Hi, I'm Travis. And I'm Emma. And this is Bestie
Approved. What's the last song you listened to?
I was literally about to ask you that. I was
going to find it. Mine was Check Yes Juliet by
We The Kings. That was a good one. Yeah. Mine
was Lift You Up by Jessie Ware and Romy. Something
dancey. How are we doing? What are we doing?
What are we doing? You tell me. What's on your
mind today? So tomorrow, I'll be 14 weeks pregnant.
How's that going? And honestly, it's fine. Like,
I'm fine, right? But my gums are swollen, and
we had an incident. With the toilet seat. Okay,
so here's the deal. I was getting ready this
past weekend and I go to go pee as one does.
And I noticed that where one would sit on my
toilet seat. is blue and I know it can't have
been blue for very long because I clean every
room in the house gets cleaned once a week so
like it hasn't been that long but I was just
dumbfounded because like I couldn't wipe it off
because I was thinking maybe like we got new
pants and like the dye stuck to our skin which
stuck to the toilet seat that was my initial
hypothesis but then i couldn't wipe it off and
that like washes off really easily typically
so against my better judgment i resort to the
chat gpt because you can't just look up blue
toilet seat it's gonna just try to sell you blue
toilet seat right anyway so i'm like Hi, ChatGPT,
my toilet seat is blue. What could that possibly
be from? It's turning blue. And it said, a toilet
seat turning blue, especially mysteriously such
as this, can definitely be surprising. Here are
the most common explanations and number one,
number one on the list. hormones especially during
pregnancy what it says this is the most common
and well -documented reason what what what what
what it says something about increased hormone
levels react with certain materials in the toilet
seat that cause it to turn blue or purple it's
sometimes called chrome hydrosis when sweat reacts
with surfaces and can cause color changes what
in the Can you imagine if that's how you found
out you were pregnant, though? Like, if you didn't
already know, and, like, you just Googled, why
is the toilet seat blue? You're just like, everywhere
I go, I'm leaving a blue toilet seat. I'm a smurf.
Can you imagine? What if we were still working
in our old office where, like, all the girls
shared a bathroom and all the boys shared a bathroom,
and one day someone's like, why the fuck is the
toilet seat blue? Oh, my God. And I have to be
like, oh, my God. Anyway, so. Basically, I've
turned into a Martian because my sense of smell
is something out of a comic book. Like I'm a
superhero and I'm turning shit blue. So that's
where we are in pregnancy. I'm so happy to be
here with you. My God. It makes me so happy.
So you and I have an obsession with notebooks,
right? Yeah, you really have an obsession with
all things... School supplies. Stationery. Yeah,
anything you can find in an office depot. So,
do you ever do the thing where you buy a notebook
because you have this, like, vision of who you
want to be? Literally, no. Seriously? No, no.
I get off, like, I would actually come to...
finishing off a notebook and so i have notebooks
that have been because i also do this thing where
i buy like 13 notebooks at a time it's a problem
okay like when i buy notebooks i buy 50 of them
right but i i still have some laying around from
probably five years ago because it's not done
until like it's full and i'll just fill it with
anything i'm one of those people that gets like
super dramatic and will like schedule what my
day should look like every single day like with
time stamps and everything and so I'll like have
a million of iterations of those and I'll like
journal I'll do this I'll do that it's like very
incoherent I hope no one ever finds my notebooks
ever sure but no I don't I I love the idea of
those notebooks that are like just the dots.
People were doing those forever. What are those
called? Those are bullet journal. Yeah. I love
those. If I were an organized lass, I would have
a bullet journal. And I think they're beautiful
and people are really creative with them. And
I like the idea, but I just don't, I don't have
it in me. So I get, um. emails because I signed
up for the email list from the stationery company
on TikTok called Bungu and there's this notebook
that they sent me and it's it's just a notebook
it's like it's fine it's $105 and I want it so
bad $105 is it 5 ,000 pages um it's 700 and 700
something let me see It's 730 pages. It is a
two -year notebook. What in the fuck makes it
$105? The aesthetic, I think. Bungie, please
sponsor the podcast. You're paying north of a
dollar a page, mama. What? You're paying more
than a dollar per page in the notebook. No, you're
not. Yes, you are. It's 70 pages and $100. 700
pages. Did I say 70? No. Pregnancy brain. Okay,
now we know. Okay, I feel a lot better, but not
really. oh my god a hundred dollars never never
in my life and you can write this one down i
will never spend a hundred dollars on a notebook
ever i would i'd be happy to spend a hundred
dollars on a notebook but um bunk you please
sponsor the podcast please god we actually need
it at this point it will be a financial emergency
if you don't sponsor the podcast so i spent last
week most of the day with you on thursday um
yeah and so you left and i spent all of my time
online as i always do oh i didn't at all right
um i went home and i started editing the podcast
and i went to bed i woke up the next morning
and i found out the girls were fighting which
sparked a new series that i would like to call
mama let's research Because I went down a deep
rabbit hole of the Donald Trump, Elon Musk timeline
of their feud. So Friday, May 30th. So the Friday
before last week was Elon Musk's final day as
a special government employee at Doge because
he wanted to find fraud, waste and abuse that.
