WEBVTT 00:00:12.490 --> 00:00:15.849 I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. What's the last song 00:00:15.849 --> 00:00:18.929 you listened to? Um, that's a good question. 00:00:19.429 --> 00:00:22.769 Oh, Ivy by Frank Ocean. Oh, that's a good one. 00:00:23.170 --> 00:00:28.050 I listened to Drinkin' by Joel Corey, MK, and 00:00:28.050 --> 00:00:30.890 Rita Ora. I don't know it, but I know I would 00:00:30.890 --> 00:00:33.509 like it. I know you would too, because it's Rita 00:00:33.509 --> 00:00:35.530 Ora just going, drinkin' all night, drinkin' 00:00:35.570 --> 00:00:38.009 all night. Yeah, that's beautiful. I love it. 00:00:38.009 --> 00:00:42.200 That's exactly what I wanted it to be. We have 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:47.280 a lot this week. Yeah, well, okay, so this episode, 00:00:47.299 --> 00:00:50.340 we're going to complain, and then we have a lot 00:00:50.340 --> 00:00:52.759 to talk about in the realm of reality television. 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:58.200 We've got to go through Secret Lives of Mormon 00:00:58.200 --> 00:01:01.920 Wives, Jesus, and talk about the Traitors cast, 00:01:02.140 --> 00:01:04.900 and then I also have to let out some opinions 00:01:04.900 --> 00:01:09.939 about Love Island. I must. I just, it's insanity. 00:01:11.600 --> 00:01:15.019 So do you want to start with complaining or do 00:01:15.019 --> 00:01:17.519 you want to start with your child or do you want 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:22.719 to start with Cupcake's new song? Let's start 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:26.659 with Cupcake's new song, shall we? Cupcake. Have 00:01:26.659 --> 00:01:33.980 you heard it yet? No. Is it great? Hang on. I 00:01:33.980 --> 00:01:36.819 don't. I'm going to play a little clip, but I 00:01:36.819 --> 00:01:39.569 don't want to get copyrighted in our first. 10 00:01:39.569 --> 00:01:42.569 episodes. You know what I mean? Emma's going 00:01:42.569 --> 00:01:44.310 to listen to it. We're going to we're going to 00:01:44.310 --> 00:01:47.209 reconvene. It's it's literally called one of 00:01:47.209 --> 00:01:49.450 the bedbugs ate my pussy. Hang on. Let me make 00:01:49.450 --> 00:01:51.329 sure I have this right. Is it about sleeping 00:01:51.329 --> 00:01:55.409 naked? No, no. That's what it gives. Has nothing 00:01:55.409 --> 00:01:57.209 to do with that. It's called one of my bedbugs 00:01:57.209 --> 00:02:00.129 ate my pussy. That's beautiful. And I'll listen 00:02:00.129 --> 00:02:08.110 to it and we'll be right back. So we're back. 00:02:08.620 --> 00:02:13.139 Emma just heard it. That was iconic. She is the 00:02:13.139 --> 00:02:15.819 voice of our generation. The beat is actually 00:02:15.819 --> 00:02:21.259 so good. Yeah, like if you could censor the lyrics, 00:02:21.300 --> 00:02:24.199 which you just could not possibly do to that 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:29.479 song, I would bump it in the car. But that can't 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:31.740 be censored. That can't be for public consumption. 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:36.159 I loved it. I loved it. I think the title makes 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:38.560 me think about sleeping naked. That's why I can't 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:42.979 sleep naked, because I feel like bugs and dust 00:02:42.979 --> 00:02:45.780 and lint are going to be all in my coochie. But 00:02:45.780 --> 00:02:52.159 that's not what it was about. No, but I want 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:56.439 to call out three of my favorite lyrics. Yeah. 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:01.319 L .A. fires wouldn't happen if a bitch just squirt. 00:03:02.519 --> 00:03:08.900 One, one. Sniffs, sniffs. He gonna miss this 00:03:08.900 --> 00:03:13.539 face like when Trump got shot. Wow. Two. Wow. 00:03:13.620 --> 00:03:17.439 You know, when she wrote that down, she said, 00:03:17.460 --> 00:03:19.479 mm -hmm, mm -hmm, mm -hmm, mm -hmm. She said, 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:22.580 this is, we're doing art. And then number three, 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:25.759 itsy bitsy spider crawled in my booty crack. 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:29.419 Down came the rain when I threw this coochie 00:03:29.419 --> 00:03:36.800 back. And here's the real tea of all of it. There 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:39.800 is one writer credit on this song. It is Elizabeth 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:41.960 Harris. Do you want to take a wild guess on what 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.860 Cupcake's real name is? Elizabeth Harris. Elizabeth 00:03:44.860 --> 00:03:49.000 Eden Harris. Oh, Cupcake, you've done it again. 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:51.500 I knew she wrote that song. You can just tell. 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:55.469 By herself. You can just tell by the vibes. She 00:03:55.469 --> 00:04:00.909 has a mind. I wish I wish I had a quarter of 00:04:00.909 --> 00:04:04.689 the creativity of the gumption that she does. 00:04:04.810 --> 00:04:07.729 Wow. Cupcake. We love you. She has a mind that 00:04:07.729 --> 00:04:12.090 we could never wish for. And that's that's that's 00:04:12.090 --> 00:04:16.360 that on that. Wow. If you haven't heard one of 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:19.600 my bed bugs ate my pussy, please tune in wherever 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:22.560 you stream your music. Please. I'll give you 00:04:22.560 --> 00:04:25.240 my password. How many monthly listeners does 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:27.860 Cupcake have? I don't. Does that tell you? 2 00:04:27.860 --> 00:04:33.579 .1 million. Shut your whore mouth. Oh, I'm not 00:04:33.579 --> 00:04:37.730 even surprised. That's amazing. Also, Deep Throat 00:04:37.730 --> 00:04:42.509 has 120 ,000. I'm sorry, 120 million streams. 00:04:43.350 --> 00:04:46.910 And I believe Travis to be at least 20 million 00:04:46.910 --> 00:04:50.350 of those. Do you have anything to complain about? 00:04:51.490 --> 00:04:56.970 So much, really. But I'm kind of at a like. I 00:04:56.970 --> 00:04:59.329 have so much to complain about, but all I've 00:04:59.329 --> 00:05:04.149 seen for like. two weeks are people in Gaza, 00:05:04.329 --> 00:05:08.310 people in Iran, and people in LA who are dealing 00:05:08.310 --> 00:05:12.350 with such strife that I feel like the most privileged 00:05:12.350 --> 00:05:18.470 woman in the world. So I'm going to forego my 00:05:18.470 --> 00:05:22.810 complaining in solidarity with immigrants and 00:05:22.810 --> 00:05:26.610 also the whole entirety of the Middle East, except 00:05:26.610 --> 00:05:29.879 for Israel, sorry. That's fair. I have two things 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:31.519 to complain about if you if you don't have any. 00:05:32.019 --> 00:05:36.899 Please do. OK, one. One is going to make me sound 00:05:36.899 --> 00:05:38.959 like an asshole now that you've taken a moral 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:42.519 stance. Oh, I just wanted to say something in 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:45.680 this episode about it. That's fair. Yeah, I don't. 00:05:46.339 --> 00:05:48.680 I still have a loss I've been complaining about 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:51.420 internally. Don't get me wrong. No, I feel like 00:05:51.420 --> 00:05:54.040 for me, I don't know that I have anything productive 00:05:54.040 --> 00:05:56.500 to add to the conversation. So I feel like I'm 00:05:56.500 --> 00:06:00.019 uncomfortable. unpacking some of those subjects 00:06:00.019 --> 00:06:03.019 because I don't know how to talk about it. Like 00:06:03.019 --> 00:06:05.000 someone who's very, very good at it is like Hassan 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:08.730 Biker, who. Under like, like fully understands 00:06:08.730 --> 00:06:12.389 like the facets that the implications of everything. 00:06:12.529 --> 00:06:15.470 And not to mention he's in California. So he's 00:06:15.470 --> 00:06:17.829 like, so he gets it. Yeah. He was at the protest. 00:06:17.889 --> 00:06:20.610 Right. But yeah, if you'd like more details about 00:06:20.610 --> 00:06:25.470 what's happening in Iran and Gaza or in LA, highly 00:06:25.470 --> 00:06:30.290 recommend listening to Austin Piker. Did you 00:06:30.290 --> 00:06:34.230 say Austin Piker? Hassan. Hassan. I thought H 00:06:34.230 --> 00:06:38.839 -A -S -S -A -N was Hassan. I don't know. Anyway, 00:06:39.060 --> 00:06:42.800 however you want to say it, listen to that hottie. 00:06:44.500 --> 00:06:47.139 Because there's two white people from Indiana, 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:49.399 we can only say so many, you know. That and like, 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:53.160 I fully like, I just feel like I don't have anything 00:06:53.160 --> 00:06:55.160 productive to add to the conversation. I'm just 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:57.480 going to be very real with you. Like I, my heart 00:06:57.480 --> 00:06:59.899 goes out to literally everyone that is impacted 00:06:59.899 --> 00:07:02.560 by literally all the bullshit going on in the 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.220 world right now because there is so much. my 00:07:06.220 --> 00:07:09.660 goal with this podcast is to bring some lightheartedness 00:07:09.660 --> 00:07:14.860 to everyone's day and especially in the deep 00:07:14.860 --> 00:07:17.740 dark times that we are currently exactly and 00:07:17.740 --> 00:07:20.420 like me talking about it is like it would be 00:07:20.420 --> 00:07:22.959 the most uneducated takes on it well that's what 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:25.100 i'm saying like if we really wanted to get into 00:07:25.100 --> 00:07:27.879 it i would sound so stupid compared to people 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:31.860 who have prepared research and pieces and maybe 00:07:31.860 --> 00:07:33.779 that's one of our let's research mamas like that 00:07:33.779 --> 00:07:36.769 is Yeah. Maybe that is something that I that 00:07:36.769 --> 00:07:39.410 I can unpack. It's just not. But that's not what 00:07:39.410 --> 00:07:41.870 we're doing today. No. I was just saying because 00:07:41.870 --> 00:07:44.290 the last week has been like particularly horrible. 00:07:44.430 --> 00:07:48.290 It has been horrific. Especially with the militarization 00:07:48.290 --> 00:07:54.050 of ICE in in California. Yeah. So anyways, what 00:07:54.050 --> 00:07:56.949 are we complaining about? So the thing that's 00:07:56.949 --> 00:07:59.250 going to make me sound like an asshole. I went 00:07:59.250 --> 00:08:01.350 to Swig. I went to the drive through of Swig 00:08:01.350 --> 00:08:06.819 on Washington Street. I get in the drive -thru. 00:08:06.860 --> 00:08:11.579 I am the second car in line, right? The car in 00:08:11.579 --> 00:08:14.439 front of me is a minivan with nine kids in it. 00:08:16.680 --> 00:08:23.060 And I want everyone to enjoy Swig. Swig, please 00:08:23.060 --> 00:08:25.399 sponsor the podcast. This is not an attack on 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:28.220 you. We love Swig. We love Swig. I'm drinking 00:08:28.220 --> 00:08:31.800 a Swig right now. That being said, there is a 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:33.899 minivan in front of me with a mom and, like, 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:38.419 nine kids. And the thing that is really triggering 00:08:38.419 --> 00:08:41.899 to me about every Swig except for the one in 00:08:41.899 --> 00:08:45.519 Greenwood is that you cannot go in and just pick 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:48.740 up your order. You cannot just pop your head 00:08:48.740 --> 00:08:50.899 in and be like, oh, it's on the counter waiting 00:08:50.899 --> 00:08:53.580 for me, whatever. You must wait in the drive 00:08:53.580 --> 00:08:55.860 -thru. They will not pull a car forward like 00:08:55.860 --> 00:08:57.980 you're at an Arby's. They will not allow it. 00:09:00.070 --> 00:09:02.830 And so I waited in this drive through and I am 00:09:02.830 --> 00:09:07.090 not exaggerating for 20 full minutes. Mind you, 00:09:07.110 --> 00:09:11.610 all they sell is little snacks and sodas like 00:09:11.610 --> 00:09:15.590 there had to be so many of them. But that's the 00:09:15.590 --> 00:09:19.490 thing they kept. They just kept handing. Soda 00:09:19.490 --> 00:09:21.870 is out, like out and out and out. And I was like, 00:09:21.889 --> 00:09:23.870 that's, I love that. Like there, but it's like, 00:09:23.929 --> 00:09:26.570 it was a million little ones. So like what, what 00:09:26.570 --> 00:09:28.230 it tells me is like the kids couldn't make up 00:09:28.230 --> 00:09:32.129 their minds. So it was, let's just, let's have 00:09:32.129 --> 00:09:34.029 a, let's have a smorgasbord. Let's have a fun 00:09:34.029 --> 00:09:35.610 time. And like, I see what the mom was trying 00:09:35.610 --> 00:09:37.230 to do. You should have ordered ahead. You should 00:09:37.230 --> 00:09:40.230 have said, I have a mobile order for Christine. 00:09:40.549 --> 00:09:43.629 I assume. I don't know. Yeah. And that's where 00:09:43.629 --> 00:09:50.090 we're at. I like, I get it. I want those kids 00:09:50.090 --> 00:09:52.210 to have a good time and have some yummy drinks. 00:09:52.289 --> 00:09:55.690 I do. But, like, now you're making the whole 00:09:55.690 --> 00:10:00.330 community pay for it. Yes. During Pride Month. 00:10:01.830 --> 00:10:04.509 We went to a water park last week. Oh, my God. 00:10:04.549 --> 00:10:07.490 Sorry. This is so off topic. We went to a water 00:10:07.490 --> 00:10:13.110 park last week. And it was a Thursday. We got 00:10:13.110 --> 00:10:19.419 there at 1 .30 p .m. Filled to the brim to the 00:10:19.419 --> 00:10:22.340 point where I was afraid we were going to have 00:10:22.340 --> 00:10:24.139 to wait outside because they were going to be 00:10:24.139 --> 00:10:26.820 at capacity. Packed, packed, packed, packed, 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:31.159 packed. It was insane. We saw Jack's kindergarten 00:10:31.159 --> 00:10:35.580 teacher there. Like, insane. Insane. And remind 00:10:35.580 --> 00:10:38.159 me to comment on that when we talk about Jack 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:41.480 again in a second. Okay. Perfect. So the second 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:45.590 thing I have to complain about is... A movement 00:10:45.590 --> 00:10:51.730 that's taking hold on TikTok that I want to start 00:10:51.730 --> 00:10:56.470 off by saying I don't I don't want to attack 00:10:56.470 --> 00:10:59.730 any one specific person, anyone, any specific 00:10:59.730 --> 00:11:02.529 group of people. But there is this there is a 00:11:02.529 --> 00:11:05.610 group of people on TikTok called the 4 a .m. 00:11:05.610 --> 00:11:09.190 Club. This is rooted in a phenomenon that occurred 00:11:09.190 --> 00:11:15.139 on November. 6th of 2024 so the night after or 00:11:15.139 --> 00:11:18.059 like the the the morning hours after election 00:11:18.059 --> 00:11:22.779 night right so this whole phenomenon stems from 00:11:22.779 --> 00:11:25.940 a woman waking up at four o 'clock in the morning 00:11:25.940 --> 00:11:31.720 and we all just knew in that moment that donald 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.629 trump won the election and Millions of people 00:11:35.629 --> 00:11:38.090 on TikTok were commenting saying I also woke 00:11:38.090 --> 00:11:40.809 up. I've heard about this, not on TikTok, like 00:11:40.809 --> 00:11:43.610 on Twitter of everyone saying they woke up that 00:11:43.610 --> 00:11:47.269 night. I I also woke up that night. I very vividly 00:11:47.269 --> 00:11:49.110 remember waking up and I told you about this. 00:11:49.169 --> 00:11:53.769 I woke up and I said, oh, God. And I think. Is 00:11:53.769 --> 00:11:57.769 it not an anxiety thing? I think it is. I'm just 00:11:57.769 --> 00:12:04.860 guessing here. But anyway. So. The the creator 00:12:04.860 --> 00:12:11.340 founder of the 4 a .m. club is a psychic. And 00:12:11.340 --> 00:12:19.059 she's been speaking to, I guess, ghosts. I don't 00:12:19.059 --> 00:12:21.500 I don't know. I don't know. I'm not I'm not attacking. 