769 --> 00:09:48.870 going to get a settlement or anything. I don't 00:09:48.870 --> 00:09:52.110 know. Yeah. It just sucks. Like, I'm just mad 00:09:52.110 --> 00:09:55.730 about it. And like, I was talking to my dad about 00:09:55.730 --> 00:10:00.809 this. We're like, how would you feel if either 00:10:00.809 --> 00:10:04.799 a, it was, me or Zachary that you had to like 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:08.860 go into that courtroom and like and be on our 00:10:08.860 --> 00:10:11.259 side and try and defend us like if we had done 00:10:11.259 --> 00:10:15.340 allegedly such horrific acts or B how would you 00:10:15.340 --> 00:10:17.759 feel if we were the victims and like there was 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:19.779 nothing you could do and I'm going to be really 00:10:19.779 --> 00:10:21.620 honest I don't care about the racketeering charges 00:10:21.620 --> 00:10:24.360 I don't care at all about that like I care about 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:28.799 like What you did to people, allegedly. I'm just, 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:31.159 I'm not, I'm just, ugh. It's a power dynamic 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:34.179 thing, obviously. And all I can think about is 00:10:34.179 --> 00:10:38.299 Cassie, the poor girl, like. Oh my God, I know. 00:10:38.460 --> 00:10:41.899 Thank God for her new husband, who's an absolute 00:10:41.899 --> 00:10:45.879 angel from God. You know, he did, he ran like 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:49.019 a full marathon or a 5K or something to support. 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:53.419 victims of sexual abuse and like stop to give 00:10:53.419 --> 00:10:56.820 cassie a hug on his run bless his heart he is 00:10:56.820 --> 00:11:00.519 a little angel and he is so sweet he's like done 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.539 nothing but support her he's never done anything 00:11:03.539 --> 00:11:07.179 to act like insecure about it or like he doesn't 00:11:07.179 --> 00:11:09.320 want to talk about it he's like always just shown 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.940 up in support of her and i think that's so hot 00:11:11.940 --> 00:11:16.269 and i'm happy that she's got someone who she 00:11:16.269 --> 00:11:18.029 can be more comfortable with. And that's all 00:11:18.029 --> 00:11:19.610 I'll say about Diddy. Diddy does not deserve 00:11:19.610 --> 00:11:25.309 any more of our time. 100%. Anna Wintour is stepping 00:11:25.309 --> 00:11:28.769 down as the editor -in -chief of Vogue. She had 00:11:28.769 --> 00:11:31.629 to. I'm going to be so honest. She's fallen off 00:11:31.629 --> 00:11:35.110 so hard in the last few years. The last Met Gala 00:11:35.110 --> 00:11:39.830 she went to, she had a stain on her dress. She's 00:11:39.830 --> 00:11:42.549 just started a fall from grace, and I'm glad 00:11:42.549 --> 00:11:45.639 that she was at least... aware enough to know 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:49.340 that it was her time well that and like i i think 00:11:49.340 --> 00:11:53.179 the entire print media industry is having a fall 00:11:53.179 --> 00:11:55.679 from grace too i mean like you're you took over 00:11:55.679 --> 00:12:00.419 vogue in what 1988 so like she's been around 00:12:00.419 --> 00:12:03.159 for 36 years and like your entire year was planned 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.139 around basically the the september issue and 00:12:06.139 --> 00:12:09.710 it's like that print media that that fanfare 00:12:09.710 --> 00:12:12.250 for that one time of year doesn't really exist 00:12:12.250 --> 00:12:14.470 anymore in like this world of fast fashion and 00:12:14.470 --> 00:12:16.669 it's part of it's kind of sad because it's like 00:12:16.669 --> 00:12:19.889 you're seeing an entire industry that's worth 00:12:19.889 --> 00:12:24.389 like 3 .6 trillion dollars die yeah and like 00:12:24.389 --> 00:12:26.669 and she was kind of the face of that because 00:12:26.669 --> 00:12:29.509 I mean she called the shots and she decided like 00:12:29.509 --> 00:12:31.529 what fashion was and like I mean I know there 00:12:31.529 --> 00:12:33.669 was like a team but like she was that was like 00:12:33.669 --> 00:12:35.789 her thing and it's like what does she do now 00:12:35.789 --> 00:12:40.049 I guess Yeah, I mean, hopefully just retire. 00:12:40.370 --> 00:12:43.269 Vogue's been paying her well for 36 years. I 00:12:43.269 --> 00:12:51.049 think she'll probably retire. I will say, with 00:12:51.049 --> 00:12:55.549 the fall of print media, I do respect Vogue for 00:12:55.549 --> 00:13:00.429 trying to enter the space of fashion via social 00:13:00.429 --> 00:13:03.269 media. They've gotten the girls to do their, 00:13:03.269 --> 00:13:08.080 like... getting ready videos and the you know 00:13:08.080 --> 00:13:10.360 whatever and all of those and i think that's 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:15.879 cute um i like the what is it like 90 questions 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:17.559 oh yeah the thing where they like follow you 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:19.399 around the house yeah that is vogue yeah yeah 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:23.120 i think those are cute i i do like that they've 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:26.360 tried to like enter a space where it's more accessible 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:30.440 to the age that is supposed to be accessible 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:32.580 to, you know, I started reading Vogue when I 00:13:32.580 --> 00:13:35.840 was like 13. Do you think that when they presented 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.980 that idea to Anna Wintour, it was just like a 00:13:38.980 --> 00:13:41.000 knockdown drag out fight saying, I'm not doing 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.720 this like TikTok trash and like, look what it's 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:46.340 turned into. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it took some 00:13:46.340 --> 00:13:49.799 convincing. I think that's part of like why she 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:55.440 had to go is because. She's so old fashioned 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:58.360 and so used to the old way of doing things that 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:00.500 it would be really hard, I think, for anyone 00:14:00.500 --> 00:14:03.899 to adjust to this sort of hate me for saying 00:14:03.899 --> 00:14:07.000 it, but cheaper version of things where it's 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:10.179 like you're trying to appeal to the masses by 00:14:10.179 --> 00:14:13.059 saying you're just like them instead of trying 00:14:13.059 --> 00:14:16.179 to appeal to the masses by being as fabulous 00:14:16.179 --> 00:14:18.759 as possible. Right. Like it's a very different. 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:22.899 mindset no for sure it's like I that's the thing 00:14:22.899 --> 00:14:28.120 is like I don't I think back to like you know 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.679 like what the 80s the 90s represented and even 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.700 like the mid -2000s where like fashion was aspirational 00:14:33.700 --> 00:14:35.840 and it was like Vogue and Harper's Bazaar and 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:37.720 it was like the models and like the whole thing 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.259 and like right now I couldn't name a model besides 00:14:41.259 --> 00:14:44.600 Naomi Campbell like and I don't I think of her 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:46.399 as like a model right now. Do you know what I 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:49.500 mean? Yeah. I mean, my mind automatically goes 00:14:49.500 --> 00:14:54.539 Bella Hadid, Alex Kansani, all of those, that 00:14:54.539 --> 00:14:58.039 group. Okay. Yeah, that's fair. But even with 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:02.220 them, social media has gotten us to a point of 00:15:02.220 --> 00:15:06.059 believing that everything is attainable for ourselves. 00:15:06.259 --> 00:15:09.080 Like people really aren't interested in anything 00:15:09.080 --> 00:15:13.919 that they can't. Or their daddy can't buy for 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:19.419 them. You know, like Bella Hadid is like one 00:15:19.419 --> 00:15:22.080 of the most famous models in the world. And she's 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:25.299 like tagging where she gets her outfits from 00:15:25.299 --> 00:15:27.340 and stuff like that, because that's what people 00:15:27.340 --> 00:15:30.960 want. People want to see someone. And it's always 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:34.379 been you see someone and I want to be just like 00:15:34.379 --> 00:15:37.960 her. But we've lost the formula of like trying 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:41.779 to figure that out on your own. And now are like, 00:15:41.899 --> 00:15:44.360 well, she got that from here and I can get it 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.500 from here. And she got that bag from here and 00:15:46.500 --> 00:15:48.840 I can find that bag and I can. Oh, like it's 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.259 just an influencer's world. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone 00:15:52.259 --> 00:15:54.940 wants to be an influencer. And like, I get it. 00:15:55.019 --> 00:15:57.659 I thought we're trying to do it. Yeah. Yeah. 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:01.940 I mean, yeah. Like, I'm not judging anyone. I'm 00:16:01.940 --> 00:16:04.299 just saying, like, the mindset has completely 00:16:04.299 --> 00:16:09.279 shifted. there's like little to no individuality 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:12.779 now outside of like, who do you idolize? I don't 00:16:12.779 --> 00:16:14.019 know. I think it's funny. Like when you say, 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:16.039 who do you idolize? And like, I feel like I'm 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:19.220 not like a normal person when it comes to this. 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:21.299 Cause like you say, who do you idolize? And I'm 00:16:21.299 --> 00:16:24.440 like, Bethany Frankel. Like she's my hero. But 00:16:24.440 --> 00:16:30.480 no, I hear what you're saying. Like 15 to 22 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:34.490 year olds. Sure. Like, the impressionable crowd 00:16:34.490 --> 00:16:36.330 who's, like, still trying to figure themselves 00:16:36.330 --> 00:16:41.289 out. I think that's who, like, they have no, 00:16:41.470 --> 00:16:45.809 they're like, I like Bella Hadid and I like whatever 00:16:45.809 --> 00:16:48.750 big influencers. I like Alex Earl and I like. 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.320 whoever else and I'm gonna dress exactly like 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:55.039 them to the point where I'm going to buy my outfits 00:16:55.039 --> 00:16:57.860 from the same stores where they bought theirs 00:16:57.860 --> 00:17:01.639 I'm it's like much more copy and paste than it 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:05.660 used to be at least in my opinion no that's fair 00:17:05.660 --> 00:17:07.980 it's and it's funny that you brought up Bella 00:17:07.980 --> 00:17:11.019 Hadid and her sister Gigi because like I literally 00:17:11.019 --> 00:17:12.839 only know them from the Real Housewives of Beverly 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:16.720 Hills because of Yolanda Foster yeah I didn't 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:21.450 even Like clock them being in Real Housewives 00:17:21.450 --> 00:17:24.710 until recently. I don't know. Like Bella Hadid 00:17:24.710 --> 00:17:27.849 specifically. She's like so cool girl. She's 00:17:27.849 --> 00:17:31.289 very cool. Riding her horses and smoking a cigarette 00:17:31.289 --> 00:17:34.609 with a glass of red wine. Like she's so hot. 00:17:34.869 --> 00:17:37.309 She is. I think everyone wants to be like her. 00:17:37.569 --> 00:17:40.670 And it's like, why wouldn't you? She's like the 00:17:40.670 --> 00:17:43.309 coolest bitch in the world. No, totally. It's 00:17:43.309 --> 00:17:45.170 so funny, though. I remember walking by the Burberry 00:17:45.170 --> 00:17:47.950 store when there was still one in Indy and I 00:17:47.950 --> 00:17:49.890 walked by it and I was like, oh, my God, that's 00:17:49.890 --> 00:17:52.210 Yolanda Foster's daughter. And the person that 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:54.509 was with me was like, are you being fucking serious 00:17:54.509 --> 00:17:58.450 right now? She's very much her own girl now. 00:17:58.509 --> 00:18:01.049 But that that is