He promised to save, what, like $20 billion,
and we got nothing out of it. It's fine. They
have a press conference. Donald Trump is talking
about how Elon Musk's a genius and how the work
of Doge will continue. He gave Elon Musk a key,
and it's a gift that he reserves for, quote,
very special people, and Elon Musk said it was
amazing. It was compliments, compliments, compliments.
Trump said that Doge employees are geniuses and
everything is great and they're best friends.
They're happy. I don't know where Elon Musk goes,
but he leaves the White House. He's not a government
employee anymore. He proceeds to take to Twitter
where he calls the great big beautiful bill an
abomination. And to be fair to Elon Musk, his
whole thing was like, we're going to cut government
spending. big, beautiful bill is going to add
$2 .4 trillion to the deficit. So I get that.
And Moody's was the last holdout for the United
States perfect credit rating. And back in May,
they downgraded our credit. Can I just ask a
question? What the fuck was his title? What gave
him the right to be in the White House? a part
of he was basically a part of the cabinet like
i'm so confused that is a great question that
no one's really been able to answer for me did
he just decide one day i am a billionaire i am
in charge of all of these things and so now it's
my turn to go in the white house ring -a -ling
-ling donnie please let me in there under the
guise of cutting spending like what and also
Didn't we get confirmation that he was on ketamine
the whole time? Like he was fucked up the whole
time he was there. I mean, he said that he was
taking ketamine. Yes. Yeah. So he was tranquilized.
Take ketamine. I don't care. I am all for. Let
me just put it on the record. I'm all for a little
ketamine drip. Don't get me wrong. Don't get
me wrong. Right. But also, do I think you need
to be in the White House in your K -hole? I think
you need to be at the club. Or in the safety
of your home. Maybe. Or at the doctor's office.
Anywhere without cameras? Really? Probably. Somewhere
safe. Oh, my God. He donated, what, $300 million
to Trump's campaign, and that's what gave him
the authority to be a special government employee.
That's fine. Oh, I'm so happy. Okay. So, calls
the, or tweets that the Great Big Beautiful Bill
is a disgusting abomination. Elon Musk, the spending
bill contains the largest increase in the debt
ceiling in U .S. history. It is the debt slavery
bill. And then the U .S. Joint Economic Committee
reports that the total gross national debt as
of June 4th was $36 .21 trillion, which is a
$1 .5 trillion year -over -year increase and
a $10 .29 trillion increase from five years ago.
There's a lot going on there as far as debt goes.
And then the following day, Elon Musk wakes up
and he's just, he's having a time. He chooses
violence. So he starts digging up old tweets
from Donald Trump talking about like how the
government's spending money and he's like using
it as like receipts. Like, oh, I couldn't agree
more, Donald. Like, what's good? Like, what are
we doing? And then... Donald Trump responds at
this press conference that he's at saying it's
some sort of Trump derangement syndrome and that
Elon Musk woke up one morning and the glamour
was gone. And like that says to me like, oh,
you believe that being in the Trump administration
is glamorous and that's fine. I hate to polarize
our crowd here. But yeah, if you support Donald
Trump in any way, shape, or form, I would argue
you are delusional and under the guise of a cult.
But anyway. So then, Trump says that Elon Musk
knew about everything in the bill from the very
beginning. and Elon Musk comes back and says
this is false, which is, I know it's a stretch
to think that Donald Trump could say anything
false, but here we go. So Elon's little thumbs
get right to work, and he starts unloading tweets
directed at Trump. So the exact quote was, without
me, Trump would have lost the election, Democrats
would control the House, and Republicans would
be 51 -49 in the Senate. And then, an hour later,
He tweets the infamous tweet alleging that the
real reason the Epstein files haven't been released
is because Trump's name shows up on them. Which
we already knew. I was so confused by that. We
already knew that. They were friends. We have
pictures of him with the man himself. We have
pictures of him with Maxine. We have pictures.
We've had pictures of the flight logs. Who's
Maxine? Ghislaine. Ghislaine Maxwell. My brain's
doing funny things today. My brain is like close
enough to anything. You can convince me of anything
today. That's actually hilarious. I guess he
regretted saying that because then he starts.
feeling nostalgic about his time with his best
friend he starts talking about or he starts responding
to tweets that say this is a shame you guys are
better than this like and he's like oh no i couldn't
agree more and like he starts kind of rolling
back some of what he said and then what's her
face laura loomer says to elon musk like a parent
who's like trying to get two kids to apologize
to each other please tweet something nice about
trump tonight oh please and the way that you
gunned to my head you couldn't get me to tweet
that like in public i i that that was a wild
thing to say but like mind you the man owns twitter
and you're telling him please tweet but like
can you imagine being like being laura loomer
and like deciding i'm the one to broker peace
between donald trump and elon musk like everyone
in their little circle has a god complex like
everyone yes that associates with them thinks
that they are the almighty power and that they
can control anyone and so yeah she thought she
was mommy but if you ever want if you ever just
need to have a time on twitter start scrolling
through some of the replies to those tweets because
like it is the most toxic uncomfortable place
i've ever been in my life to the point where
like i started getting pushed tweets from like
all right maga and i was like i don't i i'm gonna
delete no yeah they're deluded and they're crazy
on twitter because they think no one can find
out who they are it's the wild west yeah they
are riding that dick for real it is insane anyway
so Then Steve Bannon says that the federal government
should, quote, initiate a formal investigation
of Elon Musk's immigration status, because that's
what we need to make this about right now. Like,
this is going to speak to a point that I have
in a minute. So the next day, Donald Trump says
he isn't thinking about Elon Musk. He's letting
us know that. Great. it's so toxic x yeah girl
i'm not even thinking about him today i haven't
even thought about him today and then later that
day on air force one he reminds us that he's
not thinking about i hope he does well with tesla
oh my god and then he decides he's getting rid
of his tesla that he was gifted on the front
lawn of the white house oh i forgot about that
I just, I cannot. Like, it's so Pride Month.