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:24.639 I don't understand spirituality. This is something 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:28.190 I need to be very clear about. she's speaking 00:12:28.190 --> 00:12:31.149 to who or whatever she's speaking to. And they're 00:12:31.149 --> 00:12:36.009 telling her about what's really going on in the 00:12:36.009 --> 00:12:40.269 world. Like in, in the beginning, what it was 00:12:40.269 --> 00:12:43.309 was Kamala Harris really won. The election is 00:12:43.309 --> 00:12:47.950 what the, what we were being sold. Oh, this was 00:12:47.950 --> 00:12:51.210 that whole thing where they were like, I'm not 00:12:51.210 --> 00:12:54.710 going to believe it. I know that she won. Okay. 00:12:54.850 --> 00:13:00.460 Yeah. Yes, it's that. And it is stemmed into 00:13:00.460 --> 00:13:04.519 a TikTok that I sent Emma earlier with with the 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:10.600 text Jesus Christ in all caps, where it's a woman 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:13.779 who is a member of the 4 a .m. club. And I won't 00:13:13.779 --> 00:13:19.200 take this away from anyone. If you want to. Believe 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:20.700 whatever you want to believe. I won't take that 00:13:20.700 --> 00:13:22.659 away from you. But what what scares me about 00:13:22.659 --> 00:13:24.700 the 4 a .m. club is that it's giving people false 00:13:24.700 --> 00:13:28.299 hope. And it's exactly what I believe MAGA was 00:13:28.299 --> 00:13:31.720 doing in 2020. It is identical to what they were 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:38.919 doing. And. And so this tick tock goes on to 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.440 talk about how we're in an alternate timeline. 00:13:42.659 --> 00:13:47.279 We. Isn't that kind of the whole point of. alternate 00:13:47.279 --> 00:13:49.740 timelines in general aren't you always in an 00:13:49.740 --> 00:13:52.419 alternate timeline because there are like millions 00:13:52.419 --> 00:13:55.080 of different possible timelines anyway maybe 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:58.399 i don't know that's a whole theory that i've 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:00.600 gotten into we can talk about it in another episode 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:04.259 but If you believe in multiple timelines, then 00:14:04.259 --> 00:14:06.460 you are always in an alternate timeline. You're 00:14:06.460 --> 00:14:09.059 in an alternate timeline than if you chose something 00:14:09.059 --> 00:14:10.740 different for breakfast this morning. But are 00:14:10.740 --> 00:14:12.559 you in an alternate timeline or are you just 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:14.820 existing and then the timelines existing around 00:14:14.820 --> 00:14:16.759 you? I don't under, this is a thing that I cannot 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:19.320 understand. My little Kentucky brain cannot understand. 00:14:19.379 --> 00:14:21.740 See, that's an interesting question because I 00:14:21.740 --> 00:14:25.659 always interpreted it as there are multiple dimensions 00:14:25.659 --> 00:14:28.419 in which I exist and I'm doing different things 00:14:28.419 --> 00:14:32.769 in all of them. Does that make sense? I won't 00:14:32.769 --> 00:14:34.529 take that away from you, but I don't understand 00:14:34.529 --> 00:14:39.070 that. I hear you. I hear I can conceptualize 00:14:39.070 --> 00:14:42.309 what you're saying. I do not understand it. It 00:14:42.309 --> 00:14:44.690 goes into the whole thing of like multiple universes. 00:14:44.929 --> 00:14:47.330 And maybe maybe they're out there. We should 00:14:47.330 --> 00:14:50.529 talk about that in a things we don't understand 00:14:50.529 --> 00:14:53.049 episode. We'll get into that. I love that string 00:14:53.049 --> 00:14:55.309 theory and multiple universes and all of that. 00:14:55.309 --> 00:14:58.769 That would be fun. But this one is saying that. 00:14:59.679 --> 00:15:03.240 We're in an alternate timeline in which Donald 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:06.399 Trump won the election. And we are our job as 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:09.379 the 4 a .m. club is to collapse this timeline 00:15:09.379 --> 00:15:13.919 into the right timeline. And now we're verging 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.559 into the territory of psychosis. I fear like 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:19.440 this is this is what I don't understand. And 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.440 this is what I'm complaining about is why can 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.700 like I we're I'm going to go on record. I do 00:15:26.700 --> 00:15:29.809 not like. The presidency, I do not like the administration. 00:15:30.029 --> 00:15:33.110 I do not like anything about it. I have not liked 00:15:33.110 --> 00:15:36.389 anything since November of 2024. I've been mad 00:15:36.389 --> 00:15:38.690 about it. I would argue I haven't been happy 00:15:38.690 --> 00:15:46.850 since November of 2016. Fair. But, like, we didn't 00:15:46.850 --> 00:15:52.909 do this in 2016. I didn't see any of the mentally 00:15:52.909 --> 00:15:58.399 ill or any of the clairvoyance. telling us that 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:02.899 well if we just crush this timeline then we'll 00:16:02.899 --> 00:16:05.919 go to an alternate time then what what then what 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:09.720 diva like i at some point you just have to take 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:12.960 the loss and like almost it kind of sounds like 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:15.279 they need a reality check of like yes it's horrible 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:19.600 and yes it's scary and all of these things but 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:23.360 donald trump is the president right and it For 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:26.899 what it's worth, there's nothing you as an individual 00:16:26.899 --> 00:16:30.460 can do to change it. No. The only thing you could 00:16:30.460 --> 00:16:33.299 do is get out and vote next time, Diva. No. And 00:16:33.299 --> 00:16:34.940 here's the God's honest truth. You know, there 00:16:34.940 --> 00:16:38.980 are these like there there's the pro V &V lawsuit 00:16:38.980 --> 00:16:41.159 going on right now where if there is any merit 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:44.379 to it, I am thrilled and excited. That's not 00:16:44.379 --> 00:16:48.360 the same as destroying a timeline and jumping 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:51.340 to an alternate reality in which Kamala Harris 00:16:51.340 --> 00:16:54.419 won. It's. proving what happened in this timeline 00:16:54.419 --> 00:16:56.919 in this universe and that's and that's the thing 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:01.179 is we're talking about psychosis we're talking 00:17:01.179 --> 00:17:04.920 about like crazy shit and i'm just like we we 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.440 have to live in reality babe we gotta we gotta 00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:09.660 figure it out together are you ready for reality 00:17:09.660 --> 00:17:15.200 roundup oh i'm so ready so we've got the traitor 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.079 season forecast on our list we've got the first 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.319 two episodes of the second season of secret lives 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:21.950 and mormon wives and then you said you had I 00:17:21.950 --> 00:17:25.970 have something to say about Love Island. Fun 00:17:25.970 --> 00:17:28.390 fact, I've only ever watched like half of an 00:17:28.390 --> 00:17:30.549 episode of Love Island. I don't think you would 00:17:30.549 --> 00:17:32.990 be into it. And honestly, I just wasn't going 00:17:32.990 --> 00:17:35.829 to ever comment on it. No, I want you to comment 00:17:35.829 --> 00:17:39.450 on it. Okay. So what you need to know is that 00:17:39.450 --> 00:17:44.579 the last season of Love Island was. So iconic. 00:17:44.740 --> 00:17:47.799 Like I would, it was probably the biggest season 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:50.920 to ever occur of Love Island, including in the 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:56.619 UK. Like it was huge. And we got like celebrities 00:17:56.619 --> 00:17:59.819 out of it. Like people who now have millions 00:17:59.819 --> 00:18:01.759 of followers, they're getting brand deals, they're 00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:03.799 doing all these things. Right. And they're getting 00:18:03.799 --> 00:18:06.319 their own spinoff show, in fact, because everyone 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:10.849 loves that cast so much. Love that. Yeah. And 00:18:10.849 --> 00:18:12.970 good for them. They were all hot. They all had 00:18:12.970 --> 00:18:15.450 very distinctive personalities and they all you 00:18:15.450 --> 00:18:17.309 could tell they got on really well. Like they 00:18:17.309 --> 00:18:20.589 all really liked each other. And it was cool 00:18:20.589 --> 00:18:23.529 because it was like you were seeing friendships 00:18:23.529 --> 00:18:26.509 blossom as well as like these romantic relationships. 00:18:26.589 --> 00:18:29.470 Oh, I love that. It was beautiful. Yeah. It has 00:18:29.470 --> 00:18:33.910 caused a rift in Love Island, though, because 00:18:33.910 --> 00:18:38.380 now. We have this problem with the girls where 00:18:38.380 --> 00:18:43.019 the whole point of the show, right, is to go 00:18:43.019 --> 00:18:49.619 date a bunch of people and, like, be hot, right? 00:18:50.460 --> 00:18:54.019 What a dream. What an absolute dream. That's 00:18:54.019 --> 00:18:56.640 really the only rule of the show. Be hot and 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.440 date multiple people, okay? And it's turned into 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:07.279 this thing where... If you go after someone's 00:19:07.279 --> 00:19:13.559 man, you're not a girl's girl. Jesus Christ. 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:17.740 As if you're not on love fucking island. But 00:19:17.740 --> 00:19:20.140 that's the point of the show, though, Diva. I 00:19:20.140 --> 00:19:22.759 know. And do you actually think let me let me 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:24.599 ask you this, because from the half of an episode 00:19:24.599 --> 00:19:28.079 I've watched, I got the entire vibe. Do you actually 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:31.680 think when you leave Casa Amor or whatever the 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:35.009 fuck it's called that. You're leaving with your 00:19:35.009 --> 00:19:37.670 fucking husband or your wife. Do you actually 00:19:37.670 --> 00:19:41.630 believe that? It's happened so few times. Like, 00:19:41.710 --> 00:19:44.329 OK, that's the other thing about last season 00:19:44.329 --> 00:19:47.769 is that three of the couples, the big three that 00:19:47.769 --> 00:19:49.509 everyone was obsessed with, they're still together 00:19:49.509 --> 00:19:52.710 a year later. That is shocking to me. And you 00:19:52.710 --> 00:19:54.430 could have you could have said, is this true 00:19:54.430 --> 00:19:55.970 or false? And I would have told you that is an 00:19:55.970 --> 00:20:00.730 abject lie. Right. But last season was such an 00:20:00.730 --> 00:20:03.539 independent. It was so different from anything 00:20:03.539 --> 00:20:06.119 we've ever seen on Love Island. And so people. 00:20:07.180 --> 00:20:10.039 But it was it was such a huge draw that that 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:13.279 was like people's first experience of Love Island. 00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:16.839 And so now they're like, oh, they're going to 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.660 get married. Oh, OK. OK, I see what you're saying. 00:20:20.859 --> 00:20:23.799 And listen, I do think the girls should have 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:27.640 the other girls backs in the sense of like they 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:30.460 should be there for them when they're upset and 00:20:30.460 --> 00:20:33.579 they should, you know. That's how you're a girl's 00:20:33.579 --> 00:20:37.220 girl. Be friends. I just I have a huge problem 00:20:37.220 --> 00:20:38.900 with this season and I don't even want to say 00:20:38.900 --> 00:20:40.720 her name because she's been getting so much hate 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:44.279 online. It's the one who's a mother. She's saying. 00:20:45.609 --> 00:20:48.869 One of them is not a girl's girl because of a 00:20:48.869 --> 00:20:54.069 vote that America had. Anyone in America was 00:20:54.069 --> 00:20:56.990 voting for who this girl should pair up with. 00:20:57.190 --> 00:21:03.089 And we all chose the mom's man, right? Because 00:21:03.089 --> 00:21:05.769 they've been together since the beginning and 00:21:05.769 --> 00:21:08.410 they haven't experienced anyone else. And you 00:21:08.410 --> 00:21:12.230 could tell his name is Jeremiah was into this 00:21:12.230 --> 00:21:17.579 new girl. OK, so the next morning they get a 00:21:17.579 --> 00:21:20.980 text at like 5 a .m. All the new couples are 00:21:20.980 --> 00:21:24.859 going on a date, blah, blah, blah, blah. This 00:21:24.859 --> 00:21:28.240 girl has done nothing wrong to the mom, right? 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:31.380 Nothing wrong to her. And she goes on this tirade 00:21:31.380 --> 00:21:34.900 about. Iris isn't a girl's girl. You can just 00:21:34.900 --> 00:21:36.940 tell she's holding stuff back, blah, blah, blah, 00:21:36.940 --> 00:21:40.700 blah. Oh, Jesus Christ. We have lost the plot 00:21:40.700 --> 00:21:43.019 of Love Island, and that is all I really wanted 00:21:43.019 --> 00:21:46.059 to say about it. I think people have really forgotten 00:21:46.059 --> 00:21:49.779 what the show is about. It's about being hot 00:21:49.779 --> 00:21:52.039 and dating multiple people. You're not finding 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:54.680 your kid's stepdad there. No. You're not finding 00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:56.839 your future husband there. I get that you're 00:21:56.839 --> 00:22:00.900 there to find love, whatever. Love in the sense 00:22:00.900 --> 00:22:03.940 of dating for six months, perhaps. Love in the 00:22:03.940 --> 00:22:06.880 sense of getting your puss ate. Right. In front 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:08.799 of everyone else because you all share a bedroom. 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:11.859 That's what you're there for. And I want you 00:22:11.859 --> 00:22:15.559 to do that. I want to see it. That's why I watch. 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:19.460 I don't watch to see you sneaking around listening 00:22:19.460 --> 00:22:22.579 to the boys' conversations. I don't watch it. 00:22:23.319 --> 00:22:26.099 So that I can see how strong your connection 00:22:26.099 --> 00:22:29.400 is with the other girls. I would argue that I 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:30.740 don't give a fuck how strong your connection 00:22:30.740 --> 00:22:35.779 is. No. God. Like that's just a God's honest 00:22:35.779 --> 00:22:38.079 truth, Eva. Every single challenge they have 00:22:38.079 --> 00:22:41.740 in the whole show, they're all kissing each other. 00:22:41.779 --> 00:22:45.059 That's like the premise of every single challenge 00:22:45.059 --> 00:22:47.619 that they have is that they all make out with 00:22:47.619 --> 00:22:51.319 each other. I love that. Like, that's what you're 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.319 there for. I don't understand how you can be 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:55.500 possessive and how you can be, like, catty. It's 00:22:55.500 --> 00:22:58.940 my freshman year at IU. Like, have a good summer, 00:22:59.140 --> 00:23:04.220 mama. Ugh. Anyway. Anyway. Let's get into Traitors. 00:23:04.259 --> 00:23:07.299 I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I can't wait 00:23:07.299 --> 00:23:11.819 for this. So, Traitors season four is confirmed. 00:23:12.059 --> 00:23:15.920 There's not a date yet for the premiere, but 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:20.509 we have the cast. And there are some huge highlights. 00:23:21.250 --> 00:23:22.950 There are some highlights. And then there are 00:23:22.950 --> 00:23:26.210 some names that I don't know, because to be fair, 00:23:26.269 --> 00:23:28.950 like, I think there are different sects of reality 00:23:28.950 --> 00:23:32.230 TV watching. And some of them I just don't watch. 00:23:32.450 --> 00:23:36.769 But Candace Dillard Bassett. They did her dirty 00:23:36.769 --> 00:23:38.589 with this picture. I don't think this is a great 00:23:38.589 --> 00:23:41.509 picture. No, but you know, she's going to eat 00:23:41.509 --> 00:23:44.289 so hard on that show. The aesthetics of all of 00:23:44.289 --> 00:23:47.269 it. I can't wait. And the thing about Candace 00:23:47.269 --> 00:23:52.509 is she is smart. Like she is intelligent and 00:23:52.509 --> 00:23:55.289 she is going to go the fuck in on these people 00:23:55.289 --> 00:23:57.509 and like make them regret the day they were born. 00:23:57.609 --> 00:24:01.210 And she's not scared of any fucking body at all. 00:24:01.269 --> 00:24:04.069 Like she will say what she thinks, period. She 00:24:04.069 --> 00:24:06.450 does not care. I feel like she's almost going 00:24:06.450 --> 00:24:09.869 to bring the energy that Bob the Drag Queen brought. 