funny because it all comes from 00:18:01.049 --> 00:18:04.220 Yolanda. It does. I mean, Bella Hadid started 00:18:04.220 --> 00:18:06.559 getting work done when she was very young. Well, 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.980 if you look a little bit under the surface there, 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:15.380 it is not ideal. Oh. Go ahead. You know about 00:18:15.380 --> 00:18:18.900 the almond mom thing? If you're about to say 00:18:18.900 --> 00:18:20.859 what I think, because I was literally about to 00:18:20.859 --> 00:18:23.019 say exactly what you think, or I think you're 00:18:23.019 --> 00:18:25.839 going to say, but go ahead. So like. Yolanda 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:29.079 Hadid is the OG almond mom. Almond moms are the 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:31.440 ones who are like, wait till you're hungry and 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:36.000 then eat one almond. Oh, I've got one better 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:40.599 for you. It was Bella or Gigi's. I think it was 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:46.200 Gigi's birthday. And they were showing her party 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:48.880 on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:50.599 said, oh, I'm going to have a piece of cake for 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:53.920 my birthday. And the way that I watched Yolanda 00:18:53.920 --> 00:18:56.660 Foster's or what appeared to be an eating disorder 00:18:56.660 --> 00:18:59.720 live on television. And I have never been so 00:18:59.720 --> 00:19:01.720 triggered in my entire life because she let her 00:19:01.720 --> 00:19:03.559 daughter take one bite of it and said, that's 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:07.460 it. That's enough. Yeah. I mean, that was really 00:19:07.460 --> 00:19:10.859 sad because it is obvious that she kind of put 00:19:10.859 --> 00:19:13.799 it on her daughters that they need to be model 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:15.940 sized and they need to do this and they need 00:19:15.940 --> 00:19:19.869 to do that. to be skinny, like for no other goal, 00:19:20.009 --> 00:19:23.730 not health, not wealth to be skinny period. Cause 00:19:23.730 --> 00:19:27.150 that's your paycheck. Yeah. It's sad. It's sad. 00:19:27.289 --> 00:19:30.069 And it is kind of sad to see like how well it 00:19:30.069 --> 00:19:33.309 works, but to be fair, they're both by themselves. 00:19:33.329 --> 00:19:35.829 Very successful. Oh, absolutely. But to be fair 00:19:35.829 --> 00:19:39.710 to Yolanda, that was the world she grew up in. 00:19:39.730 --> 00:19:41.809 Like she was a model in the late eighties, early 00:19:41.809 --> 00:19:43.910 nineties. Like, and that was like, I mean, you 00:19:43.910 --> 00:19:47.319 had the model houses where like they, had a cigarette 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:50.140 and, like, a grape, and that was their meal. 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:54.279 Yeah, 100%. And it's hard to judge that group 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:56.839 of women. I mean, we're talking about Naomi Campbell 00:19:56.839 --> 00:19:59.700 in the 90s. We're talking about all of them who 00:19:59.700 --> 00:20:03.140 had all of these very unhealthy habits. They 00:20:03.140 --> 00:20:06.779 were getting drunk via their buttholes and stuff 00:20:06.779 --> 00:20:10.880 like that. Oh, yeah. Models are where butt chugging 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:12.900 came from. They put it up their butt. That's 00:20:12.900 --> 00:20:16.470 a real thing. Uh -huh. Oh my Christ. I always 00:20:16.470 --> 00:20:18.430 thought that was just a joke. No, and I read 00:20:18.430 --> 00:20:22.490 about models eating cotton balls because you 00:20:22.490 --> 00:20:24.930 can't really digest it, but it'll fill you up. 00:20:26.049 --> 00:20:29.490 Oh Jesus Christ. Let me just put this disclaimer 00:20:29.490 --> 00:20:31.390 out there for anyone listening to this. Please 00:20:31.390 --> 00:20:33.650 don't do that. Do not do any of that. It is so 00:20:33.650 --> 00:20:35.950 harmful to your health, and it's not worth it 00:20:35.950 --> 00:20:40.089 to be skinny. Or just be comfortable in your 00:20:40.089 --> 00:20:43.170 body, and you're okay. You are perfect just the 00:20:43.170 --> 00:20:45.859 way you are. Yeah, you are perfect the way you 00:20:45.859 --> 00:20:48.160 are. There's no reason to want to change yourself, 00:20:48.299 --> 00:20:50.140 especially to the point of harming yourself. 00:20:50.420 --> 00:20:53.980 That's so counterintuitive. But the point I'm 00:20:53.980 --> 00:20:56.779 trying to make is that when you grow up around 00:20:56.779 --> 00:21:01.359 that and you want to be in that industry, it's 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.920 hard to judge. Oh, totally. Because that was 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:09.490 so normalized 20 years ago. Oh, 100%. And that's 00:21:09.490 --> 00:21:12.049 I think that ended with the whole like heroin 00:21:12.049 --> 00:21:15.150 chic going out of style. I think that's when 00:21:15.150 --> 00:21:20.349 that lifestyle also went out of style. I'm thrilled 00:21:20.349 --> 00:21:23.109 about that because I didn't believe that was 00:21:23.109 --> 00:21:25.869 I had no idea that was a thing. So that's terrifying. 00:21:25.910 --> 00:21:29.250 One day we need to get into my granny and Sue 00:21:29.250 --> 00:21:32.690 and like the relationship with food there because. 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:36.200 We should have a relationship with food segment 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:38.859 in an episode. Oh, yeah. That might be a whole 00:21:38.859 --> 00:21:41.660 episode one day, actually. There's a lot to unpack. 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:45.200 I mean, because even parents who think they're 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.220 doing the right thing can give you a bad relationship 00:21:48.220 --> 00:21:51.720 with food. Oh, yeah. And it's hard. That's a 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.299 hard thing to navigate, even as an adult, your 00:21:54.299 --> 00:22:00.140 relationship with food for a lot of people. Yeah. 00:22:01.049 --> 00:22:03.289 Yeah, I don't know. I'm very happy for Bella 00:22:03.289 --> 00:22:05.309 and Gigi, and I'm glad it worked out for them, 00:22:05.430 --> 00:22:09.269 but it is hard to see a mom act like that. Oh, 00:22:09.269 --> 00:22:12.210 yeah. Do you want to be mad, or do you want to 00:22:12.210 --> 00:22:14.950 laugh at the universe conspiring against me? 00:22:16.269 --> 00:22:19.670 Either one. Let's start with the fun one first, 00:22:19.710 --> 00:22:24.769 and then we'll roll into the disaster. So I wholeheartedly 00:22:24.769 --> 00:22:27.220 believe that the universe is conspiring. against 00:22:27.220 --> 00:22:29.440 me to aggravate the living fuck out of me so 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:31.079 you know i'm trying to teach myself how to swim 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:36.400 um i was at lifetime two days ago at this point 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:41.880 and the lap pool at lifetime was closed i guess 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.819 for like maintenance or i don't know i don't 00:22:44.819 --> 00:22:48.559 care why it was closed and there was a class 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:51.619 going on in the other pool where I had the option 00:22:51.619 --> 00:22:53.160 to swim. So I said, I'm just going to hang out 00:22:53.160 --> 00:22:54.660 here. I'm going to sit down and I'm going to 00:22:54.660 --> 00:22:56.920 disassociate on TikTok until this little class 00:22:56.920 --> 00:22:59.700 is over. And then I'm going to hop right in that 00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:03.839 pool. This man comes out of the locker rooms 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.539 that like lead directly into the lap pool. And 00:23:07.539 --> 00:23:12.539 he looks at the sign that says lap pool closed. 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:18.079 And I'm sitting. facing the lap pool like on 00:23:18.079 --> 00:23:21.259 the bench thing and this man turns around and 00:23:21.259 --> 00:23:24.180 he looks at me and he goes is the pool closed 00:23:24.180 --> 00:23:28.579 I said um yeah it looks like it and then I went 00:23:28.579 --> 00:23:32.819 right back to my phone I had my beats in I was 00:23:32.819 --> 00:23:36.119 not giving the signal that I was in the mood 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:39.559 to have a conversation so then he goes well is 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:43.359 it going to be closed all day and I said I don't 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:46.769 know I'm not sure sir um And then I looked back 00:23:46.769 --> 00:23:51.829 at my phone and he goes, well, what are people 00:23:51.829 --> 00:23:53.829 doing if they want to swim? And I was like, well, 00:23:53.990 --> 00:23:56.670 I'm waiting for this class to be over and then 00:23:56.670 --> 00:24:00.250 I'm going to hop in that pool. And he goes, well, 00:24:00.349 --> 00:24:02.329 is it going to be closed all day? And he just 00:24:02.329 --> 00:24:04.150 kept saying, is it going to be closed all day? 00:24:04.269 --> 00:24:09.029 I do wonder if being seated by a pool while a 00:24:09.029 --> 00:24:12.670 class was going on, if you were giving lifeguard. 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:16.980 I was wearing chubby swim trunks with palm trees 00:24:16.980 --> 00:24:20.559 on them and they were pink. I don't know that 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:26.160 a man would care. Got it. OK, I don't know. But 00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:28.059 you're also on your phone and that's not giving 00:24:28.059 --> 00:24:31.079 lifeguard. I don't know. But also imagine being 00:24:31.079 --> 00:24:33.440 so fit and hot that they assume you work there. 00:24:34.380 --> 00:24:42.200 Love that for me. But he just kept saying. Is 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:43.859 it going to be closed all day? And I got to the 00:24:43.859 --> 00:24:46.599 point where I just stopped acknowledging him. 00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:48.960 And then he looks me dead in the face and he 00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.119 goes, I don't even know why I try anymore. And 00:24:51.119 --> 00:24:52.740 then he throws his hands up in the air and like 00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:55.720 storms off. And I don't know why you try either, 00:24:55.900 --> 00:24:59.640 sir. Right. And I was just like, and I never 00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:02.019 once considered that maybe he thought I worked 00:25:02.019 --> 00:25:05.240 there. So like, I will give you that. But the 00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:10.220 sense of entitlement to be like. I'm just going 00:25:10.220 --> 00:25:12.960 to keep asking a question that this guy has like 00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:15.920 already let me know that he does not know the 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.359 answer to. And like, I still am looking for an 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:21.079 answer. Like go talk to the front desk, go like 00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:23.539 literally go anywhere else, but like stop bothering 00:25:23.539 --> 00:25:26.599 me. And like, I don't understand people who act 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:28.680 like that. Like you think you're going to magically 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:32.339 get what you want the 65th time. Right. And also 00:25:32.339 --> 00:25:34.960 the pool says it's fucking closed on the sign. 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:39.569 Like. Hello? You're an unstoppable force meeting 00:25:39.569 --> 00:25:41.869 an immovable object. What do you want, sir? I 00:25:41.869 --> 00:25:45.650 don't know what he wanted you to say. Because 00:25:45.650 --> 00:25:50.349 also, if you did work there, if he found someone 00:25:50.349 --> 00:25:52.390 who worked there and he asked them and the pool 00:25:52.390 --> 00:25:55.650 was going to be open four hours later, are you 00:25:55.650 --> 00:25:57.269 going to sit around and wait for four hours? 