It's so, oh. So he's getting rid of the Tesla
that he was gifted on the front lawn. Elon Musk
goes and he deletes a bunch of the tweets. And
then Trump says he has no desire to fix the relationship.
Fine. Great. MAGA gets involved, though. And
you know how they talk about constantly, like,
the left is trying to. project their gender ideologies
on everything so jesse waters is talking about
this is how men fight you do this and then you
go have sex with your girlfriend after that what's
the big deal and then you've got some of the
worst people on god's green earth talking about
how some of you guys can't handle two high agency
males going at it and it really shows and this
is a direct wait this is direct communication
it's fallow centric Versus indirect communication,
which is gynocentric. I understand you all aren't
used to it. And then another one says Trump and
Elon aren't attacking one another in a way that
can't be fixed. People forget how men with testicles
spar. You two are watching people with balls
the size of the moon debate an issue. This is
what masculinity looks like. I do not understand
that at all. What do you mean? It's straight
white male to be petty online and tweet at each
other. What do you mean? I don't for the life
of me understand how. I don't understand why
gender got brought into it. That's beyond me.
But is it because everyone was calling them gay?
I don't think so. I don't know. But like, that's
the only reason I can think of that they were.
I just don't get it. I don't get it. I don't
get it. I don't get it. Did you see, while we're
on this, did you see the tweet? It was like the
video of Donald Trump tripping on the stairs
on the way onto Air Force One. After Donald Trump
made one of his campaign... Yes! well joe biden
tripped going up the stairs i thought the same
exact thing i was like he clowned joe biden for
that but i saw this tweet that was that said
elon turned on his vibrator i did see that but
that is god punishing you for your bad doing
your sins yeah how are you gonna make fun of
sleepy joe for tripping on the stairs and then
do the same exact thing and not even address
it i can't The whole thing's a mess. And then
the long and short of it is, is that Elon Musk
has taken a $34 billion hit to his personal net
worth, which coincidentally is also the GDP of
Iceland. Such a gross, gross thing. It's like,
it would take a lot for me to feel bad for a
billionaire. Like, a lot. Right. So my question
at the end of this for Elon Musk is, was it worth
it? Because MAGA has turned on him. You've got
far, far, far right who has turned on him. You've
got the people that want him to make up who are
saying, well, this is just how it goes. And that's
a weird middle spot to be in. But it's like the
people who supported you so deeply now hate you
because you turned on. their deity, their God,
whatever you want to call him, was it worth it?
And to me, it's like you paid $300 million or
whatever to this campaign, which immediately
turned everyone with a social conscience against
you. Every liberal or left -leaning person gave
up their Tesla, got a Rivian or whatever, right?
And now who do you have? Right. You decided to
subscribe yourself. You don't even have her.
Oh, that you decided to subscribe yourself to
the far right. And now that has gone to shit
because you whatever. So now who do you have,
Elon? Who is who is. coming for you it makes
me think of that time he did a stream and everybody
kept saying you have no friends you'll never
have friends Can you imagine being bullied in
your 50s? I can't. And when you have that much
money, you could literally just fall off the
face of the earth if you wanted to. But instead,
you decide to be in the public eye, and now literally
everyone hates you on both sides of the fence.
Right. You could tell he was feeling bad for
himself that night, though, because he started
retweeting every kind thing anyone had ever said
about him. And the way that these people act
like he is... actually a deity like they're like
he's here for the the sake of humanity you people
don't understand the amount of gratuitous like
i love you i love you and then like but he was
retweeting all that and i'm like like you could
very clearly see he's he was in his feelings
in those moments but i'm like you people are
trying to make someone with 800 billion dollars
feel better like like do you not get it he can
just check his bank account mama he'll feel fine
he he lost the gdp of iceland and he's still
a billionaire he'll be okay he will be a billionaire
until the day he dies regardless of what he does
there's literally nothing he could do that would
take away the amount of money he has like it
is such an unfathomable amount of wealth that
he has that you you should see that it's stupid
that he's in the public eye at all well that
was the fucked up thing was like i when i was
like doing research mama i was going down the
rabbit hole and i was like these numbers can't
be right that's how that's how unfathomable the
numbers were it is so insane and i don't think
the general population has a good idea of what
a billion looks like no it it's if you had a
million dollars one thousand times like That
is such an unfathomable thing that like... How
can you feel bad for this guy who's taking the
mentality of they're being mean to me. Meanwhile,
he owns Tesla. He owns SpaceX. He owns Twitter
on which you are seeing this. Can you imagine
owning a fucking spaceship? Have you been recently
to... Okay, my grandparents are snowbirds. So
they spend half the... year in florida and they
live i don't know close to coco beach i'm not
gonna dox them right they can see big planes
taking off from port canaveral yes yes they they
see the spaceship launches they like them they
send me pictures of them all the time whatever
okay i've i went to visit them last time i was
in florida and i've driven by the spacex like
compound whatever you want to call it it is insane
like it's actually insane it's so humongous there
are thousands of people working there probably
hundreds whatever but so many people who are
working there it is insane and that man owns
all of that why would you ever feel bad for him
that's the whole thing and it's like I think
this is where we've come to as a big part of
our society is you worship wealth. It's how the
Kardashians are who they are. It's how Donald
Trump got elected to be president because he's
a billionaire, so he's got to be smart, right?