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.960 Which is funny because Monet X Strange is also 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.039 on this list. Right, which is who I don't care 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.779 about. We'll get there, we'll get there. I'm 00:24:18.779 --> 00:24:22.099 so excited for Candace. That's like a huge highlight 00:24:22.099 --> 00:24:25.279 for me. That's a win for me. Caroline Stanbury. 00:24:25.859 --> 00:24:28.119 Yeah, I didn't really know her because I didn't 00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:31.900 watch Housewives of Dubai. So before Housewives 00:24:31.900 --> 00:24:36.460 of Dubai, Caroline Stanbury was on a show on 00:24:36.460 --> 00:24:39.980 Bravo called Ladies of London. Which is. Oh, 00:24:40.019 --> 00:24:42.640 right. Yeah. You talk to me about that. An incredible, 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:47.980 incredible sociology experiment of dropping in 00:24:47.980 --> 00:24:50.339 women from the United States into London society. 00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:54.140 We're like. there's like real rules to London 00:24:54.140 --> 00:24:56.200 society and like watching these people interact 00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:58.960 was just a fucking field day. They have a type 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:03.119 of old money that doesn't exist in America. Like, 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:05.759 right. Cause it like literally goes back farther 00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:11.099 than America. Yeah. Like, but Caroline Stanberry 00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:15.779 is part of that old money thing. Like she has 00:25:15.779 --> 00:25:18.880 money. I mean, you live in Dubai. Yeah. Right. 00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:22.230 Um, So I'm very excited for Caroline Stanberry. 00:25:22.349 --> 00:25:26.970 And she is someone who I'm excited to see people 00:25:26.970 --> 00:25:29.009 attack her almost and not because I want her 00:25:29.009 --> 00:25:31.289 to get attacked, but because when she was on 00:25:31.289 --> 00:25:33.829 Ladies of London and it was the same way on Real 00:25:33.829 --> 00:25:38.910 Housewives of Dubai, she was unshakable, like 00:25:38.910 --> 00:25:41.130 similarly to the way Candace is like where it's 00:25:41.130 --> 00:25:45.880 like you you can't tell her shit. it's so good 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.420 i love that i hope they're best friends i hope 00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:50.259 so too but and that's the thing is like what 00:25:50.259 --> 00:25:52.740 tends to happen on traitors what i've noticed 00:25:52.740 --> 00:25:56.380 is the housewives tend to pair off yeah even 00:25:56.380 --> 00:25:58.160 when they're not from the same cities they do 00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:01.200 even if they don't like each other they do tend 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:03.740 to gravitate towards one another yeah they are 00:26:03.740 --> 00:26:06.819 like a very different breed than like someone 00:26:06.819 --> 00:26:09.160 from survivor big brother you know what i mean 00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:13.690 um I'm excited to see Dorinda back. Dorinda Medley. 00:26:13.950 --> 00:26:17.589 I am so excited to see Dorinda back. She left 00:26:17.589 --> 00:26:20.170 far too soon. She was the first elimination. 00:26:20.509 --> 00:26:24.369 Yeah. And I think they knew when she was killed 00:26:24.369 --> 00:26:27.210 first. She was coming back. That she needed to 00:26:27.210 --> 00:26:29.349 come back because she didn't really get her moment. 00:26:29.450 --> 00:26:33.190 And like she she was still like such a strong 00:26:33.190 --> 00:26:35.890 personality in the one episode she was in. Like 00:26:35.890 --> 00:26:38.819 she was still like. I'm sure people's favorites 00:26:38.819 --> 00:26:43.779 like starting off. The thing about Dorinda, you 00:26:43.779 --> 00:26:46.460 never you have you haven't seen her on Real Housewives 00:26:46.460 --> 00:26:50.779 of New York. She comes in the season that Bethany 00:26:50.779 --> 00:26:56.079 comes back. Oh, and the way that she holds up 00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:03.970 like there she she does have seasons where. she 00:27:03.970 --> 00:27:06.690 doesn't come off shining like the star that she 00:27:06.690 --> 00:27:09.869 is which it happens it happens to every housewife 00:27:09.869 --> 00:27:14.789 yeah what she does is she likes two or three 00:27:14.789 --> 00:27:16.630 dirty martinis and this is one of my favorite 00:27:16.630 --> 00:27:18.690 things about her I like if Dorinda if you ever 00:27:18.690 --> 00:27:21.710 hear this just know that like I see the relationship 00:27:21.710 --> 00:27:25.009 you have with your daughter Hannah and all I 00:27:25.009 --> 00:27:27.710 want is a relationship like that with a mother 00:27:27.710 --> 00:27:31.809 who's not my mother Never any shade towards you, 00:27:31.809 --> 00:27:34.369 Dorinda. I love Dorinda. Dorinda can do the way 00:27:34.369 --> 00:27:36.569 Bethany can do no wrong. And as far as I'm concerned, 00:27:36.690 --> 00:27:39.269 Dorinda can also do no wrong. She just seems 00:27:39.269 --> 00:27:41.769 like such a sweetie, too. She really, really, 00:27:41.809 --> 00:27:43.750 really is. She has such a big, strong personality. 00:27:43.750 --> 00:27:46.750 But you can tell, like, if someone needs her, 00:27:46.769 --> 00:27:49.269 she's there. You know what I mean? Also, there's 00:27:49.269 --> 00:27:52.009 no bullshit. Yeah. I'm excited to see her and 00:27:52.009 --> 00:27:56.589 Candace interact. I think they would be thick 00:27:56.589 --> 00:28:00.230 as thieves or really butt. I think they're going 00:28:00.230 --> 00:28:03.029 to be really good friends. I think who Dorinda 00:28:03.029 --> 00:28:04.589 is going to have a hard time with is Caroline 00:28:04.589 --> 00:28:07.109 Stanbury because Dorinda lived in London for 00:28:07.109 --> 00:28:12.470 several years. And I think that there's a clashing 00:28:12.470 --> 00:28:13.970 thing that's going to happen there. A hundred 00:28:13.970 --> 00:28:16.569 percent. I see that. I don't know who Eric Nam 00:28:16.569 --> 00:28:18.170 is. I don't know who he is. I'm sure he's going 00:28:18.170 --> 00:28:20.130 to be great. I don't know this Big Brother guy. 00:28:20.609 --> 00:28:24.970 Ian Terry. Johnny Weir. I'm excited for Johnny 00:28:24.970 --> 00:28:30.269 Weir. I love him. I think he's so cool and so 00:28:30.269 --> 00:28:33.210 funny, but I haven't seen him that much. Like, 00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:35.430 I haven't seen that much of him, so I'm excited 00:28:35.430 --> 00:28:37.930 to see what he's like in a shared house like 00:28:37.930 --> 00:28:42.259 that. My exposure to him has been... through 00:28:42.259 --> 00:28:45.559 I oh god well what's the show where the Project 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:49.079 Runway yeah he came on Project Runway as a guest 00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.839 judge and he was hysterical he's so funny he's 00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.819 very funny yeah I I think he'll be like class 00:28:56.819 --> 00:29:00.200 clown kind of light in the mood yes Kristen Kish 00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:07.170 I am familiar with I respect her as a chef and 00:29:07.170 --> 00:29:10.250 personality but i don't know how her personality 00:29:10.250 --> 00:29:15.750 is gonna do on traitor she's like a very no bullshit 00:29:15.750 --> 00:29:18.390 yeah she's like always been a host and stuff 00:29:18.390 --> 00:29:20.670 like that so i've never seen her like participating 00:29:20.670 --> 00:29:23.730 in something like i've oh you've seen her like 00:29:23.730 --> 00:29:25.549 running the show you've never seen her being 00:29:25.549 --> 00:29:28.150 in the show right got it okay so i don't know 00:29:28.150 --> 00:29:31.660 she seems to like Just to me off of what I've 00:29:31.660 --> 00:29:34.539 seen, she seems to have like a very dominant 00:29:34.539 --> 00:29:37.380 personality. And I don't know. Oh, I think that'll 00:29:37.380 --> 00:29:39.400 be good. Yeah. I don't really know how that's 00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.740 going to play out. However, she's very hot. She's 00:29:42.740 --> 00:29:46.920 actually gorgeous. Like. Yeah. And there's like 00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:50.650 a. Like a badass look about her that I'm very 00:29:50.650 --> 00:29:53.569 into. I like that. I like it. She always has 00:29:53.569 --> 00:29:55.890 like this short hair tatted up thing going on. 00:29:55.910 --> 00:29:58.470 I love a lady with short hair. I think it is 00:29:58.470 --> 00:30:01.069 so high. Yeah. There's just like, oh, I love 00:30:01.069 --> 00:30:04.450 it. She tends to wear kind of like a sporty suit 00:30:04.450 --> 00:30:09.650 situation. Love that. Yeah. Okay. Who's next? 00:30:10.109 --> 00:30:14.750 Survivor or not a survivor? Rob Sesternino. i'm 00:30:14.750 --> 00:30:16.930 i'm gonna be you know what i'm gonna say yeah 00:30:16.930 --> 00:30:21.990 yeah not no to this man i'm into it uh lisa rena 00:30:21.990 --> 00:30:26.950 i can't wait for her to get too drunk in the 00:30:26.950 --> 00:30:30.509 trader's house and show that monkey i this is 00:30:30.509 --> 00:30:32.829 something that the traders is i would argue this 00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:34.490 is something traders has needed since season 00:30:34.490 --> 00:30:39.359 one because lisa rena oh god so You know, her 00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:41.259 whole backstory where like she started on like 00:30:41.259 --> 00:30:44.400 Days of Our Lives or like one of the one of the 00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:48.400 soap operas on NBC. And so she's been in that 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.000 world since the 90s. I was going to say, yeah. 00:30:52.180 --> 00:30:58.119 And she is good at at reality television. I've 00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:01.779 I want to say she was on like Celebrity Celebrity 00:31:01.779 --> 00:31:05.480 Big Brother and like was it. I don't know what 00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:07.960 she. She did one of these competition shows and 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.160 she was very, very good at it. I can see that 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:12.960 for her because she knows how to play the game. 00:31:13.019 --> 00:31:17.299 She's been in the the industry for long enough 00:31:17.299 --> 00:31:19.180 that like she knows how to play the game. But 00:31:19.180 --> 00:31:23.799 also she is so fun. She is fun and she's funny. 00:31:24.220 --> 00:31:29.259 She is genuinely hysterical. I'm really excited 00:31:29.259 --> 00:31:33.400 to see her. Mark Ballas, you also know what I'm 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:38.000 going to say. Yeah. Not no to this man. I'm not 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.380 a Dancing with the Stars girl. I watch it if 00:31:40.380 --> 00:31:42.099 there are like celebrities on there that are 00:31:42.099 --> 00:31:44.400 interesting to me, but that's it. And I don't, 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.160 I wouldn't say I watch it. I watch clips of it. 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:51.539 I think he's hot. Maura Higgins. Okay. Obviously 00:31:51.539 --> 00:31:53.119 you're not going to know who Maura Higgins is. 00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.759 She doesn't have like. She's gorgeous. Oh my 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:01.440 God. She is stunning. She is beautiful. I feel 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:03.900 like she could really be a dark horse because 00:32:03.900 --> 00:32:06.720 she tends to like, she's super fun and flirty 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.059 and fresh, but she tends to like keep to herself 00:32:09.059 --> 00:32:12.119 a little bit compared to the other people I'm 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:14.759 seeing on this cast. It's hard when you have 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.220 a ton of big personalities to like fit in, I 00:32:17.220 --> 00:32:20.019 feel like. Yeah. Because there's a lot of, like 00:32:20.019 --> 00:32:25.059 a ton of personality. She would absolutely eat 00:32:25.059 --> 00:32:29.440 as a traitor. She would eat because I think she 00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:33.019 would know how to like fly under the radar. Yes. 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.359 If you hear a harmonica, that's just our soundtrack 00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:39.559 today. Jack's playing his little harmonica. It's 00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:41.099 perfect. I don't think they'll be able to hear 00:32:41.099 --> 00:32:44.759 it. But yeah, I love Maura Higgins. I think she's 00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.019 funny. I think she's really cool. I do think 00:32:47.019 --> 00:32:49.160 she's more reserved than some of the other people 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:53.630 in this cast. Yeah. So. I don't know. I think 00:32:53.630 --> 00:32:55.349 she would do a really good job as a traitor. 00:32:55.490 --> 00:32:57.730 If I were a producer, I would be making her a 00:32:57.730 --> 00:33:03.589 traitor. Michael Rapaport can go to hell. I have 00:33:03.589 --> 00:33:06.130 a feeling he will be one of the early ones to 00:33:06.130 --> 00:33:08.490 go. Oh, yeah. He's going to get cut early. And 00:33:08.490 --> 00:33:10.069 I don't think any of these other people are going 00:33:10.069 --> 00:33:14.670 to like him. No, no, no, no. Anyway. Yeah. Monet 00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:21.309 exchange. Yeah. OK. Here's the thing. I don't 00:33:21.309 --> 00:33:24.890 know how to say this in any other way. I, I don't 00:33:24.890 --> 00:33:27.450 know. I don't understand her personality without 00:33:27.450 --> 00:33:31.089 Bob the drag queen. Yeah. So I was going to say, 00:33:31.130 --> 00:33:34.150 it might be interesting to see her separated 00:33:34.150 --> 00:33:37.730 from Bob the drag queen. Like maybe she'll shine 00:33:37.730 --> 00:33:40.329 in her own individual way. I just don't really 00:33:40.329 --> 00:33:43.250 know what to expect. Yeah. And like, and maybe 00:33:43.250 --> 00:33:46.250 it's not that I don't like her. I think that 00:33:46.250 --> 00:33:51.710 she's a very talented queen. Yeah. I only know 00:33:51.710 --> 00:33:54.710 her like the only frame of reference I have is 00:33:54.710 --> 00:33:57.829 sibling rivalry with Bob, the drag queen of Money 00:33:57.829 --> 00:34:00.950 Exchange and RuPaul's Drag Race. Like that's 00:34:00.950 --> 00:34:03.150 that's the extent of my frame of reference. I've 00:34:03.150 --> 00:34:05.890 only seen her on RuPaul and like I don't even 00:34:05.890 --> 00:34:09.230 really like recall the sponges. That's that's 00:34:09.230 --> 00:34:11.210 what I that's what I remember about Money Exchange 00:34:11.210 --> 00:34:13.710 is the sponges. And I just I mean, I don't know. 00:34:13.769 --> 00:34:15.789 Maybe she'll be great, but I don't really know 00:34:15.789 --> 00:34:18.969 what to expect from her. I, again, Natalie Anderson. 00:34:19.130 --> 00:34:21.429 I don't watch. I don't know who that is. Portia 00:34:21.429 --> 00:34:25.030 Williams. Portia Williams. Ah, stunning, beautiful 00:34:25.030 --> 00:34:27.550 queen. Let me tell you about Portia Williams. 00:34:27.690 --> 00:34:29.590 OK, so this is a couple of things about Portia. 00:34:31.150 --> 00:34:36.510 I have loved her from day one on Real Housewives 00:34:36.510 --> 00:34:41.769 of Atlanta. She came on and she was. I think 00:34:41.769 --> 00:34:43.369 she was playing a role because she was married 00:34:43.369 --> 00:34:48.429 to Cordell. Cordell Williams. Oh, and she was 00:34:48.429 --> 00:34:51.309 playing the role of like ditzy housewife. And 00:34:51.309 --> 00:34:56.130 this this clip has floated around on TikTok for 00:34:56.130 --> 00:35:00.929 years where she didn't. I don't believe she didn't 00:35:00.929 --> 00:35:04.369 understand the Underground Railroad, but she 00:35:04.369 --> 00:35:07.869 pretends to think that it was an actual an actual 00:35:07.869 --> 00:35:12.980 train. Yeah, I've seen that. But like something 00:35:12.980 --> 00:35:14.820 you need to understand about Portia Williams 00:35:14.820 --> 00:35:18.239 is she is a walking comedy show. Like she is 00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:22.719 hysterical. She's gorgeous. One of the most beautiful 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.960 women I've ever seen in my life. I cannot wait 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:27.800 to see her interact with Candace because they 00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:29.420 are either going to be best friends or they are 00:35:29.420 --> 00:35:31.909 going to be. at each other's throats immediately 00:35:31.909 --> 00:35:36.550 and i cannot wait to see it so i've only i've 00:35:36.550 --> 00:35:39.030 watched real housewives of atlanta in like bits 00:35:39.030 --> 00:35:42.530 and pieces it's not something where like potomac 00:35:42.530 --> 00:35:45.650 i've watched every single episode in order i've 00:35:45.650 --> 00:35:48.150 just like i used to watch atlanta when it was 00:35:48.150 --> 00:35:51.489 on because i loved the whole cast like that wow 00:35:51.489 --> 00:35:57.840 stunning and funny cast in atlanta um Everything 00:35:57.840 --> 00:35:59.380 I've ever seen of Portia has been hilarious. 