00:25:57.329 --> 00:25:59.170 Why do you want to know if it's going to be closed 00:25:59.170 --> 00:26:04.420 all day? Right. Or conceptually. Take the advice 00:26:04.420 --> 00:26:07.099 of the guy you've been harassing and wait the 00:26:07.099 --> 00:26:09.880 four minutes for that class to be over and just 00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:12.299 hop in the other pool. It's just not that deep. 00:26:12.460 --> 00:26:16.960 Yeah, literally. Oh, it isn't. Actually, it's 00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:21.630 four feet versus six feet. But goddamn. It's 00:26:21.630 --> 00:26:23.789 going to be okay. You can still swim in it. Guess 00:26:23.789 --> 00:26:25.750 what, buddy? Everything's going to be okay. Do 00:26:25.750 --> 00:26:28.029 you want to complain? Yeah, I do want to complain. 00:26:28.349 --> 00:26:30.650 I want you to go first. Today I'm complaining 00:26:30.650 --> 00:26:33.809 about Love Island, which maybe could have saved 00:26:33.809 --> 00:26:37.529 itself for our reality roundup if I didn't just 00:26:37.529 --> 00:26:41.910 want to bitch about it. No one knows how to communicate 00:26:41.910 --> 00:26:45.809 with each other anymore. No one understands how 00:26:45.809 --> 00:26:49.750 to date or what they owe people. I'm so tired 00:26:49.750 --> 00:26:53.710 of the phrase, I don't owe anything to anybody. 00:26:53.970 --> 00:26:58.349 Yes, you do. You owe everyone you run into basic 00:26:58.349 --> 00:27:02.369 human decency. Okay, okay. You owe everyone you 00:27:02.369 --> 00:27:08.130 run into grace. and the same type of treatment 00:27:08.130 --> 00:27:11.269 you would like to enjoy from them. That is what 00:27:11.269 --> 00:27:18.910 you owe people. I also am so tired of this narrative 00:27:18.910 --> 00:27:24.609 of needing to be a girl's girl on Love Island. 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.779 You're on Love Island. You guys are all dating 00:27:27.779 --> 00:27:32.740 the same guys. I understand that you should always 00:27:32.740 --> 00:27:36.519 want to stand up for your girls. Yes, I get it. 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.500 I think it would be beautiful for you all to 00:27:39.500 --> 00:27:43.700 be friends, but it is so obvious that this season 00:27:43.700 --> 00:27:47.559 they're trying to rip off last season with this 00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:55.109 group that was Leah, Serena, and Janae. They 00:27:55.109 --> 00:28:00.910 were all, all three of those girls are massively 00:28:00.910 --> 00:28:04.210 famous now. And it is so very clear that three 00:28:04.210 --> 00:28:06.910 of the girls on this season are trying to become 00:28:06.910 --> 00:28:10.609 that. But they're bullies. They are bullying 00:28:10.609 --> 00:28:15.210 this girl. Okay, so to summarize what happened. 00:28:15.970 --> 00:28:19.990 This girl, Huda. They're like split off at Castle 00:28:19.990 --> 00:28:22.529 Amour. I'm not even going to explain that to 00:28:22.529 --> 00:28:28.410 you. But they're at Castle Amour. Shelly is connecting 00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:31.789 with this guy, but she knows deep down she likes 00:28:31.789 --> 00:28:33.970 the guy she has back at the main villa better. 00:28:34.670 --> 00:28:38.650 So then Huda confronts her as she should and 00:28:38.650 --> 00:28:41.430 says, hey, I'm interested in this guy that you're 00:28:41.430 --> 00:28:44.490 seeing, Chris. I want to bring him back to the 00:28:44.490 --> 00:28:47.680 villa. Huda tells Shelly to her face, I'm interested 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.359 in the guy you're talking to. Shelly is like, 00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:52.859 okay, cool, because I'm more interested in the 00:28:52.859 --> 00:28:56.240 other guy back at the villa anyway. Bring him 00:28:56.240 --> 00:28:59.559 on home with you, girl. And everyone's very honest 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.759 with each other, which I really respect. Chris 00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:03.900 is like, I'm going to pursue both of you. I want 00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:07.000 to get to know both of you. Whatever. And then 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:11.460 he decides one day Shelly isn't giving like reciprocating 00:29:11.460 --> 00:29:13.259 the energy that he's giving her. So he's going 00:29:13.259 --> 00:29:15.880 to stop trying to pursue her. He likes Huda. 00:29:16.019 --> 00:29:19.539 Huda likes him. They make out. Beautiful. Love 00:29:19.539 --> 00:29:23.900 that for them. Then we get to last night's episode, 00:29:23.980 --> 00:29:28.579 which is basically everyone wrote these postcards 00:29:28.579 --> 00:29:32.180 to other people in the villa to air shit out. 00:29:33.119 --> 00:29:36.559 And Shelly has the nerve to go up on a podium 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.240 and say they had a conversation where Huda said 00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:44.180 she was just bringing Chris back for her. For 00:29:44.180 --> 00:29:47.640 Shelly. Like she was only bringing this man back 00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:54.160 so that Shelly could pursue him still. Baby, 00:29:54.259 --> 00:29:56.319 it's love fucking island. I know. That's not 00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.279 even how the conversation went, first of all. 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:04.220 That's not how it went. And I don't know, there's 00:30:04.220 --> 00:30:06.980 been other drama to kind of add color to this. 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:12.480 But it's like, I just feel like there are some 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.920 girls on Love Island right now who are not used 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.880 to being jealous. And they don't know how to 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:24.240 handle that emotion. Like, Shelly is so beautiful. 00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:29.140 In real life. That it seems to me. Let me show 00:30:29.140 --> 00:30:31.740 you a picture of her. But it seems to me. Shelly 00:30:31.740 --> 00:30:37.240 said. Mm -hmm. C -H -E -L -L -E -Y. Oh, my God. 00:30:37.259 --> 00:30:40.119 She is so beautiful. She's stunning. Like, absolutely 00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.880 drop dead gorgeous. Wait, and she's the girl 00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.900 that. She's the girl who's like, you told me 00:30:45.900 --> 00:30:48.019 you were going to bring Chris back just so I 00:30:48.019 --> 00:30:50.160 could still talk to him. Oh, she's never been 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:52.200 insecure a day in her life. That's what I'm saying. 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:55.160 She's never been jealous before. And she doesn't 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:58.279 know how to like confront those emotions. Yes. 00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:01.940 And it's become very obvious on this season, 00:31:01.980 --> 00:31:06.839 and it's making me sad. You are not there for 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.740 every girl to kiss your feet and every man to 00:31:09.740 --> 00:31:12.799 kiss your ass. Like, that's not how it works. 00:31:12.900 --> 00:31:16.900 You're on Love Island. Everyone is dating everyone. 00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:21.140 She's simply not familiar, though. I just can't. 00:31:21.180 --> 00:31:23.359 And I can't believe I'm defending Huda because 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.779 she's the one who's a mom and was crashing out 00:31:25.779 --> 00:31:30.359 and all of this. Oh, okay. See. But she has owned 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.559 up to that. She's been like, I've made mistakes. 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.200 I'm sorry for acting like that. I'm trying to 00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.200 grow and improve myself. Okay. On Love Island. 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:46.609 Yes. I. Like, it's all kind of silly because 00:31:46.609 --> 00:31:49.670 it's on Love Island at all. But I'm like, how 00:31:49.670 --> 00:31:52.769 are you not understanding that you are bullying 00:31:52.769 --> 00:31:55.950 this girl? Because they were coming at her talking 00:31:55.950 --> 00:31:59.849 about they're not giving her this. She's not 00:31:59.849 --> 00:32:02.329 giving them the same treatments she expects from 00:32:02.329 --> 00:32:04.250 them and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 00:32:04.430 --> 00:32:06.589 I don't know what anyone expects going on to 00:32:06.589 --> 00:32:08.789 Love Island. I think that's a big conversation 00:32:08.789 --> 00:32:11.769 we need to have is we need to align our expectations 00:32:11.769 --> 00:32:16.650 with reality. 100%. And I think it would be beautiful 00:32:16.650 --> 00:32:19.690 if you all could be friends and get along. I 00:32:19.690 --> 00:32:21.890 think it would even make the whole thing better 00:32:21.890 --> 00:32:24.910 for everyone to kind of get along and be honest 00:32:24.910 --> 00:32:27.250 about what they're feeling and how they're feeling. 00:32:27.309 --> 00:32:29.819 But there's been so much catty. and pettiness 00:32:29.819 --> 00:32:33.599 and weirdness this season and also there's this 00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:35.700 girl who's just like sitting back and laughing 00:32:35.700 --> 00:32:38.519 ha ha he he every time this girl is bullied and 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.940 I'm like you don't want anyone to start pointing 00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:47.329 the finger at you no Anyway, that is my complaint. 00:32:47.670 --> 00:32:50.509 Love Island this season in general is pissing 00:32:50.509 --> 00:32:53.390 me off. There's too much drama. No one understands 00:32:53.390 --> 00:32:55.869 how to communicate with each other. No one understands. 00:32:56.009 --> 00:33:00.190 And I blame dating apps. I 100 % blame dating 00:33:00.190 --> 00:33:03.829 apps. Okay. Because I think it has twisted our 00:33:03.829 --> 00:33:08.390 brains into thinking that all you have to do 00:33:08.390 --> 00:33:12.140 is be the hottest person there. And and that's 00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:14.500 it. All of the men will fall for you. You'll 00:33:14.500 --> 00:33:17.200 have your pick of the bunch and you don't need 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:20.519 to do anything. I think it also has added this 00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:25.339 like weird. You can tell everyone there is concerned 00:33:25.339 --> 00:33:31.000 about how America is viewing them. And so they're 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.559 all playing it like too cool for school. Trying 00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.599 to show off almost. No one's being like as vulnerable 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.900 as they should be, except for my queen, Amaya. 00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:44.460 Anyway, that's it. I just need to get that off 00:33:44.460 --> 00:33:47.079 my chest. It's driving me crazy. Anyone who watches 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:48.539 Love Island will know what I'm talking about. 00:33:51.500 --> 00:33:55.900 If you like it, I love it. I'm going to complain 00:33:55.900 --> 00:34:01.380 about the. Monthly song and dance. I have to 00:34:01.380 --> 00:34:04.859 go through to get my Adderall refilled. Dear 00:34:04.859 --> 00:34:06.559 listener, you've probably picked up on the fact 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:14.159 that I have unhinged ADHD and I need a pill or 00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.840 two, depending on the day to get through the 00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:23.909 day. So what the and anyone who. Takes Adderall 00:34:23.909 --> 00:34:26.429 or any controlled substance, controlled substance 00:34:26.429 --> 00:34:29.530 gets this. And I'm going to start by saying I 00:34:29.530 --> 00:34:31.489 understand that there's a high potential for 00:34:31.489 --> 00:34:33.190 abuse of these drugs. And that's why some of 00:34:33.190 --> 00:34:36.710 these situations and systems are in place. I 00:34:36.710 --> 00:34:39.670 get that. It does not change how frustrating 00:34:39.670 --> 00:34:43.909 it is. So not at all. Not at all. I would argue 00:34:43.909 --> 00:34:46.469 they're controlled substances because they work. 00:34:46.590 --> 00:34:49.750 And so the people who need them need them. Sure. 00:34:49.989 --> 00:34:54.159 Anyway, maybe. But you have when we shared an 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.820 office, you have sat there and listened to what 00:34:56.820 --> 00:34:59.619 it takes to get a prescription refilled. So the 00:34:59.619 --> 00:35:01.699 initial prescription goes from your doctor to 00:35:01.699 --> 00:35:03.460 the pharmacy. Everyone knows how that works, 00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:07.980 right? 