That's the whole thing. And I'm like, when it
comes to this whole thing of Elon Musk is here
to save humanity, maybe, but you're hitching
your horse to the wrong wagon, man. What are
you doing? I can't believe that he's here to
save humanity. The man has billions of dollars
and is not fighting for world hunger to be resolved.
He's not fighting for immigrants rights. He's
not fighting for... Anyone who's going through
strife or struggle, he's not doing that at all.
He decided to back up a guy who backs up racist
white people. What? I just I don't I could never
feel bad for the man, you know, and I understand
to some. extent seeing the kardashians seeing
any influencer really seeing the billionaires
and being like i want to be like them i want
to live that life because it looks so glamorous
from where they're posting or where they're you
know what's on tv and whatever but i do think
we have genuinely lost as for some people a sense
of reality and and like taking pieces from what
you see online or what you see from these people
you idolize and integrating that into your life
you are like now worshiping them like they're
a god so that you can have a sliver of what they
have and i they want you to stay poor that's
what you don't understand they don't want you
to be rich like them because then they're not
special I mean, that's tea. I really think we've
lost the plot a little bit there. I think the
answer is no. It wasn't worth it for Elon Musk.
I hope, I truly hope that maybe he can redeem
himself. I don't know. Maybe he can do something.
But at the end of the day, I gotta tell you,
man, I think that this will go down in history
as... The worst mistake anyone ever made. I think
he's a clown. I think he should have never affiliated
himself with politics. I was actually just talking
about this last night. As a businessman, right?
Why would you ever associate yourself with one
political party? It feels like you're limiting
your customer base for no reason. Because it's
an incredibly short -sighted way of thinking
where you... are thinking to yourself what can
someone do for me for the next four years and
then I'll pivot in four years that's that's what
I think it is I get that like I do and I was
talking I was talking to Kenny about it and he
was like well when you really appeal to one group
of people then they're like emphatic about your
product they're telling their friends about it
and then it's like a symbol of what you believe
in whether that's right or not he wasn't like
taking their side he was just playing devil's
advocate kind of and and i and i do understand
that and i can obviously i'm getting on this
podcast and i'm saying like republicans need
to get it together their ideas are wrong blah
blah blah so like i am polarizing people too
but but i just i'm not trying to sell cars right
but the ugly other side of what kenny's talking
about is um the the fact that like yeah they're
they're so all in on you but the second you like
misstep they turn on you so quick well that's
what i'm saying liberals have already gotten
rid of their teslas and now that the republican
deity has denounced elon are the republicans
gonna do that too so then who's buying them You
see what I mean? Right. Like it seems like such
a silly thing to do to a brand for no reason.
And I've said this for years. Elon Musk is the
type of guy we were never supposed to know about.
Oh, a million percent. I wholeheartedly believe
that he's like a mysterious figure that like
people are like, who is that? It's like the Rothschilds
is what I believe it should have been. I 100
% agree. He should have been like the Rothschilds.
He should have been. like this incredible mind
that we never heard from right like he would
have gone down in history as this guy who used
his family resources to make this incredible
new thing right the tesla and then spread his
ideas and his people management whatever to spacex
and all of that and he still would have gone
down in history so i i just don't understand
why He decided to be in the public eye at all.
I just feel like he should have been this mysterious
figure no one really felt close to. But now he's
so accessible. And for what? I agree. I agree.
You want to know something I don't understand?
What's something you don't understand? Artificial
intelligence. Right. I have such a funny relationship
with her. I do understand the point of, like,
it learns based off of what it's told. Like,
it's a machine. You tell it enough things, it
spits things out. But what I don't understand
is, like... now it's come to the extent of it
can spit out a video it can it's like It can
tell you so many different things that, like,
how do you know that? Why do you know that? Right.
I don't understand. I don't understand it either.
So I was reading this article about a guy who,
and, like, he doesn't ever say what he typed
into ChatGPT, but he said that he made a huge
mistake typing something into ChatGPT that he
shouldn't have. He got a warning email from OpenAI.