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:05.219 She is hilarious. So funny. So funny. But I also 00:36:05.219 --> 00:36:07.579 think Candace is very funny, so it might be one 00:36:07.579 --> 00:36:10.239 of those things where they're so similar that 00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:13.000 they just don't get along. Because I think that 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:16.760 happens a lot, especially in real life. People 00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:21.610 who are too similar... only see the differences 00:36:21.610 --> 00:36:23.969 in each other and so they just clash and clash 00:36:23.969 --> 00:36:27.110 and clash um but i am excited to see her i'm 00:36:27.110 --> 00:36:29.730 really excited i love i'm i love portia williams 00:36:29.730 --> 00:36:32.369 i think she is just the greatest i love her i 00:36:32.369 --> 00:36:34.090 love her i love her i think she is going to be 00:36:34.090 --> 00:36:37.610 a shining diamond in that house i also think 00:36:37.610 --> 00:36:39.829 she can bring the drama because she's a little 00:36:39.829 --> 00:36:44.530 messy very messy Rob Roush. I don't know who 00:36:44.530 --> 00:36:47.469 that is. I love Rob. Okay, he was from last season 00:36:47.469 --> 00:36:49.730 of Love Island that I just talked about was like 00:36:49.730 --> 00:36:52.269 a huge big deal. He's not one of the ones that 00:36:52.269 --> 00:36:54.670 ended up in a couple, but people do love him. 00:36:54.730 --> 00:36:57.250 He's a Louisiana boy. If he would like to end 00:36:57.250 --> 00:37:02.170 up in a couple, I am single. He is cute and he's 00:37:02.170 --> 00:37:06.639 tall and he's tattooed. Perfect. He's checking 00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:09.539 every box. And the last time I saw anything from 00:37:09.539 --> 00:37:13.139 Rob, it was like his sister was like crying, 00:37:13.260 --> 00:37:15.320 upset about something. I don't know, like boy 00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.760 problems or something. And so and he just like 00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.780 pulled her around in a boat until she stopped 00:37:19.780 --> 00:37:22.639 crying. He's just he looks like a sweetheart. 00:37:23.019 --> 00:37:27.039 Louisiana boy. Right. And he he did do my girl 00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:29.920 a little dirty on Love Island. But it's Love 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:33.409 Island. And yeah, I think that. I think he'll 00:37:33.409 --> 00:37:35.489 be great. I don't think he'll last that long. 00:37:35.590 --> 00:37:38.570 I don't think he's the sharpest knife in the 00:37:38.570 --> 00:37:42.590 box. If you think otherwise, dear viewer, feel 00:37:42.590 --> 00:37:47.230 free to send me an email about it. But I don't 00:37:47.230 --> 00:37:51.010 know how long he'll last in there. I think he 00:37:51.010 --> 00:37:53.389 doesn't really know how to be sneaky. But here's 00:37:53.389 --> 00:37:56.769 the God's honest truth. If he needs arms to run 00:37:56.769 --> 00:38:00.610 into after he gets eliminated, by God, my arms 00:38:00.610 --> 00:38:06.099 are open. He is a beautiful man. Rob Funches. 00:38:06.099 --> 00:38:07.920 I don't know how to say his last name, but I 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.420 have seen him and stuff. And I think he's funny. 00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:12.579 I don't know. I don't know. Kind of a random 00:38:12.579 --> 00:38:16.360 pick for them, I think. But I'm excited. We'll 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:18.659 see where it goes. Yeah. I love to see a comedian 00:38:18.659 --> 00:38:22.800 on Traders. I think. Stephen Coletti from One 00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.880 Tree Hill. I mean, I've seen One Tree Hill, but 00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:29.030 like. I've never seen One Tree Hill. I remember 00:38:29.030 --> 00:38:30.889 it used to come on either right before or right 00:38:30.889 --> 00:38:34.190 after Charmed. That's the only reason I've seen 00:38:34.190 --> 00:38:37.929 it. I think it was right after because I don't 00:38:37.929 --> 00:38:40.489 know. I don't know. Kind of, again, one of those 00:38:40.489 --> 00:38:43.550 like weird random picks. But I'll tell you, when 00:38:43.550 --> 00:38:48.869 the last cast came out and I saw Dylan Efron, 00:38:49.090 --> 00:38:53.210 I was like, oh, who is you? And then I loved 00:38:53.210 --> 00:38:57.150 him. I still love him. You know what I mean? 00:38:57.210 --> 00:38:59.010 So like some of these I'm saying, oh, what a 00:38:59.010 --> 00:39:00.969 weird random pick and I might fall in love with 00:39:00.969 --> 00:39:02.789 them. Let me let me tell you something. At the 00:39:02.789 --> 00:39:06.949 end of the day, you you can you can know one 00:39:06.949 --> 00:39:11.230 thing. I trust the judgment of the producers 00:39:11.230 --> 00:39:15.289 at NBC, Universal and Peacock to cast the traitors. 00:39:15.650 --> 00:39:19.429 They can tell me they can bring on anyone. They 00:39:19.429 --> 00:39:23.210 can bring on George from down the street. I trust 00:39:23.210 --> 00:39:26.769 you. Yeah, he must have that spark in him because, 00:39:26.849 --> 00:39:30.349 yeah, I don't know. That's all I'm going to say. 00:39:30.449 --> 00:39:32.929 I didn't think Dylan Efron was going to be that 00:39:32.929 --> 00:39:36.269 amazing to me, and he literally took my heart 00:39:36.269 --> 00:39:39.750 away. So I don't know. Tara Lipinski is going 00:39:39.750 --> 00:39:42.590 to be best friends with Johnny Weir. Yeah. Which 00:39:42.590 --> 00:39:44.530 is cool. Both figure skaters. I don't really 00:39:44.530 --> 00:39:47.050 know anything about her, though. Have you seen 00:39:47.050 --> 00:39:50.010 her anywhere else? Only on the Olympics, but 00:39:50.010 --> 00:39:52.320 I know that she was. Very, very talented. I feel 00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:56.940 like she was also in the episode of Project Runway 00:39:56.940 --> 00:40:00.739 that... Were they partners? Did they skate together? 00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:04.679 Maybe. I bet we find out on the traders. I bet 00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:06.400 we find out when their best friends are running 00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:08.980 around. Yeah. Tiffany Mitchell from Big Brother. 00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:12.059 Never watched Big Brother. Didn't know. Yam Yam. 00:40:12.059 --> 00:40:14.420 You're going to know something else about this 00:40:14.420 --> 00:40:20.840 man and me. Yeah. Yamiel Orocho. Orocho? Orocho. 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:24.360 Orocho. Yam Yam from Survivor. Not know to him. 00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.489 Don't know him, but. I'm excited to see. Yeah, 00:40:28.570 --> 00:40:30.150 I think it's going to be a really great season. 00:40:30.269 --> 00:40:32.869 I think The Traitors has only gotten better and 00:40:32.869 --> 00:40:36.809 better each season. Oh, my God. They can do no 00:40:36.809 --> 00:40:41.030 wrong in my eyes. Gold. And this cast is amazing. 00:40:41.150 --> 00:40:43.530 I don't see this season going any differently. 00:40:44.409 --> 00:40:46.170 Are you ready for The Secret Lives of Mormon 00:40:46.170 --> 00:40:50.949 Wives? Yes. So here's the thing. Travis has only 00:40:50.949 --> 00:40:53.130 seen episodes one and two, so we're going to 00:40:53.130 --> 00:40:55.090 try to get through this without me absolutely 00:40:55.090 --> 00:41:01.050 spoiling it for him. Let us dive in. Let's dive 00:41:01.050 --> 00:41:03.969 in. So we start episode one. It's called The 00:41:03.969 --> 00:41:08.190 Book of Revelations. The opening scene is the 00:41:08.190 --> 00:41:10.829 season opener party where they what they're trying 00:41:10.829 --> 00:41:14.489 very hard to do is take the Real Housewives format. 00:41:15.230 --> 00:41:17.789 where they have a season opening party and it's 00:41:17.789 --> 00:41:20.929 a whole thing. And it's like you're reintroduced 00:41:20.929 --> 00:41:22.929 to the show. That's very clear what's happening 00:41:22.929 --> 00:41:27.530 during this party is where I was trying to, like, 00:41:27.550 --> 00:41:29.769 figure out who was who, because, you know, that 00:41:29.769 --> 00:41:33.150 like two or three of the girls were exactly the 00:41:33.150 --> 00:41:35.510 same person in my mind. And that's why I like 00:41:35.510 --> 00:41:39.250 I had to take detailed notes because I thought 00:41:39.250 --> 00:41:44.460 Jen Taylor and. Is it Demi? I think Jen Taylor 00:41:44.460 --> 00:41:46.119 and Demi, I thought were the same person for 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:49.539 a little bit. Yeah. In your defense, a lot of 00:41:49.539 --> 00:41:52.760 them look very similar. They're all getting their 00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.860 procedures done at the same place. Hello. So 00:41:55.860 --> 00:41:59.679 it's like they all look the same, though. Demon 00:41:59.679 --> 00:42:03.500 Monster Whitney is back. That's all I have to 00:42:03.500 --> 00:42:06.320 say about her. I don't like Whitney. If that 00:42:06.320 --> 00:42:10.119 changes during the season, then that changes. 00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:14.940 I do not like Whitney. It was Aspen Ovard was 00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:16.900 at their opening party. I don't know who that 00:42:16.900 --> 00:42:20.760 is. She's an influencer. It was kind of weird. 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:24.860 It's all kind of like too self -aware for me. 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.820 Yeah. This is going to bring me to a point in 00:42:27.820 --> 00:42:31.980 a minute, but go ahead. I feel like I don't know. 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:33.960 And you'll have to watch the rest of it and see 00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:37.139 how you feel about it. I feel like Whitney is 00:42:37.139 --> 00:42:40.420 there because she wants that MomTalk money. That's 00:42:40.420 --> 00:42:42.980 all any of them are there for. And this is what 00:42:42.980 --> 00:42:45.920 we need to realize. This is a reality show. They're 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.699 making a reality show based on a TikTok influencer 00:42:50.699 --> 00:42:54.239 group, which is fine. Yeah. But let's not make 00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:57.639 it about anything else. Like, I want to see what's 00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.340 going on in their lives just like I want to see 00:42:59.340 --> 00:43:00.739 what's going on in the Real Housewives lives. 00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:04.199 Right. But that doesn't mean you have to pretend 00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:08.320 to be best friends. So I would I come at it from 00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:10.840 a different angle where like the best housewife 00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:14.119 shows are the shows where they have real relationships. 00:43:14.139 --> 00:43:17.300 I agree. I just don't think Whitney is there 00:43:17.300 --> 00:43:19.739 in order to gain a real relationship. I agree. 00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:24.579 I think she's there to get that check, baby. 00:43:24.699 --> 00:43:27.880 And that's fine. I just I have a hard time with 00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.760 this whole thing of like my mom taught group. 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:34.219 I'm so protective of her. No, you're not. No, 00:43:34.219 --> 00:43:35.199 you're not. Cause you're going to get the check. 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.500 You throw it. Stop. Just stop. Like that seems 00:43:37.500 --> 00:43:41.679 disingenuous to me. Yeah. Whitney really didn't 00:43:41.679 --> 00:43:44.539 grow on me at all. No, I do not like Whitney. 00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.820 And maybe that'll change. I do not like her right 00:43:47.820 --> 00:43:51.320 now. New girl, Miranda used to be best friends 00:43:51.320 --> 00:43:54.639 with Taylor. Okay. So, so, you know, the tea, 00:43:54.780 --> 00:43:57.480 she was like part of the group that was swinging. 00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.860 Right. And that I listen, I'm going to go on 00:44:00.860 --> 00:44:02.340 record right now. If you want to swing, swing. 00:44:02.989 --> 00:44:05.630 I want that for you. I love that for you. I would 00:44:05.630 --> 00:44:07.849 love to know the actual truth of this situation, 00:44:08.070 --> 00:44:11.010 though. I too. Because there is such a weird. 00:44:11.650 --> 00:44:14.429 And you'll see if you haven't yet. They like 00:44:14.429 --> 00:44:18.309 Taylor and Miranda talk about it. And we still 00:44:18.309 --> 00:44:20.829 don't really know what the real truth is. I've 00:44:20.829 --> 00:44:23.769 seen the preview of it. OK. But as of right now, 00:44:23.869 --> 00:44:27.030 all we all we have heard from Miranda is I only 00:44:27.030 --> 00:44:29.550 played the bottle or played spin the bottle and 00:44:29.550 --> 00:44:33.699 kissed a guy. So like, OK, I want you to watch 00:44:33.699 --> 00:44:35.940 a couple more episodes where Miranda gets to 00:44:35.940 --> 00:44:39.579 say her piece. And then I want to dive into what 00:44:39.579 --> 00:44:42.039 we think the real truth is, because I'll tell 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:44.599 you right now, we never get like a here is what 00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:49.119 happened. We never get that. We go to Jen and 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.500 Zach. Their marriage is falling apart and now 00:44:52.500 --> 00:44:54.579 they're separated. Here's what I believe happened 00:44:54.579 --> 00:44:57.809 with Jen and Zach. I believe Jen. started making 00:44:57.809 --> 00:45:01.550 a ton of money from MomTalk. She's a multi -millionaire 00:45:01.550 --> 00:45:04.050 from being an influencer and the brand deal she's 00:45:04.050 --> 00:45:06.510 getting and from the check she's getting from 00:45:06.510 --> 00:45:10.670 Hulu. 100%. I believe Zach said, oh, I can take 00:45:10.670 --> 00:45:13.550 a year in profit off of this. I think he might 00:45:13.550 --> 00:45:15.670 have said, I don't need to be a doctor anymore. 00:45:16.250 --> 00:45:18.869 Maybe. You're married. Or maybe he wants to take 00:45:18.869 --> 00:45:21.550 a minute and be a dad. They have kids. Whatever 00:45:21.550 --> 00:45:26.739 you want. I don't care. What I don't need is 00:45:26.739 --> 00:45:31.079 the narcissistic, well, I'm taking time away 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:33.260 from med school for you. I don't want all that. 00:45:33.840 --> 00:45:38.159 Yeah, it made me very uncomfortable. You have 00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:41.320 not gotten to the pin drop for Jen and Zach yet. 00:45:41.860 --> 00:45:45.420 We'll get there when we get there. It's mostly 00:45:45.420 --> 00:45:50.519 Jen. Jen, I'll just say this to those of you 00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:56.099 who have already seen this whole season. I am 00:45:56.099 --> 00:46:00.280 on Jen's side, and I think my heart goes out 00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.300 to her, truly. You need to see what happens and 00:46:03.300 --> 00:46:05.239 how they treat her this season. It is actually 00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:09.500 disgusting, in my opinion. Okay, fair. I will 00:46:09.500 --> 00:46:12.840 say Zach does look better with the new haircut. 00:46:13.019 --> 00:46:16.739 I agree. I agree. I'm going to be nice about 00:46:16.739 --> 00:46:22.019 Zach on the podcast. I don't want to be a homophobe. 00:46:24.750 --> 00:46:28.210 Moving on. During Pride Month. Not in June. So 00:46:28.210 --> 00:46:33.849 I forgot that season one closed with Macy calling 00:46:33.849 --> 00:46:39.909 Dakota's side chick Jenna. And we pick up at 00:46:39.909 --> 00:46:44.829 Macy's house with them meeting up with Jenna. 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:51.099 Yes. OK, that was that was so I could not believe. 