30 days goes by. A person with ADHD has 00:35:07.980 --> 00:35:11.159 to run out of his ADHD medication and then remember, 00:35:11.380 --> 00:35:13.840 oh, I have to call the pharmacy on the day that 00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:17.460 I run out because they will not schedule it for 00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:21.239 later. They will not do it. Then you have to 00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:23.199 go through the whole song and dance of do you 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:25.000 have it in stock because there's an Adderall 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.039 shortage still and that's been going on for two 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:29.219 years and I don't know why that's a thing. And 00:35:29.219 --> 00:35:31.840 then you have to go through the whole song and 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:34.500 dance of, oh, well, we don't have it in stock. 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:36.280 Oh, well, you have to call your doctor and have 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.019 it sent to another pharmacy. We can't send it 00:35:38.019 --> 00:35:39.840 for you and we won't tell you what other pharmacies 00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.199 have it in stock. And then three months goes 00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.519 by and you've. you've used your three refills 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:48.519 at the pharmacy so then you have to call your 00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:51.380 doctor and then you have to talk to a nurse named 00:35:51.380 --> 00:35:55.059 brenda who does not like you and has never liked 00:35:55.059 --> 00:35:58.920 you and she is so mean to you every time she 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:01.440 picks up the phone and talks to you and you just 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.460 have to deal with it because she is the gatekeeper 00:36:05.460 --> 00:36:08.139 between you and getting the medicine that helps 00:36:08.139 --> 00:36:10.260 you function and that's what i'm complaining 00:36:10.260 --> 00:36:15.300 about today I just really don't understand. I 00:36:15.300 --> 00:36:17.280 don't understand why they won't do automatic 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.019 refills. I understand that it's a controlled 00:36:20.019 --> 00:36:22.739 substance, but if you wait 30 days to refill 00:36:22.739 --> 00:36:26.199 it, that's still, you're regulating the use, 00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:30.599 right? Like, I don't understand that at all. 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.320 I don't either. In the least. And what really, 00:36:33.340 --> 00:36:36.960 like, gets to me is, like, ADHD, so many people 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.500 cannot function without Adderall. Like, they 00:36:39.500 --> 00:36:43.610 cannot do it. But also other controlled substances 00:36:43.610 --> 00:36:47.369 like pain medication and things like that. Like 00:36:47.369 --> 00:36:51.550 you are just letting people suffer. For what? 00:36:51.690 --> 00:36:55.150 For what, diva? For what? For what? Because you 00:36:55.150 --> 00:36:56.889 think people are going to take some extra pills? 00:36:57.389 --> 00:36:59.949 The people who are really concerned about this 00:36:59.949 --> 00:37:03.650 are the people who really need them. You know, 00:37:03.650 --> 00:37:05.570 well, and that's I don't know if they're even 00:37:05.570 --> 00:37:07.230 concerned about people taking extra pills, because 00:37:07.230 --> 00:37:09.469 I don't know that they care about what happens 00:37:09.469 --> 00:37:11.989 with the pills once they leave the pharmacy. 00:37:12.070 --> 00:37:13.809 I don't know that there's any interest in it 00:37:13.809 --> 00:37:15.909 whatsoever. And I understand there's a lot more 00:37:15.909 --> 00:37:19.469 to it than I know. But. I just know that there 00:37:19.469 --> 00:37:21.550 has to be a better way to do this. There has 00:37:21.550 --> 00:37:24.510 to be. You're literally everyone who needs a 00:37:24.510 --> 00:37:27.349 controlled substance. If you need it and that's 00:37:27.349 --> 00:37:30.469 why you're prescribed it, you are suffering at 00:37:30.469 --> 00:37:33.769 the mercy of a pharmacy. I just don't understand 00:37:33.769 --> 00:37:36.110 it. You're suffering at the mercy of a pharmacy 00:37:36.110 --> 00:37:39.710 or a nurse, a nurse named Brenda that hates you. 00:37:39.889 --> 00:37:42.969 Yeah. Are you ready for reality roundup? Yes. 00:37:43.210 --> 00:37:46.190 Perfect. Before we get into Mormon wives, I want 00:37:46.190 --> 00:37:49.269 to talk about Meredith Marks. And how she's a 00:37:49.269 --> 00:37:53.949 DJ. Yeah. Yes. I love her tour she did for Pride 00:37:53.949 --> 00:37:58.190 Month. She looks cool as fuck. And those arms 00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:02.250 are toned. I I there's something about Meredith 00:38:02.250 --> 00:38:06.170 Marks where she just makes me so happy. Like 00:38:06.170 --> 00:38:08.650 there's there's a love there that I've never 00:38:08.650 --> 00:38:11.869 known or understood from anyone else but Meredith 00:38:11.869 --> 00:38:16.079 Marks. And the fact that she said. I'm going 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.179 to I'm going to go make the gays happy today 00:38:18.179 --> 00:38:22.099 with my music and my little songs. And do you 00:38:22.099 --> 00:38:26.559 know what she's DJing is deep cuts of Britney 00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:32.099 Spears and then remixes of Lisa Barlow calling 00:38:32.099 --> 00:38:35.280 Meredith Marks a poser fan or like her family 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:37.659 that poses and a piece of shit, garbage whore. 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:41.139 And she said, I'm going to monetize the ever 00:38:41.139 --> 00:38:44.480 loving fuck out of this. And I'm so happy, and 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:48.340 I want her to have everything. She just exudes 00:38:48.340 --> 00:38:51.900 that she is herself. Like, she is so genuine. 00:38:52.059 --> 00:38:55.239 She is not pretending for anyone. No, not at 00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.739 all. Which makes it so ironic that Lisa Barlow 00:38:57.739 --> 00:38:59.980 called her a poser and her whole family posers, 00:38:59.980 --> 00:39:02.880 because she's so not that. No, not at all. She's 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:06.460 just like, you can tell she's always been herself, 00:39:06.699 --> 00:39:10.070 period, dot done. And also... I've noticed from 00:39:10.070 --> 00:39:14.929 watching Salt Lake City, she is exceedingly self 00:39:14.929 --> 00:39:19.449 -aware. She knows herself. Yes. And I think that 00:39:19.449 --> 00:39:21.769 makes people mad because she's comfortable with 00:39:21.769 --> 00:39:25.940 herself. A hundred percent. And she's like, I 00:39:25.940 --> 00:39:29.000 know how I'll react to this, so I just need a 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.860 second. Or she'll be like, I know that if this 00:39:32.860 --> 00:39:36.019 goes too far, I will start yelling. Like, she 00:39:36.019 --> 00:39:38.619 is so self -aware, and I really admire that about 00:39:38.619 --> 00:39:42.199 her. Yes. And that we will get into in a couple 00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:44.920 weeks. Because we're going to start recapping 00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.800 Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Yay! All that 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:51.039 being said, real or sorry, Secret Lives of Mormon 00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:54.119 Wives, season two, episode five, The Book of 00:39:54.119 --> 00:40:03.980 Divisions. OK, so this episode, I don't. I don't 00:40:03.980 --> 00:40:05.639 know how I felt about this episode, honestly, 00:40:05.780 --> 00:40:09.559 like there was a lot. So we pick back up at Provisions 00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:12.880 where Macy's having her book announcement and. 00:40:13.469 --> 00:40:16.570 I you and I decided we are going to talk about 00:40:16.570 --> 00:40:20.170 the book when it drops in October. And I've already 00:40:20.170 --> 00:40:23.449 preordered it on my Kindle. So there's that. 00:40:25.409 --> 00:40:29.050 And we pick up where we left off, where they 00:40:29.050 --> 00:40:31.349 have the card from the truth box that's talking 00:40:31.349 --> 00:40:33.110 about Jen being fake. And no one's allowed to 00:40:33.110 --> 00:40:35.309 say who wrote or who wrote it. And then Jen starts 00:40:35.309 --> 00:40:37.929 crying. And it's a really lovely way to end the 00:40:37.929 --> 00:40:42.889 dinner. Yeah. I just don't understand the truth 00:40:42.889 --> 00:40:45.429 box thing. If it's not to stir up drama, what 00:40:45.429 --> 00:40:49.269 is it for? It's certainly not to get shit off 00:40:49.269 --> 00:40:51.289 your chest. It's to hurt people's feelings. No, 00:40:51.289 --> 00:40:57.050 it's 100 % for funsies to hurt people. And that's, 00:40:57.050 --> 00:40:59.989 by the way, just own it because I'm happy about 00:40:59.989 --> 00:41:02.289 it. I love the truth box. Do your truth box. 00:41:02.369 --> 00:41:04.570 I think if that's what you want to do, that's 00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:08.050 what you want to do. I don't know. I don't know. 00:41:08.050 --> 00:41:10.530 I think it's cowardly not to sign it, too. You 00:41:10.530 --> 00:41:13.110 should own up to who wrote it. But I think that's 00:41:13.110 --> 00:41:14.429 the whole point. It's, like, it's anonymous. 00:41:14.849 --> 00:41:17.969 I know, but, like, if you're going to say shit 00:41:17.969 --> 00:41:24.289 like, Jen's fit. I hate Demi. Like, just such 00:41:24.289 --> 00:41:27.929 vague shit like that. At least own up to it so 00:41:27.929 --> 00:41:30.550 you can talk about it. That's fair. I don't know. 00:41:30.690 --> 00:41:34.730 Anyway. Whitney. Whitney at that party was cracking. 00:41:35.570 --> 00:41:37.730 Whitney was a silly goose at that party. She 00:41:37.730 --> 00:41:40.329 said, everyone, I'm having a baby shower. Come 00:41:40.329 --> 00:41:42.889 to the baby shower. There's going to be bunnies. 00:41:43.530 --> 00:41:47.909 Jesus Christ. I was so dead. Whitney, read the 00:41:47.909 --> 00:41:52.530 room. Whitney can't read. I'm just going to say 00:41:52.530 --> 00:41:54.769 that right now. Whitney cannot read a room. No, 00:41:54.769 --> 00:41:59.070 she can't. So everyone leaves. Even though I'm 00:41:59.070 --> 00:42:02.170 not really a big fan of gin. I do think Whitney 00:42:02.170 --> 00:42:04.110 and Miranda were being incredibly good friends 00:42:04.110 --> 00:42:09.429 to her. And Jen in her confessional asked, why 00:42:09.429 --> 00:42:11.829 are these women doing this to me? I honestly 00:42:11.829 --> 00:42:15.690 feel like. Oh, wait, sorry. OK, so Jen in her 00:42:15.690 --> 00:42:17.530 confessional asked, why are these women doing 00:42:17.530 --> 00:42:21.409 this to me? And I feel like she wants blind support 00:42:21.409 --> 00:42:23.610 to do and say literally anything that she wants 00:42:23.610 --> 00:42:25.670 to do. And I think that's what she's mad about, 00:42:25.710 --> 00:42:27.849 is that that's not what she is getting from these 00:42:27.849 --> 00:42:34.239 girls. I don't know. I think that none of them 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.719 have really told her exactly how they feel. None 00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:40.760 of them have really, I mean, Jesse and Demi kind 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:44.539 of, but even they didn't really say it to her. 00:42:44.579 --> 00:42:48.199 They said to Zach more clearly what problems 00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.179 they had with Jen. And they're not really saying 00:42:51.179 --> 00:42:53.420 it to her face. They're just saying that they're 00:42:53.420 --> 00:42:56.960 mad at her in general. Do you see what I'm saying? 00:42:58.699 --> 00:43:02.340 Like no one has sat her down and been like, I 00:43:02.340 --> 00:43:04.239 feel like you lied about this. I feel like you 00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.460 lied about that. You shouldn't have to sit someone 00:43:06.460 --> 00:43:08.219 down. You shouldn't have to sit an adult down 00:43:08.219 --> 00:43:12.780 and be like, hey, you're a compulsive liar. You 00:43:12.780 --> 00:43:15.820 need to stop lying. I mean, I get that. But also 00:43:15.820 --> 00:43:19.039 like if I put myself in her shoes and someone 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:23.739 just starts calling me fake anonymously, if I'm 00:43:23.739 --> 00:43:25.940 like not aware of what you're talking about, 00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:29.309 I'm going to start spiraling. What the fuck do 00:43:29.309 --> 00:43:32.230 you mean by that? I don't know. I don't know. 00:43:32.269 --> 00:43:36.409 OK, OK. I just I felt bad because I also, you 00:43:36.409 --> 00:43:38.389 know, I'm looking back on it now and knowing 00:43:38.389 --> 00:43:40.349 that, you know, she was pregnant and all of that. 00:43:40.550 --> 00:43:44.989 But she is very dramatic about the whole thing. 