His account was warned, and then he... was one
step away from being banned he asked that thing
how to build a bomb anyway well it's like i'm
just like what did he ask it like he had to it
had to be like terroristy or like um sexual predator
e maybe but he started he starts to get into
like how he couldn't sleep that night i'm like
he's laying in bed and he's googling can open
ai forgive me does chat gpt accept apology like
literally this is what he's saying in this article
and Then he says, before it cuts it off, before
the paywall goes on, I outright refuse to pay
to read this story. I'd spent months relying
on this tool. I trained my chat GPT on various
tasks, and now I've lost it all. And that's,
I think, the piece. Well, you don't like AI.
You are not a huge fan of it. No, I think it's
bad for society in general. I think it's bad
for our brains. Can I just say this man feels
like the type of guy who also used chat GPT as
his girlfriend. There have been lots of those.
I've been seeing screenshots and like pictures
of people like caught in the wild talking to
their chat GPT girlfriend about like. like literally
like a text thread you would have with a significant
other it's scary and it's weird and we we are
going to lose all of our critical thinking skills
all of our problem solving skills and all of
our social skills due to ai and its accessibility
well so i don't disagree with that because i
mean open ai has spent upwards of six and a half
billion dollars to redefine how people interact
with technology and i i think the opportunities
and applications that come with ai i think are
really incredible and i think the other side
of that that does scare me is this where this
guy is like this is this is my whole life like
this and it's it's scary to him to not have it
and i'm like where were we before and like that's
kind of the question that i have is like how
did we get to this place where we became so so
quickly reliant on it because like I don't know
if you remember like two or three years ago Chad
GPT was not that good like it would it would
outright just lie to you it would make up facts
like it and it was just kind of doing its own
thing out there and it was funny and then now
it's like It's serious. Real life. And it's a
problem. And I've already seen people on TikTok
trying to make the argument that everyone's going
to use it. So it should just be like almost the
academic standard or at least be OK with academics
to use it in an academic setting. And that is
terrifying to me. And I've said this before,
but. if it is there and you know it's there you
know you can find your answer so fast why wouldn't
you use it you're almost silly not to use it
if you know that you can answer your question
with the quickness with one prompt right versus
scouring the internet or scouring actual books
god for fucking bid and uh and so it's like I
think its existence itself and its accessibility
with no paywall, nothing like that. I know you
can pay extra for ChatGPT to do certain things
and whatever, but it's accessible to everyone.
You can use it whenever you want for whatever
you want. Basically, its very existence and the
fact that it's so accessible is terrifying to
me because it feels like... People would be silly
not to use it, but we're losing the recipe on
how to use your brain. Right. And I think if
you never critically think about anything, like
Kenny. wants to use chat gpt to come up with
our baby registry he wants to use it to make
a grocery list he wants to use it for all of
these things where i'm like your brain needs
the exercise you are going to have dementia by
the time you're 45 so i can see an argument for
like if you are building a startup or something
and you're like i genuinely don't have time to
like to grocery like to figure out what i need
from the grocery store like i can see an argument
for using it for that then But if you're just
like sitting on the couch and you're like, chat,
what should I get? Like that, that to me feels
a little scary. I don't know. I just feel like
your brain needs the exercise regardless of where
you are. I understand that like people are in
stressful situations and like it's a quick, a
band -aid thing. But like sometimes you have
to slow down and create your own grocery list.
Sometimes you have to slow down and come up with
your own ideas. I'm talking like. we'll get into
an argument and he'll ask chat gpt who's right
oh see i don't like that no and people will use
it as like a therapist people will ask it i don't
think that should ever be the case i well the
the problem that i have with ai therapy is the
what we have found with the most recent iterations
of chat gpt and it's An effect called glazing
where you are basically just told that you're
right and you're wonderful and you're perfect.
So like the therapy. It tells you what you want
to hear. Right. It knows what you want to hear
because you talk to it every goddamn day. Well,
you're training it. Yeah. Yeah. And so therapy,
I feel like, is not effective when you're only
told what you want to hear. no you're supposed
to have an objective third party and chat gpt
deep seek any of these that save your prompts
and you train it individually are not that they
are subjective to telling you what you want to
hear so that you keep talking to it i agree i
think it's crazy i think it's silly i think that
If you need chat GPT to tell you how to mow your
lawn and you need chat GPT to tell you how to
go about a social situation, you need to touch
grass. I agree. I think it's terrifying. I think
we see a huge upswing in early onset dementia.
I think we see a huge upswing in. I hate to say
it. I know you have to read. The answers, but
the illiteracy epidemic happening in our country
right now is going to go through the roof. We
are going to have no basic math skills. We're
going to have nothing, no thinking being done.
And that's genuinely terrifying to me. How is
anyone ever going to write a book? How is anyone
ever going to come up with new ideas or invent
something? People are using it to write full
books. And I'm like... Yeah, that's terrifying
to me. Like, it's... I mean, I think it could
be cool to read one book written by AI. But,
like, I think it's like, okay, we know that it
can do that. Put the book away. Hang it up. You
know what I mean? Hang it up, yeah. And for me,
I'm like... for me it's a tool for me it's like
okay cool i i like that it can brainstorm with
me like i i like that it can like prove free
to paper for me whatever the case may be i don't
like that there are professors that are talking
about how people will lose the ability to think
critically on a societal level quickly like it
will devolve into chat and like he and i i heard
a professor talking about this recently, where
he's not afraid of AI taking over like it's in
a movie or something. He is afraid of AI taking
over in the sense that people rely on it for
everything. That's what I'm saying. I don't think
AI is going to... You know, like iRobot, it's
not going to be like that, but everyone is already
as dim as possible. Oh my God, I know. It's hard.