00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:56.239 And I love Macy. I really like Macy. This whole 00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:58.739 season, she's really in her bag. I love her. 00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.579 And I love that she was like, yeah, we can have 00:47:02.579 --> 00:47:05.360 your baby daddy's side chick over to my house. 00:47:05.420 --> 00:47:07.539 I would love to see that. Let me tell you something 00:47:07.539 --> 00:47:13.639 else. I love that this girl signed a. Release 00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:17.679 and said, yeah, I'll go on TV. I love that. I 00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.280 love mess. And I love because what I wholeheartedly 00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.780 believe. And this is something about Utah and 00:47:24.780 --> 00:47:27.039 Salt Lake City in general, Salt Lake City in 00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:31.099 Utah in general, where I believe that they are 00:47:31.099 --> 00:47:34.880 not. They're self -aware that they're public. 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:38.159 They're not self -aware that their reality stars 00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:42.070 yet. And this girl said. I'm just going to go 00:47:42.070 --> 00:47:45.869 on TV and talk about my experience. Diva, you're 00:47:45.869 --> 00:47:50.730 going to shatter glass ceilings right here. You're 00:47:50.730 --> 00:47:54.670 being an icon. The way she handed Taylor her 00:47:54.670 --> 00:47:57.130 phone and she said, read it, mama. I don't care. 00:47:57.730 --> 00:48:01.389 Queen, queen, queen, queen. Loved it. I would 00:48:01.389 --> 00:48:04.119 argue that we need more. girls like that to be 00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.260 allies. Just be a hundred percent transparent. 00:48:07.579 --> 00:48:09.800 I think it comes from a place of insecurity. 00:48:09.980 --> 00:48:11.980 Most of the time when girls like don't share 00:48:11.980 --> 00:48:14.320 anything and are like that, I think it comes, 00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.320 it's a genuine place, but it is a place of insecurity. 00:48:18.099 --> 00:48:19.599 Well, because it's like, I was the other girl. 00:48:19.659 --> 00:48:22.739 Like, well, I fully get that. Yeah. But this 00:48:22.739 --> 00:48:25.280 girl just handed her phone right on over to Taylor. 00:48:25.300 --> 00:48:27.179 And you could tell Taylor wanted to be mad at 00:48:27.179 --> 00:48:29.159 her so bad, but couldn't be mad at her. She couldn't 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.579 find it in her. And that's where the breakdown 00:48:31.579 --> 00:48:33.289 came from. Because I think she went into the 00:48:33.289 --> 00:48:35.550 situation and she said, I'm going to rip this 00:48:35.550 --> 00:48:37.409 girl apart. I'm going to take this girl on national 00:48:37.409 --> 00:48:40.909 television. I'm going to ruin her. And she couldn't 00:48:40.909 --> 00:48:42.829 do it because the girl was so forthright and 00:48:42.829 --> 00:48:45.510 honest. A hundred percent. And that's where the 00:48:45.510 --> 00:48:48.730 tears and like the ugly sobbing came from. Because 00:48:48.730 --> 00:48:52.849 I think that she was like. fuck i don't i don't 00:48:52.849 --> 00:48:55.670 have an out here i think she expected for jenna 00:48:55.670 --> 00:48:59.010 to be vindictive or even like possessive over 00:48:59.010 --> 00:49:01.889 what she had with dakota but she's an absolute 00:49:01.889 --> 00:49:04.489 icon and a queen who was like i i don't care 00:49:04.489 --> 00:49:08.289 about that man read my text uh i yeah loved it 00:49:08.289 --> 00:49:12.750 loved it loved it Even when Taylor was being 00:49:12.750 --> 00:49:15.349 absolutely delusional, like asking about specific 00:49:15.349 --> 00:49:18.789 dates that are like over a year in the past and 00:49:18.789 --> 00:49:21.550 asking about. But she was still honest and she's 00:49:21.550 --> 00:49:23.050 like, hang on, what did we say around that date? 00:49:23.130 --> 00:49:25.809 And she like filled in the gap for her. Yeah, 00:49:25.809 --> 00:49:27.650 she was like going through her text with Dakota 00:49:27.650 --> 00:49:29.550 during that time frame and was like, yeah, I 00:49:29.550 --> 00:49:32.289 saw him that day. I guess I didn't see him that 00:49:32.289 --> 00:49:34.269 day, but what we said was this and this and this. 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.199 And then she was like, so there was like one 00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:39.420 point where she didn't remember and like she 00:49:39.420 --> 00:49:41.079 just stood on business because Taylor kind of 00:49:41.079 --> 00:49:42.980 put pressure on her to be like, well, what is 00:49:42.980 --> 00:49:46.659 it? And she was like, girl, I don't know. But 00:49:46.659 --> 00:49:49.679 the saddest part, I think, was where I guess 00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.380 Dakota and I do believe this. Dakota said, I'm 00:49:52.380 --> 00:49:54.380 only hanging out with Taylor to like grow my 00:49:54.380 --> 00:49:57.139 social media following. And I was like, fuck 00:49:57.139 --> 00:50:00.139 you. I knew he was a clout chaser. I knew he 00:50:00.139 --> 00:50:02.420 was a clout chaser. But he was like, how could 00:50:02.420 --> 00:50:05.199 he have known? What he was getting into with 00:50:05.199 --> 00:50:08.079 Taylor that early on. She already had millions 00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.559 of followers. Is she really? She's been big on 00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:14.500 TikTok forever. She was the girl. If you don't 00:50:14.500 --> 00:50:18.199 know this about Taylor, Frankie Paul, she was 00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:22.380 the girl who was going on TikTok with two girls 00:50:22.380 --> 00:50:26.260 who were her same age and saying that she was 00:50:26.260 --> 00:50:31.449 50 and they were her kids. i don't remember this 00:50:31.449 --> 00:50:33.889 you need to do a deep dive on this because it's 00:50:33.889 --> 00:50:36.769 it was actually like i don't know what she was 00:50:36.769 --> 00:50:38.889 thinking but she was like telling all of tiktok 00:50:38.889 --> 00:50:41.769 this is how she like gained her initial following 00:50:41.769 --> 00:50:44.610 i think it was years ago i'm not shading her 00:50:44.610 --> 00:50:47.769 for this by the way but she would go on there 00:50:47.769 --> 00:50:50.409 and she would say yeah me and my two girls and 00:50:50.409 --> 00:50:52.610 it would be like picture miranda and michaela 00:50:52.610 --> 00:50:56.360 like next to her dancing and she's like I'm their 00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:59.519 mom. I'm 50 years old. And she's our age. Yeah. 00:50:59.619 --> 00:51:03.460 Okay. Yeah. It's kind of a weird thing, but she's 00:51:03.460 --> 00:51:09.039 always had a lot of followers. So, dear listener, 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:11.940 just know that an upcoming Mama Let's Research 00:51:11.940 --> 00:51:14.880 segment will be about one Miss Taylor Frankie 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:18.630 Paul. She has a lot of depth to her. And can 00:51:18.630 --> 00:51:20.769 I just say, I'm really not shading Taylor. I 00:51:20.769 --> 00:51:25.030 think she went through it this season. Oh, a 00:51:25.030 --> 00:51:26.989 million percent. I can see it coming. It's going 00:51:26.989 --> 00:51:28.789 to be a dark, dark, dark season for her. It is 00:51:28.789 --> 00:51:33.309 hard on her. And I think she really handled it 00:51:33.309 --> 00:51:36.969 with grace for the most part. There's an incident 00:51:36.969 --> 00:51:39.789 you'll see where it's like she could have just 00:51:39.789 --> 00:51:45.489 let some shit go. But she... The way her family 00:51:45.489 --> 00:51:48.090 wasn't on her side, the way no one's on her side. 00:51:48.090 --> 00:51:50.869 I've got notes about that one, too. She, yeah, 00:51:51.110 --> 00:51:54.989 she really handled most of it with grace. Anyway, 00:51:55.150 --> 00:52:00.150 yeah. Miranda and Whitney go to the park. I could 00:52:00.150 --> 00:52:01.610 have done without that. That's all I'll say. 00:52:01.730 --> 00:52:03.449 I also could have done without the haunted house, 00:52:03.510 --> 00:52:06.429 but I understand it was a plot point to get to 00:52:06.429 --> 00:52:08.269 them all sitting down and talking because that 00:52:08.269 --> 00:52:13.119 is. another real housewives trope yeah um they 00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:16.760 had to they get the group together right some 00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:19.460 one of the girls says anyone that joins mom talk 00:52:19.460 --> 00:52:22.179 at this point is just clout chasing and my question 00:52:22.179 --> 00:52:26.119 is is that not like the whole you are all clout 00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:29.780 chasing every single one of you even may see 00:52:29.780 --> 00:52:34.280 my favorite girl it is a clout you want clout 00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:39.170 because mama you Want that check. And that's 00:52:39.170 --> 00:52:43.789 OK. No one is mad at you. No one's mad at you. 00:52:43.829 --> 00:52:47.250 And I understand that you're like defending your 00:52:47.250 --> 00:52:51.110 position. Sure. And you don't want you don't 00:52:51.110 --> 00:52:53.630 want your money to be diluted or your followers 00:52:53.630 --> 00:52:56.750 or whatever to be diluted by too many people 00:52:56.750 --> 00:52:59.530 coming in and, you know, people favoring them. 00:52:59.610 --> 00:53:02.530 Yeah. But you don't have to call them cloud chasers 00:53:02.530 --> 00:53:04.929 because that's because divas over you and kettle 00:53:04.929 --> 00:53:11.099 baby. Um, we cut to Taylor's mom showing up at 00:53:11.099 --> 00:53:14.980 Taylor's house with ever true is her child's 00:53:14.980 --> 00:53:20.480 name. Yeah. Which is fine. Like fine. Taylor's 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.619 mom has had a lot of work done. My thing is like, 00:53:24.639 --> 00:53:27.880 yes, she got a lot of work done. And why does 00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:31.909 the work make her look like Taylor? Let me tell 00:53:31.909 --> 00:53:34.429 you, because this is something I'm going to talk 00:53:34.429 --> 00:53:37.389 about in episode two in just a couple minutes 00:53:37.389 --> 00:53:41.769 where I have a theory about this. But I think, 00:53:41.849 --> 00:53:45.489 yeah, OK, we'll get into it in a minute. I'm 00:53:45.489 --> 00:53:49.730 not interested in Taylor's mom's Mormon family 00:53:49.730 --> 00:53:53.500 values bullshit. I am not interested because 00:53:53.500 --> 00:53:56.559 let me tell you where this stems from is I grew 00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.960 up in the church. I've seen a million separations, 00:53:59.960 --> 00:54:02.380 breakups, divorces go down just like this, where 00:54:02.380 --> 00:54:07.340 the family does every the family of the woman 00:54:07.340 --> 00:54:09.940 does everything in their power to keep the man 00:54:09.940 --> 00:54:12.639 and the woman together because it's shameful 00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.380 to be divorced. It's shameful to be a single 00:54:14.380 --> 00:54:16.960 mother. It's sick. Let me tell you right now, 00:54:17.019 --> 00:54:22.800 it is sick. It reminded me of season one of Salt 00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.900 Lake City. Heather Gay saying, yes, you should 00:54:25.900 --> 00:54:28.019 stay in your toxic marriage because that's what 00:54:28.019 --> 00:54:31.280 she was raised to believe. It is like a brainwashing 00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:34.760 thing. It is. It's actually like sad for me to 00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:38.239 see because people would rather struggle. Right. 00:54:38.380 --> 00:54:41.219 And that that's hard for me to come to terms 00:54:41.219 --> 00:54:44.500 with. Yes. I would be a single mom every day 00:54:44.500 --> 00:54:48.269 over. being miserable with a man. Being miserable, 00:54:48.369 --> 00:54:51.010 but, like, I would take it one step further. 00:54:52.110 --> 00:54:55.650 Before I would, like, I would ask, I think it's 00:54:55.650 --> 00:54:57.170 fine to ask the question, like, are you sure, 00:54:57.329 --> 00:55:00.309 like, you're done? And that's a fine question 00:55:00.309 --> 00:55:02.170 to ask. That's the reason there are separation 00:55:02.170 --> 00:55:04.969 laws in so many states. Yes. You have to be separated, 00:55:05.110 --> 00:55:08.389 yeah. Because you want to be sure. To push your 00:55:08.389 --> 00:55:10.929 child to stay in a relationship in which she 00:55:10.929 --> 00:55:13.869 is miserable, you are the bad person. Yeah, your 00:55:13.869 --> 00:55:16.079 daughter? Period, full stop. you're gonna sit 00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:19.840 there to your daughter uh is episode two when 00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:23.019 they're like at Taylor's family's house I can't 00:55:23.019 --> 00:55:26.139 wait to talk about that can't wait I could not 00:55:26.139 --> 00:55:30.179 believe the way her family spoke to her anyway 00:55:30.179 --> 00:55:33.280 we'll get there Taylor wants a break from Dakota 00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:36.159 is where they land and I support that I think 00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:38.420 that's probably the smart move I'll tell you 00:55:38.969 --> 00:55:41.130 Early on in the season, especially, she kind 00:55:41.130 --> 00:55:43.269 of flips back and forth. I've already seen her 00:55:43.269 --> 00:55:47.590 flip twice. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So Jen and Zach 00:55:47.590 --> 00:55:50.550 go to ketamine therapy. Which I support, by the 00:55:50.550 --> 00:55:52.030 way. I want them to go to ketamine therapy. I 00:55:52.030 --> 00:55:54.429 think it was a smart decision for them to do 00:55:54.429 --> 00:56:00.010 that. I wish Zach was more into it. Can I tell 00:56:00.010 --> 00:56:03.610 you something? Hmm. I don't believe Zach actually 00:56:03.610 --> 00:56:07.750 did it. Really? Yes. Even with the needle in 00:56:07.750 --> 00:56:10.940 his arm? I don't believe he did it because of 00:56:10.940 --> 00:56:13.800 the way he acted. I believe that Jin did it. 00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:15.860 It did give like fake high. Where it was like, 00:56:15.940 --> 00:56:19.760 oh, how long were we out? Shut up. I believe 00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:23.119 that he had done it. Prior to this episode, I 00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.699 do not believe that he did it on camera, which 00:56:25.699 --> 00:56:27.900 is fine. If you don't want to do it on camera, 00:56:28.019 --> 00:56:30.219 that's fine. But don't do the whole song and 00:56:30.219 --> 00:56:33.980 dance for me, please. Don't lie. Don't lie. And 00:56:33.980 --> 00:56:37.519 I, yeah, he kind of did like the whole fake high 00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:41.320 thing. And then it was like gone in an instant. 00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:44.980 It was weird. It was weird. Jen decides that 00:56:44.980 --> 00:56:47.800 Zach needs to meet with some of the girls to 00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:52.029 clear the air or whatever the case may be. So 00:56:52.029 --> 00:56:56.329 we cut back to Taylor's house. Dakota's moving 00:56:56.329 --> 00:57:02.409 out. And it goes to an interview with him. This 00:57:02.409 --> 00:57:05.409 is the moment I realize I like him better in 00:57:05.409 --> 00:57:09.389 a hat. There are a lot of men out there who look 00:57:09.389 --> 00:57:12.829 far better with a hat on. And this was hard for 00:57:12.829 --> 00:57:15.170 me because I spent the entire first season being 00:57:15.170 --> 00:57:17.110 like, oh, my God, stay together. He's so hot. 00:57:17.150 --> 00:57:19.869 He's so hot. He's so hot. And now I'm like. Oh, 00:57:19.909 --> 00:57:24.389 so Dakota's moving out. Thank God. And what I 00:57:24.389 --> 00:57:27.489 what I took away from this interview, and I hope 00:57:27.489 --> 00:57:31.809 I'm not wrong, is that I will buy that he loves 00:57:31.809 --> 00:57:35.949 Taylor on some level. I think that he does. But 00:57:35.949 --> 00:57:39.409 I think it all stems from like, I want to keep 00:57:39.409 --> 00:57:42.590 the family together thing. And I don't. Maybe. 00:57:43.170 --> 00:57:45.710 And I don't like that. But what I do believe 00:57:45.710 --> 00:57:49.710 more is that he's got that dog in him. He needs. 00:57:51.130 --> 00:57:55.989 I don't know. I have no sympathy for him. He's 00:57:55.989 --> 00:57:59.889 in his 30s. He has a kid. Yeah. Fucking grow 00:57:59.889 --> 00:58:02.750 up. And that's and I think he needs to be single 00:58:02.750 --> 00:58:05.730 until he can grow up. I think Taylor and Dakota 00:58:05.730 --> 00:58:09.230 needs to last until he can grow up or forever. 