00:43:45.070 --> 00:43:48.829 She is. Miranda says that she thinks that the 00:43:48.829 --> 00:43:51.329 card was written by either Demi, Michaela or 00:43:51.329 --> 00:43:55.289 Layla. And we find out later that who wrote it. 00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.739 Whitney and Miranda go to a flower shop and Whitney 00:44:00.739 --> 00:44:02.739 talks more about how she's having a baby shower 00:44:02.739 --> 00:44:06.059 after the baby was born because the gender was 00:44:06.059 --> 00:44:10.300 a surprise. And I was always under the impression 00:44:10.300 --> 00:44:12.719 that you only get a baby shower for your first 00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:17.039 baby. Am I completely wrong? So. Most of the 00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:19.659 time, yeah. But, like, I'm going to have another 00:44:19.659 --> 00:44:21.860 baby shower, even though it's my second baby, 00:44:21.940 --> 00:44:23.780 because it's been... It's been seven years, though. 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:26.480 And it's Kenny's first baby. Sure. So I think 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:28.760 there are differences. But when you're having 00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.400 your babies back -to -back, like Whitney is, 00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:34.099 I don't understand it. You still have all the 00:44:34.099 --> 00:44:36.739 stuff. Right. Like, I don't know what... I don't 00:44:36.739 --> 00:44:39.179 know. Okay. If you want an excuse to have a party, 00:44:39.260 --> 00:44:42.559 that's fine. If you like it, I love it. But also, 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:47.050 is it... This is like a thing that genuinely 00:44:47.050 --> 00:44:50.630 bothers me when people say after baby's here 00:44:50.630 --> 00:44:53.949 rather than saying after the baby is here. Yeah, 00:44:54.030 --> 00:44:57.469 like baby is their name. Yeah. I don't know why 00:44:57.469 --> 00:45:01.230 people do that. And like to no end because it's 00:45:01.230 --> 00:45:04.730 like that's just how people talk about babies. 00:45:04.809 --> 00:45:09.119 And I'm like. Yeah. You have to put the in front 00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:10.780 of the baby unless you're going to say its name. 00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:13.980 I do think some people do that in place of saying 00:45:13.980 --> 00:45:17.320 he or she, especially if they decided not to 00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:21.420 find out the gender. The baby is already born. 00:45:21.500 --> 00:45:25.500 She knew what the fucking gender was. I thought 00:45:25.500 --> 00:45:28.619 she was still pregnant in that. No? No, because 00:45:28.619 --> 00:45:31.360 she's having the baby shower after Billy was 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:36.869 born. Right. Which, number one. a baby shower 00:45:36.869 --> 00:45:39.530 after the baby's already there is cheating Jesus 00:45:39.530 --> 00:45:44.309 Christ it's so weird yeah I don't know but yeah 00:45:44.309 --> 00:45:47.969 I know some people have like use baby almost 00:45:47.969 --> 00:45:50.730 as like a pronoun when they don't know the gender 00:45:50.730 --> 00:45:53.090 and that I can kind of understand but why can't 00:45:53.090 --> 00:45:56.670 you just say they I don't know I hate it um when 00:45:56.670 --> 00:45:59.869 he invites everyone to the baby shower but like 00:45:59.869 --> 00:46:02.829 only two so Miranda and Jen are the ones that 00:46:02.829 --> 00:46:05.800 show up and She's happy about that because she's 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.860 getting closer to them and she desperately needs 00:46:07.860 --> 00:46:12.420 friends right now. Yeah. I wrote down that Miranda 00:46:12.420 --> 00:46:14.340 is so pretty and she just looks like a really 00:46:14.340 --> 00:46:16.000 cool girl. Like, I want to be friends with her. 00:46:16.099 --> 00:46:19.139 She's so stunning. And also, I need access to 00:46:19.139 --> 00:46:24.079 her closet ASAP. She always has a fit on. She 00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:27.300 looks good all the time. She's so fucking cool, 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.539 though. Like, she's so cool. I really like Miranda. 00:46:30.739 --> 00:46:33.880 I do. I also wrote down that Whitney needs a 00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:36.579 stylist because she struggles with what Miranda 00:46:36.579 --> 00:46:40.940 excels in. Yeah, that's really hard. I can kind 00:46:40.940 --> 00:46:44.679 of relate to Whitney a little bit on like after 00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:48.199 you have a baby and your body changes, it does 00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:50.739 get like harder to dress yourself. But Miranda's 00:46:50.739 --> 00:46:52.519 had a baby, too. So I don't know. I don't know. 00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:57.039 I can see being becoming a mom doesn't immediately 00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.679 tell you to start running around with a sweater 00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:03.960 with. yarn bows on it yeah that's just not a 00:47:03.960 --> 00:47:06.000 thing that happens i don't think i'm not a mom 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:10.260 i could be wrong no i forgot about that uh yeah 00:47:10.260 --> 00:47:14.239 she really has a hard time dressing herself we 00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:18.159 just watched the i won't jump ahead we'll we'll 00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:20.940 get into it we'll get into it but yeah she really 00:47:20.940 --> 00:47:25.179 does need some closet assistance so when he sends 00:47:25.179 --> 00:47:28.239 a group text to try and plan something really 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:30.940 nice for Macy for her little pickleball thing, 00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:33.599 which I think is really cool. Like, like I know 00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:35.780 I had a hard time with Whitney, but like, I think 00:47:35.780 --> 00:47:37.820 she's actually making, making an effort with 00:47:37.820 --> 00:47:40.980 at least some of the girls, but it does give 00:47:40.980 --> 00:47:42.900 a little bit like she's kissing feet. Cause she 00:47:42.900 --> 00:47:44.980 wants to be back in the group. But that's what 00:47:44.980 --> 00:47:47.320 they want her to do. Like you, she can't win 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.360 for losing. She had to, well, not even, she didn't 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:53.300 have to, but like they're almost, well, she did, 00:47:53.340 --> 00:47:56.199 but. They're almost demanding it. And then when 00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.119 she does it, they're saying it's desperate. And 00:47:58.119 --> 00:47:59.420 that's what I have a hard time with because you're 00:47:59.420 --> 00:48:01.639 gaslighting her. There's nothing she could have 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:05.039 done correctly. She was put in a situation where 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.480 she was very damned if she does, damned if she 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:11.639 doesn't. And to be fair, it's her fault. I won't 00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.380 take that away from anyone else. But there has 00:48:14.380 --> 00:48:16.579 to come a point where you say. I'm not going 00:48:16.579 --> 00:48:18.360 to be a mean girl, and I'm just going to, like, 00:48:18.420 --> 00:48:20.880 we're going to figure it out. Because, like, 00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.139 Michaela especially is being a fucking asshole. 00:48:23.539 --> 00:48:29.679 Yeah. 100%. I do feel like they're making her 00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:32.719 earn that second chance, honey. Like, bullying 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:37.900 her a little bit. Oh, yeah. Taylor goes to her 00:48:37.900 --> 00:48:40.579 mom's house, and we get a flashback of Taylor's 00:48:40.579 --> 00:48:43.059 rotten stepdad, who I literally never want to 00:48:43.059 --> 00:48:45.079 see again. I hope he's never on the show again. 00:48:45.889 --> 00:48:48.929 I honestly hope that what he said at that cookout 00:48:48.929 --> 00:48:52.190 makes him never on camera again. No, I can definitively 00:48:52.190 --> 00:48:55.969 tell you the producers when that happened, they 00:48:55.969 --> 00:49:00.289 have never been so happy in their entire lives 00:49:00.289 --> 00:49:02.989 because they said, oh, this man is out of his 00:49:02.989 --> 00:49:05.889 mind and he will say whatever comes to his mind. 00:49:05.929 --> 00:49:07.570 Well, it's a talking point, right? Like we're 00:49:07.570 --> 00:49:10.659 talking about it, you know, like it. draws attention 00:49:10.659 --> 00:49:13.139 yeah but you know what else drew attention was 00:49:13.139 --> 00:49:15.639 probably him on january 6th allegedly this is 00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:19.559 my opinion i'm not getting sued yeah i would 00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:21.599 just like to know where he was i i just want 00:49:21.599 --> 00:49:25.500 to know i don't like him i don't like him at 00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:29.380 all um they talk about taylor posting tiktoks 00:49:29.380 --> 00:49:30.880 that would suggest she's getting back together 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:34.480 with with dakota and then aspen asks if they're 00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.139 still having sex and taylor's honest about it 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:45.940 Yeah, I. OK, as weird as it is to talk about 00:49:45.940 --> 00:49:51.320 out loud, I was glad that they said that out 00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.659 loud. And then in the confessionals, both Taylor 00:49:54.659 --> 00:49:57.179 and Dakota were honest about the fact that they're 00:49:57.179 --> 00:50:02.360 still having sex because it makes it so much 00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:06.000 clearer. what is going on you know what i mean 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:08.860 like that line was a little hard to follow like 00:50:08.860 --> 00:50:13.179 who in the world would stay around this man like 00:50:13.179 --> 00:50:15.199 what is happening but now that you know that 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.480 they're still having sex it all starts to make 00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:19.960 sense yeah it kind of clicks but you know what 00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:24.629 i could have done without was yeah it was Leanne 00:50:24.629 --> 00:50:27.309 saying, oh, try your vibrator. And then they 00:50:27.309 --> 00:50:28.630 like start to joke about it. And she's like, 00:50:28.670 --> 00:50:29.989 I don't like hearing this. I don't want to hear 00:50:29.989 --> 00:50:31.230 this. I don't want to hear this. And I'm like, 00:50:31.230 --> 00:50:33.070 bitch, you brought it up. You're the one who 00:50:33.070 --> 00:50:36.469 just told your mom you're having sex. No, no, 00:50:36.469 --> 00:50:38.949 no. Leanne is the one that got weird about it. 00:50:39.050 --> 00:50:42.750 Oh. And she's the one that brought it up. Leanne, 00:50:43.030 --> 00:50:46.230 honestly, honey, you're going to have to draw 00:50:46.230 --> 00:50:50.130 a boundary at some point of like, are you a mom 00:50:50.130 --> 00:50:53.440 or are you a friend? Are you trying to be your 00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.820 daughter? Are you anyway? Well, that's that's 00:50:56.820 --> 00:51:00.980 another conversation. Yeah. I just I don't understand 00:51:00.980 --> 00:51:06.980 Leanne. She's so. I don't know. She's like so 00:51:06.980 --> 00:51:09.079 lenient about talking about some things and then 00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.400 some things she's like, oh, no. Why would you 00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.599 say that to your mom? It's like it's a thing 00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.360 where she's like removed enough from the church. 