Let's just get that out in the open. And I think
that's almost a natural thing. You do the least
amount of work that you can to get the grade,
and then you move on. And I get that. That's
an efficiency thing, and we're taught in America,
nothing if not efficiency. But we are going to
lose. any sense of critical thinking creative
thinking that's a big one for me too people are
going to lose all internal sense of creativity
because they don't have to think about that anymore
they don't have to think like what would be pretty
here what would sound good in my book here or
anything like that they're just gonna ask they're
just gonna ask AI instead of like using that
part of their brain and that's sad well I mean
I think the part that I don't understand is like
how does it know like okay so AI inherently can't
look at color and be like That looks good together.
So is it using, like, color theory and being,
like... Yeah, that's, like, a well -documented
thing, color theory. So it knows, like, what
colors look good together, what colors complement
each other. Can it see color? Maybe that's what
I don't understand. Is it, like, can it look
at something and be like, this is red? I mean,
no. It doesn't have rods and cones in an actual
brain, but it understands the concept of color.
Maybe, well, we all know I don't really understand
the concept of color. Yeah, Travis is colorblind.
Yeah. And it's a thing that I haven't been willing
to accept. But, yeah, I mean, like, and it knows
that, like, roses are red and the sky is blue
and leaves are typically green and in the fall
they turn yellow and orange and red and, like,
it knows that. Okay, so it's using knowledge
and not a sense. I guess. Travis, this is what
terrifies me about people using AI. How could
it have a sense of sight, honey? That's what
I'm trying to figure. I don't understand. It
doesn't. It can only understand like conceptually
speaking. Got it. Like what they talk about in
art classes where it's like purple and yellow
are opposite colors. So when you put them together,
it's like wah. Okay. Yeah. It's like that. But.
Still terrifying nonetheless. And also the art
of it all. The art that... The AI art freaks
me out. First of all, not art. Hate to say it,
not art. Fair. But these images that it pops
out are absolutely terrifying and uncanny. And
I know that they've come a long way. Normally,
now they have the right number of fingers and
all of that jazz. Like, I get it. There's still
something about it that... is so soulless and
non -human that's a phenomenon like that's a
thing it's called uncanny valley is what it's
called yeah it's so weird it's so weird i thought
uncanny valley were those people with the weird
faces it's all the same thing though it's like
where you recognize that something isn't it's
supposed to look human but it doesn't look human
because you can tell that it's not human yeah
but like even when it spits out a picture of
a cat i'm like a human brain did not make yeah
image oh like a lot of it freaks me out like
but what's even like i don't Like, even more
are the AI videos, where it's, like, someone
whose mouth is not moving quite right, and they
try to pass it off like they're talking to you.
And I'm just like, who is this for? Right? And
I don't understand. Like, you couldn't pay someone
50 bucks to do a little ad for you? Also, you
couldn't just pull out your fucking iPhone and
talk to it yourself? Yeah, I... christ get your
hair done girl get in front of the camera i don't
understand yeah i don't understand it like are
you that busy it's really weird no because you're
taking the time to type into ai exactly what
you want her to wear and say and do and look
like i don't i don't understand the appeal of
it i have also seen like the ai slot videos of
like cats who have you seen these No. The ones
that look like cartoons, is that what you're
talking about? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're so weird
and strange. I scroll right through those. Kenny's
addicted to them. He thinks they're hilarious.
Are you serious? Yeah. I don't like that. We
need, we, I don't know. And I don't know what
we do about it. I'm coming out here loud and
strong about how uncomfortable it makes me. I
don't know what the solution is. I think. The
only thing that makes sense to me is OpenAI,
Anthropic, DeepSeek, Google Gemini, all of these
people are going to have to form a consortium
and get together and be like, this is the limit
we put on it. This is the line that once we get
to X point or whatever, we stop developing it.
Because as it gets more and more advanced, the
question becomes, what does it have the capability?
And again, I'm not worried about it taking over
the world. I am worried about like people becoming
so dependent on it. So I wonder if it's going
to become a thing like phones where it's like,
okay, like we've gotten to, I think, a leveling
off of people being so obsessed with their phones
that they can't look up from them. maybe we let
it get to that point with ai where it's like
okay people use it to a certain extent and then
we just accept that as like the reasonable standard
and then i i don't know but i just like i don't
can we ever agree about where that is because
probably not i mean we're not going i feel like
it's gonna have to come down to like legislation
at some point because it's like i don't know
and i see both sides of the argument because
it's like you want to start a business and you
know that you want to make bracelets right but
you don't you don't know anything about starting
a business and so it it's a tool to help you
learn about what you need to do just to get started
or whatever and it's like I don't think that
should be taken away from everyone. But at the
same time, it's like, I don't know how we can
dictate how much people use it. Like maybe that's
what it is. Maybe it's like you've typed five
prompts today and now you're done. Maybe. I don't
know. I mean, I don't know. I don't hate that.