00:58:09.610 --> 00:58:13.869 Anyway, we cut to Miranda's happy hour. Yeah. 00:58:16.420 --> 00:58:20.480 Demi. Demi doesn't want one more problem bleeding 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.840 into the group for the health of the mom. Shut 00:58:22.840 --> 00:58:25.559 up. She's the villain of the season. I'll just 00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.280 tell you. She turns into an absolute demon and 00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:32.800 I can't wait for you to see it. Perfect. Jen 00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:34.460 doesn't know if she can trust anyone after Vegas 00:58:34.460 --> 00:58:38.719 because she says no one supported her when she 00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:41.840 was going through her stuff with Zach. And have 00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:45.360 you seen the Halloween party yet? I've seen the 00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:47.599 first half of it because like the second episode 00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:51.239 cuts off at the halfway through. And this is 00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:55.119 where I start. I started to be on Jen's side 00:58:55.119 --> 00:58:56.579 a little bit where I'm like, oh, that sucks. 00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:58.820 Like everyone knows what that feels like to be 00:58:58.820 --> 00:59:01.380 going through something and like, yeah. And feel 00:59:01.380 --> 00:59:03.480 like you don't have the support of your friends 00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:06.019 on top of going through it with your husband. 00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:08.800 That's hard. But just you wait, ladies and gentlemen, 00:59:08.860 --> 00:59:12.219 just you wait. So Miranda and Taylor decide to 00:59:12.219 --> 00:59:15.389 have. Their conversation with the entire group, 00:59:15.449 --> 00:59:17.650 of course, because how are you going to drive 00:59:17.650 --> 00:59:22.949 a plot? Right, right, right, right. And and that's 00:59:22.949 --> 00:59:25.590 where the episode ends. And the last thing I 00:59:25.590 --> 00:59:28.050 wrote was, I think I'm a fan of Miranda. Tell 00:59:28.050 --> 00:59:31.530 me if I'm wrong about this. I like her, too. 00:59:31.730 --> 00:59:35.409 OK, I think. OK, so like I'm coming from obviously 00:59:35.409 --> 00:59:37.170 a different perspective because I've seen the 00:59:37.170 --> 00:59:42.010 whole thing. I wish she spoke up. More like I 00:59:42.010 --> 00:59:44.110 wish she stood on business a little bit more 00:59:44.110 --> 00:59:46.969 than she does, because I feel like she's kind 00:59:46.969 --> 00:59:51.210 of a background character for most of it. Does 00:59:51.210 --> 00:59:55.550 that ever change? No. OK, like what you see from 00:59:55.550 --> 00:59:57.489 her in the first episode is the most you see 00:59:57.489 --> 01:00:00.150 of her. It brings us to episode two where we 01:00:00.150 --> 01:00:02.929 pick up where we left off at Miranda's happy 01:00:02.929 --> 01:00:07.219 hour. yeah okay let's get into it i feel like 01:00:07.219 --> 01:00:10.719 miranda's not being 100 honest about yeah i think 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:14.619 that i think she's not being honest and i think 01:00:14.619 --> 01:00:19.019 taylor is doing her a service by not just airing 01:00:19.019 --> 01:00:23.719 everything out i agree and i appreciate and resent 01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:27.860 it at the same time because i think In these 01:00:27.860 --> 01:00:30.539 situations, you gotta be 100 % real about it. 01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:33.840 Just be real. Yeah. But I also get that, like, 01:00:33.860 --> 01:00:35.699 in these scenarios, it's like, you don't want 01:00:35.699 --> 01:00:40.039 to do that. And it's also awkward because Taylor 01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:44.559 was the beginning of the end of Miranda's marriage. 01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:51.159 Yes. And so it's like, she doesn't want to ruin 01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:55.400 her marriage and then also ruin her... TV career 01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:57.460 and all of that, because I don't think she has 01:00:57.460 --> 01:01:01.639 a vendetta against Miranda. No. So I think I 01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:03.119 also think there's a loyalty there because they 01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:06.340 did used to be like best friends. Yeah. And they 01:01:06.340 --> 01:01:11.079 were fucking. But anyway, I think so. You did 01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:14.820 they talk about Chase at this point at all? They 01:01:14.820 --> 01:01:17.739 talked about how Taylor goes up to Chase, Miranda's 01:01:17.739 --> 01:01:20.960 ex -husband, and said at the gym and says, I 01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:23.309 had a sex dream about you. And he said. I think 01:01:23.309 --> 01:01:28.530 I have feelings for you. Yeah. And that is the 01:01:28.530 --> 01:01:30.989 most Utah thing I've ever heard in my entire 01:01:30.989 --> 01:01:33.809 life. He said, let me make that dream a reality, 01:01:34.030 --> 01:01:36.510 which is crazy because I think they were already 01:01:36.510 --> 01:01:40.769 fucking. But like Taylor was also like, oh, no, 01:01:40.849 --> 01:01:44.150 no, no, no. Right. Like I'm friends with your 01:01:44.150 --> 01:01:48.289 wife type of thing. Like, OK, so I do think it's 01:01:48.289 --> 01:01:50.670 inappropriate to go up to your best friend's. 01:01:51.529 --> 01:01:55.030 and say, I had a sex dream about you. Is it inappropriate 01:01:55.030 --> 01:01:58.949 if you've been doing it, though? But I'm saying 01:01:58.949 --> 01:02:01.150 that's what makes me think they're fucking. That's 01:02:01.150 --> 01:02:03.230 the only reason Taylor would feel like it's an 01:02:03.230 --> 01:02:05.809 okay thing to say. Oh, hang on a second. I believe 01:02:05.809 --> 01:02:08.429 Taylor 100 % would say that to anyone in real 01:02:08.429 --> 01:02:11.210 life. It's just the vibe I get from her. I don't 01:02:11.210 --> 01:02:16.530 think she would go up to Demi's husband and say, 01:02:16.650 --> 01:02:19.130 I had a sex dream about you. Can I say something? 01:02:19.389 --> 01:02:22.739 You think she would? I would to Timmy's husband. 01:02:23.019 --> 01:02:25.699 Well, yeah, he's hot. That was kind of a... To 01:02:25.699 --> 01:02:30.840 Jesse's husband. I don't think she would do that 01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:34.380 unless they were already in that type of relationship. 01:02:35.869 --> 01:02:38.650 I don't know. I do think Taylor tends to speak 01:02:38.650 --> 01:02:41.469 her mind. But to just go up to your best friend's 01:02:41.469 --> 01:02:44.789 husband. That's fair. Like, there's no way that 01:02:44.789 --> 01:02:48.050 they weren't fucking. There's no way. But what 01:02:48.050 --> 01:02:51.730 I can also tell you is that Taylor owned up to 01:02:51.730 --> 01:02:55.030 being an asshole. That's what I respected about 01:02:55.030 --> 01:02:58.690 her the most this season is that she's kind of 01:02:58.690 --> 01:03:02.469 owning her shit. Yes. Like when she, you haven't 01:03:02.469 --> 01:03:04.030 gotten to a part where she doesn't really own 01:03:04.030 --> 01:03:06.710 her shit. But for the most part, she really is 01:03:06.710 --> 01:03:10.989 like, even with Dakota, you'll see later on she 01:03:10.989 --> 01:03:14.849 gets to a point where she's very much like, he 01:03:14.849 --> 01:03:17.630 triggers me. Every time I look at him, I think 01:03:17.630 --> 01:03:20.050 about when he cheated and it triggers me. And 01:03:20.050 --> 01:03:22.550 that is so self -aware of her. Right. Like that 01:03:22.550 --> 01:03:28.139 is. a very mature thing to say I know that I'm 01:03:28.139 --> 01:03:31.199 not being rational yes that like and I really 01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:33.840 appreciated that we don't see that a lot and 01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:36.940 what what I thought was very cool is she actually 01:03:36.940 --> 01:03:40.980 said I was also a villain here and like what 01:03:40.980 --> 01:03:43.920 the other girls aren't seeing is I was a villain 01:03:44.909 --> 01:03:47.630 And they are being really hard on Miranda. And 01:03:47.630 --> 01:03:49.389 I don't think that's fair to her. She said that. 01:03:49.409 --> 01:03:51.269 And I thought that was very cool of her. I thought 01:03:51.269 --> 01:03:53.550 they were almost like hazing her, especially 01:03:53.550 --> 01:03:58.769 Michaela. Michaela went off the fucking rails. 01:03:59.230 --> 01:04:02.130 And I did not think she needed to. I will say, 01:04:02.170 --> 01:04:04.050 I think later on in the season, she might have 01:04:04.050 --> 01:04:06.469 apologized for that, for saying like she went 01:04:06.469 --> 01:04:10.369 a little too hard on Miranda. But like, whoa. 01:04:11.210 --> 01:04:16.010 Whoa. Was that uncalled for? Yes, 100%. The girls 01:04:16.010 --> 01:04:18.909 go shopping for Halloween and Stagecoach, and 01:04:18.909 --> 01:04:21.090 all I wrote here was that Jessie and Layla are 01:04:21.090 --> 01:04:23.610 so goddamn pretty. They are. They are beautiful. 01:04:24.630 --> 01:04:27.610 They do Layla dirty on this season, too. Like, 01:04:27.670 --> 01:04:30.929 they're showing her extension tracks. They're 01:04:30.929 --> 01:04:33.230 showing her, like, the producers should have 01:04:33.230 --> 01:04:34.989 stepped in and, like, fixed her up situation. 01:04:35.010 --> 01:04:36.710 That's mean. I don't like that. They do her so 01:04:36.710 --> 01:04:40.000 dirty. She is stunning, gorgeous, beautiful. 01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:44.679 Yes. Um, and so is Jesse. Yeah. Also, obviously 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.139 Jesse's hair is always going to look good. Cause 01:04:47.139 --> 01:04:48.659 she's like a hairstylist, right? Yeah. That's 01:04:48.659 --> 01:04:52.519 her thing. Okay. Um, and she, but my God, does 01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:56.219 it always look good? Yes. Like so amazing. Yes. 01:04:56.219 --> 01:04:59.719 Love, love, love. The guys go fly fishing. Dakota 01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.780 has a hat back on. Thank God. Um, I find out 01:05:03.780 --> 01:05:07.420 here that Demi's husband is 47 and high. I, Really 01:05:07.420 --> 01:05:11.599 love that. We find out that Taylor's mom invited 01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:15.500 Dakota to a cookout. I could have done without 01:05:15.500 --> 01:05:18.000 the fly fishing. I didn't need that. I don't 01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:22.059 really know why they did it except for the conversation 01:05:22.059 --> 01:05:24.719 with Zach. I think that was the whole point. 01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:26.599 It was a plot driver to get the guys together. 01:05:26.980 --> 01:05:29.260 Yeah. Where Zach could admit he was an asshole 01:05:29.260 --> 01:05:31.900 about the Chippendales thing. Okay. Which is 01:05:31.900 --> 01:05:33.880 going to rear its ugly head again in a minute. 01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:37.710 Yeah, because he didn't. He didn't actually mean 01:05:37.710 --> 01:05:43.610 that, did he? What I'll buy is that he meant 01:05:43.610 --> 01:05:46.590 it if he wasn't ever going to have to deal with 01:05:46.590 --> 01:05:49.550 it again. And here's here's the God's honest 01:05:49.550 --> 01:05:52.469 truth. There's a reason for the saying what happens 01:05:52.469 --> 01:05:55.570 in Vegas stays in Vegas, because I I have been 01:05:55.570 --> 01:05:59.769 to these Chippendales, these Thunderdown undershows 01:05:59.769 --> 01:06:03.250 in Vegas where you go. And it's a bunch of married 01:06:03.250 --> 01:06:09.510 women who. just need a thrill and that's fine 01:06:09.510 --> 01:06:13.429 and it's it's designed for bachelorette parties 01:06:13.429 --> 01:06:16.989 is all it is yeah and yeah none of it's real 01:06:16.989 --> 01:06:20.210 none of it is substantive and it's like oh my 01:06:20.210 --> 01:06:21.889 god that was so much fun it's the same thing 01:06:21.889 --> 01:06:24.769 as going to a strip club I think it's fine if 01:06:24.769 --> 01:06:26.829 you want to go but I also think it's fine if 01:06:26.829 --> 01:06:28.929 you have a boundary in your marriage where it's 01:06:28.929 --> 01:06:31.230 like hey I'm not entirely comfortable with you 01:06:31.230 --> 01:06:35.420 going where I do have a problem is Zach telling 01:06:35.420 --> 01:06:37.920 jen that he doesn't love her anymore over it 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:40.500 i think that's very problematic because i think 01:06:40.500 --> 01:06:45.880 that i also maybe we need to unpack that i also 01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:51.559 just get to a point where He is like in general 01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:57.219 terms, he is expecting her to be so committed 01:06:57.219 --> 01:07:00.420 to their marriage, to following these rules that 01:07:00.420 --> 01:07:02.440 he's set for her. To following him to Arizona, 01:07:02.739 --> 01:07:06.199 to following him to. Yeah. Yes. Yes. But he does 01:07:06.199 --> 01:07:10.119 not subscribe to the same way of thinking. Do 01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:13.489 you want to know what that stems from? His narcissism. 01:07:13.530 --> 01:07:16.889 The church. Yeah, well, yeah, the misogyny of 01:07:16.889 --> 01:07:20.130 it all, of you need me because I am your man 01:07:20.130 --> 01:07:23.989 situation. And I get it. I do. They're religious, 01:07:24.110 --> 01:07:30.969 but it's like, girl, stand up. Moving on. I also 01:07:30.969 --> 01:07:33.369 asked, who is the derpy guy at the end of this 01:07:33.369 --> 01:07:35.150 scene? Because I didn't know who the fourth husband 01:07:35.150 --> 01:07:38.710 was. Jesse's husband? We find out it's Jesse's 01:07:38.710 --> 01:07:44.099 husband. you're gonna find out this season this 01:07:44.099 --> 01:07:46.159 is not a spoiler at all you could have just looked 01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:50.139 this up but jesse and her husband are rich without 01:07:50.139 --> 01:07:54.340 influencing without hulu so this is a common 01:07:54.340 --> 01:08:00.300 thing in salt lake city like there's real money 01:08:00.300 --> 01:08:05.159 there like there's real money so They're they're 01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:07.360 very rich anyway. And I love that for them. I 01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:11.099 guess a lot of it is Jesse's hair care. It's 01:08:11.099 --> 01:08:13.860 like not just a salon. She also makes products. 01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:18.800 Do you want to know who else does that is? Angie, 01:08:18.859 --> 01:08:21.020 Angie Katzen Davis on Real Housewives of Salt 01:08:21.020 --> 01:08:25.300 Lake City, who owns, I think, two or three salons. 01:08:25.300 --> 01:08:27.680 But then they also franchise out the Paul Mitchell 01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:31.479 schools. They also have lines of salon products. 