00:51:16.380 --> 00:51:19.659 But like she like. wakes up from being removed 00:51:19.659 --> 00:51:21.340 from the church to where she's like oh i'm weird 00:51:21.340 --> 00:51:23.940 about it but then like i also feel like she's 00:51:23.940 --> 00:51:25.860 on camera and she's like the optics of this people 00:51:25.860 --> 00:51:27.940 are gonna see this like it's there's a lot we'll 00:51:27.940 --> 00:51:29.960 get into it eventually like when i start talking 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:31.880 about like the church and how fucked up some 00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:34.139 of this stuff is but that's i can definitively 00:51:34.139 --> 00:51:35.960 tell you that's what it is and once we recap 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:39.159 the last episode there's more to say about leanne 00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:43.880 oh absolutely um Whitney calls Macy because Michaela 00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.579 posted a TikTok that was a little hateful and 00:51:46.579 --> 00:51:50.519 Macy showed up in it. And I feel like Michaela 00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:55.059 is going too far here. And I think Whitney handled 00:51:55.059 --> 00:51:57.579 the conversation with or I think Macy handled 00:51:57.579 --> 00:51:59.300 the conversation with Whitney really well. I 00:51:59.300 --> 00:52:01.440 think they both handled it very well. My queen. 00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:04.780 Macy is so full of grace and elegance. I love 00:52:04.780 --> 00:52:06.840 her so much. Macy can do no wrong in my eyes 00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:10.739 as far as I'm concerned. Whitney decides she 00:52:10.739 --> 00:52:12.440 wants to talk to Michaela one -on -one before 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.940 the girls trip. And I'm just like, God bless. 00:52:16.059 --> 00:52:19.440 Like that's, that's brave of you. And. Yeah. 00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:24.440 And then Whitney says, mom talk is driven by 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.059 love and unity. And I wonder if she's going to 00:52:27.059 --> 00:52:29.860 keep this same level of energy going into the 00:52:29.860 --> 00:52:31.739 end of the season. She didn't have that energy 00:52:31.739 --> 00:52:33.940 last season when she was talking shit about all 00:52:33.940 --> 00:52:37.309 her friends. Number one. And number two. I feel 00:52:37.309 --> 00:52:39.829 like Michaela's just kind of a coward. Like, 00:52:39.829 --> 00:52:42.750 I feel like she doesn't want Whitney in the group. 00:52:42.969 --> 00:52:46.849 And instead of just saying that out loud to anyone, 00:52:47.070 --> 00:52:50.030 she's just bullying the ever -loving fuck out 00:52:50.030 --> 00:52:52.909 of her to try to make her go away. Because she 00:52:52.909 --> 00:52:55.309 doesn't want to be responsible for Whitney not 00:52:55.309 --> 00:52:58.179 being in MomTalk, but she... Doesn't want her 00:52:58.179 --> 00:53:00.179 there. Exactly. She wants it to be Whitney's 00:53:00.179 --> 00:53:02.059 decision. So she's going to make it as uncomfortable 00:53:02.059 --> 00:53:05.420 as possible. Yeah. So she's like being mean out 00:53:05.420 --> 00:53:09.780 loud and like making it as crazy as she possibly 00:53:09.780 --> 00:53:13.719 can without ever just saying out loud, I'm not 00:53:13.719 --> 00:53:16.500 comfortable with Whitney here. Right. You could 00:53:16.500 --> 00:53:20.539 have just said that to all the girls and I bet 00:53:20.539 --> 00:53:23.380 they would have figured it out. Yeah. It's that 00:53:23.380 --> 00:53:26.340 simple. Just communicate diva. Whitney has wronged 00:53:26.340 --> 00:53:28.800 other girls in the group, too. Like, I don't. 00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:32.139 For sure. I don't understand it. But, like, also, 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:36.440 you have to have a villain. And, like, at some 00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:38.000 point, I think you just kind of have to accept 00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.739 that, like. Someone's got to stay the call. Someone's, 00:53:41.739 --> 00:53:45.030 yeah. Or nothing will happen. And also. You're 00:53:45.030 --> 00:53:47.530 going to have to be involved in life with people 00:53:47.530 --> 00:53:49.070 that you don't like sometimes, and you have the 00:53:49.070 --> 00:53:50.730 right to remove yourself from the situation, 00:53:50.989 --> 00:53:53.030 but you can't just be an asshole because it's 00:53:53.030 --> 00:53:57.230 ugly. I think that's where Michaela's cowardice 00:53:57.230 --> 00:53:59.789 kind of comes from, is I do think she's kind 00:53:59.789 --> 00:54:02.550 of afraid that if she says she wants Whitney 00:54:02.550 --> 00:54:07.130 out, they'll boot her instead. Oh, okay. I get 00:54:07.130 --> 00:54:11.510 that, yeah. Well, we'll see how it shakes out. 00:54:12.049 --> 00:54:14.349 But I think the girls really like Michaela. I 00:54:14.349 --> 00:54:16.670 think that she just can't see that she's well 00:54:16.670 --> 00:54:18.409 -liked. No, I think she just needs to grow up 00:54:18.409 --> 00:54:20.670 a little bit. A hundred percent. And I mean, 00:54:20.690 --> 00:54:23.090 a lot has happened in her life to make her kind 00:54:23.090 --> 00:54:28.190 of juvenile for her age. But girl, I did not 00:54:28.190 --> 00:54:30.590 like, I did not see the side of her last season 00:54:30.590 --> 00:54:33.530 either. Like I thought she was very just chill. 00:54:33.750 --> 00:54:35.670 I wonder if she was this way in like high school 00:54:35.670 --> 00:54:38.690 and college and like. if this is just how she 00:54:38.690 --> 00:54:40.389 treated other people and this just feels normal 00:54:40.389 --> 00:54:43.309 to her like if you don't like someone this is 00:54:43.309 --> 00:54:48.289 how you act to them yeah yeah i don't know they're 00:54:48.289 --> 00:54:51.829 all very young michaela and jen especially so 00:54:51.829 --> 00:54:55.670 i feel like maybe she really just is in that 00:54:55.670 --> 00:54:59.269 stage of life like i wasn't training people like 00:54:59.269 --> 00:55:03.429 this at 24 no no certainly not certainly not 00:55:03.429 --> 00:55:07.300 um Jesse and Demi go to Pilates, and Jesse expects 00:55:07.300 --> 00:55:09.300 people to believe that she only works out one 00:55:09.300 --> 00:55:12.059 to two days a year, which is a blatant fucking 00:55:12.059 --> 00:55:15.579 lie. If she only works out one to two days a 00:55:15.579 --> 00:55:18.940 year, she's getting cool sculpting the other 00:55:18.940 --> 00:55:24.489 360 days a year. Like, she looks... Incredible. 00:55:24.550 --> 00:55:27.909 And maybe she has good genetics. Maybe like whatever. 00:55:28.150 --> 00:55:30.369 Some people are naturally skinny, but she's not 00:55:30.369 --> 00:55:33.329 just skinny. She has like toned muscles. Yeah. 00:55:33.670 --> 00:55:38.250 Like I don't buy it. I just can't buy it. I don't. 00:55:38.250 --> 00:55:41.369 Or maybe she's like does a lot of housework or 00:55:41.369 --> 00:55:44.449 something. I don't know. Well, she's on her feet 00:55:44.449 --> 00:55:47.730 all day at the salon. I'll buy that. But like 00:55:47.730 --> 00:55:53.010 standing doesn't. tone you yeah i will say like 00:55:53.010 --> 00:55:55.949 doing hair kind of does like work out your arms 00:55:55.949 --> 00:55:59.210 okay that's fair yeah but like but you've got 00:55:59.210 --> 00:56:02.349 incredible legs she goes to these workout classes 00:56:02.349 --> 00:56:06.369 and she's not struggling she's not like no she's 00:56:06.369 --> 00:56:10.289 like and she's also so fucking hot like i know 00:56:10.619 --> 00:56:12.900 I wonder if part of it is like she can't like 00:56:12.900 --> 00:56:15.960 take credit for the work she puts in and she's 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:17.860 just like, I don't know. It just happens like 00:56:17.860 --> 00:56:20.599 which. Yeah. I kind of hate people like that. 00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:22.679 But at the same time, like the church will do 00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:26.059 that to you. I get it. I do. And I do feel like 00:56:26.059 --> 00:56:29.460 she grinds the fuck out. I feel like she if she's 00:56:29.460 --> 00:56:32.639 working out, she's waking up at like 5 a .m., 00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.420 working out, going to the salon all day and then 00:56:35.420 --> 00:56:38.760 coming home to her husband. Like, that's a lot. 00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.599 Oh, yeah. In, like, an everyday routine. Plus, 00:56:41.699 --> 00:56:44.920 she's filming this show. Mm -hmm. Like, that's 00:56:44.920 --> 00:56:49.320 a lot. Um, Jesse and Demi decide they're not 00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.039 going to Whitney's baby shower, so instead they're 00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:53.920 going to do a hibachi night for everyone not 00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:57.960 going, and I fucking love hibachi so much. Me 00:56:57.960 --> 00:57:00.179 too. I've had hibachi twice in, like, the last 00:57:00.179 --> 00:57:03.789 two weeks. I'm so I love Hibashi. I love the 00:57:03.789 --> 00:57:06.050 whole song and dance. I love the show. I love. 00:57:06.170 --> 00:57:08.230 Yeah, I love the theatrics. The catching the 00:57:08.230 --> 00:57:12.550 piece of chicken in your mouth. I love it. Jesse 00:57:12.550 --> 00:57:15.230 thinks it's weird that Whitney invited the group 00:57:15.230 --> 00:57:17.829 because it's assumed that half the girls weren't. 00:57:18.010 --> 00:57:21.469 won't show up but again i feel like if anyone 00:57:21.469 --> 00:57:23.429 had been left out of the invite it would have 00:57:23.429 --> 00:57:25.929 been a whole thing so i feel like whitney cannot 00:57:25.929 --> 00:57:29.289 win for losing demi is being so petty and again 00:57:29.289 --> 00:57:31.050 it's whitney being damned if she does damned 00:57:31.050 --> 00:57:33.469 if she doesn't because like you would have been 00:57:33.469 --> 00:57:36.710 mad if you didn't get an invitation it's an olive 00:57:36.710 --> 00:57:41.349 branch she is inviting you to celebrate her baby 00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.460 It's an olive branch. You don't have to accept 00:57:45.460 --> 00:57:47.699 it. You don't have to grab the olive branch. 00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:52.000 But you don't have to be such a petty bitch about 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:55.599 it either. She's such a bitch. God. And I hate 00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:59.500 saying that about a woman, but Demi. Not about 00:57:59.500 --> 00:58:02.039 Demi. I do not feel bad about that. She is a 00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:07.800 bitch. God. And Demi says she wants a calm, chill 00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:10.380 girls trip. Shut the fuck up. No, you don't. 00:58:10.380 --> 00:58:12.360 You've never wanted a calm, chill trip in your 00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.440 entire fucking life. This is what you live for. 00:58:14.460 --> 00:58:18.280 You live for discourse in the group. And the 00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:23.139 second that you feel the effects of that, then 00:58:23.139 --> 00:58:25.460 you get on the cross. You love this shit, though. 00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.340 I just feel like like this scene is such a good 00:58:29.340 --> 00:58:33.409 example of why I feel this way. The whole time 00:58:33.409 --> 00:58:36.449 I was watching season two, Demi specifically 00:58:36.449 --> 00:58:41.670 is so scripted. Like she's thought about what 00:58:41.670 --> 00:58:45.230 she wants to say long before she was ever in 00:58:45.230 --> 00:58:48.829 front of the camera. She gives script. I would 00:58:48.829 --> 00:58:52.590 go as far as to say that she paid writers to 00:58:52.590 --> 00:58:54.710 write some of this for her. A hundred percent. 00:58:54.750 --> 00:58:57.829 Or she just like hopped on chat GPT. Maybe. She, 00:58:57.949 --> 00:59:02.449 I swear to God. Famously your best friend. This 00:59:02.449 --> 00:59:04.469 kind of gets confirmed in the reunion, which 00:59:04.469 --> 00:59:07.269 we'll get to. But like, yeah, she wants to control 00:59:07.269 --> 00:59:11.250 this narrative so badly that I genuinely think 00:59:11.250 --> 00:59:13.170 she's coming up with what she's going to say 00:59:13.170 --> 00:59:16.670 to her friends before she's ever there, which 00:59:16.670 --> 00:59:21.730 is just weird. It is. So we go to Jen and Zach 00:59:21.730 --> 00:59:25.199 and apparently Jen's living in an Airbnb. love 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:28.179 that for her i guess um she talks in her confessional 00:59:28.179 --> 00:59:31.179 about how she chose mom talk and how she feels 00:59:31.179 --> 00:59:35.559 like she made a bad choice and i'm like mom talk 00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.719 or being a member of mom talk does not require 00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:41.199 you to lie to everyone i do not understand why 00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:43.559 you feel like mom talk is the problem here because 00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:48.099 you have made the decision to lie to everyone 00:59:48.099 --> 00:59:51.769 that you and your friends come across yes Everyone 00:59:51.769 --> 00:59:54.130 you love, you have lied to. Everyone that you 00:59:54.130 --> 00:59:57.929 hate, you've lied to. Yeah, and I don't understand 00:59:57.929 --> 01:00:00.429 this whole... They're acting like you signed 01:00:00.429 --> 01:00:04.570 a contract to be in MomTalk. You're just in a 01:00:04.570 --> 01:00:07.869 group that makes TikToks and is now on Hulu. 01:00:08.010 --> 01:00:12.269 You're not signing away your rights or anything. 