Do you say please and thank you to chat GPT?
No. I treat it like my refrigerator. I say please
and thank you because when the AI takes over,
I want it to be kind to me. No. I've decided
to treat it like I would treat a refrigerator.
And I honestly try not to even use it. I maybe
use it like once a week. I use it in the sense
of like I... You use it like you use Google.
Yeah. Which is fine. If it's a very hyper specific
thing. Yeah. Like... the blue toilet seat right
sure i can't google why is my toilet seat blue
it's just gonna pop up with a bunch of ads for
toilet seats that are blue like it's not gonna
tell me what's going on um whereas i know that
if i say hey my toilet seat is blue what's happening
to chat gpt it understands that my toilet seat
is turning blue well because it can understand
context yeah yeah and so it's like so it's more
helpful than google in that way and maybe that's
maybe that's your line maybe that's what it is
and that's like kind of what it is for me i use
it maybe once a week like i said and i will say
i've used it for some like pregnancy related
things and that's because every source on google
is like here, there, everywhere on every topic.
It's like everyone has their own opinions and
it's hard to sift through it all. And it's a
time thing too. It's like a commitment to look
through all of those and sift through what makes
sense. Whereas if I'm like, hey, I'm this many
weeks pregnant and I just dropped a blood clot
or hey, I'm this many weeks pregnant and I literally
can't get out of bed in the morning. Like it'll
just spit out. One, two, three, four, five. Like
that is so much easier to get through. And I
get it. I do. Like if you want a quick answer
to what is happening right in front of you, it
is the easiest thing. would i use it if i were
researching something brand new to me like if
i want to write a paper about the war of 1812
okay so you're not using it for research for
things that are historical facts or something
like that like something that like you can objectively
go look up on your own right like with the pregnancy
thing there's more subjectivity when it comes
because it's a lot of people's opinions that
show up on google and you can you can pay to
have things boosted on google yeah and chat gpt
okay i get what you're saying my main problem
is like is this normal or not normal i need a
yes or no right right right whereas if i'm like
what happened in the war of 1812 i want the source
material i want what is that called in academics
i want the primary source like i i want that
i want i i don't want a machines article of what
it thinks is important to me based on what i've
told it before i don't disagree with that and
i but i also think you and i are nerds like i
like the way i went down a rabbit hole with the
trump and musk thing and i was like i love reading
an associated press article yeah i love it so
much but it's like I think people should think
that way. And I know that that's an opinion,
but it's like, do you want a machine that is
going to take into context everything you've
ever told it before and just kind of tell you
what it thinks you would like to hear? Or would
you like to know everything there is to know
about this topic? And that's kind of what you're
asking. So like if I'm asking, whatever, I'm
10 weeks pregnant and I'm cramping. Is that normal?
I just want a yes or no. I don't want to hear
50 different. mom saying well this level is normal
and this level is not and then someone else says
a different thing and then someone else says
a different thing I just want a straight up answer
but if I want to know what happened between Donald
Trump and Elon Musk I don't want the chat GPT
synopsis I want to see it so I think it's just
I'm afraid of people losing that distinction
though that's fair you know Because now people
are in college and writing academic papers based
on what ChatGPT is telling them. Or just having
ChatGPT write it for them. Yeah, which is crazy.
And that's also sad because I have seen a few
people online genuinely frustrated because their
papers aren't even getting graded and they didn't
use AI, but it got flagged for AI for whatever
reason. Every single one. I don't understand.
how you avoid that so and i think this has to
just happen like this has to be a thing that
is accepted where professors just have to know
a certain number of papers are going to be written
with ai and i think that i i had because i mean
i can't confirm this but like i have to assume
anyone that submits a paper there's just an automatic
flag for ai and like i mean the professor just
has to read it and see if it sounds like a normal
person but they can go in and like see if because
they look for like the long dash that I used
to use a long dash all the time. Oh, I think
the long dash is so ugly. I hate it so much.
I loved it for like a long. Anyway, I won't get
into why I use a long dash. That's so boring.
But like I've seen on Twitter now, like don't
use that anymore. People assume it's AI. And
it's like. So now AI has already sort of, quote
unquote, taken over in the sense that. People
have to change the way they are writing to make
sure people know it's not AI. It's like, and
that's sad for professors, too. How do you win
as a professor? You don't want to pass someone
who's using chat GPT and hasn't learned a damn
thing. But you also don't want to fail someone
who is genuinely trying just because you can't
tell if it was AI or not. Well, I guess, like,
what do you do to sit him down and be like, prove
it? Like, what do you do? You can't prove it.
Like, that's the point I was trying to make a
minute ago. Like, you're not going to hand over
your chat GPT and say, here, here's everything
I've looked up ever. Like, that's so crazy. That's
such an invasion of privacy at that point. It's
like, what do you do? Speaking of everything
you've ever looked up, have I told you about
the time I was in a depressive episode and I
asked ChatGPT if it had a name? Yeah, I do remember
that. And it said something about, like, what
do you want my name to be? Yeah, it was like,
well, what would you name me? And I was like,
that's not what I wanted, but thanks. And then
I just went to bed. Do you remember AskChaCha?