01:08:31.579 --> 01:08:35.500 They also like and they are. Wealthy. Yeah, I 01:08:35.500 --> 01:08:39.439 think you make money off of salon lines. Yes. 01:08:39.460 --> 01:08:42.899 Like shampoo, conditioner. Oh, yeah. That type 01:08:42.899 --> 01:08:47.140 of shit. Because the overhead is amazing. Yeah, 01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:47.979 it costs nothing to make. And the profit margins 01:08:47.979 --> 01:08:50.899 are perfect. It costs nothing to make and people 01:08:50.899 --> 01:08:53.569 will... pay an arm and a leg for their hair to 01:08:53.569 --> 01:08:56.090 be shiny that and then you have like built -in 01:08:56.090 --> 01:08:58.430 like loyalty where it's like oh you come to my 01:08:58.430 --> 01:09:01.029 salon like this you know you like this part of 01:09:01.029 --> 01:09:03.550 it and like yeah and it's probably good stuff 01:09:03.550 --> 01:09:05.470 like i won't take that away from them yeah every 01:09:05.470 --> 01:09:07.569 time i've ever bought product from any salon 01:09:07.569 --> 01:09:11.710 it's been amazing so there's money there yeah 01:09:11.710 --> 01:09:15.609 yeah so demi and jesse had to meet zach um they 01:09:15.609 --> 01:09:18.340 all go meet up at a coffee shop which Fun fact 01:09:18.340 --> 01:09:20.060 is, you know that coffee, drinking hot coffee 01:09:20.060 --> 01:09:21.880 is not acceptable in the Mormon religion. Right, 01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:27.939 not Mormon. But ketamine is a gray area. I always 01:09:27.939 --> 01:09:31.460 thought even like the soda versus coffee thing 01:09:31.460 --> 01:09:33.319 is so silly. It's so wild. Why are you allowed 01:09:33.319 --> 01:09:36.359 to drink soda with a higher caffeine content 01:09:36.359 --> 01:09:39.060 than coffee? But you're not a, I don't know, 01:09:39.140 --> 01:09:42.250 whatever. Joseph Smith, you're confusing. It's 01:09:42.250 --> 01:09:44.329 all confusing. But this is where we start to 01:09:44.329 --> 01:09:46.350 get holes poked in the story, because Zach brings 01:09:46.350 --> 01:09:48.369 out the thing about Jen saying that the girls 01:09:48.369 --> 01:09:51.109 weren't there for her. But it turns out the girls 01:09:51.109 --> 01:09:54.170 did nothing but reach out to her. And Jen didn't 01:09:54.170 --> 01:09:58.189 respond. Yeah. But here's what I appreciate about 01:09:58.189 --> 01:10:02.189 Zach, where he stayed on his wife's side. He 01:10:02.189 --> 01:10:06.619 stood 10 tones down for Jen in that. meeting 01:10:06.619 --> 01:10:12.420 that they had can i just say how strange it is 01:10:12.420 --> 01:10:15.439 the idea of your husband meeting with your friends 01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:19.020 to talk about you and you're not I thought that 01:10:19.020 --> 01:10:21.000 was as dumb as the day is long. I thought it 01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:24.180 was weird. I wouldn't want Kenny to meet up with 01:10:24.180 --> 01:10:26.819 my friends without me to talk about me. I think 01:10:26.819 --> 01:10:28.880 that's weird. I think she thought they weren't 01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:31.260 going to talk about her, though. I truly believe 01:10:31.260 --> 01:10:35.239 that Jen said that Zach was going to apologize 01:10:35.239 --> 01:10:38.079 for being an asshole. And that's what the conversation 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:40.560 was going to end. That's right. That he was just 01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:43.220 because he was mean to the girls, too. Yeah, 01:10:43.220 --> 01:10:45.960 that's true. And you know what? I did like that 01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:49.039 he owned up to everything and he said he was 01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:53.399 sorry. I didn't like the way the girls acted, 01:10:53.500 --> 01:10:55.760 the way the girls were like, your wife is so 01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:58.619 fake. Your wife, your wife, your wife. What? 01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:01.420 Like, I just thought that was so strange. But 01:11:01.420 --> 01:11:03.859 when you're confronted with what you've been 01:11:03.859 --> 01:11:08.210 told and you're like. No, that's a lie. No, they 01:11:08.210 --> 01:11:10.810 definitely did have a right to be like, oh, don't 01:11:10.810 --> 01:11:12.689 say I wasn't there for her because I did try 01:11:12.689 --> 01:11:14.729 to be there for her and she didn't answer me. 01:11:14.850 --> 01:11:17.010 But when Zach found this out, he said all the 01:11:17.010 --> 01:11:19.250 right things. He said, I don't know anything 01:11:19.250 --> 01:11:21.369 about that. I'm going to be in my wife's side. 01:11:21.489 --> 01:11:24.090 That's all I needed him to say. Yeah. And I was 01:11:24.090 --> 01:11:26.810 fine with that. Yeah, I did like the way he handled 01:11:26.810 --> 01:11:29.109 that. I just thought it was a weird position 01:11:29.109 --> 01:11:33.899 to put your husband in. I feel like if... Jen 01:11:33.899 --> 01:11:36.039 were there she could have just hashed it out 01:11:36.039 --> 01:11:38.979 right there because I don't think it's I don't 01:11:38.979 --> 01:11:44.119 know if it's in this episode where Jen like meets 01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:47.140 up with Jesse and Demi and talks about it they 01:11:47.140 --> 01:11:50.520 they both got to meet with Jesse and Demi later 01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:54.399 in this episode okay yeah because I just feel 01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:56.239 like they could have done that all at once they 01:11:56.239 --> 01:11:58.859 should have Like they should have gotten a table 01:11:58.859 --> 01:12:01.979 for four. Yes. And it was weird. I didn't. I 01:12:01.979 --> 01:12:04.819 didn't like that this happened because it was 01:12:04.819 --> 01:12:08.340 pointless. Other. I think it was a plot driver 01:12:08.340 --> 01:12:12.060 to Jen's a liar. Jen's a fucking liar. Yeah. 01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:16.779 And she did lie like that. There is no beating 01:12:16.779 --> 01:12:19.140 around the bush. She did lie about the girls 01:12:19.140 --> 01:12:24.579 not being there for her. I do think maybe she 01:12:24.579 --> 01:12:29.109 wasn't. I feel like after that situation, I would 01:12:29.109 --> 01:12:32.829 have been embarrassed. I would have been embarrassed 01:12:32.829 --> 01:12:36.090 that my husband acted like that. And I wouldn't, 01:12:36.090 --> 01:12:38.470 I don't, I don't know what I would have done, 01:12:38.569 --> 01:12:41.310 but I kind of understand where she came from. 01:12:41.529 --> 01:12:47.829 But we cut to the cookout. Oh, I cannot. So like, 01:12:47.890 --> 01:12:51.109 I just have to get on my high horse here. If 01:12:51.109 --> 01:12:56.579 my family ever spoke to me the way, Taylor's 01:12:56.579 --> 01:13:01.500 mother and stepdad talk to her in front of Dakota. 01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:06.439 In front of anyone. And her sisters and the whole 01:13:06.439 --> 01:13:10.600 family. I would cut ties with them. Immediately. 01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:14.000 That is so inappropriate. So if you haven't seen 01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:17.979 it, Taylor's stepdad does not beat around the 01:13:17.979 --> 01:13:22.220 bush in saying, you're a whore for sleeping with 01:13:22.220 --> 01:13:27.619 Dakota. Basically, yeah. Yes. What the ever loving 01:13:27.619 --> 01:13:34.079 fuck? How is that appropriate or acceptable to 01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:37.880 say about your daughter? By the way, your stepdaughter. 01:13:38.539 --> 01:13:41.539 I also and I'm just going to say this and I will 01:13:41.539 --> 01:13:44.380 not be cutting this. I want an investigation 01:13:44.380 --> 01:13:47.060 into where this man was on January 6th because 01:13:47.060 --> 01:13:49.920 I have some theories about this man because he 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:54.100 just has that look about him. I just hate him. 01:13:54.729 --> 01:13:58.369 I hated to see that. Before that happens, we 01:13:58.369 --> 01:14:01.630 find out that Taylor's mom is just a monster. 01:14:01.750 --> 01:14:05.850 Like, so you show up and we find out she has 01:14:05.850 --> 01:14:08.850 a pattern of continuing to be friends with people 01:14:08.850 --> 01:14:11.840 that have been. horrific to taylor to be their 01:14:11.840 --> 01:14:14.779 realtor to be their realtor to say well they've 01:14:14.779 --> 01:14:17.319 always been nice to me which i don't like that 01:14:17.319 --> 01:14:20.699 weird that is so weird that's like someone bullying 01:14:20.699 --> 01:14:23.060 jack at school and me still wanting to be friends 01:14:23.060 --> 01:14:27.739 with them yes that's weird that's not and She 01:14:27.739 --> 01:14:30.539 also says something to the effect of, oh, so 01:14:30.539 --> 01:14:31.920 you're going to this Halloween party that I'm 01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:33.920 not invited to. Why would you be invited to this 01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:36.060 Halloween party? She loves to stick her little 01:14:36.060 --> 01:14:37.680 head where it doesn't belong. You remember when 01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:39.539 she called Whitney for not coming to the baby 01:14:39.539 --> 01:14:42.560 shower last season? Yes. She has another episode 01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:46.060 even worse than that. God. Episode 10, last episode 01:14:46.060 --> 01:14:48.079 of this season. I can't wait for you to see it. 01:14:48.199 --> 01:14:52.199 It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. And I feel 01:14:52.199 --> 01:14:54.779 for Taylor because like, how do you even reel 01:14:54.779 --> 01:14:57.100 that in? You don't because let me tell you what 01:14:57.100 --> 01:14:59.520 this is. This was the theory that I mentioned 01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:04.340 earlier. This screams, I have a complex and I've 01:15:04.340 --> 01:15:06.060 been in competition with my beautiful daughter 01:15:06.060 --> 01:15:09.659 for her entire existence. That is what this is. 01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:12.520 And that's a very common thing that I see a lot, 01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:17.039 especially in pretty girls. Their moms are so 01:15:17.039 --> 01:15:21.680 jealous of them, which is sick because why couldn't 01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:25.319 you just sit back and be like, wow. I made something 01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:28.319 so beautiful and perfect and I'm so proud of 01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:32.500 myself. And find that happiness in the fact that 01:15:32.500 --> 01:15:37.180 you created your daughter. But instead you decide 01:15:37.180 --> 01:15:40.960 to turn that on its head and be jealous and even 01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:45.300 vindictive towards your daughter is so strange. 01:15:45.739 --> 01:15:48.819 Anyway. Dakota shows up and it's as awkward as 01:15:48.819 --> 01:15:51.359 the day is long. They all sit down at the table. 01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:54.619 Taylor's brother is not unattractive until he 01:15:54.619 --> 01:15:56.319 opens his mouth. I'm just going to say that. 01:15:56.479 --> 01:15:59.720 I didn't think he was cute, but here we are. 01:16:00.180 --> 01:16:03.319 Yeah, I'm not going to yuck your yum. Appreciate 01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:06.079 it. But Taylor is just not thrilled to be there. 01:16:06.260 --> 01:16:08.960 And she's got her hood up. She's like sitting 01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:12.039 in the corner and like and then Taylor's mom 01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:15.199 goes, why are you so closed off? Shut up. Shut 01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:19.199 up. Just what do you think? You invite her ex 01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:23.359 kind of situation to your house. Yeah. That's 01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:27.180 so strange. Can you imagine if your parents hosted 01:16:27.180 --> 01:16:30.119 a cookout and invited your ex to come? Like, 01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:34.140 I don't get that. I would leave and that would 01:16:34.140 --> 01:16:36.340 be the last time I spoke to my family. I'm telling 01:16:36.340 --> 01:16:38.539 you right now. They were weird for inviting Dakota. 01:16:38.859 --> 01:16:40.680 They're weird for the way they talk to Taylor. 01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:44.319 The mom's weird for wanting to look like Taylor, 01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:46.880 and the stepdad's weird for thinking Taylor's 01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:50.319 a whore. Yes. They're all weird. The only one 01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:52.979 of them that I truly respect on a deep level 01:16:52.979 --> 01:16:56.100 is Taylor's sister. I agree, because she said, 01:16:56.340 --> 01:16:58.079 listen, if it's meant to be, it's meant to be. 01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:01.119 If it's not, it's not. She picked up the baby, 01:17:01.260 --> 01:17:03.720 so the baby didn't have to be there for the fallout. 01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:08.180 Right. I think she's the only one that is genuinely... 01:17:08.970 --> 01:17:12.310 Just team Taylor. Yes. She's not she doesn't 01:17:12.310 --> 01:17:15.130 have her own side of the story that she thinks 01:17:15.130 --> 01:17:17.850 she should sell. She doesn't like her mom does. 01:17:18.090 --> 01:17:22.090 She doesn't have she's not competing with Taylor 01:17:22.090 --> 01:17:25.529 in any sense of the word. She's just there for 01:17:25.529 --> 01:17:28.390 her. I also feel like she's not gunning to be 01:17:28.390 --> 01:17:30.930 on reality television. I think she's not fighting 01:17:30.930 --> 01:17:33.409 for that spot. Right. And I think she's secure 01:17:33.409 --> 01:17:35.210 in herself. And I think that's what we're seeing 01:17:35.210 --> 01:17:38.199 play out here is that. Right. That's why she's 01:17:38.199 --> 01:17:40.600 not an ass. Love her or hate her. She is just 01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:43.600 being there for her sister. Right. And she's 01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:47.399 OK with that being her personality on TV because 01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:50.439 she's not a member of the show. Taylor's mom 01:17:50.439 --> 01:17:54.739 does not understand that. We go to Jen's house. 01:17:55.760 --> 01:18:01.600 Jen says in her interview. That she believes 01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:03.300 that the resentment that the girls have towards 01:18:03.300 --> 01:18:05.520 her is because of Zach. And then Zach walks in 01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:09.479 and explains, no, no. The reason that the girls 01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:11.180 have resentment towards me is because of you. 01:18:11.600 --> 01:18:15.979 Right. And you can tell Jen felt uncomfortable 01:18:15.979 --> 01:18:20.300 in the fact that like Zach, she got aired out 01:18:20.300 --> 01:18:22.560 to her own husband. Like you can tell that that 01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:26.930 is like infringing on her. But it's like you're 01:18:26.930 --> 01:18:29.770 the one who set up that whole mess. Like you're 01:18:29.770 --> 01:18:32.189 the one who set up him meeting with just your 01:18:32.189 --> 01:18:35.449 friends. So like I could have seen that coming 01:18:35.449 --> 01:18:39.909 from a mile away. Then I don't know that there 01:18:39.909 --> 01:18:41.609 wasn't a lot there. They decide that they're 01:18:41.609 --> 01:18:43.869 all going to meet together again. We cut to Jesse's 01:18:43.869 --> 01:18:46.449 house where Christ almighty, they decide they're 01:18:46.449 --> 01:18:49.869 going to do the Chippendales thing again. I don't 01:18:49.869 --> 01:18:53.800 want to ruin it for you. There's tea to that 01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:56.279 that you don't know yet that when you find out, 01:18:56.300 --> 01:18:59.939 you're like, wait, what? Like. Does it come in 01:18:59.939 --> 01:19:03.359 the next episode? I hope so. Because I don't 01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:06.479 want to ruin it for you. Then Whitney and her 01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:08.680 husband are out running around buying pajamas. 01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:11.140 This was a non scene to remind us that Whitney 01:19:11.140 --> 01:19:15.439 is still on the show. I just I and I hope that 01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:17.140 I end up being wrong about Whitney because I 01:19:17.140 --> 01:19:20.630 feel like I'm being really mean to her. I'm not 01:19:20.630 --> 01:19:22.630 interested in her story. I'm not interested in 01:19:22.630 --> 01:19:25.649 her at all. I think she is so boring. And she, 01:19:25.710 --> 01:19:30.689 when she's not boring, she's giving catty. She's 01:19:30.689 --> 01:19:34.810 giving like angry almost. I don't know. I've 01:19:34.810 --> 01:19:38.949 never really. And once I hear, once you hear 01:19:38.949 --> 01:19:42.869 Michaela's stance on Whitney and her individual 01:19:42.869 --> 01:19:48.149 problem with Whitney. It made me it like validated 01:19:48.149 --> 01:19:51.149 me and not liking her. Like I'm standing behind. 01:19:52.329 --> 01:19:54.789 I'm standing behind her in that because the way 01:19:54.789 --> 01:19:57.890 she treated her was not Michaela. I mean, the 01:19:57.890 --> 01:20:01.489 way she treated Michaela was not what you would 01:20:01.489 --> 01:20:03.829 expect from a friend ever because they were like 01:20:03.829 --> 01:20:08.369 actual friends. So anyway. Anyway, we're almost 01:20:08.369 --> 01:20:10.710 at the end, friends. Yeah, we're almost there. 01:20:11.609 --> 01:20:13.569 We have another conversation with Zach and the 01:20:13.569 --> 01:20:17.789 girls and Jen is there and Jen is outed for being 01:20:17.789 --> 01:20:21.149 a rotten liar and she's upset and she's questioning 01:20:21.149 --> 01:20:25.829 the girl's allegiance. And I was just like, I 01:20:25.829 --> 01:20:27.930 saw what was happening because we've had friends 01:20:27.930 --> 01:20:29.989 do this before where like they get confronted 01:20:29.989 --> 01:20:31.750 with something and then they just start talking 01:20:31.750 --> 01:20:33.229 and talking and talking and talking and talking 01:20:33.229 --> 01:20:35.310 and talking and they won't let anyone get a word 01:20:35.310 --> 01:20:37.829 in edgewise. And this is where you're like, oh. 01:20:38.489 --> 01:20:40.630 You don't want us to talk because you don't know 01:20:40.630 --> 01:20:43.689 what you've told one person or the other or worse. 