01:00:13.349 --> 01:00:17.050 It's so strange because no other friend group... 01:00:17.369 --> 01:00:20.610 that I've ever witnessed is like, I just want 01:00:20.610 --> 01:00:24.590 to be part of this name that we've made up. Like 01:00:24.590 --> 01:00:29.769 it's so strange to me. And it's like, mom talks, 01:00:29.769 --> 01:00:31.889 not the problem. And Zach's not the problem. 01:00:31.969 --> 01:00:35.150 We talk about this all the time. It's the difference 01:00:35.150 --> 01:00:38.230 in values between the two. You got to pick one. 01:00:38.309 --> 01:00:42.929 Right. Yeah. I, I mean, I, she can, she's a liar. 01:00:43.010 --> 01:00:46.469 Like I, I do think that. Yeah, there is a difference 01:00:46.469 --> 01:00:48.309 in values between her and Zach, but I also do 01:00:48.309 --> 01:00:51.409 think Zach is part of the problem. I don't think 01:00:51.409 --> 01:00:54.610 in this scenario, I think that he is an innocent 01:00:54.610 --> 01:00:57.510 bystander, but I think that he contributes to 01:00:57.510 --> 01:01:01.269 the problem. Well, and you have to see like why 01:01:01.269 --> 01:01:04.090 she wasn't comfortable with telling him the whole 01:01:04.090 --> 01:01:06.570 truth about the Chippendales thing is because 01:01:06.570 --> 01:01:10.650 she knew how he would react. Yes, that is true. 01:01:10.710 --> 01:01:15.380 So it's like, yes, she's lying. but to some point 01:01:15.380 --> 01:01:17.920 I can see what led her to do that. And not that 01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:20.739 it was ever okay for her to do, but I can see 01:01:20.739 --> 01:01:23.340 why that was the easy way out for her. Absolutely. 01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:25.440 Because she knows that her husband doesn't agree 01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:29.780 with what's going on in mom talk. Right. It's 01:01:29.780 --> 01:01:33.360 that simple. I don't know. Um, she feels like 01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.500 Jesse and Demi are trying to get the girls to 01:01:35.500 --> 01:01:38.440 turn against her. And I feel like we have found 01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:42.500 ourselves in a situation where jan is not living 01:01:42.500 --> 01:01:45.159 in the same reality as we are she just needs 01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:48.179 some accountability yes she just needs to hold 01:01:48.179 --> 01:01:51.139 herself accountable for what she's done and it's 01:01:51.139 --> 01:01:54.760 okay to say okay yeah i haven't been the best 01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:58.039 friend i haven't been the best wife and then 01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:02.730 explain yourself girl be like i feel like I have 01:02:02.730 --> 01:02:05.230 my hands in two pots and they don't get along. 01:02:05.510 --> 01:02:08.550 Just say that out loud. And I bet your friends 01:02:08.550 --> 01:02:12.210 and your husband who all want you to be happy 01:02:12.210 --> 01:02:17.090 will accommodate you. I think to some extent, 01:02:17.170 --> 01:02:20.030 both sides would try to accommodate you if they 01:02:20.030 --> 01:02:23.170 knew how you were feeling. Well, and if mom talk 01:02:23.170 --> 01:02:25.670 is truly all about lifting other women up and 01:02:25.670 --> 01:02:27.809 doing that, I think if you're honest about that, 01:02:27.869 --> 01:02:33.679 you will be met with. Grace. Grace and like open 01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:37.780 arms and love. But instead, you are doing everything 01:02:37.780 --> 01:02:39.820 in your power to fuck that up. It's almost like 01:02:39.820 --> 01:02:43.320 she's trying to create a facade and she's just 01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:48.579 not good at it. Yes. I agree. Jesse goes to meet 01:02:48.579 --> 01:02:51.519 up with Jen and I literally wrote Jesse is so 01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:53.400 pretty and I feel like she does such a good job 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:56.059 talking in her confessionals. Her eyes are so 01:02:56.059 --> 01:03:00.119 blue. Have you ever noticed that? They're like. 01:03:00.570 --> 01:03:03.690 bright blue they're stunning and i don't think 01:03:03.690 --> 01:03:06.110 it's contacts i've never noticed her eyes specifically 01:03:06.110 --> 01:03:08.369 but i i like i look at her and i'm just like 01:03:08.369 --> 01:03:10.710 i'm looking at the face of an angel i am looking 01:03:10.710 --> 01:03:15.670 into a face that was sculpted by the lord and 01:03:15.670 --> 01:03:19.909 a little bit by heather but perhaps but here 01:03:19.909 --> 01:03:21.849 we are but she looks stunning she looks stunning 01:03:21.849 --> 01:03:26.019 she is gorgeous And listen, if you use some of 01:03:26.019 --> 01:03:28.320 your millions of dollars to help you look gorgeous, 01:03:28.579 --> 01:03:33.440 I support you. I support that. In the car with 01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.800 Zach on the way to meet Jessie, Jen says that 01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:37.699 the girls haven't seen the other side of her 01:03:37.699 --> 01:03:40.880 and that she was raised in the hood. Oh, cringe, 01:03:41.219 --> 01:03:43.880 cringe, cringe, cringe, cringe. I've never cringed 01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:46.260 so hard in my life. When she said, meet me outside. 01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:49.880 How about that? I said, oh, Jesus Christ, Jen, 01:03:50.059 --> 01:03:53.719 you. What really got me was when she says, yeah, 01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:56.860 I was born in Provo, but I was raised in the 01:03:56.860 --> 01:04:00.099 hood. I love that Zach has to remind her like, 01:04:00.179 --> 01:04:02.380 hey, we're not related to Ben Affleck. We're 01:04:02.380 --> 01:04:06.360 not. You were born in Provo, Utah. I do think 01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:11.480 that. For as many faults as Zach has. He lives 01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:16.139 in reality. He does live to tie Jen back to Earth. 01:04:16.780 --> 01:04:24.659 I mean, someone has to. So she shows up to this. 01:04:25.759 --> 01:04:27.960 I think it's a dessert place. I don't know. But 01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.280 Jen tries to spin the situation into one where 01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:32.960 Jesse is genuinely trying to hurt her. And Jesse 01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.059 flat out gets to the point where she says, you 01:04:35.059 --> 01:04:37.159 are a liar. You are the liar in this situation. 01:04:37.300 --> 01:04:40.940 So at this point, Jen has heard it. I feel like 01:04:40.940 --> 01:04:43.900 we've really lost the plot when it comes to this 01:04:43.900 --> 01:04:46.199 whole Chippendales thing. Because at this point, 01:04:46.300 --> 01:04:47.980 if you really look at it for what it is, it's 01:04:47.980 --> 01:04:50.659 just a bad idea that was poorly executed. It 01:04:50.659 --> 01:04:53.579 was never that serious. No. It was never that 01:04:53.579 --> 01:04:59.360 serious ever. If it was that serious, Zach could 01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:01.199 have stood up and said, I'm not comfortable with 01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:03.920 this. We need to leave. Jen could have said, 01:05:04.079 --> 01:05:07.199 hey, I didn't know that this was the extent that 01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:10.440 it was going to go to. No one did that in this 01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:12.920 situation. And we have blown it so far out of 01:05:12.920 --> 01:05:15.679 proportion. And I am so sick and tired of hearing 01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:18.840 about it. I know. I know. It just needs to be 01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:22.760 dropped. Like, it seriously just needs to be 01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:27.260 dropped. The Ben Affleck thing comes up again. 01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:34.679 And. I know, I know. I can't I can't handle it. 01:05:35.579 --> 01:05:38.639 It's another thing that, again, it's just not 01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:40.860 that serious. And you literally just never need 01:05:40.860 --> 01:05:42.639 to talk about it again. If you just stop saying 01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:45.480 it, it goes away. Seriously. But you were so 01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:47.019 obsessed with it. Like you were so obsessed. 01:05:47.699 --> 01:05:54.219 And then Jen. Jen planned this. Jen planned what 01:05:54.219 --> 01:05:56.500 she says here, where she says she knows about 01:05:56.500 --> 01:05:58.659 Jesse's past. And then she says, if you're looking 01:05:58.659 --> 01:06:01.440 to swing with us, it's a no. And then she walks 01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:03.460 out like she just dropped the biggest truth bomb. 01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:07.340 Like the anger behind it, too. It was so misplaced. 01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:13.139 Like Jesse invited you here to try to clear the 01:06:13.139 --> 01:06:16.719 air. And now you're just throwing stones for 01:06:16.719 --> 01:06:19.519 for no reason. All she wanted you to do is be 01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:23.440 accountable. And you couldn't. And on top of 01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:25.780 that, you're going to bring up her past in the 01:06:25.780 --> 01:06:29.380 swinging. I don't I just can't follow. Let me 01:06:29.380 --> 01:06:32.239 tell you something right now. If Jesse said, 01:06:32.500 --> 01:06:35.739 hey, I want to swing with you, Travis. What an 01:06:35.739 --> 01:06:38.079 honor and a privilege. Oh, my God. We don't even 01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:40.820 need to invite Kenny Queen. I don't need to hear 01:06:40.820 --> 01:06:44.039 anything else. I'm all in. Yeah. Take me away. 01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:49.289 And I listen, I. You know, given my orientation, 01:06:49.769 --> 01:06:52.570 I would hope that Jordan's there. That's that's 01:06:52.570 --> 01:06:54.170 not a deal breaker for me if he's not, though. 01:06:54.230 --> 01:06:56.130 If it's just me and Jesse, she's the most beautiful 01:06:56.130 --> 01:06:57.750 woman on God's green earth. And if I just got 01:06:57.750 --> 01:06:59.389 to sit there and brush her hair, how lucky would 01:06:59.389 --> 01:07:04.150 I be? She and Macy both. Oh, my God. Wow. Wow. 01:07:04.250 --> 01:07:08.090 Wow. Wow. Wow. So Michaela's in the car with 01:07:08.090 --> 01:07:12.030 Macy and Macy decides that when they're five 01:07:12.030 --> 01:07:14.969 minutes away from meeting up with Whitney, that 01:07:14.969 --> 01:07:17.360 this is the time to say, hey. We're going to 01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.559 meet up with Whitney. I feel like that was a 01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:22.360 good way to do it. You kind of had to trap her 01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:24.000 into it because she never would have said yes. 01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:27.079 No, 100 percent. But like Michaela is a mean 01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:30.320 girl about it. And it really does seem like Whitney 01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:32.699 is trying to extend the olive branch. I wrote 01:07:32.699 --> 01:07:35.260 down expand the olive branch, but we get it. 01:07:36.340 --> 01:07:38.480 Michaela is completely closed off to it. But 01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:42.460 to be fair. I do feel like this was really sprung 01:07:42.460 --> 01:07:45.199 on Michaela and like I would be very pissed about 01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:47.480 it, too. And also there's nothing wrong with 01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:50.900 rejecting Whitney's olive branch. If you don't 01:07:50.900 --> 01:07:53.559 want to be friends with Whitney, that's fine. 01:07:53.699 --> 01:07:56.360 You don't have to be friends with everyone. That's 01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:58.079 where the conversation should end then. Yeah, 01:07:58.219 --> 01:08:00.500 that's the end of it. I agree. And what you don't 01:08:00.500 --> 01:08:04.889 need to do is keep talking about Whitney. That's 01:08:04.889 --> 01:08:06.269 what you don't need to do. You don't need to 01:08:06.269 --> 01:08:08.769 make passive aggressive TikToks. You never need 01:08:08.769 --> 01:08:11.489 to bring up her name ever again. Because you're 01:08:11.489 --> 01:08:13.210 continuing to give it life at this point. You're 01:08:13.210 --> 01:08:15.849 the problem. Yes. That's how I feel about it 01:08:15.849 --> 01:08:20.369 at least. I just feel like she is being so not 01:08:20.369 --> 01:08:22.670 chill about it. Like if you don't want to be 01:08:22.670 --> 01:08:24.210 friends, don't be friends. But it doesn't have 01:08:24.210 --> 01:08:28.310 to be this like constant swirl of drama. I agree. 