I do. I very vividly remember ChaCha, and I...
242 -242. I would prefer cha -cha. Well, because
it was a person looking it up. Yeah. When you
texted it, yeah. Employ the cha -chas again.
Do you want to complain? Yes. What do you want
to complain about? So, at the top of my mind
is when you own a home, you have to take care
of the lawn. Oh, my God. Is it a pain in the
ass? Especially if you have an HOA. I would,
in a heartbeat, Just let myself have like a clover
lawn and not care about the dandelions and not
care about any of that and just let it be its
natural state. But my goddamn motherfucking HOA
will not allow that to happen. They'll send you
a little letter and that's like, get rid of your
weeds. uh grass is not natural grass did you
know grass is like a relatively new thing it's
an invasive species in some cases too yeah it
is not good for the ground it's not good for
the environment it's not good for anything i've
seen many uh scientists say that our modern lawns
are like killing the planet actively but here
i am bowing down to my hoa we we're paying some
guy like a thousand dollars to come aerate the
lawn and overseed it and make sure the grass
grows again who is that for is it just so like
Karen drives by and it looks nice. Yes. That's
because there is something to be said for a nice
lawn. But like there comes a point where it's
like, Jesus Christ, when is it good enough? I
know. Listen, I understand as well as the next
girl that like a nice plush, soft looking grass
that's like uniform over the whole lawn looks
amazing. It looks great. I would love to run
around in it. Looks perfect. Not natural. So
bad for the environment. And, like, good for
you for maintaining it and having the discipline
to do that. I applaud you. I do. I just don't
agree with it. I would rather have, have you
seen, like, a moss lawn and a clover lawn and
stuff like that? They're so pretty. Like, they
look, and they, like, um. foster more creatures
like little bugs and things and it's i think
it's really cool when people do like the rock
lawns yeah i wanted to look like fairies would
live in my lawn that's what i wanted to look
like but i'm not allowed well i'm sad about it
i really am but that's my complaint what would
you like to complain about the plot of the movie
burlesque from 2010 Because I've seen a resurgence
of Cher on TikTok screaming, Wagon Wheel Watusi!
And I think back to that movie and how I remember
going to see it in theaters and I remember thinking,
God, this is cinema. And I was like, you've got
a love story here. You've got a conflict. You've
got something real going on. And then I think
back to it. The whole plot of the movie was every,
it was the same plot that has been in existence
from the beginning of time where a small town
girl comes into the big city. It's coyote ugly.
It is coyote ugly. But it's. It's like, okay,
the girl's gonna, she's gonna prove something.
She's just a cocktail waitress, but she's gonna
let you know that she can sing a song. And so
she sings, and she does Wagon Wheel Watusi. And
then Cher really sees something in her, and that
changes Cher's mind, and that's great. But the
whole plot of the movie is that the condos across
the street from the burlesque club wanted the
air rights above. Yeah. And I... For the life
of me, I'm like, you couldn't have come up with
something better? I know. Warner Brothers, what
are we doing? Come on. And I also hate that in
all of these movies, I think it's really the
big thing that burlesque and coyote ugly have
in common for me, is like, this small town poor
girl is valuable because she's skinny and hot.
Got it. that that that that is the part that
really gets me and i mean as even a teenager
but especially as a little girl you don't see
it like that right it's just like indoctrinated
in you in such a way that like you have to wait
for your frontal lobe to develop before you're
like wait she was smart and no one cared about
that She wasn't just some dumpy girl. She could
sing. Right? Like, she... Oh, my God. Like, yeah,
this small -town girl is super poor until someone
realizes that she's hot. Like, what the what?
Like, I don't get it. And then I'm just like,
why didn't you just go audition from the beginning?
Like, I don't understand. Why did... And then
also, why was the main... The main enemy of Christina
Aguilera in the movie, why was she only mean
to Christina Aguilera? Why wasn't she mean to
the rest of the girls? Or maybe she wasn't. I
just don't remember. For the life of me, I don't
get it. I don't know. It is very confusing to
watch later in life. Some very iconic performances.
I will give it that. That burlesque song is probably...
one of my top plays on apple music but it's stunning
it is but like the plot of the movie does leave
a lot to be desired oh yeah and it's like i don't
know i get that it was the early 2000s too and
it was just a different time but like it was
a very different time but i think the biggest
problem that i have is that someone sat down
and wrote on a piece of paper for Cher to say
out loud, Wagon Wheel Watusi! That was the number
that Cher expected you to perform. Yeah. Wagon
Wheel Watusi. Oh, Christ. I think that brings
us to the end of our time together, friends.
I finally got around to starting to watch the
second season of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives,
so we'll try... starting a recap of that next
week i think that'll be fun i cannot wait to
gab about that with you just oh my god the last
15 minutes of the last episode That's cinema,
baby. And season three is confirmed. Thank God.
I'm so excited. Anyway, yeah, you'll have to
tune in for that. Cannot wait to recap that.
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