01:20:43.810 --> 01:20:45.670 You do know what you told one person or the other 01:20:45.670 --> 01:20:47.829 and you don't want it to come out. Yeah. Yes. 01:20:47.890 --> 01:20:53.210 I do feel like Jen was in a corner and like she 01:20:53.210 --> 01:20:56.130 didn't know how to get out. Yes. And so she was 01:20:56.130 --> 01:21:00.029 just trying to find a way out of that situation 01:21:00.029 --> 01:21:02.470 without looking like a horrible villain. Yes. 01:21:02.829 --> 01:21:05.819 And. I don't know that she really accomplished 01:21:05.819 --> 01:21:08.560 that. She didn't. So Jen gets called out for 01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:12.640 the you were never there for me comment. And 01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:15.600 the girls go, we have text. We can show you where 01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:18.920 we texted you. And it comes out. Well, you didn't 01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:21.899 text us back for like four or five days. If Jen 01:21:21.899 --> 01:21:24.359 would, because this is what I will buy was happening. 01:21:24.539 --> 01:21:28.300 I believe Jen was incredibly depressed. She was 01:21:28.300 --> 01:21:31.659 in a dark place. And when you get deeper into 01:21:31.659 --> 01:21:34.720 the season. You almost get confirmation of that 01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:37.039 without getting real confirmation of that. I 01:21:37.039 --> 01:21:40.399 think she was in a place we've all been in where 01:21:40.399 --> 01:21:43.520 she mentally could not handle talking about it. 01:21:43.539 --> 01:21:46.100 She couldn't even talk to the people who were 01:21:46.100 --> 01:21:50.600 involved. I think she just had to take that time. 01:21:52.260 --> 01:21:55.180 And you'll kind of see that happen. And if she 01:21:55.180 --> 01:21:58.659 would have just said that in this moment. Yeah. 01:21:58.720 --> 01:22:00.859 She would have been fine. I do think there might 01:22:00.859 --> 01:22:04.680 be some kind of stigma around mental health. 01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:10.319 In the church. Yeah. Yes. And so I think until 01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:13.119 she really has to come to terms with it, she 01:22:13.119 --> 01:22:16.720 didn't want to say that. I think she just like 01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:18.359 kind of froze in that moment and didn't know 01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:20.220 what to say. And I think we've all been there, 01:22:20.239 --> 01:22:24.430 too, where it's like. As someone with depression, 01:22:24.710 --> 01:22:27.090 like saying you were depressed doesn't feel like 01:22:27.090 --> 01:22:29.810 enough. Like you still feel like you're a bad 01:22:29.810 --> 01:22:32.750 person for not answering your friends. And so 01:22:32.750 --> 01:22:35.689 it's like I kind of understand where she's coming 01:22:35.689 --> 01:22:39.649 from. I do think she could have been a better 01:22:39.649 --> 01:22:43.869 friend to them in that time. And like at least 01:22:43.869 --> 01:22:47.090 said, I'm going through it. I'm sorry if I'm 01:22:47.090 --> 01:22:49.390 not replying type of thing. Like at least like 01:22:49.390 --> 01:22:53.039 communicate that. And then they gave her the 01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:57.880 perfect platform to just say that. And I don't 01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:03.260 know why she couldn't. Zach makes Jen be honest 01:23:03.260 --> 01:23:05.979 about the gambling away his medical school tuition. 01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:10.439 And I was like, ooh, she didn't like this. She 01:23:10.439 --> 01:23:13.840 was really petty about that. I don't know. I 01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:16.689 think she just. wanted to hurt Zach the way that 01:23:16.689 --> 01:23:19.470 Zach hurt her. She thought her marriage was over. 01:23:19.829 --> 01:23:21.670 She thought her marriage was over. Let's just 01:23:21.670 --> 01:23:23.970 be real about that. I think she just wanted to 01:23:23.970 --> 01:23:27.649 tear at him. And you know what? She got it in 01:23:27.649 --> 01:23:30.149 there, you know, and it was a lie and it came 01:23:30.149 --> 01:23:33.329 out. And I think she, at least she did own that. 01:23:33.430 --> 01:23:35.270 Didn't she? Where she was like, Oh yeah, well 01:23:35.270 --> 01:23:37.810 that wasn't true. Yeah. Cause Zach made her. 01:23:37.850 --> 01:23:41.909 Yeah. Yeah. Can you imagine sitting there with 01:23:41.909 --> 01:23:44.810 your husband and being like, And him being like, 01:23:44.869 --> 01:23:48.449 I wish you would just be honest about this because 01:23:48.449 --> 01:23:51.989 this is uncomfortable for everyone. Yeah, that's 01:23:51.989 --> 01:23:55.590 tough. Well, it's hard. Like if you're going 01:23:55.590 --> 01:23:57.890 through it with someone and you start being petty 01:23:57.890 --> 01:24:01.270 and mean to them and about them and then you 01:24:01.270 --> 01:24:03.569 have to own that. I can see that being like a 01:24:03.569 --> 01:24:06.770 hard pill to swallow to be like, yeah, I was 01:24:06.770 --> 01:24:11.069 being a bitch. Sorry. Christ. You know? Yes. 01:24:11.210 --> 01:24:15.670 I don't. Yeah. Okay. So we move on to that just 01:24:15.670 --> 01:24:18.710 for them to chip and Dale our girl. Well, so 01:24:18.710 --> 01:24:20.930 before that, Jen's getting ready for the Halloween 01:24:20.930 --> 01:24:24.170 party and she's obsessed with being related to 01:24:24.170 --> 01:24:27.489 Ben Affleck. You have to see how this plays out 01:24:27.489 --> 01:24:29.569 on the show. You have to see how it plays out 01:24:29.569 --> 01:24:31.949 on the show. Is it chaotic? It's a whole thing. 01:24:32.350 --> 01:24:36.670 The reason she's bringing it up is because Zach 01:24:36.670 --> 01:24:39.390 wants her to stop saying it. He says that in 01:24:39.390 --> 01:24:42.220 the show. He says. I didn't know if you had seen 01:24:42.220 --> 01:24:44.680 that yet. Yeah. He says, I wish she would stop 01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:46.960 saying that because I don't think it's true. 01:24:47.100 --> 01:24:50.220 He said he said it's been a joke for years in 01:24:50.220 --> 01:24:54.640 the family. So, yeah, I mean, I get it because 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:57.779 she comes back and is like that. But but like 01:24:57.779 --> 01:25:00.920 it wasn't a joke when your family members were 01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:04.960 telling me that. Yes. And like I. I don't know 01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:08.100 if she's like I would see how she'd be obsessed 01:25:08.100 --> 01:25:10.380 with being related to Ben Affleck. But I think 01:25:10.380 --> 01:25:13.180 it also comes from a place of, again, like insecurity 01:25:13.180 --> 01:25:17.119 and embarrassment where she's like, I said this 01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:21.500 for so long and so loud. Yes. That like, please 01:25:21.500 --> 01:25:25.579 don't out me now. You know, like if you just 01:25:25.579 --> 01:25:27.840 stop saying it, it stops being right. If you 01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:30.920 just like never say Ben Affleck again, it will 01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.829 never come up again. But also. No one cares. 01:25:34.350 --> 01:25:38.010 No, I don't think anyone has ever cared. I just 01:25:38.010 --> 01:25:41.010 found out the other day that one of Kenny's friends 01:25:41.010 --> 01:25:45.729 is related to CeeLo Green, who I love. Right. 01:25:45.869 --> 01:25:48.909 It does not change the way I see Kenny's friend 01:25:48.909 --> 01:25:51.930 in his life. No, not at all. So they all show 01:25:51.930 --> 01:25:53.550 up to Jesse's house for the Halloween party. 01:25:54.810 --> 01:25:58.409 So Jordan's going to be Ben Affleck. Jesse looks 01:25:58.409 --> 01:26:02.360 incredible as J -Lo. Can I just say? Johnny. 01:26:02.360 --> 01:26:06.380 God damn. And they unfortunately ate Jen and 01:26:06.380 --> 01:26:09.460 Zach up. Well, I have that later in my notes 01:26:09.460 --> 01:26:12.460 that they objectively look better. Oh, yeah. 01:26:12.579 --> 01:26:15.000 Well, I think Jen tried to be this whole Jenny 01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:17.300 from the block situation. Is that what she was 01:26:17.300 --> 01:26:20.220 being? I think so. Christ. I didn't like it. 01:26:20.220 --> 01:26:23.159 It didn't play out well. Taylor shows up as Gretchen 01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:26.520 Wieners as a cat. Macy and Jacob show up as Regina 01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:32.939 and. Aaron Samuels. Michaela and Jace show up 01:26:32.939 --> 01:26:36.720 as Karen in the burn book. Demi is Fruity Pebbles 01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:40.239 and Brett is Milk. Yeah, that was a weird costume. 01:26:40.920 --> 01:26:43.460 Brett is so hot, though. Yeah, Brett is really 01:26:43.460 --> 01:26:46.159 hot. If I look like him at 47, that's all I want. 01:26:47.930 --> 01:26:50.409 Then Jen and Zach also show up as J -Lo and Ben 01:26:50.409 --> 01:26:52.710 Affleck. And that was hard. That was really, 01:26:52.729 --> 01:26:56.390 really hard. Dakota shows up as the bus that 01:26:56.390 --> 01:26:59.189 hits Regina Jordan, which I thought was actually 01:26:59.189 --> 01:27:04.890 really funny. Yeah. Then Miranda's ex -husband 01:27:04.890 --> 01:27:07.829 Chase shows up without a costume and he. He's 01:27:07.829 --> 01:27:11.930 supposed to be Justin Bieber. Did he say that? 01:27:12.069 --> 01:27:15.250 They say it like in the show at some point, but 01:27:15.250 --> 01:27:18.300 he doesn't look like Justin Bieber. Oh. I just 01:27:18.300 --> 01:27:19.979 thought he was being a douchebag and I was so 01:27:19.979 --> 01:27:24.600 into it. I was into it. Really? Oh, yeah. I think 01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:28.600 he's cute. I think he is so hot. I think he's 01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:31.600 cute. And if anything, that makes sense because 01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:35.220 Miranda is stunning. I think. I think she's so 01:27:35.220 --> 01:27:37.479 beautiful. And so Chase is kind of a match for 01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:40.220 that. I am glad that they're broken up, though. 01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:46.680 Yes. Anyway. Yeah. We get to. Chase and Dakota 01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:51.420 start there. They're talking and they're like, 01:27:51.420 --> 01:27:53.260 I don't see why we hate each other. And then 01:27:53.260 --> 01:27:58.560 Taylor confronts them. And apparently the lowest 01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:01.920 point in Chase's life was when Taylor outed everyone 01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.319 for being swingers. And I'm like, why'd you do 01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:07.020 it? Why'd you do it? Right. How is that the lowest 01:28:07.020 --> 01:28:09.699 point in your life? This kind of comes back later 01:28:09.699 --> 01:28:12.340 in the season with someone else where it's like. 01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.979 You've really never gone through anything before 01:28:15.979 --> 01:28:22.439 in your life ever. No. Like, what? And I do understand 01:28:22.439 --> 01:28:28.579 Taylor's problem with the whole thing. You didn't 01:28:28.579 --> 01:28:32.520 get to the second half of the episode, so I won't, 01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:36.460 like... But you saw most of the confrontation 01:28:36.460 --> 01:28:41.340 already. It does get worse. Good. Taylor has 01:28:41.340 --> 01:28:44.500 a problem with the fact that Dakota didn't stand 01:28:44.500 --> 01:28:47.539 up for her. I that started to come out at the 01:28:47.539 --> 01:28:50.840 end of this episode. And I fully agree with her. 01:28:50.939 --> 01:28:53.479 I do, too. And I totally see where she's coming 01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:57.840 from. I do see like the she could have just been 01:28:57.840 --> 01:29:01.699 chill at a Halloween party thing. But also Dakota 01:29:01.699 --> 01:29:03.760 is supposed to be trying to win her back. He's 01:29:03.760 --> 01:29:06.680 supposedly so in love with her. But the second 01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:08.939 he gets a chance to not be on her side, he's 01:29:08.939 --> 01:29:13.029 not on her side. I agree. We close out the episode 01:29:13.029 --> 01:29:15.350 with the guys upstairs practicing their Chippendale 01:29:15.350 --> 01:29:19.369 dance. We find out Jordan does not have an ounce 01:29:19.369 --> 01:29:23.029 of sex appeal. Or, like, maybe it's a confidence 01:29:23.029 --> 01:29:25.409 thing. I don't know. Or maybe he's just uncomfortable. 01:29:25.710 --> 01:29:27.510 I don't know. I don't know. But, like, he is 01:29:27.510 --> 01:29:30.050 so awkward about it. And, like, standing next 01:29:30.050 --> 01:29:35.250 to... Brett, who's, like, so in his sexual bath. 01:29:35.369 --> 01:29:38.470 Yes, and a literal Chippendale dancer. Yeah, 01:29:38.470 --> 01:29:41.949 right. Like, what is one to do with that? It 01:29:41.949 --> 01:29:46.050 was funny to watch. I kind of see, like, I think 01:29:46.050 --> 01:29:48.270 he and Jesse are actually really cute together. 01:29:48.409 --> 01:29:49.609 I think they're adorable together. I can see 01:29:49.609 --> 01:29:51.789 that, like, behind closed doors, they are, like, 01:29:51.810 --> 01:29:54.010 a perfect lovey -dovey match. You know what I 01:29:54.010 --> 01:29:55.869 mean? I think he just doesn't know what to do 01:29:55.869 --> 01:29:57.670 with that in real life, though, because the church. 01:29:57.869 --> 01:30:00.210 Right. Yeah, 100%. And he, like, doesn't know 01:30:00.210 --> 01:30:01.510 what's appropriate and what's not, especially 01:30:01.510 --> 01:30:05.760 when you're dealing with Jen. Yes. And then the 01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:08.000 cops show up and that's where we leave the episode. 01:30:08.180 --> 01:30:12.239 Yeah. So you get more tea the next episode about 01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:16.060 exactly what's happening, obviously. But I think 01:30:16.060 --> 01:30:22.560 I want you to notice Miranda and how she deals 01:30:22.560 --> 01:30:26.020 with Chase in the next episode, because that's 01:30:26.020 --> 01:30:28.420 like where I actually grew an opinion about Miranda 01:30:28.420 --> 01:30:30.960 and was like, oh, I like you. Interesting. And 01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:37.409 also Taylor. It does go off the rails, but has 01:30:37.409 --> 01:30:43.050 a point. And the cops showing up. Neither here 01:30:43.050 --> 01:30:47.770 nor there. So that brings us to the end of another 01:30:47.770 --> 01:30:49.630 episode of Bestie Approved. This was the longest 01:30:49.630 --> 01:30:54.409 one so far. This is a good episode. We had so 01:30:54.409 --> 01:30:57.109 much reality TV to catch up on. We did. And I 01:30:57.109 --> 01:31:01.250 think this is going to be. I like this. I think 01:31:01.250 --> 01:31:05.600 this is fun. Thank you for listening. We love 01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:07.560 you. Tell your messiest friend about us. But 01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:10.800 before we go, I want to give a shout out to my 01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:14.819 friend Jack, who, as you all know, is Emma's 01:31:14.819 --> 01:31:18.699 pride and joy of a son. And he sat with us for 01:31:18.699 --> 01:31:21.600 probably 75 percent of this episode. And he was 01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:23.739 so incredible and he was so supportive and he 01:31:23.739 --> 01:31:26.720 was such a good listener. And I appreciate him 01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:29.159 being here. So thank you so much. We love you, 01:31:29.180 --> 01:31:33.250 Jack. Do you have anything to say to the listeners? 01:31:33.630 --> 01:31:35.369 You want to say something on the podcast? You 01:31:35.369 --> 01:31:39.250 want to say something to the besties? Hello, 01:31:39.409 --> 01:31:45.789 bestie. It's me, Jack. That's perfect. And my 01:31:45.789 --> 01:31:49.270 mom is the best and I love her the best day. 01:31:50.649 --> 01:31:53.810 I love you so much. And I don't know a better 01:31:53.810 --> 01:31:55.630 way to close the episode. Tell your messiest 01:31:55.630 --> 01:31:59.680 friends about us. Follow us everywhere. Listen 01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:01.979 to us wherever you get podcasts. We love you. 01:32:02.239 --> 01:32:05.619 And thank you. See you next week.