01:08:28.449 --> 01:08:30.869 Because I also feel like Whitney would drop it 01:08:30.869 --> 01:08:33.829 and just never talk to Michaela if Michaela would 01:08:33.829 --> 01:08:36.569 stop posting all these TikToks and saying mean 01:08:36.569 --> 01:08:41.529 shit. Right. I agree. Decayla goes over to Taylor's 01:08:41.529 --> 01:08:44.770 house and Taylor's made the decision that they 01:08:44.770 --> 01:08:47.250 need a break. And I feel like she does a really, 01:08:47.270 --> 01:08:49.949 really good job of being honest about this. And 01:08:49.949 --> 01:08:52.029 I think she handles this very, very well. And 01:08:52.029 --> 01:08:54.210 I think therapy is really working for her. I'm 01:08:54.210 --> 01:08:56.329 very proud of Taylor in this moment. Yeah, she 01:08:56.329 --> 01:09:01.130 was very mature in that whole thing. I think 01:09:01.130 --> 01:09:03.789 as soon as she decided to take a break from Dakota, 01:09:04.090 --> 01:09:08.050 she's she seems lighter. Yeah. And she seems 01:09:08.050 --> 01:09:10.670 more like a grown up. Yes. She's acting more 01:09:10.670 --> 01:09:15.050 like an adult. Yes. Dakota looks like he's going 01:09:15.050 --> 01:09:17.210 to cry, and I'll buy that he was, like, actually... 01:09:17.210 --> 01:09:19.609 He's a crier. Yes. Like, I'll buy that it was 01:09:19.609 --> 01:09:22.229 real, because, like, I feel like some guys would 01:09:22.229 --> 01:09:24.449 be like, oh, no, like, he's full of shit. No, 01:09:24.529 --> 01:09:27.149 I think that was real. He cries all the time. 01:09:27.289 --> 01:09:30.810 He does. Like, yeah, I believe. And he acknowledges 01:09:30.810 --> 01:09:32.789 in his confessional that he's triggering for 01:09:32.789 --> 01:09:36.149 Taylor and decides to... focus on being a good 01:09:36.149 --> 01:09:39.250 dad forever. And I feel like if we can follow 01:09:39.250 --> 01:09:41.630 through on this, what a day the Lord will have 01:09:41.630 --> 01:09:43.970 made. That is so beautiful, right? Because I 01:09:43.970 --> 01:09:45.810 think that's really their problem is they have 01:09:45.810 --> 01:09:48.550 this love for each other and they're not willing 01:09:48.550 --> 01:09:51.170 to admit that it can't be romantic. It's okay 01:09:51.170 --> 01:09:54.510 to, I think it's honestly great if you're just 01:09:54.510 --> 01:09:56.510 going to co -parent and that's your relationship 01:09:56.510 --> 01:09:59.050 and you love each other. I think that's wonderful. 01:09:59.449 --> 01:10:03.689 Pour that into your son. Yes. Yeah. But you don't 01:10:03.689 --> 01:10:06.970 need to keep having sex and you don't need to 01:10:06.970 --> 01:10:11.449 try and work out your relationship. I agree. 01:10:12.350 --> 01:10:16.189 So we'll see how that shakes out. We get to Whitney's 01:10:16.189 --> 01:10:18.850 baby shower. Miranda, Macy, Taylor and Jen show 01:10:18.850 --> 01:10:23.149 up. And we find out that the bunnies are like 01:10:23.149 --> 01:10:25.090 a replacement for people wanting to hold the 01:10:25.090 --> 01:10:31.390 baby. And I, I feel like. If you don't want someone 01:10:31.390 --> 01:10:34.130 to hold your fucking baby, they don't get to 01:10:34.130 --> 01:10:36.470 hold your baby and you don't need to give them 01:10:36.470 --> 01:10:39.409 shit like you do not owe them anything. And I 01:10:39.409 --> 01:10:41.529 have a very hard time with people that like will 01:10:41.529 --> 01:10:45.369 push this boundary. And I feel like Whitney said. 01:10:46.300 --> 01:10:48.119 I have people in my life that aren't going to 01:10:48.119 --> 01:10:49.920 be okay with this, so I'm going to make a joke 01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:51.760 out of it and, like, do the bunny thing. But, 01:10:51.779 --> 01:10:54.119 like, I feel very uncomfortable with people that 01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:55.600 are not willing to accept when people don't want 01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.300 them to hold their kids. I don't like that. I 01:10:57.300 --> 01:11:00.960 didn't like that rationalization of the bunnies. 01:11:00.979 --> 01:11:03.199 Like, I didn't like that being the reasoning. 01:11:03.539 --> 01:11:05.460 Like, if you want to have bunnies at a baby shower, 01:11:05.600 --> 01:11:10.069 like, whatever. Be cute. Be fun. But don't. You 01:11:10.069 --> 01:11:11.970 shouldn't. It's weird. It shouldn't be a requirement, 01:11:12.069 --> 01:11:14.250 though, so people don't, like, try to hold your 01:11:14.250 --> 01:11:18.130 kid. Yeah. You know? And also, what is with people 01:11:18.130 --> 01:11:21.869 even trying to hold fresh, brand new babies? 01:11:21.890 --> 01:11:23.729 It's weird to me. I don't want to hold anyone's 01:11:23.729 --> 01:11:26.590 baby. I'm sorry. When they're weeks old? When 01:11:26.590 --> 01:11:29.970 they're any age, I don't want to hold a baby. 01:11:30.449 --> 01:11:33.289 Period. Sorry. When I had Jack, a lot of people 01:11:33.289 --> 01:11:36.689 came to the hospital. And, like, that was fine 01:11:36.689 --> 01:11:42.159 because it was all. basically where I would have 01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:45.279 drawn the line is if like every single person 01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:47.880 I've ever met also showed up to the hospital 01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:50.399 to try to hold a baby. I don't care who it is. 01:11:50.420 --> 01:11:52.779 If it's family, if it's your sister, if it is, 01:11:52.800 --> 01:11:56.199 if it's your parents, if you are not in a place 01:11:56.199 --> 01:11:58.600 where you want your kid to be held for what, 01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.699 I don't care what the reason is. If you are not 01:12:01.699 --> 01:12:03.359 comfortable with that and that's the boundary 01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:06.479 you're setting. That's enough. People have to 01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:09.359 respect that. You can't just, like, claim a baby 01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:11.100 that's not yours. It's so weird. They can respect 01:12:11.100 --> 01:12:16.739 it or not. Fuck you. Period. Sorry. So, we find 01:12:16.739 --> 01:12:19.279 out Connor got a vasectomy, so I guess this is 01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:23.300 their last kid. Yeah. We also, what were you 01:12:23.300 --> 01:12:28.319 going to say? Sorry. Nothing. Okay. We also find 01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:30.460 out that Layla was the one who wrote the note 01:12:30.460 --> 01:12:33.119 about Jen being fake. And Jen says that she feels 01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:34.979 like it was Layla's attempt at fitting in because 01:12:34.979 --> 01:12:39.479 Jesse and Demi are being mean to her. No. I'm 01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:42.680 rolling my eyes. I'm rolling my eyes. Jen, when 01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.579 are you going to admit that you are the problem? 01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:49.560 Layla recognized that you were a liar and de 01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:55.399 facto fake. Fake against the truth. I just don't 01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:58.399 understand. Like, Jen really is one of those 01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:02.079 people who, like, drama just surrounds me. Drama 01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:04.020 follows me all around. Does it? And, like, she 01:13:04.020 --> 01:13:07.460 never realizes that it's her. Does it follow 01:13:07.460 --> 01:13:09.720 you around everywhere? Does it seem like you're 01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:11.960 always in drama? Because you're a fucking liar, 01:13:12.119 --> 01:13:16.479 Jen. You are the drama. Like, I don't know when 01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:19.340 that starts clicking for people, but, like... 01:13:19.659 --> 01:13:22.479 If you are a person that cannot escape drama, 01:13:22.699 --> 01:13:25.880 if you feel like people are always turning against 01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:31.619 you, you have to look within. That's the long 01:13:31.619 --> 01:13:37.260 and short of it. So we cut to the hibachi dinner 01:13:37.260 --> 01:13:40.260 at Jesse's house where Demi, Layla and Michaela 01:13:40.260 --> 01:13:44.180 show up. Jessie talks about in her confessional 01:13:44.180 --> 01:13:46.579 that she's done the swinging thing before. She 01:13:46.579 --> 01:13:49.699 shared it with Jen and she feels hurt that now 01:13:49.699 --> 01:13:52.060 Jen is weaponizing that against her. Saying it 01:13:52.060 --> 01:13:54.920 on camera. Because she's an asshole. Yeah. Like, 01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.859 and here's the God's honest truth. I don't care 01:13:57.859 --> 01:13:59.819 if anyone's ever been a swinger or whatever, 01:13:59.960 --> 01:14:03.659 but if it's something that you aren't comfortable 01:14:03.659 --> 01:14:05.779 with the world knowing and you shared it in confidence, 01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:08.779 like, Jen knew what the fuck she was doing there. 01:14:09.269 --> 01:14:11.750 That was gross. To bring it up on camera. Yes. 01:14:11.810 --> 01:14:15.329 And she knew it was, too. 100%. That was pure 01:14:15.329 --> 01:14:20.710 venom from Jen. And then Taylor, back at Whitney's 01:14:20.710 --> 01:14:22.890 baby shower, Taylor feels like Demi looks down 01:14:22.890 --> 01:14:25.090 on the rest of the girls for being trash and 01:14:25.090 --> 01:14:27.470 doesn't actually share anything about her real 01:14:27.470 --> 01:14:29.149 life, which kind of comes back to the thing you 01:14:29.149 --> 01:14:31.350 were saying about everything is scripted. It's 01:14:31.350 --> 01:14:32.949 the image she wants to portray to the world. 01:14:33.010 --> 01:14:36.239 It's the cease and desist of it all. I think 01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:38.720 Taylor's 100 % right there. And that's tea. We 01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:41.300 don't hear anything about what Demi's got going 01:14:41.300 --> 01:14:43.340 on. No, because she doesn't have anything going 01:14:43.340 --> 01:14:48.180 on because her entire storyline is hating Taylor. 01:14:48.539 --> 01:14:54.180 Yeah. So that being said, Taylor decides it's 01:14:54.180 --> 01:14:56.279 the perfect time to share the Center Sunday rumor 01:14:56.279 --> 01:14:59.079 about Brett allegedly hooking up with someone 01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:01.899 because Jen deserves to have a backbone and fight 01:15:01.899 --> 01:15:04.930 for herself. And you know what I love about Taylor 01:15:04.930 --> 01:15:07.670 at the end of the day is that she will be messy. 01:15:07.930 --> 01:15:12.029 She will bring mess. And she, like us, loves 01:15:12.029 --> 01:15:13.930 mess. And she knows what she's here to deliver. 01:15:14.189 --> 01:15:17.109 And she's strategic about it. She's not like 01:15:17.109 --> 01:15:21.890 out to just hurt anyone. She's like, oh, I know 01:15:21.890 --> 01:15:26.229 how to get back at you. Yes. 100%. And that's 01:15:26.229 --> 01:15:28.840 where the episode leaves off a little. A little 01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:31.239 cliffhanger there. They love a cliffhanger on 01:15:31.239 --> 01:15:33.859 that show. They really do. They love to keep 01:15:33.859 --> 01:15:38.380 you coming back for more. Well, dear listener, 01:15:38.500 --> 01:15:40.439 that brings us to the end of another episode 01:15:40.439 --> 01:15:42.720 of Bestie Approved. This one was a weird one. 01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:46.760 Like, I don't hate, like, the... Kind of all 01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:49.579 over the map. 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